Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What What's going to happen?
Speaker 1: I'll take what help.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Occult Rejects.
Speaker 3: This episode got somebody on that I'm very excited to
Speaker 3: have on. It's kind of like the second time but
Speaker 3: not Uh she's been on Headless as Mailbag, but this
Speaker 3: is technically the Occult Rejects, so uh, yes, this is her.
Speaker 2: First time on the Occult Rejects specifically.
Speaker 3: And I'm very very to have, very very happy to
Speaker 3: have Deborah on.
Speaker 2: But before I introduce her, I will be introducing the
Speaker 2: other reject that made it with us. And we got
Speaker 2: a Headless Giant. What is going on? Sir? How are you?
Speaker 4: How you doing? Everybody? Happy Sunday night? So you can
Speaker 4: find me at the Headless Giant on x and on
Speaker 4: Instagram and on YouTube. And I have a show with
Speaker 4: Nick on Thursday nights called The Magical mail Bag where
Speaker 4: I read through your occult slash paranormal slash dream story
Speaker 4: experiences and you can send those emails to Headless Giant
Speaker 4: podcast at gmail dot com. Also tomorrow, I've got Alchemy
Speaker 4: Mondays coming up and we're gonna be doing some experiments
Speaker 4: with a big old socks alet extractor. I recently got
Speaker 4: and a vacuum pump, and we're gonna be making some
Speaker 4: tea because I don't have any fresh air, so we're
Speaker 4: gonna do tea at first and then we're gonna try
Speaker 4: other things. So it's gonna be fun. And also Sunday mornings,
Speaker 4: I'm on with Ricardo and Ethan Indigo and we do
Speaker 4: the Sunday Trialogus where we bring a topic and we
Speaker 4: discuss it. So definitely check those out.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate you
Speaker 2: joining us.
Speaker 3: And yes, for the people listening again, send out if
Speaker 3: you're gonna send them any email or anything. If you
Speaker 3: want free stickers, send you address and I will send
Speaker 3: you out some free stickers.
Speaker 2: Uh. Thank you, Hellis.
Speaker 3: And finally to the guest Deborah, Uh, please let everybody
Speaker 3: know what you deal is. For the most part, I
Speaker 3: am having you on because you are a medium and
Speaker 3: you're into healing. And we had you on again, like
Speaker 3: I said, for Hellless's mailbag, and you had some interesting stories,
Speaker 3: but you really didn't get to talk about like what
Speaker 3: you do, what your thing is, and I kind of
Speaker 3: wanted to give you the chance to do that, So
Speaker 3: please let everybody know where they can find your your stuff,
Speaker 3: like you know, I know you have a YouTube and Instagram.
Speaker 2: Let them you know, you promote yourself, tell them everything
Speaker 2: that you.
Speaker 1: Want, all right, So mainplace to find me is definitely
Speaker 1: my website, so www dot Paranormal Paradigma dot com and
Speaker 1: through there you can check me out and you know,
Speaker 1: go through my stuff and get to know me a
Speaker 1: little better. And then obviously if you want to directly,
Speaker 1: you know, get to know me a little better, then
Speaker 1: you go to Instagram or TikTok or threads or YouTube
Speaker 1: and you can find me there at the same handle
Speaker 1: at Paranormal Paradigma, and through there we can learn a
Speaker 1: little bit about what I do. I explain some of
Speaker 1: the things that I've learned and why it's important and
Speaker 1: help people essentially connect to spirit and themselves and hopefully
Speaker 1: the purpose is to embody their purpose. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of what I do. So if you're interested in that,
Speaker 1: then check me out.
Speaker 2: Awesome, Thank you very much. Hell is were you getting
Speaker 2: feedback on it before a little bit?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for some reason, it was like a little clique,
Speaker 3: But it wasn't like that when you were talking before.
Speaker 2: Sorry about that.
Speaker 4: Oh it's okay, all right, Debra. I wanted to know
Speaker 4: where you got the name paranormal paradigma.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So let's start from the beginning. So when
Speaker 1: I started this, I wasn't a medium. So I'm going
Speaker 1: to be real, just real, real, real with you all.
Speaker 1: I've only been a medium for over a year. This
Speaker 1: isn't something that I've been doing my whole life, and
Speaker 1: like you know, have now this whole like practice around it.
Speaker 1: I have a nine to five job, I do work,
Speaker 1: but my medium skills didn't really set in until last year,
Speaker 1: and so when I started Paranormal Paradigma, I was sort
Speaker 1: of on a different path, though very similar trajectory. So
Speaker 1: the reason it's called paranormal paradigma is because I really
Speaker 1: do believe that we're here on Earth right now in
Speaker 1: a paradigm shift where things like the paranormal. The idea
Speaker 1: of the paranormal isn't entirely what I guess Hollywood or
Speaker 1: society has made it out to be. There's a lot
Speaker 1: more to the paranormal, a lot more profoundness, a lot
Speaker 1: more death to it. That's related to the spiritual that
Speaker 1: people I think are coming into an understanding of and
Speaker 1: so I was the whole reason for paranormal paradigma was
Speaker 1: to help people sort of come into this understanding kind
Speaker 1: of the stigma, overcome the fear, overcome the stereotypes that's
Speaker 1: related to the paranormal and paranormal experiences, because so many
Speaker 1: people have paranormal or spiritual experiences and then they don't
Speaker 1: really know who to talk to about these things. So
Speaker 1: I figured that's where I would start, and I started
Speaker 1: that twenty twenty three, and two years later, well, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four, I come into my abilities, and now twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, I'm keeping with the same thing, but now
Speaker 1: at another level because I'm actually able to access the
Speaker 1: paranormal or spiritual realm and kind of help people in
Speaker 1: a very different way. But I'm still of the mindset
Speaker 1: and of the belief that there is a paradigm shift happening,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of hoping to, like, you know, help
Speaker 1: people through that final proNT to your consciousness pretty much exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to ask you your opinion, like,
Speaker 3: what does this paradigm shift that mean to you?
Speaker 1: It means remembering, it means awakening, it means understanding that
Speaker 1: we're not just meat suits where a lot we're like,
Speaker 1: we're divine entities in a physical vessel. This is just
Speaker 1: one realm of many, and so if we can all
Speaker 1: remember that and our true essence, this whole society and
Speaker 1: this whole earth would look a whole lot different. So
Speaker 1: that's what the shift is. It's more remembering.
Speaker 3: Do you think with having that remembrance this comes like
Speaker 3: some sort of liberation in a sense.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because remembering connects you to your truth, and
Speaker 1: through your truth, you are liberated.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I even just think, like, yeah, even when you
Speaker 3: start to think that this is just one experience among many,
Speaker 3: it's just like a wife fear the other ones, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, Why fear the experience?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, and people fear. I mean essentially the very
Speaker 1: definition or basis of fear is the unknown. Right, But
Speaker 1: you won't fear things that you are aware of. You
Speaker 1: don't fear what's coming. You only fear what you don't
Speaker 1: know what's coming. And Jeff is one of those things,
Speaker 1: or like transition, one of those things that people don't
Speaker 1: understand because we're not essentially programmed, I guess to really
Speaker 1: understand that we are though, capable of remembering. So that's
Speaker 1: part of what I help people do.
Speaker 2: Now, Hell's was there anything you wanted to ask or
Speaker 2: say before I continued.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think in my experience, the fear is
Speaker 4: what turns a paranormal experience from one of a comforting
Speaker 4: or coming home or remembering to something that is truly
Speaker 4: horrific and you know, terrible. So getting over that fear,
Speaker 4: moving past that fear, I think is so important when
Speaker 4: it comes to exploring these topics, these realms. So having
Speaker 4: a way to assuage that, I think is really helpful.
Speaker 4: The one I keep going back to is Pan. So
Speaker 4: Pan is this god of Arcadia that is the word
Speaker 4: for panic, right, and so he's also a god of
Speaker 4: the rural countryside, and the ability to move through the
Speaker 4: panic when he appears would be sort of like the
Speaker 4: rights of Pan. And we think about Bigfoot and all
Speaker 4: of these other weird cryptids in the woods that create
Speaker 4: a fear in us, it's that same form of panic.
Speaker 4: And the Native Americans believe that Bigfoot was a messenger.
