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As always, there's gonna be all matter of weeping and

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waving and nationing your teeth. The bou basketball team has cursed.

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Many have told me there are so many injuries. This

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has never happened. It's unprecedented. How many season ending injuries

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are there now? For Quatro this is insane, as insane

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in the membrane as the nineties U What was that?

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Maybe that should be Cypress Hill insane in the membrane.

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Maybe that should be our band of the day. What's

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going on in uh in that BYU basketball program is

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literally insane. We're gonna get into it. What it means

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for the Cougar's quest for an NCAA tournament run and

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how many games can they win without Richie Sanders as

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part of the break three, the triple combination. Now it's

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just a two man show, it seems. Who can step up?

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Who will step up? We've been asking that question all

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season long. Will it be Tyler Maruss, Will it be

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Alexi Kostick, Will it be Conard Davis Junior? Will be

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somebody else that they're gonna have to. We're gonna figure

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it out real quick. The refining Fire is alive and

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manahatas and commentary. The One, the Only Ronald, the three

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Speaker 4: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Happy?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: Three day weekend to you guys, it was crazy.

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Speaker 7: But Ben, I'm gonna be honest with you. I have

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never in my life, and I told this to Brett

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on Sunday, said, I feel like this is the Golden

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State Warriors. When Kevin Durant tore the Achilles and Klay

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Thompson like towards acl that team had aspirations of a

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three pet and that, granted it's different, but it felt

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like that just watching it, a man, any can anybody

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else get injured? And it just it continued to happen,

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and man, I just I feel bad because the heart

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of this team, Richie Saunders, watching that and been normally

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in the business when things are tight, lip it's not good.

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And I knew it wasn't good because he never returned

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back in here anything. I know he walked off under

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his own power, But Richie Saunders is the player. If

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he had his arm cut off, or if he was

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bleeding profusely, he wouldn't complain. So I know he clapped

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and gave a thumbs up, But I still was worried

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throughout the whole thing. And then sure enough Sunday morning,

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Speaker 3: Been question of the day. How does the Richie Saunders

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injury in particular impact your outlook on this Beatou basketball team?

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NCAA tournament team without Richie? SOI I think they are,

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but I'm gonna put that out there as a poll.

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without Richie Saunders, yes or no? Why or why not?

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Also without Richie Saunders? How far can this team go?

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In the inception at the launch of this season, there

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was much talk about a Final four run. That has

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been derailed, completely demolish. It has been judo chopped in

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the throat and it will be steinmied. There's no way,

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no how right that this team can go to a

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Final four. It would take a miracle. It would take

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a miracle for this team to find its way with

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two weeks remaining until we get into March, to make

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a Final four run. Now, there's talent, there's plenty of

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talent in the in the in the room, I think,

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but these guys gotta get hot, they gotta get in fuego,

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and I'm not optimistic that that can happen. Now. Most

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of us you felt that quota was at least a

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sweet sixteen run, and they felt that if you got

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to an Elite eight, that was glorious. That's the peak

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of BYU basketball. Them that's as far as we've ever gone. Yeah,

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to go back to the Age era, to get to

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an Elite eight, it's been four score and seven years ago.

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I know it's not been you know, it's been you know,

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it's been a minute. Okay, it's been a long time

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since we've been to an Elite eight. So we've been

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to a couple of Sweet sixteens. One was with Jim Ermania.

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It was glorious, it was tremendous. And then most recently

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led by Yegor Demon and the Top King and a

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slew of great, tenured, experienced, battle tested okay basketball players

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that were BYU threw and through the trevenels, the Dallon

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halls right, the foose trail rays, the tray steward words

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right that embodied who BYU was. They were a fail

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safe as Jegor was developing throughout the season and became

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a really really good basketball player in March, we're gonna

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delve into it. Many BYU fans have texted me, they

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DM me and said, ben BYU basketball is cursed. That's

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what they've said. BYU basketball has a curse that we

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need to figure out. How we got to get the

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monkey off our back. We got to figure out what

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this curse stems from. Because BYU has gone to more

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NCAA tournaments than any other school in college basketball history

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without a final four run and you thought, maybe hopefully

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fingers crossed, that this would be their year. It doesn't

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look that way, Bob, It does not look that way.

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Let's bring in hammertime show. We got bread always bringing

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the hammer, Bred hammer. How are you, sir good?

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Speaker 8: I said I would do this last week as we

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were discussing Parker Kingston. When we have to talk about

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something sad, I want to bring something positive. My something

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positive came from I was hanging out at the Jersey

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Retirement there on Saturday and following Jim Or around and

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tracking that guy down in a sea of people was

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a whole job ended of itself, but as part of

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that gig, I bumped into a couple apostles for the

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Church of Jesus.

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Speaker 3: Christ of the Lattery Saints.

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Speaker 8: And I want to tell you something about some of

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these gentlemen that you may not know because I didn't

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know this, but I've taken some heat in my life.

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I've always been a sneaker with suits guy, Always have been.

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And I felt vindicated a couple of years ago when

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they made it a business appropriate to wear sneakers with

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your suits at the White House and said cool, got it.

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Speaker 3: How don't even feel bad about this anymore.

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Speaker 8: I officially no longer feel bad, and no one can

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anyone at church whoever says, hey, it might more look

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more like your priestt if you could wear dress shoes. Yeah,

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well guess what I saw David A. Bednar rocking some

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Nikes B dunks with a suit at the basketball game.

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I saw Elder ras Man rocking some sneakers with his

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suit as well. So look, I'm not saying they wear

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sneakers in the temple.

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Speaker 3: I'm not.

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Speaker 8: I don't know what they wear at church, but I'm

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just saying Elder Bednar was looking super fly wearing Nike

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SB dunks with his suit at the jim Or retirement.

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I am happy to report the boots on the ground

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journalism that I know everyone was concerned about.

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Speaker 3: I got it for you. Yeah, And uh, you know,

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I've I've taken heat over the years for wearing all

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manner of different shoes to church. I love the shoes

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that you wear to church, but I love it. Yeah,

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and uh it's to me, it's it's less. It's less.

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This is and this is one hundred percent accurate, and

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and you can fight against me, but I think I

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feel Ronnie's been around me enough to know my approach

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in life is always function over fashion. But if I

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can have fashion and function, they can go all day

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every day. So like when I'm wearing you see me

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every day, I wear a Nike one duck Boots. Duck Boots.

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It's the most versatile, comfortable shoe ever created in my

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It's wider, it's got really cushion and a lot of

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good cushion. It's it's it's like orthodically aligned with my body.

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additional ankle support. It's got a soft cleat just in

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case I want to, you know, run around on the

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grass or if I want to golf in it. And

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it's waterproof, especially during the winter Wonderland season. Like this

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keeps my feet feats. He's nice and toasty. But look,

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I can rock him in a suit and I feel

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perfectly competent. And my knees, my ankles, my hips, my back,

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they feel a whole lot better in my in these shoes.

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So I think what you're seeing too is these men

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are like, man, I want to be comfortable too, and

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I've been you know, the the the the shoe game,

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the dress shoe game. Remember in my mission, we were

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wearing Doc Martin's one of the most heavy, clunky, like

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uncomfortable shoes ever, and we wore them because they would

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last a long time, right supposedly, you know, there was

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so much, so much rubber on those bad boys. But

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if you, if you, if you didn't walk in alignment,

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like if you inverted or evert in a little bit,

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rid of them anyways, because they were they'd start to

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so eventually had to get rid of it. That like

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that's what we wore. We're just looking for something comfortable.

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I think the brethren are just like, you know what,

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I need to be comfortable because I'm getting old too.

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So you're gonna go with a tennis shoe that's actually

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comfortable for your feet, your ankles, your hips, your knees.

