WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:08.960 Multiple people in my family clean my father, are veterans 2 00:00:09.080 --> 00:00:09.199 and the. 3 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:11.759 Troops that have been to war and now they're back. 4 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:15.439 And think and be grateful for their service, sacrifice, love 5 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:19.320 for their country, just unselfishness, all that they do for us. 6 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:22.719 There are some people in this country who take extraordinary 7 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:25.640 steps to provide for the freedom and security. 8 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:27.359 We forget that those people exist. 9 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:31.320 We know them as the Army, Navy, air Force, Marines, 10 00:00:31.359 --> 00:00:38.920 and Coast Guard. 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George is currently on staff at Camp 72 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:09.879 Hope where you serve your branch. 73 00:04:09.960 --> 00:04:10.520 That kind of thing. 74 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:15.360 Join the Marines back in two thousand and four, served 75 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:18.399 till all the way to two thousand and eight, do 76 00:04:18.600 --> 00:04:23.800 three deployment deployments to Iraq one Westpac. I've been on 77 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:28.040 staff with the Foundations for two years. 78 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:30.519 And what do you do? 79 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:31.600 What's your typical day. 80 00:04:32.519 --> 00:04:36.720 I'm the intake coordinator. I'm the first person these gentlemen 81 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:39.000 see when they come into camp. I make sure they 82 00:04:39.000 --> 00:04:44.920 get all squared away and put in their new home. 83 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:49.319 Absolutely and also on the show with Us Today's Gentlemen, 84 00:04:49.399 --> 00:04:52.000 that's currently in the program at Camp Hope. Joe, you 85 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:53.319 want to introduce yourself. 86 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:58.439 Yes, my name is Joe Driver. Born in a small 87 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:03.920 town Griffin, Joy Rodia. Graduated in eighty eight and I 88 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:05.720 joined the Navy in eighty eight. 89 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:13.199 So what is the the pride of Griffin is it? 90 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:15.879 You know, every town seems to have its thing, whether 91 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:20.360 it's well corn dogs or barbecue or. 92 00:05:20.399 --> 00:05:23.279 Well, once upon a time it was the football team 93 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:24.480 the Griffin. 94 00:05:24.079 --> 00:05:25.759 Bears when you played for him. 95 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:31.199 Well, actually I played like on the JV but I 96 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:33.079 end up quitting in practice. 97 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:35.279 Yeah. 98 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:38.079 So, but they had a great football team first, yes, sir, 99 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:41.680 all right, so what position did you played. 100 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:44.079 Before you Well, yeah, I was. I was gonna be 101 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.199 the wide receiver. I can see that, you know. 102 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:51.399 You know how Allen Iverson kept talking like we talking 103 00:05:51.439 --> 00:05:54.959 about practice. Now, Yeah, I didn't get hit hard during 104 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:58.879 the game. I got hit hard at practice and my 105 00:05:58.959 --> 00:06:00.360 football career was over. 106 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:06.439 Well, I got hit once, the hardest I ever have 107 00:06:06.519 --> 00:06:07.519 been hit in my life. 108 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:11.560 Now that even mentioned that I was in practice football practice. 109 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:13.519 That's the truth. That's the hardest I've ever been hit 110 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:14.120 in my life. 111 00:06:14.240 --> 00:06:17.480 Yes, sir, I was a little bitty, still not exactly 112 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:18.040 you know. 113 00:06:18.439 --> 00:06:19.120 Yeah, me too. 114 00:06:19.279 --> 00:06:23.560 Ye've been small my whole life. Also, normally the skinniest 115 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:24.319 guy in the room. 116 00:06:24.639 --> 00:06:28.680 Yeah, and I was up against like the biggest, baddest 117 00:06:28.759 --> 00:06:31.879 dude on our team. Yes, during practice, oh my soul. 118 00:06:31.959 --> 00:06:32.480 Yeah. 119 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:33.120 Yeah. 120 00:06:33.319 --> 00:06:37.240 But however, though, I was in j r OTC in 121 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:39.720 high school and I was on the drill team. So 122 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:43.720 that what led me to the military, because I enjoyed 123 00:06:44.240 --> 00:06:47.160 the ROTC so much that I decided to join. 124 00:06:47.680 --> 00:06:51.720 Okay, was there any family affiliation into the military. 