Speaker 4: He was bringing messages from the other side, or messages
Speaker 4: from spirit, and in our culture he's just a big,
Speaker 4: scary hairy monster. Right. It's because that's how we approach him,
Speaker 4: you know. We don't approach him as a messager. We
Speaker 4: approach him as this form thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're absolutely right, And I love the fact
Speaker 1: that you understand that the term panic really can and
Speaker 1: does at a certain level relate to pan, especially being
Speaker 1: that pen was such a trickster himself. So it really
Speaker 1: is interesting that when it comes to fear and panic,
Speaker 1: we have to remember that there is sort of like
Speaker 1: an illusion or trickster energy to this, and that's sort
Speaker 1: of part of the journey is understanding how much of
Speaker 1: that is really the illusion is really not true. But
Speaker 1: that's part of the healing process, and that's something that
Speaker 1: only the individual can go through and must go through
Speaker 1: on their own. It's an individual journey after all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, it's one of those rare instances where you've
Speaker 4: got a random initiation happening in the woods for no
Speaker 4: apparent reason, Like people just feel that fear come over
Speaker 4: them and they're like, I got to get out of here.
Speaker 4: And then other people are like, I know who that is.
Speaker 4: I know that guy. I remember this.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but then that goes back and it kind of
Speaker 1: ties into a few things that ties into a your
Speaker 1: knowledge or your agnosis and how connected you are to that.
Speaker 1: And then it's also going to tie into the programming
Speaker 1: that you already have or what you've essentially been taught
Speaker 1: your whole life. Right, So it just it kind of
Speaker 1: depends on that. So you got to two schools.
Speaker 2: There, mm hmmm, uh yeah, what did to ask?
Speaker 3: Obviously, I mean, you have paranormal and you've had paranormal
Speaker 3: experiences very much. Was it like at what point, like
Speaker 3: I guess, was paranormal always like kind of a part
Speaker 3: of your life, Like at one point like did you
Speaker 3: start entertaining all that it? Was it something that happened
Speaker 3: to you or was it you know, a movie or
Speaker 3: a book you're read?
Speaker 5: You know, Well, the thing is that, like you know,
Speaker 5: when I feel.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of us when we're younger, were at
Speaker 1: a certain level susceptible to these experiences. And I definitely
Speaker 1: was one of them, right that one of the individuals
Speaker 1: who I guess had experiences but I didn't really know
Speaker 1: how to explain them or understand them because everybody, obviously
Speaker 1: all the adults used to say the same thing, which
Speaker 1: was this is not real. That's a bigment of your
Speaker 1: imagination or you're just imagining things like blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. So when I was younger, I do remember
Speaker 1: two instances that really stood out to me. One was
Speaker 1: really quick. I was in fourth grade. Actually, both of
Speaker 1: these happened to me in fourth grade, now that I
Speaker 1: think about it, I was in fourth grade. So when
Speaker 1: I was like eight or nine years old, and I
Speaker 1: remember I was brushing my hair in my parents' room,
Speaker 1: getting ready for school, and suddenly I see a black figure,
Speaker 1: like a black shadow in the in the mirror. But
Speaker 1: the freaky part was like I turned around and for
Speaker 1: a split second, it was still behind me, and then
Speaker 1: it just disappeared, and I was like, what's that? And
Speaker 1: so I ran out, and I remember just like screaming.
Speaker 1: I think my grandmother was the one at the time.
Speaker 1: She was there or something saying over. I don't know
Speaker 1: when me was the next day, I don't remember because
Speaker 1: after the timeline, but I do remember my grandmother was
Speaker 1: the only one who was like believing me. She said, oh, well,
Speaker 1: the next time that you see a spirit, She's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that was a spirit. And I was like okay. She's like, well,
Speaker 1: the next time you see a spirit, you offer it
Speaker 1: the gossip water. I was like, what I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand. Now I do. Obviously, water is very
Speaker 1: sacred and protective, so when you offer water to entities
Speaker 1: or you have water in your room, it's actually very cleansing.
Speaker 1: It can help remove the energies or negative energies. So
Speaker 1: in her in the way she was saying it, obviously
Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, this is a bad spirit and you
Speaker 1: need to remove it and cleanse your space. It was
Speaker 1: just like, oh, it's gonna be fine here, just put
Speaker 1: water in your room. Everything will be okay. And I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, lady. Little do I know how right
Speaker 1: she was about many things. But anyway, then I had
Speaker 1: another point of my fourth grade year. I was awake
Speaker 1: and I was the only one to wake along with
Speaker 1: my mother. So my dad and my sister were sleeping,
Speaker 1: and this was early nineties in the early mid nineties,
Speaker 1: and my mom used to go outside and hang the
Speaker 1: laundry to dry outside but at night on the clothes
Speaker 1: hangars and so or the line, whatever you call it.
Speaker 1: And then I was just in my room. I remember,
Speaker 1: I don't remember what I was doing. I remember I
Speaker 1: was in my room, maybe reading or something, and she screams,
Speaker 1: m ning. It was just like this, like just scream that.
Speaker 1: I thought something was happening because it was. It was
Speaker 1: even Spanish. She yelled my name and spent. She was
Speaker 1: like day and I was like.
Speaker 6: What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: And so my mom didn't really speak to me she
Speaker 1: spoke Spanish because she didn't really speak to me in Spanish,
Speaker 1: but to me, there was just something like Okay, something's
Speaker 1: going on here. So I run outside and she she's like,
Speaker 1: come here, come here from here, and I and I
Speaker 1: go to her and she kind of ducks down to me.
Speaker 1: She puts her hand around me, like her arm around me,
Speaker 1: and she points to the sky and she's like do
Speaker 1: you see that? And I'm like, yeah, lady, there's a
Speaker 1: light in the sky. And she's like and I'm like
Speaker 1: it's an airplane. Mom, Like, I don't understand why you
Speaker 1: called me out here for this, and she's like no,
Speaker 1: She's like no, it is moving too slow. I need
Speaker 1: you to look at this. And I'm like okay, and
Speaker 1: I'm staring at this thing in the sky and she
Speaker 1: kind of started to settle in like in those like
Speaker 1: in the movie when things that kind of settle in
Speaker 1: like really slowly, you're like, oh my god. And I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this UFO and I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: And so we run out into the front yard and
Speaker 1: it's just hovering, and they got closer, and I started
Speaker 1: hovering over like the neighbors' houses, like maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe two blocks down or something enough for me to
Speaker 1: see the shap So it was like typical saucery shape,
Speaker 1: but it was so colorful. It was just beautiful. It
Speaker 1: was the colors, and the colors were dancing, and I
Speaker 1: was just like mesmerized for a few minutes until a
Speaker 1: dawn dummy that there's probably aliens on that craft and
Speaker 1: if there's aliens on the craft, I'm going to get abducted,
Speaker 1: and so I freaked out. And then I ran inside
Speaker 1: and I kind of sat in a corner of the
Speaker 1: kitchen by this refrigerator, just like in a fetal position,
Speaker 1: like just hoping that I wouldn't get abducted, basically, while
Speaker 1: my mom is like trying to find the cam corder
Speaker 1: and oh my god, I need to record this for
Speaker 1: your father instead of waking him up. By the way,
Speaker 1: that was an interesting question. What was that question? Why
Speaker 1: do I remember from fifty years ago my granddad gave
Speaker 1: me the best bit of my grandma's rice pudding. Interesting,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but kind of I guess depends on
Speaker 1: how long was fifty years ago? Was he even my
Speaker 1: live fifty years ago? But anyway, so the point is
Speaker 1: that I saw this UFO and then my mom couldn't
Speaker 1: record it. By the time she came outside with the camport,
Speaker 1: it was only like five minutes. It was gone. It
Speaker 1: was it was awful, it was gone. It didn't It's
Speaker 1: like it never existed. And you know, after that, I
Speaker 1: grew up in a household guys where my dad was
Speaker 1: a complete atheist and my mom was like Roman Catholic
Speaker 1: Santea and really really yeah yeah, but like she she
Speaker 1: didn't practice is Santaia as much because my mom's very
Speaker 1: chicken shit and she was very like But then like
Speaker 1: my great aunt, her aunt was like a priestess and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So like I grew up and then
Speaker 1: my cousins I haven't my mom's sister married into the
Speaker 1: Islaem religion, so like my cousins are Muslim, and then
Speaker 1: I have other family who were like Christian. Then I
Speaker 1: had my grandmother who was like religious but like not
Speaker 1: but then very spiritual. I grew up like very exposed
Speaker 1: to very many different belief systems. Yeah, and so I
Speaker 1: ended up becoming atheist like my father for a while
Speaker 1: until he died. Actually and so and then that kind
Speaker 1: of whole turn of events happened there because he came
Speaker 1: to within me and his death or right before he
Speaker 1: died or right after he died, I can't I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't exactly know which one. But then that sort
Speaker 1: of led me to sort of question reality and what
Speaker 1: we understand reality to be and started going down the
Speaker 1: more esoteric, spiritual occult rot and here I am today.
