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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>KFI Handle here.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a Thursday morning, April twenty four. A couple

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<v Speaker 3>things before we jump into how the California economy is

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<v Speaker 3>doing and it's good news, which I don't understand this

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<v Speaker 3>but so be it.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, some.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the trending stories we're looking at. Oh, here's one,

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<v Speaker 3>Neil your wheelhouse. Jack in the Box announced plan to

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<v Speaker 3>close one hundred and fifty to two hundred underperforming stores.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a financial plan they're calling Jack on track. Originally

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna call it the Clown is Dying, but that

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<v Speaker 3>one didn't work out.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jack in the Box harder sell. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>harder cell.

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<v Speaker 3>Also a quick word about Friday, where we do Ask

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<v Speaker 3>Handle Anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>We started a thirty on Friday morning and you ask

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<v Speaker 3>me questions about whatever the hell, and that came out

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<v Speaker 3>of the fact that everybody here on the station is

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<v Speaker 3>asked about everybody here on the station. What's John like,

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<v Speaker 3>what's Tim Conway like, what's Neil like? And I get

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<v Speaker 3>those questions and you get those questions. So Ask Handle

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<v Speaker 3>Anything is a thirty Friday morning you get to record

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<v Speaker 3>the questions during the show. Go to the iHeartRadio app

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<v Speaker 3>and the iHeart app and then click onto KFI and

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<v Speaker 3>Click onto that and record your question. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>care what question you ask. You know, I'm pretty open

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<v Speaker 3>about life. It's just kind of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, some news about the California economy. The governor announced

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday that we are now number four in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the United States economy is first a twenty

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<v Speaker 3>nine trillion, China eighteen trillion, Germany at four point sixty

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<v Speaker 3>five trillion, and we are that we are next to

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<v Speaker 3>the at Our economy is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>It's growing.

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<v Speaker 3>And let me ask you, how does the economy grow

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<v Speaker 3>when you have businesses leaving California. I can't think of

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<v Speaker 3>the last time a major business came to or came

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<v Speaker 3>back to California. You can't afford housing in California. The

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<v Speaker 3>taxes are crazy in California. Oh, I know how we

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<v Speaker 3>do it. What we do is we market our traffic

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<v Speaker 3>because people from all over the world want to come

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<v Speaker 3>in California, California and live with our traffic. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>get it newsome attributed to a growing population, record tourism

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<v Speaker 3>spending coupled with a high concentration of venture capital and

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<v Speaker 3>new business ventures. I guess that's really where it's at.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we do have agriculture big time, until illegal

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<v Speaker 3>migrants will no longer be allowed to work in this

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<v Speaker 3>country and then our agricultural sector completely disappears. High tech centers,

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<v Speaker 3>we have a lot of those manufacturing centers. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>think we were that big on manufacturing. I know, agriculture

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<v Speaker 3>we are. Oh, how about the film and television industry.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we're losing We are losing centers, and we

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<v Speaker 3>are losing productions like crazy because they're going out of state,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, for the life of me, I do

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<v Speaker 2>not understand it.

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<v Speaker 3>In the meantime, California, as well as many other states

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<v Speaker 3>or several other states, have filed a lawsuit against the

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<v Speaker 3>administration challenging Trump's executive authority to enact international tariffs. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people don't like those tariffs because well, frankly,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to cost the consumer a bucket of money,

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<v Speaker 3>and the major stores are in a lot of trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though Trump exempted a.

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<v Speaker 3>Certain sector from that one hundred and forty five tariff

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<v Speaker 3>against China. What he exempted was the big ticket electronic

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<v Speaker 3>items computers and chips, etc. Leaving everything else in. So

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<v Speaker 3>what happens with the meeting of the president's CEO of

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<v Speaker 3>Walmart and Target. They went to him and saying, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, We're gonna have empty shelves.

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<v Speaker 2>You can kiss our stores goodbye. Oops. Oops. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 3>The lawsuit is not to somehow lower the.

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<v Speaker 2>Lower the tariffs.

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<v Speaker 3>This lawsuit, as well as many other lawsuits that are

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<v Speaker 3>going to be flying, has to do with the president's

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<v Speaker 3>authority to do that unilaterally.

