WEBVTT 1 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.400 Welcome back to the Game Informer Show, a weekly podcast 2 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:14.640 covering the video game industry. Join us every Friday for 3 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:18.640 a discussion but the latest gaming news, reviews, and exclusive reveals, 4 00:00:18.679 --> 00:00:23.039 alongside Game Informer staff and special guests from around the industry. 5 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:25.679 I'm one of your hosts today, Alex van Aiken, and 6 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:28.120 today I'm joined by Kyle Hilliard. 7 00:00:28.280 --> 00:00:29.079 How you doing, Kyle? 8 00:00:29.640 --> 00:00:32.359 I'm doing okay. Thank you for asking, Alex. 9 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:35.840 Yeah, glad to have you here. We're also joined by 10 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:37.000 Marcus Stewart. 11 00:00:38.200 --> 00:00:40.799 You know what's dangerous the podcast alone? Which one? I'm 12 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:42.240 so grateful that you guys are here. 13 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:44.240 Wow, okay, yeah, I like that. 14 00:00:45.039 --> 00:00:48.520 And lastly rounding out the show today, Charles Hart. 15 00:00:48.640 --> 00:00:49.600 How you doing, Charles? 16 00:00:50.359 --> 00:00:55.640 Ah, Hey, that's my regal impression. 17 00:00:56.399 --> 00:01:04.719 Oh oh yeah, you not McCartney. That would be more 18 00:01:04.840 --> 00:01:05.159 like this. 19 00:01:05.719 --> 00:01:05.959 Yeah. 20 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:09.840 I was thinking about bringing some moroccas and and dancing. 21 00:01:11.599 --> 00:01:13.359 To be has to do for this episode. 22 00:01:13.680 --> 00:01:16.640 Hello, listeners, We're gonna be talking about the best Zelda 23 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:19.959 games today or our favorite Zelda games. Uh for the 24 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:26.439 fortieth anniversary. We have a big, big oh. 25 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:28.400 If you're watching the video version. 26 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:32.280 Kyle is also tying it to a rocket shoot. 27 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:35.840 Yeah, weird. Yeah, oh my god, yeah that was. It 28 00:01:35.879 --> 00:01:36.920 was before Eric worked here. 29 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:40.280 But one of my favorite streams actually, no, that was 30 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:41.920 that wasn't a Game of Homer stream was that it 31 00:01:41.959 --> 00:01:45.319 was a charity stream, but Eric hosted a charity stream 32 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:50.000 and we had I think it was called oh God, 33 00:01:50.120 --> 00:01:52.840 climb with the Core Rocks or something like that, and 34 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:58.640 we had to make our way up toward h It 35 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:01.400 was me and him and it was the first person 36 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:04.760 whoever could get the most amount of co rocks into 37 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:08.360 the top of the mountain the volcano in Breath Tears 38 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:11.080 of the Kingdom, and you couldn't attach. 39 00:02:11.319 --> 00:02:15.360 Them to anything, okay, so you had to use the 40 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:16.840 physics pure. It was so fun. 41 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:20.800 Anyways, Welcome to the show, everybody. It's gonna be a 42 00:02:20.840 --> 00:02:22.520 great episode. Like I said, we're gonna be talking about 43 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:26.520 our favorite Slash, the best Zelda games because our opinions 44 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:30.520 are fact. We're gonna be talking about Pokemon Champions and 45 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:35.199 then people of note. Before we get started, I do 46 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:37.639 want to say, please, if you enjoy the show, pick 47 00:02:37.719 --> 00:02:41.240 up a copy of Game Informer magazine. Charles has that 48 00:02:41.360 --> 00:02:45.319 brand new shiny oh in Marcus the sole frame issue. 49 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:49.759 We flew out to Digital Extremes in Canada and myself 50 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:53.319 and Wesley chatted with the team for a day and 51 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:55.800 a half. It was a great trip. And this book, 52 00:02:55.879 --> 00:02:58.680 this magazine, this physical print magazine that you can buy 53 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:02.240 at GameInformer, dot Com slash Subscribe really turned out. 54 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:02.439 Well. 55 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:07.400 I think there's an incredible feature of Zelda's forty years. Kyle, 56 00:03:07.479 --> 00:03:09.599 you put that together, right, I think, well it was 57 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:10.479 staff wide, right. 