Speaker 4: So yeah, So can I ask you what does mediumship
Speaker 4: mean to you?
Speaker 1: Mediumship for me is the ability to be a bridge
Speaker 1: or a medium between the spirit realm and the physical realm.
Speaker 1: You are literally the medium or point of contact. So
Speaker 1: mediumship a lot of people think, like, oh, you're a medium,
Speaker 1: you can talk to the dead. Well, yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: so much bigger than that because if you are at mediums,
Speaker 1: by the way, it can be anybody. You can be
Speaker 1: a medium, it can be a medium. Everybody can be
Speaker 1: a medium, Like this is literally like a possibility for everyone.
Speaker 1: If you are getting messages from the other side, you
Speaker 1: are a budding medium. Now it just depends on the
Speaker 1: level that you you know, the levels of understanding, your ego,
Speaker 1: your consciousness, your awareness. Like there's so many factors, which
Speaker 1: is why there's so many different ranges within mediums and
Speaker 1: mediumship or psychic abilities. But medium abilities and psychic abilities
Speaker 1: are intertwined and so so it really just kind of depends.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, why am I
Speaker 1: a medium and why I say I'm a medium and
Speaker 1: I don't call myself psychic and I don't call myself
Speaker 1: like a divinator or things like that, is because I
Speaker 1: understand that what I'm able to do is bridge too
Speaker 1: worlds and whatever that looks like is what it looks like.
Speaker 1: But if I say I'm a psychic, people are going
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, so you can tell my future,
Speaker 1: Like it's not that suitable. Like these things are very complex,
Speaker 1: And it also depends on urinate gifts. And everybody has
Speaker 1: a range of gifts. And while we can access a
Speaker 1: lot of them, what you essentially develop and hone in
Speaker 1: on is going to depend on you and while I
Speaker 1: have abilities, that's a whole other thing. My biggest I
Speaker 1: guess flex or whatever is to be able to connect
Speaker 1: conscious energy to you and like bridge that connection as
Speaker 1: a channel.
Speaker 4: Right, So we were talking a little bit before or about
Speaker 4: maybe taking a reading or something about some of the
Speaker 4: comments in the in the chat over there. So if
Speaker 4: you guys have any sort of comments or questions that
Speaker 4: you'd like to throw a debro, she's willing to take them.
Speaker 4: So we'll throw that out there now for.
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting because usually my readings, I don't do
Speaker 1: live readings, so it's going to be interesting how these
Speaker 1: come through. We'll see. Yeah, we've done live.
Speaker 4: Remote viewings before on the show where we audio, so.
Speaker 1: Remote viewing is wild. Yeah, I'm just like, I can't
Speaker 1: believe I'm seeing all these things that I'm actually here
Speaker 1: in this room right now. So it's just really really interesting.
Speaker 1: Remote viewing is a whole experience when itself.
Speaker 2: When did that start happening for you?
Speaker 3: If you don't, if you maybe you mind maybe taking
Speaker 3: us through like maybe the first time you realize this
Speaker 3: is what's going on.
Speaker 2: Whatever the best way you can.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's all really fresh in my head because it
Speaker 1: just happened last year. Again, I wasn't even though I
Speaker 1: was going down a spiritual path and learning about the
Speaker 1: occults and all these beautiful things, there was obviously a
Speaker 1: level of skepticism right within me. And I think this
Speaker 1: is very natural and normal for people to have. There's
Speaker 1: a healthy amount of skepticism that you need to have.
Speaker 1: You can't just blindly follow whatever people say, because that
Speaker 1: is not the point. And also people again have a different,
Speaker 1: varying levels of understanding, and not everything is necessarily truth,
Speaker 1: and if it is true, you have to remember that
Speaker 1: it is relative. So it's about coming home and coming
Speaker 1: back to your truth. But anyway, what I started doing
Speaker 1: was fucking around and then I found out. So I
Speaker 1: started using dowsing rods, and that was an experience for
Speaker 1: me because it was the first time that I had
Speaker 1: some sort of like ges, like physical evidence that something
Speaker 1: was communicating, do you understand, like through the dowsing rods.
Speaker 1: And I was so like in disbelief. I was like,
Speaker 1: there is no fucking way something conscious is speaking to
Speaker 1: me right now through these rods, Like there's just no
Speaker 1: way that it has to be, Like you know, my
Speaker 1: I don't know reflexes or some sort of like mini tremors,
Speaker 1: like you know, anything that people say I went through,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, that's what I'm doing. But
Speaker 1: I decided to continue doing this and just ask questions
Speaker 1: and see what kind of answers I would to get.
Speaker 1: And then I had my sister do it, who's also
Speaker 1: like a non believer skeptic, and then I had my
Speaker 1: husband do it, who is like a believer but like
Speaker 1: also like scared shitless, and then like we were getting
Speaker 1: very similar things and we were like, there's just no
Speaker 1: way that this is not real, Like there's something here
Speaker 1: that we don't understand. And then one day my sister
Speaker 1: decided to grab the dowsing rods and like I lent
Speaker 1: them to her, and I had no way now to
Speaker 1: communicate with these entities that were apparently speaking to me
Speaker 1: through the dowsing rods. And then of course I've studied,
Speaker 1: I've learned, and I'm like, I don't need those fucking
Speaker 1: dowsing rods. I'm the vessel, I'm the conduit. I can
Speaker 1: do this. And so I started figuring that out and
Speaker 1: I did, and then oh my god, I went through
Speaker 1: a very very very challenging trial, and the beings that
Speaker 1: came to me were not fucking around. It got so bad,
Speaker 1: and this is a true story. You can corroborate it
Speaker 1: with my husband who I'm now set created with, and
Speaker 1: my sister, who you know, had the family scared. Like
Speaker 1: my family was legitimately scared because things were happening that
Speaker 1: nobody could explain, and there were moments where I could
Speaker 1: not speak to anybody. I had to be isolated. It
Speaker 1: was like everybody was like, she's going through a spiritual psychosist,
Speaker 1: like she is like psychotic. And I kept, I remember it,
Speaker 1: kept being like I'm not psychotic. I have to do
Speaker 1: these things. And then I went to a psych ward
Speaker 1: for three days. That was great, got evaluated clean bill
Speaker 1: of health, went to forensic psychologists for a year, got
Speaker 1: evaluated clean deals health and everybody was just like, you're fine.
Speaker 1: And my forensic psychologist was like, zebah, you have a gift.
Speaker 1: You mean to pursue that, pursue it? And I I
Speaker 1: said okay, And so within my forensic psychologists and then
Speaker 1: like also my guides and team, my spiritual team were like,
Speaker 1: start doing readings and you're gonna see for yourself what
Speaker 1: you can do and every and then a year later,
Speaker 1: here am doing readings and seeing myself what I can do.
Speaker 1: And my gifts have evolved very much since the beginning,
Speaker 1: from like only getting little words and little bits and pieces,
Speaker 1: to like full on conversations, to like symbols coming in
Speaker 1: and maybe my body so true story. I can see
Speaker 1: something that I don't recognize consciously, for instance, a sacred
Speaker 1: text or a sacred photo, or like some sort of image,
Speaker 1: and I involuntarily bow to this thing. Or I can
Speaker 1: react to a different language and not know the language.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I do it. Remote viewings one
Speaker 1: of these things that has entered into my abilities to
Speaker 1: and I can just like pool from like things and
Speaker 1: just like get information. On top of the fact that
Speaker 1: then I channeled direct conscious energy in the form of
Speaker 1: your spirit guides, your loved ones, your pets, ancestors, protect
Speaker 1: your spirits, gods, deities. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: Well, I got another one. So which do you think
Speaker 4: is the strongest sense for you? Claire audience, Claire sentience,
Speaker 4: Clare clairvoyance. Which one do you think resonates the most
Speaker 4: when you're having an experience like this?
Speaker 1: All of them? It's just I'm that open. At first,
Speaker 1: it was more of a clear shit when it first started,
Speaker 1: it was clear, more like a clairvoyance Claire audience, and
Speaker 1: it was clear audience, clearvoyance and clear sentences. I'm very
Speaker 1: very it was. And the Cleare sentience was believe the strongest,
Speaker 1: and I feel like if I had to choose one,
Speaker 1: it would be the Clare sentience. But like, everything comes
Speaker 1: in so I can do it all.
Speaker 4: Right, very nice, goodness.
Speaker 2: It was just really interesting stuff.