125 00:06:51.920 --> 00:06:56.399 Well, my uncle Kenny, he was in the Army in 126 00:06:56.600 --> 00:07:00.439 like the seventies or whatever. Yep, and he's like the 127 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:04.079 only one. But like I say, I enjoyed, you know, 128 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:08.000 the drill team and ROTC so much, and I was 129 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:10.360 kind of tired of school, didn't want to go straight 130 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:13.759 to college, so I decided to join the military. 131 00:07:14.160 --> 00:07:14.600 All right. 132 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:17.920 Is that about the time the Navy was saying to 133 00:07:17.959 --> 00:07:21.000 join the Navy sea the world. Yes, sir, Yes, sir, 134 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:24.519 we're watching some of those commercials. Yes sir, from the 135 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:27.399 inside of a ship. That sounds great, Yes, sir. 136 00:07:27.959 --> 00:07:32.759 I graduated in nineteen eighty eight, and two weeks after graduation, 137 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:33.879 I was in boot camp. 138 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:35.000 All right. 139 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:37.680 All right, so we're gonna run to break here in 140 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:41.120 just a moment. Just remind her PTSDUSA dot org for 141 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:45.079 all the information on our programs both at Camp Hope 142 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:49.920 as well as our combat veteran support groups are family 143 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:54.120 support groups. PTSDUSA dot org. Everything we do is absolutely 144 00:07:54.199 --> 00:07:54.800 zero costs. 145 00:07:55.240 --> 00:08:19.759 PTSDUSA dot org. Be right back, all right. 146 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:26.519 You said it was Griffin Georgia, so Griffin, Georgia got 147 00:08:26.519 --> 00:08:27.480 a good football team. 148 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.040 They used to have until they split up the schools. 149 00:08:31.319 --> 00:08:33.879 I mean, we only used to have one high school. 150 00:08:33.960 --> 00:08:35.960 So Griffin's on the map. Now they got more than 151 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:36.840 one high school. 152 00:08:38.039 --> 00:08:39.720 Three four different high schools. 153 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:43.360 Now, George, where are you from? Originally in Okay? So 154 00:08:43.399 --> 00:08:44.919 we have more than one high school? 155 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:48.559 Yeah, you were right around the corner from each other. 156 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:50.679 Yeah, exactly. 157 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:56.840 Uh, okay, so good at good at football until they 158 00:08:56.879 --> 00:09:00.840 split the school into two. Uh what was the best 159 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:03.039 If I went to Griffin, Georgia? There where would be 160 00:09:03.080 --> 00:09:05.039 the spot to go eat? 161 00:09:05.360 --> 00:09:05.639 Oh? 162 00:09:05.759 --> 00:09:10.279 Man, I haven't lived in Griffin in so long? Okay, yeah, 163 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:12.240 I live in Atlanta now, like gotcha? 164 00:09:12.279 --> 00:09:13.840 Well, there's a few to choose from Atlanta. 165 00:09:13.960 --> 00:09:18.240 Yes, yes, quite a few places in Atlanta. But ever 166 00:09:18.279 --> 00:09:20.240 since I got out of the military, that's where I 167 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.120 resided in Atlanta. 168 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:25.879 Gotcha? All right? So you joined the Navy. What you're 169 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:26.519 again eighty eight? 170 00:09:26.639 --> 00:09:27.840 In eighty eight? Yes, sir? 171 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:30.879 Why why did you choose the Navy over or anything else? 172 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:33.320 Well, to be honest with you, I didn't want to 173 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.440 sleep in the woods. I didn't want to sleep outside. 174 00:09:37.240 --> 00:09:40.559 I said it side be on the ship. 175 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:44.320 Yeah, no, no, no, yeah, everybody's got the reasons. Yeah, that's 176 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:46.360 why I asked. That's the I wouldn't want to be 177 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:46.919 on a ship. 178 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:51.759 Yeah, kind of like a sitting duck. Huh. Yeah. 179 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:56.279 And I'm not clusterphobic, but I can't imagine being on 180 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:00.559 a boat for like three months or you know whatever. 