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<v Speaker 1>Today, I want to tell you about a journey that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on for most of my life. Ever since

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<v Speaker 1>I was a kid, I've heard tales of bigfoot and

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<v Speaker 1>wild men while spending time with my friends and family.

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<v Speaker 1>As I grew older and read more about the paranormal,

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<v Speaker 1>my interest in encryptids and other things strange only deepened.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I'm so excited to share with you what

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going

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<v Speaker 2>on here. Something just kid with my dog. Something killed

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<v Speaker 2>your dog, my dog. We're flying through there, over the tree.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how it did it, Okay, damn, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over

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<v Speaker 2>the fence, and name was dead once you hit the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my

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<v Speaker 2>dog coming over the fence. Are you reporting we got

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<v Speaker 2>some wonder or something crawling around out here? Did you

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<v Speaker 2>see what it was? It was enough out here. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm new to onedow now and I don't need anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go outside. Frank, Hello, hit the

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<v Speaker 2>fuddy out here. Quote on Melter, I thought of a

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<v Speaker 2>bitch about tech foot nine. I don't know em Melter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm walking right, heady, all right, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>On, welcome our guest to the show. It is Shannon

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<v Speaker 1>from Into the Free. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Brian. I'm very happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a long time coming. I very rarely

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<v Speaker 1>get nervous. I don't even know if nervous is the word.

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<v Speaker 1>I listened to you on the very first podcast that

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<v Speaker 1>I ever got into, back in the day one Sasquatch Chronicle,

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<v Speaker 1>So I have known you in air quotes for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. So it's always really cool to hear somebody

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<v Speaker 1>on a podcast or meet them out somewhere and then

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<v Speaker 1>have them on the show. I am glad to have

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<v Speaker 1>you here. I feel like this has been a long

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<v Speaker 1>time coming. I'm excited about this conversation. Let's get into

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<v Speaker 1>the bigfoot thing. What in the hell got you interested

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<v Speaker 1>in the subject of bigfoot to begin with?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what's funny is that I have been asked

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<v Speaker 4>this and I wish that I had a really cool answer.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'll say, right out of the gate, if you're

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<v Speaker 4>not familiar with me, I've not seen a bigfoot. So

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<v Speaker 4>if you're waiting for that story, you can just tune out.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have my own dick foot story. Unfortunately, I

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<v Speaker 4>am worthless in that category. I may I will say

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<v Speaker 4>right now, have heard bigfoot. We can talk about that later,

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<v Speaker 4>but I didn't see what I was making it, so

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<v Speaker 4>I can't make that one hundred percent claim.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't have an inception story like I saw

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<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot or a lot of people go.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a legend of Boggy Creek, and I was hooked.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't even have that. I don't even remember what

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<v Speaker 4>it was when it was. But at some point I

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<v Speaker 4>finally got onto my Facebook that I hadn't used in years.

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<v Speaker 4>I started to join all these different Facebook groups and

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<v Speaker 4>I joined the Sasquatch Chronicles, the main whatever the Facebook

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<v Speaker 4>group was back then. Actually I think it was called

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<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot Hotspot Radio because that was the original I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Interacting in there.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll what Wes at some point after I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how long reached out. He goes, would you like to

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<v Speaker 4>come on the show? I'm like, oh, I don't have

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<v Speaker 4>an account or anything. He goes, as a co host,

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like we just need another voice in the show,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it might be. And of course I said yes.

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<v Speaker 4>But then after you say yes to such a thing,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going why pick me?

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<v Speaker 3>However, it was amazing. I loved it.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved the interaction with Wes and with Will and

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<v Speaker 4>with every single person that chose to come on that show,

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<v Speaker 4>and some of them I still talk to those people,

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<v Speaker 4>like Tracy. Tracy was the gentleman that urinated on a

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<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot out of the side of his vand if folks

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<v Speaker 4>will remember him, he's come on itf since that was

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<v Speaker 4>how I got started in the podcasting side, so I

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<v Speaker 4>don't have a cool story about how I got into Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 3>I just finally was.

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<v Speaker 4>Going, I'm gonna let my freak flat fly get on

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<v Speaker 4>Facebook interact in these Bigfoot groups because I freaking love

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<v Speaker 4>bigfoot so much. It fascinates me, and I just love

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<v Speaker 4>talking to people about anything that's strange, of course, but

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<v Speaker 4>Bigfoot isn't something that I have seen. I've seen a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of other things that's weird, but not Bigfoot, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 4>I got my start in Sasquatch Chronicles, and then at

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<v Speaker 4>some point West goes why don't you host your own

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<v Speaker 4>show on the side, and that was show Notes with Shannon.

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<v Speaker 4>I forget how many episodes there was by the time

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<v Speaker 4>I left Sasquatch Chronicles.

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<v Speaker 3>A good little handful people from way back still bring

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<v Speaker 3>up snoring Steve.

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<v Speaker 4>I had a gentleman that the guest was running behind,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was kind of running through calls, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is a live to air show. It was just me.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't have a moderator or somebody screening the calls,

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<v Speaker 4>and I go to this one gentleman named Steve and

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<v Speaker 4>he was sawn Locks. Of course, once it's done, you're

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<v Speaker 4>thinking of all these wonderful quips that you should have said.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, hey, Steve, you there, y, I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>whatever I said. Anyway, there were some very painful things

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<v Speaker 4>to go back and listen, even when I started into

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<v Speaker 4>the fray. As you well know, when you go back

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<v Speaker 4>and you listen to yourself in the beginning, you're like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how anyone listens to me. How did

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<v Speaker 4>I even gain a following after sounding like this, or

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<v Speaker 4>however the audio sounded, however much you interrupted the guest

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<v Speaker 4>to all those things, especially with show notes with Shannon

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<v Speaker 4>oh Man, I'm like, that was some, but you have

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<v Speaker 4>to cut your tea somewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's where I did.

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<v Speaker 4>So, Wes is the whole reason that I'm even sitting

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<v Speaker 4>here right now talking to you. He will always get

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<v Speaker 4>a huge hug and high five for me if you

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<v Speaker 4>ever wanted it to Thank you, Wes for giving me

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<v Speaker 4>that chance. That's why I'm here, and I'm very thankful

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<v Speaker 4>for it.

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<v Speaker 1>I am the same way I had a little different story.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody who's listened to the show knows my boring stories

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<v Speaker 1>about my experiences when I was a kid and what

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<v Speaker 1>got me into the subject. But I, too, like you,

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<v Speaker 1>got in to the podcasting world Sasquatch Chronicles was the

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<v Speaker 1>first show that I ever listened to. I started at

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<v Speaker 1>the most recent show and started working my way back.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't start with you, Wes, will and Woody

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. I did that later on after a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation I had with Wes. But I was about three

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<v Speaker 1>months into the show. Again, like you, I've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>how horrible the audio was. I started recording the show,

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<v Speaker 1>initially on my iPhone using a free I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was called riv.

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<v Speaker 3>Rev was the app? It was horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>It used to do this thing where the person that

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<v Speaker 1>you were recording I guess it was legally bound to

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<v Speaker 1>tell them phone call being recorded or recording in progress.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to cut that out. So it was a

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<v Speaker 1>beginning for me. Like everybody else in this you don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know what you're doing, so you just stumble your

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<v Speaker 1>way through it. But about three months into the show,

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<v Speaker 1>I got an email from Wes saying, hey, man, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>listen to your show. I think it's great, but your

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<v Speaker 1>audio sucks. Let me help you with your audio. So

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<v Speaker 1>we got on the phone, and after a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>hours on the phone, he gave me a list of things.

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<v Speaker 1>I still use the same board that he recommended that

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<v Speaker 1>he's been using for years, upgraded the microphone, and it

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<v Speaker 1>literally changed the audio overnight.

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<v Speaker 3>For the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've always credited Wes at least for that part

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<v Speaker 1>of the show of saying, Hey, the reason I started

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<v Speaker 1>the show because I listened to your podcast and I

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<v Speaker 1>really wanted to talk to people in the Southeastern United States.

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<v Speaker 1>I was born and raised in Georgia, so I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to people that had those kind of experiences

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<v Speaker 1>that I think I experienced when I was a kid

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<v Speaker 1>in the Southeastern United States. So I started focusing on that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it just blossomed into I couldn't believe the

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<v Speaker 1>show was listened to one hundred and twenty countries around

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and fortunately the audio improved enough that people

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<v Speaker 1>stuck with the show. But those first few episodes back

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, I think I had Jeff meldramon like

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<v Speaker 1>episode nine of the show, and I still hadn't figured

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<v Speaker 1>out what I was doing so I've had to go

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<v Speaker 1>back and try to remaster that. I haven't remastered Jeff's

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<v Speaker 1>episode yet obviously just passed away last week. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>going back and remastering that episode when I first had

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<v Speaker 1>him on. We eventually became friends and colleagues after that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I've always credited Wes with my success to some

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<v Speaker 1>degree in this because he literally changed my audio overnight.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody has that story.

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<v Speaker 1>You obviously interested in Bigfoot, You started on what eventually

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<v Speaker 1>became the number one bigfoot podcast in the world. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a great place to cut your teeth.

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<v Speaker 3>What kept you.

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<v Speaker 1>Going in the bigfoot realm? What did your research and

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<v Speaker 1>looking into the subject look like for you, and where

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<v Speaker 1>did it take you on that journey?

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<v Speaker 4>It literally was just my love for talking to people

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<v Speaker 4>and just hearing experiences that ran the gamut from straight

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<v Speaker 4>up okay now my mind is they're in the flesh

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<v Speaker 4>and blood, and then you talk to the next person

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<v Speaker 4>and there's just these little nuggets of strangeness and you're like, gosh,

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't expecting that. And even to this day, I

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<v Speaker 4>prefer people just to send me just a straight up

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<v Speaker 4>bullet point list. You can have a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>description after, but I don't even.

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<v Speaker 3>Like to know.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to know no details. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 4>there is just so much more natural that.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, at least for me. I don't do any pre.

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<v Speaker 4>Interviewing and all these other things, and that's fine if

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<v Speaker 4>that works for someone. It just doesn't for me. I

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<v Speaker 4>like to hear that stuff raw right when I'm recording.

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<v Speaker 4>It just works that way. I'm in Ohio, which the

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<v Speaker 4>Lovely grass Man is said to inhabit had Salt Fork

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<v Speaker 4>extremely skeptical of Bigfoot. Of course, I am still in

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<v Speaker 4>a way absolutely because I still need that confirmation event.

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<v Speaker 4>But I do think that they are out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyhow.

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<v Speaker 4>We go to the primitive campground actually called Bigfoot Ridge

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<v Speaker 4>at Salt Fork.

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<v Speaker 3>Very fitting.

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<v Speaker 4>We see a gentleman setting up within eyesight within this

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<v Speaker 3>He's out of this van.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an older van, and I'll just be nice about it,

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<v Speaker 4>but it looked like it was on its last leg,

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<v Speaker 4>kind of a thing. I see him set up all

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<v Speaker 4>these different items, like.

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<v Speaker 3>A well oiled machine.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just essentially the three of us in this campground

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm walking around the campground knows of the ground,

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<v Speaker 4>looking at the trees, and I can see him watching me,

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<v Speaker 4>this gentleman. Eventually he comes over and he goes, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>do you doing. I'm just oh, I'm just looking around

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<v Speaker 4>those all kinds of cool animals out here. And I go,

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<v Speaker 4>what are you doing here? He goes, I'm studying animal

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<v Speaker 4>migration patterns. I go, hluah, are you here for big foot?

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<v Speaker 4>He goes, yeah, are you I'm like yeah. It was

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<v Speaker 4>one of those high five moments nerds you night. This

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<v Speaker 4>was just over four hours away from Salt Fork.

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<v Speaker 3>He drove when he could, dang.

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<v Speaker 4>Near every weekend, over four hours one way to get there.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I think it was the year prior. I actually

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<v Speaker 4>haven't revisited this for a while. I'm sorry it was

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<v Speaker 4>quite recent. I think within a year or two is

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<v Speaker 4>quite recent. He had an experience on a service road

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<v Speaker 4>right there behind our campsite with a friend of his

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<v Speaker 4>who was an extreme skeptic. It was one of those

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<v Speaker 4>within ten to twelve feet encounters with two different size

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<v Speaker 4>big butt. The woman was absolutely terrified to where she goes. Literally,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm never going on the woods again, which is unfortunate

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<v Speaker 4>because obviously she lived over in that area.

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<v Speaker 3>Very unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 4>He however, as you well know, Brian, it's either screw

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<v Speaker 4>the woods. I'm gonna move to the desert. They might

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<v Speaker 4>come here to Vegas with me. They're done, or they

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<v Speaker 4>you just don't know where you're gonna lie with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably that's why it's always people are telling me to

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<v Speaker 4>be careful what.

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<v Speaker 3>You wish for, Shannon.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you want to see one, but you can't

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<v Speaker 4>choose your encounter and you're not going to be in

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<v Speaker 4>a tank when it happens, so you don't know it's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna go down in your head. So anyhow, he has

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<v Speaker 4>this encounter, he's there, I'm there. We start shouting away,

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<v Speaker 4>and he goes, I'm gonna go back to that same

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<v Speaker 4>spot tonight. If you guys want to join me, and

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<v Speaker 4>I have a couple different things I'm gonna try.

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<v Speaker 3>Heck, yeah, dude, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 4>We're later in the evening. If you've never been to

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<v Speaker 4>Salt Fork, the terrain changes so much depending on what

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<v Speaker 4>area of the park that you're in. In this particular area,

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<v Speaker 4>especially down this service road, you're flanked by areas, of

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<v Speaker 4>course regular trees, but then a lot of ground brush,

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<v Speaker 4>nasty stuff. You need the muchet date out to just

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<v Speaker 4>handle business if you're trying to cut a trail. Nasty

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<v Speaker 4>sitting on this for a service road. Nothing's going on.

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<v Speaker 4>We're doing a couple of whoops, a couple tree knocks,

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<v Speaker 4>and he goes, I'm gonna tie a glow stick to

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<v Speaker 4>a string and start warring this around. Crocodile dundee right,

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<v Speaker 4>making a cool noise. We're doing that. We're taking turns.

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<v Speaker 4>This is probably two am somewhere around. There could be

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<v Speaker 4>a little off on my times. I'm terrible at times

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<v Speaker 4>and dates, just so everyone knows. That's why my notes

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<v Speaker 4>out from certain dates of things and even years. So

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<v Speaker 4>swinging this around, actually it was me swinging it at

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<v Speaker 4>this time. Stop and listen. At ground level. Right next

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<v Speaker 4>to me is a single, incredibly loud, monotone whistle.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't even begin to mimic this whistle.

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<v Speaker 4>But what happened was I just in some kind of

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<v Speaker 4>an instinct, maybe not a good one, kicked in and

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<v Speaker 4>I made myself actually smaller, and I crouched down and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like listening because I could not figure out if

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<v Speaker 4>this is a person or the biggest parrot maybe that's

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<v Speaker 4>ever escaped any zoo is somehow in this brush without

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<v Speaker 4>us hearing whatever this was get in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I do not know.