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<v Speaker 2>Usually in all of these cases.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I'm digressing a little bit, but the fact

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<v Speaker 3>is we're number four, Okay, thank you. Now the tariffs

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<v Speaker 3>which they kick in are going to be very difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>California will not be number four because we rely so

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<v Speaker 3>much on importing of goods, particularly from Asia, particularly from China,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly Korea, Vietnam. So it's gonna get really interesting. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>see what happens. This is all Supreme Court stuff. By

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<v Speaker 3>the way, all these cases Supreme Court cases. How much

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<v Speaker 3>is the president? What kind of power the President has bill.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the California economy made on?

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<v Speaker 4>Is that based on our taxes as well as is

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<v Speaker 4>that income to the state.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, but that is that's not the state generating income. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>employees are part of the economy. State employees are part

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<v Speaker 3>of the economy, and they're big. But it's what we produce,

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<v Speaker 3>services and goods that we produce.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the economy.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's agriculture, and it's aerospace, and it's manufacturing, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's high tech. Agricultural is based on well, fifty percent

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm just throwing this figure out, but I think

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<v Speaker 3>is pretty close. Fifty percent of the workers are the migrants,

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<v Speaker 3>illegal migrants, and now the high tech people. Okay, that's

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<v Speaker 3>obviously people who are here legally. And that's the other

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<v Speaker 3>issue with the visas, the tech visas that are going

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<v Speaker 3>on that the President wants to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a mess.

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<v Speaker 3>But the bottom line is California, counterintuitively is number.

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<v Speaker 2>Four in the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Now it's probably going to go back to five in

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<v Speaker 3>the world because you've got India that's moving very quickly

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<v Speaker 3>in our direction.

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<v Speaker 2>But still four or five. What difference that make?

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<v Speaker 3>It's enormous, enormous Okay, I want to go to Pope Francis,

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<v Speaker 3>who is not only.

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<v Speaker 2>Dead, but also he is going to be made a saint.

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<v Speaker 3>I guarantee that there will be sainthood in his future.

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<v Speaker 3>Catholic Church is big on saints. John Paul the second

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<v Speaker 3>is a saint. John the twenty third is a saint.

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<v Speaker 3>Now the act of canonization may someone becoming a saint?

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<v Speaker 2>The Pope does that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the Holy See, and there there is a long

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<v Speaker 3>process to be made a saint, and there are people

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<v Speaker 3>already starting to work on it. Extensive proof that the

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<v Speaker 3>candidate for canonization lived and died in such an exemplary

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<v Speaker 3>and holy way worthy to be recognized as a saint.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, that's Francis.

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<v Speaker 3>And it implies that the person is now in heaven

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe publicly invoked and mentioned officially in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Liturgy of the Church.

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<v Speaker 3>And you could allow universal veneration of a saint, but

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<v Speaker 3>to venerate someone locally only Beautif beatification is needed, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Be beatified, that's only local.

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<v Speaker 3>How is I going to compare Remember I told you

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to compare handle on the law to

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<v Speaker 3>Pope Francis being a saint. Here it is okay. If

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<v Speaker 3>he is only beatified, he can only be venerated locally.

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<v Speaker 3>If he is sainted, it is across the Handle on

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<v Speaker 3>the Law is both a local show as well as

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<v Speaker 3>a national show. So the local part of Handle on

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<v Speaker 3>the Law can only be beautified, the national part can

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<v Speaker 3>be sainted. That I actually say that my legal show

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<v Speaker 3>deserves sainthood. Only the people that listen to it deserve sainthood.

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<v Speaker 2>So some of the rules and the rules.

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<v Speaker 3>Go crazy on canonization and they started. Actually sainthood's been

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<v Speaker 3>going on for almost two thousand years in the Catholic Church,

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<v Speaker 3>and it changed from zero.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think who was the first saint? Would it

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<v Speaker 2>have been Peter? I don't know who is it? Those

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<v Speaker 2>crucified upside down?

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<v Speaker 1>That would be Peter?

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<v Speaker 2>Would that be Peter?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, got it. Are there portraits of Peter.

