Speaker 1: You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
Speaker 1: six forty.
Speaker 2: KFI Handle here.
Speaker 3: It is a Thursday morning, April twenty four. A couple
Speaker 3: things before we jump into how the California economy is
Speaker 3: doing and it's good news, which I don't understand this
Speaker 3: but so be it.
Speaker 2: First of all, some.
Speaker 3: Of the trending stories we're looking at. Oh, here's one,
Speaker 3: Neil your wheelhouse. Jack in the Box announced plan to
Speaker 3: close one hundred and fifty to two hundred underperforming stores.
Speaker 3: It's a financial plan they're calling Jack on track. Originally
Speaker 3: we're gonna call it the Clown is Dying, but that
Speaker 3: one didn't work out.
Speaker 2: So Jack in the Box harder sell. It is a
Speaker 2: harder cell.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Now, some news about the California economy. The governor announced
Speaker 3: yesterday that we are now number four in the world.
Speaker 3: I mean, the United States economy is first a twenty
Speaker 3: nine trillion, China eighteen trillion, Germany at four point sixty
Speaker 3: five trillion, and we are that we are next to
Speaker 3: the at Our economy is ridiculous.
Speaker 2: It's growing.
Speaker 3: And let me ask you, how does the economy grow
Speaker 3: when you have businesses leaving California. I can't think of
Speaker 3: the last time a major business came to or came
Speaker 3: back to California. You can't afford housing in California. The
Speaker 3: taxes are crazy in California. Oh, I know how we
Speaker 3: do it. What we do is we market our traffic
Speaker 3: because people from all over the world want to come
Speaker 3: in California, California and live with our traffic. I don't
Speaker 3: get it newsome attributed to a growing population, record tourism
Speaker 3: spending coupled with a high concentration of venture capital and
Speaker 3: new business ventures. I guess that's really where it's at.
Speaker 3: I mean, we do have agriculture big time, until illegal
Speaker 3: migrants will no longer be allowed to work in this
Speaker 3: country and then our agricultural sector completely disappears. High tech centers,
Speaker 3: we have a lot of those manufacturing centers. I didn't
Speaker 3: think we were that big on manufacturing. I know, agriculture
Speaker 3: we are. Oh, how about the film and television industry.
Speaker 3: You know, we're losing We are losing centers, and we
Speaker 3: are losing productions like crazy because they're going out of state,
Speaker 3: out of country.
Speaker 2: So you know, for the life of me, I do
Speaker 2: not understand it.
Speaker 3: In the meantime, California, as well as many other states
Speaker 3: or several other states, have filed a lawsuit against the
Speaker 3: administration challenging Trump's executive authority to enact international tariffs. Now,
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't like those tariffs because well, frankly,
Speaker 3: it's going to cost the consumer a bucket of money,
Speaker 3: and the major stores are in a lot of trouble.
Speaker 2: Even though Trump exempted a.
Speaker 3: Certain sector from that one hundred and forty five tariff
Speaker 3: against China. What he exempted was the big ticket electronic
Speaker 3: items computers and chips, etc. Leaving everything else in. So
Speaker 3: what happens with the meeting of the president's CEO of
Speaker 3: Walmart and Target. They went to him and saying, you
Speaker 3: know what, We're gonna have empty shelves.
Speaker 2: You can kiss our stores goodbye. Oops. Oops. So there's
Speaker 2: a lawsuit.
Speaker 3: The lawsuit is not to somehow lower the.
Speaker 2: Lower the tariffs.
Speaker 3: This lawsuit, as well as many other lawsuits that are
Speaker 3: going to be flying, has to do with the president's
Speaker 3: authority to do that unilaterally.
Speaker 2: Usually in all of these cases.
Speaker 3: I know I'm digressing a little bit, but the fact
Speaker 3: is we're number four, Okay, thank you. Now the tariffs
Speaker 3: which they kick in are going to be very difficult.