58 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:13.240 Well, yeah, I kind of let it, but yeah, everyone 59 00:03:13.319 --> 00:03:15.479 sort of We all sort of leaned on our contacts 60 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:17.120 and stuff like that, and shout out to r J 61 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:21.159 Palmer who let us use his amazing Zelda art And 62 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:23.120 here's a feature that Charles wrote about r J. 63 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:29.360 Palmer real quick, fantastic artists, really recommend I followed them 64 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:33.439 for a while and their work is just incredible, So 65 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:38.360 we appreciate them for letting us use that and that 66 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:41.879 that piece it made it so so so special. 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Pokemon Champions is out. 88 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.360 I know from watching Friend of the Show Jesse Vittelli 89 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:02.759 and Kenneth Shepherd for restarting Kotaki, respectively. I was in 90 00:05:02.839 --> 00:05:06.399 discord with them. They were playing this and I know 91 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:09.920 it's like going to be the new home for like 92 00:05:10.240 --> 00:05:14.079 the competitive scene, but that's about all I know. Also, 93 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:17.959 I'm slowly withering away into withers from old. 94 00:05:19.319 --> 00:05:21.759 Yeah. The more I talk, you're absorbing my life force. 95 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.319 You're becoming a withering wasteland. 96 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:27.040 Like ah, yes, that's what's happening with my voice right now, 97 00:05:27.079 --> 00:05:28.319 I'll talking to the people in that game. 98 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:30.199 Boy, I need I need a rainstorm. 99 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:33.480 Huh, get cowboy yogurt in hair? 100 00:05:34.120 --> 00:05:37.319 Yeah, Charles tell us about Pokemon Champions. 101 00:05:38.079 --> 00:05:43.199 Yeah, So Pokemon Champions is a very odd product. The 102 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:44.720 more time I've spent with it and the more I 103 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:47.240 learned about it. So it is a game. It is 104 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:50.639 on switch and it's on mobile, and it is a 105 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:55.879 Pokemon battling game using like the base rules from the 106 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:57.279 turn based Arpeage's So. 107 00:05:57.199 --> 00:05:59.600 You're playing a battle as well, right, it's not it 108 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:01.279 to play, Okay. 109 00:06:01.079 --> 00:06:05.040 Yeah, well we'll get into that for sure. But there's 110 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:07.800 a lot of like spin offs of Pokemon games that 111 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:11.079 have come out where it's like, you know, you're racing 112 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:13.560 Pokemon or you're you know, running a cafe, or you 113 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:15.319 doing this or that. I don't I actually don't know 114 00:06:15.319 --> 00:06:17.600 if there's a Pokemon Racer there probably is. There's a 115 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:21.959 lot of these now, but this is one that is 116 00:06:22.800 --> 00:06:27.079 specifically designed to take the mechanics and like stats and 117 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:29.480 all this stuff from the base game turn it into 118 00:06:29.600 --> 00:06:31.720 a battling app and you can do it on your phone, 119 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:33.639 you can do it on your switch, and it connects 120 00:06:33.680 --> 00:06:37.240 to Pokemon Home, which is Pokemon's like cloud service where 121 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:40.199 you can store your Pokemon that you get from all 122 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:43.519 these different games. So theoretically, if you have like a 123 00:06:43.560 --> 00:06:45.959 team of Pokemon that you loved in a past game, 124 00:06:46.040 --> 00:06:48.399 you can transfer to the cloud and Pokemon Home and 125 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.920 then you can send those over to Pokemon Champions and 126 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:53.759 then use that to battle. And it's also meant to 127 00:06:53.800 --> 00:06:56.040 be sort of like the new platform, like you said 128 00:06:56.079 --> 00:07:00.360 for VGC Video Game Championships, the Pokemon competitive scene. 129 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:02.680 Yeah, and it's. 130 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:06.399 Kind of like a standardized platform, right, So it's not 131 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:10.120 that that's not you don't necessarily have to get every 132 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:11.920 new game as soon as it comes out and then 133 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:14.240 play through the whole story into all the stuff. Theoretically 134 00:07:14.240 --> 00:07:17.120 it'll all be in Pokemon Champions. You can keep transferring 135 00:07:17.120 --> 00:07:20.680 your guys over there. It's a cool, it's a cool concept. 