Speaker 1: Oh thats are.
Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan,
Speaker 3: I'm Jacob. Now there was a good cult member whenever
Speaker 3: we were over at bro Grove a few days ago,
Speaker 3: over the over this past weekend, that was like, all right,
Speaker 3: I need to know what's the next episode going to be.
Speaker 3: I want a little insider information. And I said that
Speaker 3: it was actually going to be this episode. But then,
Speaker 3: of course the whole Iran and Israel and America debacle
Speaker 3: just had to go down over the weekend. And these
Speaker 3: things always happened whenever we're on trips. You ever noticed that, Like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we when we went to South Carolina, it was the
Speaker 3: Chinese spy balloon, And now we got to Florida and
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, yeah, you know, bombs are being dropped
Speaker 3: and Iran It's like what the fuck?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people were of the belief that
Speaker 5: we were about to into World War three. I'd said, no,
Speaker 5: there's no way we're actually about to do that. I
Speaker 5: didn't think America was going to get involved at all.
Speaker 5: I understand why they dropped ordinance on three specific locations
Speaker 5: and all that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, cool, cool, now it's being called the twelve
Speaker 4: Day War, and I'm like, big dog, that's a really
Speaker 4: stupid name for this, because they're trying to make it
Speaker 4: sound like the Six Day War, when there was like
Speaker 4: four or five countries that all invaded Israel at the
Speaker 4: same time. This was not that.
Speaker 3: This uns have you been keeping up with it over
Speaker 3: the past, like twelve hours, eighteen hours?
Speaker 4: Yes, apparently Iran broke the ceasefire agreement. Shocker. Who could
Speaker 4: have ever predicted that Iran would go back on their word?
Speaker 6: And like, so, okay, cool, cool, Yeah, So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 6: it seemed like they were coming to a ceasefire and
Speaker 6: there was gonna be a peace agreement gonna be happening
Speaker 6: with that.
Speaker 2: But we'll see.
Speaker 3: I mean, these kind of things, it's almost like, you know,
Speaker 3: whenever you're in the conspiracy world, dude, you know, nothing
Speaker 3: is ever easy, you know what I'm saying, Like nothing's
Speaker 3: ever simple, Like nothing's ever like, oh, they found peace
Speaker 3: and now they they love each other and they're singing
Speaker 3: kumbay A by the fire. It's like, I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's gonna happen that quick. Unfortunately, it's probably gonna
Speaker 3: have to get a little bit dirtier before that happens.
Speaker 4: Typically that's how it goes down.
Speaker 5: And everybody was so worried because they shot at one
Speaker 5: of our bases in the UAE writ in Qatar, and
Speaker 5: they're like, uh.
Speaker 4: Oh man, America, they hit one of our bases. But
Speaker 4: but dude, they did. They didn't come close. They shot
Speaker 4: like eighteen shots.
Speaker 5: All of our ground to air defenses shot down the
Speaker 5: missiles before they got closed except for one, right, and
Speaker 5: Iran was like, ah, one of them got through your
Speaker 5: impenetrable force. But it's like, yeah, but the reason why
Speaker 5: we didn't shoot is because it went and hit.
Speaker 2: The dirt nothing.
Speaker 5: It was so far off that they like, we didn't
Speaker 5: send up ordinance to stop it because you suck at
Speaker 5: your job, but we're really good at ours.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 5: I'm still currently as a time of recording of the
Speaker 5: belief that America is not gonna get actually involved in
Speaker 5: this situation.
Speaker 4: Could be wrong, could be wrong.
Speaker 5: But I also even if America does get involved, this
Speaker 5: is not gonna be a World War three.
Speaker 4: This will be an open and closed conversation.
Speaker 3: That being said, this episode, we are shooting on a Tuesday,
Speaker 3: and this isn't coming out until Friday, so a lot
Speaker 3: of them could happen until then, just as it did yesterday.
Speaker 4: Right. I guess we'll see what happens. I don't know,
Speaker 4: just man, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's hard to remain up to the minute whenever your
Speaker 3: show's got to go out a couple of days in advance,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: What I mean.
Speaker 5: I'm not typically wrong on things like this, but I
Speaker 5: mean I am not a one percent you know guy here,
Speaker 5: And I know if everybody says that if Jacob was
Speaker 5: a FED, he's got to be the worst one ever.
Speaker 4: Because I wasn't read in on this one.
Speaker 5: I didn't know that we were about to send ground
Speaker 5: penetrators to Iran.
Speaker 4: I was out of the loop on that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that is uh, that is need to
Speaker 2: know information, and they just, you know, your FEDS above
Speaker 2: you just thought that that wasn't really required for you
Speaker 2: to know that kind of shit.
Speaker 5: If I am a FED, I'm probably the shit bag
Speaker 5: fed that nobody actually let's read in on the conversations,
Speaker 5: which that makes sense.
Speaker 3: To although I mean you have long said that I
Speaker 3: am your handler, and I called this one out before
Speaker 3: you did, and so maybe I was a little bit
Speaker 3: more red in than you were.
Speaker 4: I mean, who's the fed? Now? You know, everybody quit
Speaker 4: hating on me. I ain't just shit here. Jonathan's the
Speaker 4: one that called this one.
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Speaker 3: well that was the business, but let's get to the
Speaker 3: actual meat and potatoes of what we're gonna be talking
Speaker 3: about today. Why you decided to listen to this specific episode.
Speaker 3: I know not everybody has time to listen to every
Speaker 3: damn episode we put out because there's fourteen fifteen shows
Speaker 3: a week going on right now, and I mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's an insane thing that we got going on over here,
Speaker 3: but it's a one big, beautiful family, and everybody's purpose
Speaker 3: is to open up that third eye. That is what
Speaker 3: we were put on this planet to do. We do
Speaker 3: believe that it was God's will, it was the Universe's will,
Speaker 3: it was the sources will.
Speaker 2: It might just be my higher self will.
Speaker 3: We don't know where it all comes from, to be
Speaker 3: honest with you, but I mean we feel inspired to
Speaker 3: do so and we love doing it. So today we're
Speaker 3: gonna be talking about Hollywood's hidden hand movies that were
Speaker 3: funded by the US government.
Speaker 4: Indeed.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, baby, So so we're tarting a little propaganda.
Speaker 5: We're talking a little symbolism in the background that people
Speaker 5: may not have seen.
Speaker 4: What exactly do you mean here.
Speaker 3: Well, we had just got done talking about just a
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago about Tavistock and a lot of
Speaker 3: and that's the British version of propaganda on the US,
Speaker 3: which you know, you had the British invasion and all
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, but.
Speaker 4: That's not a hippie wave and all these things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it wasn't just the Brits that were doing it.
Speaker 3: I mean we had Sri doing it over here for
Speaker 3: the longest time too. They were working hand in hand
Speaker 3: with that, amongst other you know, think tanks. But this
Speaker 3: one is more going to be government and military based.
Speaker 3: As far as like, dude, I didn't know that the
Speaker 3: government has a certain amount of money that they can
Speaker 3: spend as far as their propagation in Hollywood. I mean
Speaker 3: I kind of figured so like we always thought, you know,
Speaker 3: like it it's one thing to to see a little
Speaker 3: bit of propaganda and you're like, oh man, that director,
Speaker 3: what direction. Was he trying to point this show or
Speaker 3: this movie or whatever in But sometimes it is so
Speaker 3: easy to spot that the government had some kind of
Speaker 3: hand within the script writing and everything of movies.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: I could believe this because we talked about this too
Speaker 5: with the NFL. For instance, when they the DoD started
Speaker 5: paying the NFL to make sure that the star spangled
Speaker 5: banner was shown, that the players had to stand with
Speaker 5: their helmet on their left tip and their hand on
Speaker 5: their heart in the line and the whole nine That
Speaker 5: wasn't a law until I want to say it was
Speaker 5: like a law. It wasn't a rule in the NFL.
Speaker 5: Wasn't like till two thousand and three. There was a
Speaker 5: couple of years after nine to eleven and they were
Speaker 5: trying to draw more on the recruiting side of things,
Speaker 5: so they made the NFL go this direction. And I mean, yes,
Speaker 5: they always played the national anthem before football game, that's
Speaker 5: never been a question, but the optics of it being
Speaker 5: what it is today.
Speaker 2: The DoD paid the NF fell for that.
Speaker 4: So when you look at Hollywood movies especially, yeah, I
Speaker 4: could believe that the DoD has some money to throw
Speaker 4: Hollywood's way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, it's not you know, confirmed, the amount that
Speaker 3: they have to spend. It's possible that there's no cap
Speaker 3: to it. But it is interesting because a lot of
Speaker 3: these movies are extremely patriotic in nature. Now you would say, well,
Speaker 3: why would you need to program the American minds to
Speaker 3: be patriotic? Everybody should be patriotic. We should all live
Speaker 3: the country that we are, love the country that we
Speaker 3: live in. But just in case there are a couple
Speaker 3: of stragglers out there that hate this country and will
Speaker 3: do whatever they can to bad mouth this country, We're
Speaker 3: gonna make sure we propagandize within military movies. It's mainly
Speaker 3: military movies if I'm being real, but you know, and
Speaker 3: it could be like recruitment style things like we talked
Speaker 3: about like Top Gun before, about how Top Gun was
Speaker 3: one of the main recruiters for the Navy at the time,
Speaker 3: which came out in eighty six. Right, it works, It
Speaker 3: absolutely works. I mean yeah it did, because what was
Speaker 3: Saving Private Ryan? Your movie?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 5: Saving Private Ryan was mine? Absolutely and uh Maverick that movie.
Speaker 5: So the recruiting numbers for the military have been down
Speaker 5: for quite some time. And I don't mean just like
Speaker 5: a few thousand I mean a lot of thousands that
Speaker 5: they were pretty much banking on these people joining and
Speaker 5: they were not there except for the Navy in the
Speaker 5: past couple of years. Why you might ask, because the
Speaker 5: Maverick movie came out and the Navy actually saw not
Speaker 5: a skyrocket by any means.
Speaker 4: But they met their quota. No other branch did.
Speaker 5: Very interesting that came out around the time Tom Cruise
Speaker 5: let out another banger of a movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all very specific, you know, kind of plotted,
Speaker 3: kind of timing that we're talking about here as far
Speaker 3: as some of these movies go. And we're gonna get
Speaker 3: into it's not just the movies either, is that the
Speaker 3: the government and the military have certain actors that they
Speaker 3: like to call on more so than other actors, you know,
Speaker 3: a Ford, to push forth some kind of propaganda. It's
Speaker 3: not always military, but today's today's episode is going to
Speaker 3: be mainly military movies that were funded by the government, uh,
Speaker 3: to propagandize and to basically make everybody patriotic and and
Speaker 3: look at the military and the police and the first
Speaker 3: responders and all that stuff in a positive light. So
Speaker 3: I would understand that, I do get why they would
Speaker 3: do it. But it's not that cut and dry as
Speaker 3: nothing ever is. So we're gonnare's government funding going to it.
Speaker 3: There's going to be buffoonery and but fuckery along the way.
Speaker 3: It's just how it goes, exactly, And it's all about
Speaker 3: where the money's being funded.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 3: So you had, uh, what was that that program that
Speaker 3: they that all of the stores and all the companies
Speaker 3: had to run, uh to make sure that they were
Speaker 3: like supportive of gay pride and uh oh DEI yeah,
Speaker 3: all the DEI the yeah, all of that they And then.
Speaker 5: I'm glad that that's so antiquated that you forgot what
Speaker 5: the acronym was. And it's only been a few months
Speaker 5: since that's been off the books. But like that that
Speaker 5: thing that used to be, Yeah, I'm happy about that.
Speaker 2: Because it was ridiculous. I mean it was so.
Speaker 3: It not genuine, you know what I mean, Like it
Speaker 3: was corporate and it's corporate support you know. Damn well,
Speaker 3: Target doesn't give a shit if if you tuck your
Speaker 3: wiener somewhere, Like they're just like, no, we need money,
Speaker 3: you know, and look if we got to do this,
Speaker 3: maybe it's a law that we have to do this.
Speaker 3: And so what's interesting is is that you see now
Speaker 3: during Pride month, which isn't it this month it's about
Speaker 3: to end. I have not seen any corporate logo with
Speaker 3: a rainbow on it, have you.
Speaker 5: Nope, because it's no longer required. And that's saving companies money.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.
Speaker 3: And and all of those corporations that you thought were
Speaker 3: so supportive, No, they were doing it because they had to.
Speaker 3: They didn't have any other choice, Like Budweiser almost went
Speaker 3: under because of it, right, And and that's and that's
Speaker 3: a shame. You know, we all want we all want,
Speaker 3: like the the companies and corporations that we love and support,
Speaker 3: we all want them to be able to kick back.
Speaker 3: But unfortunately they're gonna get fined if they don't. And
Speaker 3: it's they're just they kind of go along to get along.
Speaker 3: That's just the corporate reality we live in. But thank
Speaker 3: god they ended up repealing all that nonsense. And now
Speaker 3: I can, you know, go on Amazon without there being
Speaker 3: some kind of rainbow flag. Nothing against the rainbow flag
Speaker 3: at all. I don't care you want to be gay, whatever,
Speaker 3: But what I have an issue with is whenever they
Speaker 3: got the light pink and the light blue on there I'm.
Speaker 4: Of the trans flag that thing there, it's weird.
Speaker 3: Well it's not, it's just trans It's like pushing it
Speaker 3: towards kids, you know what I mean, Like that's what
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I will never agree with that.
Speaker 4: Dude, Budweiser.
Speaker 5: The only thing that saved them as a company is
Speaker 5: Shane Gillison Post Malone. Let's just be real here, Okay,
Speaker 5: let's just lay all cards on the table. They went
Speaker 5: and played a really stupid game and they won a
Speaker 5: really stupid prize. They had to get the two biggest
Speaker 5: Quintessential bros Ever to save their brand, and honestly, they
Speaker 5: were the only two that could have done it.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well, I mean they they tried their very best.
Speaker 3: And what's funny is as soon as they repealed that,
Speaker 3: they went back to like, you know, like the the
Speaker 3: Man's Beer and you know, you got the horses and
Speaker 3: the carriage and it's all set in the fucking Western times,
Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, here we go.
Speaker 2: Now we're back to regular Budweiser.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they act like we forgot. They act like we forgot.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry if you're drinking a bud light, Like there's
Speaker 5: there's easier ways to come out of the closet.
Speaker 2: You're still you're.
Speaker 4: Still if you like bud light by curious, I mean, hey,
Speaker 4: that's fine. I'm not here to judge you. You like
Speaker 4: to put things where they don't like to do you, brother,
Speaker 4: that's fine. But like there is non gay beer out there.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It's called Miller High Life.
Speaker 4: Oh Guinness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's just me shout out to Yingling the fucking a. Yes,
Speaker 3: they never went that way. But it's kind of like,
Speaker 3: you know, like you always say, it's like you build
Speaker 3: a thousand bridges, but then you but then you drink
Speaker 3: one bud light.
Speaker 4: You know, what are you going to be known as?
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, it's not my fault that you told the world.
Speaker 3: This is what it is so ridiculous. All right, let's
Speaker 3: get back to it. So today we're going to be
Speaker 3: diving into a hidden alliance between Hollywood and the US government.
Speaker 3: Through declassified documents and the Freedom of Information Act requests,
Speaker 3: we now know that the Pentagon, the CIA, and other
Speaker 3: agencies have directly influenced hundreds of films and TV shows,
Speaker 3: not just helping with logistics, but literally rewriting scripts, controlling narratives,
Speaker 3: and embedding propaganda from fighter jets to superheroes. The US
Speaker 3: government has been shaping your perception one movie at a time. Now,
Speaker 3: let's dig into the titles that you know and love
Speaker 3: and uncover the programming hidden beneath the plot. So there
Speaker 3: is documented evidence that the US government, particularly through the
Speaker 3: Department of Defense or DoD and the CIA, has funded, influenced,
Speaker 3: or collaborated on a large number of movies and TV
Speaker 3: shows to help shape public perception and promote pro government
Speaker 3: or pro military narratives. This isn't just a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 3: It's been confirmed through Foyer requests and scholarly research. So
Speaker 3: where does it all start?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: A lot of people it's it's hard to keep track
Speaker 3: of it. But you can kind of look back at
Speaker 3: a lot of the older movies and be like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: you know, because you see, you know, how they're able,
Speaker 3: how you're able to see kind of through the ship
Speaker 3: for example. Right Like for example, let's say I don't
Speaker 3: know what's your favorite director.
Speaker 4: I really like Scorsese.
Speaker 3: Let's say Scorsese he wants to do something with military
Speaker 3: in it, but you know, him just being a director
Speaker 3: or an actor, he doesn't have access to tanks or
Speaker 3: drones and you know, uh, military equipment and military vehicles
Speaker 3: and maybe uh just whatever certain you know, access to
Speaker 3: certain bases and whatnot. Well, then what he'll do is
Speaker 3: he'll he'll go to the d D or uh, you know,
Speaker 3: other branches of the government and he'll say, all right, look,
Speaker 3: I really need some funding for this, and you'll if
Speaker 3: you'll let me use some of your equipment in the military,
Speaker 3: then I'll let you, you know, diddle the script a
Speaker 3: little bit, right, And so that's kind of what you
Speaker 3: what the telltale of how to look for it is
Speaker 3: whenever you see fucking blue angels in the sky, it's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: the government had a hand in writing this script in
Speaker 3: a sense, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I could see this one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: So the Hollywood and the Pentagon formalized their relationship in
Speaker 3: nineteen forty seven, and this is allegedly it was around
Speaker 3: that year. It's probably happening before that, but are allegedly
Speaker 3: around that.
Speaker 4: You're interesting the year of Roswell, Right, it is, But
Speaker 4: it also kind of makes sense, right, World War Two
Speaker 4: gets wrapped up, all the boys are home, and now
Speaker 4: all of these actors that were serving are now back
Speaker 4: in Hollywood. And this is also why I have such
Speaker 4: an issue with the Duke Old John Wayne. Okay, I
Speaker 4: used to love the guy until I found out he
Speaker 4: was a draft dodger. And the reason why he dodged
Speaker 4: the draft was because at that time he was an
Speaker 4: up and coming star and if he wouldn't have gotten drafted,
Speaker 4: basically all of the big names went to war, he
Speaker 4: was able to land big, big roles with no competition. Right,
Speaker 4: So cut to nineteen forty seven, All of those actors
Speaker 4: that were all fighting and shit are now back home,
Speaker 4: so it kind of makes sense that there'd be a
Speaker 4: little bit of some crossover. Not to mention, the great
Speaker 4: World War two just ended, bro, we can make all
Speaker 4: kinds of movies to show our boys and show the heroics,
Speaker 4: which was real. I'm not denying this, but like, it
Speaker 4: would make sense to me that the DoD would want
Speaker 4: things to be done in a certain way and cast
Speaker 4: in a certain light and with a certain flavor on
Speaker 4: it to make America even more proud beating their chest
Speaker 4: than ever before. It perfectly lines up to me.
Speaker 3: Now flip the script literally on that and look at
Speaker 3: it from a different angle.
Speaker 2: Was he a draft Dodger.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he probably didn't want to go, and you know,
Speaker 3: he probably went and you know, maybe asked the government
Speaker 3: to Hey, you know what, Look, I can be better
Speaker 3: on screen than I will in the battlefield. So let
Speaker 3: me just stay here and propagandaze for you a little bit.
Speaker 3: All eyes are going to be on me. I'm one
Speaker 3: of the biggest fucking names in all of Hollywood right now.
Speaker 3: And not just John Waite, many other actors probably did
Speaker 3: this as well. But I would imagine that there was
Speaker 3: probably some kind of agreement that was had right there,
Speaker 3: because I mean, yeah, I'm not I'm not, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to degrade a singular you know, army soldier or whatever,
Speaker 3: you know, branch that he would have gotten in. But
Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at it, the propaganda in
Speaker 3: the influence that he would have over millions of people
Speaker 3: as opposed to you know, maybe taking out one guy
Speaker 3: on the battlefield, if even that right, So you could
Speaker 3: almost imagine that they made some kind of deal. That's
Speaker 3: how it plays out in my mind, especially after looking
Speaker 3: through all this.
Speaker 4: It's possible.
Speaker 5: I've looked into the records of him because I didn't
Speaker 5: believe he was really a draft dodger. It was like
Speaker 5: some bullshit bone spur conversation that he he got the
Speaker 5: paper pushed through because he had the right person to
Speaker 5: sign off on it, so to speak. But I mean
Speaker 5: even still, you had like Jimmy Stewart, and you had
Speaker 5: these you had big names that were in all of
Speaker 5: the Westerns at the time who flew and dropped bombs
Speaker 5: on Nazi Germany and stuff like that. Like, yeah, they
Speaker 5: weren't like frontline in the trenches. A lot of them were,
Speaker 5: you know, college educated. So they went officer route and
Speaker 5: they went pilot and they went all.
Speaker 4: Of these things.
Speaker 5: But like, yeah, yeah, it's uh kind of shitty how
Speaker 5: he did it.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you because and this isn't a movie
Speaker 3: actor by any means, but this is somebody who you know,
Speaker 3: is very highly praised within the NFL, especially in Arizona.
Speaker 4: Berger.
Speaker 2: No, what are your thoughts on Pat Tillman.
Speaker 5: That's the one that's the one that died overseas? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think by friendly fire? Actually, massive piece of shit,
Speaker 5: That's what I am so, And this isn't I wasn't there.
Speaker 5: I do not know, okay, And I'm not trying to
Speaker 5: besmirch the man's legacy. But from what I was told
Speaker 5: from people that were not necessarily with that deployment but
Speaker 5: around the area at that time, Okay, he did walk
Speaker 5: away from millions of dollars of a contract to serve
Speaker 5: his nation when he was called upon, and I am
Speaker 5: not gonna shit on that whatsoever. From what I was
Speaker 5: given to understand, he also was very loud about the
Speaker 5: fact that he walked away from millions of dollars to
Speaker 5: serve his country, and he wanted everyone to know about it.
Speaker 5: Him being a celebrity also kind of put crosshairs on him.
Speaker 5: And I'm not sure of the ins and outs of
Speaker 5: the day where he actually was killed by you.
Speaker 4: Know, blue on blue or green on green, however you
Speaker 4: want to call it.
Speaker 5: I was given the understanding that that wasn't as much
Speaker 5: of an accident as what the news would have you believe,
Speaker 5: because he was also that guy, mister fucking cat America,
Speaker 5: who was going to go in and get back, but
Speaker 5: he was taking unnecessary risks that were put the rest
Speaker 5: of his squad and platoon in harm's way because he
Speaker 5: fell in love with his own legend and some some
Speaker 5: people would say that one of his h enlisted men
Speaker 5: were scared for their life if this guy continued to
Speaker 5: lead them, so they removed him from uh the battlefield.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's true or if it really
Speaker 5: was like a complete accidental ind or a negligent discharge
Speaker 5: if you will, and uh in just the worst possible scenario.
Speaker 4: Ever, I can only go off of reports that I heard.
Speaker 3: Friendly fire is considered neglible negligible dish discharge.
Speaker 2: Damn, I can't say that negligible.
Speaker 4: Damn, you fucking me up to nd. Okay, negligent discharge.
Speaker 5: Basically, what that means is you fire when you weren't
Speaker 5: supposed to fire. INDI's can happen anywhere. Anytime you watch
Speaker 5: some uh some video of a guy cleaning his gun
Speaker 5: and it goes off because I didn't know there was
Speaker 5: a round in it.
Speaker 4: But that that's called n D, right.
Speaker 5: So typically indies get shot into the wall and they
Speaker 5: scare the shit out of you. And sometimes you'll see
Speaker 5: someone shoot themselves in the leg on accident or something.
Speaker 5: But in the very worst case scenario, yes, an INDY
Speaker 5: can result in someone's death. I understand this, and very
Speaker 5: possibly it was something like that. I don't know the
Speaker 5: whole story, but from what I was given to understand
Speaker 5: by guys who were in and around the area, they
Speaker 5: were basically saying, They're like, yeah, he needed to go,
Speaker 5: and they weren't willing to sell out their boy. But
Speaker 5: they also were saying that he wasn't missed by anybody
Speaker 5: in his unit when he got got So I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh that's unfortunate. Well either way, all right, let's get
Speaker 3: back to it. So in nineteen forty seven, the US
Speaker 3: government officially created the Office of Public Information for the
Speaker 3: Pentagon and later the CIA's Office of Public Affairs, which
Speaker 3: liaises directly with filmmakers. From then on, any film that
Speaker 3: wanted to use military equipment, personnel, or sets had to
Speaker 3: submit scripts for approval and accept edits in exchange for support.
Speaker 3: So what was the first movie ever funded by the
Speaker 3: US government? That would be actually a very interesting one,
Speaker 3: very hotly debated kind of movie, especially for the time
Speaker 3: that it came out. But it was called The Birth
Speaker 3: of a Nation. You know this movie, right?
Speaker 7: I do.
Speaker 5: Indeed for anybody who doesn't know or do you have
Speaker 5: a little thing to read about it, yeah.
Speaker 2: I have a little thing, but you're aware of what
Speaker 2: it is, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is actually believe or not. The first film
Speaker 4: ever played in the White House.
Speaker 5: President at the time said it was the best movie
Speaker 5: he'd ever seen, never mind the fact that it was
Speaker 5: the only movie he'd ever seen.
Speaker 4: And you there's no two ways about this.
Speaker 5: This is a movie about the foundation of the Ku
Speaker 5: Klux Klan.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out which president that was, Woodrow Wilson. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: makes sense because he wasn't the best right.
Speaker 4: Kind of a piece of shit. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, Now, this Birth of a Nation and it
Speaker 3: came out in nineteen fifteen. It says it's unofficially backed
Speaker 3: with federal military resources. But if you're looking at you know,
Speaker 3: the writing on the wall, writing on the wall, as
Speaker 3: far as you know how to be able to determine
Speaker 3: if it's military funded or not, it's it's pretty obvious.
Speaker 3: But it was directed by this guy named D. W.
Speaker 2: Griffith.
Speaker 3: This was the first feature length blockbuster and a tool
Speaker 3: of a nationalistic propaganda. The US military loaned cannons, uniforms,
Speaker 3: and soldiers for the Civil War battle scenes. The purpose,
Speaker 3: which is quite interesting, was to promote national unity after
Speaker 3: the Civil War but it ended up. It ended up
Speaker 3: glorifying the Ku Klux Klan and demonizing Black Americans. The
Speaker 3: film is considered the origin of Hollywood propaganda. It created
Speaker 3: the blueprint use epic cinema, emotional hooks, and spectacle to
Speaker 3: shape public opinion.
Speaker 4: Wait wait, wait wait, I'm sorry. I'm gonna need you
Speaker 4: to pump the brakes on that one, big hoss.
Speaker 3: Okay, it was filmed to do what purpose? The purpose
Speaker 3: I'll read it again.
Speaker 4: Just that one part because it good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, to promote national unity after the Civil War.
Speaker 3: That was the original purpose. But it ended up gloryway,
Speaker 3: but it ended up glorifying, glorifying the KKK, and demonizing
Speaker 3: Black Americans.
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen the movie?
Speaker 3: No, it is like for the little clips and shit
Speaker 3: of it, but no, I've never seen the whole movie.
Speaker 5: For the principle of education, it is worth watching it is.
Speaker 5: This was completely done to recruit more men into the
Speaker 5: Ku Klux Klan. There's no section of this movie where
Speaker 5: you at any point, maybe in the very beginning, where
Speaker 5: you see the Congress passes and you see black men
Speaker 5: shaking hands proud that they are now going to.
Speaker 4: Be considered citizens. That is a five second clip where
Speaker 4: maybe you could argue it was to give national pride.
Speaker 4: Then you pan.
Speaker 5: Up up and see the white men pissed off that
Speaker 5: that just happened. And then from that point onward it
Speaker 5: was a recruiting tool strictly to get dudes to join
Speaker 5: the Klan. There no, not even one section of this
Speaker 5: after that one spot was meant to give any kind
Speaker 5: of national pride.
Speaker 4: That's that's fucking retarded.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to find out right now. As far as
Speaker 3: oh shocker, Woodrow Wilson, yes, he was a Democrat, of course,
Speaker 3: of course, because they always say, well, they always say that,
Speaker 3: you know, it was essentially the Democrats that created the KKK.
Speaker 4: Right, very very true.
Speaker 3: Literally, this Democrat president in nineteen fifteen played this fucking
Speaker 3: movie in the White House and it was funded, It
Speaker 3: had government backing to be able to push propaganda. And
Speaker 3: it's almost like, because here's the thing, you can't just
Speaker 3: like say, let's say you're the director of that movie,
Speaker 3: Old d W.
Speaker 2: Griffith. You can't just say, all.
Speaker 3: Right, you know, look if you want to add in
Speaker 3: a couple of things whatever, and then you know, whenever
Speaker 3: the movie's out, you'll be able to see it. No,
Speaker 3: like you have to go from start to finish with
Speaker 3: the entire script and the entire you know, full length
Speaker 3: of the movie and describe it to the government. According
Speaker 3: to this, they have to see it first before it's
Speaker 3: ever released if it's government backed. And so what Jrow
Speaker 3: Wilson and the government completely approved of every scene in
Speaker 3: that movie.
Speaker 4: I will say it was a silent film.
Speaker 5: So as far as the script goes, it was like
Speaker 5: the words on screen, then it would cut to a
Speaker 5: clip of.
