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<v Speaker 1>Check you in off for what's developing.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it just developing out of the Middle East now?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, it's developing.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty five KRC the Talk station to Shuy seven six

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<v Speaker 1>here fifty five KR City Talk Station, looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>this segment all morning. Always enjoy hearing from our favorite

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Blackwell. He really needs no introduction from my listening audience.

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<v Speaker 1>By by way of background, former mayor of the City

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati, Ohio State Treasurer and Hio Secretary of State.

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<v Speaker 1>He's an activist, he's an author, and he's with the

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<v Speaker 1>American First Policy Institute as the chair of the Center

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<v Speaker 1>for Election Integrity. He is Ken Blackwell. Ken, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for green to spend some time with my

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<v Speaker 1>listeners and me this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Brian, it's always good to be with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Always a pleasure having you on and right out of

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<v Speaker 1>the gate. Of course, you know what happened on early

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday morning here in the city of Cincinnati, the beatdown

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<v Speaker 1>experienced by two people. We don't know what led to

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<v Speaker 1>the beatdown, but no one can justify it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to be that many people are trying to

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<v Speaker 1>justify it, although some are how it could be justified.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. No one is deserving of that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of treatment, most notably the woman who got punched

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<v Speaker 1>Kolcock right in the face by some guy. Your response,

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<v Speaker 1>your reaction, and I know you've digested mayor aftab provols

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<v Speaker 1>very late in the game, reaction to the incident. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your take on this, Ken Blackwell, what my take is.

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<v Speaker 2>At the first obligation of local governments is to provide

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<v Speaker 2>safe neighborhoods and safe streets. And it doesn't take a

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<v Speaker 2>rocket scientist to know that Cincinnati is experiencing a rise

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<v Speaker 2>in street crime. Now there are those who would say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not valent crime. But one of the things that you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you've been around on the basis a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, is that if you reward or ignore bad behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>or you're going to get this more bad behavior and

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<v Speaker 2>the escalation. So the first thing is that we we

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<v Speaker 2>have to admit that we have a problem in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of the situation itself. You know, no matter how you explain,

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<v Speaker 2>if it started out as a fight between two people,

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<v Speaker 2>that to fight between two people, but you know, unless

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to us not to believe our lion eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>what we what we saw is that what might have

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<v Speaker 2>started us a fight between two people escalated into a

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<v Speaker 2>mob action, a beatdown which can never be which can

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<v Speaker 2>never be justified. And the and the and the reality

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<v Speaker 2>is is that if you start to excuse this, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it means that you ignore the fact that Cincinnati has

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. And the first I mean local leaders should inspire, hope,

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<v Speaker 2>create the opportunity, and bring people together. And there's been

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<v Speaker 2>a failure in bringing people together in terms of respecting

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<v Speaker 2>each other's human human dignity. We have a challenge, and

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<v Speaker 2>if we try to downsize it in terms of how

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<v Speaker 2>we define it and misdefine it, the problem is just

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<v Speaker 2>going to get worse. As I've told you on a

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<v Speaker 2>number of casions, Brian, great cities are not the products

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<v Speaker 2>of great governments, but rather the products of good people

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<v Speaker 2>doing great things together. And that's a challenge in Cincinnati right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now well, and it seems to be driven at least

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<v Speaker 1>over the last i'd say maybe ten years or so,

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<v Speaker 1>the politics of division. Everyone. You're divided, you're divided. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not in this group, you're not part of my group.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate you.

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<v Speaker 1>You you must agree with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that it's it's as if there is this

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<v Speaker 1>concerted effort and I'm going to point to the left

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<v Speaker 1>hand side of the ledger for stirring the pot of division.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter on what subject matter. LGBTQ plus division. Division,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Donald Trump, evil Orange Man division, division, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just division. And then of course there's this racial elements

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<v Speaker 1>that stirred in there. Police are inherently racist. Division. You

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<v Speaker 1>like the police, then you're a racist. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the mantra we've been hearing now for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken. It's it's it's it's a real problem, and it

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<v Speaker 2>starts to reveal itself in numbers. I mean, there is

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<v Speaker 2>a decline in our recruits of folks to serve as

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<v Speaker 2>officers of the piece of of of police officers on

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<v Speaker 2>on our on our street. Uh. There is a real

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<v Speaker 2>declinient in the morale of those who are on board. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>How how many times can you here, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>kill the pigs, you know, defund the police. Uh and

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<v Speaker 2>uh and time after time you you watch a judicial

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<v Speaker 2>system that is divided. Half of the judges, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>use our apprehensions of criminals and our criminal justice system

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<v Speaker 2>as a revolving door. Uh. Mechanism and and and so

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<v Speaker 2>folks are arrested and put right back on a street,

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<v Speaker 2>cause problems, human misery. Uh and you and you only

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<v Speaker 2>have half of our judges that understand that it is

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<v Speaker 2>in the in keeping with their responsibility to provide safe

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<v Speaker 2>streets and safe neighborhoods.

