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<v Speaker 1>Oh thats are.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, and welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Cult of Conspiracy, and my name is Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Jacob. Now there was a good cult member whenever

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<v Speaker 3>we were over at bro Grove a few days ago,

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<v Speaker 3>over the over this past weekend, that was like, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>I need to know what's the next episode going to be.

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<v Speaker 3>I want a little insider information. And I said that

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<v Speaker 3>it was actually going to be this episode. But then,

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<v Speaker 3>of course the whole Iran and Israel and America debacle

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<v Speaker 3>just had to go down over the weekend. And these

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<v Speaker 3>things always happened whenever we're on trips. You ever noticed that, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we when we went to South Carolina, it was the

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<v Speaker 3>Chinese spy balloon, And now we got to Florida and

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, oh, yeah, you know, bombs are being dropped

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<v Speaker 3>and Iran It's like what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, a lot of people were of the belief that

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<v Speaker 5>we were about to into World War three. I'd said, no,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no way we're actually about to do that. I

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<v Speaker 5>didn't think America was going to get involved at all.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand why they dropped ordinance on three specific locations

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<v Speaker 5>and all that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, cool, cool, now it's being called the twelve

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<v Speaker 4>Day War, and I'm like, big dog, that's a really

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<v Speaker 4>stupid name for this, because they're trying to make it

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<v Speaker 4>sound like the Six Day War, when there was like

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<v Speaker 4>four or five countries that all invaded Israel at the

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<v Speaker 4>same time. This was not that.

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<v Speaker 3>This uns have you been keeping up with it over

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<v Speaker 3>the past, like twelve hours, eighteen hours?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, apparently Iran broke the ceasefire agreement. Shocker. Who could

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<v Speaker 4>have ever predicted that Iran would go back on their word?

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<v Speaker 6>And like, so, okay, cool, cool, Yeah, So I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it seemed like they were coming to a ceasefire and

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<v Speaker 6>there was gonna be a peace agreement gonna be happening

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<v Speaker 6>with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, these kind of things, it's almost like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>whenever you're in the conspiracy world, dude, you know, nothing

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<v Speaker 3>is ever easy, you know what I'm saying, Like nothing's

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<v Speaker 3>ever simple, Like nothing's ever like, oh, they found peace

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<v Speaker 3>and now they they love each other and they're singing

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<v Speaker 3>kumbay A by the fire. It's like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if it's gonna happen that quick. Unfortunately, it's probably gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have to get a little bit dirtier before that happens.

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<v Speaker 4>Typically that's how it goes down.

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<v Speaker 5>And everybody was so worried because they shot at one

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<v Speaker 5>of our bases in the UAE writ in Qatar, and

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<v Speaker 5>they're like, uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, America, they hit one of our bases. But

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<v Speaker 4>but dude, they did. They didn't come close. They shot

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<v Speaker 4>like eighteen shots.

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<v Speaker 5>All of our ground to air defenses shot down the

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<v Speaker 5>missiles before they got closed except for one, right, and

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<v Speaker 5>Iran was like, ah, one of them got through your

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<v Speaker 5>impenetrable force. But it's like, yeah, but the reason why

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<v Speaker 5>we didn't shoot is because it went and hit.

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<v Speaker 2>The dirt nothing.

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<v Speaker 5>It was so far off that they like, we didn't

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<v Speaker 5>send up ordinance to stop it because you suck at

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<v Speaker 5>your job, but we're really good at ours.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm still currently as a time of recording of the

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<v Speaker 5>belief that America is not gonna get actually involved in

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<v Speaker 5>this situation.

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<v Speaker 4>Could be wrong, could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>But I also even if America does get involved, this

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<v Speaker 5>is not gonna be a World War three.

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<v Speaker 4>This will be an open and closed conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>That being said, this episode, we are shooting on a Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>and this isn't coming out until Friday, so a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of them could happen until then, just as it did yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. I guess we'll see what happens. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>just man, I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's hard to remain up to the minute whenever your

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<v Speaker 3>show's got to go out a couple of days in advance,

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>What I mean.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not typically wrong on things like this, but I

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<v Speaker 5>mean I am not a one percent you know guy here,

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<v Speaker 5>And I know if everybody says that if Jacob was

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<v Speaker 5>a FED, he's got to be the worst one ever.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I wasn't read in on this one.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't know that we were about to send ground

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<v Speaker 5>penetrators to Iran.

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<v Speaker 4>I was out of the loop on that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, that is uh, that is need to

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<v Speaker 2>know information, and they just, you know, your FEDS above

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<v Speaker 2>you just thought that that wasn't really required for you

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<v Speaker 2>to know that kind of shit.

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<v Speaker 5>If I am a FED, I'm probably the shit bag

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<v Speaker 5>fed that nobody actually let's read in on the conversations,

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<v Speaker 5>which that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>To although I mean you have long said that I

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<v Speaker 3>am your handler, and I called this one out before

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<v Speaker 3>you did, and so maybe I was a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>more red in than you were.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, who's the fed? Now? You know, everybody quit

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<v Speaker 4>hating on me. I ain't just shit here. Jonathan's the

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<v Speaker 4>one that called this one.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But that being said, we do put the shows out

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<v Speaker 3>the good cult members over there. Of course, you already

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<v Speaker 3>know what we got going on over there. If you

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<v Speaker 3>and even once your your soul leaves your body and

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<v Speaker 3>you'll be able to check us out over there too.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>They ain't savages, but there's a couple of other great

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<v Speaker 3>things that you got over there, But I mean, let's

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<v Speaker 3>just be real. The main reason why everybody goes to

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<v Speaker 3>Patreon is that it is completely emotional fomish. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe kip the kick those nasty ads as they say,

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<v Speaker 3>as we say, and come follow us and support us

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<v Speaker 3>on Patreon. So now let's get to the business. And

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<v Speaker 3>well that was the business, but let's get to the

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<v Speaker 3>actual meat and potatoes of what we're gonna be talking

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<v Speaker 3>about today. Why you decided to listen to this specific episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I know not everybody has time to listen to every

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<v Speaker 3>damn episode we put out because there's fourteen fifteen shows

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<v Speaker 3>a week going on right now, and I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 3>it's an insane thing that we got going on over here,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's a one big, beautiful family, and everybody's purpose

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<v Speaker 3>is to open up that third eye. That is what

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<v Speaker 3>we were put on this planet to do. We do

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<v Speaker 3>believe that it was God's will, it was the Universe's will,

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<v Speaker 3>it was the sources will.

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<v Speaker 2>It might just be my higher self will.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know where it all comes from, to be

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<v Speaker 3>honest with you, but I mean we feel inspired to

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<v Speaker 3>do so and we love doing it. So today we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be talking about Hollywood's hidden hand movies that were

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<v Speaker 3>funded by the US government.

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<v Speaker 4>Indeed.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, baby, So so we're tarting a little propaganda.

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<v Speaker 5>We're talking a little symbolism in the background that people

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<v Speaker 4>What exactly do you mean here.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we had just got done talking about just a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks ago about Tavistock and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>and that's the British version of propaganda on the US,

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<v Speaker 3>which you know, you had the British invasion and all

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of stuff, but.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not a hippie wave and all these things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it wasn't just the Brits that were doing it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we had Sri doing it over here for

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<v Speaker 3>the longest time too. They were working hand in hand

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<v Speaker 3>with that, amongst other you know, think tanks. But this

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<v Speaker 3>one is more going to be government and military based.

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<v Speaker 3>As far as like, dude, I didn't know that the

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<v Speaker 3>government has a certain amount of money that they can

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<v Speaker 3>spend as far as their propagation in Hollywood. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of figured so like we always thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like it it's one thing to to see a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of propaganda and you're like, oh man, that director,

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<v Speaker 3>what direction. Was he trying to point this show or

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<v Speaker 3>this movie or whatever in But sometimes it is so

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<v Speaker 3>easy to spot that the government had some kind of

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<v Speaker 3>hand within the script writing and everything of movies.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>I could believe this because we talked about this too

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<v Speaker 5>with the NFL. For instance, when they the DoD started

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<v Speaker 5>paying the NFL to make sure that the star spangled

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<v Speaker 5>banner was shown, that the players had to stand with

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<v Speaker 5>wasn't a law until I want to say it was

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<v Speaker 5>like a law. It wasn't a rule in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 5>trying to draw more on the recruiting side of things,

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<v Speaker 5>so they made the NFL go this direction. And I mean, yes,

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<v Speaker 5>they always played the national anthem before football game, that's

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<v Speaker 5>never been a question, but the optics of it being

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<v Speaker 5>what it is today.

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<v Speaker 2>The DoD paid the NF fell for that.

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<v Speaker 4>So when you look at Hollywood movies especially, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 4>could believe that the DoD has some money to throw

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<v Speaker 4>Hollywood's way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Now, it's not you know, confirmed, the amount that

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<v Speaker 3>they have to spend. It's possible that there's no cap

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<v Speaker 3>to it. But it is interesting because a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>these movies are extremely patriotic in nature. Now you would say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>why would you need to program the American minds to

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<v Speaker 3>be patriotic? Everybody should be patriotic. We should all live

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<v Speaker 3>the country that we are, love the country that we

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<v Speaker 3>of stragglers out there that hate this country and will

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<v Speaker 3>do whatever they can to bad mouth this country, We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna make sure we propagandize within military movies. It's mainly

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<v Speaker 3>military movies if I'm being real, but you know, and

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<v Speaker 3>it could be like recruitment style things like we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about like Top Gun before, about how Top Gun was

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<v Speaker 3>one of the main recruiters for the Navy at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>which came out in eighty six. Right, it works, It

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely works. I mean yeah it did, because what was

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<v Speaker 3>Saving Private Ryan? Your movie?

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<v Speaker 7>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Saving Private Ryan was mine? Absolutely and uh Maverick that movie.

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<v Speaker 5>So the recruiting numbers for the military have been down

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<v Speaker 5>they were pretty much banking on these people joining and

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<v Speaker 5>Maverick movie came out and the Navy actually saw not

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<v Speaker 4>But they met their quota. No other branch did.

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<v Speaker 5>Very interesting that came out around the time Tom Cruise

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's all very specific, you know, kind of plotted,

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<v Speaker 3>as some of these movies go. And we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>into it's not just the movies either, is that the

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<v Speaker 3>the government and the military have certain actors that they

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<v Speaker 3>like to call on more so than other actors, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>not always military, but today's today's episode is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be mainly military movies that were funded by the government, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>to propagandize and to basically make everybody patriotic and and

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<v Speaker 3>responders and all that stuff in a positive light. So

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<v Speaker 3>I would understand that, I do get why they would

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<v Speaker 3>do it. But it's not that cut and dry as

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<v Speaker 3>nothing ever is. So we're gonnare's government funding going to it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's going to be buffoonery and but fuckery along the way.

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<v Speaker 3>where the money's being funded.

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<v Speaker 7>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So you had, uh, what was that that program that

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<v Speaker 3>they that all of the stores and all the companies

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<v Speaker 3>had to run, uh to make sure that they were

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<v Speaker 3>like supportive of gay pride and uh oh DEI yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all the DEI the yeah, all of that they And then.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm glad that that's so antiquated that you forgot what

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<v Speaker 5>the acronym was. And it's only been a few months

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<v Speaker 5>since that's been off the books. But like that that

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<v Speaker 5>thing that used to be, Yeah, I'm happy about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it was ridiculous. I mean it was so.

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<v Speaker 3>It not genuine, you know what I mean, Like it

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<v Speaker 3>was corporate and it's corporate support you know. Damn well,

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<v Speaker 3>Target doesn't give a shit if if you tuck your

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<v Speaker 3>wiener somewhere, Like they're just like, no, we need money,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and look if we got to do this,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's a law that we have to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what's interesting is is that you see now

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<v Speaker 3>during Pride month, which isn't it this month it's about

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<v Speaker 3>to end. I have not seen any corporate logo with

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<v Speaker 3>a rainbow on it, have you.

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<v Speaker 5>Nope, because it's no longer required. And that's saving companies money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep.

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<v Speaker 3>And and all of those corporations that you thought were

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<v Speaker 3>so supportive, No, they were doing it because they had to.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't have any other choice, Like Budweiser almost went

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<v Speaker 3>under because of it, right, And and that's and that's

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<v Speaker 3>a shame. You know, we all want we all want,

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<v Speaker 3>like the the companies and corporations that we love and support,

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<v Speaker 3>we all want them to be able to kick back.

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<v Speaker 3>But unfortunately they're gonna get fined if they don't. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's they're just they kind of go along to get along.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just the corporate reality we live in. But thank

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<v Speaker 3>god they ended up repealing all that nonsense. And now

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<v Speaker 3>I can, you know, go on Amazon without there being

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of rainbow flag. Nothing against the rainbow flag

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<v Speaker 3>at all. I don't care you want to be gay, whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>But what I have an issue with is whenever they

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<v Speaker 3>got the light pink and the light blue on there I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the trans flag that thing there, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's not, it's just trans It's like pushing it

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<v Speaker 3>towards kids, you know what I mean, Like that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I will never agree with that.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, Budweiser.

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<v Speaker 5>The only thing that saved them as a company is

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<v Speaker 5>Shane Gillison Post Malone. Let's just be real here, Okay,

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<v Speaker 5>let's just lay all cards on the table. They went

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<v Speaker 5>and played a really stupid game and they won a

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<v Speaker 5>really stupid prize. They had to get the two biggest

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<v Speaker 5>Quintessential bros Ever to save their brand, and honestly, they

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<v Speaker 5>were the only two that could have done it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, well, I mean they they tried their very best.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's funny is as soon as they repealed that,

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<v Speaker 3>they went back to like, you know, like the the

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<v Speaker 3>Man's Beer and you know, you got the horses and

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<v Speaker 3>the carriage and it's all set in the fucking Western times,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like, okay, here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we're back to regular Budweiser.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they act like we forgot. They act like we forgot.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry if you're drinking a bud light, Like there's

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<v Speaker 5>there's easier ways to come out of the closet.

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<v Speaker 2>You're still you're.

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<v Speaker 4>Still if you like bud light by curious, I mean, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>that's fine. I'm not here to judge you. You like

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<v Speaker 4>to put things where they don't like to do you, brother,

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<v Speaker 4>that's fine. But like there is non gay beer out there.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying. It's called Miller High Life.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh Guinness.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's just me shout out to Yingling the fucking a. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>they never went that way. But it's kind of like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like you always say, it's like you build

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<v Speaker 3>a thousand bridges, but then you but then you drink

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<v Speaker 3>one bud light.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, what are you going to be known as?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry, it's not my fault that you told the world.

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<v Speaker 3>This is what it is so ridiculous. All right, let's

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<v Speaker 3>get back to it. So today we're going to be

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<v Speaker 3>diving into a hidden alliance between Hollywood and the US government.

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<v Speaker 3>Through declassified documents and the Freedom of Information Act requests,

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<v Speaker 3>we now know that the Pentagon, the CIA, and other

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<v Speaker 3>agencies have directly influenced hundreds of films and TV shows,

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<v Speaker 3>not just helping with logistics, but literally rewriting scripts, controlling narratives,

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<v Speaker 3>and embedding propaganda from fighter jets to superheroes. The US

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<v Speaker 3>government has been shaping your perception one movie at a time. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>let's dig into the titles that you know and love

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<v Speaker 3>and uncover the programming hidden beneath the plot. So there

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<v Speaker 3>is documented evidence that the US government, particularly through the

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<v Speaker 3>Department of Defense or DoD and the CIA, has funded, influenced,

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<v Speaker 3>or collaborated on a large number of movies and TV

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<v Speaker 3>shows to help shape public perception and promote pro government

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<v Speaker 3>or pro military narratives. This isn't just a conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been confirmed through Foyer requests and scholarly research. So

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<v Speaker 3>where does it all start?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people it's it's hard to keep track

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<v Speaker 3>of it. But you can kind of look back at

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of the older movies and be like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because you see, you know, how they're able,

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<v Speaker 3>how you're able to see kind of through the ship

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<v Speaker 3>for example. Right Like for example, let's say I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know what's your favorite director.

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<v Speaker 4>I really like Scorsese.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say Scorsese he wants to do something with military

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<v Speaker 3>in it, but you know, him just being a director

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<v Speaker 3>or an actor, he doesn't have access to tanks or

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<v Speaker 3>drones and you know, uh, military equipment and military vehicles

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe uh just whatever certain you know, access to

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<v Speaker 3>certain bases and whatnot. Well, then what he'll do is

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<v Speaker 3>he'll he'll go to the d D or uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>other branches of the government and he'll say, all right, look,

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<v Speaker 3>I really need some funding for this, and you'll if

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<v Speaker 3>you'll let me use some of your equipment in the military,

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<v Speaker 3>then I'll let you, you know, diddle the script a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, right, And so that's kind of what you

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<v Speaker 3>what the telltale of how to look for it is

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<v Speaker 3>whenever you see fucking blue angels in the sky, it's like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>the government had a hand in writing this script in

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<v Speaker 3>a sense, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I could see this one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>So the Hollywood and the Pentagon formalized their relationship in

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen forty seven, and this is allegedly it was around

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<v Speaker 3>that year. It's probably happening before that, but are allegedly

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<v Speaker 3>around that.

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<v Speaker 4>You're interesting the year of Roswell, Right, it is, But

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<v Speaker 4>it also kind of makes sense, right, World War Two

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<v Speaker 4>gets wrapped up, all the boys are home, and now

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<v Speaker 4>all of these actors that were serving are now back

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<v Speaker 4>in Hollywood. And this is also why I have such

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<v Speaker 4>an issue with the Duke Old John Wayne. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 4>used to love the guy until I found out he

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<v Speaker 4>was a draft dodger. And the reason why he dodged

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<v Speaker 4>the draft was because at that time he was an

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<v Speaker 4>up and coming star and if he wouldn't have gotten drafted,

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<v Speaker 4>basically all of the big names went to war, he

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<v Speaker 4>was able to land big, big roles with no competition. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>So cut to nineteen forty seven, All of those actors

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<v Speaker 4>that were all fighting and shit are now back home,

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<v Speaker 4>so it kind of makes sense that there'd be a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of some crossover. Not to mention, the great

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<v Speaker 4>World War two just ended, bro, we can make all

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of movies to show our boys and show the heroics,

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<v Speaker 4>which was real. I'm not denying this, but like, it

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<v Speaker 4>would make sense to me that the DoD would want

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<v Speaker 4>things to be done in a certain way and cast

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<v Speaker 4>in a certain light and with a certain flavor on

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<v Speaker 4>it to make America even more proud beating their chest

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<v Speaker 4>than ever before. It perfectly lines up to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Now flip the script literally on that and look at

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<v Speaker 3>it from a different angle.

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<v Speaker 2>Was he a draft Dodger.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure he probably didn't want to go, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he probably went and you know, maybe asked the government

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<v Speaker 3>to Hey, you know what, Look, I can be better

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<v Speaker 3>on screen than I will in the battlefield. So let

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<v Speaker 3>me just stay here and propagandaze for you a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>All eyes are going to be on me. I'm one

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<v Speaker 3>of the biggest fucking names in all of Hollywood right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And not just John Waite, many other actors probably did

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<v Speaker 3>this as well. But I would imagine that there was

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<v Speaker 3>probably some kind of agreement that was had right there,

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<v Speaker 3>because I mean, yeah, I'm not I'm not, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>trying to degrade a singular you know, army soldier or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, branch that he would have gotten in. But

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if you look at it, the propaganda in

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<v Speaker 3>the influence that he would have over millions of people

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<v Speaker 3>as opposed to you know, maybe taking out one guy

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<v Speaker 3>on the battlefield, if even that right, So you could

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<v Speaker 3>almost imagine that they made some kind of deal. That's

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<v Speaker 3>how it plays out in my mind, especially after looking

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<v Speaker 3>through all this.

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<v Speaker 4>It's possible.

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<v Speaker 5>I've looked into the records of him because I didn't

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<v Speaker 5>believe he was really a draft dodger. It was like

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<v Speaker 5>some bullshit bone spur conversation that he he got the

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<v Speaker 5>paper pushed through because he had the right person to

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<v Speaker 5>sign off on it, so to speak. But I mean

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<v Speaker 5>even still, you had like Jimmy Stewart, and you had

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<v Speaker 5>these you had big names that were in all of

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<v Speaker 5>the Westerns at the time who flew and dropped bombs

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<v Speaker 5>on Nazi Germany and stuff like that. Like, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 5>weren't like frontline in the trenches. A lot of them were,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, college educated. So they went officer route and

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<v Speaker 5>they went pilot and they went all.

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<v Speaker 4>Of these things.

427
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<v Speaker 5>But like, yeah, yeah, it's uh kind of shitty how

428
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<v Speaker 5>he did it.

429
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<v Speaker 3>Let me ask you because and this isn't a movie

430
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<v Speaker 3>actor by any means, but this is somebody who you know,

431
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<v Speaker 3>is very highly praised within the NFL, especially in Arizona.

432
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<v Speaker 4>Berger.

433
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<v Speaker 2>No, what are your thoughts on Pat Tillman.

434
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<v Speaker 5>That's the one that's the one that died overseas? Right, Yeah,

435
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<v Speaker 5>I think by friendly fire? Actually, massive piece of shit,

436
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<v Speaker 5>That's what I am so, And this isn't I wasn't there.

437
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<v Speaker 5>I do not know, okay, And I'm not trying to

438
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<v Speaker 5>besmirch the man's legacy. But from what I was told

439
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<v Speaker 5>from people that were not necessarily with that deployment but

440
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<v Speaker 5>around the area at that time, Okay, he did walk

441
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<v Speaker 5>away from millions of dollars of a contract to serve

442
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<v Speaker 5>his nation when he was called upon, and I am

443
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<v Speaker 5>not gonna shit on that whatsoever. From what I was

444
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<v Speaker 5>given to understand, he also was very loud about the

445
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<v Speaker 5>fact that he walked away from millions of dollars to

446
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<v Speaker 5>serve his country, and he wanted everyone to know about it.

447
00:21:28.799 --> 00:21:32.720
<v Speaker 5>Him being a celebrity also kind of put crosshairs on him.

448
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<v Speaker 5>And I'm not sure of the ins and outs of

449
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<v Speaker 5>the day where he actually was killed by you.

450
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<v Speaker 4>Know, blue on blue or green on green, however you

451
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<v Speaker 4>want to call it.

452
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<v Speaker 5>I was given the understanding that that wasn't as much

453
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<v Speaker 5>of an accident as what the news would have you believe,

454
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<v Speaker 5>because he was also that guy, mister fucking cat America,

455
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<v Speaker 5>who was going to go in and get back, but

456
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<v Speaker 5>he was taking unnecessary risks that were put the rest

457
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<v Speaker 5>of his squad and platoon in harm's way because he

458
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<v Speaker 5>fell in love with his own legend and some some

459
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<v Speaker 5>people would say that one of his h enlisted men

460
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<v Speaker 5>were scared for their life if this guy continued to

461
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<v Speaker 5>lead them, so they removed him from uh the battlefield.

462
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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

463
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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if that's true or if it really

464
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<v Speaker 5>was like a complete accidental ind or a negligent discharge

465
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<v Speaker 5>if you will, and uh in just the worst possible scenario.

466
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<v Speaker 4>Ever, I can only go off of reports that I heard.

467
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<v Speaker 3>Friendly fire is considered neglible negligible dish discharge.

468
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<v Speaker 2>Damn, I can't say that negligible.

469
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<v Speaker 4>Damn, you fucking me up to nd. Okay, negligent discharge.

470
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<v Speaker 5>Basically, what that means is you fire when you weren't

471
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<v Speaker 5>supposed to fire. INDI's can happen anywhere. Anytime you watch

472
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<v Speaker 5>some uh some video of a guy cleaning his gun

473
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<v Speaker 5>and it goes off because I didn't know there was

474
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<v Speaker 5>a round in it.

475
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<v Speaker 4>But that that's called n D, right.

476
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<v Speaker 5>So typically indies get shot into the wall and they

477
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<v Speaker 5>scare the shit out of you. And sometimes you'll see

478
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<v Speaker 5>someone shoot themselves in the leg on accident or something.

479
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<v Speaker 5>But in the very worst case scenario, yes, an INDY

480
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<v Speaker 5>can result in someone's death. I understand this, and very

481
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<v Speaker 5>possibly it was something like that. I don't know the

482
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<v Speaker 5>whole story, but from what I was given to understand

483
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<v Speaker 5>by guys who were in and around the area, they

484
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<v Speaker 5>were basically saying, They're like, yeah, he needed to go,

485
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<v Speaker 5>and they weren't willing to sell out their boy. But

486
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<v Speaker 5>they also were saying that he wasn't missed by anybody

487
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<v Speaker 5>in his unit when he got got So I don't know.

488
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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's unfortunate. Well either way, all right, let's get

489
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<v Speaker 3>back to it. So in nineteen forty seven, the US

490
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<v Speaker 3>government officially created the Office of Public Information for the

491
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<v Speaker 3>Pentagon and later the CIA's Office of Public Affairs, which

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<v Speaker 3>liaises directly with filmmakers. From then on, any film that

493
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<v Speaker 3>wanted to use military equipment, personnel, or sets had to

494
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<v Speaker 3>submit scripts for approval and accept edits in exchange for support.

495
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<v Speaker 3>So what was the first movie ever funded by the

496
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<v Speaker 3>US government? That would be actually a very interesting one,

497
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<v Speaker 3>very hotly debated kind of movie, especially for the time

498
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<v Speaker 3>that it came out. But it was called The Birth

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<v Speaker 3>of a Nation. You know this movie, right?

500
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<v Speaker 7>I do.

501
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<v Speaker 5>Indeed for anybody who doesn't know or do you have

502
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<v Speaker 5>a little thing to read about it, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a little thing, but you're aware of what

504
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<v Speaker 2>it is, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is actually believe or not. The first film

506
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<v Speaker 4>ever played in the White House.

507
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<v Speaker 5>President at the time said it was the best movie

508
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<v Speaker 5>he'd ever seen, never mind the fact that it was

509
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<v Speaker 5>the only movie he'd ever seen.

510
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<v Speaker 4>And you there's no two ways about this.

511
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<v Speaker 5>This is a movie about the foundation of the Ku

512
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<v Speaker 5>Klux Klan.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

514
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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to figure out which president that was, Woodrow Wilson. Yeah, okay,

515
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<v Speaker 3>makes sense because he wasn't the best right.

516
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<v Speaker 4>Kind of a piece of shit. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, Now, this Birth of a Nation and it

518
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<v Speaker 3>came out in nineteen fifteen. It says it's unofficially backed

519
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<v Speaker 3>with federal military resources. But if you're looking at you know,

520
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<v Speaker 3>the writing on the wall, writing on the wall, as

521
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<v Speaker 3>far as you know how to be able to determine

522
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<v Speaker 3>if it's military funded or not, it's it's pretty obvious.

523
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<v Speaker 3>But it was directed by this guy named D. W.

524
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<v Speaker 2>Griffith.

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<v Speaker 3>This was the first feature length blockbuster and a tool

526
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<v Speaker 3>of a nationalistic propaganda. The US military loaned cannons, uniforms,

527
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<v Speaker 3>and soldiers for the Civil War battle scenes. The purpose,

528
00:25:32.400 --> 00:25:36.319
<v Speaker 3>which is quite interesting, was to promote national unity after

529
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<v Speaker 3>the Civil War but it ended up. It ended up

530
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<v Speaker 3>glorifying the Ku Klux Klan and demonizing Black Americans. The

531
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<v Speaker 3>film is considered the origin of Hollywood propaganda. It created

532
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<v Speaker 3>the blueprint use epic cinema, emotional hooks, and spectacle to

533
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<v Speaker 3>shape public opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait wait, wait wait, I'm sorry. I'm gonna need you

535
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<v Speaker 4>to pump the brakes on that one, big hoss.

536
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<v Speaker 3>Okay, it was filmed to do what purpose? The purpose

537
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<v Speaker 3>I'll read it again.

538
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<v Speaker 4>Just that one part because it good.

539
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, to promote national unity after the Civil War.

540
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<v Speaker 3>That was the original purpose. But it ended up gloryway,

541
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<v Speaker 3>but it ended up glorifying, glorifying the KKK, and demonizing

542
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<v Speaker 3>Black Americans.

543
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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever seen the movie?

544
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<v Speaker 3>No, it is like for the little clips and shit

545
00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:27.680
<v Speaker 3>of it, but no, I've never seen the whole movie.

546
00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:32.759
<v Speaker 5>For the principle of education, it is worth watching it is.

547
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<v Speaker 5>This was completely done to recruit more men into the

548
00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:42.440
<v Speaker 5>Ku Klux Klan. There's no section of this movie where

549
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<v Speaker 5>you at any point, maybe in the very beginning, where

550
00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 5>you see the Congress passes and you see black men

551
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:51.039
<v Speaker 5>shaking hands proud that they are now going to.

552
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<v Speaker 4>Be considered citizens. That is a five second clip where

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you could argue it was to give national pride.

554
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<v Speaker 4>Then you pan.

555
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<v Speaker 5>Up up and see the white men pissed off that

556
00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:05.440
<v Speaker 5>that just happened. And then from that point onward it

557
00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:08.119
<v Speaker 5>was a recruiting tool strictly to get dudes to join

558
00:27:08.160 --> 00:27:12.400
<v Speaker 5>the Klan. There no, not even one section of this

559
00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:16.200
<v Speaker 5>after that one spot was meant to give any kind

560
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<v Speaker 5>of national pride.

561
00:27:17.680 --> 00:27:19.599
<v Speaker 4>That's that's fucking retarded.

562
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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to find out right now. As far as

563
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<v Speaker 3>oh shocker, Woodrow Wilson, yes, he was a Democrat, of course,

564
00:27:29.000 --> 00:27:32.240
<v Speaker 3>of course, because they always say, well, they always say that,

565
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:34.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, it was essentially the Democrats that created the KKK.

566
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<v Speaker 4>Right, very very true.

567
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:42.160
<v Speaker 3>Literally, this Democrat president in nineteen fifteen played this fucking

568
00:27:42.279 --> 00:27:45.519
<v Speaker 3>movie in the White House and it was funded, It

569
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<v Speaker 3>had government backing to be able to push propaganda. And

570
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:51.880
<v Speaker 3>it's almost like, because here's the thing, you can't just

571
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<v Speaker 3>like say, let's say you're the director of that movie,

572
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<v Speaker 3>Old d W.

573
00:27:55.599 --> 00:27:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Griffith. You can't just say, all.

574
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<v Speaker 3>Right, you know, look if you want to add in

575
00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.079
<v Speaker 3>a couple of things whatever, and then you know, whenever

576
00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:02.480
<v Speaker 3>the movie's out, you'll be able to see it. No,

577
00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:04.960
<v Speaker 3>like you have to go from start to finish with

578
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:08.279
<v Speaker 3>the entire script and the entire you know, full length

579
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:11.480
<v Speaker 3>of the movie and describe it to the government. According

580
00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:14.160
<v Speaker 3>to this, they have to see it first before it's

581
00:28:14.160 --> 00:28:17.400
<v Speaker 3>ever released if it's government backed. And so what Jrow

582
00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:21.119
<v Speaker 3>Wilson and the government completely approved of every scene in

583
00:28:21.160 --> 00:28:21.680
<v Speaker 3>that movie.

584
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:24.160
<v Speaker 4>I will say it was a silent film.

585
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:26.319
<v Speaker 5>So as far as the script goes, it was like

586
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<v Speaker 5>the words on screen, then it would cut to a

587
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:28.480
<v Speaker 5>clip of.

588
00:28:28.519 --> 00:28:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Actually just ree but you know what I'm trying to say,

589
00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:33.119
<v Speaker 3>everything that transpired in the movie, every scene and all that.

590
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:35.000
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, nineteen fifteen.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the president being like, this is the greatest movie

592
00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:40.680
<v Speaker 5>I've ever seen in my life. And it's like, minister President,

593
00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:44.319
<v Speaker 5>you've never seen a movie in your life. But okay, cool, dope,

594
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<v Speaker 5>And this is a yeah. No, this was not in

595
00:28:47.240 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 5>any way, shape or form to give pride of the

596
00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:52.559
<v Speaker 5>nation of America.

597
00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.759
<v Speaker 4>It was the birth of a clan nation. Yeah, yeah,

598
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:57.200
<v Speaker 4>for sure.

599
00:28:57.519 --> 00:29:00.160
<v Speaker 3>So it is the origin of Hollywood propaganda and it

600
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.599
<v Speaker 3>just so happened to coincide with government backing.

601
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 2>So if you're ever trying.

602
00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:07.799
<v Speaker 3>To wonder, like, oh my god, who are these satanic,

603
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.440
<v Speaker 3>fucking weirdos that are running Hollywood? Maybe look no farther

604
00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.480
<v Speaker 3>than our own government that is pushing it. And not

605
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:16.880
<v Speaker 3>in every case, of course, but in a lot of

606
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:18.400
<v Speaker 3>cases it seems that way.

607
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:20.720
<v Speaker 2>So, uh, now we're gonna move on.

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00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Have you ever you've seen clips of it? Yeah?

609
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay, you want to hear some clips of it?

610
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 4>I was just thinking that the entire movies on YouTube.

611
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm not We're not gonna watch a whole movie of it,

612
00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:35.440
<v Speaker 5>but yeah, the let's see where is where are some

613
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 5>clips from this absolute debacle?

614
00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Let's see obviously black and white?

615
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:44.440
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah, it's black and white. Okay, here we

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<v Speaker 5>go those two and a half minutes of it. As

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<v Speaker 5>a matter of fact, all right, let me uh let

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<v Speaker 5>me share the screen, good sir.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, my fine gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 5>For anybody again that would like to see this, come

621
00:29:53.359 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 5>check us out on Patreon. That is where we play

622
00:29:55.839 --> 00:30:05.240
<v Speaker 5>all of our witches and things in the riot, the

623
00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:10.519
<v Speaker 5>riot in Masters Hall, Masters Hall, go ahead, put in

624
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:11.000
<v Speaker 5>that one.

625
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<v Speaker 3>The Negro party in control in the State of House

626
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<v Speaker 3>of Representatives, one hundred and one blacks against twenty three whites.

627
00:30:17.839 --> 00:30:24.160
<v Speaker 3>The session of eighteen seventy one and historical festimile of

628
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<v Speaker 3>the State facimile. Excuse me, wow fastile.

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<v Speaker 5>I read it like I read it of the State

630
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<v Speaker 5>House of Representatives of South Carolina as it was in

631
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<v Speaker 5>eighteen seventy after photographed by the Columbia State.

632
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<v Speaker 4>All right, here we go, music kind of loud on it.

633
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<v Speaker 3>Historic incidents from the first legislative session under reconstruction.

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<v Speaker 4>And you see, these are all white people wearing black face.

635
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<v Speaker 5>By the way, there's no black actors in this movie,

636
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 5>because that they would have to pay the black actors.

637
00:31:13.599 --> 00:31:16.640
<v Speaker 5>You're gonna pay a black person? You out of your

638
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:19.200
<v Speaker 5>mind in nineteen fifty. No, No, these are all white

639
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 5>people wearing black face. Oh my god, you'll see it more.

640
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:25.680
<v Speaker 4>You'll let it play through because we got to talk

641
00:31:25.720 --> 00:31:27.799
<v Speaker 4>through it anyway to describe it to the listeners.

642
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>No, I think these are black That is that is

643
00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:31.640
<v Speaker 2>a black guy, dove that.

644
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:47.200
<v Speaker 4>Flipping a little whiskey eating a turkey leg.

645
00:31:48.519 --> 00:31:50.480
<v Speaker 3>You can definitely tell that some of them are black face,

646
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.039
<v Speaker 3>though not all of them are black people.

647
00:31:54.200 --> 00:31:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Like who the flick of the fucking guy.

648
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.599
<v Speaker 4>Bro, Look at him waving around a chicken leg.

649
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:03.559
<v Speaker 3>The speaker rules that all members must wear shoes.

650
00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:12.039
<v Speaker 2>That particulous, Like, yeah, ridiculous. Wow. Yeah, they're really making

651
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:13.000
<v Speaker 2>him look like clowns in.

652
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:18.519
<v Speaker 4>Here, which that was the purpose it has moved and.

653
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 3>Terry that all whites must salute Negro officers on the streets.

654
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:25.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, well we got our fix of that.

655
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:28.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, let me see if it goes any

656
00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:30.960
<v Speaker 4>further here. Oh yeah, okay, So here's where the scene

657
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:33.440
<v Speaker 4>where it passes and all they're like yay, and then

658
00:32:33.519 --> 00:32:34.079
<v Speaker 4>you look up.

659
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:36.240
<v Speaker 2>And see all the white people are like, oh this hell.

660
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:36.480
<v Speaker 8>Now.

661
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:44.720
<v Speaker 4>Then it cuts to uh, what's his name?

662
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:49.920
<v Speaker 5>Oh u Wilford Buford, Forrest or whatever the fuck, the

663
00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:52.759
<v Speaker 5>guy who created the clan, and he's scared the hell

664
00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.119
<v Speaker 5>out some black kids with a sheet over him, and

665
00:32:55.200 --> 00:32:57.799
<v Speaker 5>then he's got a really good idea and they just

666
00:32:57.799 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 5>become the ghosts of the night, protect the white women

667
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:03.440
<v Speaker 5>and children from a negra.

668
00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:05.920
<v Speaker 4>It was completely disgusting.

669
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:10.559
<v Speaker 3>First movie propagated by the American government, right, the first.

670
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 4>Movie ever played in the White House.

671
00:33:11.960 --> 00:33:15.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the next one, it wouldn't come out until

672
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:19.359
<v Speaker 3>twelve years later. And you're probably aware of this movie.

673
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:24.799
<v Speaker 3>It's called Wings, and it was the first official DoD collaboration,

674
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:27.960
<v Speaker 3>so the other one was unofficial. This is the first

675
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:33.680
<v Speaker 3>official collaborative effort between Hollywood and the DoD. It was

676
00:33:33.720 --> 00:33:38.119
<v Speaker 3>a silent film about World War One pilots and it

677
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:41.759
<v Speaker 3>was funded and produced with US Army Air Corps support

678
00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.720
<v Speaker 3>via planes and bases and personnel. The purpose of the

679
00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:50.440
<v Speaker 3>movie was to boost military aviation's image and encourage enlistment

680
00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:53.839
<v Speaker 3>between wars. So that's all we got on that one

681
00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 3>so far. We're gonna get a little bit more in

682
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:57.880
<v Speaker 3>depth for some of these movies, but this is kind

683
00:33:57.880 --> 00:33:59.559
<v Speaker 3>of just an overview to start.

684
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:01.240
<v Speaker 4>Wings is a cool one.

685
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:03.359
<v Speaker 5>Whenever you look at some of the pilots and what

686
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:05.279
<v Speaker 5>they were doing, it wasn't all done with the screen

687
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.199
<v Speaker 5>behind them. Some of this was like death defying stunts

688
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:12.199
<v Speaker 5>that was being done by stuntmen that like. Especially you

689
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:14.719
<v Speaker 5>look back at the old silent films of stunt that

690
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:19.239
<v Speaker 5>were happening. It's insane and you understand why stuntman died

691
00:34:19.320 --> 00:34:22.239
<v Speaker 5>so frequently. Yeah, it's a it's one of those is

692
00:34:22.280 --> 00:34:24.360
<v Speaker 5>why not a lot of people these days probably never

693
00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 5>seen the movie.

694
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:27.079
<v Speaker 4>I recommend it. It's pretty dope.

695
00:34:27.639 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, here is the movie poster The UH from

696
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:37.199
<v Speaker 3>nineteen twenty seven with Clara Bow Yeah, Charles Buddy Rogers,

697
00:34:37.320 --> 00:34:41.159
<v Speaker 3>Richard Arlin, and Gary Cooper. So yeah, you could see

698
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:45.639
<v Speaker 3>how this was absolutely pushing forth some kind of agenda, right.

699
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:48.920
<v Speaker 4>Oh, absolutely, dude. I mean World War One pilots, we're

700
00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:51.039
<v Speaker 4>talking biplanes like that was.