Speaker 3: Actually just ree but you know what I'm trying to say,
Speaker 3: everything that transpired in the movie, every scene and all that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, nineteen fifteen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the president being like, this is the greatest movie
Speaker 5: I've ever seen in my life. And it's like, minister President,
Speaker 5: you've never seen a movie in your life. But okay, cool, dope,
Speaker 5: And this is a yeah. No, this was not in
Speaker 5: any way, shape or form to give pride of the
Speaker 5: nation of America.
Speaker 4: It was the birth of a clan nation. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 3: So it is the origin of Hollywood propaganda and it
Speaker 3: just so happened to coincide with government backing.
Speaker 2: So if you're ever trying.
Speaker 3: To wonder, like, oh my god, who are these satanic,
Speaker 3: fucking weirdos that are running Hollywood? Maybe look no farther
Speaker 3: than our own government that is pushing it. And not
Speaker 3: in every case, of course, but in a lot of
Speaker 3: cases it seems that way.
Speaker 2: So, uh, now we're gonna move on.
Speaker 4: Have you ever you've seen clips of it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, you want to hear some clips of it?
Speaker 4: I was just thinking that the entire movies on YouTube.
Speaker 5: I'm not We're not gonna watch a whole movie of it,
Speaker 5: but yeah, the let's see where is where are some
Speaker 5: clips from this absolute debacle?
Speaker 2: Let's see obviously black and white?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, it's black and white. Okay, here we
Speaker 5: go those two and a half minutes of it. As
Speaker 5: a matter of fact, all right, let me uh let
Speaker 5: me share the screen, good sir.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, my fine gentlemen.
Speaker 5: For anybody again that would like to see this, come
Speaker 5: check us out on Patreon. That is where we play
Speaker 5: all of our witches and things in the riot, the
Speaker 5: riot in Masters Hall, Masters Hall, go ahead, put in
Speaker 5: that one.
Speaker 3: The Negro party in control in the State of House
Speaker 3: of Representatives, one hundred and one blacks against twenty three whites.
Speaker 3: The session of eighteen seventy one and historical festimile of
Speaker 3: the State facimile. Excuse me, wow fastile.
Speaker 5: I read it like I read it of the State
Speaker 5: House of Representatives of South Carolina as it was in
Speaker 5: eighteen seventy after photographed by the Columbia State.
Speaker 4: All right, here we go, music kind of loud on it.
Speaker 3: Historic incidents from the first legislative session under reconstruction.
Speaker 4: And you see, these are all white people wearing black face.
Speaker 5: By the way, there's no black actors in this movie,
Speaker 5: because that they would have to pay the black actors.
Speaker 5: You're gonna pay a black person? You out of your
Speaker 5: mind in nineteen fifty. No, No, these are all white
Speaker 5: people wearing black face. Oh my god, you'll see it more.
Speaker 4: You'll let it play through because we got to talk
Speaker 4: through it anyway to describe it to the listeners.
Speaker 2: No, I think these are black That is that is
Speaker 2: a black guy, dove that.
Speaker 4: Flipping a little whiskey eating a turkey leg.
Speaker 3: You can definitely tell that some of them are black face,
Speaker 3: though not all of them are black people.
Speaker 2: Like who the flick of the fucking guy.
Speaker 4: Bro, Look at him waving around a chicken leg.
Speaker 3: The speaker rules that all members must wear shoes.
Speaker 2: That particulous, Like, yeah, ridiculous. Wow. Yeah, they're really making
Speaker 2: him look like clowns in.
Speaker 4: Here, which that was the purpose it has moved and.
Speaker 3: Terry that all whites must salute Negro officers on the streets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well we got our fix of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, let me see if it goes any
Speaker 4: further here. Oh yeah, okay, So here's where the scene
Speaker 4: where it passes and all they're like yay, and then
Speaker 4: you look up.
Speaker 2: And see all the white people are like, oh this hell.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 4: Then it cuts to uh, what's his name?
Speaker 5: Oh u Wilford Buford, Forrest or whatever the fuck, the
Speaker 5: guy who created the clan, and he's scared the hell
Speaker 5: out some black kids with a sheet over him, and
Speaker 5: then he's got a really good idea and they just
Speaker 5: become the ghosts of the night, protect the white women
Speaker 5: and children from a negra.
Speaker 4: It was completely disgusting.
Speaker 3: First movie propagated by the American government, right, the first.
Speaker 4: Movie ever played in the White House.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the next one, it wouldn't come out until
Speaker 3: twelve years later. And you're probably aware of this movie.
Speaker 3: It's called Wings, and it was the first official DoD collaboration,
Speaker 3: so the other one was unofficial. This is the first
Speaker 3: official collaborative effort between Hollywood and the DoD. It was
Speaker 3: a silent film about World War One pilots and it
Speaker 3: was funded and produced with US Army Air Corps support
Speaker 3: via planes and bases and personnel. The purpose of the
Speaker 3: movie was to boost military aviation's image and encourage enlistment
Speaker 3: between wars. So that's all we got on that one
Speaker 3: so far. We're gonna get a little bit more in
Speaker 3: depth for some of these movies, but this is kind
Speaker 3: of just an overview to start.
Speaker 4: Wings is a cool one.
Speaker 5: Whenever you look at some of the pilots and what
Speaker 5: they were doing, it wasn't all done with the screen
Speaker 5: behind them. Some of this was like death defying stunts
Speaker 5: that was being done by stuntmen that like. Especially you
Speaker 5: look back at the old silent films of stunt that
Speaker 5: were happening. It's insane and you understand why stuntman died
Speaker 5: so frequently. Yeah, it's a it's one of those is
Speaker 5: why not a lot of people these days probably never
Speaker 5: seen the movie.
Speaker 4: I recommend it. It's pretty dope.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, here is the movie poster The UH from
Speaker 3: nineteen twenty seven with Clara Bow Yeah, Charles Buddy Rogers,
Speaker 3: Richard Arlin, and Gary Cooper. So yeah, you could see
Speaker 3: how this was absolutely pushing forth some kind of agenda, right.
Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, dude. I mean World War One pilots, we're
Speaker 4: talking biplanes like that was.
Speaker 5: Those dudes are out of the fucking mind. I wish
Speaker 5: I could have been a part of that, because.
Speaker 4: That's super fucking cool to me. But also like they
Speaker 4: got a couple screws loose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a million airhard type of shit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And like these dudes are flying and essentially what
Speaker 5: you could call he like souped up hot rod with
Speaker 5: wings on it like that. That's all it was is
Speaker 5: a big ass fan on the front of their plane.
Speaker 4: And there they have enough.
Speaker 5: They have two wings, and that's the only way they
Speaker 5: can get enough lift is with two of them. One
Speaker 5: of them isn't enough yet. They haven't gotten that fast yet.
Speaker 5: And they're just doing that with a machine gun, and
Speaker 5: they're just like, all right, we'll just we'll just fight
Speaker 5: it out in the sky and see which one's got
Speaker 5: better control of his plane. Man, it's fucking wild. If
Speaker 5: anybody has ever played the movie or not the game
Speaker 5: war Thunder. They do a pretty good job of showing
Speaker 5: how these planes actually maneuvered in combat scenarios.
Speaker 4: It is fucking wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and speaking of Amelia Airhart and almost reminds me
Speaker 3: not in a negative kind of way, but just a
Speaker 3: woman flying a plane, you dude, And this is this
Speaker 3: might have to be a show that we do one
Speaker 3: of these days. But you've heard of Helen Keller flying
Speaker 3: a fucking plane.
Speaker 4: The blind and death chick from the Civil War.
Speaker 2: She flew a fucking plane allegedly, are.
Speaker 4: We talking of? Like she had her hand on the
Speaker 4: stick for a few seconds and then she let go.
Speaker 3: Dumb, deaf and blind Helen Keller in nineteen forty six
Speaker 3: piloted a plane for twenty minutes while traveling from Rome
Speaker 3: to Paris with her interpreter, Polly Thompson relaying the pilot's
Speaker 3: instructions to her. Despite being deaf and blind, Keller demonstrated
Speaker 3: remarkable control and calmness while flying.
Speaker 4: Because she had no concept of what would happen if
Speaker 4: she knows though she didn't know what that was, like, Okay, yup, wow,
Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: She might not have been deaf and blind.
Speaker 3: Now, dude, you know what I'm saying, because what was
Speaker 3: the what's the fucking the musician, Not Ray Charles, the
Speaker 3: other one that's that's blind.
Speaker 4: Oh, Ray Charles ain't blind. Oh I tell about Stevie Wonder.
Speaker 4: Stevie Wonder. Yeah the shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of speculation that he's probably
Speaker 3: not blind. And it's kind of all for show. So
Speaker 3: it almost makes me wonder if Helen Keller was on
Speaker 3: some shit like that. I don't know, you know, actually,
Speaker 3: back whenever I was in elementary school, we had Helen
Speaker 3: Keller's sister or mom or something show up to our
Speaker 3: class and she was.
Speaker 4: Having to be like her great granddaughter or something or like.
Speaker 3: Niece is somebody related to her? I don't know, but anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 3: actually I think you're right. I think it was her
Speaker 3: niece or something like that. But but she came because
Speaker 3: I guess she wrote a book about Helen Keller or whatever.
Speaker 3: And she was talking about, you know, all the things
Speaker 3: about why you should love each other as you would
Speaker 3: like to an elementary school and she was telling us
Speaker 3: all about her, and I was like, dude, fucking that's
Speaker 3: that's kind of wild.
Speaker 2: I don't remember her.
Speaker 3: Saying that Helen Keller flew an airplane, but also I
Speaker 3: was like ten whenever, you know, or eight or something
Speaker 3: like that whenever she came.
Speaker 5: So really, we just imagine the pilot being like, all right,
Speaker 5: we're gonna get this bitch so high up in the
Speaker 5: air that there's no way that she could like fuck
Speaker 5: this up and just let her kind of we we
Speaker 5: just kind of do whatever for a little bit, never
Speaker 5: gonna land it, and there you go.
Speaker 4: Anybody could fly, even Helen Keller could fly. Yeah I could.
Speaker 4: I could see that for the propaganda.
Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, like her instructor is like, all right, Helen,
Speaker 3: just just grab the wheel rad here and just just
Speaker 3: coast a little bit. And she's like, I ain't even blind, motherfucker,
Speaker 3: we knowing barrel rolls, you know.
Speaker 2: It just starts going crazy up there.
Speaker 3: And the guy's like, oh my god, I'm I'm gonna
Speaker 3: die now, all because I was manipulated and think you
Speaker 3: were a blind old bitch. Turns out she wasn't. But
Speaker 3: it's still interesting that she was flying a plane though.
Speaker 4: I'd never heard of that one. That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, all right, So here's a list of notable movies,
Speaker 3: not all of We're not going to talk about every
Speaker 3: single one of them, because there's literally been tens of
Speaker 3: thousands of movies that were funded by the government, but
Speaker 3: some of the are more notable ones we're going to
Speaker 3: be bringing up that were either funded, supported, or heavily
Speaker 3: influenced by the US government, especially the DoD. So the
Speaker 3: first list is going to be military and do OD
Speaker 3: supported films. These films receive funding, equipment, script approval, or
Speaker 3: logistical support from the Pentagon. Specific first one, nineteen eighty six,
Speaker 3: Top Gun comes out right absolutely. It was co produced
Speaker 3: with US Navy support, and recruitment soared after its release.
Speaker 4: And we're going to my buddies used to work with.
Speaker 5: We're actually on the plane or in the on the
Speaker 5: ship in one of the opening scenes like of the
Speaker 5: movie when danger Zone is playing and they're like, you know,
Speaker 5: when he's taken off, you could see him for a
Speaker 5: split second.
Speaker 4: He was one of the flight crew.
Speaker 2: Oh that's sick.
Speaker 5: And he was actually in the Navy at that time
Speaker 5: because they used a real naval ship for that scene.
Speaker 3: I was an extra in twenty one Jump Street. Anybody
Speaker 3: can see me on there for like five seconds. I'm
Speaker 3: hanging out with this little black shauty and that's my
Speaker 3: girlfriend for the movie. And I got her up against
Speaker 3: the locker and I'm just like, you know, risen her up, dude,
Speaker 3: And and you could see it literally for five seconds
Speaker 3: in the beginning of the movie Whenever Chanting Long here
Speaker 3: and you know, Jonah Hill had fucking his whole eminem phase.
Speaker 2: It was pretty fun.
Speaker 5: I needed you to show me that one of these days.
Speaker 5: I've heard you say this, I've actually never seen you
Speaker 5: in it. I've never looked. So we're gonna have to
Speaker 5: figure this out one day.
Speaker 3: Its back whenever I had a baby face. I couldn't
Speaker 3: even grow facial hair yet, dude, I couldn't even swoop. No,
Speaker 3: I think I had short hair, but yeah, this was dude.
Speaker 3: I couldn't even grow a beard until I was like
Speaker 3: twenty five.
Speaker 4: Dude. Yeah, same pretty much.
Speaker 3: But anyhow, so we're kind of just going to burn
Speaker 3: through this list and then we're gonna go a little
Speaker 3: bit more in depth here in a minute. So first off,
Speaker 3: Top Gun. The next one Top Gun Maverick, which came
Speaker 3: out in twenty twenty two. These are in no specific
Speaker 3: order as far as you know the release.
Speaker 2: Dates or anything.
Speaker 3: So once again with Maverick, they used navy jets and
Speaker 3: carriers and the script reviewed and it was reviewed and
Speaker 3: influenced by the DoD obviously. The next one, probably not
Speaker 3: going to surprise you, is Transformers. All the movies of
Speaker 3: Transformers yep. So Transformers first one came out in two
Speaker 3: thousand and seven, they're still making them, and the Pentagon
Speaker 3: in military hardware provided in exchange for script oversight. So interesting.
Speaker 3: Next one being iron Man, the first one in two
Speaker 3: thousand and eight, and the more I looked into it,
Speaker 3: the first one they absolutely approved. The second one, I
Speaker 3: guess they started wanting to do their own thing and
Speaker 3: not want so much military whatever messing around with as
Speaker 3: far as the script goes. And then they eventually ended
Speaker 3: up losing the military support and stuff like that, which
Speaker 3: I think that they probably overall, just Disney and Marvel
Speaker 3: altogether probably still collectively get that funding. But as for
Speaker 3: Iron Man, I from what I read, they eventually ended
Speaker 3: up going off script, and yeah, they ended.
Speaker 5: Up making sense Stark Industries being the military supplier that
Speaker 5: it was in the movie. In the first one like
Speaker 5: that was that was the push, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: The second one you had kind of something to be
Speaker 5: said for that third one that wasn't even a conversation,
Speaker 5: so I could understand this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So in Iron Man, the first one, it says it
Speaker 3: received military assistance, though later Marvel had tensions with the
Speaker 3: DoD for sequels. As I was saying, next one, you
Speaker 3: got Captain Marvel, which one of the worst Marvel movies
Speaker 3: of all time.
Speaker 4: It makes sense because wasn't she a pilot?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Captain Marvel came out in twenty nineteen. It
Speaker 3: was produced in cooperation with the US Air Force as
Speaker 3: a recruitment tool for women.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, which, again, the actual Captain Marvel was a guy.
Speaker 5: Captain Marvel didn't become a girl until he died and
Speaker 5: his wife took over. But it was well after he
Speaker 5: had already made it what it was. If we're going
Speaker 5: to go off to the comic books, but don't let
Speaker 5: Disney find that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know what's funny too, is you know how we
Speaker 3: always like bring up about how, you know, they made
Speaker 3: Little Mermaid black or they made fucking snow white whatever,
Speaker 3: she was right, and it's like, why are they doing that.
Speaker 3: Why are they doing that? It seems almost like they're
Speaker 3: just they know that they're going to cause a lot
Speaker 3: of you know, tension in between races and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: You know what I just read And I may have
Speaker 3: said this already, but I can't remember. Fucking So, your
Speaker 3: boy Chadwick Boseman, who's the original black panther, right, he
Speaker 3: died and he actually knew whenever he was filming that
Speaker 3: movie that he only had a little bit longer to go.
Speaker 3: So poor guy. He was like, I'm I'm gonna die
Speaker 3: after this, and everybody thought that he was joking or
Speaker 3: like just being extra.
Speaker 5: And then you know, they talk so much about him
Speaker 5: losing weight and how he looked this way, and then
Speaker 5: later they realize like, oh god, because he was dying
Speaker 5: the whole time.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, don't you feel shitty?
Speaker 3: I know, dude, I love that guy too. He's such
Speaker 3: a good, good character. But now they're talking about bringing
Speaker 3: a white black panther, right, Okay, So I for the record,
Speaker 3: you know who they're talking about him playing that character
Speaker 3: is fucking Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 4: Shut up.
Speaker 2: I swear, I swear.
Speaker 5: All right for everybody out there, I will be so
Speaker 5: fucking pissed for making a white black Panther just as
Speaker 5: much as I'd be pi just about them making a
Speaker 5: Mexican snow white. That's fucking stupid and insulting, like stop it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, allegedly it is written in the script,
Speaker 3: like in all the comic books that eventually, once the
Speaker 3: Black Panther dies, there is a white guy who is
Speaker 3: in Wakanda and ends up fighting. I think he ends
Speaker 3: up like fighting and defeating the original Black Panther, And
Speaker 3: so then whenever he goes to take his mask off,
Speaker 3: he's a white guy with blonde hair and really white skin,
Speaker 3: and everybody's taken my surprise and everything. So look after that,
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's gonna be some controversy with that for sure.
Speaker 5: Oh now we're gonna stick to the comic book script, Disney,
Speaker 5: Now we're gonna do that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what the fuck ever? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So uh yeah, you got Captain Marvel trying to recruit
Speaker 3: women to the Air Force. Then Blackhawk Down came out
Speaker 3: in two thousand and one, heavily supported by the DoD,
Speaker 3: aimed to sanitize a controversial military operation.
Speaker 2: Which one was that controversial operation.
Speaker 4: That would be the US's involvement in some.
Speaker 5: So backstory to that one, and we're not gonna spend
Speaker 5: too much time talking about it. Somalia had some shit
Speaker 5: going on, okay, they which they always do, they currently
Speaker 5: do as a matter of fact, and the local warlords
Speaker 5: started using hunger as a weapon against his people. We
Speaker 5: had you and peacekeepers that were going in. Well, first off,
Speaker 5: it was humanitarian aid groups that were going in, like
Speaker 5: delivering food to the masses. Then these food shipments were
Speaker 5: being intercepted by the warlord's goons and he was withholding
Speaker 5: it strictly to starve out the population into submission.
Speaker 4: So then you and peace forces went in. The blue hats.
Speaker 5: They went in and they were trying to establish some
Speaker 5: sort of peace in the region. Didn't go well, so
Speaker 5: then they sent in the United States Marines. Peace was
Speaker 5: established within a few weeks, like because Marines only do
Speaker 5: one thing, really, really well, and that's what happened. The
Speaker 5: Marines were pulled back, and then you had an army
Speaker 5: unit that was there to assist in the UN peacekeeping operations.
Speaker 5: They went out one day just as a patrol and
Speaker 5: they weren't supposed to be gone long. Hell, half the
Speaker 5: guys didn't even have all of their plates in their
Speaker 5: plate carriers, Like they didn't expect to take fire because
Speaker 5: like what idiot would shoot at US soldiers like real talk.
Speaker 5: Then a black Hawk went down because it got hit
Speaker 5: with the lucky hit from an RPG, And it was
Speaker 5: an entire it was one snafoo after another in a
Speaker 5: rescue operation. And yeah, it was a fucking it's an
Speaker 5: insane movie, all of it based on a true story.
Speaker 5: The guys who were there actually will go and talk
Speaker 5: about this later on in interviews and things. Two of
Speaker 5: them I saw went back to is it alac Bar
Speaker 5: Bizarre basically the big shopping bazar where like the real
Speaker 5: firefight took place. They went back there and realized where
Speaker 5: they were. You can still see the bullet strafs in
Speaker 5: the buildings from where they were there.
Speaker 4: All the way through.
Speaker 5: They ended up having to run what was called the
Speaker 5: Mogadishu Mile because there were no more vics that were
Speaker 5: able to come get them, and these dudes with all
Speaker 5: their gears shot up and everything else, had to run
Speaker 5: on foot back to safety from the fucking mob.
Speaker 4: It's an insane story.
Speaker 3: Wow, All right, Well that's the DoD aiming to sanitize
Speaker 3: a controversial military operation. Black Hawk Down came out in
Speaker 3: two thousand and one. I can't help it, but every
Speaker 3: time I hear black hawk Down, I think of fucking
Speaker 3: Jennifer Aniston and we're the Miller's where she's like, black
Speaker 3: cock Down.
Speaker 2: Black cock Down.
Speaker 4: I didn't know where you were going with that, but god,
Speaker 4: I forgot about that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were playing like charades or some shit.
Speaker 4: Oh my god. All right.
Speaker 3: The next one we got is The Lone Survivor, came
Speaker 3: out in twenty thirteen, supported by the Navy, Seals and
Speaker 3: DoD and it was intended to valorize a failed Afghanistan mission.
Speaker 5: That one's also riddle with controversy. I'm not trying to
Speaker 5: talk shit on Marclus Latrell. A lot of people in
Speaker 5: the special forces community have said that.
Speaker 4: That movie is a lie, a lie.
Speaker 5: It's yep, that's one of the most things that has
Speaker 5: ever come out.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you got the Navy Seals and the
Speaker 3: DD looking to you know, put their two cents in
Speaker 3: that movie, and I would imagine it was probably closer
Speaker 3: to ninety eight cents as opposed to two cents.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, when you only get one guy that
Speaker 5: comes home and his story is the only one that
Speaker 5: you can go off of, and his story has changed
Speaker 5: like thirty times. You know, some people might start to
Speaker 5: say that the story stinks to high heavens. I w
Speaker 5: wasn't there. I don't know, Marcus. With the information I've
Speaker 5: looked up, I was like, ooh, this is.
Speaker 4: Dirty, dirty, and I'm gonna put that info right back
Speaker 4: where I found it. We're just gonna walk away from
Speaker 4: this one.
Speaker 2: So very much like John McCain.
Speaker 4: Then, no, no, McCain fucked over his boys like.
Speaker 2: One of the only ones that came back though, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But then when he got back and he knew
Speaker 5: there were still hundreds of guys that were over there,
Speaker 5: he went ahead and like wiped their their records and
Speaker 5: their call numbers and all these call signs. Latrell didn't
Speaker 5: do that because his team, like all of them did
Speaker 5: get got like he was the only one that made
Speaker 5: it out and.
Speaker 4: All these things. But it's like some would say, this
Speaker 4: is not Jacob's words. Don't don't come at Jacob for
Speaker 4: this one. Uh.
Speaker 5: Some would say that he Fisherman storied it pretty much
Speaker 5: start to finish to make him look in the best
Speaker 5: light possible, you know, I don't know. Yeah, he wanted
Speaker 5: to get that purple heart. Oh, I mean he was
Speaker 5: getting that anyway. He was shot, like he was. If
Speaker 5: you make it out alive, you're getting a.
Speaker 4: Purple heart from from getting injured in some way from
Speaker 4: the enemy.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't that.
Speaker 4: It's like even the voting that okay, you know, I'll
Speaker 4: spend ten seconds on this. Have you ever seen the movie? Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean it has been a win minute
Speaker 3: and I don't really remember it, but yeah.
Speaker 4: Very early in the movie, you got the kid and
Speaker 4: the dad or whatever they like, the goat herders, and
Speaker 4: they're like debating what should they do with them?
Speaker 5: And if they let them go, they'll just go tell
Speaker 5: the bad guys where we are. We'll take a vote
Speaker 5: on it all in favor. No, the fuck you wouldn't know.
Speaker 5: The fuck you wouldn't The commander, the highest in charge
Speaker 5: would say this is what we're doing, and that would
Speaker 5: be that end of conversation period, fucking period. There would
Speaker 5: be no voting on a consensus for everybody. We're all
Speaker 5: equal here, we're gonna get the fir No, the fuck
Speaker 5: you would not. It's incorrect and then obviously, what do
Speaker 5: you think is gonna happen when you release.
Speaker 4: This kid that you just caught.
Speaker 5: You think he's just gonna be like, dude, to do
Speaker 5: Americans are here, I'm just gonna mind my business. No, No,
Speaker 5: I'm not saying they should have killed the kid. I'm
Speaker 5: not saying they shouldn't have killed the kid. I wasn't there,
Speaker 5: but I'm just saying, right off the rip, it already
Speaker 5: is smelling like some bullshit.
Speaker 4: And there's been numerous podcasts.
Speaker 5: That have come out actually calling out stolen valor uh
Speaker 5: like Tim Kennedy for instance, He has been getting called
Speaker 5: out a lot lately for these quote unquote stories that
Speaker 5: he has gone on and you know, made himself famous
Speaker 5: for talking about where people that were stationed with him
Speaker 5: and were on these operations are saying.
Speaker 4: No, you didn't do that, That's not what happened. What
Speaker 4: the fuck are you talking about? People?
Speaker 5: Those same groups are have been calling out Marcus Latrell
Speaker 5: for these things.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I was just looking at pictures and yeah
Speaker 3: it's I remember now because Mark Wahlberg was in it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Marky Mark was the boy and your boy fucking what's
Speaker 3: his name? Taylor, kitch. You know who that is?
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, he was. He was also in it.
Speaker 3: But he was in my one of my favorite movies
Speaker 3: of all time, which is called, uh John Carter. I
Speaker 3: think it's a Disney movie where he goes like teleports
Speaker 3: to Mars and shit, fucking awesome movie. But then you
Speaker 3: find out so he was also Oh god, what's.
Speaker 4: The he was Alexander super Tramp.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't seen that one, but what's the the
Speaker 3: card guy in in Marvel I can't think of what
Speaker 3: his name.
Speaker 4: Oh you're talking about Gambit Gambit, Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh
Speaker 4: Channing Tatum with a bullshit Cajun accent. Well, he was
Speaker 4: the original Gambit in like Wolverine, in one of the
Speaker 4: Wolverine movies, and he was awesome. But yeah, then you
Speaker 4: find out that fucking he got wrapped up in all
Speaker 4: that pedal shit too, and it's like, fuck Danny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I heard.
Speaker 3: I mean I can't I can't verify it, but that's
Speaker 3: what I heard that he was like deeply involved in that.
Speaker 2: That's why he wasn't in movies or anything for the
Speaker 2: longest time.
Speaker 4: I thought he just walked away.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know he was in Lords of Dogtown, Like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I like him as an actor.
Speaker 4: I didn't know he was about them diddling of the children.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, unfortunate. Don't meet your heroes unless you were
Speaker 3: some good cult members who came to bro Grove and
Speaker 3: you got to meet. Well, I'm not gonna say we're
Speaker 3: your heroes by any means. We're just regular fucking people.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna suck my own dick that hard. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it was cool hanging out with some of the good
Speaker 3: cult members. But anyway, So the next movie we're gonna
Speaker 3: talk about after Loan Survivor is Active Valor.
Speaker 5: See that one, hm, And now when they actually used
Speaker 5: real Navy seals to act out these roles, So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 5: you could the level of DoD unison that was had
Speaker 5: with the director. I mean you can't separate on this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Active Valor came out in twenty twelve, featured active
Speaker 3: duty Navy seals, and it was funded and co produced
Speaker 3: by the US Navy. And we're gonna get deeper, as
Speaker 3: I said, on a lot of these, but we're just
Speaker 3: kind of going over the the some of the movies.
Speaker 3: We got fifteen movies. We're gonna be talking about. So yeah,
Speaker 3: you got actave Valor. Next one came out in two
Speaker 3: thousand and eight, is The hurt Locker. It received military support,
Speaker 3: though later criticized for dramatizing certain events.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I liked the movie the first time
Speaker 4: I seen it. It's just, you know, I couldn't watch
Speaker 4: for more than five minutes without calling bullshit on it.
Speaker 4: Like the the.
Speaker 5: EOD guys, the Explosive Ordnance Disposal dudes are psychos.
Speaker 4: Not gonna deny that.
Speaker 5: And I mean that with all love and respect to
Speaker 5: all my EOD brothers out there. Y'all are fucking crazy,
Speaker 5: but you're the craziest that we need. Okay that being said,
Speaker 5: never ever, fucking ever will there be a d D
Speaker 5: team that is used in a counter sniper operation.
Speaker 4: That's that is preposterous out loud. But yeah, that was
Speaker 4: like a fucking third of the movie was them trying
Speaker 4: to find some sniper. It's like, you are a bomb diffuser?
Speaker 4: What are you doing? Stop it?
Speaker 3: It's pretty fucked up movie, wasn't it. I'm trying to
Speaker 3: remember who are the actors in that?
Speaker 4: Uh your boy that played Hawkeye?
Speaker 3: Oh, uh, Jeremy sa guy, Yeah, yeah, at job.
Speaker 2: Did you hear about him like recently over the past year.
Speaker 4: Oh God, what did he do?
Speaker 2: Dude?
Speaker 3: He got he was like up in the mountain somewhere
Speaker 3: and he was out like riding his snowmobile or some shit,
Speaker 3: and fucking it got away from and and it fucking
Speaker 3: ran over his entire body. Bro like crushed his head,
Speaker 3: like fucked his spine up. And I don't I think
Speaker 3: his spine was okay, but he like, dude, he couldn't
Speaker 3: walk for over a year and he was in rehab
Speaker 3: and all that shit. He's back to like full fledged,
Speaker 3: but his entire fucking body was broken.