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<v Speaker 4>How it is did that whatever it was, didn't see it,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't hear it again, by the way, and nothing moved.

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<v Speaker 3>Robert shining the flashlight. What did you hear? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>heard that.

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<v Speaker 4>I just probably need a diaper right now because I

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<v Speaker 4>came out of Note it's so loud.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian.

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<v Speaker 4>Even if you get something recorded, and was like, why

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't the recorder's running? Even if it was, it still

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<v Speaker 4>just doesn't do it justice if you're not there. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we didn't have a recorder going.

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<v Speaker 3>We just didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyhow, that was an account that for me, it pushed

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<v Speaker 4>my percentage rate of oh no, I think something's going

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<v Speaker 4>on here with this.

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<v Speaker 3>That pushed it up quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>The highly skeptical person with me open minded fwitza whatever

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<v Speaker 4>not really on the radar could be even He's okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I have no explanation for what made that sound, how

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<v Speaker 4>it could get in like what was this sitting there

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<v Speaker 4>all day for us to like knowingly go right there

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<v Speaker 4>to do this little cute little experiment like crocodile dundee

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<v Speaker 4>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>be right back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 3>That was wild.

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<v Speaker 4>Once that happened, then I essentially got bit a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more by the bug. I've gone to other places.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, with Wes went to the Brown property in

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<v Speaker 4>Washington State while their big footing saw an orb in

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<v Speaker 4>the woods, which actually, I'll just go ahead and say,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've said this before, seeing the orb wall bigfooting,

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<v Speaker 4>actually it ticked me off a little bit because I'm going, no,

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<v Speaker 4>this is not what we're doing out here.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys.

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<v Speaker 4>You took that weird stuff out over here, and over

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<v Speaker 4>here is bigfoot. And I'm not saying that means that

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<v Speaker 4>they're tied in any way, shape or form, but a

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<v Speaker 4>general I think Kirk Brandenburg was there with us, and

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<v Speaker 4>he had one of the top fleer thermals. At the time,

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<v Speaker 4>you have five people at two in the morning, it's

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<v Speaker 4>really raining, it's very cold. We had taken shelter in

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<v Speaker 4>this building that was going apart. It mostly had a roof,

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have all of its walls. So we see the

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<v Speaker 4>light and the light dips down. The second we all

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<v Speaker 4>saw it, it was like it went, oh, they see me.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was some strange timing at the least, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know if that's what happened. We just thought, look

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<v Speaker 4>at this drunkie out here in the rain with the

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<v Speaker 4>headlamp right he fell down, Let's go help this guy out.

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<v Speaker 3>We would have had to cross the ravine. It was close.

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<v Speaker 3>The ravine is right there.

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<v Speaker 4>At the same time that happens, someone or something again

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<v Speaker 4>didn't see it, can't say it who or what it

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<v Speaker 4>was is slapping the other buildings that are right there

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<v Speaker 4>next to us. So we're like, what in the actual

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<v Speaker 4>is going on? Who's out here screwing with us? John

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<v Speaker 4>had a very impressive weapon, very impressive. For anyone to

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<v Speaker 4>be out there screwing around just seem really not a

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<v Speaker 4>bright thing to do. Also, on that trip, we are

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<v Speaker 4>pretty much in their backyard and then the backyard opens

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<v Speaker 4>up to this valley area there's a river running through.

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<v Speaker 4>We decide to play some baby cries. I'm gonna try that,

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<v Speaker 4>so we get out. You could call it called blasting,

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<v Speaker 4>but it wasn't called blasting in my mind. Called blasting

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<v Speaker 4>is you get a speaker and you're out to the

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<v Speaker 4>heavens with this sound. We just had a phone. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 4>it's my phone or Wes's phone. We get on YouTube

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<v Speaker 4>and it's one of those whoever Macy's videos is demented,

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<v Speaker 4>but God bless them.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a twelve hour loop of a baby cry.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, well you'd need that, but hey, it worked

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<v Speaker 3>for us.

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<v Speaker 4>We hit play baby crying, baby crying forty minutes of

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<v Speaker 4>this some we're gone if this doesn't work, so we

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<v Speaker 4>need to shut this off because we're all going kuki. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>I will say before I set this up that it's

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<v Speaker 4>Washington State. We had so much gear setup that we

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<v Speaker 4>had this tar tent situation set up so things weren't

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<v Speaker 4>getting wet. It was loud out there, so we did

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<v Speaker 4>not have recorders going. There would be no point to do.

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<v Speaker 4>So playing the baby cry forty minutes in, all of

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<v Speaker 4>a sudden something comes in. It wasn't super duper close,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was close enough. And it is whooping in

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<v Speaker 4>threes wooo. It was the same cadence every single time,

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<v Speaker 4>and then Wes and I both agreed that it sounded

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<v Speaker 4>This might sound really strange to people, but it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was the best way we could describe.

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<v Speaker 4>It just sounded like a feminine whip, if there's such

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<v Speaker 4>a thing. Of course, it's interesting because it's a baby cry.

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<v Speaker 4>It continues, not constantly. They would take little breaks and

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<v Speaker 4>then the whooping would continue, and we're trying.

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<v Speaker 3>To get closer to it. But it's that weird thing

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<v Speaker 3>where you.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't quite exactly find where it's coming from. And part

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<v Speaker 4>of that could have been the topography, because right at

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<v Speaker 4>the back there's this ravine and then it opens to

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<v Speaker 4>the valley, So who knows where this thing really was Anyhow,

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<v Speaker 4>phone dies, no more whoops the moment it stops, nothing and.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't hear anything come in. We didn't hear anything leave.

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<v Speaker 4>Heck, but you know how it is being in the bush,

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<v Speaker 4>there's so many shadows, and once it's night, we are

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<v Speaker 4>not adept to that it could have been right there.

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<v Speaker 3>You're not gonna see that thing. That's when the thermal.

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<v Speaker 4>Would come in handy And I actually think that Kirk

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<v Speaker 4>was not there for that. I cannot recall exactly, but

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think he was there for that to thurn.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was interesting to go off of this whole

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<v Speaker 3>baby cry trope really quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the Olympic Project folks, Derek Randalls, has an

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<v Speaker 4>encounter story. And this dude is like a sherp, a goat.

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<v Speaker 4>He is bad to the bond. He goes out by

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<v Speaker 4>himself all the time. He does go out armed, and

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<v Speaker 4>that'll come into play. He goes out arms wherever he goes,

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<v Speaker 4>which I think is smart. Everybody should do that because animals.

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<v Speaker 4>But also, guess what's the scariest thing in the woods?

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<v Speaker 4>Other people?

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<v Speaker 3>So there you go.

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<v Speaker 5>There.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll get off my soapbox for a second. He goes

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<v Speaker 4>out six miles, seven miles something like that, into the bush.

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<v Speaker 4>He goes, you know what, and I think this is

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<v Speaker 4>way before we did any of our stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't recall when this happened. Now.

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<v Speaker 4>He actually called blasted a baby cry. Shortly after he

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<v Speaker 4>started this baby cry. There's a ravine and he's halfway

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<v Speaker 4>up this lip on the other side. On the opposite side,

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<v Speaker 4>he says, it was like a semi truck had just

424
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<v Speaker 4>started to barrel down this hillside and into the ravine

425
00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:51.799
<v Speaker 4>right at me. He's by himself. He could hear it

426
00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:54.960
<v Speaker 4>huffing and taking entire trees down with it. He could

427
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<v Speaker 4>actually see the trees moving as it's coming down. The

428
00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:01.799
<v Speaker 4>timing of things, he goes, I just assumed it would

429
00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:04.480
<v Speaker 4>stop at some point. Now at this point he had

430
00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:08.720
<v Speaker 4>already in fact, had bigfoot sightings, so it's not like

431
00:22:08.759 --> 00:22:11.319
<v Speaker 4>he was just a hiker and playing baby cries for

432
00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:15.119
<v Speaker 4>some random reason. It was for bigfoot purposes. So this

433
00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:18.319
<v Speaker 4>is definitely a be careful what you wish for. As

434
00:22:18.359 --> 00:22:22.400
<v Speaker 4>it's coming to where it's about to step out to

435
00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:24.880
<v Speaker 4>where there's a clear the ravenus clear, and then it

436
00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:27.640
<v Speaker 4>would just probably take two steps and be in his face.

437
00:22:28.279 --> 00:22:29.680
<v Speaker 3>He stops the sounds.

438
00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:32.960
<v Speaker 4>It stopped just within the tree line, and he could

439
00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:37.599
<v Speaker 4>hear it puffing and puffing because it's hissed and it

440
00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:42.160
<v Speaker 4>is stressed, and it just ran down to who knows

441
00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:45.480
<v Speaker 4>what it thought in that moment, he thought, Yeah, I've

442
00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:49.119
<v Speaker 4>got a big sidearm, but it's not going to help

443
00:22:49.200 --> 00:22:52.839
<v Speaker 4>me with whatever in the hash that is over there.

444
00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:56.400
<v Speaker 4>It's not big enough. I'm in a lot of trouble.

445
00:22:56.519 --> 00:23:01.880
<v Speaker 4>And he's six miles back by himself, so he's hoping

446
00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:04.880
<v Speaker 4>and praying that it doesn't decide to actually come over

447
00:23:05.000 --> 00:23:07.160
<v Speaker 4>and just use him as a Louisville slugger.

448
00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.160
<v Speaker 3>And it didn't. Of course, it went off. It left

449
00:23:10.240 --> 00:23:10.960
<v Speaker 3>is the culmination.

450
00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:13.119
<v Speaker 4>Nothing happened after that, But he said, I was so

451
00:23:13.880 --> 00:23:18.440
<v Speaker 4>hissed at myself, thinking that I had stressed this creature

452
00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:21.319
<v Speaker 4>out so much and pissed it off so much. Whatever

453
00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:23.160
<v Speaker 4>it was, and who knows if that was a male

454
00:23:23.279 --> 00:23:26.039
<v Speaker 4>or a female, if that was some kind of maternal

455
00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:30.039
<v Speaker 4>instinct or paternal instinct, whatever that was that I ignited

456
00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:33.480
<v Speaker 4>in that creature was really dangerous for me to do.

457
00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:36.319
<v Speaker 4>And he knows that he's very lucky to be here.

458
00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:39.599
<v Speaker 4>So that's another cautionary tale with the baby. The baby

459
00:23:39.599 --> 00:23:42.480
<v Speaker 4>Cris guys works. If you want to have a little

460
00:23:42.519 --> 00:23:45.359
<v Speaker 4>something happen in the woods, give it a shot. I

461
00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:48.079
<v Speaker 4>don't know how that's going to turn out, but maybe

462
00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:52.480
<v Speaker 4>don't be six or seven miles back doing your shirt

463
00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:55.359
<v Speaker 4>a thing. You know, he still goes out. I think

464
00:23:55.400 --> 00:23:57.279
<v Speaker 4>I just saw I'm posting today. I just saw a post.

465
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<v Speaker 4>He still does his thing. It didn't turn him into

466
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:04.839
<v Speaker 4>the person that moves to the desert because there's no bigfoot,

467
00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:08.759
<v Speaker 4>but that wasn't a great encounter to have, obviously, he said,

468
00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:11.240
<v Speaker 4>I never saw it that. There's no doubt in my

469
00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:14.400
<v Speaker 4>mind it was something very large, very pissed off, and

470
00:24:14.640 --> 00:24:20.480
<v Speaker 4>my respectably calibered weapon would not have done much to

471
00:24:20.920 --> 00:24:21.960
<v Speaker 4>help me out.

472
00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:26.519
<v Speaker 1>I've heard multiple stories like that, and they always make

473
00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:29.640
<v Speaker 1>me very scared for the people that are using some

474
00:24:29.759 --> 00:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>of these things that I think it's a joke. For

475
00:24:32.319 --> 00:24:34.720
<v Speaker 1>some people that go into the woods, they take this seriously,

476
00:24:34.759 --> 00:24:36.759
<v Speaker 1>but it's a hobby for them, and they go out

477
00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:39.559
<v Speaker 1>and they've seen this on television where it's okay to

478
00:24:39.599 --> 00:24:43.039
<v Speaker 1>play baby cries or whatever this noise is. But I

479
00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:46.599
<v Speaker 1>think we're dealing with a very large animal, and animals

480
00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:51.160
<v Speaker 1>are unpredictable. We are animals. People are very unpredictable, you

481
00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:53.640
<v Speaker 1>jokingly said earlier. I don't think it was a joke

482
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:56.079
<v Speaker 1>about taking your weapon into the woods. I take a

483
00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>weapon in the woods for other people. We had a

484
00:24:58.400 --> 00:25:01.240
<v Speaker 1>situation that I'm not going to get into over the

485
00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:03.519
<v Speaker 1>course of this camp out that we had this past weekend,

486
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:05.519
<v Speaker 1>where I thought we were going to have to have

487
00:25:05.559 --> 00:25:08.599
<v Speaker 1>a weapon for a person more so than any animal

488
00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.759
<v Speaker 1>that we were going to encounter. So I think that's

489
00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:14.279
<v Speaker 1>smart to do go out armed, but there's so many

490
00:25:14.279 --> 00:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>people that I've talked to that have had experiences with

491
00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>these things. I interviewed a moose hunter a couple of

492
00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:23.400
<v Speaker 1>years ago who had a very high powered rifle and

493
00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:25.400
<v Speaker 1>this thing stepped out and he said, dude, there was

494
00:25:25.440 --> 00:25:27.759
<v Speaker 1>no way I was pulling the trigger. I knew it

495
00:25:27.799 --> 00:25:29.519
<v Speaker 1>was only going to piss this thing off. So he

496
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:31.519
<v Speaker 1>backed out and got out of there. I think it's

497
00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:34.519
<v Speaker 1>great to use those tools, and if people want to

498
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:36.799
<v Speaker 1>have an experience, there are different ways I think to

499
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:39.359
<v Speaker 1>have those, but you do have to be careful when

500
00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:41.880
<v Speaker 1>you're out there in the woods six miles deep by yourself,

501
00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:46.079
<v Speaker 1>probably not the place to play. Baby cries to have

502
00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:48.640
<v Speaker 1>an experience with bigfoot. So we'll put that out there

503
00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:51.880
<v Speaker 1>as a cautionary tale and a warning to you guys.

504
00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it might work, but just be prepared for what

505
00:25:54.480 --> 00:25:58.559
<v Speaker 1>you might experience. You talked about the Brown property. Were

506
00:25:58.559 --> 00:26:01.400
<v Speaker 1>there other experiences that you got had there? Was that

507
00:26:01.519 --> 00:26:04.440
<v Speaker 1>someplace that you went back to and had other experiences

508
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:05.559
<v Speaker 1>after that initial time?