181 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:01.279 It's not fun. 182 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.320 Well have you been have you done that? 183 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:05.799 Yeah? I was on the USS Ogden for one of 184 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:08.080 my deployments and they had us in like a little 185 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:08.799 coffin rocks. 186 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:12.000 Yeah, there's snowboy's claustrophobic. 187 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:16.159 Well, you know, like actually, you know, the longest ever 188 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:19.639 did at sea without hitting a port, there was no 189 00:10:19.720 --> 00:10:23.279 more than like thirty three to forty days. So like 190 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:26.720 if the ship is gone for six months, they may 191 00:10:26.840 --> 00:10:32.840 hit ten thirteen ports. Why they gone unless you know 192 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:37.480 it's time for some action or whatever. Then yeah, still 193 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:38.320 other scenario. 194 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:39.679 Yeah, I just. 195 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:45.559 The thought of the only way out is you're one 196 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:48.279 thousand miles away, so you're not going to swim there, 197 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:51.799 so you're you're stuck. That's just something about that that 198 00:10:51.879 --> 00:10:55.360 doesn't don't sit right. No, I'm not done with that. 199 00:10:55.960 --> 00:10:57.600 But to each thron you want you didn't want to 200 00:10:57.600 --> 00:10:58.200 sleep outside. 201 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.919 That's cool. Yeah, that's that's the honest truth, you know. 202 00:11:02.159 --> 00:11:04.720 I cause, like I say, my uncle was in the 203 00:11:04.840 --> 00:11:08.320 Army and I was in the Army j r OTC. 204 00:11:09.600 --> 00:11:14.080 And but you know, some reason I decided to join 205 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:14.559 the Navy. 206 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:15.799 All right. 207 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:18.080 So your first deployment was what. 208 00:11:18.039 --> 00:11:20.039 Year ninety ninety one. 209 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:23.639 We were sent to the Gulf and we was there 210 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:27.360 for a little while, and then all of a sudden 211 00:11:27.399 --> 00:11:30.519 they had picked my battle group to go back on 212 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:36.120 another mission up toward the Mediterranean Sea, and we picked 213 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:41.279 up some refugees in Liberia, Africa and ended up dropping 214 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:43.679 them off up by Morocco Africa. 215 00:11:44.559 --> 00:11:49.000 And yeah, that was there was. 216 00:11:49.080 --> 00:11:54.200 Quite an experience that I don't want to experience again, really. 217 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:55.120 I know. 218 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:59.080 No, George, where were you in nineteen ninety one? 219 00:12:00.279 --> 00:12:01.080 How old were you? 220 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:01.879 Maybe? 221 00:12:02.159 --> 00:12:02.759 Third grade? 222 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:03.559 Yeah? 223 00:12:04.720 --> 00:12:09.120 Yeah, oh man, I've been out so many years that 224 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:13.320 you know, a lot of things that was done and 225 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:15.840 seen and said kind of run. 226 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:18.200 Blur together, people forget. 227 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:21.279 Yeah, And I don't know if it's all time is 228 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:24.759 coming earl or is it some of the medications that 229 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:28.360 I'm on or what have you, you know, But my 230 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:32.639 you know, mentally my mind, it's like comes and go. 231 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:35.159 Yeah. 232 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:39.879 So since you're at Camp Hope, you obviously understand. We've 233 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:42.320 got guys that are they're they're that are younger than you, 234 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:44.360 got guys that are older. And you've got guys that 235 00:12:44.720 --> 00:12:48.080 stepped out of Afghanistan not that long you said, eighteen, 236 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:49.159 Is that when you left? 237 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:51.159 I left when I was eighteen? 238 00:12:51.679 --> 00:12:56.080 Yeah? No, no, no, what year did you leave? Combat? 