Speaker 4: Fuck, I didn't hear about that.
Speaker 2: Jeremy Renner, that's his name.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love that guy, mainly because he's from Pittsburgh, So
Speaker 3: shout out to my Homi.
Speaker 4: Now, I will say he did a great job with
Speaker 4: the role.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's not like he had some sort of
Speaker 5: creative control over the script or the character any of
Speaker 5: these things. But in the movie was it did a
Speaker 5: good job of showing how fucked up the global War
Speaker 5: on Terror was. Like they were looking for bomb makers
Speaker 5: at one point in time, and this kid that he
Speaker 5: was buying things from come to find out was like
Speaker 5: his dad was helping fund the bomb maker in a way,
Speaker 5: and he had to go and do all these things
Speaker 5: and try to save this kid. And it was then
Speaker 5: he had to fucking fight with this guy who had
Speaker 5: a suicide vest on with like thirty locks on on it,
Speaker 5: and the timer was going down and like he was
Speaker 5: trying to break him off, but he couldn't, so he
Speaker 5: had to run away. So, I mean, the guy wouldn't
Speaker 5: hurt anybody else except himself, and he didn't want to
Speaker 5: be a suicide bomber. He was rigged up with a
Speaker 5: metal vest on and this whole Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 5: it showed how dirty this war really was from the
Speaker 5: perspective of somebody boots on the ground.
Speaker 4: And that was cool.
Speaker 5: But there was so many things they got wrong with
Speaker 5: the movie that it was silly.
Speaker 3: Look at the movie poster, it says a near perfect movie.
Speaker 4: Wow, okay, that's that is one of the most opinions
Speaker 4: that someone has ever had.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know your boy Anthony mackew was in it.
Speaker 3: Old Captain America, Yeah he was.
Speaker 5: He fought with Jeremy a lot in the movie, trying
Speaker 5: to tell him, well, you can't do it that way
Speaker 5: that they were trying to defuse a bomb in the
Speaker 5: back of a car and the dude had his whole
Speaker 5: EOD suit on and he walks up and he sees
Speaker 5: it and he's like, fuck this.
Speaker 4: He goes and walks away and takes all his I
Speaker 4: was like, that's not protocol. You can't take it off.
Speaker 4: He's like, there's enough explosives in that car to where
Speaker 4: if it goes off, we're all meeting Jesus. Okay, if
Speaker 4: we're gonna die today, I'm not dying. Uncomfortable. Fuck you.
Speaker 4: And he went and defused the bomb and stuff.
Speaker 5: But yeah, he was His role was more of the
Speaker 5: street laced soldier follow orders and it's like, okay, please
Speaker 5: shut the fuck up.
Speaker 4: This is e O D. They're gonna do what they
Speaker 4: need to do and you're gonna fuck off with it.
Speaker 2: I love him as an actor though.
Speaker 3: Anthony Mackie if you remember he was in eight Mile
Speaker 3: you know that, and Eminem was like and Clarence's parents
Speaker 3: have a real good marriage, and he was Clarence. Remember
Speaker 3: he was also in an episode of Black Mirror where
Speaker 3: him and his like best friend were uh it was
Speaker 3: like a virtual reality video game, right, and they were
Speaker 3: playing like this like a Teken or you know, a
Speaker 3: street fighter kind of game. But it was them in
Speaker 3: the fucking video game, or at least that's what their
Speaker 3: mind would have them believe, with the you know, video
Speaker 3: game rig that they had on their temple. And so
Speaker 3: they're in the door.
Speaker 4: They started fucking because they went to a different game.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I seen clips of that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Wow, I liked him in the movie We Are
Speaker 4: Marshall though. I did a really good job with that
Speaker 4: movie too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good movie.
Speaker 3: Nextly, after the hurt Locker, we have in twenty twelve
Speaker 3: zero Dark thirty, which was a CIA collaboration and it
Speaker 3: gave filmmakers access to classified information which was deemed controversial.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's the story of how Killery and Benghazi
Speaker 5: and that whole situation went down. The movie specifically got
Speaker 5: certain things wrong, but they also had when they say
Speaker 5: like classified information, they had some that they used for
Speaker 5: the movie.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they kind.
Speaker 5: Of left some really key details out because twenty twelve, right,
Speaker 5: this is before Killery was running for presidential office, and
Speaker 5: they couldn't say which politician just got out the phone
Speaker 5: and said to stand down, and they couldn't say where
Speaker 5: they had gotten the command from and all these things.
Speaker 4: But like everybody watching the movie knows who they're referring to.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: That was fucking mess.
Speaker 3: Had your boy Joel Egerton in it, which was in
Speaker 3: Warrior with Tom Hardy loved that movie, yep. And Chris
Speaker 3: Pratt was in it too.
Speaker 5: He was he wasn't he was playing one of the seals.
Speaker 5: So was uh your boy from the Office, old Jim.
Speaker 5: Oh uh yeah, yeah, yeah, I forget that was the movie.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 5: He's been in a couple of military movies. Actually, I
Speaker 5: want to say, shit, was it dear?
Speaker 4: No, No, it wasn't because there was two guys from
Speaker 4: the Office that both played seals.
Speaker 5: It was him and the other guy that Pam was
Speaker 5: trying to hook up with at one point in time,
Speaker 5: and they both were playing seals in a movie.
Speaker 4: But that wasn't it.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I've seen The Office so many fucking times
Speaker 3: I can't watch another episode of it, Like I just
Speaker 3: can't do it. It's it's too much. I've seen every episode.
Speaker 3: I could damn near like say every word in every
Speaker 3: single episode, Like that's just something that fucking it sucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't get past it. It's so uh so
Speaker 2: fucking there's just something that I can't stand about The Office.
Speaker 2: I loved it for the longest time, but it just
Speaker 2: wore out.
Speaker 5: You understand that you could watch like an hour compilation
Speaker 5: of every funny moment from the Office from ten seasons
Speaker 5: or whatever. It could be compressed down to one hour
Speaker 5: and without having any other context, you could laugh at
Speaker 5: that hour and feel.
Speaker 4: Fine with it. You didn't need to watch all the
Speaker 4: seasons to get the jokes.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've never understood the hype about the Office.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's just not my jam whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'd be like at that.
Speaker 3: So from zero Dark Party, we go to twenty thirteen
Speaker 3: with Captain Phillips.
Speaker 2: Wh o interesting that motherfucker.
Speaker 4: That's another story.
Speaker 5: The Seals came in and they saved his life, and yeah,
Speaker 5: they had DoD collaboration with that scene. Never mind the
Speaker 5: cap'n Phillips was a piece of shit who knew that
Speaker 5: he was bringing his ship into dangerous waters that were
Speaker 5: pirate filled, but he made the decision to go that
Speaker 5: way rather than the safer route and put his whole
Speaker 5: crew and the cargo in Jeopardy for his own legacy,
Speaker 5: and then again, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
Speaker 5: Then they had to send seals to save his fucking ass,
Speaker 5: and then he gets brought back home and blasted like
Speaker 5: he's some sort of hero. He's so brave. No, he
Speaker 5: almost died because he was that stupid. But sure, let's
Speaker 5: let's make him out to be something.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Shout out to Isaac Cappy because you know, the guy
Speaker 3: who killed him just so happened to be one of
Speaker 3: the main characters in this movie, or the main character
Speaker 3: in the movie, Tom Hanks.
Speaker 2: So Tom Hanks, and and.
Speaker 3: He's another one that you'll see comes up in a
Speaker 3: lot of military type of movies that were pushing propaganda.
Speaker 3: That's why I personally nobody should trust Tom Hanks. Like
Speaker 3: if you we we did an episode way back, I
Speaker 3: think with Bo Diggles on on Tom Hanks and Isaac
Speaker 3: Cappy and all that stuff. Shout out Bo Diggles if
Speaker 3: you're still out there, Bud, it's been a minute.
Speaker 4: I was on Spotify earlier.
Speaker 5: His show popped up underneath ours for something and I
Speaker 5: was like.
Speaker 2: Is he back anti slaves back? Anti slave question?
Speaker 4: Everything it was a it was a post from like
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three.
Speaker 5: I don't know how and why that popped up on
Speaker 5: my feet or on my my Spotify like recommendations today,
Speaker 5: but I was like, damn, I miss old Bo Diggles.
Speaker 2: Love you Bo if you're out there, Bud.
Speaker 3: So Yeah, Tom Hanks not a fan and nobody should
Speaker 3: be old geppetto himself as we like to say. So Yeah,
Speaker 3: Captain Phillips. And now we go to two thousand and
Speaker 3: one with Pearl Harbor. It received massive do OD support,
Speaker 3: focus more on romance, but showcased us bravery.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm trying to remember it was it was it
Speaker 5: summer of twenty of two thousand and one where that
Speaker 5: came out or was it the fall after nine to eleven?
Speaker 5: I mean they were shooting it earlier then, but I'm
Speaker 5: just curious on that one.
Speaker 4: Let's see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm checking it out here. So Pearl Harbor really
Speaker 3: least dates dun Dundum. It just says two thousand and one.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: Oh, here we Go came out May twenty first of
Speaker 3: two thousand and one, so before nine eleven.
Speaker 5: Uh okay, a few months beforehand. So everybody was already.
Speaker 4: Feeling uber patriotic and all of that, and I wish
Speaker 4: they would have kept the love story out of it.
Speaker 4: That wasn't necessary, but okay, whatever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, next one we have is another movie from two
Speaker 3: thousand and one that I'd be interesting to see when
Speaker 3: this one came out.
Speaker 2: Behind Enemy Lines.
Speaker 5: Dude, one of my favorites. Also based on the true story.
Speaker 5: Owen Wilson actually plays a real, like serious role in
Speaker 5: all of this, and it showcased, at least in some way,
Speaker 5: shape or form, what was going down in Bosnia, right
Speaker 5: with the Albanian genocide that was going on there, and
Speaker 5: the story of the pilot that flew over and got
Speaker 5: the pictures that were being taken of the mass graves
Speaker 5: and everything like that that got shot down then made
Speaker 5: it back and all of that.
Speaker 4: Yo.
Speaker 3: Wild fucking movie, dude. Owen Wilson's one of my favorite
Speaker 3: actors of all time. I fucking love that guy.
Speaker 4: I would hope he's not on a list, that's one.
Speaker 3: I would be absolutely heartbroken if he was on the
Speaker 3: Epstein list.
Speaker 7: Dude.
Speaker 4: You know, I hope he's not. You know him and
Speaker 4: Vince Vaughn, Can we just have him? Can we? Can?
Speaker 5: They just be the people that they are and they're
Speaker 5: not associated with the shit I hear.
Speaker 2: Vince Vaughan is exactly like you'd expect them to be.
Speaker 2: He uh.
Speaker 5: He did an appearance on Tires and according to like
Speaker 5: Shane Gillison all these other guys that were on set
Speaker 5: with him that day, he's like exactly who you're hoping
Speaker 5: he is, Like that, that is him, the guy he's
Speaker 5: playing that character, that's him in real life. He's hilarious
Speaker 5: and he's just NonStop and it's like good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: He was also in what was that wrestling movie Fighting
Speaker 3: with My Family?
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen that? No?
Speaker 4: I have not.
Speaker 2: The Rock was in it a little bit, but but yeah.
Speaker 3: Vince Vaughan, he was like one of the coach, like
Speaker 3: one of the wrestling coaches to try and see if
Speaker 3: you can make it to the big leagues and the
Speaker 3: WWE and stuff like that. But yeah, Vince Vaughan, dude,
Speaker 3: that'd be a shame. But yeah, it's actually interesting behind
Speaker 3: enemy Lines. The release date was originally gonna be January eighteenth,
Speaker 3: two thousand and two, but it was moved to November
Speaker 3: thirtieth of two thousand and one to probably try and
Speaker 3: be a little bit patriotic during those times, right, I
Speaker 3: mean you're talking about two months after nine to eleven.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they pushed it a little closer to try to
Speaker 5: get more recruitment up because we had to go to war.
Speaker 4: We were just attacked and all.
Speaker 5: That, and uh, we needed people in them recruiting offices.
Speaker 5: So I could see them pushing that up a little
Speaker 5: bit for sure. And again, that's one of my favorite
Speaker 5: movies honestly as far as like war movies quote unquote goes,
Speaker 5: it's fucking brilliantly done.
Speaker 3: Oh now we're going to get to one of my
Speaker 3: favorite movies of all time, at least as far as
Speaker 3: military style movies, is The Guardian.
Speaker 2: I fucking loved that movie, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm a big Ashton Kutcher fan until I
Speaker 3: found out that he was also a piece of shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah. That was one of the coastguards only fucking recruitment
Speaker 4: movies that they've ever had come out. Really good. It
Speaker 4: got me.
Speaker 2: It got me thinking about going to the Coast Guard
Speaker 2: at the time.
Speaker 4: Really Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, I know that between the military branches, we
Speaker 5: all shit on the Coast Guard. Okay, fine, I will
Speaker 5: not talk shit on their rescue swimmers or their swim
Speaker 5: qualls that they do and shit like that, Like, yes,
Speaker 5: I will joke that they are a part of Homeland
Speaker 5: Security and not Department of Defense, and I will joke
Speaker 5: about all of these things. But like big Dog, they're
Speaker 5: talking about these dudes they're jumping off in Alaska to
Speaker 5: save these crab fishermen and like, yeah, if you don't
Speaker 5: get out of the water in six minutes, you're dead.
Speaker 5: And they are willingly jumping into this, Like big Dog,
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, do you need a wheelbarrow to carry those
Speaker 5: fucking stones that you got attached to you, dick?
Speaker 3: Honestly, I got you. Yeah, it's some sketchy ass territory
Speaker 3: they got to jump in. I mean, because the fucking
Speaker 3: waves are crazy. You're jumping into freezing cold water.
Speaker 4: Fuck all that.
Speaker 3: But you know what's interesting though, So my first time
Speaker 3: ever going to work offshore, I was working for this
Speaker 3: com he called Enterprise Enterprise Marine, and and so I
Speaker 3: worked there and I used to love it. I just
Speaker 3: hated being away because my daughter was just born, and
Speaker 3: so you're out there two weeks at a time than
Speaker 3: you're home for a week, right, And I love the
Speaker 3: actual work though, Like I love being out in the
Speaker 3: water and everything, but they put us through a lot
Speaker 3: of these like training exercises and dude, it was.
Speaker 4: Like to get in the helicopter and flip underwater.
Speaker 3: No, there was no helicopter, but it was like almost
Speaker 3: like steady the Art kind of training shit though, Like
Speaker 3: we had to go to like this this Olympic pool
Speaker 3: and we had to learn all these different like survival
Speaker 3: techniques and training operations and shit like that. Then we
Speaker 3: had to learn how to get into that little boat.
Speaker 3: It's almost like a little submarine kind of looking thing.
Speaker 4: I know it. It's an orange one that they got
Speaker 4: Captain Phillipson.
Speaker 5: I forget what they're actually called, but them bitches there
Speaker 5: you want to talk about make.
Speaker 3: You see sick, dude, those things are fucking sweet though.
Speaker 3: I mean, the only time I ever got into it
Speaker 3: was literally in like an Olympic pool, so it wasn't
Speaker 3: in like a real situation. But yeah, the training. I
Speaker 3: used to love that training. Shit, dude, that was so
Speaker 3: much fun.
Speaker 4: You would have liked the military then, because there was
Speaker 4: a lot of crazy training for things like that.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's why probably why I thought the costar would have
Speaker 3: been the place for me, but never ended up doing it.
Speaker 3: The last movie that we're going to talk about into well,
Speaker 3: one of the last movies that we're going to talk
Speaker 3: about as far as the military style movies, is clear
Speaker 3: In Present Danger that came out in nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 3: It says the US military provided aircraft and hardware, amongst
Speaker 3: you know, diddling the script a little bit as well.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I remember the movie.
Speaker 3: Well, all right, so now we're going to go into
Speaker 3: CIA influenced or influencer supported films via the CIA. Number
Speaker 3: one is going to be a movie came out in
Speaker 3: twenty twelve called Argo.
Speaker 4: Okay, I never saw it, but I remember hearing about it.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I never saw it either. I think that
Speaker 3: was a affleck in that movie.
Speaker 4: Maybe an affleck.
Speaker 3: But it says the CIA consulted on the film and
Speaker 3: helped promote a favorable portrayal of the agency's rule in
Speaker 3: the Iran hostage crisis.
Speaker 4: Ah, yes, okay, I never saw it.
Speaker 5: I remember seeing commercials and thought that I really did
Speaker 5: want to see it.
Speaker 4: Never got around to it, but yeah.
Speaker 3: Next movie we got came out in two thousand and
Speaker 3: seven called Charlie Wilson's War.
Speaker 2: Have you seen that one?
Speaker 4: I believe I have?
Speaker 3: It says it indirectly supported. It was indirectly supported through
Speaker 3: the CIA historians and PR channels. We're gonna do a
Speaker 3: little bit more into that one here in a minute.
Speaker 3: The next one came out in two thousand and three,
Speaker 3: called The Recruit. Yeah, obviously it's gonna be a recruiting
Speaker 3: fucking style.
Speaker 5: Movie, right, Well, it's basically about an agent in his
Speaker 5: like early days of the agency.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: Created with CIA involvement and used as a recruiting tool. Obviously,
Speaker 3: as the name says, the next one might surprise you
Speaker 3: a little bit, Meet the.
Speaker 4: Parents because of Robert de Niro's.
Speaker 3: Role yep, yep, So the script was revised with CIA
Speaker 3: feedback for character accuracy.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, that's.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's such a good movie because.
Speaker 5: Of Robert de Niro, who is a piece of shit
Speaker 5: in real life, by the fuck him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad, but he's.
Speaker 5: Because he played a former CIA spook. They actually got
Speaker 5: CIA liaisons to like make sure he had character accuracy.
Speaker 4: That's pretty fucking hilarious.
Speaker 2: It's actually pretty cool.
Speaker 4: But does that mean that Ben Stiller has been gotten.
Speaker 4: Is he compromised?
Speaker 3: I hope not, because that's another one that I'll be
Speaker 3: really sad if if he got got as well.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I could believe it, but I wouldn't be happy
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 3: He's in the new Happy Gilmore. He's doing the same
Speaker 3: character from Happy Gilmore.
Speaker 4: The same kid. What we're running the nursing home?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, you're in my world now, Grandma.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Your fingers hurt, well, your back's gonna gonna hurt.
Speaker 2: You just pulled Lonskin escape duty.
Speaker 4: He will go to sleep or I will put you
Speaker 4: to sleep.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. He plays that fucking asshole so well.
Speaker 3: Remember he was in that fat Camp movie too.
Speaker 5: Heavyweights dude. That's his two roles. He's got two roles.
Speaker 5: He's got the super sporadic, overly jewish dude. Or he's
Speaker 5: got the guy from Dodgeball and Heavyweights, the white goodman
Speaker 5: kind of character.
Speaker 4: That's just two. That's his two characters.
Speaker 3: He's so good at it though, like the way he
Speaker 3: just fucking loses it.
Speaker 2: It gets me every time.
Speaker 4: Oh and Zulander, I can't forget.
Speaker 5: He does have the Zuelander character that he does and
Speaker 5: his dad was his agent in it.
Speaker 2: That's pretty fucking hilarious. You know, I've never seen that movie.
Speaker 4: Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not into that kind of that kind.
Speaker 3: Of shit, like those like those movies that you kind
Speaker 3: of have to be dialed in to think that they're funny,
Speaker 3: Like I didn't find Napoleon Dynamite funny at all. Like
Speaker 3: I thought it was one of the dumbest movies ever made.
Speaker 4: It was that was the point of it.
Speaker 2: I fell asleep in that fucking movie.
Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, tme out talme about as far as
Speaker 5: like dumb movies that like Awestoin Powers.
Speaker 3: No, I mean I liked Austin Powers, but I was
Speaker 3: a kid whenever it came out fair. But yeah, Napoleon
Speaker 3: donomond I was like, this is one of the fucking
Speaker 3: dumbest things I've ever seen in my life. And I
Speaker 3: honestly I thought that that movie you just brought up,
Speaker 3: what was it, Zulander, I thought that that was gonna
Speaker 3: be like that same It's almost like that Blades of
Speaker 3: Fury bullshit, Like I wasn't gonna watch.
Speaker 4: I never saw Blades of Glory.
Speaker 3: Dude, I'm over Will Ferrell, Like, I'm like the way
Speaker 3: that you're over Adam Sandler, I'm over Will Ferrell.
Speaker 5: Oh man, Okay, I get it. I get it now
Speaker 5: that you put it into that kind of context. But
Speaker 5: at least Will Ferrell can play a couple of different roles.
Speaker 5: Adam Sandler's got like three that he ever does ever
Speaker 5: Salem ben Stiller, He's only got two.
Speaker 2: Eh, whatever, if you're good at it.
Speaker 5: But he hasn't come out with like twenty movies in
Speaker 5: the past five years to where I'm over his shit,
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 4: I mean, at least he spaces them out a bit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean Netflix like signed him for like
Speaker 3: a five year deal or something like that to make
Speaker 3: all those movies.
Speaker 4: So I mean, yes they did.
Speaker 5: I mean, hey, I'm not knocking him. He made his
Speaker 5: money and good for him for that. But like, ye,
Speaker 5: at least as a person I've heard Adam Sandler's like amazing.
Speaker 2: You know, what was the that.
Speaker 3: Shit that Benghazi movie we were talking about earlier? Was
Speaker 3: that Active Valor?
Speaker 4: No? No, no, that was a shit.
Speaker 5: We were just talking about it. Blackhawk, zero Garlander, not
Speaker 5: zero Doarc thirty. It was a hurt locker.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: Oh, damn, we were just talking about that. So yeah, anyway,
Speaker 3: there's another Benghazi movie called thirteen Hours that came out
Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen. Thirteen Hours it's called The Secret Soldiers
Speaker 3: of Benghazi that had CIA cooperation, although parts remained contested.
Speaker 4: It says, yeah, that's the movie we were talking about,
Speaker 4: thirteen Hours, and uh.
Speaker 2: No, there was another one that we because I didn't
Speaker 2: mention that one earlier. There was another.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because it was I can't remember which one
Speaker 3: it was, but anyway, yeah, thirteen Hours, that's another one
Speaker 3: that was a CIA influenced kind of film there. Nextly,
Speaker 3: we have a couple of TV shows which are going
Speaker 3: to be very obvious TV shows with US government involvement.
Speaker 3: That would be NCIS, JAG, Hawaii five O twenty four, Homeland,
Speaker 3: and Jack Ryan all received military or intelligence community support,
Speaker 3: as they say, along with the Agency, which was produced
Speaker 3: in direct collaboration with the CIA. And then a movie
Speaker 3: or a show called Alias. It says it received consultation
Speaker 3: from intelligence professionals. So anytime you're getting any kind of
Speaker 3: consultation or collaboration with military, you know that it's going
Speaker 3: to be funded and you know that the script is
Speaker 3: going to be tweaked at the bare minimum. The Department
Speaker 3: of Defense Entertainment Media Office is what it's called. How
Speaker 3: about that about the DoD Entertainment Office. It reviews scripts
Speaker 3: and only supports productions that portray the US military in
Speaker 3: a positive light. If filmmakers agree to script change, they
Speaker 3: gain access to gear, locations, personnel, and sometimes funding or grants.
Speaker 3: So the CIA has its own Office of Public Affairs,
Speaker 3: which liais is with Hollywood for PR and recruitment purposes.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of what we're talking about here.
Speaker 4: Here we go.
Speaker 3: Okay, So as far as like a FOYA document, so
Speaker 3: freedom of information documents, over eighteen hundred films and TV
Speaker 3: shows have been influenced by the Pentagon or CIA directly.
Speaker 2: Eighteen hundred, dude.
Speaker 4: I could believe that. Well, when you say that, now
Speaker 4: we're talking about in CIS and JAG. How many episodes
Speaker 4: do these shows have? You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2: In points?
Speaker 5: So there's gonna be some sort of like a flux
Speaker 5: there or are they calling all of in CIS one
Speaker 5: of the eighteen hundred or all of the JAG you
Speaker 5: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I don't know.
Speaker 3: It doesn't specify, but I kind of thought that it
Speaker 3: was talking about the show as a whole.
Speaker 2: But eighteen hundred that's a lot, so I don't know.
Speaker 4: It might might be talking about if we're talking about
Speaker 4: movies from way back in the silent film era, Birth
Speaker 4: of a Nation to now, like it's very possible, they
Speaker 4: do mean eighteen hundred, like proper movies and television shows
Speaker 4: in totality, Like it's very possible.
Speaker 3: There was also a book that was written by Tom
Speaker 3: Secker and Matthew Alford that dives deep into, you know,
Speaker 3: all the government funded kind of cinema called National Security
Speaker 3: Cinema for anybody that wants a deeper perspective in on
Speaker 3: a lot of this.
Speaker 2: So yeah, go check that one out.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and it actually there are official DoD slash
Speaker 3: Hollywood cooperation logs, and some of it was actually leaked
Speaker 3: via emails through Sony hacks and a bunch of other
Speaker 3: like big corporate hacks that revealed backroom deals with government agencies.
Speaker 3: So even the ones that weren't on the books, it
Speaker 3: was still like these these leaked emails showed even more.
Speaker 3: You say it was national security what national security cinema?
Speaker 4: Cinema Okay, I'm looking this up now, I've never heard
Speaker 4: of that, but okay, share the screen.
Speaker 2: You see a picture of that bad boy.
Speaker 5: Uh well, actually, I have an interview with Matthew Alford
Speaker 5: on National Security Cinema. It's two minutes and forty three
Speaker 5: seconds long. If you want to watch this, let's do it,
Speaker 5: all right, go ahead and let me share that screen again.
Speaker 5: All the good cult members will want to see what
Speaker 5: we were talking about rather than just hear about it.
Speaker 4: Come check us out on Patreon.
Speaker 8: First, let's go for this turn of the twenty first century.
Speaker 8: You know, if you look at say IMDb, it looked
Speaker 8: like they've been involved in sort of three things like
Speaker 8: The Recruit, which was an al Pacino movie that kind
Speaker 8: of sank into the water a bit, and a.
Speaker 4: Couple of other things. But actually we found out just two.
Speaker 8: Or three years ago, just because the CIA just started
Speaker 8: to slightly open up a little chink, and then we
Speaker 8: realized that they were involved in whole series like twenty
Speaker 8: four and Alias, and they were involved in many more films,
Speaker 8: and we realized they were involved in Charlie Wilson's War,
Speaker 8: and a lot of these things were people kind of
Speaker 8: suspected maybe that there was, but there was nothing ever
Speaker 8: written down on paper. And even now with the CIA,
Speaker 8: because it's much more closed, we don't.
Speaker 2: See the scripts.
Speaker 8: And the annotations and the memos and the letters going
Speaker 8: back and forth. We would like you to change this, this,
Speaker 8: and this. It seems to be done a lot more
Speaker 8: on the slide.
Speaker 9: What you're saying is that there's active script amendment from
Speaker 9: on high to ultimately push a certain narrative which ultimately
Speaker 9: fits in with American foreign policy.
Speaker 4: Still, yeah, yeah, all the time.
Speaker 8: And more so now because in fact, that process has
Speaker 8: accelerated considerably in the last sort of ten or fifteen years.
Speaker 8: Why because the explosion of TV channels, the military in
Speaker 8: particular has said, let's get involved in TV much more so.
Speaker 8: They get involved in all sorts of things, including cookery
Speaker 8: shows and all sorts. Every time that there's a military
Speaker 8: person who's baking a cake or flying off into space
Speaker 8: or whatever it is, the military is going to be
Speaker 8: the people behind that, and they are going to want
Speaker 8: to have right to amend the script. The point is
Speaker 8: it doesn't necessarily matter too much if it occasionally happens
Speaker 8: this sort of thing, but it's the fact that it's systematic.
Speaker 4: If you look at this what we could call a.
Speaker 8: Subgenre of action films, or a kind of genre to
Speaker 8: the side, if you like, we could call it national
Speaker 8: security cinema, And you're talking about several hundred products which
Speaker 8: are very prominent about the way that we view the
Speaker 8: entire geopolitical world and the way that we view our leaders.
Speaker 8: National security cinema comprises all of these movies, and also
Speaker 8: you could extend it to TV if you wanted, and
Speaker 8: to video games of course, and they're usually worked on
Speaker 8: and edited by these quite secretive military organizations. And they're
Speaker 8: also promoting this line, which is that United States Western
Speaker 8: foreign policy is good, that there are official.
Speaker 4: Enemies that we should destroy.
Speaker 8: A lot of the time. They've been ara Muslim enemies,
Speaker 8: not all the time, and there has been a small
Speaker 8: improvement on that over the last sort of fifteen years
Speaker 8: or so, because they don't want to start a civilizational
Speaker 8: war and they don't want blood on the streets, particularly
Speaker 8: between Christians and Muslims.
Speaker 3: Okay, wow, And it made me think too, like if
Speaker 3: you remember, especially when we were growing up, you know,
Speaker 3: it wasn't so much you know, Muslim countries that we
Speaker 3: were at war against.
Speaker 2: It was always the fucking Russians.
Speaker 4: You know, so to that point, Actually, I just looked
Speaker 4: up what Charlie Wilson's war was. We don't have to
Speaker 4: look at that, honestly.