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You just want to be comfy and thing it's less

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Speaker 7: I wore Air Force ones that were white and I

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Speaker 3: One said to me, it's comfort man. It's all about comfort,

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comfort man, all about that comfort, function over fashion. But

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if you can get function and fashion all day, every day,

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do it. Guys, We got a great show for you.

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the social media. Shout out to my man Jeremy Lyman.

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on Earth. Love Blanding and Blue Mountain Hospital. He says, Oh, man,

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I'm not feeling too confident with our prospects for a

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March Madness run without Richie. Many many are feeling this way.

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There was all matter of weeping and wailing and national teeth.

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When you saw Richie drive down the right side of

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that lane and look to pass, not to score. He

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planted the right knee. It buckled inward what we call

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a vougus stress, and then he grasps it kind of buckled.

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He grasped at the back of his knee and there

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was a pivot shift. There was definitely this traditional. But

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about this, and I sent him video of like, hey,

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The only thing that gave me hope was that he

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grasped the back of his knee rather than the front

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of his knee. Many times with an aclchair you'll see

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them grasp at the front of the knee because the shinbone.

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fur away from the femur. I was like, maybe, at best,

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this is an MCL with a ladermaniscal tear. And if

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that was the case, maybe possibly you could rehab. You

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could brace him up, you could wear compression wear, and

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he could play in in in the Big twelve tournament

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or in the in March madness. That's not what happened.

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He's out for the count. He's done. We're gonna get

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into it here in the nitty gritty, but that check

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Colorado game as well. BYU by the skin of their teeth,

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got by the Colorado Buffs. It was. It was scary.

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Let's be on the entire game. I was kind of

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railing from the injury and and just thinking about how

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this team is so shorthanded and there are so many

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voids to fill as far as like skill set, personnel

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and productivity that needs to step up in the absence

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of Richie Saunders. Obviously, Rob Wright is he is one

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of the quickest. He's definitely from a point guard standpoint,

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there has never been a point guard. And we said

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this when he came in, but I think we're seeing

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that it come to parision. There has never been a

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point guard like HUNTI Rob right the third that has

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ever come through BYU. You know, it's never happened that

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we have never experienced a player like Rob Right the Third.

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He is a mongoose man. He is quick, he is

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lightning lightning fast, and he's physical. He is so freaking twitchy,

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and you know, and he's become a very very good

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shooto over the last years at the collegiate level. So

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an elite scorer played forty minutes, thirty nine points, twelve

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of sixteen from the field, four to four from the

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three point line, and eleven thirteen for the charity strike

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five rebounds as well, five rebounds. I mean, you're gonna

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have to play AJ and Rob Right the Third forty

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minutes per game in order to stay alive. Canard Davis

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Junior played thirty nine minutes, Kevin only played nineteen. Richie

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obviously went out in one minute of play. Boop stepped up,

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Mihailo stepped up, Tyler Moros stepped up, Abdullah Achmed stepped up.

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time that needed to step up, that I think has tremendous.

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He just needs more confidence. I like Alexi Coastick. Some

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people said he's horrible, he's trad they thought he would

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be good and he's not. I'm like, I think he

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just needs a little bit more confidence, He needs a

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little bit more reps, he needs some more minutes, and

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I think he could be something really good down the

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stretch for us, because like I mean, Tyler, yeah, he's

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been okay and he did step up in sixteen minutes

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of play. But we need both those guys, Tyler, Alexi

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and Mihilo as is we space the floor a little bit,

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But let's get into it BYU. But it's again to

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their teams. In ot beat the Colorado Buffs ninety to

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eighty six. They moved to nineteen and six on the season,

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seven to five in Big Twelve play. In Colorado falls

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fourteen and twelve on the season in four nine in

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Big Twelve play, that would have been a devastating loss

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for this Cougar basketball team. Let's get into some of

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the sound bites to get into the postgame commentary with

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k Y Kevin Young here on your Utah e SBN

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Radio network. Let's start off with NU know Rob actually,

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oh sorry, Kevin. This is Kevin Young's opening statement postgame.

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Speaker 4: Statement, Yeah, glad we got to win. Bottom line.

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Speaker 6: You know, the Big twelve is a tough league. You know,

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you see it across the landscape, not just in our league,

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but every league. You know, it's hard to win, bottom line,

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So we had a lot working against us tonight. Proud

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of our guys for stepping up, had some guys coming

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off the bench and make huge plays. I'll get this

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out of the way. I have no a bit on Richie.

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I'm waiting to hear like everybody else. So with that,

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Speaker 3: Win is a win? Is a win in the Big twelve?

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He says, not all wins are created equal in the

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Big twelve, But the same time, is their truth in

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that a win is win is a win, no doubt.

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You gotta find ways to win in the Big twelve.

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went in ot even if this is a team that

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is well below five hundred, they're sitting at two fifty

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four to nine right now. That is not a good

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winning percentage in the Big Twelve. Colorado is arguably the

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worst team in the Big twelve. Kansas State's right there,

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drum tang getting tanked or getting uh getting uh uh

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you know bid farewell for cause, by the way, that's

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it's controversial there. We'll see you if the lawyers can

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figure something out, uh before this goes to uh some

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sort of a lawsuit. But uh, these a issues a

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bad team too, But like, who's the worst team in

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the Big twelve? Do you think is it Colorado? Is

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it a issue? Is it Kansas State? You know what

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I mean? Like they're all right there, like they are

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all fighting hard to be the worst team in the

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Big twelve. It is, surprisingly though, Colorado's still above five hundred,

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and they're with their non conference schedule as well. So anyway,

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I just wanted to point that out real quick, search

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Potter and pray about it. Well, I'm gonna put that

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one to a polo as well. Utah could be in

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there as well. Utah's up there too. They're one and

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eleven in Big twelve plays. Yeah, so with Utah, Yeah,

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Utah should be in there too. I was giving them

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a little bit of grace, but they they're right there too.

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Speaker 8: Go ahead, bred No, I was just gonna say the

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thing that's crazy about the Big twelve, Like, is it

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seriously an anyone can beat anyone league. Like seriously, I

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mean we saw was it TCU the other day that

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beat Iowa State?

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Speaker 3: And then I would say it goes and beat Houston.

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Speaker 8: Like I'm not saying that Colorado or Utah are great,

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but that's a very losable game, especially for US.

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Speaker 3: Is a winners and win as a winning you gotta

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celebrati such even though these are bottom dwelling Big twelve teams. Ronnie,

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your thoughts, Uh, yeah, I still think it is. I think, look,

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this is the SEC of basketball.

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Speaker 7: You know it is because any SEC team, I mean

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Alabama and Auburn band played a close ball game. Remember

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it could have very well gone the other way, and

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Alabama obviously pulled away. But we were looking at that,

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you know Oklahoma. So yes, uh, yes, they may be

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a bad team in this league, but if you were

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to put them in a different conference, how much would

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they they win?

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Speaker 3: In the effect?

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Speaker 7: Did you put him in the ACC if you were

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to put him in the West Coast Conference? I think

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who Colorado and the West Coast Conference. I think they're

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up there as the top four team. And that's I'm

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not trying to be you know, half hyperbole. I really

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believe that Isaiah Johnson's a really good guard. Been in

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the reason I don't think Colorado's the worst team. Go

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back to last year. They beat TCU, they beat I

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can't remember. I don't know if it was Baylor. Oh no,

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it was Kansas State. They beat them in the Big Teal.

