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Speaker 2: Well, this is great news. This is great news.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the All Sports Discussion ACC podcast. This is
the longest running independ at ACC podcast in the country,
and we have a return guest on this show. Sam
Jesse is here from Sons of Saturday, who you can
follow on Twitter at at Sam of Saturday. He's a
certified analytics heart, he's co host of the Too Deep
Hogies podcast, and he's the website content manager for Sons
of Saturday. And I can you know what, It's probably
gonna be easy, be easier for me to have Sam
make sure that he tells all make sure that he
plugs all of his Twitter accounts, because there's a lot
of them here, right. But he's a Virginia Tech alumnus.
He's graduated a couple times from Virginia Tech. We're really
happy to have him here coming on the All Sports
Discussion ACC podcast this weekend. Sam, thank you so much
for spending your Sunday evening with us. We really appreciate
you coming on the show. Tell us about yourself, friend
and anything that you want to plug. Twitter accounts, features
that you're doing on your site, podcasts, people that are
working with you, whatever you want to plug.
Speaker 2: The floor is yours. Thanks, thank you for joining us.
Speaker 4: Well, hey, fellas, how are we doing this evening?
Speaker 5: Yeah? So I think you did a pretty good job there.
Speaker 4: I cover Virginia Tech mostly, but we have started to
breach out a little bit into the national and acc
college football landscape, as well as maybe a little college
basketball here this winter.
Speaker 5: So.
Speaker 4: I work with the Suns of Saturday Half for about
five years now, since about the COVID times. I run
the Two Deep podcasts with my co host Pete. We
also have a show on Mondays, a live show called
College Football Mondays that you can catch on YouTube. You
can also like click the link to it on the
Twitter page and as well as it'll be up on
Spotify or anything else like that. So for the non hope,
that's where you can find or talk about everything else
around the country. But yep, Virginia Tech graduate Hokey since
the day.
Speaker 5: I was born.
Speaker 4: Uh and it fell as it just hasn't been a
great start to the season.
Speaker 5: To put it bluntly, Okay, you know that's true.
Speaker 2: That's true. That's true.
Speaker 3: There was a win this weekend this past weekend, so well, yes,
there was there was a win this way last weekend.
Speaker 2: So maybe there's maybe there's a lot, maybe there's a
little hope.
Speaker 3: So well, we'll get it. We'll get into it. We'll
get into that more here a little bit here. So
which ACC football team was the most disappointing team in
Week four? And which ACC team was the most impressive team?
I want to get again, I give you both of
those questions here, Sam, the floor is yours.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't think you could talk about disappointment without
talking about the Clemson Tigers this season. I was somebody
personally it was really high on this team. The reports
out of spring practice were the reports out of fall
practice were great, so many returning stars, and yet they
just look anemic on offense, they look slow on defense,
they get waxed by Syracuse at home. They do not
look impressive at all. And I gotta tell you, it
does feel a little bit like the mystique of Clemson
football is starting to wear off. Other teams aren't very
afraid of them anymore. They don't look athletically that superior
to other teams. And for me, as someone who I
was really high on Clemson, I thought they would sweep
through the ACC this year. Guys, I think there may
be a seven or eight win team right now. I mean,
they don't look very good at all. So for me,
Clemson is by far the most disappointing. And as for
the team that was maybe the most impressive, of course,
Syracuse on the opposite side of that game looked great.
Florida State hasn't really played anybody, Georgia Tech played Temple.
There wasn't a lot of these big games. But how
about the bounce back win for Duke against n C State,
a local rival. Is a tough loss that that Duke
had at Tulane the week before they come back home
game against one of your rivals, and they were clearly
the better team in that game.
Speaker 5: So really impressed with the bounce back from Duke.
Speaker 2: Very good answers, Very good answers.
Speaker 3: I will add here, I want to go on the
flip side. I think n C State is one in
five if I'm not mistaken, in their last six games with.
Speaker 2: With with Duke. Is that correct, gentlemen, I think it's
I think it's not good. I think it's probable. I
think it's one in five in their lives three I.
Speaker 6: Think I've seen.