Speaker 5: So all right, do you ever watched the old Claymation
Speaker 5: Christmas time movies that our parents grew up watching, Root
Speaker 5: Off the.
Speaker 2: Red Nose Reindeer. Yeah, Frosty the Snowman, all that shit.
Speaker 4: So with that, do you remember the Jack Frost movie
Speaker 4: and there was the bad guy with his robot army.
Speaker 4: He was Russian. Yeah, he was a Russian guy. Why
Speaker 4: would he in our way?
Speaker 5: Maybe currently we could see or were the evil Russian,
Speaker 5: But back when that came out, dude, that was cold warshit.
Speaker 5: There was a reason why that was done that way.
Speaker 5: Same thing with the Santa Claus coming to town. The
Speaker 5: burger Meister meister Berger was a German mayor that was
Speaker 5: so mean to these kids and all this, and they
Speaker 5: were even wearing stripe pajamas for fuck's sake. But like,
Speaker 5: it didn't resonate with our generation of being a child,
Speaker 5: but to our parents' generation that was intended for Cold
Speaker 5: War style Russian Germany. They were clearly the bad guys
Speaker 5: of all things.
Speaker 3: Ever, well, and you see now they're starting to pull
Speaker 3: away from that whole Russia bad guy kind of situation,
Speaker 3: and maybe maybe not entirely, but makes me think. I
Speaker 3: just went to go see a couple weeks ago the
Speaker 3: new Leland, Stitch and uh Old Boy wasn't Russian anymore.
Speaker 3: It was fucking Zach Galafanakis.
Speaker 4: I know, I fucking hated that.
Speaker 3: But if you think about it, if you think about it,
Speaker 3: if they're not trying to push that Russia is necessarily
Speaker 3: the worst enemy right now, then yeah, you would take
Speaker 3: that out right Like so it almost makes you think that,
Speaker 3: like maybe there was some kind of military propagation within
Speaker 3: even Leelo and Stitch.
Speaker 5: Right there really is to your point, right, So, like
Speaker 5: you said, there was in the past few decades, a
Speaker 5: lot of the bad guys in the movies have been
Speaker 5: Muslim or at least from an Islamic state in some way,
Speaker 5: shape or form, and they have kind of pulled away
Speaker 5: from that. But it's not just in America. Other countries
Speaker 5: have done very similar things, and they didn't want to
Speaker 5: start a civilization war where it was straight and not
Speaker 5: just necessarily Christians versus Muslims, but most of the West
Speaker 5: versus everything of the Arab nations, Like they didn't want
Speaker 5: it to go to that level. But at the same time,
Speaker 5: any war movie that was based from anything associated with
Speaker 5: the global War on Terror, this is why it was
Speaker 5: that way. But then at the same time, we look
Speaker 5: at Rambo. There's a really good case study for this. Okay,
Speaker 5: there's been what five Rambo movies that have come out,
Speaker 5: something like that. First one it was just Rambo versus
Speaker 5: the police and the National Guard, right, just a Vietnam
Speaker 5: soldier kind.
Speaker 4: Of dealing with some PTSD on some shit. Okay.
Speaker 5: The next one, Rambo two, he's going back to Vietnam
Speaker 5: to save the POW's and there's a bunch of movies
Speaker 5: where they're like going in to save our boys and
Speaker 5: all of these things.
Speaker 4: All right, cool.
Speaker 5: Third Rambo he's in Afghanistan and he's fighting with the
Speaker 5: muja Hadeen against the Soviets. This is for the optics
Speaker 5: of it. Now cut to the very last Rambo that
Speaker 5: just came out. They could have put them anywhere. They
Speaker 5: could have put him in the Middle East, they could
Speaker 5: have put them in France, for fuck's sake. They put
Speaker 5: them back in Southeast Asia on purpose, because if they're
Speaker 5: going to make someone look like the bad guy, they
Speaker 5: want to make sure it's not feeding into any current
Speaker 5: fire that's going on. He went to memr He went
Speaker 5: to where the what used to be Burma, where they
Speaker 5: currently are growing most of the world's opium.
Speaker 4: I might throw out they send them there for that.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying that all is a part
Speaker 4: of a plan.
Speaker 3: Well, and this is a part of just the mass
Speaker 3: hypnosis of the population. And we've brought up about how
Speaker 3: they were trying to see how how fast somebody would
Speaker 3: slip into a trance like state whenever they're watching TV.
Speaker 3: They hooked up a bunch of nodes to a bunch
Speaker 3: of these people, right, and nobody could last longer than
Speaker 3: sixty seconds before slipping into a beta trance, which is
Speaker 3: just a light trance. But the longer you're sitting in
Speaker 3: front of it, the you know, you ever notice like
Speaker 3: a lot of people start to get really tired when
Speaker 3: they're watching a movie, especially if it's like maybe it's
Speaker 3: maybe I don't know, maybe it's kind of boring or whatever,
Speaker 3: but a lot of people start to get really tired. Well,
Speaker 3: what comes right before you're about to fall asleep is
Speaker 3: known as the Theta state of mind, which is literally
Speaker 3: it only happens naturally twice a day right before you
Speaker 3: fall asleep, and as soon as you wake up, you're
Speaker 3: in a little bit of a haze. One foot in
Speaker 3: the dream world, one foot in the real world. Well,
Speaker 3: if you're in front of a TV, and think about
Speaker 3: how many people fall asleep with the TV on. Right,
Speaker 3: If you're in front of a TV and you're going
Speaker 3: into this trance like state. Well, now, once you're in
Speaker 3: that theta or even beta, but especially the theta mindset.
Speaker 3: But that's actually what most little kids up until they're
Speaker 3: seven years old are naturally in. They haven't learned to
Speaker 3: get into the higher you know, states of consciousness such
Speaker 3: as beta and and well such as al alpha and
Speaker 3: beta beta. Sorry, so beta is natural. Alpha is the
Speaker 3: light trance. I got that mixed up, but you know,
Speaker 3: and that's this is part of the hypnosis. And so
Speaker 3: whenever you're watching a movie, you're going into that trance.
Speaker 3: You're a lot more suggestive, and that's the big deal.
Speaker 3: That's where they're trying to get you. They're trying to
Speaker 3: get you to be as suggestive as humanly possible, as
Speaker 3: if you actually are under hypnosis. And of course the
Speaker 3: military would want to diddle your brain a little bit
Speaker 3: whenever you're in some kind of slight trance, right, absolutely, So,
Speaker 3: now we're going to dive a little bit deeper into
Speaker 3: the some of the movies that we had named, first
Speaker 3: one being Top Gun in nineteen eighty six. The branches
Speaker 3: that were involved were the US Navy and the Department
Speaker 3: of Defense. So Top Gun, it says, was a turning
Speaker 3: point for military propaganda in film. The Navy offered full
Speaker 3: cooperation jets, aircraft, carriers and all on the condition that
Speaker 3: the script glorified naval aviation and remove any unfavorable content.
Speaker 3: The recruitment booths were set up in theaters after the film.
Speaker 3: Holy shit, did you know that? Say that again, brother,
Speaker 3: The recruitment booths were set up in theaters for people
Speaker 3: that got done watching the film.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that, but I could believe that, oh man.
Speaker 2: And of course in Listman Sword, the film sold war
Speaker 2: as an adrenaline filled lifestyle, complete with homo erotic undertones
Speaker 2: disguised as camaraderie and thrilling dog fights, backed by Kenny Loggins,
Speaker 2: this was no accident.
Speaker 5: God, erotic shit, that was the Nobody can watch that
Speaker 5: volleyball scene without being like, bro, why, like you didn't
Speaker 5: need to do it like this, but they did.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It was almost reminiscent of Brohemian Grove. If you were there,
Speaker 3: you know, you know what we're talking about.
Speaker 4: Jesus fuck. That was yeah, am moving on.
Speaker 3: It says this was no accident. The Pentagon rewrote parts
Speaker 3: of the script and the love interest had to be
Speaker 3: changed from a Navy officer to a civilian. Viewers subconsciously
Speaker 3: absorbed a message the military is badass and joining makes
Speaker 3: you a hero. The phrase I feel the need the
Speaker 3: need for speed became more than just a catchphrase. It
Speaker 3: became a subtle call to service.
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, dude, oh man.
Speaker 3: We're really fucking breaking it open in this one. So yeah,
Speaker 3: that's Top Gun. That's the first one came out in
Speaker 3: eighty six. The next one, Top Gun Maverick, that came
Speaker 3: out in twenty twenty two. The branches involved were the same,
Speaker 3: with the US Navy and the DoD three decades later.
Speaker 3: Top Gun Maverick wasn't just a sequel. It was a
Speaker 3: modern military recruitment commercial. The Navy once again gave filmmakers
Speaker 3: access to FA eighteen super hornets, real naval bases, and
Speaker 3: even aircraft carriers in exchange.
Speaker 2: The script underwent.
Speaker 3: Extensive review by the Department of Defense to ensure a
Speaker 3: positive portrayal of military life and leadership. Do you think
Speaker 3: about the money you need? Like think about it, Like,
Speaker 3: how much money do you think the military spent in
Speaker 3: order just to have these people in fighter jets and
Speaker 3: fucking actual aircraft carriers and everything. Like how much money
Speaker 3: do you think that would cost if you were to
Speaker 3: pay the military to use that kind of shit? I mean,
Speaker 3: if you're gonna be in a flight simulator and that's
Speaker 3: what we're doing here and get some CGI in it
Speaker 3: and everything, and basically you're like, listen, we just need
Speaker 3: some camera set up outside of one of your jets
Speaker 3: that's parked, and we need a helmet and the mask
Speaker 3: in the flight suit, and that's all we need. You
Speaker 3: could probably get out of it pretty pretty easily as
Speaker 3: far as the.
Speaker 4: Finibals are concerned.
Speaker 5: For you to go up in the air and like
Speaker 5: have because you can't see their faces unless like when
Speaker 5: he unhooked his mask and was talking to his boy
Speaker 5: or whatever, which is bullshit, I might add, but whatever,
Speaker 5: But they did that so that you could see as face.
Speaker 5: That's another thing they do in movies a lot, even
Speaker 5: in medieval movies. You see these times with these guys
Speaker 5: in the middle of pitch combat will take off their
Speaker 5: helmet and just so you could see their hair, and.
Speaker 4: All like, no, the fuck you would not. Homeboy's got
Speaker 4: an axe aimed at your skull. You're gonna take it off,
Speaker 4: my boy. No, you're not entertained, right exactly exactly.
Speaker 5: So you see these movies where Homeboy like takes off
Speaker 5: his helmet in the middle of a firefight, or he
Speaker 5: takes off his breathing mask when he's in a jet
Speaker 5: like pulling mock too, and it's like, who you're not,
Speaker 5: it's unrealistic, but it's for the cinema.
Speaker 4: That's what we would call creative liberties. Right. So, if
Speaker 4: you're going up in the air and.
Speaker 5: You've got an actual naval pilot flying in the front
Speaker 5: seat and maybe the actor is in the back seat
Speaker 5: getting the shots, if you will, or whatever, Yeah, that's
Speaker 5: costing jet fuel. That's costing man hours and maintenance hours
Speaker 5: on that aircraft to get it up in the air
Speaker 5: you're getting on the aircraft carrier itself to get these shots,
Speaker 5: Like yo, it's it's gonna lost time and money. And
Speaker 5: the military, if it's for the principle of recruiting, is
Speaker 5: very capable and willing to spend that time and money.
Speaker 4: Absolutely got to spend money to make money. That's how
Speaker 4: this goes. But it's not like they're doing it just
Speaker 4: out of the kind of so their fucking hearts dog
Speaker 4: now they need warm bodies. We really do, We really do.
Speaker 3: So beyond the nostalgia, Maverick reinforced traditional values, respect for
Speaker 3: chain of command, heroism and the redemptive arc of duty.
Speaker 3: Subtle programming reinforce military superiority through cinematic adrenaline, hyperreal dogfights,
Speaker 3: heroic sacrifice, and the idea that older soldiers still matter.
Speaker 3: It was a fantasy, but one engineered to ignite patriotic fervor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I can believe that. I mean, the old soldiers
Speaker 5: still mattering. You know, Tom Selik fucking killed the role,
Speaker 5: so I mean, hey, I'm here for.
Speaker 2: Tom Selik, one of the fucking OG's dude.
Speaker 5: And then the Maverick movie, they Jesus Val Kilmer. He
Speaker 5: couldn't even talk anymore. They had him typing out in
Speaker 5: all of that, and which is also kind of sad,
Speaker 5: it is, but also like it's that's in the realm
Speaker 5: of being unrealistic. If they would have made him seem
Speaker 5: like a retired admiral or something who's sitting on the
Speaker 5: porch at his house and he's typing out something to
Speaker 5: his old friend Maverick, that would have been way more
Speaker 5: believable than a guy who you're trying to pass off
Speaker 5: as somebody in a command position who's unable to speak.
Speaker 4: No, I'm sorry, that's not some school.
Speaker 5: No, they're not gonna do that, especially if he was
Speaker 5: like some sort of like a nuclear commander or something,
Speaker 5: where like he had a very specific set of skills
Speaker 5: that the Navy couldn't go without. Fine, they'll make certain
Speaker 5: exceptions and allowances and waivers for things like that.
Speaker 4: I understand this. He was a fucking pilot, that's not.
Speaker 5: No, you wouldn't keep that guy around because he's like
Speaker 5: that critical in his position. You would force him out,
Speaker 5: you would give him a medical retirement. But okay, sure,
Speaker 5: I'm batman.
Speaker 4: You know, is it never mind? I want to be mean.
Speaker 4: Val Kilmer did an Okay, job as Batman.
Speaker 7: But like.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying anyway.
Speaker 3: The next movie or series that we get into is
Speaker 3: the Transformer series from two thousand and seven to present day.
Speaker 3: The branches involved were the DoD the Air Force, and
Speaker 3: the Army. Michael Bay your favorite director. Michael Bay's Transformer
Speaker 3: films are effectively love letters to the American military dressed
Speaker 3: up as alien robot battles. Depentagon offered tanks, helicopters, jets,
Speaker 3: and base access in return for script consultation and guidance.
Speaker 3: That's why nearly every military figure is heroic and why
Speaker 3: the US response to alien threats is overwhelmingly competent. Unlike
Speaker 3: in most sci fi narratives, the subconscious programming is thick
Speaker 3: might makes right. Military technology is our greatest weapon and
Speaker 3: win in doubt. Call the Army characters like I figured
Speaker 3: you no offense, no offen to the people in the Army.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it's not like a Wendell called him
Speaker 5: Marie's it's not even taking that stance. It's like that
Speaker 5: that That is one of the most opinions that anybody's
Speaker 5: ever had.
Speaker 3: Characters like Josh Dummel's Special Forces leader are stoic brave
Speaker 3: and unwavering. Even optimist Prime's voice often echoes Reagan era
Speaker 3: messaging peace through strength, trust authority, and protect quote unquote freedom.
Speaker 3: It's cgi warporn greenlit by the DoD.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent agree with that. And for the record,
Speaker 4: I don't hate Michael Bay as a director, but like,
Speaker 4: there's no need. Transformers is the exception, because all right,
Speaker 4: if you're gonna have an intergalactic robot alien race having battles,
Speaker 4: there's gonna be explosions and crazy shit. I get it.
Speaker 4: But every movie he does, It's South Park even made
Speaker 4: a joke about this. They're like in the writer's room
Speaker 4: and he's like and then more explosions and this goes
Speaker 4: here and they're like, wait, we're in the in the
Speaker 4: coffee scene like that and more explosions, and it's like,
Speaker 4: you go over the top, Like, more explosions does not
Speaker 4: equal a good movie. I know that's a crazy thing
Speaker 4: to Michael Bay. He doesn't believe that.
Speaker 5: He thinks that the only way you can have a
Speaker 5: blockbuster hit is that there's explosions on screen like every
Speaker 5: fifteen seconds. Okay, I just I personally disagree with that,
Speaker 5: but he did good with the Transformer movies. I think
Speaker 5: they kind of I think they kind of overstayed their
Speaker 5: welcome a bit when Shilah Buff was no longer in them.
Speaker 4: I just kind of lost lost that want. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: something that I don't like Mark Wahlberg either. I love
Speaker 4: him as an actor, but like not in Transformers. That
Speaker 4: wasn't his role. Dude, that's not his genre.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry anyway, Although I will say the Bumblebee movie
Speaker 3: was really good. Didn't have Shila Buff in it, but
Speaker 3: if you watch that one, that was a really good movie.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've seen that one honestly is
Speaker 4: a good one.
Speaker 2: It's a good one.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, we got the Transformers and uh oh, by
Speaker 3: the way, shout out to Shilah Buff's a strange sister,
Speaker 3: which we before the claim that Shilah Buff is a
Speaker 3: love child of Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2: I believe isn't that what we said?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've done more digging into that. That would be
Speaker 5: an internet whack job. She's still going, by the way,
Speaker 5: I believe you. She's been like showing up on podcasts
Speaker 5: and stuff. We've had quite a few internet whack jobs
Speaker 5: that we've talked about before. Some of them on the show,
Speaker 5: some of them, some of them on the show. And yeah,
Speaker 5: she's attempting to carve out her own fifteen minutes of fame.
Speaker 5: But like, I don't know if she understands this, but
Speaker 5: she could be sued for character defamation if she gets
Speaker 5: big enough and like.
Speaker 4: Goes that route. Now, I don't know if Shia would
Speaker 4: do that.
Speaker 5: He's on this whole biblical kick right now, and he
Speaker 5: seems like he's doing better as a person now more
Speaker 5: than he has in the last fucking twenty years.
Speaker 2: I disagree.
Speaker 3: I think he's even crazier now than he ever was
Speaker 3: because he's Catholic. Oh dude, he's hardcore into the Catholic shit.
Speaker 4: Now, like you, most people that get that way are.
Speaker 3: That's a sane person, that's what you think. I like,
Speaker 3: I mean so completely into the I mean, I get
Speaker 3: the Christian thing.
Speaker 2: Bud Catholic.
Speaker 3: I mean nothing against Catholics, but that's like the most
Speaker 3: occult version of Christianity. After my research into.
Speaker 4: It, I think he kind of speaks to certain people
Speaker 4: that they truly like the the mechanics of it. They
Speaker 4: like the way the Mass is laid out and how
Speaker 4: it's traditionally done this way, and it gives them a
Speaker 4: sense of like historical precedence, and it gives them a
Speaker 4: sense of like order to an otherwise chaotic life.
Speaker 2: Some people just love being told what to do.
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, that's the Bible is not a rule
Speaker 5: book necessarily, but it's supposed to be. You're supposed to
Speaker 5: conform your life to the Bible as best you can.
Speaker 5: But we're not going to go that way this episode.
Speaker 5: All I'm saying is that there is something for a
Speaker 5: denomination for everybody out there. Those that like to be
Speaker 5: a little more loud and a little more you know,
Speaker 5: dancing in the middle of a church service, We have
Speaker 5: a denomination for that. Those that like to be quiet
Speaker 5: and go through the order of precedence. Sit Neil in
Speaker 5: seeing some hymnals get the communion, Sit Neil Band like,
Speaker 5: did we have a denomination for that?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not a Catholic. I don't have hatred.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't have hatred towards Catholicism as a denomination,
Speaker 5: but I do find it interesting. And we can do
Speaker 5: a diveal on this one day here soon if you'd like,
Speaker 5: every big name that has found Christian well, I don't
Speaker 5: want to say every There's been a few that.
Speaker 4: Have a lot.
Speaker 2: There's a lot, not all.
Speaker 5: There's been more than a handful that have found Christianity
Speaker 5: or found God and found the love of Jesus Christ
Speaker 5: in other denominations, and they have had radical transformations in
Speaker 5: their life and all the things. But there seems to
Speaker 5: be a going trend like for instance, Miloianapolis right, very
Speaker 5: famously gay, very loud about so many things, and then
Speaker 5: he finds Catholicism and he divorces his husband and he's
Speaker 5: like hardcore Catholic these days, Russell Brand, cat Von, Shila Buff.
Speaker 5: There is this thing that's happening right now where the
Speaker 5: Catholic Church is actually seeing a resurgence in certain regards.
Speaker 2: Or at least they're paying actors to make it seem
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 4: I don't think they're paying them, but I think that
Speaker 4: they're enticing them in other ways.
Speaker 3: And blackmailing them. That's probably more likely. Actually, you think
Speaker 3: about like the people that are getting into it, they
Speaker 3: all have some kind of sketchy ass history. Mel Gibson,
Speaker 3: Shila Buff, Russell Brand, like, they all have some really
Speaker 3: sketchy history of maybe, you know, maybe the Catholic Church.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a Vatican, I don't know. Maybe they got
Speaker 3: some dirt and said, look, you're gonna fucking play ball
Speaker 3: with us. We're trying to bring people back to the
Speaker 3: Catholic Church. And if you don't, well, we got a
Speaker 3: couple of videos here, We got a couple of you
Speaker 3: know whatever. You know what I'm saying, Like, I think
Speaker 3: that that would be an interesting show to dive into.
Speaker 4: Actually, I think it's possible.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that it's one hundred percent accurate or whatever,
Speaker 5: but I just I find it interesting that that is
Speaker 5: the realm that's being had.
Speaker 3: I just I like, don't buy it with Russell Brand,
Speaker 3: like that, that is the most like unlikely character to
Speaker 3: like to go from where he was to now he's
Speaker 3: Catholic and he's going to the fucking Jordan River and
Speaker 3: his fucking whitey tities and he's out there with another
Speaker 3: dude who's out there in his whitey tities and doing
Speaker 3: the whole baptism thing.
Speaker 4: I'm like, ah, right, dude, come on.
Speaker 5: Dude, it's on my bucket list to get baptized in
Speaker 5: the Jordan River and.
Speaker 2: Your whitey tities you don't even wear underwear.
Speaker 5: No, I do not, But no, I'm just gonna wear
Speaker 5: like a white shirt. You know, you don't have to
Speaker 5: wear just underwear.
Speaker 4: No, you gotta you gotta go full gay with it, dude. No,
Speaker 4: that would be ridiculous, isn't it. But I didn't know
Speaker 4: he was doing in white tities. I thought he had
Speaker 4: like a white like shirt or something.
Speaker 3: I haven't seen the pictures basically naked with the with
Speaker 3: the exception of the whitey tities, and the guy that
Speaker 3: was given him the baptism was also in his whitey tities.
Speaker 2: It seemed ritualistic. It seems fucking ritualistic to me.
Speaker 4: Bro I mean, but baptism, like on paper, is ritualistic.
Speaker 4: It is, it is, But I'm saying more so than
Speaker 4: the optics.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 5: Yeah, most of the people that I know that have
Speaker 5: gone and done that were wearing like not like a
Speaker 5: man dress or anything, but you know, wearing a white
Speaker 5: shirt and like some pants of some type or a swimsuit.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't know. And we could do a
Speaker 5: deep dive on that later on. Like, and it's not
Speaker 5: just in this country. Catholicism worldwide is seeing a very
Speaker 5: large resurgence. Christianity is on the rise right now worldwide,
Speaker 5: maybe not in America, but around in Asia right now.
Speaker 5: That is what people are projecting is going to be
Speaker 5: the next big renaissance that happens in China, especially with
Speaker 5: the fall of g that's being projected to happen very
Speaker 5: very soon, especially because Christianity is punishable by prisonment if
Speaker 5: not death in China. So I mean once that gets
Speaker 5: broken out, yeah, I think it's going to see a
Speaker 5: massive resurgence over there. And because the Chinese people are
Speaker 5: so like, they're strict in order and buy the book
Speaker 5: and all these things, it would also make sense to
Speaker 5: me that Catholicism would take serious root in China.
Speaker 2: I don't know this for a fact, though. Look at
Speaker 2: him here in his fucking whitey tities, bro, and then
Speaker 2: you got home.
Speaker 4: I see him holding a picture. Scroll down. There's a picture. Uh,
Speaker 4: I can't find because it's it's a video.
Speaker 2: We'll pull it up one of these days.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like, because you can see right here they're
Speaker 3: all coming together after the baptism, and he's wearing shorts
Speaker 3: right here, right, Yeah, there's shorts, but right here in
Speaker 3: this picture he's just rocking the whitey tidies.
Speaker 4: Ah, yeah, I see it. That's weird fucking But Okay,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to think about that.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, I'm looking at it obviously from
Speaker 3: a bias perspective, but I'm just saying, I can't imagine,
Speaker 3: you know, being in front of the glory of God
Speaker 3: when I'm from baptizing and like you can see like
Speaker 3: my mushroom head, you know what I'm saying, that's weird.
Speaker 5: It also would makes sense that somebody would get baptized
Speaker 5: completely naked. Honestly, to me, you were born into this
Speaker 5: world without clothing. God knows your naked, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. There's a whole thing in the garden eating
Speaker 5: about that and shit. But seeing when there was gonna
Speaker 5: be cameras on them, you would think that a modicum
Speaker 5: of modesty. I don't, you know, who am I to judge?
Speaker 3: We need to go back to our caveman ways and
Speaker 3: just get naked all the time.
Speaker 4: I would, But it gets cold, man, there's wintertime, and shit,
Speaker 4: you're wearing a fucking sweater as it is, homie, and
Speaker 4: I'm still cold every time it gets below sixty degrees.
Speaker 4: It's insane.
Speaker 3: I'm meant for the tropics, all right, So now let's
Speaker 3: get back over the list. Enough fucking around. Iron Man
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight. The branches involved where the US
Speaker 3: Air Force and the DoD. Iron Man may have kicked
Speaker 3: off the Marvel cinematic universe, but its roots lie in
Speaker 3: military industrial glory. The DOOD supported the film with access
Speaker 3: to fighter jets, personnel, and military bases, helping to craft
Speaker 3: Tony Stark's transformation from arms dealer to patriot hero. The
Speaker 3: Pentagon reviewed and approved script portions to ensure the the
Speaker 3: US military wasn't shown as complicit in global arms corruption.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not complicit in it whatsoever. Bullshit.
Speaker 3: They've made money from everybody. They are the Hammer, dude,
Speaker 3: that's Hammer Corporation. That is who the military industrial complex
Speaker 3: actually is.
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, Lords of War showed the corruption behind the military
Speaker 4: industrial complex and the gun running that happens. So you know, hey,
Speaker 4: what are we talking about here?
Speaker 3: The film subtly redeems American militarism. Stark's character arc suggests
Speaker 3: that US weapons are only bad when they fall into
Speaker 3: the wrong hands, and that the solution isn't disarmament but
Speaker 3: personal responsibility. Within the system. Iron Man becomes a symbol
Speaker 3: of benevolent interventionism. Yeah, interventionism.
Speaker 4: Yeah, is that the message?
Speaker 5: Because I thought it was that he didn't trust even
Speaker 5: our own military with the weapons. That's why he stopped
Speaker 5: manufacturing them, and he wanted to privatize world peace and
Speaker 5: be the one guy to stop at all. He went
Speaker 5: into sidestep the entirety of the US military. Maybe I
Speaker 5: missed the point.
Speaker 3: That's probably where it started to veer off script. You know,
Speaker 3: didn't necessarily make the military look like the good guys.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it says iron Man becomes a symbol of
Speaker 3: benevolent interventionism, a man outside the military who still acts
Speaker 3: like it's private superhero.
Speaker 5: Okay, fair on the first one, I could see that,
Speaker 5: the second one not so much.
Speaker 4: Third one absolutely not at all.
Speaker 3: So shout out to Roady. It should have it should
Speaker 3: have remained Terrence Howard's role. The fact didn't want anymore
Speaker 3: he went psycho. No, he still wanted it. No, he
Speaker 3: didn't start going on to all that other shit until
Speaker 3: like a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4: That's true. He was still playing in uh what was
Speaker 4: that another show? It was like a spin off of
Speaker 4: a of a hustle and flow. He was still acting
Speaker 4: at that time. You're right, yeah he was. They gave
Speaker 4: it to Don Cheetle.
Speaker 3: He gave it to Don Cheedle, and I thought he no,
Speaker 3: he never. He was pissed that he didn't get it
Speaker 3: because they kind of like sideswiped him. He didn't even
Speaker 3: know that he wasn't going to retain it.
Speaker 5: Wow, Okay, you know I liked him in the role
Speaker 5: way more than Don Cheetahs punk ass.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, Terrence Howard, I mean, set aside what you
Speaker 3: think about all of his spiritual shit. Seems like a
Speaker 3: fucking awesome dude to hang out with.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, he'd be cool to hang with for sure.
Speaker 5: But yeah he's he's on his own.
Speaker 4: Vibe right now.
Speaker 2: I like that vibe personally.
Speaker 3: But anyhow, so to do Yeah, now we're going to
Speaker 3: And you saw like how that whole thing kind of
Speaker 3: played out played out with Iron Man and even up
Speaker 3: up with the Avengers and stuff like that. Right, Like
Speaker 3: Iron Man Tony Stark was all about like essentially like
Speaker 3: putting the planet in some kind of iron Dome kind
Speaker 3: of situation like they got ever in Israel, but like
Speaker 3: more AI and advanced technology type to perfect or to
Speaker 3: prevent from the aliens and comming and all that other
Speaker 3: shit right where you got Ultron and he's calling all
Speaker 3: these fucking other things from aliens from other planets. And
Speaker 3: so whenever those aliens came in Ironman and Tony Stark,
Speaker 3: that's why they had the whole Civil War movie between
Speaker 3: Ironman and Captain fucking America.