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Termin like tap Boyle runs a very good program. Been

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they have pretty much all underclassmen. They have one senior

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on this roster, and they played BYU tough. Yes, Richie

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went down and look what they were like their losses

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if you go and look at it, besides Texas Tech

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and getting embarrassed in Iowa State, they've lost by like

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single digits, Like that's what they've done. So I think

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the worst team is Kansas State. It's unfortunate Jeron ting

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I can but I think Colorado is a good It

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is a good team with the talent that they have

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and how young they are, and I think if you

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would have dropped them in another conference, I think they're

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a top four team in that conference.

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Speaker 3: No, it's an interesting debate. Big what do you got?

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Speaker 9: I was just gonna say, if you watch the game Saturday,

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they played with intensity. They those guys were playing for something.

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I don't know if it was because their coach got

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after him the game before by losing so much, But

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those guys were hustling, they were playing good defense, and

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they just look good.

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Speaker 3: Look. Yeah, I mean they took it to the chin.

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Versus Texas Tech, they lost by thirty. They did beat

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Arizona State in the game prior they got beat by twenty.

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Baylor's one of the bottom dwellers of the Big Twelve

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right now. Baylor's not a good team for their record

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in the Big Twelve. And they lost by twenty to Baylor.

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And that's why. That's why I'm like, okay, like how

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good is Colorado are? They just are they talented, but

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they're just inconsistent. They did beat TCU, they lost by

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thirty to Iowa State, they lost by nine to UCF.

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They did keep it close with Kansas, and they've been

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competitive in other games Cincinnati, and they were competitive in

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the first go round with Texas Tech. So anyway, it's

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an interesting study, no doubt. But a win is a

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win is a win. Let's get back to it. Kevin Young,

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what were the emotions when Richie went down?

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Speaker 6: You know, you never know, you don't know what happened, right,

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Obviously you don't know the severity of it and so forth,

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which tys you stepped out. I told them I've not

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heard on Richie, so just so everyone's on the same

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page yet. But yeah, I mean I think it sucked

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the life out of the gym.

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Speaker 4: I'm being honest.

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Speaker 6: You know, you never want to see an injury to

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any player, but definitely to someone who's uh, you know,

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heart and soul of our team bleed b Yu blue

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and uh, you know, just didn't like seeing it. But uh,

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you know, you gotta you gotta unfortunate. You gotta move on, right,

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You gotta find a way to come in and channel

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that emotion. Tyler did a great job of coming in

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00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,000
making a couple of shots, and then obviously Alex hit

470
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:24,759
it won.

471
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,079
Speaker 4: And hit the huge one there at the end.

472
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 6: But you know, it's a team game, and guys got

473
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,279
to come in off the bench and be ready to go,

474
00:23:30,599 --> 00:23:32,559
which we haven't done a lot of this year because

475
00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:35,559
those those quote unquote other three guys have been so good.

476
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,759
Speaker 4: But I was proud of those guys that come in

477
00:23:38,799 --> 00:23:41,079
and and ready to you know, contribute to the win.

478
00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:48,599
Speaker 3: When Richie went down like Luckily he was able to

479
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,960
walk off under his own power. But like he was

480
00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:53,799
down for a for a minute, he was down for

481
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,640
the count, the win, sing, the grabbing at the knee.

482
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,759
Richie's the type that is gonna bounce up if he can.

483
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,480
He's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna win, meal up, He's

484
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,519
gonna break, dance up. Like he's not gonna be down

485
00:24:08,599 --> 00:24:12,880
for long. You know, he'll he'll play through the bloodied

486
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,799
mess that has occurred on his head in the past,

487
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,200
right like he probably concussed, got got got bloodied and

488
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,599
stitched up, and he's willing to play through it all.

489
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,839
So when that happened, I think all of Kugarnation was

490
00:24:27,319 --> 00:24:34,480
just like, not Richie, Please, not Richie. You know, the

491
00:24:34,599 --> 00:24:39,240
guy that deserves to finish his senior year as a loyal,

492
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,400
strong and true b y U kug having turned down

493
00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:46,400
his former coach and Kentucky having turned down to the NBA.

494
00:24:46,599 --> 00:24:48,160
I mean, he could have went, he could have gone, like,

495
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,839
he could have found his way probably as a maybe

496
00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:55,160
a G League or maybe a second round NBA draft

497
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,680
pick last year. Possibly, It's just and now he's he's

498
00:24:59,759 --> 00:25:03,960
going be limited in his value going forward because you're

499
00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,240
not gonna be able to do the NBA combine, et cetera.

500
00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:09,640
The good this sets back. Like from a personal standpoint,

501
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,440
there is the all Bay fans are We're rooting on

502
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:17,000
Richie more than any other guy. They want him to

503
00:25:17,079 --> 00:25:19,480
succeed because he has bought in to Brigham, he has

504
00:25:19,559 --> 00:25:21,680
bought into the culture, he has bought in. He he

505
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,960
is b wy you threw and threw he he embodies

506
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,160
everything that you want on and off the court from

507
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,440
your BYU student athletes. So I think it it's very

508
00:25:32,519 --> 00:25:35,559
impactful internally, emotionally, psych psychologically for a lot of the

509
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,839
b YU fans see and Richie go down in particular.

510
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 8: But I wonder if it's just as psychological in the

511
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,640
opposite direction for his teammates to say, we're not like,

512
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,640
we're not going out without a fight, like.

513
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 3: I and Kevin Young.

514
00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 8: I'm so excited to get into his media availability tomorrow

515
00:25:52,599 --> 00:25:54,559
because all the things you want to hear Kevin Young

516
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,359
say like he says them in this media availability. But

517
00:25:58,319 --> 00:25:59,880
one of the things that he talks about is how

518
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:02,680
all of these guys are kind of loving the back

519
00:26:02,759 --> 00:26:05,839
against the wall mentality. Kevin Young said, sometimes That's when

520
00:26:05,839 --> 00:26:07,039
I feel like I do my best work.

521
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:07,759
Speaker 3: He said.

522
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:11,079
Speaker 8: Everyone on this team understands that the national media is

523
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,480
riding them off due to Richie's loss. Kevin Young said

524
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:16,359
he thinks that's when he does some of his best coaching.

525
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,799
He talked about how he's like, look, I coached in

526
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:21,720
the minor leagues. I had times where minutes before a game,

527
00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:23,839
I find out my best player is getting called up.

528
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 3: He's like, this is just how it goes.

529
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,759
Speaker 8: I do wonder everything you just said about how mentally

530
00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:31,079
and emotionally of.

531
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 3: A toll this is on fans.

532
00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:36,599
Speaker 8: I wonder if the players see this and for no

533
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:41,480
other practical statistical reason other than in their brains, they say,

534
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:43,359
I know we've played a certain way all season long.

535
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,160
We're not playing that way anymore because everybody else has

536
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,039
to make up for what we lost with Richie. It

537
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:53,039
takes me back to that, to that Jimmer clip when

538
00:26:53,079 --> 00:26:57,000
he's talking about how Brandon Davies went out and Jimmer

539
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,599
goes to coach rosa time he says, how many points?

540
00:26:59,599 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: How many do we need to get?

541
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,599
Speaker 8: And I think there's a lot of guys on the

542
00:27:02,599 --> 00:27:05,200
team who have that same energy, say coach how many points,

543
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,599
how many rebounds, how many assists do we need to

544
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,119
make up for for Richie so that we can shoulder

545
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,359
his load. And I'm really excited to see what kind

546
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,920
of team we see with the mentality of having their

547
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:17,839
backs against the wall.

548
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree with you. I look at I

549
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,240
do see plenty of talent. And by talent, you know

550
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:26,160
how I view talent. It's like your length, your athleticism,

551
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,839
your ability to shoot. Like you have Mihai in practice,

552
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,279
you have Alexi in practice, you have Tyler Maruss in practice.

