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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog.

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<v Speaker 1>My dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 1>the fence and he was dead. And once you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I

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<v Speaker 1>saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling

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<v Speaker 1>around out here? Did you see what it was? Or

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<v Speaker 1>was it was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through

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<v Speaker 1>the window now and I don't see anything. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to go outside. Jesus Quice, you better hello, get

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<v Speaker 1>somebody out here.

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<v Speaker 2>What went on out there?

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<v Speaker 1>I've thought of a bit of about six ft nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You see him out there? Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>right away. Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Readings from Alaska Red Roll Curry, young tribal console member

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<v Speaker 2>from doing Him Alaska quick update. I did the interview

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday with one of my relatives on camera. He didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like being on camera. I told him if he wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to remain anonymous, that's fine too. It's not in our culture.

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<v Speaker 2>So as a little gun shy as far as being

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<v Speaker 2>on camera, which I understand. I just don't care what

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<v Speaker 2>anyone thinks because there's too much of this stuff going

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<v Speaker 2>on to just keep ignoring. You'll hear him tell what

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<v Speaker 2>he's been through. Me and him, we've known each other

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<v Speaker 2>since knee I I have elementary school yearbooks wearing them together.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a relative of mine, and we grew up over

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<v Speaker 2>in Bristol Bay, commercial salmon fisherman and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I wanted to touch on is usually when

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<v Speaker 2>stuff happens like that to any of us out in

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<v Speaker 2>the bush, First Nation, we discussed it amongst each other

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit, but once we get back to the village,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not something we go downtown. Hey we saw Harryman

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<v Speaker 2>up there. It's just not what we do. Having someone

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<v Speaker 2>else share is important to me, because, like I've said,

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<v Speaker 2>these things that happen out in the bush are not

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<v Speaker 2>unique to me. I am nothing special when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to having encounters. I've had several myself, but it's not me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the area. He shocked me when I asked him, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got any good Harry Man stories? Just shooting in

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<v Speaker 2>the dark? He had called me and wanted to get

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<v Speaker 2>something to eat when he came into town from dealing here,

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<v Speaker 2>I agreed to go get something to eat. I asked him,

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<v Speaker 2>as we're getting off the phone, by chancing any good

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<v Speaker 2>Harryman stories, And the first thing out of his mouth

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<v Speaker 2>was New Yakuk River. I'll leave it at that. It

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<v Speaker 2>was not a friendly encounter. I'll let him say it

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<v Speaker 2>in his own words. He'll the off camera and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just going to be campfire style. I'm just gonna chop

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<v Speaker 2>it up with them, and it's not gonna be like

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<v Speaker 2>what day, what time. It's not even like that. We're

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<v Speaker 2>too close for that kind of interaction. It's just going

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<v Speaker 2>to be natural and casual. I feel it's more honest

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<v Speaker 2>that way. It doesn't feel forest or directed or scripted.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd just rather him just tell it. How are you

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<v Speaker 2>spelling it? But while I'm here, I have something I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to share back in It was nineteen ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the last time I attempted to stay year

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<v Speaker 2>round in Dillingham, just because the job opportunities were just

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<v Speaker 2>not doable. Me and I we'll call him William. I

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<v Speaker 2>reached out to him. I wanted to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>him to talk about this experience. Me and William we

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<v Speaker 2>went chicken hunting. He picked me up where I was

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<v Speaker 2>staying and doing him there and we went out to

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<v Speaker 2>Lake Road. Now spruce chickens back then, fifty hundred of

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<v Speaker 2>them on the side of the road. It is not uncommon.

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<v Speaker 2>We call them dumb chickens because you can get out,

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<v Speaker 2>check a rock and get one that type of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're actually just going out to be social, hangout,

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<v Speaker 2>do our village boy thing or whatever. We get to

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen mile gravel pit on Electing Get Road and as

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<v Speaker 2>we're pulling in there, they had started blocking it off,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's trails around it for four wheelers and snow

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<v Speaker 2>machines in the winter time. So we pull up to

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<v Speaker 2>the gate, he kills the angine and we decide we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to hike to the back of the pit check

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<v Speaker 2>out this little pond that accumulated from melting. They developed

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<v Speaker 2>pond back in there, and he wanted to check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone had said of beaver was moving in there or something.

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<v Speaker 2>So we get back in there and it's a good

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred yards to the back of the pit. It's

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<v Speaker 2>approximately seventy five yards wide and then off to the

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<v Speaker 2>left it has this huge mound of overburden that had

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<v Speaker 2>been pushed off to the side to access more gravel

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<v Speaker 2>and whatnot. So as Williams walk and he handed me

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<v Speaker 2>a little fujifilm insta camera thing. It click disposable kind.

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<v Speaker 2>He just turned on the whole thing to get processed. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>he had it too many goes, I'm going to vote

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of the pond, and I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to take a picture of me. I'm going to walk

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<v Speaker 2>out halfway into the pond up to my knees because

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<v Speaker 2>he had on some hip waiters and he goes trying

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<v Speaker 2>to squat down and get the perspective like I'm dead

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<v Speaker 2>center in the middle of this pond. And I was like, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was just something he wanted to do. I thought

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<v Speaker 2>nothing of it. We were armed. All I had was

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<v Speaker 2>like a nine milimeter and a little holster, a little

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<v Speaker 2>smith and wise and just noisemaker. Really not discounting the

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<v Speaker 2>nine millimeter, but here in Alaska nine milimeters you use

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<v Speaker 2>that on people. So as I'm talking to him and

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<v Speaker 2>he's walking around, I was like, well, like an old lady,

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<v Speaker 2>we're guys. We bust eacha oller's chops constantly. So he

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<v Speaker 2>gets around there and he goes, I don't have a

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<v Speaker 2>good spot, and I wasn't paying attention to him, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing something. I had heard something back by

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<v Speaker 2>the truck, almost like someone slamming the door of the truck.

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<v Speaker 2>That don't happen in Dilly here. Typically someone's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to go rummish through your vehicle and it's parked on

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<v Speaker 2>the side of the road. Not typically, at least not

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<v Speaker 2>back then. So I looked back at the truck and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not paying attention to him. And as I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the truck trying to figure out what that sound

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<v Speaker 2>came from, Coblue, I heard a splash. So I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>oh shit, William Vilkin in the pond. So I turned around.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting the little Fuji throwing out of my pocket

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<v Speaker 2>to get a picture of him. So I turned around,

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<v Speaker 2>the ponds rippling from whatever splashed in there, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>standing there, pale white. Click. I took the picture. I

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<v Speaker 2>just took it just because it all happened so quickly,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was whinding it and I was like, what

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<v Speaker 2>did you throw in?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>All he had to do was get my attention and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, I didn't throw anything in that came from

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<v Speaker 2>up the hill. I was like, I did tumble down

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<v Speaker 2>on some him. I didn't hear it because normally here

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't that kind of deal. He had this look

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<v Speaker 2>on his face. They said, did you throw it? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you missing with what's going on? And he goes, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but I don't feel right. And so I

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<v Speaker 2>started to just sense in the area because we're down

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<v Speaker 2>in the bottom of this pit and we got walls

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<v Speaker 2>around us and trees behind him. So there's a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a bluff of the overburdened line and it's

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<v Speaker 2>about a four foot height tip where the grass and

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<v Speaker 2>the trees and with the rest of the top soll

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<v Speaker 2>begins and then pushes back. So I'm discussing with them,

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<v Speaker 2>and at this time I'll continue around the pond to

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<v Speaker 2>come to where he is now. He had brought a

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<v Speaker 2>firearm as well, but he left it in the truck.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a nine millimeter on my hip just make noise,

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<v Speaker 2>scare bear off. The only rifle he had was like

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<v Speaker 2>a little four ten for the dumb chickens, the spruce chicken.

