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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conference,

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the podcast for All Sportsdiscussion dot com. This is Jeff

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and you can follow me on Twitter x at Talking

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at A L L S P O r T S

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d A c C. Right, I'm going to turn it

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over to you now, Matthew. As we got our guests Sam,

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he's in here.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is great news. This is great news.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the All Sports Discussion ACC podcast. This is

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the longest running independ at ACC podcast in the country,

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and we have a return guest on this show. Sam

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Jesse is here from Sons of Saturday, who you can

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follow on Twitter at at Sam of Saturday. He's a

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certified analytics heart, he's co host of the Too Deep

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Hogies podcast, and he's the website content manager for Sons

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of Saturday. And I can you know what, It's probably

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gonna be easy, be easier for me to have Sam

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make sure that he tells all make sure that he

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plugs all of his Twitter accounts, because there's a lot

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of them here, right. But he's a Virginia Tech alumnus.

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He's graduated a couple times from Virginia Tech. We're really

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happy to have him here coming on the All Sports

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Discussion ACC podcast this weekend. Sam, thank you so much

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for spending your Sunday evening with us. We really appreciate

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you coming on the show. Tell us about yourself, friend

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and anything that you want to plug. Twitter accounts, features

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that you're doing on your site, podcasts, people that are

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working with you, whatever you want to plug.

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Speaker 2: The floor is yours. Thanks, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Well, hey, fellas, how are we doing this evening?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? So I think you did a pretty good job there.

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Speaker 4: I cover Virginia Tech mostly, but we have started to

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breach out a little bit into the national and acc

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college football landscape, as well as maybe a little college

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basketball here this winter.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 4: I work with the Suns of Saturday Half for about

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five years now, since about the COVID times. I run

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the Two Deep podcasts with my co host Pete. We

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also have a show on Mondays, a live show called

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College Football Mondays that you can catch on YouTube. You

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can also like click the link to it on the

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Twitter page and as well as it'll be up on

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Spotify or anything else like that. So for the non hope,

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that's where you can find or talk about everything else

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around the country. But yep, Virginia Tech graduate Hokey since

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the day.

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Speaker 5: I was born.

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Speaker 4: Uh and it fell as it just hasn't been a

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great start to the season.

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Speaker 5: To put it bluntly, Okay, you know that's true.

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Speaker 2: That's true. That's true.

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Speaker 3: There was a win this weekend this past weekend, so well, yes,

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there was there was a win this way last weekend.

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Speaker 2: So maybe there's maybe there's a lot, maybe there's a

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little hope.

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Speaker 3: So well, we'll get it. We'll get into it. We'll

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get into that more here a little bit here. So

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which ACC football team was the most disappointing team in

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Week four? And which ACC team was the most impressive team?

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I want to get again, I give you both of

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those questions here, Sam, the floor is yours.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't think you could talk about disappointment without

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talking about the Clemson Tigers this season. I was somebody

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personally it was really high on this team. The reports

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out of spring practice were the reports out of fall

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practice were great, so many returning stars, and yet they

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just look anemic on offense, they look slow on defense,

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they get waxed by Syracuse at home. They do not

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look impressive at all. And I gotta tell you, it

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does feel a little bit like the mystique of Clemson

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football is starting to wear off. Other teams aren't very

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afraid of them anymore. They don't look athletically that superior

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to other teams. And for me, as someone who I

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was really high on Clemson, I thought they would sweep

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through the ACC this year. Guys, I think there may

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be a seven or eight win team right now. I mean,

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they don't look very good at all. So for me,

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Clemson is by far the most disappointing. And as for

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the team that was maybe the most impressive, of course,

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Florida State hasn't really played anybody, Georgia Tech played Temple.

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about the bounce back win for Duke against n C State,

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a local rival. Is a tough loss that that Duke

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game against one of your rivals, and they were clearly

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the better team in that game.

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Speaker 5: So really impressed with the bounce back from Duke.

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Speaker 2: Very good answers, Very good answers.

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flip side. I think n C State is one in

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five if I'm not mistaken, in their last six games with.

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Speaker 2: With with Duke. Is that correct, gentlemen, I think it's

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I think it's not good. I think it's probable. I

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think it's one in five in their lives three I.