239 00:12:56.399 --> 00:13:02.159 Oh wow, relative speak seven oh seven? Okay, all right, 240 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:04.679 so it's been a little while then, yeah, okay, all right, 241 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:08.080 but we've got some guys that stepped out of Afghanistan 242 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:10.720 twenty twenty one, so not that long ago. We got 243 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:14.279 Vietnam VET guys. Yes, that it was fifty plus years ago. 244 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:19.399 So there's a whole lot of everything around care. But 245 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:24.559 here's the thing. Like last week we had a guy 246 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.519 on here, one of our staff members served in Somalia. 247 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:32.759 A lot of our guys or a lot of calm 248 00:13:32.840 --> 00:13:35.440 if you went on the man on the street kind 249 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:38.159 of mission, you know, and he just went downtown with 250 00:13:38.200 --> 00:13:40.960 the microphone, said, hey, tell me what happened in Samalia. 251 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:47.000 They just kind of if they saw they happened to 252 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:50.320 see the movie Black Hawk Down that's where they would go, right, 253 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:54.320 you know, the goal for a lot of the same 254 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:57.200 kind of response. I don't have a clue. Now, we're 255 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:59.039 not a war story show, so that's not what it 256 00:13:59.080 --> 00:14:03.240 deal is. But here's the war is war wherever it was, right, 257 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.759 Trauma is trauma, whatever the trauma is, sir. At Campope, 258 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:11.879 obviously we're dealing with combat related trauma, but all other traumas. 259 00:14:11.879 --> 00:14:14.720 Once you get there, it's it's everything. Right, we dumped 260 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:17.120 the whole truck, so it's a little bit of everything. 261 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:19.759 But there's no comparison. 262 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:24.720 Right, sir, it's not. But it was like a major 263 00:14:25.000 --> 00:14:28.840 It was like a big explosion that happened on my 264 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:36.600 ship and the compartments were filled with black smoke like instantly. 265 00:14:37.480 --> 00:14:40.039 So you know, like when you first get to a ship, 266 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:44.240 they blindfold you and they train you how to get 267 00:14:44.279 --> 00:14:48.159 around on your ship not being able to see. And 268 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:51.120 I was thanking God for that, you know what I mean, 269 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:55.399 because you couldn't see your hand half an inch from 270 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:58.679 your face, you know. And then we had to find 271 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.759 out what it was and we had a big, major 272 00:15:02.720 --> 00:15:07.799 electrical fire aboard the ship, which that it was the year. 273 00:15:08.919 --> 00:15:13.440 It was a lot of mishaps happening in the army 274 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:17.840 and the Navy, and I'm not really sure about the Marines. 275 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:22.039 Maybe two, but it was probably maybe ten to thirteen 276 00:15:22.279 --> 00:15:29.840 mishaps that happened. And like I say, between that, the 277 00:15:30.039 --> 00:15:36.919 refugees out of Africa and I was short deployment to 278 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:40.879 the Gulf, you know. Like I say, it all runs 279 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:45.360 like a blur, you know, and I would have dreams, 280 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:52.399 you know about those things, you know, And like I say, though, 281 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:56.600 being that young, I was seventeen years old and my 282 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:00.879 mom had to sign me in and she wasn't gonna 283 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:03.720 do it, but when she saw I wasn't giving up, 284 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:08.679 she went ahead and signed. And you know, we know 285 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:12.799 what we joined for to protect our country or whatever, 286 00:16:13.879 --> 00:16:19.159 but you really don't know till you get there. You 287 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:23.080 know what I'm saying. It's like, now you're gonna do. 288 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:26.600 You gotta do what you trained to do or whatever, 289 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:31.440 you know, because you want to survive whatever happened, and 290 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:34.480 the person next to you, and if you don't do 291 00:16:34.559 --> 00:16:35.919 your train and then. 292 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:38.919 Yeah, it could be problems. 