136 00:07:22.160 --> 00:07:24.480 And then also if you don't have Pokemon, for example, 137 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:26.759 that you want to transfer in there, the game has 138 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:30.319 ways for you to like get Pokemon to use in battle. 139 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:34.680 It has codes that you can like recruit teams. Maybe 140 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:37.480 it's called but someone can make a team and then 141 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:40.199 there's like a copy code. I mean, you can download 142 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.480 that and then use their team in battle. So if 143 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:44.639 someone else has like a really cool spread that they 144 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:47.279 have used or Pokemon and items, et cetera, you can 145 00:07:47.360 --> 00:07:50.160 kind of copy that and use their stats. There's similar 146 00:07:50.319 --> 00:07:55.319 like third party apps like Pokemon Showdown is one that's 147 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:57.839 I think still around, but it's like an example of that. 148 00:07:57.839 --> 00:08:00.560 That's like in browser. You just pick all the stats 149 00:08:00.560 --> 00:08:02.959 and all the specifics for your Pokemon, and it kind 150 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:06.360 of simulates competitive Pokemon bows that you haven't actually do 151 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:08.399 the work of, like raising the Pokemon and getting the 152 00:08:08.439 --> 00:08:12.879 perfect diabetes, the perfect EV's whatever. And in the most 153 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:16.040 basic sense, it's fun. It's fun to play Pokemon battles 154 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:20.120 against other people. I like doing that. It has every 155 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:24.680 Pokemon in it, right like incorrect. Okay, Kyle, you're doing 156 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:26.639 a really good job at transitioning for me. 157 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:30.079 Can I can I say a Pokemon. Can I say 158 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:32.440 some of the Pokemon I've learned from Poco Pia and 159 00:08:32.639 --> 00:08:33.559 already in this game. 160 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:37.519 I'm gonna bet zero, but go go ahead tell me. 161 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:40.360 Is Professor Tang Grove in this game? Is there a tank? 162 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:41.759 Doubtful? 163 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:47.440 Clefke is my favorite isle poc I haven't found I 164 00:08:47.440 --> 00:08:53.240 don't know, let's see. 165 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:54.039 Them. 166 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:56.600 Oh sorry, Cleft is in the game? 167 00:08:56.720 --> 00:08:57.039 Mimic? 168 00:08:57.240 --> 00:08:59.039 Yeah, game in the game? 169 00:08:59.480 --> 00:08:59.879 Yeah? 170 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:03.039 Wouldn't most of them be in it? Or no? Not all? 171 00:09:04.039 --> 00:09:06.840 Like I know, Ken was mad because Mega Ryischo's not 172 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:07.200 in it. 173 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.039 So the thing that makes this game so odd is 174 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:13.720 that it is it is. When you're playing it, it 175 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:16.080 becomes clear that it's it's in a weird spot where 176 00:09:16.080 --> 00:09:20.039 it's unclear if it's meant for people new to Pokemon 177 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.200 or maybe new to the competitive scene that want to 178 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:25.679 just get into the battles, or if it's for people 179 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:27.879 that have played a lot and want to use this 180 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:30.279 as a new platform. So one of the main things 181 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:33.279 is that in Pokemon Champions there is something like one 182 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:36.519 hundred and eighty Pokemon that are actually compatible with the game. 183 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.080 This is of the over one thousand Pokemon that exists now. 184 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.879 You can only use about one hundred and eighty Pokemon. 185 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:45.039 It's exclusive for. 186 00:09:45.080 --> 00:09:47.559 The most numbers, a lot smaller than the bigger number. 187 00:09:48.120 --> 00:09:53.600 It really is. It is only fully evolved forms as 188 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:56.320 far as I know, So like, for example, you can 189 00:09:56.320 --> 00:09:58.799 have Venosare, but you can't have Bulbasore or ivy Sore. 190 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:01.480 It kind of makes sense. 