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<v Speaker 4>Ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 6>So six four six.

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<v Speaker 5>Sixty four six seven one eight two eight, and we're

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<v Speaker 5>looking here. Of course, last night the return of rock

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<v Speaker 5>Lesner again coming into Battleground normally which is normally was

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<v Speaker 5>his rematch, returning to seth Rawlins, who is now taking

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<v Speaker 5>We don't know, but we shall. We shall find out,

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<v Speaker 5>and if that doesn't work, we'll be talking, of course

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<v Speaker 5>also of something of an NXC invasion, even though it

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<v Speaker 5>was more of a step. McMahon is going to stand

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<v Speaker 5>up for women everywhere and join the women's athletic movement.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'd have to say, Serena Williams has kind

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<v Speaker 5>of has crept a little bit ahead of the rappey anyways,

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<v Speaker 5>winning Wilmington and looks to be on you know, and

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<v Speaker 5>to gain another Grand Slam. And the women's soccer team,

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<v Speaker 5>who's the first time it's nineteen ninety nine, won the

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<v Speaker 5>against jet against Japan and got some folks there. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 5>let's see there anyway, all right, if you're up six

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<v Speaker 5>four six h take you any worry for a question

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<v Speaker 5>or comment? Fine Nel Nelson from Bronx, New York. Yes, sir,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, I just I'm sorry that I that.

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<v Speaker 7>Wad's not on the phone, because I would have wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to congratulate and call him miss the Hall of Famer.

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<v Speaker 7>But it's even better speaking to you, Bruce, because every

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<v Speaker 7>time I listen to your show with Wait, Waite always

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<v Speaker 7>picks on you and uh, you know, and always want

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<v Speaker 7>to tell Wait, you know, take it easy on Bruce.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I certainly appreciate that. I'm we're worried. But

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<v Speaker 5>now that now that he's in the National Wrestling Hall

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<v Speaker 5>of Fame with all the restlings, you know, the great

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<v Speaker 5>inductees this year and throughout these classes for about seventeen years,

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<v Speaker 5>that you can be even meanier to me. So I

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<v Speaker 5>appreciate that I should bounce that out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It kind of hard for me to speak up for myself.

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<v Speaker 5>So it's great when Paula's do that. But yeah, well

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<v Speaker 5>you'll be back, no problem, you so follow it. But

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<v Speaker 5>I appreciate that. What So what's your big of her

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<v Speaker 5>all last night? What's your what's your.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I'm I'm, I know, I'm preaching to the choir,

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<v Speaker 7>but that Raw should be two hours show because it's

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<v Speaker 7>I watched it live and it's really hard to watch

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<v Speaker 7>the show for three hours straights. But I have to say,

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<v Speaker 7>over the last two weeks, particularly.

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<v Speaker 5>Last night, Roll was really intriguing.

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<v Speaker 7>I thought it was a great It was a not

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<v Speaker 7>a great show, but it was very good.

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<v Speaker 6>But I have a question about I have two.

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<v Speaker 7>Questions, but I want to give you one questions First

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<v Speaker 7>about Czarrow and I think that he had the two

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<v Speaker 7>back to back matches with John Tina last week and

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<v Speaker 7>the week before, and I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 7>said the first match was better than last week. Do

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<v Speaker 7>you see that that Vince and Triple H watching on

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<v Speaker 7>the monitor together, that Vince McMahon must have been so

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<v Speaker 7>impressed with Cizarrow that maybe Triple H told Vince like

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<v Speaker 7>as a joke for being sarcastic, saying not bad for

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<v Speaker 7>a man who is with.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you what do you think about that? Bruce?

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<v Speaker 7>And I have another question after that.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, you know, I you know I think that I

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<v Speaker 5>don't think the Bizarrow. You know, there were some blown spots,

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<v Speaker 5>there was there were some things in that match last week,

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<v Speaker 5>that thirty minute match that were quite right, but there

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<v Speaker 5>was a real energy to the match and crowd with it.

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<v Speaker 5>To a Bizarrow really commanded the raincow get part up.

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<v Speaker 5>Good part the show that he helps make John Cena

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<v Speaker 5>look strong and he helps himself with and looked strong.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I thought in the hole it was, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>it was another good boot for Czara and they put

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<v Speaker 5>him in a speech of match now this week, but

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<v Speaker 5>they had him lose. So I don't know whether he's

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<v Speaker 5>being elevated or he's being put in that slot which

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<v Speaker 5>would be in elevation from the tagking slot. He's putting

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<v Speaker 5>in that spot that dalfh Zigglers had for several years,

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<v Speaker 5>which is you're out there, and David Bryn had it

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<v Speaker 5>some too, but he, you know, he became a star

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<v Speaker 5>where you're there to provide action. You're there to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>have to have good ringability, but in the end you're

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<v Speaker 5>there to put over more important acts or you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you're a carpenter to build a house for somebody else.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that was that was some of what we

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<v Speaker 5>saw there. So you know, I don't know. As Tom

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<v Speaker 5>moves on, I think we'll have some left. Jason, what

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<v Speaker 5>do you think did you joined the text? Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Give me the question again. I kind of was trying

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<v Speaker 4>to make sure. I guess everything was set up right

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<v Speaker 4>here basically the the Cizarro push, but what was the.

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<v Speaker 5>G just to where does stand after the three right

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<v Speaker 5>match last night?

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's okay, even though he's lost two matches

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<v Speaker 4>in a row. They were both long, competitive matches, and

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<v Speaker 4>I think in times like this you kind of listen

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<v Speaker 4>to the broadcast team to hear what they're saying, and

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<v Speaker 4>they're just raving about the guy. And I do think

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<v Speaker 4>that whatever they're doing with him right now is ultimately

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<v Speaker 4>going to lead to him being in a better place.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I think he already is in a better place,

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<v Speaker 4>but I do think they have plans for him.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it seems like he's progressing. I mean, make it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, there are sounds like I said where I

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<v Speaker 5>mean just being that being the in the single guy

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<v Speaker 5>who's put in the mix and it's there to make

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<v Speaker 5>everybody else look good and then you have you have

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<v Speaker 5>a great effort and then the end you lose. That's

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<v Speaker 5>that's the spot that's better than attacking championship spot and

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<v Speaker 5>it can lead to more. So I don't know whether

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<v Speaker 5>that's where it's because it's just kind of but the

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<v Speaker 5>fact that they put it in a key spot on

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<v Speaker 5>the television show three weeks in a row, I think

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<v Speaker 5>it's pretty important. Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think he's figured in under the entity on Sunday not

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<v Speaker 5>shut so fall he is not.

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<v Speaker 4>No, there's a I don't believe Russe is either. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean maybe they do set something up on SmackDown between

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<v Speaker 4>those two. I'm not sure where that's going.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I sun it, so we'll see. So caller, what

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<v Speaker 5>else do you have for us?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, this is my last, my last question.

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<v Speaker 7>Then I have a comment after that. I listened to

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of the Pro Wrestling, the Pro p W

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<v Speaker 7>Torch Classic audios from the early nineties, and you know,

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<v Speaker 7>you are a lot of females calling in the show

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<v Speaker 7>on like the audio shows, and I was just wondering,

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<v Speaker 7>the pro wrestling got met, especially when you make those

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<v Speaker 7>and uh. And Bruce said. I just want to say, Bruce,

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<v Speaker 7>I love your audio shows with with Wade and all

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<v Speaker 7>But thank you, gentlemen, and I hope you have a

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<v Speaker 7>good evening and a great show to you guys.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I really appreciate this con words. I mean, Jason,

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<v Speaker 5>And it's different when you know, it's different than someone

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<v Speaker 4>So, yeah's women out there. I mean, I know, you

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<v Speaker 4>we've certainly had women call this show before I mean

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that should be the goal. I mean, Ronda Ralsey

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<v Speaker 5>to do. So I'm gonna Jason, we got you. I'm

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<v Speaker 5>want to start with Jason talk about for a Wrestling

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Absolutely, busy day at the Sight today again. All

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<v Speaker 4>the details available on the main page at pro Wrestling

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I mean, I had a great week last

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<v Speaker 5>Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame. As part of that including

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<v Speaker 5>thinking make something familiar about him, and then it hits

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<v Speaker 5>me exactly who it's Dan Gable, the greatest American amateur wrestler,

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<v Speaker 5>as I when I was a teenager, I mean, one

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<v Speaker 5>that was really cool. But my one I had one

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<v Speaker 5>regret last week and you know, instead of being instead

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<v Speaker 5>gonna be Robbie, you that I missed you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>quite the ballpark, the Clinton, the Flints Park. It's really

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<v Speaker 5>cool that one. You know, it would have been nice

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<v Speaker 5>to have a call with you, James.

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<v Speaker 4>It would have been fun maybe. And the Twins are

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<v Speaker 4>playing great baseball right now. I was gonna watch that

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<v Speaker 4>game all I worked, and unfortunately it was blacked out here.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like one of those rare you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like you can see about one hundred and fifty games

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<v Speaker 4>on television, and that just happened to be one I

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean that, you know, it was it was

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<v Speaker 5>really cool. I mean that it was one of those games.

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<v Speaker 5>go ahead, and two home runs later the Clints are

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<v Speaker 5>back in there. But I mean, just beautiful park, right,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, it really reminded me. I go to bore obviously,

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<v Speaker 5>Cimeral scrimmage and and sit there and seek tie my

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<v Speaker 5>the National Championship that was. That was quite the best.

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<v Speaker 4>So the next time you come to town, we'll get

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, that was great. And and also get my

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<v Speaker 5>Mary Tyler Moore statue, because I honestly think that show

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<v Speaker 5>was I don't know, the top two or three best

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<v Speaker 5>television shows. Amazing show that back in it today. All right,

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<v Speaker 5>should congratulate Way for his induction in the pro Rustling

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<v Speaker 5>Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 4>And yes, he talked about you, Jason, all sorts of

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, for the most part, possibly particularly on how you

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<v Speaker 4>despite the fact that I had Jason writing for the

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<v Speaker 7>I mean he was.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you can definitely argue there wouldn't have benefit

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<v Speaker 5>had the pictures and all that. See how you know

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<v Speaker 5>how toush you was there for this hall of fame

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<v Speaker 5>for the people in it, to pay tribute to a father.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just you know, for members.

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<v Speaker 8>In twenty twelve, NXT transitioned into the developmental system and

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<v Speaker 8>ultimately the brand you see today. On the Torch VIP

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<v Speaker 9>Join Kelly Wells and me Tom Stout from p WT

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<v Speaker 4>All right, real quickly, as you're leaving out the best part,

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<v Speaker 4>because I did keep up on the weekend through Wade's

418
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<v Speaker 4>social media pages and then listening to your guys' audio,

419
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<v Speaker 4>and I think my favorite part of all of this

420
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<v Speaker 4>is that you were scolded by Jim Ross.

421
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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, oh god, yeah, that was great. I mean,

422
00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:10.200
<v Speaker 5>like we're sitting there, oh well, there's two one story

423
00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:14.039
<v Speaker 5>we haven't told yet. There's two stories. And you know,

424
00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:18.440
<v Speaker 5>Ross is Ross. I mean, he's I think that the

425
00:23:18.519 --> 00:23:20.839
<v Speaker 5>fact that it may sound awful, but I think the

426
00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:24.640
<v Speaker 5>fact that the faith is parallels really and he's not

427
00:23:24.799 --> 00:23:27.480
<v Speaker 5>smiling when he's joking, really lends and stuff to it

428
00:23:27.559 --> 00:23:30.400
<v Speaker 5>since he because he will just you know, he will

429
00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:33.720
<v Speaker 5>say something and really you know, and really downplay and

430
00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:36.160
<v Speaker 5>really say it in a real straight way, and it's

431
00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:39.160
<v Speaker 5>funny as hell. But he you know, we're sitting there

432
00:23:39.160 --> 00:23:42.319
<v Speaker 5>and he he caught the two of us on our

433
00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:45.920
<v Speaker 5>phones right as the thing was starting, right, you know,

434
00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:48.799
<v Speaker 5>sitting there screwing around on our phones looking at nothing,

435
00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:52.319
<v Speaker 5>and you know, and you know, curse at us and said,

436
00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:55.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, saything. Thank you know, get off your phone,

437
00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:57.279
<v Speaker 5>and the world's going by, you know, what you want

438
00:23:57.279 --> 00:23:58.680
<v Speaker 5>and all that stuff, and we're just like sitting there

439
00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:01.920
<v Speaker 5>laughing and they're going, you know, as Wade said, here's

440
00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:04.920
<v Speaker 5>this guy's on Twitter twenty four hours a day graping

441
00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:09.079
<v Speaker 5>about something, you know, somebody trolling them. I'm not on Twitter.

442
00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:10.880
<v Speaker 5>And one of the reasons I'm not on Twitter, I'm

443
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.880
<v Speaker 5>bad enough on my phone and did so It's like

444
00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:15.799
<v Speaker 5>I have to see myself being that much more addicted.

445
00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:18.519
<v Speaker 5>Then if you saw the picture of Ross and I

446
00:24:18.599 --> 00:24:21.839
<v Speaker 5>together the Wade put off, and I think you can

447
00:24:21.880 --> 00:24:26.880
<v Speaker 5>find it on the Torch vip star too. We're standing

448
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:29.759
<v Speaker 5>in line talking. Way just go Way just runs up

449
00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:32.920
<v Speaker 5>interrupt and rots and are standing line talking and he

450
00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:35.880
<v Speaker 5>goes pose and act like you're talking to each other.

451
00:24:36.720 --> 00:24:38.559
<v Speaker 5>So I looked at Ross and I said, all right,

452
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:41.519
<v Speaker 5>act like you're talking to him. And Ross said something

453
00:24:41.559 --> 00:24:43.559
<v Speaker 5>back to me, and he was talking to me, but

454
00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:46.599
<v Speaker 5>I'm not gonna say what he said because the show.

455
00:24:46.960 --> 00:24:51.720
<v Speaker 5>So that picture is me getting up blooded by Ross.

456
00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:55.200
<v Speaker 5>So that was funny too. Ross was really good.

457
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<v Speaker 4>I mean well and best wishers.

458
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<v Speaker 5>Damn.

459
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<v Speaker 4>He underwent some type of surgery this morning, and you know,

460
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.240
<v Speaker 4>a plan surgery, and he said it would He described

461
00:25:03.279 --> 00:25:05.640
<v Speaker 4>it as minor in his blog. He didn't specify, but

462
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:07.920
<v Speaker 4>I've been keeping an eye on his Twitter page and

463
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:10.079
<v Speaker 4>it looks like he's tweeting again. He didn't acknowledge the

464
00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:13.440
<v Speaker 4>surgery yet, but obviously if he's up and if he's tweeting,

465
00:25:13.480 --> 00:25:16.359
<v Speaker 4>then he's uh, he's feeling better. So best of luck

466
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<v Speaker 4>to him.

467
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<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean, you know, Kurt angle to give you

468
00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:21.920
<v Speaker 5>an idea. I mean, Kurt Angle came two days after

469
00:25:21.960 --> 00:25:24.920
<v Speaker 5>this because I just spat, it's just the Danka and

470
00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:29.680
<v Speaker 5>the speciftect it. But respected that a lot of these

471
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.920
<v Speaker 5>veterans half of this, half of this museum, and it's

472
00:25:34.000 --> 00:25:35.799
<v Speaker 5>it's something, you know, I said this a lot, but

473
00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:38.000
<v Speaker 5>there's something where you're sitting there going, Okay, I've seen

474
00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.079
<v Speaker 5>everything in the museum, and then you look again, and

475
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:42.440
<v Speaker 5>you look again, and you look again, and there's all

476
00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:46.400
<v Speaker 5>these little details, all these things that are there. But Ross,

477
00:25:46.640 --> 00:25:49.079
<v Speaker 5>you know, Ross came on his own dock. You know,

478
00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:52.319
<v Speaker 5>he was for the most part, and you know, and

479
00:25:52.400 --> 00:25:56.720
<v Speaker 5>it's time too, and he was coming into so he's tremendous.

480
00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:00.720
<v Speaker 5>He's funny as hell and attenuated. And really, if you

481
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:02.839
<v Speaker 5>tell the guy really did a great job at the

482
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:05.200
<v Speaker 5>MC of that it was you know, and you know,

483
00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 5>I was just kind of sitting there waiting for him

484
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:11.799
<v Speaker 5>the riftway that he never did a kind of let's move.

485
00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:13.640
<v Speaker 5>Just let's move to some questions if you want to

486
00:26:13.640 --> 00:26:14.960
<v Speaker 5>ask you and then they'll get it. We'll get to

487
00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:17.839
<v Speaker 5>the college. Because a bunch of them sities. So what

488
00:26:18.000 --> 00:26:21.359
<v Speaker 5>happens Sunday between seth Rollins and Brock lost. Was rock

489
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.559
<v Speaker 5>Lester just flat out kickers ask and win the final

490
00:26:23.640 --> 00:26:26.960
<v Speaker 5>and then he's w championed again, which is what I

491
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:29.559
<v Speaker 5>think what they want. They wanted you to think. They

492
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:32.039
<v Speaker 5>kept going back and forth like they couldn't but they

493
00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:35.119
<v Speaker 5>couldn't put one or the other really in that position.