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<v Speaker 2>So as I'm talking to him where I had gone.

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<v Speaker 2>The trees were behind me now, so I'm basically facing

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<v Speaker 2>back the direction I was just at with him in

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<v Speaker 2>between me and this little pond, and I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>are you messing with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>Because this ain't cool. I don't want to have something

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<v Speaker 2>out here chucking rocks at us. And I brought up

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<v Speaker 2>the Harry Man. He goes, I think it was a

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<v Speaker 2>Harry Matt and I laughed because I wasn't mocking him.

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<v Speaker 2>I just didn't get any sense of danger because typically

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<v Speaker 2>the pressure changes. And I'm like, so, what makes you

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a Harry Man? And he points back behind

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<v Speaker 2>over my shoulder. I thought he was joking. When I

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<v Speaker 2>turned around, there's birch tree, a spruce tree, and then

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<v Speaker 2>a little thing of I think they'd be poplars older

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that, A little batch of those, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were grouped and fanned out up towards the top,

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<v Speaker 2>almost like a willow. Behind this willow right offset from

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<v Speaker 2>these two, this birch and this spruce tree was a

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<v Speaker 2>very big dark shadow swinging back and forth. Now, if

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<v Speaker 2>you were to initially look at this shadow moving, it

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<v Speaker 2>would appear it was shadow blowing the wind and the

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<v Speaker 2>leaves and the trees and stuff, because it looked very fluid,

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<v Speaker 2>like it was happening in nature, but it was the Harryman.

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<v Speaker 2>I was stuck. I knew what I was seeing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I knew what was going on. I had already drawn

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<v Speaker 2>the nine millimeter and I was asking him. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you think it is going to follow us back

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<v Speaker 2>to the truck? Should I shoot it? And he's not

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<v Speaker 2>saying nothing to me. I hear him walking behind me,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes over and he picks up this rock

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, I'm gonna throw a rock at I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to try to scare it off to give us

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<v Speaker 2>time to get back. Because we had almost two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>yards to get back to the truck. We had a

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<v Speaker 2>distance to go, and this thing was fifty feet away

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<v Speaker 2>at most, and it was on an elevated position from us.

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<v Speaker 2>I was against throwing the rock. I said, don't throw

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<v Speaker 2>that rock. Let's just back out. I'll wing shots over

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<v Speaker 2>its head, but let's get to the truck. Let's get

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<v Speaker 2>the hell out of here. Now we go a spruce

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<v Speaker 2>chicken hunting at dusk, so it's moving towards darkness, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to freaking be out there. This thing's

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<v Speaker 2>over there. It's doing this number back and forth, and

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<v Speaker 2>then this kind of like a squirrel chatter, but in

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<v Speaker 2>the cadence of a squirrel chatter, but with popping like

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<v Speaker 2>a like that. But it was very fast, very I

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<v Speaker 2>can't even imitate it. It was unreal fast. It's still

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<v Speaker 2>clicking pop sound. And so I tell William, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just slowly, let's start walking. You walk backwards, keep

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<v Speaker 2>your eye on it. I'm gonna guide you, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll switch. I'll turn around, I'll watch it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you guide us. So we keep an eye on the scene.

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<v Speaker 2>I brought up to him. I said, also look around

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<v Speaker 2>when you're not looking directly at when you're the one leading,

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<v Speaker 2>look check our flanks. Make sure there's none moving around us. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>when I speak of these things and how they operate

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<v Speaker 2>and how they seem to move, now this is all speculation.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not an expert on this shit. But one thing

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<v Speaker 2>I've noticed is typically not all the time, but for

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<v Speaker 2>others around, right. So I talked them out of throwing

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<v Speaker 2>this thing's just doing this number, just swam back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth every once in a while, doing that kind of sound.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't like lunch or do any any kind of

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<v Speaker 2>sudden like aggressive stuff per se. Just this mere presence

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<v Speaker 2>was the feeling in the air. It's hard to explain

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<v Speaker 2>when you can sit there and stare at something and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not saying anything to you, but yet you're in

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<v Speaker 2>the presence of something that puts a fear in you

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't shave. You can't sit there and make

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<v Speaker 2>something good of it. I only say these things because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to speak anything on Lower forty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys got generational populations that have been through those areas,

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<v Speaker 2>so far different dynamic as far as overall population and

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<v Speaker 2>potential interaction. Up Here in Alaska, we're so isolated. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a contributing factor to how aggressive they get,

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<v Speaker 2>because they haven't had the outside of the villagers and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that from what I'm told, they snatch us, eat

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<v Speaker 2>us all this stuff. Anyway, let me continue. I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 2>I apologize. I just want people to understand that up

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<v Speaker 2>here in Alaska, it's not roll one, not unique to me,

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<v Speaker 2>and to this creature up here, it doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 2>want anything to do with it, which hey, is probably

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<v Speaker 2>getting shot at all the time, honestly. So we're back

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<v Speaker 2>in the way, William decides I'm going to toss this

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<v Speaker 2>rock down when he gets rid of the rock out

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<v Speaker 2>of his hand, because I had him, Hey, just make

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<v Speaker 2>sure I'm not going to trip over anything. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to keep an eye on it until we get a

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<v Speaker 2>little further away, since I had the gun in my hand. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm walking backwards and I told him check our

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<v Speaker 2>fights and everything, he's looking in the pit. He's looking

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<v Speaker 2>left ring the pit. Right at the bottom of the pit.

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<v Speaker 2>The pit, the walls go up and there's trees up there.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm puny. Look up the hills too. Now, as

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<v Speaker 2>I say look up the hills too, we hear a

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<v Speaker 2>god awful scream coming from back by that damn truck

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<v Speaker 2>where we're going. I didn't know whether to shit or

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<v Speaker 2>go blind, because at this point they usually shake a

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<v Speaker 2>tree scream you leave the area. They stay at a

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<v Speaker 2>certain distance typically, but they let it be known that

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<v Speaker 2>they don't want you around. They'll throw stuff, shake a tree,

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<v Speaker 2>break lambs, that type of stuff. We heard the scream

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<v Speaker 2>and all our our plans went out the window, as

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<v Speaker 2>far as we're going to take terms of lead frog

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<v Speaker 2>and paying attention. Look at it now, no la shit.