191 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.200 That would exclude Pikachu, who's like the mascot. 192 00:10:04.519 --> 00:10:08.320 Pikachu is the one exception to this rule. So you 193 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:10.559 can get Pikachu in this game. And it's funny because 194 00:10:10.559 --> 00:10:14.440 it's like Pikachu is not a good competitive Pokemon. They've 195 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:18.759 they've really given it a lot of like like tools 196 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:21.080 and stuff over the years, but like Pikachu's stats are 197 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:23.399 just not as good as a lot of like really 198 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:27.600 high to your Pokemon. Raichu is like a little better. 199 00:10:27.799 --> 00:10:30.120 But it's it's they're they're just not You don't see 200 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:34.879 them very often in the competitive scene. So it makes 201 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:36.879 an odd thing where it's like, Okay, so not every 202 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:40.679 Pokemon is available here, Uh, what are the pros of that? 203 00:10:40.720 --> 00:10:43.320 The pros or that if you're not into the competitive 204 00:10:43.320 --> 00:10:45.159 scene you have been playing for years and years and years, 205 00:10:45.240 --> 00:10:47.759 it does limit the amount that you have to learn, right, 206 00:10:47.840 --> 00:10:52.279 there's fewer types to learn, there's fewer combinations that exist. 207 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:54.679 It's a little bit more accessible in that sense. 208 00:10:55.639 --> 00:10:58.279 I've heard because of that limited roster. Sorry to interrupt, 209 00:10:58.799 --> 00:11:03.000 I've heard because that limited foster in centerre is very 210 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:07.960 very powerful right now, and maybe like in typical competitive play, 211 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:10.919 there are other counters that are that are present for 212 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:13.440 in Centre that like it's harder to do that right 213 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:16.519 now because the limited roster is that kind of right. 214 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:22.519 Yeah, or I mean just just broadly speaking, Uh, the 215 00:11:22.639 --> 00:11:25.279 meta is is very unique because there's a lot of 216 00:11:25.320 --> 00:11:28.240 Pokemon that are showing up that it's like, oh, this 217 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:31.240 guy hasn't been viable for a few years as the 218 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:33.679 games have come out or as new abilities have happened 219 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:36.600 or whatever. And there's also mega evolutions in this game, 220 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.639 which as far as I know, for a couple of years, 221 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.039 was not a part of the competitive scene because it 222 00:11:42.039 --> 00:11:44.159 wasn't like a main mechanic in the games. So now 223 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:46.559 this is like mega evolutions are something that you're thinking 224 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:52.120 about incorporating into the games a lot more so that 225 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:54.159 that's like a that's like a pro is like Okay, 226 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.120 there's there's fewer Pokemon, but there's fewer to learn. It's 227 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:59.440 kind of more approachable. The con is that, uh, this 228 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:03.279 is the new hub for competitive Pokemon battling, Like next 229 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:06.639 year when there's the big Pokemon World Championships and everyone 230 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:09.960 gathers to do the VGC stuff, it's gonna be in 231 00:12:10.039 --> 00:12:14.120 Pokemon champions and that It just is frustrating because there's 232 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:15.399 a lot of people that are like, I have this 233 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:17.679 Pokemon and this has kind of been a deal for 234 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:19.960 a while now because Pokemons had to limit the amount 235 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:22.039 of Pokemon that are available in each sort of game. 236 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:25.519 But it is kind of frustrating to have it this 237 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:29.159 limited of you can actually only do this, and there's 238 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:31.399 a lot of strategies of Pokemon that aren't fully evolved, right. 