494
00:26:35.480 --> 00:26:38.799
<v Speaker 5>Does Seth Rollins somehow come out of this with a

495
00:26:38.880 --> 00:26:42.279
<v Speaker 5>win over Brock Lesner? Is it a disputed finished where

496
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:45.440
<v Speaker 5>they have to come back to a rematch as SummerSlam?

497
00:26:46.160 --> 00:26:49.200
<v Speaker 5>Or is there somebody else that gets into the picture

498
00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:53.359
<v Speaker 5>and rock Lester goes off against them and Seth Rollins

499
00:26:53.839 --> 00:26:58.039
<v Speaker 5>Lessel somebody else SummerSlam? Or do we have disputed finish

500
00:26:58.079 --> 00:26:59.160
<v Speaker 5>and there's a rematch of this.

501
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.240
<v Speaker 4>I don't feel confident at all in this, and I

502
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:05.480
<v Speaker 4>like that. I like going into the show as blunt

503
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:07.519
<v Speaker 4>as they were being last night, with Paul Hayman just

504
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.680
<v Speaker 4>telling you basically, you know, pay money to watch him

505
00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:13.200
<v Speaker 4>get his ass handed to him and see a title change.

506
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:14.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's how they were positioning it. And I

507
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:16.519
<v Speaker 4>thought that was the best thing they could have done

508
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:19.200
<v Speaker 4>on the go home show because it'd kind of gone

509
00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.319
<v Speaker 4>back and forth. Is Seth legit is he intimidated by Brock,

510
00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:24.519
<v Speaker 4>Which is it? And so they did a really good

511
00:27:24.599 --> 00:27:27.759
<v Speaker 4>job with that, and I just think it's too simple.

512
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:30.319
<v Speaker 4>You know, maybe Sunday night, I'm just going, well, they

513
00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:33.519
<v Speaker 4>told us. But I still think usually when they go

514
00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:36.519
<v Speaker 4>to these lengths to stat the deck again or to

515
00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:38.160
<v Speaker 4>kind of clear the deck, I should say, to make

516
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.359
<v Speaker 4>it seem like the weasel Champion has no way out

517
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:44.960
<v Speaker 4>of this. Yeah, a lot of times they find something else.

518
00:27:45.039 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 4>It could be Triple H. I know there's a lot

519
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:50.319
<v Speaker 4>of undertaker speculation, even just because there's like footage of

520
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:53.559
<v Speaker 4>him working out or a photo with or something. I

521
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:56.319
<v Speaker 4>don't even sure where that's coming from. But Triple H

522
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.079
<v Speaker 4>has been rumored for rollins for SummerSlam. I know that's

523
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:01.519
<v Speaker 4>just something Dave Meltzer talked about a lot. And so

524
00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:05.799
<v Speaker 4>I don't know where they go on Sunday, but I'm

525
00:28:05.920 --> 00:28:07.519
<v Speaker 4>very intrigued by what do you think they do?

526
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:11.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean, my my if I had to bet,

527
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:14.319
<v Speaker 5>and I don't have to, and I won't, and I'm

528
00:28:14.359 --> 00:28:16.960
<v Speaker 5>not that confident in this, but my guess is we

529
00:28:17.119 --> 00:28:20.960
<v Speaker 5>get a disputed finished and they rematch it, they rematch

530
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:24.759
<v Speaker 5>it SummerSlam now if Undertakers in the picture for Summer Slam,

531
00:28:24.799 --> 00:28:27.680
<v Speaker 5>which would surprise me. He's not been in the Fisture

532
00:28:27.720 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 5>or anything WrestleMania and in years, So if he's in

533
00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:36.400
<v Speaker 5>the picture of that, and then I don't know, rematch

534
00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:40.960
<v Speaker 5>to me, rematching Undertaker block Rust is you know, it

535
00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:44.160
<v Speaker 5>is really problematic. I mean that was not a good match,

536
00:28:44.920 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 5>and I think people would have that expectation of Undertaker

537
00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:51.880
<v Speaker 5>beating Rock Left and he would have to be you know,

538
00:28:52.240 --> 00:28:53.839
<v Speaker 5>I think he did not only have to be better

539
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 5>than he was at the Brock Left match with WrestleMania,

540
00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:00.319
<v Speaker 5>but better than he was last year. And he was better,

541
00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, he improved over last year's WrestleMania to this

542
00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.559
<v Speaker 5>year's Wrestleman. But I don't know that he looks credible

543
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:09.759
<v Speaker 5>beating brock Ls And what's the point of brug Wisser

544
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 5>beating him again so well?

545
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:14.880
<v Speaker 4>And they're both babyfaces, you know, I mean, I can't

546
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:16.680
<v Speaker 4>see them trying Undertaker heel, can you?

547
00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:20.240
<v Speaker 5>Not at all? Not at all? I mean, there's no way,

548
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:23.319
<v Speaker 5>you know, I think that. I thought, even though they

549
00:29:23.359 --> 00:29:25.599
<v Speaker 5>did it on television, I wonder whether they're just doing

550
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:28.839
<v Speaker 5>it do it? But I thought that there's a a

551
00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:33.599
<v Speaker 5>Caine Undertaker tag team with Caine turning back good and

552
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.599
<v Speaker 5>joining his brother, that that was something they could that

553
00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:39.039
<v Speaker 5>was a card that they could play at some point.

554
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:41.799
<v Speaker 5>Although Caine has kind of worn out and not exposed.

555
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:44.000
<v Speaker 5>But maybe that's the card that they were trying to

556
00:29:44.039 --> 00:29:46.920
<v Speaker 5>do because they would bring Undertaker story back it with

557
00:29:47.079 --> 00:29:49.359
<v Speaker 5>your cane, you know, a place to get off the

558
00:29:49.400 --> 00:29:52.759
<v Speaker 5>train if he's ready to do that, and you know,

559
00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:55.440
<v Speaker 5>and they could either go out together or you know,

560
00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:58.119
<v Speaker 5>Undertakers could still do his you know, once the year

561
00:29:58.119 --> 00:30:00.160
<v Speaker 5>again because you know it's on to keep him. He

562
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.599
<v Speaker 5>can hold them back. You know, I'm always I don't know.

563
00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 5>I think it's up for grabs every year. I mean,

564
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 5>and I'm kind of surpassed. And if both Tinker comes

565
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:13.559
<v Speaker 5>to SummerSlam, then maybe he does something different than than

566
00:30:13.599 --> 00:30:14.119
<v Speaker 5>Brock Well.

567
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:15.599
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know.

568
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:17.640
<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know, I've heard, you know, I've heard

569
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 5>theories of Kevin Owen's getting in with Brock West, you know,

570
00:30:22.079 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 5>of all kinds of stuff, but there's nobody. I mean,

571
00:30:25.759 --> 00:30:27.480
<v Speaker 5>the one thing Brock up is a baby face that

572
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 5>there's nobody built up on the Hels side. That's a

573
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 5>badass that she wants to see brock Leves taken down

574
00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:36.359
<v Speaker 5>the Huels right now, even is not always is a

575
00:30:36.400 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 5>good badass. I mean, you know with it with that

576
00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 5>cowardly thing to him, But he hasn't been He's not

577
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:44.359
<v Speaker 5>built to that level yet. It would be too to me,

578
00:30:44.400 --> 00:30:47.440
<v Speaker 5>that would be too soon. Maybe he could be later on,

579
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:50.440
<v Speaker 5>but there's no there's no you know, there's there's no

580
00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:52.599
<v Speaker 5>bully who needs to be taken down by the bully

581
00:30:52.640 --> 00:30:55.240
<v Speaker 5>on our side. You know, brock Wells is the baby.

582
00:30:55.599 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

583
00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm intrigued by it. I wonder if they

584
00:30:58.839 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 5>don't know this is you know, we added brock wealth

585
00:31:01.079 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 5>there to Battleground. We're going to bring it back at

586
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:07.279
<v Speaker 5>Summer Slam. So the people fans who are getting WWE Network,

587
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.160
<v Speaker 5>you know, we're adding it to them, or the folks

588
00:31:10.160 --> 00:31:13.039
<v Speaker 5>who have the free mark, they should be satisfied with

589
00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:15.599
<v Speaker 5>getting a rock Wealthy match, even if it doesn't have

590
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.920
<v Speaker 5>a perfect finis even the finish is design to rematch

591
00:31:18.920 --> 00:31:22.160
<v Speaker 5>it summerslams So, but I don't know, I think I

592
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:24.200
<v Speaker 5>think there's a lot of there's a lot of things

593
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:25.920
<v Speaker 5>at play that doesn't make it very interesting.

594
00:31:27.960 --> 00:31:29.799
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<v Speaker 5>So what did you think? I mean, the other big

606
00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.079
<v Speaker 5>story I thought last I mean clearly last night was

607
00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 5>the Diva's division and Busha Banks and Charlotte and everybody

608
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.759
<v Speaker 5>else and Becky Lynn and all that. I mean, I

609
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:17.039
<v Speaker 5>think that was What did you think of that? I

610
00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 5>think that there's a lot of people saying that off

611
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:23.319
<v Speaker 5>the Great Star, and I think they're not looking close enough.

612
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:25.480
<v Speaker 5>I can go intothing. What did you think of that?

613
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:29.119
<v Speaker 4>Well? To me, it was way too much about Stephanie

614
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 4>McMahon being the face of this change. It doesn't make

615
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 4>any sense because she's a villain and you know, but

616
00:32:34.640 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 4>I guess in the Diva's Division they're all kind of

617
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 4>heels anyway, they still have some major issues here. I

618
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:44.920
<v Speaker 4>didn't like that Stephanie. It was like Stephanie knew that

619
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 4>Charlotte and I think it was Becky Lynch would be

620
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 4>a good fit with Page, and then somehow she also

621
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.960
<v Speaker 4>knew that Sasha would be more likely to go with Naomi,

622
00:32:54.319 --> 00:32:56.319
<v Speaker 4>and so she's just kind of setting up this weird

623
00:32:56.480 --> 00:33:00.359
<v Speaker 4>faction war. All of a sudden, you have three three womens,

624
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:04.720
<v Speaker 4>and that seems really screw to me. In a perfect world,

625
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.200
<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, get get to the rebrand. If

626
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.400
<v Speaker 4>you want to go corporate and have Stephanie rebranded, whatever, fine,

627
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:13.880
<v Speaker 4>call it the women's division number one and number two.

628
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.160
<v Speaker 4>I don't think I would have introduced them this way.

629
00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm happy they're there. It feels overdue in some cases,

630
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.279
<v Speaker 4>but I just feel like you would have been they

631
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.319
<v Speaker 4>would have been better off being brought in as individuals,

632
00:33:25.559 --> 00:33:27.160
<v Speaker 4>and I kind of fear that they're just going to

633
00:33:27.200 --> 00:33:30.599
<v Speaker 4>get caught up in this goofy faction thing and kind

634
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 4>of struggle to get three women over at once and

635
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.039
<v Speaker 4>their unique personalities. And I don't know about you, Bruce,

636
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.240
<v Speaker 4>but I set the over under it five weeks on

637
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:42.759
<v Speaker 4>how long it takes Stephanie McMahon to put Sasha Banks

638
00:33:42.759 --> 00:33:46.039
<v Speaker 4>in her place for daring to call herself the boss.

639
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I think you're right about that. I think

640
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:54.079
<v Speaker 5>that it was more about, you know, it's more about

641
00:33:54.359 --> 00:33:58.799
<v Speaker 5>document man trying to attach herself to what's seeing as

642
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:02.240
<v Speaker 5>a woman at that but than really thinking through and

643
00:34:02.359 --> 00:34:04.960
<v Speaker 5>getting over the stars. She's not going to be in

644
00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.119
<v Speaker 5>the room. No one's gonna knock her down going and

645
00:34:07.319 --> 00:34:09.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, there's nothing that you can do with that.

646
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:12.760
<v Speaker 5>But then it really reminded me of when I'm in

647
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'm an elementary school teacher, so there are

648
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:18.280
<v Speaker 5>times when I go this kid, this kid, this kid,

649
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.679
<v Speaker 5>you go work on this this kid, this kid, this kid,

650
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:23.119
<v Speaker 5>you go work on this kid, this kid, this kid.

651
00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:25.400
<v Speaker 5>And that doesn't make for stars. That doesn't make for

652
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 5>stars on a pro wrestling show. Got you know, you've

653
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:33.239
<v Speaker 5>got three distinct, strong personalities. They're just in there doing moves.

654
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:36.119
<v Speaker 5>But the other thing, there's two parts of this that

655
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:39.599
<v Speaker 5>I really wonder if they thought through it. They introduced

656
00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:45.920
<v Speaker 5>three facts, they introduced three new personalities. Are they going

657
00:34:45.960 --> 00:34:49.559
<v Speaker 5>to give more time to the divas? Now, you know,

658
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:51.400
<v Speaker 5>taking the side they should they should just call the

659
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.760
<v Speaker 5>women's get this and very much so, or that the

660
00:34:53.960 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 5>ones that come from an exta should be want you know,

661
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:59.320
<v Speaker 5>women versus divas? Are they going to give them more time?

662
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:00.920
<v Speaker 5>And we're just going to see a bunch of mix

663
00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:06.239
<v Speaker 5>and match, you know, multi person tag matches where you know,

664
00:35:06.280 --> 00:35:08.960
<v Speaker 5>the action is good, but nobody quite breaks through and

665
00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.639
<v Speaker 5>nobody you know, they does that. But the other one

666
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:14.239
<v Speaker 5>that just and I think this is really important and

667
00:35:14.360 --> 00:35:17.519
<v Speaker 5>I had I said this to a friend of mine.

668
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:19.639
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to say his name, Mark Madden, but

669
00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:23.079
<v Speaker 5>he just goes, well, you know, that's how they dress

670
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.280
<v Speaker 5>in NXT, so it's okay, And I'm like, no, no,

671
00:35:25.360 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 5>it's not. Serena Williams is great looking and and you

672
00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 5>know it has a real so it's the fashion. Roger

673
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:37.760
<v Speaker 5>Rowsey is great looking and and the women on the

674
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:41.360
<v Speaker 5>US soccer team are you know, are just vibrant and

675
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:43.639
<v Speaker 5>all that kind of you know, really look good, but

676
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:47.639
<v Speaker 5>they don't dress like strips. They don't dress in booty

677
00:35:47.679 --> 00:35:51.760
<v Speaker 5>shorts that are as tight and as you know, and

678
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.320
<v Speaker 5>as revealing and as small as they can possibly be

679
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:57.039
<v Speaker 5>to show more than bobs. They're not, you know, the

680
00:35:57.079 --> 00:36:00.000
<v Speaker 5>demons are set up to be to be. I can't

681
00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:03.239
<v Speaker 5>for then, and I'm not even talking about the morality

682
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:07.280
<v Speaker 5>of this. I'm just saying that that that's the way

683
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 5>to market them, to make funey. And they've made the

684
00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.440
<v Speaker 5>devas money that way, they say, And then they have

685
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 5>the you know reality show, you know, bickering back and forth.

686
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:18.360
<v Speaker 5>You know, women don't trust each other and all that

687
00:36:18.400 --> 00:36:20.599
<v Speaker 5>kind of stuff. That's so probably make some money off

688
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 5>of them. But why the rousing makes you know, is

689
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:29.119
<v Speaker 5>so much bigger. Serena Williams is so much bigger than

690
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:32.639
<v Speaker 5>eye candy. The women, you know, you know, the the

691
00:36:32.719 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 5>US women got such big ratings because women can identify

692
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:40.679
<v Speaker 5>with them. Even though they all look great, women can

693
00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:43.400
<v Speaker 5>identify them and they can look at them and go, damn,

694
00:36:43.440 --> 00:36:46.119
<v Speaker 5>they kick ass and there you know, in their athletic

695
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:51.000
<v Speaker 5>field and they look good too. But it's not, you know,

696
00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:53.159
<v Speaker 5>it's not you know what you know, what do they

697
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 5>ask look like?

698
00:36:53.800 --> 00:36:53.880
<v Speaker 10>What?