509
00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:07.759
<v Speaker 3>They certainly did. We didn't.

510
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:11.920
<v Speaker 4>That was pretty much what occurred for our trip. But

511
00:26:12.000 --> 00:26:16.480
<v Speaker 4>the Browns they have the linebacker on the ridge thermal.

512
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:19.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you've seen that. It looks like you can

513
00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:22.839
<v Speaker 4>literally see the second head of traps on this guy,

514
00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:26.960
<v Speaker 4>and that is down in that ravine right off the

515
00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:29.680
<v Speaker 4>back of their house, and it looks like Jay Cutler

516
00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:33.799
<v Speaker 4>is just chilling at the back of the house in

517
00:26:33.880 --> 00:26:37.599
<v Speaker 4>this thermal video, which is wild. Of course it's not

518
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:40.599
<v Speaker 4>because Jay Cutler doesn't quite have the cone head and

519
00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:44.559
<v Speaker 4>orbitals that are faithball and actually in the full video,

520
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:48.359
<v Speaker 4>I believe that a cow actually does cross in front

521
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:51.839
<v Speaker 4>of or near the linebacker on the ridge as he's

522
00:26:51.880 --> 00:26:55.759
<v Speaker 4>just chilling. Their poor cows to just not always super

523
00:26:55.799 --> 00:27:00.359
<v Speaker 4>aware they're surroundings. Yeah, that was it for that particular trip,

524
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:03.640
<v Speaker 4>but the Browns have certainly had a lot of sightings,

525
00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 4>a lot of experiences in that area alone. We had

526
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:11.359
<v Speaker 4>gone down to the river and there was a gentleman

527
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:14.200
<v Speaker 4>that was salmon fishing, and that guy lives there and

528
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.559
<v Speaker 4>he has his own experiences with these things. It's just

529
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:20.519
<v Speaker 4>one of those areas where the big boys they come

530
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.680
<v Speaker 4>out to play. You're in the middle of the highway

531
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:24.960
<v Speaker 4>some parts of the year, and that's just how it is.

532
00:27:25.559 --> 00:27:27.559
<v Speaker 1>You've been all over the place looking for these things.

533
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:29.519
<v Speaker 1>Have you had experiences in other places?

534
00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:34.240
<v Speaker 4>Yes, this is another obviously auditory. As I already prefaced,

535
00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:39.920
<v Speaker 4>went out to Donna and Gregg's property, also Washington State.

536
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.519
<v Speaker 4>We were there for a filling project. Never came to fruition,

537
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 4>but we still did all the things and did the

538
00:27:47.599 --> 00:27:51.039
<v Speaker 4>interviews and went around the property, and we were there

539
00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 4>for a couple of nights. Their story is incredible. It's

540
00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:57.200
<v Speaker 4>one of the most active properties I've ever actually heard

541
00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.799
<v Speaker 4>of and was lucky enough to visit. What I heard

542
00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:03.519
<v Speaker 4>was David Elison. I call him the audio guru of

543
00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:06.359
<v Speaker 4>the Olympic Project. Hey, it's when I say he's the guru,

544
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:09.759
<v Speaker 4>but he is. He's amazing. We had walked with the

545
00:28:09.839 --> 00:28:13.480
<v Speaker 4>group up the road from Donna and Gregg's property. Whatever

546
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:16.440
<v Speaker 4>we were doing, I'm not sure, it's along this ravine,

547
00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:21.720
<v Speaker 4>and that ravine essentially was the highway for these bigfoot

548
00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:24.880
<v Speaker 4>to come in and out and drop in, and that's

549
00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:28.079
<v Speaker 4>where a lot of activity happened on that property. So

550
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:30.000
<v Speaker 4>for whatever reason, we're up the road, the whole group

551
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.240
<v Speaker 4>of us and David and I we end up walking.

552
00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:36.400
<v Speaker 3>Back to the house by ourselves and.

553
00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 4>Then off to the right in this, said Ravine, I

554
00:28:39.319 --> 00:28:42.599
<v Speaker 4>heard three vowels, and to this day I know that

555
00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 4>if I go back and I listened to what David

556
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 4>said about this, but I don't recall exactly what it

557
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:49.319
<v Speaker 4>sounded like.

558
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:52.200
<v Speaker 3>I just remember hearing what you would call.

559
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:57.480
<v Speaker 4>Samurai chatter, three vowels spoken right next to us in

560
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.519
<v Speaker 4>that Ravine and I look at David and hexcept me

561
00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:01.880
<v Speaker 4>and I.

562
00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Go, do you hear that? He goes, oh, yeah, would

563
00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 3>you hear?

564
00:29:05.720 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 4>And I repeated the vowels that I heard and he goes, yep,

565
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:11.480
<v Speaker 4>that's what we hear all the time. It's a lot

566
00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:16.599
<v Speaker 4>of times those three vowels. So that again bumped up

567
00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:17.680
<v Speaker 4>the percentage for me.

568
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:20.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, that was amazing. It's not much.

569
00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:23.359
<v Speaker 4>I know that people that have actually seen these things,

570
00:29:24.000 --> 00:29:26.200
<v Speaker 4>I talked to them a lot as well, and that's

571
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:30.839
<v Speaker 4>not much. But for someone that's so into Bigfoot and

572
00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:36.920
<v Speaker 4>wants really badly to have confirmations happen, that was a

573
00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:39.759
<v Speaker 4>big deal to me. Even just to hear that the

574
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:44.319
<v Speaker 4>descriptions are true of when they are trying to speak,

575
00:29:44.359 --> 00:29:47.079
<v Speaker 4>it just sounds off and you're like, good try, buddy.

576
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:50.400
<v Speaker 3>But not quite there. But good job. That made my

577
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:51.839
<v Speaker 3>whole year with that.

578
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.839
<v Speaker 4>But okay, so for anyone that's not familiar with Donna

579
00:29:55.920 --> 00:29:58.960
<v Speaker 4>and Gregg's property, the only pin I'm gonna put it

580
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.640
<v Speaker 4>in it is Washington in state. Trust me when I

581
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 4>tell you it's plenty wooded water around the usual things

582
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:06.039
<v Speaker 4>that biggies like.

583
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:08.079
<v Speaker 3>Biggie's like this area very much.

584
00:30:08.200 --> 00:30:11.200
<v Speaker 4>Donna and Greg frown this property and within the first

585
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 4>month of them being there.

586
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:16.559
<v Speaker 3>Donna admits this. I remember her saying this in the interview.

587
00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:19.119
<v Speaker 4>I had a three hour interview with David Ellis and

588
00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:20.279
<v Speaker 4>Donna on my show.

589
00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:21.920
<v Speaker 3>I think it's episode three hundred.

590
00:30:21.960 --> 00:30:25.759
<v Speaker 4>Actually, you guys can go listen to them actually telling

591
00:30:25.799 --> 00:30:27.480
<v Speaker 4>this the people that were actually there.

592
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:29.599
<v Speaker 3>Donna admits that she and.

593
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:32.039
<v Speaker 4>Greg were in a little bit of a tiff at

594
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 4>the time of being in the car. So he's driving

595
00:30:34.920 --> 00:30:36.559
<v Speaker 4>and she's doing this thing that we do, which is

596
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 4>looking out the side window because we don't want to

597
00:30:38.359 --> 00:30:39.799
<v Speaker 4>look at you right now. We don't even want to

598
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:42.559
<v Speaker 4>see you when I'm piffery, right So she's looking out

599
00:30:42.559 --> 00:30:47.960
<v Speaker 4>her side window. She says, all I saw was the

600
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.519
<v Speaker 4>biggest pair of legs I have ever seen covered in hair.

601
00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.599
<v Speaker 4>This is all happening in milliseconds, and then a big

602
00:30:54.640 --> 00:30:58.119
<v Speaker 4>bubble butt. That's her words, a big bubble butt, and

603
00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:00.319
<v Speaker 4>then eyes flick up a little more and it is

604
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:04.119
<v Speaker 4>just a massive torso covered in not quite as much hair,

605
00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:05.359
<v Speaker 4>I think, is what she said.

606
00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.279
<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll be

607
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:11.119
<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages.

608
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 4>Anybody that knows Donna, she never ever cusses.

609
00:31:20.079 --> 00:31:23.160
<v Speaker 3>She doesn't curse. It's just not her thing. She starts saying.

610
00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:27.400
<v Speaker 4>No way, no e f and way, no f and way.

611
00:31:27.640 --> 00:31:31.119
<v Speaker 4>She is freaked right out. Greg's like, what's the matter,

612
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:35.000
<v Speaker 4>what's going on? She tells them what she saw. She goes,

613
00:31:35.039 --> 00:31:36.799
<v Speaker 4>I don't even know how else to say this, but

614
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:41.359
<v Speaker 4>there's like a breaging bigfoot. I just saw something. There's

615
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:45.839
<v Speaker 4>switchbacks going up to this property. It's pretty legit in

616
00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:49.200
<v Speaker 4>the middle of nowhere. To be honest with you, neighbors

617
00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.759
<v Speaker 4>decently far apart by acres and acres comes back down.

618
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:55.279
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing to be seen. It's not there anymore.

619
00:31:55.279 --> 00:32:01.880
<v Speaker 4>Of course, that kicked off so much activity that Donna,

620
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:06.200
<v Speaker 4>who was home most of the time by herself, ended

621
00:32:06.279 --> 00:32:09.319
<v Speaker 4>up not going outside after dark. She would go out

622
00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:12.160
<v Speaker 4>on the patio, which is as far as she would

623
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:16.480
<v Speaker 4>go to place the recorder all of the recordings, and

624
00:32:16.680 --> 00:32:20.359
<v Speaker 4>I actually still have some loaded on my roadcaster if

625
00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:23.079
<v Speaker 4>you guys wanted to hear some of the audio captured.

626
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.759
<v Speaker 4>All of this is captured from the port, which makes

627
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.880
<v Speaker 4>it even creepier. Yes, they can get loud, but some

628
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:32.359
<v Speaker 4>of this you can tell they are pretty dang close.

629
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:34.559
<v Speaker 3>So Greg is gone.

630
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:37.839
<v Speaker 4>A lot of the time, what starts to happen is

631
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:43.440
<v Speaker 4>strange sounds outside. Here's a good example. They have chickens.

632
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 4>There's one chicken. He's a special chicken. His name was Pepe.

633
00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.200
<v Speaker 4>Peep would actually fly up and sit on people's shoulders,

634
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.759
<v Speaker 4>the cool chicken. He was unique and it was Donna's

635
00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:59.480
<v Speaker 4>favorite chicken. Peep went missing one night, one day, I'm

636
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:02.000
<v Speaker 4>sure it was overnight. Couldn't figure out how in the

637
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.279
<v Speaker 4>world peepe got out of the pen, But okay, it

638
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:10.519
<v Speaker 4>can happen. Peep's back the next day in the chicken coube. Okay,

639
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:15.440
<v Speaker 4>that's a little weird. Whatever happens again now at this point,

640
00:33:15.880 --> 00:33:20.319
<v Speaker 4>for the second time, Pepe goes missing. David and Derek

641
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.079
<v Speaker 4>and Shane and all the Olympic Project guys have already

642
00:33:23.079 --> 00:33:25.480
<v Speaker 4>been called in because there's been some weird stuff going on.

643
00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:30.000
<v Speaker 4>I forgot to mention Donna is bad to the bone.

644
00:33:30.000 --> 00:33:33.000
<v Speaker 4>She's a bad to the bone woman, no nonsense. She

645
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:37.319
<v Speaker 4>was a photographer for National Geographic, would go to Africa

646
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:41.359
<v Speaker 4>and photograph and film lions and she's awesome, very no

647
00:33:41.359 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 4>nonsense person. So when this stuff is starting to go down,

648
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:46.640
<v Speaker 4>she realizes she needs to reach out to someone, and

649
00:33:46.720 --> 00:33:49.119
<v Speaker 4>the Olympic Project is who she reached out to, so

650
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:52.799
<v Speaker 4>David and them are already involved. Peepe goes missing the

651
00:33:52.880 --> 00:33:55.920
<v Speaker 4>second time. David goes, I know this sounds really weird.

652
00:33:56.079 --> 00:33:59.640
<v Speaker 4>Probably not gonna like this. Go to the woodline and

653
00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:04.319
<v Speaker 4>act for them to give Pete back. And she said, what, No,

654
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 4>that is so crazy and silly. Come on, David, just

655
00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.440
<v Speaker 4>do it. So she does, and by god, the next

656
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:16.760
<v Speaker 4>day after she asked for Pete back, and the second

657
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:19.400
<v Speaker 4>time he was gone longer. I don't recall how long

658
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:21.800
<v Speaker 4>she said Pepe was gone that second time. It wasn't overnight.

659
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 4>Heep was back in the coop. He did go missing

660
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.079
<v Speaker 4>a third time. I don't have time frames. I don't

661
00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:31.159
<v Speaker 4>recall the timeframes on how long or if she had

662
00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.320
<v Speaker 4>to ask for him back. But I do know that

663
00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:37.199
<v Speaker 4>asking for him back actually did work. Now you can say,

664
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:41.639
<v Speaker 4>first time, maybe he's a really smart chicken on top

665
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:44.039
<v Speaker 4>of having actually some personality to him.

666
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Maybe he got out. Second time, that's a little weird. Third,

667
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:48.639
<v Speaker 3>fourth time.

668
00:34:49.320 --> 00:34:52.920
<v Speaker 4>Something is definitely going on. Man, Donna've laughed about it.

669
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.679
<v Speaker 4>We're like, if Peepe could talk, man, I bet beyond

670
00:34:55.679 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 4>his PTSD that boy has some stories. He has got

671
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 4>some real trauma that chicken right there. So things like

672
00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:08.079
<v Speaker 4>that are going on. Something that she never told David

673
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 4>that she tried was she went to a store and

674
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:16.320
<v Speaker 4>there was a doll that under her clothing was on

675
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:23.239
<v Speaker 4>her belly. This giggle, the baby giggle creepy, especially with

676
00:35:23.360 --> 00:35:25.920
<v Speaker 4>what happens after she takes it. She goes I didn't

677
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:27.679
<v Speaker 4>even tell David I did this because he wouldn't like

678
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:32.320
<v Speaker 4>it to put it in the ravine somewhere, And sure enough,

679
00:35:33.360 --> 00:35:36.280
<v Speaker 4>in the middle of the night on recording, you can

680
00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:41.559
<v Speaker 4>hear the baby giggle without being watched that much, or

681
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:44.559
<v Speaker 4>of course, if you have opposable thumbs, I'm sure they're

682
00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:46.519
<v Speaker 4>picking it up. What in the hell is this out

683
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:51.320
<v Speaker 4>in my living room? It kept getting activated. Now, the

684
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:54.400
<v Speaker 4>reason they bought this particular property is because it had

685
00:35:54.440 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 4>incredible views, so they didn't have curtains up and blinds up.

686
00:35:58.159 --> 00:36:00.719
<v Speaker 3>Who would want to block this amazing view.