701
00:34:51.679 --> 00:34:53.559
<v Speaker 5>Those dudes are out of the fucking mind. I wish

702
00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:55.400
<v Speaker 5>I could have been a part of that, because.

703
00:34:55.119 --> 00:34:58.199
<v Speaker 4>That's super fucking cool to me. But also like they

704
00:34:58.199 --> 00:34:59.239
<v Speaker 4>got a couple screws loose.

705
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a million airhard type of shit.

706
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:05.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And like these dudes are flying and essentially what

707
00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:07.280
<v Speaker 5>you could call he like souped up hot rod with

708
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:09.719
<v Speaker 5>wings on it like that. That's all it was is

709
00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:11.599
<v Speaker 5>a big ass fan on the front of their plane.

710
00:35:12.079 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Speaker 4>And there they have enough.

711
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:15.000
<v Speaker 5>They have two wings, and that's the only way they

712
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.239
<v Speaker 5>can get enough lift is with two of them. One

713
00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:19.719
<v Speaker 5>of them isn't enough yet. They haven't gotten that fast yet.

714
00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.119
<v Speaker 5>And they're just doing that with a machine gun, and

715
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:24.880
<v Speaker 5>they're just like, all right, we'll just we'll just fight

716
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:26.719
<v Speaker 5>it out in the sky and see which one's got

717
00:35:26.760 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 5>better control of his plane. Man, it's fucking wild. If

718
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.159
<v Speaker 5>anybody has ever played the movie or not the game

719
00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:34.760
<v Speaker 5>war Thunder. They do a pretty good job of showing

720
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:39.039
<v Speaker 5>how these planes actually maneuvered in combat scenarios.

721
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:40.880
<v Speaker 4>It is fucking wild.

722
00:35:41.599 --> 00:35:45.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and speaking of Amelia Airhart and almost reminds me

723
00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:47.280
<v Speaker 3>not in a negative kind of way, but just a

724
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:50.920
<v Speaker 3>woman flying a plane, you dude, And this is this

725
00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:52.239
<v Speaker 3>might have to be a show that we do one

726
00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:54.880
<v Speaker 3>of these days. But you've heard of Helen Keller flying

727
00:35:54.920 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 3>a fucking plane.

728
00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.079
<v Speaker 4>The blind and death chick from the Civil War.

729
00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:02.559
<v Speaker 2>She flew a fucking plane allegedly, are.

730
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:03.960
<v Speaker 4>We talking of? Like she had her hand on the

731
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 4>stick for a few seconds and then she let go.

732
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 3>Dumb, deaf and blind Helen Keller in nineteen forty six

733
00:36:10.639 --> 00:36:14.599
<v Speaker 3>piloted a plane for twenty minutes while traveling from Rome

734
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:19.000
<v Speaker 3>to Paris with her interpreter, Polly Thompson relaying the pilot's

735
00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.920
<v Speaker 3>instructions to her. Despite being deaf and blind, Keller demonstrated

736
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.440
<v Speaker 3>remarkable control and calmness while flying.

737
00:36:26.079 --> 00:36:28.400
<v Speaker 4>Because she had no concept of what would happen if

738
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 4>she knows though she didn't know what that was, like, Okay, yup, wow,

739
00:36:32.599 --> 00:36:33.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I don't know.

740
00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:35.840
<v Speaker 2>She might not have been deaf and blind.

741
00:36:35.920 --> 00:36:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Now, dude, you know what I'm saying, because what was

742
00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:42.639
<v Speaker 3>the what's the fucking the musician, Not Ray Charles, the

743
00:36:42.679 --> 00:36:44.400
<v Speaker 3>other one that's that's blind.

744
00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:47.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh, Ray Charles ain't blind. Oh I tell about Stevie Wonder.

745
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 4>Stevie Wonder. Yeah the shit.

746
00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:52.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of speculation that he's probably

747
00:36:52.440 --> 00:36:54.400
<v Speaker 3>not blind. And it's kind of all for show. So

748
00:36:54.559 --> 00:36:56.880
<v Speaker 3>it almost makes me wonder if Helen Keller was on

749
00:36:56.960 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 3>some shit like that. I don't know, you know, actually,

750
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.800
<v Speaker 3>back whenever I was in elementary school, we had Helen

751
00:37:01.880 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 3>Keller's sister or mom or something show up to our

752
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:08.480
<v Speaker 3>class and she was.

753
00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.440
<v Speaker 4>Having to be like her great granddaughter or something or like.

754
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:15.199
<v Speaker 3>Niece is somebody related to her? I don't know, but anyway, Yeah,

755
00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:16.960
<v Speaker 3>actually I think you're right. I think it was her

756
00:37:17.039 --> 00:37:21.440
<v Speaker 3>niece or something like that. But but she came because

757
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:23.480
<v Speaker 3>I guess she wrote a book about Helen Keller or whatever.

758
00:37:23.480 --> 00:37:25.400
<v Speaker 3>And she was talking about, you know, all the things

759
00:37:25.440 --> 00:37:27.719
<v Speaker 3>about why you should love each other as you would

760
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:31.039
<v Speaker 3>like to an elementary school and she was telling us

761
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:34.320
<v Speaker 3>all about her, and I was like, dude, fucking that's

762
00:37:34.320 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of wild.

763
00:37:35.039 --> 00:37:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember her.

764
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Saying that Helen Keller flew an airplane, but also I

765
00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:41.119
<v Speaker 3>was like ten whenever, you know, or eight or something

766
00:37:41.159 --> 00:37:42.840
<v Speaker 3>like that whenever she came.

767
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:45.800
<v Speaker 5>So really, we just imagine the pilot being like, all right,

768
00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:47.719
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna get this bitch so high up in the

769
00:37:47.760 --> 00:37:51.039
<v Speaker 5>air that there's no way that she could like fuck

770
00:37:51.119 --> 00:37:53.280
<v Speaker 5>this up and just let her kind of we we

771
00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:55.519
<v Speaker 5>just kind of do whatever for a little bit, never

772
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:57.079
<v Speaker 5>gonna land it, and there you go.

773
00:37:57.360 --> 00:38:01.159
<v Speaker 4>Anybody could fly, even Helen Keller could fly. Yeah I could.

774
00:38:01.159 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 4>I could see that for the propaganda.

775
00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Next thing, you know, like her instructor is like, all right, Helen,

776
00:38:06.400 --> 00:38:09.639
<v Speaker 3>just just grab the wheel rad here and just just

777
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:13.000
<v Speaker 3>coast a little bit. And she's like, I ain't even blind, motherfucker,

778
00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:14.599
<v Speaker 3>we knowing barrel rolls, you know.

779
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>It just starts going crazy up there.

780
00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:19.320
<v Speaker 3>And the guy's like, oh my god, I'm I'm gonna

781
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:21.800
<v Speaker 3>die now, all because I was manipulated and think you

782
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:24.199
<v Speaker 3>were a blind old bitch. Turns out she wasn't. But

783
00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:26.360
<v Speaker 3>it's still interesting that she was flying a plane though.

784
00:38:26.960 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 4>I'd never heard of that one. That's fucking crazy.

785
00:38:29.320 --> 00:38:33.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dude, all right, So here's a list of notable movies,

786
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:35.159
<v Speaker 3>not all of We're not going to talk about every

787
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:37.199
<v Speaker 3>single one of them, because there's literally been tens of

788
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.559
<v Speaker 3>thousands of movies that were funded by the government, but

789
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:41.719
<v Speaker 3>some of the are more notable ones we're going to

790
00:38:41.760 --> 00:38:44.639
<v Speaker 3>be bringing up that were either funded, supported, or heavily

791
00:38:44.760 --> 00:38:49.480
<v Speaker 3>influenced by the US government, especially the DoD. So the

792
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:51.760
<v Speaker 3>first list is going to be military and do OD

793
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 3>supported films. These films receive funding, equipment, script approval, or

794
00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:03.400
<v Speaker 3>logistical support from the Pentagon. Specific first one, nineteen eighty six,

795
00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 3>Top Gun comes out right absolutely. It was co produced

796
00:39:06.719 --> 00:39:11.039
<v Speaker 3>with US Navy support, and recruitment soared after its release.

797
00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:13.920
<v Speaker 4>And we're going to my buddies used to work with.

798
00:39:13.960 --> 00:39:16.559
<v Speaker 5>We're actually on the plane or in the on the

799
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:19.119
<v Speaker 5>ship in one of the opening scenes like of the

800
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.159
<v Speaker 5>movie when danger Zone is playing and they're like, you know,

801
00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 5>when he's taken off, you could see him for a

802
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:25.639
<v Speaker 5>split second.

803
00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:26.760
<v Speaker 4>He was one of the flight crew.

804
00:39:27.039 --> 00:39:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's sick.

805
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:30.039
<v Speaker 5>And he was actually in the Navy at that time

806
00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:32.840
<v Speaker 5>because they used a real naval ship for that scene.

807
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I was an extra in twenty one Jump Street. Anybody

808
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:38.039
<v Speaker 3>can see me on there for like five seconds. I'm

809
00:39:38.079 --> 00:39:40.360
<v Speaker 3>hanging out with this little black shauty and that's my

810
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 3>girlfriend for the movie. And I got her up against

811
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.800
<v Speaker 3>the locker and I'm just like, you know, risen her up, dude,

812
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:48.559
<v Speaker 3>And and you could see it literally for five seconds

813
00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:51.199
<v Speaker 3>in the beginning of the movie Whenever Chanting Long here

814
00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:54.800
<v Speaker 3>and you know, Jonah Hill had fucking his whole eminem phase.

815
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:55.599
<v Speaker 2>It was pretty fun.

816
00:39:56.079 --> 00:39:58.039
<v Speaker 5>I needed you to show me that one of these days.

817
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:00.239
<v Speaker 5>I've heard you say this, I've actually never seen you

818
00:40:00.280 --> 00:40:02.199
<v Speaker 5>in it. I've never looked. So we're gonna have to

819
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:03.079
<v Speaker 5>figure this out one day.

820
00:40:03.119 --> 00:40:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Its back whenever I had a baby face. I couldn't

821
00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:08.519
<v Speaker 3>even grow facial hair yet, dude, I couldn't even swoop. No,

822
00:40:08.639 --> 00:40:11.760
<v Speaker 3>I think I had short hair, but yeah, this was dude.

823
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:13.719
<v Speaker 3>I couldn't even grow a beard until I was like

824
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:14.280
<v Speaker 3>twenty five.

825
00:40:14.400 --> 00:40:17.039
<v Speaker 4>Dude. Yeah, same pretty much.

826
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.199
<v Speaker 3>But anyhow, so we're kind of just going to burn

827
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:21.800
<v Speaker 3>through this list and then we're gonna go a little

828
00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:24.400
<v Speaker 3>bit more in depth here in a minute. So first off,

829
00:40:24.440 --> 00:40:26.920
<v Speaker 3>Top Gun. The next one Top Gun Maverick, which came

830
00:40:26.960 --> 00:40:28.800
<v Speaker 3>out in twenty twenty two. These are in no specific

831
00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:30.519
<v Speaker 3>order as far as you know the release.

832
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Dates or anything.

833
00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:35.800
<v Speaker 3>So once again with Maverick, they used navy jets and

834
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:39.559
<v Speaker 3>carriers and the script reviewed and it was reviewed and

835
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:43.360
<v Speaker 3>influenced by the DoD obviously. The next one, probably not

836
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.239
<v Speaker 3>going to surprise you, is Transformers. All the movies of

837
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:51.559
<v Speaker 3>Transformers yep. So Transformers first one came out in two

838
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:54.800
<v Speaker 3>thousand and seven, they're still making them, and the Pentagon

839
00:40:54.840 --> 00:41:00.639
<v Speaker 3>in military hardware provided in exchange for script oversight. So interesting.

840
00:41:01.000 --> 00:41:03.440
<v Speaker 3>Next one being iron Man, the first one in two

841
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:06.599
<v Speaker 3>thousand and eight, and the more I looked into it,

842
00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 3>the first one they absolutely approved. The second one, I

843
00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:12.000
<v Speaker 3>guess they started wanting to do their own thing and

844
00:41:12.039 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 3>not want so much military whatever messing around with as

845
00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:20.559
<v Speaker 3>far as the script goes. And then they eventually ended

846
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:24.960
<v Speaker 3>up losing the military support and stuff like that, which

847
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:28.039
<v Speaker 3>I think that they probably overall, just Disney and Marvel

848
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.039
<v Speaker 3>altogether probably still collectively get that funding. But as for

849
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Iron Man, I from what I read, they eventually ended

850
00:41:34.920 --> 00:41:37.960
<v Speaker 3>up going off script, and yeah, they ended.

851
00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:42.400
<v Speaker 5>Up making sense Stark Industries being the military supplier that

852
00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:44.760
<v Speaker 5>it was in the movie. In the first one like

853
00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:46.880
<v Speaker 5>that was that was the push, you know what I mean?

854
00:41:46.920 --> 00:41:49.480
<v Speaker 5>The second one you had kind of something to be

855
00:41:49.559 --> 00:41:52.199
<v Speaker 5>said for that third one that wasn't even a conversation,

856
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:53.239
<v Speaker 5>so I could understand this.

857
00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:54.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

858
00:41:54.360 --> 00:41:57.480
<v Speaker 3>So in Iron Man, the first one, it says it

859
00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:01.559
<v Speaker 3>received military assistance, though later Marvel had tensions with the

860
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:06.199
<v Speaker 3>DoD for sequels. As I was saying, next one, you

861
00:42:06.280 --> 00:42:09.360
<v Speaker 3>got Captain Marvel, which one of the worst Marvel movies

862
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:09.880
<v Speaker 3>of all time.

863
00:42:10.760 --> 00:42:12.519
<v Speaker 4>It makes sense because wasn't she a pilot?

864
00:42:13.239 --> 00:42:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

865
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so Captain Marvel came out in twenty nineteen. It

866
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:20.000
<v Speaker 3>was produced in cooperation with the US Air Force as

867
00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:21.639
<v Speaker 3>a recruitment tool for women.

868
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:22.719
<v Speaker 2>How about that?

869
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:26.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, which, again, the actual Captain Marvel was a guy.

870
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.719
<v Speaker 5>Captain Marvel didn't become a girl until he died and

871
00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:33.440
<v Speaker 5>his wife took over. But it was well after he

872
00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:35.239
<v Speaker 5>had already made it what it was. If we're going

873
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.239
<v Speaker 5>to go off to the comic books, but don't let

874
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:38.679
<v Speaker 5>Disney find that out.

875
00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

876
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:42.280
<v Speaker 3>You know what's funny too, is you know how we

877
00:42:42.360 --> 00:42:45.000
<v Speaker 3>always like bring up about how, you know, they made

878
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:49.559
<v Speaker 3>Little Mermaid black or they made fucking snow white whatever,

879
00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.320
<v Speaker 3>she was right, and it's like, why are they doing that.

880
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:54.519
<v Speaker 3>Why are they doing that? It seems almost like they're

881
00:42:54.559 --> 00:42:57.000
<v Speaker 3>just they know that they're going to cause a lot

882
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:59.639
<v Speaker 3>of you know, tension in between races and stuff like that.

883
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:02.400
<v Speaker 3>You know what I just read And I may have

884
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 3>said this already, but I can't remember. Fucking So, your

885
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:09.199
<v Speaker 3>boy Chadwick Boseman, who's the original black panther, right, he

886
00:43:09.360 --> 00:43:12.239
<v Speaker 3>died and he actually knew whenever he was filming that

887
00:43:12.280 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Speaker 3>movie that he only had a little bit longer to go.

888
00:43:14.239 --> 00:43:16.480
<v Speaker 3>So poor guy. He was like, I'm I'm gonna die

889
00:43:16.480 --> 00:43:18.599
<v Speaker 3>after this, and everybody thought that he was joking or

890
00:43:18.679 --> 00:43:19.760
<v Speaker 3>like just being extra.

891
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:21.880
<v Speaker 5>And then you know, they talk so much about him

892
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:24.239
<v Speaker 5>losing weight and how he looked this way, and then

893
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:27.079
<v Speaker 5>later they realize like, oh god, because he was dying

894
00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:27.639
<v Speaker 5>the whole time.

895
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:29.639
<v Speaker 4>It's like, yeah, don't you feel shitty?

896
00:43:29.880 --> 00:43:31.760
<v Speaker 3>I know, dude, I love that guy too. He's such

897
00:43:31.800 --> 00:43:36.400
<v Speaker 3>a good, good character. But now they're talking about bringing

898
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:42.599
<v Speaker 3>a white black panther, right, Okay, So I for the record,

899
00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:46.440
<v Speaker 3>you know who they're talking about him playing that character

900
00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:48.760
<v Speaker 3>is fucking Ryan Gosling.

901
00:43:49.519 --> 00:43:50.119
<v Speaker 4>Shut up.

902
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:51.599
<v Speaker 2>I swear, I swear.

903
00:43:51.400 --> 00:43:54.360
<v Speaker 5>All right for everybody out there, I will be so

904
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:59.159
<v Speaker 5>fucking pissed for making a white black Panther just as

905
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:00.880
<v Speaker 5>much as I'd be pi just about them making a

906
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:05.760
<v Speaker 5>Mexican snow white. That's fucking stupid and insulting, like stop it.

907
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, allegedly it is written in the script,

908
00:44:08.800 --> 00:44:11.639
<v Speaker 3>like in all the comic books that eventually, once the

909
00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:14.960
<v Speaker 3>Black Panther dies, there is a white guy who is

910
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:18.880
<v Speaker 3>in Wakanda and ends up fighting. I think he ends

911
00:44:18.960 --> 00:44:21.920
<v Speaker 3>up like fighting and defeating the original Black Panther, And

912
00:44:21.960 --> 00:44:24.000
<v Speaker 3>so then whenever he goes to take his mask off,

913
00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.239
<v Speaker 3>he's a white guy with blonde hair and really white skin,

914
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:29.800
<v Speaker 3>and everybody's taken my surprise and everything. So look after that,

915
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:31.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure there's gonna be some controversy with that for sure.

916
00:44:32.039 --> 00:44:35.000
<v Speaker 5>Oh now we're gonna stick to the comic book script, Disney,

917
00:44:35.480 --> 00:44:36.599
<v Speaker 5>Now we're gonna do that.

918
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:39.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what the fuck ever? Yeah?

919
00:44:39.599 --> 00:44:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

920
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:42.639
<v Speaker 3>So uh yeah, you got Captain Marvel trying to recruit

921
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:47.360
<v Speaker 3>women to the Air Force. Then Blackhawk Down came out

922
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:49.679
<v Speaker 3>in two thousand and one, heavily supported by the DoD,

923
00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:53.960
<v Speaker 3>aimed to sanitize a controversial military operation.

924
00:44:53.880 --> 00:44:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Which one was that controversial operation.

925
00:44:57.599 --> 00:44:59.960
<v Speaker 4>That would be the US's involvement in some.

926
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:04.360
<v Speaker 5>So backstory to that one, and we're not gonna spend

927
00:45:04.360 --> 00:45:07.320
<v Speaker 5>too much time talking about it. Somalia had some shit

928
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:11.159
<v Speaker 5>going on, okay, they which they always do, they currently

929
00:45:11.239 --> 00:45:14.599
<v Speaker 5>do as a matter of fact, and the local warlords

930
00:45:14.639 --> 00:45:18.559
<v Speaker 5>started using hunger as a weapon against his people. We

931
00:45:18.639 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 5>had you and peacekeepers that were going in. Well, first off,

932
00:45:21.320 --> 00:45:23.800
<v Speaker 5>it was humanitarian aid groups that were going in, like

933
00:45:23.840 --> 00:45:28.119
<v Speaker 5>delivering food to the masses. Then these food shipments were

934
00:45:28.119 --> 00:45:31.440
<v Speaker 5>being intercepted by the warlord's goons and he was withholding

935
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:34.639
<v Speaker 5>it strictly to starve out the population into submission.

936
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 4>So then you and peace forces went in. The blue hats.

937
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:40.559
<v Speaker 5>They went in and they were trying to establish some

938
00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:44.519
<v Speaker 5>sort of peace in the region. Didn't go well, so

939
00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:47.119
<v Speaker 5>then they sent in the United States Marines. Peace was

940
00:45:47.199 --> 00:45:51.079
<v Speaker 5>established within a few weeks, like because Marines only do

941
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:55.519
<v Speaker 5>one thing, really, really well, and that's what happened. The

942
00:45:55.559 --> 00:45:58.480
<v Speaker 5>Marines were pulled back, and then you had an army

943
00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:03.159
<v Speaker 5>unit that was there to assist in the UN peacekeeping operations.

944
00:46:03.639 --> 00:46:07.599
<v Speaker 5>They went out one day just as a patrol and

945
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.599
<v Speaker 5>they weren't supposed to be gone long. Hell, half the

946
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 5>guys didn't even have all of their plates in their

947
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:15.000
<v Speaker 5>plate carriers, Like they didn't expect to take fire because

948
00:46:15.039 --> 00:46:19.199
<v Speaker 5>like what idiot would shoot at US soldiers like real talk.

949
00:46:19.880 --> 00:46:21.639
<v Speaker 5>Then a black Hawk went down because it got hit

950
00:46:21.679 --> 00:46:23.920
<v Speaker 5>with the lucky hit from an RPG, And it was

951
00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:28.159
<v Speaker 5>an entire it was one snafoo after another in a

952
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:31.639
<v Speaker 5>rescue operation. And yeah, it was a fucking it's an

953
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:34.280
<v Speaker 5>insane movie, all of it based on a true story.

954
00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:37.800
<v Speaker 5>The guys who were there actually will go and talk

955
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:40.679
<v Speaker 5>about this later on in interviews and things. Two of

956
00:46:40.679 --> 00:46:44.320
<v Speaker 5>them I saw went back to is it alac Bar

957
00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:49.960
<v Speaker 5>Bizarre basically the big shopping bazar where like the real

958
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:53.639
<v Speaker 5>firefight took place. They went back there and realized where

959
00:46:53.639 --> 00:46:55.639
<v Speaker 5>they were. You can still see the bullet strafs in

960
00:46:55.719 --> 00:46:57.360
<v Speaker 5>the buildings from where they were there.

961
00:46:58.440 --> 00:46:59.079
<v Speaker 4>All the way through.

962
00:46:59.079 --> 00:47:01.000
<v Speaker 5>They ended up having to run what was called the

963
00:47:01.079 --> 00:47:04.000
<v Speaker 5>Mogadishu Mile because there were no more vics that were

964
00:47:04.039 --> 00:47:05.800
<v Speaker 5>able to come get them, and these dudes with all

965
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:08.639
<v Speaker 5>their gears shot up and everything else, had to run

966
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:12.000
<v Speaker 5>on foot back to safety from the fucking mob.

967
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 4>It's an insane story.

968
00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 3>Wow, All right, Well that's the DoD aiming to sanitize

969
00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:21.960
<v Speaker 3>a controversial military operation. Black Hawk Down came out in

970
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.000
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one. I can't help it, but every

971
00:47:24.039 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 3>time I hear black hawk Down, I think of fucking

972
00:47:26.480 --> 00:47:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Jennifer Aniston and we're the Miller's where she's like, black

973
00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 3>cock Down.

974
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:30.920
<v Speaker 2>Black cock Down.

975
00:47:34.400 --> 00:47:36.119
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know where you were going with that, but god,

976
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:37.320
<v Speaker 4>I forgot about that one.

977
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they were playing like charades or some shit.

978
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:41.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. All right.

979
00:47:41.440 --> 00:47:43.760
<v Speaker 3>The next one we got is The Lone Survivor, came

980
00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:47.000
<v Speaker 3>out in twenty thirteen, supported by the Navy, Seals and

981
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:52.280
<v Speaker 3>DoD and it was intended to valorize a failed Afghanistan mission.

982
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 5>That one's also riddle with controversy. I'm not trying to

983
00:47:57.079 --> 00:48:00.480
<v Speaker 5>talk shit on Marclus Latrell. A lot of people in

984
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:03.599
<v Speaker 5>the special forces community have said that.

985
00:48:03.039 --> 00:48:07.000
<v Speaker 4>That movie is a lie, a lie.

986
00:48:09.039 --> 00:48:12.880
<v Speaker 5>It's yep, that's one of the most things that has

987
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:13.719
<v Speaker 5>ever come out.

988
00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:16.559
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, you got the Navy Seals and the

989
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:19.360
<v Speaker 3>DD looking to you know, put their two cents in

990
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:21.400
<v Speaker 3>that movie, and I would imagine it was probably closer

991
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.760
<v Speaker 3>to ninety eight cents as opposed to two cents.

992
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:26.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, when you only get one guy that

993
00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.079
<v Speaker 5>comes home and his story is the only one that

994
00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:32.079
<v Speaker 5>you can go off of, and his story has changed

995
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:37.599
<v Speaker 5>like thirty times. You know, some people might start to

996
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:41.599
<v Speaker 5>say that the story stinks to high heavens. I w

997
00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:45.280
<v Speaker 5>wasn't there. I don't know, Marcus. With the information I've

998
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:46.880
<v Speaker 5>looked up, I was like, ooh, this is.

999
00:48:46.920 --> 00:48:49.719
<v Speaker 4>Dirty, dirty, and I'm gonna put that info right back

1000
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.199
<v Speaker 4>where I found it. We're just gonna walk away from

1001
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:52.599
<v Speaker 4>this one.

1002
00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:54.239
<v Speaker 2>So very much like John McCain.

1003
00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:59.519
<v Speaker 4>Then, no, no, McCain fucked over his boys like.

1004
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.199
<v Speaker 2>One of the only ones that came back though, right.

1005
00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:04.559
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, But then when he got back and he knew

1006
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:06.719
<v Speaker 5>there were still hundreds of guys that were over there,

1007
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:10.519
<v Speaker 5>he went ahead and like wiped their their records and

1008
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:13.800
<v Speaker 5>their call numbers and all these call signs. Latrell didn't

1009
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:17.119
<v Speaker 5>do that because his team, like all of them did

1010
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:18.840
<v Speaker 5>get got like he was the only one that made

1011
00:49:18.880 --> 00:49:19.239
<v Speaker 5>it out and.

1012
00:49:19.239 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 4>All these things. But it's like some would say, this

1013
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.760
<v Speaker 4>is not Jacob's words. Don't don't come at Jacob for

1014
00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:27.320
<v Speaker 4>this one. Uh.

1015
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:31.960
<v Speaker 5>Some would say that he Fisherman storied it pretty much

1016
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:35.239
<v Speaker 5>start to finish to make him look in the best

1017
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:40.960
<v Speaker 5>light possible, you know, I don't know. Yeah, he wanted

1018
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:43.559
<v Speaker 5>to get that purple heart. Oh, I mean he was

1019
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:45.840
<v Speaker 5>getting that anyway. He was shot, like he was. If

1020
00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:47.280
<v Speaker 5>you make it out alive, you're getting a.

1021
00:49:47.239 --> 00:49:49.679
<v Speaker 4>Purple heart from from getting injured in some way from

1022
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:50.119
<v Speaker 4>the enemy.

1023
00:49:50.159 --> 00:49:51.679
<v Speaker 2>But it wasn't that.

1024
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:55.800
<v Speaker 4>It's like even the voting that okay, you know, I'll

1025
00:49:55.800 --> 00:49:59.039
<v Speaker 4>spend ten seconds on this. Have you ever seen the movie? Uh?

1026
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean it has been a win minute

1027
00:50:00.840 --> 00:50:03.400
<v Speaker 3>and I don't really remember it, but yeah.

1028
00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:05.639
<v Speaker 4>Very early in the movie, you got the kid and

1029
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:08.079
<v Speaker 4>the dad or whatever they like, the goat herders, and

1030
00:50:08.119 --> 00:50:10.480
<v Speaker 4>they're like debating what should they do with them?

1031
00:50:10.719 --> 00:50:12.400
<v Speaker 5>And if they let them go, they'll just go tell

1032
00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:14.519
<v Speaker 5>the bad guys where we are. We'll take a vote

1033
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:18.079
<v Speaker 5>on it all in favor. No, the fuck you wouldn't know.

1034
00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:21.920
<v Speaker 5>The fuck you wouldn't The commander, the highest in charge

1035
00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.360
<v Speaker 5>would say this is what we're doing, and that would

1036
00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:28.400
<v Speaker 5>be that end of conversation period, fucking period. There would

1037
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:32.199
<v Speaker 5>be no voting on a consensus for everybody. We're all

1038
00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:34.440
<v Speaker 5>equal here, we're gonna get the fir No, the fuck

1039
00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:38.039
<v Speaker 5>you would not. It's incorrect and then obviously, what do

1040
00:50:38.079 --> 00:50:39.960
<v Speaker 5>you think is gonna happen when you release.

1041
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:41.519
<v Speaker 4>This kid that you just caught.

1042
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:43.639
<v Speaker 5>You think he's just gonna be like, dude, to do

1043
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.719
<v Speaker 5>Americans are here, I'm just gonna mind my business. No, No,

1044
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:48.880
<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying they should have killed the kid. I'm

1045
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:51.239
<v Speaker 5>not saying they shouldn't have killed the kid. I wasn't there,

1046
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.400
<v Speaker 5>but I'm just saying, right off the rip, it already

1047
00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:55.880
<v Speaker 5>is smelling like some bullshit.

1048
00:50:56.199 --> 00:50:58.920
<v Speaker 4>And there's been numerous podcasts.

1049
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:02.920
<v Speaker 5>That have come out actually calling out stolen valor uh

1050
00:51:03.159 --> 00:51:05.639
<v Speaker 5>like Tim Kennedy for instance, He has been getting called

1051
00:51:05.639 --> 00:51:10.000
<v Speaker 5>out a lot lately for these quote unquote stories that

1052
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:12.599
<v Speaker 5>he has gone on and you know, made himself famous

1053
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.239
<v Speaker 5>for talking about where people that were stationed with him

1054
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:17.199
<v Speaker 5>and were on these operations are saying.

1055
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:19.760
<v Speaker 4>No, you didn't do that, That's not what happened. What

1056
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.159
<v Speaker 4>the fuck are you talking about? People?

1057
00:51:22.360 --> 00:51:25.320
<v Speaker 5>Those same groups are have been calling out Marcus Latrell

1058
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:27.000
<v Speaker 5>for these things.

1059
00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Yeah, I was just looking at pictures and yeah

1060
00:51:30.480 --> 00:51:33.800
<v Speaker 3>it's I remember now because Mark Wahlberg was in it. Yeah,

1061
00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:37.159
<v Speaker 3>Marky Mark was the boy and your boy fucking what's

1062
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.559
<v Speaker 3>his name? Taylor, kitch. You know who that is?

1063
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Uh, yeah, he was. He was also in it.

1064
00:51:43.880 --> 00:51:45.880
<v Speaker 3>But he was in my one of my favorite movies

1065
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:49.000
<v Speaker 3>of all time, which is called, uh John Carter. I

1066
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:51.360
<v Speaker 3>think it's a Disney movie where he goes like teleports

1067
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:54.559
<v Speaker 3>to Mars and shit, fucking awesome movie. But then you

1068
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:59.159
<v Speaker 3>find out so he was also Oh god, what's.

1069
00:51:58.960 --> 00:52:01.599
<v Speaker 4>The he was Alexander super Tramp.

1070
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:05.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I haven't seen that one, but what's the the

1071
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:08.079
<v Speaker 3>card guy in in Marvel I can't think of what

1072
00:52:08.199 --> 00:52:08.559
<v Speaker 3>his name.

1073
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:11.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh you're talking about Gambit Gambit, Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh

1074
00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:14.679
<v Speaker 4>Channing Tatum with a bullshit Cajun accent. Well, he was

1075
00:52:14.719 --> 00:52:18.039
<v Speaker 4>the original Gambit in like Wolverine, in one of the

1076
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:21.960
<v Speaker 4>Wolverine movies, and he was awesome. But yeah, then you

1077
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:24.039
<v Speaker 4>find out that fucking he got wrapped up in all

1078
00:52:24.039 --> 00:52:26.239
<v Speaker 4>that pedal shit too, and it's like, fuck Danny.

1079
00:52:26.719 --> 00:52:27.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I heard.

1080
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:29.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean I can't I can't verify it, but that's

1081
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 3>what I heard that he was like deeply involved in that.

1082
00:52:31.880 --> 00:52:33.400
<v Speaker 2>That's why he wasn't in movies or anything for the

1083
00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:34.039
<v Speaker 2>longest time.

1084
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:35.840
<v Speaker 4>I thought he just walked away.

1085
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:39.280
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I know he was in Lords of Dogtown, Like, yeah,

1086
00:52:39.320 --> 00:52:40.360
<v Speaker 5>I like him as an actor.

1087
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:42.880
<v Speaker 4>I didn't know he was about them diddling of the children.

1088
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Man.

1089
00:52:43.360 --> 00:52:49.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dude, unfortunate. Don't meet your heroes unless you were

1090
00:52:50.320 --> 00:52:52.559
<v Speaker 3>some good cult members who came to bro Grove and

1091
00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:54.599
<v Speaker 3>you got to meet. Well, I'm not gonna say we're

1092
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:56.920
<v Speaker 3>your heroes by any means. We're just regular fucking people.

1093
00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna suck my own dick that hard. But yeah,

1094
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:03.239
<v Speaker 3>it was cool hanging out with some of the good

1095
00:53:03.239 --> 00:53:06.079
<v Speaker 3>cult members. But anyway, So the next movie we're gonna

1096
00:53:06.079 --> 00:53:08.280
<v Speaker 3>talk about after Loan Survivor is Active Valor.

1097
00:53:08.559 --> 00:53:11.599
<v Speaker 5>See that one, hm, And now when they actually used

1098
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:14.960
<v Speaker 5>real Navy seals to act out these roles, So I mean, yeah,

1099
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:20.000
<v Speaker 5>you could the level of DoD unison that was had

1100
00:53:20.079 --> 00:53:22.400
<v Speaker 5>with the director. I mean you can't separate on this one.

1101
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1102
00:53:22.880 --> 00:53:25.519
<v Speaker 3>So Active Valor came out in twenty twelve, featured active

1103
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:29.480
<v Speaker 3>duty Navy seals, and it was funded and co produced

1104
00:53:29.519 --> 00:53:32.840
<v Speaker 3>by the US Navy. And we're gonna get deeper, as

1105
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I said, on a lot of these, but we're just

1106
00:53:34.519 --> 00:53:36.599
<v Speaker 3>kind of going over the the some of the movies.

1107
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:40.159
<v Speaker 3>We got fifteen movies. We're gonna be talking about. So yeah,

1108
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:42.360
<v Speaker 3>you got actave Valor. Next one came out in two

1109
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:45.760
<v Speaker 3>thousand and eight, is The hurt Locker. It received military support,

1110
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:48.840
<v Speaker 3>though later criticized for dramatizing certain events.

1111
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:52.559
<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent. I liked the movie the first time

1112
00:53:52.559 --> 00:53:56.400
<v Speaker 4>I seen it. It's just, you know, I couldn't watch

1113
00:53:56.480 --> 00:53:59.360
<v Speaker 4>for more than five minutes without calling bullshit on it.

1114
00:53:59.480 --> 00:54:00.199
<v Speaker 4>Like the the.

1115
00:54:00.159 --> 00:54:03.679
<v Speaker 5>EOD guys, the Explosive Ordnance Disposal dudes are psychos.

1116
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:04.760
<v Speaker 4>Not gonna deny that.

1117
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:07.599
<v Speaker 5>And I mean that with all love and respect to

1118
00:54:07.639 --> 00:54:10.159
<v Speaker 5>all my EOD brothers out there. Y'all are fucking crazy,

1119
00:54:10.199 --> 00:54:13.599
<v Speaker 5>but you're the craziest that we need. Okay that being said,

1120
00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:18.559
<v Speaker 5>never ever, fucking ever will there be a d D

1121
00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:22.000
<v Speaker 5>team that is used in a counter sniper operation.

1122
00:54:22.639 --> 00:54:26.320
<v Speaker 4>That's that is preposterous out loud. But yeah, that was

1123
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:29.320
<v Speaker 4>like a fucking third of the movie was them trying

1124
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:32.039
<v Speaker 4>to find some sniper. It's like, you are a bomb diffuser?

1125
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:33.960
<v Speaker 4>What are you doing? Stop it?

1126
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:36.119
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty fucked up movie, wasn't it. I'm trying to

1127
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:37.400
<v Speaker 3>remember who are the actors in that?

1128
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:39.519
<v Speaker 4>Uh your boy that played Hawkeye?

1129
00:54:40.639 --> 00:54:47.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh, uh, Jeremy sa guy, Yeah, yeah, at job.

1130
00:54:47.639 --> 00:54:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Did you hear about him like recently over the past year.

1131
00:54:50.599 --> 00:54:51.719
<v Speaker 4>Oh God, what did he do?

1132
00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Dude?

1133
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:54.920
<v Speaker 3>He got he was like up in the mountain somewhere

1134
00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:58.280
<v Speaker 3>and he was out like riding his snowmobile or some shit,

1135
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:02.199
<v Speaker 3>and fucking it got away from and and it fucking

1136
00:55:02.320 --> 00:55:06.280
<v Speaker 3>ran over his entire body. Bro like crushed his head,

1137
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.159
<v Speaker 3>like fucked his spine up. And I don't I think

1138
00:55:09.199 --> 00:55:11.400
<v Speaker 3>his spine was okay, but he like, dude, he couldn't

1139
00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:13.800
<v Speaker 3>walk for over a year and he was in rehab

1140
00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:16.000
<v Speaker 3>and all that shit. He's back to like full fledged,

1141
00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:17.920
<v Speaker 3>but his entire fucking body was broken.

1142
00:55:18.719 --> 00:55:19.880
<v Speaker 4>Fuck, I didn't hear about that.

1143
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:21.199
<v Speaker 2>Jeremy Renner, that's his name.

1144
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:21.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1145
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.199
<v Speaker 3>I love that guy, mainly because he's from Pittsburgh, So

1146
00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:25.760
<v Speaker 3>shout out to my Homi.

1147
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:27.840
<v Speaker 4>Now, I will say he did a great job with

1148
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:28.320
<v Speaker 4>the role.

1149
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:29.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, it's not like he had some sort of

1150
00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:33.440
<v Speaker 5>creative control over the script or the character any of

1151
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:37.480
<v Speaker 5>these things. But in the movie was it did a

1152
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:40.719
<v Speaker 5>good job of showing how fucked up the global War

1153
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 5>on Terror was. Like they were looking for bomb makers

1154
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:45.280
<v Speaker 5>at one point in time, and this kid that he

1155
00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:48.360
<v Speaker 5>was buying things from come to find out was like

1156
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:51.559
<v Speaker 5>his dad was helping fund the bomb maker in a way,

1157
00:55:51.599 --> 00:55:53.000
<v Speaker 5>and he had to go and do all these things

1158
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.599
<v Speaker 5>and try to save this kid. And it was then

1159
00:55:55.639 --> 00:55:57.679
<v Speaker 5>he had to fucking fight with this guy who had

1160
00:55:57.679 --> 00:56:00.320
<v Speaker 5>a suicide vest on with like thirty locks on on it,

1161
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:02.800
<v Speaker 5>and the timer was going down and like he was

1162
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:04.320
<v Speaker 5>trying to break him off, but he couldn't, so he

1163
00:56:04.360 --> 00:56:06.000
<v Speaker 5>had to run away. So, I mean, the guy wouldn't

1164
00:56:06.039 --> 00:56:09.039
<v Speaker 5>hurt anybody else except himself, and he didn't want to

1165
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:11.199
<v Speaker 5>be a suicide bomber. He was rigged up with a

1166
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:14.119
<v Speaker 5>metal vest on and this whole Yeah, I mean it

1167
00:56:14.119 --> 00:56:18.039
<v Speaker 5>it showed how dirty this war really was from the

1168
00:56:18.079 --> 00:56:19.920
<v Speaker 5>perspective of somebody boots on the ground.

1169
00:56:20.000 --> 00:56:20.840
<v Speaker 4>And that was cool.

1170
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:25.480
<v Speaker 5>But there was so many things they got wrong with

1171
00:56:25.639 --> 00:56:27.159
<v Speaker 5>the movie that it was silly.

1172
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:31.119
<v Speaker 3>Look at the movie poster, it says a near perfect movie.