Speaker 3: California will not be number four because we rely so
Speaker 3: much on importing of goods, particularly from Asia, particularly from China,
Speaker 3: certainly Korea, Vietnam. So it's gonna get really interesting. We'll
Speaker 3: see what happens. This is all Supreme Court stuff. By
Speaker 3: the way, all these cases Supreme Court cases. How much
Speaker 3: is the president? What kind of power the President has bill.
Speaker 1: What is the California economy made on?
Speaker 4: Is that based on our taxes as well as is
Speaker 4: that income to the state.
Speaker 3: It is, but that is that's not the state generating income. Now,
Speaker 3: employees are part of the economy. State employees are part
Speaker 3: of the economy, and they're big. But it's what we produce,
Speaker 3: services and goods that we produce.
Speaker 2: That's the economy.
Speaker 3: And it's agriculture, and it's aerospace, and it's manufacturing, and
Speaker 3: it's high tech. Agricultural is based on well, fifty percent
Speaker 3: and I'm just throwing this figure out, but I think
Speaker 3: is pretty close. Fifty percent of the workers are the migrants,
Speaker 3: illegal migrants, and now the high tech people. Okay, that's
Speaker 3: obviously people who are here legally. And that's the other
Speaker 3: issue with the visas, the tech visas that are going
Speaker 3: on that the President wants to stop.
Speaker 2: It's a mess.
Speaker 3: But the bottom line is California, counterintuitively is number.
Speaker 2: Four in the world.
Speaker 3: Now it's probably going to go back to five in
Speaker 3: the world because you've got India that's moving very quickly
Speaker 3: in our direction.
Speaker 2: But still four or five. What difference that make?
Speaker 3: It's enormous, enormous Okay, I want to go to Pope Francis,
Speaker 3: who is not only.
Speaker 2: Dead, but also he is going to be made a saint.
Speaker 3: I guarantee that there will be sainthood in his future.
Speaker 3: Catholic Church is big on saints. John Paul the second
Speaker 3: is a saint. John the twenty third is a saint.
Speaker 3: Now the act of canonization may someone becoming a saint?
Speaker 2: The Pope does that.
Speaker 3: It's the Holy See, and there there is a long
Speaker 3: process to be made a saint, and there are people
Speaker 3: already starting to work on it. Extensive proof that the
Speaker 3: candidate for canonization lived and died in such an exemplary
Speaker 3: and holy way worthy to be recognized as a saint.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's Francis.
Speaker 3: And it implies that the person is now in heaven
Speaker 3: and maybe publicly invoked and mentioned officially in the.
Speaker 2: Liturgy of the Church.
Speaker 3: And you could allow universal veneration of a saint, but
Speaker 3: to venerate someone locally only Beautif beatification is needed, okay,
Speaker 3: you can.
Speaker 2: Be beatified, that's only local.
Speaker 3: How is I going to compare Remember I told you
Speaker 3: I was going to compare handle on the law to
Speaker 3: Pope Francis being a saint. Here it is okay. If
Speaker 3: he is only beatified, he can only be venerated locally.
Speaker 3: If he is sainted, it is across the Handle on
Speaker 3: the Law is both a local show as well as
Speaker 3: a national show. So the local part of Handle on
Speaker 3: the Law can only be beautified, the national part can
Speaker 3: be sainted. That I actually say that my legal show
Speaker 3: deserves sainthood. Only the people that listen to it deserve sainthood.
Speaker 2: So some of the rules and the rules.
Speaker 3: Go crazy on canonization and they started. Actually sainthood's been
Speaker 3: going on for almost two thousand years in the Catholic Church,
Speaker 3: and it changed from zero.
Speaker 2: And I think who was the first saint? Would it
Speaker 2: have been Peter? I don't know who is it? Those
Speaker 2: crucified upside down?
Speaker 1: That would be Peter?
Speaker 2: Would that be Peter?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, got it. Are there portraits of Peter.
Speaker 1: Cruci fight to upside down? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well then you only have portraits of feet. But are
Speaker 3: there portraits Peter? I remember seeing them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course there's Okay, what do I know?
Speaker 2: I don't know what Peter looked like.