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Speaker 6: Think I've seen.

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Speaker 1: I know it's only one win and it's either one

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in four or one in five, but it's it's an

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unacceptable record if you're in NC State.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's I mean, I mean NC State had

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had the world ahead of it, right, But if they

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win their next several games, they're you know, they're they're

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coming into a game with Notre game Notre Dame, where

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they're where there's six and zero, and you keep thinking of, oh,

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this is the wherever they're gonna turn the corner, this

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is where they're probably gonna be good, this is where

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they're not going to lose the game that you think

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win the game. I think that I should say that

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you think he's gonna that that? Yeah, that you know,

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he's lost in the past and he and he keeps

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having these sorts of incidents. I'm glad you brought that

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game up. And I'm glad you brought that game up. Sam, Jeff,

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is there anything that you want to hit here? I

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think you may have a few words. Is a Clemson alom.

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean I think Sam definitely nailed you know, the

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Clemson game. And it goes out without saying I mean,

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just a couple of thoughts on that, and I want

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to get into a couple of some other ACC teams,

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and we could probably talk for a half hour of

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some of the disappointing performance, but just hit on on

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them quick. But you know, when when you watch Clemson,

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you know, when they played l s U. It looked

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like they matched athletes. I mean L s U one,

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they were the better team that night, and they definitely

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outplayed Clemson, but the difference athletically between the Toombs teams

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did not look that much, you know, and then they

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played reasonable against Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 6: And and.

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Speaker 1: You know, end up losing that game on a late

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field goal. But everything you said, Sam was correct. They

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looked they looked slow. They were out of sync on Saturday.

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watching them at the line of scrimmage and I can't

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remember if it was the offense or the defense, and

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it reminded me of one of those NFL Pro Bowl

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games where the linemen just kind of pushed into each

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other a little bit, and and they just kind of

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stand up and push a little bit. That's what That's

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what Clemson looked like at the line of scrimmage to me.

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defensive line. The hell kid, the transfer of Purdue is

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one of is one of the few players that looks

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like he's really given effort out there. And I mean

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they just you know, you know, they there's talent on

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that team, but many their headspace is all wrong right now.

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C C S MU blowing another fourth quarter lead the TCU.

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you kind of mentioned Golden Opportunity face plants at Duke

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and then another of the disappointing games that I would, Okay,

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you know, Clemson's clear leader on this one, but that

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that stunned me is Cal. I mean, they had built

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up some momentum. They were coming off of a home

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win against Minnesota. The freshman phenom left hander you know,

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to me, he's Jks because I can't I don't even

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try to pronounce that name.

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Speaker 6: But whoa.

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Speaker 1: They looked wretched against San Diego State. I thought it

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was DJ Lagway quarterback in them against San Diego State

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thirty four to zero, and I think it could have

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been sixty to zero.

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Speaker 6: That one. That one blew me away too. That one

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really blew me away. And I was shocked.

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Speaker 1: Where you know, people were talking about Cal, you know,

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having a kind of schedule that that could you know,

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that they could run and pick up a ton of

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wins and maybe even have a chance at the ACC

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Championship game. That team that played, that team that played

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Saturday night, I mean, that looked like a team that

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woul wouldn't win another game the rest of the year.

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Speaker 6: And I don't think you know that's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was just a confluence of

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events where you know, the freshmen just.

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Speaker 6: Had an awful, awful night.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not going to be as bad as

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they were that night, but it definitely tempers expectations now

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at cal for the for the season. They looked, they

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looked horrible. I forgot about North Carolina. They're just a

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train wreck against any team with a pulse. Thirty four

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to nine to Central Florida.

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Speaker 3: Can I just add here to that this NFL coach

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lost to Scott Frost. I know I'm joking a little

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bit here, right because I've just kidding, just kidding, Jeff,

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You're upred.

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 1: Okay, Sam? What football game are you looking forward to?

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What ACC football game are you looking forward to the

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most in Week five?

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't want this to be too much of

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a homer answer, but Virginia Tech at NC State first

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off night games in Raleigh are awesome. Can't beat the

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great college football atmosphere. That's going to be a challenge

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for the Hokies. But going all the way back to

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the spring, I've said, you know, this game feels like

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a loser leaves town game for the head coaches. If

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Brent Pry loses this game, I think it's pretty clear

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that he's not the guy and he can't beat the

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other mid tier to high tier ACC programs.