239 00:12:31.399 --> 00:12:34.120 There's a there's an item called the Evia Light, which 240 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:38.159 multiplies your defense and special defense by one point five 241 00:12:38.200 --> 00:12:40.720 times if you're not fully evolved. So there's a lot 242 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:43.679 of Pokemon that have like okay stats in their middle form. 243 00:12:44.000 --> 00:12:46.120 You can give an Evia Light that become like really 244 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:50.519 bulky tank type Pokemon that don't take a lot of damage. 245 00:12:50.759 --> 00:12:52.879 There is a I don't know if it's in the game. 246 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:56.759 I guess I'll check. I'm going off of Sarabai dot net, 247 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.879 which is my go to Pokemon resource. Of course, pachi 248 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:02.679 Risu is not in the game. That's like a really 249 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:05.759 good example of a number of years ago. Patrisu not 250 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:10.159 a competitively viable Pokemon at first glance. Is like a 251 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:15.039 squirrel Pikachu introduced in Pokemon Diamond and Pearl was in 252 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:18.399 like a winning team one year because it was such 253 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:20.440 a wild card that it would show up and would 254 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:22.559 just no one would know what to do with this thing, 255 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:24.759 and it would like run circles around everyone, which is 256 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:26.840 so fun. That's so cool, And there's so many Pokemon 257 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:29.440 that that's always like the dream, right is that? Yeah, 258 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:31.919 you get your favorite Pokemon and it's like, oh my gosh, 259 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:35.399 Charles's favorite Pokemon's Fampy. He made this crazy fanpy team 260 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.600 that's stomping everyone who could have seen that coming. 261 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:39.919 Sorry, I'm proud of myself because I was trying to 262 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:42.360 look up Pichu. I've never heard of piechri resouit and 263 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:44.600 I didn't want to ask you how to spell it, 264 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:47.960 so I typed in a really bad version of it, 265 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:49.639 but I still managed to pull it up. And I 266 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:52.639 see a cute little two cute little squirrels. One's blue 267 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:55.440 and one's pink, and they're not probably shiny, and they 268 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:59.559 didn't make the cut. Huh, these adorable little things. It's 269 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:00.000 messed up. 270 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.519 So it's it's yeah, so it's it's an odd it's 271 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:07.159 an odd state where if you are a competitive person. 272 00:14:07.279 --> 00:14:07.360 Oh. 273 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:10.480 Also, not all the items are available in this game, 274 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:14.799 So there's held items like the life orb for example, 275 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:17.679 boosts all your damage and you take a little bit 276 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:20.879 of damage every turn. That's like a competitive stable for 277 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:24.320 years and years and years, it's not around. There's a 278 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:26.360 few stuff like that that have been in all the 279 00:14:26.399 --> 00:14:29.399 games basically that we're just very used to seeing and 280 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:33.639 anticipating that aren't around anymore. So it creates like just 281 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:35.519 an odd kind of thing. If it was just a 282 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:38.879 new kind of mobile or switch game, that would be 283 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:40.759 one thing, but for it to kind of take over 284 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:46.840 the competitive scene is making it rightfully controversial. And then 285 00:14:46.879 --> 00:14:49.559 there's the other aspect Kyle mentioned is it is free 286 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:52.799 to play, which after playing it for a few hours 287 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:56.320 it does feel icky. So I have the starter set, 288 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:58.320 which is like seven bucks. We got a code for 289 00:14:58.399 --> 00:15:02.320 it from Nintendo. But but it's not that expensive. But 290 00:15:02.399 --> 00:15:05.440 it's a thing of like if you want to adjust 291 00:15:05.480 --> 00:15:08.320 your Pokemon's stats or change their moves or change their nature, 292 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:10.120 these are all things you can do in the games 293 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:13.080 with items that you'll get from like playing through an RPG, 294 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:14.559 and this want it costs. 