Speaker 3: All I know is that if you can, I want
Speaker 3: to know that Jesus was blonde and blue eyed.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 3: You're Mormon, yeah, or you watch any of the nineteen
Speaker 3: fifty sixties Bible films.
Speaker 2: Anyway, nineteen eighty three, the big change took place.
Speaker 3: In the Apostolic the Apostolic Constitution Divinus, Perfectionists, magester of
Speaker 3: Pope John Paul the Second. It all changed, but the
Speaker 3: basic rules have not changed. And here is what happens.
Speaker 3: The servant of God, which is actually a position. A
Speaker 3: bishop with jurisdiction gives permission to open up an investigation
Speaker 3: into the virtues of an individual nominated to be a saint.
Speaker 2: But there has to be beatification first.
Speaker 3: That usually happens no sooner than five years after the death,
Speaker 3: although a pope can weigh that, and you can do
Speaker 3: it sooner than that. The pope can open a process
Speaker 3: on his own, he's allowed to do that, but usually
Speaker 3: it's a bishop who does that. And then an exhaustive
Speaker 3: search of the candidate's writing, speeches, sermons undertaken, A detailed
Speaker 3: biography is written, eyewitness accounts are collected, and here is
Speaker 3: the big one, and that is, after the death of
Speaker 3: someone who has been nominated for sainthood, if it is
Speaker 3: verified that two miracles have taken place, while invoking the
Speaker 3: name of that person that saint to be that is
Speaker 3: considered enough. So you need two miracles. Inevitably, there are
Speaker 3: always medical miracles of someone who had was dying of
Speaker 3: some disorder, some disease, who the doctors have written off,
Speaker 3: who have prayed to the proposed saint and have survived
Speaker 3: and come out the other end in great shape, and
Speaker 3: it's attributed to that.
Speaker 2: It's attributed to the saint.
Speaker 3: To be two of them, and they have to be
Speaker 3: absolutely proven, prove well proven that they they were cured.
Speaker 3: Now spontaneous cures, I don't know if that ever happens,
Speaker 3: where people unexplatedly gets cured who are Mormon or who
Speaker 3: are Buddhists and somehow.
Speaker 2: They get cured. But in the Catholic religion you got
Speaker 2: two of those.
Speaker 3: I want to point something out too, and that is
Speaker 3: I have never seen a Catholic person pray for and
Speaker 3: get a limb to be resurrected, lose a limb in
Speaker 3: a car accident, praying for the limb to come back
Speaker 3: and it comes back.
Speaker 2: That is a miracle. You grow another, you grow another limb.
Speaker 2: Middle name Salamander.
Speaker 4: There was a there was a Protestant you know one
Speaker 4: of these healers one time who had a comb over,
Speaker 4: and it used to crack me up because I'm like,
Speaker 4: you can't even heal your own baldness, and you're trying
Speaker 4: to grow people's legs.
Speaker 2: Yes, by the way, I mean this, this miracle stuff
Speaker 2: is crazy.
Speaker 3: You know, during a passover we talk about the ten plagues,
Speaker 3: right that God visited on Egypt. He turned the Nile
Speaker 3: into red. Every March fourteenth or seventeenth, you go to Chicago,
Speaker 3: the Chicago river turns green. Okay, great, And how about
Speaker 3: turning a staff right, a stick into a snake. Any
Speaker 3: half assed magician can pull that one off. Now, if
Speaker 3: Moses had said, you see that mountain over there, Pharaoh,
Speaker 3: watch it move to the other end of the horizon.
Speaker 3: That's a miracle. That would piss me off. Then I
Speaker 3: would go, Okay, you got me on that one.
Speaker 1: Copperfield did the Statue of Liberties.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, that's true. In any case, you're going
Speaker 3: to see. I guarantee you Francis is going to be
Speaker 3: nominated as a saint, and that will happen five years
Speaker 3: from a couple of days ago when he died.
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Speaker 2: Tate morning, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 5: Good morning, Thanks, good morning.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me introduce you as before you jump into it.