Speaker 1: I know it's only one win and it's either one
in four or one in five, but it's it's an
unacceptable record if you're in NC State.
Speaker 3: I mean it's I mean, I mean NC State had
had the world ahead of it, right, But if they
win their next several games, they're you know, they're they're
coming into a game with Notre game Notre Dame, where
they're where there's six and zero, and you keep thinking of, oh,
this is the wherever they're gonna turn the corner, this
is where they're probably gonna be good, this is where
they're not going to lose the game that you think
Dave V's you know, you know Dave d is gonna
win the game. I think that I should say that
you think he's gonna that that? Yeah, that you know,
he's lost in the past and he and he keeps
having these sorts of incidents. I'm glad you brought that
game up. And I'm glad you brought that game up. Sam, Jeff,
is there anything that you want to hit here? I
think you may have a few words. Is a Clemson alom.
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I think Sam definitely nailed you know, the
Clemson game. And it goes out without saying I mean,
just a couple of thoughts on that, and I want
to get into a couple of some other ACC teams,
and we could probably talk for a half hour of
some of the disappointing performance, but just hit on on
them quick. But you know, when when you watch Clemson,
you know, when they played l s U. It looked
like they matched athletes. I mean L s U one,
they were the better team that night, and they definitely
outplayed Clemson, but the difference athletically between the Toombs teams
did not look that much, you know, and then they
played reasonable against Georgia Tech.
Speaker 6: And and.
Speaker 1: You know, end up losing that game on a late
field goal. But everything you said, Sam was correct. They
looked they looked slow. They were out of sync on Saturday.
At one point during the game. You know, I was
watching them at the line of scrimmage and I can't
remember if it was the offense or the defense, and
it reminded me of one of those NFL Pro Bowl
games where the linemen just kind of pushed into each
other a little bit, and and they just kind of
stand up and push a little bit. That's what That's
what Clemson looked like at the line of scrimmage to me.
And I can't remember if I think it was the
defensive line. The hell kid, the transfer of Purdue is
one of is one of the few players that looks
like he's really given effort out there. And I mean
they just you know, you know, they there's talent on
that team, but many their headspace is all wrong right now.
You know, you look at some of the other disappointing teams,
and there were a lot of them in the A
C C S MU blowing another fourth quarter lead the TCU.
That defense is horrendous. You know, NC State again, like
you kind of mentioned Golden Opportunity face plants at Duke
and then another of the disappointing games that I would, Okay,
you know, Clemson's clear leader on this one, but that
that stunned me is Cal. I mean, they had built
up some momentum. They were coming off of a home
win against Minnesota. The freshman phenom left hander you know,
to me, he's Jks because I can't I don't even
try to pronounce that name.
Speaker 6: But whoa.
Speaker 1: They looked wretched against San Diego State. I thought it
was DJ Lagway quarterback in them against San Diego State
thirty four to zero, and I think it could have
been sixty to zero.
Speaker 6: That one. That one blew me away too. That one
really blew me away. And I was shocked.
Speaker 1: Where you know, people were talking about Cal, you know,
having a kind of schedule that that could you know,
that they could run and pick up a ton of
wins and maybe even have a chance at the ACC
Championship game. That team that played, that team that played
Saturday night, I mean, that looked like a team that
woul wouldn't win another game the rest of the year.
Speaker 6: And I don't think you know that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was just a confluence of
events where you know, the freshmen just.
Speaker 6: Had an awful, awful night.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not going to be as bad as
they were that night, but it definitely tempers expectations now
at cal for the for the season. They looked, they
looked horrible. I forgot about North Carolina. They're just a
train wreck against any team with a pulse. Thirty four
to nine to Central Florida.
Speaker 3: Can I just add here to that this NFL coach
lost to Scott Frost. I know I'm joking a little
bit here, right because I've just kidding, just kidding, Jeff,
You're upred.
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 1: Okay, Sam? What football game are you looking forward to?
What ACC football game are you looking forward to the
most in Week five?