1173
00:56:32.079 --> 00:56:37.599
<v Speaker 4>Wow, okay, that's that is one of the most opinions

1174
00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:39.199
<v Speaker 4>that someone has ever had.

1175
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:42.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I didn't know your boy Anthony mackew was in it.

1176
00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Old Captain America, Yeah he was.

1177
00:56:44.840 --> 00:56:48.000
<v Speaker 5>He fought with Jeremy a lot in the movie, trying

1178
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:49.960
<v Speaker 5>to tell him, well, you can't do it that way

1179
00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.920
<v Speaker 5>that they were trying to defuse a bomb in the

1180
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.159
<v Speaker 5>back of a car and the dude had his whole

1181
00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:57.599
<v Speaker 5>EOD suit on and he walks up and he sees

1182
00:56:57.639 --> 00:56:58.559
<v Speaker 5>it and he's like, fuck this.

1183
00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:00.280
<v Speaker 4>He goes and walks away and takes all his I

1184
00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.119
<v Speaker 4>was like, that's not protocol. You can't take it off.

1185
00:57:02.159 --> 00:57:04.679
<v Speaker 4>He's like, there's enough explosives in that car to where

1186
00:57:04.800 --> 00:57:07.199
<v Speaker 4>if it goes off, we're all meeting Jesus. Okay, if

1187
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:09.719
<v Speaker 4>we're gonna die today, I'm not dying. Uncomfortable. Fuck you.

1188
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:11.639
<v Speaker 4>And he went and defused the bomb and stuff.

1189
00:57:11.639 --> 00:57:14.280
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, he was His role was more of the

1190
00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:18.079
<v Speaker 5>street laced soldier follow orders and it's like, okay, please

1191
00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:18.880
<v Speaker 5>shut the fuck up.

1192
00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:20.440
<v Speaker 4>This is e O D. They're gonna do what they

1193
00:57:20.440 --> 00:57:21.960
<v Speaker 4>need to do and you're gonna fuck off with it.

1194
00:57:22.239 --> 00:57:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I love him as an actor though.

1195
00:57:23.480 --> 00:57:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Anthony Mackie if you remember he was in eight Mile

1196
00:57:26.960 --> 00:57:30.199
<v Speaker 3>you know that, and Eminem was like and Clarence's parents

1197
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:32.559
<v Speaker 3>have a real good marriage, and he was Clarence. Remember

1198
00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:37.039
<v Speaker 3>he was also in an episode of Black Mirror where

1199
00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:40.000
<v Speaker 3>him and his like best friend were uh it was

1200
00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:42.519
<v Speaker 3>like a virtual reality video game, right, and they were

1201
00:57:42.519 --> 00:57:44.920
<v Speaker 3>playing like this like a Teken or you know, a

1202
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:47.840
<v Speaker 3>street fighter kind of game. But it was them in

1203
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:50.280
<v Speaker 3>the fucking video game, or at least that's what their

1204
00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:52.559
<v Speaker 3>mind would have them believe, with the you know, video

1205
00:57:52.599 --> 00:57:54.840
<v Speaker 3>game rig that they had on their temple. And so

1206
00:57:54.880 --> 00:57:55.559
<v Speaker 3>they're in the door.

1207
00:57:55.719 --> 00:57:58.039
<v Speaker 4>They started fucking because they went to a different game.

1208
00:57:58.320 --> 00:57:58.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

1209
00:57:58.559 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 2>I seen clips of that one.

1210
00:57:59.800 --> 00:58:02.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Wow, I liked him in the movie We Are

1211
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:04.559
<v Speaker 4>Marshall though. I did a really good job with that

1212
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:05.079
<v Speaker 4>movie too.

1213
00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:06.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good movie.

1214
00:58:07.119 --> 00:58:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Nextly, after the hurt Locker, we have in twenty twelve

1215
00:58:10.840 --> 00:58:15.159
<v Speaker 3>zero Dark thirty, which was a CIA collaboration and it

1216
00:58:15.199 --> 00:58:19.840
<v Speaker 3>gave filmmakers access to classified information which was deemed controversial.

1217
00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:24.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, so that's the story of how Killery and Benghazi

1218
00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:29.920
<v Speaker 5>and that whole situation went down. The movie specifically got

1219
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:33.800
<v Speaker 5>certain things wrong, but they also had when they say

1220
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:38.079
<v Speaker 5>like classified information, they had some that they used for

1221
00:58:38.119 --> 00:58:38.599
<v Speaker 5>the movie.

1222
00:58:38.639 --> 00:58:41.519
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, they kind.

1223
00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:46.400
<v Speaker 5>Of left some really key details out because twenty twelve, right,

1224
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:49.880
<v Speaker 5>this is before Killery was running for presidential office, and

1225
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:53.400
<v Speaker 5>they couldn't say which politician just got out the phone

1226
00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:55.480
<v Speaker 5>and said to stand down, and they couldn't say where

1227
00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 5>they had gotten the command from and all these things.

1228
00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:01.679
<v Speaker 4>But like everybody watching the movie knows who they're referring to.

1229
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:03.239
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that's right.

1230
00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:05.119
<v Speaker 4>That was fucking mess.

1231
00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Had your boy Joel Egerton in it, which was in

1232
00:59:10.199 --> 00:59:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Warrior with Tom Hardy loved that movie, yep. And Chris

1233
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 3>Pratt was in it too.

1234
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:18.239
<v Speaker 5>He was he wasn't he was playing one of the seals.

1235
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:20.960
<v Speaker 5>So was uh your boy from the Office, old Jim.

1236
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:24.920
<v Speaker 5>Oh uh yeah, yeah, yeah, I forget that was the movie.

1237
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:25.119
<v Speaker 4>He was.

1238
00:59:25.159 --> 00:59:27.360
<v Speaker 5>He's been in a couple of military movies. Actually, I

1239
00:59:27.440 --> 00:59:29.719
<v Speaker 5>want to say, shit, was it dear?

1240
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.559
<v Speaker 4>No, No, it wasn't because there was two guys from

1241
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:33.960
<v Speaker 4>the Office that both played seals.

1242
00:59:33.960 --> 00:59:35.760
<v Speaker 5>It was him and the other guy that Pam was

1243
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:37.360
<v Speaker 5>trying to hook up with at one point in time,

1244
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:39.159
<v Speaker 5>and they both were playing seals in a movie.

1245
00:59:39.199 --> 00:59:39.960
<v Speaker 4>But that wasn't it.

1246
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:43.440
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, I've seen The Office so many fucking times

1247
00:59:43.480 --> 00:59:45.719
<v Speaker 3>I can't watch another episode of it, Like I just

1248
00:59:46.039 --> 00:59:49.599
<v Speaker 3>can't do it. It's it's too much. I've seen every episode.

1249
00:59:49.639 --> 00:59:52.559
<v Speaker 3>I could damn near like say every word in every

1250
00:59:52.559 --> 00:59:56.599
<v Speaker 3>single episode, Like that's just something that fucking it sucks.

1251
00:59:56.880 --> 01:00:00.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can't get past it. It's so uh so

1252
01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:04.639
<v Speaker 2>fucking there's just something that I can't stand about The Office.

1253
01:00:04.679 --> 01:00:06.159
<v Speaker 2>I loved it for the longest time, but it just

1254
01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:06.639
<v Speaker 2>wore out.

1255
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:10.199
<v Speaker 5>You understand that you could watch like an hour compilation

1256
01:00:10.320 --> 01:00:14.239
<v Speaker 5>of every funny moment from the Office from ten seasons

1257
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:17.199
<v Speaker 5>or whatever. It could be compressed down to one hour

1258
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:20.639
<v Speaker 5>and without having any other context, you could laugh at

1259
01:00:20.639 --> 01:00:21.920
<v Speaker 5>that hour and feel.

1260
01:00:21.639 --> 01:00:23.639
<v Speaker 4>Fine with it. You didn't need to watch all the

1261
01:00:23.639 --> 01:00:24.920
<v Speaker 4>seasons to get the jokes.

1262
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:25.800
<v Speaker 7>It was.

1263
01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I've never understood the hype about the Office.

1264
01:00:30.119 --> 01:00:32.360
<v Speaker 4>It's you know, it's just not my jam whatever.

1265
01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'd be like at that.

1266
01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:38.480
<v Speaker 3>So from zero Dark Party, we go to twenty thirteen

1267
01:00:38.639 --> 01:00:40.280
<v Speaker 3>with Captain Phillips.

1268
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Wh o interesting that motherfucker.

1269
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:44.199
<v Speaker 4>That's another story.

1270
01:00:44.239 --> 01:00:46.440
<v Speaker 5>The Seals came in and they saved his life, and yeah,

1271
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:51.079
<v Speaker 5>they had DoD collaboration with that scene. Never mind the

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01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:53.679
<v Speaker 5>cap'n Phillips was a piece of shit who knew that

1273
01:00:53.719 --> 01:00:56.239
<v Speaker 5>he was bringing his ship into dangerous waters that were

1274
01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:59.440
<v Speaker 5>pirate filled, but he made the decision to go that

1275
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:02.239
<v Speaker 5>way rather than the safer route and put his whole

1276
01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:05.360
<v Speaker 5>crew and the cargo in Jeopardy for his own legacy,

1277
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.679
<v Speaker 5>and then again, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

1278
01:01:09.039 --> 01:01:11.519
<v Speaker 5>Then they had to send seals to save his fucking ass,

1279
01:01:11.960 --> 01:01:14.000
<v Speaker 5>and then he gets brought back home and blasted like

1280
01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:17.360
<v Speaker 5>he's some sort of hero. He's so brave. No, he

1281
01:01:17.440 --> 01:01:21.000
<v Speaker 5>almost died because he was that stupid. But sure, let's

1282
01:01:21.079 --> 01:01:22.280
<v Speaker 5>let's make him out to be something.

1283
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Well.

1284
01:01:23.519 --> 01:01:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Isaac Cappy because you know, the guy

1285
01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:29.960
<v Speaker 3>who killed him just so happened to be one of

1286
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:31.800
<v Speaker 3>the main characters in this movie, or the main character

1287
01:01:31.840 --> 01:01:32.760
<v Speaker 3>in the movie, Tom Hanks.

1288
01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:35.199
<v Speaker 2>So Tom Hanks, and and.

1289
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:37.760
<v Speaker 3>He's another one that you'll see comes up in a

1290
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:41.519
<v Speaker 3>lot of military type of movies that were pushing propaganda.

1291
01:01:41.559 --> 01:01:44.880
<v Speaker 3>That's why I personally nobody should trust Tom Hanks. Like

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01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:48.039
<v Speaker 3>if you we we did an episode way back, I

1293
01:01:48.079 --> 01:01:52.360
<v Speaker 3>think with Bo Diggles on on Tom Hanks and Isaac

1294
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Cappy and all that stuff. Shout out Bo Diggles if

1295
01:01:54.960 --> 01:01:56.559
<v Speaker 3>you're still out there, Bud, it's been a minute.

1296
01:01:57.159 --> 01:01:58.559
<v Speaker 4>I was on Spotify earlier.

1297
01:01:58.719 --> 01:02:02.519
<v Speaker 5>His show popped up underneath ours for something and I

1298
01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:02.960
<v Speaker 5>was like.

1299
01:02:03.159 --> 01:02:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Is he back anti slaves back? Anti slave question?

1300
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.199
<v Speaker 4>Everything it was a it was a post from like

1301
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:10.079
<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty three.

1302
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:13.039
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how and why that popped up on

1303
01:02:13.119 --> 01:02:16.639
<v Speaker 5>my feet or on my my Spotify like recommendations today,

1304
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:19.440
<v Speaker 5>but I was like, damn, I miss old Bo Diggles.

1305
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Love you Bo if you're out there, Bud.

1306
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:26.000
<v Speaker 3>So Yeah, Tom Hanks not a fan and nobody should

1307
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:31.360
<v Speaker 3>be old geppetto himself as we like to say. So Yeah,

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01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Captain Phillips. And now we go to two thousand and

1309
01:02:34.840 --> 01:02:38.760
<v Speaker 3>one with Pearl Harbor. It received massive do OD support,

1310
01:02:38.840 --> 01:02:43.199
<v Speaker 3>focus more on romance, but showcased us bravery.

1311
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm trying to remember it was it was it

1312
01:02:46.280 --> 01:02:48.440
<v Speaker 5>summer of twenty of two thousand and one where that

1313
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:50.880
<v Speaker 5>came out or was it the fall after nine to eleven?

1314
01:02:51.239 --> 01:02:53.559
<v Speaker 5>I mean they were shooting it earlier then, but I'm

1315
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:54.639
<v Speaker 5>just curious on that one.

1316
01:02:54.679 --> 01:02:55.239
<v Speaker 4>Let's see.

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01:02:56.119 --> 01:02:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm checking it out here. So Pearl Harbor really

1318
01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:04.239
<v Speaker 3>least dates dun Dundum. It just says two thousand and one.

1319
01:03:04.280 --> 01:03:04.639
<v Speaker 2>I can't.

1320
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:06.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh, here we Go came out May twenty first of

1321
01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:08.480
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one, so before nine eleven.

1322
01:03:09.079 --> 01:03:12.280
<v Speaker 5>Uh okay, a few months beforehand. So everybody was already.

1323
01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:14.280
<v Speaker 4>Feeling uber patriotic and all of that, and I wish

1324
01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:16.119
<v Speaker 4>they would have kept the love story out of it.

1325
01:03:16.239 --> 01:03:19.679
<v Speaker 4>That wasn't necessary, but okay, whatever.

1326
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:23.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, next one we have is another movie from two

1327
01:03:23.400 --> 01:03:25.719
<v Speaker 3>thousand and one that I'd be interesting to see when

1328
01:03:25.760 --> 01:03:26.519
<v Speaker 3>this one came out.

1329
01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Behind Enemy Lines.

1330
01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.960
<v Speaker 5>Dude, one of my favorites. Also based on the true story.

1331
01:03:32.039 --> 01:03:37.199
<v Speaker 5>Owen Wilson actually plays a real, like serious role in

1332
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:41.159
<v Speaker 5>all of this, and it showcased, at least in some way,

1333
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.480
<v Speaker 5>shape or form, what was going down in Bosnia, right

1334
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:47.760
<v Speaker 5>with the Albanian genocide that was going on there, and

1335
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:50.280
<v Speaker 5>the story of the pilot that flew over and got

1336
01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:52.679
<v Speaker 5>the pictures that were being taken of the mass graves

1337
01:03:52.679 --> 01:03:55.119
<v Speaker 5>and everything like that that got shot down then made

1338
01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:55.920
<v Speaker 5>it back and all of that.

1339
01:03:56.519 --> 01:03:56.719
<v Speaker 4>Yo.

1340
01:03:57.239 --> 01:04:00.000
<v Speaker 3>Wild fucking movie, dude. Owen Wilson's one of my favorite

1341
01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.000
<v Speaker 3>actors of all time. I fucking love that guy.

1342
01:04:02.239 --> 01:04:04.159
<v Speaker 4>I would hope he's not on a list, that's one.

1343
01:04:04.199 --> 01:04:06.519
<v Speaker 3>I would be absolutely heartbroken if he was on the

1344
01:04:06.519 --> 01:04:07.239
<v Speaker 3>Epstein list.

1345
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:07.559
<v Speaker 7>Dude.

1346
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.119
<v Speaker 4>You know, I hope he's not. You know him and

1347
01:04:11.199 --> 01:04:14.199
<v Speaker 4>Vince Vaughn, Can we just have him? Can we? Can?

1348
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:16.559
<v Speaker 5>They just be the people that they are and they're

1349
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:18.639
<v Speaker 5>not associated with the shit I hear.

1350
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Vince Vaughan is exactly like you'd expect them to be.

1351
01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:22.280
<v Speaker 2>He uh.

1352
01:04:22.360 --> 01:04:25.039
<v Speaker 5>He did an appearance on Tires and according to like

1353
01:04:25.079 --> 01:04:26.880
<v Speaker 5>Shane Gillison all these other guys that were on set

1354
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:30.280
<v Speaker 5>with him that day, he's like exactly who you're hoping

1355
01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:32.519
<v Speaker 5>he is, Like that, that is him, the guy he's

1356
01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:36.079
<v Speaker 5>playing that character, that's him in real life. He's hilarious

1357
01:04:36.119 --> 01:04:39.599
<v Speaker 5>and he's just NonStop and it's like good.

1358
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

1359
01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:43.519
<v Speaker 3>He was also in what was that wrestling movie Fighting

1360
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:44.119
<v Speaker 3>with My Family?

1361
01:04:44.199 --> 01:04:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Have you ever seen that? No?

1362
01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:46.079
<v Speaker 4>I have not.

1363
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.000
<v Speaker 2>The Rock was in it a little bit, but but yeah.

1364
01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Vince Vaughan, he was like one of the coach, like

1365
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:53.440
<v Speaker 3>one of the wrestling coaches to try and see if

1366
01:04:53.440 --> 01:04:54.880
<v Speaker 3>you can make it to the big leagues and the

1367
01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:58.639
<v Speaker 3>WWE and stuff like that. But yeah, Vince Vaughan, dude,

1368
01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:02.599
<v Speaker 3>that'd be a shame. But yeah, it's actually interesting behind

1369
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:06.880
<v Speaker 3>enemy Lines. The release date was originally gonna be January eighteenth,

1370
01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:10.079
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and two, but it was moved to November

1371
01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:14.119
<v Speaker 3>thirtieth of two thousand and one to probably try and

1372
01:05:14.239 --> 01:05:16.159
<v Speaker 3>be a little bit patriotic during those times, right, I

1373
01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:18.039
<v Speaker 3>mean you're talking about two months after nine to eleven.

1374
01:05:18.679 --> 01:05:20.519
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, they pushed it a little closer to try to

1375
01:05:20.519 --> 01:05:23.039
<v Speaker 5>get more recruitment up because we had to go to war.

1376
01:05:23.480 --> 01:05:24.760
<v Speaker 4>We were just attacked and all.

1377
01:05:24.760 --> 01:05:29.440
<v Speaker 5>That, and uh, we needed people in them recruiting offices.

1378
01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:31.280
<v Speaker 5>So I could see them pushing that up a little

1379
01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:34.119
<v Speaker 5>bit for sure. And again, that's one of my favorite

1380
01:05:34.159 --> 01:05:37.360
<v Speaker 5>movies honestly as far as like war movies quote unquote goes,

1381
01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:39.800
<v Speaker 5>it's fucking brilliantly done.

1382
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:41.559
<v Speaker 3>Oh now we're going to get to one of my

1383
01:05:41.719 --> 01:05:44.159
<v Speaker 3>favorite movies of all time, at least as far as

1384
01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:46.360
<v Speaker 3>military style movies, is The Guardian.

1385
01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:48.320
<v Speaker 2>I fucking loved that movie, dude.

1386
01:05:48.719 --> 01:05:50.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but I'm a big Ashton Kutcher fan until I

1387
01:05:50.840 --> 01:05:52.639
<v Speaker 3>found out that he was also a piece of shit.

1388
01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:57.599
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. That was one of the coastguards only fucking recruitment

1389
01:05:57.639 --> 01:06:00.400
<v Speaker 4>movies that they've ever had come out. Really good. It

1390
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:00.800
<v Speaker 4>got me.

1391
01:06:01.079 --> 01:06:02.719
<v Speaker 2>It got me thinking about going to the Coast Guard

1392
01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:03.239
<v Speaker 2>at the time.

1393
01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:04.880
<v Speaker 4>Really Yeah.

1394
01:06:04.960 --> 01:06:09.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, dude, I know that between the military branches, we

1395
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:13.119
<v Speaker 5>all shit on the Coast Guard. Okay, fine, I will

1396
01:06:13.239 --> 01:06:17.519
<v Speaker 5>not talk shit on their rescue swimmers or their swim

1397
01:06:18.039 --> 01:06:20.000
<v Speaker 5>qualls that they do and shit like that, Like, yes,

1398
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:22.719
<v Speaker 5>I will joke that they are a part of Homeland

1399
01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:25.480
<v Speaker 5>Security and not Department of Defense, and I will joke

1400
01:06:25.519 --> 01:06:27.880
<v Speaker 5>about all of these things. But like big Dog, they're

1401
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:30.960
<v Speaker 5>talking about these dudes they're jumping off in Alaska to

1402
01:06:31.039 --> 01:06:33.320
<v Speaker 5>save these crab fishermen and like, yeah, if you don't

1403
01:06:33.320 --> 01:06:35.320
<v Speaker 5>get out of the water in six minutes, you're dead.

1404
01:06:35.639 --> 01:06:38.719
<v Speaker 5>And they are willingly jumping into this, Like big Dog,

1405
01:06:38.840 --> 01:06:40.840
<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, do you need a wheelbarrow to carry those

1406
01:06:40.880 --> 01:06:43.400
<v Speaker 5>fucking stones that you got attached to you, dick?

1407
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:46.280
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, I got you. Yeah, it's some sketchy ass territory

1408
01:06:46.280 --> 01:06:48.239
<v Speaker 3>they got to jump in. I mean, because the fucking

1409
01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.559
<v Speaker 3>waves are crazy. You're jumping into freezing cold water.

1410
01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:52.880
<v Speaker 4>Fuck all that.

1411
01:06:53.480 --> 01:06:56.920
<v Speaker 3>But you know what's interesting though, So my first time

1412
01:06:57.119 --> 01:06:59.760
<v Speaker 3>ever going to work offshore, I was working for this

1413
01:06:59.760 --> 01:07:04.880
<v Speaker 3>com he called Enterprise Enterprise Marine, and and so I

1414
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:06.920
<v Speaker 3>worked there and I used to love it. I just

1415
01:07:06.960 --> 01:07:10.280
<v Speaker 3>hated being away because my daughter was just born, and

1416
01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:12.159
<v Speaker 3>so you're out there two weeks at a time than

1417
01:07:12.159 --> 01:07:14.639
<v Speaker 3>you're home for a week, right, And I love the

1418
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:16.599
<v Speaker 3>actual work though, Like I love being out in the

1419
01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:18.400
<v Speaker 3>water and everything, but they put us through a lot

1420
01:07:18.440 --> 01:07:20.760
<v Speaker 3>of these like training exercises and dude, it was.

1421
01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:22.639
<v Speaker 4>Like to get in the helicopter and flip underwater.

1422
01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:25.920
<v Speaker 3>No, there was no helicopter, but it was like almost

1423
01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:28.119
<v Speaker 3>like steady the Art kind of training shit though, Like

1424
01:07:28.159 --> 01:07:31.039
<v Speaker 3>we had to go to like this this Olympic pool

1425
01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:34.360
<v Speaker 3>and we had to learn all these different like survival

1426
01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:37.400
<v Speaker 3>techniques and training operations and shit like that. Then we

1427
01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:39.679
<v Speaker 3>had to learn how to get into that little boat.

1428
01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:42.880
<v Speaker 3>It's almost like a little submarine kind of looking thing.

1429
01:07:43.519 --> 01:07:45.239
<v Speaker 4>I know it. It's an orange one that they got

1430
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:46.039
<v Speaker 4>Captain Phillipson.

1431
01:07:46.119 --> 01:07:48.480
<v Speaker 5>I forget what they're actually called, but them bitches there

1432
01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:49.480
<v Speaker 5>you want to talk about make.

1433
01:07:49.440 --> 01:07:52.000
<v Speaker 3>You see sick, dude, those things are fucking sweet though.

1434
01:07:52.119 --> 01:07:53.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the only time I ever got into it

1435
01:07:54.000 --> 01:07:56.360
<v Speaker 3>was literally in like an Olympic pool, so it wasn't

1436
01:07:56.400 --> 01:07:59.159
<v Speaker 3>in like a real situation. But yeah, the training. I

1437
01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:01.199
<v Speaker 3>used to love that training. Shit, dude, that was so

1438
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:01.760
<v Speaker 3>much fun.

1439
01:08:02.440 --> 01:08:04.199
<v Speaker 4>You would have liked the military then, because there was

1440
01:08:04.239 --> 01:08:06.559
<v Speaker 4>a lot of crazy training for things like that.

1441
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:07.159
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying.

1442
01:08:07.199 --> 01:08:10.320
<v Speaker 3>That's why probably why I thought the costar would have

1443
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:12.440
<v Speaker 3>been the place for me, but never ended up doing it.

1444
01:08:13.000 --> 01:08:15.239
<v Speaker 3>The last movie that we're going to talk about into well,

1445
01:08:15.400 --> 01:08:16.680
<v Speaker 3>one of the last movies that we're going to talk

1446
01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:20.119
<v Speaker 3>about as far as the military style movies, is clear

1447
01:08:20.159 --> 01:08:23.000
<v Speaker 3>In Present Danger that came out in nineteen ninety four.

1448
01:08:23.479 --> 01:08:27.680
<v Speaker 3>It says the US military provided aircraft and hardware, amongst

1449
01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:30.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, diddling the script a little bit as well.

1450
01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:33.359
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I remember the movie.

1451
01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Well, all right, so now we're going to go into

1452
01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:42.680
<v Speaker 3>CIA influenced or influencer supported films via the CIA. Number

1453
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:44.720
<v Speaker 3>one is going to be a movie came out in

1454
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:46.279
<v Speaker 3>twenty twelve called Argo.

1455
01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:50.199
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I never saw it, but I remember hearing about it.

1456
01:08:50.199 --> 01:08:51.920
<v Speaker 3>It's yeah, I never saw it either. I think that

1457
01:08:52.039 --> 01:08:53.479
<v Speaker 3>was a affleck in that movie.

1458
01:08:54.119 --> 01:08:54.880
<v Speaker 4>Maybe an affleck.

1459
01:08:55.640 --> 01:08:58.359
<v Speaker 3>But it says the CIA consulted on the film and

1460
01:08:58.479 --> 01:09:02.239
<v Speaker 3>helped promote a favorable portrayal of the agency's rule in

1461
01:09:02.319 --> 01:09:04.000
<v Speaker 3>the Iran hostage crisis.

1462
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:07.079
<v Speaker 4>Ah, yes, okay, I never saw it.

1463
01:09:07.119 --> 01:09:09.479
<v Speaker 5>I remember seeing commercials and thought that I really did

1464
01:09:09.520 --> 01:09:10.239
<v Speaker 5>want to see it.

1465
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:12.399
<v Speaker 4>Never got around to it, but yeah.

1466
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Next movie we got came out in two thousand and

1467
01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:15.960
<v Speaker 3>seven called Charlie Wilson's War.

1468
01:09:16.079 --> 01:09:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen that one?

1469
01:09:17.640 --> 01:09:18.760
<v Speaker 4>I believe I have?

1470
01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:24.159
<v Speaker 3>It says it indirectly supported. It was indirectly supported through

1471
01:09:24.199 --> 01:09:28.119
<v Speaker 3>the CIA historians and PR channels. We're gonna do a

1472
01:09:28.119 --> 01:09:30.000
<v Speaker 3>little bit more into that one here in a minute.

1473
01:09:30.600 --> 01:09:32.279
<v Speaker 3>The next one came out in two thousand and three,

1474
01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:36.279
<v Speaker 3>called The Recruit. Yeah, obviously it's gonna be a recruiting

1475
01:09:36.319 --> 01:09:37.239
<v Speaker 3>fucking style.

1476
01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:40.439
<v Speaker 5>Movie, right, Well, it's basically about an agent in his

1477
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:42.399
<v Speaker 5>like early days of the agency.

1478
01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:43.159
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

1479
01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Created with CIA involvement and used as a recruiting tool. Obviously,

1480
01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:49.600
<v Speaker 3>as the name says, the next one might surprise you

1481
01:09:49.640 --> 01:09:51.800
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, Meet the.

1482
01:09:51.800 --> 01:09:56.199
<v Speaker 4>Parents because of Robert de Niro's.

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01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:59.479
<v Speaker 3>Role yep, yep, So the script was revised with CIA

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01:09:59.560 --> 01:10:01.640
<v Speaker 3>feedback for character accuracy.

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01:10:03.039 --> 01:10:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:06.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, okay, that's.

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01:10:07.880 --> 01:10:08.199
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's such a good movie because.

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01:10:10.920 --> 01:10:13.159
<v Speaker 5>Of Robert de Niro, who is a piece of shit

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01:10:13.239 --> 01:10:14.720
<v Speaker 5>in real life, by the fuck him.

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01:10:14.840 --> 01:10:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's sad, but he's.

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01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:20.760
<v Speaker 5>Because he played a former CIA spook. They actually got

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01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:24.399
<v Speaker 5>CIA liaisons to like make sure he had character accuracy.

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01:10:24.479 --> 01:10:25.800
<v Speaker 4>That's pretty fucking hilarious.

1495
01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:26.920
<v Speaker 2>It's actually pretty cool.

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01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:30.000
<v Speaker 4>But does that mean that Ben Stiller has been gotten.

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01:10:30.840 --> 01:10:31.720
<v Speaker 4>Is he compromised?

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01:10:31.800 --> 01:10:33.600
<v Speaker 3>I hope not, because that's another one that I'll be

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01:10:33.640 --> 01:10:35.720
<v Speaker 3>really sad if if he got got as well.

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01:10:36.479 --> 01:10:39.439
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I could believe it, but I wouldn't be happy

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01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:39.800
<v Speaker 5>about it.

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01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:43.239
<v Speaker 3>He's in the new Happy Gilmore. He's doing the same

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01:10:43.319 --> 01:10:44.920
<v Speaker 3>character from Happy Gilmore.

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01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.600
<v Speaker 4>The same kid. What we're running the nursing home?

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01:10:47.760 --> 01:10:49.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what the fuck?

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01:10:49.640 --> 01:10:50.000
<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.479
<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, you're in my world now, Grandma.

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01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:55.039
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, that's hilarious.

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01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:58.479
<v Speaker 3>Your fingers hurt, well, your back's gonna gonna hurt.

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01:10:58.600 --> 01:11:00.720
<v Speaker 2>You just pulled Lonskin escape duty.

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01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:02.840
<v Speaker 4>He will go to sleep or I will put you

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01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:03.319
<v Speaker 4>to sleep.

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01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:06.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. He plays that fucking asshole so well.

1514
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:09.159
<v Speaker 3>Remember he was in that fat Camp movie too.

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01:11:09.560 --> 01:11:12.520
<v Speaker 5>Heavyweights dude. That's his two roles. He's got two roles.

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01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:15.640
<v Speaker 5>He's got the super sporadic, overly jewish dude. Or he's

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01:11:15.680 --> 01:11:18.920
<v Speaker 5>got the guy from Dodgeball and Heavyweights, the white goodman

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01:11:19.279 --> 01:11:19.960
<v Speaker 5>kind of character.

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01:11:20.720 --> 01:11:22.840
<v Speaker 4>That's just two. That's his two characters.

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01:11:22.840 --> 01:11:24.840
<v Speaker 3>He's so good at it though, like the way he

1521
01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:26.600
<v Speaker 3>just fucking loses it.

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01:11:26.279 --> 01:11:27.600
<v Speaker 2>It gets me every time.

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01:11:28.239 --> 01:11:29.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh and Zulander, I can't forget.

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01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:32.199
<v Speaker 5>He does have the Zuelander character that he does and

1525
01:11:32.279 --> 01:11:33.800
<v Speaker 5>his dad was his agent in it.

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01:11:33.800 --> 01:11:36.279
<v Speaker 2>That's pretty fucking hilarious. You know, I've never seen that movie.

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01:11:37.119 --> 01:11:37.520
<v Speaker 4>Really.

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01:11:37.720 --> 01:11:39.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not into that kind of that kind.

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01:11:39.399 --> 01:11:42.399
<v Speaker 3>Of shit, like those like those movies that you kind

1530
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:44.359
<v Speaker 3>of have to be dialed in to think that they're funny,

1531
01:11:44.399 --> 01:11:46.760
<v Speaker 3>Like I didn't find Napoleon Dynamite funny at all. Like

1532
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:48.720
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was one of the dumbest movies ever made.

1533
01:11:49.079 --> 01:11:50.319
<v Speaker 4>It was that was the point of it.

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01:11:50.399 --> 01:11:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I fell asleep in that fucking movie.

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01:11:52.119 --> 01:11:54.319
<v Speaker 5>Wait wait, wait, tme out talme about as far as

1536
01:11:54.359 --> 01:11:56.880
<v Speaker 5>like dumb movies that like Awestoin Powers.

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01:11:57.359 --> 01:11:59.039
<v Speaker 3>No, I mean I liked Austin Powers, but I was

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01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:03.239
<v Speaker 3>a kid whenever it came out fair. But yeah, Napoleon

1539
01:12:03.239 --> 01:12:05.359
<v Speaker 3>donomond I was like, this is one of the fucking

1540
01:12:05.560 --> 01:12:07.840
<v Speaker 3>dumbest things I've ever seen in my life. And I

1541
01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:11.079
<v Speaker 3>honestly I thought that that movie you just brought up,

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01:12:11.119 --> 01:12:13.640
<v Speaker 3>what was it, Zulander, I thought that that was gonna

1543
01:12:13.640 --> 01:12:15.560
<v Speaker 3>be like that same It's almost like that Blades of

1544
01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:17.640
<v Speaker 3>Fury bullshit, Like I wasn't gonna watch.

1545
01:12:17.520 --> 01:12:19.119
<v Speaker 4>I never saw Blades of Glory.

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01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:22.560
<v Speaker 3>Dude, I'm over Will Ferrell, Like, I'm like the way

1547
01:12:22.600 --> 01:12:25.159
<v Speaker 3>that you're over Adam Sandler, I'm over Will Ferrell.

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01:12:25.760 --> 01:12:28.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh man, Okay, I get it. I get it now

1549
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:30.479
<v Speaker 5>that you put it into that kind of context. But

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01:12:30.479 --> 01:12:32.960
<v Speaker 5>at least Will Ferrell can play a couple of different roles.

1551
01:12:34.520 --> 01:12:37.640
<v Speaker 5>Adam Sandler's got like three that he ever does ever

1552
01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:40.680
<v Speaker 5>Salem ben Stiller, He's only got two.

1553
01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Eh, whatever, if you're good at it.

1554
01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:44.520
<v Speaker 5>But he hasn't come out with like twenty movies in

1555
01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:46.680
<v Speaker 5>the past five years to where I'm over his shit,

1556
01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:46.960
<v Speaker 5>you know.

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01:12:46.960 --> 01:12:48.479
<v Speaker 4>I mean, at least he spaces them out a bit.

1558
01:12:48.840 --> 01:12:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But I mean Netflix like signed him for like

1559
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:53.720
<v Speaker 3>a five year deal or something like that to make

1560
01:12:53.720 --> 01:12:54.399
<v Speaker 3>all those movies.

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01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:55.800
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, yes they did.

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01:12:56.119 --> 01:12:57.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean, hey, I'm not knocking him. He made his

1563
01:12:57.920 --> 01:13:00.119
<v Speaker 5>money and good for him for that. But like, ye,

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01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:03.239
<v Speaker 5>at least as a person I've heard Adam Sandler's like amazing.

1565
01:13:03.479 --> 01:13:06.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, what was the that.

1566
01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:10.159
<v Speaker 3>Shit that Benghazi movie we were talking about earlier? Was

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01:13:10.159 --> 01:13:11.079
<v Speaker 3>that Active Valor?

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01:13:11.720 --> 01:13:13.880
<v Speaker 4>No? No, no, that was a shit.

1569
01:13:13.920 --> 01:13:17.159
<v Speaker 5>We were just talking about it. Blackhawk, zero Garlander, not

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01:13:17.399 --> 01:13:19.239
<v Speaker 5>zero Doarc thirty. It was a hurt locker.

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01:13:20.000 --> 01:13:20.079
<v Speaker 7>No.

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01:13:21.840 --> 01:13:26.479
<v Speaker 3>Oh, damn, we were just talking about that. So yeah, anyway,

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01:13:26.520 --> 01:13:30.199
<v Speaker 3>there's another Benghazi movie called thirteen Hours that came out

1574
01:13:30.199 --> 01:13:34.399
<v Speaker 3>in twenty sixteen. Thirteen Hours it's called The Secret Soldiers

1575
01:13:34.439 --> 01:13:39.560
<v Speaker 3>of Benghazi that had CIA cooperation, although parts remained contested.

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01:13:39.760 --> 01:13:42.439
<v Speaker 4>It says, yeah, that's the movie we were talking about,

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01:13:42.439 --> 01:13:44.600
<v Speaker 4>thirteen Hours, and uh.

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01:13:44.319 --> 01:13:46.439
<v Speaker 2>No, there was another one that we because I didn't

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01:13:46.439 --> 01:13:49.039
<v Speaker 2>mention that one earlier. There was another.

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01:13:49.279 --> 01:13:52.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, because it was I can't remember which one

1581
01:13:52.399 --> 01:13:55.199
<v Speaker 3>it was, but anyway, yeah, thirteen Hours, that's another one

1582
01:13:55.439 --> 01:13:59.199
<v Speaker 3>that was a CIA influenced kind of film there. Nextly,

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01:13:59.279 --> 01:14:01.640
<v Speaker 3>we have a couple of TV shows which are going

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01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:06.119
<v Speaker 3>to be very obvious TV shows with US government involvement.

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01:14:06.920 --> 01:14:12.840
<v Speaker 3>That would be NCIS, JAG, Hawaii five O twenty four, Homeland,

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01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:17.640
<v Speaker 3>and Jack Ryan all received military or intelligence community support,

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01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:21.600
<v Speaker 3>as they say, along with the Agency, which was produced

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01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:25.840
<v Speaker 3>in direct collaboration with the CIA. And then a movie

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01:14:26.000 --> 01:14:29.079
<v Speaker 3>or a show called Alias. It says it received consultation

1590
01:14:29.239 --> 01:14:32.800
<v Speaker 3>from intelligence professionals. So anytime you're getting any kind of

1591
01:14:32.920 --> 01:14:37.319
<v Speaker 3>consultation or collaboration with military, you know that it's going

1592
01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:39.079
<v Speaker 3>to be funded and you know that the script is

1593
01:14:39.119 --> 01:14:43.880
<v Speaker 3>going to be tweaked at the bare minimum. The Department

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01:14:43.920 --> 01:14:47.600
<v Speaker 3>of Defense Entertainment Media Office is what it's called. How

1595
01:14:47.600 --> 01:14:52.840
<v Speaker 3>about that about the DoD Entertainment Office. It reviews scripts

1596
01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:56.520
<v Speaker 3>and only supports productions that portray the US military in

1597
01:14:56.600 --> 01:15:00.319
<v Speaker 3>a positive light. If filmmakers agree to script change, they

1598
01:15:00.399 --> 01:15:05.199
<v Speaker 3>gain access to gear, locations, personnel, and sometimes funding or grants.

1599
01:15:05.680 --> 01:15:08.840
<v Speaker 3>So the CIA has its own Office of Public Affairs,

1600
01:15:08.840 --> 01:15:13.199
<v Speaker 3>which liais is with Hollywood for PR and recruitment purposes.

1601
01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:16.359
<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of what we're talking about here.

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01:15:18.000 --> 01:15:18.439
<v Speaker 4>Here we go.

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01:15:18.479 --> 01:15:21.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So as far as like a FOYA document, so

1604
01:15:21.640 --> 01:15:27.159
<v Speaker 3>freedom of information documents, over eighteen hundred films and TV

1605
01:15:27.239 --> 01:15:31.159
<v Speaker 3>shows have been influenced by the Pentagon or CIA directly.

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01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Eighteen hundred, dude.

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01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:36.560
<v Speaker 4>I could believe that. Well, when you say that, now

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01:15:36.640 --> 01:15:40.159
<v Speaker 4>we're talking about in CIS and JAG. How many episodes

1609
01:15:40.159 --> 01:15:42.880
<v Speaker 4>do these shows have? You know what I'm saying?

1610
01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:43.560
<v Speaker 2>In points?

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01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:46.000
<v Speaker 5>So there's gonna be some sort of like a flux

1612
01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:48.920
<v Speaker 5>there or are they calling all of in CIS one

1613
01:15:48.960 --> 01:15:51.239
<v Speaker 5>of the eighteen hundred or all of the JAG you

1614
01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:51.640
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean?

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01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm I don't know.