699
00:36:54.000 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 5>You know? While you can you know, what does their

700
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:57.639
<v Speaker 5>butler like, Oh they look good, you know, man, they're

701
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:00.239
<v Speaker 5>just about they're just about naked and their wrestling. And

702
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:05.039
<v Speaker 5>so that has to change if they're going to if

703
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.440
<v Speaker 5>they're going to tap into a bigger market than the

704
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.000
<v Speaker 5>Devas tap into. And I don't think they say, you know,

705
00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:13.079
<v Speaker 5>I don't think they see that at all. And to me,

706
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 5>if you don't see that for all the steps of

707
00:37:15.400 --> 00:37:18.719
<v Speaker 5>that man's lip service to a new type of woman athlete,

708
00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:21.280
<v Speaker 5>you know, and it's not you know, three women's there

709
00:37:21.320 --> 00:37:24.440
<v Speaker 5>take an asshole in tennis. For years and years we

710
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.559
<v Speaker 5>was you know, the women's soccer team won the gold,

711
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:29.880
<v Speaker 5>won the gold in nineteen ninety nine, won the World

712
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:32.840
<v Speaker 5>Cup in nineteen ninety nine. They get tender ever since,

713
00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:36.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, roder rows in two years. But you know,

714
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.840
<v Speaker 5>I understand trying to trying to attach yourself to that

715
00:37:38.920 --> 00:37:42.320
<v Speaker 5>you ride that bandwiding, but you've got to know what

716
00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:45.239
<v Speaker 5>what makes you know, in particular rober rowse such a star,

717
00:37:45.880 --> 00:37:48.840
<v Speaker 5>and it's because she doesn't compromise on her body, she

718
00:37:48.880 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 5>doesn't starve herself to death, will look sexy, and they

719
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.920
<v Speaker 5>get her as kis. She she's about being a great

720
00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:58.000
<v Speaker 5>athlete first and then looking good, you know, as a

721
00:37:58.039 --> 00:37:59.360
<v Speaker 5>compliment to it, not the other way.

722
00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 4>An I'd like to see that, you know, I think

723
00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:05.840
<v Speaker 4>where what what the NXT women are wearing to the

724
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:08.360
<v Speaker 4>ring is acceptable. I can't think of anything that jumps

725
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 4>out in me is like, Okay, that's just gaudy and tacky.

726
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:13.079
<v Speaker 4>I think an easy way to do that.

727
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:18.280
<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, Well, okay, I appreciate that. But if you

728
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:21.119
<v Speaker 5>know it's not gaud you're attacking. If you compare it

729
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:24.960
<v Speaker 5>to w W how w W dresses and how vas truss,

730
00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:29.199
<v Speaker 5>it's gaudian tacky. If you compare it to Block, if

731
00:38:29.199 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 5>you compare it to Serene, that's what. Sure, that's that's

732
00:38:32.639 --> 00:38:35.639
<v Speaker 5>who you're trying to connect to. You know, we're used

733
00:38:35.639 --> 00:38:38.199
<v Speaker 5>to it, we're used to seeing that. But you know,

734
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:40.360
<v Speaker 5>I look at Charlotte, you know, the only one to

735
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:43.559
<v Speaker 5>me to look at. She's not she's not athletic enough

736
00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:45.960
<v Speaker 5>to be part of what I'm talking about. But the

737
00:38:46.000 --> 00:38:49.320
<v Speaker 5>rest of them, you know, really tight clothes really, So

738
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:53.119
<v Speaker 5>that's what you know, it's it's not you know, it's

739
00:38:53.119 --> 00:38:57.559
<v Speaker 5>not gaudy attacks say the sun, but it's you know,

740
00:38:58.000 --> 00:39:00.639
<v Speaker 5>in the days where they were where they or you know,

741
00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:04.960
<v Speaker 5>setting that playboard cover bents but gaundy and tacky compared

742
00:39:05.000 --> 00:39:08.719
<v Speaker 5>to the west of the rest of the winning apts.

743
00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:12.079
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think one way to counter that, if if

744
00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:14.159
<v Speaker 4>they just won't budge on what they were in the ring,

745
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:18.280
<v Speaker 4>is to show them wearing normal clothing outside the ring more.

746
00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:20.039
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not talking like get all dulled up for

747
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:24.079
<v Speaker 4>Total Divas, but dress in a classy manner and and

748
00:39:24.079 --> 00:39:26.079
<v Speaker 4>and show that in a backstage interview now and again,

749
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:28.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's w W E. For whatever reason, we

750
00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 4>just don't see much of the outside of Total Divas.

751
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's that's a good point. And have them not acting,

752
00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:40.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, not not having the same caddy arguments and

753
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:42.280
<v Speaker 5>and all that, like you know that they're they're going

754
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.280
<v Speaker 5>after you know, while one of the things that makes

755
00:39:45.320 --> 00:39:48.239
<v Speaker 5>rod Ralfie over them with everybody is she's about with

756
00:39:49.239 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 5>She's not winning her championship. She's about beating everybody as

757
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:55.440
<v Speaker 5>quickly and excise as she can. That's another thing. And

758
00:39:55.639 --> 00:39:58.599
<v Speaker 5>this is what you know when you when you feature

759
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:03.039
<v Speaker 5>nine before who stood out? You know who who's the.

760
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:09.920
<v Speaker 4>Saw Charlotte's failed uhh Charlotte's failed drop kicks is the

761
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:10.840
<v Speaker 4>thing I remember most.

762
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it's the figure out or whatever. It's like,

763
00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:18.639
<v Speaker 5>that's not that's not you know, you're making a snig comment.

764
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:20.960
<v Speaker 5>I understand it, but it's like, you know, and they've

765
00:40:20.960 --> 00:40:24.239
<v Speaker 5>got weeks to come with this, but someone needs to

766
00:40:24.320 --> 00:40:27.199
<v Speaker 5>stand out. Someone needs to be picked. I mean the Clear,

767
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 5>you know, and the Clear Canada and Sasha Banks. But

768
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:33.599
<v Speaker 5>still someone needs to stand out out of that. And

769
00:40:33.639 --> 00:40:37.039
<v Speaker 5>then they've got it, you know that. You know, there's

770
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.760
<v Speaker 5>a reason why Brion Della are featured, but they need

771
00:40:41.039 --> 00:40:43.440
<v Speaker 5>and it's because they're successful in Ton of Devils and

772
00:40:43.559 --> 00:40:46.719
<v Speaker 5>you know, the Merchant byself. But I think but I

773
00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:49.679
<v Speaker 5>think they understand that the tons Ego audience is different

774
00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:52.400
<v Speaker 5>from the Law audience because they thought it was the same.

775
00:40:53.159 --> 00:40:55.880
<v Speaker 5>Then Nikki and John Cena would be featured on Raw

776
00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.480
<v Speaker 5>again and they're you know, that's not even acknowledged something,

777
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.679
<v Speaker 5>nor should it. It's like there's there's a difference between

778
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:05.440
<v Speaker 5>the two audience obviously, So I think develops can be featured,

779
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.400
<v Speaker 5>but they can go down the car it's significantly and

780
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:11.360
<v Speaker 5>you know, and be used and you know it because

781
00:41:11.679 --> 00:41:14.840
<v Speaker 5>on Raw they're tiresome. I don't know. Total genis is

782
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.920
<v Speaker 5>another thing, but it's you know, they've they've got that

783
00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:20.159
<v Speaker 5>to deal with too. They've got some they've got some

784
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:23.599
<v Speaker 5>other factors. You can't just beat them and send them on.

785
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:26.599
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I thought that, and and you know, there's

786
00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:29.679
<v Speaker 5>just it was. It reminded me of E c W.

787
00:41:29.679 --> 00:41:32.480
<v Speaker 5>When when when Stephane Man came out in that belrang

788
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.480
<v Speaker 5>and took over E c W and Paul Hayman and

789
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:37.119
<v Speaker 5>it didn't work out. You know, it was a genius

790
00:41:37.159 --> 00:41:39.760
<v Speaker 5>move and it didn't work out. Which was Paul Hayman

791
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.159
<v Speaker 5>taking e c W and giving the stuff and telling

792
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.800
<v Speaker 5>her you're you know you're extreme, You're in the most

793
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:48.800
<v Speaker 5>extreme you can do that, and and and thinking that

794
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:50.960
<v Speaker 5>if I can marry you, if I can marry e

795
00:41:51.039 --> 00:41:54.079
<v Speaker 5>c W to Stephan mcmon, it'll last forever. And it

796
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:56.320
<v Speaker 5>didn't work out that way, you know, and he'll be

797
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.719
<v Speaker 5>good too, and she I'm sure she thought through some

798
00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.679
<v Speaker 5>of that and all that. It's like, you know, you know,

799
00:42:01.760 --> 00:42:04.800
<v Speaker 5>this was the great if. If if these performers have

800
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:06.719
<v Speaker 5>to have someone else come out and cut their promos,

801
00:42:06.760 --> 00:42:11.079
<v Speaker 5>fork that just doesn't work. I mean it's just that

802
00:42:11.280 --> 00:42:13.239
<v Speaker 5>just doesn't work. It was more to me, a lot

803
00:42:13.280 --> 00:42:15.800
<v Speaker 5>of this is more about the greater glory and the

804
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:21.039
<v Speaker 5>greater role modelness of the brand of Stephanie Man and us.

805
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:26.079
<v Speaker 5>You know, that isn't gonna work. I mean, it ain't

806
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:28.239
<v Speaker 5>gonna work for Stephanie Mann either. She would do better

807
00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:31.360
<v Speaker 5>to stand a five and then, you know, then talk

808
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:34.119
<v Speaker 5>about it corporately and talk about it and other another

809
00:42:34.239 --> 00:42:37.280
<v Speaker 5>heres and and really get this thing out instead of

810
00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:38.559
<v Speaker 5>trying to big there.

811
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<v Speaker 11>I'm Kelly Wells, host of the seven Star podcast, the

812
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813
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814
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815
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816
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817
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<v Speaker 4>Do you think we see some of those women at Battleground.

821
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:26.679
<v Speaker 4>I mean, right now, there's there's only like six matches

822
00:43:26.679 --> 00:43:30.239
<v Speaker 4>that advertise for the main show, so they have room.

823
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they do, and really they should. You know, Sasha

824
00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:35.960
<v Speaker 5>Benk should be you know, they put her in a

825
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:40.000
<v Speaker 5>different fashion. Sasha Bean should be featured. You know, it

826
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 5>gifts her best departments, you know, just put her and

827
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.039
<v Speaker 5>not do a one on one match and see the

828
00:43:45.079 --> 00:43:47.679
<v Speaker 5>house and say this is what this is about, not

829
00:43:47.840 --> 00:43:52.440
<v Speaker 5>a not a not a six six women time. You know,

830
00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 5>I was, you know, and I'm also not an eight

831
00:43:55.440 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 5>minute or twelve minute match either, you know, do the

832
00:43:58.159 --> 00:44:03.599
<v Speaker 5>nx do the NXP deal and tear the house proudably

833
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:04.079
<v Speaker 5>ready for it.

834
00:44:04.119 --> 00:44:04.599
<v Speaker 3>The prown was.

835
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:07.239
<v Speaker 5>Ready for it last night. That really, you know, the

836
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.320
<v Speaker 5>people that watch NXK are live and they're their significant.

837
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Part of the live audience, and that the loudest I

838
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:17.239
<v Speaker 4>don't know about you, Bruce, I thought that was the

839
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:19.800
<v Speaker 4>loudest NXT chant we've heard of a w w E show.

840
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.119
<v Speaker 5>I think you're right. I think you're right. I think

841
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:25.599
<v Speaker 5>that you know, and that's they need to take advantage

842
00:44:25.639 --> 00:44:28.400
<v Speaker 5>of that, like, you know, give them and you know,

843
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:33.039
<v Speaker 5>give the best match box. On the show's Sunday while

844
00:44:33.119 --> 00:44:37.760
<v Speaker 5>and strike while the Iron the Top. Okay, John Cena

845
00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:42.000
<v Speaker 5>is out there citing at ringside, smugly talking about how

846
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 5>the three how russev And and Kevin Owens and Sorrow

847
00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:50.159
<v Speaker 5>are wearing the cells out, making them making them easy pickings,

848
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:53.480
<v Speaker 5>making the one one, the number one contender easy pickings

849
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:56.239
<v Speaker 5>when he when he faces them, and wearing out Owen

850
00:44:56.320 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 5>so he can beat In, which is completely gutless world champion,

851
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:05.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, real champion would want to face his number

852
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.400
<v Speaker 5>one contender fresh to prove that he could beat him

853
00:45:07.559 --> 00:45:08.599
<v Speaker 5>without any excuse.

854
00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:12.639
<v Speaker 6>And then there's you know.

855
00:45:12.599 --> 00:45:18.280
<v Speaker 5>There's Kevin Owens, who is beating up the beating up

856
00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 5>the Communists because he doesn't want the Communists to get

857
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:24.159
<v Speaker 5>the US title. There's America like he did before, Oh

858
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:26.639
<v Speaker 5>no no, because he wants to who up to beat

859
00:45:26.679 --> 00:45:32.639
<v Speaker 5>John cenacor for it. Then there's Cizarro, who I don't

860
00:45:32.679 --> 00:45:34.719
<v Speaker 5>know what to say about. I mean, you know, and

861
00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:38.400
<v Speaker 5>you know who's getting over and really, you know, people

862
00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:41.239
<v Speaker 5>are really into him, except for you know, where does

863
00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:45.840
<v Speaker 5>he stand? I thought that was really a strange kind

864
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 5>of segment. And you know, between that and John scene

865
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:52.679
<v Speaker 5>to complain about refereeing. If I didn't know better, and

866
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:56.000
<v Speaker 5>I think I do know better, it's you know, it

867
00:45:56.000 --> 00:45:58.239
<v Speaker 5>would look like there's a scene of scene a heels

868
00:45:58.239 --> 00:46:01.519
<v Speaker 5>turn comic, but you know, they don't have anybody to

869
00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:03.880
<v Speaker 5>take that guy's plice. And because all the reasons why

870
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:05.559
<v Speaker 5>they haven't up for years and years is still they

871
00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:08.719
<v Speaker 5>I wonder whether they think they're giving in shape and pray,

872
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:11.840
<v Speaker 5>but I think it's just weakned, you know, we can

873
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:14.800
<v Speaker 5>say them this was a I thought this was a

874
00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.400
<v Speaker 5>good match, but I thought it was it was strange

875
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:21.159
<v Speaker 5>how the characters were all, you know, all the way

876
00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:25.440
<v Speaker 5>they were and I don't know what it was weird.

877
00:46:25.480 --> 00:46:26.760
<v Speaker 5>What was your reaction to all that?

878
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:29.559
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think you just summed it up because it

879
00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:31.519
<v Speaker 4>was just bizarre. I mean, I thought it was strange

880
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:34.400
<v Speaker 4>when John Cena worked a thirty minute match with Ciz

881
00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:36.800
<v Speaker 4>Arrow and Owens comes out to attack him, and magically

882
00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:38.920
<v Speaker 4>John Cena has enough strength just to fight him off,

883
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:42.480
<v Speaker 4>and you know, just in seconds, it was like okay.

884
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:44.679
<v Speaker 4>And then you get to this week and now it's

885
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:48.280
<v Speaker 4>John Cene is the one who can't handle Russeph who

886
00:46:48.480 --> 00:46:50.960
<v Speaker 4>just worked a twenty minute match. Johnsen is on the

887
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:53.039
<v Speaker 4>verge of tapping out because they're trying to tell this

888
00:46:53.159 --> 00:46:55.559
<v Speaker 4>story of Kevin Owens is not going to let anyone

889
00:46:55.559 --> 00:46:58.440
<v Speaker 4>else win the title, and it made scene a look weak.

890
00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:02.920
<v Speaker 4>It made Owens. I didn't think Owens walking. I wouldn't

891
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:04.360
<v Speaker 4>have even put him in that match. I'd still have

892
00:47:04.440 --> 00:47:07.760
<v Speaker 4>Kevin Owens destroying people on raw. Not top end guys,

893
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.039
<v Speaker 4>but I mean just winning squash matches and kind of

894
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:14.480
<v Speaker 4>protecting that special quality that he had that he initially.

895
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:17.480
<v Speaker 4>It seems like he's quickly becoming just another raw guy.

896
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.280
<v Speaker 4>I thought, if anyone got over in that scenario last night,

897
00:47:20.719 --> 00:47:23.679
<v Speaker 4>it was Russef, and that clearly wasn't by design. I

898
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:26.280
<v Speaker 4>don't think they want you to start liking Russef, but

899
00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:27.840
<v Speaker 4>I actually felt sympathy for the guy.

900
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:30.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was set up for you too. He was

901
00:47:30.519 --> 00:47:33.679
<v Speaker 5>like he was perseverian kicking ass. I mean, yeah, you

902
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:37.039
<v Speaker 5>know his girlfriend, His girlfriend had abandoned him when he

903
00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:43.079
<v Speaker 5>was hurt. You know they they was now so I

904
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.719
<v Speaker 5>got the impression they wanted to like, there's more isn't

905
00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:49.039
<v Speaker 5>there more heat being from Russia than being from Bulgaria.

906
00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:50.760
<v Speaker 5>Now he's got to be here for Mulgary.