Speaker 4: Well, I don't want this to be too much of
a homer answer, but Virginia Tech at NC State first
off night games in Raleigh are awesome. Can't beat the
great college football atmosphere. That's going to be a challenge
for the Hokies. But going all the way back to
the spring, I've said, you know, this game feels like
a loser leaves town game for the head coaches. If
Brent Pry loses this game, I think it's pretty clear
that he's not the guy and he can't beat the
other mid tier to high tier ACC programs.
Speaker 5: And if Dave Doran loses this.
Speaker 4: Game, and that's a home game that you really need
to win, I don't think that's a good enough team
to win the rest of their games. Like it felt
like a really pivotal early season game for both of
these teams. Obviously, Virginia Tech had some other plans with
the head coaching, so Brent Pry already gone, and now
you have this kind of weird dynamic where NC State dropped.
Speaker 5: That game to Duke.
Speaker 4: And I know they have a couple wins under their belt,
but if you look at their schedule after Virginia Tech,
they have the game against Campbell, then they have at
Notre Dame, they have at Pittsburgh, they have Miami. I mean,
if NC State loses this game to Virginia Tech somehow someway,
then they are staring seven and five, eight and four
right in the face yet again at best case scenario
almost And for me, it's like, there is so much
pressure on Dave Dorn and NC State in this game,
and there is absolutely zero pressure on Virginia Tech. It's
just a weird dynamic. I did not think we would
get this coming into the season. But I mean, this
is a really really big game for NC State, and
I don't know if their players are maybe as privy
to that as they should be.
Speaker 1: All Right, great, great choice there, Sam, I'll tell you one.
You know, it's a pretty light ACC schedule this week,
but I'm I'm really curious to see Louisville at Pittsburgh.
You know, Louisville. Louisville has really flown under the radar.
You had a close game with James Madison a little bit,
but you know they're three to zero. And you know,
if there's a if there's a team that that has
an opportunity to to join you know, Miami and Florida
State and Georgia Tech as those top three teams in
the ACC, Louisville would be, you know, the one of
probably the most likely UH candidate Pittsburgh coming off that
loss to a really bad West Virginia team. If Louisville
is a team that's gonna, you know, really be able
to contend in the A C C. I want to
see them go into Pittsburgh and take care of business.
I'm really intrigued by that game. Uh all right, Sam,
as we look ahead to uh Week five in the
A c C. You know which ACC team could be
on upset alert in week five if you're looking ahead
to a game, Oh sorry.
Speaker 5: No, I think you just talked about them.
Speaker 4: I mean Louisville's traveling to Pittsburgh for a noon kickoff
against a pit team that just.
Speaker 5: Lost to their biggest rival. Like this.
Speaker 4: If you watch ACC football, you know how this one ends.
Like it's this is picture perfect for a yucky, gross
ACC upset. And look, I don't think Pittsburgh is a
great team. I don't think they're a very good team,
but I think they're good enough. And Louisville, on the
other hand, they have so many playmakers, but I don't
think they've quite put it all together yet. I mean
that game against JAMU, I think JM you kind of
outplayed them. It was a big special teams play and
a scoop and score that were the difference in that
game for the Cardinals. So I have Louisville on big
time upset alert in this game.
Speaker 1: All right, You know, keep an eye on that Friday
night game in the ACC Florida State and Virginia. Now
I'm definitely not brave enough to say, you know, great
Virginia is gonna pull this upset, but I mean this
is definitely a trap game for the knowles, one of
the just as the question describes, if they're sleepwalking, you know,
and they're looking ahead to Miami the week after, which
could could be the biggest Miami Florida State game in
a couple of decades. I mean, we're talking getting back
to one of those nineteen nineties matchups if they get
their undefeated. As Matthew said, I mean, this is probably
going to be you know, game Day, that sort of deal.
You know, national television Chandler Morrison, Virginia. They they've really
been under the radar, but that's an improved team. They've
got some offense there at Virginia this year. And if
Florida State is really asleep at the wheel, that one
could be a little closer than a lot of people expect.
All right, Sam, let's step out of the acc for
a bit here. Which national FBS game are you looking
forward to to most in Week five? And we're wide
open with this question. You know, this can be power
for g five you can even have an FCS matchup
and then give us your winner of that game.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's hard to look past Oregon at
Penn State.