Speaker 3: To everybody, everybody's heard of craft beers, of course, particularly
Speaker 3: here in southern California, and everybody has heard of non
Speaker 3: alcoholic beers, and non alcoholic beers are disgusting and who
Speaker 3: the hell drinks them.
Speaker 2: While craft beers are great.
Speaker 3: And what Tate did is combine the two craft non
Speaker 3: alcoholic beers. And so let's start talking about your company,
Speaker 3: best day brewing, how it happened, why, And I'm assuming
Speaker 3: it is a success, otherwise you wouldn't be here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's a really great introduction. Kause pretty much
Speaker 6: sums up exactly why I stumbled into this category.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I really love beer.
Speaker 6: I love the way that it brings people together from
Speaker 6: park a lot of years after surfing, you know, I
Speaker 6: pray ski and if you're at a music show, whatever.
Speaker 6: And I love the way that it serves a real
Speaker 6: role in our culture. And I found personally when I
Speaker 6: was in my twenties, the equation was really easy, right.
Speaker 6: It's just like rig and repeat. You can do as
Speaker 6: much as you want and then you wake up and
Speaker 6: you start all over again. And and for me, when
Speaker 6: I ran out of the corner into my thirties, that
Speaker 6: calculus started to change.
Speaker 5: You know, Basically, the hangover started stinging a.
Speaker 6: Little more, and I was doing less and less.
Speaker 5: Of all the things that I love doing here in California.
Speaker 6: And so the very serendipitous thing that happened in my
Speaker 6: life was my father in law. He would come over
Speaker 6: and he would bring over a six pack of o'duels,
Speaker 6: which is kind of directly to your point, and he
Speaker 6: would choke down one and park the other five in
Speaker 6: my fridge. And as someone who really loves craft beer,
Speaker 6: you know, I'd open up my fridge and see the
Speaker 6: beers that I love drinking, which have four percent, six percent,
Speaker 6: nine percent, and then see the oduels next to it,
Speaker 6: and I just thought like, well, what if I could
Speaker 6: make a great tasting craft beer that has no alcohol?
Speaker 6: Why does the spectrum have to stop at low alcohol?
Speaker 6: You know, if I could go to no alcohol make
Speaker 6: a great tasting beer. Man, there's a there's a lot
Speaker 6: of use cases in my life, and that's.
Speaker 3: Because you know, we don't have that much time tape.
Speaker 3: But let me let me throw some questions at you. Uh,
Speaker 3: how is the brewing different with non alcoholic beers?
Speaker 5: Great question, Well, that's the big hurdle, right.
Speaker 6: It turns out it's really difficult and complicated to make
Speaker 6: a great tasting non alcoholic beer. A lot of beer,
Speaker 6: a lot of people do things differently. And what we
Speaker 6: do is we through a full strength beer so it's
Speaker 6: got all the flavors, all the aroma, and then we
Speaker 6: use a specific piece of technology that extracts the alcohol
Speaker 6: without messing with the beer. And that's a process that's
Speaker 6: never been done before.
Speaker 2: All right, is that your process? Is that proprietary?
Speaker 6: Okay, so that's not proprietary, but we are one of
Speaker 6: the only brands that are using it.
Speaker 2: Got it? And you started this when this company.
Speaker 5: We started in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3: All right, so you're only three years old and I'm
Speaker 3: reading here that you are on Amazon no surprise, but
Speaker 3: also Whole Foods, Trader Joe s, Kroger, Albertson, Safeway, I mean,
Speaker 3: on and on Target, Sprouts.
Speaker 2: That is not easy to do. How were you able
Speaker 2: to get into these stores.
Speaker 3: That quickly, because if you know retailing, that's that's a
Speaker 3: miracle that you were able to pull that off.
Speaker 5: Well, I think it speaks to you know a couple
Speaker 5: of things.
Speaker 6: As you know that the category is on fire, and
Speaker 6: I think that you know, though there have been decades
Speaker 6: of perception of what non alcohol has been, you know,
Speaker 6: as as people taste our beer, as people experience our brand,
Speaker 6: and as people share that through word of mouth, that
Speaker 6: has really accelerated things with this category. And the retailers
Speaker 6: have really shown up in a big way to to
Speaker 6: really step into this category and show that it's something
Speaker 6: completely different than what it has been in the past.