907
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:53.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I know that's strange. I mean, I know, okay,

908
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:56.119
<v Speaker 4>he and Lona aren't together, but the story just as

909
00:47:56.159 --> 00:47:58.960
<v Speaker 4>easily could have been. Well, the Russian Federation doesn't like

910
00:47:59.039 --> 00:48:01.800
<v Speaker 4>Kilana anymore. They still like russ and we're not getting that.

911
00:48:02.559 --> 00:48:04.599
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean you would that would be the logical

912
00:48:04.639 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 5>thing because he he would be you know, he's ready

913
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:10.039
<v Speaker 5>to go back and take the US title and dominate,

914
00:48:10.519 --> 00:48:14.159
<v Speaker 5>dominate w W E on on the Communist behalf and

915
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.360
<v Speaker 5>or whatever they are now on Russian behalf, and so

916
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:23.039
<v Speaker 5>you know that's yeah, it was yeah, he and he

917
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:26.599
<v Speaker 5>came across to me. You know, he's squared off his hair.

918
00:48:26.679 --> 00:48:29.239
<v Speaker 5>I mean, he's got a better haircut. He can't just

919
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:31.320
<v Speaker 5>like a baby facing in a lot of ways. Yeah,

920
00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:33.800
<v Speaker 5>you had sympathy for him, you know, and always got

921
00:48:33.840 --> 00:48:36.599
<v Speaker 5>somebody whoever stuck the summer right. But that's that's that's

922
00:48:36.639 --> 00:48:40.320
<v Speaker 5>cop I don't get that. What does he need a

923
00:48:40.639 --> 00:48:42.559
<v Speaker 5>what does he need a different blonde for? I mean,

924
00:48:42.599 --> 00:48:45.679
<v Speaker 5>I don't I don't know where that goes or what

925
00:48:45.840 --> 00:48:46.320
<v Speaker 5>that's about.

926
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:52.239
<v Speaker 4>So you know, you think that these interferences that they're

927
00:48:52.280 --> 00:48:54.599
<v Speaker 4>doing with you know, with Kevin Owen's constances are a

928
00:48:54.639 --> 00:48:57.400
<v Speaker 4>one match and now he's cost Ruse the title. Are

929
00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.000
<v Speaker 4>they setting up a cop out finished for Sunday where

930
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:03.920
<v Speaker 4>Czarro and or russap and up, you know, interfering in

931
00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:05.480
<v Speaker 4>that match and so that way they don't have to

932
00:49:05.480 --> 00:49:08.199
<v Speaker 4>give you a clean finish to the third match between

933
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:10.360
<v Speaker 4>Gena and Owens.

934
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:13.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I what a lot of people assume, which is,

935
00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:18.679
<v Speaker 5>you know, Kevin Owens. Kevin Owens, you know, loses the

936
00:49:18.840 --> 00:49:21.360
<v Speaker 5>XT title, so he could the fin valas so he

937
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 5>could leave NXT and of course they bring him back

938
00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:27.440
<v Speaker 5>for those big shows that there's a lot of stake

939
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.519
<v Speaker 5>for me, whether they're you know, you know in the

940
00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:33.280
<v Speaker 5>Barkley Center in the Philadelphia that they you know, they

941
00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:37.239
<v Speaker 5>do more business than they've ever done with anty. But still,

942
00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:39.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, if he would get the US title and

943
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:41.719
<v Speaker 5>then John Tena would go and do something else. Although

944
00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:44.000
<v Speaker 5>you know, when I look at I know John Cena

945
00:49:44.039 --> 00:49:47.920
<v Speaker 5>and this US Title Challenge formula has really been, you know,

946
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:50.719
<v Speaker 5>a highlight of a more abound money night raw and

947
00:49:50.760 --> 00:49:54.320
<v Speaker 5>a kind of a sales promotion, and I would like

948
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:56.119
<v Speaker 5>I would like to see them keeping it going. But

949
00:49:56.320 --> 00:49:57.760
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they could do you know, they could do it.

950
00:49:58.280 --> 00:50:01.320
<v Speaker 5>They could do it with Kevin O just having to

951
00:50:01.320 --> 00:50:04.519
<v Speaker 5>do the USO the title challenge and John Cena is

952
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:09.119
<v Speaker 5>chasing him. But I thought that Owens would win, and

953
00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:12.119
<v Speaker 5>then you know, and then you would have Cizarrow and

954
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:15.639
<v Speaker 5>you would have Rusa in the mix. But if Owens wins,

955
00:50:16.199 --> 00:50:20.320
<v Speaker 5>then Rusa Russ gets put to me and the sympathetic Well,

956
00:50:20.400 --> 00:50:23.840
<v Speaker 5>the challenge you're chasing, you know, chasing you know, the bully.

957
00:50:23.840 --> 00:50:26.199
<v Speaker 5>Whether that's got a little bit of power to Kevin Owens?

958
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:29.800
<v Speaker 5>Why do you want that? I don't. I don't know.

959
00:50:29.880 --> 00:50:34.800
<v Speaker 5>It's I thought. I thought the chess pieces here or

960
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:38.599
<v Speaker 5>the follow pieces were fun in very strange ways last night.

961
00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:41.599
<v Speaker 5>I like the action of the match, but I didn't.

962
00:50:42.239 --> 00:50:46.719
<v Speaker 5>I didn't like where the Czarro is. Okay, Cizzarrow, I

963
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:49.199
<v Speaker 5>think the crowds behind Bizarro. He just needs to be

964
00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:51.079
<v Speaker 5>the great wrestling baby.

965
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:51.519
<v Speaker 6>Base right now?

966
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 5>That the other two I didn't, I mean the other

967
00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:58.480
<v Speaker 5>two in the match and John Cena at the third

968
00:50:58.519 --> 00:51:01.239
<v Speaker 5>I didn't get you ready to take some phone calls

969
00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:03.440
<v Speaker 5>always at George Hockey Champion. So we just kind of

970
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:07.679
<v Speaker 5>talk for a while the ship. Yeah, let's dive in,

971
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:10.599
<v Speaker 5>all right, eight one, three, you're up next phone if

972
00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:11.360
<v Speaker 5>every torch.

973
00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:17.639
<v Speaker 10>Lotcast, Hey, Bruce and Jason, this is jacrom Tampa.

974
00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:22.920
<v Speaker 5>Hear me find some gas?

975
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:28.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I can't. Yeah, yeah, can you hear me? Yes?

976
00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:29.039
<v Speaker 5>I can?

977
00:51:31.320 --> 00:51:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah.

978
00:51:31.840 --> 00:51:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about what you just said about if

979
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:42.039
<v Speaker 2>there was I had two questions. One was about uh,

980
00:51:43.239 --> 00:51:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Kevin Owen's if he uh, I know, he's still scheduled

981
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:50.880
<v Speaker 2>for the rematch at the takeover in at in Brooklyn.

982
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:55.639
<v Speaker 2>What does he go in as the US champion and

983
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:58.440
<v Speaker 2>then lose to the n x T champion or is

984
00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:01.239
<v Speaker 2>that a sign that he doesn't at the bell this Sunday?

985
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:07.440
<v Speaker 2>And my second question was about the uh the uh

986
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:11.199
<v Speaker 2>the the women's the new women's division. I think the

987
00:52:11.280 --> 00:52:13.519
<v Speaker 2>way they had them set up is is just an

988
00:52:13.599 --> 00:52:16.119
<v Speaker 2>example of what we had been saying for the longest.

989
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:19.679
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like it's not a really a good guy

990
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:23.360
<v Speaker 2>bad guy. It's almost like, uh, I didn't know where

991
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 2>to put those three rows of of of women because

992
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:32.440
<v Speaker 2>it's like you had, I guess, three baby faces, three heels,

993
00:52:32.559 --> 00:52:33.880
<v Speaker 2>and three loop worms.

994
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:38.559
<v Speaker 6>I mean I didn't, I just give over right, I didn't.

995
00:52:38.360 --> 00:52:39.719
<v Speaker 5>Know where you put those at?

996
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.599
<v Speaker 2>Who Who's Who's? I mean the bells have been that

997
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:45.079
<v Speaker 2>way for months now. They're just kind of loop warm.

998
00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.360
<v Speaker 2>They just play based off of whatever they need them for,

999
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:50.920
<v Speaker 2>almost like they do with Mark Henry. I mean two

1000
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:53.400
<v Speaker 2>weeks ago he was a heel coming out and then

1001
00:52:53.440 --> 00:52:55.760
<v Speaker 2>he team with the Babyface team last night, and we

1002
00:52:55.800 --> 00:53:00.360
<v Speaker 2>were supposed to cheer them, So I was just wondering why.

1003
00:53:00.480 --> 00:53:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering what or her thoughts on. Kind of it's

1004
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:08.320
<v Speaker 2>almost like picking who you picking your friend. Somebody chooses

1005
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 2>who be your friend. I got somebody to be your

1006
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:12.199
<v Speaker 2>friends exactly.

1007
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:14.559
<v Speaker 5>Let's get let's let's get to that.

1008
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:22.440
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1009
00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:24.400
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1010
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1011
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:29.599
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1012
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:33.920
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1013
00:53:33.960 --> 00:53:36.280
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1014
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:39.239
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1015
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:43.199
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1016
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.400
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1017
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1018
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1019
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:55.559
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1020
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:57.920
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1024
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:19.320
<v Speaker 5>What about the match in the Barker Center? What about

1025
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:23.880
<v Speaker 5>the match in New York? Kevin Owens comes in assuming,

1026
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:28.719
<v Speaker 5>let's assume becomes of his US Champion, what happens with

1027
00:54:28.880 --> 00:54:31.559
<v Speaker 5>him and Sendala? Well?

1028
00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:33.880
<v Speaker 4>A couple of ways they can do it. I mean,

1029
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:37.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm guessing he doesn't come in as US Champion. I'm

1030
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.079
<v Speaker 4>just the way he's been pushed lately. It almost feels

1031
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:44.199
<v Speaker 4>like they've They're like again, they're just making him another

1032
00:54:44.280 --> 00:54:46.280
<v Speaker 4>guy on the show. I hope I'm mistaken and he

1033
00:54:46.320 --> 00:54:48.880
<v Speaker 4>comes out of the out of the Sunday with the championship.

1034
00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:51.559
<v Speaker 4>But you can always do what they've done already, which

1035
00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:54.119
<v Speaker 4>is only one titles on the line. That's what was

1036
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:56.719
<v Speaker 4>agreed to. Sorry, and you know, and no one's can

1037
00:54:56.760 --> 00:54:57.719
<v Speaker 4>play that up beautifully.

1038
00:54:57.800 --> 00:54:57.920
<v Speaker 13>You know.

1039
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:01.000
<v Speaker 4>They can try to make it seem like, uh, they

1040
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:05.480
<v Speaker 4>that Vin ballor wants the US Championship, but Owens isn't

1041
00:55:05.559 --> 00:55:07.639
<v Speaker 4>it just being the heel that he has refuses to

1042
00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:09.480
<v Speaker 4>put the title on the line, so they can still

1043
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:11.320
<v Speaker 4>do that. I wouldn't read too much into it, but

1044
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:12.159
<v Speaker 4>do you feel otherwise?

1045
00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:16.239
<v Speaker 5>First, yeah, I think, yeah, I think Finn Baalor is

1046
00:55:17.360 --> 00:55:21.679
<v Speaker 5>NXT champion and he defends the NXT Championship against Kevin

1047
00:55:21.760 --> 00:55:24.119
<v Speaker 5>Owens and he Allwens doesn't put up the f title

1048
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:27.000
<v Speaker 5>if he's if he wins the US tople and he

1049
00:55:27.079 --> 00:55:29.599
<v Speaker 5>doesn't win the US title either way, I think sinn baller.

1050
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:32.920
<v Speaker 5>You know that they give the fans and give an

1051
00:55:33.000 --> 00:55:35.840
<v Speaker 5>n XT fans, and I mean, they need to tear

1052
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:38.360
<v Speaker 5>down the Halse. They need to have a lot, they

1053
00:55:38.440 --> 00:55:40.559
<v Speaker 5>need to have their biggest crowd ever by far, and

1054
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:42.800
<v Speaker 5>they need to tear the house out. And that's that's

1055
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:45.440
<v Speaker 5>at least one of the matches and probably the match

1056
00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:48.679
<v Speaker 5>to do that there and and then you show highlights

1057
00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:51.679
<v Speaker 5>of it on Raw. But whatever. But it doesn't really

1058
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:53.639
<v Speaker 5>count for Kevin Ollen. You know, it doesn't really count

1059
00:55:53.679 --> 00:55:56.360
<v Speaker 5>for Kenis as far as law. The bigger picture of

1060
00:55:56.599 --> 00:56:01.719
<v Speaker 5>the of anyone who wantses wrong smacking, So you know

1061
00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:05.679
<v Speaker 5>that's yeah, that's where I see it. You know, That's

1062
00:56:05.719 --> 00:56:08.039
<v Speaker 5>what I guess was that the one thing to me

1063
00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:12.760
<v Speaker 5>that's what we're saying about the women. You know, and

1064
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.960
<v Speaker 5>I went through my complaining and whining and all that,

1065
00:56:16.159 --> 00:56:19.639
<v Speaker 5>but it is the first week of the Reason and

1066
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:24.239
<v Speaker 5>so while you know, the heel pace and luke warm

1067
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:26.400
<v Speaker 5>is a pretty good way to put how everything was

1068
00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:30.679
<v Speaker 5>set up by stephan the Man last night. They you know,

1069
00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:34.119
<v Speaker 5>they need they're gonna need some more time to establish

1070
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:36.920
<v Speaker 5>these more time on career show, and you think they

1071
00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:39.880
<v Speaker 5>can get it. But if they feature you know, if

1072
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:43.719
<v Speaker 5>they feature Sasha Banks in ways that elevates her, or

1073
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:48.559
<v Speaker 5>they feature uh or if they or they feature Charlotte

1074
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:52.159
<v Speaker 5>in those ways, and then you know, we can see

1075
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:55.239
<v Speaker 5>more than this. It's still it's still in this nazic stage.

1076
00:56:57.079 --> 00:56:59.480
<v Speaker 4>No, you covered it. I think we discussed kind of

1077
00:56:59.480 --> 00:57:02.960
<v Speaker 4>Stephanie picking sides for everybody the earlier, so I think

1078
00:57:03.000 --> 00:57:05.559
<v Speaker 4>he nailed it cool for some.

1079
00:57:05.639 --> 00:57:09.400
<v Speaker 5>Of that Net locast that in their full question tod.

1080
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:15.079
<v Speaker 10>Okay, my name is Drell from Georgia and I have like, uh,

1081
00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:18.599
<v Speaker 10>my first question is a two part question, and I'm

1082
00:57:18.679 --> 00:57:22.559
<v Speaker 10>going back to the John Cena thing with the three guys.

1083
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:25.199
<v Speaker 10>I think they build them up to look kind of

1084
00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:28.360
<v Speaker 10>strong because I feel like they're about to remove the

1085
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:31.599
<v Speaker 10>title from John Cena and move him, I guess, back

1086
00:57:31.639 --> 00:57:34.079
<v Speaker 10>into the main event pictures as it's kind of slow

1087
00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:38.400
<v Speaker 10>after you think after brock me in SummerSlam, do you

1088
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:41.400
<v Speaker 10>think that's a rush if they moved Johnthena back up there,

1089
00:57:41.960 --> 00:57:44.159
<v Speaker 10>since they seem like they don't have another choice to

1090
00:57:44.239 --> 00:57:48.159
<v Speaker 10>put to Few for the title. That's the first.

1091
00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:52.599
<v Speaker 5>Really, I think that's a really interesting question that that's

1092
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:56.440
<v Speaker 5>in play because what that would mean, and maybe it

1093
00:57:56.599 --> 00:58:00.159
<v Speaker 5>is because Rock Wesler goes away after SummerSlam and are

1094
00:58:00.239 --> 00:58:04.000
<v Speaker 5>in some baby face load right now. That means that

1095
00:58:04.199 --> 00:58:07.199
<v Speaker 5>if John Cena goes back to main eventing raws and

1096
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:09.079
<v Speaker 5>he's out of the US title pitcher and he's not

1097
00:58:09.360 --> 00:58:12.559
<v Speaker 5>working with guys too while he's a major star on

1098
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:15.280
<v Speaker 5>the show that the elevant guy, he's back in that

1099
00:58:16.199 --> 00:58:18.920
<v Speaker 5>you know, he's chasing teth Rollins or he's you know,

1100
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:21.440
<v Speaker 5>he's doing something with Shameless. I don't know what, you know,

1101
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:23.239
<v Speaker 5>I'm just trying to top my head think and stuff.