Speaker 4: Iron right, oh, Captain America.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, they went through their whole thing and yeah,
Speaker 3: and it was all about like pushing military like overly,
Speaker 3: you know, overstretched as far as military security and whatnot.
Speaker 5: Do you think that maybe this whole Golden Dome conversation
Speaker 5: that Trump's wanted to get us in the same guy
Speaker 5: that created the Space Force?
Speaker 4: Are we saying there may be some little little cone shown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying they always put it in movies
Speaker 3: before it happens in real life.
Speaker 2: That's part of the programming.
Speaker 4: Mah. I mean, hey, I'm here for it. By the way,
Speaker 4: I support the Golden Dome.
Speaker 3: I know you you and others don't think that they're
Speaker 3: doing it for karmaic reasons, but I think personally, I
Speaker 3: think it's beyond why they put it in movies. Before
Speaker 3: it comes to real life. I think it's more than
Speaker 3: just karmic reasons. That's I just think that's one of
Speaker 3: the reasons. But I think the actual main reason why
Speaker 3: they put shit in movies before it comes to real
Speaker 3: life is so that whenever it does happen in real life,
Speaker 3: people are aware that they've seen it before. You know,
Speaker 3: it's a soft launch. It's a soft launch, so that
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 2: Think about it.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, if it wasn't for certain alien movies,
Speaker 3: if you saw a fucking UFO up in this guy,
Speaker 3: you'd probably shit your pants.
Speaker 2: You wouldn't know what to do.
Speaker 3: But I've seen this in a movie before, so I
Speaker 3: already know, like I'm gonna act how those actors acted, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, using it for the soft launch principle of it,
Speaker 5: I agree one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: I think that's why they released things in movies beforehand.
Speaker 5: I just me and you have disagreed on this one
Speaker 5: as far as the karmic balance of it, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's fine, but anyway, all right, let's move
Speaker 3: on to one of your favorite movies of all time.
Speaker 3: Captain Marvel came out in twenty nineteen. The branch involved
Speaker 3: was obviously the US Air Force. Marvel Studios partnered directly
Speaker 3: with the US Air Force to market Captain America as
Speaker 3: a recruitment tool for women. The Air Force provided jets
Speaker 3: training and access to female pilots as consultants. In turn,
Speaker 3: the script emphasizes female or emphasized female empowerment within the
Speaker 3: chain of command, showing that true strength comes not from
Speaker 3: rebellion rebellion, but from rising through the ranks of a system.
Speaker 3: While dressed in feminism, the underlying message is clear the
Speaker 3: military is the best path for female empowerment. The subconscious
Speaker 3: narrative isn't just girls can be heroes, but join the
Speaker 3: Air Force and become a real one.
Speaker 2: This wasn't just a movie. It was a stylish intergalactic
Speaker 2: enlistment poster.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna fully disagree with what was said.
Speaker 3: That's what they were trying to that's what they were
Speaker 3: pushing for, not saying that that's actually what got through,
Speaker 3: but that was their goal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's definitely a place in the military for women,
Speaker 4: absolute one hundred percent, and you can rise through the
Speaker 4: ring structure and become whatever you're looking for. Yeah, one
Speaker 4: hundred percent. There's more than one way to do that,
Speaker 4: by the way.
Speaker 5: Like, if you, for instance, are a woman listening to
Speaker 5: the show and you're you're a young lady and you're
Speaker 5: in college and you don't know exactly what you want
Speaker 5: to go for yet. You could become an engineer and
Speaker 5: like become a good one that goes and works for
Speaker 5: one of these massive companies and makes crazy money and
Speaker 5: you surpass all of your male counterparts because you're that smart.
Speaker 5: Like that's a real possibility. Or you can go and
Speaker 5: become a brain surgeon.
Speaker 4: There's so many things out there that a woman can
Speaker 4: do that would make her seem like a hero and
Speaker 4: excel and beyond her peers and all that. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: military may be that fit for a young lady in
Speaker 4: this world, but not always. Not always. And I say
Speaker 4: the same thing about a man. It's not like, oh,
Speaker 4: you know what you need to do. You need to
Speaker 4: join the military and get your life right. Oh that's
Speaker 4: not exactly a true statement, actually, but all right.
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of the women that I've met
Speaker 3: that were, you know, in the military before, I always
Speaker 3: look at them like, man, you you're more badass than me, Like,
Speaker 3: you know, I get what your point is though, that
Speaker 3: that this isn't the only way, but the military wants
Speaker 3: you to think that it's one of the only ways.
Speaker 5: I've met quite a number of female veterans, and I
Speaker 5: knew females while I was in now I was in
Speaker 5: an all male unit because I was in the infantry.
Speaker 5: But and this is before they allowed females to be
Speaker 5: in the grunts, which still blows my fucking mind.
Speaker 4: But whatever, And you know, I will say they ran
Speaker 4: the gambit. It was.
Speaker 5: It was very polarized with females in the military. The
Speaker 5: ones that were exceptional were fucking studs, They were incredible.
Speaker 4: The ones that sucked fucking sucked. Right.
Speaker 5: With men, I granted it's a boys club, right, I
Speaker 5: think it's like eighty to ninety percent male centric, so
Speaker 5: you have more of a more of a gambit to
Speaker 5: run as far as that goes. You have your star studs,
Speaker 5: you have your pieces of shit, and you have everything
Speaker 5: in between. With women, it seemed to be very much
Speaker 5: black white, very much hot or cold, very much like
Speaker 5: this person's gonna do amazing things in this branch or.
Speaker 5: This person like really needs to get the fuck out
Speaker 5: after this enlistment.
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, the next movie we get to after
Speaker 3: Captain marvel Is Blackhawk Down came out in twenty two
Speaker 3: thousand and one. The branches involved with the US Army
Speaker 3: and the DoD Blackhawk Down portrays the nineteen ninety three
Speaker 3: Battle of Mogadishue Mogadishu Moga Dishu, and the Pentagon was
Speaker 3: heavily involved in production. They provided helicopters, troops, and advisors
Speaker 3: to ensure that the US soldiers were framed as valiant
Speaker 3: victims rather than imperal aggressors. Controversial aspects of the events,
Speaker 3: such as war crimes or the chaotic aftermath, were omitted entirely.
Speaker 3: The subconscious impact is the glorification of sacrifice. Even in
Speaker 3: failed missions. The enemy is faceless, often shot from a
Speaker 3: distance or in chaotic swarms, Viewers are nudged to believe
Speaker 3: that we're the good guys even when the mission fails.
Speaker 3: Heroism is in futility becomes the takeaway, not questioning why
Speaker 3: we were there in the first place.
Speaker 4: Okay, war crimes, interesting take I've done a fair amount
Speaker 4: of research into that situation outside of the movie, and like,
Speaker 4: actually what took place? There was no war crimes that
Speaker 4: I could find anything.
Speaker 5: Now, if you're gonna question why America was there in
Speaker 5: the first place is because the UN fumbled the ball
Speaker 5: so fucking hard they had to send in the Marines
Speaker 5: to like fix it. Now, you want to get mad
Speaker 5: about the Marines being there in the first place, whatever, Fine, Okay,
Speaker 5: that's an opinion. But yeah, we had dudes get taken
Speaker 5: prisoner from that and they had to go send in
Speaker 5: rescue operations to get them back.
Speaker 4: Later.
Speaker 5: We weren't an imperial force in Somalia that we weren't
Speaker 5: trying to take it over, even set up an outpost.
Speaker 5: There was a warlord that was start as people, and
Speaker 5: I mean there's there's all kinds of things like that.
Speaker 4: That's why. That's why I also get mad whenever, Like
Speaker 4: and we've talked about the Cony twenty twelve or whatever
Speaker 4: the fuck it was, it was the same thing. Where
Speaker 4: were we at.
Speaker 5: Where was the American forces that were going in to
Speaker 5: save these kids and get rid of this evil warlord?
Speaker 4: No, No, they didn't give a fuck about that.
Speaker 5: There was no reason for us to be there, so
Speaker 5: we set up sounds like a U problem, not a
Speaker 5: US problem. So I mean, yeah, we're gonna get really
Speaker 5: pissed off about the technicalities is what does and doesn't
Speaker 5: mobilize US troops. I'm with you on that, But the
Speaker 5: situation with black haw Down itself, I didn't see any
Speaker 5: signs of a war crime anywhere, to be fat as
Speaker 5: a matter of fact, that's the rules of engagement, is.
Speaker 3: That it covered up that there were war crimes. They
Speaker 3: completely omitted them.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, whenever I did research into it, I couldn't
Speaker 5: find anything about war crimes.
Speaker 3: Well it's I just pulled it up. So the nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety three Battle of Mogadishu war crimes. It says the
Speaker 3: Battle of Mogadishu in nineteen ninety three involves significant civilian
Speaker 3: casualty and raised concerns about potential war crimes, particularly the
Speaker 3: particularly due to the actions of US forces and Somalia
Speaker 3: or Somali militious The aftermath saw accusations of excessive force
Speaker 3: and disregard for civilian safety, contributing to a complex legacy
Speaker 3: of the conflict.
Speaker 4: So that would be the war crimes civilian casualties.
Speaker 5: That's a interesting So you mean, like in a conflict
Speaker 5: zone there was civilians that were killed.
Speaker 2: In excessive amounts. I think it's what they're trying to say.
Speaker 5: And they're saying that that was done by us, not
Speaker 5: the fact that they were killing their own people. The
Speaker 5: warlord was starving his own people, they were using them
Speaker 5: as human shields, all these things. But yeah, that was
Speaker 5: Americans that killed too many civilians.
Speaker 4: Okay, you realized like they.
Speaker 5: Had nine year olds with fully automatic weapons that were
Speaker 5: firing at our guys.
Speaker 4: Like, what are we fucking talking about here? Now? I'm
Speaker 4: not saying this at you. I'm saying that the people
Speaker 4: that are gonna make these accusations like, Okay, what.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pull a Jacobism and just say I don't
Speaker 3: be knowing. I'd just be Jonathan heard that. Fucking heard that, dude.
Speaker 5: But yes, yeah, they're gonna do what they can to
Speaker 5: put the American forces in the best life possible.
Speaker 4: I'm not denying that.
Speaker 3: Either, right right obviously, Like if you're you know, uh,
Speaker 3: kind of supplying all the money and all of the
Speaker 3: military equipment, you're not going to put in the spot
Speaker 3: where you drop the ball.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: There's very few movies that I can think of that
Speaker 5: tried to show the reality of it and even showing
Speaker 5: you the ugly bits you ever heard of the movie Platoon, Yeah,
Speaker 5: Vietnam movie, right, Charlie Sheen was in it when he
Speaker 5: was early, William Dafolk was in. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 5: Force Whittaker was actually a lot of stars, A lot
Speaker 5: of stars were in this movie that showed the Vietnam War.
Speaker 5: And yes, I understand it was fictitious and all this
Speaker 5: ba ba bab. It showed some Americans that were doing
Speaker 5: the right thing, and it showed some Americans that were
Speaker 5: absolutely doing the wrong thing, and that wasn't being done
Speaker 5: as a recruitment tool.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Right right, Well, and that's the thing. Whenever you're funded.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that every single war movie ever created
Speaker 3: was funded by the d D or anything, and maybe
Speaker 3: that's a good example of one that wasn't.
Speaker 5: But they also were using Huey's, they were using military equipment,
Speaker 5: they were using all of these things. And like I
Speaker 5: could understand that they did in fact have a little
Speaker 5: bit of some liaisons or some uh you know, funding
Speaker 5: from or or the approval of the d D for
Speaker 5: certain sections of it, But I don't know. At the
Speaker 5: same time, if that was the case, I don't know
Speaker 5: if the d D would have signed off on every
Speaker 5: aspect of it because like, uh, fuck, I forget the
Speaker 5: actor's name all do with a cleft lip that played
Speaker 5: in Sniper. He the guy who ended up killing William
Speaker 5: Dafoe's character in it. But he he or Shooter, not Sniper.
Speaker 5: Yeah no, it was Sniper. Yeah, Shooter was Marky Mark No,
Speaker 5: this is the movie Sniper. He was a asid piece
Speaker 5: of shit and he was the reason why William Dafoe's character,
Speaker 5: who was an American soldier, was left and ended up
Speaker 5: getting got later on. I have a hard time believing
Speaker 5: the DD would have signed off on that.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about Luke Grimes or Joaquin Phoenix?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, not Joaquin Phoenix. Look up the movie Shooter.
Speaker 5: He arned a sniper. Excuse me, Sniper. He was the
Speaker 5: main character in that movie. And as soon as you
Speaker 5: see his face, you're gonna know him. He played in
Speaker 5: The Big Chill. Uh, he played in Fuck, He's played
Speaker 5: in a bunch of movies.
Speaker 4: Cannot remember his name.
Speaker 2: Tom Behringer, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the guy.
Speaker 5: So I mean, his character is the reason why William Dafoe,
Speaker 5: an American soldier, shot in another American soldier and then
Speaker 5: left him to die and then he actually made it
Speaker 5: back to the chopper, that whole that tragic scene with
Speaker 5: one of the best musical scores in cinematic history in
Speaker 5: my opinion.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so that's what I'm saying. It kind of made.
Speaker 5: And then they had the whole scene where those soldiers
Speaker 5: were trying to rap those Vietnamese women. Charlie Sheen's character
Speaker 5: goes in and tries to stop them, and it's a
Speaker 5: whole thing. I have a hard time believing that that
Speaker 5: was signed off on by the do O D.
Speaker 4: But maybe it was. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Mg Y Sgt. Is that Master Gunny sergeant.
Speaker 4: Master gunnery sergeant? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is it gunnery? I always, I always, I hear it
Speaker 3: both ways, gunny or gunnery.
Speaker 5: Well, so gunny is short for gunnery sergeant, but the
Speaker 5: technical term is gunnery sergeant.
Speaker 2: And then above with the Marine Corps.
Speaker 4: Ranks, gunny is an East seven and then after.
Speaker 5: That when you go to E eight, it splits off
Speaker 5: in until you have master sergeant and you have a
Speaker 5: sergeant first class. The master sergeant has two rifles in
Speaker 5: the middle. Sergeant first class is a diamond in the middle.
Speaker 5: Sergeant first class or is a or first sergeant.
Speaker 4: Excuse me. First sergeant is more of the administrative roles.
Speaker 5: Like each company will have a company first sergeant, and
Speaker 5: you'll have a battalion first sargeant or something like that.
Speaker 4: Above that is sarge major.
Speaker 5: You'll have a base sergeant major, you'll have a you know,
Speaker 5: regimental sergeant, these types of things. Master sergeant and master
Speaker 5: gunnery sergeants are dudes that stayed in their field, not
Speaker 5: to the administrative role. But and there's only so many
Speaker 5: moss that even have those ranks as a matter of fact,
Speaker 5: So a master gun's got a bursting bomb in his rank,
Speaker 5: and yeah, they're pretty much seen as subject matter experts
Speaker 5: in their field, whatever that field may be.
Speaker 3: This is why I wanted to do this show today
Speaker 3: because I knew that you would know all this terminology.
Speaker 3: I knew that you would see you've seen most of
Speaker 3: these movies to be able to like depict them in
Speaker 3: the way that they need to be.
Speaker 2: So that's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: What's interesting is is that this show was destined to
Speaker 3: have a marine on it because even hat like my
Speaker 3: original co host was a marine.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's true, that's true. It just kind of works
Speaker 4: out that way, brother.
Speaker 2: It was destiny.
Speaker 3: Nextly, We Have Lone Survivor came out in twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3: The branches involved with the US Navy, the Navy Seals,
Speaker 3: and the DoD This film is based on Marcus Lttrell's
Speaker 3: real accounts of a failed seal mission in Afghanistan, and
Speaker 3: the US Navy was deeply embedded in its production. Navy
Speaker 3: Seals consulted on the combat choreography, and the Department of
Speaker 3: Defense worked with the filmmakers to ensure that the portrayal
Speaker 3: of soldiers emphasized honor, bravery, and brotherhood even in the
Speaker 3: face of death. The military's presence on set wasn't just logistical,
Speaker 3: it was editorial at a subconscious level. Lone Survivor evokes
Speaker 3: themes of loyalty over logic. The enemy is again mostly faceless,
Speaker 3: with no political nuance or backstory, and the takeaway is
Speaker 3: America's warriors are superhuman patriots, betrayed only by the terrain
Speaker 3: or bad luck, not poor planning or questionable motives. It
Speaker 3: reinforces the never questioned the mission mentality just praise the troops.
Speaker 5: Damn So that being said, Marcus Latrell has also been
Speaker 5: and heavily heavily scrutinized for some of the things that
Speaker 5: was in that movie. As a matter of fact, I'm
Speaker 5: go ahead and share the screen again. We got a
Speaker 5: little short clip talking about Marcus Latrol being exposed.
Speaker 4: This isn't Jacob.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying this, but he even admitted that Loan
Speaker 5: Survivor was fabricated by the US Navy four recruitment. Those
Speaker 5: are his words, not Jacob's. Okay, so like we're just
Speaker 5: gonna keep it. One thought, Wow, that's a fact.
Speaker 10: He started screaming my name. He was like, Marcus Man,
Speaker 10: you gotta help me. I need help Marcus. That it
Speaker 10: got so intense that I actually put my weapon down
Speaker 10: and covered my ears because I couldn't stand to hear
Speaker 10: him die. All I want him to do is start
Speaker 10: screaming my name. They killed him, and I put my
Speaker 10: webon down in a gunfight while my best friend was
Speaker 10: getting killed. So that pretty much makes me a.
Speaker 4: Coward, you know.
Speaker 7: Even in his own words on Anderson Cooper he says
Speaker 7: that he heard Murph yelling his name that he needs help.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: On Anderson Cooper Live, I put my gun down, covered
Speaker 7: up my and I quit right then, I'm a coward.
Speaker 7: He left his buddies and quit and ran, So he
Speaker 7: wasn't in this dire straits and he wasn't crawling for
Speaker 7: seven miles like in the book. In the movie, this
Speaker 7: book was written for him to change the narrative because
Speaker 7: it was embarrassing for us.
Speaker 4: He was given an ultimatum, just like, do you.
Speaker 7: Want to be known as the seal who quit running
Speaker 7: away and left his buddies or do you want to
Speaker 7: be a millionaire? And he chose that I'm going to
Speaker 7: be a millionaire.
Speaker 10: Wow.
Speaker 5: So again, I'm not trying to throw shade. I wasn't
Speaker 5: there straight like I met if I ever met Marcus
Speaker 5: Latreull in person, Like, It's not like I would have
Speaker 5: any disrespect to throw his way. Okay, but that being said,
Speaker 5: he even admitted in multiple podcasts that the entire story
Speaker 5: was basically written for him and he has fucked up
Speaker 5: on a couple of interviews and said things that go
Speaker 5: against what the book and movie said.
Speaker 4: Tommy, take that for what you want.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is crazy. They they literally changed the entire story,
Speaker 2: not the entirety.
Speaker 5: There's sections of it that they kept true according to
Speaker 5: the research that I've.
Speaker 4: Done on it.
Speaker 5: Okay, like yes, they absolutely did catch those kids or
Speaker 5: the boy or whatever that was herding goats or whatever
Speaker 5: the case was, and they did let him go, which
Speaker 5: did kickstart all the bad stuff. The guys that got
Speaker 5: got they in the order of which they fell, that
Speaker 5: kind of thing.
Speaker 4: I think they kept this true to form, how.
Speaker 5: He got out of there, the locals that helped him
Speaker 5: escape and all this, like, yes, that that played out
Speaker 5: similar to the story. But again there's there's controversy start
Speaker 5: to finish basically, and that only has come out years
Speaker 5: after the fact. Same with Tim Kennedy, Right, he's all
Speaker 5: over the news and he's seeing as always a Green Beret,
Speaker 5: he did this and this. There's one story he's got
Speaker 5: where he had like thirty hand grenades in a bag
Speaker 5: and he was just going, he was just throwing him everywhere.
Speaker 5: But Pump and people that were on the operation with
Speaker 5: him have come forward and said, you are so full
Speaker 5: of shit. You weren't even in the location that you
Speaker 5: said you were when this took place. You never had
Speaker 5: a bag with thirty fucking handger needs.
Speaker 4: And that's bullshit.
Speaker 5: And it's yeah, man, that's a part of it. And
Speaker 5: this is not Jacob throwing shade. This is them saying
Speaker 5: things that they got caught up in after the fact.
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting.
Speaker 3: I was just looking up it was Loan like, obviously
Speaker 3: these movies are as we would know them based on
Speaker 3: true stories, right, based on yeah, right, And that's what
Speaker 3: I just typed in. I was like, was Loan Survivor
Speaker 3: based on a true story? It says, yes, Loan Survivor
Speaker 3: is based on the true story of Operation Red Wings,
Speaker 3: failed Navy seal mission. So then I was like, you
Speaker 3: know what, I wonder what percentage of a movie has
Speaker 3: to be true to be based on a true story.
Speaker 3: It says there's no legal or official percentage of truth
Speaker 3: required for a movie to claim that it's based on
Speaker 3: a true story. The phrase is incredibly flexible and often
Speaker 3: use more as a marketing tool than a factual guarantee.
Speaker 3: So based on a true story versus inspired by true
Speaker 3: events kind of shit.
Speaker 2: Yes, based on.
Speaker 3: A true story suggests that the core narrative of the
Speaker 3: main character or events actually happened, and inspired by true
Speaker 3: events allow for much more creative license. Maybe just one
Speaker 3: event or idea sparked the whole movie, so there's not
Speaker 3: any set percentage. It says studios aren't required to meet
Speaker 3: a specific threshold like fifty one percent factual accuracy to
Speaker 3: use the label. Some movies might be ninety percent true
Speaker 3: to the real story, while others might be only ten
Speaker 3: percent accurate, with characters, timelines, or outcomes changed for the
Speaker 3: dramatic effect.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Then it goes into certain examples of this. So the
Speaker 3: Texas Chainsaw Massacre was marketed as based on a true story,
Speaker 3: but it was very loosely inspired by ed Gain Gain Gain,
Speaker 3: how do you say that? Again, more fiction than fact.
Speaker 3: Another one is Catching Me If you Can. That's a
Speaker 3: really good movie, but Catch Me if you Can is
Speaker 3: more faithful to Frank Abagnail's real life, though still dramatized
Speaker 3: in parts. And then you got the conjuring claims to
Speaker 3: be based on true events, but many details are highly
Speaker 3: disputed or unverifiable.
Speaker 5: Obviously, think about this. Pearl Harbor is based on true events.
Speaker 5: The Japanese did attack Pearl Harbor, that did take place.
Speaker 5: All this shit would Ben Afleck and his love interests
Speaker 5: and all this other shit that's not true.
Speaker 2: But that's like the entirety of the movie.
Speaker 5: Like the actual attack itself is the antagonist if you will.
Speaker 4: But that's not like what the movie was about.
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It's but it's still classified as based on true events,
Speaker 4: so it's yeah, it's very murky, very very murky.
Speaker 3: Nextly, we have ACTI Valor came out in twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: The branch involved was the US Navy Seals. Act of
Speaker 3: Valor blurred the line between fiction and reality. It was
Speaker 3: shot with real Navy Seals playing themselves. This wasn't just
Speaker 3: military approved, it was military produced. The Navy used the
Speaker 3: film as a recruitment tool in demonstration of elite training.
Speaker 3: It's not a story about war. It's one hundred and
Speaker 3: ten minute live action promotional video for the Seals, complete
Speaker 3: with missions gear and patriotic sound bites. Subconsciously, the film
Speaker 3: is almost hypnotic. The lack of character development or emotion
Speaker 3: and the Seals isn't a flaw. It's the point. They're
Speaker 3: portrayed as emotionless efficient machines of justice. The message the
Speaker 3: message is emotion Cloud's duty. The clear intent was to
Speaker 3: recruit young men who fantasize about joining an elite force
Speaker 3: and to deify the military ideal of total discipline and sacrifice.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 5: So with that being said, the missions that were on
Speaker 5: that movie are based off of real missions, right, and
Speaker 5: these are things that can be maybe not fully disclosed about,
Speaker 5: like the actual locations of the actual bad guys or
Speaker 5: any of these things.
Speaker 4: That's fine.
Speaker 5: But as far as like finding a bomb maker who
Speaker 5: was trying to do a terrorist plot in America, like that,
Speaker 5: that is a real operation that did take place, right, cool,
Speaker 5: got it?
Speaker 4: Using actual seals as the actors a bit of a
Speaker 4: big swing and a miss because they sucked like it
Speaker 4: sounded like they were literally reading their lines off of paper,
Speaker 4: lights camera action, reading my lines off of paper like
Speaker 4: there was no there was no actual emotion with it.
Speaker 4: And like I understand that. They may say that was
Speaker 4: the point, dude. Mixing in some actors would have made
Speaker 4: the movie go so much better by all sense, but
Speaker 4: they just they didn't do that, And this is what
Speaker 4: you do. This is what you get when you don't
Speaker 4: use actors for acting. They were just memorizing lines and
Speaker 4: repeating them and like that was a thing and that
Speaker 4: it's it's okay, but yeah, it was based off of
Speaker 4: things that took place, operations that they could disclose for
Speaker 4: for the most part anyway.
Speaker 5: And yeah, so here's here's my problem with it. You're
Speaker 5: trying to recruit guys to join the Navy Seals. Okay
Speaker 5: with that, The recent study showed that seventy percent of
Speaker 5: military aged males in this country couldn't make it in
Speaker 5: the military if they wanted to, because they are overweight,
Speaker 5: because they have some sort of chemical imbalance, because they're
Speaker 5: problems something some they're on the spectrum in some way
Speaker 5: whatever you want to call it, well that or it's
Speaker 5: just people that are claiming that they have X, Y
Speaker 5: and Z. I have anxiety issues and I have since
Speaker 5: I was four, and it's like, well, you can't join
Speaker 5: the military, but I really wanna.
Speaker 4: It's like you you've played the victim your whole life.
Speaker 4: Would you think was gonna happen? My boy?
Speaker 2: Go meditate, that's all you needed to do.
Speaker 5: It's realistically, seventy percent could not meet the standard right now.
Speaker 5: I've just run and push ups right now if they
Speaker 5: had to. And I'm not saying you need to be
Speaker 5: able to run a fucking six minute two mile or
Speaker 5: some wild shit like that, like running two miles and
Speaker 5: twenty minutes.
Speaker 4: That is that is really easy to do. We're talking
Speaker 4: ten minutes per mile.
Speaker 5: Most people, most military age males in this country could
Speaker 5: not do that right now if they had too.
Speaker 2: What did you run your mile in? Like seven mile?
Speaker 4: Oh and the Marines we run three miles.
Speaker 2: Okay, so how long in three miles?
Speaker 5: My best time was twenty one to fifty, so about
Speaker 5: seven thirty excuse me? So yeah, but I mean my
Speaker 5: mile time was pretty dope, but I got slower as.
Speaker 4: The mile went on, you know what I'm saying, But
Speaker 4: as you do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my best like mile time I think in my
Speaker 5: life was around like a six six minute, six ten
Speaker 5: something like that.
Speaker 4: But it wasn't I wasn't sprinting that mile. I'm a
Speaker 4: distance runner. I'm not a short runner, and I could
Speaker 4: consider a one mile a very short run like it.
Speaker 4: It's not it's not hard to do four laps around
Speaker 4: a track.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, we're exact opposites in that. I can give
Speaker 3: you literally fucking lightning speed well back whenever I was
Speaker 3: playing football and stuff. But I could I could run
Speaker 3: fastest shit for a good forty meters That's about it,
Speaker 3: you know, But anything longer than that, I am yeaess dude,
Speaker 3: Like don't. And that's why I love football because and
Speaker 3: people would say like, how, how have you never been
Speaker 3: able to because I always talk about how like my my,
Speaker 3: oh shit, what is it?
Speaker 4: Cardio?
Speaker 3: My cardio has always been terrible. And they're like, well,
Speaker 3: you played football for so long. But I'm like, the
Speaker 3: thing is is that a football play lasts about three
Speaker 3: or four seconds and then you get a thirty or
Speaker 3: forty second break afterward. You know, I'm good in short spurts,
Speaker 3: but you get me like, there's no way I can
Speaker 3: play fucking soccer, Like fuck that running?
Speaker 2: No way, right.
Speaker 5: The fastest I've ever seen I do run three miles
Speaker 5: myself is fifteen minutes, three miles and fifteen minutes. But
Speaker 5: this dude, he was a Native American and he grew
Speaker 5: up on the reds, and the way his family earned
Speaker 5: their money was they would run down wild horses every
Speaker 5: day from the time he and now on ATVs on
Speaker 5: foot because they were broke. They were on the riz
Speaker 5: and they would wake up every morning and run down
Speaker 5: a pack of wild horses until one of them got tired,
Speaker 5: throw a rope around its neck, and then bring it
Speaker 5: back so it could be broken by another group. But
Speaker 5: he and his family, him, his dad, and his brothers.
Speaker 5: Every day on foot would run down wild horses. Sometimes
Speaker 5: that would take hours to do. So he was like, wait,
Speaker 5: only three miles, Oh, no problem, bro. He ran three
Speaker 5: miles in fifteen minutes. He wasn't sweating or out of
Speaker 5: breath by the end of it.
