Speaker 1: This is later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast.
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Speaker 2: Stanley Milford Junior graduated from the United States Indian Police
Speaker 2: Academy at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Artisia,
Speaker 2: New Mexico, worked continuously as an officer for over twenty
Speaker 2: three years. He's written about his experiences in a very
Speaker 2: unusual memoir, The Paranormal Ranger, A Navajo Investigator's search for
Speaker 2: the Unexplained. And we're joined now by Stanley Milford Junior.
Speaker 3: Hello, good morning, lead.
Speaker 2: Good have you here, sir? So can you tell me here?
Speaker 2: Can you tell me the first paranormal experience you had
Speaker 2: as an officer.
Speaker 3: As an officer, one of the early earliest cases, even
Speaker 3: before I was a part of the Special Projects unit,
Speaker 3: was a what would be turned as a livestock utilation case,
Speaker 3: and it involved a family that had lost twenty six
Speaker 3: sheep within their sheep crown. They woke up and all
Speaker 3: of these sheep, each individual sheep was slit from the
Speaker 3: throat area, neck area all the way down to the
Speaker 3: groin area. And unlike those cases that involved a predatory kill,
Speaker 3: where you'll have the entrails and blood and all of
Speaker 3: that stuff within that immediate area. It wasn't like that
Speaker 3: they were all slit open like that, but there was
Speaker 3: no They were all dead, but there was no there
Speaker 3: was no blood or anything like that within the corral.
Speaker 3: It's pretty shocking.
Speaker 2: And there were a lot of them. It wasn't just
Speaker 2: a few.
Speaker 3: There was twenty six, twenty six heads of sheep. The
Speaker 3: sheep dogs that were a part of that morale or
Speaker 3: that group of sheep wouldn't come around the corral. And
Speaker 3: there was an odd, really odd odor, kind of a
Speaker 3: petroleum melling odor involved around the corral.
Speaker 2: The paranormal ranger a Navajo investigator search for the unexplained.
Speaker 2: So did this did this did you start seeing paranormal
Speaker 2: activities right away? Or is it over the course of
Speaker 2: the several years that you were UH serving as an
Speaker 2: officer that you compiled all of.
Speaker 3: These Actually they once I got uh commissioned and began
Speaker 3: work as a now a ranger, I was seeing uh
Speaker 3: incidents were involving the paranormal UFOs and things of this nature.
Speaker 2: Were you ever able to come to some simple explanations
Speaker 2: of some of the.
Speaker 3: Cases, Well, there was one haunting case that I took
Speaker 3: care of that had the phenomenon known as an a
Speaker 3: port where we had coins that would materialize out of
Speaker 3: thin air and fall on the floor. And this kind
Speaker 3: of shaped my view of this idea of portals or
Speaker 3: other dimensions and other planes of existence. And I come
Speaker 3: to surmise, both me and Jonathan Dover, my partner at
Speaker 3: the time, that all of these things that we referred
Speaker 3: to as the paranormal are interconnected by this phenomenon of dimensions,
Speaker 3: whether it's Bigfoot or UFOs or ghosts or even the
Speaker 3: witchcraft stuff.
Speaker 2: Makes sense. Stanley Milford Junior, who has written a book
Speaker 2: it's called The Paranormal Ranger, A Navajo Investigator's Search for
Speaker 2: the Unexplained. You were raised as a Navajo. What does
Speaker 2: the Native American teachings that you learned growing up, what
Speaker 2: do they say about paranormal activity.
Speaker 3: Well, because it's an indigenous culture and you have like
Speaker 3: five hundred and seventy something Native American tribes here in
Speaker 3: the United States, not to mention Canada and Mexico, each
Speaker 3: one of them have connections with things like star people,
Speaker 3: and this idea of humans here on this planet coming
Speaker 3: from some other location within the universe, so it's kind
Speaker 3: of intertwined. You know, on the Naval reservation, it's twenty
Speaker 3: seven thousand square miles of reservation, you know, the size
Speaker 3: of West Virginia. And in a lot of that area,
Speaker 3: because it's in Arizona, you have like red drop canyon
Speaker 3: formations on these canyons. You have pictographs and petroglyphs from
Speaker 3: the previous civilizations that depict things that might people might
Speaker 3: infer as UFOs or star people or big would and
Speaker 3: a lot of different things. So it's intertwined.
