Speaker 1: This is WWE Superstar Drew McIntyre and you're listening to
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Speaker 3: All right, everybody, Welcome to the ww podcast. Time to
Speaker 3: talk Monday Night Raw. That took place last night, and boy,
Speaker 3: what an event it was?
Speaker 4: What a I mean?
Speaker 3: I feel like RAW had more talking points than the
Speaker 3: actual pl did for Survivor series. There's there's a lot
Speaker 3: to talk about, big events, big return to big hill turns.
Speaker 3: That's right, two big hill turns. We'll talk about that
Speaker 3: on a segment with The New Day that I have
Speaker 3: been back and forth and forth and back and seeing
Speaker 3: every opinion under the sun about it, and I've been
Speaker 3: able to formulate my own opinion. I think I've landed
Speaker 3: on a solid perspective on that one, as I've kind
Speaker 3: of waffled back and forth. But I want to welcome
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Speaker 3: let's get into it. Let's get into Monday Night Row.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna talk about the New Day right off
Speaker 3: the top, not gonna wait. I'm gonna talk about the
Speaker 3: New Day. Yes, we had a big return at the
Speaker 3: end of the show. Yes we had a punk seth
Speaker 3: rollins segment and New Day celebrating throughout the night looking
Speaker 3: like things are good, and both Kofe and Xavier turn.
Speaker 3: Both men turn, not just Xavier that we've been expecting
Speaker 3: for weeks and weeks and really months at this point,
Speaker 3: and it really did swerve us, most of us. I
Speaker 3: don't think anybody saw Kofe also being the one to
Speaker 3: turn with Xavier. I don't think that was really something
Speaker 3: that was in the cards, including myself.
Speaker 4: I mean I didn't see it coming.
Speaker 3: I might have floated it as a possibility, and yeah,
Speaker 3: at one point I might have, but I certainly didn't
Speaker 3: land on it as any serious reality that could take place.
Speaker 4: And it did. So let's let's get into it. Let's
Speaker 4: let's let's get into the.
Speaker 3: Details here as a as a point by point, and
Speaker 3: we have have the New Day ceremony, balloons, championship belts, photos, bootios,
Speaker 3: and Pierce comes out and introduces Kofe and Xavier. They
Speaker 3: walked out together and the crowd was chanting New Day rocks,
Speaker 3: and then we had Woods said getting to this point
Speaker 3: is more than they could have dreamed of. Woods said
Speaker 3: they wanted to thank everyone, and Kingston said has been
Speaker 3: a hell of a ride. He said he never in
Speaker 3: his wildest dreams would have imagined everything they'd accomplish. Kingston
Speaker 3: said they could have couldn't have done it without the fans,
Speaker 3: and fans called for Big Ee. Woods said they missed
Speaker 3: him too, and Woods said what they were about to
Speaker 3: tell the fans is not their fault. Woods said they
Speaker 3: have nothing but love for the fans, and Kingston said
Speaker 3: he and Wood spoke and after what happened between them
Speaker 3: last week and Biggie's entrance theme interrupted, Kingston and Biggie
Speaker 3: walked out, while Barrett said that while Biggie has hosted
Speaker 3: premium live events, he hasn't appeared on Raw SmackDown in
Speaker 3: nearly four years.
Speaker 4: That's crazy, It's crazy. Is it really been four years?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Way, I mean, I have to go back. I got
Speaker 3: to google that when did Biggie get injured? Because when
Speaker 3: I heard that stat, I said to myself, well, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: that's wrong, that's wrong. Okay, Biggie was injured back on
Speaker 3: March eleventh, twenty twenty two, so I was like, what
Speaker 3: almost three years ago? I mean two and three quarter
Speaker 3: years ago, so that that's a wrong stat unless I'm
Speaker 3: reading this wrong. But however, we let's continue on here.
Speaker 3: We had Biggie tell the fans he can't thank them enough.
Speaker 3: He said he wished he was there under the under
Speaker 3: different circumstances, and said that seeing Kingston and Woods bickering
Speaker 3: and saying some of the most hurtful things imaginable to
Speaker 3: one another hurt his soul, and he said they had
Speaker 3: each other when they started the New Day, and Kingston
Speaker 3: was contemplating retirement and he and Woods were close to
Speaker 3: being fired. Biggie recalled Kingston and Woods being at the
Speaker 3: hospital making sure he was okay. He spoke about being
Speaker 3: in a neck brace when he held Kingston's child for
Speaker 3: the first time, and he said that what they built
Speaker 3: means a lot to people, and it means a hell
Speaker 3: of a lot to him. So until I'm medically the
Speaker 3: cleared to return to this ring, I'm going to remind
Speaker 3: the two of you exactly who we are or who
Speaker 3: you are. And Biggie added he would be there every
Speaker 3: week as their manager. That's about to change because Woods
Speaker 3: said he was about to speak when a new Day
Speaker 3: rocks Champ broke out and Or he was about to speak,
Speaker 3: and then he said, now you want to come back
Speaker 3: after you watched this fight for months, after you watched
Speaker 3: us argue to the edge of a cliff and the
Speaker 3: last thing left to do is jump. Now you want
Speaker 3: to come back e you left us and Kingston Or
Speaker 3: he said that he broke his neck, Kingston cut him off,
Speaker 3: and probably the line of the night. I can't believe
Speaker 3: that Kofi Kingston had the line of the night, but
Speaker 3: he did, and he said, yeah, you broke your neck,
Speaker 3: so what And he said that Steve, Austin, Kurrent, Angle
Speaker 3: and Edge all broke their next and came back. And
Speaker 3: Woods said those three didn't even have people to come
Speaker 3: back too. And Big Kingston said, as big and strong
Speaker 3: as he is, and because he never actually had surgery,
Speaker 3: he was actually telling them he couldn't have come back before.