Speaker 2: Give me some flavors that you are producing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So our number one cellar is our kulsh It's
Speaker 6: a light, crisp, refreshing German style beer.
Speaker 5: We make a.
Speaker 6: Fresh line infused Mexican lagger We've got a lineup of
Speaker 6: really awesome I pas too. So we're bringing the full
Speaker 6: craft beer experience to the non alcoholic category.
Speaker 2: Any smoke mackerel beer.
Speaker 6: Not yet, not yet.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that would be a big, big seller.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you know, I'm fascinated by how you were
Speaker 3: able to pull this off because you don't have a
Speaker 3: background in this industry. Do you just came onto this
Speaker 3: and decided you saw what was going on and you
Speaker 3: went for it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you're right. I do not have a background
Speaker 6: other than being a beer drinker. That's the extent of
Speaker 6: my experience in beer. And so you know, as this
Speaker 6: this concept was crystallizing, and really the opportunity for the
Speaker 6: brand was was really coming to life. You know, I
Speaker 6: made a commitment to surround myself with really smart people
Speaker 6: who also understood the opportunity but that but who did
Speaker 6: have experience in beverage and in beer and who had
Speaker 6: built big things. And you know, I credit all of
Speaker 6: the success that we've had and all of our ability
Speaker 6: to move quickly to this incredible team that I've surrounded
Speaker 6: myself with.
Speaker 3: Okay, the company's name is Best Day Brewing. You can
Speaker 3: go to Best Daybrewing dot Com, go to Amazon, Whole Foods,
Speaker 3: Trader Joe's, Kroger's, Albertson's. I mean, it just goes on
Speaker 3: and on.
Speaker 2: Best Day Brewing dot Com, Tate, thanks for joining us,
Speaker 2: good luck, hope you make buckets of money on this.
Speaker 5: For care of Bill. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 3: Jack in the Box announced plans to close one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty to two hundred under performing stores as part
Speaker 3: of their Jack on track. I have no idea why
Speaker 3: they're calling it that, but I have to like Jack
Speaker 3: in the Box. Remember the clown that used to, you know,
Speaker 3: jump out of the Jack in the Box.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: The other day I went to a pharmacy.
Speaker 3: A drive through, and I ordered a burger with fries
Speaker 3: and a large die of coke, and the lady said,
Speaker 3: we're a pharmacy.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, Now.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you what's going on in the world
Speaker 3: of California Government and Politics. There's a bill that was
Speaker 3: introduced to reduce the energy credits given to homeowners who
Speaker 3: have solar panels, particularly those who have solar panels put
Speaker 3: in before April fifteen, twenty twenty three, which I did,
Speaker 3: and what it says is the credits that these solar
Speaker 3: system owners are getting, and before twenty twenty three, you
Speaker 3: would sell if you didn't use all the electricity, which
Speaker 3: you didn't during the day because that's when electricity was
Speaker 3: obviously plentiful and the panels produced a bunch of it,
Speaker 3: would go back to the utility, would go back to
Speaker 3: the grid, and you would be paid for that electricity. Well,
Speaker 3: there are a few people out there that are going,
Speaker 3: wait a minute here, because here's the bottom line. If
Speaker 3: you are selling back to the grid, then what's happening
Speaker 3: is the people who don't have solar are subsidizing your electricity,
Speaker 3: and that is unfair. And the utilities are saying, we
Speaker 3: don't want to pay for electricity from you guys. We're
Speaker 3: not interested. But it's the law. So who introduced this
Speaker 3: bill Assembly Bill nine two to slash the credits for
Speaker 3: people who install these solar systems before April fifteenth of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. Well, there's an Assembly member by the
Speaker 3: name of Lisa Calderon who is there to help the
Speaker 3: public and wants the those people who don't have solar
Speaker 3: to just have a better break. Now, the fact that
Speaker 3: she worked for Southern California Edison for twenty five years
Speaker 3: before she was elected has nothing to do with it,
Speaker 3: even though it's a bill that clearly Southern California Electric
Speaker 3: and other utilities are in favor of.