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<v Speaker 1>Cruci fight to upside down? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Well then you only have portraits of feet. But are

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<v Speaker 3>there portraits Peter? I remember seeing them?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course there's Okay, what do I know?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what Peter looked like.

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<v Speaker 3>All I know is that if you can, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to know that Jesus was blonde and blue eyed.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're Mormon, yeah, or you watch any of the nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>fifty sixties Bible films.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, nineteen eighty three, the big change took place.

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<v Speaker 3>In the Apostolic the Apostolic Constitution Divinus, Perfectionists, magester of

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<v Speaker 3>Pope John Paul the Second. It all changed, but the

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<v Speaker 3>basic rules have not changed. And here is what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>The servant of God, which is actually a position. A

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<v Speaker 3>bishop with jurisdiction gives permission to open up an investigation

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<v Speaker 3>into the virtues of an individual nominated to be a saint.

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<v Speaker 2>But there has to be beatification first.

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<v Speaker 3>That usually happens no sooner than five years after the death,

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<v Speaker 3>although a pope can weigh that, and you can do

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<v Speaker 3>it sooner than that. The pope can open a process

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<v Speaker 3>on his own, he's allowed to do that, but usually

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<v Speaker 3>it's a bishop who does that. And then an exhaustive

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<v Speaker 3>search of the candidate's writing, speeches, sermons undertaken, A detailed

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<v Speaker 3>biography is written, eyewitness accounts are collected, and here is

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<v Speaker 3>the big one, and that is, after the death of

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<v Speaker 3>someone who has been nominated for sainthood, if it is

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<v Speaker 3>verified that two miracles have taken place, while invoking the

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<v Speaker 3>name of that person that saint to be that is

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<v Speaker 3>considered enough. So you need two miracles. Inevitably, there are

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<v Speaker 3>always medical miracles of someone who had was dying of

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<v Speaker 3>some disorder, some disease, who the doctors have written off,

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<v Speaker 3>who have prayed to the proposed saint and have survived

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<v Speaker 3>and come out the other end in great shape, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's attributed to that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's attributed to the saint.

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<v Speaker 3>To be two of them, and they have to be

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely proven, prove well proven that they they were cured.

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<v Speaker 3>Now spontaneous cures, I don't know if that ever happens,

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<v Speaker 3>where people unexplatedly gets cured who are Mormon or who

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<v Speaker 3>are Buddhists and somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>They get cured. But in the Catholic religion you got

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<v Speaker 2>two of those.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to point something out too, and that is

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<v Speaker 3>I have never seen a Catholic person pray for and

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<v Speaker 3>get a limb to be resurrected, lose a limb in

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<v Speaker 3>a car accident, praying for the limb to come back

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<v Speaker 3>and it comes back.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a miracle. You grow another, you grow another limb.

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<v Speaker 2>Middle name Salamander.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a there was a Protestant you know one

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<v Speaker 4>of these healers one time who had a comb over,

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<v Speaker 4>and it used to crack me up because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't even heal your own baldness, and you're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to grow people's legs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, by the way, I mean this, this miracle stuff

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<v Speaker 2>is crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, during a passover we talk about the ten plagues,

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<v Speaker 3>right that God visited on Egypt. He turned the Nile

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<v Speaker 2>Tate morning, thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning, Thanks, good morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let me introduce you as before you jump into it.

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<v Speaker 3>To everybody, everybody's heard of craft beers, of course, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>alcoholic beers, and non alcoholic beers are disgusting and who

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<v Speaker 2>While craft beers are great.

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<v Speaker 3>And what Tate did is combine the two craft non

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<v Speaker 3>alcoholic beers. And so let's start talking about your company,

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<v Speaker 3>best day brewing, how it happened, why, And I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well that's a really great introduction. Kause pretty much

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<v Speaker 6>sums up exactly why I stumbled into this category.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I really love beer.

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<v Speaker 6>I love the way that it brings people together from

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<v Speaker 6>It's just like rig and repeat. You can do as

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<v Speaker 5>You know, Basically, the hangover started stinging a.

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<v Speaker 6>Little more, and I was doing less and less.