1102
00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:27.440
<v Speaker 5>That's a major capitulation. That's a major defiet for Reference,

1103
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:31.960
<v Speaker 5>who is still slowly being built up to be the

1104
00:58:32.039 --> 00:58:35.199
<v Speaker 5>face of what he Jason, what you were actually the

1105
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:39.360
<v Speaker 5>first Is there a possibility that that John Cena leaves

1106
00:58:39.400 --> 00:58:41.880
<v Speaker 5>this role he's there there, that he's been successful at

1107
00:58:42.360 --> 00:58:46.639
<v Speaker 5>he goes back to you know, the goes back to

1108
00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:49.360
<v Speaker 5>the third hour, main event of money, not Raw every week.

1109
00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:53.400
<v Speaker 4>I think it's possible. I think I wouldn't do it

1110
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:55.960
<v Speaker 4>if I were them. I think Sina. I know people

1111
00:58:56.000 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 4>want to see Owens win the title, but if they

1112
00:58:57.760 --> 00:58:59.639
<v Speaker 4>keep it on Scena, I think the saving grace that

1113
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:03.079
<v Speaker 4>there is that the US Open Challenge has become a

1114
00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.400
<v Speaker 4>big part of Raw. People are into that, the mystery

1115
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:07.559
<v Speaker 4>of who's going to step up this week, and granted

1116
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:09.719
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't always deliver, but it does more often than not.

1117
00:59:10.079 --> 00:59:12.679
<v Speaker 4>And so I don't think he needs to be moved

1118
00:59:12.719 --> 00:59:16.719
<v Speaker 4>out of that scene anytime soon, because the alternative then becomes, okay,

1119
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:18.920
<v Speaker 4>John Cena is going for the US or going for

1120
00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:21.639
<v Speaker 4>the world title and it's held by seth Rawlins. It

1121
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:24.400
<v Speaker 4>brocks out of the picture and he's not the champion.

1122
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:27.199
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to see that match anytime soon. They

1123
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:29.400
<v Speaker 4>ran that into the ground already and it's just too

1124
00:59:29.480 --> 00:59:30.400
<v Speaker 4>soon to go back to it.

1125
00:59:31.360 --> 00:59:33.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't think. I don't think you go back

1126
00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:35.559
<v Speaker 5>to John C. And I think, you know, and I

1127
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:39.880
<v Speaker 5>don't know what's gonna happen. I mean, it's he's not over,

1128
00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:42.760
<v Speaker 5>it's not working to where it should be working. He

1129
00:59:42.960 --> 00:59:47.360
<v Speaker 5>is improving, but it's you know, and you know, we

1130
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:50.039
<v Speaker 5>have a talk about him in Bray Wyatt and but

1131
00:59:50.159 --> 00:59:53.000
<v Speaker 5>it's kind of exactly where everybody is with Ray Watt

1132
00:59:53.119 --> 00:59:57.519
<v Speaker 5>and Ray White. But I have said this, I like

1133
00:59:57.599 --> 01:00:00.679
<v Speaker 5>the Roman ranks as a personal too, keeps them away

1134
01:00:00.760 --> 01:00:04.039
<v Speaker 5>from failing to win the W title until the time

1135
01:00:04.119 --> 01:00:07.039
<v Speaker 5>comes on it's the most opportune time for him to

1136
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:10.079
<v Speaker 5>win it. But I you know, I mean, I guess

1137
01:00:10.119 --> 01:00:12.360
<v Speaker 5>the possibility. I'm with you, I wouldn't do it. And

1138
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:15.000
<v Speaker 5>I think I don't think they're going to go back.

1139
01:00:15.280 --> 01:00:16.760
<v Speaker 5>I mean I think that, you know, I think that

1140
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:19.760
<v Speaker 5>they're going to keep moving forward and hope that run

1141
01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:23.559
<v Speaker 5>the range clips in and games even more traction or

1142
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:26.559
<v Speaker 5>hope that you know, hope the Kevin Owens and some

1143
01:00:26.719 --> 01:00:30.000
<v Speaker 5>of it, some of what's going on in this you know,

1144
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:35.679
<v Speaker 5>in in this US title division, the strengthen strengthens their hands.

1145
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:40.239
<v Speaker 5>So we'll see, you know, seven or eight. Thanks for

1146
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:44.119
<v Speaker 5>waiting that next time the torch out chest he was.

1147
01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:45.039
<v Speaker 6>Going off from US.

1148
01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:49.719
<v Speaker 5>This is Mike from Brooklyn, another New York heard from

1149
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:50.079
<v Speaker 5>What's up?

1150
01:00:50.159 --> 01:00:53.800
<v Speaker 6>Like how you doing? Yeah? Just to also add on,

1151
01:00:54.079 --> 01:00:56.239
<v Speaker 6>you know to that, call me like what if they

1152
01:00:56.400 --> 01:01:00.119
<v Speaker 6>don't move Scena back to the main event picture and

1153
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:03.400
<v Speaker 6>have him take you know, the IC title from right

1154
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:06.000
<v Speaker 6>back and you know, try to elevate that title to

1155
01:01:06.119 --> 01:01:11.519
<v Speaker 6>the level of the US title. That's my first question, and.

1156
01:01:13.039 --> 01:01:14.639
<v Speaker 5>All right, go ahead and second take.

1157
01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:22.559
<v Speaker 6>The second question is, you know, with Rollins and you know,

1158
01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:25.840
<v Speaker 6>aiming and everybody representing the undertaken so much, will you

1159
01:01:26.000 --> 01:01:29.199
<v Speaker 6>posably see maybe like a Robins undertake a match down

1160
01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 6>the line, maybe bad Mania or something.

1161
01:01:33.239 --> 01:01:39.719
<v Speaker 5>Jason, what about elevating the inter Continental title with right back? Like,

1162
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:42.280
<v Speaker 5>you know, how would that worker? Should they do that?

1163
01:01:42.519 --> 01:01:44.719
<v Speaker 5>Or does that take that takes some of the EMUs

1164
01:01:44.800 --> 01:01:47.760
<v Speaker 5>away from the focus away from you know, a U

1165
01:01:47.880 --> 01:01:50.000
<v Speaker 5>S side was just starting to get stronger.

1166
01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:53.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I think the only way if you want to

1167
01:01:53.480 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 4>try to do the open Challenge thing, then I think

1168
01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:58.400
<v Speaker 4>you need to make that exclusive to SmackDown. I wouldn't

1169
01:01:58.400 --> 01:02:00.639
<v Speaker 4>want to see the same gimmick on both shop. I

1170
01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:03.039
<v Speaker 4>think the the IC title is in an okay place.

1171
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:06.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean it it's lower and prestige than the US title,

1172
01:02:06.559 --> 01:02:08.519
<v Speaker 4>But I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. I mean,

1173
01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:10.719
<v Speaker 4>in a perfect world. I'm just you know, because it's

1174
01:02:10.840 --> 01:02:13.880
<v Speaker 4>w WE history, I like, I prefer the Icy title

1175
01:02:13.960 --> 01:02:16.519
<v Speaker 4>mean more. But that's just me. They've established the US

1176
01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Championships is being meaningful right now, and the ICY title

1177
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:22.199
<v Speaker 4>right back. I think is a good title holder. I

1178
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:25.760
<v Speaker 4>think he's a decent guy to hold onto that championship

1179
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:27.840
<v Speaker 4>for a while and work with some of the mid

1180
01:02:27.960 --> 01:02:31.280
<v Speaker 4>card heels and and and people are response are reacting

1181
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:34.719
<v Speaker 4>to him. He's getting a pretty strong reaction almost every

1182
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:35.400
<v Speaker 4>place he goes.

1183
01:02:36.360 --> 01:02:38.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I would like to see them simplify. I'd like

1184
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:40.599
<v Speaker 5>to see him keep it on Live too. I'd like

1185
01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:43.239
<v Speaker 5>to see them simplify the formula and do the Goldberg

1186
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.519
<v Speaker 5>and formal in other words, you know, unless there's a

1187
01:02:46.679 --> 01:02:51.960
<v Speaker 5>reason not to why that walks through everybody on SmackDown.

1188
01:02:52.000 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 5>He's fed mid level heel and he you know, he

1189
01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:58.599
<v Speaker 5>walks to a formula and he marches around and drops

1190
01:02:58.639 --> 01:03:00.920
<v Speaker 5>the down, you know, drop the guy on his back

1191
01:03:01.199 --> 01:03:03.159
<v Speaker 5>at the end of every match. I think that's what

1192
01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:06.199
<v Speaker 5>people respond to. Its him being dominant. I don't want

1193
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:08.679
<v Speaker 5>to see him adding moves. I don't want to. I

1194
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:11.559
<v Speaker 5>want him to see be a bad ass. And you know,

1195
01:03:11.880 --> 01:03:15.840
<v Speaker 5>you know exactly. I always talk about Popeye cartoons and

1196
01:03:15.840 --> 01:03:18.360
<v Speaker 5>Popeye cartoons, you know, way out of the culture, but

1197
01:03:18.440 --> 01:03:21.519
<v Speaker 5>they worked like this. Popeye got pop I got beaten

1198
01:03:21.599 --> 01:03:25.039
<v Speaker 5>up by Bluto until he got a spinach. He opened

1199
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:28.079
<v Speaker 5>the can of spinich dright ate the spinach really fast,

1200
01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:30.679
<v Speaker 5>and then he then he beat Bluto and that will

1201
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:33.199
<v Speaker 5>beat him in one and that will do him the cartoon.

1202
01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:36.519
<v Speaker 5>Every single cartoons the same what every single cartoon for

1203
01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:39.519
<v Speaker 5>a kid and for for adults to watch. He was

1204
01:03:39.599 --> 01:03:42.559
<v Speaker 5>completely satisfying. You didn't look pretty more to that and

1205
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:46.880
<v Speaker 5>and you can catch you know, it's because I think

1206
01:03:46.960 --> 01:03:49.239
<v Speaker 5>that's where right Back would be at his best. And

1207
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:51.639
<v Speaker 5>then as you build him up, if he really you know,

1208
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:55.280
<v Speaker 5>bulb or caught bomb. And I don't think it, right

1209
01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:57.360
<v Speaker 5>Back would catch fire up. All the years we see

1210
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.639
<v Speaker 5>him be a mediocrity, but but it would be better.

1211
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:02.559
<v Speaker 5>I think it will give you that segment on the show.

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01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:05.599
<v Speaker 5>People would oh, here's row act. You're gonna see something.

1213
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:09.400
<v Speaker 5>Now he's going to be somebody up. I think, you know,

1214
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:12.719
<v Speaker 5>I think that's I think that's definitely un there.

1215
01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:22.840
<v Speaker 13>Are you a fan of AW looking to sit back,

1216
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:26.039
<v Speaker 13>relax and listen to some like minded podcasters who share

1217
01:04:26.079 --> 01:04:26.599
<v Speaker 13>your passion.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you want to be topped off the ledge after

1219
01:04:29.039 --> 01:04:31.239
<v Speaker 5>a segment that has you wondering what the heck are

1220
01:04:31.280 --> 01:04:31.760
<v Speaker 5>they thinking?

1221
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<v Speaker 13>Do you want to join a discussion on what AW

1222
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.360
<v Speaker 13>is doing right and what they could do to improve?

1223
01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:39.199
<v Speaker 4>Then join me Joel and.

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01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:45.639
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<v Speaker 5>H M, tell me tell me the second question. Tell

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01:05:09.519 --> 01:05:10.559
<v Speaker 5>me the second question again?

1232
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:15.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well, I have a split question. The second question

1233
01:05:15.719 --> 01:05:20.039
<v Speaker 6>was with the what with so many you know Undertaker

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01:05:20.119 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 6>references over the past couple of weeks, do you think

1235
01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:25.880
<v Speaker 6>you know, possibly down the line we'll see a rollin

1236
01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:28.280
<v Speaker 6>Undertake a match, which I think will be pretty good.

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<v Speaker 6>And I also have a question about global Force.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, what's your question about Global Force.

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01:05:35.880 --> 01:05:39.440
<v Speaker 6>Just seeing you know, just seeing the brackening and you

1240
01:05:39.519 --> 01:05:43.320
<v Speaker 6>know them, you know, explaining their poor division, Like I

1241
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:45.519
<v Speaker 6>want to get you guys who takes you know where

1242
01:05:45.519 --> 01:05:45.880
<v Speaker 6>you see that.

1243
01:05:47.119 --> 01:05:51.599
<v Speaker 5>That's a that's a good question, Jason, what do you

1244
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:54.800
<v Speaker 5>think about Undertaker facing Seth rol.

1245
01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:58.480
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a it's a good match for Undertaker

1246
01:05:59.559 --> 01:06:01.639
<v Speaker 4>in that Hollins can create a lot of the movement

1247
01:06:01.719 --> 01:06:04.559
<v Speaker 4>for him take you know, some some crazy bumps say

1248
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:06.960
<v Speaker 4>I think it would be comparable, if not better then

1249
01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:10.719
<v Speaker 4>Undertaker's match with CM Punk the Truth now that the

1250
01:06:10.840 --> 01:06:13.960
<v Speaker 4>streak is gone. I think, you know, in that case,

1251
01:06:14.559 --> 01:06:16.079
<v Speaker 4>Rollins is just one of those guys where if he's

1252
01:06:16.119 --> 01:06:17.840
<v Speaker 4>facing Taker for the streak, I think people are going

1253
01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:20.480
<v Speaker 4>to go, oh, Taker wins again. In this case, you know,

1254
01:06:20.840 --> 01:06:23.400
<v Speaker 4>people are still probably going to assume that Taker wins again.

1255
01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:26.480
<v Speaker 4>But you know, there's a they can do different things

1256
01:06:26.519 --> 01:06:28.360
<v Speaker 4>with it. I don't know if you'll see you for all,

1257
01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:30.639
<v Speaker 4>I know that they're bringing back Taker to face Rollins

1258
01:06:30.679 --> 01:06:33.320
<v Speaker 4>at SummerSlam, but if that's not the case, and I

1259
01:06:33.360 --> 01:06:36.199
<v Speaker 4>don't know that you'll see Taker challenging Seth Rollins for

1260
01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:38.599
<v Speaker 4>the championship, but I could definitely see them doing something

1261
01:06:38.679 --> 01:06:41.119
<v Speaker 4>together at a WrestleMania if if Taker sticks with this

1262
01:06:41.239 --> 01:06:42.239
<v Speaker 4>Mania only schedule.

1263
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:45.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and you know I could see it at WrestleMania.

1264
01:06:46.039 --> 01:06:48.440
<v Speaker 5>And for the reason that you said he'd be a

1265
01:06:48.480 --> 01:06:53.880
<v Speaker 5>good oppun for it's tremendous in the ring, and you

1266
01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:57.039
<v Speaker 5>know when he's a coward and the characters, the cows

1267
01:06:57.679 --> 01:07:01.079
<v Speaker 5>that plays in, the Undertakers, the college and all that.

1268
01:07:01.239 --> 01:07:03.599
<v Speaker 5>But I would think that you would want to pull

1269
01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:06.800
<v Speaker 5>the trigger on Roman ring beating Seth Rawls before he

1270
01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:09.480
<v Speaker 5>got to that match. In other words, the championship is

1271
01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:12.920
<v Speaker 5>away from Seth Rocks and whether Tournaman range or not.

1272
01:07:13.599 --> 01:07:17.000
<v Speaker 5>The Global Force thing real quickly. My reaction Jason to

1273
01:07:17.119 --> 01:07:19.840
<v Speaker 5>this is, I don't think you know they set up

1274
01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:23.280
<v Speaker 5>that they're going to do tournaments for tournaments for Global

1275
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:29.840
<v Speaker 5>Force Championship for a you know, a New Generation league,

1276
01:07:29.840 --> 01:07:32.239
<v Speaker 5>that's what it's called the WF, but you know, a

1277
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:34.480
<v Speaker 5>young wrestlers, how do you want to say in a

1278
01:07:34.559 --> 01:07:37.960
<v Speaker 5>women's division and attacking division. I don't think Jeff Jarrett,

1279
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:41.440
<v Speaker 5>Global Force Wrestling have the time to go through a tournament.

1280
01:07:42.079 --> 01:07:44.119
<v Speaker 5>I think that that I think that they don't have

1281
01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:50.159
<v Speaker 5>anybody established. If I have, if Jeff Jarrett had called

1282
01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:51.480
<v Speaker 5>me up on the phone and said, Brus, what do

1283
01:07:51.519 --> 01:07:53.119
<v Speaker 5>you do? And you know he is yet to do

1284
01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:56.079
<v Speaker 5>this thing, and he's been in wrestling for you know,

1285
01:07:56.239 --> 01:07:59.199
<v Speaker 5>since nineteen eighty whatever it is. But if he called

1286
01:07:59.199 --> 01:08:00.960
<v Speaker 5>me and said what do you do? I would I

1287
01:08:01.000 --> 01:08:03.639
<v Speaker 5>would have set And this may make people mad, people

1288
01:08:03.719 --> 01:08:06.639
<v Speaker 5>may disagree with, but I would have set champions and

1289
01:08:06.679 --> 01:08:09.159
<v Speaker 5>all four of those divisions and then have them defended

1290
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:11.760
<v Speaker 5>and then said this is what we're going with. These

1291
01:08:11.800 --> 01:08:14.320
<v Speaker 5>are you know right now, these are our top four

1292
01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:17.239
<v Speaker 5>stars in each of these divisions, and they're going to

1293
01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:21.319
<v Speaker 5>defend against these contenders and get started. I think, you know,

1294
01:08:21.399 --> 01:08:25.920
<v Speaker 5>the the waiting for waiting for a tournament when you

1295
01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:29.720
<v Speaker 5>got a lot of you know, decent but mid pard

1296
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:33.319
<v Speaker 5>town and waiting to find out who's going to be established.