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01:15:53.000 --> 01:15:55.680
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't specify, but I kind of thought that it

1617
01:15:55.760 --> 01:15:57.119
<v Speaker 3>was talking about the show as a whole.

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01:15:57.159 --> 01:16:00.239
<v Speaker 2>But eighteen hundred that's a lot, so I don't know.

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01:16:00.479 --> 01:16:02.640
<v Speaker 4>It might might be talking about if we're talking about

1620
01:16:02.640 --> 01:16:05.560
<v Speaker 4>movies from way back in the silent film era, Birth

1621
01:16:05.600 --> 01:16:08.840
<v Speaker 4>of a Nation to now, like it's very possible, they

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01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:13.279
<v Speaker 4>do mean eighteen hundred, like proper movies and television shows

1623
01:16:13.359 --> 01:16:15.600
<v Speaker 4>in totality, Like it's very possible.

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01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.680
<v Speaker 3>There was also a book that was written by Tom

1625
01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:23.159
<v Speaker 3>Secker and Matthew Alford that dives deep into, you know,

1626
01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:28.399
<v Speaker 3>all the government funded kind of cinema called National Security

1627
01:16:28.840 --> 01:16:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Cinema for anybody that wants a deeper perspective in on

1628
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:32.159
<v Speaker 3>a lot of this.

1629
01:16:33.479 --> 01:16:35.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, go check that one out.

1630
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:40.880
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and it actually there are official DoD slash

1631
01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:46.159
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood cooperation logs, and some of it was actually leaked

1632
01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:50.279
<v Speaker 3>via emails through Sony hacks and a bunch of other

1633
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:54.880
<v Speaker 3>like big corporate hacks that revealed backroom deals with government agencies.

1634
01:16:55.119 --> 01:16:58.079
<v Speaker 3>So even the ones that weren't on the books, it

1635
01:16:58.119 --> 01:17:01.479
<v Speaker 3>was still like these these leaked emails showed even more.

1636
01:17:02.319 --> 01:17:05.680
<v Speaker 3>You say it was national security what national security cinema?

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01:17:06.960 --> 01:17:10.760
<v Speaker 4>Cinema Okay, I'm looking this up now, I've never heard

1638
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:12.600
<v Speaker 4>of that, but okay, share the screen.

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01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:13.920
<v Speaker 2>You see a picture of that bad boy.

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01:17:14.880 --> 01:17:18.000
<v Speaker 5>Uh well, actually, I have an interview with Matthew Alford

1641
01:17:18.119 --> 01:17:20.880
<v Speaker 5>on National Security Cinema. It's two minutes and forty three

1642
01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:22.760
<v Speaker 5>seconds long. If you want to watch this, let's do it,

1643
01:17:23.479 --> 01:17:27.119
<v Speaker 5>all right, go ahead and let me share that screen again.

1644
01:17:27.279 --> 01:17:28.760
<v Speaker 5>All the good cult members will want to see what

1645
01:17:28.800 --> 01:17:30.720
<v Speaker 5>we were talking about rather than just hear about it.

1646
01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:33.039
<v Speaker 4>Come check us out on Patreon.

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01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:36.800
<v Speaker 8>First, let's go for this turn of the twenty first century.

1648
01:17:36.880 --> 01:17:39.520
<v Speaker 8>You know, if you look at say IMDb, it looked

1649
01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:42.039
<v Speaker 8>like they've been involved in sort of three things like

1650
01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:44.680
<v Speaker 8>The Recruit, which was an al Pacino movie that kind

1651
01:17:44.720 --> 01:17:47.239
<v Speaker 8>of sank into the water a bit, and a.

1652
01:17:47.199 --> 01:17:50.039
<v Speaker 4>Couple of other things. But actually we found out just two.

1653
01:17:50.039 --> 01:17:52.239
<v Speaker 8>Or three years ago, just because the CIA just started

1654
01:17:52.279 --> 01:17:54.960
<v Speaker 8>to slightly open up a little chink, and then we

1655
01:17:55.000 --> 01:17:58.119
<v Speaker 8>realized that they were involved in whole series like twenty

1656
01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:02.039
<v Speaker 8>four and Alias, and they were involved in many more films,

1657
01:18:02.079 --> 01:18:04.399
<v Speaker 8>and we realized they were involved in Charlie Wilson's War,

1658
01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:08.239
<v Speaker 8>and a lot of these things were people kind of

1659
01:18:08.680 --> 01:18:11.359
<v Speaker 8>suspected maybe that there was, but there was nothing ever

1660
01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:13.720
<v Speaker 8>written down on paper. And even now with the CIA,

1661
01:18:13.800 --> 01:18:16.880
<v Speaker 8>because it's much more closed, we don't.

1662
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:18.880
<v Speaker 2>See the scripts.

1663
01:18:18.439 --> 01:18:20.920
<v Speaker 8>And the annotations and the memos and the letters going

1664
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:23.000
<v Speaker 8>back and forth. We would like you to change this, this,

1665
01:18:23.079 --> 01:18:25.000
<v Speaker 8>and this. It seems to be done a lot more

1666
01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:25.600
<v Speaker 8>on the slide.

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01:18:25.720 --> 01:18:29.479
<v Speaker 9>What you're saying is that there's active script amendment from

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01:18:29.560 --> 01:18:35.640
<v Speaker 9>on high to ultimately push a certain narrative which ultimately

1669
01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:37.359
<v Speaker 9>fits in with American foreign policy.

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01:18:37.479 --> 01:18:40.119
<v Speaker 4>Still, yeah, yeah, all the time.

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01:18:40.000 --> 01:18:43.039
<v Speaker 8>And more so now because in fact, that process has

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01:18:43.079 --> 01:18:46.520
<v Speaker 8>accelerated considerably in the last sort of ten or fifteen years.

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01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:51.359
<v Speaker 8>Why because the explosion of TV channels, the military in

1674
01:18:51.359 --> 01:18:54.560
<v Speaker 8>particular has said, let's get involved in TV much more so.

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01:18:54.600 --> 01:18:56.800
<v Speaker 8>They get involved in all sorts of things, including cookery

1676
01:18:56.840 --> 01:18:59.520
<v Speaker 8>shows and all sorts. Every time that there's a military

1677
01:18:59.560 --> 01:19:03.279
<v Speaker 8>person who's baking a cake or flying off into space

1678
01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:05.279
<v Speaker 8>or whatever it is, the military is going to be

1679
01:19:05.279 --> 01:19:07.560
<v Speaker 8>the people behind that, and they are going to want

1680
01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:10.439
<v Speaker 8>to have right to amend the script. The point is

1681
01:19:10.760 --> 01:19:13.720
<v Speaker 8>it doesn't necessarily matter too much if it occasionally happens

1682
01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:16.439
<v Speaker 8>this sort of thing, but it's the fact that it's systematic.

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01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:18.560
<v Speaker 4>If you look at this what we could call a.

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01:19:18.520 --> 01:19:23.800
<v Speaker 8>Subgenre of action films, or a kind of genre to

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01:19:23.840 --> 01:19:25.680
<v Speaker 8>the side, if you like, we could call it national

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01:19:25.760 --> 01:19:29.560
<v Speaker 8>security cinema, And you're talking about several hundred products which

1687
01:19:29.600 --> 01:19:32.520
<v Speaker 8>are very prominent about the way that we view the

1688
01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:36.199
<v Speaker 8>entire geopolitical world and the way that we view our leaders.

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01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:40.119
<v Speaker 8>National security cinema comprises all of these movies, and also

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01:19:40.199 --> 01:19:41.960
<v Speaker 8>you could extend it to TV if you wanted, and

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01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:45.279
<v Speaker 8>to video games of course, and they're usually worked on

1692
01:19:45.520 --> 01:19:49.840
<v Speaker 8>and edited by these quite secretive military organizations. And they're

1693
01:19:49.840 --> 01:19:52.840
<v Speaker 8>also promoting this line, which is that United States Western

1694
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:55.680
<v Speaker 8>foreign policy is good, that there are official.

1695
01:19:55.399 --> 01:19:57.119
<v Speaker 4>Enemies that we should destroy.

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01:19:57.600 --> 01:20:01.199
<v Speaker 8>A lot of the time. They've been ara Muslim enemies,

1697
01:20:01.359 --> 01:20:02.880
<v Speaker 8>not all the time, and there has been a small

1698
01:20:02.920 --> 01:20:05.279
<v Speaker 8>improvement on that over the last sort of fifteen years

1699
01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:07.920
<v Speaker 8>or so, because they don't want to start a civilizational

1700
01:20:08.039 --> 01:20:11.560
<v Speaker 8>war and they don't want blood on the streets, particularly

1701
01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:13.880
<v Speaker 8>between Christians and Muslims.

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01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:17.039
<v Speaker 3>Okay, wow, And it made me think too, like if

1703
01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:20.159
<v Speaker 3>you remember, especially when we were growing up, you know,

1704
01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:24.079
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't so much you know, Muslim countries that we

1705
01:20:24.079 --> 01:20:25.239
<v Speaker 3>were at war against.

1706
01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:27.199
<v Speaker 2>It was always the fucking Russians.

1707
01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:30.720
<v Speaker 4>You know, so to that point, Actually, I just looked

1708
01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:32.680
<v Speaker 4>up what Charlie Wilson's war was. We don't have to

1709
01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:33.520
<v Speaker 4>look at that, honestly.

1710
01:20:33.640 --> 01:20:37.359
<v Speaker 5>So all right, do you ever watched the old Claymation

1711
01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:40.960
<v Speaker 5>Christmas time movies that our parents grew up watching, Root

1712
01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:41.239
<v Speaker 5>Off the.

1713
01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Red Nose Reindeer. Yeah, Frosty the Snowman, all that shit.

1714
01:20:44.920 --> 01:20:47.720
<v Speaker 4>So with that, do you remember the Jack Frost movie

1715
01:20:48.439 --> 01:20:52.159
<v Speaker 4>and there was the bad guy with his robot army.

1716
01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:56.039
<v Speaker 4>He was Russian. Yeah, he was a Russian guy. Why

1717
01:20:56.039 --> 01:20:57.319
<v Speaker 4>would he in our way?

1718
01:20:57.560 --> 01:21:01.319
<v Speaker 5>Maybe currently we could see or were the evil Russian,

1719
01:21:01.359 --> 01:21:03.680
<v Speaker 5>But back when that came out, dude, that was cold warshit.

1720
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:05.600
<v Speaker 5>There was a reason why that was done that way.

1721
01:21:05.720 --> 01:21:08.520
<v Speaker 5>Same thing with the Santa Claus coming to town. The

1722
01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:12.399
<v Speaker 5>burger Meister meister Berger was a German mayor that was

1723
01:21:12.439 --> 01:21:14.439
<v Speaker 5>so mean to these kids and all this, and they

1724
01:21:14.600 --> 01:21:17.880
<v Speaker 5>were even wearing stripe pajamas for fuck's sake. But like,

1725
01:21:18.399 --> 01:21:22.039
<v Speaker 5>it didn't resonate with our generation of being a child,

1726
01:21:22.079 --> 01:21:25.039
<v Speaker 5>but to our parents' generation that was intended for Cold

1727
01:21:25.079 --> 01:21:28.199
<v Speaker 5>War style Russian Germany. They were clearly the bad guys

1728
01:21:28.199 --> 01:21:28.760
<v Speaker 5>of all things.

1729
01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:31.119
<v Speaker 3>Ever, well, and you see now they're starting to pull

1730
01:21:31.159 --> 01:21:34.560
<v Speaker 3>away from that whole Russia bad guy kind of situation,

1731
01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:38.119
<v Speaker 3>and maybe maybe not entirely, but makes me think. I

1732
01:21:38.159 --> 01:21:39.680
<v Speaker 3>just went to go see a couple weeks ago the

1733
01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:43.359
<v Speaker 3>new Leland, Stitch and uh Old Boy wasn't Russian anymore.

1734
01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:44.960
<v Speaker 3>It was fucking Zach Galafanakis.

1735
01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:46.680
<v Speaker 4>I know, I fucking hated that.

1736
01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:49.159
<v Speaker 3>But if you think about it, if you think about it,

1737
01:21:49.239 --> 01:21:52.239
<v Speaker 3>if they're not trying to push that Russia is necessarily

1738
01:21:52.359 --> 01:21:56.159
<v Speaker 3>the worst enemy right now, then yeah, you would take

1739
01:21:56.239 --> 01:21:59.199
<v Speaker 3>that out right Like so it almost makes you think that,

1740
01:21:59.319 --> 01:22:03.079
<v Speaker 3>like maybe there was some kind of military propagation within

1741
01:22:03.159 --> 01:22:04.720
<v Speaker 3>even Leelo and Stitch.

1742
01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:08.840
<v Speaker 5>Right there really is to your point, right, So, like

1743
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:11.760
<v Speaker 5>you said, there was in the past few decades, a

1744
01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:14.479
<v Speaker 5>lot of the bad guys in the movies have been

1745
01:22:14.720 --> 01:22:17.800
<v Speaker 5>Muslim or at least from an Islamic state in some way,

1746
01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:20.479
<v Speaker 5>shape or form, and they have kind of pulled away

1747
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:22.920
<v Speaker 5>from that. But it's not just in America. Other countries

1748
01:22:22.920 --> 01:22:25.880
<v Speaker 5>have done very similar things, and they didn't want to

1749
01:22:25.880 --> 01:22:29.039
<v Speaker 5>start a civilization war where it was straight and not

1750
01:22:29.079 --> 01:22:32.880
<v Speaker 5>just necessarily Christians versus Muslims, but most of the West

1751
01:22:33.039 --> 01:22:36.319
<v Speaker 5>versus everything of the Arab nations, Like they didn't want

1752
01:22:36.359 --> 01:22:38.239
<v Speaker 5>it to go to that level. But at the same time,

1753
01:22:38.680 --> 01:22:42.279
<v Speaker 5>any war movie that was based from anything associated with

1754
01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:45.239
<v Speaker 5>the global War on Terror, this is why it was

1755
01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:48.079
<v Speaker 5>that way. But then at the same time, we look

1756
01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:51.119
<v Speaker 5>at Rambo. There's a really good case study for this. Okay,

1757
01:22:51.319 --> 01:22:53.760
<v Speaker 5>there's been what five Rambo movies that have come out,

1758
01:22:53.920 --> 01:22:57.760
<v Speaker 5>something like that. First one it was just Rambo versus

1759
01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:00.520
<v Speaker 5>the police and the National Guard, right, just a Vietnam

1760
01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:01.199
<v Speaker 5>soldier kind.

1761
01:23:01.079 --> 01:23:03.359
<v Speaker 4>Of dealing with some PTSD on some shit. Okay.

1762
01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:07.319
<v Speaker 5>The next one, Rambo two, he's going back to Vietnam

1763
01:23:07.359 --> 01:23:09.800
<v Speaker 5>to save the POW's and there's a bunch of movies

1764
01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:11.760
<v Speaker 5>where they're like going in to save our boys and

1765
01:23:11.800 --> 01:23:12.439
<v Speaker 5>all of these things.

1766
01:23:12.439 --> 01:23:13.079
<v Speaker 4>All right, cool.

1767
01:23:13.600 --> 01:23:17.560
<v Speaker 5>Third Rambo he's in Afghanistan and he's fighting with the

1768
01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:21.479
<v Speaker 5>muja Hadeen against the Soviets. This is for the optics

1769
01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:23.800
<v Speaker 5>of it. Now cut to the very last Rambo that

1770
01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:26.760
<v Speaker 5>just came out. They could have put them anywhere. They

1771
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:28.479
<v Speaker 5>could have put him in the Middle East, they could

1772
01:23:28.520 --> 01:23:31.640
<v Speaker 5>have put them in France, for fuck's sake. They put

1773
01:23:31.680 --> 01:23:35.239
<v Speaker 5>them back in Southeast Asia on purpose, because if they're

1774
01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:37.239
<v Speaker 5>going to make someone look like the bad guy, they

1775
01:23:37.279 --> 01:23:40.159
<v Speaker 5>want to make sure it's not feeding into any current

1776
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:43.199
<v Speaker 5>fire that's going on. He went to memr He went

1777
01:23:43.239 --> 01:23:46.880
<v Speaker 5>to where the what used to be Burma, where they

1778
01:23:46.920 --> 01:23:48.720
<v Speaker 5>currently are growing most of the world's opium.

1779
01:23:48.760 --> 01:23:51.439
<v Speaker 4>I might throw out they send them there for that.

1780
01:23:52.119 --> 01:23:53.800
<v Speaker 4>You see what I'm saying that all is a part

1781
01:23:53.960 --> 01:23:54.640
<v Speaker 4>of a plan.

1782
01:23:55.039 --> 01:23:57.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, and this is a part of just the mass

1783
01:23:58.039 --> 01:24:01.600
<v Speaker 3>hypnosis of the population. And we've brought up about how

1784
01:24:02.159 --> 01:24:05.359
<v Speaker 3>they were trying to see how how fast somebody would

1785
01:24:05.359 --> 01:24:07.880
<v Speaker 3>slip into a trance like state whenever they're watching TV.

1786
01:24:07.960 --> 01:24:09.600
<v Speaker 3>They hooked up a bunch of nodes to a bunch

1787
01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:13.520
<v Speaker 3>of these people, right, and nobody could last longer than

1788
01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:17.079
<v Speaker 3>sixty seconds before slipping into a beta trance, which is

1789
01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:19.399
<v Speaker 3>just a light trance. But the longer you're sitting in

1790
01:24:19.399 --> 01:24:21.680
<v Speaker 3>front of it, the you know, you ever notice like

1791
01:24:21.760 --> 01:24:24.399
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people start to get really tired when

1792
01:24:24.439 --> 01:24:27.039
<v Speaker 3>they're watching a movie, especially if it's like maybe it's

1793
01:24:27.119 --> 01:24:29.520
<v Speaker 3>maybe I don't know, maybe it's kind of boring or whatever,

1794
01:24:29.600 --> 01:24:32.520
<v Speaker 3>but a lot of people start to get really tired. Well,

1795
01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:35.239
<v Speaker 3>what comes right before you're about to fall asleep is

1796
01:24:35.319 --> 01:24:38.119
<v Speaker 3>known as the Theta state of mind, which is literally

1797
01:24:38.199 --> 01:24:40.720
<v Speaker 3>it only happens naturally twice a day right before you

1798
01:24:40.760 --> 01:24:42.319
<v Speaker 3>fall asleep, and as soon as you wake up, you're

1799
01:24:42.359 --> 01:24:43.920
<v Speaker 3>in a little bit of a haze. One foot in

1800
01:24:43.960 --> 01:24:46.000
<v Speaker 3>the dream world, one foot in the real world. Well,

1801
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:48.880
<v Speaker 3>if you're in front of a TV, and think about

1802
01:24:48.920 --> 01:24:51.199
<v Speaker 3>how many people fall asleep with the TV on. Right,

1803
01:24:51.520 --> 01:24:54.199
<v Speaker 3>If you're in front of a TV and you're going

1804
01:24:54.239 --> 01:24:56.760
<v Speaker 3>into this trance like state. Well, now, once you're in

1805
01:24:56.800 --> 01:24:59.960
<v Speaker 3>that theta or even beta, but especially the theta mindset.

1806
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.840
<v Speaker 3>But that's actually what most little kids up until they're

1807
01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:06.119
<v Speaker 3>seven years old are naturally in. They haven't learned to

1808
01:25:06.560 --> 01:25:10.079
<v Speaker 3>get into the higher you know, states of consciousness such

1809
01:25:10.079 --> 01:25:12.720
<v Speaker 3>as beta and and well such as al alpha and

1810
01:25:12.800 --> 01:25:16.720
<v Speaker 3>beta beta. Sorry, so beta is natural. Alpha is the

1811
01:25:16.760 --> 01:25:19.079
<v Speaker 3>light trance. I got that mixed up, but you know,

1812
01:25:19.159 --> 01:25:22.079
<v Speaker 3>and that's this is part of the hypnosis. And so

1813
01:25:22.159 --> 01:25:24.840
<v Speaker 3>whenever you're watching a movie, you're going into that trance.

1814
01:25:24.880 --> 01:25:27.640
<v Speaker 3>You're a lot more suggestive, and that's the big deal.

1815
01:25:27.680 --> 01:25:29.359
<v Speaker 3>That's where they're trying to get you. They're trying to

1816
01:25:29.399 --> 01:25:32.279
<v Speaker 3>get you to be as suggestive as humanly possible, as

1817
01:25:32.319 --> 01:25:35.520
<v Speaker 3>if you actually are under hypnosis. And of course the

1818
01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:38.319
<v Speaker 3>military would want to diddle your brain a little bit

1819
01:25:38.359 --> 01:25:42.560
<v Speaker 3>whenever you're in some kind of slight trance, right, absolutely, So,

1820
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:45.159
<v Speaker 3>now we're going to dive a little bit deeper into

1821
01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:47.479
<v Speaker 3>the some of the movies that we had named, first

1822
01:25:47.479 --> 01:25:50.399
<v Speaker 3>one being Top Gun in nineteen eighty six. The branches

1823
01:25:50.399 --> 01:25:52.760
<v Speaker 3>that were involved were the US Navy and the Department

1824
01:25:52.800 --> 01:25:55.680
<v Speaker 3>of Defense. So Top Gun, it says, was a turning

1825
01:25:55.720 --> 01:25:59.239
<v Speaker 3>point for military propaganda in film. The Navy offered full

1826
01:25:59.279 --> 01:26:04.720
<v Speaker 3>cooperation jets, aircraft, carriers and all on the condition that

1827
01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:09.880
<v Speaker 3>the script glorified naval aviation and remove any unfavorable content.

1828
01:26:10.199 --> 01:26:13.520
<v Speaker 3>The recruitment booths were set up in theaters after the film.

1829
01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:17.159
<v Speaker 3>Holy shit, did you know that? Say that again, brother,

1830
01:26:17.359 --> 01:26:20.880
<v Speaker 3>The recruitment booths were set up in theaters for people

1831
01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:22.359
<v Speaker 3>that got done watching the film.

1832
01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that, but I could believe that, oh man.

1833
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:31.199
<v Speaker 2>And of course in Listman Sword, the film sold war

1834
01:26:31.359 --> 01:26:36.479
<v Speaker 2>as an adrenaline filled lifestyle, complete with homo erotic undertones

1835
01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:41.039
<v Speaker 2>disguised as camaraderie and thrilling dog fights, backed by Kenny Loggins,

1836
01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:42.439
<v Speaker 2>this was no accident.

1837
01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:45.880
<v Speaker 5>God, erotic shit, that was the Nobody can watch that

1838
01:26:45.960 --> 01:26:48.800
<v Speaker 5>volleyball scene without being like, bro, why, like you didn't

1839
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:50.960
<v Speaker 5>need to do it like this, but they did.

1840
01:26:51.520 --> 01:26:52.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

1841
01:26:52.399 --> 01:26:55.880
<v Speaker 3>It was almost reminiscent of Brohemian Grove. If you were there,

1842
01:26:56.000 --> 01:26:57.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, you know what we're talking about.

1843
01:26:58.039 --> 01:27:00.840
<v Speaker 4>Jesus fuck. That was yeah, am moving on.

1844
01:27:02.600 --> 01:27:05.560
<v Speaker 3>It says this was no accident. The Pentagon rewrote parts

1845
01:27:05.600 --> 01:27:07.720
<v Speaker 3>of the script and the love interest had to be

1846
01:27:07.840 --> 01:27:12.399
<v Speaker 3>changed from a Navy officer to a civilian. Viewers subconsciously

1847
01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:15.960
<v Speaker 3>absorbed a message the military is badass and joining makes

1848
01:27:15.960 --> 01:27:19.079
<v Speaker 3>you a hero. The phrase I feel the need the

1849
01:27:19.119 --> 01:27:22.479
<v Speaker 3>need for speed became more than just a catchphrase. It

1850
01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:24.520
<v Speaker 3>became a subtle call to service.

1851
01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah wow, dude, oh man.

1852
01:27:31.000 --> 01:27:35.079
<v Speaker 3>We're really fucking breaking it open in this one. So yeah,

1853
01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:36.800
<v Speaker 3>that's Top Gun. That's the first one came out in

1854
01:27:36.840 --> 01:27:39.600
<v Speaker 3>eighty six. The next one, Top Gun Maverick, that came

1855
01:27:39.640 --> 01:27:42.159
<v Speaker 3>out in twenty twenty two. The branches involved were the same,

1856
01:27:42.199 --> 01:27:45.359
<v Speaker 3>with the US Navy and the DoD three decades later.

1857
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:48.479
<v Speaker 3>Top Gun Maverick wasn't just a sequel. It was a

1858
01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:53.000
<v Speaker 3>modern military recruitment commercial. The Navy once again gave filmmakers

1859
01:27:53.039 --> 01:27:57.239
<v Speaker 3>access to FA eighteen super hornets, real naval bases, and

1860
01:27:57.279 --> 01:27:59.520
<v Speaker 3>even aircraft carriers in exchange.

1861
01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:01.079
<v Speaker 2>The script underwent.

1862
01:28:00.760 --> 01:28:04.119
<v Speaker 3>Extensive review by the Department of Defense to ensure a

1863
01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:07.800
<v Speaker 3>positive portrayal of military life and leadership. Do you think

1864
01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:10.880
<v Speaker 3>about the money you need? Like think about it, Like,

1865
01:28:11.279 --> 01:28:14.079
<v Speaker 3>how much money do you think the military spent in

1866
01:28:14.199 --> 01:28:17.439
<v Speaker 3>order just to have these people in fighter jets and

1867
01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:21.399
<v Speaker 3>fucking actual aircraft carriers and everything. Like how much money

1868
01:28:21.399 --> 01:28:23.079
<v Speaker 3>do you think that would cost if you were to

1869
01:28:23.159 --> 01:28:26.760
<v Speaker 3>pay the military to use that kind of shit? I mean,

1870
01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:30.199
<v Speaker 3>if you're gonna be in a flight simulator and that's

1871
01:28:30.199 --> 01:28:32.880
<v Speaker 3>what we're doing here and get some CGI in it

1872
01:28:32.920 --> 01:28:35.279
<v Speaker 3>and everything, and basically you're like, listen, we just need

1873
01:28:35.720 --> 01:28:38.159
<v Speaker 3>some camera set up outside of one of your jets

1874
01:28:38.199 --> 01:28:41.279
<v Speaker 3>that's parked, and we need a helmet and the mask

1875
01:28:41.319 --> 01:28:43.840
<v Speaker 3>in the flight suit, and that's all we need. You

1876
01:28:43.840 --> 01:28:46.680
<v Speaker 3>could probably get out of it pretty pretty easily as

1877
01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:47.159
<v Speaker 3>far as the.

1878
01:28:47.079 --> 01:28:48.279
<v Speaker 4>Finibals are concerned.

1879
01:28:48.880 --> 01:28:51.079
<v Speaker 5>For you to go up in the air and like

1880
01:28:51.159 --> 01:28:53.479
<v Speaker 5>have because you can't see their faces unless like when

1881
01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:55.359
<v Speaker 5>he unhooked his mask and was talking to his boy

1882
01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:57.920
<v Speaker 5>or whatever, which is bullshit, I might add, but whatever,

1883
01:28:58.479 --> 01:29:00.399
<v Speaker 5>But they did that so that you could see as face.

1884
01:29:01.039 --> 01:29:04.119
<v Speaker 5>That's another thing they do in movies a lot, even

1885
01:29:04.119 --> 01:29:07.119
<v Speaker 5>in medieval movies. You see these times with these guys

1886
01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:09.279
<v Speaker 5>in the middle of pitch combat will take off their

1887
01:29:09.319 --> 01:29:11.920
<v Speaker 5>helmet and just so you could see their hair, and.

1888
01:29:11.880 --> 01:29:14.960
<v Speaker 4>All like, no, the fuck you would not. Homeboy's got

1889
01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:17.960
<v Speaker 4>an axe aimed at your skull. You're gonna take it off,

1890
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:22.079
<v Speaker 4>my boy. No, you're not entertained, right exactly exactly.

1891
01:29:22.119 --> 01:29:25.640
<v Speaker 5>So you see these movies where Homeboy like takes off

1892
01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:27.600
<v Speaker 5>his helmet in the middle of a firefight, or he

1893
01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:31.079
<v Speaker 5>takes off his breathing mask when he's in a jet

1894
01:29:31.279 --> 01:29:33.399
<v Speaker 5>like pulling mock too, and it's like, who you're not,

1895
01:29:33.920 --> 01:29:36.680
<v Speaker 5>it's unrealistic, but it's for the cinema.

1896
01:29:36.760 --> 01:29:40.279
<v Speaker 4>That's what we would call creative liberties. Right. So, if

1897
01:29:40.279 --> 01:29:41.960
<v Speaker 4>you're going up in the air and.

1898
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<v Speaker 5>You've got an actual naval pilot flying in the front

1899
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<v Speaker 5>seat and maybe the actor is in the back seat

1900
01:29:46.680 --> 01:29:49.920
<v Speaker 5>getting the shots, if you will, or whatever, Yeah, that's

1901
01:29:49.960 --> 01:29:53.319
<v Speaker 5>costing jet fuel. That's costing man hours and maintenance hours

1902
01:29:53.359 --> 01:29:55.560
<v Speaker 5>on that aircraft to get it up in the air

1903
01:29:55.840 --> 01:29:59.039
<v Speaker 5>you're getting on the aircraft carrier itself to get these shots,

1904
01:29:59.039 --> 01:30:01.560
<v Speaker 5>Like yo, it's it's gonna lost time and money. And

1905
01:30:01.600 --> 01:30:04.239
<v Speaker 5>the military, if it's for the principle of recruiting, is

1906
01:30:04.399 --> 01:30:07.359
<v Speaker 5>very capable and willing to spend that time and money.

1907
01:30:07.439 --> 01:30:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely got to spend money to make money. That's how

1908
01:30:10.000 --> 01:30:12.920
<v Speaker 4>this goes. But it's not like they're doing it just

1909
01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:14.720
<v Speaker 4>out of the kind of so their fucking hearts dog

1910
01:30:14.800 --> 01:30:18.439
<v Speaker 4>now they need warm bodies. We really do, We really do.

1911
01:30:18.640 --> 01:30:23.039
<v Speaker 3>So beyond the nostalgia, Maverick reinforced traditional values, respect for

1912
01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:26.960
<v Speaker 3>chain of command, heroism and the redemptive arc of duty.

1913
01:30:27.159 --> 01:30:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Subtle programming reinforce military superiority through cinematic adrenaline, hyperreal dogfights,

1914
01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:36.880
<v Speaker 3>heroic sacrifice, and the idea that older soldiers still matter.

1915
01:30:37.199 --> 01:30:41.199
<v Speaker 3>It was a fantasy, but one engineered to ignite patriotic fervor.

1916
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I can believe that. I mean, the old soldiers

1917
01:30:44.479 --> 01:30:46.760
<v Speaker 5>still mattering. You know, Tom Selik fucking killed the role,

1918
01:30:47.479 --> 01:30:48.680
<v Speaker 5>so I mean, hey, I'm here for.

1919
01:30:48.680 --> 01:30:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Tom Selik, one of the fucking OG's dude.

1920
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<v Speaker 5>And then the Maverick movie, they Jesus Val Kilmer. He

1921
01:30:54.479 --> 01:30:56.760
<v Speaker 5>couldn't even talk anymore. They had him typing out in

1922
01:30:56.880 --> 01:30:59.199
<v Speaker 5>all of that, and which is also kind of sad,

1923
01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:02.279
<v Speaker 5>it is, but also like it's that's in the realm

1924
01:31:02.279 --> 01:31:05.279
<v Speaker 5>of being unrealistic. If they would have made him seem

1925
01:31:05.279 --> 01:31:09.399
<v Speaker 5>like a retired admiral or something who's sitting on the

1926
01:31:09.439 --> 01:31:11.279
<v Speaker 5>porch at his house and he's typing out something to

1927
01:31:11.319 --> 01:31:13.479
<v Speaker 5>his old friend Maverick, that would have been way more

1928
01:31:13.479 --> 01:31:16.279
<v Speaker 5>believable than a guy who you're trying to pass off

1929
01:31:16.279 --> 01:31:20.000
<v Speaker 5>as somebody in a command position who's unable to speak.

1930
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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm sorry, that's not some school.

1931
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<v Speaker 5>No, they're not gonna do that, especially if he was

1932
01:31:28.000 --> 01:31:30.239
<v Speaker 5>like some sort of like a nuclear commander or something,

1933
01:31:30.239 --> 01:31:32.680
<v Speaker 5>where like he had a very specific set of skills

1934
01:31:32.680 --> 01:31:35.560
<v Speaker 5>that the Navy couldn't go without. Fine, they'll make certain

1935
01:31:35.600 --> 01:31:37.920
<v Speaker 5>exceptions and allowances and waivers for things like that.

1936
01:31:37.960 --> 01:31:42.079
<v Speaker 4>I understand this. He was a fucking pilot, that's not.

1937
01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:45.079
<v Speaker 5>No, you wouldn't keep that guy around because he's like

1938
01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:48.199
<v Speaker 5>that critical in his position. You would force him out,

1939
01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:51.600
<v Speaker 5>you would give him a medical retirement. But okay, sure,

1940
01:31:52.039 --> 01:31:53.039
<v Speaker 5>I'm batman.

1941
01:31:55.159 --> 01:31:57.119
<v Speaker 4>You know, is it never mind? I want to be mean.

1942
01:31:57.199 --> 01:31:59.199
<v Speaker 4>Val Kilmer did an Okay, job as Batman.

1943
01:31:59.359 --> 01:31:59.760
<v Speaker 7>But like.

1944
01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:05.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying anyway.

1945
01:32:05.960 --> 01:32:08.239
<v Speaker 3>The next movie or series that we get into is

1946
01:32:08.279 --> 01:32:11.119
<v Speaker 3>the Transformer series from two thousand and seven to present day.

1947
01:32:11.720 --> 01:32:15.439
<v Speaker 3>The branches involved were the DoD the Air Force, and

1948
01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:20.359
<v Speaker 3>the Army. Michael Bay your favorite director. Michael Bay's Transformer

1949
01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:24.119
<v Speaker 3>films are effectively love letters to the American military dressed

1950
01:32:24.199 --> 01:32:28.880
<v Speaker 3>up as alien robot battles. Depentagon offered tanks, helicopters, jets,

1951
01:32:28.880 --> 01:32:32.520
<v Speaker 3>and base access in return for script consultation and guidance.

1952
01:32:32.840 --> 01:32:36.399
<v Speaker 3>That's why nearly every military figure is heroic and why

1953
01:32:36.439 --> 01:32:40.920
<v Speaker 3>the US response to alien threats is overwhelmingly competent. Unlike

1954
01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:44.399
<v Speaker 3>in most sci fi narratives, the subconscious programming is thick

1955
01:32:44.840 --> 01:32:48.359
<v Speaker 3>might makes right. Military technology is our greatest weapon and

1956
01:32:48.439 --> 01:32:52.760
<v Speaker 3>win in doubt. Call the Army characters like I figured

1957
01:32:52.800 --> 01:33:01.359
<v Speaker 3>you no offense, no offen to the people in the Army.

1958
01:33:01.960 --> 01:33:03.920
<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, it's not like a Wendell called him

1959
01:33:03.920 --> 01:33:06.520
<v Speaker 5>Marie's it's not even taking that stance. It's like that

1960
01:33:06.520 --> 01:33:10.520
<v Speaker 5>that That is one of the most opinions that anybody's

1961
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:11.560
<v Speaker 5>ever had.

1962
01:33:12.600 --> 01:33:16.720
<v Speaker 3>Characters like Josh Dummel's Special Forces leader are stoic brave

1963
01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:20.960
<v Speaker 3>and unwavering. Even optimist Prime's voice often echoes Reagan era

1964
01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:25.720
<v Speaker 3>messaging peace through strength, trust authority, and protect quote unquote freedom.

1965
01:33:26.079 --> 01:33:29.079
<v Speaker 3>It's cgi warporn greenlit by the DoD.

1966
01:33:30.039 --> 01:33:32.039
<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent agree with that. And for the record,

1967
01:33:32.199 --> 01:33:35.800
<v Speaker 4>I don't hate Michael Bay as a director, but like,

1968
01:33:36.159 --> 01:33:40.560
<v Speaker 4>there's no need. Transformers is the exception, because all right,

1969
01:33:40.600 --> 01:33:44.319
<v Speaker 4>if you're gonna have an intergalactic robot alien race having battles,

1970
01:33:44.359 --> 01:33:47.239
<v Speaker 4>there's gonna be explosions and crazy shit. I get it.

1971
01:33:48.039 --> 01:33:51.079
<v Speaker 4>But every movie he does, It's South Park even made

1972
01:33:51.119 --> 01:33:53.039
<v Speaker 4>a joke about this. They're like in the writer's room

1973
01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:56.560
<v Speaker 4>and he's like and then more explosions and this goes

1974
01:33:56.600 --> 01:33:58.399
<v Speaker 4>here and they're like, wait, we're in the in the

1975
01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:01.880
<v Speaker 4>coffee scene like that and more explosions, and it's like,

1976
01:34:02.159 --> 01:34:05.359
<v Speaker 4>you go over the top, Like, more explosions does not

1977
01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:08.720
<v Speaker 4>equal a good movie. I know that's a crazy thing

1978
01:34:08.760 --> 01:34:10.399
<v Speaker 4>to Michael Bay. He doesn't believe that.

1979
01:34:10.520 --> 01:34:12.680
<v Speaker 5>He thinks that the only way you can have a

1980
01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:15.920
<v Speaker 5>blockbuster hit is that there's explosions on screen like every

1981
01:34:15.960 --> 01:34:19.840
<v Speaker 5>fifteen seconds. Okay, I just I personally disagree with that,

1982
01:34:20.079 --> 01:34:23.039
<v Speaker 5>but he did good with the Transformer movies. I think

1983
01:34:23.039 --> 01:34:26.199
<v Speaker 5>they kind of I think they kind of overstayed their

1984
01:34:26.239 --> 01:34:29.319
<v Speaker 5>welcome a bit when Shilah Buff was no longer in them.

1985
01:34:29.359 --> 01:34:32.800
<v Speaker 4>I just kind of lost lost that want. Yeah, it's

1986
01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:34.800
<v Speaker 4>something that I don't like Mark Wahlberg either. I love

1987
01:34:34.880 --> 01:34:37.960
<v Speaker 4>him as an actor, but like not in Transformers. That

1988
01:34:38.159 --> 01:34:40.960
<v Speaker 4>wasn't his role. Dude, that's not his genre.

1989
01:34:41.199 --> 01:34:43.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry anyway, Although I will say the Bumblebee movie

1990
01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:45.560
<v Speaker 3>was really good. Didn't have Shila Buff in it, but

1991
01:34:45.600 --> 01:34:47.479
<v Speaker 3>if you watch that one, that was a really good movie.

1992
01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:49.760
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I've seen that one honestly is

1993
01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:50.279
<v Speaker 4>a good one.

1994
01:34:50.359 --> 01:34:50.920
<v Speaker 2>It's a good one.

1995
01:34:52.119 --> 01:34:56.199
<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, we got the Transformers and uh oh, by

1996
01:34:56.239 --> 01:34:59.439
<v Speaker 3>the way, shout out to Shilah Buff's a strange sister,

1997
01:34:59.479 --> 01:35:04.399
<v Speaker 3>which we before the claim that Shilah Buff is a

1998
01:35:04.439 --> 01:35:06.399
<v Speaker 3>love child of Jeffrey Epstein.

1999
01:35:06.520 --> 01:35:07.720
<v Speaker 2>I believe isn't that what we said?

2000
01:35:08.359 --> 01:35:11.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I've done more digging into that. That would be

2001
01:35:11.720 --> 01:35:14.079
<v Speaker 5>an internet whack job. She's still going, by the way,

2002
01:35:14.520 --> 01:35:17.119
<v Speaker 5>I believe you. She's been like showing up on podcasts

2003
01:35:17.159 --> 01:35:21.359
<v Speaker 5>and stuff. We've had quite a few internet whack jobs

2004
01:35:21.359 --> 01:35:24.239
<v Speaker 5>that we've talked about before. Some of them on the show,

2005
01:35:24.840 --> 01:35:27.960
<v Speaker 5>some of them, some of them on the show. And yeah,

2006
01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:31.880
<v Speaker 5>she's attempting to carve out her own fifteen minutes of fame.