Speaker 3: E said he's been doing his best to get back,
Speaker 3: and then Wood said he tore his achilles off the
Speaker 3: bone and actually needed surgery, but he was back in
Speaker 3: nine months. For Bigie, Kingston said that if he actually
Speaker 3: cared about them, he would have been back a long
Speaker 3: time ago. And he chose his life as a new
Speaker 3: girlfriend his stepchild over them. Do you even realize the
Speaker 3: burden you've become? That's a great line. Woods complained about
Speaker 3: the fans everywhere saying they miss E, and Woods say
Speaker 3: they almost almost also miss E, but E didn't miss them,
Speaker 3: and Biggie's They said that Biggie chose himself over Woods,
Speaker 3: and Woods told Ee to stop teasing the people and
Speaker 3: speak the truth. He said, you're never going to be
Speaker 3: medically cleared. Woods told he to get the hell out
Speaker 3: of the ring and get back to his desk where
Speaker 3: he belongs, and Biggie was off Mike saying, you know,
Speaker 3: you guys are gonna really throw this all away right now,
Speaker 3: they could fix this. Biggie went for a hug at
Speaker 3: Kingston straight armed him, and Biggie pleaded with Woods. So
Speaker 3: I did have mixed feelings on this.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: I was very adamant that the only solution that they
Speaker 3: could have at this point to not be to not
Speaker 3: do anything wild, was to have Kofe an Xavier have
Speaker 3: a few big E tries to break it up, you
Speaker 3: know whatever, he's there for for some kind of trying
Speaker 3: to be the voice of reason, and Xavier turns on
Speaker 3: Kofe and instead we get just a apparently off camera
Speaker 3: resolution between Xavier and Kofe, and they came up with
Speaker 3: the brilliant idea that Big Ye is the is the problem.
Speaker 3: He's the reason that they're failing, even though he's not there.
Speaker 3: That's the whole point. He's not there to help when
Speaker 3: he should be, even I mean even saying you broke
Speaker 3: your neck, so what I mean, that's that's just it's great.
Speaker 3: I don't know who came up with that, but boy,
Speaker 3: that was that was That was a very impactful line,
Speaker 3: and so I was originally a little bit annoyed that
Speaker 3: they just totally abandoned this story that they built with
Speaker 3: Kofee and Xavier and the tension and the shoving and
Speaker 3: when are they going to finally attack one another? One's
Speaker 3: Xavier finally going to have enough? And they didn't pay
Speaker 3: that off in that way. It still may come down
Speaker 3: the line, but for the time being, we are getting
Speaker 3: a dual heel turn with Biggie who's apparently not medically
Speaker 3: cleared to can wrestle yet. And again I was originally annoyed,
Speaker 3: but the promos were arguably the best promos that either
Speaker 3: man has cut in their entire careers. Now that's not
Speaker 3: saying much given that I have a massive issue with
Speaker 3: the New Day characters. I've despised them for the last decade.
Speaker 3: Like I said, outside of the first half a year,
Speaker 3: I was not entertained by them and did not find
Speaker 3: them funny. I found them obnoxious. The trombone more than
Speaker 3: outlived It's welcome. We had bootios, we had disrespecting the
Speaker 3: WWE Championship. I mean, just go down the line, the
Speaker 3: inside jokes, the sophomore humor, the breaking of the fourth wall,
Speaker 3: all the crap that I hate about pro wrestling in
Speaker 3: today's modern era, they embodied on a weekly basis, and
Speaker 3: I despise them for it. Okay, so the bar is
Speaker 3: not exactly high. I mean I can't even recall any
Speaker 3: good promos from them at all during that ten years,
Speaker 3: so the bar again is low. But I also may
Speaker 3: be a bit biased, and given that I just tune
Speaker 3: them out on a weekly basis. So my point is
Speaker 3: they had an awesome night because these promos. Were they
Speaker 3: over the top a bit?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden just turning on E because
Speaker 3: he wasn't there for them, even though he has a
Speaker 3: broken neck. Is that a little bit off the believable spectrum?
Speaker 3: You could argue? But what does this do? It turns
Speaker 3: both men heel, which both men are in desperate need
Speaker 3: of a change after ten effing years of doing the
Speaker 3: same shtick. It's about time. It also showed you how
Speaker 3: good Exavier is on the mic, or rather reminded you
Speaker 3: how good he is on the mic.
Speaker 4: He was just stellar. I mean, Xavier played his part well,
Speaker 4: so did Kofe. Who knew Kofe had that in him?