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<v Speaker 1>And that seems to be where the biggest breakdown is

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<v Speaker 1>and that results, you know, going back to law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 1>If the police on the streets are the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pick up the bad guys, whether they witness

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<v Speaker 1>the crime or not. They're there to find the suspects.

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<v Speaker 1>They present them to the prosecutor's office. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a zealous prosecutor, that only goes so far. If

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<v Speaker 1>they end up in front of a liberal judge, they're

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<v Speaker 1>out on no bond. And then of course if they

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<v Speaker 1>get sentenced because they're convicted or and are a plea deal,

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<v Speaker 1>they're let out on the streets with little or no

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<v Speaker 1>penalty to pay. There's the bottom line. It's the judicial system.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and and it has a compounding effect. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've worked with some of the nation's leading economic thinkers,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the simple things that you understand as

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<v Speaker 2>a local leader that's concerned with the economic prosperity uh

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<v Speaker 2>and the safety of your community. Is that capital seeks

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<v Speaker 2>the path of lease, resistance and greatest opportunity, and capital

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<v Speaker 2>hates crime, yes, uh And so so what what happens

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<v Speaker 2>is that when you have a lots of days ago

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<v Speaker 2>left leaning, stupid approach to crime fighting and the creation

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<v Speaker 2>of safe communities, there's no way that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get the uh investment of capital uh to expand your economy,

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<v Speaker 2>create jobs, put your people uh to work uh And

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<v Speaker 2>and as a consequence, you just see things, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>getting worse and worse, and populations. You know, when you

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<v Speaker 2>when you are at a time when you want to

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<v Speaker 2>just arrest the client and and and uh outward flow

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<v Speaker 2>of population uh, you find yourself being uh stuck with

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<v Speaker 2>that that that's sort of that sort of decline and

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know, that's what's so distressing about people who

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<v Speaker 2>want to put on blinders uh and and and not

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<v Speaker 2>tell people the challenge that we face when we see

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<v Speaker 2>this sort of the vision uh and destructive uh, destructive

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<v Speaker 2>attitudes in play. You know, bring inspire hope, create opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>bring people together and understand the first responsibility of local

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<v Speaker 2>government is to make sure that the people are safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Amen, Ken Blackwell, you know, and I've been struggling to

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<v Speaker 1>understand why it is the city leaders. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that Christopher smithm brings up regularly when he comes

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<v Speaker 1>on my program, which is the deafening silence from the

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<v Speaker 1>council members as well as the mayor about supporting outlaud

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<v Speaker 1>out and advocating working with the police, not against them.

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<v Speaker 1>That flies in the face of the whole police are terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>defund the police movement. So that's a very far left attitude.

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<v Speaker 1>But they don't say anything. And I think one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons is because they're trying to downplay the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of crime in downtown Cincinnati for the reasons you point out.

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<v Speaker 1>If you talk about crime, then people are going to

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<v Speaker 1>get the perception of there's crime, and people are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to want to move into or otherwise invest in

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Cincinnati. But that just ignores the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that the crime is there.

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<v Speaker 3>So stands Yeah, and and and you you try to

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<v Speaker 3>spin when when people can see the sort of division

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<v Speaker 3>is sort of mob action that we experienced this past weekend. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that that just creates a frustration of people who have

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<v Speaker 3>a capability a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, sir, movie moving or not considering. I mean we've

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<v Speaker 1>made national actually, we a global head lines with this.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I saw there's an article on there's violence

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<v Speaker 1>in the Hindu Times of all places, so Fox News headlines,

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<v Speaker 1>it's on CNN. Everybody's talking about it. You know, Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Well Ken Blackwell that there's maybe a business or some

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<v Speaker 1>person out there that might have been considering Cincinnati as

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<v Speaker 1>an option for investment or to move and they looked

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<v Speaker 1>at that and it's like, no, I'm taking them off

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and right, I'm seventy seven years old. I've lived

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<v Speaker 2>in Cincinnati all of my life. I've just I've been

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<v Speaker 2>a homeowner, a political leader, you know, you name it.

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<v Speaker 2>But I realize that people vote with their feet. We

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<v Speaker 2>are highly mobile. And what happens is that your city

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<v Speaker 2>becomes poor and poor, smaller and smaller, you know, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's the challenge of local leadership. And they cannot forget

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<v Speaker 2>the capital seeks the path of least existence and greatest opportunity,

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<v Speaker 2>and capital hates crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's pause. Bring Ken Ken Blackwell back. Got some

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<v Speaker 1>of the topics to go over with Ken. It's seven

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<v Speaker 1>K see the talk station seven twenty here fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>K see the talk station Brian Thomas with the incomparable

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Blackwell commenting on some of the issues, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>went over the violence downtown. You mentioned capital seeking, the

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<v Speaker 1>path of lease resistance. Ken, I couldn't agree with you

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<v Speaker 1>more on that, and someone who knows all about that.