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<v Speaker 2>We immediately start just Paul asking towards the truck. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the scream just came from that direction. But for us,

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<v Speaker 2>if we could get to the truck, that means we

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<v Speaker 2>could get out of there. And so William is booking.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen this guy run before. He was running, so

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<v Speaker 2>I was keeping up. And we get up by the

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<v Speaker 2>truck and off in the side, just off to our

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<v Speaker 2>left where that screen came from, because we got the

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<v Speaker 2>iron fence, the two swinging iron gates for the pit,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're on the opposite side of that, and off

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<v Speaker 2>to the left the tree line starts and then it

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<v Speaker 2>goes up a burn that wraps that wall back towards

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<v Speaker 2>the pond where we were just behind us. So about

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<v Speaker 2>halfway up this incline, just in the tree line, I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen it. It was sitting there doing this number, just

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<v Speaker 2>bobbing then looking back and forth just doing this. There

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<v Speaker 2>was something in the looking its eye. It didn't come

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<v Speaker 2>at us, but the way it was looking it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just like looking at as curious just looking at our form.

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<v Speaker 2>It was looking me in my eyes. As soon as

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it. It looked directly at me. There was

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<v Speaker 2>nothing there as far as it was obviously intelligent. But

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean by nothing there is it looked like

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<v Speaker 2>dead black eyes just staring a hole through me. Knowing

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<v Speaker 2>it was a little further away and not immediately by

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<v Speaker 2>the truck. All this happened in a brief second as

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<v Speaker 2>we're running along and I glanced up and then I

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<v Speaker 2>made eye contact and I was doing a thing or

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<v Speaker 2>whatever doing this number. All this happened relatively quickly because

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<v Speaker 2>we ran slid under the gate, jumked in the truck,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm trying to look up the hill at the

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<v Speaker 2>one I deem it is more of a threat. It's closer.

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<v Speaker 2>This type of thing, the one that was at the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the pit that he saw over my shoulder,

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<v Speaker 2>it was actually in the middle of the pit for

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<v Speaker 2>more sasquatch out to see. We'll be right back after

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<v Speaker 2>these messages, and I had this Pouji film camera, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm gonna get a picture of that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting it ready to go. As I'm getting ready, at

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<v Speaker 2>the windshields all filthy. It's dolling him. This is back

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<v Speaker 2>before the road was paved all the way out to

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<v Speaker 2>the lakes, so there's a lot of dust and grime

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff. As I was going to hop out to

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<v Speaker 2>take a picture of this, saying out in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of the pit. We had a camera, why not, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting ready to jump out the door to at least

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<v Speaker 2>open it up and get outside to get a clear

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<v Speaker 2>picture of it without the filthy windshield. I went to

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<v Speaker 2>grab the doorknob and William grabbed my leg and shook it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I looked over at him three feet roughly from

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<v Speaker 2>his door. I couldn't even see it all the way,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was another one standing next to the truck

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<v Speaker 2>on his side, so we just left. He backed out

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<v Speaker 2>of there. We almost got stuck backing out because we

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<v Speaker 2>flew across like rode into the opposite ditch and hand

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<v Speaker 2>to ride the ditch until he could make it up

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<v Speaker 2>back up onto the road. That was creepy from the

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<v Speaker 2>standpoint of They basically had us encircled now there's an

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<v Speaker 2>argument to be made, if they really wanted to hurt us,

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<v Speaker 2>we wouldn't have made it out of the pit. And

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<v Speaker 2>fair enough, well, what was the point of them showing themselves?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the point of the eye contact. There's so

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<v Speaker 2>many unknowns with this, That's why it bothers me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to coax my fellow First Nations. Come forward,

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<v Speaker 2>share what you've seen, Let's get some data together, Let's

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<v Speaker 2>see if there's something we can figure out about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because there's so many unknowns, it's all speculation. I can

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<v Speaker 2>assume what they wanted. I can assume it was bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I can assume a lot of things. Grant you, I'm biased,

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<v Speaker 2>so I immediately swing to it was nefarious. It was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to size us up to get us. But that's me,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's not fair to the situation. It's just how

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<v Speaker 2>I felt inside with how this stuff was transpiring. And

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<v Speaker 2>in many of the cases, like when we were attacked

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<v Speaker 2>on the nuw Yakuk, I've heard several people say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't hurt you, they could have got you. You

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<v Speaker 2>weren't hurt. I say bullshit. I no longer have a

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<v Speaker 2>relationship with those family members. They were a large part

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<v Speaker 2>of my life up to that point. I missed them

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<v Speaker 2>and I love them. That whole thing separated us because

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk about it and they didn't. It

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<v Speaker 2>does a lot of damage to keep these kind of

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<v Speaker 2>things in. I know, it's really easy for people to

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<v Speaker 2>just fluff at all their just stories and blah blah blah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand this could be skeptical, but everyone wants to

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<v Speaker 2>see one until they do, and then when they do,

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<v Speaker 2>they want nothing else to do. Was going back out

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<v Speaker 2>in the woods. Typically, none of this crap is unique

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<v Speaker 2>to me. There are so many of us from the

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<v Speaker 2>remote villages that have had encounters that to an outside

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<v Speaker 2>person would seem Jesus outland as shit. You got these

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<v Speaker 2>guys claiming all this stuff is going on, but yet

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<v Speaker 2>there's no news reports of this and that. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>there's a reason why the ridicule. No one wants to

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<v Speaker 2>be looked at as, oh, that's that guy that goes

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<v Speaker 2>and talks to Harry Man. Because even though ninety eight

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the villagers know the hairy Man's real, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>two percent will acknowledge it. That's all socially pressed because

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<v Speaker 2>they feel they're going to be mocked or ridiculed. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>forty six now, I'm over given that shit what anyone thinks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to tell what I know, share what

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<v Speaker 2>I've experienced, and hopefully encourage others to come forth with

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<v Speaker 2>what they have. You can remain anonymous, you come on

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<v Speaker 2>a camera however you want to do it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>want the Alaskan based stuff to be shared. All these

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<v Speaker 2>outside entities bringing this Hollywood garbage hype to every aspect

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<v Speaker 2>of Alaska. They use just enough truth that's compelling to

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<v Speaker 2>get people to come back for the next episode, promising

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<v Speaker 2>meat and potatoes, and you don't even end up with

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<v Speaker 2>potato skins. At the end of the series, We'll see

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<v Speaker 2>how it goes. I wanted to share with you something

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<v Speaker 2>that was shared with me around the campfire back in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and five at hunting camp. Now, this particular

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<v Speaker 2>incident happened off the Quejack River. An elder that shared

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<v Speaker 2>this with me, who since passed, was very adamant in

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<v Speaker 2>telling us younger guys, don't go into the woods alone,

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<v Speaker 2>don't whistle. I'll explain why he gave us that advice.