Speaker 3: Mister positivity, right, it was great and to see the
Speaker 3: sympathy on Bigie's face or the hurt on his face
Speaker 3: to garner sympathy from the viewing audience, I think it
Speaker 3: generally worked. Now the question is, okay, you did this
Speaker 3: two heel turns. Now, what's the deal? What do you
Speaker 3: do with this group? The group is effectively disbanded outside
Speaker 3: of KOFE and Xavier still remaining a team, which, again
Speaker 3: the downside is Xavier doesn't get his breakouts singles run
Speaker 3: yet that we've been waiting for. I know I have,
Speaker 3: but you've seen that he can definitely hold his own.
Speaker 3: He's more than ready for a singles run. But if
Speaker 3: they feel that this temporary still alliance with KOFE is
Speaker 3: going to be best for his long term success, than fine,
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm I'm ready to see where they
Speaker 3: take it. But the sympathy on Biggie's face is where
Speaker 3: we're really supposed to keep our focus here, because the
Speaker 3: fans are thinking, well, where the hell is Biggie? If
Speaker 3: they're gonna do this, they got to have him medically
Speaker 3: cleared right, Well, he may be close, and I think
Speaker 3: that there's a theory out there that's been floated that
Speaker 3: I prescribe to, and that is Big Eie returning to
Speaker 3: in ring action at the Royal Rumble. That's what I
Speaker 3: think is going to happen. And I think what you're
Speaker 3: going to see is having both e I'm sorry, Kofe
Speaker 3: and Xavier run rough shot be just obnoxious as hell
Speaker 3: for the next two months, maybe even have Big Eie
Speaker 3: next we come back or on SmackDown because they the
Speaker 3: brand rules don't exist wherever, and try to just talk
Speaker 3: to them one last time, give it one last try
Speaker 3: to fix things. And they then resort to trying to
Speaker 3: break Biggie's neck with a chair. I did talk about
Speaker 3: that on my previous show, that that's a possibility, you know,
Speaker 3: and having Big Ee somehow get involved physically, but that's
Speaker 3: how you do it. And maybe they do use a
Speaker 3: chair around his head and try to snap his neck again,
Speaker 3: and maybe they go that far in a safe way,
Speaker 3: of course, and then Bigie disappears for two months, right
Speaker 3: he disappears. You kind of put him in the back
Speaker 3: of your mind thinking, okay, well they did that spot,
Speaker 3: maybe he's not medically cleared, and then both Kofe and
Speaker 3: Xavier are in the ring alone, at the Rumble and
Speaker 3: here comes Big e That would be a hell of
Speaker 3: a story to tell in the Rumble. Not that any
Speaker 3: of those three men have a chance to win the Rumble,
Speaker 3: but it's one of those those stories within the general
Speaker 3: story for the Royal Rumble that I would love to
Speaker 3: see play out and have Big Eie the pop for
Speaker 3: Biggie if he weard who returns to the ring at
Speaker 3: the Rumble, I think would be you know, if a
Speaker 3: ten is the best pop I've ever heard, it'd probably
Speaker 3: be like a seven and a half, which is again
Speaker 3: in the grand scheme of thirty years of watching and
Speaker 3: listen to wrestling, pretty good, pretty good, you know sample
Speaker 3: size seven and a half I think is where it
Speaker 3: would land. And just because if they set it upright
Speaker 3: and having Big Eie come out, it would be a
Speaker 3: lot of fun. Now the question would become, you know,
Speaker 3: what's the long term plan? Is Biggie just work with
Speaker 3: Kofeed Xavier.
Speaker 4: Down the line?
Speaker 3: Where does that land? I mean, you can't do a
Speaker 3: two on one scenario forever, So how do things even out? Well,
Speaker 3: Biggie has to find a companion. At some point, He's
Speaker 3: gonna have to find a tag team partner to take
Speaker 3: down the New Day or take down with le of
Speaker 3: the New Day in Kofe and Xavier. So again that's
Speaker 3: about four steps, five steps, six steps away.
Speaker 4: But this is.
Speaker 3: Clearly something that they're working towards, because otherwise you wouldn't
Speaker 3: bring Biggie in here to use him as a tool
Speaker 3: for a heel turn, which I think was very effective.
Speaker 3: A dual heel turn. How often do you see that?
Speaker 3: And then you have Biggie be set up for again
Speaker 3: a physical in ring return if you don't have big
Speaker 3: Eie return for entering competition. I don't know what the
Speaker 3: hell this was for. Yeah, I don't know, but it
Speaker 3: does also make me excited for what could be next
Speaker 3: for Biggie. And maybe he stops gyrating and he stops
Speaker 3: making jokes, it starts getting serious. That'd be nice, if
Speaker 3: you know, if he comes back on a singles run.
Speaker 3: But anyway, my ultimate conclusion for this segment while I did,
Speaker 3: was mixed and back and forth. They've hooked me, not
Speaker 3: line and sinker, but I have the hook in my
Speaker 3: mouth and I'm willing to go along for the ride.
Speaker 3: I initially was saying, are you what is this? Why
Speaker 3: are we pivoting thinking it's one of those Vince McMahon
Speaker 3: specials where they pivot to pivot to shock for shock's sake,
Speaker 3: with no actual idea of what the follow up is,
Speaker 3: just to swerve fans that think they're the smart ones
Speaker 3: that know what we're gonna do, and that ha, see
Speaker 3: how we're gonna fool you, And then his fans are
Speaker 3: gonna go, Okay, yeah, cool, you did. What's next though,
Speaker 3: how how does this benefit you again long term? Do
Speaker 3: you have a plan?