295 00:15:14.279 --> 00:15:16.960 The helmet or the iron band or whatever they are. 296 00:15:17.519 --> 00:15:22.279 Yeah, and this one it costs victory points or like 297 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:25.360 specific tickets for each of these things. So there's an 298 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:27.360 element of in the game you can just be like, oh, 299 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:29.200 this strategy isn't working, I'm gonna try to switch it 300 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:31.639 up and use this or whatever. And this one it's like, well, 301 00:15:31.679 --> 00:15:34.399 if you've won enough games, you can change your strategy, 302 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:37.279 or if you're paying money, then you can maybe change 303 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:41.279 your strategy. But it's it is like a limited amount 304 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:44.679 of wiggle room you have because all this stuff costs currency. 305 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:49.480 And then also to unlock Pokemon is like kind of 306 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:53.200 a weird It's not quite a gotcha system because it's 307 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:55.639 a little more forgiving than that. But it's like, if 308 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:58.200 you want to add a new Pokemon to your team, 309 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:01.759 you can only do it once every twenty four hours, 310 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:04.080 and then when you do it, a bunch of Pokemon 311 00:16:04.159 --> 00:16:06.679 will appear, and then if you have enough victory point, 312 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:09.639 you can either pay to add them to your team permanently, 313 00:16:10.080 --> 00:16:12.080 or you can rent them for a week to use 314 00:16:12.080 --> 00:16:14.279 in battle, but you can't adjust their stats or moves 315 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:18.399 or anything while you're renting them. You can also spend 316 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:22.960 quick tickets maybe they're called to shorten that weight time 317 00:16:23.039 --> 00:16:25.720 so you can just roll over and over again. And 318 00:16:25.759 --> 00:16:28.879 then you can also spend these other like tickets to 319 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:31.799 basically redeem to just gain the pokemon permanently. So as 320 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:34.480 someone who has the starter pack, it's not that hard 321 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:37.120 for me to have spent seven dollars and then build 322 00:16:37.159 --> 00:16:39.840 this team up relatively quickly. It's not all the Pokemon 323 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:41.480 I want, but every time I roll, I get a 324 00:16:41.559 --> 00:16:44.399 choice of like ten to choose from something like that. 325 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:47.519 It's a pretty wide thing, but it is a weird. 326 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:49.679 It's just a weird game that like every time I'm 327 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:51.279 doing a battle, I'm like, this is cool, but I 328 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:53.360 might want to change up my strategy, and just knowing 329 00:16:53.360 --> 00:16:57.600 that that's like using my resources and I'm just draining 330 00:16:57.639 --> 00:17:00.159 my bank over time to just try to get like 331 00:17:00.159 --> 00:17:04.880 a slightly better team is odd and doesn't feel great. 332 00:17:05.359 --> 00:17:06.720 I would use the word bad. 333 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:08.160 I would. 334 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:09.039 I might agree with that. 335 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:11.680 Yeah, yeah, I also I just I have a really distage. 336 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:13.759 Free to play stuff just really rubs me the wrong way, 337 00:17:13.839 --> 00:17:16.240 especially when it's yeah, you know, I mean, we're all 338 00:17:16.279 --> 00:17:20.359 adults here, but a game for children, you know, Yeah, 339 00:17:20.480 --> 00:17:21.319 not to say that way. 340 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:24.960 This game has a it has a battle Pass. The 341 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:27.319 Battle Pass has a paid tier, and it has a 342 00:17:27.359 --> 00:17:31.240 monthly membership subscription. So if you wanted to be playing 343 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:33.400 this game, you could pay five bucks a month for 344 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:35.960 the membership and then also pay ten dollars to unlock 345 00:17:36.240 --> 00:17:38.400 the higher tier of the battle Pass, which comes with 346 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:41.559 mega Evolution stones and more Pokemon you can add to 347 