1 00:00:08,759 --> 00:00:11,359 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't 2 00:00:11,359 --> 00:00:15,199 Be Serious Podcast Special Edition five Minutes of Fire. We're 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,320 here talking about the lyrics of We Didn't Start the 4 00:00:18,359 --> 00:00:21,199 Fire by Billy Joel. We're covering only five minutes at 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,079 a time, which is about to lengthen the song, so 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,399 it works out kind of nicely. So please join us 7 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:28,920 as we dive into some new lyrics today. 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: All right, guys, so here are the topics that we're 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,359 going to be covering today. We've got Joe Demagio. 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: Joe McCarthy and Richard Nixon. 11 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 2: Part one Jomaggio, Joe mccaffee. 12 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,520 Speaker 1: Richard, Missus Jason, what can you tell me about Joe Demaggio. 13 00:00:42,759 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: Joe Demagio number five started out his rookie year is 14 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:48,320 number nine. Most people don't know that. Also known as Joelton, 15 00:00:48,439 --> 00:00:51,960 Joe Yankee Clipper Joe Dee played all thirteen years as 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,039 the Yankee center fielder. 17 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: You mentioned Missus Robinson because of Doris Day. Missus Robinson 18 00:00:56,679 --> 00:01:15,719 the song they mentioned Jolten. Joe is left and Gone away. 19 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:12,519 Speaker 2: And known for being a nine time World Series champ. 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,159 The only person who has more Yogi berra He's got ten, 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,000 especially known for his fifty six game hitting streak, which 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,959 most people believe that is unbreakable. Nobody over touched it ever. Again, 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,879 it's incredible. Three time AL MVP, two time batting champ, 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,599 two time home run leader, two time RBI leader. I mean, 25 00:01:26,599 --> 00:01:29,079 we're talking about the Yankees set the franchise record for 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:30,879 thirty six home runs as a rookie. 27 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: So he's a baseball player. 28 00:01:32,239 --> 00:01:35,159 Speaker 2: Didnight I say he was a baseball player. I'm sorry. 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,480 I'm familiar with him, so I just figured everybody else was. 30 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,159 Most people don't realize this. He would have likely had 31 00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:45,280 many more awards, accolades, World Series rings if not for 32 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,040 military service right in the middle of his prime. He 33 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,799 went to war from nineteen forty three February of nineteen 34 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:54,079 forty three to September of nineteen forty five. His first 35 00:01:54,079 --> 00:01:56,239 wife was an actress. Her name was Dorothy Arnold. I 36 00:01:56,239 --> 00:01:57,519 sent you a picture of her yesterday. 37 00:01:57,519 --> 00:01:58,959 Speaker 1: She looks like Madonna, she does. 38 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,799 Speaker 2: His second wife, though very well known, Marilyn Monroe. 39 00:02:02,879 --> 00:02:04,599 Speaker 1: That one lasted all of nine months. 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: Eight months, okay, but they rekindled later in life, and 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,080 many people thought they were on their way to going 42 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,400 back together and when he died, his dying words were 43 00:02:14,719 --> 00:02:15,759 on my way to see Maryland. 44 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:16,199 Speaker 1: Wow. 45 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,199 Speaker 2: In pop culture, you may have heard him referred to 46 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,439 on Looney Tunes Daddy Screaming, a Porky going steal Home. 47 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,960 Debasio Simon and Garfunkal mentioned him and Missus Robinson as 48 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,520 you said. Bon Jovi mentions him, and Captain Crash and 49 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:35,800 the Beauty Queen from Mars. Madonna mentions him in Vogue, 50 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:38,560 and John Fogerty mentions him in the song of Course 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,800 center Field. All right, Dee, what do you know about 52 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:42,680 Joe McCarthy. 53 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,719 Speaker 1: Okay? Joe McCarthy was a Republican Senator from Wisconsin. He 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,919 was elected in nineteen forty seven, but his claimed fame 55 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,680 happens in February of nineteen fifty. This is our first 56 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,159 guy from nineteen fifty. We've had all the forty nine 57 00:02:57,199 --> 00:03:00,719 s now to fifty. He comes out, has in his 58 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,199 hand that he never shows to anybody, has a list 59 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,439 in his hand and says, I have a list of 60 00:03:05,599 --> 00:03:10,080 Communist Party members and Soviet spies who are employed by 61 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,240 the State Department, and starts what is one of the 62 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,120 biggest what they would call witch hunts in history, trying 63 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,960 to accuse and prosecute anybody he can of being a 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,800 Kami or a Soviet spy or a Soviet sympathizer. He 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:29,560 said they had infiltrated the federal government, they had infiltrated universities, 66 00:03:29,599 --> 00:03:32,439 the film industry, all kinds of stuff. Now it was 67 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,599 really hot and heavy, and he was the star of 68 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,840 the hour. This is the guy. This is the original 69 00:03:36,919 --> 00:03:40,400 cancel culture right here. Like if you were in Hollywood 70 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,080 and you were accused of being a communist and couldn't 71 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,240 refute it, you got lacklisted or worse. But his doings 72 00:03:47,479 --> 00:03:51,000 led to the term McCarthyism, which also occurred in nineteen fifty. 73 00:03:51,039 --> 00:03:54,520 At first it meant anti communist. Now it means a 74 00:03:54,639 --> 00:03:58,719 reckless and unstable accusation. By nineteen fifty four, though his 75 00:03:59,159 --> 00:04:03,120 popularity had seriously plummeted, he was involved in a big 76 00:04:03,159 --> 00:04:06,199 battle with the army. It was the Army McCarthy hearings, 77 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,280 because the army had said he had tried to use 78 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:11,080 his power to do inappropriate things with the army. And 79 00:04:11,199 --> 00:04:15,280 then there was a senator named Lester C. Hunt. His 80 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,920 son had gotten caught propositioning, and a male undercover officer, 81 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,399 which normally would have been kind of swept under the rug, 82 00:04:22,519 --> 00:04:25,319 but McCarthy got word of this used it to pressure 83 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,600 him to not run for reelection, and the senator said, 84 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:30,759 I will not run for reelection and then blew his 85 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,800 brains out in his office. Joe McCarthy was not the 86 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,759 star anymore after that, and just three years later, nineteen 87 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,600 fifty seven, he went to the hospital and dropped dead 88 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:44,120 of what was called acute hepatitis, but probably he drank 89 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:44,879 himself to death. 90 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,519 Speaker 2: Wow, what can you tell us about the first round 91 00:04:47,519 --> 00:04:48,360 with Richard Nixon? 92 00:04:48,399 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: So Richard Nixon was a member of the House of 93 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,160 Representatives at the same time. He was from California, but 94 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:58,120 he became involved in the trial of Alger Hisss. Alger 95 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,279 Hisss was a guy who had helped Charter the UN 96 00:05:01,519 --> 00:05:03,959 was a member of the UN but he had been 97 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,800 accused of being a member of the Communist Party and 98 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,160 a Communist spy, and Nixon was the guy who presented 99 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,600 the evidence that helped prove him guilty. In nineteen fifty 100 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:17,360 this advanced Nixon's political career and he soon ran for 101 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,240 the Senate and won, and then he later became the 102 00:05:20,319 --> 00:05:23,319 Vice President under Dwight D. Eisenhower and then later he 103 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,600 would become president too, but we will have to save 104 00:05:25,639 --> 00:05:28,079 that story for a different day. Okay, guys, that does 105 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:30,439 it for today's episode. Join us next time for five 106 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,079 minutes of fire.