1297
01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:36.479
<v Speaker 5>He doesn't have time and and put and also just

1298
01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:39.920
<v Speaker 5>trying to sell you know, the television taping right now

1299
01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:44.399
<v Speaker 5>seems to be a TV Popps, so you know, and

1300
01:08:44.560 --> 01:08:47.520
<v Speaker 5>and we've seen what I've got. We've seen what a

1301
01:08:47.640 --> 01:08:53.319
<v Speaker 5>brand about good wrestling without stars, how how hard that

1302
01:08:53.520 --> 01:08:56.359
<v Speaker 5>is to get that on and get them on a

1303
01:08:56.479 --> 01:08:57.920
<v Speaker 5>good cable television plane.

1304
01:08:59.800 --> 01:09:03.279
<v Speaker 4>I I want to see champions earn the titles, but

1305
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:05.960
<v Speaker 4>at the same time, I'm not crazy about rolling out

1306
01:09:06.039 --> 01:09:08.000
<v Speaker 4>four tournaments at once. It kind of goes back to

1307
01:09:08.039 --> 01:09:10.560
<v Speaker 4>what we were saying about the NXT women. It's it's

1308
01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:13.479
<v Speaker 4>a little too much too soon. I think established those

1309
01:09:13.560 --> 01:09:18.039
<v Speaker 4>championships individually and you know, maybe create a need for

1310
01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:20.159
<v Speaker 4>next Gen title, I think is what they're calling it.

1311
01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:22.000
<v Speaker 4>The other thing that jumps out of me with this

1312
01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:24.960
<v Speaker 4>is that the net I guess the next Gen title.

1313
01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:26.800
<v Speaker 4>It might turn out to be great wrestling. The X

1314
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:28.760
<v Speaker 4>Division was a lot of fun in TNA, but that's

1315
01:09:28.840 --> 01:09:30.800
<v Speaker 4>just it. It's the X Division. I guess I was

1316
01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:34.079
<v Speaker 4>kind of hoping for something new, something, you know, that

1317
01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:37.000
<v Speaker 4>Jared had some fresh idea, and it wasn't just renaming

1318
01:09:37.119 --> 01:09:39.560
<v Speaker 4>the X Division the next Gen because I'm looking at

1319
01:09:39.560 --> 01:09:42.680
<v Speaker 4>the names in there and they're just X Division wrestlers.

1320
01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:46.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, what is PJ. Black? He worked in WWE

1321
01:09:46.039 --> 01:09:48.800
<v Speaker 4>as justin Gabriel. It's not like he's some new guy

1322
01:09:48.880 --> 01:09:51.000
<v Speaker 4>that no one's seen before and he's in that tournament,

1323
01:09:51.079 --> 01:09:54.159
<v Speaker 4>and so that part, I guess I just seeing the

1324
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:56.840
<v Speaker 4>next Gen thing kind of made me cringe more than

1325
01:09:56.880 --> 01:09:58.359
<v Speaker 4>it did it just like the fact that I think

1326
01:09:58.399 --> 01:10:00.359
<v Speaker 4>the matches will actually be good. It just made me

1327
01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:03.159
<v Speaker 4>cringe more than than it got me excited about Global

1328
01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:03.840
<v Speaker 4>Force Wrestling.

1329
01:10:04.880 --> 01:10:10.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, in thirteen years, the ex Division, all

1330
01:10:11.119 --> 01:10:14.840
<v Speaker 5>the wild Spot, all the crazy matches, all that stuff.

1331
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:19.039
<v Speaker 5>Soon who do you look back on and remember from

1332
01:10:19.079 --> 01:10:22.960
<v Speaker 5>that who got established as a stough, who I would

1333
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:26.640
<v Speaker 5>say made some out of the Exhibition.

1334
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:29.279
<v Speaker 4>It's been a long time. I think you have to

1335
01:10:29.359 --> 01:10:31.920
<v Speaker 4>go back to AJ Styles, Samoe, with Joe and Daniels

1336
01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:33.760
<v Speaker 4>when they were feuding over the championship.

1337
01:10:35.199 --> 01:10:37.720
<v Speaker 5>Beyond that, I mean even those three, I don't think

1338
01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:40.840
<v Speaker 5>those three made himself by the exhibision. I mean, I

1339
01:10:40.920 --> 01:10:43.760
<v Speaker 5>think AJ South got started me, but I don't think

1340
01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:46.720
<v Speaker 5>that's where, you know, that's where they made their real names.

1341
01:10:46.760 --> 01:10:49.840
<v Speaker 5>That's where the highlight of their career is an AJ Styles.

1342
01:10:49.960 --> 01:10:52.479
<v Speaker 5>I mean to me, you know, here's this guy that's

1343
01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:56.119
<v Speaker 5>home grown TNA, and it says so much to me

1344
01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:59.079
<v Speaker 5>that when he got out from under TNA, his career

1345
01:10:59.600 --> 01:11:02.560
<v Speaker 5>became so much better, you know, so much better for

1346
01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:05.880
<v Speaker 5>him finance, but he became you know, an international star

1347
01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:09.760
<v Speaker 5>much more more respect. But anyway, I'm just I'm just

1348
01:11:09.920 --> 01:11:13.159
<v Speaker 5>like that style of We're going to give a lot

1349
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:16.760
<v Speaker 5>of action, but they're not going to be stars. They're

1350
01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:20.960
<v Speaker 5>going to shape the guys that want, you know, that

1351
01:11:21.079 --> 01:11:23.520
<v Speaker 5>want spots or want you know, want a rate match

1352
01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:28.439
<v Speaker 5>the stars. I mean, I think that approach didn't do

1353
01:11:28.560 --> 01:11:29.319
<v Speaker 5>a whole lot bet.

1354
01:11:31.840 --> 01:11:34.880
<v Speaker 4>The other thing, well, the other thing I want to

1355
01:11:34.920 --> 01:11:38.199
<v Speaker 4>say about this too is I'm looking at their heavyweight

1356
01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:41.520
<v Speaker 4>tournament brackets and I mean there's only a couple of

1357
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:44.319
<v Speaker 4>matches announced as far. They're really lucky that they have

1358
01:11:44.479 --> 01:11:46.960
<v Speaker 4>this working agreement with T and A. I mean, I

1359
01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:49.439
<v Speaker 4>just I don't even know what the heavyweight title tournament

1360
01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:51.920
<v Speaker 4>would look like if they didn't have Bobby Roode involved,

1361
01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:54.880
<v Speaker 4>and I think Magnus is also in there. I just

1362
01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:58.239
<v Speaker 4>I think they would be really short on talent on

1363
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:00.800
<v Speaker 4>the heavyweight side, which is you know, build as their

1364
01:12:00.840 --> 01:12:02.079
<v Speaker 4>most important championship.

1365
01:12:02.840 --> 01:12:04.600
<v Speaker 5>And you know, when the rest of the promotions do

1366
01:12:04.800 --> 01:12:07.479
<v Speaker 5>this this crap about well, I mean, I'll put it

1367
01:12:07.560 --> 01:12:09.159
<v Speaker 5>like this. You know, Jason, I'm sure you've never heard

1368
01:12:09.239 --> 01:12:11.840
<v Speaker 5>you mention that the s C Double A Tournament is

1369
01:12:11.880 --> 01:12:15.640
<v Speaker 5>the biggest events sports with a huge amount billion dollars

1370
01:12:15.720 --> 01:12:18.680
<v Speaker 5>in this huge audience all over the country. And you know,

1371
01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:22.359
<v Speaker 5>when they announced the brackets, they don't announce two games

1372
01:12:22.920 --> 01:12:26.199
<v Speaker 5>and then tell you know, in some other time in

1373
01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:29.000
<v Speaker 5>the future, at some point, we will announce the rest

1374
01:12:29.039 --> 01:12:29.800
<v Speaker 5>of the brackets.

1375
01:12:30.239 --> 01:12:31.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, now, don't give the idea. If they can

1376
01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.399
<v Speaker 4>melk them, if they can milk out Selection Sunday into

1377
01:12:34.479 --> 01:12:36.960
<v Speaker 4>like three days and get TV ratings, they might do it.

1378
01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:39.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they might. I mean they could turn it into it.

1379
01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:40.079
<v Speaker 3>Now.

1380
01:12:40.119 --> 01:12:42.119
<v Speaker 5>I will say, as big as Selection Sunday is and

1381
01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:44.239
<v Speaker 5>they draws huge rating, if they could turn it into

1382
01:12:44.279 --> 01:12:48.079
<v Speaker 5>that damn NFL draft, I'm sure they would. But you know,

1383
01:12:48.159 --> 01:12:50.800
<v Speaker 5>they draw suage ratings everyone you know six, you know,

1384
01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:54.199
<v Speaker 5>three or four days. But but my point being, if

1385
01:12:54.239 --> 01:12:56.880
<v Speaker 5>you're going to follow a sports model and don't do

1386
01:12:57.079 --> 01:12:59.800
<v Speaker 5>that half assed. We're gonna here's a couple of guys.

1387
01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:03.359
<v Speaker 5>Don't be too massive, sound good, get the tournament pairings

1388
01:13:03.399 --> 01:13:05.560
<v Speaker 5>out there, you know, and then the other and you

1389
01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:08.399
<v Speaker 5>know the other part is and and pick you know,

1390
01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:11.239
<v Speaker 5>and pick your real commission that's supposed to be competent.

1391
01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:13.359
<v Speaker 5>It's not a it's not a heel or a baby

1392
01:13:13.439 --> 01:13:16.920
<v Speaker 5>face and go online and and you know, and and

1393
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:20.119
<v Speaker 5>then bail the tournament brackets and have the wrestlers there

1394
01:13:20.239 --> 01:13:22.720
<v Speaker 5>talking about it and then starts your turn, you know,

1395
01:13:22.760 --> 01:13:24.399
<v Speaker 5>and then starts your tournament and you can use that

1396
01:13:24.439 --> 01:13:28.880
<v Speaker 5>footage on the television ship later. But I've never seen

1397
01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:34.239
<v Speaker 5>wrestling tournaments work when when they when they're when they

1398
01:13:34.359 --> 01:13:38.439
<v Speaker 5>treat the tournament like Wimbledon. You know, like Wimbledon, you

1399
01:13:38.560 --> 01:13:41.760
<v Speaker 5>know all the seedings before it starts, there it is,

1400
01:13:42.119 --> 01:13:44.760
<v Speaker 5>and then and then you can you know, you can

1401
01:13:44.800 --> 01:13:46.840
<v Speaker 5>talk about the seedings, but there it is, and that

1402
01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:49.159
<v Speaker 5>you play the NFL playoffs same way any kind of term.

1403
01:13:49.479 --> 01:13:53.119
<v Speaker 5>When they do this halfway mess of a tournament, it

1404
01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:55.960
<v Speaker 5>doesn't make sense. And it's just and then excuse it

1405
01:13:55.960 --> 01:13:58.520
<v Speaker 5>when it's just wrestling when you know what that it's

1406
01:13:58.640 --> 01:14:01.479
<v Speaker 5>just wrestling that that doesn't look it's not going to

1407
01:14:01.520 --> 01:14:03.760
<v Speaker 5>be there. And you know, I don't think I do

1408
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:06.079
<v Speaker 5>want to see champions earnest, but I just don't think

1409
01:14:06.119 --> 01:14:07.760
<v Speaker 5>they have time to center. I don't think they have

1410
01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:11.520
<v Speaker 5>time to have a bunch of matches on a TV

1411
01:14:11.680 --> 01:14:15.680
<v Speaker 5>pilot that that finally builds the subbody winning the championship.

1412
01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:17.960
<v Speaker 5>I think they just need. You know, it's not a

1413
01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:20.560
<v Speaker 5>perfect situation, but I think they need to. I think

1414
01:14:20.640 --> 01:14:23.760
<v Speaker 5>you need to get to it. And that's sense. I mean,

1415
01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:25.960
<v Speaker 5>you don't have time to build. You need to just go.

1416
01:14:26.239 --> 01:14:28.000
<v Speaker 5>You know, this is our guy and he's better than

1417
01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:30.680
<v Speaker 5>anybody else, He's more scouting than anybody else. And then

1418
01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:32.479
<v Speaker 5>you know the network needs to jump on this, and

1419
01:14:32.760 --> 01:14:34.720
<v Speaker 5>and so does everybody else.

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01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:39.079
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<v Speaker 5>Ip so three one nine treat every course lotche calls.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Carlos. Yeah, this is Carlos from Peter Rabbits. Iowa.

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01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Had a time in and then a question.

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01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:32.840
<v Speaker 5>First, I never thought i'd be in Iowa, and I

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01:15:33.000 --> 01:15:37.800
<v Speaker 5>really enjoyed my time. So i Iowa was a cool place,

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01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:40.680
<v Speaker 5>a lot of nice people. I really had fun.

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01:15:41.880 --> 01:15:44.000
<v Speaker 4>That's the first time I've ever heard anyone say Iowa

1440
01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:46.199
<v Speaker 4>is a cool place. I've always heard really nice people,

1441
01:15:46.239 --> 01:15:49.399
<v Speaker 4>but I've never heard Iowa is a cool place. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I was about to ask you. I was about to

1443
01:15:52.279 --> 01:15:54.920
<v Speaker 3>ask how it sounds like waterleoois treating You're really good.

1444
01:15:54.960 --> 01:15:57.199
<v Speaker 3>That's good to hear because I grew up there.

1445
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:01.800
<v Speaker 5>In water, so maybe you didn't have you know, the

1446
01:16:01.880 --> 01:16:07.960
<v Speaker 5>Five Brothers Convention Center, let's see risque the seventies and

1447
01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:09.760
<v Speaker 5>eighty what was the name of that seventies eighty is far?

1448
01:16:09.880 --> 01:16:11.119
<v Speaker 5>And then the diner was cool?

1449
01:16:12.199 --> 01:16:13.079
<v Speaker 4>No broken record?

1450
01:16:13.159 --> 01:16:14.920
<v Speaker 3>Is that on broken record?

1451
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:15.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1452
01:16:15.159 --> 01:16:15.800
<v Speaker 3>Broken record?

1453
01:16:15.920 --> 01:16:18.239
<v Speaker 5>Was I enjoyed that. Of course, you know, I'm a

1454
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:20.840
<v Speaker 5>child with the seventies, so I had fun in there.

1455
01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:23.000
<v Speaker 5>And also it was just you know, cool to hang out.

1456
01:16:23.079 --> 01:16:27.439
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I thought at the museum was off and

1457
01:16:28.239 --> 01:16:31.399
<v Speaker 5>we we got you know, the river the river was

1458
01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:33.079
<v Speaker 5>great and that was off.

1459
01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:34.279
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was.

1460
01:16:35.279 --> 01:16:35.720
<v Speaker 5>I like it.

1461
01:16:36.720 --> 01:16:39.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I saw that. We put a picture of the

1462
01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:42.760
<v Speaker 3>camp Hayton Newton's Yeah, Newton's.

1463
01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:45.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Newton's Newton, which is owned by the Say people

1464
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:48.520
<v Speaker 5>Broken Record. I thought I it was you know, you know,

1465
01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:51.520
<v Speaker 5>and Jason, I know that this girl thought we were

1466
01:16:51.520 --> 01:16:53.760
<v Speaker 5>falling around because we went to Broken Record. You at

1467
01:16:53.800 --> 01:16:57.000
<v Speaker 5>the cool Bark, the Cool Barton. She was cool. She's

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01:16:57.000 --> 01:16:59.079
<v Speaker 5>telling us about her life and how she how she

1469
01:16:59.159 --> 01:17:01.399
<v Speaker 5>worked really hard and she's just go sit the concert

1470
01:17:01.479 --> 01:17:03.720
<v Speaker 5>trail and then comes back and you know, she's at

1471
01:17:03.760 --> 01:17:05.560
<v Speaker 5>that port in the life in the early twenties, and

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01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:07.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, and I was sitting there and I'm at

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01:17:07.880 --> 01:17:10.279
<v Speaker 5>this point in my life. Even if they have to

1474
01:17:10.359 --> 01:17:12.279
<v Speaker 5>do it for a job, a good looking twenty year

1475
01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:14.840
<v Speaker 5>old girl, it's being nice to me, even if it's

1476
01:17:14.840 --> 01:17:16.880
<v Speaker 5>her job, very nice to me. I enjoyed that too,

1477
01:17:17.119 --> 01:17:19.920
<v Speaker 5>so well, yeah, you know, And then it turned out

1478
01:17:19.960 --> 01:17:23.079
<v Speaker 5>she's also a waitress at Newton's doed, so it's like

1479
01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:25.760
<v Speaker 5>she's bouncing back and forth and working two shifts. That

1480
01:17:26.399 --> 01:17:28.439
<v Speaker 5>having to be you know, poor thing, having to be

1481
01:17:28.520 --> 01:17:30.560
<v Speaker 5>nice to these old guys hanging out the bar and

1482
01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:36.800
<v Speaker 5>we were the only nothing way the way. But yeah,

1483
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:39.600
<v Speaker 5>that was yeah, Newton's that was that. It had the

1484
01:17:39.760 --> 01:17:42.359
<v Speaker 5>revolving diner sign, Like I thought that was pretty good.