Speaker 4: Keep looking for those combats, guys, get those questions, and
Speaker 4: let's see what we can do here.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Probably very skeptical. You have a very skeptical audience, which
Speaker 1: is great, but it's part of what you do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, kind of. Ah yeah, but I wasn't like
Speaker 3: taking that really with you. I actually believed you were serious,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, it's just stuff that
Speaker 3: I have no experience with a lot of the things.
Speaker 3: So that you're saying, you were saying to me just
Speaker 3: reminds me a lot of experiences I've had when i've
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what I consider them. Uh,
Speaker 3: your magical experiences or whatever. Uh would almost be like
Speaker 3: this stream of ideas or the stream of like thoughts
Speaker 3: that come into my head. Right, Yeah, it's just there
Speaker 3: was a lot of things that you were saying before that.
Speaker 3: I was just like, Wow, that just reminds me a
Speaker 3: lot of my own experiences. It's almost even like that was.
Speaker 1: Interesting. I have not tried to channel i WAS. I
Speaker 1: Was is a very old and ancient being and very reserved,
Speaker 1: and honestly, if I were to channel i WAS, he
Speaker 1: probably would not be okay with it, as he's very
Speaker 1: not not as open to being channeled by measley humans,
Speaker 1: if that makes any sense.
Speaker 4: Right. So this guy was associated with the channeling of
Speaker 4: the Book of the Law by Alistair Crowley, and so
Speaker 4: i Was was the channel for all of this. You know,
Speaker 4: do as that well, I'm sure you've heard that phrase before.
Speaker 4: That was a Crowley phrase from the Book with Law.
Speaker 4: And he had all of these confirmations as he's going
Speaker 4: through the Egyptian Museum for this IWA's character from a
Speaker 4: stella What was the name of thatut stella?
Speaker 2: Nick after Della of relevant revelation.
Speaker 3: His his girl Rose pointed it out, actually, and it
Speaker 3: was it was at a which I do question her existence.
Speaker 2: To begin with.
Speaker 3: Uh, it was and it was number six six six.
Speaker 3: That was the number of the you know how like
Speaker 3: everything in the museum has its own number on it.
Speaker 3: That was the number two of the of the of
Speaker 3: the item that she pointed out to.
Speaker 2: Him saying, oh, that's horror.
Speaker 3: Supposedly she was pointing out horse, and he was like,
Speaker 3: you know, saying that she really had no idea about
Speaker 3: any of that ship, which I find weird that she's
Speaker 3: with him and has no idea about that stuff at all.
Speaker 3: But still she pointed it out, saying, oh, that's horace.
Speaker 3: And that's how it became the stella of relevant revelation.
Speaker 3: And it was again number six sixty six as the
Speaker 3: item number, which they you know, focusing on to.
Speaker 4: So he's all about the changing of the age and
Speaker 4: that's what sort of the Book of the Law was
Speaker 4: predicting or bringing about.
Speaker 1: Well, I can't tell you much about the Book of
Speaker 1: the Law. I just understand the being himself.
Speaker 3: That was interesting that you knew Deborah from. Uh yeah,
Speaker 3: how did what is iOS associated with? Like what kind
Speaker 3: of like how did you like, how do you know.
Speaker 2: If I was?
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I don't think you really understand
Speaker 1: how this works. I consciously as Zebra. Do not know
Speaker 1: who the fuck I was is, but I can tell
Speaker 1: you that if you were to talk to me about
Speaker 1: a certain god or godess, I can probably answer things
Speaker 1: through what my higher self integrate him self. No, Iowas
Speaker 1: is apparently a being. And this is another thing too
Speaker 1: that I feel like needs to be said. They're a
Speaker 1: collective individual like collective, so collective beliefs also can create beings.
Speaker 4: Makes sense, Yeah, the.
Speaker 1: Exactly, So this just really depends so anyway. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a complicated thing that I do, but I don't understand,
Speaker 1: and I wish I could explain this to you in
Speaker 1: a way that makes more sense. The only thing that
Speaker 1: gives me a great semblance is that I've obviously been
Speaker 1: doing this for a year and have had countless readings
Speaker 1: and the information that I'm able to pull super accurate.
Speaker 1: I don't know how. And not only that, there's obviously
Speaker 1: science that backs up a lot of this stuff. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know the Ions Institute, the Ions
Speaker 1: or Monroe Institute that, yeah, Monroe Institute, and then there's
Speaker 1: IONS in California, the Institute of Noedic Sciences. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: do conscious bilities. So I'm up at I'm reading more
Speaker 1: of that and doctor Dean Raydon is one of the
Speaker 1: sciences school we're at ions, and his work basically is
Speaker 1: talking about the bridge of science and magic and how
Speaker 1: you know it's all in there and there is proof.
Speaker 1: It's just you know people.
Speaker 4: So all I got one. We talked about Pan. Why
Speaker 4: don't we get into a little bit of talking with Pan. Oh,
Speaker 4: here we go. We got a good one.
Speaker 1: I have a deep connection with somebody very dear to me. However,
Speaker 1: they've only visited me in dreams. Is anything they want
Speaker 1: me to do in this particular moment? Oh, Marlay, you
Speaker 1: have a very deep connection with somebody dear to you dreams.
Speaker 1: M hm mm hmm. Is there a way she can
Speaker 1: confirm things that I get?
Speaker 4: Yeah, just just let it out and then comment.
Speaker 1: All right, Marla, somebody very dear to you? Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Why are you afraid of? The answer is the first one. Secondly,
Speaker 1: it seems like dreams it's one of the only ways
Speaker 1: that they can get to you. And I'm getting a female?
Speaker 1: Is it a female? Can you please confirm this before
Speaker 1: I keep going? Male?
Speaker 2: Hopefully still listening?
Speaker 1: One thing?
Speaker 3: Can I ask you questions as we go along or
Speaker 3: do you want to just alright, I just want to
Speaker 3: like screw it all up just in case.
Speaker 1: No, no, do.
Speaker 2: You happen to have like any I don't hate.
Speaker 3: To say, like ritualistic life, but like you happen to
Speaker 3: have like certain practices that you do out throughout the day.
Speaker 3: Like is meditation something you incorporate now that you didn't before?
Speaker 3: Like is there different life practices that you have now
Speaker 3: since things have changed?
Speaker 1: Prayer, nice interesting prayer and not prayer to like through
Speaker 1: a book or whatnot. Prayer in the form of gratitude.
Speaker 1: So I obviously have my little baby altar back here,
Speaker 1: and I honor all things.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, girl.
Speaker 1: Thank you, honey. So and we'll keep going. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna answer next question and then we'll go, Marla,
Speaker 1: there's so much coming through. Okay, let's go. But Nick, Yeah, prayer,
Speaker 1: And the reason for prayer is because as you evolve
Speaker 1: and as you awaken, you realize what you are and
Speaker 1: what you're connected to and how all of this is
Speaker 1: really a divine ror and you get more in touch
Speaker 1: with yourself and like with the beings that you know.
Speaker 1: Depending on your level or whatever, but the point is
Speaker 1: that I'm super grateful for the life that i have
Speaker 1: now and for the fact that I'm still alive because
Speaker 1: I almost died coming to this ability. So it was
Speaker 1: it's I'm a very very grateful person, oh, Marla. But
Speaker 1: that's my biggest shift because obviously I wasn't a faith
Speaker 1: and I didn't believe on anything. I didn't that wasn't
Speaker 1: I thought prayer with something else. Actually I thought people
Speaker 1: prayer to ask for things. I didn't realize prayer is
Speaker 1: essentially gratitude. So saying thank you, I've taped hiss not
Speaker 1: a female but somewhat feminine energy. Good. Oh okay, well,
Speaker 1: I definitely got female or feminine energy, so thank you
Speaker 1: for confirming that. And the reason that they come to
Speaker 1: you in the dreams is because they know that you
Speaker 1: have the ability to dream and to hold on what
Speaker 1: is coming through. Obviously you have a pility to dream,
Speaker 1: but it's the messages that come in your dreams. Marla,
Speaker 1: do you also dream in no astro? Do you? So?
Speaker 1: Is there like a connection between you and the astro realm?
Speaker 1: And if you dream want or like move through the realms,
Speaker 1: then on top of that this person spirit mm hmm. Well, Obviously,
Speaker 1: there's a message of love that I'm getting and I
Speaker 1: almost feel like duh, But there's also a message of
Speaker 1: what is that? Hold on? What am I holding? All right, Marla,
Speaker 1: I'm holding something? Is it a gift? There's like a
Speaker 1: gift or an important heirloom or something that belongs to
Speaker 1: this person that you have and you pray to or
Speaker 1: you keep and an emp do you do with this?