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Speaker 5: And if Dave Doran loses this.

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Speaker 4: Game, and that's a home game that you really need

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to win, I don't think that's a good enough team

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to win the rest of their games. Like it felt

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like a really pivotal early season game for both of

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these teams. Obviously, Virginia Tech had some other plans with

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the head coaching, so Brent Pry already gone, and now

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you have this kind of weird dynamic where NC State dropped.

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Speaker 5: That game to Duke.

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Speaker 4: And I know they have a couple wins under their belt,

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but if you look at their schedule after Virginia Tech,

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they have the game against Campbell, then they have at

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Notre Dame, they have at Pittsburgh, they have Miami. I mean,

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if NC State loses this game to Virginia Tech somehow someway,

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then they are staring seven and five, eight and four

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right in the face yet again at best case scenario

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almost And for me, it's like, there is so much

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pressure on Dave Dorn and NC State in this game,

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and there is absolutely zero pressure on Virginia Tech. It's

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just a weird dynamic. I did not think we would

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get this coming into the season. But I mean, this

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is a really really big game for NC State, and

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I don't know if their players are maybe as privy

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to that as they should be.

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Speaker 1: All Right, great, great choice there, Sam, I'll tell you one.

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You know, it's a pretty light ACC schedule this week,

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but I'm I'm really curious to see Louisville at Pittsburgh.

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You know, Louisville. Louisville has really flown under the radar.

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You had a close game with James Madison a little bit,

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but you know they're three to zero. And you know,

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if there's a if there's a team that that has

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an opportunity to to join you know, Miami and Florida

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State and Georgia Tech as those top three teams in

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the ACC, Louisville would be, you know, the one of

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probably the most likely UH candidate Pittsburgh coming off that

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loss to a really bad West Virginia team. If Louisville

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is a team that's gonna, you know, really be able

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to contend in the A C C. I want to

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see them go into Pittsburgh and take care of business.

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I'm really intrigued by that game. Uh all right, Sam,

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A c C. You know which ACC team could be

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on upset alert in week five if you're looking ahead

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to a game, Oh sorry.

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Speaker 5: No, I think you just talked about them.

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Speaker 4: I mean Louisville's traveling to Pittsburgh for a noon kickoff

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against a pit team that just.

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Speaker 5: Lost to their biggest rival. Like this.

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Speaker 4: If you watch ACC football, you know how this one ends.

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Like it's this is picture perfect for a yucky, gross

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ACC upset. And look, I don't think Pittsburgh is a

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great team. I don't think they're a very good team,

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but I think they're good enough. And Louisville, on the

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other hand, they have so many playmakers, but I don't

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think they've quite put it all together yet. I mean

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that game against JAMU, I think JM you kind of

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outplayed them. It was a big special teams play and

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a scoop and score that were the difference in that

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game for the Cardinals. So I have Louisville on big

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time upset alert in this game.

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Speaker 1: All right, You know, keep an eye on that Friday

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night game in the ACC Florida State and Virginia. Now

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Virginia is gonna pull this upset, but I mean this

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is definitely a trap game for the knowles, one of

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the just as the question describes, if they're sleepwalking, you know,

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and they're looking ahead to Miami the week after, which

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could could be the biggest Miami Florida State game in

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a couple of decades. I mean, we're talking getting back

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to one of those nineteen nineties matchups if they get

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their undefeated. As Matthew said, I mean, this is probably

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going to be you know, game Day, that sort of deal.

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been under the radar, but that's an improved team. They've

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got some offense there at Virginia this year. And if

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Florida State is really asleep at the wheel, that one

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could be a little closer than a lot of people expect.

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a bit here. Which national FBS game are you looking

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forward to to most in Week five? And we're wide

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open with this question. You know, this can be power

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for g five you can even have an FCS matchup

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and then give us your winner of that game.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I think it's hard to look past Oregon at

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Penn State.

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Speaker 5: It'll be wide out in Happy Valley.