00:17:41.599 --> 00:17:45.920 your team. How much is the paid battle the pay 348 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:50.119 tier the battle passes ten bucks, and then so you 349 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:53.039 pay that and then five bucks on top of that 350 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:55.920 if you want to be a member that gets you 351 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:58.400 extra things, I guess, and then seven bucks if you 352 00:17:58.440 --> 00:18:04.279 want the starter oh Pass, which is like on one hand, 353 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:06.200 I'm like, well, if it's a Switch game, that's what 354 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:09.000 ten plus five plus twelve that's twenty two bucks. It's like, sure, 355 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:11.799 we can pay twenty two bucks to play a Pokemon game. 356 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:13.920 I don't need to necessarily get everything for free. But 357 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:17.119 the way it's all structured is like it's designed to 358 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:19.440 make you feel and even you know, there's some games 359 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:21.759 where you pay the price and then it's like, Okay, 360 00:18:21.799 --> 00:18:24.599 I'm past the paywall. I can kind of like relax 361 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:27.640 a little bit. I feel like I've I've I've gotten 362 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:30.480 past the there's no ads anymore. There's no like I'm 363 00:18:30.480 --> 00:18:32.119 having to stress about this, which is a game is. 364 00:18:32.160 --> 00:18:34.680 Usually pretty good about paying like that. They usually have 365 00:18:34.759 --> 00:18:37.519 a decent system for like their free to start games 366 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:39.400 they like to call them where it's like like like 367 00:18:39.440 --> 00:18:41.079 where you hit a tier where you're like, wow, I've 368 00:18:41.079 --> 00:18:43.240 actually I've bought the game at this point, you know. 369 00:18:43.599 --> 00:18:46.079 Is there a is there like an in game currency 370 00:18:46.079 --> 00:18:48.799 that you can use in place of money that you 371 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.000 can just earn like my only My Only sort of 372 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:53.880 like comparison and I know it's not one to one 373 00:18:53.960 --> 00:18:56.039 is like you gi Oh Master Joel, which is a 374 00:18:56.039 --> 00:18:59.400 free game that you can buy things, but there's an 375 00:18:59.400 --> 00:19:01.400 in game current and see where you can just like 376 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:04.359 just by playing matches you can actually unlock everything just 377 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:06.319 with the in game currency, and you really can. Only 378 00:19:06.599 --> 00:19:08.519 you would really only use money if you just didn't 379 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:11.039 want to like wait right, or you just didn't want 380 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:15.759 to play competitive matches to get things. But like, I've 381 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:17.960 rarely ever put money into that game. Someone that's put 382 00:19:17.960 --> 00:19:20.599 over like six hundred hours into that game. So I 383 00:19:20.640 --> 00:19:23.799 was wondering if, like if if Pokemon had like an 384 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:25.920 alternative to like, oh yeah, you can just if you 385 00:19:26.400 --> 00:19:28.319 just played a bunch, you could just unlock everything. 386 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:32.680 Yeah, So the short answers, Yes, there's victory points, which 387 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:34.960 is kind of that currency that fills that role that 388 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:36.960 you get from winning. You get a little bit when 389 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:38.519 you lose, but you get a lot more. It's like 390 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:40.640 you get three hundred when you win in eighty when 391 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:42.640 you lose, and I think maybe that scales up as 392 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:46.839 you rank up through the ranked matches and stuff. But 393 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:50.240 there's like the Battle Pass, for example, I think has 394 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:54.920 My guess is that as the items are exclusive to 395 00:19:54.960 --> 00:19:58.000 the Battle Pass and the Pokemon Exclusive Battle Pass, assuming 396 00:19:58.039 --> 00:20:00.440 again that you don't have the games and can transfer 397 00:20:00.480 --> 00:20:02.799 them in from Pokemon Home, some of that stuff that 398 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:05.599 is like quote unquote exclusive is just things you could 399 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:09.519 get in like Pokemon Legends Za for example, and transfer 400 00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:09.839 them in. 401 00:20:10.559 --> 00:20:10.880