Speaker 1: You're there is something very important, very connected to this being.
Speaker 1: Can you confirm? And I'm holding it? Why am I
Speaker 1: holding it? What is this? Yeah? I'm dreaming of the
Speaker 1: person introduced himself as Tom last night. Can you please
Speaker 1: tell me? Who? Is Tom?
Speaker 4: Likely?
Speaker 1: A guide? Oh?
Speaker 2: That's you know what, that's completely different.
Speaker 3: Sorry it was I had a green emojis green color,
Speaker 3: so it was the same person.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oops, No, it's okay.
Speaker 1: Tom sounds like a guide. But let's see we do
Speaker 1: a quick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to throw Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: it's okay, that's fine, it's good.
Speaker 1: I'm still holding something. What is it? It's some It's
Speaker 1: not heavy, Marla. I'm gonna keep going. It's not heavy.
Speaker 1: It almost feels like either a piece of jewelry, yeah,
Speaker 1: or like a scroll. But no, it's not a scroll.
Speaker 1: It's a either jewelry or cloth. It's like something that
Speaker 1: I can hold and interesting. Can you confirm, Marla? It
Speaker 1: looks crazy doing this, but that's that's what that is
Speaker 1: mostly liminal. Excuse me of doing some astral but not
Speaker 1: consciously perfect. You're confirming, Yes, you do do astral.
Speaker 5: The problem is.
Speaker 1: Your fear of the ass rol and your your skepticism.
Speaker 1: But that happens a lot. So in order to continue
Speaker 1: to do astro and meet people in your astro and
Speaker 1: communicate with the beings, you're going to have to let
Speaker 1: go of some of these preconceived notions of what you
Speaker 1: understand the spirit realm or the astroalm would be what
Speaker 1: am I holding? Marla?
Speaker 2: Yes, that was.
Speaker 1: For somebody else.
Speaker 3: Here's another question that I'm going to show from somebody else.
Speaker 3: So I think like you can answer this with getting
Speaker 3: stuck into something else.
Speaker 2: This is a really good question.
Speaker 1: Very interesting exploring my own gifts. Where would you suggest
Speaker 1: beginning I'm in the beginning of a hem I think
Speaker 1: program from Monroe. Oh really nice figured. Yeah, So one
Speaker 1: of the things that you want to do, what was
Speaker 1: his name that.
Speaker 4: Wife.
Speaker 1: Yep, wife her, Sorry I tell you, I said trad
Speaker 1: as a boy. Okay, So Marla says that her house
Speaker 1: is a whole alter for this person. But there's something
Speaker 1: specific that I'm holding Marla, what is this either piece
Speaker 1: of jewelry? My house is basically an alter. Yes, all
Speaker 1: our houses several pieces of Julie, but related to that
Speaker 1: person specifically. Question now with the girl that wants to
Speaker 1: develop her abilities. The key to developing your abilities, and
Speaker 1: this is what I help people do, like legitimately, and
Speaker 1: this is my specialty and you can see this in
Speaker 1: my in my website is subconscious healing. So the access
Speaker 1: to the soul is through the subconscious. And if you
Speaker 1: want to become more in tune with yourself and your
Speaker 1: authentic self and your true nature or your purpose, which
Speaker 1: is your purpose. By a way, purpose isn't something external
Speaker 1: of you. Purpose is who you are, what you are
Speaker 1: authentically divinely, So if you want to access your divine gift,
Speaker 1: you have to access your purpose, your truth, and that
Speaker 1: comes through subconscious healing and deprogramming what's been programmed for
Speaker 1: all these years. So start there, shadow work better a deeper,
Speaker 1: deeper level.
Speaker 2: I like that shadow work.
Speaker 1: At a deeper level.
Speaker 3: Yes, we're talking about that list show that we did
Speaker 3: prior to you not doing shadow work.
Speaker 4: Extreme shadow work, Sunday shadow work.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so that's gonna be for trad something. Wife.
Speaker 1: I was also clothing. My father's name is Thomas, and
Speaker 1: my grandson so interest wild.
Speaker 2: So you were thinking cloth and jewelry, so that covered both.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it could have been both, but I'm whole.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what I was holding, but it's
Speaker 1: something very specific, almost like I feel like it was
Speaker 1: gift mm hmm, not gifted, no what so who wasn't
Speaker 1: So it was almost like an heirloom. Do you have
Speaker 1: any Airdom pieces?
Speaker 4: This is what I was feeling like when you were
Speaker 4: talking about that. This is what popped into my head.
Speaker 4: So I don't know how close that is, but that's
Speaker 4: what I was.
Speaker 1: Feeling for the jewelry piece, right, Interesting, it's not it
Speaker 1: doesn't have snakes, Yes it does. No, it doesn't. Good okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah doesn't Okay, a lot of clubbing my father
Speaker 1: in the grandson. Okay. It seems like, Marla, what you
Speaker 1: have to start doing is opening yourself to be the channel,
Speaker 1: be the receptive energy or the receptor for this being,
Speaker 1: this person to come through to you. It obviously seems
Speaker 1: that he has a lot to say and some apologies
Speaker 1: to make, mostly surrounding his no whoa no, no, it's
Speaker 1: and what is this? Mostly surrounding his.
Speaker 4: Death?
Speaker 1: Okay, confirm Marla. Yeah, so this is what I'm doing
Speaker 1: now is sort of accessing my own psychic abilities. If
Speaker 1: I had like a person with me, like I'm reading
Speaker 1: for a human typically what I do is then access
Speaker 1: your guide or whoever loved one comes through, and they
Speaker 1: get to speak to them one on one because I
Speaker 1: again act as a channel, so they can speak directly
Speaker 1: to their spirit team or directly to their loved one
Speaker 1: as opposed to what I'm doing now, which is sort
Speaker 1: of like trying to like figure out all this energy
Speaker 1: that's coming through and figure out what's for Marla as
Speaker 1: opposed to what can be for like the other people,
Speaker 1: which is a little difficult. So that's why I need
Speaker 1: her to.
Speaker 6: Confirm a ring. Interesting.
Speaker 1: I think there's something there, Marla. So is it the ring?
Speaker 1: We're getting it? Yes, So the ring is part of it,
Speaker 1: and the ring is probably one of the strongest things
Speaker 1: because you wear it, So that kind of makes sense
Speaker 1: why I was hold holding it and that's why I
Speaker 1: did this. Okay, got it, so probably why I also
Speaker 1: felt it in my hand, So that makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. And again these things don't come in one
Speaker 1: hundred percent is from my grandmother. Okay is that? Wait?
Speaker 1: So Thomas was your grandfather? Is what she said? Right,
Speaker 1: So that's again making sense. Thank you for confirming all this,
Speaker 1: by the way, because I'm obviously getting stuff and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is sure. Yeah, but I think the message here
Speaker 1: is more of a trying to connect with his family
Speaker 1: because nobody's flocking is connected and you're the closest thing.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense to more?
Speaker 5: Luck?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Interesting, And this is what a lot of loved
Speaker 1: ones do.
Speaker 5: By the way, this is.
Speaker 1: Very common, which is why somebody in the family will
Speaker 1: get like the dreams or like the feelings or the
Speaker 1: visions or the hot like the smells or whatever, because
Speaker 1: they're actually trying to connect and like come back and
Speaker 1: reconcile or like reconnect and reaffirm that they are around,
Speaker 1: that death isn't the end. And this is actually what
Speaker 1: happened to me and my father, which funny was interesting
Speaker 1: because my father was very much an atheist, so for
Speaker 1: him to come back, I was like, what, But anyway,
Speaker 1: here we are, does anybody else have any questions? And
Speaker 1: then if you guys want to ask me questions or whatever,
Speaker 1: you can ask.
Speaker 4: Well. I heard an interesting thing about God and a
Speaker 4: theists and the different parts of the brain that are
Speaker 4: activated when people are thinking about God. So when atheists have,
Speaker 4: you know, thoughts about God, nothing in the brain really
Speaker 4: lights up. But when they're having thoughts about the collective
Speaker 4: whole of society, that's when the parts in the brain
Speaker 4: that are normally associated with God light up. Within the atheists,
Speaker 4: so for your dad to make contact with you from
Speaker 4: the other side almost seems natural because that's really where
Speaker 4: his conception of God is located, is within the people
Speaker 4: around him, in the society in general.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting perspective. I would have never thought of
Speaker 1: it that way, but it doesn't make sense. The thing
Speaker 1: is that, like, you know, what I've learned learned is
Speaker 1: that everything exists, and everything exists because it can because
Speaker 1: the universe is made out of thought. So really, you know,
Speaker 1: if you thought it, and if it was written somewhere,
Speaker 1: it's out there somewhere, and for atheists. Atheists, you know,
Speaker 1: everything lies on the spectrum. So if obviously you have
Speaker 1: a believer, you need to have a not believer an unbeliever.