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<v Speaker 2>So this was back in oh sixty seven, sixty eight

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere in that general area, if I remember correctly. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>they were doing prospecting bear hunt. Basically, they were out

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<v Speaker 2>and about is what it boils down to. He was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to feed us a line of whatever we know

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<v Speaker 2>the business. He was upriver up to Queijack, which connects

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<v Speaker 2>Lake Illam, the largest lake in the state, to Bristol Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>That lake is so big, and with it being connected

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<v Speaker 2>to the Queenjack, you can get a resident harbor seal population,

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<v Speaker 2>Sea lions, belugas go up in. They're chasing salmon. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an awesome place, just vast Alaska's so big. So they're

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<v Speaker 2>on the west side of the Queenjack. I forget the

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<v Speaker 2>name of the creek offhand. It was a native named creek,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of Queues, more consonants than vowels,

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<v Speaker 2>will put it that way. So they're about twelve miles

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<v Speaker 2>he said from the Queen Jack west. He didn't specify

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<v Speaker 2>exactly how far below Iliono they were, but he said

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<v Speaker 2>it was sparsely wooded. So they were back in there

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<v Speaker 2>having a good time doing what Indians do out in

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<v Speaker 2>the woods. They had found a trail and this particular

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<v Speaker 2>trail was well worn, and they're like, this almost looks

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<v Speaker 2>like someone's path to get water because of where there

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<v Speaker 2>was a natural spring not too far away from where

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<v Speaker 2>this path ended. So they decided they wanted to explore it.

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<v Speaker 2>So they bring their firearms and they just dropping along,

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<v Speaker 2>not necessarily looking for any sign in particular, just enjoying

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<v Speaker 2>a nice beautiful day. Now, this path is just windy

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<v Speaker 2>through berry patches, grub, the tundra and scrub brush and

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<v Speaker 2>So just as they were coming around a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>these islands of black spruce and the way the trail cut,

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<v Speaker 2>they noticed something moved and it was almost like it

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<v Speaker 2>was just out of sight because the trees are over here,

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<v Speaker 2>and as they're coming around, this thing was moving around too.

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<v Speaker 2>So they were just catching glimpses of something dark moving

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<v Speaker 2>on the trail ahead of them, and it was only

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five forty yards in front of them. So they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>So they start calling out. They thought it was someone

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<v Speaker 2>and this was their path, and so they were hey

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<v Speaker 2>over here. No response, So they continue around this little

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<v Speaker 2>escurve in the trail, and once they get up to

416
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<v Speaker 2>where they should be able to see this person, because

417
00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:02.559
<v Speaker 2>where or the vantage point they had. Once they came

418
00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:04.839
<v Speaker 2>around the bind, it was open except for the trees

419
00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:07.920
<v Speaker 2>immediately to their right. And these weren't very big ones.

420
00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:11.960
<v Speaker 2>They're black spruce and whatnot. It was basically scrub timber.

421
00:22:12.160 --> 00:22:14.400
<v Speaker 2>He said. The tallest tree must have been about fifteen

422
00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.720
<v Speaker 2>feet tall. So they were looking around and this island

423
00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:20.440
<v Speaker 2>of trees wasn't too dense, and so they're like, he

424
00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:22.599
<v Speaker 2>must be hiding. He's got to be hiding, because the

425
00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:25.400
<v Speaker 2>trail continued on in the open tundrad before it reached

426
00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:29.759
<v Speaker 2>a bigger timber a little further away. So they decided

427
00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:31.599
<v Speaker 2>they split up a little bit. There was three people

428
00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:34.000
<v Speaker 2>in the group. They decided to take a look. Hey,

429
00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:36.079
<v Speaker 2>you look over here, I'll look over this ridge here,

430
00:22:36.119 --> 00:22:39.319
<v Speaker 2>and this elder he goes up on the ridge to

431
00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:42.319
<v Speaker 2>look to see because they knew the trail was wrapping

432
00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:44.440
<v Speaker 2>around they could see it wrap around this little rise.

433
00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:46.079
<v Speaker 2>So he went up on top of the rise to

434
00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:48.680
<v Speaker 2>see what was on the other side. On the other

435
00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:52.000
<v Speaker 2>side was huge beaver pond and a small creek that

436
00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:55.799
<v Speaker 2>kind of wound back into the bigger timber. Now as

437
00:22:55.839 --> 00:22:59.240
<v Speaker 2>he's up there, he hears screaming behind him, coming from

438
00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:02.119
<v Speaker 2>just where they were standing moments ago, next to the

439
00:23:02.160 --> 00:23:06.079
<v Speaker 2>small stand of the black spruce and whatnot. His hunting

440
00:23:06.079 --> 00:23:09.440
<v Speaker 2>partner that was with them was on the ground, laying

441
00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:12.000
<v Speaker 2>with his on his back, putting his hands up sid

442
00:23:12.119 --> 00:23:15.039
<v Speaker 2>no screaming out. The other guy that was with them

443
00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:19.160
<v Speaker 2>wasn't that far away, starts firing into the trees, basically

444
00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:21.480
<v Speaker 2>shooting right over there buddy, and his buddy was on

445
00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:24.960
<v Speaker 2>the ground. He wasn't moving, but this guy's popping shots

446
00:23:24.960 --> 00:23:27.839
<v Speaker 2>and he knows they're not shooting for nothing, so immediately

447
00:23:27.839 --> 00:23:30.960
<v Speaker 2>he turns around. He's blessing a football field away and

448
00:23:31.039 --> 00:23:33.200
<v Speaker 2>he's running down and he's looking to see what they're

449
00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:36.880
<v Speaker 2>shooting at, and he notices trees just starting to Then

450
00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:39.319
<v Speaker 2>they hear a loud scream. The guy that was on

451
00:23:39.359 --> 00:23:43.519
<v Speaker 2>the ground starts firing from a laid back position, shooting

452
00:23:43.519 --> 00:23:46.119
<v Speaker 2>into the trees, and all of a sudden, the trees

453
00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:49.279
<v Speaker 2>just explode, and this huge hairy man just takes off

454
00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:52.680
<v Speaker 2>running the direction of the beaver pond. The elder takes

455
00:23:52.720 --> 00:23:55.839
<v Speaker 2>aim Boom boom, takes a few shots. They don't think

456
00:23:55.880 --> 00:23:58.559
<v Speaker 2>they hit it because it was gone. It was moving.

457
00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:01.640
<v Speaker 2>So he immediately he runs right back up that rise,

458
00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:04.480
<v Speaker 2>and when he gets there, this thing jumped in the

459
00:24:04.519 --> 00:24:10.640
<v Speaker 2>beaver pond and disappeared. Cobluche gone. So immediately they're all

460
00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:14.519
<v Speaker 2>posted up on this rise. They're all watching this rise.

461
00:24:14.960 --> 00:24:17.640
<v Speaker 2>They got their guns trained. They're just looking for air bubbles.

462
00:24:17.920 --> 00:24:20.359
<v Speaker 2>They wanted to kill it. I can't explain why I

463
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:24.119
<v Speaker 2>didn't ask. I just listened. So they're watching the pond

464
00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:27.319
<v Speaker 2>and it's getting on in the dark, and they realized,

465
00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:29.039
<v Speaker 2>we need to set up camp. We don't even know

466
00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:31.599
<v Speaker 2>where this thing is. It hasn't come out of the water.