1485
01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:44.840
<v Speaker 5>The food is right, it was top lunch.

1486
01:17:45.960 --> 01:17:48.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they've done a lot of last few years as

1487
01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:54.520
<v Speaker 3>far as getting downtown redeveloped, a new chap the new restaurants, bars,

1488
01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:58.399
<v Speaker 3>housing options and stuff like that. So and Newton just

1489
01:17:58.399 --> 01:18:02.239
<v Speaker 3>to be a Julie Star. Our family's business. That's getting

1490
01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:06.119
<v Speaker 3>our Washington from them. So have you been to the museum.

1491
01:18:06.159 --> 01:18:08.119
<v Speaker 5>Have you've been to the National Rustling Hall of Fame Music?

1492
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, No, I haven't. I when I go up there,

1493
01:18:11.880 --> 01:18:14.119
<v Speaker 3>I usually go once to try some months just visit family.

1494
01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:16.000
<v Speaker 3>But I haven't been up there yet. And based on

1495
01:18:16.479 --> 01:18:18.880
<v Speaker 3>what you guys have been talking about, I need to

1496
01:18:18.920 --> 01:18:20.359
<v Speaker 3>go up there. I need to go visit it.

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01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:25.000
<v Speaker 5>So, I mean it covers every aspect of professional rustling,

1498
01:18:25.880 --> 01:18:28.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, including you know, boltimat War. I mean, it

1499
01:18:28.399 --> 01:18:32.680
<v Speaker 5>has it has everything, but definitely, you know, definitely it

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01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:37.439
<v Speaker 5>was a song the tough guys and the tough strong

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01:18:38.000 --> 01:18:40.600
<v Speaker 5>shoot russels who became professional offers.

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01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:45.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess with the table's name on there. That's

1503
01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:49.199
<v Speaker 3>that's the best option to take because he is, like

1504
01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:51.680
<v Speaker 3>I get said, he's like the man up here.

1505
01:18:51.880 --> 01:18:57.560
<v Speaker 5>So it comes back clearly clearly. Well, I mean I was,

1506
01:18:57.760 --> 01:18:59.960
<v Speaker 5>I was, I mean, I was just I can't believe

1507
01:19:00.000 --> 01:19:02.000
<v Speaker 5>I stand here talking to day to day talk about

1508
01:19:02.000 --> 01:19:07.640
<v Speaker 5>an American soociate that guy that guy's and you can

1509
01:19:07.720 --> 01:19:11.239
<v Speaker 5>just tell it was just it was boring. I hate

1510
01:19:11.279 --> 01:19:16.039
<v Speaker 5>saying this ny but it was live for Iowa. I

1511
01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:18.800
<v Speaker 5>got to I got to distigure Russian. Daron Dabel was

1512
01:19:19.479 --> 01:19:22.199
<v Speaker 5>what being Smith was in North Carolina and what my

1513
01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:25.159
<v Speaker 5>chefs should be. But it was a mean what Dee

1514
01:19:25.239 --> 01:19:25.760
<v Speaker 5>Smith was.

1515
01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:34.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So what's your what's your not to go on

1516
01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:34.319
<v Speaker 3>and on?

1517
01:19:34.479 --> 01:19:37.359
<v Speaker 5>What's your pro wrestling with? What's your question?

1518
01:19:37.520 --> 01:19:40.359
<v Speaker 3>And commin Well my kind of well my comment her

1519
01:19:40.479 --> 01:19:44.119
<v Speaker 3>question for last time I called, like Jason, we had

1520
01:19:44.199 --> 01:19:47.640
<v Speaker 3>talked about the women's division, and I was happy to

1521
01:19:47.680 --> 01:19:49.399
<v Speaker 3>see what they did last night. But my question for

1522
01:19:49.479 --> 01:19:52.520
<v Speaker 3>you guys is now that they've given us this, brought

1523
01:19:52.600 --> 01:19:56.319
<v Speaker 3>up the new talent, can we trust them to follow

1524
01:19:56.399 --> 01:19:56.800
<v Speaker 3>through with it?

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01:19:57.159 --> 01:19:57.680
<v Speaker 5>Long time?

1526
01:19:58.640 --> 01:19:58.680
<v Speaker 4>This?

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01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, other way, what's the point They're just getting

1528
01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:02.479
<v Speaker 3>our hopeset.

1529
01:20:04.039 --> 01:20:06.000
<v Speaker 4>No, you can't trust them to follow through with it.

1530
01:20:06.119 --> 01:20:07.880
<v Speaker 4>They need to earn that trust. I mean, you know,

1531
01:20:07.960 --> 01:20:09.880
<v Speaker 4>you can't rule out that they're actually going to change

1532
01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:12.880
<v Speaker 4>things and for the better. But until I just think

1533
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:14.840
<v Speaker 4>it's one of those you kind of waiting and hope

1534
01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:17.119
<v Speaker 4>rus Yeah, no, I agree with that.

1535
01:20:17.199 --> 01:20:19.920
<v Speaker 5>I mean you have to wait to see they you know,

1536
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:23.199
<v Speaker 5>they have they have done some tremendous things over the years.

1537
01:20:23.239 --> 01:20:26.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean, they have a decade of history behind them.

1538
01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:30.960
<v Speaker 5>They've also blown it many times and you have to

1539
01:20:31.119 --> 01:20:34.880
<v Speaker 5>look at and to me, I thought last night was

1540
01:20:35.479 --> 01:20:38.079
<v Speaker 5>it looked like gold, but it wasn't gold. It was

1541
01:20:38.119 --> 01:20:41.119
<v Speaker 5>school's gold. And a big part of that was Stephanie's

1542
01:20:41.159 --> 01:20:44.880
<v Speaker 5>mad you know, kind of taking over and taking the

1543
01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:48.319
<v Speaker 5>instances away from the women and then just bringing them up.

1544
01:20:48.359 --> 01:20:51.039
<v Speaker 5>They're going name them off and then put them in

1545
01:20:51.159 --> 01:20:52.720
<v Speaker 5>little groups and then they go to it. It was

1546
01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:55.159
<v Speaker 5>too it was too fast. It was you know, it

1547
01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:57.640
<v Speaker 5>was hard for someone to get over. But still it may,

1548
01:20:57.920 --> 01:21:00.479
<v Speaker 5>you know, it may just catch fire. Sometimes things that

1549
01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:05.600
<v Speaker 5>aren't done well catch fire because of the star power

1550
01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:10.039
<v Speaker 5>and people involved in and you know in w W

1551
01:21:10.520 --> 01:21:13.840
<v Speaker 5>in wrestling, and maybe that could happen here. But it's

1552
01:21:13.960 --> 01:21:18.239
<v Speaker 5>it's way too soon to say this works. To me,

1553
01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:22.359
<v Speaker 5>it's soon enough to say I wasn't as impressed in

1554
01:21:22.439 --> 01:21:24.800
<v Speaker 5>the first chapter as I would liked to be. I

1555
01:21:24.960 --> 01:21:27.439
<v Speaker 5>did you know, And you can also say I did

1556
01:21:27.680 --> 01:21:30.439
<v Speaker 5>like the three newcomers in the middle of the ring

1557
01:21:30.760 --> 01:21:35.279
<v Speaker 5>make you know, making everybody tap, making with wrestling holes

1558
01:21:35.279 --> 01:21:38.640
<v Speaker 5>and wrestling wings that look that look pretty cool and

1559
01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:42.600
<v Speaker 5>and being taken seriously. I like that. So, but as

1560
01:21:42.640 --> 01:21:44.720
<v Speaker 5>far as like getting your host up, get your host up,

1561
01:21:44.760 --> 01:21:48.079
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it might work, and if it doesn't. The

1562
01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:52.399
<v Speaker 5>thing about following wrestling to me is you learn stuff

1563
01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:55.279
<v Speaker 5>and it's fast. This is gonna be fascinating wherever it

1564
01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:58.079
<v Speaker 5>wherever it falls, and it works, and it works to

1565
01:21:58.199 --> 01:22:00.960
<v Speaker 5>a medium extent that they lose interesting or it was

1566
01:22:01.039 --> 01:22:06.640
<v Speaker 5>just flops all the all the players in play. You

1567
01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:14.000
<v Speaker 5>know that that story that the real story was fast. Okay,

1568
01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:22.199
<v Speaker 5>lot's not five soon. Hey, how you doing, Bruce doing

1569
01:22:22.279 --> 01:22:25.439
<v Speaker 5>all right? Going off? I have to agree with your guys.

1570
01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:27.479
<v Speaker 14>This sentiment on the Diva thing segment last night, with

1571
01:22:27.600 --> 01:22:30.039
<v Speaker 14>all them coming up, I just hit schools go like

1572
01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:31.000
<v Speaker 14>I wanted to be excited.

1573
01:22:31.079 --> 01:22:33.079
<v Speaker 5>My girlfriend she was excited, but I.

1574
01:22:33.079 --> 01:22:34.720
<v Speaker 14>Had to tell her that this isn't gonna last. And

1575
01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:38.000
<v Speaker 14>you said it best if by Stephanie's involvement and just

1576
01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:39.680
<v Speaker 14>the fact that none of it was given to any

1577
01:22:39.720 --> 01:22:42.640
<v Speaker 14>one single, uh female wrestler on your roster. It was

1578
01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:46.119
<v Speaker 14>all kind of divided amongst them evenly, three perfect sets

1579
01:22:46.159 --> 01:22:48.560
<v Speaker 14>of three, one of which was a blonde, a brunette,

1580
01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:49.119
<v Speaker 14>and a redhead.

1581
01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:52.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's so formula, it's almost kind of it was.

1582
01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:52.840
<v Speaker 14>It was deflating.

1583
01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:55.640
<v Speaker 5>I'll say that, you know what I say, I agree

1584
01:22:55.680 --> 01:22:58.680
<v Speaker 5>with a lot of what you're saying, but I've learned

1585
01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:04.720
<v Speaker 5>that when someone's watching them and they I'm really interested

1586
01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:08.000
<v Speaker 5>in that, and I don't try to like, like what side.

1587
01:23:10.720 --> 01:23:15.960
<v Speaker 4>Tom, I you know, I think it's kind of a coincidence.

1588
01:23:16.119 --> 01:23:18.119
<v Speaker 4>The hair color. I mean, it's just those are the

1589
01:23:18.159 --> 01:23:19.880
<v Speaker 4>three who are ready to be called a Bailey as

1590
01:23:19.920 --> 01:23:22.520
<v Speaker 4>as well, but she's she's still sidelined with the risk injury.

1591
01:23:22.960 --> 01:23:25.560
<v Speaker 4>I you know, I guess the thing I'd be curious

1592
01:23:25.560 --> 01:23:28.600
<v Speaker 4>about is like a somebody who's just a very casual viewer,

1593
01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:31.079
<v Speaker 4>how they're looking at this. And I'm guessing the thing

1594
01:23:31.159 --> 01:23:34.479
<v Speaker 4>you're talking about is ay Rick Flair's daughter was on

1595
01:23:35.079 --> 01:23:36.920
<v Speaker 4>and that's about all they're going to take from this.

1596
01:23:37.159 --> 01:23:39.199
<v Speaker 4>I I just don't know that they're looking if they're

1597
01:23:39.239 --> 01:23:42.960
<v Speaker 4>not watching NXT, I guess that's that's the reaction I'm

1598
01:23:43.000 --> 01:23:45.199
<v Speaker 4>hoping to get from people. People who don't watch NXT.

1599
01:23:45.600 --> 01:23:47.119
<v Speaker 4>How did they you know, how did they view this?

1600
01:23:47.520 --> 01:23:49.600
<v Speaker 4>Or is this something they're excited about? Or is this

1601
01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:52.800
<v Speaker 4>just all NXT excitement? People who know how good these

1602
01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:55.720
<v Speaker 4>women are, they're the ones who are excited. But what's

1603
01:23:55.800 --> 01:23:57.279
<v Speaker 4>the regular viewer out there thinking?

1604
01:23:58.439 --> 01:24:01.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's that's exactly right. I hear a regular viewer,

1605
01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:04.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, the girlfriend got excited. I'm like, okay, well

1606
01:24:04.439 --> 01:24:07.960
<v Speaker 5>she got excited. That that's that's the score for them.

1607
01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:14.319
<v Speaker 5>That's yeah, that's that's where we're gonna look at something.

1608
01:24:14.319 --> 01:24:17.520
<v Speaker 5>We're gonna lookt a couple of emails before we get Jason.

1609
01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:20.199
<v Speaker 5>I know we're gonna do a bonus show. I'm assuming

1610
01:24:20.199 --> 01:24:23.199
<v Speaker 5>you're okay with that, and I'm gonna evil. I've got

1611
01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:26.840
<v Speaker 5>a very evil idea that maybe we can make something up.

1612
01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:29.239
<v Speaker 5>Just I don't I don't mean to teach for the

1613
01:24:29.319 --> 01:24:32.119
<v Speaker 5>v I people, I mean the teacher there, but I

1614
01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:35.920
<v Speaker 5>have I have an idea you and I really make

1615
01:24:36.039 --> 01:24:39.319
<v Speaker 5>something up. This is v I T member Sam from

1616
01:24:39.680 --> 01:24:45.479
<v Speaker 5>Santos Day. Uh do you think that? Okay? Which the

1617
01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:48.720
<v Speaker 5>three divers of these three new new divas, of the

1618
01:24:48.760 --> 01:24:51.359
<v Speaker 5>three X team women. I sure would like for them

1619
01:24:51.439 --> 01:24:53.279
<v Speaker 5>to call them win. I like to to say we're

1620
01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:57.560
<v Speaker 5>not we'll win, you know, and we're and we're here

1621
01:24:57.600 --> 01:25:00.119
<v Speaker 5>for the championship and we're here to kick half. They

1622
01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:04.239
<v Speaker 5>say we're gonna kick that on three If it will

1623
01:25:04.239 --> 01:25:08.399
<v Speaker 5>be featured at the hot at the highest level at

1624
01:25:08.479 --> 01:25:10.920
<v Speaker 5>Russell May, and which one will be, which one will

1625
01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:13.119
<v Speaker 5>get will get that spotlight higher than the level.

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01:25:13.960 --> 01:25:17.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go with Charlotte because of the family history.

1627
01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:19.319
<v Speaker 4>I mean, not that she's not worthy of it, because

1628
01:25:19.319 --> 01:25:22.960
<v Speaker 4>she's very talented. Sasha's right there with her. Becky is

1629
01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:24.479
<v Speaker 4>the one that's kind of come on the scene here

1630
01:25:24.920 --> 01:25:27.640
<v Speaker 4>pretty strong lately. But I just think there's the built

1631
01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:30.279
<v Speaker 4>in history with Charlotte that makes her I think the

1632
01:25:30.399 --> 01:25:32.960
<v Speaker 4>right person for that job. You know, if anyone's going

1633
01:25:33.039 --> 01:25:35.640
<v Speaker 4>to get over out of this, I think it's going

1634
01:25:35.680 --> 01:25:37.359
<v Speaker 4>to be here. I mean, I hope in time they

1635
01:25:37.399 --> 01:25:39.680
<v Speaker 4>all do. But if the booking is kind of flimsy,

1636
01:25:39.960 --> 01:25:41.840
<v Speaker 4>as long as they protect her, and they don't feed

1637
01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:44.479
<v Speaker 4>it in a tully in two minutes. Again, I think

1638
01:25:44.880 --> 01:25:46.359
<v Speaker 4>she's the one to really keep an eye on.

1639
01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:55.640
<v Speaker 15>Longing for some nostalgia, or maybe you want to learn

1640
01:25:55.760 --> 01:25:59.600
<v Speaker 15>some wrestling history, don't miss the Nineties Past Cast Every

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01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:03.000
<v Speaker 15>Friday on the PW Torch Daily Cast Feed. Alex and

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01:26:03.079 --> 01:26:06.319
<v Speaker 15>Patrick will transport you thirty years into the past by

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01:26:06.439 --> 01:26:09.119
<v Speaker 15>taking you through the Torch issue from that very week.