687
00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.440
<v Speaker 4>Greg had a certain chair that he would sit in

688
00:36:05.159 --> 00:36:08.039
<v Speaker 4>when he was home onen't home a lot. David had

689
00:36:08.079 --> 00:36:10.920
<v Speaker 4>walked the property at some point and noticed that within

690
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:15.079
<v Speaker 4>the fencing part of it was moved over.

691
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:16.679
<v Speaker 3>And let me see what's doing here.

692
00:36:16.719 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 4>And he's kind of looking and he's, oh, that's right

693
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:23.039
<v Speaker 4>where Greg sits when he's home at nine he's reading,

694
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 4>or he's on his phone, whatever he's doing.

695
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.239
<v Speaker 3>That's like his chill chair. Is Greg's chair.

696
00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.159
<v Speaker 4>Right through that slat where that thing was pulled off

697
00:36:30.159 --> 00:36:33.480
<v Speaker 4>the nail whatever, it was a direct site to the

698
00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:37.840
<v Speaker 4>window where Greg would sit. David fixed that back where

699
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 4>it was supposed to go fence his hole again. Next

700
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.920
<v Speaker 4>time he came out, moved the same way. It was

701
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.800
<v Speaker 4>right in the same spot to see Greg. Donna felt

702
00:36:46.840 --> 00:36:50.519
<v Speaker 4>like she was always being watched there. She got to

703
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:53.000
<v Speaker 4>the point, and this actually makes me really sad to

704
00:36:53.119 --> 00:36:55.960
<v Speaker 4>hear her say this, especially when they were so proud

705
00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:58.199
<v Speaker 4>of that property and they loved it so much. She

706
00:36:58.320 --> 00:37:00.679
<v Speaker 4>got to the point where she would make sure that

707
00:37:00.719 --> 00:37:04.800
<v Speaker 4>everything was done downstairs so that she didn't have to

708
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:06.840
<v Speaker 4>walk in certain parts of the house and have the

709
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:10.440
<v Speaker 4>lights on because, like David said, she wasn't a fish bowl. Essentially,

710
00:37:10.519 --> 00:37:12.599
<v Speaker 4>we love them, but they're the freaks at Table nine

711
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:16.679
<v Speaker 4>and they're all watching her all the time. There was

712
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:19.679
<v Speaker 4>an instance where I should have gone back and listened

713
00:37:19.719 --> 00:37:23.000
<v Speaker 4>to this part. She put a baseball cap on one

714
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:26.119
<v Speaker 4>day and she was walking around on the property and

715
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:30.239
<v Speaker 4>they threw an absolute fit about that. Now was it

716
00:37:30.280 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 4>because they didn't recognize her. They thought it was someone

717
00:37:32.679 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 4>new because they obviously seemed to like her schedule, Greg's schedule.

718
00:37:38.199 --> 00:37:42.199
<v Speaker 4>If Greg was around, there was more activity. The dogs

719
00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.440
<v Speaker 4>are a big part of this too. The dogs, from

720
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:48.519
<v Speaker 4>the onset of getting this property hated to go outside.

721
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:49.800
<v Speaker 3>They didn't like it.

722
00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:52.840
<v Speaker 4>And she has sent me pictures of I think it

723
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 4>was Leyla sitting next to one of the fences that

724
00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.440
<v Speaker 4>runs down the back of the property and then just

725
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:05.079
<v Speaker 4>staring off into the woodline, ears up, hackles up. Something's

726
00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:07.719
<v Speaker 4>not cool. I even told her, I'm like zooming in

727
00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:10.039
<v Speaker 4>on the shadows. I bet he's like right there, you

728
00:38:10.079 --> 00:38:12.320
<v Speaker 4>just can't see them. Because they're amazing like that. They

729
00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:16.199
<v Speaker 4>just blend in so well. The dogs hated to go outside.

730
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:19.440
<v Speaker 4>They had lived in other places Idaho, I forget the

731
00:38:19.480 --> 00:38:21.440
<v Speaker 4>other place that they had lived in the middle of

732
00:38:21.559 --> 00:38:25.000
<v Speaker 4>essentially nowhere in the woods. Dogs never had a problem.

733
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:27.559
<v Speaker 4>I think these are labs anyhow, These are dogs that

734
00:38:27.599 --> 00:38:29.800
<v Speaker 4>loves to be outside. They didn't love to be outside

735
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 4>of this property. They just knew that something was very off.

736
00:38:34.480 --> 00:38:41.400
<v Speaker 4>So there are recordings that have essentially especially for me,

737
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.840
<v Speaker 4>and I'll play some of these. And David is one

738
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:50.079
<v Speaker 4>of the most transparent people about this stuff. He will

739
00:38:50.119 --> 00:38:54.000
<v Speaker 4>straight up tell you I put it in the spectrograph.

740
00:38:54.239 --> 00:38:58.039
<v Speaker 4>I can't tell you what this is, but I can

741
00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.599
<v Speaker 4>tell you it's not a person. You know that that

742
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:04.039
<v Speaker 4>can be proven at least, all right, I'll play a

743
00:39:04.039 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 4>couple of these. This one was early on. This one

744
00:39:09.079 --> 00:39:14.079
<v Speaker 4>is titled Horn Vocal. This is when Greg got sent

745
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:17.719
<v Speaker 4>this audio clip. This was very very early on, I

746
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:21.119
<v Speaker 4>think maybe a month within the Olympic project starting to

747
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.480
<v Speaker 4>go there and seeing what was doing. This was the

748
00:39:24.519 --> 00:39:31.360
<v Speaker 4>audio that Greg said, oh, maybe something is going on here,

749
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:45.679
<v Speaker 4>so let me play that. So that's Luke, because most

750
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:47.280
<v Speaker 4>people go, can you play that again? Can he play

751
00:39:47.280 --> 00:39:49.519
<v Speaker 4>that again? So if it sounds like it's looped, it is.

752
00:39:49.679 --> 00:39:52.639
<v Speaker 4>This was one of the turning points for at least Greg.

753
00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:55.239
<v Speaker 4>I think at this point Donna already knew because she

754
00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 4>had not only seen it, but she's living with this

755
00:39:57.440 --> 00:40:00.360
<v Speaker 4>day and day out. This is the horn vocal. I mean,

756
00:40:01.039 --> 00:40:08.119
<v Speaker 4>it's just very powerful stuff. We have sounds that are

757
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:12.360
<v Speaker 4>comparable to the Sierra Sounds Ron Moorehead Cierra Sounds caption

758
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.920
<v Speaker 4>in California. You will think that this is pulled from

759
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:19.159
<v Speaker 4>the Sierra Sounds, but it's not. In fact, it's so

760
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:24.199
<v Speaker 4>similar that when David sent it to Ron Moorehead, Ron goes,

761
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:27.000
<v Speaker 4>why are you sending me my own recordings? This is

762
00:40:27.039 --> 00:40:30.119
<v Speaker 4>Donna and Gregg's property. Oh okay, and I think that

763
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.679
<v Speaker 4>Ron's actually been out there. So here is some samurai

764
00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:50.719
<v Speaker 4>chatter from Donna and Greggs again recorder on the back deck.

765
00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:54.239
<v Speaker 3>All right, This next one is one of my favorites.

766
00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:58.679
<v Speaker 4>David titled it Family Disagreement, but I remember telling them

767
00:40:59.199 --> 00:41:02.840
<v Speaker 4>during our chat, I go, that's Jurassic Park. That's some

768
00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:06.320
<v Speaker 4>crazy stuff right there. Or Donna to be home alone

769
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.559
<v Speaker 4>that much and have this, knowing that this is what's

770
00:41:09.639 --> 00:41:12.840
<v Speaker 4>going on in your backyard and you're alone. Yeah, so

771
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 4>here's what I lovingly call Jurassic Park. So David says

772
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:53.960
<v Speaker 4>it sounds like he calls it a power knock, that

773
00:41:54.079 --> 00:41:55.320
<v Speaker 4>power knock that would knock.

774
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 3>At the end, was like, all right, that's enough.

775
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.280
<v Speaker 4>Just zip it, zippit woman or zipp it man or

776
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 4>zipit kid, whatever it was.

777
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:04.480
<v Speaker 3>This is the stuff that would go on, not every

778
00:42:04.519 --> 00:42:08.079
<v Speaker 3>single night. There would be two, three weeks of a break.

779
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:10.000
<v Speaker 3>To Donna, that was actually a lot.

780
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:12.199
<v Speaker 4>But when you say that that's actually wild, all you

781
00:42:12.239 --> 00:42:14.639
<v Speaker 4>would get is a couple of weeks or three weeks

782
00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:17.000
<v Speaker 4>of a break, and then it would start up all

783
00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.679
<v Speaker 4>over again. It didn't really seem to matter too much

784
00:42:20.360 --> 00:42:24.079
<v Speaker 4>about whether or any of that kind of stuff. Oh

785
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:28.280
<v Speaker 4>and in fact, I remember Donna saying that which one

786
00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:32.920
<v Speaker 4>was it that she needed the break from? I should

787
00:42:32.920 --> 00:42:35.599
<v Speaker 4>have written that down. There was one that she heard.

788
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh it was also the horn vocal that I played

789
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:41.639
<v Speaker 4>right out of the gate. That was one where she goes,

790
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:44.360
<v Speaker 4>I actually need a break from listening. Because you have

791
00:42:44.400 --> 00:42:47.880
<v Speaker 4>to remember that she would set this out, wouldn't listen

792
00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:49.679
<v Speaker 4>to it, would just send it to David, and then

793
00:42:49.719 --> 00:42:51.800
<v Speaker 4>he's trying to catch up and go through stuff. So

794
00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.280
<v Speaker 4>whatever the time difference there of it actually happening in

795
00:42:55.360 --> 00:42:57.000
<v Speaker 4>her finding out about it, who knows.

796
00:42:57.880 --> 00:42:59.920
<v Speaker 3>But she wasn't trying to stay up and listen to this.

797
00:43:00.280 --> 00:43:04.000
<v Speaker 4>She's hearing it enough, and she goes in some instances, yes,

798
00:43:04.079 --> 00:43:07.039
<v Speaker 4>I would hear it while I'm in the house, But

799
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:09.719
<v Speaker 4>other times I know that I was just so exhausted

800
00:43:09.719 --> 00:43:11.840
<v Speaker 4>and so tired, or for whatever reason, I did not

801
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:15.480
<v Speaker 4>hear it live and in person. So this stuff is

802
00:43:15.519 --> 00:43:19.000
<v Speaker 4>just trickling and trickling in from David. That first vocal,

803
00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:22.559
<v Speaker 4>that horn vocal that also got Greg to go, oh

804
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:26.360
<v Speaker 4>my goodness, what is happening here? She also is like, yep,

805
00:43:26.519 --> 00:43:28.199
<v Speaker 4>could use a break. I'm going to take a little

806
00:43:28.239 --> 00:43:32.800
<v Speaker 4>break because it's so different to go to a location

807
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:35.639
<v Speaker 4>that you know is active like I have done, and

808
00:43:35.760 --> 00:43:39.559
<v Speaker 4>have something happen and be able to leave. But when

809
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:44.320
<v Speaker 4>it's your home, yikes, that's a huge Be careful what

810
00:43:44.559 --> 00:43:47.960
<v Speaker 4>you wish for, Even myself, I'm thinking about maybe in

811
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:50.280
<v Speaker 4>a year or two, who knows, going to Tennessee. I

812
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:52.679
<v Speaker 4>would love to have some green and some land and

813
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:56.000
<v Speaker 4>fewer people look in your face. You have to go, gosh,

814
00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:58.039
<v Speaker 4>would I really want that? I say that I do,

815
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:01.079
<v Speaker 4>but I think I live I am demented like that.

816
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:04.960
<v Speaker 4>It's always a be careful what you wish for. Because

817
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.519
<v Speaker 4>this changed Donna's every day, she tried to take the

818
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:09.840
<v Speaker 4>dogs out as early as she could. Even the poor

819
00:44:09.840 --> 00:44:12.079
<v Speaker 4>dogs didn't want to go out anyway, so she goes.

820
00:44:12.119 --> 00:44:16.079
<v Speaker 4>They started to go to the bathroom essentially right near

821
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:18.840
<v Speaker 4>the walkway of the house. It's quite a long walkway.

822
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:22.039
<v Speaker 4>It's not like they were just all over the patio there.

823
00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:24.000
<v Speaker 4>They had so much room to roam, and they didn't

824
00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 4>want to roam. They were like, peace out, Nope, not

825
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:28.360
<v Speaker 4>doing it. And she's fine, I don't want to go

826
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:32.800
<v Speaker 4>outside anyway, girls, let's go okay, here are some whoops.

827
00:44:33.440 --> 00:44:36.599
<v Speaker 4>They started to say things like the whoops and the

828
00:44:36.599 --> 00:44:39.639
<v Speaker 4>wood knocks became so the norm.

829
00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:41.639
<v Speaker 3>It was kind of like, ho hum.

830
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.480
<v Speaker 4>That is wild that you get so used to hearing

831
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:45.519
<v Speaker 4>this stuff so often.

832
00:44:45.639 --> 00:45:33.079
<v Speaker 5>So here's a couple of the whoops.

833
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:52.920
<v Speaker 4>Here is one of the screams that they could hear,

834
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:09.400
<v Speaker 4>and stay.

835
00:46:09.159 --> 00:46:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Tuned for more sasquatch out to see.

836
00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:11.679
<v Speaker 6>We'll be right back.

837
00:46:11.719 --> 00:46:13.440
<v Speaker 1>After these messages.

838
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 3>A lot of power behind that sea.

839
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:20.039
<v Speaker 4>And that's one that it seems like it could be

840
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.880
<v Speaker 4>a little further away, right, but you can still tell

841
00:46:22.920 --> 00:46:26.280
<v Speaker 4>that that's a set of lungs. I want to save

842
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:29.360
<v Speaker 4>one of the Koudi graph for very last as far

843
00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:34.360
<v Speaker 4>as the audio goes, here is one like a babboon

844
00:46:34.719 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 4>type of a sound, because David would pull an actual

845
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.039
<v Speaker 4>babboon sound and then put it to this and there

846
00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:44.199
<v Speaker 4>are similarities except the big pair of lungs. From what

847
00:46:44.239 --> 00:46:55.000
<v Speaker 4>it sounds like, that scream and the grunt, that gravelly.

848
00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:56.079
<v Speaker 3>Sound that baboons can have.

849
00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.599
<v Speaker 4>Again right off the back porch, Welcome home, everybody.

850
00:47:00.639 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 3>This is what's going down, all right.

851
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:21.320
<v Speaker 4>Whoopy Wookie is the next one. So that's why he

852
00:47:21.360 --> 00:47:23.760
<v Speaker 4>taught it whoop be Wookie, because that's what it sounds like.

853
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:26.840
<v Speaker 4>It's trying to say, whoop be Wookie, whoopee.