553
00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:35,680
Those guys are just they're on point, they have good mechanics,

554
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,799
they shoot the ball well, they're good athletes. They can

555
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,559
help win ball games. There's no doubt Kenard Davis Junior

556
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,200
is a better player than what he showcased up to

557
00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:49,839
this point offensively. So they have talent, will they rise

558
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,079
to the occasion and the absence of Ritchie And maybe

559
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,960
that's all they that's what they needed. They need a

560
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,640
rally and cry, let's do it for Richie, do it

561
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,200
for the Gipper type of deal. And if that's what

562
00:27:59,319 --> 00:28:02,920
it takes to extract the potential of his team, I

563
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:05,079
hate that it had to happen this way, but maybe

564
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,119
possibly they can make doubters into believers right now because

565
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,880
the expectation is significantly lowered without Richie than it was

566
00:28:13,039 --> 00:28:15,359
with Richie. Let's get back to it. What did Colorado

567
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,880
do defensively hold Aj to six or twenty from the field.

568
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 4: I think one on one defense. The kid ranch and

569
00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:23,279
so stepped up to the challenge. You know, he's long

570
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:28,000
six eleven, long arms, good athlete. That was probably the

571
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:28,440
main point.

572
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 6: They did pretty good job to off the ball with

573
00:28:30,319 --> 00:28:32,319
helping and stuff, especially without Richie.

574
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:33,759
Speaker 4: You know, they could really load up on them.

575
00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 6: We were trying different things to put different people out

576
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,799
there to give him a little bit more space to plan.

577
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 4: But that's kind of why we put the ball a

578
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:41,079
little bit more.

579
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 6: In his hands and have Rob off the ball. Rosen

580
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,440
one of our best catching shoot guys all year, and

581
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:49,480
so you know, for me, the seven turnover is probably

582
00:28:49,519 --> 00:28:51,920
what's the most concerning thing with AJ. That we can

583
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,799
help him with the shot making. I don't worry about,

584
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,000
you know, I thought he got fouled, if I'm being honest,

585
00:28:58,079 --> 00:28:59,799
on probably three or four of those.

586
00:28:59,680 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: That they.

587
00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:04,359
Speaker 6: You know, but at his size to be able to

588
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,000
have eight assists I think says a lot about his growth,

589
00:29:08,119 --> 00:29:10,079
you know, in terms of playing a little bit more

590
00:29:10,119 --> 00:29:10,559
under control.

591
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,119
Speaker 4: So we got to clean those turnovers up.

592
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:17,759
Speaker 3: Tad Boyle was also asked a question head coach for Colorado,

593
00:29:18,039 --> 00:29:25,119
how they they engage defensively schematically versues aj Debonnson. What

594
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,079
was their their game plan for this is? Tad Boyle,

595
00:29:27,119 --> 00:29:30,400
head coach with Colorado, responded with the same question.

596
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 5: Well, the first of all, Sebastian Ranchik did a phenomenal job.

597
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:37,200
I know he fouled out at the end, but he

598
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:40,200
did a phenomenal job with his discipline because the whole

599
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:44,000
key with I think with Garden him is being having

600
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,960
hand discipline and shot flight fake discipline at the end

601
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,599
of his drives. And I thought we did a great

602
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,480
job of that all night long, and that was a

603
00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:53,480
big key to the game. The other thing we did

604
00:29:53,599 --> 00:29:55,880
is we tried to really be into gaps on him

605
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,200
so he didn't have driving lanes because he is he's

606
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,119
so athletic he can get.

607
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:01,759
Speaker 4: To his spots.

608
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,839
Speaker 5: But I think it's a combination of Sebastian's individual effort

609
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,319
on him, as well as Josiah Sanders and Jalen Holland

610
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:12,559
when they were on him. But it was also a

611
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,240
team thing.

612
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: Where we were gapped up and we made him not

613
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,200
let him play in space.

614
00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:21,599
Speaker 5: If you let him play in space, he can he

615
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,039
can hurt you, and if you don't have hand discipline, he's.

616
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,759
Speaker 3: Gonna get to the free throw line. We did a

617
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,799
you did a great job.

618
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,559
Speaker 5: I thought of that all night long, and and so, yeah,

619
00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:34,440
he's an hell of a player in transition. Man, he

620
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,359
gets going downhill. We tried to wall up a couple times,

621
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:42,000
and he's a he's a handful there. So but he's

622
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,359
obviously he's a heck of a player.

623
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, the kudos to Sebastian. I mean he's six foot

624
00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:50,359
eleven sorbian free two twenty and he moves extremely well

625
00:30:50,559 --> 00:30:53,960
and he stayed grounded. Aj has been making hey all

626
00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:56,799
season long off that pivot foot where he would he'd

627
00:30:56,839 --> 00:30:59,039
get that little pump fake after getting you onto like

628
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,839
kind of onto his should a little bit, getting a

629
00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:03,359
little bit a bit of a leverage on you, and

630
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,480
then get you up in the air, you know, dip

631
00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:07,960
under you, you know, spin off of it, and then

632
00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:10,640
fade away, especially when he's in the you know, close

633
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,839
to the key and right around the free throw line

634
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:16,799
and the elbow. He's very crafty for his size as

635
00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:20,200
a point forward, and Sebastians stayed round it. So congratulations

636
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:21,799
man Den skating report was on point. He did a

637
00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:23,960
really good job in six eleven with a hand in

638
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,160
your face with that length. I don't know if AJ's

639
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,599
really seen that this season when he's getting on one coverage.

640
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,559
So congratulations to Tarantrick. He was, he was very nice.

641
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,799
A couple of last things here, One last one here

642
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:39,839
from k Why what stood out to you Kevin the

643
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,480
most about Rob right the third career night.

644
00:31:43,359 --> 00:31:45,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't even know he had that many points,

645
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,480
to be honest with me, I looked down after the

646
00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:50,240
game and was like, holy cow, he's just he's playing

647
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,680
the game right now at an incredible pace. In terms

648
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,960
of his control, I think he's doing a great job

649
00:31:56,039 --> 00:32:01,559
of his biggest strength, his eating quickness, and I think

650
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,319
sometimes he gets him in trouble. But I think the

651
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,000
last couple of games he's done a fantastic job of getting.

652
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 4: To the paint, playing under control, playoff two feet and uh.

653
00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 6: And then on top of that, like I said before

654
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,200
the other question, he's shooting the ball at a very

655
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,839
high clip on a catch and shoot situation. And you

656
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,440
know that's really helped kind of his efficiency and helped

657
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,119
him be a real scoring.

658
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: Threat for it. Rob, Right, I mean, who's your player?

659
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:29,680
Confer Rob right? The way the forming fashion which he's

660
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,200
playing right now as a score as an athlete undersize,

661
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,559
but thick, he's got some density to him as well.

662
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,039
Who's your player comp right now, Brett, I was ringing

663
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:40,720
the hammer well before you.

664
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:42,759
Speaker 8: It's that the other thing I I as we're giving

665
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:45,599
Rob all this credit for how he played, let's also

666
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:48,039
remember that he tweaked his ankle at one point. He

667
00:32:48,079 --> 00:32:51,079
did that, but that was after Richie had gotten injured.

668
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,119
I do, and clearly it didn't hamper him that much

669
00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:55,519
because he played the rest of the game. But I

670
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,119
do wonder if Richie's still in. Is there a part

671
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,759
of Rob is his hey, and I need to take

672
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,079
us in and get this tweaked. But because Richie is

673
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,599
not available, he says, I don't care how I'm feeling

674
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:05,880
right now.

675
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:08,759
Speaker 3: I just gotta play. I just gotta go ball out.

676
00:33:09,559 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 8: I like the point that you brought up earlier, like,

677
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,079
I don't know that we've seen a bau point guard.

678
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 4: That just.