Speaker 4: He was chilling. This was This wasn't even a warm
Speaker 4: up for him. And I'm like, fuck you, dude.
Speaker 3: Some people were just fucking built different. Stamina was the
Speaker 3: word I was looking for. I couldn't spit it out
Speaker 3: for some reason.
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Not knowing for the stamina by any means.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sprints, I've never been terrible at But
Speaker 5: if you are looking for like my strongest attribute, yeah,
Speaker 5: no distance runing, but even still do you could go
Speaker 5: for a light yog for the four laps around a
Speaker 5: track and still be fine.
Speaker 4: Like you could you could jog around.
Speaker 5: We won mile in under ten minutes accidentally at a
Speaker 5: decent walking pace, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 5: like to say that seventy percent of seventeen to thirty
Speaker 5: year olds in America couldn't accomplish that task right off
Speaker 5: the rip or crank out forty push ups. That that's insane,
Speaker 5: that that's something that like most college kids could not
Speaker 5: do right now.
Speaker 3: It's like, bro, what, dude, I used to be able
Speaker 3: to run a four to six back in the day,
Speaker 3: which is fast for a white boy.
Speaker 2: I just want to throw that out there. They ain't.
Speaker 2: That ain't fast by you know, extreme athletes or anything.
Speaker 3: But for me, I was like, damn for six, all right, baby,
Speaker 3: But I mean, you get me on a mile track
Speaker 3: and I'll that'll be a ten minute for me. Dude, Like,
Speaker 3: there's just a fucking way I don't have the daminaugh
Speaker 3: for that.
Speaker 5: But the point for all of what we're talking about here, yeah,
Speaker 5: a recruitment tool for the Navy Seals. I get it, Okay,
Speaker 5: No one doesn't know who they are, right The people
Speaker 5: that fantasize about joining them one day are going to try.
Speaker 5: I forget what the attrition rate is, but I think
Speaker 5: it's like eighty percent of guys that go through BUDS
Speaker 5: do not make it. Through BUDS is basic underwater demolition school.
Speaker 5: That's the first realm of trying to become a seal.
Speaker 5: You join the Navy, you go through boot camp, then
Speaker 5: you go to BUDS.
Speaker 2: So like BUDDS was the Buddy program where you go
Speaker 2: in with like your friend or whatever.
Speaker 5: That's a different thing. Every branch has their version of
Speaker 5: the Buddy program. But BUDS as a school is basic
Speaker 5: underwater demolition school. So that's the ones where you see
Speaker 5: the guys running on the beaches with the boats on
Speaker 5: their heads.
Speaker 4: Goggins al who's going to carry the boats?
Speaker 5: That that's BUDS program, right, and most the vast majority,
Speaker 5: now I mean Green Berets, they have a success rate
Speaker 5: of I think three percent. So out of one hundred
Speaker 5: dudes that are going through Green Beret training, three of
Speaker 5: them might get a Green Beret at the end of it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think the Seals are like I want to say,
Speaker 5: it's like fifteen to twenty percent. It's been a while
Speaker 5: since I lived to the statistics, but yeah, so, I
Speaker 5: mean the guys that are already wanting to do that
Speaker 5: are going to already shoot their sh The movie probably
Speaker 5: helped the Navy's recruitment.
Speaker 4: But that's the other thing too. You might sign up
Speaker 4: to go to Seals, but if you fail out of school,
Speaker 4: you don't get kicked out of the Navy. You get
Speaker 4: sent to some other school. Now you're a supply guy
Speaker 4: or a logistics guy, or maybe you do get n
Speaker 4: P or something.
Speaker 3: Who knows, right well, the fucking recruiter will tell you
Speaker 3: can get any job you want right right basically.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing.
Speaker 5: Whenever you you have to sign up, whenever you do
Speaker 5: join the Navy and go to Seals training, you sign
Speaker 5: up for buds, right, that's the contractor signing. But then
Speaker 5: underneath that you have a secondary option just in case.
Speaker 5: And of course you're you're totally gonna make it, bro,
Speaker 5: you're already no. I could tell by looking at you
Speaker 5: you're gonna be a seal, but just in case something happens,
Speaker 5: what's another job you might want to do. That's that's
Speaker 5: probably gonna be the job you get a sign.
Speaker 3: I know seals, trust me, and I'm looking at one
Speaker 3: right here.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I've been playing Call of Duty since I
Speaker 4: was like ten, so I think I'm just pretty much
Speaker 4: ready for this right now. It's like, boy, I believe
Speaker 4: you here, sign this contract?
Speaker 3: Did you get a fifty on your as VAB You're
Speaker 3: fucking good? I mean whatever you Oh my god.
Speaker 5: That's another thing, dude. People underestimate the ASVAB scores. Yeah,
Speaker 5: passing it depending on the branch. You're going into the
Speaker 5: Marines for a while, we're only taking like I think
Speaker 5: it was a twenty seven, and they would take you.
Speaker 5: Now granted there was like two jobs you could do
Speaker 5: once you got through it, but yeah, one of them
Speaker 5: was grunt.
Speaker 2: I might add Army is way lower too, isn't it.
Speaker 4: Marines had the as the lowest. Oh really, yeah, where.
Speaker 5: That's why we're known as the crayon eaters. We're not
Speaker 5: known for our intelligence. But I will say some of
Speaker 5: the smartest dudes ever met were actually in the Marine
Speaker 5: Corps Infantry.
Speaker 4: But that's a different conversation.
Speaker 5: But so the Air Force has the highest, actually probably
Speaker 5: Space Force has the highest as of this moment, like
Speaker 5: bottom tier level. If you don't make this, then you're
Speaker 5: not even we're not even looking at you for further review.
Speaker 5: But the Seals, Yeah, you don't just have to pass it.
Speaker 5: You have to pass in certain regards and in certain criteria.
Speaker 5: So it's not just your overall score, your GT score
Speaker 5: or you're like what's called your general competence or whatever
Speaker 5: it's called that needs to be I want to say,
Speaker 5: it's like over a over a one oh five or
Speaker 5: something like that to even apply to the school. I
Speaker 5: got a I think I had like a one to
Speaker 5: fifteen or a one ten or something like that. I
Speaker 5: could have gone to a bunch of different schools, but
Speaker 5: I wanted infantry. I think I had a sixty nine
Speaker 5: overall or something along those lines.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's.
Speaker 5: It's just one of those things that like, yeah, even
Speaker 5: if you are stud physically, if you can't pass the
Speaker 5: very basics of this test, then like you also can't apply.
Speaker 5: Like that's that it takes a lot to get in,
Speaker 5: and that's the thing everybody thinks, Oh, if all else fails,
Speaker 5: just go join the military, which used to be seen
Speaker 5: as apologies to all of our female listeners.
Speaker 4: Bear with me. Here for a girl to say, you
Speaker 4: know what, fuck it, I'm gonna become a stripper. That
Speaker 4: was what it used to be to say, you know what,
Speaker 4: fuck it, I'm gonna join the army. That was the
Speaker 4: male equivalent.
Speaker 3: It's only fans now, yeah, now it's only fans. Excuse
Speaker 3: me the fuck it part?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, fuck it, I'm gonna go to show my
Speaker 5: tits for money on the internet, and.
Speaker 4: Like nobody's I'm not knocking, I'm not throwing shame.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get in a bag and sell it to
Speaker 3: some guy working at the Chinese restaurant and he's gonna
Speaker 3: which also is a real thing.
Speaker 4: If you're able to shit in a jar and sell
Speaker 4: it to make money. Listen, who am I to tell
Speaker 4: you there's a sucker born every minute.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm saying, dude, they fucking eat it. I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, what is wrong with people?
Speaker 5: Scat kink is a thing. It's gross, it's fucking nasty.
Speaker 4: But anyway, anyway, it used to be for a young
Speaker 4: man that had nothing else going for him, just.
Speaker 5: Fucking I'm gonna join the arm here, I'm gonna join
Speaker 5: the navy. That was their equivalent of fuck it, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna be a stripper. And now you're telling me that
Speaker 5: seventy percent of dudes couldn't do that if they had
Speaker 5: no other options. It's like, bro, we we as a
Speaker 5: society have gone down quite a bit, don't you think.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of people out there nowadays that
Speaker 3: like they're almost proud of what's wrong with them, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, professional victim mentality has become such a. It's like
Speaker 5: cool to be marginalized. It's insane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I have crippling anxiety. It's popular now. I'm like,
Speaker 3: why why is that a?
Speaker 4: Why is that?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 2: I don't get it, you know, I.
Speaker 4: Don't understand it.
Speaker 5: You see these dudes that like do podcasts and then
Speaker 5: they'll even talk about it after the fact, Like Bro,
Speaker 5: after the interview, I had to just like sit on
Speaker 5: the couch for thirty minutes to just like decompress.
Speaker 4: My anxiety was so high. Where are your fucking nuts, dude?
Speaker 4: Where are your I mean.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie like I don't. I don't get
Speaker 3: nervous before a show or anything like that. But whenever
Speaker 3: we went up on stage for bro Grove, I was
Speaker 3: absolutely shitting bricks. Okay, I kept my composure, but inside
Speaker 3: I was fucking loosing my shit.
Speaker 5: Public speaking is different. Right now, you've seen me multiple times.
Speaker 5: I have no issues doing public speaking. In fact, some
Speaker 5: would say I.
Speaker 4: Thrive in that environment.
Speaker 5: Certain people like that's a real like fear that they have,
Speaker 5: And I understand this. Public speaking is a thing that
Speaker 5: like it takes a second to get used to cool.
Speaker 5: But on a pod, dude, you're having a one on
Speaker 5: one conversation and you just got anxiety from talking to
Speaker 5: a guy.
Speaker 3: Well, they're worried about like is their filter good enough
Speaker 3: to where they're not gonna say something that they shouldn't say.
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a thing.
Speaker 4: Ow loud you sound You heard how gay that sounded? Right?
Speaker 4: Oh wow?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's full on lamb. Don't get me wrong, but
Speaker 3: I get it. I mean, I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker 3: It's it's a weakness, but you know, worked over time,
Speaker 3: you you know, you kind of build up that momentum
Speaker 3: and then you forget about your anxiety absolutely.
Speaker 5: I mean, but that's the thing you got These people
Speaker 5: there on like, oh I have to take three Sannox
Speaker 5: every day for even get out of bed.
Speaker 4: Well it's like, yeah, the military doesn't want you. Holy fuck.
Speaker 3: Speaking of the military, let's get to the next movie,
Speaker 3: and that is The hurt Locker came out in twenty
Speaker 3: two thousand and eight. The branches involved, or the branch involved,
Speaker 3: was the US Army. Although not as closely tied to
Speaker 3: the Pentagon as others, the hurt Lockers still receive logistical
Speaker 3: support from the military and was allowed to shoot on
Speaker 3: some of the US military basis. It follows an EOD
Speaker 3: explosive ordnance disposable which you brought up unit in Iraq,
Speaker 3: focusing on the psychological tool of war. While it flirt
Speaker 3: with ambiguity, the protagonist is still portrayed as addicted to war,
Speaker 3: a man defined by chaos but noble for enduring it.
Speaker 3: Subconscious programming here is subtler. War becomes a drug and
Speaker 3: the soldier is romanticized for giving up family and peace
Speaker 3: for the greater cause. In quotes, even trauma becomes heroism.
Speaker 3: It subtly conditions viewers to sympathize with military mindsets, reinforcing
Speaker 3: that some men are just quote unquote built for war
Speaker 3: and we need them, without questioning why warstart in the
Speaker 3: first place.
Speaker 4: Agreed, I agree with everything that was just said.
Speaker 5: Actually, I do believe that certain dudes are built for
Speaker 5: that and we do need them. It's like you, you
Speaker 5: don't want we don't want war?
Speaker 4: Right? War is bad.
Speaker 5: I know that I say a lot of things about it. Okay,
Speaker 5: but let's just put all cards on the table. War
Speaker 5: is hell, okay, and it is not fun.
Speaker 4: Is not good. You do not want to send your
Speaker 4: sons to fight in some conflict in some form in land. Okay,
Speaker 4: nobody genuinely wakes up feeling like that's what we need
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, you need good men that
Speaker 5: are willing to do bad things in order to have
Speaker 5: your safety and security.
Speaker 4: That's just the way of the world. I'm very sorry,
Speaker 4: but you need pipe hitters.
Speaker 5: You don't want them, You really don't want these goons
Speaker 5: to exist, but fucking you need some pipe hitting goons
Speaker 5: when the times come.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like, you know, the people that we're talking about,
Speaker 3: like defunding the police, right, so fucking stupid. Everybody that
Speaker 3: was on that board, they were like, well, police they're
Speaker 3: always just they're always beating up the innocent people and
Speaker 3: shit like that, until you know you have a burglar
Speaker 3: and that burglar has a gun, and who you're gonna
Speaker 3: call because Ghostbusters was just a movie and uh, the
Speaker 3: police you wanted to defund. So now you're kind of
Speaker 3: just fending for yourself. Now you want to retract all
Speaker 3: your statements and you look like an idiot.
Speaker 4: It'd be like that, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a part of it.
Speaker 5: So yeah, eod boys are psychotic in the best way possible,
Speaker 5: and they're they're fucked up in the head. Like, I
Speaker 5: don't think I've ever met a sane EOD tech in
Speaker 5: my life. You have to be a little bit fucking
Speaker 5: crazy to defuse bombs that were meant to be undeffusible, right, Like,
Speaker 5: you know, the every time you step up to the plate,
Speaker 5: like there is a real possibility that they won't find
Speaker 5: pieces to send back home. Like you have to come
Speaker 5: to grips with that and be at peace with that
Speaker 5: reality every time you gear up.
Speaker 4: Brother, First of all, God bless you. Secondly, this let
Speaker 4: this man cook. He's not gonna be okay when he
Speaker 4: comes home. Let him fucking be.
Speaker 3: I mean to be honest, it's probably there's probably a
Speaker 3: little bit of solace within the mindset of something like that.
Speaker 3: If you're going up there to defuse a fucking bomb,
Speaker 3: you know you're probably not going to suffer if it
Speaker 3: goes off, You know what I'm saying, Like you're fucking
Speaker 3: done within a second.
Speaker 5: I will say that EOD is the only job in
Speaker 5: the Middle military where if at any time you decide
Speaker 5: that you're done, you can take the badge off. You
Speaker 5: slam it on the commander's desk and say I'm done,
Speaker 5: and they'll they'll put you in some other position somewhere.
Speaker 5: You have to be one percent in your correct frame
Speaker 5: of mind to be in that job.
Speaker 4: There's a motorcycle club as a matter of fact, EOD
Speaker 4: that's completely comprised of EOD text from multiple branches. You
Speaker 4: have to be in the job for at least eight
Speaker 4: years before you can ever try to be a part
Speaker 4: of the club. They need to know you're on that
Speaker 4: level of fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh, shout out to them, we need them, Oh we do,
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 5: Next but yes, again, you're never gonna have one of
Speaker 5: these guys on a counter sniper operation.
Speaker 4: That's fucking stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're not gonna have crippling, crippling anxiety for
Speaker 3: a job like that, you know.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: Nextly we have Zero Dark thirty came out in twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: The branches involved with the CIA and the DoD. Zero
Speaker 3: Dark thirty was made with.
Speaker 5: That's the one we were talking about thirteen hours. The
Speaker 5: other movie, Zero Dark thirty.
Speaker 2: All right, and Benghazi. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Zero DARC thirty was made with direct assistance from the CIA,
Speaker 3: who provided access to classified information and brief the filmmakers
Speaker 3: on the Bin Laden raid. The agency hope to rebrand
Speaker 3: itself post Iraq War scandals by highlighting its role in
Speaker 3: tracking down America's most wanted torture. Scenes, although controversial, were
Speaker 3: framed as unpleasant but effective, subtly suggesting in quotes enhanced
Speaker 3: interrogation played a necessary role. The subconscious takeaway is that
Speaker 3: extreme measures are justified in the war on terror by
Speaker 3: showing the main character, a determined woman, as emotionally numb
Speaker 3: and obsessive. It frames obsession with justice as virtue. Even
Speaker 3: when the methods cross moral boundaries, the end justifies the means.
Speaker 3: This was psychological priming at the highest level.
Speaker 7: Damn.
Speaker 5: It was about ben Lauden or Benghazi. I don't know
Speaker 5: if I've ever actually seen zero Dark thirty. It's okay, so
Speaker 5: what about Benghazi?
Speaker 4: We were wrong?
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, So it was about the raid that killed
Speaker 5: bin Laden, which also good God, that whole operation start to.
Speaker 4: Finish was fucked. They brought two helicopters and one of
Speaker 4: them crashed and everybody inside died and all this other shit,
Speaker 4: and then afterwards they took the body and sunk it
Speaker 4: in the ocean, and it was Yeah, there's there's a
Speaker 4: lot of controversy surrounding that operation as well.
Speaker 3: It was one of the Ben's ben Laden Benghazi, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's really looking at like almost training
Speaker 3: the people who are under this hypnosis as they're watching
Speaker 3: the movie that it's like patriotic to be emotionally numb,
Speaker 3: obsessive and using that as just like justice as virtue.
Speaker 3: So that's the subconscious kind of programming that are in
Speaker 3: these types of movies. They want people like that, which
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not I'm not here to say that
Speaker 3: every subconscious programming that the military puts out is inherently
Speaker 3: evil and bad, because I think you need people like that,
Speaker 3: which you know, it's it's almost like a bad signal,
Speaker 3: you know, it's like, well, look, we got to throw
Speaker 3: this out there or else nobody's gonna know the fucking
Speaker 3: you know, we need Batman, And I think that that's
Speaker 3: probably you know, their angle on it, or one of
Speaker 3: the angles, not the entire one, but one of them.
Speaker 5: You need to be able to put the emotions aside
Speaker 5: to get the job done.
Speaker 4: That's absolutely a fact.
Speaker 5: And I'm not even just in war zones, Like how
Speaker 5: many times have you even working at a pizza joint
Speaker 5: you got there, the entire situation was fucks you knew
Speaker 5: you had to just lock in and just hone in
Speaker 5: for a couple hours until everything got situated.
Speaker 2: It happens everywhere.
Speaker 3: You gotta get that flow state going, baby to slap
Speaker 3: them Pepperoni's on there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: And I'm not equating that to war fighting.
Speaker 5: But my point is that to some degree, everybody's got
Speaker 5: to be able to lock in, tune everything else out,
Speaker 5: tunnel vision, and get a job done. In the military, yeah,
Speaker 5: you need guys that are able to do that and
Speaker 5: put emotions aside for the greater good to get the
Speaker 5: job done. And to your point, yeah, I mean everybody
Speaker 5: gets brainwalled in some way, shape or form at boot camp,
Speaker 5: which I actually believe that this is brainwashing for a
Speaker 5: positive cause you.
Speaker 4: Get a perfect example of this.
Speaker 3: You get problem with the problem with brainwashing though, is
Speaker 3: that yeah, it suits a purpose for sure for the
Speaker 3: job that needs done. But it's not like that brainwashing
Speaker 3: is like disconnected whenever you get out of the service,
Speaker 3: and that's probably part of the issue.
Speaker 5: I think, But it's not always a bad thing. Now,
Speaker 5: there is something that absolutely is right. These guys that
Speaker 5: like are still in the trenches and they cannot disassociate
Speaker 5: and like, okay, fine, and that's the levels of PTSD
Speaker 5: for shit like that. But you don't get PTSD just
Speaker 5: from going to boot camp and go working some logistics
Speaker 5: job somewhere.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 5: But what you do is you get brainwashed in a
Speaker 5: sense of like, all right, you get fifty dudes, one
Speaker 5: from every state in the country, different backgrounds, different socioeconomic classes,
Speaker 5: different races, different religions, everything, and you make them live
Speaker 5: three inches apart from each other for the next six months.
Speaker 4: You'll get a sense of camaraderie.
Speaker 5: You'll get a sense of like going through the suck
Speaker 5: together makes you have a tighter bond, right, And yes,
Speaker 5: there's a little bit of some brainwashing that takes place there,
Speaker 5: but also you learn how to put your feelings aside
Speaker 5: to accomplish the job. I and this is what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: like a positive brainwashing.
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting though, I wonder if they ever
Speaker 3: looked into reverse brainwashing, Like do you think that that
Speaker 3: would be a positive thing, Like maybe whenever you're coming
Speaker 3: out of the service, or you're coming back from active
Speaker 3: duty or something like that, is there anything that would
Speaker 3: you know, some kind of hypnotic suggestion that you can
Speaker 3: give somebody that, like, look, you were only trained to
Speaker 3: have this mindset so that you can go over there
Speaker 3: and do what you were meant to do. But now
Speaker 3: you're back in the real world. You love your you
Speaker 3: love your wife, you love your kids. You're a good husband,
Speaker 3: you're a good father, you're a good worker at your job.
Speaker 3: You love being able to supply for your family. And
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, if that's possible, I
Speaker 3: think that that should be something that would be that
Speaker 3: could be implemented.
Speaker 5: There's ay that's offered through the VA for literally this,
Speaker 5: but I mean for especially guys that are like taking
Speaker 5: prisoner and are tortured and brainwashed in that regard. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: there's all kinds of like debriefing, de brainwashing that takes place.
Speaker 5: Don't get me wrong, but again we're talking about a
Speaker 5: brainwashing quote unquote that makes you a productive human being.
Speaker 5: So many dudes that I met in boot camp, a
Speaker 5: lot of them great guys had some work experience, were
Speaker 5: there to do a job, and like they already had
Speaker 5: the right mindset getting in there. Other guys were fucking
Speaker 5: useless and like had no skill set to offer to
Speaker 5: anyone or anything. They were coddled their entire life. They
Speaker 5: had no idea what the real world was about, and
Speaker 5: not even like combat, just being a normal, productive adult
Speaker 5: human being. And so you had to break them down
Speaker 5: and break them out of that little uh belief that
Speaker 5: mommy and daddy be able to take care of them,
Speaker 5: and you had to teach them how to stand on
Speaker 5: their own two feet and be a man Jackets, that's
Speaker 5: really I mean, there is a level of that, yeah,
Speaker 5: but more like just you know what I mean, dudes,
Speaker 5: and for anybody out there that doesn't, I'm not trying
Speaker 5: to offend anybody with my statement here, Just bear with me.
Speaker 5: Do you know how many guys didn't know how to
Speaker 5: tie a tie at boot camp? That blew my mind.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 4: I wasn't trying to offend nobody. I didn't know if
Speaker 4: that was only ever.
Speaker 2: Worn a tie I think one time in my life,
Speaker 2: and that was from my wedding.
Speaker 5: Most of these guys either a netting, come from a
Speaker 5: position where they even owned a suit growing up, right,
Speaker 5: or they didn't have a dad growing up to teach
Speaker 5: them how to tie a tie, so they never did
Speaker 5: these things.
Speaker 4: And that's my point.
Speaker 5: You get guys from all different types of walks of life,
Speaker 5: and it's time to teach you how to iron your clothing,
Speaker 5: how to make your bed, how to properly tend to
Speaker 5: your own personal hygiene.
Speaker 4: You would be fucked shocked.
Speaker 5: How many of these people didn't know that you should
Speaker 5: brush your teeth more than twice a day, more than
Speaker 5: once a day.
Speaker 3: It's like crazy the type of dad that you have though, Like,
Speaker 3: for example, my dad was extremely strict.
Speaker 2: And it very very you know, short fuse kind of thing.
Speaker 3: So if he was ever teaching me anything, and he
Speaker 3: would be like, all right, watch me, watch me as
Speaker 3: I do this, And he wouldn't say anything as I'm
Speaker 3: you know, as he's teaching me how to work on
Speaker 3: a car or tie a tie or you know shit
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: It would just be like, I have to watch him.
Speaker 3: If I if I have to ask any questions, who
Speaker 3: fucking all hell is going to break loose? And so
Speaker 3: then at the end of you know, him showing you something,
Speaker 3: he would be like he would be like, all right,
Speaker 3: you get it, and you you don't get it, but
Speaker 3: you don't want to say that you don't get it
Speaker 3: because you're you're almost in fear of conflict.
Speaker 4: You know, I understand this, right, But that's my point.
Speaker 5: You get guys from all different backgrounds and you have
Speaker 5: to get them on the same page and moving forward
Speaker 5: in the same direction with a common goal, with a
Speaker 5: common attitude to accomplish that. There is a bit of
Speaker 5: some what some might call brainwashing that takes place, but again,
Speaker 5: that's not unproductive and that's not something that you would
Speaker 5: necessarily want to d.
Speaker 4: You know, undo to yourself.
Speaker 5: You you would want to take that kind of knowledge
Speaker 5: in fortitude and can do attitude in you know, forward
Speaker 5: with entire.
Speaker 3: I wasn't saying that, you know, you would want to
Speaker 3: do one hundred percent wipe by any means. I'm just
Speaker 3: talking about, you know, maybe some of the issues that
Speaker 3: would or could carry over into your real life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they have.
Speaker 5: They have a lot of different types of therapy for
Speaker 5: different types of PTSD. Not all are combat related, not
Speaker 5: all or you know, trauma affects people different ways, dude.
Speaker 4: I remember seeing a meme.
Speaker 5: It was like a chihuahuah and a Saint Bernard and
Speaker 5: they had both gone through a mud puddle that was
Speaker 5: like eight inches tall.
Speaker 4: Right, And it was like, just because you went through
Speaker 4: the same experience doesn't mean it hits you the same way. Right.
Speaker 5: Everybody deals with situations differently. Some guys get to combat
Speaker 5: and they get shot at and.
Speaker 4: They love it. This is their shit. They thrive in
Speaker 4: this environment.
Speaker 5: Other guys get shot at and they break down and
Speaker 5: they suffer serious trauma because of it. No shade being
Speaker 5: thrown on either side of this coin. Everybody deals with
Speaker 5: things in different ways. So yeah, so yeah, there's therapy
Speaker 5: and stuff like that to answer your question, to help
Speaker 5: somebody break away from who they once were into who
Speaker 5: they are now. And that's also something that a lot
Speaker 5: of veterans suffer from, not just combat vets, but when
Speaker 5: you're in the military, you have a sense of purpose,
Speaker 5: You have a sense of who you are, and I
Speaker 5: don't like the fact that a lot of people attach
Speaker 5: who they are to their job title in any way.
Speaker 5: But at the same time, there's lanes to it, right.
Speaker 5: Your rank is one line of that lane. Your billet
Speaker 5: or your job or your assigned role is the other lane.
Speaker 5: And as long as you stay between the two lines
Speaker 5: in your lane, you're doing great. Right Now, you get
Speaker 5: out of the military, there's no lines. There's no lines,
Speaker 5: and everybody is swerving over in this lane, in that lane.
Speaker 5: Then I get looked at like the asshole for telling
Speaker 5: this person get the fuck back in their lane and
Speaker 5: get out of mind. It's a transitional period and a
Speaker 5: lot of that are and suffer with that because they
Speaker 5: feel like they lose themselves, they lose their sense of purpose.
Speaker 5: They don't learn until years later that no, dude, it's
Speaker 5: on you now. You create your purpose. You got to
Speaker 5: get out there and find your purpose, whatever that might be.
Speaker 5: But you also have the freedom to do that now
Speaker 5: and figure it out for yourself. And that's scary for
Speaker 5: a lot of guys.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of people that definitely define themselves
Speaker 3: by their job title, and sometimes it's a little bit cringey,
Speaker 3: like you know, working in the plant, Like those guys
Speaker 3: that have those big trucks and they got a fucking
Speaker 3: dekel on the back of their window that says iron worker.
Speaker 3: You know what it's like, all right, Bud? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 3: surely you have something more to you than just your job,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 4: But that's a whole thing.
Speaker 5: It's like all they got going for them is that thing,
Speaker 5: you know, And it's a and I feel bad for
Speaker 5: them in one sense, but also like, okay, you found
Speaker 5: something that.
Speaker 4: Speaks to you.
Speaker 5: You love your job, even though every time I ask
Speaker 5: you about it, all you do is bitch and complain
Speaker 5: about things about your job. But like, whatever, Okay, if
Speaker 5: that was that's your sense of purpose, then cool.
Speaker 3: That was something that I used to see a lot
Speaker 3: whenever I was working offshore. Dude, the captains just love
Speaker 3: putting a decal, captain whatever, so and so it's like,
Speaker 3: all right, but I mean, you think you're gonna get
Speaker 3: more respect in traffic or you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, what do you think you're going to get.
Speaker 4: Out of that?
Speaker 5: I mean, I remember I was a I find I
Speaker 5: got to a foreman position once upon a time and like,
Speaker 5: to me, that didn't okay, cool, I'm forming over a
Speaker 5: crew over a pipe yard, all right, and like it
Speaker 5: didn't it didn't matter to me.
Speaker 4: But to these other guys, like bro, you made foreman
Speaker 4: before you were thirty? WHOA, I'm like, and so, what
Speaker 4: that's it's my job.
Speaker 3: Imagine like putting a decol on the back of your
Speaker 3: car where you just butt podcaster, you know, no, so ridiculous.
Speaker 4: It's like I tried telling these dudes, it's like my
Speaker 4: life starts when I clock out of this bitch, Like,
Speaker 4: this is not my life for the ten to twelve
Speaker 4: hours that I'm here.
Speaker 5: This is what I'm doing to provide for my family.