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<v Speaker 1>A wildly successful entrepreneur and the next governor of the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Ohio. I understand you were as much of

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<v Speaker 1>a fan, perhaps as I am, of V. V Ramaswami,

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<v Speaker 1>according to polling and everything else I can see. I've

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<v Speaker 1>talked to him many times. I've been impressed with him

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<v Speaker 1>since I interviewed him after he wrote Woke Incorporated. A

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<v Speaker 1>brilliant man he is. I think he's going to make

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<v Speaker 1>an outstanding governor. He seems to have great ideas. Your

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<v Speaker 1>comments on VV.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you I've watched since he was a

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<v Speaker 2>high schooler at the same Xavier uh only regretted that

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<v Speaker 2>we couldn't get him over to Xavier University. Uh. Yeah, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he will make a great governor. And his his his

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<v Speaker 2>not only his worldview, but his understanding of the basics

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<v Speaker 2>is is phenomenal. You know, he and I have talked

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<v Speaker 2>on occasion in the past, Uh a basic understanding about

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<v Speaker 2>the economic situation uh in Ohio. He he understands, as

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<v Speaker 2>I've preached for a long time, that if you tax something,

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<v Speaker 2>you get less of it. If you, you know, subsidize something,

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<v Speaker 2>you get more of it. The problem in America and

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<v Speaker 2>and and the challenge in Ohio today is that we're

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<v Speaker 2>taxing work, savings investment. Uh and and as a consequence, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>he understands the challenge. And I think he has a

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<v Speaker 2>set of proposals that we will unleash, uh the talent

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<v Speaker 2>in Ohio get us back on a on a path

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<v Speaker 2>of rapid growth. And I've been up on his response,

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<v Speaker 2>uh and his comments on the sort of division and

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of the crime that he saw on the

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<v Speaker 2>streets of Cincinnati, and Uh, I think he's he's well

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<v Speaker 2>positioned as a fundamental understanding of how to put us

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<v Speaker 2>on a accelerate track of economic growth, prosperity, safety. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>and and and he has a vision, uh to to

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<v Speaker 2>to make Ohio not just one of the best states

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States, but the premier state. Uh and

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<v Speaker 2>and I tell our buddy down in Florida, watch out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that is coming. That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I'm really excited about. As a

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<v Speaker 1>magnet for business and industry from the four corners of

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<v Speaker 1>the world. We can make Ohio the leading power generator

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<v Speaker 1>by greasing the skids and moving forward with the concept

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been pushing for now for years, embracing the

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<v Speaker 1>small modular nuclear reactors. They're small, tiny footprint, don't generate

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<v Speaker 1>the ways they can make create massive amounts of power.

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<v Speaker 1>If you build it, they will come. And he is

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<v Speaker 1>all about.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Oh he really is. And one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>I just I shad again. He has to he has

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<v Speaker 2>to inspire hope uh and and and and he's and

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<v Speaker 2>he's good at that. You know. He has to make

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<v Speaker 2>people feel that no one is too small of an

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<v Speaker 2>entity to be part not to be part of of

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<v Speaker 2>this Ohio uh boom yeah and and and so I

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<v Speaker 2>tell people you know who might think, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>too small or they can't have impact because they are

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<v Speaker 2>individual I tell them all the time, Brian. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you think you're too small to be effective, you've

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<v Speaker 2>never been in the dark and dark room with a mosquito.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. Yeah, that that sort of inspiration I think

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<v Speaker 2>is important. But again, it starts with having a vision

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<v Speaker 2>of Ohio being not one of.

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<v Speaker 1>The best, but the best, the best, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he is. He is aspiring to bring about from the

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<v Speaker 1>state of Ohio. And you know, you can't say enough

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<v Speaker 1>about that man, at least as far as you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't hear VV speak and not be enthused. He

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those people that makes you feel uplifted,

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<v Speaker 1>like you do have a possible future, like there is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be something better down the road, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's the man to deliver on it. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>going to encourage my listeners to follow you on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>Ken Blackwell. You make some outstanding comments, You do some

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<v Speaker 1>terrific posts, stay on top of the issues, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I could talk with you for the next three hours,

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<v Speaker 1>but sadly, sadly, we're out of time. Can you know

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<v Speaker 1>you are always welcome on my program. I appreciate what

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<v Speaker 1>you do each and every day and God bless you.

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<v Speaker 2>Sir, right back gets you gotta bless you.

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<v Speaker 1>Buy take care Ken Blackwell seven twenty five. Coming up

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<v Speaker 1>next to man, I think you're all gonna love Andre Ewing,

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<v Speaker 1>another man you should be following on Facebook. Outspoken former

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<v Speaker 1>retired police officer. He'll give you a word or two

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