679
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,039
Speaker 3: One on one, you can't stop me. And we saw

680
00:33:19,119 --> 00:33:19,799
this a little bit.

681
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 8: If you remember in the offseason when AJ and Rob

682
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:25,359
were streaming live on Twitch and we saw those guys

683
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,400
go on one on one. Now, when we watched that,

684
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,799
we assed, Okay, this is one on ones in a gym,

685
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,240
it's impressive, but how does it play out in the game.

686
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,680
And what we're seeing from Rob is it doesn't matter

687
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,640
if it's in a gym, it doesn't matter where it is.

688
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: One on one.

689
00:33:39,079 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 8: You cannot guard me, You cannot stay in front of me,

690
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:45,400
you cannot stop me. And it's it's so I don't

691
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,160
even know who the player comp is. But from a

692
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,200
one on one standpoint Richie or a Rob has been

693
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,240
all that and more. Ronnie, what do you got for me?

694
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:54,200
Who's your player comp?

695
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

696
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,119
Speaker 7: I played against this guy in high school.

697
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: Got cooked.

698
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 7: But and this is just a physicality of the game.

699
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,680
Jalen Brunson, the physicality of how physical Rob is like

700
00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:07,880
Jalen Brunson is not big like he's very physical at

701
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,599
six foot right ben. He shoots better than Rob from

702
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:12,719
the three, but has the ball in his hands just

703
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,119
as much. And the way he's able to get downhill

704
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:17,599
and finish at the rim. And now Jalen, you know,

705
00:34:18,039 --> 00:34:19,880
will do like the little stop and fade away, but

706
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,880
Rob pulls up on you. So that's kind of one

707
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,440
of the comps I thing and just the physicality and

708
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:26,480
how they both are elite guards, you know, the turnover margin.

709
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,480
You know, another guy was thinking about like when he

710
00:34:29,559 --> 00:34:32,079
wants to facilitate like Tias Jones. If you remember what

711
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,719
Tias Jones kind of did. That was another guy as

712
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,559
I think of my comps. But I'm gonna take those

713
00:34:36,599 --> 00:34:39,920
two and go a little bit in between because of that.

714
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:41,039
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

715
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,559
Speaker 7: Somebody, what is it a text to me over the

716
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:45,239
weekend and say he might be gore and dragage and

717
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,480
I'm like, that's a stretch.

718
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 3: That's all. That's way.

719
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 7: I know, like six four, like six four he got

720
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,719
he got long arms because he he was still sh

721
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,880
He's not athletic, but I'm gonna go Jayalen Brunson.

722
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 3: But he was a freak through when he came out.

723
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,480
He's a freak and I think the this thing Rob

724
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:01,079
is a freak too.

725
00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 7: But I'm gonna go, uh, Jalen Brunson with the physicality

726
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,519
and then like Tias Jones of the style and how

727
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:06,280
he facilitates.

728
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna ponder on this because I uh, you know,

729
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,840
he's unique man and has never seen anything like him.

730
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,679
We'll go to break, we'll come back. What do you got?

731
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,119
One thing?

732
00:35:16,599 --> 00:35:20,119
Speaker 8: I just asked Chad GBT, I said, who's Rob Right's player?

733
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:24,360
Com first one, Delon Wright, which I like, it's pretty

734
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:30,199
long though, Yeah, but here's the other one, Tias Jones. Okay, So, like,

735
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:34,880
I mean, clearly, if if either Chad gbt nos ball

736
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:40,320
or Rob no or or Rondo's ball, but that was pick.

737
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: Up from you, Ron, what do you got Vic, I'm

738
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:50,159
gonna go old school. I'm going Isaiah Thomas. Okay, that's.

739
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 4: Well.

740
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 3: The reason is because Isaiah was lightning quick with a

741
00:35:55,480 --> 00:36:00,599
crossover for he had great handles too. Yeah. And Isaiah

742
00:36:00,639 --> 00:36:03,960
Thomas from a hight weight standpoint, he was like five

743
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:07,400
nine one eighty five, so pretty I mean, well, the

744
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,280
original Isaiah Thomas, not Isaiah Thomas from the Celtic, not

745
00:36:11,519 --> 00:36:16,960
the second one, first one. Yeah, but I'm wondering, I

746
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:20,760
think how tall, what was his highway? He was probably

747
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,079
I think category I like that I really liked that

748
00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:29,840
one a lot. Thomas is listed at six one, Yes,

749
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:36,920
six one, and Rob rob right at six one. Okay, gotcha,

750
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,079
they're both. That means they're both five eleven six. I

751
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,320
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couple of questions I've out on X if you want

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to follow me, Acquittal Benjamin. Question of the day, how

804
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have your expectations changed for the BA basketball team in

805
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season now that Richie Sanders is out for the season.

806
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Within a cl tear also out here just a minute ago,

807
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,719
We've never seen a guy. We've never seen a point

808
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,119
guard like Rob Right. B Oyer's never seen it. Who's

809
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your non BAU player conference? Rob Right the third and

810
00:39:21,079 --> 00:39:22,800
why chime in on that want to hear from you,

811
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:26,159
Cougar a nation. But let's get back to the sound.

812
00:39:26,199 --> 00:39:30,119
B YU was in a sad and somber yet a

813
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:35,840
celebratory mode as they beat Colorado in ot by the

814
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:38,320
skin of their teeth, but they lost. For Richie Saunders,

815
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,519
let's continue to ask the questions the k y head

816
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:43,239
coach of the EAU Cougar basketball team, Jimmer Fournett, was

817
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,679
in attendance. Jim er Mania is what we celebrated on

818
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,679
that night, and Jimer was you know, I mean, I

819
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,800
think he was happy with the win, but it was

820
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:57,679
not a Jim er esque performance in totality from the team.

821
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:00,719
But Rob right the third kind of field, the jibber

822
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,559
Fornette shoes. What effect has jibber fort had on b

823
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:04,599
y U basketball?

824
00:40:04,679 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 6: K Why Yeah, I mean, I don't even know if

825
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,159
words can describe his impact on b YU basketball. You know,

826
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,679
I think just the fact that it turned into a

827
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:18,000
true global phenomenon is incredible. On the run he had

828
00:40:18,039 --> 00:40:20,119
here with Coach Rose and all of his teammates is

829
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,599
something that I'm not sure we'll ever see in college

830
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:26,519
basketball ever again at any school. Right and so uh

831
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,880
and for him to I think, just be the type

832
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,960
of person he is, type of a husband, father, ambassador

833
00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:37,360
for b YU, ambassador for the church. It couldn't happen

834
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,760
to a better guy. Super happy for him and his family.

835
00:40:40,679 --> 00:40:42,639
I've enjoyed getting to know him a little bit more

836
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:45,280
on a personal level. You know, we knew each other

837
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,400
a little bit before I got here. But just a

838
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,840
class act and really happy for him and Whitney.

839
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, We're never gonna experience anything like on the

840
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,599
Jimmer media ever again, Like you just you just won't.

841
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,880
I'm trying to think of anything that even compares to

842
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,639
jimmer Mania at the collegiate space or the NBA space.

843
00:41:06,519 --> 00:41:08,800
Can you think of anything? The only thing that I

844
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:12,920
thought that maybe compared to it from because it was

845
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,559
an international phenomena phenomenon, was Linsanity when Jeremy Lynn was

846
00:41:18,639 --> 00:41:20,360
going off for the New York Knicks in a major market,

847
00:41:20,519 --> 00:41:24,440
just getting buckets, doing something that you know, has been

848
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:28,320
rarely seen, and he had the international world really watching

849
00:41:29,079 --> 00:41:32,119
the you know, an entire continent outside of the United

850
00:41:32,159 --> 00:41:35,159
States America was watching it seemed, you know what I mean,

851
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,119
Like even that was so.