Speaker 5: It'll be wide out in Happy Valley.
Speaker 4: Oregon is a team that I think a lot of
people kind of slept on because they had so much
roster turnover this year. But they look just as good
as they did last year. I really like Dante Moore
their quarterback. They have just as many offensive weapons, their
defense might be better than last year. And Penn State,
of course, I don't know if there's a more hostile
place to play in the country than Penn State at night.
So that's going to be an amazing game. I'm going
to lean Penn State because of Drew Aller at quarterback
and he's kind of been in those situations before and
Dante Moore hasn't. But I think that's going to be
a fantastic game. And you talked about Florida State UVA
on Friday night, there's another game happening on Friday night
out west in the Desert. TCU travels to Arizona State.
That's a massive game in the Big Twelve. The winner
of that game kind of joins Texas Tech in Iowa
State up in the top of that conference and kind
of controls their own destiny throughout the rest of the season.
Speaker 5: So in a really crowded Big twelve, you have.
Speaker 4: A night game in the desert that's going to be
a really fun game that's a big one as well,
and a third one for you know, third times of
the charm Alabama Georgia kind of goes without saying.
Speaker 1: I tell you what, Sam, Penn State better win that
game because they've basically been able to prepare for it
for an entire month. I look at Penn State's opening
schedule Nevada, FIU, and Villanova.
Speaker 6: I think they've.
Speaker 1: They've had three live scrimmages and four weeks, four or
five weeks to prepare for Oregon. So if they're ever
going to knock off the Ducks, this would be it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I could make an argument that of the
schedules that Oregon and Penn State have played so far,
the toughest matchup has probably been Oregon hosting Montana State
the FCS team.
Speaker 5: I mean, you really could make that argument.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or Oregons that you almost could argue that they've had,
you know, four live games to prepare theirs was maybe
slightly tougher, but this look at this schedule, this wouldn't
exactly murderers rode for Oregon either Montana State, Oklahoma State
Northwestern and Oregon State. So but basically both have had
the entire months of September to prepare for the other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's absolutely crazy how that scheduling worked out this year.
Speaker 1: All right, Sam, we have too what we have two
what we call open mic segments. I'm going to start
you off with the first one. This is your time
and only you to talk on whatever subject that you
want to hit on for our this first open mic segment.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's funny because I actually was thinking
back to when I was on y'all show last year,
and I'm pretty sure I talked about how Virginia Tech
was going to be pretty soon in the midst of
an administrative change in their athletic program, and lo and behold,
almost exactly a calendar year later, you have a mid
season head coach firing and what looks like an ad
on the way out the door, and what also looks
like an increase in budget that would put Virginia Tech
up there with Florida State with Clemson, with Miami, with
Southern Methodist in terms of the highest athletic budgets in
the ACC. And it's kind of funny how slow some
of these things moves in academia. And you know, we
tend not to think about it, but college football programs
are under universities and things tend to move slow in
those areas. And I think Virginia Tech is at a
really interesting position here as a program because they have
the buy in from the fans obviously, and you know,
they have the buy in now from the university or
so it seems. It really does seem like they just
need the right guy. And there's a ton of really
interesting coaching candidates that could come in. Not only your
big name guys like Dan Mullen, jimbo Fisher, you know,
all all those guys. Heck John Grudin if you want
to get crazy with it. But there's a ton of
really interesting G five guys like Ryan Silverfield from Memphis,
Alex Golis from South Florida. Uh, you know, even Bob
Chesney at James Madison. A lot of these guys that
are really really interesting, and there's going to be a
ton of big jobs though, But me, Florida could be open,
Wisconsin obviously, Virginia Tech and UCLA are already open.
Speaker 5: Iowa, who knows.
Speaker 4: If Kirk Ference stays another year, Oklahoma State will probably
be open. It's going to be one of the more
competitive and interesting head coaching markets this season, and Virginia
Tech is trying to position themselves in the best way possible.
But guys, I think this is going to be an
incredibly interesting head coaching search for the Hokies, and I
think you could you might see a few more in
the ACC. We'll see what happens in how this season
shakes out. But I just think this is a really
interesting time if you're a fan of the Hokies and
if you're a fan of the ACC, because this is
one of the biggest football programs that is going through
a massive, massive change. I think it's just a phenomenal
time to be really in the weeds of college football
this year.