2007
01:35:31.960 --> 01:35:34.840
<v Speaker 5>But like, I don't know if she understands this, but

2008
01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:37.840
<v Speaker 5>she could be sued for character defamation if she gets

2009
01:35:37.840 --> 01:35:38.720
<v Speaker 5>big enough and like.

2010
01:35:38.720 --> 01:35:40.520
<v Speaker 4>Goes that route. Now, I don't know if Shia would

2011
01:35:40.520 --> 01:35:40.840
<v Speaker 4>do that.

2012
01:35:41.319 --> 01:35:43.439
<v Speaker 5>He's on this whole biblical kick right now, and he

2013
01:35:43.520 --> 01:35:46.720
<v Speaker 5>seems like he's doing better as a person now more

2014
01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:49.119
<v Speaker 5>than he has in the last fucking twenty years.

2015
01:35:49.119 --> 01:35:49.640
<v Speaker 2>I disagree.

2016
01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:51.439
<v Speaker 3>I think he's even crazier now than he ever was

2017
01:35:52.319 --> 01:35:55.960
<v Speaker 3>because he's Catholic. Oh dude, he's hardcore into the Catholic shit.

2018
01:35:56.039 --> 01:35:58.640
<v Speaker 4>Now, like you, most people that get that way are.

2019
01:35:58.880 --> 01:36:01.640
<v Speaker 3>That's a sane person, that's what you think. I like,

2020
01:36:01.720 --> 01:36:04.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean so completely into the I mean, I get

2021
01:36:04.760 --> 01:36:05.600
<v Speaker 3>the Christian thing.

2022
01:36:05.720 --> 01:36:06.479
<v Speaker 2>Bud Catholic.

2023
01:36:06.640 --> 01:36:09.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean nothing against Catholics, but that's like the most

2024
01:36:09.399 --> 01:36:12.960
<v Speaker 3>occult version of Christianity. After my research into.

2025
01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:15.479
<v Speaker 4>It, I think he kind of speaks to certain people

2026
01:36:15.640 --> 01:36:20.239
<v Speaker 4>that they truly like the the mechanics of it. They

2027
01:36:20.439 --> 01:36:22.760
<v Speaker 4>like the way the Mass is laid out and how

2028
01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:25.760
<v Speaker 4>it's traditionally done this way, and it gives them a

2029
01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:28.560
<v Speaker 4>sense of like historical precedence, and it gives them a

2030
01:36:28.600 --> 01:36:31.520
<v Speaker 4>sense of like order to an otherwise chaotic life.

2031
01:36:31.600 --> 01:36:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Some people just love being told what to do.

2032
01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:36.680
<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, that's the Bible is not a rule

2033
01:36:36.680 --> 01:36:39.159
<v Speaker 5>book necessarily, but it's supposed to be. You're supposed to

2034
01:36:39.159 --> 01:36:41.079
<v Speaker 5>conform your life to the Bible as best you can.

2035
01:36:41.159 --> 01:36:42.880
<v Speaker 5>But we're not going to go that way this episode.

2036
01:36:42.920 --> 01:36:46.720
<v Speaker 5>All I'm saying is that there is something for a

2037
01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:49.680
<v Speaker 5>denomination for everybody out there. Those that like to be

2038
01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:51.880
<v Speaker 5>a little more loud and a little more you know,

2039
01:36:52.000 --> 01:36:54.239
<v Speaker 5>dancing in the middle of a church service, We have

2040
01:36:54.279 --> 01:36:57.000
<v Speaker 5>a denomination for that. Those that like to be quiet

2041
01:36:57.079 --> 01:37:00.239
<v Speaker 5>and go through the order of precedence. Sit Neil in

2042
01:37:00.640 --> 01:37:03.479
<v Speaker 5>seeing some hymnals get the communion, Sit Neil Band like,

2043
01:37:03.960 --> 01:37:05.560
<v Speaker 5>did we have a denomination for that?

2044
01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:08.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm not a Catholic. I don't have hatred.

2045
01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:13.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't have hatred towards Catholicism as a denomination,

2046
01:37:14.439 --> 01:37:16.680
<v Speaker 5>but I do find it interesting. And we can do

2047
01:37:16.720 --> 01:37:18.680
<v Speaker 5>a diveal on this one day here soon if you'd like,

2048
01:37:19.319 --> 01:37:22.880
<v Speaker 5>every big name that has found Christian well, I don't

2049
01:37:22.880 --> 01:37:24.439
<v Speaker 5>want to say every There's been a few that.

2050
01:37:24.439 --> 01:37:25.920
<v Speaker 4>Have a lot.

2051
01:37:25.960 --> 01:37:27.239
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot, not all.

2052
01:37:27.399 --> 01:37:31.680
<v Speaker 5>There's been more than a handful that have found Christianity

2053
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:34.560
<v Speaker 5>or found God and found the love of Jesus Christ

2054
01:37:34.720 --> 01:37:37.920
<v Speaker 5>in other denominations, and they have had radical transformations in

2055
01:37:37.960 --> 01:37:40.920
<v Speaker 5>their life and all the things. But there seems to

2056
01:37:40.960 --> 01:37:45.640
<v Speaker 5>be a going trend like for instance, Miloianapolis right, very

2057
01:37:45.680 --> 01:37:50.239
<v Speaker 5>famously gay, very loud about so many things, and then

2058
01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:55.640
<v Speaker 5>he finds Catholicism and he divorces his husband and he's

2059
01:37:55.760 --> 01:38:01.680
<v Speaker 5>like hardcore Catholic these days, Russell Brand, cat Von, Shila Buff.

2060
01:38:02.039 --> 01:38:04.960
<v Speaker 5>There is this thing that's happening right now where the

2061
01:38:04.960 --> 01:38:09.479
<v Speaker 5>Catholic Church is actually seeing a resurgence in certain regards.

2062
01:38:09.119 --> 01:38:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Or at least they're paying actors to make it seem

2063
01:38:11.079 --> 01:38:11.399
<v Speaker 2>that way.

2064
01:38:12.560 --> 01:38:14.560
<v Speaker 4>I don't think they're paying them, but I think that

2065
01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:16.279
<v Speaker 4>they're enticing them in other ways.

2066
01:38:16.039 --> 01:38:20.720
<v Speaker 3>And blackmailing them. That's probably more likely. Actually, you think

2067
01:38:20.720 --> 01:38:23.600
<v Speaker 3>about like the people that are getting into it, they

2068
01:38:23.640 --> 01:38:26.520
<v Speaker 3>all have some kind of sketchy ass history. Mel Gibson,

2069
01:38:26.720 --> 01:38:30.680
<v Speaker 3>Shila Buff, Russell Brand, like, they all have some really

2070
01:38:30.720 --> 01:38:34.760
<v Speaker 3>sketchy history of maybe, you know, maybe the Catholic Church.

2071
01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's a Vatican, I don't know. Maybe they got

2072
01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:39.479
<v Speaker 3>some dirt and said, look, you're gonna fucking play ball

2073
01:38:39.520 --> 01:38:41.560
<v Speaker 3>with us. We're trying to bring people back to the

2074
01:38:41.560 --> 01:38:44.079
<v Speaker 3>Catholic Church. And if you don't, well, we got a

2075
01:38:44.079 --> 01:38:46.840
<v Speaker 3>couple of videos here, We got a couple of you

2076
01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:48.880
<v Speaker 3>know whatever. You know what I'm saying, Like, I think

2077
01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:51.159
<v Speaker 3>that that would be an interesting show to dive into.

2078
01:38:51.439 --> 01:38:53.199
<v Speaker 4>Actually, I think it's possible.

2079
01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:55.920
<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying that it's one hundred percent accurate or whatever,

2080
01:38:56.000 --> 01:38:58.399
<v Speaker 5>but I just I find it interesting that that is

2081
01:38:58.439 --> 01:38:59.960
<v Speaker 5>the realm that's being had.

2082
01:39:00.119 --> 01:39:02.520
<v Speaker 3>I just I like, don't buy it with Russell Brand,

2083
01:39:02.720 --> 01:39:07.279
<v Speaker 3>like that, that is the most like unlikely character to

2084
01:39:07.560 --> 01:39:10.560
<v Speaker 3>like to go from where he was to now he's

2085
01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:13.199
<v Speaker 3>Catholic and he's going to the fucking Jordan River and

2086
01:39:13.239 --> 01:39:15.840
<v Speaker 3>his fucking whitey tities and he's out there with another

2087
01:39:15.880 --> 01:39:17.640
<v Speaker 3>dude who's out there in his whitey tities and doing

2088
01:39:17.640 --> 01:39:18.640
<v Speaker 3>the whole baptism thing.

2089
01:39:18.640 --> 01:39:20.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, ah, right, dude, come on.

2090
01:39:20.640 --> 01:39:23.119
<v Speaker 5>Dude, it's on my bucket list to get baptized in

2091
01:39:23.119 --> 01:39:23.840
<v Speaker 5>the Jordan River and.

2092
01:39:23.840 --> 01:39:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Your whitey tities you don't even wear underwear.

2093
01:39:26.119 --> 01:39:27.800
<v Speaker 5>No, I do not, But no, I'm just gonna wear

2094
01:39:27.800 --> 01:39:29.600
<v Speaker 5>like a white shirt. You know, you don't have to

2095
01:39:29.640 --> 01:39:30.720
<v Speaker 5>wear just underwear.

2096
01:39:30.880 --> 01:39:33.520
<v Speaker 4>No, you gotta you gotta go full gay with it, dude. No,

2097
01:39:34.640 --> 01:39:38.199
<v Speaker 4>that would be ridiculous, isn't it. But I didn't know

2098
01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:39.800
<v Speaker 4>he was doing in white tities. I thought he had

2099
01:39:39.840 --> 01:39:41.760
<v Speaker 4>like a white like shirt or something.

2100
01:39:41.800 --> 01:39:44.479
<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen the pictures basically naked with the with

2101
01:39:44.560 --> 01:39:47.319
<v Speaker 3>the exception of the whitey tities, and the guy that

2102
01:39:47.439 --> 01:39:50.239
<v Speaker 3>was given him the baptism was also in his whitey tities.

2103
01:39:51.319 --> 01:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>It seemed ritualistic. It seems fucking ritualistic to me.

2104
01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:58.119
<v Speaker 4>Bro I mean, but baptism, like on paper, is ritualistic.

2105
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<v Speaker 4>It is, it is, But I'm saying more so than

2106
01:40:01.359 --> 01:40:02.000
<v Speaker 4>the optics.

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01:40:02.039 --> 01:40:02.439
<v Speaker 2>I think.

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01:40:03.159 --> 01:40:05.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, most of the people that I know that have

2109
01:40:05.239 --> 01:40:08.520
<v Speaker 5>gone and done that were wearing like not like a

2110
01:40:08.560 --> 01:40:10.760
<v Speaker 5>man dress or anything, but you know, wearing a white

2111
01:40:10.760 --> 01:40:13.800
<v Speaker 5>shirt and like some pants of some type or a swimsuit.

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01:40:13.840 --> 01:40:16.319
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I don't know. And we could do a

2113
01:40:16.359 --> 01:40:18.880
<v Speaker 5>deep dive on that later on. Like, and it's not

2114
01:40:18.960 --> 01:40:22.159
<v Speaker 5>just in this country. Catholicism worldwide is seeing a very

2115
01:40:22.279 --> 01:40:25.680
<v Speaker 5>large resurgence. Christianity is on the rise right now worldwide,

2116
01:40:26.520 --> 01:40:30.239
<v Speaker 5>maybe not in America, but around in Asia right now.

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01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:32.439
<v Speaker 5>That is what people are projecting is going to be

2118
01:40:32.479 --> 01:40:37.399
<v Speaker 5>the next big renaissance that happens in China, especially with

2119
01:40:37.479 --> 01:40:40.760
<v Speaker 5>the fall of g that's being projected to happen very

2120
01:40:40.960 --> 01:40:46.039
<v Speaker 5>very soon, especially because Christianity is punishable by prisonment if

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01:40:46.039 --> 01:40:50.279
<v Speaker 5>not death in China. So I mean once that gets

2122
01:40:50.319 --> 01:40:52.760
<v Speaker 5>broken out, yeah, I think it's going to see a

2123
01:40:53.039 --> 01:40:56.880
<v Speaker 5>massive resurgence over there. And because the Chinese people are

2124
01:40:56.880 --> 01:40:59.199
<v Speaker 5>so like, they're strict in order and buy the book

2125
01:40:59.239 --> 01:41:01.640
<v Speaker 5>and all these things, it would also make sense to

2126
01:41:01.640 --> 01:41:04.560
<v Speaker 5>me that Catholicism would take serious root in China.

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01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:06.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know this for a fact, though. Look at

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01:41:06.680 --> 01:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>him here in his fucking whitey tities, bro, and then

2129
01:41:08.640 --> 01:41:09.119
<v Speaker 2>you got home.

2130
01:41:09.439 --> 01:41:13.800
<v Speaker 4>I see him holding a picture. Scroll down. There's a picture. Uh,

2131
01:41:13.840 --> 01:41:15.600
<v Speaker 4>I can't find because it's it's a video.

2132
01:41:15.680 --> 01:41:17.079
<v Speaker 2>We'll pull it up one of these days.

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01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:20.199
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, like, because you can see right here they're

2134
01:41:20.239 --> 01:41:22.800
<v Speaker 3>all coming together after the baptism, and he's wearing shorts

2135
01:41:22.880 --> 01:41:25.600
<v Speaker 3>right here, right, Yeah, there's shorts, but right here in

2136
01:41:25.640 --> 01:41:27.800
<v Speaker 3>this picture he's just rocking the whitey tidies.

2137
01:41:29.279 --> 01:41:32.600
<v Speaker 4>Ah, yeah, I see it. That's weird fucking But Okay,

2138
01:41:33.039 --> 01:41:33.520
<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

2139
01:41:33.640 --> 01:41:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to think about that.

2140
01:41:35.319 --> 01:41:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I mean, I'm looking at it obviously from

2141
01:41:37.840 --> 01:41:41.680
<v Speaker 3>a bias perspective, but I'm just saying, I can't imagine,

2142
01:41:42.760 --> 01:41:45.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, being in front of the glory of God

2143
01:41:45.399 --> 01:41:49.279
<v Speaker 3>when I'm from baptizing and like you can see like

2144
01:41:49.359 --> 01:41:51.880
<v Speaker 3>my mushroom head, you know what I'm saying, that's weird.

2145
01:41:52.439 --> 01:41:54.680
<v Speaker 5>It also would makes sense that somebody would get baptized

2146
01:41:54.680 --> 01:41:57.439
<v Speaker 5>completely naked. Honestly, to me, you were born into this

2147
01:41:57.520 --> 01:42:00.640
<v Speaker 5>world without clothing. God knows your naked, you know what

2148
01:42:00.640 --> 01:42:02.159
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying. There's a whole thing in the garden eating

2149
01:42:02.159 --> 01:42:05.720
<v Speaker 5>about that and shit. But seeing when there was gonna

2150
01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:10.159
<v Speaker 5>be cameras on them, you would think that a modicum

2151
01:42:10.319 --> 01:42:13.560
<v Speaker 5>of modesty. I don't, you know, who am I to judge?

2152
01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:15.239
<v Speaker 3>We need to go back to our caveman ways and

2153
01:42:15.279 --> 01:42:16.600
<v Speaker 3>just get naked all the time.

2154
01:42:17.640 --> 01:42:20.399
<v Speaker 4>I would, But it gets cold, man, there's wintertime, and shit,

2155
01:42:21.039 --> 01:42:23.479
<v Speaker 4>you're wearing a fucking sweater as it is, homie, and

2156
01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:25.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm still cold every time it gets below sixty degrees.

2157
01:42:25.960 --> 01:42:26.560
<v Speaker 4>It's insane.

2158
01:42:26.600 --> 01:42:29.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm meant for the tropics, all right, So now let's

2159
01:42:29.359 --> 01:42:33.119
<v Speaker 3>get back over the list. Enough fucking around. Iron Man

2160
01:42:33.159 --> 01:42:35.880
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and eight. The branches involved where the US

2161
01:42:35.960 --> 01:42:40.319
<v Speaker 3>Air Force and the DoD. Iron Man may have kicked

2162
01:42:40.359 --> 01:42:43.800
<v Speaker 3>off the Marvel cinematic universe, but its roots lie in

2163
01:42:43.880 --> 01:42:47.840
<v Speaker 3>military industrial glory. The DOOD supported the film with access

2164
01:42:47.880 --> 01:42:51.600
<v Speaker 3>to fighter jets, personnel, and military bases, helping to craft

2165
01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:55.359
<v Speaker 3>Tony Stark's transformation from arms dealer to patriot hero. The

2166
01:42:55.439 --> 01:42:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Pentagon reviewed and approved script portions to ensure the the

2167
01:43:00.880 --> 01:43:04.880
<v Speaker 3>US military wasn't shown as complicit in global arms corruption.

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01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:11.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're not complicit in it whatsoever. Bullshit.

2169
01:43:11.800 --> 01:43:15.159
<v Speaker 3>They've made money from everybody. They are the Hammer, dude,

2170
01:43:15.199 --> 01:43:18.359
<v Speaker 3>that's Hammer Corporation. That is who the military industrial complex

2171
01:43:18.439 --> 01:43:19.079
<v Speaker 3>actually is.

2172
01:43:19.720 --> 01:43:25.319
<v Speaker 4>Meanwhile, Lords of War showed the corruption behind the military

2173
01:43:25.319 --> 01:43:29.199
<v Speaker 4>industrial complex and the gun running that happens. So you know, hey,

2174
01:43:29.199 --> 01:43:30.319
<v Speaker 4>what are we talking about here?

2175
01:43:30.520 --> 01:43:35.319
<v Speaker 3>The film subtly redeems American militarism. Stark's character arc suggests

2176
01:43:35.319 --> 01:43:37.560
<v Speaker 3>that US weapons are only bad when they fall into

2177
01:43:37.560 --> 01:43:41.319
<v Speaker 3>the wrong hands, and that the solution isn't disarmament but

2178
01:43:41.479 --> 01:43:45.279
<v Speaker 3>personal responsibility. Within the system. Iron Man becomes a symbol

2179
01:43:45.399 --> 01:43:49.960
<v Speaker 3>of benevolent interventionism. Yeah, interventionism.

2180
01:43:50.079 --> 01:43:51.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, is that the message?

2181
01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:53.840
<v Speaker 5>Because I thought it was that he didn't trust even

2182
01:43:53.840 --> 01:43:56.039
<v Speaker 5>our own military with the weapons. That's why he stopped

2183
01:43:56.039 --> 01:43:59.560
<v Speaker 5>manufacturing them, and he wanted to privatize world peace and

2184
01:43:59.600 --> 01:44:01.600
<v Speaker 5>be the one guy to stop at all. He went

2185
01:44:01.640 --> 01:44:04.399
<v Speaker 5>into sidestep the entirety of the US military. Maybe I

2186
01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:05.079
<v Speaker 5>missed the point.

2187
01:44:05.720 --> 01:44:08.560
<v Speaker 3>That's probably where it started to veer off script. You know,

2188
01:44:09.119 --> 01:44:11.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't necessarily make the military look like the good guys.

2189
01:44:12.760 --> 01:44:14.920
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it says iron Man becomes a symbol of

2190
01:44:15.079 --> 01:44:20.239
<v Speaker 3>benevolent interventionism, a man outside the military who still acts

2191
01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:21.760
<v Speaker 3>like it's private superhero.

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01:44:23.520 --> 01:44:26.720
<v Speaker 5>Okay, fair on the first one, I could see that,

2193
01:44:26.760 --> 01:44:28.479
<v Speaker 5>the second one not so much.

2194
01:44:28.560 --> 01:44:30.279
<v Speaker 4>Third one absolutely not at all.

2195
01:44:31.000 --> 01:44:34.039
<v Speaker 3>So shout out to Roady. It should have it should

2196
01:44:34.039 --> 01:44:37.359
<v Speaker 3>have remained Terrence Howard's role. The fact didn't want anymore

2197
01:44:37.399 --> 01:44:39.800
<v Speaker 3>he went psycho. No, he still wanted it. No, he

2198
01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:42.079
<v Speaker 3>didn't start going on to all that other shit until

2199
01:44:42.119 --> 01:44:43.199
<v Speaker 3>like a couple of years ago.

2200
01:44:44.479 --> 01:44:46.800
<v Speaker 4>That's true. He was still playing in uh what was

2201
01:44:46.840 --> 01:44:49.279
<v Speaker 4>that another show? It was like a spin off of

2202
01:44:48.479 --> 01:44:51.319
<v Speaker 4>a of a hustle and flow. He was still acting

2203
01:44:51.359 --> 01:44:53.079
<v Speaker 4>at that time. You're right, yeah he was. They gave

2204
01:44:53.119 --> 01:44:54.119
<v Speaker 4>it to Don Cheetle.

2205
01:44:54.439 --> 01:44:57.760
<v Speaker 3>He gave it to Don Cheedle, and I thought he no,

2206
01:44:57.880 --> 01:44:59.920
<v Speaker 3>he never. He was pissed that he didn't get it

2207
01:45:00.039 --> 01:45:02.239
<v Speaker 3>because they kind of like sideswiped him. He didn't even

2208
01:45:02.279 --> 01:45:03.479
<v Speaker 3>know that he wasn't going to retain it.

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01:45:04.560 --> 01:45:07.279
<v Speaker 5>Wow, Okay, you know I liked him in the role

2210
01:45:07.359 --> 01:45:09.199
<v Speaker 5>way more than Don Cheetahs punk ass.

2211
01:45:09.279 --> 01:45:12.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dude, Terrence Howard, I mean, set aside what you

2212
01:45:12.039 --> 01:45:14.199
<v Speaker 3>think about all of his spiritual shit. Seems like a

2213
01:45:14.199 --> 01:45:15.560
<v Speaker 3>fucking awesome dude to hang out with.

2214
01:45:16.159 --> 01:45:18.600
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, he'd be cool to hang with for sure.

2215
01:45:18.720 --> 01:45:21.000
<v Speaker 5>But yeah he's he's on his own.

2216
01:45:20.920 --> 01:45:21.640
<v Speaker 4>Vibe right now.

2217
01:45:22.199 --> 01:45:23.399
<v Speaker 2>I like that vibe personally.

2218
01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:27.680
<v Speaker 3>But anyhow, so to do Yeah, now we're going to

2219
01:45:28.319 --> 01:45:30.960
<v Speaker 3>And you saw like how that whole thing kind of

2220
01:45:30.960 --> 01:45:33.319
<v Speaker 3>played out played out with Iron Man and even up

2221
01:45:33.840 --> 01:45:36.079
<v Speaker 3>up with the Avengers and stuff like that. Right, Like

2222
01:45:36.960 --> 01:45:40.600
<v Speaker 3>Iron Man Tony Stark was all about like essentially like

2223
01:45:40.720 --> 01:45:44.359
<v Speaker 3>putting the planet in some kind of iron Dome kind

2224
01:45:44.399 --> 01:45:46.439
<v Speaker 3>of situation like they got ever in Israel, but like

2225
01:45:46.840 --> 01:45:51.520
<v Speaker 3>more AI and advanced technology type to perfect or to

2226
01:45:51.600 --> 01:45:54.920
<v Speaker 3>prevent from the aliens and comming and all that other

2227
01:45:54.960 --> 01:45:57.720
<v Speaker 3>shit right where you got Ultron and he's calling all

2228
01:45:57.760 --> 01:46:01.439
<v Speaker 3>these fucking other things from aliens from other planets. And

2229
01:46:01.479 --> 01:46:05.279
<v Speaker 3>so whenever those aliens came in Ironman and Tony Stark,

2230
01:46:05.319 --> 01:46:07.399
<v Speaker 3>that's why they had the whole Civil War movie between

2231
01:46:07.439 --> 01:46:12.199
<v Speaker 3>Ironman and Captain fucking America.

2232
01:46:12.199 --> 01:46:15.399
<v Speaker 4>Iron right, oh, Captain America.

2233
01:46:15.560 --> 01:46:18.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, they went through their whole thing and yeah,

2234
01:46:18.319 --> 01:46:22.800
<v Speaker 3>and it was all about like pushing military like overly,

2235
01:46:23.279 --> 01:46:26.159
<v Speaker 3>you know, overstretched as far as military security and whatnot.

2236
01:46:26.720 --> 01:46:29.960
<v Speaker 5>Do you think that maybe this whole Golden Dome conversation

2237
01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:32.119
<v Speaker 5>that Trump's wanted to get us in the same guy

2238
01:46:32.239 --> 01:46:33.760
<v Speaker 5>that created the Space Force?

2239
01:46:34.479 --> 01:46:37.560
<v Speaker 4>Are we saying there may be some little little cone shown.

2240
01:46:37.800 --> 01:46:40.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm just saying they always put it in movies

2241
01:46:40.399 --> 01:46:41.640
<v Speaker 3>before it happens in real life.

2242
01:46:41.640 --> 01:46:42.720
<v Speaker 2>That's part of the programming.

2243
01:46:43.399 --> 01:46:46.239
<v Speaker 4>Mah. I mean, hey, I'm here for it. By the way,

2244
01:46:46.319 --> 01:46:47.560
<v Speaker 4>I support the Golden Dome.

2245
01:46:47.600 --> 01:46:50.640
<v Speaker 3>I know you you and others don't think that they're

2246
01:46:50.680 --> 01:46:53.840
<v Speaker 3>doing it for karmaic reasons, but I think personally, I

2247
01:46:53.840 --> 01:46:56.119
<v Speaker 3>think it's beyond why they put it in movies. Before

2248
01:46:56.159 --> 01:46:58.079
<v Speaker 3>it comes to real life. I think it's more than

2249
01:46:58.159 --> 01:47:00.640
<v Speaker 3>just karmic reasons. That's I just think that's one of

2250
01:47:00.680 --> 01:47:03.560
<v Speaker 3>the reasons. But I think the actual main reason why

2251
01:47:03.560 --> 01:47:05.439
<v Speaker 3>they put shit in movies before it comes to real

2252
01:47:05.520 --> 01:47:08.119
<v Speaker 3>life is so that whenever it does happen in real life,

2253
01:47:08.159 --> 01:47:10.920
<v Speaker 3>people are aware that they've seen it before. You know,

2254
01:47:11.039 --> 01:47:13.560
<v Speaker 3>it's a soft launch. It's a soft launch, so that

2255
01:47:13.560 --> 01:47:13.960
<v Speaker 3>that way.

2256
01:47:14.159 --> 01:47:14.720
<v Speaker 2>Think about it.

2257
01:47:14.760 --> 01:47:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Like, you know, if it wasn't for certain alien movies,

2258
01:47:18.039 --> 01:47:20.399
<v Speaker 3>if you saw a fucking UFO up in this guy,

2259
01:47:20.399 --> 01:47:21.399
<v Speaker 3>you'd probably shit your pants.

2260
01:47:21.399 --> 01:47:22.239
<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't know what to do.

2261
01:47:22.479 --> 01:47:24.520
<v Speaker 3>But I've seen this in a movie before, so I

2262
01:47:24.520 --> 01:47:27.600
<v Speaker 3>already know, like I'm gonna act how those actors acted, right.

2263
01:47:27.680 --> 01:47:30.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, No, using it for the soft launch principle of it,

2264
01:47:30.439 --> 01:47:31.439
<v Speaker 5>I agree one hundred percent.

2265
01:47:31.800 --> 01:47:34.000
<v Speaker 4>I think that's why they released things in movies beforehand.

2266
01:47:34.039 --> 01:47:36.239
<v Speaker 5>I just me and you have disagreed on this one

2267
01:47:36.279 --> 01:47:38.680
<v Speaker 5>as far as the karmic balance of it, you know.

2268
01:47:39.439 --> 01:47:42.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's fine, but anyway, all right, let's move

2269
01:47:42.079 --> 01:47:44.199
<v Speaker 3>on to one of your favorite movies of all time.

2270
01:47:44.279 --> 01:47:47.560
<v Speaker 3>Captain Marvel came out in twenty nineteen. The branch involved

2271
01:47:47.680 --> 01:47:52.279
<v Speaker 3>was obviously the US Air Force. Marvel Studios partnered directly

2272
01:47:52.359 --> 01:47:55.039
<v Speaker 3>with the US Air Force to market Captain America as

2273
01:47:55.039 --> 01:47:58.119
<v Speaker 3>a recruitment tool for women. The Air Force provided jets

2274
01:47:58.279 --> 01:48:02.159
<v Speaker 3>training and access to female pilots as consultants. In turn,

2275
01:48:02.279 --> 01:48:06.920
<v Speaker 3>the script emphasizes female or emphasized female empowerment within the

2276
01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:10.279
<v Speaker 3>chain of command, showing that true strength comes not from

2277
01:48:10.359 --> 01:48:14.279
<v Speaker 3>rebellion rebellion, but from rising through the ranks of a system.

2278
01:48:14.600 --> 01:48:17.760
<v Speaker 3>While dressed in feminism, the underlying message is clear the

2279
01:48:17.800 --> 01:48:21.520
<v Speaker 3>military is the best path for female empowerment. The subconscious

2280
01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:26.439
<v Speaker 3>narrative isn't just girls can be heroes, but join the

2281
01:48:26.479 --> 01:48:28.479
<v Speaker 3>Air Force and become a real one.

2282
01:48:28.760 --> 01:48:31.760
<v Speaker 2>This wasn't just a movie. It was a stylish intergalactic

2283
01:48:31.960 --> 01:48:32.960
<v Speaker 2>enlistment poster.

2284
01:48:35.239 --> 01:48:37.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna fully disagree with what was said.

2285
01:48:37.880 --> 01:48:39.600
<v Speaker 3>That's what they were trying to that's what they were

2286
01:48:39.640 --> 01:48:42.079
<v Speaker 3>pushing for, not saying that that's actually what got through,

2287
01:48:42.119 --> 01:48:43.159
<v Speaker 3>but that was their goal.

2288
01:48:45.079 --> 01:48:49.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's definitely a place in the military for women,

2289
01:48:50.159 --> 01:48:52.800
<v Speaker 4>absolute one hundred percent, and you can rise through the

2290
01:48:52.840 --> 01:48:56.600
<v Speaker 4>ring structure and become whatever you're looking for. Yeah, one

2291
01:48:56.680 --> 01:49:00.560
<v Speaker 4>hundred percent. There's more than one way to do that,

2292
01:49:01.399 --> 01:49:02.079
<v Speaker 4>by the way.

2293
01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:04.840
<v Speaker 5>Like, if you, for instance, are a woman listening to

2294
01:49:04.880 --> 01:49:07.319
<v Speaker 5>the show and you're you're a young lady and you're

2295
01:49:07.319 --> 01:49:09.239
<v Speaker 5>in college and you don't know exactly what you want

2296
01:49:09.239 --> 01:49:14.159
<v Speaker 5>to go for yet. You could become an engineer and

2297
01:49:14.199 --> 01:49:17.159
<v Speaker 5>like become a good one that goes and works for

2298
01:49:17.159 --> 01:49:20.600
<v Speaker 5>one of these massive companies and makes crazy money and

2299
01:49:20.680 --> 01:49:23.880
<v Speaker 5>you surpass all of your male counterparts because you're that smart.

2300
01:49:24.319 --> 01:49:27.239
<v Speaker 5>Like that's a real possibility. Or you can go and

2301
01:49:27.279 --> 01:49:28.560
<v Speaker 5>become a brain surgeon.

2302
01:49:29.159 --> 01:49:31.359
<v Speaker 4>There's so many things out there that a woman can

2303
01:49:31.399 --> 01:49:34.880
<v Speaker 4>do that would make her seem like a hero and

2304
01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:38.000
<v Speaker 4>excel and beyond her peers and all that. Yeah, the

2305
01:49:38.079 --> 01:49:42.760
<v Speaker 4>military may be that fit for a young lady in

2306
01:49:42.800 --> 01:49:46.279
<v Speaker 4>this world, but not always. Not always. And I say

2307
01:49:46.319 --> 01:49:48.039
<v Speaker 4>the same thing about a man. It's not like, oh,

2308
01:49:48.039 --> 01:49:49.039
<v Speaker 4>you know what you need to do. You need to

2309
01:49:49.079 --> 01:49:52.479
<v Speaker 4>join the military and get your life right. Oh that's

2310
01:49:52.520 --> 01:49:55.600
<v Speaker 4>not exactly a true statement, actually, but all right.

2311
01:49:55.680 --> 01:49:57.239
<v Speaker 3>I mean a lot of the women that I've met

2312
01:49:57.279 --> 01:50:00.600
<v Speaker 3>that were, you know, in the military before, I always

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01:50:00.640 --> 01:50:03.840
<v Speaker 3>look at them like, man, you you're more badass than me, Like,

2314
01:50:04.119 --> 01:50:06.560
<v Speaker 3>you know, I get what your point is though, that

2315
01:50:06.560 --> 01:50:09.960
<v Speaker 3>that this isn't the only way, but the military wants

2316
01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:12.000
<v Speaker 3>you to think that it's one of the only ways.

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<v Speaker 5>I've met quite a number of female veterans, and I

2318
01:50:16.439 --> 01:50:18.359
<v Speaker 5>knew females while I was in now I was in

2319
01:50:18.399 --> 01:50:20.279
<v Speaker 5>an all male unit because I was in the infantry.

2320
01:50:20.359 --> 01:50:22.640
<v Speaker 5>But and this is before they allowed females to be

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01:50:22.680 --> 01:50:25.159
<v Speaker 5>in the grunts, which still blows my fucking mind.

2322
01:50:25.159 --> 01:50:28.600
<v Speaker 4>But whatever, And you know, I will say they ran

2323
01:50:28.640 --> 01:50:29.640
<v Speaker 4>the gambit. It was.

2324
01:50:29.720 --> 01:50:34.199
<v Speaker 5>It was very polarized with females in the military. The

2325
01:50:34.279 --> 01:50:38.640
<v Speaker 5>ones that were exceptional were fucking studs, They were incredible.

2326
01:50:38.960 --> 01:50:43.119
<v Speaker 4>The ones that sucked fucking sucked. Right.

2327
01:50:43.520 --> 01:50:46.279
<v Speaker 5>With men, I granted it's a boys club, right, I

2328
01:50:46.279 --> 01:50:49.680
<v Speaker 5>think it's like eighty to ninety percent male centric, so

2329
01:50:49.720 --> 01:50:52.079
<v Speaker 5>you have more of a more of a gambit to

2330
01:50:52.199 --> 01:50:54.800
<v Speaker 5>run as far as that goes. You have your star studs,

2331
01:50:54.800 --> 01:50:56.600
<v Speaker 5>you have your pieces of shit, and you have everything

2332
01:50:56.640 --> 01:50:59.680
<v Speaker 5>in between. With women, it seemed to be very much

2333
01:50:59.720 --> 01:51:02.880
<v Speaker 5>black white, very much hot or cold, very much like

2334
01:51:03.039 --> 01:51:05.800
<v Speaker 5>this person's gonna do amazing things in this branch or.

2335
01:51:05.840 --> 01:51:07.800
<v Speaker 5>This person like really needs to get the fuck out

2336
01:51:07.840 --> 01:51:08.680
<v Speaker 5>after this enlistment.

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01:51:09.079 --> 01:51:13.439
<v Speaker 3>You know, Yeah, the next movie we get to after

2338
01:51:14.000 --> 01:51:17.359
<v Speaker 3>Captain marvel Is Blackhawk Down came out in twenty two

2339
01:51:17.399 --> 01:51:20.079
<v Speaker 3>thousand and one. The branches involved with the US Army

2340
01:51:20.119 --> 01:51:23.880
<v Speaker 3>and the DoD Blackhawk Down portrays the nineteen ninety three

2341
01:51:24.000 --> 01:51:29.159
<v Speaker 3>Battle of Mogadishue Mogadishu Moga Dishu, and the Pentagon was

2342
01:51:29.159 --> 01:51:33.439
<v Speaker 3>heavily involved in production. They provided helicopters, troops, and advisors

2343
01:51:33.560 --> 01:51:36.760
<v Speaker 3>to ensure that the US soldiers were framed as valiant

2344
01:51:36.840 --> 01:51:41.840
<v Speaker 3>victims rather than imperal aggressors. Controversial aspects of the events,

2345
01:51:41.880 --> 01:51:46.319
<v Speaker 3>such as war crimes or the chaotic aftermath, were omitted entirely.

2346
01:51:46.840 --> 01:51:50.279
<v Speaker 3>The subconscious impact is the glorification of sacrifice. Even in

2347
01:51:50.319 --> 01:51:53.640
<v Speaker 3>failed missions. The enemy is faceless, often shot from a

2348
01:51:53.680 --> 01:51:56.880
<v Speaker 3>distance or in chaotic swarms, Viewers are nudged to believe

2349
01:51:57.039 --> 01:51:59.560
<v Speaker 3>that we're the good guys even when the mission fails.

2350
01:52:00.000 --> 01:52:05.199
<v Speaker 3>Heroism is in futility becomes the takeaway, not questioning why

2351
01:52:05.239 --> 01:52:06.600
<v Speaker 3>we were there in the first place.

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01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Okay, war crimes, interesting take I've done a fair amount

2353
01:52:15.840 --> 01:52:18.680
<v Speaker 4>of research into that situation outside of the movie, and like,

2354
01:52:18.760 --> 01:52:22.439
<v Speaker 4>actually what took place? There was no war crimes that

2355
01:52:22.479 --> 01:52:23.359
<v Speaker 4>I could find anything.

2356
01:52:23.359 --> 01:52:25.359
<v Speaker 5>Now, if you're gonna question why America was there in

2357
01:52:25.359 --> 01:52:27.600
<v Speaker 5>the first place is because the UN fumbled the ball

2358
01:52:27.760 --> 01:52:29.880
<v Speaker 5>so fucking hard they had to send in the Marines

2359
01:52:29.920 --> 01:52:34.119
<v Speaker 5>to like fix it. Now, you want to get mad

2360
01:52:34.159 --> 01:52:37.439
<v Speaker 5>about the Marines being there in the first place, whatever, Fine, Okay,

2361
01:52:37.560 --> 01:52:42.039
<v Speaker 5>that's an opinion. But yeah, we had dudes get taken

2362
01:52:42.119 --> 01:52:45.199
<v Speaker 5>prisoner from that and they had to go send in

2363
01:52:45.279 --> 01:52:47.479
<v Speaker 5>rescue operations to get them back.

2364
01:52:47.600 --> 01:52:47.920
<v Speaker 4>Later.

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01:52:51.159 --> 01:52:55.640
<v Speaker 5>We weren't an imperial force in Somalia that we weren't

2366
01:52:55.680 --> 01:52:58.159
<v Speaker 5>trying to take it over, even set up an outpost.

2367
01:52:58.520 --> 01:53:01.520
<v Speaker 5>There was a warlord that was start as people, and

2368
01:53:01.600 --> 01:53:03.600
<v Speaker 5>I mean there's there's all kinds of things like that.

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01:53:03.600 --> 01:53:05.960
<v Speaker 4>That's why. That's why I also get mad whenever, Like

2370
01:53:05.960 --> 01:53:08.079
<v Speaker 4>and we've talked about the Cony twenty twelve or whatever

2371
01:53:08.119 --> 01:53:11.439
<v Speaker 4>the fuck it was, it was the same thing. Where

2372
01:53:11.439 --> 01:53:12.239
<v Speaker 4>were we at.

2373
01:53:12.520 --> 01:53:15.159
<v Speaker 5>Where was the American forces that were going in to

2374
01:53:15.199 --> 01:53:17.840
<v Speaker 5>save these kids and get rid of this evil warlord?

2375
01:53:18.159 --> 01:53:20.479
<v Speaker 4>No, No, they didn't give a fuck about that.