852
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 8: Much more short lived, Like that was a run of

853
00:41:39,039 --> 00:41:41,559
just a couple of weeks or a month, not a

854
00:41:41,679 --> 00:41:42,599
full season.

855
00:41:42,519 --> 00:41:45,079
Speaker 3: But I mean to a certain degree, like Jimmermania really

856
00:41:45,119 --> 00:41:48,000
picked up in February March. It was I mean, yeah,

857
00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:51,239
like his year, Jeremy Lynn wasn't doing that for a

858
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,599
full season, is what I'm saying, one hundred percent. Like

859
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,199
I don't know if it was, you know, I would

860
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:57,880
have to look at the dates Lynn. That was the

861
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:01,760
only thing I could compare it. Where like everyone's buzzing

862
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:08,320
about the unexpected productivity and prolifer the proficiency of a

863
00:42:08,559 --> 00:42:11,320
basketball player that shouldn't be doing what he's doing. Does

864
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,320
that make sense? A creative score? And like the world

865
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,079
is talking about that. Basketball world is talking about it.

866
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,199
Speaker 8: What about Steph Curry at Davidson and that run that

867
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,480
they had in the tournament. I realized it's like almost

868
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,360
a one to one. It's like very similar. But step

869
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,119
Curray was very similar where he was the guy that

870
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:32,039
nobody knows playing at Davidson, Yeah cere and then he

871
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,760
was I mean him and Jimmer were very similar. They

872
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,719
were doing the unexpected in the same way that the

873
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:38,519
other one that comes.

874
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: To Yeah, I like that comparison a lot, But like

875
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,559
Jimmer kind of takes the cake, I think in many ways,

876
00:42:44,639 --> 00:42:48,800
but I would say those are my two comparative like

877
00:42:49,559 --> 00:42:55,159
viral basketball, like unexpected moments in the NBA and in

878
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,079
college basketball. I think you bring up a good point

879
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:00,760
with Steph Curry, who is the greatest shooter ever to

880
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,239
walk the face of this earth. So, uh, the effect

881
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:09,599
that Jimmer had on basketball in general, Jim range like,

882
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,840
I look at what Steph Curry has done, and you wonder, like, okay,

883
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:18,960
like who has Jimmer influenced? Who did he impact in

884
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:23,039
that and at that time to make them want to

885
00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:27,360
take more three point shots? Right? And look, there's been

886
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,920
some great three point shooters in the NBA over the

887
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:34,719
last twenty five thirty years, et cetera. But like, off

888
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,599
the bounce has always been different than catch and shoot.

889
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,440
Does that make sense? It's one thing to catch and

890
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,199
shoot and be a three point shooter. You can make

891
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:49,360
a case that Jimmer was somewhat of, like I mean,

892
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,760
at least a collegiate pioneer to like be off the bounce,

893
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,360
off the dribble, crossover, pull up step back that he

894
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:59,639
was kind of before his time. Not many people were

895
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:03,880
doing that in the late two thousand's, early two thousand,

896
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,800
you know, two two thousand and nine eleven, that was

897
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:09,280
That became jim or Mania, That became Jim Ors, That

898
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,320
became Jim range. Pulling up as you cross half court.

899
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,519
Not many people were doing that, nor did they have

900
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:19,119
the lease. Remember, you're only as good as the leash

901
00:44:19,159 --> 00:44:21,400
and the coaching staff that trust you. And you did

902
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,920
not see that many coaches that were willing to just

903
00:44:25,159 --> 00:44:29,719
give a shooter the green light when he crossed half court.

904
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,159
And even jimm Er had to earn that. Under Dave Rose,

905
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,280
he got more equity, more tenure his junior year, got

906
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,679
a longer lease, and then to get him to come back.

907
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:42,280
What did Dave say? What did Tim Lacombe say, What

908
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,320
did Dave Rice say? What did all these coaches say?

909
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:47,320
That final years and you have a green light from

910
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,880
wherever even if you want to pull up from beyond

911
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,119
half court on the run, whatever you want, man, you

912
00:44:55,199 --> 00:44:59,679
can do it. And that confidence, I mean when when

913
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:03,920
you have to right player on the court, it breeds insanity.

914
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,840
It's insane in the membrane, it's uh, it's jim or Mania,

915
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:10,920
it's uh. In my opinion, is better than lisanity.

916
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 8: So, and what's crazy is like we've seen it, but

917
00:45:14,599 --> 00:45:17,920
we still haven't seen it replicated that much. Like I

918
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,360
can list on one hand the college shooters that I

919
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,280
remember that were that level of players. Caitlin clark is won,

920
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:28,599
Buddy Healed season at Oklahoma was up there, Trey Young

921
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:29,519
season also.

922
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,599
Speaker 3: At Oklahoma was up there.

923
00:45:31,079 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 8: But like, even though we've seen it done, we haven't

924
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,679
really seen it replicated. And so to your point, I

925
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,920
don't know when we'll see it again because it's just

926
00:45:41,159 --> 00:45:42,480
not that easy to do.

927
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean to have a season in which you

928
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,760
become the Nationith Award winner, like and you're scoring at

929
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,239
that rate consistently versus some good competition, it doesn't happen, right,

930
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:57,360
Like you you have these fleeting moments in NCAA tournament,

931
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:02,320
Like you know, our favorite basketball player, non bowie basketball player,

932
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,280
Jack Goldkie, right, Like we've been very high on jagging.

933
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,679
Jack Goldkie had thirty two versus Kentucky. He just went

934
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,960
off ten of twenty from the field, all of them

935
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,360
with three point shots. By the way, he was fifty

936
00:46:16,159 --> 00:46:20,000
from the field that he shot twenty threes versus Kentucky.

937
00:46:20,079 --> 00:46:24,880
To get coach Cal out Mark Pope in and to

938
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,039
give byu fans Ky and the new era of Bou basketball.

939
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,880
That the frenzy that's upon us, right, and then he

940
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,280
went off for twenty two versus Ency State. Not nearly

941
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,280
as efficient. He was thirty five percent from the field

942
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,239
in that game. He shot seventeen threes. Right, But like

943
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,480
once again, the uniqueness was, has been and always will

944
00:46:43,519 --> 00:46:47,280
be the off the bounce creation and pull up from

945
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:52,639
anywhere off the bounce in transition, before you even get

946
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:55,519
into your half court set, He's like, I'm open, I'm

947
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:59,760
taking this thirty footer. And thus Jim or Range has

948
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,719
has you know, has it come up in teaching me

949
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,320
how to gymmer? You know all these things, right, let's

950
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,920
get back to it. But it's extremely impactful, not him

951
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,840
from a BAU standpoint, but obviously from uh A national

952
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,639
and international standpoint. He made a huge impact in the

953
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,280
in the game of basketball. Why did you give more

954
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,880
minutes to Beido? Going back to the conversation in Colorado.

955
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,239
In the Colorado game, Beato down the stretch rather than Keba.

956
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 4: I thought Beato's picking a roll coverage was good. You know,

957
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,840
we went to a little bit more of a drop coverage.

958
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 6: I thought he had he had five blocks, you know,

959
00:47:33,039 --> 00:47:35,039
that's his strength, and so those guards are good.

960
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 4: And kid Johnson's a really good player.

961
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 8: You know.

962
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 4: We saw hard Grace last year when he's at Riverside

963
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,880
and so you know, it was tough to Uh.

964
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,679
Speaker 6: We were trying to put two on the ball early

965
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,800
and I thought they were getting to their spots even

966
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,199
more so went to a different coverage and Bido, I

967
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,920
thought I was doing a good job there.

968
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,079
Speaker 4: So I just kind of wrote them out.