854
00:47:27.039 --> 00:47:27.800
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to tell.

855
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:29.880
<v Speaker 4>And we'll play that one more time because now we're

856
00:47:29.920 --> 00:47:33.639
<v Speaker 4>getting into the talking type stuff, which is it's extra

857
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:36.199
<v Speaker 4>creepy and amazing. At the end of that one, it

858
00:47:36.199 --> 00:47:39.440
<v Speaker 4>almost sounds the same as the whoopie whoopee. At the end, Wookie,

859
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.599
<v Speaker 4>it's saying the same thing. Don't know who knows what

860
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:45.679
<v Speaker 4>exactly they're saying. We just do not know, all right,

861
00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:51.800
<v Speaker 4>last two crow Talker and then Layla Layla Bridget crow

862
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:52.840
<v Speaker 4>Talker first.

863
00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:41.159
<v Speaker 3>Jurassic Park.

864
00:48:41.239 --> 00:48:45.079
<v Speaker 4>I swear, okay, also before I forget this point, before

865
00:48:45.119 --> 00:48:47.880
<v Speaker 4>I played the last little sample that I haven't. I

866
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:51.199
<v Speaker 4>think that we played quite a bit more on my episode.

867
00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:52.880
<v Speaker 4>But I don't know if this is boring for people.

868
00:48:52.920 --> 00:48:56.360
<v Speaker 4>Hopefully not. But they did try to set up trail cameras.

869
00:48:56.400 --> 00:49:01.400
<v Speaker 4>Of course, they definitely did that, but as per usual

870
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:06.360
<v Speaker 4>however they do it, they were able to avoid said

871
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:09.920
<v Speaker 4>trailcams each and every time it might go off, but

872
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.119
<v Speaker 4>there was never ever anything on it. I'm not saying

873
00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.800
<v Speaker 4>there's anything paranormal to that. It might have just gone

874
00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.920
<v Speaker 4>off for another reason, and there wasn't a bigfoot anywhere

875
00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:19.360
<v Speaker 4>near there.

876
00:49:19.840 --> 00:49:22.960
<v Speaker 3>David goes, it looks like an eye.

877
00:49:23.119 --> 00:49:25.039
<v Speaker 4>But I don't think that they know that a trail

878
00:49:25.079 --> 00:49:28.760
<v Speaker 4>cam takes their picture or a video. A trail camera

879
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:32.800
<v Speaker 4>has what looks like an I said them, let's face it,

880
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:37.039
<v Speaker 4>you're hanging it up in their house. Essentially, you're gonna

881
00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:39.840
<v Speaker 4>notice this something is hung up on the damn wall

882
00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:42.519
<v Speaker 4>in your house that wasn't there before. And these things

883
00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:46.840
<v Speaker 4>are very intelligent. Obviously to what level we don't know,

884
00:49:46.960 --> 00:49:50.039
<v Speaker 4>but let's face it, they talk, they can avoid us

885
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:53.840
<v Speaker 4>who could blame them, right, That is what has gone

886
00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:56.559
<v Speaker 4>on there is just trying to capture as much audio

887
00:49:56.639 --> 00:49:59.280
<v Speaker 4>as possible and definitely trying to get them on video.

888
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:04.719
<v Speaker 4>Never ever happened, Never happened. Okay, this is one of

889
00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:07.719
<v Speaker 4>my favorite ones. Greg would go out and call the

890
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:10.639
<v Speaker 4>dogs and he'd called the dogs, of course, in a

891
00:50:10.679 --> 00:50:14.119
<v Speaker 4>certain way. You just have this certain cadence that you

892
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:19.119
<v Speaker 4>do certain things right. He'd go, layla bridget, layla bridge it.

893
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.400
<v Speaker 4>That's how he would call the dogs in. So let's

894
00:50:22.440 --> 00:51:00.960
<v Speaker 4>listen to layla bridget as the coup de gras.

895
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:47.719
<v Speaker 3>Again.

896
00:50:47.760 --> 00:50:52.639
<v Speaker 4>It's that almost got it. It's layla layla brigo, is

897
00:50:52.760 --> 00:50:57.519
<v Speaker 4>what it's saying. Close, very close, Donna goes. That's not,

898
00:50:57.880 --> 00:51:00.800
<v Speaker 4>of course Greg's tone of voice, but that is the

899
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.800
<v Speaker 4>exact cadence that he would call the dogs in.

900
00:51:04.960 --> 00:51:06.599
<v Speaker 3>So that is just wild.

901
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:10.960
<v Speaker 4>And those are some of my favorite cuts from all

902
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:13.239
<v Speaker 4>of their audio. But that is just a drop in

903
00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:16.119
<v Speaker 4>the bucket from what they have captured. Heck, even on

904
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:18.840
<v Speaker 4>three hundred David, I think said, this is just a

905
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:21.119
<v Speaker 4>small cross section of what.

906
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:26.880
<v Speaker 3>We have captured. So when we were there for.

907
00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:33.719
<v Speaker 4>This project that never came about, the house was pretty

908
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:37.360
<v Speaker 4>much sold. They were moving, and they were moving because

909
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:42.960
<v Speaker 4>of this activity pretty much. Unfortunately, it became a little

910
00:51:43.039 --> 00:51:45.800
<v Speaker 4>bit too much for Donna, who was there pretty much

911
00:51:45.800 --> 00:51:49.400
<v Speaker 4>all the time by herself. Was their dream property changed

912
00:51:49.480 --> 00:51:53.039
<v Speaker 4>quite a bit after the big guys were very interested

913
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:58.280
<v Speaker 4>in her, especially so I actually, in preparation for talking

914
00:51:58.280 --> 00:52:00.760
<v Speaker 4>about this Brian, I talked to Donna quite a bit still,

915
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:03.280
<v Speaker 4>I touched base with her yesterday.

916
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:04.719
<v Speaker 3>I asked her, have.

917
00:52:04.800 --> 00:52:12.159
<v Speaker 4>You heard any new anything from the owners, the neighbors,

918
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:16.920
<v Speaker 4>And by the way, one of the neighbors did bring

919
00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:21.360
<v Speaker 4>up that they forget the verbias that they used. It

920
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:25.360
<v Speaker 4>was something about, oh, yeah, there's other animals in the

921
00:52:25.400 --> 00:52:28.880
<v Speaker 4>area for sure, And she's like other because it's tough.

922
00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 3>It's tough.

923
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:32.000
<v Speaker 4>You can't just come out and just vomit the word

924
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:34.840
<v Speaker 4>bigfoot to just anybody, because you will be labeled the

925
00:52:34.880 --> 00:52:38.960
<v Speaker 4>freak forever. Sometimes it's good to not have the neighbors

926
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:41.519
<v Speaker 4>think you're a freak. Let's just be honest. So I

927
00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:43.519
<v Speaker 4>understand where she was like, well, what do you mean,

928
00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:45.760
<v Speaker 4>do you mean bigfoot? Most people wouldn't do that. I

929
00:52:45.760 --> 00:52:49.719
<v Speaker 4>don't blame her anyhow, touch base with her yesterday, asked

930
00:52:49.719 --> 00:52:52.400
<v Speaker 4>her the question and she goes, you know what. Shortly

931
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:56.800
<v Speaker 4>after they took possession of the house, the real estate

932
00:52:56.840 --> 00:52:59.119
<v Speaker 4>agent got in touch with Donham and.

933
00:52:59.039 --> 00:53:02.639
<v Speaker 3>He goes, oh, hey, the new.

934
00:53:02.440 --> 00:53:06.239
<v Speaker 4>Owners were wondering what kind of wildlife did you see

935
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:09.159
<v Speaker 4>around here? What kind of animals did you see here?

936
00:53:09.360 --> 00:53:10.039
<v Speaker 3>And she's all.

937
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:14.360
<v Speaker 4>Cougars and bobcats and bears. She's like why, and he goes, yeah,

938
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:18.400
<v Speaker 4>they just think they saw some big hairy thing down

939
00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:21.199
<v Speaker 4>the ravine. I'm sure it was just a bear, and

940
00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:23.639
<v Speaker 4>she goes, I was just dying to push more on

941
00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:27.480
<v Speaker 4>that or to go, oh my god, just tell another

942
00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:31.840
<v Speaker 4>person would feel amazing, because you know why that was

943
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:32.480
<v Speaker 4>being asked.

944
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:34.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, you know that bears are in Washington State.

945
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:36.679
<v Speaker 4>You're not gonna have your real to reach out to

946
00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:40.800
<v Speaker 4>the other owner about known animals like bears in Washington State.

947
00:53:40.960 --> 00:53:41.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

948
00:53:42.000 --> 00:53:47.519
<v Speaker 4>So nothing went further than that essentially in that regard,

949
00:53:47.639 --> 00:53:50.800
<v Speaker 4>and even David was like, I don't say bigfoot sasquatch,

950
00:53:50.880 --> 00:53:53.639
<v Speaker 4>the big dogs don't really bring that up probably, you know.

951
00:53:54.559 --> 00:53:58.000
<v Speaker 4>So that's where that stopped as far as that communication.

952
00:53:58.159 --> 00:54:00.800
<v Speaker 4>So I wanted to be sure to add that caveat

953
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:05.039
<v Speaker 4>I'm because stuff is still going on there, at least

954
00:54:05.199 --> 00:54:08.039
<v Speaker 4>back when they sold it. She and I as were

955
00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:15.679
<v Speaker 4>talking yesterday, I like, gosh, I really wonder if the Bigfoot,

956
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:22.000
<v Speaker 4>because they were so keyed into Donna and Gregg's routine.

957
00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 3>They seem to like routine.

958
00:54:24.360 --> 00:54:28.039
<v Speaker 4>Once they moved and someone else knew moved in, I'm

959
00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:29.800
<v Speaker 4>wondering what kind of.

960
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Fits they threw.

961
00:54:31.239 --> 00:54:33.840
<v Speaker 4>Did they disappear for a while, did it ramp up

962
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:35.840
<v Speaker 4>or did it die down, or did it stay the

963
00:54:35.880 --> 00:54:39.800
<v Speaker 4>same because of like that example of don't know wearing

964
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:42.559
<v Speaker 4>that baseball cap and then throwing an absolute fit. They

965
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.880
<v Speaker 4>couldn't stand it. Something I didn't mention in the beginning,

966
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:48.119
<v Speaker 4>which would have been helpful, is that before Donna and

967
00:54:48.159 --> 00:54:51.840
<v Speaker 4>Greg moved in, that property sat vacant for quite a

968
00:54:51.880 --> 00:54:55.000
<v Speaker 4>long time. Now what that is could be for the

969
00:54:55.039 --> 00:54:57.920
<v Speaker 4>same reason that Donna moved out, We don't know, but

970
00:54:58.280 --> 00:55:02.000
<v Speaker 4>it had sat for quite a long while before they

971
00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:05.599
<v Speaker 4>moved in. And then if that's the case, and hey,

972
00:55:05.920 --> 00:55:10.320
<v Speaker 4>maybe they just liked Donna Moore for whatever reason. Could

973
00:55:10.360 --> 00:55:14.719
<v Speaker 4>it be that she was just someone that they just liked,

974
00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.599
<v Speaker 4>they found her entertaining. Maybe the new people moved in

975
00:55:18.119 --> 00:55:19.880
<v Speaker 4>for whatever reason, they're not interested in them.

976
00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:21.039
<v Speaker 3>It could be the same as us.

977
00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.000
<v Speaker 4>We're attracted to certain people, or we find certain people

978
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.400
<v Speaker 4>more interesting. The sound of their voice. I'm sure some

979
00:55:26.400 --> 00:55:28.000
<v Speaker 4>people hear my voice like grating.

980
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:30.360
<v Speaker 3>I get it. I can't stand editing myself.

981
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:35.119
<v Speaker 4>So maybe they are in that realm where they go

982
00:55:36.079 --> 00:55:38.320
<v Speaker 4>I like you, I don't like you, I like you,

983
00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:39.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't like you.

984
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Out of that scene from the movie. I won't use

985
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 3>the verbiage, but you know what I'm saying.

986
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:45.159
<v Speaker 4>It could be or it could just be as simple

987
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:49.920
<v Speaker 4>as were their entertainment, no matter if we're in their

988
00:55:50.840 --> 00:55:54.079
<v Speaker 4>living room, for lack of a better term, if we're

989
00:55:54.079 --> 00:55:55.119
<v Speaker 4>there to watch why not?

990
00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:56.159
<v Speaker 3>Why not?

991
00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:58.760
<v Speaker 4>I do wonder if there's a curtains or blinds in

992
00:55:58.800 --> 00:56:01.320
<v Speaker 4>that house now, if there's still there, I do wonder that.

993
00:56:02.079 --> 00:56:05.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely think I would be putting blinds up

994
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:07.320
<v Speaker 1>in the house. We bought this forty acres that we

995
00:56:07.360 --> 00:56:10.320
<v Speaker 1>live on here in North Carolina back in twenty seventeen,

996
00:56:10.440 --> 00:56:15.079
<v Speaker 1>and we started hearing vocalizations. I cast footprints a couple

997
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:18.559
<v Speaker 1>of years ago sixty yards from our front door. Here.

998
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:23.400
<v Speaker 1>It's unnerving, and we don't have anywhere near the kind

999
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:26.199
<v Speaker 1>of activity they're having there on that property, or we're

1000
00:56:26.239 --> 00:56:28.760
<v Speaker 1>having on that property before they sold it, but it

1001
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:31.679
<v Speaker 1>was still unnerving for us. At first, the vocalizations were

1002
00:56:31.719 --> 00:56:34.559
<v Speaker 1>what sounded like a mile away, and then one night

1003
00:56:34.599 --> 00:56:38.119
<v Speaker 1>they were fifty yards from the house. It's a different feeling.

1004
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:41.199
<v Speaker 1>It's an unnerving thing to feel like there's something out

1005
00:56:41.239 --> 00:56:43.800
<v Speaker 1>there that you don't know what it is. People have

1006
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:46.400
<v Speaker 1>asked me, when you heard that vocalization from fifty yards away,

1007
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:47.800
<v Speaker 1>did you run out there and see what it was?

1008
00:56:47.840 --> 00:56:49.320
<v Speaker 1>I was like, No, I didn't go out there and

1009
00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:52.320
<v Speaker 1>see what it was. I'm not stupid. I was a cop.

1010
00:56:52.519 --> 00:56:55.559
<v Speaker 1>My gut kept me alive in that job. There was

1011
00:56:55.639 --> 00:56:57.519
<v Speaker 1>nothing in me that wanted to see what that was.

1012
00:56:58.400 --> 00:57:00.719
<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of fear involved in that situation.

1013
00:57:00.840 --> 00:57:04.800
<v Speaker 1>So I can't imagine being there the majority of the time,

1014
00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:07.320
<v Speaker 1>like you said, by herself, and dealing with that over

1015
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:10.599
<v Speaker 1>and over. I think they probably handled it longer than

1016
00:57:10.639 --> 00:57:13.119
<v Speaker 1>most people would. I love the audio part of this.