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<v Speaker 5>Of all the things that I love doing here in California.

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<v Speaker 6>And so the very serendipitous thing that happened in my

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<v Speaker 6>and he would bring over a six pack of o'duels,

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<v Speaker 6>which is kind of directly to your point, and he

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I'd open up my fridge and see the

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<v Speaker 6>beers that I love drinking, which have four percent, six percent,

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<v Speaker 6>and I just thought like, well, what if I could

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<v Speaker 6>make a great tasting craft beer that has no alcohol?

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<v Speaker 6>Why does the spectrum have to stop at low alcohol?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, if I could go to no alcohol make

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<v Speaker 3>Because you know, we don't have that much time tape.

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<v Speaker 3>But let me let me throw some questions at you. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>how is the brewing different with non alcoholic beers?

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<v Speaker 5>Great question, Well, that's the big hurdle, right.

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<v Speaker 6>It turns out it's really difficult and complicated to make

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of people do things differently. And what we

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<v Speaker 6>do is we through a full strength beer so it's

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<v Speaker 6>got all the flavors, all the aroma, and then we

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<v Speaker 6>use a specific piece of technology that extracts the alcohol

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<v Speaker 6>without messing with the beer. And that's a process that's

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<v Speaker 6>never been done before.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, is that your process? Is that proprietary?

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, so that's not proprietary, but we are one of

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<v Speaker 2>Got it? And you started this when this company.

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<v Speaker 5>We started in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, so you're only three years old and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>reading here that you are on Amazon no surprise, but

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<v Speaker 3>also Whole Foods, Trader Joe s, Kroger, Albertson, Safeway, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>That is not easy to do. How were you able

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<v Speaker 3>That quickly, because if you know retailing, that's that's a

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<v Speaker 3>miracle that you were able to pull that off.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I think it speaks to you know a couple

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<v Speaker 6>As you know that the category is on fire, and

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<v Speaker 6>I think that you know, though there have been decades

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<v Speaker 6>of perception of what non alcohol has been, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>as as people taste our beer, as people experience our brand,

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<v Speaker 6>and as people share that through word of mouth, that

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<v Speaker 6>has really accelerated things with this category. And the retailers

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<v Speaker 6>have really shown up in a big way to to

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<v Speaker 2>Give me some flavors that you are producing.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, So our number one cellar is our kulsh It's

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<v Speaker 6>a light, crisp, refreshing German style beer.

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<v Speaker 6>Fresh line infused Mexican lagger We've got a lineup of

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<v Speaker 2>Any smoke mackerel beer.

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<v Speaker 6>Not yet, not yet.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you that would be a big, big seller.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, you know, I'm fascinated by how you were

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, you're right. I do not have a background

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<v Speaker 6>other than being a beer drinker. That's the extent of

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<v Speaker 6>my experience in beer. And so you know, as this

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<v Speaker 6>this concept was crystallizing, and really the opportunity for the

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<v Speaker 6>brand was was really coming to life. You know, I

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<v Speaker 6>made a commitment to surround myself with really smart people

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<v Speaker 6>who also understood the opportunity but that but who did

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<v Speaker 6>have experience in beverage and in beer and who had

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<v Speaker 6>built big things. And you know, I credit all of

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, the company's name is Best Day Brewing. You can

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<v Speaker 3>go to Best Daybrewing dot Com, go to Amazon, Whole Foods,

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<v Speaker 3>Trader Joe's, Kroger's, Albertson's. I mean, it just goes on

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<v Speaker 3>and on.

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<v Speaker 2>Best Day Brewing dot Com, Tate, thanks for joining us,

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<v Speaker 2>good luck, hope you make buckets of money on this.

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<v Speaker 5>For care of Bill. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fun to do successful scratch again. All right? Lot

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<v Speaker 2>going on today?