969
00:47:56,159 --> 00:47:59,079
Speaker 3: Were you guys impressed by Bido? Obviously Cable was limited.

970
00:47:59,159 --> 00:48:01,840
He had the concussion earlier in the season that set

971
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,119
him back. He's had a hand injury, he had rich

972
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,239
injury over the last few weeks that has set him back.

973
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,480
He's not as aggressive, He's not as good maybe defensively

974
00:48:11,559 --> 00:48:13,719
and not as good offensively. And that's why he struggled

975
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:16,360
with point blank shots and even from the free throw

976
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,840
line when he gets to the charity stripe. So we're

977
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,480
gonna have to rely with you, whether you like it

978
00:48:20,599 --> 00:48:23,440
or not. You either get Keba healthy somehow through a miracle,

979
00:48:23,679 --> 00:48:25,519
or Bido has to step up.

980
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I Beido defensively is where I tend to worry

981
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,199
a little bit. However, like we've been talking about on

982
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,840
this show, what makes me feel better about the absence

983
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,440
of Keba is actually the.

984
00:48:44,199 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 3: Improved minutes from.

985
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 8: Hadem boop, because again, he may not be seven to one,

986
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:53,719
but he's strong enough to be able to play with

987
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:58,280
those guys down low. In this game, actually, Abdula Ahmed

988
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,920
played more minutes then Hadeem Hadem played fourteen. Abdullah Ahmed

989
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,840
played twenty three. He scored one point just off a

990
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:09,559
free throw, and he went oh for one, so he

991
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:12,639
wasn't even really taking shots. He was primarily there as

992
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:16,199
a rebounding presence. He did have five rebounds on the game.

993
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,519
Rebounding was really just distributed in this one. Agent had

994
00:49:19,559 --> 00:49:22,599
thirteen and then it was basically rebound committee from everybody else,

995
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:23,760
including Abdullah.

996
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 3: So I am a little worried.

997
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,119
Speaker 8: Honestly, Abdulahmed worries me defensively, and I don't feel like

998
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:37,880
he's good enough at other things to warrant not being

999
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,519
incredible defensively.

1000
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:42,039
Speaker 3: The foul troubles what worries me.

1001
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:44,159
Speaker 8: Again, he had four and this one didn't foul out,

1002
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:49,039
but but yeah, those are probably my biggest questions with Abdullah.

1003
00:49:49,159 --> 00:49:52,000
But if we don't have Keba, I feel okay, because

1004
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:56,360
I actually even healthy Keba or healthy Hadem, Like that

1005
00:49:56,599 --> 00:49:58,480
line to me is getting a lot closer than I

1006
00:49:58,519 --> 00:49:59,280
thought it would have been.

1007
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 3: Which big do you trust lease? Right now? Mihilo, Mihai

1008
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:09,239
hademuh Beidu Achman, or Keva? Who do you trust? Lease?

1009
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:14,880
At least them out. For me, it's probably Mihilo. You

1010
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:18,159
just don't trust me. And but here's what bums me out.

1011
00:50:18,199 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 8: Though I loved seeing him step up in Big twelve

1012
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,800
play last year, I remember that picket role play that

1013
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,199
they ran at West Virginia when he scores the game

1014
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:28,000
winner and we're.

1015
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,119
Speaker 3: Like, okay, Mehilo, like Mihilo might be nice with it.

1016
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 8: And then we saw how he stretched the floor, which

1017
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,239
is three point shooting, and frankly, I think if he's

1018
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,000
knocking down threes, this is a completely different team because

1019
00:50:40,039 --> 00:50:42,840
then you force the defense to have to account for Mihilo.

1020
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:45,440
At this point in the season, the defense is say, hey,

1021
00:50:45,519 --> 00:50:47,920
we'll let you take it. When you start making it,

1022
00:50:48,039 --> 00:50:50,000
that's when will come guard you. And I hope we

1023
00:50:50,119 --> 00:50:52,719
get that because that version of me Hilo makes this

1024
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,199
BYU basketball team significantly more dangerous.

1025
00:50:56,199 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 9: It's just the boneheaded mistakes, like throwing it in the

1026
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,280
back court. Come man, you know, to aj you know,

1027
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:05,960
not waiting for him to get past half court.

1028
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,679
Speaker 3: It's like, look, that kind deck gets me.

1029
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,159
Speaker 8: And I think his shot selection is not always great.

1030
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,880
And the bummer is that sometimes he makes bad shots.

1031
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,480
And it's like, Okay, well I don't that wasn't a

1032
00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:20,719
good shot, but you made it. Those were other ones

1033
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,320
that were good shots that you didn't make.

1034
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,599
Speaker 3: And and I love me hollow.

1035
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:25,519
Speaker 8: I want him to be really good because I think

1036
00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:27,480
when he's good, boy, basketball is good.

1037
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,559
Speaker 3: Roddie, who's the big that you trust the least? Yeah,

1038
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:33,199
it's myhilo, It really is.

1039
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: I hate to say it.

1040
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:38,079
Speaker 7: Look, I watched Kevin Young and how he does rotations. Uh,

1041
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:41,519
and Tyler almost got himself untrusted because remember he hits

1042
00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:43,639
the two threes and then he lets the guy get

1043
00:51:43,679 --> 00:51:45,360
the rebound, he pulls it from him, then the foul.

1044
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,440
So Tyler almost got himself into some trouble, but he

1045
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,199
made it up for him the second half. To your point, though,

1046
00:51:49,639 --> 00:51:51,960
it's a mahilo, Ben, I really think it is is

1047
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:53,920
just when you see a guy. Second, you're in a

1048
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,480
program like no other guy should be coming in that

1049
00:51:57,639 --> 00:51:59,920
hasn't played as much and out doing it. You can

1050
00:52:00,159 --> 00:52:02,079
argue that that Hadeen Boop has played better.

1051
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:02,599
Speaker 3: You can't.

1052
00:52:02,639 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 7: You can make that argument defensively. It's not just scoring

1053
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,000
that can't happen. That can't happen, Ben, and I think

1054
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,440
that's a struggle. And I love my Hilo. I love

1055
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,320
the swagger, the confident. I love a guy that's over confident.

1056
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,400
But you have to show up and perform. You can't

1057
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,320
throw the ball in the back court. Like Vic said that,

1058
00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:20,320
those things just it can't occur. But I'm wondering, Ben,

1059
00:52:20,639 --> 00:52:23,599
I'm wondering. I saw this episode last year where there

1060
00:52:23,639 --> 00:52:25,840
are certain guys of like, okay, why are you doing that?

1061
00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:28,559
And then they got to March Madness, and then all

1062
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:30,760
of a sudden, guys acted like they remember they knew

1063
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,880
how to play basketball in every moment. And I don't

1064
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:34,440
know if it takes that, but for guys that have

1065
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,400
played overseas, like you look at Lesti kostch Right, that

1066
00:52:38,679 --> 00:52:40,559
shot was heavily contested. You could argue it was a

1067
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:43,400
bad shot. You can and he drills and I wonder

1068
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,199
what these guys that have played in the biggest moments,

1069
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,280
will we see my hil logo crazy in the big

1070
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,119
twelf tournament? Will we see him go crazy and march madness?

1071
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:52,079
And part of me is like, I think he can

1072
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:55,280
hit that and take his shots because the lights aren't

1073
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,000
too bright. And when you get to these moments when

1074
00:52:57,039 --> 00:52:59,400
someone else might not you know, have played on this platform,

1075
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,280
maybe a couldn't Davis Junior when it's his turn, I

1076
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,360
don't think they missed, so we'll see. But right now

1077
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,480
it's him. But I think the point too about Bidu.