Speaker 5: My life is on the other side of that gate,
Speaker 5: big dog. I'm sorry. As soon as I hit my car,
Speaker 5: i am all. I'm a different person. I go home
Speaker 5: and do my thing. I'm here because I have to be,
Speaker 5: not because I'm called to be here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, we got a lot to burn
Speaker 3: throughcast half hour. Speaking of captains, We're gonna go Captain
Speaker 3: Phillips twenty thirteen. The branch involved was the US Navy.
Speaker 3: This dramatization of the Marisk So you say that Marisk
Speaker 3: Alabama hijacking, I think it's like the shipping container Marisk.
Speaker 2: Isn't that what that is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the company, the ship and company.
Speaker 2: I think it's in Marisk anyway.
Speaker 3: The dramatization of the Marisk Alabama hijacking receives support from
Speaker 3: the US Navy, who even allowed use of real destroyers
Speaker 3: and see in the climatic climactic rescue scene. The film
Speaker 3: portrays the military as surgical, righteous, and above all necessary.
Speaker 3: When diplomacy fails, the message is clear, a bullet from
Speaker 3: a seal is the solution. Subconsciously, it programs viewers to
Speaker 3: associate modern piracy, which is deeply linked to systemic exploitation
Speaker 3: of African nations, with pure criminality. There is no context,
Speaker 3: only chaos and heroism. Captain Phillips isn't just a victim.
Speaker 3: He becomes a symbol of the vulnerable West, protected by
Speaker 3: only a strong, ever ready US military.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, a couple things to break down on that. One,
Speaker 5: piracy is majority done in the African nations. That's not
Speaker 5: like a propaganda thing.
Speaker 4: That's a correct statement as a matter of fact.
Speaker 5: Right now, Jonathan, you and I can go and place
Speaker 5: money on the Somali stock exchange. Do you know what
Speaker 5: we be betting on which pirate crew takes the largest
Speaker 5: loot this week? You can read, Yes, that is the
Speaker 5: Somali stock exchange quote unquote. That's a real thing you're doing. Wow,
Speaker 5: And it's not Yeah, that's that's a part of them.
Speaker 5: It's systemic. Yeah, it is because these are poor countries
Speaker 5: and that's the best shot they got it. Earning something
Speaker 5: is from you know, throwing explosives around the bottom leg
Speaker 5: of an oil rig and ransoming off the crew to
Speaker 5: the company that sent them there.
Speaker 4: Things like this happen all the time, like weekly. Okay,
Speaker 4: Captain Phillips knew this, and his crew said, why don't
Speaker 4: we go this way where the pirates were out of
Speaker 4: range of the pirates. Let's do this. He was trying
Speaker 4: to make a deadline that they had way more than
Speaker 4: enough time to make. He chose that route on purpose
Speaker 4: and knowing that it was dangerous, and then got what
Speaker 4: was coming to him in that regard. So again this
Speaker 4: whole making the public feel like the victim of the
Speaker 4: poor Westerner and these these mean Africans and like, okay, yes,
Speaker 4: some of that might be true, but he's not a victim.
Speaker 5: He put himself from that position. So yeah, some things
Speaker 5: on that happen. Anyway, the seals did do a great job,
Speaker 5: and that was true to form. They actually did take
Speaker 5: the sniper shots from the bow or stern, I don't
Speaker 5: know of the destroyer.
Speaker 4: And took out all the pirates in one shot, well
Speaker 4: like six dudes that all fired at the exact same time.
Speaker 4: So that's dope.
Speaker 2: Oh okay.
Speaker 3: Nextly we have Pearl Harbor two thousand and one. The
Speaker 3: branches involved where the US Navy and the DoD. Michael
Speaker 3: Bay's Pearl Harbor received full Pentagon cooperation from access to
Speaker 3: Navy ships, to airfields and weaponry. While the film veers
Speaker 3: into romance, the battle scenes were meticulously coordinated with the
Speaker 3: DoD to ensure historical reverence and patriotic awe. The narrative
Speaker 3: subtly blames the Japanese without deep exploration of geopolitical tensions,
Speaker 3: making it easy to rally around American victimhood and vengeance.
Speaker 3: At a subconscious level. It invokes a sacred trauma, Pearl
Speaker 3: Harbor as the unifying origin story of American World War
Speaker 3: II glory. Emotional manipulation is rife. Swelling, meal music, slow
Speaker 3: motion death scenes, and stoic soldier sacrifices all work to
Speaker 3: fuse nationalism with sentimentality.
Speaker 2: It isn't just history, it's mythology.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 5: Like I said, they did good as far as the
Speaker 5: battle scenes are concerned, and that was true as far
Speaker 5: as the chain of events that took place. But yeah,
Speaker 5: the whole love story thing, it wasn't necessary.
Speaker 2: That's what we would call creative liberties.
Speaker 3: Nextly, we have your movie Behind Enemy Lines two thousand
Speaker 3: and one, the branches involved with the US Navy and
Speaker 3: the DoD Behind Enemy Lines was released in the wake
Speaker 3: of nine to eleven. Though it was technically in production
Speaker 3: before the attacks, it became perfectly timed. With it became
Speaker 3: perfectly timed propaganda. The US Navy granted permission to use carriers, aircraft,
Speaker 3: and personnel, but only after several script changes. The Pentagon
Speaker 3: insisted that the film make it clear that the American
Speaker 3: military acts with moral superiority and technical precision, even when
Speaker 3: the bureaucrats failed them. The subconscious message is that oak soldiers,
Speaker 3: those who disobey orders for the quote unquote right reason,
Speaker 3: are still heroes. The enemy, in this case, the Serbian forces,
Speaker 3: is painted with broad strokes merciless, lawless, and animalistic. Viewers
Speaker 3: are taught to see American military personnel as not just warriors,
Speaker 3: but moral arbiters, capable of transcending politics to do what's
Speaker 3: in quotes, right.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah. If you want to look at the
Speaker 4: history of what took place in Bosnia, and you know,
Speaker 4: the whole thing with the Serbian and the genocide and
Speaker 4: all that they were merciless. They were animals like that.
Speaker 4: They they they genocidally killed an entire race of people
Speaker 4: in a certain region of the world, and that was
Speaker 4: about to go unspoken of until this pilot got the
Speaker 4: evidence to prove it, and then the international court system
Speaker 4: was able to step in and do some things.
Speaker 5: But like, yeah, yeah, I'll want you one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: I don't know what he did to necessarily disobey orders.
Speaker 5: He was running for his life for the majority of
Speaker 5: the movie, But all right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting that it was it did happen or
Speaker 3: they released This is the one that we said that
Speaker 3: it was due to be released mid January and then
Speaker 3: it ended up being released November thirtieth of two thousand
Speaker 3: and one. It's interesting, though, because we talk about how
Speaker 3: they you know, I don't know if it was subconscious
Speaker 3: programming or there were people in the know that absolutely
Speaker 3: knew that something like nine to eleven was going to
Speaker 3: be happening. You know, we talk about the insurance that
Speaker 3: was taken out for terrorist insurance that was in July
Speaker 3: or August of that year before nine to eleven, And
Speaker 3: it almost makes it very interesting timing that this movie
Speaker 3: was already scripted and like edited and getting ready to
Speaker 3: be posted, well posted in movie theaters, you know, just
Speaker 3: months after. You know, it's almost like maybe somebody in
Speaker 3: there new.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and okay, now I'm thinking about it. Gene Hackman's
Speaker 5: character rip Gene Hackman. He did go against the bureaucracy
Speaker 5: and the orders of his superiors to go back and
Speaker 5: get this pilot. He was ordered to pretty much let
Speaker 5: the pilot like die, like, you know, just whatever. It's
Speaker 5: a casualty, it's an accident, but it's gonna cause even
Speaker 5: more of an international crisis and this and this, and
Speaker 5: he's like, hmm, fuck you, We're gonna go get our boy.
Speaker 5: And because of that, he was relieved of command. As
Speaker 5: a matter of fact, he was offered some administrative job
Speaker 5: in DC somewhere. He instead chose to retire with the
Speaker 5: respect of the crew and those that served under him. Yeah,
Speaker 5: fucking I would say that would be a hero in
Speaker 5: that regard.
Speaker 3: Okay, next movie we have is The Guardian two thousand
Speaker 3: and six. The branch involved was obviously the US Coast Guard.
Speaker 3: This Kevin Costner Ashton Kutcher film was a full blown
Speaker 3: collaboration with the US Coast Guard, who used it as
Speaker 3: a recruitment film disguised as a rescue drama. Real Coastguard aircraft,
Speaker 3: training centers, and even personnel were used to give it authenticity.
Speaker 3: In exchange, the filmmakers allowed the Service to review the
Speaker 3: script to ensure accuracy and proper tone. At a psychological level,
Speaker 3: the Guardian sells the Coastguard as not only life saving,
Speaker 3: but spiritually redemptive. It elevates the service from bureaucratic obscurity
Speaker 3: to divine purpose. Sacrifice becomes sacred, and discipline is glamorized.
Speaker 3: Young viewers are emotionally cued to associate water rescue and
Speaker 3: uniforms with honor, brotherhood, and personal transformation. Okay, she did that,
Speaker 3: I would say it did that. It fucking inspired me.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, I might go join this.
Speaker 2: I was also like a huge Ashen Kutcher fan back
Speaker 2: in the day, not now.
Speaker 5: It was more of a story of a guy who
Speaker 5: was running from his past at his home that wasn't
Speaker 5: his fault at all, trying to make something of himself
Speaker 5: super far away from home, and because he was some
Speaker 5: sort of a stud swimmer, the cadre who was in
Speaker 5: charge of training him had to put him in his place.
Speaker 5: That seems to be the overarching theme in the movie.
Speaker 5: It was a Coast Guard recruiting tool, and good god,
Speaker 5: the coasts have not had a decent movie before or since,
Speaker 5: I might add.
Speaker 3: So, Yeah, nextly, we have clear and Present Danger From
Speaker 3: nineteen ninety four, the branches involved with the CIA and
Speaker 3: the Department of Defense film. This film, adaptation of a
Speaker 3: Tom Clancy novel, had support from both the Pentagon and
Speaker 3: CIA consultants. The government wanted to control how covert operations
Speaker 3: were portrayed, particularly the depiction of black ops missions in
Speaker 3: Latin America. While the film does does show some internal
Speaker 3: conflict and cover ups, the end message supports the intelligence
Speaker 3: community as being led by moral patriots like Jack Ryan. Subconsciously,
Speaker 3: it instills the idea that while bad actors exist in
Speaker 3: the government, the institutions themselves are sound and salvageable. Jack
Speaker 3: Ryan is the quote unquote good guy within the system.
Speaker 3: Within the system trope, conditioning viewers to trust the institution,
Speaker 3: not the individual players. Its classic controlled descent present present
Speaker 3: the illusion of corruption, but reassure the audience that the
Speaker 3: system has self correcting heroes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, shouts out to Harrison Ford. One of the better roles.
Speaker 4: I might add, I don't think I've seen him in
Speaker 4: many bad ones, but yeah, clear in Prisent Danger, I
Speaker 4: was a banger of a movie.
Speaker 3: Nextly we have Argo twenty twelve. The branch involved was
Speaker 3: the CIA. Argo was made in close collaboration with the CIA,
Speaker 3: which used the film as a way to rehabilitate its
Speaker 3: image after years of controversy. The agency provided access to
Speaker 3: declassified materials, arranged interviews with operatives, and help shape the
Speaker 3: portrayal of its involvement in the nineteen seventy nine Iran
Speaker 3: hostage crisis. The former CIA operative Tony Mendez, was heavily consulted,
Speaker 3: and the CIA took credit for the successful rescue operation.
Speaker 3: The subliminal message is clear, the CIA saves lives, works
Speaker 3: behind the scenes, and deserves public gratitude, not scrutiny. If only,
Speaker 3: if only we could dress the CIA argo. Argo doesn't
Speaker 3: dwell on the political causes of the crisis or the
Speaker 3: broader Middle East chaos linked to US foreign policy. Instead,
Speaker 3: it creates a feel good narrative that humanizes the CIA
Speaker 3: and frames them as an international or as international problem solvers,
Speaker 3: not global medalers, which is actually what they are.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So the breakdown of this one.
Speaker 5: On November fourth, nineteen seventy nine, militants stormed the US
Speaker 5: embassy in Tehran, Iran. This is right before the Islamic
Speaker 5: Republic took over and all these things, right, this is
Speaker 5: around that time when the revolution was taking place and
Speaker 5: the Ayatola took over. But anyway, they took over the embassy,
Speaker 5: taking sixty six American hostages. Amid the chaos, six Americans
Speaker 5: managed to slip away and find refuge with the Canadian ambassador.
Speaker 5: Knowing that it's just a matter of time before the
Speaker 5: refugees are are found in like the executed at the
Speaker 5: US government calls in an extractor, Tony Mendez played by Benifleck,
Speaker 5: to rescue them. Mendez's plan is to pose as a
Speaker 5: Hollywood producer, scouting locations in Iran to train the refugees
Speaker 5: to act as his film crew. So okay, yeah, that's
Speaker 5: a story that actually took place.
Speaker 3: Apparently, all right, we're gonna keep on rolling to the
Speaker 3: two thousand and three movie called The Recruit. The branch
Speaker 3: involved was a CIA. This thriller was practically a recruitment
Speaker 3: film for the CIA. It starred al Pacino, and Colin Ferrell,
Speaker 3: with much of the plot centered around CIA training, loyalty tests,
Speaker 3: and espionage glamour. The CIA's Office of Public Affairs approved
Speaker 3: access to Langley and worked with screenwriters to ensure a
Speaker 3: compelling yet favorable image of agency life. The psychological message
Speaker 3: here is seduction. The CIA is mysterious, elite and for
Speaker 3: the chosen few, appeals to young, smart viewers who want
Speaker 3: to believe that they have a secret destiny. Even the
Speaker 3: betrayal subplot doesn't fully undermine the agency's aura, It only
Speaker 3: reinforces the notion that that trust is earned, not assumed.
Speaker 2: In essence.
Speaker 3: It's Harry Potter for spies, but with the CIA as hogwarts.
Speaker 5: Oh interesting, And it's one of those that tells you that, like,
Speaker 5: don't worry, the good guys always win, and don't you
Speaker 5: worry anything associated with our government is clearly the good guys.
Speaker 5: Completely go over the fact of the whole betrayal being
Speaker 5: an internal thing. Now there was like that, no, no,
Speaker 5: but the good guys won though, you know well, and
Speaker 5: this is the.
Speaker 3: Reason why so many people just blindly trust the government.
Speaker 3: If you think about it, it's really a lot of
Speaker 3: subconscious programming, as we're going over here that you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, the CIA wouldn't fuck its own people over.
Speaker 3: I've seen I've seen this show, or I've seen this movie.
Speaker 3: I know how they act. Meanwhile, it's literally those movies
Speaker 3: were fun and scripted to subconsciously send that message to
Speaker 3: you so that you don't question the authority, because now
Speaker 3: you have this belief via suggestion from a movie that
Speaker 3: you were hypnotically and induced into some kind of trans
Speaker 3: state in order to really go along, to get along,
Speaker 3: to trust the whole operation, right, crazy dude. Nextly, we
Speaker 3: have Meet the Parents. This is gonna be a funny one.
Speaker 3: Meet the Parents came out in two thousand. The branch
Speaker 3: involved was the CIA.
Speaker 4: Believe it or not.
Speaker 3: Meet the Parents had CIA consultation to help make Robert
Speaker 3: de Niro's XCIA character more believable. While this film wasn't
Speaker 3: a military recruitment ad, it subtly reinforced public intrigue and
Speaker 3: admiration for intelligence operatives, even in comedy. CIA advisors helped
Speaker 3: with backstory elements and dialogue to ensure that Jack Burns
Speaker 3: felt like a real retired agent. On the surface, it's
Speaker 3: a rom com, but dig deeper and you'll find messaging
Speaker 3: that frames intelligence agents as highly competent, morally upright, and
Speaker 3: even domestically protective. The underlying narrative is that even when
Speaker 3: spies retire, there's still the most dangerous men in the room,
Speaker 3: and we should respect that. The CIA becomes almost mythic.
Speaker 3: Even while you're laughing, I.
Speaker 4: Didn't get that from Jack Burns' character. I saw him
Speaker 4: as a fucking psychopath the entire movie. So I mean, yes,
Speaker 4: as far as having some sort of CI liaison on
Speaker 4: set to like make the character more believable, I get
Speaker 4: that with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: It didn't reinforce anything about like, yeah, man, you know
Speaker 5: the CIA, they're hardcore. I was like, he's a fucking psychopath.
Speaker 5: He's coming after this guy who is a actually good guy.
Speaker 5: He's going through his baggage without him knowing, he's tracking
Speaker 5: his movements.
Speaker 4: He's like, Yo, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: He has the basement that nobody knows about. And you
Speaker 3: get into the seat and everything right, and.
Speaker 5: They try to I think they try to make him
Speaker 5: seem like a Billy wall type character, which if anybody
Speaker 5: doesn't know who Billy Waugh is, highly recommend you look
Speaker 5: into this dude. This guy was operating from Vietnam to
Speaker 5: like into his late seventies hunting Osama Bin Laden and
Speaker 5: he found him multiple times with the US kept telling
Speaker 5: him to pull back.
Speaker 4: But there's a whole thing on that one true, but yeah,
Speaker 4: wild shit.
Speaker 3: It reminded me, like I this is how I kind
Speaker 3: of knew from an early age that like there's no
Speaker 3: such thing as an ex CIA agent. You know, like
Speaker 3: whenever you see that kind of shit, it's like are
Speaker 3: you are you?
Speaker 2: Do you want me to.
Speaker 3: Believe that there's no such thing as an x CIA agent,
Speaker 3: that you're always in it, even whenever you are spilling
Speaker 3: the beans and you know what I mean, Like, what's
Speaker 3: your fucking boy's name, the black dude with the dreads,
Speaker 3: uh Bustamante and Andy Boustamante. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't
Speaker 3: believe a fucking word that comes out of his mouth.
Speaker 4: Like I've said, I take him as a source for
Speaker 4: certain things, but I don't believe he's saying one truths
Speaker 4: pretty much ever, Right, you got to listen to the
Speaker 4: grain of truth that's there. Same with Sean Ryan. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he was a seal, but he was a CIA asset
Speaker 4: at one time. Now do I think he's still an asset.
Speaker 5: I personally don't think so, but I could understand why
Speaker 5: somebody would believe that and why you would need to
Speaker 5: take what he is saying with a grain of salt.
Speaker 2: Sure, agree to disagree on that one, but anyway.
Speaker 3: Nextly, we have the movie called Thirteen Hours, The Secret
Speaker 3: Soldiers of Bengazi that came out in twenty sixteen. The
Speaker 3: branch involved was the CIA. It's an unofficial cooperation though,
Speaker 3: which come on, it's obvious. While not officially endorsed by
Speaker 3: the CIA, Thirteen Hours was created with input from former
Speaker 3: operatives and serves as a kind of unofficial redemption piece
Speaker 3: for the agency. Michael Bay directed See what I'm Saying.
Speaker 3: It's always the same directors, It's the same actors. Michael
Speaker 3: Bay directed it with gritty reverence, portraying a group of
Speaker 3: CIA contractors fighting off an attack with minimal backup. Despite
Speaker 3: controversies over accuracy, the film shapes its heroes as professional, disciplined,
Speaker 3: and tragically unsupported. The subliminal programming here is that the
Speaker 3: CIA is filled with heroes who are only hindered by
Speaker 3: bureaucracy and or weak politicians. It paints the agency as
Speaker 3: competent and self sacrificing, even if officially abandoned. The audience
Speaker 3: walks away feeling admiration for the covert world, blaming external
Speaker 3: forces rather than the intelligence structure itself. It's a cinematic
Speaker 3: whitewash under the guise of a true story.
Speaker 5: No, you leave being pissed off at the CIA and
Speaker 5: feeling a sense of pride in the contractors, not CIA agents.
Speaker 5: The contractors who said, fuck that, I'm an American first
Speaker 5: and I'm a contractor second, who went in with no
Speaker 5: support after their CIA boss told them, if you go
Speaker 5: out there, you're pretty much losing your job, and they decided, no,
Speaker 5: fuck that, Americans are getting shot at.
Speaker 4: I'm leaving.
Speaker 5: You don't feel with a sense of pride towards the agency.
Speaker 5: Oh fuck, we talking about different structure for different folks.
Speaker 5: Not everybody thinks like you, Jacob. I think that you
Speaker 5: forget that sometimes?
Speaker 4: Did you?
Speaker 7: Do?
Speaker 4: You watch the movie?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 2: I didn't know?
Speaker 4: Okay, go watch the movie. It's worth a watch, solid movie,
Speaker 4: and then look at the true story of what actually
Speaker 4: took place. You're gonna be pissed off that the agency
Speaker 4: was like, no, if we get involved, they'll come here next.
Speaker 4: It's like, I'm sorry, we have marines that are under
Speaker 4: fire and an ambassador that they're trying to kill. I
Speaker 4: know that I'm hired to protect you, CIA boy, but
Speaker 4: I'm also an American and I'm a former seal, So like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go save some American lives real quick, because
Speaker 4: you're not lifting a finger to do so, because you're
Speaker 4: afraid of your bureaucracy people coming after you. Like you're not. No,
Speaker 4: you don't feel pride in the CIA after that movie,
Speaker 4: that's insane.
Speaker 3: The next show or the next one is a show
Speaker 3: called as a CBS series called The Agency, which aired
Speaker 3: from two thousand and one to two thousand and three.
Speaker 3: The branch involved was a CIA. The CBS series or
Speaker 3: this CBS series was developed with direct involvement from this's
Speaker 3: Office of Public Affairs. The Agency used the show to
Speaker 3: normalize their operations in the public eye post Cold War
Speaker 3: and pre nine to eleven. Episodes were crafted to showcase
Speaker 3: CIA heroes combating international threats while sidestepping any mention of
Speaker 3: CIA overreach or failures. Interesting, this came out like right
Speaker 3: after nine to eleven.
Speaker 4: You know, the subconscious Patriarch was passed, I might add.
Speaker 3: Yeah, The subconscious function of the show was to implant
Speaker 3: the idea that the CIA is both ethical and essential.
Speaker 3: Every moral gray area is painted with nuance, but always
Speaker 3: leads back to the premise that's in quotes. They're the
Speaker 3: good guys doing the hard jobs that no one else will.
Speaker 3: It made surveillance sexy and espionage noble, all while conditioning
Speaker 3: the audience to cheer for intelligence over privacy.
Speaker 4: Yes, please spile on us harder, Governant, Daddy, please, yeah,
Speaker 4: please monitor my cell phone in my internet access even harder.
Speaker 4: You're such a good guy for doing it.
Speaker 7: What.
Speaker 3: Yes, the government is spying and listening in on every
Speaker 3: single conversation on my phone and through my TV and
Speaker 3: through all my electronics.
Speaker 2: But they need to do that because they care.
Speaker 4: It's like the husband that like gas what lights his
Speaker 4: wife's like, shut up, baby, you love being lied to.
Speaker 4: That's what this is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3: Nextly, we have the show called Alias, which aired from
Speaker 3: two thousand and one to two thousand and six. See
Speaker 3: how they're all around two thousand and one. Here the
Speaker 3: branch involved was the CIA. Alias, created by JJ Abrams,
Speaker 3: starred Jennifer Garner as a CIA double agent. The CIA
Speaker 3: consulted on the series, helping shape Garner's portrayal and lending
Speaker 3: the agency a kind of glamorous credibility. Garner even prepared
Speaker 3: in a CIA recruitment ad that aired during the show,
Speaker 3: blurring the line between fiction and actual recruitment. The deeper
Speaker 3: psychological angle here was to feminize and humanize the intelligence world.
Speaker 3: Garner's character is emotional, loyal yet ruthless, giving viewers permission
Speaker 3: to empathize with those doing morally questionable work for the
Speaker 3: greater good end quotes, Alias also injected esoteric and occult
Speaker 3: symbolism oh shit, appealing to conspiracy aware viewers while steering
Speaker 3: them to trust the overarching structure of intelligence operations.
Speaker 5: So maybe I'm just speaking on behalf of myself here,
Speaker 5: but I feel like miscongeniality did a way better job
Speaker 5: of feminizing three letter agencies because she was an FBI agent,
Speaker 5: more than Alias did, like glamorizing it and all of that.
Speaker 5: Like Sandra Bullock did a really good job of making
Speaker 5: the FBI look like good guys on that one.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, no matter how much foreskin she puts
Speaker 3: on her face, oh.
Speaker 2: My god, that's real shit, that's real shit though, you.
Speaker 4: Laugh, foreskin on her face?
Speaker 2: Doug, Oh, yeah, like that's what she says.
Speaker 3: Like, she goes on interviews and people are like, Sandra Bull,
Speaker 3: how are you You're like fucking almost sixty years old, Like,
Speaker 3: how do you still look like you're in your thirties?
Speaker 3: And she goes, well, there's this thing and it's this
Speaker 3: lotion and it has this stuff in there. It's basically
Speaker 3: foreskin from babies. And everybody was like, what the fuck
Speaker 3: are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Yeah, heard that. That's fucking wild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, it's fucking the higher ups get real weird.
Speaker 3: So nextly we have the Jack Ryan Amazon series from
Speaker 3: twenty eighteen to present, still going the branch involved as
Speaker 3: the CIA. So Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan got a sleek
Speaker 3: reboot thanks to Amazon and at green light from the
Speaker 3: CIA's media liaisons. The show promotes the idea that young, brilliant,
Speaker 3: morally unshakable analysts are protecting the world from chaos. Real
Speaker 3: CIA lingo tech and tactical operations were reviewed and approved
Speaker 3: for accuracy, adding an air of legitimacy. Beneath the surface,
Speaker 3: Jack Ryan functions as neo liberal spy propaganda. It teaches
Speaker 3: viewers that America's meddling and foreign lands is necessary and
Speaker 3: surgical rather than imperal and exploitive. Complex geopolitical struggles are
Speaker 3: reduced to good versus evil, and the show subtly reinforces
Speaker 3: the idea that technocrats with guns and degrees are the
Speaker 3: answers to global instability.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's totally the yep.
Speaker 2: CIA doing CIA shit.
Speaker 4: It's one of the most opinions. So I might say.
Speaker 3: Nextly, we have the show called twenty four aired from
Speaker 3: two thousand and one to ten.
Speaker 2: There's another two thousand and one show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty four. That was a fucking good show when
Speaker 4: it was on.
Speaker 3: I remember that the branch involved or the branch is
Speaker 3: involved with the DoD and Homeland Security. Twenty four became
Speaker 3: famous for its real time thriller format and Jack Bauer's
Speaker 3: often brutal methods. Post nine to eleven, this show was
Speaker 3: held up by Homeland security officials as a cultural tool
Speaker 3: for justifying enhanced interrogation i e.
Speaker 2: Torture.
Speaker 3: While not directly funded, it was praised and promoted internally
Speaker 3: within defense circles for shaping public attitudes toward terrorism and
Speaker 3: surveillance or surveillance Rather, the subconscious effect of twenty four
Speaker 3: was in enormous. It normalized torture, illegal surveillance, UH, and
Speaker 3: preemptive action, desensitizing Americans to to the erosion of civil liberties.
Speaker 3: Bower wasn't just a hero, He was a patriot who
Speaker 3: had to break the rules to protect the innocent. The
Speaker 3: real message is, if you want safety, you must surrender oversight.
Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, fucking KEEFERD. Sutherland think he killed the role.
Speaker 4: Honestly.
Speaker 3: Oh, he definitely pumped it into the minds that you know, hey,
Speaker 3: we need surveillance.
Speaker 2: I cannot say that fucking word right now. There we go.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, it's it's been pumping that big brother.
Speaker 3: You know, they're just trying to pump into the subconscious
Speaker 3: minds of people that big brother has your back. It's
Speaker 3: not spying on you, it's spying for your well being.
Speaker 5: Which also, like, is torture still a thing that people
Speaker 5: are like about? Like, I'm cool with torturing bad guys.
Speaker 5: I'm good with this, I guess.
Speaker 3: So, Uh, nextly we have uh, this is gonna be
Speaker 3: a three first, So ncis, JAG and Hawaii five. Oh,
Speaker 3: the branches involved with the US Navy and the DoD
Speaker 3: These long running shows functioned as daytime soap operas for
Speaker 3: military pr All were developed with the support from the
Speaker 3: US Navy or Marine Corps, who use them to improve
Speaker 3: their image and increase incruitment or recruitment. Rather, the scripts
Speaker 3: are vetted to remove negative portrayals of military hierarchy or misconduct,
Speaker 3: unless they're quote unquote bad apple stories. The deeper programming
Speaker 3: is insidious. Loyalty to the military is framed as synonymous
Speaker 3: with patriotism, and justice is always served best with when
Speaker 3: the chain of command is obeyed. Corruption when it appears,
Speaker 3: is swiftly handled. Internally, these shows condition viewers to believe
Speaker 3: in the integrity of the institution over the reality of
Speaker 3: the whistleblowers cover ups or war crimes.
Speaker 4: That's fair.
Speaker 5: I mean a lot of the stuff that Jag had
Speaker 5: on the show is kind of like incis right, everybody
Speaker 5: loves NCIS and it's not a bad show going to
Speaker 5: shit on it by any means, But like, yeah, there
Speaker 5: is a criminal investigation unit within the military that handles
Speaker 5: things in house, but that doesn't mean that they're gonna
Speaker 5: hook you up. Because it's in house, you'll face federal
Speaker 5: jail time. For fucking around when you're in the military,
Speaker 5: so like it's it's absolutely a thing that takes place.