Speaker 4: No? Oh well, congrats, congratulations. Right.
Speaker 3: It felt a lot of times like creative we do
Speaker 3: that to fans, and with Triple H and company, they
Speaker 3: seem more strategic. They're all about storytelling long term. At
Speaker 3: least they're fooling me. If they aren't, it seems like
Speaker 3: they are. So I'm here for it, like I'm gonna
Speaker 3: let it play itself out, and I've kind of given
Speaker 3: you a at least through the rumble of how things
Speaker 3: I think could go. All right, Well, we obviously had
Speaker 3: a lot more happen on Raw, so.
Speaker 4: Let's get to that.
Speaker 3: Let's start at the beginning of Raw, and we had
Speaker 3: Punk come out in his non wrestling attire, introduced by
Speaker 3: Lily and Garcia still cool to he hear Lilian on
Speaker 3: the mic and he says, oh, it's good to be alive.
Speaker 3: I don't know why he does that, but he said
Speaker 3: the show. The show was sold out. He said the
Speaker 3: last time he saw fans, fans saw him on RAW.
Speaker 3: He wasn't sure what the future held coming from a
Speaker 3: Helen a Cell match, and said he was fresh off
Speaker 3: of a potential career ending War Games match, but he
Speaker 3: was feeling a lot better than he did coming out
Speaker 3: of Helen a Cell. And he said that he put
Speaker 3: things aside and in some personal business for a friend,
Speaker 3: Paul Haman and then Punks took it and stood on
Speaker 3: the middle rope and said he knows what the future holds.
Speaker 3: He pointed to the rafters and asked fans if they
Speaker 3: could see it. Punk said he could see it, even
Speaker 3: though everyone told him it wasn't there. Punk said he
Speaker 3: knows what the future holds. He said there are different
Speaker 3: roads you can take to get there, and there's different
Speaker 3: ways to finish your story. Can we retire that phrase?
Speaker 3: I just I need to retire the finish your story phrase.
Speaker 3: I don't need to hear it anymore. But Punk spoke
Speaker 3: about the Royal Rumble an elimination chamber being his possible road,
Speaker 3: and he also said he has a favor or two
Speaker 3: that he can call in, so that could be exactly
Speaker 3: what he's using for Paul Haman. For is not to
Speaker 3: get a match with Roman, he could do that at
Speaker 3: any time, but to potentially use Paul Haman's leverage, his
Speaker 3: political influence, if you will, to get himself into a
Speaker 3: big time match for a championship. Maybe Punk also should
Speaker 3: explore the option of I don't know, attack the champion,
Speaker 3: go up to him and just say, hey, you and me,
Speaker 3: what do you want to put the belt online? Hey, Gunther,
Speaker 3: I'm calling you out, just like walk out Raw and
Speaker 3: walk out with Rawl and say hey, calling you out,
Speaker 3: or even put out a simple tweet.
Speaker 4: All of these are.
Speaker 3: Ultra easy and will be as effective as getting a
Speaker 3: match by going the hard way.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: So, of course I'm using too much logic. In pro
Speaker 3: wrestling land, they are trying to tell a story with Punk,
Speaker 3: I understand that. But if this was actually a real
Speaker 3: a real competition, and this was something that was actually
Speaker 3: something he was trying to do but trying to find
Speaker 3: a way to do it, this would be the way. Literally,
Speaker 3: send out a tweet and you will get your match,
Speaker 3: or at least it'll be the start of your progression
Speaker 3: towards getting a championship match. Again, like I said, just
Speaker 3: call him out on a raw, but I get it.
Speaker 4: It's a story. It's fine.
Speaker 3: So anyway, he said that he oh after the favor.
Speaker 3: We then got interrupted by Seth Rollins and Punk and
Speaker 3: Rollin stood in opposite corners, and then we had Rollin
Speaker 3: say he's been he's been thinking a lot, and he
Speaker 3: determined that he should have knocked Punk's ass out the
Speaker 3: day he returned to w w A and said he's
Speaker 3: regretted not doing it every single day for the past year.
Speaker 3: Rollin said he is said a lot has gotten in
Speaker 3: the way over the last year, and Rollin said Punk
Speaker 3: got hurt. He had titles to the defend and a
Speaker 3: bloodline to take down. Rollin said the last time he
Speaker 3: saw Punk, he was close to taking his shot, but
Speaker 3: yet he had pity for him because he had just
Speaker 3: come out of Helen a Cell. Rollin said having pity
Speaker 3: for Punk was his mistake, and Rollin said that's seeing
Speaker 3: punk Sten triumphant next to Roman Reigns made it clear
Speaker 3: to him that it was time to rectify his mistake.
Speaker 3: Rollins removed his jacket tossed it the ringside, and then
Speaker 3: Rollin said there's nothing in his way or Punk's way.
Speaker 3: Rollins said no one was holding him back or them back,
Speaker 3: and the only thing between them was air and hatred,
Speaker 3: and Rollins said he had a feeling in his gut
Speaker 3: that this would be the right of the night he
Speaker 3: knocks Punks on his ass. Punk then said that he
Speaker 3: talks too much and he doesn't listen. Punk recalled saying
Speaker 3: he put the personal things aside and said that Rollins
Speaker 3: was championed six months ago and now he had something
Speaker 3: he wanted at that time, but now he has nothing
Speaker 3: that he wants. And Punk said he knows where he's going.