Speaker 1: What are you going to call it? Because this is
Speaker 1: what lends to the balance. What do you think about
Speaker 1: walk in spirits? That's I have had a few to those.
Speaker 1: I believe I have a walk in spirit because for
Speaker 1: a while, when I was in my twenties, I thought
Speaker 1: I had de id It has a twin flame current
Speaker 1: living at this home on this planet. Interesting. So if
Speaker 1: you had walk in spirits, you're actually a channel and
Speaker 1: you're just not like you're more open than you realize.
Speaker 1: My son has a gift of well, he predicted my pregnancy.
Speaker 1: He said, mom My, God told me I'm going to
Speaker 1: have your sister, and I must later comes a baby girl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when children have.
Speaker 2: Huh, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all fighting with each other right now?
Speaker 2: It too right?
Speaker 3: Did you say that by contacting you because you're the
Speaker 3: only person that you can contact.
Speaker 1: Oh that makes sense, Yeah, that's crazy. His name is
Speaker 1: Virtual Dante, Marla, Vincent Alice. All live in a different system.
Speaker 4: Marla's coming up too, So he's talking about Marlo we've
Speaker 4: got Marl in the comments. That's weird secret over the place.
Speaker 1: They just remember they're demonic angels and human ghosts. You
Speaker 1: have to know the difference. So trust your fear instinct.
Speaker 1: It's there for a reason. No, Actually I deal with
Speaker 1: the demons. I have instinct with demons, and demons are
Speaker 1: something that I deal with often, and negative energies, and
Speaker 1: you just have to.
Speaker 5: Learn how to once you learn learn what.
Speaker 1: How do I say this? Demonic energies are not a joke,
Speaker 1: And yes, you have to understand the level of seriousness
Speaker 1: or caution that you should have when approaching these things.
Speaker 1: And anybody that's kind of just starting off with their
Speaker 1: abilities or hasn't evolved a very good level of discernment
Speaker 1: needs to be very careful with what comes through. Because
Speaker 1: I've already had experience with other mediums who thought they
Speaker 1: were channeling something and it was something very very tricky
Speaker 1: and very very negative, and that actually happened to me
Speaker 1: in the beginning. So many energies try to come through
Speaker 1: and masquerade as something positive and beautiful in your life,
Speaker 1: and you have to be the one as the vessel,
Speaker 1: as a discerner to know the difference and That's one
Speaker 1: of my earliest lessons was getting attacked literally daily, And
Speaker 1: my husband saw this actually, and he was a witness
Speaker 1: to this, when demonic energies were around and we're trying
Speaker 1: to enter me and we're within me, what that looked
Speaker 1: like and having to fight that off and discern from
Speaker 1: what was truly meant to do good for me and
Speaker 1: guide me as opposed to what's trying to trick me,
Speaker 1: and you know, have me disconnect for myself or leave
Speaker 1: me down something else. And if you don't understand the
Speaker 1: difference or how to instill your power, you can be
Speaker 1: very much tricked. And so I do appreciate your warning,
Speaker 1: but I've definitely entered a level when my life where
Speaker 1: like I can literally it's almost like I just pick
Speaker 1: up on them and I know where they're at, and
Speaker 1: then like my team helps in removing the energy or
Speaker 1: me myself. So it just really really depends on what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 4: Fear is like a seven course meal to a demon.
Speaker 4: So yeah, and it opens up the door to a
Speaker 4: lot of other fears in your life, because once you
Speaker 4: start to fear that, everything else gets activated and he
Speaker 4: could see what you're really afraid of. It really start
Speaker 4: to tap into that fear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that's what they do, so you can't
Speaker 1: give them that power. And once you do, I literally
Speaker 1: had I will never forget this fucking demon. He was huge.
Speaker 1: He was like big and fulky and black and it
Speaker 1: was just like all big and bad and he was
Speaker 1: like up in my face and he's like, you're not afraid.
Speaker 1: He should fear me, fear me, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you are literally just like me. The only difference is
Speaker 1: you chose yourself. That's it.
Speaker 5: And then he was he just looked at me.
Speaker 1: He's like this bitch, and I was like, wow, you know,
Speaker 1: what are you going to do? I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be afraid of you. I'm not afraid of demons. There
Speaker 1: is not a demon yet. I mean, I've been a
Speaker 1: little worried. Now am I gonna lie. There's a few that
Speaker 1: I've like, I've been like, ohhh, yeah, you're scary. But again,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to also know that you're divinely
Speaker 1: protected and how to use that to your advantage. And
Speaker 1: your truth is your sovereignty. You are a sovereignty and
Speaker 1: if you know that, what are they going to do?
Speaker 1: It's like the vampire Lord. You get to invite them in,
Speaker 1: and I don't invite them in. Do you understand my
Speaker 1: power is my space? You can shift sesche in seche way,
Speaker 1: So of course I'm making it seem very like nonchalant.
Speaker 1: The actual experience of this is brutal.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: It's actually brutal and very frustrating and time consuming and
Speaker 1: energy draining into illitating. But you know that's for more
Speaker 1: advanced individuals. And if you happen to be one of
Speaker 1: those individuals, then you need help. I can help with
Speaker 1: that too. And attachments, and a lot of people have
Speaker 1: attachments right as far as walking, huh.
Speaker 4: If we could go back to marlaw real quick. We're
Speaker 4: just talking on the other podcast about how important it
Speaker 4: is to keep a childlike sense of wonder, and I
Speaker 4: think that childlike sense of wonder really does kind of
Speaker 4: diffuse a lot of the anger. Right, So if you
Speaker 4: can get a person into playing a game or having
Speaker 4: some sort of an experience that produces that same sort
Speaker 4: of feeling of childlike wonder, you're going to fuse a
Speaker 4: lot of conflict. So if if that's the message coming
Speaker 4: from the other side, maybe have like a family game
Speaker 4: night or something where you can gather people around and
Speaker 4: they can experience some childlike wonder or some communion outside
Speaker 4: of the problems that they're having already. So I think
Speaker 4: that would help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would definitely help. Yeah, and anything
Speaker 1: that's going through, Like what everybody talks about raising your vibration.
Speaker 1: You know, your vibe is really the most protective thing
Speaker 1: that you can have. And this is why healing is
Speaker 1: so important, because as you heal, you raise your vibration.
Speaker 1: And then now you're entering into different realities. What was
Speaker 1: your reality before? Now isn't okay walkings, my hair's colors
Speaker 1: changing and everything's spell braid because his vibration is too high.
Speaker 1: When Vergil walks in, okay, my hair stands up good,
Speaker 1: that's normal. My eye color changes, that is advanced, And
Speaker 1: I haven't done a soul braid okay, because his vibration
Speaker 1: is too high. If his vibration is too high, that
Speaker 1: means years is probably too low. And that's happening. And
Speaker 1: if you do want to make some sort of like
Speaker 1: a connection, then you have to sort of be a
Speaker 1: little more open to what this is. The problem with
Speaker 1: that is with walkins, as you are open and you're
Speaker 1: an open channel, you're also allowing other things in you.
Speaker 1: So you had this is where that's discernment comes. What
Speaker 1: are you allowing in you? What is walking through you?
Speaker 1: And and are you sure it's in your highest good?
Speaker 1: Because then if it's not, then you're going to have
Speaker 1: a pretty nasty experience. But if his vibration is really
Speaker 1: high and you can feel that, then I would say
Speaker 1: that this is a youth thing where you have your
Speaker 1: own you've created your own block or your own obstacle,
Speaker 1: and there's a imposter syndrome sort of thing going where
Speaker 1: you don't believe in your power and so that needs
Speaker 1: that trust that you have. You need to start developing
Speaker 1: with yourself accepting that either the diagnosis or what the
Speaker 1: fuck is going on.
Speaker 4: That's what you're talking about. No, yeah, accepting all of
Speaker 4: that because he didn't think that's who he is. So
Speaker 4: that's I think that might be important, you know, because
Speaker 4: a lot of times people are doing it is important
Speaker 4: it changes.