2376
01:53:20.760 --> 01:53:22.479
<v Speaker 5>There was no reason for us to be there, so

2377
01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:24.239
<v Speaker 5>we set up sounds like a U problem, not a

2378
01:53:24.359 --> 01:53:26.439
<v Speaker 5>US problem. So I mean, yeah, we're gonna get really

2379
01:53:26.439 --> 01:53:29.680
<v Speaker 5>pissed off about the technicalities is what does and doesn't

2380
01:53:29.680 --> 01:53:32.760
<v Speaker 5>mobilize US troops. I'm with you on that, But the

2381
01:53:32.920 --> 01:53:36.319
<v Speaker 5>situation with black haw Down itself, I didn't see any

2382
01:53:36.359 --> 01:53:38.199
<v Speaker 5>signs of a war crime anywhere, to be fat as

2383
01:53:38.239 --> 01:53:40.319
<v Speaker 5>a matter of fact, that's the rules of engagement, is.

2384
01:53:40.680 --> 01:53:43.600
<v Speaker 3>That it covered up that there were war crimes. They

2385
01:53:43.640 --> 01:53:44.880
<v Speaker 3>completely omitted them.

2386
01:53:45.560 --> 01:53:48.039
<v Speaker 5>I'm saying, whenever I did research into it, I couldn't

2387
01:53:48.039 --> 01:53:49.439
<v Speaker 5>find anything about war crimes.

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01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:52.159
<v Speaker 3>Well it's I just pulled it up. So the nineteen

2389
01:53:52.239 --> 01:53:55.359
<v Speaker 3>ninety three Battle of Mogadishu war crimes. It says the

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01:53:55.600 --> 01:53:59.319
<v Speaker 3>Battle of Mogadishu in nineteen ninety three involves significant civilian

2391
01:53:59.359 --> 01:54:03.359
<v Speaker 3>casualty and raised concerns about potential war crimes, particularly the

2392
01:54:03.640 --> 01:54:07.319
<v Speaker 3>particularly due to the actions of US forces and Somalia

2393
01:54:07.560 --> 01:54:12.199
<v Speaker 3>or Somali militious The aftermath saw accusations of excessive force

2394
01:54:12.279 --> 01:54:16.279
<v Speaker 3>and disregard for civilian safety, contributing to a complex legacy

2395
01:54:16.319 --> 01:54:17.039
<v Speaker 3>of the conflict.

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01:54:17.760 --> 01:54:21.279
<v Speaker 4>So that would be the war crimes civilian casualties.

2397
01:54:21.479 --> 01:54:24.720
<v Speaker 5>That's a interesting So you mean, like in a conflict

2398
01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:28.239
<v Speaker 5>zone there was civilians that were killed.

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01:54:29.800 --> 01:54:32.039
<v Speaker 2>In excessive amounts. I think it's what they're trying to say.

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01:54:32.239 --> 01:54:34.119
<v Speaker 5>And they're saying that that was done by us, not

2401
01:54:34.199 --> 01:54:36.319
<v Speaker 5>the fact that they were killing their own people. The

2402
01:54:36.359 --> 01:54:38.640
<v Speaker 5>warlord was starving his own people, they were using them

2403
01:54:38.640 --> 01:54:41.279
<v Speaker 5>as human shields, all these things. But yeah, that was

2404
01:54:41.720 --> 01:54:44.319
<v Speaker 5>Americans that killed too many civilians.

2405
01:54:44.399 --> 01:54:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Okay, you realized like they.

2406
01:54:45.760 --> 01:54:48.199
<v Speaker 5>Had nine year olds with fully automatic weapons that were

2407
01:54:48.199 --> 01:54:49.199
<v Speaker 5>firing at our guys.

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01:54:50.199 --> 01:54:52.800
<v Speaker 4>Like, what are we fucking talking about here? Now? I'm

2409
01:54:52.800 --> 01:54:54.359
<v Speaker 4>not saying this at you. I'm saying that the people

2410
01:54:54.359 --> 01:54:58.159
<v Speaker 4>that are gonna make these accusations like, Okay, what.

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01:54:58.720 --> 01:55:01.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna pull a Jacobism and just say I don't

2412
01:55:01.039 --> 01:55:05.600
<v Speaker 3>be knowing. I'd just be Jonathan heard that. Fucking heard that, dude.

2413
01:55:06.159 --> 01:55:08.800
<v Speaker 5>But yes, yeah, they're gonna do what they can to

2414
01:55:08.840 --> 01:55:11.039
<v Speaker 5>put the American forces in the best life possible.

2415
01:55:11.079 --> 01:55:12.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm not denying that.

2416
01:55:11.920 --> 01:55:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Either, right right obviously, Like if you're you know, uh,

2417
01:55:16.800 --> 01:55:19.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of supplying all the money and all of the

2418
01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:24.199
<v Speaker 3>military equipment, you're not going to put in the spot

2419
01:55:24.199 --> 01:55:25.239
<v Speaker 3>where you drop the ball.

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01:55:25.439 --> 01:55:25.680
<v Speaker 4>Right.

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01:55:26.279 --> 01:55:28.720
<v Speaker 5>There's very few movies that I can think of that

2422
01:55:29.199 --> 01:55:34.199
<v Speaker 5>tried to show the reality of it and even showing

2423
01:55:34.199 --> 01:55:39.079
<v Speaker 5>you the ugly bits you ever heard of the movie Platoon, Yeah,

2424
01:55:39.640 --> 01:55:41.800
<v Speaker 5>Vietnam movie, right, Charlie Sheen was in it when he

2425
01:55:41.840 --> 01:55:44.600
<v Speaker 5>was early, William Dafolk was in. As a matter of fact,

2426
01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:47.840
<v Speaker 5>Force Whittaker was actually a lot of stars, A lot

2427
01:55:47.840 --> 01:55:52.159
<v Speaker 5>of stars were in this movie that showed the Vietnam War.

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01:55:52.439 --> 01:55:54.640
<v Speaker 5>And yes, I understand it was fictitious and all this

2429
01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:58.600
<v Speaker 5>ba ba bab. It showed some Americans that were doing

2430
01:55:58.600 --> 01:56:01.439
<v Speaker 5>the right thing, and it showed some Americans that were

2431
01:56:01.520 --> 01:56:05.840
<v Speaker 5>absolutely doing the wrong thing, and that wasn't being done

2432
01:56:05.880 --> 01:56:06.960
<v Speaker 5>as a recruitment tool.

2433
01:56:07.439 --> 01:56:08.600
<v Speaker 4>You see what I'm saying.

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01:56:08.840 --> 01:56:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Right right, Well, and that's the thing. Whenever you're funded.

2435
01:56:11.960 --> 01:56:14.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that every single war movie ever created

2436
01:56:14.800 --> 01:56:16.960
<v Speaker 3>was funded by the d D or anything, and maybe

2437
01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:18.479
<v Speaker 3>that's a good example of one that wasn't.

2438
01:56:19.000 --> 01:56:21.960
<v Speaker 5>But they also were using Huey's, they were using military equipment,

2439
01:56:22.000 --> 01:56:23.720
<v Speaker 5>they were using all of these things. And like I

2440
01:56:23.760 --> 01:56:25.840
<v Speaker 5>could understand that they did in fact have a little

2441
01:56:25.840 --> 01:56:29.039
<v Speaker 5>bit of some liaisons or some uh you know, funding

2442
01:56:29.119 --> 01:56:31.840
<v Speaker 5>from or or the approval of the d D for

2443
01:56:31.920 --> 01:56:34.600
<v Speaker 5>certain sections of it, But I don't know. At the

2444
01:56:34.600 --> 01:56:36.439
<v Speaker 5>same time, if that was the case, I don't know

2445
01:56:36.439 --> 01:56:38.199
<v Speaker 5>if the d D would have signed off on every

2446
01:56:38.239 --> 01:56:41.239
<v Speaker 5>aspect of it because like, uh, fuck, I forget the

2447
01:56:41.279 --> 01:56:43.680
<v Speaker 5>actor's name all do with a cleft lip that played

2448
01:56:43.680 --> 01:56:47.960
<v Speaker 5>in Sniper. He the guy who ended up killing William

2449
01:56:48.000 --> 01:56:53.239
<v Speaker 5>Dafoe's character in it. But he he or Shooter, not Sniper.

2450
01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:56.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah no, it was Sniper. Yeah, Shooter was Marky Mark No,

2451
01:56:56.159 --> 01:57:00.600
<v Speaker 5>this is the movie Sniper. He was a asid piece

2452
01:57:00.600 --> 01:57:03.359
<v Speaker 5>of shit and he was the reason why William Dafoe's character,

2453
01:57:03.399 --> 01:57:06.079
<v Speaker 5>who was an American soldier, was left and ended up

2454
01:57:06.079 --> 01:57:08.840
<v Speaker 5>getting got later on. I have a hard time believing

2455
01:57:08.840 --> 01:57:10.239
<v Speaker 5>the DD would have signed off on that.

2456
01:57:10.279 --> 01:57:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Are you talking about Luke Grimes or Joaquin Phoenix?

2457
01:57:15.159 --> 01:57:18.399
<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, not Joaquin Phoenix. Look up the movie Shooter.

2458
01:57:19.039 --> 01:57:21.359
<v Speaker 5>He arned a sniper. Excuse me, Sniper. He was the

2459
01:57:21.399 --> 01:57:23.239
<v Speaker 5>main character in that movie. And as soon as you

2460
01:57:23.279 --> 01:57:25.960
<v Speaker 5>see his face, you're gonna know him. He played in

2461
01:57:26.000 --> 01:57:31.039
<v Speaker 5>The Big Chill. Uh, he played in Fuck, He's played

2462
01:57:31.039 --> 01:57:32.479
<v Speaker 5>in a bunch of movies.

2463
01:57:33.159 --> 01:57:34.640
<v Speaker 4>Cannot remember his name.

2464
01:57:34.800 --> 01:57:37.760
<v Speaker 2>Tom Behringer, Yeah, okay.

2465
01:57:38.039 --> 01:57:38.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's the guy.

2466
01:57:38.840 --> 01:57:41.479
<v Speaker 5>So I mean, his character is the reason why William Dafoe,

2467
01:57:41.760 --> 01:57:45.520
<v Speaker 5>an American soldier, shot in another American soldier and then

2468
01:57:45.640 --> 01:57:47.560
<v Speaker 5>left him to die and then he actually made it

2469
01:57:47.600 --> 01:57:50.840
<v Speaker 5>back to the chopper, that whole that tragic scene with

2470
01:57:50.880 --> 01:57:53.600
<v Speaker 5>one of the best musical scores in cinematic history in

2471
01:57:53.640 --> 01:57:54.199
<v Speaker 5>my opinion.

2472
01:57:54.279 --> 01:57:56.920
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, so that's what I'm saying. It kind of made.

2473
01:57:57.000 --> 01:57:58.880
<v Speaker 5>And then they had the whole scene where those soldiers

2474
01:57:58.880 --> 01:58:01.720
<v Speaker 5>were trying to rap those Vietnamese women. Charlie Sheen's character

2475
01:58:01.800 --> 01:58:03.319
<v Speaker 5>goes in and tries to stop them, and it's a

2476
01:58:03.319 --> 01:58:06.039
<v Speaker 5>whole thing. I have a hard time believing that that

2477
01:58:06.279 --> 01:58:07.960
<v Speaker 5>was signed off on by the do O D.

2478
01:58:08.159 --> 01:58:10.840
<v Speaker 4>But maybe it was. I don't know.

2479
01:58:12.399 --> 01:58:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Mg Y Sgt. Is that Master Gunny sergeant.

2480
01:58:16.720 --> 01:58:17.960
<v Speaker 4>Master gunnery sergeant? Yeah?

2481
01:58:18.640 --> 01:58:21.439
<v Speaker 3>Is it gunnery? I always, I always, I hear it

2482
01:58:21.479 --> 01:58:23.079
<v Speaker 3>both ways, gunny or gunnery.

2483
01:58:23.680 --> 01:58:28.239
<v Speaker 5>Well, so gunny is short for gunnery sergeant, but the

2484
01:58:28.319 --> 01:58:30.239
<v Speaker 5>technical term is gunnery sergeant.

2485
01:58:30.239 --> 01:58:33.319
<v Speaker 2>And then above with the Marine Corps.

2486
01:58:33.159 --> 01:58:36.880
<v Speaker 4>Ranks, gunny is an East seven and then after.

2487
01:58:36.680 --> 01:58:38.399
<v Speaker 5>That when you go to E eight, it splits off

2488
01:58:38.399 --> 01:58:40.760
<v Speaker 5>in until you have master sergeant and you have a

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01:58:41.039 --> 01:58:44.880
<v Speaker 5>sergeant first class. The master sergeant has two rifles in

2490
01:58:44.920 --> 01:58:47.119
<v Speaker 5>the middle. Sergeant first class is a diamond in the middle.

2491
01:58:47.359 --> 01:58:50.920
<v Speaker 5>Sergeant first class or is a or first sergeant.

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01:58:50.960 --> 01:58:53.479
<v Speaker 4>Excuse me. First sergeant is more of the administrative roles.

2493
01:58:53.520 --> 01:58:56.119
<v Speaker 5>Like each company will have a company first sergeant, and

2494
01:58:56.199 --> 01:58:58.800
<v Speaker 5>you'll have a battalion first sargeant or something like that.

2495
01:58:59.199 --> 01:59:00.560
<v Speaker 4>Above that is sarge major.

2496
01:59:00.640 --> 01:59:03.560
<v Speaker 5>You'll have a base sergeant major, you'll have a you know,

2497
01:59:03.720 --> 01:59:08.039
<v Speaker 5>regimental sergeant, these types of things. Master sergeant and master

2498
01:59:08.079 --> 01:59:11.680
<v Speaker 5>gunnery sergeants are dudes that stayed in their field, not

2499
01:59:11.840 --> 01:59:14.520
<v Speaker 5>to the administrative role. But and there's only so many

2500
01:59:14.600 --> 01:59:17.079
<v Speaker 5>moss that even have those ranks as a matter of fact,

2501
01:59:17.479 --> 01:59:20.680
<v Speaker 5>So a master gun's got a bursting bomb in his rank,

2502
01:59:21.000 --> 01:59:24.199
<v Speaker 5>and yeah, they're pretty much seen as subject matter experts

2503
01:59:24.239 --> 01:59:26.000
<v Speaker 5>in their field, whatever that field may be.

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01:59:27.239 --> 01:59:29.039
<v Speaker 3>This is why I wanted to do this show today

2505
01:59:29.079 --> 01:59:31.680
<v Speaker 3>because I knew that you would know all this terminology.

2506
01:59:31.680 --> 01:59:33.720
<v Speaker 3>I knew that you would see you've seen most of

2507
01:59:33.720 --> 01:59:36.159
<v Speaker 3>these movies to be able to like depict them in

2508
01:59:36.199 --> 01:59:37.560
<v Speaker 3>the way that they need to be.

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01:59:38.720 --> 01:59:39.640
<v Speaker 2>So that's pretty cool.

2510
01:59:39.720 --> 01:59:39.880
<v Speaker 4>You know.

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01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:43.399
<v Speaker 3>What's interesting is is that this show was destined to

2512
01:59:43.479 --> 01:59:46.039
<v Speaker 3>have a marine on it because even hat like my

2513
01:59:46.119 --> 01:59:47.560
<v Speaker 3>original co host was a marine.

2514
01:59:48.079 --> 01:59:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah that's true, that's true. It just kind of works

2515
01:59:50.920 --> 01:59:51.680
<v Speaker 4>out that way, brother.

2516
01:59:52.159 --> 01:59:52.920
<v Speaker 2>It was destiny.

2517
01:59:54.520 --> 01:59:57.319
<v Speaker 3>Nextly, We Have Lone Survivor came out in twenty thirteen.

2518
01:59:57.359 --> 01:59:59.800
<v Speaker 3>The branches involved with the US Navy, the Navy Seals,

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<v Speaker 3>and the DoD This film is based on Marcus Lttrell's

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<v Speaker 3>real accounts of a failed seal mission in Afghanistan, and

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02:00:06.439 --> 02:00:09.640
<v Speaker 3>the US Navy was deeply embedded in its production. Navy

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02:00:09.680 --> 02:00:14.239
<v Speaker 3>Seals consulted on the combat choreography, and the Department of

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<v Speaker 3>Defense worked with the filmmakers to ensure that the portrayal

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<v Speaker 3>of soldiers emphasized honor, bravery, and brotherhood even in the

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02:00:21.319 --> 02:00:25.760
<v Speaker 3>face of death. The military's presence on set wasn't just logistical,

2526
02:00:25.880 --> 02:00:29.680
<v Speaker 3>it was editorial at a subconscious level. Lone Survivor evokes

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02:00:29.680 --> 02:00:34.159
<v Speaker 3>themes of loyalty over logic. The enemy is again mostly faceless,

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02:00:34.199 --> 02:00:37.600
<v Speaker 3>with no political nuance or backstory, and the takeaway is

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<v Speaker 3>America's warriors are superhuman patriots, betrayed only by the terrain

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02:00:42.680 --> 02:00:46.319
<v Speaker 3>or bad luck, not poor planning or questionable motives. It

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02:00:46.399 --> 02:00:51.640
<v Speaker 3>reinforces the never questioned the mission mentality just praise the troops.

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<v Speaker 5>Damn So that being said, Marcus Latrell has also been

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02:01:00.079 --> 02:01:05.359
<v Speaker 5>and heavily heavily scrutinized for some of the things that

2534
02:01:05.479 --> 02:01:07.399
<v Speaker 5>was in that movie. As a matter of fact, I'm

2535
02:01:07.439 --> 02:01:09.079
<v Speaker 5>go ahead and share the screen again. We got a

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<v Speaker 5>little short clip talking about Marcus Latrol being exposed.

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<v Speaker 4>This isn't Jacob.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not saying this, but he even admitted that Loan

2539
02:01:18.560 --> 02:01:21.680
<v Speaker 5>Survivor was fabricated by the US Navy four recruitment. Those

2540
02:01:21.720 --> 02:01:24.520
<v Speaker 5>are his words, not Jacob's. Okay, so like we're just

2541
02:01:24.560 --> 02:01:27.319
<v Speaker 5>gonna keep it. One thought, Wow, that's a fact.

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<v Speaker 10>He started screaming my name. He was like, Marcus Man,

2543
02:01:29.880 --> 02:01:32.600
<v Speaker 10>you gotta help me. I need help Marcus. That it

2544
02:01:32.720 --> 02:01:36.039
<v Speaker 10>got so intense that I actually put my weapon down

2545
02:01:36.079 --> 02:01:39.159
<v Speaker 10>and covered my ears because I couldn't stand to hear

2546
02:01:39.239 --> 02:01:41.319
<v Speaker 10>him die. All I want him to do is start

2547
02:01:41.359 --> 02:01:43.880
<v Speaker 10>screaming my name. They killed him, and I put my

2548
02:01:43.920 --> 02:01:46.159
<v Speaker 10>webon down in a gunfight while my best friend was

2549
02:01:46.159 --> 02:01:48.520
<v Speaker 10>getting killed. So that pretty much makes me a.

2550
02:01:48.439 --> 02:01:49.119
<v Speaker 4>Coward, you know.

2551
02:01:49.199 --> 02:01:52.279
<v Speaker 7>Even in his own words on Anderson Cooper he says

2552
02:01:52.720 --> 02:01:56.319
<v Speaker 7>that he heard Murph yelling his name that he needs help.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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02:01:56.640 --> 02:01:59.760
<v Speaker 7>On Anderson Cooper Live, I put my gun down, covered

2555
02:01:59.800 --> 02:02:02.600
<v Speaker 7>up my and I quit right then, I'm a coward.

2556
02:02:02.720 --> 02:02:05.880
<v Speaker 7>He left his buddies and quit and ran, So he

2557
02:02:06.039 --> 02:02:09.279
<v Speaker 7>wasn't in this dire straits and he wasn't crawling for

2558
02:02:09.319 --> 02:02:11.800
<v Speaker 7>seven miles like in the book. In the movie, this

2559
02:02:11.840 --> 02:02:14.279
<v Speaker 7>book was written for him to change the narrative because

2560
02:02:14.279 --> 02:02:15.439
<v Speaker 7>it was embarrassing for us.

2561
02:02:15.720 --> 02:02:17.920
<v Speaker 4>He was given an ultimatum, just like, do you.

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02:02:17.840 --> 02:02:20.319
<v Speaker 7>Want to be known as the seal who quit running

2563
02:02:20.319 --> 02:02:23.439
<v Speaker 7>away and left his buddies or do you want to

2564
02:02:23.479 --> 02:02:26.039
<v Speaker 7>be a millionaire? And he chose that I'm going to

2565
02:02:26.119 --> 02:02:26.800
<v Speaker 7>be a millionaire.

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02:02:27.239 --> 02:02:28.000
<v Speaker 10>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>So again, I'm not trying to throw shade. I wasn't

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02:02:32.039 --> 02:02:35.079
<v Speaker 5>there straight like I met if I ever met Marcus

2569
02:02:35.119 --> 02:02:36.960
<v Speaker 5>Latreull in person, Like, It's not like I would have

2570
02:02:37.000 --> 02:02:40.399
<v Speaker 5>any disrespect to throw his way. Okay, but that being said,

2571
02:02:41.399 --> 02:02:45.199
<v Speaker 5>he even admitted in multiple podcasts that the entire story

2572
02:02:45.479 --> 02:02:50.039
<v Speaker 5>was basically written for him and he has fucked up

2573
02:02:50.079 --> 02:02:52.600
<v Speaker 5>on a couple of interviews and said things that go

2574
02:02:52.680 --> 02:02:55.039
<v Speaker 5>against what the book and movie said.

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<v Speaker 4>Tommy, take that for what you want.

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02:02:57.439 --> 02:03:02.720
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that is crazy. They they literally changed the entire story,

2577
02:03:03.640 --> 02:03:05.720
<v Speaker 2>not the entirety.

2578
02:03:05.880 --> 02:03:08.760
<v Speaker 5>There's sections of it that they kept true according to

2579
02:03:08.920 --> 02:03:09.880
<v Speaker 5>the research that I've.

2580
02:03:09.720 --> 02:03:10.119
<v Speaker 4>Done on it.

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02:03:10.199 --> 02:03:13.159
<v Speaker 5>Okay, like yes, they absolutely did catch those kids or

2582
02:03:13.199 --> 02:03:15.479
<v Speaker 5>the boy or whatever that was herding goats or whatever

2583
02:03:15.560 --> 02:03:18.800
<v Speaker 5>the case was, and they did let him go, which

2584
02:03:18.880 --> 02:03:22.199
<v Speaker 5>did kickstart all the bad stuff. The guys that got

2585
02:03:22.199 --> 02:03:25.399
<v Speaker 5>got they in the order of which they fell, that

2586
02:03:25.479 --> 02:03:25.960
<v Speaker 5>kind of thing.

2587
02:03:26.039 --> 02:03:28.640
<v Speaker 4>I think they kept this true to form, how.

2588
02:03:28.520 --> 02:03:31.439
<v Speaker 5>He got out of there, the locals that helped him

2589
02:03:31.520 --> 02:03:35.399
<v Speaker 5>escape and all this, like, yes, that that played out

2590
02:03:35.680 --> 02:03:40.600
<v Speaker 5>similar to the story. But again there's there's controversy start

2591
02:03:40.600 --> 02:03:43.199
<v Speaker 5>to finish basically, and that only has come out years

2592
02:03:43.359 --> 02:03:46.680
<v Speaker 5>after the fact. Same with Tim Kennedy, Right, he's all

2593
02:03:46.720 --> 02:03:48.880
<v Speaker 5>over the news and he's seeing as always a Green Beret,

2594
02:03:49.000 --> 02:03:51.079
<v Speaker 5>he did this and this. There's one story he's got

2595
02:03:51.079 --> 02:03:53.399
<v Speaker 5>where he had like thirty hand grenades in a bag

2596
02:03:53.439 --> 02:03:55.279
<v Speaker 5>and he was just going, he was just throwing him everywhere.

2597
02:03:55.319 --> 02:03:58.560
<v Speaker 5>But Pump and people that were on the operation with

2598
02:03:58.680 --> 02:04:00.880
<v Speaker 5>him have come forward and said, you are so full

2599
02:04:00.920 --> 02:04:03.680
<v Speaker 5>of shit. You weren't even in the location that you

2600
02:04:03.720 --> 02:04:06.640
<v Speaker 5>said you were when this took place. You never had

2601
02:04:06.680 --> 02:04:09.039
<v Speaker 5>a bag with thirty fucking handger needs.

2602
02:04:08.760 --> 02:04:09.720
<v Speaker 4>And that's bullshit.

2603
02:04:09.840 --> 02:04:14.359
<v Speaker 5>And it's yeah, man, that's a part of it. And

2604
02:04:14.399 --> 02:04:18.159
<v Speaker 5>this is not Jacob throwing shade. This is them saying

2605
02:04:18.279 --> 02:04:20.720
<v Speaker 5>things that they got caught up in after the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just looking up it was Loan like, obviously

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02:04:25.960 --> 02:04:28.960
<v Speaker 3>these movies are as we would know them based on

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02:04:29.039 --> 02:04:32.920
<v Speaker 3>true stories, right, based on yeah, right, And that's what

2610
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<v Speaker 3>I just typed in. I was like, was Loan Survivor

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02:04:35.119 --> 02:04:37.279
<v Speaker 3>based on a true story? It says, yes, Loan Survivor

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02:04:37.359 --> 02:04:39.479
<v Speaker 3>is based on the true story of Operation Red Wings,

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02:04:39.720 --> 02:04:42.479
<v Speaker 3>failed Navy seal mission. So then I was like, you

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02:04:42.520 --> 02:04:45.119
<v Speaker 3>know what, I wonder what percentage of a movie has

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02:04:45.239 --> 02:04:47.319
<v Speaker 3>to be true to be based on a true story.

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02:04:48.960 --> 02:04:52.039
<v Speaker 3>It says there's no legal or official percentage of truth

2617
02:04:52.079 --> 02:04:54.479
<v Speaker 3>required for a movie to claim that it's based on

2618
02:04:54.560 --> 02:04:58.039
<v Speaker 3>a true story. The phrase is incredibly flexible and often

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02:04:58.159 --> 02:05:01.199
<v Speaker 3>use more as a marketing tool than a factual guarantee.

2620
02:05:01.520 --> 02:05:05.239
<v Speaker 3>So based on a true story versus inspired by true

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02:05:05.279 --> 02:05:06.319
<v Speaker 3>events kind of shit.

2622
02:05:06.439 --> 02:05:08.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, based on.

2623
02:05:08.239 --> 02:05:10.840
<v Speaker 3>A true story suggests that the core narrative of the

2624
02:05:10.880 --> 02:05:15.359
<v Speaker 3>main character or events actually happened, and inspired by true

2625
02:05:15.399 --> 02:05:20.680
<v Speaker 3>events allow for much more creative license. Maybe just one

2626
02:05:20.800 --> 02:05:24.079
<v Speaker 3>event or idea sparked the whole movie, so there's not

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02:05:24.199 --> 02:05:27.680
<v Speaker 3>any set percentage. It says studios aren't required to meet

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02:05:27.720 --> 02:05:31.039
<v Speaker 3>a specific threshold like fifty one percent factual accuracy to

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02:05:31.119 --> 02:05:34.079
<v Speaker 3>use the label. Some movies might be ninety percent true

2630
02:05:34.079 --> 02:05:36.399
<v Speaker 3>to the real story, while others might be only ten

2631
02:05:36.439 --> 02:05:39.600
<v Speaker 3>percent accurate, with characters, timelines, or outcomes changed for the

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02:05:40.159 --> 02:05:40.960
<v Speaker 3>dramatic effect.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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02:05:42.840 --> 02:05:45.159
<v Speaker 3>Then it goes into certain examples of this. So the

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02:05:45.199 --> 02:05:49.399
<v Speaker 3>Texas Chainsaw Massacre was marketed as based on a true story,

2636
02:05:49.600 --> 02:05:53.640
<v Speaker 3>but it was very loosely inspired by ed Gain Gain Gain,

2637
02:05:53.680 --> 02:05:57.039
<v Speaker 3>how do you say that? Again, more fiction than fact.

2638
02:05:57.279 --> 02:05:59.159
<v Speaker 3>Another one is Catching Me If you Can. That's a

2639
02:05:59.199 --> 02:06:02.199
<v Speaker 3>really good movie, but Catch Me if you Can is

2640
02:06:02.279 --> 02:06:06.560
<v Speaker 3>more faithful to Frank Abagnail's real life, though still dramatized

2641
02:06:06.600 --> 02:06:09.680
<v Speaker 3>in parts. And then you got the conjuring claims to

2642
02:06:09.720 --> 02:06:12.279
<v Speaker 3>be based on true events, but many details are highly

2643
02:06:12.279 --> 02:06:13.800
<v Speaker 3>disputed or unverifiable.

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02:06:13.880 --> 02:06:18.439
<v Speaker 5>Obviously, think about this. Pearl Harbor is based on true events.

2645
02:06:19.119 --> 02:06:22.119
<v Speaker 5>The Japanese did attack Pearl Harbor, that did take place.

2646
02:06:22.600 --> 02:06:25.760
<v Speaker 5>All this shit would Ben Afleck and his love interests

2647
02:06:25.800 --> 02:06:27.840
<v Speaker 5>and all this other shit that's not true.

2648
02:06:28.279 --> 02:06:30.640
<v Speaker 2>But that's like the entirety of the movie.

2649
02:06:30.720 --> 02:06:35.840
<v Speaker 5>Like the actual attack itself is the antagonist if you will.

2650
02:06:36.199 --> 02:06:38.439
<v Speaker 4>But that's not like what the movie was about.

2651
02:06:39.319 --> 02:06:40.119
<v Speaker 2>You see what I'm saying.

2652
02:06:40.159 --> 02:06:43.279
<v Speaker 4>It's but it's still classified as based on true events,

2653
02:06:43.600 --> 02:06:46.119
<v Speaker 4>so it's yeah, it's very murky, very very murky.

2654
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<v Speaker 3>Nextly, we have ACTI Valor came out in twenty twelve.

2655
02:06:49.479 --> 02:06:52.279
<v Speaker 3>The branch involved was the US Navy Seals. Act of

2656
02:06:52.359 --> 02:06:55.840
<v Speaker 3>Valor blurred the line between fiction and reality. It was

2657
02:06:55.920 --> 02:06:59.840
<v Speaker 3>shot with real Navy Seals playing themselves. This wasn't just

2658
02:07:00.039 --> 02:07:03.960
<v Speaker 3>military approved, it was military produced. The Navy used the

2659
02:07:03.960 --> 02:07:07.279
<v Speaker 3>film as a recruitment tool in demonstration of elite training.

2660
02:07:07.479 --> 02:07:10.159
<v Speaker 3>It's not a story about war. It's one hundred and

2661
02:07:10.239 --> 02:07:13.720
<v Speaker 3>ten minute live action promotional video for the Seals, complete

2662
02:07:13.760 --> 02:07:17.640
<v Speaker 3>with missions gear and patriotic sound bites. Subconsciously, the film

2663
02:07:17.680 --> 02:07:21.520
<v Speaker 3>is almost hypnotic. The lack of character development or emotion

2664
02:07:21.960 --> 02:07:25.239
<v Speaker 3>and the Seals isn't a flaw. It's the point. They're

2665
02:07:25.279 --> 02:07:30.079
<v Speaker 3>portrayed as emotionless efficient machines of justice. The message the

2666
02:07:30.159 --> 02:07:34.640
<v Speaker 3>message is emotion Cloud's duty. The clear intent was to

2667
02:07:34.720 --> 02:07:38.199
<v Speaker 3>recruit young men who fantasize about joining an elite force

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02:07:38.479 --> 02:07:42.640
<v Speaker 3>and to deify the military ideal of total discipline and sacrifice.

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02:07:43.359 --> 02:07:44.039
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 5>So with that being said, the missions that were on

2671
02:07:48.439 --> 02:07:52.279
<v Speaker 5>that movie are based off of real missions, right, and

2672
02:07:52.319 --> 02:07:56.039
<v Speaker 5>these are things that can be maybe not fully disclosed about,

2673
02:07:56.039 --> 02:07:58.479
<v Speaker 5>like the actual locations of the actual bad guys or

2674
02:07:58.479 --> 02:07:59.319
<v Speaker 5>any of these things.

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02:07:59.319 --> 02:07:59.880
<v Speaker 4>That's fine.

2676
02:08:00.560 --> 02:08:03.720
<v Speaker 5>But as far as like finding a bomb maker who

2677
02:08:03.760 --> 02:08:06.640
<v Speaker 5>was trying to do a terrorist plot in America, like that,

2678
02:08:06.640 --> 02:08:09.399
<v Speaker 5>that is a real operation that did take place, right, cool,

2679
02:08:09.520 --> 02:08:09.920
<v Speaker 5>got it?

2680
02:08:10.760 --> 02:08:15.479
<v Speaker 4>Using actual seals as the actors a bit of a

2681
02:08:15.479 --> 02:08:19.359
<v Speaker 4>big swing and a miss because they sucked like it

2682
02:08:19.439 --> 02:08:22.279
<v Speaker 4>sounded like they were literally reading their lines off of paper,

2683
02:08:22.640 --> 02:08:26.159
<v Speaker 4>lights camera action, reading my lines off of paper like

2684
02:08:26.199 --> 02:08:29.079
<v Speaker 4>there was no there was no actual emotion with it.

2685
02:08:29.119 --> 02:08:31.000
<v Speaker 4>And like I understand that. They may say that was

2686
02:08:31.039 --> 02:08:35.439
<v Speaker 4>the point, dude. Mixing in some actors would have made

2687
02:08:35.439 --> 02:08:38.840
<v Speaker 4>the movie go so much better by all sense, but

2688
02:08:38.920 --> 02:08:41.239
<v Speaker 4>they just they didn't do that, And this is what

2689
02:08:41.319 --> 02:08:42.880
<v Speaker 4>you do. This is what you get when you don't

2690
02:08:43.000 --> 02:08:47.319
<v Speaker 4>use actors for acting. They were just memorizing lines and

2691
02:08:47.359 --> 02:08:49.399
<v Speaker 4>repeating them and like that was a thing and that

2692
02:08:49.479 --> 02:08:53.239
<v Speaker 4>it's it's okay, but yeah, it was based off of

2693
02:08:53.840 --> 02:08:57.920
<v Speaker 4>things that took place, operations that they could disclose for

2694
02:08:57.920 --> 02:08:59.039
<v Speaker 4>for the most part anyway.

2695
02:09:00.680 --> 02:09:05.439
<v Speaker 5>And yeah, so here's here's my problem with it. You're

2696
02:09:05.479 --> 02:09:09.199
<v Speaker 5>trying to recruit guys to join the Navy Seals. Okay

2697
02:09:09.279 --> 02:09:15.000
<v Speaker 5>with that, The recent study showed that seventy percent of

2698
02:09:15.079 --> 02:09:19.159
<v Speaker 5>military aged males in this country couldn't make it in

2699
02:09:19.199 --> 02:09:22.920
<v Speaker 5>the military if they wanted to, because they are overweight,

2700
02:09:23.520 --> 02:09:27.079
<v Speaker 5>because they have some sort of chemical imbalance, because they're

2701
02:09:27.159 --> 02:09:31.520
<v Speaker 5>problems something some they're on the spectrum in some way

2702
02:09:31.840 --> 02:09:35.880
<v Speaker 5>whatever you want to call it, well that or it's

2703
02:09:35.880 --> 02:09:37.800
<v Speaker 5>just people that are claiming that they have X, Y

2704
02:09:37.840 --> 02:09:40.600
<v Speaker 5>and Z. I have anxiety issues and I have since

2705
02:09:40.640 --> 02:09:44.039
<v Speaker 5>I was four, and it's like, well, you can't join

2706
02:09:44.039 --> 02:09:45.760
<v Speaker 5>the military, but I really wanna.

2707
02:09:45.960 --> 02:09:48.800
<v Speaker 4>It's like you you've played the victim your whole life.

2708
02:09:48.880 --> 02:09:50.439
<v Speaker 4>Would you think was gonna happen? My boy?

2709
02:09:51.520 --> 02:09:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Go meditate, that's all you needed to do.

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02:09:53.640 --> 02:09:59.279
<v Speaker 5>It's realistically, seventy percent could not meet the standard right now.

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02:09:59.319 --> 02:10:02.720
<v Speaker 5>I've just run and push ups right now if they

2712
02:10:02.760 --> 02:10:04.359
<v Speaker 5>had to. And I'm not saying you need to be

2713
02:10:04.359 --> 02:10:07.720
<v Speaker 5>able to run a fucking six minute two mile or

2714
02:10:07.760 --> 02:10:11.279
<v Speaker 5>some wild shit like that, like running two miles and

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02:10:11.359 --> 02:10:12.119
<v Speaker 5>twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>That is that is really easy to do. We're talking

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02:10:15.680 --> 02:10:17.439
<v Speaker 4>ten minutes per mile.

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02:10:18.600 --> 02:10:22.119
<v Speaker 5>Most people, most military age males in this country could

2719
02:10:22.159 --> 02:10:23.439
<v Speaker 5>not do that right now if they had too.

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02:10:23.840 --> 02:10:26.359
<v Speaker 2>What did you run your mile in? Like seven mile?

2721
02:10:26.439 --> 02:10:27.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh and the Marines we run three miles.

2722
02:10:28.279 --> 02:10:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so how long in three miles?

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02:10:30.600 --> 02:10:32.960
<v Speaker 5>My best time was twenty one to fifty, so about

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02:10:33.000 --> 02:10:35.800
<v Speaker 5>seven thirty excuse me? So yeah, but I mean my

2725
02:10:36.000 --> 02:10:38.600
<v Speaker 5>mile time was pretty dope, but I got slower as.

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02:10:38.479 --> 02:10:40.039
<v Speaker 4>The mile went on, you know what I'm saying, But

2727
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<v Speaker 4>as you do.

2728
02:10:41.199 --> 02:10:43.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, my best like mile time I think in my

2729
02:10:43.960 --> 02:10:47.720
<v Speaker 5>life was around like a six six minute, six ten

2730
02:10:47.960 --> 02:10:48.720
<v Speaker 5>something like that.

2731
02:10:48.800 --> 02:10:50.920
<v Speaker 4>But it wasn't I wasn't sprinting that mile. I'm a

2732
02:10:50.960 --> 02:10:53.439
<v Speaker 4>distance runner. I'm not a short runner, and I could

2733
02:10:53.439 --> 02:10:56.800
<v Speaker 4>consider a one mile a very short run like it.

2734
02:10:56.800 --> 02:10:59.399
<v Speaker 4>It's not it's not hard to do four laps around

2735
02:10:59.399 --> 02:10:59.760
<v Speaker 4>a track.

2736
02:11:00.560 --> 02:11:03.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, we're exact opposites in that. I can give

2737
02:11:03.159 --> 02:11:06.760
<v Speaker 3>you literally fucking lightning speed well back whenever I was

2738
02:11:06.800 --> 02:11:09.520
<v Speaker 3>playing football and stuff. But I could I could run

2739
02:11:09.560 --> 02:11:12.239
<v Speaker 3>fastest shit for a good forty meters That's about it,

2740
02:11:12.439 --> 02:11:16.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, But anything longer than that, I am yeaess dude,

2741
02:11:16.039 --> 02:11:18.439
<v Speaker 3>Like don't. And that's why I love football because and

2742
02:11:18.439 --> 02:11:21.199
<v Speaker 3>people would say like, how, how have you never been

2743
02:11:21.239 --> 02:11:23.640
<v Speaker 3>able to because I always talk about how like my my,

2744
02:11:24.880 --> 02:11:25.760
<v Speaker 3>oh shit, what is it?

2745
02:11:25.800 --> 02:11:26.199
<v Speaker 4>Cardio?

2746
02:11:26.520 --> 02:11:28.640
<v Speaker 3>My cardio has always been terrible. And they're like, well,

2747
02:11:28.640 --> 02:11:31.439
<v Speaker 3>you played football for so long. But I'm like, the

2748
02:11:31.520 --> 02:11:33.880
<v Speaker 3>thing is is that a football play lasts about three

2749
02:11:34.000 --> 02:11:36.479
<v Speaker 3>or four seconds and then you get a thirty or

2750
02:11:36.520 --> 02:11:40.279
<v Speaker 3>forty second break afterward. You know, I'm good in short spurts,

2751
02:11:40.279 --> 02:11:41.760
<v Speaker 3>but you get me like, there's no way I can

2752
02:11:41.800 --> 02:11:44.720
<v Speaker 3>play fucking soccer, Like fuck that running?