Speaker 3: I know it's in my future, kid, you ain't it
Speaker 3: and Punks stepped closer to Rollins while saying that Rollins
Speaker 3: thought about him for six months, but he doesn't think
Speaker 3: about Rollins at all. Punk said he has things to
Speaker 3: do in the business and told Rollins to stay out
Speaker 3: of his and then he said that Punk talks too much,
Speaker 3: that Rollins that is, and he doesn't listen enough. He
Speaker 3: said this is my business? And then Rollins shoved Punk
Speaker 3: to the mat. Punk got up and a bit of
Speaker 3: a fighting stance there, and Jay was so and Sammy
Speaker 3: Zain played security guard here and pulled Punk and Rollins apart,
Speaker 3: and of course Adam Pierce blew his top because he's
Speaker 3: paid to do that on a weekly basis. And we
Speaker 3: had Rollins get on the mic and asked Punk if
Speaker 3: he's his business now, and Rollins threw some kicks a
Speaker 3: Punk through the ropes and Zain said that he gets
Speaker 3: that Rollins is angry, but he doesn't get to talk
Speaker 3: to Jay that way, and Rollin said Zaane was right,
Speaker 3: and that's it ended up causing tension between Sammy and
Speaker 3: Seth that led to our event. So we'll talk about
Speaker 3: that in just a little bit. Quite an interesting effective
Speaker 3: segment here, effective segment, and this really pushed things forward
Speaker 3: in a big way. You know, we got to Punk
Speaker 3: Rollins finally, but did we It is December, after all,
Speaker 3: WrestleMania is what however, four or five months away, four months,
Speaker 3: four months, four months in change away, so it could
Speaker 3: be time to start teasing it. But if the WrestleMania
Speaker 3: plan are those two.
Speaker 4: Hooking it up? Locking it up.
Speaker 3: Then it may be still too early, so this may
Speaker 3: be a dress rehearsal for what the real program is
Speaker 3: going to be after the Rumble or maybe even after
Speaker 3: Chamber when they go full blast into Seth and Punk.
Speaker 3: My point is, you can't do Seth Punks starting now
Speaker 3: if the plan is to have them also compete at
Speaker 3: WrestleMania too early, so I think they're just maybe setting
Speaker 3: the table. Rollins once again is going to get distracted
Speaker 3: or Punk's gonna get distracted once again, That's my guess,
Speaker 3: So we'll see how that works out. Unless they have
Speaker 3: separate plans for both Rolins and Punk at WrestleMania, they
Speaker 3: may not be actually aiming for that, and they're getting
Speaker 3: this match out of the way now for Saturday Night's
Speaker 3: main event, or maybe at the Rumble itself, although I
Speaker 3: do think that that would be a waste of both
Speaker 3: men if they're going to compete in a match and
Speaker 3: not compete at the Rumble.
Speaker 4: But they can do both, I guess.
Speaker 3: All right, so we then have the first match of
Speaker 3: the night after a Balor segment in the back. We'll
Speaker 3: talk more about that, but Eoski and Kyrie saying versus
Speaker 3: Live Morgan and Richel Rodriguez was the very first match
Speaker 3: of the night. This match was five and a half
Speaker 3: minutes with live Morgan and Raquel beating EO in Kyrie
Speaker 3: Sane and it was Raquel Rodriguez getting a Tata bomb
Speaker 3: for the victory on Kyrie Sane and you know obviously
Speaker 3: won the match. After the match, though, Morgan Rodriguez attacks
Speaker 3: saying and Ria Ripley's music hit and she comes out.
Speaker 3: Morgan acted like she was gonna fight Ripley, but she fled,
Speaker 3: and then Ripley cleared the ring, uh clear Rodriguez from
Speaker 3: the ring with a clothesline and slammed her head on
Speaker 3: the broadcast table several times. And then Morgan you know,
Speaker 3: jumped on Ripley's back, which allowed Raquel to kick Ripley
Speaker 3: in the gut and then throw her into the corner
Speaker 3: of the table and try to damage her already damaged
Speaker 3: eye or orbital bone. And so Ria Ripley did the
Speaker 3: best she could sell that looked like she was okay.
Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't try to provide us with any
Speaker 3: special effects or fake blood or anything like that, so
Speaker 3: more of just the story that they're trying to tell
Speaker 3: of these vicious heels trying to go after an injury
Speaker 3: that we all know was real. So all right, we
Speaker 3: then had Yeah, besides, there was a Eosky botch that
Speaker 3: wasn't particularly fun, but it was one. So there you go,
Speaker 3: Chris Jericho, if you're listening, Yeah, there was a botch.
Speaker 3: Yo Ski had a botch. Did you hear about the
Speaker 3: word botch, Chris? If you wonder what the hell I'm doing, guys,
Speaker 3: I said this on my last show. Chris Jericho has
Speaker 3: a really big problem with fans saying botch as if
Speaker 3: apparently we're not authorized to say it without prequalified approval,
Speaker 3: you know. Anyway, So Dakota Kai then took on Kyrie saying,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry Dakota Kai versus Katana Chance versus SHANEA Basler,
Speaker 3: Yes she still worked for the company, and a women's
Speaker 3: Intercontinental title tournament match and this was seven minutes where
Speaker 3: Dakota Kai ends up beating Katana Chance and Shanna Basler
Speaker 3: in seven minutes and it wasn't the smoothest of matches.