Speaker 1: Well that's a problem. Oh, yes, I'm actually helping somebody
Speaker 1: who is diagnosed with bipolar syndrome. She lives in my
Speaker 1: la Asia actually, so I have international clients, which is
Speaker 1: very interesting. But we're working on that because she was
Speaker 1: diagnosed with depression and bipolar and I'm having her understand
Speaker 1: that while yes, this is you know, obviously everything at
Speaker 1: the end is a mental problem, but there is a
Speaker 1: certain level of control that you do have, and that
Speaker 1: oft comes from healing your conscious awareness and then subconscious too,
Speaker 1: and we're kind of working on that. But the diagnosis
Speaker 1: and when people the problem with modern medicine or western
Speaker 1: medicine is that it disconnects you from the other side
Speaker 1: of reality, which is this more unknown or spiritual side.
Speaker 1: And so when people get a diagnosis, it instantly lowers
Speaker 1: their confidence, It instantly lowers their power or their sovereignty
Speaker 1: ort anything, because all of a sudden you've broken a trust.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh my god, all these things that I
Speaker 1: thought I was feeling, I'm a fucking nut case. And
Speaker 1: obviously what's going to happen is like you dwindle down
Speaker 1: and then you turn off, so to speak, especially if
Speaker 1: you're on medication too, like beta blockers and things like that,
Speaker 1: that's also going to turn you off. So then that
Speaker 1: kind of creates this kind of conflict within the brain
Speaker 1: of Okay, well, what's real and what's non This is
Speaker 1: where you have the association or psychosis or schizophrenia that
Speaker 1: you know with hallucinations and things like that. So it
Speaker 1: just really depends. But if people were a little bit
Speaker 1: more receptive to healing and the type of healing that
Speaker 1: they needed to do, this wouldn't be as big. Part
Speaker 1: of the problem is that everybody's saying that this shit
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. You have these experiences, nobody there to guide you,
Speaker 1: and now you're questioning reality, and you think that's not
Speaker 1: going to create a mental problem. Of course it is,
Speaker 1: especially if you question yourself.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Yes, was there other questions? Was there anything
Speaker 2: else in there?
Speaker 1: Something? But I don't know what. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was like a confirmation or yes.
Speaker 3: I thought, yeah, no, nothing new for Marlowe. For some reason,
Speaker 3: I thought I might have seen something new from my apologies.
Speaker 2: Oh hello, s did you have anything?
Speaker 4: I'm actually trying to pull up a diagram right now
Speaker 4: that I think would be interesting. So this is Isaac
Speaker 4: Bonowitz's laws of magic, and identification is a big part
Speaker 4: of how he sees the laws of magic.
Speaker 3: Let me see, I don't even think I've heard of
Speaker 3: this this.
Speaker 4: So well, I can I can cut of zoom in Okay,
Speaker 4: have you used the.
Speaker 2: Those Oh god, why am I forget the Gateway tapes?
Speaker 1: No? What is that?
Speaker 2: Oh? That was from the Monroe Institute.
Speaker 1: They are the ones that they Oh no, oh no,
Speaker 1: I haven't. I mean I know of them and I've
Speaker 1: read a little bit, but I haven't gone deep diving
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But I know that they do
Speaker 1: a lot of work with the extreme of consciousness, especially
Speaker 1: if the astro realm and like out of body experiences.
Speaker 1: Having everyone chill on and play together would be exactly
Speaker 1: my loved ones would have done if they were here.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's my first ever psychic reading. Girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Come on over. If you have more questions, you can
Speaker 1: d M me or send me an email and I
Speaker 1: can help answer other questions.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm very like open. I answer my own stuff. Nothing's
Speaker 1: I'm not that fancy and automator or whatever. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: an actual human doing things, so you can ask me
Speaker 1: and I will respond, yes, yes, she is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do have your for people interested. I do
Speaker 3: have your link tree too in the show notes already.
Speaker 1: So yes, awesome. Hopefully it's it's working.
Speaker 2: Check that Oh no, it is, I checked it. I
Speaker 2: clicked on it.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to make sure before I put it
Speaker 3: in there myself because I've had a link trick go
Speaker 3: bad on me, so you know.
Speaker 2: It happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes things need to be updated. But what is this?
Speaker 1: Let me see the laws of math unity. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's perfect practic synthesis. Knowledge is right smack in the middle,
Speaker 1: the quality qualitative diagnam of the primary into relations words
Speaker 1: of power. Yeah, and they're inside association synchronicity with polarity
Speaker 1: and perversity. Interesting synthesis.
Speaker 4: Well, the polarity and perversity, that's like, uh, the inversions inversions, yeah, polarity.
Speaker 1: Right, it's a little crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Association has that identification right there, so that will be
Speaker 4: in the diagnosis block. So once you start identifying with
Speaker 4: that diagnosis, that's sort of what your personality becomes.
Speaker 1: Well, this happens right, yes, right, And and this is
Speaker 1: why this is why you're he This is why you
Speaker 1: need to do the healing, right, because if you are
Speaker 1: not in tune with who you are authentically or what
Speaker 1: you are and your own truth, you start to then
Speaker 1: sort of become the reflection of others. So like if
Speaker 1: somebody says you're I don't know, you're I don't know,
Speaker 1: like a stumback whatever, I don't know. And you really
Speaker 1: don't have a high self esteem or a high self worth,
Speaker 1: or you really aren't in your power, and you don't
Speaker 1: know your own truth. And you hear it enough through
Speaker 1: society or through your family, through your friends, that's what
Speaker 1: you identify as. And so what happens with individuals when
Speaker 1: they have mental illnesses is that sort of low confidence insecurity,
Speaker 1: low self worth, misunderstanding of who they are, why they
Speaker 1: are here, what their purpose is. And then somebody gives
Speaker 1: them some sort of scientific or medical diagnosis. And because
Speaker 1: it's scientific, and because it's medical, it's absolute truth and
Speaker 1: just what I am. Right, when things can be relative.
Speaker 4: Right, And you know, having having that idea that you
Speaker 4: don't have to always identify with the things people tell
Speaker 4: you puts an end to the nominative determinism. Right. So
Speaker 4: this is a term a while back where the name
Speaker 4: that you're given usually ends up having something to do
Speaker 4: with you, with what you do in life. Right. So, yes,
Speaker 4: you've got you know, bills that act like other bills.
Speaker 4: You know, you've got all these different people with these
Speaker 4: names and they they seem to sort of gravitate towards
Speaker 4: the same stuff because it's like this nominative determinism. It's
Speaker 4: it's a form of magic.
Speaker 1: It is, I imagine, because you know, such a complex
Speaker 1: and like big thing. But I love that you mentioned
Speaker 1: that in the name, because a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: realize how much power is in the name and why
Speaker 1: you chose this name or this name was given to you,
Speaker 1: And so if they did, and I actually resonated with this,
Speaker 1: like in order for you to resonate your name or
Speaker 1: understand why you have the name you have, you would
Speaker 1: have to be at a certain level of awareness. But
Speaker 1: there is power in a name. And as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, when I speak to guides, some guides will
Speaker 1: not give their name because of the power that it
Speaker 1: holds and because of what it can activate too within
Speaker 1: the soul. I literally have two guides right now. Out
Speaker 1: of all my guys, two of them have still to
Speaker 1: this day refused to give me their name. And they're
Speaker 1: just like Deborah, we are so connected to you. I
Speaker 1: don't know what this will activate in you if we
Speaker 1: give you my name like our name. And I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to be going slow, like I'm supposed to be taking
Speaker 1: it slow because what I went through the first few
Speaker 1: months was so traumatic to like myself and like my
Speaker 1: soul that my team was legitimately scared, not only my
Speaker 1: spirit team, but like my family, my friends and everybody
Speaker 1: was legitimately scared for me. And they're like, we're not
Speaker 1: going to do that to you again. So effer names
Speaker 1: have power and they can be very activating, very healing.
Speaker 1: For instance, my name is Deborah. It's Hebrew for B.
Speaker 1: And also Deborah was a prophetest in the Bible, one
Speaker 1: of the only and she was a judge, and she
Speaker 1: was the only female judge I think in the Bible.
Speaker 1: So she was just and fair and she went through
Speaker 1: the community and prophesized and taught the Word and things
Speaker 1: like that. And when I think about it, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's very interesting. But what's even more interesting is the bee.
Speaker 1: Because before this started, I started, and then I can
Speaker 1: still do this. I started seeing hexagrams in my room
Speaker 1: gold and hexagrams all over my room like a grid.
Speaker 1: And you know, now I know my name means B
Speaker 1: and b's are probably one of the more sacred or
Speaker 1: revered animals in like essentially the world because of what
Speaker 1: they can do and what they produce. So I think
Speaker 1: it's pretty much an honor to be named after the
Speaker 1: bee and.