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Speaker 4: Oregon is a team that I think a lot of

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people kind of slept on because they had so much

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roster turnover this year. But they look just as good

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as they did last year. I really like Dante Moore

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their quarterback. They have just as many offensive weapons, their

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defense might be better than last year. And Penn State,

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of course, I don't know if there's a more hostile

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place to play in the country than Penn State at night.

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So that's going to be an amazing game. I'm going

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to lean Penn State because of Drew Aller at quarterback

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and he's kind of been in those situations before and

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Dante Moore hasn't. But I think that's going to be

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a fantastic game. And you talked about Florida State UVA

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on Friday night, there's another game happening on Friday night

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out west in the Desert. TCU travels to Arizona State.

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That's a massive game in the Big Twelve. The winner

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of that game kind of joins Texas Tech in Iowa

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State up in the top of that conference and kind

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of controls their own destiny throughout the rest of the season.

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Speaker 5: So in a really crowded Big twelve, you have.

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Speaker 4: A night game in the desert that's going to be

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a really fun game that's a big one as well,

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and a third one for you know, third times of

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the charm Alabama Georgia kind of goes without saying.

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Speaker 1: I tell you what, Sam, Penn State better win that

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game because they've basically been able to prepare for it

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for an entire month. I look at Penn State's opening

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schedule Nevada, FIU, and Villanova.

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Speaker 6: I think they've.

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Speaker 1: They've had three live scrimmages and four weeks, four or

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five weeks to prepare for Oregon. So if they're ever

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going to knock off the Ducks, this would be it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean I could make an argument that of the

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schedules that Oregon and Penn State have played so far,

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the toughest matchup has probably been Oregon hosting Montana State

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the FCS team.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you really could make that argument.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or Oregons that you almost could argue that they've had,

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you know, four live games to prepare theirs was maybe

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slightly tougher, but this look at this schedule, this wouldn't

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exactly murderers rode for Oregon either Montana State, Oklahoma State

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Northwestern and Oregon State. So but basically both have had

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the entire months of September to prepare for the other.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's absolutely crazy how that scheduling worked out this year.

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Speaker 1: All right, Sam, we have too what we have two

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what we call open mic segments. I'm going to start

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you off with the first one. This is your time

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and only you to talk on whatever subject that you

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want to hit on for our this first open mic segment.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's it's funny because I actually was thinking

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back to when I was on y'all show last year,

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and I'm pretty sure I talked about how Virginia Tech

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was going to be pretty soon in the midst of

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an administrative change in their athletic program, and lo and behold,

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almost exactly a calendar year later, you have a mid

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season head coach firing and what looks like an ad

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on the way out the door, and what also looks

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like an increase in budget that would put Virginia Tech

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up there with Florida State with Clemson, with Miami, with

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Southern Methodist in terms of the highest athletic budgets in

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the ACC. And it's kind of funny how slow some

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of these things moves in academia. And you know, we

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tend not to think about it, but college football programs

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are under universities and things tend to move slow in

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those areas. And I think Virginia Tech is at a

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really interesting position here as a program because they have

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the buy in from the fans obviously, and you know,

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they have the buy in now from the university or

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so it seems. It really does seem like they just

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need the right guy. And there's a ton of really

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interesting coaching candidates that could come in. Not only your

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big name guys like Dan Mullen, jimbo Fisher, you know,

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all all those guys. Heck John Grudin if you want

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to get crazy with it. But there's a ton of

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really interesting G five guys like Ryan Silverfield from Memphis,

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Alex Golis from South Florida. Uh, you know, even Bob

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Chesney at James Madison. A lot of these guys that

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are really really interesting, and there's going to be a

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ton of big jobs though, But me, Florida could be open,

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Wisconsin obviously, Virginia Tech and UCLA are already open.

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Speaker 5: Iowa, who knows.

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Speaker 4: If Kirk Ference stays another year, Oklahoma State will probably

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be open. It's going to be one of the more

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competitive and interesting head coaching markets this season, and Virginia

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Tech is trying to position themselves in the best way possible.

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But guys, I think this is going to be an

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incredibly interesting head coaching search for the Hokies, and I

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think you could you might see a few more in

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the ACC. We'll see what happens in how this season

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shakes out. But I just think this is a really

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interesting time if you're a fan of the Hokies and

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if you're a fan of the ACC, because this is

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one of the biggest football programs that is going through

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a massive, massive change. I think it's just a phenomenal

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time to be really in the weeds of college football

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this year.