Speaker 4: And hey, you know, what can you say? You know.
Speaker 3: This wasn't really a botchy match, if you will, It
Speaker 3: wasn't one that was you know, you know, the smoothest
Speaker 3: of matches, particularly the ending with Katana Chance hitting the
Speaker 3: four fifty on Shanna Basler that was about six inches
Speaker 3: away from her. You know, obviously she landed on her
Speaker 3: hands and knees, and you know, Shane Basler had to
Speaker 3: sell it like she had actually been splashed like that.
Speaker 3: That wasn't great, but it was. It was actually nice
Speaker 3: to see Shanna Basiler in there. And and if you
Speaker 3: were to ask me who was going to advance in this,
Speaker 3: I would have said SHANEA.
Speaker 4: Baisler.
Speaker 3: I mean, whatever happened to snap tap or nap? Remember that?
Speaker 3: Remember the Remember the elimination chamber when we had Shanna
Speaker 3: Basler just buzz saw through six women or five women,
Speaker 3: remember that Live Morgan being one of them in that match.
Speaker 3: I believe I'd have to go back and see who
Speaker 3: the participants were. Was that twenty twenty two? Maybe it
Speaker 3: was twenty twenty, No, it was you know what it was.
Speaker 3: Might have been twenty twenty because they were trying to
Speaker 3: build her up for Becky Lynch. And we have the beautiful,
Speaker 3: you know, empty arena WrestleMania in the Performance Center that
Speaker 3: we all want to forget. Ever happened. I appreciate WW
Speaker 3: for doing it, but.
Speaker 4: It's just it was a a crime of many injustices.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: Not a not a great night because this is the
Speaker 3: ambiance was just totally killed that night, and so many
Speaker 3: programs that night were unfortunately derailed because of the crowd
Speaker 3: not being there. And I felt horrible for Drew Back
Speaker 3: and Tire that night, even though he beat brock Lesner,
Speaker 3: Randy Orton and Edge with their brilliant program and build
Speaker 3: up have a backstage brawl for like forty five minutes
Speaker 3: from remember that, so like, yeah, I mean, maybe at
Speaker 3: some point I'll go back and review WrestleMania thirty six,
Speaker 3: but it's one I'm sure we all want to forget. However,
Speaker 3: way off track, I just remember a Shannon Basler that
Speaker 3: was a killer. I remember shanea Basler that would actually
Speaker 3: try to break people's arms. She broke night and again
Speaker 3: this is of course in story, although she did. I
Speaker 3: don't know if well, Ahally, I don't know if Shane
Speaker 3: Bazler actually had any actual issues injuring women. But Shanna Basler,
Speaker 3: she went on a tear at one point of just
Speaker 3: snapping people's limbs, and it was so much fun to watch.
Speaker 3: That's who Shana Basler is a killer or was so
Speaker 3: I would have picked her in this.
Speaker 4: Match, but I was dead wrong.
Speaker 3: Alrighty, so let's see here the January sixth RAW debut
Speaker 3: on Netflix, got a video package. Don't forget John Cena
Speaker 3: will be on that raw. It's going to be a
Speaker 3: massive raw. I don't think it's just John Cena. You
Speaker 3: very well and likely will see the rock Hell stone.
Speaker 4: Cold maybe there.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's gonna be a star studded raw. They're
Speaker 3: going to try to make it and rightfully so a
Speaker 3: massive raw.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: For the debut on Netflix. This is a massive transition,
Speaker 3: the first time they've gone off cable TV into a
Speaker 3: streaming service exclusively. No deal with Fox with a raw anyway,
Speaker 3: no deal with the USA, just Netflix. So that's a
Speaker 3: big deal. And the first show after the holidays, after
Speaker 3: New Year's is always a big show. It's like things
Speaker 3: get a get supercharged because you're past the holidays and
Speaker 3: past all the tapings and the double show tapings, and
Speaker 3: you're ready to just get into WrestleMania season. The rumbles
Speaker 3: right around the corner, you know you're ready to just go.
Speaker 3: So this is gonna be a massive show, alrighty soh.
Speaker 3: Then we had the New Day celebration, which we already
Speaker 3: went over, and then we have a carrying Cross video
Speaker 3: promo being aired, and he said he's done some terrible
Speaker 3: things to people and he's actually then he's actually proud
Speaker 3: of He said he has a tolerance when people do
Speaker 3: things back to him. But he took issue with that
Speaker 3: quote creature that was being sent to go after his wife.
Speaker 3: Cross said he wants the Wyat six in the arena
Speaker 3: next week, and he said they started the fire and
Speaker 3: now he will make sure they burn in it.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 3: Short to the point, all right. World heavyweight Champion Gunther
Speaker 3: took on Dominic Mysterio in a non title match, and
Speaker 3: this match ended up going pretty short for a gun
Speaker 3: through match six minutes and forty five seconds with Gunther
Speaker 3: defeating Dominic. But here's the finish. Guntherer put dominant sleeper.