2753
02:11:44.920 --> 02:11:45.840
<v Speaker 2>No way, right.

2754
02:11:46.000 --> 02:11:48.159
<v Speaker 5>The fastest I've ever seen I do run three miles

2755
02:11:48.199 --> 02:11:52.079
<v Speaker 5>myself is fifteen minutes, three miles and fifteen minutes. But

2756
02:11:52.119 --> 02:11:55.640
<v Speaker 5>this dude, he was a Native American and he grew

2757
02:11:55.720 --> 02:11:57.439
<v Speaker 5>up on the reds, and the way his family earned

2758
02:11:57.439 --> 02:12:00.399
<v Speaker 5>their money was they would run down wild horses every

2759
02:12:00.479 --> 02:12:03.000
<v Speaker 5>day from the time he and now on ATVs on

2760
02:12:03.119 --> 02:12:05.000
<v Speaker 5>foot because they were broke. They were on the riz

2761
02:12:05.600 --> 02:12:08.399
<v Speaker 5>and they would wake up every morning and run down

2762
02:12:08.479 --> 02:12:10.560
<v Speaker 5>a pack of wild horses until one of them got tired,

2763
02:12:10.600 --> 02:12:12.159
<v Speaker 5>throw a rope around its neck, and then bring it

2764
02:12:12.199 --> 02:12:14.039
<v Speaker 5>back so it could be broken by another group. But

2765
02:12:14.079 --> 02:12:16.439
<v Speaker 5>he and his family, him, his dad, and his brothers.

2766
02:12:16.520 --> 02:12:21.840
<v Speaker 5>Every day on foot would run down wild horses. Sometimes

2767
02:12:21.840 --> 02:12:24.680
<v Speaker 5>that would take hours to do. So he was like, wait,

2768
02:12:24.800 --> 02:12:27.960
<v Speaker 5>only three miles, Oh, no problem, bro. He ran three

2769
02:12:28.000 --> 02:12:30.680
<v Speaker 5>miles in fifteen minutes. He wasn't sweating or out of

2770
02:12:30.720 --> 02:12:31.680
<v Speaker 5>breath by the end of it.

2771
02:12:31.960 --> 02:12:34.199
<v Speaker 4>He was chilling. This was This wasn't even a warm

2772
02:12:34.279 --> 02:12:36.079
<v Speaker 4>up for him. And I'm like, fuck you, dude.

2773
02:12:36.079 --> 02:12:38.279
<v Speaker 3>Some people were just fucking built different. Stamina was the

2774
02:12:38.279 --> 02:12:39.760
<v Speaker 3>word I was looking for. I couldn't spit it out

2775
02:12:39.760 --> 02:12:40.239
<v Speaker 3>for some reason.

2776
02:12:40.279 --> 02:12:41.359
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, yeah, yeah.

2777
02:12:41.199 --> 02:12:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Not knowing for the stamina by any means.

2778
02:12:43.000 --> 02:12:46.159
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm sprints, I've never been terrible at But

2779
02:12:46.560 --> 02:12:49.520
<v Speaker 5>if you are looking for like my strongest attribute, yeah,

2780
02:12:49.600 --> 02:12:51.840
<v Speaker 5>no distance runing, but even still do you could go

2781
02:12:51.920 --> 02:12:55.319
<v Speaker 5>for a light yog for the four laps around a

2782
02:12:55.399 --> 02:12:57.359
<v Speaker 5>track and still be fine.

2783
02:12:57.800 --> 02:12:59.640
<v Speaker 4>Like you could you could jog around.

2784
02:13:00.000 --> 02:13:04.239
<v Speaker 5>We won mile in under ten minutes accidentally at a

2785
02:13:04.279 --> 02:13:07.159
<v Speaker 5>decent walking pace, you know what I'm saying. So it's

2786
02:13:07.159 --> 02:13:11.000
<v Speaker 5>like to say that seventy percent of seventeen to thirty

2787
02:13:11.039 --> 02:13:14.600
<v Speaker 5>year olds in America couldn't accomplish that task right off

2788
02:13:14.640 --> 02:13:19.760
<v Speaker 5>the rip or crank out forty push ups. That that's insane,

2789
02:13:19.840 --> 02:13:22.520
<v Speaker 5>that that's something that like most college kids could not

2790
02:13:22.680 --> 02:13:23.399
<v Speaker 5>do right now.

2791
02:13:23.439 --> 02:13:26.119
<v Speaker 3>It's like, bro, what, dude, I used to be able

2792
02:13:26.159 --> 02:13:27.520
<v Speaker 3>to run a four to six back in the day,

2793
02:13:27.560 --> 02:13:28.840
<v Speaker 3>which is fast for a white boy.

2794
02:13:28.960 --> 02:13:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I just want to throw that out there. They ain't.

2795
02:13:30.399 --> 02:13:33.640
<v Speaker 2>That ain't fast by you know, extreme athletes or anything.

2796
02:13:33.680 --> 02:13:36.319
<v Speaker 3>But for me, I was like, damn for six, all right, baby,

2797
02:13:36.560 --> 02:13:38.680
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, you get me on a mile track

2798
02:13:38.920 --> 02:13:41.680
<v Speaker 3>and I'll that'll be a ten minute for me. Dude, Like,

2799
02:13:41.720 --> 02:13:44.199
<v Speaker 3>there's just a fucking way I don't have the daminaugh

2800
02:13:44.199 --> 02:13:44.399
<v Speaker 3>for that.

2801
02:13:45.039 --> 02:13:47.640
<v Speaker 5>But the point for all of what we're talking about here, yeah,

2802
02:13:47.680 --> 02:13:50.600
<v Speaker 5>a recruitment tool for the Navy Seals. I get it, Okay,

2803
02:13:51.319 --> 02:13:54.960
<v Speaker 5>No one doesn't know who they are, right The people

2804
02:13:55.079 --> 02:13:59.159
<v Speaker 5>that fantasize about joining them one day are going to try.

2805
02:13:59.439 --> 02:14:01.600
<v Speaker 5>I forget what the attrition rate is, but I think

2806
02:14:01.640 --> 02:14:04.680
<v Speaker 5>it's like eighty percent of guys that go through BUDS

2807
02:14:04.760 --> 02:14:08.840
<v Speaker 5>do not make it. Through BUDS is basic underwater demolition school.

2808
02:14:08.880 --> 02:14:11.000
<v Speaker 5>That's the first realm of trying to become a seal.

2809
02:14:11.079 --> 02:14:12.800
<v Speaker 5>You join the Navy, you go through boot camp, then

2810
02:14:12.800 --> 02:14:13.479
<v Speaker 5>you go to BUDS.

2811
02:14:14.079 --> 02:14:16.279
<v Speaker 2>So like BUDDS was the Buddy program where you go

2812
02:14:16.319 --> 02:14:17.800
<v Speaker 2>in with like your friend or whatever.

2813
02:14:18.279 --> 02:14:20.439
<v Speaker 5>That's a different thing. Every branch has their version of

2814
02:14:20.439 --> 02:14:23.479
<v Speaker 5>the Buddy program. But BUDS as a school is basic

2815
02:14:23.560 --> 02:14:26.159
<v Speaker 5>underwater demolition school. So that's the ones where you see

2816
02:14:26.199 --> 02:14:29.439
<v Speaker 5>the guys running on the beaches with the boats on

2817
02:14:29.520 --> 02:14:30.039
<v Speaker 5>their heads.

2818
02:14:30.159 --> 02:14:32.359
<v Speaker 4>Goggins al who's going to carry the boats?

2819
02:14:32.560 --> 02:14:37.800
<v Speaker 5>That that's BUDS program, right, and most the vast majority,

2820
02:14:37.800 --> 02:14:40.119
<v Speaker 5>now I mean Green Berets, they have a success rate

2821
02:14:40.239 --> 02:14:42.600
<v Speaker 5>of I think three percent. So out of one hundred

2822
02:14:42.680 --> 02:14:45.439
<v Speaker 5>dudes that are going through Green Beret training, three of

2823
02:14:45.479 --> 02:14:49.560
<v Speaker 5>them might get a Green Beret at the end of it. Yeah,

2824
02:14:49.560 --> 02:14:51.560
<v Speaker 5>I think the Seals are like I want to say,

2825
02:14:51.600 --> 02:14:53.359
<v Speaker 5>it's like fifteen to twenty percent. It's been a while

2826
02:14:53.359 --> 02:14:55.800
<v Speaker 5>since I lived to the statistics, but yeah, so, I

2827
02:14:55.840 --> 02:14:57.880
<v Speaker 5>mean the guys that are already wanting to do that

2828
02:14:58.319 --> 02:15:02.479
<v Speaker 5>are going to already shoot their sh The movie probably

2829
02:15:02.520 --> 02:15:03.880
<v Speaker 5>helped the Navy's recruitment.

2830
02:15:03.920 --> 02:15:06.279
<v Speaker 4>But that's the other thing too. You might sign up

2831
02:15:06.279 --> 02:15:08.560
<v Speaker 4>to go to Seals, but if you fail out of school,

2832
02:15:08.720 --> 02:15:10.720
<v Speaker 4>you don't get kicked out of the Navy. You get

2833
02:15:10.720 --> 02:15:12.800
<v Speaker 4>sent to some other school. Now you're a supply guy

2834
02:15:13.600 --> 02:15:16.239
<v Speaker 4>or a logistics guy, or maybe you do get n

2835
02:15:16.359 --> 02:15:17.119
<v Speaker 4>P or something.

2836
02:15:17.119 --> 02:15:19.279
<v Speaker 3>Who knows, right well, the fucking recruiter will tell you

2837
02:15:19.359 --> 02:15:22.279
<v Speaker 3>can get any job you want right right basically.

2838
02:15:22.479 --> 02:15:23.039
<v Speaker 4>And that's the thing.

2839
02:15:23.079 --> 02:15:25.560
<v Speaker 5>Whenever you you have to sign up, whenever you do

2840
02:15:25.720 --> 02:15:28.479
<v Speaker 5>join the Navy and go to Seals training, you sign

2841
02:15:28.600 --> 02:15:32.199
<v Speaker 5>up for buds, right, that's the contractor signing. But then

2842
02:15:32.279 --> 02:15:35.760
<v Speaker 5>underneath that you have a secondary option just in case.

2843
02:15:35.800 --> 02:15:37.319
<v Speaker 5>And of course you're you're totally gonna make it, bro,

2844
02:15:37.399 --> 02:15:39.199
<v Speaker 5>you're already no. I could tell by looking at you

2845
02:15:39.199 --> 02:15:41.560
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna be a seal, but just in case something happens,

2846
02:15:41.840 --> 02:15:44.119
<v Speaker 5>what's another job you might want to do. That's that's

2847
02:15:44.119 --> 02:15:45.960
<v Speaker 5>probably gonna be the job you get a sign.

2848
02:15:46.039 --> 02:15:48.119
<v Speaker 3>I know seals, trust me, and I'm looking at one

2849
02:15:48.199 --> 02:15:50.600
<v Speaker 3>right here.

2850
02:15:52.319 --> 02:15:54.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I've been playing Call of Duty since I

2851
02:15:54.199 --> 02:15:55.840
<v Speaker 4>was like ten, so I think I'm just pretty much

2852
02:15:55.880 --> 02:15:58.439
<v Speaker 4>ready for this right now. It's like, boy, I believe

2853
02:15:58.479 --> 02:15:59.760
<v Speaker 4>you here, sign this contract?

2854
02:16:00.000 --> 02:16:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Did you get a fifty on your as VAB You're

2855
02:16:01.960 --> 02:16:04.199
<v Speaker 3>fucking good? I mean whatever you Oh my god.

2856
02:16:04.800 --> 02:16:08.600
<v Speaker 5>That's another thing, dude. People underestimate the ASVAB scores. Yeah,

2857
02:16:08.640 --> 02:16:10.920
<v Speaker 5>passing it depending on the branch. You're going into the

2858
02:16:10.920 --> 02:16:12.640
<v Speaker 5>Marines for a while, we're only taking like I think

2859
02:16:12.680 --> 02:16:14.479
<v Speaker 5>it was a twenty seven, and they would take you.

2860
02:16:14.560 --> 02:16:16.760
<v Speaker 5>Now granted there was like two jobs you could do

2861
02:16:16.800 --> 02:16:18.880
<v Speaker 5>once you got through it, but yeah, one of them

2862
02:16:18.920 --> 02:16:19.279
<v Speaker 5>was grunt.

2863
02:16:19.319 --> 02:16:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I might add Army is way lower too, isn't it.

2864
02:16:22.079 --> 02:16:25.840
<v Speaker 4>Marines had the as the lowest. Oh really, yeah, where.

2865
02:16:25.920 --> 02:16:27.960
<v Speaker 5>That's why we're known as the crayon eaters. We're not

2866
02:16:28.039 --> 02:16:30.119
<v Speaker 5>known for our intelligence. But I will say some of

2867
02:16:30.119 --> 02:16:32.440
<v Speaker 5>the smartest dudes ever met were actually in the Marine

2868
02:16:32.440 --> 02:16:33.000
<v Speaker 5>Corps Infantry.

2869
02:16:33.000 --> 02:16:34.079
<v Speaker 4>But that's a different conversation.

2870
02:16:34.159 --> 02:16:37.520
<v Speaker 5>But so the Air Force has the highest, actually probably

2871
02:16:37.520 --> 02:16:39.799
<v Speaker 5>Space Force has the highest as of this moment, like

2872
02:16:40.079 --> 02:16:42.520
<v Speaker 5>bottom tier level. If you don't make this, then you're

2873
02:16:42.559 --> 02:16:45.360
<v Speaker 5>not even we're not even looking at you for further review.

2874
02:16:46.000 --> 02:16:48.440
<v Speaker 5>But the Seals, Yeah, you don't just have to pass it.

2875
02:16:48.520 --> 02:16:51.200
<v Speaker 5>You have to pass in certain regards and in certain criteria.

2876
02:16:51.280 --> 02:16:54.239
<v Speaker 5>So it's not just your overall score, your GT score

2877
02:16:54.360 --> 02:16:56.520
<v Speaker 5>or you're like what's called your general competence or whatever

2878
02:16:56.520 --> 02:16:58.719
<v Speaker 5>it's called that needs to be I want to say,

2879
02:16:58.760 --> 02:17:02.159
<v Speaker 5>it's like over a over a one oh five or

2880
02:17:02.159 --> 02:17:04.639
<v Speaker 5>something like that to even apply to the school. I

2881
02:17:04.760 --> 02:17:06.360
<v Speaker 5>got a I think I had like a one to

2882
02:17:06.440 --> 02:17:08.520
<v Speaker 5>fifteen or a one ten or something like that. I

2883
02:17:08.559 --> 02:17:10.760
<v Speaker 5>could have gone to a bunch of different schools, but

2884
02:17:10.799 --> 02:17:13.399
<v Speaker 5>I wanted infantry. I think I had a sixty nine

2885
02:17:13.479 --> 02:17:15.280
<v Speaker 5>overall or something along those lines.

2886
02:17:15.319 --> 02:17:16.639
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, it's.

2887
02:17:17.079 --> 02:17:18.799
<v Speaker 5>It's just one of those things that like, yeah, even

2888
02:17:18.799 --> 02:17:21.639
<v Speaker 5>if you are stud physically, if you can't pass the

2889
02:17:21.799 --> 02:17:24.879
<v Speaker 5>very basics of this test, then like you also can't apply.

2890
02:17:25.319 --> 02:17:27.719
<v Speaker 5>Like that's that it takes a lot to get in,

2891
02:17:28.200 --> 02:17:30.479
<v Speaker 5>and that's the thing everybody thinks, Oh, if all else fails,

2892
02:17:30.520 --> 02:17:33.239
<v Speaker 5>just go join the military, which used to be seen

2893
02:17:33.319 --> 02:17:36.399
<v Speaker 5>as apologies to all of our female listeners.

2894
02:17:36.600 --> 02:17:38.719
<v Speaker 4>Bear with me. Here for a girl to say, you

2895
02:17:38.799 --> 02:17:41.399
<v Speaker 4>know what, fuck it, I'm gonna become a stripper. That

2896
02:17:41.639 --> 02:17:42.920
<v Speaker 4>was what it used to be to say, you know what,

2897
02:17:42.959 --> 02:17:44.879
<v Speaker 4>fuck it, I'm gonna join the army. That was the

2898
02:17:44.879 --> 02:17:45.639
<v Speaker 4>male equivalent.

2899
02:17:45.840 --> 02:17:49.319
<v Speaker 3>It's only fans now, yeah, now it's only fans. Excuse

2900
02:17:49.319 --> 02:17:50.159
<v Speaker 3>me the fuck it part?

2901
02:17:50.360 --> 02:17:52.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, fuck it, I'm gonna go to show my

2902
02:17:52.799 --> 02:17:54.559
<v Speaker 5>tits for money on the internet, and.

2903
02:17:54.520 --> 02:17:57.239
<v Speaker 4>Like nobody's I'm not knocking, I'm not throwing shame.

2904
02:17:57.280 --> 02:17:59.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get in a bag and sell it to

2905
02:17:59.239 --> 02:18:01.719
<v Speaker 3>some guy working at the Chinese restaurant and he's gonna

2906
02:18:01.719 --> 02:18:03.319
<v Speaker 3>which also is a real thing.

2907
02:18:03.399 --> 02:18:05.239
<v Speaker 4>If you're able to shit in a jar and sell

2908
02:18:05.280 --> 02:18:07.799
<v Speaker 4>it to make money. Listen, who am I to tell

2909
02:18:07.840 --> 02:18:09.440
<v Speaker 4>you there's a sucker born every minute.

2910
02:18:09.520 --> 02:18:11.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm saying, dude, they fucking eat it. I'm like,

2911
02:18:11.959 --> 02:18:14.799
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, what is wrong with people?

2912
02:18:15.319 --> 02:18:18.600
<v Speaker 5>Scat kink is a thing. It's gross, it's fucking nasty.

2913
02:18:18.600 --> 02:18:22.159
<v Speaker 4>But anyway, anyway, it used to be for a young

2914
02:18:22.200 --> 02:18:24.200
<v Speaker 4>man that had nothing else going for him, just.

2915
02:18:24.200 --> 02:18:26.360
<v Speaker 5>Fucking I'm gonna join the arm here, I'm gonna join

2916
02:18:26.360 --> 02:18:28.280
<v Speaker 5>the navy. That was their equivalent of fuck it, I'm

2917
02:18:28.280 --> 02:18:31.000
<v Speaker 5>gonna be a stripper. And now you're telling me that

2918
02:18:31.159 --> 02:18:35.120
<v Speaker 5>seventy percent of dudes couldn't do that if they had

2919
02:18:35.200 --> 02:18:38.440
<v Speaker 5>no other options. It's like, bro, we we as a

2920
02:18:38.520 --> 02:18:41.360
<v Speaker 5>society have gone down quite a bit, don't you think.

2921
02:18:41.520 --> 02:18:43.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a lot of people out there nowadays that

2922
02:18:43.680 --> 02:18:46.680
<v Speaker 3>like they're almost proud of what's wrong with them, you

2923
02:18:46.680 --> 02:18:47.159
<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying.

2924
02:18:47.200 --> 02:18:50.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, professional victim mentality has become such a. It's like

2925
02:18:50.920 --> 02:18:54.399
<v Speaker 5>cool to be marginalized. It's insane.

2926
02:18:54.719 --> 02:18:57.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I have crippling anxiety. It's popular now. I'm like,

2927
02:18:58.600 --> 02:18:59.879
<v Speaker 3>why why is that a?

2928
02:19:00.159 --> 02:19:00.559
<v Speaker 4>Why is that?

2929
02:19:01.120 --> 02:19:01.200
<v Speaker 7>Like?

2930
02:19:01.479 --> 02:19:03.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't get it, you know, I.

2931
02:19:03.280 --> 02:19:04.040
<v Speaker 4>Don't understand it.

2932
02:19:04.280 --> 02:19:06.479
<v Speaker 5>You see these dudes that like do podcasts and then

2933
02:19:06.479 --> 02:19:08.520
<v Speaker 5>they'll even talk about it after the fact, Like Bro,

2934
02:19:08.639 --> 02:19:10.120
<v Speaker 5>after the interview, I had to just like sit on

2935
02:19:10.120 --> 02:19:12.040
<v Speaker 5>the couch for thirty minutes to just like decompress.

2936
02:19:12.079 --> 02:19:16.079
<v Speaker 4>My anxiety was so high. Where are your fucking nuts, dude?

2937
02:19:16.479 --> 02:19:17.879
<v Speaker 4>Where are your I mean.

2938
02:19:17.840 --> 02:19:19.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lie like I don't. I don't get

2939
02:19:19.559 --> 02:19:21.680
<v Speaker 3>nervous before a show or anything like that. But whenever

2940
02:19:21.719 --> 02:19:23.639
<v Speaker 3>we went up on stage for bro Grove, I was

2941
02:19:23.719 --> 02:19:28.680
<v Speaker 3>absolutely shitting bricks. Okay, I kept my composure, but inside

2942
02:19:28.760 --> 02:19:30.799
<v Speaker 3>I was fucking loosing my shit.

2943
02:19:31.399 --> 02:19:35.079
<v Speaker 5>Public speaking is different. Right now, you've seen me multiple times.

2944
02:19:35.120 --> 02:19:37.479
<v Speaker 5>I have no issues doing public speaking. In fact, some

2945
02:19:37.520 --> 02:19:38.120
<v Speaker 5>would say I.

2946
02:19:38.040 --> 02:19:39.159
<v Speaker 4>Thrive in that environment.

2947
02:19:39.719 --> 02:19:42.879
<v Speaker 5>Certain people like that's a real like fear that they have,

2948
02:19:43.040 --> 02:19:45.239
<v Speaker 5>And I understand this. Public speaking is a thing that

2949
02:19:45.399 --> 02:19:47.559
<v Speaker 5>like it takes a second to get used to cool.

2950
02:19:48.079 --> 02:19:50.680
<v Speaker 5>But on a pod, dude, you're having a one on

2951
02:19:50.680 --> 02:19:53.760
<v Speaker 5>one conversation and you just got anxiety from talking to

2952
02:19:53.840 --> 02:19:54.600
<v Speaker 5>a guy.

2953
02:19:55.200 --> 02:19:58.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, they're worried about like is their filter good enough

2954
02:19:58.399 --> 02:20:01.079
<v Speaker 3>to where they're not gonna say something that they shouldn't say.

2955
02:20:01.280 --> 02:20:03.079
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's a thing.

2956
02:20:03.000 --> 02:20:05.319
<v Speaker 4>Ow loud you sound You heard how gay that sounded? Right?

2957
02:20:05.440 --> 02:20:05.959
<v Speaker 4>Oh wow?

2958
02:20:06.079 --> 02:20:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's full on lamb. Don't get me wrong, but

2959
02:20:09.239 --> 02:20:11.600
<v Speaker 3>I get it. I mean, I'm not gonna say that.

2960
02:20:11.639 --> 02:20:14.479
<v Speaker 3>It's it's a weakness, but you know, worked over time,

2961
02:20:14.719 --> 02:20:17.719
<v Speaker 3>you you know, you kind of build up that momentum

2962
02:20:17.760 --> 02:20:20.520
<v Speaker 3>and then you forget about your anxiety absolutely.

2963
02:20:20.799 --> 02:20:22.079
<v Speaker 5>I mean, but that's the thing you got These people

2964
02:20:22.120 --> 02:20:24.120
<v Speaker 5>there on like, oh I have to take three Sannox

2965
02:20:24.159 --> 02:20:25.479
<v Speaker 5>every day for even get out of bed.

2966
02:20:25.520 --> 02:20:29.799
<v Speaker 4>Well it's like, yeah, the military doesn't want you. Holy fuck.

2967
02:20:30.399 --> 02:20:32.559
<v Speaker 3>Speaking of the military, let's get to the next movie,

2968
02:20:32.639 --> 02:20:34.760
<v Speaker 3>and that is The hurt Locker came out in twenty

2969
02:20:35.040 --> 02:20:38.600
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and eight. The branches involved, or the branch involved,

2970
02:20:38.639 --> 02:20:42.360
<v Speaker 3>was the US Army. Although not as closely tied to

2971
02:20:42.399 --> 02:20:45.440
<v Speaker 3>the Pentagon as others, the hurt Lockers still receive logistical

2972
02:20:45.479 --> 02:20:47.879
<v Speaker 3>support from the military and was allowed to shoot on

2973
02:20:47.879 --> 02:20:51.879
<v Speaker 3>some of the US military basis. It follows an EOD

2974
02:20:52.159 --> 02:20:56.719
<v Speaker 3>explosive ordnance disposable which you brought up unit in Iraq,

2975
02:20:56.840 --> 02:20:59.920
<v Speaker 3>focusing on the psychological tool of war. While it flirt

2976
02:21:00.200 --> 02:21:04.559
<v Speaker 3>with ambiguity, the protagonist is still portrayed as addicted to war,

2977
02:21:04.840 --> 02:21:08.040
<v Speaker 3>a man defined by chaos but noble for enduring it.

2978
02:21:08.360 --> 02:21:12.040
<v Speaker 3>Subconscious programming here is subtler. War becomes a drug and

2979
02:21:12.079 --> 02:21:15.399
<v Speaker 3>the soldier is romanticized for giving up family and peace

2980
02:21:15.520 --> 02:21:19.440
<v Speaker 3>for the greater cause. In quotes, even trauma becomes heroism.

2981
02:21:19.559 --> 02:21:24.280
<v Speaker 3>It subtly conditions viewers to sympathize with military mindsets, reinforcing

2982
02:21:24.319 --> 02:21:27.399
<v Speaker 3>that some men are just quote unquote built for war

2983
02:21:27.520 --> 02:21:30.680
<v Speaker 3>and we need them, without questioning why warstart in the

2984
02:21:30.680 --> 02:21:31.239
<v Speaker 3>first place.

2985
02:21:32.159 --> 02:21:34.799
<v Speaker 4>Agreed, I agree with everything that was just said.

2986
02:21:35.239 --> 02:21:38.000
<v Speaker 5>Actually, I do believe that certain dudes are built for

2987
02:21:38.040 --> 02:21:42.399
<v Speaker 5>that and we do need them. It's like you, you

2988
02:21:42.440 --> 02:21:45.360
<v Speaker 5>don't want we don't want war?

2989
02:21:45.920 --> 02:21:47.040
<v Speaker 4>Right? War is bad.

2990
02:21:47.280 --> 02:21:49.479
<v Speaker 5>I know that I say a lot of things about it. Okay,

2991
02:21:49.520 --> 02:21:52.040
<v Speaker 5>but let's just put all cards on the table. War

2992
02:21:52.159 --> 02:21:54.200
<v Speaker 5>is hell, okay, and it is not fun.

2993
02:21:54.559 --> 02:21:57.319
<v Speaker 4>Is not good. You do not want to send your

2994
02:21:57.319 --> 02:22:00.840
<v Speaker 4>sons to fight in some conflict in some form in land. Okay,

2995
02:22:00.879 --> 02:22:03.799
<v Speaker 4>nobody genuinely wakes up feeling like that's what we need

2996
02:22:03.799 --> 02:22:04.120
<v Speaker 4>to do.

2997
02:22:04.920 --> 02:22:08.079
<v Speaker 5>But at the same time, you need good men that

2998
02:22:08.159 --> 02:22:11.360
<v Speaker 5>are willing to do bad things in order to have

2999
02:22:11.399 --> 02:22:12.520
<v Speaker 5>your safety and security.

3000
02:22:13.079 --> 02:22:15.319
<v Speaker 4>That's just the way of the world. I'm very sorry,

3001
02:22:15.360 --> 02:22:16.799
<v Speaker 4>but you need pipe hitters.

3002
02:22:17.120 --> 02:22:20.239
<v Speaker 5>You don't want them, You really don't want these goons

3003
02:22:20.719 --> 02:22:25.559
<v Speaker 5>to exist, but fucking you need some pipe hitting goons

3004
02:22:25.559 --> 02:22:26.399
<v Speaker 5>when the times come.

3005
02:22:27.040 --> 02:22:27.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

3006
02:22:27.440 --> 02:22:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like, you know, the people that we're talking about,

3007
02:22:29.879 --> 02:22:33.520
<v Speaker 3>like defunding the police, right, so fucking stupid. Everybody that

3008
02:22:33.680 --> 02:22:35.680
<v Speaker 3>was on that board, they were like, well, police they're

3009
02:22:35.680 --> 02:22:38.799
<v Speaker 3>always just they're always beating up the innocent people and

3010
02:22:38.799 --> 02:22:42.079
<v Speaker 3>shit like that, until you know you have a burglar

3011
02:22:42.360 --> 02:22:44.479
<v Speaker 3>and that burglar has a gun, and who you're gonna

3012
02:22:44.479 --> 02:22:48.600
<v Speaker 3>call because Ghostbusters was just a movie and uh, the

3013
02:22:48.680 --> 02:22:51.200
<v Speaker 3>police you wanted to defund. So now you're kind of

3014
02:22:51.200 --> 02:22:53.200
<v Speaker 3>just fending for yourself. Now you want to retract all

3015
02:22:53.200 --> 02:22:54.799
<v Speaker 3>your statements and you look like an idiot.

3016
02:22:55.879 --> 02:22:59.239
<v Speaker 4>It'd be like that, you know what I mean. Yeah,

3017
02:22:59.280 --> 02:22:59.920
<v Speaker 4>it's a part of it.

3018
02:23:00.200 --> 02:23:04.360
<v Speaker 5>So yeah, eod boys are psychotic in the best way possible,

3019
02:23:05.399 --> 02:23:08.079
<v Speaker 5>and they're they're fucked up in the head. Like, I

3020
02:23:08.120 --> 02:23:10.559
<v Speaker 5>don't think I've ever met a sane EOD tech in

3021
02:23:10.639 --> 02:23:13.840
<v Speaker 5>my life. You have to be a little bit fucking

3022
02:23:13.920 --> 02:23:20.840
<v Speaker 5>crazy to defuse bombs that were meant to be undeffusible, right, Like,

3023
02:23:21.120 --> 02:23:23.680
<v Speaker 5>you know, the every time you step up to the plate,

3024
02:23:23.879 --> 02:23:26.399
<v Speaker 5>like there is a real possibility that they won't find

3025
02:23:26.479 --> 02:23:28.799
<v Speaker 5>pieces to send back home. Like you have to come

3026
02:23:28.799 --> 02:23:31.159
<v Speaker 5>to grips with that and be at peace with that

3027
02:23:31.239 --> 02:23:33.040
<v Speaker 5>reality every time you gear up.

3028
02:23:33.360 --> 02:23:38.319
<v Speaker 4>Brother, First of all, God bless you. Secondly, this let

3029
02:23:38.319 --> 02:23:40.879
<v Speaker 4>this man cook. He's not gonna be okay when he

3030
02:23:40.920 --> 02:23:42.280
<v Speaker 4>comes home. Let him fucking be.

3031
02:23:42.639 --> 02:23:44.639
<v Speaker 3>I mean to be honest, it's probably there's probably a

3032
02:23:44.639 --> 02:23:48.239
<v Speaker 3>little bit of solace within the mindset of something like that.

3033
02:23:48.360 --> 02:23:50.879
<v Speaker 3>If you're going up there to defuse a fucking bomb,

3034
02:23:51.239 --> 02:23:53.639
<v Speaker 3>you know you're probably not going to suffer if it

3035
02:23:53.680 --> 02:23:55.559
<v Speaker 3>goes off, You know what I'm saying, Like you're fucking

3036
02:23:55.600 --> 02:23:56.639
<v Speaker 3>done within a second.

3037
02:23:57.440 --> 02:23:59.680
<v Speaker 5>I will say that EOD is the only job in

3038
02:23:59.680 --> 02:24:02.760
<v Speaker 5>the Middle military where if at any time you decide

3039
02:24:02.760 --> 02:24:05.040
<v Speaker 5>that you're done, you can take the badge off. You

3040
02:24:05.120 --> 02:24:07.200
<v Speaker 5>slam it on the commander's desk and say I'm done,

3041
02:24:07.360 --> 02:24:09.520
<v Speaker 5>and they'll they'll put you in some other position somewhere.

3042
02:24:09.639 --> 02:24:12.479
<v Speaker 5>You have to be one percent in your correct frame

3043
02:24:12.520 --> 02:24:14.200
<v Speaker 5>of mind to be in that job.

3044
02:24:14.959 --> 02:24:17.639
<v Speaker 4>There's a motorcycle club as a matter of fact, EOD

3045
02:24:17.719 --> 02:24:21.239
<v Speaker 4>that's completely comprised of EOD text from multiple branches. You

3046
02:24:21.360 --> 02:24:23.399
<v Speaker 4>have to be in the job for at least eight

3047
02:24:23.479 --> 02:24:25.600
<v Speaker 4>years before you can ever try to be a part

3048
02:24:25.639 --> 02:24:27.440
<v Speaker 4>of the club. They need to know you're on that

3049
02:24:27.559 --> 02:24:28.559
<v Speaker 4>level of fucking crazy.

3050
02:24:29.319 --> 02:24:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh, shout out to them, we need them, Oh we do,

3051
02:24:32.079 --> 02:24:32.319
<v Speaker 2>we do.

3052
02:24:32.440 --> 02:24:34.360
<v Speaker 5>Next but yes, again, you're never gonna have one of

3053
02:24:34.399 --> 02:24:36.040
<v Speaker 5>these guys on a counter sniper operation.

3054
02:24:36.319 --> 02:24:37.319
<v Speaker 4>That's fucking stupid.

3055
02:24:37.879 --> 02:24:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you're not gonna have crippling, crippling anxiety for

3056
02:24:41.399 --> 02:24:42.559
<v Speaker 3>a job like that, you know.

3057
02:24:42.840 --> 02:24:42.920
<v Speaker 7>No.

3058
02:24:43.520 --> 02:24:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Nextly we have Zero Dark thirty came out in twenty twelve.

3059
02:24:47.040 --> 02:24:51.319
<v Speaker 3>The branches involved with the CIA and the DoD. Zero

3060
02:24:51.559 --> 02:24:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Dark thirty was made with.

3061
02:24:53.959 --> 02:24:56.559
<v Speaker 5>That's the one we were talking about thirteen hours. The

3062
02:24:56.639 --> 02:24:58.879
<v Speaker 5>other movie, Zero Dark thirty.

3063
02:24:58.719 --> 02:25:00.799
<v Speaker 2>All right, and Benghazi. Yeah.

3064
02:25:01.280 --> 02:25:04.520
<v Speaker 3>Zero DARC thirty was made with direct assistance from the CIA,

3065
02:25:04.680 --> 02:25:08.479
<v Speaker 3>who provided access to classified information and brief the filmmakers

3066
02:25:08.520 --> 02:25:11.719
<v Speaker 3>on the Bin Laden raid. The agency hope to rebrand

3067
02:25:11.760 --> 02:25:16.360
<v Speaker 3>itself post Iraq War scandals by highlighting its role in

3068
02:25:16.479 --> 02:25:20.879
<v Speaker 3>tracking down America's most wanted torture. Scenes, although controversial, were

3069
02:25:20.920 --> 02:25:26.040
<v Speaker 3>framed as unpleasant but effective, subtly suggesting in quotes enhanced

3070
02:25:26.120 --> 02:25:31.479
<v Speaker 3>interrogation played a necessary role. The subconscious takeaway is that

3071
02:25:31.680 --> 02:25:35.440
<v Speaker 3>extreme measures are justified in the war on terror by

3072
02:25:35.479 --> 02:25:39.600
<v Speaker 3>showing the main character, a determined woman, as emotionally numb

3073
02:25:39.639 --> 02:25:44.120
<v Speaker 3>and obsessive. It frames obsession with justice as virtue. Even

3074
02:25:44.200 --> 02:25:48.639
<v Speaker 3>when the methods cross moral boundaries, the end justifies the means.

3075
02:25:48.840 --> 02:25:51.799
<v Speaker 3>This was psychological priming at the highest level.

3076
02:25:52.600 --> 02:25:53.040
<v Speaker 7>Damn.

3077
02:25:53.840 --> 02:25:56.600
<v Speaker 5>It was about ben Lauden or Benghazi. I don't know

3078
02:25:56.600 --> 02:26:01.280
<v Speaker 5>if I've ever actually seen zero Dark thirty. It's okay, so

3079
02:26:01.360 --> 02:26:02.200
<v Speaker 5>what about Benghazi?

3080
02:26:02.239 --> 02:26:02.719
<v Speaker 4>We were wrong?

3081
02:26:02.760 --> 02:26:04.879
<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yeah, So it was about the raid that killed

3082
02:26:05.360 --> 02:26:10.600
<v Speaker 5>bin Laden, which also good God, that whole operation start to.

3083
02:26:10.520 --> 02:26:13.719
<v Speaker 4>Finish was fucked. They brought two helicopters and one of

3084
02:26:13.760 --> 02:26:17.959
<v Speaker 4>them crashed and everybody inside died and all this other shit,

3085
02:26:18.079 --> 02:26:21.399
<v Speaker 4>and then afterwards they took the body and sunk it

3086
02:26:21.520 --> 02:26:24.680
<v Speaker 4>in the ocean, and it was Yeah, there's there's a

3087
02:26:24.760 --> 02:26:27.479
<v Speaker 4>lot of controversy surrounding that operation as well.

3088
02:26:27.559 --> 02:26:29.920
<v Speaker 3>It was one of the Ben's ben Laden Benghazi, you know.

3089
02:26:33.360 --> 02:26:37.040
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, it's it's really looking at like almost training

3090
02:26:37.159 --> 02:26:40.000
<v Speaker 3>the people who are under this hypnosis as they're watching

3091
02:26:40.079 --> 02:26:44.079
<v Speaker 3>the movie that it's like patriotic to be emotionally numb,

3092
02:26:44.239 --> 02:26:48.440
<v Speaker 3>obsessive and using that as just like justice as virtue.

3093
02:26:48.840 --> 02:26:52.000
<v Speaker 3>So that's the subconscious kind of programming that are in

3094
02:26:52.079 --> 02:26:54.639
<v Speaker 3>these types of movies. They want people like that, which

3095
02:26:54.920 --> 02:26:56.879
<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm not I'm not here to say that

3096
02:26:57.000 --> 02:27:00.920
<v Speaker 3>every subconscious programming that the military puts out is inherently

3097
02:27:01.079 --> 02:27:04.239
<v Speaker 3>evil and bad, because I think you need people like that,

3098
02:27:04.399 --> 02:27:07.000
<v Speaker 3>which you know, it's it's almost like a bad signal,

3099
02:27:07.319 --> 02:27:09.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's like, well, look, we got to throw

3100
02:27:09.120 --> 02:27:11.120
<v Speaker 3>this out there or else nobody's gonna know the fucking

3101
02:27:11.399 --> 02:27:13.879
<v Speaker 3>you know, we need Batman, And I think that that's

3102
02:27:13.879 --> 02:27:16.040
<v Speaker 3>probably you know, their angle on it, or one of

3103
02:27:16.040 --> 02:27:18.120
<v Speaker 3>the angles, not the entire one, but one of them.

3104
02:27:18.719 --> 02:27:20.520
<v Speaker 5>You need to be able to put the emotions aside

3105
02:27:20.520 --> 02:27:21.399
<v Speaker 5>to get the job done.

3106
02:27:21.520 --> 02:27:22.680
<v Speaker 4>That's absolutely a fact.

3107
02:27:22.760 --> 02:27:25.239
<v Speaker 5>And I'm not even just in war zones, Like how

3108
02:27:25.239 --> 02:27:28.399
<v Speaker 5>many times have you even working at a pizza joint

3109
02:27:28.760 --> 02:27:31.479
<v Speaker 5>you got there, the entire situation was fucks you knew

3110
02:27:31.520 --> 02:27:34.040
<v Speaker 5>you had to just lock in and just hone in

3111
02:27:34.120 --> 02:27:36.440
<v Speaker 5>for a couple hours until everything got situated.