467
00:24:32.519 --> 00:24:35.039
<v Speaker 2>It probably drowned itself. Maybe we hid it in along

468
00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:37.400
<v Speaker 2>and then it went under, and maybe it'll be floating

469
00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:40.119
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow morning. So they go back down near the stand

470
00:24:40.160 --> 00:24:42.200
<v Speaker 2>of trees where they were just firing on this thing

471
00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:44.640
<v Speaker 2>at and they decided that's the place they want to

472
00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:47.200
<v Speaker 2>stay because there's a couple already down spruce trees they

473
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:50.240
<v Speaker 2>could use for firewood, and they would just moneyuk right

474
00:24:50.279 --> 00:24:53.720
<v Speaker 2>there and go to sleep by the fire and wait

475
00:24:53.759 --> 00:24:56.640
<v Speaker 2>for the morning to come. So as they're walking down

476
00:24:56.799 --> 00:25:00.680
<v Speaker 2>now they'd been watching this pond from this rise directly

477
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:03.799
<v Speaker 2>behind him about i'd say seventy yards is roughly where

478
00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:05.880
<v Speaker 2>he said the trail was. And it's just a larger

479
00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:08.160
<v Speaker 2>island of the black spruce and all that kind of stuff,

480
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:10.440
<v Speaker 2>and one island, I mean, they're sticking up out of

481
00:25:10.480 --> 00:25:14.319
<v Speaker 2>the tundra. They're a little isolated island of small black

482
00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:18.559
<v Speaker 2>spruce and various other little scrubrush. So they get set up,

483
00:25:19.039 --> 00:25:21.799
<v Speaker 2>they get a fire going. Now it had only been

484
00:25:22.119 --> 00:25:25.039
<v Speaker 2>a half hour, and they decide to go back up

485
00:25:25.079 --> 00:25:27.759
<v Speaker 2>and look. And now it's getting it's not dark yet,

486
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:31.480
<v Speaker 2>but it's getting on into dark. He decided, I'll go

487
00:25:31.519 --> 00:25:34.519
<v Speaker 2>along and be quiet. You guys wait right here. He

488
00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:36.799
<v Speaker 2>goes up on the rise, and as he gets onto

489
00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the rise and kind of peeks over to see if

490
00:25:39.000 --> 00:25:41.920
<v Speaker 2>there's any movement, he sees it right next to the

491
00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:44.240
<v Speaker 2>beaver pond, looking right at him, almost like he was

492
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:47.319
<v Speaker 2>just waiting. The harry man was sitting there waiting and

493
00:25:47.400 --> 00:25:49.400
<v Speaker 2>knew he was going to be peeking right there, because

494
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:51.119
<v Speaker 2>he said, as soon as he comes over the rise,

495
00:25:51.279 --> 00:25:55.519
<v Speaker 2>immediate eye contact. So as he's looking at it, he's

496
00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:58.039
<v Speaker 2>going to put a shot right between its eyes. His

497
00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:00.880
<v Speaker 2>word's not mine, so he raises his rifle and it

498
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:05.359
<v Speaker 2>dives back into the beaver pond. Now he figures, okay,

499
00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:08.599
<v Speaker 2>it's holding its breath and this is the game is

500
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:11.839
<v Speaker 2>going to play, So I'm gonna retreat back to camp.

501
00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:15.000
<v Speaker 2>We'll deal with it in better light, and he does.

502
00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.039
<v Speaker 2>He heads back to camp. Now, before he even gets

503
00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:21.559
<v Speaker 2>to camp, gunshots start going off again into the same

504
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:24.000
<v Speaker 2>standard trees they were literally right next to at this

505
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 2>point camping out. The same hairy man was in the trees.

506
00:26:29.680 --> 00:26:32.079
<v Speaker 2>So there had to been some kind of underground water

507
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.640
<v Speaker 2>source for this sinc to jump into the beaver pond

508
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:39.440
<v Speaker 2>and moments later came out of somewhere behind this stand

509
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:42.680
<v Speaker 2>of trees in another part of the marshy tundra and

510
00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:46.480
<v Speaker 2>is now in the trees. His hunting partners saw it

511
00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:49.119
<v Speaker 2>soaking wet and water falling off of it when it

512
00:26:49.200 --> 00:26:52.759
<v Speaker 2>was making a ruckus before they started shooting again. Can

513
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>you imagine you see something jumping a beaver pond and

514
00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:59.039
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden, a moment later, it's behind

515
00:26:59.119 --> 00:27:02.319
<v Speaker 2>you almost one hundred yards and your buddies are firing

516
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:04.359
<v Speaker 2>on it. He could only deduce that there was some

517
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:08.240
<v Speaker 2>underground tunnel or water connecting way, which is very viable.

518
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Anyone's been on the marshy tundra in Alaska, Nos, it's

519
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:17.240
<v Speaker 2>like a vegetative waterbed, so it's totally plausible. Now he's

520
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:20.599
<v Speaker 2>literally running and tripping and falling over these tundras. They

521
00:27:20.599 --> 00:27:23.039
<v Speaker 2>got these little mounds that kind of kick up, these

522
00:27:23.079 --> 00:27:26.480
<v Speaker 2>little mounds of turf, of mossy, very little berry shrubs

523
00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:29.279
<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. So he's making his way and

524
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:31.640
<v Speaker 2>he's kind of panic stricken because this thing just jumped

525
00:27:31.720 --> 00:27:34.640
<v Speaker 2>in the pond and now his hunting partners are firing

526
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:37.400
<v Speaker 2>on it, and this thing is just screaming up and

527
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:40.039
<v Speaker 2>just making all sorts of rap. It would be unnerving,

528
00:27:40.240 --> 00:27:42.920
<v Speaker 2>but these are some salty dogs. They didn't stop firing.

529
00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:44.920
<v Speaker 2>One of them did because he ran out of ammo,

530
00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and this elder and the other guy were shooting the

531
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 2>same weapons, so they still had plenty of ammo. And

532
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:53.079
<v Speaker 2>as soon as he got to a spot where he

533
00:27:53.119 --> 00:27:56.279
<v Speaker 2>saw a movement, he started firing into the bush. Now

534
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:58.680
<v Speaker 2>it's getting on in the dark, and as soon as

535
00:27:58.720 --> 00:28:01.480
<v Speaker 2>he started pitching in with the firing on this thing,

536
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:04.680
<v Speaker 2>it went silent. They didn't see it move anymore. It

537
00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:08.079
<v Speaker 2>just went silent, so they thought, oh, okay, we killed it.