Speaker 3: Well said, Well said open microphone number two.
Speaker 2: What do you got for a sam? This is number two.
Speaker 4: Number two, and I gotta this is more even more
macro than that one. I don't know if there's been
a season where there's no favorite for the national title
like there is this year. I mean, Oregon and Penn
stage are going to play each other and what I
think could be the biggest game of the year, and
the loser of that game still could probably win the
national title. The winner of that game could still probably
win the national title.
Speaker 5: You know, I don't think.
Speaker 4: There's a lot separating team number one in team number ten,
no matter how you rank those teams. I think that's
a phenomenal place for the sports to be at. And
I also think you have a handful of G five
teams that could make their way into the playoff. Last year,
we kind of knew it was Boise.
Speaker 5: State the whole way.
Speaker 4: This year, there's a handful of teams that could very
well have a case to make it at the end
of the year. I just think on the field, all
the chatter there is about legal cases, court cases, Congress
talk and new rule change, new playoff format, when you
look at the game on the field, I don't know
if college football's ever been in a better spot. So
for me, like as a family, I'm saying like, I
think it's a great time to just sit on your
couch and watch college football because there are so many
good teams. The season's wide open, absolutely wide open, and
I can't wait to see it unfold. This weekend will
go a long way into determining that, but it won't
do the whole thing because we have the playoff now
and it's going to feel a little bit more like
college basketball. There's going to be more meaningful regular season games.
So I think it's just a great, great season for
college football so far.
Speaker 2: Well said, Well said, Jeff, You're up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked a little about it. You know, when
are impressive and then disappointing teams. But man, I want
I want to get into Miami a little bit more. Man,
this this, this Miami team is absolutely built different than
than past uh you know, Mario Cristobaul teams. Even last
year's team with Cam cam Warden started.
Speaker 6: The year nine and nine.
Speaker 1: And ohoh, Florida is for as bad as they are,
and you know, Lagway has been been pretty much a
train record at quarterback overall. But I mean they've got
athletes at the line of scrimmage. I mean, they've they've
got real athletes, even if they end up, you know,
going two and ten or three and nine. And you know,
Miami was in complete control of that game, minus a
couple of shaky moments late in the third quarter, early
in the fourth quarter, but they controlled the action. We've
already seen them beat Notre Dame and then, you know,
just destroy a good South Florida team, and I think
that's a team that's capable of winning, you know, the
National Championship. I mean, they have a pro prospect at quarterback.
They got wide receivers everywhere, The offensive line is just
mowing down people. They got a strong running game with defensive.
Speaker 3: Ends Brown Yeah, I told you about him, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: The defensive ends might be the best pair of defensive
ends in college football. And you know, when you see
them play, it kind of reminds you of those those
you know, nineteen nineties Miami team's early two thousands teams.
I mean, they've got a little bit of that going
on right now. I mean, okay, it's only four weeks
into the season, and you know Miami's has gotten fast
starts before, but I feel like this this one's built
to last. They're a real threat to win it all.
And I don't know what's going on with the coaches
pole having them number six. I don't know how you
can have them outside the top three right now. And
as far as like, you know what team has been
the most impressive the month of September and including the
schedule with wins, I mean, I think it has.
Speaker 6: To be Miami.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't think any team has just played as well
over the course of the month, you know, including the
opponents that they've played, than Miami. If you want to
put Ohio State number one at the moment, I mean,
I'm okay with that, but I don't know how you
can have them outside the top three.
Speaker 3: I think it's a fair statement, Jeff. I'll just add
this though it's way or it's We're only four games
into the season. We haven't really seen any of Mario's
clock management yet. I have still had questions about that.
I have questions about whether he can sometimes coach a QB.
He doesn't necessarily have the same type of QB he
had last year in terms of the running style.
Speaker 2: He does have. And I mentioned Shamar Brown.
Speaker 3: I mentioned Shamar Brown, and I'm gonna ask this is
my open mic to Sam Sam. Is Schamar Brown going
to be on an All acc team by the end
of the year. You know why I'm asking that ad
su transfer.