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<v Speaker 15>Follow news from the WWF and WCW, and all the

1645
01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:16.039
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<v Speaker 15>Past Cast, every Friday on the PW Torch Daily Cast Feed.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think you're right. I think saaf If won

1649
01:26:39.119 --> 01:26:43.760
<v Speaker 5>SASA Banks one A. But yeah, yeah, I think I

1650
01:26:43.840 --> 01:26:45.960
<v Speaker 5>think that's definitely. I think that's definitely there.

1651
01:26:46.079 --> 01:26:48.199
<v Speaker 4>So does it? Were you that they paired her with

1652
01:26:48.439 --> 01:26:51.800
<v Speaker 4>Naomi and Tamina who really haven't been taken care of it.

1653
01:26:51.840 --> 01:26:56.960
<v Speaker 5>All a little bit. I think the reasons why they

1654
01:26:57.000 --> 01:26:59.199
<v Speaker 5>did that was so that they could have so that

1655
01:26:59.279 --> 01:27:01.039
<v Speaker 5>they could have a mat as a saw they can

1656
01:27:01.119 --> 01:27:06.479
<v Speaker 5>have a match, that they could do the matches. But yeah, yeah,

1657
01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:10.039
<v Speaker 5>that's the that's the kind of as you said, she

1658
01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:11.359
<v Speaker 5>didn't seem much.

1659
01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:16.720
<v Speaker 4>I would have put Alicia with those two and then

1660
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:21.000
<v Speaker 4>put uh Sasha Banks with the bellas if you insist

1661
01:27:21.119 --> 01:27:22.760
<v Speaker 4>on doing a faction war. I mean I wouldn't. I

1662
01:27:22.760 --> 01:27:24.680
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't have done any of this. But I just think

1663
01:27:24.760 --> 01:27:28.840
<v Speaker 4>Sasha's character she you know, that that very Bellai like,

1664
01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:31.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, just not that now that she's turning baby

1665
01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:33.920
<v Speaker 4>facing NXT not so much. But the boss character I

1666
01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:36.680
<v Speaker 4>think would have mixed it nicely with those two if

1667
01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:38.560
<v Speaker 4>they wanted, you know, if they had they take had

1668
01:27:38.560 --> 01:27:41.960
<v Speaker 4>they actually thought about this, But instead I don't. I mean,

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01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:44.920
<v Speaker 4>what's the bond with the Boss Sasha Banks and Naomi

1670
01:27:45.000 --> 01:27:47.119
<v Speaker 4>and Tamina. I'm just missing it completely.

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01:27:48.119 --> 01:27:50.479
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it just seems like, yeah, there's no And that's

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01:27:51.079 --> 01:27:54.760
<v Speaker 5>to me that's the problem with I mean, I wonder

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01:27:54.840 --> 01:27:58.560
<v Speaker 5>where this I wonder where. I wonder how this idea

1674
01:27:58.560 --> 01:28:01.640
<v Speaker 5>of morphed into the step in it makes because it

1675
01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:03.720
<v Speaker 5>sure look to me like there was going to be

1676
01:28:03.760 --> 01:28:06.960
<v Speaker 5>an XP invasion with these three kicking asps, and then

1677
01:28:07.039 --> 01:28:09.960
<v Speaker 5>it became Stephanie's gonna be involved in it to really

1678
01:28:10.039 --> 01:28:11.680
<v Speaker 5>hit it over so she can get the love to

1679
01:28:11.760 --> 01:28:14.880
<v Speaker 5>thee because she's you know, a wonderful role model for

1680
01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:19.439
<v Speaker 5>athletic women everywhere, and blah blah blah. I you know,

1681
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:23.399
<v Speaker 5>I just you know, I wonder, you know, I wonder,

1682
01:28:24.000 --> 01:28:28.640
<v Speaker 5>I wonder, like you know, where where they you know,

1683
01:28:28.840 --> 01:28:31.119
<v Speaker 5>why they put them in other words, they could have

1684
01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:35.880
<v Speaker 5>if they if they had done Charlotte this week, you know,

1685
01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:37.800
<v Speaker 5>and it spread them out and had to come out,

1686
01:28:37.800 --> 01:28:40.640
<v Speaker 5>and they could come up with reasons why they're you know,

1687
01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:44.520
<v Speaker 5>organic reasons why they're they're alive with you know, with

1688
01:28:44.680 --> 01:28:47.600
<v Speaker 5>pay their page being the one to bring them and

1689
01:28:48.399 --> 01:28:51.279
<v Speaker 5>and then and then someone calling in Slasha Vents and

1690
01:28:51.319 --> 01:28:54.039
<v Speaker 5>sent them just we don't know why these people exactly together.

1691
01:28:54.479 --> 01:28:56.039
<v Speaker 5>You know, the page kind of makes sense that you've

1692
01:28:56.039 --> 01:28:58.880
<v Speaker 5>been watching n ST and watching w w A, But

1693
01:28:59.000 --> 01:29:03.840
<v Speaker 5>why it it took it took it away from the

1694
01:29:03.920 --> 01:29:07.399
<v Speaker 5>storyline by having definitely you know, it's definitely gonna patten

1695
01:29:07.439 --> 01:29:10.760
<v Speaker 5>herself on the back of being you know, from from

1696
01:29:11.720 --> 01:29:19.680
<v Speaker 5>for this. Let's see, this is that's the you member

1697
01:29:20.319 --> 01:29:23.279
<v Speaker 5>Jay Dad one twenty Hall of Famer Way the future

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01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:26.239
<v Speaker 5>Hall of Famer. Jason, have two quick questions for you.

1699
01:29:27.000 --> 01:29:30.279
<v Speaker 5>I mean, all right, Anyway, when Lisa Scott Lee being

1700
01:29:30.399 --> 01:29:35.680
<v Speaker 5>fired from DEDE, she was she was the person who

1701
01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:39.439
<v Speaker 5>created that was below triple H and dismantment, above the

1702
01:29:39.520 --> 01:29:42.520
<v Speaker 5>writers and Brian Dewartz leaving. What does this mean for

1703
01:29:42.600 --> 01:29:46.039
<v Speaker 5>the creative team? Also, I'm worried for the NFTD this

1704
01:29:46.159 --> 01:29:47.840
<v Speaker 5>because I don't trust that will going to need to

1705
01:29:47.920 --> 01:29:51.159
<v Speaker 5>do like of it. What about Brian to works and

1706
01:29:52.279 --> 01:29:56.920
<v Speaker 5>Lisa Scott Lee that will change anything With Brian.

1707
01:29:57.199 --> 01:29:59.600
<v Speaker 4>Brian has been working part time for the longest time.

1708
01:29:59.600 --> 01:30:02.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean he's there anytime Rock is there, that's his guy.

1709
01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:05.159
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't even be surprised even though he's leaving, he's

1710
01:30:05.199 --> 01:30:07.359
<v Speaker 4>still associated with Rock. I wouldn't be surprised at all

1711
01:30:07.399 --> 01:30:09.119
<v Speaker 4>of when Rock shows up, you still see him. I

1712
01:30:09.119 --> 01:30:10.800
<v Speaker 4>know he's doing a little bit more than just Rocks

1713
01:30:10.840 --> 01:30:13.880
<v Speaker 4>up with the company, kind of working as a very

1714
01:30:13.920 --> 01:30:17.840
<v Speaker 4>part time guy. I don't think it changes much. I

1715
01:30:18.039 --> 01:30:19.760
<v Speaker 4>just you know, I don't know how much he's been

1716
01:30:19.840 --> 01:30:26.039
<v Speaker 4>responsible for as far as the the other dismissal first,

1717
01:30:26.079 --> 01:30:28.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean as high of a position as she had.

1718
01:30:28.159 --> 01:30:31.960
<v Speaker 4>I just don't hear much about creative and who's really

1719
01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:34.479
<v Speaker 4>calling the shots aside from well we know it's bench

1720
01:30:34.520 --> 01:30:36.520
<v Speaker 4>has final sake, Kevin duns in his ear, and certainly

1721
01:30:36.560 --> 01:30:39.279
<v Speaker 4>Triple H has some influence as well. I just don't

1722
01:30:39.279 --> 01:30:42.399
<v Speaker 4>even know what the pecking order is now for writers

1723
01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:44.640
<v Speaker 4>beyond the head the head and writer level, and so

1724
01:30:44.760 --> 01:30:46.520
<v Speaker 4>I just don't know how much he was contributing.

1725
01:30:47.520 --> 01:30:49.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I agree with that. I want to you know,

1726
01:30:49.159 --> 01:30:52.039
<v Speaker 5>I think that maybe she was more administrative. I mean,

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01:30:52.079 --> 01:30:55.840
<v Speaker 5>I don't hear that this was there, Like you said,

1728
01:30:55.880 --> 01:30:59.359
<v Speaker 5>you York for years was Rotkin and you know he

1729
01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:01.600
<v Speaker 5>just him up work. But he had been he had

1730
01:31:01.640 --> 01:31:04.760
<v Speaker 5>been de emphasized a long time ago. And I don't know.

1731
01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:07.399
<v Speaker 5>I just think the creative team is in the same

1732
01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:13.800
<v Speaker 5>position that's always them, which is they're those guys are

1733
01:31:13.840 --> 01:31:16.000
<v Speaker 5>gonna be kept off guard. You know, they're gonna be

1734
01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:19.319
<v Speaker 5>They're gonna do some good work and do some other

1735
01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:22.079
<v Speaker 5>work and they're not exactly make the credit for and

1736
01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:26.079
<v Speaker 5>then the main creative force is gonna be a man

1737
01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:32.039
<v Speaker 5>on Triple H. And I don't think that changed when

1738
01:31:32.079 --> 01:31:33.920
<v Speaker 5>will don't get their heads out of the stand and

1739
01:31:33.960 --> 01:31:37.119
<v Speaker 5>realize people won't go for Jerry springer swork, but the

1740
01:31:37.199 --> 01:31:39.840
<v Speaker 5>Jerry Swing Spreinger Show and when to understand did good

1741
01:31:40.399 --> 01:31:41.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, did good enough?

1742
01:31:42.600 --> 01:31:42.880
<v Speaker 4>Really?

1743
01:31:43.119 --> 01:31:46.680
<v Speaker 5>The four show I assume is doing doing that. It's

1744
01:31:47.159 --> 01:31:51.720
<v Speaker 5>you know, Sunday Sunday night shows NXC and those shows.

1745
01:31:51.760 --> 01:31:54.159
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm not san Terry Springer Swos even though

1746
01:31:54.760 --> 01:31:56.199
<v Speaker 5>I got to see the great you know, the way

1747
01:31:56.279 --> 01:31:58.039
<v Speaker 5>I got to spend time with the great Harry Wife

1748
01:31:58.079 --> 01:32:02.720
<v Speaker 5>he was. I guess I'm friendle But you know, if

1749
01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:06.840
<v Speaker 5>if the money works, they can afford them, and they

1750
01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:12.720
<v Speaker 5>they're they're successful. I don't know, So that's you know,

1751
01:32:13.199 --> 01:32:15.279
<v Speaker 5>that's one of that war shots fired and it was

1752
01:32:15.319 --> 01:32:16.880
<v Speaker 5>just released. It would be cool if you watched the

1753
01:32:16.960 --> 01:32:20.840
<v Speaker 5>final Nitro box Fialcas and and and see what why.

1754
01:32:22.279 --> 01:32:25.039
<v Speaker 5>Well you can't because w SE Nitro stops in nineteen

1755
01:32:25.119 --> 01:32:27.520
<v Speaker 5>ninety six. But now you'll get to do that at

1756
01:32:27.560 --> 01:32:30.680
<v Speaker 5>some point. And I guess, I guess Jason, they added

1757
01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:35.199
<v Speaker 5>I saw a whole bunch of E C W. But

1758
01:32:35.319 --> 01:32:37.359
<v Speaker 5>I think you know, E C W W. You've got

1759
01:32:37.479 --> 01:32:40.039
<v Speaker 5>to addit that. I mean, you've got to have the

1760
01:32:40.119 --> 01:32:43.520
<v Speaker 5>generic music, and that's that's no fun, and that God

1761
01:32:43.640 --> 01:32:45.239
<v Speaker 5>knows some of the other you know, some of the

1762
01:32:45.279 --> 01:32:50.079
<v Speaker 5>other content. More Today, it's got to be I mean,

1763
01:32:50.119 --> 01:32:52.560
<v Speaker 5>I'm assuming that's editor if you're gonna you know, you

1764
01:32:52.640 --> 01:32:55.000
<v Speaker 5>don't see why e c W. I mean I think

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01:32:55.520 --> 01:32:56.680
<v Speaker 5>I think you have searched out.

1766
01:32:58.520 --> 01:33:00.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think that's going to be difficult they

1767
01:33:01.119 --> 01:33:03.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they're definitely gonna have to trim some of

1768
01:33:03.079 --> 01:33:06.279
<v Speaker 4>that music off there. I think they'll leave. Content wise.

1769
01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:08.079
<v Speaker 4>I think they leave it and just put up some

1770
01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:10.600
<v Speaker 4>sort of a disclaimer. I'd be surprised they did too

1771
01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:12.279
<v Speaker 4>much with that. I mean, you can still see Chris

1772
01:33:12.399 --> 01:33:15.880
<v Speaker 4>Benjan different things, and so they're just kind of leaving.

1773
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:19.119
<v Speaker 4>They're kind of boasting like as is type thing. But

1774
01:33:19.159 --> 01:33:21.760
<v Speaker 4>the music is a different story. What was the other

1775
01:33:21.800 --> 01:33:25.520
<v Speaker 4>part of Oh, Swerved? I've seen a couple of the episodes.

1776
01:33:26.159 --> 01:33:29.359
<v Speaker 4>They're positioning it pretty strongly in that they like to

1777
01:33:29.439 --> 01:33:32.439
<v Speaker 4>air it right after raw, and so I'm sure they're

1778
01:33:32.479 --> 01:33:37.119
<v Speaker 4>getting decent numbers just for that reason. People still how

1779
01:33:37.279 --> 01:33:39.800
<v Speaker 4>or why they'd want a WWE fix after three hours

1780
01:33:39.840 --> 01:33:42.039
<v Speaker 4>and fifteen minutes, I don't know why, but I'm sure

1781
01:33:42.039 --> 01:33:45.439
<v Speaker 4>they do get some people going there right afterward. It's

1782
01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:49.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I haven't watched the Jerry Springer show. Swerve

1783
01:33:49.920 --> 01:33:52.159
<v Speaker 4>doesn't do much for me. But it's kind of mindless TV.

1784
01:33:52.239 --> 01:33:55.560
<v Speaker 4>I've done it myself. Row's over and I'm still working

1785
01:33:55.600 --> 01:33:56.760
<v Speaker 4>on things, and they'll just kind of have it on

1786
01:33:56.880 --> 01:33:59.319
<v Speaker 4>in the background. So it's kind of perfect as far

1787
01:33:59.359 --> 01:34:01.640
<v Speaker 4>as just being my English. And I don't know that

1788
01:34:01.720 --> 01:34:04.439
<v Speaker 4>it always shows the talent in the best light, but

1789
01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:10.000
<v Speaker 4>it's if you've seen the prank shows on m t V,

1790
01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:12.920
<v Speaker 4>it's just a watered down, very light w w E

1791
01:34:13.039 --> 01:34:14.840
<v Speaker 4>corporate version of those. You know, they're never going to

1792
01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:17.720
<v Speaker 4>go too far with anything, and so it's just it's

1793
01:34:17.800 --> 01:34:21.479
<v Speaker 4>it's a pretty came version of I guess is the

1794
01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:22.279
<v Speaker 4>one that they used to do.

1795
01:34:23.359 --> 01:34:26.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, I think people, I mean, you know,

1796
01:34:26.800 --> 01:34:29.520
<v Speaker 5>it's more popular. They get more views than say, the

1797
01:34:30.560 --> 01:34:33.119
<v Speaker 5>you know, than the Nitro shows, than the you know,

1798
01:34:33.399 --> 01:34:38.239
<v Speaker 5>the the the old programming has not been a huge

1799
01:34:38.640 --> 01:34:40.479
<v Speaker 5>success to say the least. I mean, it's at the

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01:34:40.520 --> 01:34:44.000
<v Speaker 5>bottom of the bottom, with the exception of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>I think the Special Facts are famous rustlersise and I

1802
01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:51.000
<v Speaker 5>know that I know that the second show last Monday Night,

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01:34:51.239 --> 01:34:57.560
<v Speaker 5>Dustin Leves produced by this man with the jarry Laller

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01:34:57.640 --> 01:35:03.880
<v Speaker 5>hosting on Aniston Ritt Flair together and you know, j

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<v Speaker 5>j Dillon and Michael Hayes. They were very happy to

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<v Speaker 5>ab so that they can so you know, we'll see

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<v Speaker 16>There's always a place for wrestlings Past in the Paradise too,

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