538
00:28:08.960 --> 00:28:10.799
<v Speaker 2>They didn't have a good enough light source to go

539
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.920
<v Speaker 2>in to the there's a little island of trees to

540
00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:16.200
<v Speaker 2>fetch it and drag it out. So they figured, let's

541
00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:19.559
<v Speaker 2>move a little further away from the trees and reset

542
00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.200
<v Speaker 2>up camp and set a new fire over here. So

543
00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:26.400
<v Speaker 2>they do that, and gosh, the brass ones to have

544
00:28:26.519 --> 00:28:29.519
<v Speaker 2>this happen and go, okay, we'll wait. We'll just move

545
00:28:29.559 --> 00:28:32.359
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of ways away. And so they decided

546
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 2>that they're going to take turns keeping an eye on

547
00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:38.839
<v Speaker 2>this particular area because they know that's the last place

548
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:41.359
<v Speaker 2>they've seen it. And they're all set up, and this

549
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:44.480
<v Speaker 2>particular elder takes first watch the whole time they got

550
00:28:44.480 --> 00:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>tunnel vision on this island of trees. Periodically, of course,

551
00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:49.839
<v Speaker 2>he would check his six and look around because they're

552
00:28:49.920 --> 00:28:52.000
<v Speaker 2>in a more open part of the tundra, so they're

553
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.200
<v Speaker 2>able to easily see around three hundred and sixty degrees. However,

554
00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:59.119
<v Speaker 2>behind them is that rise that goes up, and on

555
00:28:59.160 --> 00:29:01.519
<v Speaker 2>the back side of that a good fifty yards is

556
00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:05.240
<v Speaker 2>the big old beaver pond. So he's cognizant of that.

557
00:29:05.319 --> 00:29:09.000
<v Speaker 2>He's really he knows that the potential of it going

558
00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:12.400
<v Speaker 2>back in behind the tree line and wherever marsh it

559
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:14.279
<v Speaker 2>came out of, and then going back to the beaver

560
00:29:14.359 --> 00:29:16.920
<v Speaker 2>pond and coming out over there is very high. But

561
00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:19.920
<v Speaker 2>he was confident this thing was dead because all the

562
00:29:20.000 --> 00:29:24.000
<v Speaker 2>sound and everything stopped like it had just died. His

563
00:29:24.079 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>word's not mine. So he's doing his thing. He's keeping

564
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:30.079
<v Speaker 2>an eye out. He does his first watch, no problem.

565
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 2>He wakes up the other guy. Now Guy number three

566
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>has no more AMMO for his rifle. It's miles and

567
00:29:36.200 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 2>miles back to where they parked the skiff on the

568
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:41.319
<v Speaker 2>river bank of the Queen Jack, so he's not going

569
00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:44.880
<v Speaker 2>to be of any help with that rifle. So him

570
00:29:44.920 --> 00:29:47.440
<v Speaker 2>and the other guy had made plans. I'll hold the gun.

571
00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:50.480
<v Speaker 2>They had it worked out basically, so I'm not going

572
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:52.759
<v Speaker 2>to go into the finer details. It just bogs it down.

573
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Second guy takes his watch. He's had to have been

574
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>a couple hours into it, and stay tuned for more.

575
00:29:59.759 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Sa squatch out to see will be right back after

576
00:30:02.039 --> 00:30:10.039
<v Speaker 2>these messages. Now, this elder said that he heard a

577
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:15.519
<v Speaker 2>very sorrowful, moaning, growling kind of sound. He imitated it,

578
00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:17.960
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not even gonna try it, So just envision

579
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.279
<v Speaker 2>a moaning, growling, screechy type sound. And it wasn't coming

580
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.759
<v Speaker 2>from the beaver pond direction or this other direction where

581
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:29.200
<v Speaker 2>the stand of trees were. It was coming from pretty

582
00:30:29.279 --> 00:30:31.799
<v Speaker 2>damn far away. He didn't want to guestimate, but he

583
00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.319
<v Speaker 2>said it had been at least a couple miles away

584
00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:36.039
<v Speaker 2>that they heard it, and it was coming from the

585
00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:40.519
<v Speaker 2>bigger timber further to the west. Now, anyone who's been

586
00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>out on Alaska tundra, especially down south central, they know

587
00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about. There's the Muskeg, which is swampy,

588
00:30:47.319 --> 00:30:50.200
<v Speaker 2>marshy tundra, and then you got these stands of black

589
00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.279
<v Speaker 2>spruce and whatnot, and they're just dotted all over, especially

590
00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:55.240
<v Speaker 2>in certain areas. It's just all over the place. So

591
00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.200
<v Speaker 2>that's the kind of train it is. And there's a

592
00:30:58.200 --> 00:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>couple of these little islands between that big timber further

593
00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 2>to the west and where they are with that moaning,

594
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 2>grounding sound. He had got a couple hours sleep, so

595
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:09.599
<v Speaker 2>he was a little more rejuvenated, so he joined his

596
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 2>hunting partner and keeping an eye out because now there's

597
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.680
<v Speaker 2>been activity, there's a sound, and they want to be

598
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>sure that they're on top of it. They just shot

599
00:31:17.720 --> 00:31:20.160
<v Speaker 2>at this thing. They're thinking there's some get back coming.

600
00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 2>There's another hairy man coming. There definitely was. As they're

601
00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>discussing what they're going to do, because they're assuming this

602
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>thing is dead in the trees, and they're talking about

603
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>how they're going to get it out of the trees.

604
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:34.119
<v Speaker 2>So they decide, they're talking a monkey each other, that

605
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:35.839
<v Speaker 2>we're going to cut it up into pieces and we'll

606
00:31:35.880 --> 00:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>drag it back to the skiff piece by piece, because

607
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.640
<v Speaker 2>they knew it was big. And so as they're discussing this,

608
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:47.920
<v Speaker 2>they hear that moaning growling sound again, this time way closer, like,

609
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:50.559
<v Speaker 2>way closer, and it should be in a spot where

610
00:31:50.599 --> 00:31:53.640
<v Speaker 2>they could see it. And so they're training their eyes

611
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:56.079
<v Speaker 2>and it is pretty dark, and they got the fire

612
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:57.880
<v Speaker 2>going behind them because they don't want to look at

613
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the fire directly and have it ruined their night visions.

614
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.359
<v Speaker 2>So they have the fire to their back and they're

615
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:06.160
<v Speaker 2>looking out into the darkness and being smart about it. Now,

616
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.599
<v Speaker 2>as he explained it, he had some snuff, the kind

617
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:11.799
<v Speaker 2>of you snort or something. Forget the name of it.

618
00:32:11.839 --> 00:32:15.960
<v Speaker 2>There's a Yupik name but it's basically tame. It's made

619
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.920
<v Speaker 2>from a fungus that grows on birch. Anyway, so they

620
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:22.079
<v Speaker 2>had that and they were sharing some of it, and

621
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:25.000
<v Speaker 2>they weren't worried, so they started discussing some of their

622
00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 2>old trips and stuff. They were just chopping it up

623
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:30.319
<v Speaker 2>a couple buddies. Then they hear that same scream at

624
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.240
<v Speaker 2>the same distance, and this time it caught their attention

625
00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:36.359
<v Speaker 2>because now they see the figure. And he said, it

626
00:32:36.440 --> 00:32:39.640
<v Speaker 2>must have been about four hundred yards away, and this

627
00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:43.720
<v Speaker 2>thing was huge, very big. It was on fairly dark,

628
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.599
<v Speaker 2>but this thing was darker than the dark, so its

629
00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 2>movement stood out and they noticed it was running and

630
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:51.880
<v Speaker 2>then it would stop, and then it would run back

631
00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.759
<v Speaker 2>and then once it got back to the same side.