1017
00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:15.800
<v Speaker 1>It seems to be. The more I interview people that

1018
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:20.079
<v Speaker 1>claim to have this habituation or cohabitation situation with Bigfoot.

1019
00:57:20.559 --> 00:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>It's been my experience that those people tend to have

1020
00:57:23.400 --> 00:57:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the least amount of evidence then people who just happen

1021
00:57:27.079 --> 00:57:30.440
<v Speaker 1>upon it and snap a photo or record something. So

1022
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:33.920
<v Speaker 1>it's so cool to me to have those kind of

1023
00:57:33.920 --> 00:57:37.440
<v Speaker 1>eyewitness experiences and then have the audio to back it up.

1024
00:57:38.119 --> 00:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Because audio is what I do for a living. It's

1025
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:43.079
<v Speaker 1>what you do for a living, so I'm very partial

1026
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:46.199
<v Speaker 1>to audio. David is my go to guy. I've got

1027
00:57:46.280 --> 00:57:48.320
<v Speaker 1>him on speed dial on my phone. If somebody sends

1028
00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:50.400
<v Speaker 1>me something, I'll text it to David and say, hey,

1029
00:57:50.480 --> 00:57:52.760
<v Speaker 1>listen to this. Oh it's a bart out. Okay, cool.

1030
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:56.360
<v Speaker 1>But it's so cool to have that resource, and it's

1031
00:57:56.400 --> 00:57:59.199
<v Speaker 1>so important to me. The Sierra Sounds a little bit

1032
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:01.880
<v Speaker 1>of the Sierra say that have been out there forever.

1033
00:58:02.519 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 1>I was up at Ron's house earlier this year and

1034
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:08.440
<v Speaker 1>interviewed him about there's a documentary that is coming out

1035
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:10.159
<v Speaker 1>about the Sierra Sounds that may already be out.

1036
00:58:10.199 --> 00:58:10.639
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

1037
00:58:11.000 --> 00:58:13.159
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, I don't get to watch as much television and

1038
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:15.480
<v Speaker 1>documentaries as i'd like to but I went up there

1039
00:58:15.480 --> 00:58:19.599
<v Speaker 1>specifically to talk to Ron about the unreleased Sierra Sounds.

1040
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:22.159
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got twelve or fourteen hours, maybe even

1041
00:58:22.239 --> 00:58:25.239
<v Speaker 1>more that he hasn't released, and I was like, Ron,

1042
00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:27.639
<v Speaker 1>you gotta let me help you go through this stuff, dude,

1043
00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:31.079
<v Speaker 1>because there's so many people experiencing things in so many

1044
00:58:31.079 --> 00:58:34.119
<v Speaker 1>different places that we could be comparing this to what

1045
00:58:34.159 --> 00:58:37.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys recorded back in the seventies, late sixties, early seventies.

1046
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 1>So hopefully, I think once the documentary is out, I'm

1047
00:58:41.000 --> 00:58:43.840
<v Speaker 1>going to help him categorize some of that stuff so

1048
00:58:43.880 --> 00:58:46.159
<v Speaker 1>that it can trickle out to people. Because I've heard

1049
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:49.239
<v Speaker 1>the samurai chatter that's on the Sierra Sounds when I

1050
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:52.239
<v Speaker 1>was up in Radium, BC, Canada with Tidd standing like

1051
00:58:52.360 --> 00:58:55.960
<v Speaker 1>two years ago. It's unnerving and it's one of the

1052
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:58.280
<v Speaker 1>weirdest things I've ever experienced. And I got to see

1053
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:02.320
<v Speaker 1>these things three times summer out in Washington State. We

1054
00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:05.760
<v Speaker 1>were actually working out of the Olympic Project headquarters when

1055
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.559
<v Speaker 1>I had my experiences. That area holds a special place

1056
00:59:08.599 --> 00:59:12.079
<v Speaker 1>for me. I'm going out on expedition with less Stroud

1057
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:14.039
<v Speaker 1>at some point in time, hopefully in the next month.

1058
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I was trying to get Less to take the expedition there.

1059
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:18.639
<v Speaker 1>I think he wants to do it in Canada, but

1060
00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I have a special place in my heart for that area.

1061
00:59:23.280 --> 00:59:25.880
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about Bigfoot a lot. I know you mentioned

1062
00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:28.599
<v Speaker 1>that you had some other weird experiences. So before we

1063
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:30.599
<v Speaker 1>get out of here, I would be remiss if I

1064
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:33.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't ask you to share your other weird encounters and

1065
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:37.760
<v Speaker 1>or experiences with other unknown creatures in the world.

1066
00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:38.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

1067
00:59:39.079 --> 00:59:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I don't know my inception into Bigfoot, but I

1068
00:59:41.920 --> 00:59:45.320
<v Speaker 4>know my inception into knowing. Now this is a knowing

1069
00:59:45.719 --> 00:59:51.000
<v Speaker 4>situation that other things are out there that we don't

1070
00:59:51.079 --> 00:59:54.280
<v Speaker 4>know what the heck they are. That was when I

1071
00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:58.960
<v Speaker 4>was a teenager. Divorce parents' dad had a cabin in

1072
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Duck Creek, Utah. It's up a mountain from Cedar City.

1073
01:00:03.639 --> 01:00:06.079
<v Speaker 4>A lot of Vegas people go out there day in

1074
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:09.360
<v Speaker 4>day out. We were either fishing or we were on

1075
01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:15.000
<v Speaker 4>our fourlers. This is during the summer, very dry, no clouds,

1076
01:00:15.199 --> 01:00:18.559
<v Speaker 4>no weather drama. The way that the cabins are set

1077
01:00:18.639 --> 01:00:20.719
<v Speaker 4>up up there, it still is. Actually I went back

1078
01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:24.480
<v Speaker 4>there a few years back. Dirt roads pretty much set

1079
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:27.960
<v Speaker 4>up in a semi grid pattern. It's easy to get

1080
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:31.159
<v Speaker 4>around there. We'd be hauling ass everywhere on our fourlers.

1081
01:00:32.119 --> 01:00:35.239
<v Speaker 4>But Dad was a stickler for helmets, which, hey, great,

1082
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:36.119
<v Speaker 4>that's a good idea.

1083
01:00:36.119 --> 01:00:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Everyone shot.

1084
01:00:37.840 --> 01:00:40.760
<v Speaker 4>Dad was down in Cedar City on this particular day.

1085
01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:44.480
<v Speaker 4>Since Dad wasn't around, I didn't have my helmet on.

1086
01:00:44.639 --> 01:00:47.719
<v Speaker 4>I don't recall if my brother or stepbrother did, but

1087
01:00:47.880 --> 01:00:51.480
<v Speaker 4>I didn't. Those things are hot and they just sucked

1088
01:00:51.480 --> 01:00:54.199
<v Speaker 4>a wears the second you can, you tend to take

1089
01:00:54.239 --> 01:00:57.559
<v Speaker 4>them off. The other thing, I'll say, if folks aren't

1090
01:00:58.079 --> 01:01:02.079
<v Speaker 4>privy to it, if you have your goggle on as well.

1091
01:01:02.639 --> 01:01:04.760
<v Speaker 4>They're plastic. You can't have glass in your eyes, so

1092
01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:07.760
<v Speaker 4>they're plastic. You can't see Schissa.

1093
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see what

1094
01:01:11.320 --> 01:01:13.559
<v Speaker 1>right back after these messages.

1095
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Out of those at some parts, but you got to

1096
01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:21.000
<v Speaker 4>have them on. So I didn't have any of that

1097
01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:23.679
<v Speaker 4>gear on. So I could see. I could hear, of course,

1098
01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:27.880
<v Speaker 4>my machine. Mostly it's dusty, it's dry. I'm in the back,

1099
01:01:28.119 --> 01:01:30.039
<v Speaker 4>the boys they're out in front of me. I'm hanging

1100
01:01:30.119 --> 01:01:32.920
<v Speaker 4>back because I'm going get the stickers, like eat my dust.

1101
01:01:33.280 --> 01:01:36.039
<v Speaker 4>I was eating their dust, so I was back. Now

1102
01:01:36.639 --> 01:01:40.840
<v Speaker 4>I mentioned how Salt Fork was extremely brushy like ground brush.

1103
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:42.719
<v Speaker 4>It has the trees, but then they got a lot

1104
01:01:42.760 --> 01:01:47.199
<v Speaker 4>of ground brush there. This area of Duck Creek, Utah

1105
01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:49.960
<v Speaker 4>did not have that. It was a lot of aspen

1106
01:01:50.039 --> 01:01:53.480
<v Speaker 4>trees that don't have a lot going on until they

1107
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:56.280
<v Speaker 4>get higher up, and not a lot of ground brush.

1108
01:01:56.320 --> 01:01:59.119
<v Speaker 4>There was some felled trees a little bit on the ground.

1109
01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:02.119
<v Speaker 4>So that'll come into play here in a moment. At

1110
01:02:02.159 --> 01:02:06.039
<v Speaker 4>some point while I'm writing, I just glanced off into

1111
01:02:06.079 --> 01:02:10.119
<v Speaker 4>the woods again, bright the sunshiny day, not thick woods

1112
01:02:10.159 --> 01:02:13.079
<v Speaker 4>like Washington State in any way, shape or form. You

1113
01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:16.480
<v Speaker 4>have several feet before you hit another tree, but they're

1114
01:02:16.559 --> 01:02:19.800
<v Speaker 4>scattered around. Of course, I look off and I see

1115
01:02:19.800 --> 01:02:26.239
<v Speaker 4>four hitch black human shaped figures. I describe them as

1116
01:02:26.679 --> 01:02:31.320
<v Speaker 4>cutouts from the deepest dark. What is that vanta black

1117
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:34.199
<v Speaker 4>or whatever? Folks call that? Like blacker than black? Right,

1118
01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:36.639
<v Speaker 4>you hear people say that it was blacker than the

1119
01:02:36.719 --> 01:02:42.119
<v Speaker 4>darkness of that black around it, or human shaped essential cutouts.

1120
01:02:42.719 --> 01:02:44.639
<v Speaker 3>We're like two d. It was very strange, and.

1121
01:02:44.599 --> 01:02:46.880
<v Speaker 4>They were pumping their arms and legs and they were

1122
01:02:46.920 --> 01:02:51.039
<v Speaker 4>about thirty feet into the woodline from myself on my machine,

1123
01:02:51.079 --> 01:02:55.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm still going, I'm still writing. They're pumping their legs

1124
01:02:55.239 --> 01:02:58.760
<v Speaker 4>and their arms. I immediately thought, why are you.

1125
01:02:58.800 --> 01:02:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Even doing that?

1126
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:02.519
<v Speaker 4>Like, where are you? Where am I? What's going on here?

1127
01:03:02.599 --> 01:03:05.960
<v Speaker 4>I knew immediately this was something not of this world.

1128
01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:08.519
<v Speaker 4>This is not to say that they were running through

1129
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:11.719
<v Speaker 4>the trees. I don't know how to describe this part.

1130
01:03:11.760 --> 01:03:15.400
<v Speaker 4>It's really hard to do. But they didn't have to dodge,

1131
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:18.760
<v Speaker 4>duck dive all the dodge bowl stuff. They didn't have

1132
01:03:18.840 --> 01:03:21.280
<v Speaker 4>to use the d words in any way, shape or form.

1133
01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:23.639
<v Speaker 4>They weren't going through the trees. It was like they

1134
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:26.519
<v Speaker 4>were in a different place than me completely, And I

1135
01:03:26.639 --> 01:03:31.760
<v Speaker 4>was just seeing this little blip on this screen for

1136
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:34.519
<v Speaker 4>a second of this other place. These homies are doing

1137
01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:37.880
<v Speaker 4>some whatever they're doing, and I'm over here. And I

1138
01:03:37.920 --> 01:03:40.480
<v Speaker 4>watched them for about a five second count, like full

1139
01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:44.440
<v Speaker 4>five seconds, which is actually a decently long time. I mean,

1140
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:47.639
<v Speaker 4>when you're in those situations, it feels more like a

1141
01:03:47.639 --> 01:03:50.239
<v Speaker 4>full minute, but it's really just probably on thousand.

1142
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:51.920
<v Speaker 3>And one, thousand and two, but that was a long time.

1143
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:55.559
<v Speaker 4>Anyhow, I'm still holling ass on my fourwhelder, so I

1144
01:03:55.639 --> 01:03:58.119
<v Speaker 4>do need to check my path again and I do that.

1145
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:01.000
<v Speaker 4>I glanced this way and I glance back and they're gone,

1146
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:02.480
<v Speaker 4>completely gone.

1147
01:04:02.559 --> 01:04:06.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what in the actual nowhere to be seen?

1148
01:04:06.679 --> 01:04:07.360
<v Speaker 3>That was it.

1149
01:04:07.360 --> 01:04:11.199
<v Speaker 4>It was five seconds of seeing essentially, for lack of

1150
01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:15.000
<v Speaker 4>a better term, foreshadow people right, foreshadow beings whatever, and

1151
01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:17.639
<v Speaker 4>the heck these things are now. It did freak me

1152
01:04:17.679 --> 01:04:19.440
<v Speaker 4>out enough to where I caught up to my brother

1153
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:21.800
<v Speaker 4>and my stepbrother and I said, Hey, I'm gonna go

1154
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:24.000
<v Speaker 4>back to the cabin for a little bit, Like.

1155
01:04:23.960 --> 01:04:24.760
<v Speaker 3>What are you talking about.

1156
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:26.039
<v Speaker 4>We just got out of here, and we did this

1157
01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:29.480
<v Speaker 4>all day till our butts were not That's what we did,

1158
01:04:29.519 --> 01:04:30.760
<v Speaker 4>fished or four wheeled.

1159
01:04:31.159 --> 01:04:32.559
<v Speaker 3>I said, now I'm going to go back for a

1160
01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:33.039
<v Speaker 3>little bit.

1161
01:04:33.239 --> 01:04:33.639
<v Speaker 5>I did.

1162
01:04:33.920 --> 01:04:35.800
<v Speaker 4>I actually didn't go running for a couple of days

1163
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:39.840
<v Speaker 4>after that. It wasn't that I was completely utterly terrified.

1164
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:42.199
<v Speaker 4>It's just I was just trying to probably come to

1165
01:04:42.280 --> 01:04:45.079
<v Speaker 4>grips with's what I saw. When my dad got back,

1166
01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:49.400
<v Speaker 4>I did tell him what I saw, and he's ex military,

1167
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:52.840
<v Speaker 4>so he goes, ah, it was just military guys doing

1168
01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:54.400
<v Speaker 4>their exercises or what.

1169
01:04:54.559 --> 01:04:56.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, Dad, No, you don't understand.

1170
01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:03.039
<v Speaker 4>There wasn't a seam rivet nothing to break from.

1171
01:05:02.920 --> 01:05:04.840
<v Speaker 3>Head to toe.