Speaker 5: He is, he's he's. I mean, he very well might be.
Speaker 4: And look, one thing is, if they keep winning games
and they need to run out the clock in the
second half, he could have some he could have some
stat padding games here pretty soon. Because they were in
a game where they were able to pull away from Florida. Uh,
but that was, you know, a kind of a tight
game for most of the time. And then I just think, Man,
this Miami team to me right now, if I'm just
doing a power ranking just off of vibes and off
of look, they're the number one team in the country
right now, and I don't think it's particularly close.
Speaker 2: And I think it's fair.
Speaker 3: I still want to see Mario in in a pressure
pack situation, in a pressure pack situation. And I heard
somebody say today, and I know I sound like like
I'm being uper critical. How many real tough games does
Miami have the rest of the year where they're going
to get tested hard?
Speaker 2: I you know, I'm I.
Speaker 3: Probably sound I agree with everything you guys said, But
Mario has a history of not managing the clock, and
you know, maybe maybe his athletes are so good that
they he doesn't doesn't necessarily have to have to, you know.
Speaker 2: Put those skills into play. But count me in is
a little, just a little skeptical.
Speaker 5: Yet.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, guys, I hate saying that.
Speaker 3: I don't want to sound really we are an acc
podcasts and I don't want to sound like I'm raining
on the party here, raining on the parade. As they say,
I want to see, I want to see a little more.
Speaker 2: Is that fair? Is that fair? Guys?
Speaker 6: Man, Matthew, your tough grader.
Speaker 5: I do think it's fair. Like you talk about the
clock issues.
Speaker 4: For me, it's like I don't know if I would
be ready to say, yeah, Miami can win a national title.
Their last two games of the season are at Virginia
Tech and at Pittsburgh. It is like it's like back
to back, perfect spots for.
Speaker 5: Miami to lose.
Speaker 4: Usually they only get one of those cold weather games
at the end of the year. This year they get
two back to back, and it's gonna with the way
pitt in Virginia Tech seasons are laying out, that's gonna
be the super Bowl for both of those teams. I'm like,
there is a world where Miami is the number one
team in the country in ten and oh and loses both.
Speaker 5: Of those games.
Speaker 4: Like that is totally within the realm of possibility here.
Speaker 6: I just.
Speaker 3: I want to see bit of pressure pack situation. So
he doesn't have the quarterback that he had last year.
That's a that's a music musician, So you're right up
a tough grader, Jeff, But I want to see if
he's learned from his mistakes here.
Speaker 2: So, uh, before we go, where can we find you? Sam? What?
Speaker 3: What sorts of work? Can we find you on Twitter?
Where can you find your site on Twitter? Where can
we Is there anything else that you want to plug
in terms of what you're blogging, you're podcasting about right now,
anything you want to plug in, people that you're working
with at the site. I know you mentioned your podcast,
your podcast podcast partner, Pete, but anybody else that you
want to plug over with this?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just give a big shout out to the
whole Suns of Saturday team. They've handled a coaching firing
and search as well as any team could hope for.
So I'm super proud of those guys. You can check
out the work Sons of Saturday dot com. If you
just type in Sons of Saturday it'll be the first
thing to pop up. One of our writers, Paul, is
going to have a really cool deep dive into the
Virginia Tech NC State series history. Out of the last
thirteen matchups for those teams, nine of them have been
one score games, so it's been a really tightly competitive
series between two schools that are pretty darn close to
each other. So that will be interesting for both hockey
fans and Wolfpack fans. And then on Twitter you can
find me at Sam of Saturday and it is just
going to be a stream of consciousness, a few betting picks,
a few analytics stuff here and there, but come over
talk to me on Twitter. I'm on there chronically, probably
for the worst, but I would love to come and
chat ball with you.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for spending your Sunday evening with
us on the All Fours Discussion ACC podcast.
Speaker 2: Sam.
Speaker 3: We'd love to have you come back on the show
again sometime. Thanks so much for thanks so much for
your
Speaker 4: Time anytime, fellas Sam Ever,