Speaker 3: The next show we have is or in the next
Speaker 3: I think. Yeah, as a show called Homeland from twenty
Speaker 3: eleven until twenty twenty, the branch involved was the CIA.
Speaker 3: Informal approval and post release praise from the CIA, Homeland
Speaker 3: was one of the most gripping modern spy dramas, with
Speaker 3: lead actors that include bipolar agents, double crossers, and global plots.
Speaker 3: Though not officially supported by the CIA, several former agents
Speaker 3: served as consultants, and the agency praised it publicly for
Speaker 3: helping explain the quote unquote real stakes of the War
Speaker 3: on Terror to the American public. It's subconscious programming is
Speaker 3: fear the foreigner, trust the system, even when it to you.
Speaker 3: Carrie Matheson's character, despite her instability, is shown as indispensable,
Speaker 3: a broken savior archetype who can't afford to play by
Speaker 3: the rules. It reinforces the idea that America's security comes
Speaker 3: at the cost of transparency and that some secrets are
Speaker 3: worth keeping.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a That was a wild show. I
Speaker 5: only caught the first couple of seasons of it. I
Speaker 5: wish I would have sat and watched the rest of it,
Speaker 5: But yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: That was a good one.
Speaker 3: Here are some other military or DOO defunded or supported movies.
Speaker 3: So beyond obvious war films, the Department of Defense has
Speaker 3: inserted itself into many non war films with subtle programming.
Speaker 3: So mind engineering and control movies directly or indirectly supported
Speaker 3: were number one. Oh you like this movie, The Men
Speaker 3: Who Stare At Goats into the Yeah. While parody, it's
Speaker 3: based on the real First Earth Battalion psyops research declassified
Speaker 3: military experiments with telepathy, ESP and remote viewing, the script
Speaker 3: was consulted to avoid real military embarrassment.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's We've talked about that movie before with the
Speaker 5: asher projection program that the CIA had and how that
Speaker 5: was again based on a true story with a lot
Speaker 5: of creative liberties thrown in. But yeah, that movie is
Speaker 5: fucking hilarious, dude, Jeff Bridges, George Clooney, the whole nine.
Speaker 3: Nextly, we have one of my favorite movies of all
Speaker 3: time called Inception, which came out in twenty ten.
Speaker 4: It says Noah's do d or CIA influence Dude.
Speaker 3: Well, it says no official do d credit, but Christopher
Speaker 3: Nolan reportedly received private guidance from intelligence linked advisors. The
Speaker 3: themes planting ideas, layering dreams, time dilation mirror known psychological
Speaker 3: ops tactics like MK ultra operation, artichoke, and dream manipulation research.
Speaker 2: WHOA damn, I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I mean it makes sense though, doesn't it.
Speaker 4: It does?
Speaker 5: Like hearing that out loud and knowing the movie like
Speaker 5: we do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could see it. I could absolutely see it.
Speaker 5: But wow, I never even thought about the implications of
Speaker 5: if an intelligence agency had any kind of sway on
Speaker 5: how this movie was.
Speaker 4: Written, played out, edited, whatever the case. But that's pretty
Speaker 4: fucking wild, almost.
Speaker 2: A little sinister you think about it. Actually, yeah, like
Speaker 2: it's it doesn't make me feel good to know that, No,
Speaker 2: not at all.
Speaker 3: Nextly, another great movie, Limitless with It, came out in
Speaker 3: twenty eleven. It echoes DoD and dharpa interest in cognitive
Speaker 3: enhancement drugs. Several real programs exist that match the NZT concept.
Speaker 3: For example, moda Finil moda fenil, which is a modfinitely.
Speaker 4: Seen as the real life limitless drug.
Speaker 3: So medafinil in military use. Holy shit, I didn't know
Speaker 3: that that existed.
Speaker 4: It's not, and I don't know. I've never tested it myself.
Speaker 4: I would love to get my hands on some, but
Speaker 4: it is seen as the thing that the Limitless Pill
Speaker 4: was based off of. It doesn't from what I've been
Speaker 4: given to understand, It doesn't make you have one hundred
Speaker 4: percent of the power within your brain. But as far
Speaker 4: as being extremely acutely aware of your surroundings, being able
Speaker 4: to think through seriously complex problems. Now, I don't mean
Speaker 4: like you'll be able to goodwill hunting a Calculus equation
Speaker 4: on the board, Okay, nothing to that level, but the
Speaker 4: critical thinking to get yourself out of Harry situations and
Speaker 4: things like that. Like apparently medafinil is the.
Speaker 3: Sh well your brain only can process with what it knows.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I mean, you can probably study calculus.
Speaker 3: You can probably get it really quick, but your brain's
Speaker 3: not just going to be like, well, I've never studied calculus,
Speaker 3: but now I know it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's not like magic or anything like that.
Speaker 3: But still, I mean, and that's what he did, like
Speaker 3: he studied the stock market and all that shit whenever
Speaker 3: he got on that right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. And I've also heard that the come down
Speaker 5: off of it. They got that pretty accurate with the
Speaker 5: Limitless movie. Whenever you run out of it, your brain
Speaker 5: like is barely functioning at that point.
Speaker 4: So it's not like it's you don't get addicted to it.
Speaker 3: It's all speed in general though, like cocaine, adderall vivans,
Speaker 3: all like, it's all the same come down, it sucks, yeah.
Speaker 5: So it's not like you get these people that are
Speaker 5: like medafinil junkies who are like in rehab because of it,
Speaker 5: but their brain power never reaches what it could be
Speaker 5: unless they use it at that point. So it's like
Speaker 5: one of those things where if you take one every
Speaker 5: so often as needed, all right, cool, but if you
Speaker 5: start doing it daily for like a month, you're pretty
Speaker 5: much fucked.
Speaker 3: Nextly, we have Enemy of the State, which came out
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety eight. This was an NSA centric thriller
Speaker 3: allegedly from a prompted the agency to shift public relations strategy.
Speaker 3: Many former Intel agents praised it as accurate, suggesting unofficial alignments.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen a lot of these kind of movies.
Speaker 4: Enemy of the States with will Will Smith and Gene Hackman.
Speaker 2: Oh I may have seen The Banger. Yeah, it's a banger.
Speaker 3: Next one and possibly the greatest movie of all time.
Speaker 3: The Matrix, The Sandlot The Matrix, Oh okay, yeah that too.
Speaker 3: Matrix came out in nineteen ninety nine. It says, while
Speaker 3: not do defunded, the film reflects deep, gnostic and MK
Speaker 3: ultra themes. Several DARPA advisors now reference it in real
Speaker 3: world projects about simulation theory and neural interfaces.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could believe that.
Speaker 5: I could believe that The Matrix had some some uh
Speaker 5: not coercion, what's the word. I'm looking for some influence
Speaker 5: from some government agencies for sure.
Speaker 3: Oh, how about these mafia and crime films that are
Speaker 3: less obviously under the direction of d d and whatnot
Speaker 3: says most mob films were not directly funded by the
Speaker 3: DoD but were allowed to proceed without interference because they
Speaker 3: reinforce a message the enemy is within and the government
Speaker 3: is trying to keep order.
Speaker 4: So I could see American gangster making this list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does.
Speaker 3: But the first one that it mentions is Scarface from
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty three, one of the best movies ever made. Agreed,
Speaker 3: It says, not DoD funded, but mirrored the Reagan era
Speaker 3: War on Drugs narrative. The rise and fall of Tony
Speaker 3: Montana subtly justifies the need for harsh enforcement and DEA.
Speaker 4: Expansion, Right, Yeah, more expansion of the DEA. That's what
Speaker 4: we need.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, they're the ones that are pedaling it in.
Speaker 4: Two one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: That was done to fund the CIA and fund their
Speaker 5: shit because they stopped getting funding from the from potus,
Speaker 5: so they had to make their ends meet somehow. So
Speaker 5: you know, hey, why don't we just start selling drugs?
Speaker 5: Anybody ever seen uh you know, what was that other
Speaker 5: one with Barry Seal?
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what you're talking about. I can't think
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 4: Not American Gangster.
Speaker 5: That was the one with Denzel Washington and Harlem, but uh.
Speaker 4: Damn it.
Speaker 2: Was it a Leonardo DiCaprio movie.
Speaker 4: I'm thinking of. No, No Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right.
Speaker 3: Uh so the next one that we're gonna get to
Speaker 3: is actually a trilogy, and that's The Godfather.
Speaker 4: No, No American Maid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Godfather trilogy trilogy, it says, no known
Speaker 3: government funding, but allowed to exist because it bolts bolstered
Speaker 3: trust in US federal systems like the FBI as moral
Speaker 3: arbiters against end quotes Unamerican corruption.
Speaker 4: If you say so.
Speaker 5: The only time they did that was when they tried
Speaker 5: to bring in your boy Michael Corleone for a rico
Speaker 5: case that he beat so and then they showed how
Speaker 5: a corrupt politician killed a hooker and they had to
Speaker 5: cover that up to save his ass, and then in
Speaker 5: turn he scratched their back.
Speaker 4: So yeah, the federal governments the moral arbiters of stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Nextly we have American Gangster from two thousand and seven,
Speaker 3: fucking awesome.
Speaker 5: Movie, amazing and true story of how they were shipping
Speaker 5: the heroin back in the body bags and all of
Speaker 5: that from soldiers.
Speaker 3: You know, for real based on true events. This film
Speaker 3: was created with input from real DEA agents. It subtly
Speaker 3: showcases the criminal justice system eventually doing the right thing,
Speaker 3: reinforcing belief in checks and balances.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the best.
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna get to certain actors that are used
Speaker 3: for a lot of this propagation. So these are just alleged.
Speaker 3: There's I mean, you can kind of draw the lines,
Speaker 3: but I mean, obviously they're not gonna come out and
Speaker 3: say it, but it's kind of it's kind of obvious,
Speaker 3: so actors that were allegedly hand picked by the military
Speaker 3: entertainment complex. These individuals aren't just talented, They are chosen, promoted,
Speaker 3: and placed into rules that align with government narratives, whether
Speaker 3: knowingly or as useful instruments. Their careers have strangely benefited
Speaker 3: from their alignment with military intelligence and globalist messaging. Number
Speaker 3: one obviously Tom Cruise, So the government affiliation with the
Speaker 3: US Navy via Top Gun and the Department of Defense.
Speaker 3: Tom Cruise is the face of military glamour. He didn't
Speaker 3: just star in Top Gun, he became a walking recruitment campaign.
Speaker 3: Cruz reportedly worked closely with Navy officials and for both
Speaker 3: top for both of the Top Gun films, and his
Speaker 3: real life image is tightly controlled. His Mission I'm Sorry
Speaker 3: His Mission Impossible franchise also frequently cast the US intelligence
Speaker 3: apparatus as heroic.
Speaker 4: Cruse is well.
Speaker 3: The theory is is that Cruz is a controlled asset
Speaker 3: of the military Hollywood machine. He may not be a
Speaker 3: quote unquote spy, but he's a megaphone used to project
Speaker 3: high adrenaline, patriotism and masculine loyalty. His link to scientology
Speaker 3: may also be a key piece given its rumored intelligence
Speaker 3: community ties.
Speaker 4: I would say that it's not even a disputable fact
Speaker 4: at this point that his scientology ties absolutely has led
Speaker 4: him to where he is now.
Speaker 3: Nextly, we have Tom Hanks. The government affiliation would be
Speaker 3: the CIA and DoD connections through Forrest Gump, Charlie Wilson's War,
Speaker 3: Captain Phillips, and The Post so all military funded movies.
Speaker 3: So Tom Hanks is Hollywood's every man, often cast as
Speaker 3: the symbol of moral American virtue. His roles promote obedience, sacrifice,
Speaker 3: and trust in the system. Forrest Gump normalizes war, Charlie
Speaker 3: WARF's Charlie Wilson's War glamorizes covert operations, and The Post
Speaker 3: promotes the illusion of journalistic and independence while softening real
Speaker 3: government secrets. The theory would be that Hank serves serves
Speaker 3: as a cultural bomb soothing soothing the public with charm
Speaker 3: while pushing complex narratives that ultimately defend institutional power. His
Speaker 3: public persona as all Puke at this one, his public
Speaker 3: persona as America's Dad makes him the ideal subconscious influencer.
Speaker 2: What movie has he ever played as the dad?
Speaker 3: It's just that kind of guy that it's not necessarily
Speaker 3: a dad in a movie, but just like you know,
Speaker 3: the the the family man that you look up to
Speaker 3: because he's morally you know good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the whole the whole thing with him going to
Speaker 5: Greece to escape extradition and all of these things until
Speaker 5: the Statute of limitations went away on that one case
Speaker 5: and his affiliation with Epstein and all these things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that that has not voted well.
Speaker 4: For his quote unquote America his dad image. Holy fuck gross.
Speaker 2: I know, puke at that one.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 3: Nextly we have Ashton Kutcher. So the government affiliation would
Speaker 3: be the intelligence community, the tech industry, and human trafficking
Speaker 3: task forces.
Speaker 2: So Coucher or Kutcher. I always say Coucher is just
Speaker 2: more funny, but think that's how you pronounce it, honestly.
Speaker 3: Ashton Kucher co found in Thorn, an anti human trafficking
Speaker 3: tech company which works with Homeland Security, the FBI, and
Speaker 3: Silicon Valley giants. He testified before Congress and has high
Speaker 3: level security clearance. He's also closely tied to CIA boosted
Speaker 3: tech networks through venture capital. The theory is is that
Speaker 3: while his celebrity background helps mask it. Kucher now functions
Speaker 3: as a quote unquote bridge personality, a Hollywood insider who
Speaker 3: has been absorbed into the intelligence world under the guise
Speaker 3: of humanitarianism. Some people suspect that he's being groomed for
Speaker 3: future political influence or tech gatekeeping.
Speaker 5: You know, he was in school to become I forget
Speaker 5: if it was a biochemical engineer or a nuclear engineer.
Speaker 4: He's actually a really smart guy.
Speaker 5: He quit that to do modeling, which led to him
Speaker 5: landing the role on that seventies show as the dumbass, right,
Speaker 5: but you know, all things aside, Yeah, he is extremely intelligent,
Speaker 5: and I know there's a lot of controversy around him currently.
Speaker 5: I don't know how much of that is accurate and
Speaker 5: how much of it is the Internet throwing shade. But yeah,
Speaker 5: as far as that goes him playing that role in
Speaker 5: The Guardian.
Speaker 4: I could see is like, yeah, his ties to these things,
Speaker 4: but he's not really tied in with other things. Well,
Speaker 4: with the CIA for the Thorn and all that stuff.
Speaker 4: Fair enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Next we have and this is just a couple
Speaker 3: of names, it's not gonna be all of them. Next
Speaker 3: we have Robert Downey Jr. The government affiliation with the
Speaker 3: DoD via Iron Man and Darba parallels. So as iron
Speaker 3: Man RDJ became a walking avatar for the Military Industrial Complex,
Speaker 3: Stark is essentially a DARPA dream, a billionaire tech entrepreneur
Speaker 3: who privatizes war.
Speaker 2: To make it ethical end quotes.
Speaker 3: The military approved the original Iron Man because of this
Speaker 3: very narrative, the redemption of the war profiteer within the system.
Speaker 3: The theory is is that Downey was reborn as a
Speaker 3: public figure only after being broken down and rebuilt by
Speaker 3: Hollywood's elite. His drug struggles made him malleable, and he
Speaker 3: was remade into the perfect symbolic military hero, arrogant but brilliant,
Speaker 3: flawed but righteous.
Speaker 5: That's actually pretty accurate. He he's viewed that way anyway.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm not saying he is or isn't, but yeah,
Speaker 5: I believe he didn't. He wasn't even allowed to receive
Speaker 5: one dollar for his acting on Iron Man until the
Speaker 5: movie was wrapped because they didn't want him to have
Speaker 5: a relapse in the middle of shooting or anything.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: The last actor that we're going to bring up is
Speaker 3: uh oh Ellen DeGeneres Ew. The Government of Affiliation would
Speaker 3: be soft power propaganda, and Pentagon celebrity liaison programs. Ellen
Speaker 3: isn't a war hero on screen, but she plays a
Speaker 3: crucial role in cultural normalization. She's hosted military personnel on
Speaker 3: her show, aired pro military segments, and has been used
Speaker 3: to promote social acceptance of the state through humor and
Speaker 3: emotional appeal. She was also given the Presidential Medal of Freedom.
Speaker 3: The theory is is that Ellen by Obama.
Speaker 4: By the way, how.
Speaker 5: About to say, at the same day he was giving
Speaker 5: him away like candy to anybody who is a celebrity.
Speaker 5: But yeah, sure that makes her some sort of a cisset.
Speaker 4: I guess all right, just keep swimming as they say. Wow.
Speaker 3: The theory is is that Ellen is part of the
Speaker 3: emotional siop branch of the entertainment complex, pushing unity, trust
Speaker 3: and institutions, and compliance through comfort. Her public fall from
Speaker 3: grace may suggest that her usefulness had run its course,
Speaker 3: or that she broke from her script, which makes sense
Speaker 3: because I.
Speaker 2: Think she's living in uh where's she living? Not Canada
Speaker 2: but Sweden. I think she's.
Speaker 4: Out of America.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh good, good good, Fuck that bitch.
Speaker 5: But also, let's not negate her ties to Diddy and
Speaker 5: her ties to Epstein that have become very widely known
Speaker 5: and talked about in the last few years. So I've
Speaker 5: never saw her and thought to myself, wow, Cia is
Speaker 5: probably using her to make us feel some sort of
Speaker 5: emotion because she had military personnel on her show.
Speaker 4: There's tons of talk shows that do the same thing.
Speaker 4: What eh, well, I mean it's subtle, but it's not
Speaker 4: to say thing.
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen. But yeah, actually I just pulled it up.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 3: Ellen DeGeneres currently lives in the Cotswolds region of England,
Speaker 3: having moved there with her wife Portia de Rossi after
Speaker 3: leaving the United States once president once Trump was elected.
Speaker 5: The good she actually stood by her word and left.
Speaker 5: You know what, stay there. We don't want you back
Speaker 5: for it.
Speaker 3: No, it's just temporary. She's coming back once Trump's out off,
Speaker 3: she says.
Speaker 4: Fucks.
Speaker 3: So it says that they purchased a farmhouse in the area,
Speaker 3: reportedly worth eh eighteen million dollars.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, my god, yep, all right now the Diddy
Speaker 4: case is going on. She is not trying to be
Speaker 4: anywhere in America right.
Speaker 3: Now, right, Yeah, she was one of the main ones
Speaker 3: there and let's not forget about her set looking like
Speaker 3: fucking Epstein Island?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 4: Do I know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Okay, So just to wrap it up here, how the
Speaker 3: system allegedly works is five key points. Here for something
Speaker 3: for you to look out for for just anybody that's
Speaker 3: trying to keep that third eye all the way open
Speaker 3: if you decide to blue pill and watch a Hollywood movie.
Speaker 3: So number one would be the military script approval, so
Speaker 3: the DD and CIA reviews scripts and recommends or vetos
Speaker 3: certain actors.
Speaker 2: How about that.
Speaker 3: Next, you have Hollywood liaisons, so every branch of the
Speaker 3: military has a liaison to Hollywood, who also makes casting suggestions.
Speaker 3: There is number three, which is behavioral control, so stars
Speaker 3: with past addictions, scandals, or compromised private lives are easier
Speaker 3: to reshape into assets.
Speaker 2: Interesting how that works, isn't it? Apps fucking lutely?
Speaker 3: Let's see we got Number four is the media warship,
Speaker 3: so these stars are elevated to godlike status only to
Speaker 3: become transmitters of acceptable ideology. And then, of course there's
Speaker 3: a reward system, so those who play along get oscars
Speaker 3: protection and massive pr machines behind them.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's dirty, it's dirty.
Speaker 4: I mean, you.
Speaker 5: See how the Oscars are awarded and how these SAG
Speaker 5: Awards are actually handed out and all of these it's
Speaker 5: it's a rig system, like and we've known that for years.
Speaker 5: Leo DiCaprio made arguably the best movie of the year
Speaker 5: for like third teen years and never gott an oscar
Speaker 5: until he finally was given it for The Revenant, which
Speaker 5: wasn't a bad movie by any means, but like wasn't. No, dude,
Speaker 5: he could have he should have been awarded that so
Speaker 5: many times over, but because he wasn't quote unquote playing
Speaker 5: the game, you know, I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he could. He should have got
Speaker 2: it for Inception, maybe.
Speaker 5: For Inception, for catch Me if you can. For I
Speaker 5: would even argue Titanic.
Speaker 4: Blood Diamond, blood, come on now, blood diamond, Yes, but yeah, sure, Revenant,
Speaker 4: which again not a bad movie, and him being a
Speaker 4: vegan and he actually ate real bear liver on camera
Speaker 4: to make it look realistic, and like I'm I'm giving
Speaker 4: the respect and the props for they're due, but like, yeah,
Speaker 4: you could obviously see of the people that was awarded
Speaker 4: that every year and not him. It's rigged because certain
Speaker 4: people are part of the click, and certain people haven't
Speaker 4: paid their dues enough yet.
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, Well, that that leaves us with question
Speaker 3: of are they aware? So some likely know exactly what
Speaker 3: they're a part of, like Ashton Kutcher. Others may be
Speaker 3: useful idiots, willing participants who enjoy fame and don't question
Speaker 3: the machinery. A few maybe handlers in disguise, controlling others
Speaker 3: while appearing as fellow celebrities. Whether aware or not, these
Speaker 3: actors are part of a sophisticated subconscious engineering operation, a
Speaker 3: soft weapon wielded not with bullets, but with box office
Speaker 3: hits and Instagram reels. So, just to wrap it up here,
Speaker 3: when you watch a film or a show produced with
Speaker 3: government backing, you're not just watching entertainment. You're watching cultural engineering.
Speaker 3: You're seeing warfare not on a battlefield, but in the
Speaker 3: battlefield of the mind. The Pentagon, the CIA, Homeland Security,
Speaker 3: they know the power of narrative. They don't just want
Speaker 3: your money, they want your belief.
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 4: It's all about right there, And I believe that as well.
Speaker 5: There's probably some that know exactly how they're being used
Speaker 5: and are.
Speaker 4: Completely fine with the tom Cruise. I believe he is
Speaker 4: fully aware that he is being used to sensationalize certain things,
Speaker 4: and he's fine with it. He doesn't care. It's whatever.
Speaker 4: What difference does it make to him if somebody joins
Speaker 4: the Navy because they saw top Gun, or somebody becomes
Speaker 4: an agent with the CIA because they saw Mission impossible.
Speaker 4: What fucking no skin is it off his nose? He's
Speaker 4: making millions.
Speaker 5: But then whenever you look at his ties with the
Speaker 5: Church of Scientology, and we did an episode about that
Speaker 5: operation that they did, right Operations snow White, where they
Speaker 5: infiltrated the CIA for the sole purpose of taking out
Speaker 5: valuable information on cases against certain members of the Scientology Church. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think he's one hundred percent in the know, but
Speaker 5: he doesn't care. He's playing his role both on screen
Speaker 5: and off screen. Hey, I don't care where the money's
Speaker 5: coming from. It's coming don't question it kind of deal.
Speaker 4: And then there are certain groups or people like that
Speaker 4: are the useful idiots. They're just playing their role.
Speaker 5: Robert Downey Junior, for instance, he was this recovering drug
Speaker 5: addict and Hollywood elites brought him to a room one
Speaker 5: day and said, all right, kid, here's the deal. We're
Speaker 5: gonna give you a second shot, this whole rich and
Speaker 5: famous thing, but you're gonna play it our way or
Speaker 5: you're gonna have a crazy accident happen. And that's just
Speaker 5: how we're gonna be. We're not gonna soak millions and
Speaker 5: billions of dollars into a franchise with your name on
Speaker 5: it for you to go fuck off and ruin it
Speaker 5: all again.
Speaker 3: And think about it like this too. Iron Man was
Speaker 3: never the head of Marvel never ever, ever ever, right,
Speaker 3: But you get military industrial complex behind it, It's like
Speaker 3: that's their fucking stars, that's their superstar. I mean, you're
Speaker 3: not gonna be able to push so much Military industrial
Speaker 3: complex or DoD or any of these kind of things
Speaker 3: so much with like a Spider Man, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean, like maybe a little bit. I mean I
Speaker 3: know that there's there's probably some military shit going on
Speaker 3: in there too, don't get me wrong. But as far
Speaker 3: as tech and surveillance, is it surveillance or surveillance surveillance?
Speaker 4: So you said it, right, why do I fuck that up?
Speaker 5: To your point, Spider Man with the Green Goblin, he
Speaker 5: was a military guy. He was creating a thing to
Speaker 5: make him a super soldier. He had a glider, so like, yeah,
Speaker 5: you saw hints at it, exactly right. Or the other
Speaker 5: one with the Doctor was Octavia or whatever the octopus dude,
Speaker 5: doc oc, Yeah there's or what's the newer one right
Speaker 5: with your boy.
Speaker 4: Ship?
Speaker 2: Oh you're thinking.
Speaker 5: Of not the spider Man, the bad guy who played
Speaker 5: on Jack Frost Batman, Michael Michael Keaton. I say Keith
Speaker 5: for Sutherland. I knew that what was in the guy
Speaker 5: he talked Sutherland earlier. But yeah, Michael Keaton, he's using
Speaker 5: advanced military tech and he is salvaging it and selling
Speaker 5: it on the black market, all of these things. Right,
Speaker 5: you see subtle hints at it, But it doesn't send
Speaker 5: the same message as Tony Stark iron Man Stark Industries.
Speaker 5: That's a different conversation, kind of in the same flavor variety,
Speaker 5: but completely different intentions.
Speaker 3: Well and just as far as UH think about it,
Speaker 3: even from a psychological standpoint, dude, I bet you they
Speaker 3: they're they're diddling with the Doctor Strange script a little
Speaker 3: bit too.
Speaker 4: It's possible. I think I've seen it.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, fuck, I loved the Doctor Strange movies, but
Speaker 3: I don't doubt that there's some kind of government you know,
Speaker 3: interference going on in those. But anyway, all right, so
Speaker 3: the third eye all the way opened here, Uh, just
Speaker 3: to wrap this bad boy up. Not all propaganda where's
Speaker 3: a uniform? Even your favorite sci fi thriller may be
Speaker 3: laced with behavioral engineering. The best propaganda is entertaining, and
Speaker 3: it's hidden in plain sight. From scarfaces, rise and fall
Speaker 3: to inceptions, dream layers to the matrix simulation, you're being
Speaker 3: shown truth through fiction, so uh so, uh so you
Speaker 3: won't ask questions in real life. So the next time
Speaker 3: you feel inspired by a brave soldier or a daring spy,
Speaker 3: ask yourself whose story is being told and who benefits
Speaker 3: uh from your belief in it? Because if your third
Speaker 3: eye is all the way open, the screen isn't just
Speaker 3: a window.
Speaker 2: It's a weapon.
Speaker 4: I agree. Fuck god, this is a cool episode, dude.
Speaker 4: We talked about all kinds of crazy shit on this one.
Speaker 3: Fuck yeah, this was one of the more deeper episodes
Speaker 3: that we've done, and uh yeah, I love looking into
Speaker 3: the psychological fucking engineering of all of it, dude, because
Speaker 3: it's all mass hypnosis, which is the reason why I
Speaker 3: love you know, learning about all the you know, the
Speaker 3: hypnosis and the past life regression, because I mean, the
Speaker 3: best way to convince somebody something that they aren't necessarily
Speaker 3: convinced of would be through subliminal programming, right, And that's
Speaker 3: that was one of the key things of why I
Speaker 3: was so inspired by to even learn about that kind
Speaker 3: of shit, because I mean, once you understand how the
Speaker 3: human mind works, you're it's almost like, instead of battling
Speaker 3: through might, it's just you know, uh, learning neurolinguistic programming
Speaker 3: and the key of suggestion and and you know, stuff
Speaker 3: like that. Not that I do that within past live
Speaker 3: aggressions obviously from everybody, but I it's it's the same
Speaker 3: reason why on meta mysteries, I love looking into the
Speaker 3: occult and I love looking into dark magic and witchcraft.
Speaker 3: Not because I'm gonna do it. I just love learning
Speaker 3: how it works. That's it, you know. But yeah, dude,
Speaker 3: fun fun episode. I was happy that we were that
Speaker 3: I was able to bring this. You knew a lot
Speaker 3: about how the operations go, and you know, certain military
Speaker 3: movies and whatnot, So yeah, I mean, when you.
Speaker 4: Scratched the surface, there's tons of movies that go way
Speaker 4: further back, like there was a Navy Seal movie with
Speaker 4: Charlie Sheen in it from the early nineties that was
Speaker 4: a complete propaganda piece there. Look, there's a long list,
Speaker 4: long list of movies that have been done not just
Speaker 4: for military propaganda, or for agency propaganda.
Speaker 5: Or for just overall American patriotism propaganda. But yeah, the
Speaker 5: list goes on and on. These are just some of
Speaker 5: the ones that you good cult member listening might be
Speaker 5: able to recognize from the past twenty thirty years or so.
Speaker 4: So I thought this is an excellent take.
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