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Speaker 3: Well said, Well said open microphone number two.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for a sam? This is number two.

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Speaker 4: Number two, and I gotta this is more even more

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macro than that one. I don't know if there's been

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a season where there's no favorite for the national title

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like there is this year. I mean, Oregon and Penn

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stage are going to play each other and what I

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think could be the biggest game of the year, and

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the loser of that game still could probably win the

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national title. The winner of that game could still probably

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win the national title.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't think.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot separating team number one in team number ten,

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no matter how you rank those teams. I think that's

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a phenomenal place for the sports to be at. And

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I also think you have a handful of G five

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teams that could make their way into the playoff. Last year,

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we kind of knew it was Boise.

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Speaker 5: State the whole way.

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Speaker 4: This year, there's a handful of teams that could very

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well have a case to make it at the end

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of the year. I just think on the field, all

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the chatter there is about legal cases, court cases, Congress

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talk and new rule change, new playoff format, when you

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look at the game on the field, I don't know

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if college football's ever been in a better spot. So

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for me, like as a family, I'm saying like, I

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think it's a great time to just sit on your

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couch and watch college football because there are so many

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good teams. The season's wide open, absolutely wide open, and

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I can't wait to see it unfold. This weekend will

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go a long way into determining that, but it won't

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do the whole thing because we have the playoff now

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and it's going to feel a little bit more like

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college basketball. There's going to be more meaningful regular season games.

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So I think it's just a great, great season for

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college football so far.

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Speaker 2: Well said, Well said, Jeff, You're up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked a little about it. You know, when

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are impressive and then disappointing teams. But man, I want

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I want to get into Miami a little bit more. Man,

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this this, this Miami team is absolutely built different than

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than past uh you know, Mario Cristobaul teams. Even last

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year's team with Cam cam Warden started.

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Speaker 6: The year nine and nine.

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Speaker 1: And ohoh, Florida is for as bad as they are,

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and you know, Lagway has been been pretty much a

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train record at quarterback overall. But I mean they've got

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athletes at the line of scrimmage. I mean, they've they've

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got real athletes, even if they end up, you know,

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going two and ten or three and nine. And you know,

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Miami was in complete control of that game, minus a

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couple of shaky moments late in the third quarter, early

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in the fourth quarter, but they controlled the action. We've

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already seen them beat Notre Dame and then, you know,

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just destroy a good South Florida team, and I think

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that's a team that's capable of winning, you know, the

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National Championship. I mean, they have a pro prospect at quarterback.

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They got wide receivers everywhere, The offensive line is just

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mowing down people. They got a strong running game with defensive.

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Speaker 3: Ends Brown Yeah, I told you about him, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The defensive ends might be the best pair of defensive

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ends in college football. And you know, when you see

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them play, it kind of reminds you of those those

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you know, nineteen nineties Miami team's early two thousands teams.

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I mean, they've got a little bit of that going

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on right now. I mean, okay, it's only four weeks

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into the season, and you know Miami's has gotten fast

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starts before, but I feel like this this one's built

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to last. They're a real threat to win it all.

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And I don't know what's going on with the coaches

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pole having them number six. I don't know how you

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can have them outside the top three right now. And

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as far as like, you know what team has been

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the most impressive the month of September and including the

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schedule with wins, I mean, I think it has.

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Speaker 6: To be Miami.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think any team has just played as well

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over the course of the month, you know, including the

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opponents that they've played, than Miami. If you want to

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put Ohio State number one at the moment, I mean,

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I'm okay with that, but I don't know how you

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can have them outside the top three.

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Speaker 3: I think it's a fair statement, Jeff. I'll just add

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this though it's way or it's We're only four games

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into the season. We haven't really seen any of Mario's

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clock management yet. I have still had questions about that.

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I have questions about whether he can sometimes coach a QB.

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He doesn't necessarily have the same type of QB he

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had last year in terms of the running style.

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Speaker 2: He does have. And I mentioned Shamar Brown.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned Shamar Brown, and I'm gonna ask this is

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my open mic to Sam Sam. Is Schamar Brown going

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to be on an All acc team by the end

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of the year. You know why I'm asking that ad

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su transfer.