1172
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:08.159
<v Speaker 4>These things looked like this was not some bed of

1173
01:05:08.199 --> 01:05:10.599
<v Speaker 4>the bone gear that they had on that made them

1174
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 4>look like this. If it was, Holy Chisa, I can

1175
01:05:14.480 --> 01:05:15.880
<v Speaker 4>only imagine what we have now.

1176
01:05:15.760 --> 01:05:16.719
<v Speaker 3>If that's what that was.

1177
01:05:16.840 --> 01:05:20.239
<v Speaker 4>He said, no, it's probably just military guys doing an exercise.

1178
01:05:21.320 --> 01:05:23.880
<v Speaker 3>I say no. Still of this day he remembers telling

1179
01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:27.000
<v Speaker 3>me that. By the way, I do say though, even.

1180
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:30.039
<v Speaker 4>Though I didn't go writing for a few days, that

1181
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:33.079
<v Speaker 4>experience would have been so much different from me to

1182
01:05:33.199 --> 01:05:36.199
<v Speaker 4>where it might have terrified me if they had interacted

1183
01:05:36.239 --> 01:05:37.920
<v Speaker 4>with me in any way.

1184
01:05:38.039 --> 01:05:39.360
<v Speaker 3>None of them looked my way.

1185
01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:43.920
<v Speaker 4>They didn't flip me the bird as I'm writing or

1186
01:05:43.960 --> 01:05:44.599
<v Speaker 4>grin at me.

1187
01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:46.639
<v Speaker 3>There was no interaction.

1188
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:50.840
<v Speaker 4>So I do feel that had that happened, that might

1189
01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:56.800
<v Speaker 4>have ratcheted up some form of terror, fright, or changing

1190
01:05:56.840 --> 01:05:58.800
<v Speaker 4>how I felt about going out into the woods or

1191
01:05:58.840 --> 01:06:02.079
<v Speaker 4>going writing. Because I went back out writing. I love

1192
01:06:02.119 --> 01:06:03.360
<v Speaker 4>the wood still to this day.

1193
01:06:04.320 --> 01:06:07.079
<v Speaker 3>I actually don't expect to see anything like that again.

1194
01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:09.800
<v Speaker 4>I talked to so many people on my show. They'll

1195
01:06:09.840 --> 01:06:12.800
<v Speaker 4>send in these lists, and not everybody has to have

1196
01:06:12.840 --> 01:06:14.239
<v Speaker 4>a list to come on my show. By the way,

1197
01:06:14.280 --> 01:06:15.840
<v Speaker 4>I think that people feel like that. They're like, I

1198
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:17.719
<v Speaker 4>don't have a whole list of things. I'm like, hell,

1199
01:06:17.800 --> 01:06:20.199
<v Speaker 4>I don't either. A lot of times, each bullet point

1200
01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:24.239
<v Speaker 4>on that list for people is a completely different one

1201
01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:28.039
<v Speaker 4>off situation, which is just as fascinating as like a

1202
01:06:28.079 --> 01:06:31.599
<v Speaker 4>Donna and Greg situation where you just sit in Bigfoot.

1203
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:32.199
<v Speaker 3>For two hours.

1204
01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:34.599
<v Speaker 4>I actually it was like a three hour conversation with

1205
01:06:35.239 --> 01:06:38.360
<v Speaker 4>David and Donna, and you're just sitting there and you're

1206
01:06:38.400 --> 01:06:42.039
<v Speaker 4>having that conversation. But the one off conversations are just

1207
01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:44.840
<v Speaker 4>as fascinating and just as puzzling, because you go, why

1208
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:46.719
<v Speaker 4>did I only see that one time?

1209
01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Well?

1210
01:06:47.840 --> 01:06:51.159
<v Speaker 4>Was I even looking at some freaky freaking movie from

1211
01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:54.360
<v Speaker 4>the Fifth Dimension? I don't know, but that was my

1212
01:06:55.559 --> 01:06:59.679
<v Speaker 4>oh crap. There's definitely other stuff out there. There's definitely

1213
01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:03.119
<v Speaker 4>other stuff going on. I do recall, and I think

1214
01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:06.039
<v Speaker 4>I've found the paper since and I still have horrible handwriting.

1215
01:07:06.039 --> 01:07:07.039
<v Speaker 3>It's even worse back then.

1216
01:07:07.039 --> 01:07:09.239
<v Speaker 4>But I went around to some of my neighbors and

1217
01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:11.840
<v Speaker 4>I was like the tubs of paper said something like.

1218
01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:13.119
<v Speaker 3>You're a weird experience.

1219
01:07:13.199 --> 01:07:15.920
<v Speaker 4>I'd hand it out nerd Badge, and some people did

1220
01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:18.320
<v Speaker 4>fill that out so I guess even back then, I

1221
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:21.840
<v Speaker 4>was trying to collect stories, trying to collect encounters, and

1222
01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:25.280
<v Speaker 4>you just don't want to be the only one. That's

1223
01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:28.440
<v Speaker 4>why I do the show, and that's why I'm so

1224
01:07:28.559 --> 01:07:30.519
<v Speaker 4>lucky to still have people that want to talk to

1225
01:07:30.559 --> 01:07:33.320
<v Speaker 4>me and still want to listen to me. I'm very

1226
01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:35.800
<v Speaker 4>humble by that. That's where it all comes from. It's

1227
01:07:35.920 --> 01:07:36.880
<v Speaker 4>just that interaction.

1228
01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:40.719
<v Speaker 3>You're not alone. I'm not alone. We're all in this

1229
01:07:40.760 --> 01:07:42.920
<v Speaker 3>little weird group together. Heck yeah.

1230
01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Man.

1231
01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:46.800
<v Speaker 4>It's funny because once people find out your regular job

1232
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:47.440
<v Speaker 4>what you do.

1233
01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:50.280
<v Speaker 3>At first they're like, you should do what a paranormal?

1234
01:07:50.760 --> 01:07:52.280
<v Speaker 3>What you saw what?

1235
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:54.760
<v Speaker 4>They give you that look, But then a couple of

1236
01:07:54.800 --> 01:07:57.000
<v Speaker 4>weeks later they'll come back and go, you know what,

1237
01:07:57.079 --> 01:07:59.880
<v Speaker 4>actually this one time, I'm like, yeah, that's what I thought.

1238
01:08:00.239 --> 01:08:01.679
<v Speaker 3>You know, it happens a lot.

1239
01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:05.159
<v Speaker 4>I think many people have experiences that they're not comfortable

1240
01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:09.440
<v Speaker 4>to share. Totally get it, completely understand. I know, Brian,

1241
01:08:09.480 --> 01:08:11.400
<v Speaker 4>you feel the same way. It's like anybody that is

1242
01:08:11.480 --> 01:08:13.719
<v Speaker 4>willing to come on and share, my goodness, gracious, you

1243
01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:16.239
<v Speaker 4>have no idea how much we appreciate that.

1244
01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:17.800
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely.

1245
01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:19.399
<v Speaker 1>I want to be respectful of your time. But I've

1246
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:21.399
<v Speaker 1>got to ask you this question because you've been doing

1247
01:08:21.439 --> 01:08:24.359
<v Speaker 1>this for a long time, and people told me. When

1248
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:26.399
<v Speaker 1>I first got into this doing the show and talking

1249
01:08:26.399 --> 01:08:30.880
<v Speaker 1>to people and interviewing people about their experiences, people said

1250
01:08:30.880 --> 01:08:32.760
<v Speaker 1>to me, I'm a very flesh and blood guy. I'm

1251
01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:35.520
<v Speaker 1>still very skeptical. I've had my own encounters. I was

1252
01:08:35.560 --> 01:08:38.640
<v Speaker 1>ten feet away from a sasquatch last year, so I

1253
01:08:38.720 --> 01:08:40.920
<v Speaker 1>know these things are real, but I'm still very skeptical

1254
01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:42.560
<v Speaker 1>about people. I say it all the time. I'm not

1255
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:45.439
<v Speaker 1>skeptical about bigfoot. I am skeptical about people and what

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01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:48.520
<v Speaker 1>they put forward as evidence. So I'm always going to

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01:08:48.520 --> 01:08:50.960
<v Speaker 1>be that guy. And people say, how can you be

1258
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:53.560
<v Speaker 1>so skeptical of bigfoot when you've seen it? Again, it's

1259
01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:56.880
<v Speaker 1>not the phenomenon itself, it's the people. But one thing

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01:08:56.920 --> 01:08:59.000
<v Speaker 1>that has happened to me is I've seen a progression.

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01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm a very nuts bolts, flesh and blood kind of guy.

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01:09:02.239 --> 01:09:04.840
<v Speaker 1>If I've planted my flag in any camp, it's always

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01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:07.359
<v Speaker 1>been in the flesh and blood camp. But even my

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01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:11.239
<v Speaker 1>own experiences of seeing glowing white eyes and some of

1265
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:16.600
<v Speaker 1>the weirder things that people describe in conjunction with sometimes

1266
01:09:16.600 --> 01:09:20.479
<v Speaker 1>simultaneously with having these experiences with bigfoot. I think you

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01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:22.640
<v Speaker 1>mentioned it early in the interview. You would put those

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01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:25.119
<v Speaker 1>into boxes of Okay, that's weird, but we're here to

1269
01:09:25.159 --> 01:09:27.880
<v Speaker 1>talk about bigfoot. I don't do that so much anymore

1270
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.720
<v Speaker 1>when I've talked to people. I've even had interviews just

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01:09:30.760 --> 01:09:32.680
<v Speaker 1>as recently as a couple of days ago, where people

1272
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:35.680
<v Speaker 1>are telling me, Hey, I do UFO research while I'm

1273
01:09:35.720 --> 01:09:38.560
<v Speaker 1>out looking for bigfoot, and I'm seeing a lot of

1274
01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:41.680
<v Speaker 1>correlations there. So people have told me, Hey, the longer

1275
01:09:41.720 --> 01:09:44.000
<v Speaker 1>you're in this, you're going to go into the WU camp,

1276
01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:46.640
<v Speaker 1>or you're going to move into that high strangeness camp

1277
01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:49.960
<v Speaker 1>because you're going to have those experiences yourself, or you're

1278
01:09:49.960 --> 01:09:52.640
<v Speaker 1>going to talk to enough people that convince you. Has

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01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:54.720
<v Speaker 1>that been the case for you? Has that been a

1280
01:09:55.119 --> 01:09:57.239
<v Speaker 1>progression for you? And I'm certainly not asking you to

1281
01:09:57.279 --> 01:10:00.920
<v Speaker 1>plan a flag anywhere, but has that been the case

1282
01:10:00.960 --> 01:10:02.560
<v Speaker 1>for you. The longer you've been in this and the

1283
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:05.359
<v Speaker 1>more people you've talked to, are you more open to

1284
01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:09.279
<v Speaker 1>those other high strangeness or weird experiences? And do you

1285
01:10:09.359 --> 01:10:11.800
<v Speaker 1>think there is a possibility that there may be some

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01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:15.560
<v Speaker 1>correlation with these creatures and some of those high strangeness events.

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01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.880
<v Speaker 4>I am one hundred percent essentially what you just said.

1288
01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:22.039
<v Speaker 4>The longer that I do this, Let's face it, there

1289
01:10:22.119 --> 01:10:24.520
<v Speaker 4>are no experts in this like those of you that

1290
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:27.199
<v Speaker 4>have actually seen these things with your own eyes. You

1291
01:10:27.239 --> 01:10:30.319
<v Speaker 4>can speak to this much better than someone like myself

1292
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:32.680
<v Speaker 4>who has not laid eyes on how it moves.

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01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:34.000
<v Speaker 3>All of the.

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01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.800
<v Speaker 4>Attributes that we hear about bigfoot, right, But if anyone

1295
01:10:37.800 --> 01:10:39.680
<v Speaker 4>says they're an expert, just run.

1296
01:10:40.319 --> 01:10:41.960
<v Speaker 3>It cannot be. It just cannot be.

1297
01:10:42.119 --> 01:10:46.760
<v Speaker 4>It is impossible unless you are hiding one in your garage.

1298
01:10:47.159 --> 01:10:49.680
<v Speaker 4>You do know more, and in that case, shame on

1299
01:10:49.760 --> 01:10:52.720
<v Speaker 4>you for not sharing with the world. Improving that once

1300
01:10:52.800 --> 01:10:55.159
<v Speaker 4>and for all. We're not freaks for talking about bigfoot

1301
01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:58.239
<v Speaker 4>and thinking they're out there. But yes, the more I

1302
01:10:58.319 --> 01:11:01.840
<v Speaker 4>try to sit into one side of the flesh and

1303
01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:05.399
<v Speaker 4>blood man, that stuff just comes up.

1304
01:11:05.439 --> 01:11:09.680
<v Speaker 3>And the people that I talked to, I believe that

1305
01:11:09.840 --> 01:11:11.800
<v Speaker 3>they believe what happened to them.

1306
01:11:12.520 --> 01:11:15.760
<v Speaker 4>If not, Brad Pitt, get out of here because they

1307
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:17.079
<v Speaker 4>need to take your freaking job.

1308
01:11:17.159 --> 01:11:17.479
<v Speaker 3>Dude.

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01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:21.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying that's impossible by any means, but over

1310
01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:25.560
<v Speaker 4>and over again, there's just these strange things that happen

1311
01:11:25.800 --> 01:11:31.199
<v Speaker 4>when you are out bigfooting. I neglected to mention those slaps.

1312
01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:35.800
<v Speaker 4>It was like the mountain from Game of Thrones had

1313
01:11:35.880 --> 01:11:41.199
<v Speaker 4>been open handed, just smacking the sheisa out of these buildings.

1314
01:11:41.439 --> 01:11:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Just boom. We all run out.

1315
01:11:43.640 --> 01:11:47.000
<v Speaker 4>We just had this freaking orb situation which we all

1316
01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:50.720
<v Speaker 4>were like, no, this is not happening. Slaps to the building.

1317
01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:53.760
<v Speaker 4>We all run out to where the slaps were. Nothing there,

1318
01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:57.640
<v Speaker 4>nobody there, nothing there, plenty of open area. If that

1319
01:11:57.840 --> 01:12:02.640
<v Speaker 4>was a person, my goodness, g go run on the

1320
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:05.560
<v Speaker 4>three hundred meter track because I don't know how they

1321
01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:06.880
<v Speaker 4>got out of there so fast.

1322
01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Now am I saying that's bigfoot? No, I don't know.

1323
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Nobody saw what made those smacking noises. I wonder what

1324
01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:15.439
<v Speaker 4>Wes says about that now, because I'm sure that all

1325
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:18.039
<v Speaker 4>of our recollections are slightly different of such a thing.

1326
01:12:18.640 --> 01:12:20.199
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, long winded way of saying.