Speaker 2: For years, Edison and the other too big for.
Speaker 3: Profit utilities have tried to reduce these energy credits that
Speaker 3: incentivized US Californians to invest in solar panels, which is
Speaker 3: exactly what I did, and that's why I did it. Well,
Speaker 3: these rooftop systems have reduced utility sales of electricity.
Speaker 2: They're not selling enough.
Speaker 3: Why because we have solar and we're forcing them to
Speaker 3: pay us under this bill. And so there's two sides
Speaker 3: on this one. You have the utilities. You have people
Speaker 3: who sell solar systems, and on the other side you
Speaker 3: have Free Sample, the electrical workers, the union that installs
Speaker 3: solar systems. And then you have folks on the other
Speaker 3: side who are saying it is so unfair for the
Speaker 3: non solar owners to subsidize those that have solar systems
Speaker 3: because they're paying more for electricity then they would be
Speaker 3: if the people that own solar systems didn't get all
Speaker 3: these breaks. All right, Well that's the fight that's going
Speaker 3: to go on. And then of course you have the
Speaker 3: environmentalists who are in the freight arguing that we want
Speaker 3: solar systems because with a solar system you're not burning
Speaker 3: fossil fuels. Could remember, our power comes from gas powered plants,
Speaker 3: these power plants which are fossil fuel powered. Well, if
Speaker 3: you have and I don't know, I think what a
Speaker 3: third of California?
Speaker 2: Is that true?
Speaker 3: What percentage and what percentage of California has a solar
Speaker 3: system alternate energy? She's looking it up right now. See
Speaker 3: I wish I knew that, and I should have known that.
Speaker 3: And as soon as Anne tells me, I'm going to
Speaker 3: say I absolutely knew that.
Speaker 2: She's asking Siri. I should have asked Siri.
Speaker 3: The point is, whatever percentage of Californians are using solar? Okay,
Speaker 3: Well there's I said thirty, So I'll take thirty because
Speaker 3: it makes my argument even stronger. So let's say we
Speaker 3: have twenty eight we have thirty percent of Californians using
Speaker 3: solar alternate energy, solar being a huge amount of that,
Speaker 3: and that means that they're not using fossil fuels, which
Speaker 3: means that utilities want to sell their electricity have to
Speaker 3: produce their electricity with fossil fuel plants power plants. And
Speaker 3: there is the fight with the environmentalists. If you care
Speaker 3: about the environment and think that fossil fuels is causing
Speaker 3: a lot of this climate change, well then you're gonna
Speaker 3: be on the side of keeping the incentives and making
Speaker 3: sure that the people who have solar power it makes
Speaker 3: sense for them financially. Now the other argument is it
Speaker 3: already makes sense financially whether you get the credit or not.
Speaker 2: And yeah, that makes sense. And by the way, they're
Speaker 2: now three tiers.
Speaker 3: I put in my first solar system before twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: and so I was on that level Tier one, which
Speaker 3: means I sell back to the grid and so not
Speaker 3: only do I not pay for electricity, I make money
Speaker 3: on my solar panels, or the new owners do because
Speaker 3: it's transferred over. Then there's tier two, and then I
Speaker 3: just built mine, which is a reduced amount, and then
Speaker 3: Tier three where you get nothing and all you get
Speaker 3: is the energy. I'm fine with that, whether I get
Speaker 3: nothing or not. I'm not paying for electricity. That's enough
Speaker 3: for me, so I have no problem with that, the
Speaker 3: bottom line and the assembly member. What I like about
Speaker 3: Lisa Calderon is she is completely objective about this, as
Speaker 3: she only worked for twenty five years for Edison and
Speaker 3: is not trying to save Edison's ass at all.
Speaker 2: How much money do you think Edison gave her for
Speaker 2: her campaign? Huh? All right?
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