1078
00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:11,719
He has to do that now against Iowa State. You

1079
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,559
know Jefferson, he has to do it against Thelwaka. If

1080
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:17,119
he does that this week, Ben, then I can say,

1081
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,079
you know, I have more confidence in him. When you're

1082
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:21,599
blocking dudes on Colorado who is their first year, I

1083
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,320
expect that. So you got to see it from the

1084
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,079
high level players like this is what been. I know

1085
00:53:26,159 --> 00:53:28,639
I'm changing the subject, but this week is gonna teach

1086
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,719
us really a lot about BA. You got Rob saying

1087
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,159
it ain't over till it's over posting this. I hope

1088
00:53:33,199 --> 00:53:36,760
this team is fired up with Richie being out and says,

1089
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,199
you know, we're gonna go and shock the world and

1090
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,719
win it and just go crazy. If they did that, Ben,

1091
00:53:41,559 --> 00:53:43,679
at this point, that should be their motivation. Don't tattoo

1092
00:53:43,679 --> 00:53:44,960
it on your body. I'm not saying that, but they

1093
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,400
should write it with the pen, get the paper, write it.

1094
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 3: On your ankle.

1095
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 7: Tape for fifteen like this season, the rest of it

1096
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,760
should be dedicated towards Richie, and I hope they play

1097
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,800
all hard enough because we're gonna get the Robin aj sound.

1098
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,159
Rob said himself in the interview, Ben, Richie's the hardest

1099
00:53:59,199 --> 00:53:59,960
worker on their team.

1100
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, I would love to see everyone elevate

1101
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:10,360
their work ethic and celebration of of Richie and to

1102
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:15,079
make his uh his hard work and sacrifices, uh mean

1103
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:18,599
a little bit more. Does this feel reminiscent of when

1104
00:54:18,679 --> 00:54:21,480
Taysom Hill broke his leg during the Jim mc named

1105
00:54:21,519 --> 00:54:24,519
Jim mcmaon's jersey was retired. I believe that same game.

1106
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:30,239
I mean, look, there was three season ending injuries with

1107
00:54:30,639 --> 00:54:33,800
with Taysom, so like all of them, that's true, We're

1108
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:39,519
pretty devastating. All of them were impactful, like they Yeah,

1109
00:54:39,599 --> 00:54:42,239
they all sucked because there was some time. There were

1110
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,599
there was a time too, like when they were undefeated

1111
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:48,239
and ranked and they were discussion of Heisman because he

1112
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,920
was running for one hundred and throwing for over two

1113
00:54:51,039 --> 00:54:55,119
fifty in games, and and and just he looked like

1114
00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,119
a modern day you know, great White Hope, but Oh

1115
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:05,000
Jackson type of running back where he's completely dominating everybody.

1116
00:55:05,079 --> 00:55:08,480
He was an elite athlete. So like, look, I think

1117
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:12,719
all of these injuries from key players or if you

1118
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,000
talk about you know, Kyle Collinsworth, they were about to

1119
00:55:16,039 --> 00:55:18,920
make a run and and he injured his ACL late

1120
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,599
in the season. Obviously, the Brandon Davies situation with the

1121
00:55:23,679 --> 00:55:28,280
honor code leading during Jimmer madey that was devastating. Like

1122
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:33,079
all of these are devastating to kugarnation. And that's why

1123
00:55:33,159 --> 00:55:34,960
BWA fans, I hate to say it, they feel like

1124
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,400
bo athletics is a little bit cursed. It certainly has

1125
00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:43,239
not been great last week. No man, it is not.

1126
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,800
Let's get through these last sound bites and we'll go

1127
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,159
to break follow up on KBA. How would you evaluate

1128
00:55:48,199 --> 00:55:49,920
how he's played recently, Ky.

1129
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, it definitely needs to pick it up, for sure.

1130
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,360
You know, he's got he had he has an injury

1131
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,599
going on with his hand, and and and you know,

1132
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:57,239
things happen.

1133
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 4: You know, you go through ups and downs.

1134
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 6: You know, he's definitely uh, you know, wants to play

1135
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,039
better if challenge him. You know, we've had some conversations,

1136
00:56:05,079 --> 00:56:07,239
so my coaches have had some conversation with him. So

1137
00:56:08,639 --> 00:56:11,000
you know, we need his intensity, there's no getting around it.

1138
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:13,360
You know, he's a guy that you know, athletically is

1139
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,440
second to none. So we got to continue to try

1140
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:16,440
to find ways.

1141
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 4: To get him giving us a little bit more production.

1142
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,079
And that's how me to figure out.

1143
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,639
Speaker 3: I've been very high on Lexi Coastick. I think he

1144
00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:26,079
could be really good for the Kougs. Kevin. Can the

1145
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,920
late three point shot by Lexi n o t help

1146
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:33,119
Shooter's mentality this late in the season, Yeah, I think so, you.

1147
00:56:33,159 --> 00:56:36,519
Speaker 6: Know, there's a is this a beautiful thing in terms

1148
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:38,360
of what seeing the ball go through the net does

1149
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,599
to your confidence and also you know, not just that,

1150
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,079
but then I think you also draw a lot of

1151
00:56:45,159 --> 00:56:47,920
confidence from from when your teammates believe that you're gonna

1152
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,280
make shots. You know, they're looking for him, they're trying

1153
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:51,920
to find them on kickouts. You know, I've talked to

1154
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:52,360
a j A.

1155
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like playing with ours because he knows how

1156
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,480
to get to the spots and make easy passes for me.

1157
00:56:56,599 --> 00:56:59,559
Speaker 6: So uh yeah, I think not just him, but Tyler too,

1158
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,800
you know, and with with Richie situation, you know, who knows.

1159
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,559
Speaker 4: You know, we're gonna need some shooting and glad for

1160
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:08,480
those guys to get a chance to do it in

1161
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:10,000
a game we actually had to win.

1162
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 3: Oh man, gotta get healthy, gotta stay strong. Hopefully our

1163
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,400
guys can do it. What was your message by the way,

1164
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,360
Khy and going into overtime in order to get the

1165
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,000
best out of your team, you know.

1166
00:57:23,199 --> 00:57:25,719
Speaker 4: Just trying to like they got a little too comfortable.

1167
00:57:25,719 --> 00:57:27,519
Speaker 6: You know, we're trying to get our defense right, make

1168
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sure we had the right coverages, but but just trying

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to dig down, you know, like like coming into the

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game again, I'll say it again, like you know, I.

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Speaker 4: Fully expected that game to be very difficult. You know,

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they got they got punched in the mouth on the road.

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You know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you all saw coach Boyle's comments

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after the game, but he clearly wasn't happy, and you

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know he's a veteran coach He's had.

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Speaker 4: A lot of success. I have a lot of respect for.

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Speaker 6: Him, and so you knew his team was gonna be

1179
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ready to come in and fight, you know, And that's

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a good lesson for our guys. But you know, as

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much as anything, I'm just happy that that our guys

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were able to pull a went out.

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Speaker 4: Games like those can be very challenging, especially given what

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happened early in the game emotionally and so forth.

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Speaker 6: So that all that to be all I'm saying all

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that to say that that was kind of the message

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in a timeout, like, man, let's let's find a way

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to go out and get this thing done, and thankfully

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we did.

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Speaker 3: There you go, any o the final flats before we

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wrap that segment up. Guys, Ronald Brett always bringing a

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hammer anything. Nope, I this doesn't really have anything to

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do with basketball. I'd just like to mention it anytime

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we play Colorado.

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Speaker 8: But Coach Boils Man, I respect that he's kept his

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styles the same since the eighties, but that jacket sport

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coat hants combo I every time I see it, I

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feel like I'm I'm transported back in time. So shoutouts

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had Boils for now changing his style in thirty years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just be be true to who you are. Don't

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