632
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.480
<v Speaker 2>Let me preface this. There was a small tree island,

633
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:00.920
<v Speaker 2>one of these little tree islands, and the that it

634
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:05.599
<v Speaker 2>was running back and forth behind it looked like but

635
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:08.440
<v Speaker 2>what was happening in reality is it would run back

636
00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.119
<v Speaker 2>over here and then once it got back to the

637
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:13.559
<v Speaker 2>other side, it would scream. But little did they know,

638
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:18.160
<v Speaker 2>they're focused on that thing behind them on the trail

639
00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Speaker 2>that s curved, little trail that they came around one

640
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:26.079
<v Speaker 2>of those smaller islands of trees. They hear a snaps,

641
00:33:26.119 --> 00:33:28.039
<v Speaker 2>their attention off with the scream, and then they look

642
00:33:28.079 --> 00:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>over that direction. Now it's on in the dark, so

643
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.400
<v Speaker 2>they can't really make anything out. Now their trail back

644
00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 2>to the skiff is blocked something big screaming over there,

645
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:40.160
<v Speaker 2>and they're assuming something's dead right over there. So they

646
00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:42.079
<v Speaker 2>know there's trouble coming and they don't know what to

647
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:44.400
<v Speaker 2>do about it at this point because they have nowhere

648
00:33:44.480 --> 00:33:48.720
<v Speaker 2>to go. Now. The cracking sound and whatnot was one

649
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:52.559
<v Speaker 2>of these things breaking a tree, and they kept hearing

650
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.240
<v Speaker 2>this kind of sound like something flailing through the air,

651
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:58.480
<v Speaker 2>and it was landing in the trees in front of them.

652
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:02.000
<v Speaker 2>So the one their back trail on that little s

653
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:07.200
<v Speaker 2>curve of the trail is chucking pieces of timber into

654
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the other stand of trees where they had been firing

655
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 2>on the one. Now they're being heavily distracted here. There's

656
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:17.880
<v Speaker 2>grunts and noises coming, there's stuff flying, and periodically the

657
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:20.360
<v Speaker 2>elder that shared this with me is looking back over

658
00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:22.840
<v Speaker 2>in the direction of the big dark when they saw

659
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:26.639
<v Speaker 2>screaming and running back and forth as a distraction. Now

660
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:29.719
<v Speaker 2>when he looks back, he doesn't see anything. And then

661
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:32.559
<v Speaker 2>they hear that screaming moan sound again, and this time

662
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:34.920
<v Speaker 2>it sounds like it's right up next to that trees

663
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.559
<v Speaker 2>in front of them, and so they're trying to figure

664
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:41.360
<v Speaker 2>out what the hell as that's going on. Again, they

665
00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:45.239
<v Speaker 2>hear that, and this tree was thrown land went right

666
00:34:45.280 --> 00:34:47.280
<v Speaker 2>over their heads and landed right behind them in the

667
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 2>direction of that beaver pond and the rise that was

668
00:34:50.400 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>behind them. And immediately they're shook. They're like, oh, this

669
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:57.719
<v Speaker 2>changes things. Now they're throwing stuff at us. Now. Unbeknownst

670
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>to them, this is twenty twenty high on his part.

671
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 2>They were distracting them because they were going to get

672
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:07.559
<v Speaker 2>their injured buddy out of the trees. So when they

673
00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:11.039
<v Speaker 2>were distracted the big one that was making the moaning

674
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 2>groaning that initially distracted them in the distance, they turned

675
00:35:15.280 --> 00:35:19.039
<v Speaker 2>around to see it dragging the injured buddy back in

676
00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 2>the direction of the big timber to the west. Immediately

677
00:35:23.039 --> 00:35:27.639
<v Speaker 2>they opened fire. They just start shooting. They emptied both rifles,

678
00:35:27.800 --> 00:35:31.360
<v Speaker 2>and at that point when they first started shooting, the

679
00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:34.679
<v Speaker 2>bigger one was helping the smaller, more injured one. They

680
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:38.280
<v Speaker 2>disappeared into the darkness out of view. So immediately they're

681
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:41.199
<v Speaker 2>reloading looking in the direction that the thing was throwing

682
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:44.440
<v Speaker 2>sticks from. They couldn't see anything. It was pitch black.

683
00:35:44.519 --> 00:35:48.199
<v Speaker 2>But they started hearing this huff and grunting coming directly

684
00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:51.800
<v Speaker 2>towards them up the trail. Now, remember this is an

685
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.639
<v Speaker 2>S curve trailer and it's dark, so they could hear it.

686
00:35:54.719 --> 00:35:58.039
<v Speaker 2>And then when the S curve got behind the patch

687
00:35:58.039 --> 00:36:01.199
<v Speaker 2>of trees, it muffled the sound. And this thing came

688
00:36:01.239 --> 00:36:03.880
<v Speaker 2>from that hidden point on the S curved trail up

689
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:06.360
<v Speaker 2>into the trees where they had fired on the hairy

690
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 2>man just earlier. Now, when it got into that standard trees,

691
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:13.280
<v Speaker 2>the pieces of wood it was throwing over into there.

692
00:36:13.719 --> 00:36:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Who knows why, no idea why it was throwing these

693
00:36:16.840 --> 00:36:19.840
<v Speaker 2>pieces of wood into the stand of trees. However, once

694
00:36:19.880 --> 00:36:22.920
<v Speaker 2>it got into that position, they were shooting at sounds

695
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 2>periodically of the movement. This thing started throwing these pieces

696
00:36:27.239 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 2>of wood that it threw from the one little stand

697
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:34.280
<v Speaker 2>of trees to the other one directly at them, very accurately.

698
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:36.880
<v Speaker 2>One of the pieces hit his hunting partner in the

699
00:36:36.880 --> 00:36:40.159
<v Speaker 2>shoulder and knocked him back almost into the fire. The

700
00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:42.880
<v Speaker 2>other buddy was woken up by this. Of course, he

701
00:36:43.000 --> 00:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>has no AMMO for his rifle, so all he can

702
00:36:46.039 --> 00:36:49.800
<v Speaker 2>do is start popping shots with his pistol. Again, it

703
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:53.119
<v Speaker 2>was only a twenty two pistol, just for small game.