Speaker 2: The paranormal Ranger.
Speaker 3: And I did grow up around Tahlequah, Oklahoma too. Oh Okay,
Speaker 3: I did live in that part of your country too.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't just Navajo. I mean you got a
Speaker 2: lot of the Cherokee heritage as well well.
Speaker 3: When I was two years old, my mother and father
Speaker 3: separated and took my mother took me and my older
Speaker 3: sister back to Taalaquah, where she was from, and we
Speaker 3: were raised in the school there. But in the summertimes
Speaker 3: we would my father would fly us out to the
Speaker 3: reservation and we'd spend some of our summers.
Speaker 2: Did you did you speak either of the languages.
Speaker 3: I tried basically because I had a really hardcore hit
Speaker 3: accident kind of class with the way things are pronouncement Navo,
Speaker 3: so I didn't really pick up on it. A lot
Speaker 3: of times I was made fun of, but I had
Speaker 3: people that would hear me try to pronounced Navo words.
Speaker 3: So I made a decision, as a little boy that
Speaker 3: you know, I was, I chose not to do that.
Speaker 3: I did learn some of the words over the years
Speaker 3: working there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stanley Milferd Junior, he is the Nava, the Paranormal Ranger,
Speaker 2: a Navajo investigator search for the unexplained. Did you ever
Speaker 2: encounter a paranormal event where whatever it was was speaking
Speaker 2: that language.
Speaker 3: There was a haunting case where I went into a building,
Speaker 3: an office space that was experiencing haunting and I had
Speaker 3: something placed a hand or finger on my upper lip
Speaker 3: and move it across. And immediately following that, there was
Speaker 3: two male voices that were talking to each other and
Speaker 3: that could have been in the Navo language too. I
Speaker 3: couldn't make out what they were saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you heard a human voice though it was distinct.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, definitely, definitely.
Speaker 2: Stanley Milford Junior, the Navajo he's the paranormal Ranger Navajo
Speaker 2: investigator search for the Unexplained. And in your book you
Speaker 2: also talk about how you believe that the paranormal events
Speaker 2: seem to be there, seem to be more and more
Speaker 2: of them, and there's a reason behind that.
Speaker 3: I think that, you know, you'd be hard pressed to
Speaker 3: find a family throughout the world that does not have
Speaker 3: a family member somewhere in their family tree that has
Speaker 3: not experienced some form of paranormal experience, whether that's the
Speaker 3: in UFOs or hauntings or these other things. And so
Speaker 3: I think it's more common than what we like to
Speaker 3: let on.
Speaker 2: Mine has been flickering of lights or lights coming on
Speaker 2: or going off. Can that be attributed to bad electricity? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I prefer to think that it's I'm being communicated
Speaker 2: with by my grandparents, because that's where it always happens,
Speaker 2: in their bedroom.
Speaker 3: Right. Well, I think as an investigator you have to
Speaker 3: be you have to go into it kind of as
Speaker 3: a blank sheet of paper and collect the evidence and
Speaker 3: let the evidence speak for itself. Really, I mean, you
Speaker 3: don't want to infer, but I'm like you, I mean,
Speaker 3: you can there are certain background information related to those
Speaker 3: experiences that can lend more to what the reality is
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all that said, there were experiences. I gather
Speaker 2: you walked away from damned if I know what that was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, a lot of the paranormal is that very thing.
Speaker 3: You really don't know how to how to quantify the experience.
Speaker 3: Being a law enforcement and criminal investigator, Yeah, you go
Speaker 3: through this process systematically, but a lot of times you're
Speaker 3: left with more questions than you have as far as answers.
Speaker 2: The Paranormal Ranger a Navajo's investigator, Search for the Unexplained.
Speaker 2: It's a book by Stanley Milford, Junior, who served as
Speaker 2: a Chief Navajo Ranger for over two years and twenty
Speaker 2: three years of service. It's a great ghost story book
Speaker 2: for this time of year, and I thank you for
Speaker 2: bringing it to us.
Speaker 3: Sir. Oh, thank you Lee for having me on your show.
Speaker 3: I appreciate all of your audience. Thank you.
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