1327
01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:25.079
<v Speaker 4>I tend to ebb and flow some days with where

1328
01:12:25.119 --> 01:12:30.239
<v Speaker 4>I really sit with things, but not having at least

1329
01:12:30.279 --> 01:12:33.319
<v Speaker 4>an open mind enough to say that there is a

1330
01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:38.439
<v Speaker 4>possibility of something else going on. I don't know, it's

1331
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:41.479
<v Speaker 4>just cutting things off at the knees when we do

1332
01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:44.680
<v Speaker 4>need to keep the full picture, like editing out certain

1333
01:12:44.720 --> 01:12:48.159
<v Speaker 4>parts of reports because it doesn't align with where you

1334
01:12:48.199 --> 01:12:48.760
<v Speaker 4>want it to be.

1335
01:12:48.840 --> 01:12:50.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't even want Bigfoot to be paranormal.

1336
01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:52.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't want it to be because then I feel

1337
01:12:52.720 --> 01:12:54.840
<v Speaker 4>like it'll never be proven. We're never going to figure

1338
01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:57.239
<v Speaker 4>out what it is you. I want to see him

1339
01:12:57.279 --> 01:13:00.560
<v Speaker 4>in a zoo like a gorilla. Absolutely knots. That's horrible.

1340
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:05.920
<v Speaker 4>Once you lamb bass people for not getting the video

1341
01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:12.279
<v Speaker 4>or not getting this or that, it's unfortunate because the

1342
01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:16.840
<v Speaker 4>community is such that it just eats its own tail

1343
01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:19.520
<v Speaker 4>the whole time. So there's so many people that might

1344
01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:24.119
<v Speaker 4>actually have insane evidence. But you know what, with AI

1345
01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:27.359
<v Speaker 4>now doesn't even really matter. Nothing has even come across

1346
01:13:27.359 --> 01:13:30.479
<v Speaker 4>my radar lately that I think is even two shakes

1347
01:13:30.479 --> 01:13:32.640
<v Speaker 4>of a lamb tail worth a down because you just

1348
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:36.960
<v Speaker 4>cannot tell anymore. We're screwed in that regard, unfortunately. So

1349
01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:41.720
<v Speaker 4>when you have folks that come on and they do say, no,

1350
01:13:41.920 --> 01:13:45.960
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't eyeshine, it wasn't a reflection that was glowing

1351
01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:50.520
<v Speaker 4>talking about it was glowing and reflecting off of the

1352
01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:54.079
<v Speaker 4>foliage that it was next to what do you do

1353
01:13:54.159 --> 01:13:57.279
<v Speaker 4>with that tracks that just stop in the middle of nowhere,

1354
01:13:57.640 --> 01:14:01.439
<v Speaker 4>with nowhere for even something that's the Liam Neeson of

1355
01:14:01.439 --> 01:14:05.439
<v Speaker 4>the Woods didn't have somewhere to jump to to have

1356
01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:08.760
<v Speaker 4>those tracks stop there. And of course, Brian, like part

1357
01:14:08.800 --> 01:14:11.760
<v Speaker 4>of me is like wanting to go into interview mode

1358
01:14:11.800 --> 01:14:13.880
<v Speaker 4>and ask you all these questions, but I'll save that

1359
01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:16.000
<v Speaker 4>for my show when you come on, because you just

1360
01:14:16.079 --> 01:14:18.840
<v Speaker 4>throwing those nuggets in there. I'm like, oh, at least

1361
01:14:18.880 --> 01:14:22.399
<v Speaker 4>ten feet Oh god, yeah, I don't know. Basically, more

1362
01:14:22.399 --> 01:14:25.399
<v Speaker 4>people need to say I don't know, I don't know.

1363
01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:28.960
<v Speaker 4>We need to see what's doing, and everybody can make

1364
01:14:29.039 --> 01:14:31.560
<v Speaker 4>up their own minds, of course, and they already have and.

1365
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:34.239
<v Speaker 3>They argue about it online every day. Bless them.

1366
01:14:34.399 --> 01:14:36.279
<v Speaker 4>I would love for them to be flesh and blood.

1367
01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:42.640
<v Speaker 4>But why hasn't just one kind of daffy bigfoot just

1368
01:14:42.800 --> 01:14:45.600
<v Speaker 4>aft it up for the whole rest of them, you

1369
01:14:45.640 --> 01:14:47.680
<v Speaker 4>know what I mean? Like they get clipped by the

1370
01:14:47.800 --> 01:14:52.159
<v Speaker 4>dude in the semi that's actually got his buddy in

1371
01:14:52.239 --> 01:14:55.560
<v Speaker 4>the cab with them, that can get a five hundred

1372
01:14:55.560 --> 01:14:56.399
<v Speaker 4>pound bigfoot.

1373
01:14:56.520 --> 01:15:00.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Why hasn't a daffy one slipped off

1374
01:15:00.239 --> 01:15:02.600
<v Speaker 3>of a cliff it is strange.

1375
01:15:02.760 --> 01:15:06.520
<v Speaker 4>However, I am of the mind that they usually run

1376
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:07.800
<v Speaker 4>with others.

1377
01:15:08.079 --> 01:15:10.600
<v Speaker 3>That is their whole limo. It's to avoid us. We're shitty,

1378
01:15:10.640 --> 01:15:14.760
<v Speaker 3>so I get it. People suck, so that's their wholemo. Yeah.

1379
01:15:14.800 --> 01:15:16.600
<v Speaker 3>I think they could bury their dead. Yeah.

1380
01:15:16.680 --> 01:15:19.600
<v Speaker 4>I think that when they pass away, just like other animals,

1381
01:15:19.640 --> 01:15:23.319
<v Speaker 4>they go somewhere quiet, to be alone in a hole

1382
01:15:23.520 --> 01:15:27.880
<v Speaker 4>under a tree, and they're gone. Even Cliff Brickman talks

1383
01:15:27.880 --> 01:15:31.600
<v Speaker 4>about when elephants pass away, it takes only like six

1384
01:15:31.640 --> 01:15:35.960
<v Speaker 4>months for it to be picked apart and all the

1385
01:15:36.000 --> 01:15:40.000
<v Speaker 4>tissues to be birds and all the predatory things come

1386
01:15:40.039 --> 01:15:42.920
<v Speaker 4>in and things get scattered, and then floods happen and

1387
01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:46.560
<v Speaker 4>whatever else might go on in the wilds.

1388
01:15:46.960 --> 01:15:49.760
<v Speaker 3>So I can see both sides of it.

1389
01:15:49.920 --> 01:15:52.880
<v Speaker 4>Basically, it's just because I saw that light out while

1390
01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:57.880
<v Speaker 4>I was bigfooting. I don't automatically say, of course it's paranormal.

1391
01:15:57.920 --> 01:15:59.680
<v Speaker 4>I was out for bigfoot and I saw an orb. No,

1392
01:15:59.840 --> 01:16:02.319
<v Speaker 4>that could be something totally different. That was super cool

1393
01:16:02.359 --> 01:16:04.319
<v Speaker 4>to see, but it did piss me off a little bit.

1394
01:16:04.399 --> 01:16:06.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, no, we are not here for this. No,

1395
01:16:07.039 --> 01:16:10.119
<v Speaker 4>we want some bigfoot, damn it, we want some trust beat,

1396
01:16:10.159 --> 01:16:11.600
<v Speaker 4>and I think we all felt like that, to be

1397
01:16:11.640 --> 01:16:13.920
<v Speaker 4>honest with you, we were all laughing about that. But

1398
01:16:14.079 --> 01:16:16.079
<v Speaker 4>it was still a really cool experience and I wouldn't

1399
01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:18.600
<v Speaker 4>change a thing about the people. You know, you learn

1400
01:16:18.680 --> 01:16:20.479
<v Speaker 4>things about people as you moved through. There are some

1401
01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:23.359
<v Speaker 4>amazing people in all of this if you stick to

1402
01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:26.520
<v Speaker 4>your truth, whatever that is. Just keep a little bit

1403
01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:27.439
<v Speaker 4>of an open mind.

1404
01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:30.960
<v Speaker 1>We've talked about it multiple times. Tell everybody what they

1405
01:16:30.960 --> 01:16:33.239
<v Speaker 1>can expect when they go check out into the Fray.

1406
01:16:33.960 --> 01:16:35.439
<v Speaker 1>What are they going to get when they get there?

1407
01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:38.079
<v Speaker 1>What's the show about? Give us the full rundown.

1408
01:16:38.520 --> 01:16:42.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so tomorrow actually is my official ten year anniversary,

1409
01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:45.079
<v Speaker 4>which is wild. I said it before, and I know

1410
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:48.880
<v Speaker 4>that you agree. Like again to anybody who's ever listened, emailed,

1411
01:16:49.239 --> 01:16:52.399
<v Speaker 4>come on the show, especially because that's a whole another level.

1412
01:16:52.800 --> 01:16:55.880
<v Speaker 4>I get it can be stressful. Thank you, thank you

1413
01:16:55.920 --> 01:16:57.800
<v Speaker 4>to anyone who has ever done that. But it is

1414
01:16:57.880 --> 01:17:00.439
<v Speaker 4>into the Fray. Radio dot Com is the way site,

1415
01:17:00.479 --> 01:17:06.800
<v Speaker 4>and then of course all the usual podcatchers, Apple, Spotify, iHeart,

1416
01:17:06.920 --> 01:17:09.720
<v Speaker 4>I do have YouTube. I am going to be doing

1417
01:17:09.760 --> 01:17:14.920
<v Speaker 4>more video on YouTube, finally probably doing what I'm doing

1418
01:17:14.960 --> 01:17:16.119
<v Speaker 4>now with Uma as well.

1419
01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:17.439
<v Speaker 3>Record it.

1420
01:17:17.439 --> 01:17:21.640
<v Speaker 4>It's on their audio with static imagery right now, always

1421
01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:25.640
<v Speaker 4>has been, Yeah, it's not all Bigfoot. I thought that

1422
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.680
<v Speaker 4>it would be a little bit more genuine to my

1423
01:17:28.840 --> 01:17:32.600
<v Speaker 4>background if once I left SC I thought I probably

1424
01:17:32.640 --> 01:17:36.079
<v Speaker 4>would like to do the multi topic show, and so

1425
01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:37.119
<v Speaker 4>I moved into that.

1426
01:17:37.439 --> 01:17:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I love it.

1427
01:17:38.079 --> 01:17:42.319
<v Speaker 4>I still do. I wouldn't change a thing about it.

1428
01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:45.720
<v Speaker 4>It's UFOs, it's hauntings, it's Bigfoot. Some of my favorite

1429
01:17:45.720 --> 01:17:49.359
<v Speaker 4>stuff is the stuff that you just can't quite even.

1430
01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Put in the UFO Ghost Bigfoot box. It's one of

1431
01:17:53.760 --> 01:17:56.199
<v Speaker 3>those what the actual hell was that? Nobody knows.

1432
01:17:57.159 --> 01:17:59.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna have the answer, but I always tell

1433
01:17:59.560 --> 01:18:01.680
<v Speaker 4>people because they reach out and they go and they

1434
01:18:01.680 --> 01:18:03.119
<v Speaker 4>probably do this to you as well.

1435
01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:04.880
<v Speaker 3>They go, gosh, I would love.

1436
01:18:04.720 --> 01:18:06.199
<v Speaker 4>To talk to you, so you can tell me what

1437
01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:09.000
<v Speaker 4>this is, and you're like, bro, I can't, it ain't me.

1438
01:18:09.680 --> 01:18:12.640
<v Speaker 4>And if they tell you and it's them, you run.

1439
01:18:13.119 --> 01:18:15.960
<v Speaker 4>But what they can do is they can come on

1440
01:18:16.680 --> 01:18:19.560
<v Speaker 4>and then hopefully there's some little nugget in what they

1441
01:18:19.640 --> 01:18:24.319
<v Speaker 4>said that sparks someone else to reach out to you

1442
01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:27.479
<v Speaker 4>or to me on behalf of that guest.

1443
01:18:27.640 --> 01:18:31.079
<v Speaker 3>It goes back to that they're not alone. They're not alone.

1444
01:18:31.239 --> 01:18:35.159
<v Speaker 4>It's always those little weird things that it's like a

1445
01:18:35.199 --> 01:18:36.960
<v Speaker 4>caveat or something like, oh wait, you know what they're

1446
01:18:37.000 --> 01:18:39.920
<v Speaker 4>And also there's this really weird thing about this bigger

1447
01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:44.840
<v Speaker 4>picture thing. And sometimes there's those little strange little nuggets

1448
01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:47.319
<v Speaker 4>that gets it clicking for somebody out there listening, and

1449
01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:50.439
<v Speaker 4>that's what gets them to reach out. And that's all

1450
01:18:50.439 --> 01:18:53.079
<v Speaker 4>we can do, is we just we keep getting the

1451
01:18:53.199 --> 01:18:57.279
<v Speaker 4>encounters out there, and we keep letting people know, no,

1452
01:18:57.439 --> 01:18:58.279
<v Speaker 4>you are not weird.

1453
01:18:58.880 --> 01:19:01.239
<v Speaker 3>You might be weird of your friends family, but hey.

1454
01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:03.720
<v Speaker 4>You come on in here because we're in this weird

1455
01:19:03.800 --> 01:19:07.439
<v Speaker 4>little holler over here flying our freak flags.

1456
01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:09.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Just thanks to everybody.

1457
01:19:09.560 --> 01:19:12.319
<v Speaker 4>It's been quite the ride, and I hope to continue

1458
01:19:12.359 --> 01:19:14.960
<v Speaker 4>to do it as long as my annoying voice will

1459
01:19:14.960 --> 01:19:15.720
<v Speaker 4>still hold out.

1460
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:18.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm probably still going to do into the Fray. Sorry everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. It is a fantastic show. We like

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<v Speaker 1>to make it easy for everybody here. It'll be linked

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes. If you guys go over to

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<v Speaker 1>Paranormal World Productions dot com check out the sasquatch Otasy

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<v Speaker 1>blog at the top of the page. I will link

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<v Speaker 1>to it there you go. Show us some love on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Check it out on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever

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<v Speaker 1>you're listening to us right now, you can find into

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<v Speaker 1>the Fray. You can find Shannon and get some of

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<v Speaker 1>these amazing stories. Show us some love on YouTube. I

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<v Speaker 1>know what the YouTube world is like. It's rough out there, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>We take all the help we can get. Go watch

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<v Speaker 1>some videos. Give us some like subscribe to the channel. Shannon.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming on and spending the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had an absolute blast talking to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. I cannot wait to have you on my show.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much. Brian.

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<v Speaker 6>They say you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay,

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<v Speaker 6>and I don't want to be. We're all lopping science

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<v Speaker 6>trying to try that chart everything. Call me, ride back

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<v Speaker 6>right back, Joy for me, Joy.

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<v Speaker 7>Stay right there, coming right away.

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<v Speaker 8>In Stays Steps still start said sat Stars Inside Stay

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<v Speaker 8>State still States, games and Games still stays Studs wings

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<v Speaker 8>in fans used to pastor of fences