704
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>That's very common. A lot of people have a small

705
00:36:55.400 --> 00:36:59.400
<v Speaker 2>game rifle always with them, especially the natives, a rouse

706
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:03.400
<v Speaker 2>and rab and whatever. So he's ready with his old

707
00:37:03.400 --> 00:37:07.039
<v Speaker 2>pistol and they're all watching the stand of trees. As

708
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.360
<v Speaker 2>these trees are coming in at them, they split up

709
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:12.519
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. They wanted to be moving targets. They

710
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:16.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't want to stand still. Now, when he's expressing this

711
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:18.800
<v Speaker 2>to me, this is the only point of the story

712
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:23.719
<v Speaker 2>where he said he really felt fearful. The rest of

713
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.920
<v Speaker 2>it was just let's deal with this. And at this

714
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:30.199
<v Speaker 2>point it got fearful for him because as they were

715
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:34.840
<v Speaker 2>dodging these incoming pieces of broken tree, it was like

716
00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.800
<v Speaker 2>hitting the fire to put the fire out, That's what

717
00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:39.960
<v Speaker 2>he assumed. So what they did was they were trying

718
00:37:39.960 --> 00:37:43.039
<v Speaker 2>to make a torch real quick because they realized we

719
00:37:43.119 --> 00:37:45.719
<v Speaker 2>got to go. We'll just make a torch out of

720
00:37:45.719 --> 00:37:48.239
<v Speaker 2>this and we'll make a go for the boat. Dark

721
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:51.119
<v Speaker 2>or not, we'll have a torch. They had no flashlights

722
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:55.079
<v Speaker 2>with them because typically they weren't doing anything at night. Now,

723
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.000
<v Speaker 2>as they're fashioning this torch out of a torn sleeve

724
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:00.920
<v Speaker 2>off of one of their flannel shirts, they dipped it

725
00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 2>in some of the whiskey they had. Did they dipped

726
00:38:04.840 --> 00:38:07.239
<v Speaker 2>it in some of the whiskey get it lit. But

727
00:38:07.280 --> 00:38:11.119
<v Speaker 2>once they got it lit, there's still smaller pieces of

728
00:38:11.159 --> 00:38:14.039
<v Speaker 2>this debris flying in at them periodically. It's not a

729
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>constant bombard minutes, every so often their piece coming and

730
00:38:17.000 --> 00:38:21.639
<v Speaker 2>noise being made, so again they're distracted. Now, just as

731
00:38:21.679 --> 00:38:25.159
<v Speaker 2>they get done lighting up this torch and turning around

732
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.199
<v Speaker 2>to decide how they're going to cut down and get

733
00:38:28.239 --> 00:38:30.639
<v Speaker 2>back onto that trail and follow it out to their skiff,

734
00:38:31.400 --> 00:38:35.119
<v Speaker 2>they turn around and the light from their torch reveals

735
00:38:35.599 --> 00:38:39.320
<v Speaker 2>dancing fire in some black eyes about fifteen feet away.

736
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:42.679
<v Speaker 2>Twenty feet away. One came up from behind as they

737
00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:47.440
<v Speaker 2>were distracted, and it was basically just right over there. Thankfully,

738
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:49.679
<v Speaker 2>the trail they had to go to was off to

739
00:38:49.760 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>their left from the direction they were standing, towards the

740
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:54.760
<v Speaker 2>rise and the beaver pond they were at, so they

741
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:58.679
<v Speaker 2>turn the noise had subsided once they saw the one

742
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.119
<v Speaker 2>in front of them would was behind them, but now

743
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:03.800
<v Speaker 2>in front of them. The noise behind them had subsided

744
00:39:03.840 --> 00:39:06.000
<v Speaker 2>and they heard it run off in the direction of

745
00:39:06.039 --> 00:39:10.519
<v Speaker 2>the big timber. So now they're like, okay, let's go.

746
00:39:11.039 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 2>And as they're backing down to the little s curve trail,

747
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:17.960
<v Speaker 2>this thing would stay that same distance. Now they got

748
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:21.239
<v Speaker 2>this torch going. It's not very bright, and they're back

749
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.679
<v Speaker 2>walking with this torch out in front while ones keeping

750
00:39:24.679 --> 00:39:26.360
<v Speaker 2>a gun trained on it. They didn't want to shoot

751
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:29.280
<v Speaker 2>them anymore. They realized they didn't want to do that.

752
00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:32.559
<v Speaker 2>They wanted to go, and so they got past the

753
00:39:32.679 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 2>escurve part. The whole time, this thing's twenty twenty five

754
00:39:35.159 --> 00:39:40.320
<v Speaker 2>feet away, not making a sound. Everything around was dead quiet,

755
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:44.000
<v Speaker 2>not making a sound, just staring at them, every once

756
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:45.559
<v Speaker 2>in a while, moving its head a little bit, but

757
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.440
<v Speaker 2>other than that, it was just They would move and

758
00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:51.400
<v Speaker 2>it would just move forward and stop. They would keep moving,

759
00:39:51.760 --> 00:39:54.199
<v Speaker 2>and once it would start moving, they would stop, getting

760
00:39:54.199 --> 00:39:57.519
<v Speaker 2>ready for attack. But that wasn't the case. This thing

761
00:39:57.599 --> 00:40:01.760
<v Speaker 2>basically escorted them but three minles doing this exact same thing,

762
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:05.800
<v Speaker 2>and then finally screamed at him, kicked him around on

763
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 2>the ground and grabbed tufts of earth and whatnot, and

764
00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:10.360
<v Speaker 2>was just throwing it up in the air wild just

765
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:13.880
<v Speaker 2>making a weird display, and then turned around and just

766
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:18.760
<v Speaker 2>disappeared into the darkness, running away from them. Oh goodness, gracious.

767
00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I've been in some Harry encounters, but certain ones like

768
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.960
<v Speaker 2>these kind of experiences. They have this real There's many

769
00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:29.039
<v Speaker 2>ways you could look at it. Were they initially curious?

770
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:33.239
<v Speaker 2>Did we make mistakes shooting it? Was it an organized thing?

771
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:37.039
<v Speaker 2>They didn't know. It's all speculation, but it bothered him,

772
00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.480
<v Speaker 2>probably till his dying day. But again, he shared this

773
00:40:40.559 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 2>with us at hunting camp. There's so many variables with

774
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.440
<v Speaker 2>these things. Sometimes they're killing people, sometimes they're eating them,

775
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:51.400
<v Speaker 2>and sometimes they're pushing people out, And without any definitive answers,

776
00:40:51.480 --> 00:40:54.920
<v Speaker 2>it just leaves this open thing. I don't know if

777
00:40:54.920 --> 00:40:58.519
<v Speaker 2>all of them up here are killers. Never had or

778
00:40:58.599 --> 00:41:04.039
<v Speaker 2>heard of a good experience, nothing peaceful in nature. There

779
00:41:04.119 --> 00:41:06.960
<v Speaker 2>was always a predatory overtone to most of what I've

780
00:41:07.039 --> 00:41:09.599
<v Speaker 2>shared so far and what I've been told over my lifetime.

781
00:41:10.360 --> 00:41:11.639
<v Speaker 2>Be careful in the woods.

782
00:41:12.880 --> 00:41:16.559
<v Speaker 3>They say you don't gotta go home, but.

783
00:41:16.679 --> 00:41:20.760
<v Speaker 2>You can't stay.

784
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be. We're all uppen. Try this

785
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:58.159
<v Speaker 3>job that chart everything. Pride back, joy for me, joy,

786
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 3>stay right away. Concerns inside things consists aside inside and

787
00:42:19.800 --> 00:42:39.639
<v Speaker 3>still start, said sass. Side side inside inside, stay still

788
00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:13.199
<v Speaker 3>as fast, stay pass bas and fins and fans used

789
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:15.440
<v Speaker 3>PST PST