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Speaker 5: He is, he's he's. I mean, he very well might be.

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Speaker 4: And look, one thing is, if they keep winning games

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and they need to run out the clock in the

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second half, he could have some he could have some

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stat padding games here pretty soon. Because they were in

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a game where they were able to pull away from Florida. Uh,

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but that was, you know, a kind of a tight

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game for most of the time. And then I just think, Man,

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this Miami team to me right now, if I'm just

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doing a power ranking just off of vibes and off

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of look, they're the number one team in the country

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right now, and I don't think it's particularly close.

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Speaker 2: And I think it's fair.

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Speaker 3: I still want to see Mario in in a pressure

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pack situation, in a pressure pack situation. And I heard

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somebody say today, and I know I sound like like

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I'm being uper critical. How many real tough games does

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Miami have the rest of the year where they're going

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to get tested hard?

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Speaker 2: I you know, I'm I.

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Speaker 3: Probably sound I agree with everything you guys said, But

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Mario has a history of not managing the clock, and

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you know, maybe maybe his athletes are so good that

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they he doesn't doesn't necessarily have to have to, you know.

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Speaker 2: Put those skills into play. But count me in is

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a little, just a little skeptical.

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Speaker 5: Yet.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, guys, I hate saying that.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to sound really we are an acc

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podcasts and I don't want to sound like I'm raining

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on the party here, raining on the parade. As they say,

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I want to see, I want to see a little more.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair? Is that fair? Guys?

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Speaker 6: Man, Matthew, your tough grader.

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Speaker 5: I do think it's fair. Like you talk about the

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clock issues.

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Speaker 4: For me, it's like I don't know if I would

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be ready to say, yeah, Miami can win a national title.

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Their last two games of the season are at Virginia

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Tech and at Pittsburgh. It is like it's like back

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to back, perfect spots for.

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Speaker 5: Miami to lose.

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Speaker 4: Usually they only get one of those cold weather games

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at the end of the year. This year they get

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two back to back, and it's gonna with the way

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pitt in Virginia Tech seasons are laying out, that's gonna

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be the super Bowl for both of those teams. I'm like,

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there is a world where Miami is the number one

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team in the country in ten and oh and loses both.

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Speaker 5: Of those games.

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Speaker 4: Like that is totally within the realm of possibility here.

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Speaker 6: I just.

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Speaker 3: I want to see bit of pressure pack situation. So

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he doesn't have the quarterback that he had last year.

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That's a that's a music musician, So you're right up

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a tough grader, Jeff, But I want to see if

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he's learned from his mistakes here.

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Speaker 2: So, uh, before we go, where can we find you? Sam? What?

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Speaker 3: What sorts of work? Can we find you on Twitter?

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Where can you find your site on Twitter? Where can

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we Is there anything else that you want to plug

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in terms of what you're blogging, you're podcasting about right now,

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anything you want to plug in, people that you're working

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with at the site. I know you mentioned your podcast,

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your podcast podcast partner, Pete, but anybody else that you

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want to plug over with this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just give a big shout out to the

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whole Suns of Saturday team. They've handled a coaching firing

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and search as well as any team could hope for.

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So I'm super proud of those guys. You can check

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out the work Sons of Saturday dot com. If you

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just type in Sons of Saturday it'll be the first

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thing to pop up. One of our writers, Paul, is

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going to have a really cool deep dive into the

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Virginia Tech NC State series history. Out of the last

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thirteen matchups for those teams, nine of them have been

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one score games, so it's been a really tightly competitive

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series between two schools that are pretty darn close to

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each other. So that will be interesting for both hockey

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fans and Wolfpack fans. And then on Twitter you can

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find me at Sam of Saturday and it is just

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going to be a stream of consciousness, a few betting picks,

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a few analytics stuff here and there, but come over

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talk to me on Twitter. I'm on there chronically, probably

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for the worst, but I would love to come and

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chat ball with you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much for spending your Sunday evening with

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us on the All Fours Discussion ACC podcast.

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Speaker 2: Sam.

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Speaker 3: We'd love to have you come back on the show

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again sometime. Thanks so much for thanks so much for

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your

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Speaker 4: Time anytime, fellas Sam Ever,