Speaker 4: Psychic activity as well. Yes, they have a mind pretty much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so a lot of a lot.
Speaker 1: Can be associated with our names. My daughter's name is Evangeline,
Speaker 1: and let me tell you, I again was atheist. I
Speaker 1: wasn't into like this, but for some reason I decided
Speaker 1: like this was her name. She is Evangeline, and the
Speaker 1: Evangeline is the evangelist, the evangelized, the messenger. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's going to mean for her, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Was there a Was there anything else that you would
Speaker 3: like to mention about yourself double or anything maybe to
Speaker 3: pertain to like your services or your website or any
Speaker 3: who you are or whatever before we wrap it up.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, so, I mean, I guess part of my
Speaker 1: message is if I could do this and if I
Speaker 1: can connect to the truth of our reality or part
Speaker 1: of the truth, because I'm not like we know everything,
Speaker 1: but as part of the truth, and I'm able to
Speaker 1: kind of receive messages and enter into my own healing
Speaker 1: process and heal and become more in tune and embody
Speaker 1: my purpose, So can you right, Like if I'm not
Speaker 1: some sort of you know, I don't know divine saint,
Speaker 1: I'm human like anybody else. And that's what My first
Speaker 1: name is a Hindu goddess and my second name is
Speaker 1: an Egyptian goddess. And I'm not East Indian nor Egyptian.
Speaker 1: And you guess what they are, well, Hindu goddess. The
Speaker 1: first one I thought of was calli so, and the
Speaker 1: second one, yeah, and the second Egyptian goddess. If it's
Speaker 1: a goddess, it would probably be I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's isis.
Speaker 3: Or right on the colleague, Yeah, yeah, yeah, when it
Speaker 3: comes to Hindu goddesses too, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Colly popped up real strong. And then the Egyptian
Speaker 1: goddess is either going to be either isis or yeah
Speaker 1: is that is beautiful. Both are very very very amazing.
Speaker 4: So when you said homestead trad wife, she means really
Speaker 4: really traditional.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, that is amazing. But yeah, so I
Speaker 1: guess that's my message, Like anybody can do this. We
Speaker 1: put all have the power to awaken to our own
Speaker 1: medium abilities or psychic abilities if we had, first of
Speaker 1: all the courage to like explore that means for us,
Speaker 1: second of all, the courage and commitment and discipline to
Speaker 1: heal through the pain and through the wombs and through
Speaker 1: the subconscious programming, and three to remember like there's just
Speaker 1: so much more than meets the eye, and we do
Speaker 1: have the ability to do this. And this is why
Speaker 1: I do the subconscious healing, because again it's through the
Speaker 1: subconscious that you access the soul. So yeah, and I
Speaker 1: guess what I want other people and everybody to know
Speaker 1: is that it's not it doesn't need to be woul,
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't need to be like this is
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm going to tell you. So I'm
Speaker 1: a very very practical human and I believe in being
Speaker 1: able to apply and actually integrate these things and that
Speaker 1: not like come from like my ass. You understand, like
Speaker 1: this is supposed to be real healing work, so that
Speaker 1: people start to trust that these things are real and
Speaker 1: not a con or whatever.
Speaker 4: So yeah, absolutely, that's where the healing takes place, is
Speaker 4: when people can integrate the things that they have experienced
Speaker 4: back into their normal life. And that's that's where they
Speaker 4: pick up and actually become valuable and useful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's what I'm here to do, and I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a real person. I'm really cool. I think to
Speaker 1: talk to you. I talk to Nick every now and then, right.
Speaker 7: Nick, And yes, definitely, but you know I will Hey,
Speaker 7: like you're just saying, you know, Con, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 7: I just think, right, I mean, honestly, my opinion, just
Speaker 7: what you did on.
Speaker 3: The show today was actually kind of impressive. I mean
Speaker 3: you were kind of spot on with a bunch of
Speaker 3: stuff already. So uh, that was a lot of fun.
Speaker 2: And I thank.
Speaker 3: You, thank you, hell helly. If you ever want to
Speaker 3: come on, you know, if you ever want to come
Speaker 3: on in the future again and do that to you know,
Speaker 3: promote yourself again, please, I mean that was a bless
Speaker 3: that was actually really interesting.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah. But if you guys are ever
Speaker 1: ever open and courageous enough to see what comes through
Speaker 1: for you guys, for your show or people, I do
Speaker 1: that all.
Speaker 2: Right for sure. Maybe we could talk about doing that next.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll talk about next, all right, it sounds good.
Speaker 4: It's always open. If you ever want to come on
Speaker 4: there and give your impressions to people's occult experiences, that's
Speaker 4: when they send them to me. So that would be
Speaker 4: a very oh my god.
Speaker 1: That would be really real cool, and then I can
Speaker 1: like tap into like whatever it is people's experiences are
Speaker 1: and stuff. And I think for me this is all
Speaker 1: also a really fun experience because again, I don't do
Speaker 1: it like this often. To just kind of be able
Speaker 1: to like pick up on things and not see a
Speaker 1: face or like anything is still it's pretty impressive. Even
Speaker 1: for me. I'm just like, whoa, oh, okay.
Speaker 2: That was great.
Speaker 1: Actually yeah, but somebody said I was really fun to
Speaker 1: talk to, so I'm saying, thank you very much. That
Speaker 1: was very very kind and I appreciate that. And if
Speaker 1: you can want to keep on talking now, you guys
Speaker 1: know where to find me now, so come on over.
Speaker 2: Definitely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you let everybody know where they can find
Speaker 3: you stuff. Again, you did you did say that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, www dot Paranormal Paradigma dot com, Instagram, TikTok, threads,
Speaker 1: and YouTube though YouTube is more in the works, but
Speaker 1: it's at Paranormal Paradigma and the cool very cool lady things, uh.
Speaker 1: And the cool thing about also that I want to
Speaker 1: kind of put out there because a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't do this, but all my pay what you can,
Speaker 1: so like I'm not here trying to charge two hundred
Speaker 1: three hundred dollars for reading, because I think that's not
Speaker 1: where I'm at right now. I think what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to do is really reach as many people as I
Speaker 1: can so that they understand their own truth. So if
Speaker 1: you guys are interested or like whatever, whoever is listening,
Speaker 1: can do this at all, pay what you can price.
Speaker 2: So very nice, very nice. I appreciate that. Yes, I
Speaker 2: will have your link tree in the bottom.
Speaker 3: Like I said, I tested it out already, it works,
Speaker 3: so everything will be in there.
Speaker 1: Hell, thank you.
Speaker 2: Just remind everybody again about your shows and Thursday.
Speaker 4: All right, So tomorrow we've gotten alchemy Monday, and this
Speaker 4: is gonna be a big day. We're gonna be making
Speaker 4: tea with the big old socks a let extractor. We're
Speaker 4: gonna get a little footage of that going on, and
Speaker 4: you're gonna see how it works. So we're gonna start
Speaker 4: extracting herbs pretty soon. We're gonna be reading through Spajerics.
Speaker 4: We're gonna be reading through Miracles of the Forge and
Speaker 4: the Crucible and uh other alchemy books that are just
Speaker 4: coming in. So it's gonna be an awesome time. Also,
Speaker 4: we've got the Thursday mail bag of course with Nick
Speaker 4: and if you want to get your emails to us
Speaker 4: on Thursday, that is Headless Giant Podcast at gmail dot com.
Speaker 4: Send us those stories and if you give me your address,
Speaker 4: Nick will send you eight stickers. So Sundays, also we
Speaker 4: have the Trialogues, so definitely check out check out the
Speaker 4: Trialogues with Ethan Indigo and Rico caled Audio. They're a
Speaker 4: great time. Lots of synthesis, lots of secretism, so it's
Speaker 4: it's a good time.
Speaker 3: Definitely check out those shows, and definitely check out Debrah's
Speaker 3: links again check out you know she's on social media.
Speaker 3: I had a great time, dever for real. I'm glad
Speaker 3: you came back on and we definitely have to We
Speaker 3: definitely have to get you on the show again in
Speaker 3: the future.
Speaker 2: So thank you and everybody in the chat. You yeah,
Speaker 2: everybody in the chat. That was fun to.
Speaker 3: Tell I appreciate everybody joining in the questions. People you
Speaker 3: know they're interested. This was fun. Uh that's why I
Speaker 3: go live, and I kind of was hoping it would
Speaker 3: go this way. So thank you all, and uh, until
Speaker 3: the next one, everybody be well.