293 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:42.120 Well you joined eighty eight, yes, sir, that would have 294 00:16:42.120 --> 00:16:43.320 been considered peacetime. 295 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:47.919 Well, yes, sir, yes, sir. Peace sign to the Gulf 296 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:48.840 war kicked off. 297 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:52.399 Yeah, so I mean I would think to some degree, 298 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:55.679 how old were you when you joined seventeen seventeen? 299 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:56.159 Yeah, so. 300 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:02.720 One at seventeen, we all think we're you know, we're invincible, Yeah, 301 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:06.039 which we're not, but we kinda live our life that way, 302 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:11.599 like you're ever gonna die. Yeah, but even to some degree, 303 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:13.759 there had to be a realization I'm joining the Navy. 304 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:18.119 There's always the possibility, though, I think it, you know, 305 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:23.960 going back to eighty eight, probably not first and foremost 306 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:25.960 on your mind at age seventeen, that hey, I could 307 00:17:25.960 --> 00:17:26.640 be going to war. 308 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:28.759 Yep, it was No, it wasn't. 309 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:32.799 And then you know how you usc on TV like 310 00:17:34.519 --> 00:17:36.960 a person that said they going to war, and they'd 311 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:41.640 be like gung ho or whatever. Like when you actually 312 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:47.480 there and you're told that you're going, uh if like 313 00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:51.279 twelve hundred marines aboard my ship and probably about six 314 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:54.839 seven hundred navy and you could hear a pin drop? 315 00:17:55.160 --> 00:17:56.640 Yeah what ship were you on? 316 00:17:57.160 --> 00:18:01.039 I was on the inch on out of Norfolk virgin All. 317 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:04.200 Right, okay, we're gonna take a quick break. Reminder of 318 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.039 eight seven seven seven one seven seventy eight seventy three 319 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:10.160 is our combat trauma crisis line answered by a combat 320 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:13.079 that eight seven seven seven one seven seventy eight seventy three. 321 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:15.599 Gonna take a quick break and be right back with 322 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:16.480 more of Road. 323 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:38.200 To Hope Radio. All right, welcome back to Road to 324 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:38.720 Hope Radio. 325 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:40.599 David Maulsby here, Glad to have you along. 326 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:42.680 Got George, who is a. 327 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:46.079 United States sub Marine Corps veteran currently serves on the 328 00:18:46.119 --> 00:18:51.119 staff at Camp Hope, PTSD, Foundation of America. Got Joe, 329 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:57.400 United States Navy veteran hails from Griffin, Georgia, but currently 330 00:18:57.480 --> 00:19:00.400 at Camp Hope. Remind me again, well more time, the 331 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:01.240 name of that ship you were. 332 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:02.319 On, the Incheon? 333 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:04.079 The Incheon? Okay, I should remember that. 334 00:19:04.400 --> 00:19:04.799 All right? 335 00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:07.400 What was the best meal you had on the Incheon? 336 00:19:07.640 --> 00:19:09.640 That's the most important question of the show, by the way, 337 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:12.480 the most important show question. 338 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:16.000 Uh, I don't know. I believe it was that they 339 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:19.640 had rabbit. You had rabbit one day and it actually 340 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:22.319 a rabbit stew or no, oh they. 341 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:24.480 Just yeah, all right, you know how you got the 342 00:19:24.640 --> 00:19:29.319 chocolate candy like you look like the rabbitt with the 343 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:33.559 eye think, yeah, yes, it looked like that. The Eastern rabbit. Yeah, 344 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:36.079 the bunny. It looked just like that in the pan. 345 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:39.680 Like at first, I was yead to eat it, but. 346 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:43.279 Uh, pretty good, pretty good. And it tastes like chicken. Yes, sir, 347 00:19:44.359 --> 00:19:45.519 everything tastes like chicken. 