Speaker 3: They moved to the corner, the referee was trapped with
Speaker 3: his back turned. Dom threw a low blow that the
Speaker 3: ref didn't see to break the hold. Dom hit a
Speaker 3: six to one nine and followed up with a frog
Speaker 3: splash for the near fall. Again, you have a low
Speaker 3: blow and yes, I know it's Dominic, Okay, not the
Speaker 3: strongest guy in the world, but it's still a finish
Speaker 3: in pro wrestling. You need to respect it. And again,
Speaker 3: even after a low blow was applied, which is a
Speaker 3: finish in and of itself or used to be, you
Speaker 3: have an actual finish being applied and he still kicks out.
Speaker 3: I just take issue with it. It takes the drama
Speaker 3: out of finishes being hit. I'm not saying finishes should
Speaker 3: never be kicked out of, but when you expect them to.
Speaker 3: The expectation is that that finishes are kicked out of
Speaker 3: like everyone's are kicked out of. You got a problem,
Speaker 3: all right. So we then had a Gunther blast Doom
Speaker 3: with a chop hit a power bomb for the victory.
Speaker 3: So Dom doesn't kick out of that, but uh, Gunther
Speaker 3: should have won that, and he did. After the match, though,
Speaker 3: Finn Balor attacks Gunther and ended up hitting him with
Speaker 3: the Coudigra, and Balor approached Dom and said watch and learn, kid.
Speaker 3: He hit two more coudigras and then picked up the
Speaker 3: title and dropped it on Gunther A one more time.
Speaker 3: Champ broke out and Baler smiled at Dom and left
Speaker 3: the ring. As Baler walked to the back, he said,
Speaker 3: that's how you do it, and Dom needs to watch
Speaker 3: and learn. So it looks like if I was to
Speaker 3: venture a guest, that's not exactly earth shattering or intelligent,
Speaker 3: but logical. We're gonna have a triple threat for the
Speaker 3: World Heavyweight Championship at the Saturday Night main event in
Speaker 3: a couple weeks with Gunther Priest in Baler. Even though
Speaker 3: on I want Balor and Priest to have their one
Speaker 3: on one like I need that, I don't think we're
Speaker 3: gonna get it given that now we have a attack
Speaker 3: by Balor on Gunther, which to be fair, Gunther did
Speaker 3: attack Balor the night before or two nights before after
Speaker 3: he interfered to screw Priest, So it's kind of this
Speaker 3: web of tangled you know, of tangled feuds going on
Speaker 3: that just it does warrant a triple threat, and I
Speaker 3: think we'll get one. Yeah, we don't get enough of them.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: We then have Pete Dunn get interviewed about his match
Speaker 3: against Our Truth, and Kelly wondered if Truth thought he
Speaker 3: was facing Butch, but Dunn stopped her from saying Butch
Speaker 3: and Don looked into the camera and stressed, his name
Speaker 3: is Pete Dunn. All right, Pete Don versus Our Truth.
Speaker 3: Our Truth beats Pete Dunn in a minute, in fifty seconds.
Speaker 3: The finish of this was done, being dot was not
Speaker 3: really finished. The whole match is the finish because Done
Speaker 3: was dominant from the start. But we then had Done
Speaker 3: looking into the crowd and got some of the desired
Speaker 3: butch chants because that's I guess what he was going for.
Speaker 3: Our Truth then took advantage of the distraction and rolled
Speaker 3: up Done for the three count.
Speaker 4: That's that.
Speaker 3: So Our Truth getting consistent TV time is always a positive.
Speaker 3: It's nice to see our Truth out there. Ron Killing
Speaker 3: seems like a genuinely good dude. He really does all right.
Speaker 3: Intercontinental Champion Bron Breaker was then interviewed. He said Seamus
Speaker 3: cracked the rib during the triple Threat match at Survivor Series.
Speaker 3: Ludwig Kaiser showed up and asked Breaker if he was
Speaker 3: happy with himself for stealing his pen. Kaiser said he
Speaker 3: didn't matter because he accomplished what he needed to and
Speaker 3: he said Seamus broke his rib and he returned the favor.
Speaker 3: Kaiser said, there's nothing stopping him from taking the Intercontinental
Speaker 3: title and bringing it back to Imperium where it belongs.
Speaker 3: Breakers asked if that was a challenge. He said he
Speaker 3: knew Kaiser would say that that wasn't that he wasn't
Speaker 3: beaten in the triple threat. Breaker said Kaiser will never
Speaker 3: hold the title, but he gave him his props for
Speaker 3: the match at Survivor Series and said Kaiser should look
Speaker 3: to get out of Gunther's shadow quickly because Unther's stock
Speaker 3: is plummeting, which is true. I mean, I thought we
Speaker 3: were already distancing Gunther and Kaiser. I thought they kind
Speaker 3: of went their separate ways. So I don't know what
Speaker 3: we're talking about Imperium, for I thought it was just
Speaker 3: kind of quietly disbanded.
Speaker 4: But all right, all right. We then have a a.