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<v Speaker 3>Jack in the Box announced plans to close one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty to two hundred under performing stores as part

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<v Speaker 3>they're calling it that, but I have to like Jack

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<v Speaker 3>in the Box. Remember the clown that used to, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The other day I went to a pharmacy.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, Now.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you what's going on in the world

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<v Speaker 3>of California Government and Politics. There's a bill that was

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<v Speaker 3>and what it says is the credits that these solar

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<v Speaker 3>obviously plentiful and the panels produced a bunch of it,

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<v Speaker 3>wait a minute here, because here's the bottom line. If

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<v Speaker 3>is the people who don't have solar are subsidizing your electricity,

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to pay for electricity from you guys. We're

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<v Speaker 3>not interested. But it's the law. So who introduced this

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<v Speaker 3>bill Assembly Bill nine two to slash the credits for

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<v Speaker 3>people who install these solar systems before April fifteenth of

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three. Well, there's an Assembly member by the

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<v Speaker 3>name of Lisa Calderon who is there to help the

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<v Speaker 3>public and wants the those people who don't have solar

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<v Speaker 3>to just have a better break. Now, the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>she worked for Southern California Edison for twenty five years

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<v Speaker 3>even though it's a bill that clearly Southern California Electric

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<v Speaker 3>and other utilities are in favor of.

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<v Speaker 2>For years, Edison and the other too big for.

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<v Speaker 3>Profit utilities have tried to reduce these energy credits that

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<v Speaker 3>incentivized US Californians to invest in solar panels, which is

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what I did, and that's why I did it. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>these rooftop systems have reduced utility sales of electricity.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not selling enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Why because we have solar and we're forcing them to

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<v Speaker 3>pay us under this bill. And so there's two sides

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<v Speaker 3>on this one. You have the utilities. You have people

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<v Speaker 3>because they're paying more for electricity then they would be

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<v Speaker 3>these breaks. All right, Well that's the fight that's going

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<v Speaker 3>environmentalists who are in the freight arguing that we want

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<v Speaker 3>fossil fuels. Could remember, our power comes from gas powered plants,

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<v Speaker 3>these power plants which are fossil fuel powered. Well, if

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<v Speaker 2>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 3>What percentage and what percentage of California has a solar

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I knew that, and I should have known that.

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<v Speaker 3>And as soon as Anne tells me, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>say I absolutely knew that.

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<v Speaker 2>She's asking Siri. I should have asked Siri.

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<v Speaker 3>The point is, whatever percentage of Californians are using solar? Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Well there's I said thirty, So I'll take thirty because

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<v Speaker 3>it makes my argument even stronger. So let's say we

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<v Speaker 3>have twenty eight we have thirty percent of Californians using

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<v Speaker 3>solar alternate energy, solar being a huge amount of that,

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<v Speaker 3>and that means that they're not using fossil fuels, which

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<v Speaker 3>means that utilities want to sell their electricity have to

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<v Speaker 3>produce their electricity with fossil fuel plants power plants. And

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<v Speaker 3>there is the fight with the environmentalists. If you care

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<v Speaker 3>about the environment and think that fossil fuels is causing

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of this climate change, well then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be on the side of keeping the incentives and making

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<v Speaker 3>sure that the people who have solar power it makes

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<v Speaker 3>sense for them financially. Now the other argument is it

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<v Speaker 3>already makes sense financially whether you get the credit or not.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, that makes sense. And by the way, they're

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<v Speaker 2>now three tiers.

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<v Speaker 3>I put in my first solar system before twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 3>and so I was on that level Tier one, which

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<v Speaker 3>means I sell back to the grid and so not

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<v Speaker 3>only do I not pay for electricity, I make money

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<v Speaker 3>on my solar panels, or the new owners do because

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<v Speaker 3>it's transferred over. Then there's tier two, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>just built mine, which is a reduced amount, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Tier three where you get nothing and all you get

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<v Speaker 3>is the energy. I'm fine with that, whether I get

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<v Speaker 3>nothing or not. I'm not paying for electricity. That's enough

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<v Speaker 3>for me, so I have no problem with that, the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom line and the assembly member. What I like about

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<v Speaker 3>Lisa Calderon is she is completely objective about this, as

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<v Speaker 3>she only worked for twenty five years for Edison and

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<v Speaker 3>is not trying to save Edison's ass at all.

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<v Speaker 2>How much money do you think Edison gave her for

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<v Speaker 2>her campaign? Huh? All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Coming out Joel Larsgard how to Money has heard Sunday

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