348 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.359 That's not cha. All right, how long you been at 349 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:48.759 Camp Hope. 350 00:19:48.759 --> 00:19:51.559 By the way, I've been at Camp Hope. 351 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:57.599 What probably about thirty eight the thirty nine days something 352 00:19:57.680 --> 00:19:58.039 like that. 353 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:01.200 Okay, what's the best mo you've had some fort Camp Hope. 354 00:20:02.039 --> 00:20:05.440 Oh, it's been a few good meals. 355 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:06.759 Better than rabbit. 356 00:20:07.359 --> 00:20:10.359 Yeah, yeah, I was actually scared to eat that rabbit. 357 00:20:10.440 --> 00:20:13.039 But uh, I said, it looked like a rabbit. You 358 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:15.599 know what I mean, you used to meat it, don't normally? 359 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:18.039 It looked like the animal that it came. 360 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:20.160 No, no, I can see the whole, you know, if 361 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:25.119 you're gonna you know, yeah, clean it, parcel it out. 362 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:27.359 Make a stew. I can see that. 363 00:20:27.519 --> 00:20:30.400 I just yeah, but anyway, go ahead, best meal, Camp Hope? 364 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:32.279 What should give me your best to or threw? 365 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.000 I want to say what they had? They like casa 366 00:20:36.200 --> 00:20:40.640 shrimp with the red beans and rice. That was a 367 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:41.599 pretty good meal. 368 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:44.240 Uh, I do that all day every day? 369 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:47.279 Yeah? Oh, what was your favorite. 370 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:51.960 That's a hard choice right there. Camp Hope actually has 371 00:20:52.000 --> 00:20:53.400 a great staff of cooks. 372 00:20:53.559 --> 00:20:54.200 They really do. 373 00:20:54.480 --> 00:20:58.240 Miss Kim the breakfast works breakfast or breakfast is amazing. 374 00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:02.759 You gotta shove. And then Ms Patty her food is amazing, 375 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:05.759 especially the homemade homsses she makes. 376 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:07.359 Yeah, oh nice. 377 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:08.400 Yeah. 378 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:14.319 So while you are a resident at Camp Hope, were 379 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:17.960 you a resident like during the holidays ever? Okay, so 380 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:23.079 one of my faves about Camp Hope is yes, we 381 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:27.680 do have a great cook staff, fantastic, but we have 382 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:33.519 a great community of supporters and sometimes you know, it's 383 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:35.839 a group that brings in sacklynches or something like that 384 00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:39.240 that's kind of simple and basic, and that's very much 385 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:41.960 appreciated as well because it gives our staff a bit 386 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.119 of a break chance to captch up on other things 387 00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.599 that they need to be doing. But there's also groups 388 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:57.079 like at Thanksgiving there's a guy and probably twelve of 389 00:21:57.119 --> 00:22:01.200 his friends from a small church and Katie that come 390 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:06.839 in the day before and they start prepping for Thanksgiving 391 00:22:07.119 --> 00:22:09.920 dinner and they fire up that you've seen the smoker. 392 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:11.559 I don't know if you've been there where the smoker's 393 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.359 been lit up, But when it gets lit up. Everybody 394 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:16.720 knows it's going to be a good day. So they 395 00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:20.480 would come out the night before, they'd start prepping and 396 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:24.960 end up they smoke, you know, between thirty and forty turkeys. 397 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:29.359 And by the way, you know a lot of people 398 00:22:29.440 --> 00:22:32.079 try to smoke a turkey, not everybody can actually do it. 399 00:22:32.279 --> 00:22:35.839 These folks know how to do. Yes, I wouldn't even try. 400 00:22:35.960 --> 00:22:36.599 I know better. 401 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:39.839