Speaker 3: Few announcements here for next week's raw, by the way,
Speaker 3: and it's Racer Rodriguez versus Rie Ripley, Lyra Valkyrie versus
Speaker 3: Alena Vega versus Ivy Isle. So it's triple threat Lyra
Speaker 3: Zelena Ivy in a Women's Icy Title tournament match carrying
Speaker 3: cross Akam Rizar and them Is versus Uncle Howdie, Eric
Speaker 3: Row and Dexter Loomis and Joe Gacy in an eight
Speaker 3: man tag team match. It should be a fun week
Speaker 3: next week, all right. Then it was time for Seth
Speaker 3: Rollins versus Sammy's Ay and again, good match, two guys
Speaker 3: that are just that are already Hall of famers. Seth
Speaker 3: Rollins did beat Sammy's Ain in nine minutes and twenty seconds,
Speaker 3: but that's not really the story here. The story isn't
Speaker 3: Seth suddenly having a program with Rolin with with Sammy's Ain.
Speaker 3: Because here's the finish. Zaye grabs a chair, gets in
Speaker 3: the ring. Rollins asked Zaye what he was doing. Zayne
Speaker 3: accused Rollins of attacking Jay because we don't know who did,
Speaker 3: and then Rollins said he wouldn't do that and asked
Speaker 3: Zayne if he questioned sam Punk. Zaye tossed the chair
Speaker 3: to the ring side, and Rollins called Zane in an
Speaker 3: inside cradle and got the three count. Yes, the dreaded
Speaker 3: inside cradle roll up if you will strikes again. So
Speaker 3: it's fine, Seth Rollins wins nine minutes and twenty seconds.
Speaker 3: But here's what the biggest takeaway from this match is,
Speaker 3: And we had Rollins tells Zane after the match that
Speaker 3: he loves his heart, but he has to start using
Speaker 3: his head. Rollins left ring played to the crowd on
Speaker 3: the stage, Zayne turned around and hit was hit with
Speaker 3: a Claymore who was none other than, of course, Drew mcattyre,
Speaker 3: who was wearing a hoodie pulled up over his head
Speaker 3: and he just looked down at Zayne to close the show.
Speaker 3: So Zaye was attacking accusing Rowlins of attacking Jay. But
Speaker 3: I think we all know that at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, it's not only Drew McIntyre attacking Sammy and
Speaker 3: that where that program leads. But it's clearly Drew McIntyre
Speaker 3: who attacked Jay. So who done it pretty quickly solved,
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense for Seth to do it, and I
Speaker 3: think I think we're there now. So that was wwe
Speaker 3: wrong last night.
Speaker 4: Guys. I hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: Certainly a noteworthy show and like I said, it felt
Speaker 3: more impactful in noteworthy than the actual Big Four one
Speaker 3: of the Big four pls that took place the night before.
Speaker 3: Pretty wild, Pretty wild, and before you know it, we'll
Speaker 3: be talking yes Saturday night main event. More importantly, Royal
Speaker 3: Rumble that's not too far away, although it is in February,
Speaker 3: so don't forget about that. I mean that maybe the
Speaker 3: first time ever sometime I'm watching anyway, that we've had
Speaker 3: the Royal Rumble in February.
Speaker 4: But just so you know, the.
Speaker 3: Elimination Chamber. Okay, so we have Wow, this is wild.
Speaker 3: So we've got the Rumble on February first, We've got
Speaker 3: the Chamber on March first. This is just a travesty.
Speaker 3: Then we got WrestleMania the latest I've ever seen it too,
Speaker 3: at WrestleMania forty one, of course, from Vegas April nineteenth
Speaker 3: to April twentieth. Quite an interesting, just interesting setup of
Speaker 3: dates for all of these shows. Now, if you are
Speaker 3: looking to look for the next pl E again, guys,
Speaker 3: Saturday Night's main event from Uniondale, New York. It's a
Speaker 3: the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum. It's December fourteenth, two weeks
Speaker 3: less than after that. There's no pl I'm looking. I
Speaker 3: don't see them. I don't see another pl E. That
Speaker 3: means if there's no additional pl and I don't think
Speaker 3: there is because the holidays and everything. We will go
Speaker 3: from Survivors Series November thirtieth to February first, between pl
Speaker 3: e's Saturday Night's main event. It's your intrim Okay, it's
Speaker 3: like your c pl E. You have your a pl
Speaker 3: e's which are Summer Slam, WrestleMania, Rumbland Survivors Series, and
Speaker 3: then you have your b pay per views, which are
Speaker 3: your Crown Jewels and your Elimination Chambers and your no
Speaker 3: Mercies and Bad Bloods. But then there's like a cpl
Speaker 3: E because it's it's a very short turnaround from the
Speaker 3: previous pl which I think hurts it a little bit,
Speaker 3: and it's not exactly an event that people are like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, I can't wait for. It just doesn't
Speaker 3: have that behind it. So Saturday's main event low bar,
Speaker 3: which does lead you to really overachieve. With a low bar,
Speaker 3: you're you're bound to overachieve it.
Speaker 4: So there is that.
Speaker 3: But anyway, we're gonna go from November thirtieth to February
Speaker 3: first between real pls with this kind of introm stop
Speaker 3: here the stop gap of Saturday Night Main Event December fourteenth.
Speaker 3: But yeah, so here we are, guys, We're we're getting closer,
Speaker 3: just starting to really close in on WrestleMania season it's
Speaker 3: about to begin, so thank.
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