3112
02:27:36.559 --> 02:27:37.600
<v Speaker 2>It happens everywhere.

3113
02:27:37.639 --> 02:27:39.680
<v Speaker 3>You gotta get that flow state going, baby to slap

3114
02:27:39.760 --> 02:27:41.440
<v Speaker 3>them Pepperoni's on there, you know what I mean.

3115
02:27:42.159 --> 02:27:44.079
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not equating that to war fighting.

3116
02:27:44.120 --> 02:27:46.760
<v Speaker 5>But my point is that to some degree, everybody's got

3117
02:27:46.799 --> 02:27:48.680
<v Speaker 5>to be able to lock in, tune everything else out,

3118
02:27:48.760 --> 02:27:51.799
<v Speaker 5>tunnel vision, and get a job done. In the military, yeah,

3119
02:27:51.840 --> 02:27:53.639
<v Speaker 5>you need guys that are able to do that and

3120
02:27:53.639 --> 02:27:55.879
<v Speaker 5>put emotions aside for the greater good to get the

3121
02:27:56.000 --> 02:27:59.319
<v Speaker 5>job done. And to your point, yeah, I mean everybody

3122
02:27:59.319 --> 02:28:02.159
<v Speaker 5>gets brainwalled in some way, shape or form at boot camp,

3123
02:28:02.399 --> 02:28:04.879
<v Speaker 5>which I actually believe that this is brainwashing for a

3124
02:28:05.000 --> 02:28:07.159
<v Speaker 5>positive cause you.

3125
02:28:07.079 --> 02:28:08.920
<v Speaker 4>Get a perfect example of this.

3126
02:28:09.000 --> 02:28:11.760
<v Speaker 3>You get problem with the problem with brainwashing though, is

3127
02:28:11.799 --> 02:28:14.600
<v Speaker 3>that yeah, it suits a purpose for sure for the

3128
02:28:15.040 --> 02:28:17.959
<v Speaker 3>job that needs done. But it's not like that brainwashing

3129
02:28:18.079 --> 02:28:21.120
<v Speaker 3>is like disconnected whenever you get out of the service,

3130
02:28:21.319 --> 02:28:23.479
<v Speaker 3>and that's probably part of the issue.

3131
02:28:23.200 --> 02:28:26.600
<v Speaker 5>I think, But it's not always a bad thing. Now,

3132
02:28:26.639 --> 02:28:29.040
<v Speaker 5>there is something that absolutely is right. These guys that

3133
02:28:29.200 --> 02:28:31.920
<v Speaker 5>like are still in the trenches and they cannot disassociate

3134
02:28:31.959 --> 02:28:35.079
<v Speaker 5>and like, okay, fine, and that's the levels of PTSD

3135
02:28:35.159 --> 02:28:38.159
<v Speaker 5>for shit like that. But you don't get PTSD just

3136
02:28:38.159 --> 02:28:40.520
<v Speaker 5>from going to boot camp and go working some logistics

3137
02:28:40.559 --> 02:28:41.280
<v Speaker 5>job somewhere.

3138
02:28:41.360 --> 02:28:41.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay.

3139
02:28:41.680 --> 02:28:44.360
<v Speaker 5>But what you do is you get brainwashed in a

3140
02:28:44.399 --> 02:28:47.440
<v Speaker 5>sense of like, all right, you get fifty dudes, one

3141
02:28:47.520 --> 02:28:52.159
<v Speaker 5>from every state in the country, different backgrounds, different socioeconomic classes,

3142
02:28:52.200 --> 02:28:55.760
<v Speaker 5>different races, different religions, everything, and you make them live

3143
02:28:56.000 --> 02:28:58.559
<v Speaker 5>three inches apart from each other for the next six months.

3144
02:28:59.360 --> 02:29:01.079
<v Speaker 4>You'll get a sense of camaraderie.

3145
02:29:01.120 --> 02:29:03.520
<v Speaker 5>You'll get a sense of like going through the suck

3146
02:29:03.680 --> 02:29:07.639
<v Speaker 5>together makes you have a tighter bond, right, And yes,

3147
02:29:07.680 --> 02:29:09.920
<v Speaker 5>there's a little bit of some brainwashing that takes place there,

3148
02:29:09.920 --> 02:29:13.040
<v Speaker 5>but also you learn how to put your feelings aside

3149
02:29:13.440 --> 02:29:16.159
<v Speaker 5>to accomplish the job. I and this is what I'm saying,

3150
02:29:16.200 --> 02:29:17.319
<v Speaker 5>like a positive brainwashing.

3151
02:29:17.360 --> 02:29:19.799
<v Speaker 3>You know what's interesting though, I wonder if they ever

3152
02:29:20.120 --> 02:29:23.600
<v Speaker 3>looked into reverse brainwashing, Like do you think that that

3153
02:29:23.639 --> 02:29:26.120
<v Speaker 3>would be a positive thing, Like maybe whenever you're coming

3154
02:29:26.159 --> 02:29:28.360
<v Speaker 3>out of the service, or you're coming back from active

3155
02:29:28.399 --> 02:29:31.159
<v Speaker 3>duty or something like that, is there anything that would

3156
02:29:31.360 --> 02:29:34.399
<v Speaker 3>you know, some kind of hypnotic suggestion that you can

3157
02:29:34.399 --> 02:29:36.959
<v Speaker 3>give somebody that, like, look, you were only trained to

3158
02:29:37.000 --> 02:29:39.120
<v Speaker 3>have this mindset so that you can go over there

3159
02:29:39.600 --> 02:29:41.680
<v Speaker 3>and do what you were meant to do. But now

3160
02:29:41.680 --> 02:29:43.760
<v Speaker 3>you're back in the real world. You love your you

3161
02:29:43.840 --> 02:29:46.479
<v Speaker 3>love your wife, you love your kids. You're a good husband,

3162
02:29:46.479 --> 02:29:49.159
<v Speaker 3>you're a good father, you're a good worker at your job.

3163
02:29:49.239 --> 02:29:52.159
<v Speaker 3>You love being able to supply for your family. And

3164
02:29:52.239 --> 02:29:55.440
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like, if that's possible, I

3165
02:29:55.479 --> 02:29:57.120
<v Speaker 3>think that that should be something that would be that

3166
02:29:57.639 --> 02:29:58.600
<v Speaker 3>could be implemented.

3167
02:29:59.239 --> 02:30:03.639
<v Speaker 5>There's ay that's offered through the VA for literally this,

3168
02:30:04.719 --> 02:30:06.760
<v Speaker 5>but I mean for especially guys that are like taking

3169
02:30:06.799 --> 02:30:10.600
<v Speaker 5>prisoner and are tortured and brainwashed in that regard. Oh yeah,

3170
02:30:10.600 --> 02:30:14.840
<v Speaker 5>there's all kinds of like debriefing, de brainwashing that takes place.

3171
02:30:14.879 --> 02:30:18.760
<v Speaker 5>Don't get me wrong, but again we're talking about a

3172
02:30:18.799 --> 02:30:22.319
<v Speaker 5>brainwashing quote unquote that makes you a productive human being.

3173
02:30:23.000 --> 02:30:25.280
<v Speaker 5>So many dudes that I met in boot camp, a

3174
02:30:25.280 --> 02:30:28.840
<v Speaker 5>lot of them great guys had some work experience, were

3175
02:30:28.840 --> 02:30:30.879
<v Speaker 5>there to do a job, and like they already had

3176
02:30:30.920 --> 02:30:34.920
<v Speaker 5>the right mindset getting in there. Other guys were fucking

3177
02:30:35.239 --> 02:30:39.879
<v Speaker 5>useless and like had no skill set to offer to

3178
02:30:40.000 --> 02:30:44.440
<v Speaker 5>anyone or anything. They were coddled their entire life. They

3179
02:30:44.520 --> 02:30:46.920
<v Speaker 5>had no idea what the real world was about, and

3180
02:30:46.920 --> 02:30:50.440
<v Speaker 5>not even like combat, just being a normal, productive adult

3181
02:30:50.520 --> 02:30:53.799
<v Speaker 5>human being. And so you had to break them down

3182
02:30:53.879 --> 02:30:57.040
<v Speaker 5>and break them out of that little uh belief that

3183
02:30:57.079 --> 02:30:58.920
<v Speaker 5>mommy and daddy be able to take care of them,

3184
02:30:59.079 --> 02:31:01.159
<v Speaker 5>and you had to teach them how to stand on

3185
02:31:01.159 --> 02:31:06.079
<v Speaker 5>their own two feet and be a man Jackets, that's

3186
02:31:06.559 --> 02:31:10.520
<v Speaker 5>really I mean, there is a level of that, yeah,

3187
02:31:10.520 --> 02:31:13.079
<v Speaker 5>but more like just you know what I mean, dudes,

3188
02:31:13.399 --> 02:31:16.120
<v Speaker 5>and for anybody out there that doesn't, I'm not trying

3189
02:31:16.120 --> 02:31:18.600
<v Speaker 5>to offend anybody with my statement here, Just bear with me.

3190
02:31:19.360 --> 02:31:21.879
<v Speaker 5>Do you know how many guys didn't know how to

3191
02:31:22.000 --> 02:31:25.840
<v Speaker 5>tie a tie at boot camp? That blew my mind.

3192
02:31:25.840 --> 02:31:27.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to do that.

3193
02:31:28.799 --> 02:31:30.719
<v Speaker 4>I wasn't trying to offend nobody. I didn't know if

3194
02:31:30.719 --> 02:31:31.760
<v Speaker 4>that was only ever.

3195
02:31:31.639 --> 02:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Worn a tie I think one time in my life,

3196
02:31:33.760 --> 02:31:34.719
<v Speaker 2>and that was from my wedding.

3197
02:31:35.319 --> 02:31:39.000
<v Speaker 5>Most of these guys either a netting, come from a

3198
02:31:39.040 --> 02:31:42.520
<v Speaker 5>position where they even owned a suit growing up, right,

3199
02:31:42.719 --> 02:31:45.440
<v Speaker 5>or they didn't have a dad growing up to teach

3200
02:31:45.479 --> 02:31:47.280
<v Speaker 5>them how to tie a tie, so they never did

3201
02:31:47.280 --> 02:31:47.639
<v Speaker 5>these things.

3202
02:31:47.680 --> 02:31:48.559
<v Speaker 4>And that's my point.

3203
02:31:48.719 --> 02:31:51.200
<v Speaker 5>You get guys from all different types of walks of life,

3204
02:31:51.559 --> 02:31:54.520
<v Speaker 5>and it's time to teach you how to iron your clothing,

3205
02:31:54.840 --> 02:31:57.920
<v Speaker 5>how to make your bed, how to properly tend to

3206
02:31:57.959 --> 02:31:59.239
<v Speaker 5>your own personal hygiene.

3207
02:31:59.280 --> 02:32:01.360
<v Speaker 4>You would be fucked shocked.

3208
02:32:01.239 --> 02:32:04.360
<v Speaker 5>How many of these people didn't know that you should

3209
02:32:04.399 --> 02:32:06.600
<v Speaker 5>brush your teeth more than twice a day, more than

3210
02:32:06.600 --> 02:32:07.000
<v Speaker 5>once a day.

3211
02:32:07.040 --> 02:32:10.159
<v Speaker 3>It's like crazy the type of dad that you have though, Like,

3212
02:32:10.239 --> 02:32:14.920
<v Speaker 3>for example, my dad was extremely strict.

3213
02:32:14.879 --> 02:32:18.479
<v Speaker 2>And it very very you know, short fuse kind of thing.

3214
02:32:18.840 --> 02:32:21.200
<v Speaker 3>So if he was ever teaching me anything, and he

3215
02:32:21.239 --> 02:32:23.000
<v Speaker 3>would be like, all right, watch me, watch me as

3216
02:32:23.040 --> 02:32:25.399
<v Speaker 3>I do this, And he wouldn't say anything as I'm

3217
02:32:25.440 --> 02:32:26.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, as he's teaching me how to work on

3218
02:32:26.959 --> 02:32:28.879
<v Speaker 3>a car or tie a tie or you know shit

3219
02:32:29.000 --> 02:32:29.319
<v Speaker 3>like that.

3220
02:32:29.680 --> 02:32:31.479
<v Speaker 2>It would just be like, I have to watch him.

3221
02:32:31.520 --> 02:32:34.159
<v Speaker 3>If I if I have to ask any questions, who

3222
02:32:34.920 --> 02:32:37.680
<v Speaker 3>fucking all hell is going to break loose? And so

3223
02:32:38.120 --> 02:32:40.639
<v Speaker 3>then at the end of you know, him showing you something,

3224
02:32:40.920 --> 02:32:43.079
<v Speaker 3>he would be like he would be like, all right,

3225
02:32:43.079 --> 02:32:45.639
<v Speaker 3>you get it, and you you don't get it, but

3226
02:32:45.799 --> 02:32:47.399
<v Speaker 3>you don't want to say that you don't get it

3227
02:32:47.600 --> 02:32:50.639
<v Speaker 3>because you're you're almost in fear of conflict.

3228
02:32:50.760 --> 02:32:54.440
<v Speaker 4>You know, I understand this, right, But that's my point.

3229
02:32:54.479 --> 02:32:58.440
<v Speaker 5>You get guys from all different backgrounds and you have

3230
02:32:58.479 --> 02:33:01.799
<v Speaker 5>to get them on the same page and moving forward

3231
02:33:01.879 --> 02:33:05.000
<v Speaker 5>in the same direction with a common goal, with a

3232
02:33:05.040 --> 02:33:09.360
<v Speaker 5>common attitude to accomplish that. There is a bit of

3233
02:33:09.440 --> 02:33:12.719
<v Speaker 5>some what some might call brainwashing that takes place, but again,

3234
02:33:13.200 --> 02:33:16.200
<v Speaker 5>that's not unproductive and that's not something that you would

3235
02:33:16.239 --> 02:33:18.959
<v Speaker 5>necessarily want to d.

3236
02:33:18.520 --> 02:33:20.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, undo to yourself.

3237
02:33:20.079 --> 02:33:22.280
<v Speaker 5>You you would want to take that kind of knowledge

3238
02:33:22.280 --> 02:33:27.040
<v Speaker 5>in fortitude and can do attitude in you know, forward

3239
02:33:27.079 --> 02:33:27.879
<v Speaker 5>with entire.

3240
02:33:27.840 --> 02:33:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't saying that, you know, you would want to

3241
02:33:29.479 --> 02:33:31.680
<v Speaker 3>do one hundred percent wipe by any means. I'm just

3242
02:33:31.680 --> 02:33:33.600
<v Speaker 3>talking about, you know, maybe some of the issues that

3243
02:33:33.719 --> 02:33:36.000
<v Speaker 3>would or could carry over into your real life.

3244
02:33:36.079 --> 02:33:36.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they have.

3245
02:33:37.120 --> 02:33:38.760
<v Speaker 5>They have a lot of different types of therapy for

3246
02:33:38.799 --> 02:33:42.079
<v Speaker 5>different types of PTSD. Not all are combat related, not

3247
02:33:42.200 --> 02:33:45.719
<v Speaker 5>all or you know, trauma affects people different ways, dude.

3248
02:33:45.719 --> 02:33:46.680
<v Speaker 4>I remember seeing a meme.

3249
02:33:46.840 --> 02:33:50.319
<v Speaker 5>It was like a chihuahuah and a Saint Bernard and

3250
02:33:50.360 --> 02:33:52.639
<v Speaker 5>they had both gone through a mud puddle that was

3251
02:33:52.680 --> 02:33:53.920
<v Speaker 5>like eight inches tall.

3252
02:33:54.639 --> 02:33:56.959
<v Speaker 4>Right, And it was like, just because you went through

3253
02:33:56.959 --> 02:33:59.959
<v Speaker 4>the same experience doesn't mean it hits you the same way. Right.

3254
02:34:00.079 --> 02:34:04.680
<v Speaker 5>Everybody deals with situations differently. Some guys get to combat

3255
02:34:04.719 --> 02:34:06.000
<v Speaker 5>and they get shot at and.

3256
02:34:05.879 --> 02:34:10.000
<v Speaker 4>They love it. This is their shit. They thrive in

3257
02:34:10.040 --> 02:34:10.719
<v Speaker 4>this environment.

3258
02:34:10.840 --> 02:34:13.280
<v Speaker 5>Other guys get shot at and they break down and

3259
02:34:13.319 --> 02:34:16.879
<v Speaker 5>they suffer serious trauma because of it. No shade being

3260
02:34:16.920 --> 02:34:19.600
<v Speaker 5>thrown on either side of this coin. Everybody deals with

3261
02:34:19.639 --> 02:34:23.120
<v Speaker 5>things in different ways. So yeah, so yeah, there's therapy

3262
02:34:23.159 --> 02:34:25.360
<v Speaker 5>and stuff like that to answer your question, to help

3263
02:34:25.440 --> 02:34:29.040
<v Speaker 5>somebody break away from who they once were into who

3264
02:34:29.120 --> 02:34:31.879
<v Speaker 5>they are now. And that's also something that a lot

3265
02:34:31.879 --> 02:34:34.639
<v Speaker 5>of veterans suffer from, not just combat vets, but when

3266
02:34:34.639 --> 02:34:36.799
<v Speaker 5>you're in the military, you have a sense of purpose,

3267
02:34:37.360 --> 02:34:39.840
<v Speaker 5>You have a sense of who you are, and I

3268
02:34:39.879 --> 02:34:42.040
<v Speaker 5>don't like the fact that a lot of people attach

3269
02:34:42.079 --> 02:34:44.280
<v Speaker 5>who they are to their job title in any way.

3270
02:34:44.319 --> 02:34:47.280
<v Speaker 5>But at the same time, there's lanes to it, right.

3271
02:34:47.719 --> 02:34:51.000
<v Speaker 5>Your rank is one line of that lane. Your billet

3272
02:34:51.120 --> 02:34:54.920
<v Speaker 5>or your job or your assigned role is the other lane.

3273
02:34:54.920 --> 02:34:57.159
<v Speaker 5>And as long as you stay between the two lines

3274
02:34:57.319 --> 02:35:00.879
<v Speaker 5>in your lane, you're doing great. Right Now, you get

3275
02:35:00.920 --> 02:35:04.639
<v Speaker 5>out of the military, there's no lines. There's no lines,

3276
02:35:04.680 --> 02:35:07.360
<v Speaker 5>and everybody is swerving over in this lane, in that lane.

3277
02:35:07.399 --> 02:35:09.520
<v Speaker 5>Then I get looked at like the asshole for telling

3278
02:35:09.520 --> 02:35:11.639
<v Speaker 5>this person get the fuck back in their lane and

3279
02:35:11.639 --> 02:35:16.040
<v Speaker 5>get out of mind. It's a transitional period and a

3280
02:35:16.079 --> 02:35:17.840
<v Speaker 5>lot of that are and suffer with that because they

3281
02:35:17.879 --> 02:35:20.639
<v Speaker 5>feel like they lose themselves, they lose their sense of purpose.

3282
02:35:21.120 --> 02:35:23.760
<v Speaker 5>They don't learn until years later that no, dude, it's

3283
02:35:23.760 --> 02:35:26.399
<v Speaker 5>on you now. You create your purpose. You got to

3284
02:35:26.440 --> 02:35:28.840
<v Speaker 5>get out there and find your purpose, whatever that might be.

3285
02:35:29.440 --> 02:35:32.120
<v Speaker 5>But you also have the freedom to do that now

3286
02:35:32.120 --> 02:35:35.280
<v Speaker 5>and figure it out for yourself. And that's scary for

3287
02:35:35.319 --> 02:35:35.920
<v Speaker 5>a lot of guys.

3288
02:35:36.000 --> 02:35:38.559
<v Speaker 3>There are a lot of people that definitely define themselves

3289
02:35:38.639 --> 02:35:41.920
<v Speaker 3>by their job title, and sometimes it's a little bit cringey,

3290
02:35:42.120 --> 02:35:44.920
<v Speaker 3>like you know, working in the plant, Like those guys

3291
02:35:44.920 --> 02:35:47.079
<v Speaker 3>that have those big trucks and they got a fucking

3292
02:35:47.159 --> 02:35:49.799
<v Speaker 3>dekel on the back of their window that says iron worker.

3293
02:35:50.120 --> 02:35:52.479
<v Speaker 3>You know what it's like, all right, Bud? I mean, yeah,

3294
02:35:52.600 --> 02:35:55.079
<v Speaker 3>surely you have something more to you than just your job,

3295
02:35:55.280 --> 02:35:55.600
<v Speaker 3>you know.

3296
02:35:56.079 --> 02:35:57.520
<v Speaker 4>But that's a whole thing.

3297
02:35:57.959 --> 02:36:00.559
<v Speaker 5>It's like all they got going for them is that thing,

3298
02:36:01.000 --> 02:36:03.639
<v Speaker 5>you know, And it's a and I feel bad for

3299
02:36:03.680 --> 02:36:06.559
<v Speaker 5>them in one sense, but also like, okay, you found

3300
02:36:06.559 --> 02:36:06.959
<v Speaker 5>something that.

3301
02:36:06.920 --> 02:36:07.760
<v Speaker 4>Speaks to you.

3302
02:36:07.760 --> 02:36:10.319
<v Speaker 5>You love your job, even though every time I ask

3303
02:36:10.399 --> 02:36:12.360
<v Speaker 5>you about it, all you do is bitch and complain

3304
02:36:13.159 --> 02:36:16.479
<v Speaker 5>about things about your job. But like, whatever, Okay, if

3305
02:36:16.479 --> 02:36:18.479
<v Speaker 5>that was that's your sense of purpose, then cool.

3306
02:36:18.639 --> 02:36:20.239
<v Speaker 3>That was something that I used to see a lot

3307
02:36:20.280 --> 02:36:23.559
<v Speaker 3>whenever I was working offshore. Dude, the captains just love

3308
02:36:23.719 --> 02:36:27.319
<v Speaker 3>putting a decal, captain whatever, so and so it's like,

3309
02:36:27.479 --> 02:36:29.360
<v Speaker 3>all right, but I mean, you think you're gonna get

3310
02:36:29.399 --> 02:36:31.559
<v Speaker 3>more respect in traffic or you know what I mean?

3311
02:36:31.639 --> 02:36:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Like, what do you think you're going to get.

3312
02:36:32.760 --> 02:36:33.079
<v Speaker 4>Out of that?

3313
02:36:33.719 --> 02:36:36.760
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I remember I was a I find I

3314
02:36:36.879 --> 02:36:41.040
<v Speaker 5>got to a foreman position once upon a time and like,

3315
02:36:41.079 --> 02:36:43.799
<v Speaker 5>to me, that didn't okay, cool, I'm forming over a

3316
02:36:43.840 --> 02:36:47.959
<v Speaker 5>crew over a pipe yard, all right, and like it

3317
02:36:48.000 --> 02:36:49.239
<v Speaker 5>didn't it didn't matter to me.

3318
02:36:49.959 --> 02:36:52.079
<v Speaker 4>But to these other guys, like bro, you made foreman

3319
02:36:52.159 --> 02:36:56.719
<v Speaker 4>before you were thirty? WHOA, I'm like, and so, what

3320
02:36:57.120 --> 02:36:58.239
<v Speaker 4>that's it's my job.

3321
02:36:58.440 --> 02:37:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Imagine like putting a decol on the back of your

3322
02:37:00.840 --> 02:37:06.680
<v Speaker 3>car where you just butt podcaster, you know, no, so ridiculous.

3323
02:37:06.040 --> 02:37:08.120
<v Speaker 4>It's like I tried telling these dudes, it's like my

3324
02:37:08.200 --> 02:37:11.239
<v Speaker 4>life starts when I clock out of this bitch, Like,

3325
02:37:11.559 --> 02:37:13.479
<v Speaker 4>this is not my life for the ten to twelve

3326
02:37:13.520 --> 02:37:14.360
<v Speaker 4>hours that I'm here.

3327
02:37:14.440 --> 02:37:16.399
<v Speaker 5>This is what I'm doing to provide for my family.

3328
02:37:17.000 --> 02:37:19.399
<v Speaker 5>My life is on the other side of that gate,

3329
02:37:19.440 --> 02:37:22.000
<v Speaker 5>big dog. I'm sorry. As soon as I hit my car,

3330
02:37:22.600 --> 02:37:25.120
<v Speaker 5>i am all. I'm a different person. I go home

3331
02:37:25.159 --> 02:37:27.639
<v Speaker 5>and do my thing. I'm here because I have to be,

3332
02:37:27.760 --> 02:37:29.440
<v Speaker 5>not because I'm called to be here.

3333
02:37:29.799 --> 02:37:32.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, all right, we got a lot to burn

3334
02:37:32.440 --> 02:37:36.239
<v Speaker 3>throughcast half hour. Speaking of captains, We're gonna go Captain

3335
02:37:36.239 --> 02:37:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Phillips twenty thirteen. The branch involved was the US Navy.

3336
02:37:39.680 --> 02:37:43.360
<v Speaker 3>This dramatization of the Marisk So you say that Marisk

3337
02:37:43.399 --> 02:37:47.639
<v Speaker 3>Alabama hijacking, I think it's like the shipping container Marisk.

3338
02:37:47.719 --> 02:37:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Isn't that what that is?

3339
02:37:48.799 --> 02:37:50.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's the company, the ship and company.

3340
02:37:50.600 --> 02:37:51.879
<v Speaker 2>I think it's in Marisk anyway.

3341
02:37:52.040 --> 02:37:56.360
<v Speaker 3>The dramatization of the Marisk Alabama hijacking receives support from

3342
02:37:56.360 --> 02:37:59.559
<v Speaker 3>the US Navy, who even allowed use of real destroyers

3343
02:37:59.600 --> 02:38:03.799
<v Speaker 3>and see in the climatic climactic rescue scene. The film

3344
02:38:03.840 --> 02:38:07.840
<v Speaker 3>portrays the military as surgical, righteous, and above all necessary.

3345
02:38:08.000 --> 02:38:11.280
<v Speaker 3>When diplomacy fails, the message is clear, a bullet from

3346
02:38:11.280 --> 02:38:15.760
<v Speaker 3>a seal is the solution. Subconsciously, it programs viewers to

3347
02:38:15.799 --> 02:38:19.920
<v Speaker 3>associate modern piracy, which is deeply linked to systemic exploitation

3348
02:38:20.000 --> 02:38:23.879
<v Speaker 3>of African nations, with pure criminality. There is no context,

3349
02:38:23.959 --> 02:38:27.879
<v Speaker 3>only chaos and heroism. Captain Phillips isn't just a victim.

3350
02:38:27.959 --> 02:38:31.760
<v Speaker 3>He becomes a symbol of the vulnerable West, protected by

3351
02:38:31.879 --> 02:38:34.600
<v Speaker 3>only a strong, ever ready US military.

3352
02:38:35.559 --> 02:38:39.000
<v Speaker 5>Okay, yeah, a couple things to break down on that. One,

3353
02:38:39.280 --> 02:38:45.639
<v Speaker 5>piracy is majority done in the African nations. That's not

3354
02:38:45.760 --> 02:38:47.000
<v Speaker 5>like a propaganda thing.

3355
02:38:47.079 --> 02:38:49.360
<v Speaker 4>That's a correct statement as a matter of fact.

3356
02:38:49.639 --> 02:38:51.799
<v Speaker 5>Right now, Jonathan, you and I can go and place

3357
02:38:51.840 --> 02:38:55.360
<v Speaker 5>money on the Somali stock exchange. Do you know what

3358
02:38:55.760 --> 02:39:00.000
<v Speaker 5>we be betting on which pirate crew takes the largest

3359
02:39:00.239 --> 02:39:04.440
<v Speaker 5>loot this week? You can read, Yes, that is the

3360
02:39:04.520 --> 02:39:08.559
<v Speaker 5>Somali stock exchange quote unquote. That's a real thing you're doing. Wow,

3361
02:39:08.559 --> 02:39:10.399
<v Speaker 5>And it's not Yeah, that's that's a part of them.

3362
02:39:10.440 --> 02:39:13.520
<v Speaker 5>It's systemic. Yeah, it is because these are poor countries

3363
02:39:13.559 --> 02:39:15.600
<v Speaker 5>and that's the best shot they got it. Earning something

3364
02:39:15.719 --> 02:39:19.520
<v Speaker 5>is from you know, throwing explosives around the bottom leg

3365
02:39:19.639 --> 02:39:22.840
<v Speaker 5>of an oil rig and ransoming off the crew to

3366
02:39:23.000 --> 02:39:24.319
<v Speaker 5>the company that sent them there.

3367
02:39:24.399 --> 02:39:28.319
<v Speaker 4>Things like this happen all the time, like weekly. Okay,

3368
02:39:29.200 --> 02:39:33.120
<v Speaker 4>Captain Phillips knew this, and his crew said, why don't

3369
02:39:33.120 --> 02:39:35.760
<v Speaker 4>we go this way where the pirates were out of

3370
02:39:35.840 --> 02:39:38.120
<v Speaker 4>range of the pirates. Let's do this. He was trying

3371
02:39:38.159 --> 02:39:40.719
<v Speaker 4>to make a deadline that they had way more than

3372
02:39:40.799 --> 02:39:43.879
<v Speaker 4>enough time to make. He chose that route on purpose

3373
02:39:43.920 --> 02:39:46.319
<v Speaker 4>and knowing that it was dangerous, and then got what

3374
02:39:46.520 --> 02:39:50.159
<v Speaker 4>was coming to him in that regard. So again this

3375
02:39:50.239 --> 02:39:53.239
<v Speaker 4>whole making the public feel like the victim of the

3376
02:39:53.280 --> 02:39:57.159
<v Speaker 4>poor Westerner and these these mean Africans and like, okay, yes,

3377
02:39:57.239 --> 02:39:59.200
<v Speaker 4>some of that might be true, but he's not a victim.

3378
02:39:59.319 --> 02:40:03.479
<v Speaker 5>He put himself from that position. So yeah, some things

3379
02:40:03.520 --> 02:40:06.159
<v Speaker 5>on that happen. Anyway, the seals did do a great job,

3380
02:40:06.239 --> 02:40:08.440
<v Speaker 5>and that was true to form. They actually did take

3381
02:40:08.479 --> 02:40:11.639
<v Speaker 5>the sniper shots from the bow or stern, I don't

3382
02:40:11.680 --> 02:40:13.799
<v Speaker 5>know of the destroyer.

3383
02:40:13.399 --> 02:40:16.000
<v Speaker 4>And took out all the pirates in one shot, well

3384
02:40:16.040 --> 02:40:18.159
<v Speaker 4>like six dudes that all fired at the exact same time.

3385
02:40:18.200 --> 02:40:18.959
<v Speaker 4>So that's dope.

3386
02:40:19.520 --> 02:40:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay.

3387
02:40:20.879 --> 02:40:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Nextly we have Pearl Harbor two thousand and one. The

3388
02:40:23.319 --> 02:40:26.479
<v Speaker 3>branches involved where the US Navy and the DoD. Michael

3389
02:40:26.479 --> 02:40:30.280
<v Speaker 3>Bay's Pearl Harbor received full Pentagon cooperation from access to

3390
02:40:30.360 --> 02:40:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Navy ships, to airfields and weaponry. While the film veers

3391
02:40:33.399 --> 02:40:36.600
<v Speaker 3>into romance, the battle scenes were meticulously coordinated with the

3392
02:40:36.639 --> 02:40:40.920
<v Speaker 3>DoD to ensure historical reverence and patriotic awe. The narrative

3393
02:40:40.959 --> 02:40:45.159
<v Speaker 3>subtly blames the Japanese without deep exploration of geopolitical tensions,

3394
02:40:45.360 --> 02:40:49.159
<v Speaker 3>making it easy to rally around American victimhood and vengeance.

3395
02:40:49.440 --> 02:40:52.719
<v Speaker 3>At a subconscious level. It invokes a sacred trauma, Pearl

3396
02:40:52.760 --> 02:40:56.399
<v Speaker 3>Harbor as the unifying origin story of American World War

3397
02:40:56.399 --> 02:41:00.760
<v Speaker 3>II glory. Emotional manipulation is rife. Swelling, meal music, slow

3398
02:41:00.799 --> 02:41:04.920
<v Speaker 3>motion death scenes, and stoic soldier sacrifices all work to

3399
02:41:05.120 --> 02:41:07.559
<v Speaker 3>fuse nationalism with sentimentality.

3400
02:41:08.079 --> 02:41:10.239
<v Speaker 2>It isn't just history, it's mythology.

3401
02:41:11.360 --> 02:41:13.040
<v Speaker 4>Okay, yeah, fair enough.

3402
02:41:13.280 --> 02:41:15.360
<v Speaker 5>Like I said, they did good as far as the

3403
02:41:15.360 --> 02:41:17.799
<v Speaker 5>battle scenes are concerned, and that was true as far

3404
02:41:17.799 --> 02:41:21.520
<v Speaker 5>as the chain of events that took place. But yeah,

3405
02:41:21.319 --> 02:41:24.040
<v Speaker 5>the whole love story thing, it wasn't necessary.

3406
02:41:24.120 --> 02:41:26.479
<v Speaker 2>That's what we would call creative liberties.

3407
02:41:27.079 --> 02:41:30.120
<v Speaker 3>Nextly, we have your movie Behind Enemy Lines two thousand

3408
02:41:30.120 --> 02:41:32.360
<v Speaker 3>and one, the branches involved with the US Navy and

3409
02:41:32.360 --> 02:41:35.479
<v Speaker 3>the DoD Behind Enemy Lines was released in the wake

3410
02:41:35.520 --> 02:41:37.920
<v Speaker 3>of nine to eleven. Though it was technically in production

3411
02:41:38.040 --> 02:41:41.680
<v Speaker 3>before the attacks, it became perfectly timed. With it became

3412
02:41:41.719 --> 02:41:46.600
<v Speaker 3>perfectly timed propaganda. The US Navy granted permission to use carriers, aircraft,

3413
02:41:46.639 --> 02:41:50.040
<v Speaker 3>and personnel, but only after several script changes. The Pentagon

3414
02:41:50.120 --> 02:41:52.479
<v Speaker 3>insisted that the film make it clear that the American

3415
02:41:52.479 --> 02:41:56.879
<v Speaker 3>military acts with moral superiority and technical precision, even when

3416
02:41:56.920 --> 02:42:00.760
<v Speaker 3>the bureaucrats failed them. The subconscious message is that oak soldiers,

3417
02:42:00.920 --> 02:42:04.200
<v Speaker 3>those who disobey orders for the quote unquote right reason,

3418
02:42:04.440 --> 02:42:07.799
<v Speaker 3>are still heroes. The enemy, in this case, the Serbian forces,

3419
02:42:08.120 --> 02:42:12.920
<v Speaker 3>is painted with broad strokes merciless, lawless, and animalistic. Viewers

3420
02:42:12.920 --> 02:42:16.760
<v Speaker 3>are taught to see American military personnel as not just warriors,

3421
02:42:16.959 --> 02:42:21.879
<v Speaker 3>but moral arbiters, capable of transcending politics to do what's

3422
02:42:22.000 --> 02:42:23.280
<v Speaker 3>in quotes, right.

3423
02:42:23.719 --> 02:42:28.200
<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, yeah. If you want to look at the

3424
02:42:28.319 --> 02:42:32.479
<v Speaker 4>history of what took place in Bosnia, and you know,

3425
02:42:32.559 --> 02:42:34.680
<v Speaker 4>the whole thing with the Serbian and the genocide and

3426
02:42:34.719 --> 02:42:38.680
<v Speaker 4>all that they were merciless. They were animals like that.

3427
02:42:38.879 --> 02:42:43.360
<v Speaker 4>They they they genocidally killed an entire race of people

3428
02:42:43.399 --> 02:42:45.719
<v Speaker 4>in a certain region of the world, and that was

3429
02:42:45.760 --> 02:42:50.120
<v Speaker 4>about to go unspoken of until this pilot got the

3430
02:42:50.159 --> 02:42:53.760
<v Speaker 4>evidence to prove it, and then the international court system

3431
02:42:53.799 --> 02:42:55.680
<v Speaker 4>was able to step in and do some things.

3432
02:42:55.760 --> 02:42:58.280
<v Speaker 5>But like, yeah, yeah, I'll want you one hundred percent.

3433
02:42:58.600 --> 02:43:01.159
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what he did to necessarily disobey orders.

3434
02:43:01.200 --> 02:43:03.239
<v Speaker 5>He was running for his life for the majority of

3435
02:43:03.280 --> 02:43:04.680
<v Speaker 5>the movie, But all right.

3436
02:43:05.479 --> 02:43:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's interesting that it was it did happen or

3437
02:43:08.159 --> 02:43:10.239
<v Speaker 3>they released This is the one that we said that

3438
02:43:10.280 --> 02:43:12.879
<v Speaker 3>it was due to be released mid January and then

3439
02:43:12.920 --> 02:43:15.760
<v Speaker 3>it ended up being released November thirtieth of two thousand

3440
02:43:15.799 --> 02:43:18.920
<v Speaker 3>and one. It's interesting, though, because we talk about how

3441
02:43:19.399 --> 02:43:22.200
<v Speaker 3>they you know, I don't know if it was subconscious

3442
02:43:22.239 --> 02:43:24.680
<v Speaker 3>programming or there were people in the know that absolutely

3443
02:43:24.760 --> 02:43:27.280
<v Speaker 3>knew that something like nine to eleven was going to

3444
02:43:27.319 --> 02:43:29.600
<v Speaker 3>be happening. You know, we talk about the insurance that

3445
02:43:29.680 --> 02:43:32.200
<v Speaker 3>was taken out for terrorist insurance that was in July

3446
02:43:32.399 --> 02:43:35.000
<v Speaker 3>or August of that year before nine to eleven, And

3447
02:43:35.040 --> 02:43:40.200
<v Speaker 3>it almost makes it very interesting timing that this movie

3448
02:43:40.520 --> 02:43:45.000
<v Speaker 3>was already scripted and like edited and getting ready to

3449
02:43:45.040 --> 02:43:49.600
<v Speaker 3>be posted, well posted in movie theaters, you know, just

3450
02:43:49.680 --> 02:43:52.360
<v Speaker 3>months after. You know, it's almost like maybe somebody in

3451
02:43:52.399 --> 02:43:53.079
<v Speaker 3>there new.

3452
02:43:53.639 --> 02:43:57.399
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and okay, now I'm thinking about it. Gene Hackman's

3453
02:43:57.520 --> 02:44:03.079
<v Speaker 5>character rip Gene Hackman. He did go against the bureaucracy

3454
02:44:03.360 --> 02:44:06.559
<v Speaker 5>and the orders of his superiors to go back and

3455
02:44:06.559 --> 02:44:08.639
<v Speaker 5>get this pilot. He was ordered to pretty much let

3456
02:44:08.680 --> 02:44:12.000
<v Speaker 5>the pilot like die, like, you know, just whatever. It's

3457
02:44:12.040 --> 02:44:14.879
<v Speaker 5>a casualty, it's an accident, but it's gonna cause even

3458
02:44:14.920 --> 02:44:17.159
<v Speaker 5>more of an international crisis and this and this, and

3459
02:44:17.200 --> 02:44:20.000
<v Speaker 5>he's like, hmm, fuck you, We're gonna go get our boy.

3460
02:44:20.520 --> 02:44:23.040
<v Speaker 5>And because of that, he was relieved of command. As

3461
02:44:23.079 --> 02:44:25.760
<v Speaker 5>a matter of fact, he was offered some administrative job

3462
02:44:25.799 --> 02:44:28.920
<v Speaker 5>in DC somewhere. He instead chose to retire with the

3463
02:44:28.959 --> 02:44:32.719
<v Speaker 5>respect of the crew and those that served under him. Yeah,

3464
02:44:32.840 --> 02:44:35.760
<v Speaker 5>fucking I would say that would be a hero in

3465
02:44:35.799 --> 02:44:36.319
<v Speaker 5>that regard.

3466
02:44:36.799 --> 02:44:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, next movie we have is The Guardian two thousand

3467
02:44:39.760 --> 02:44:42.559
<v Speaker 3>and six. The branch involved was obviously the US Coast Guard.

3468
02:44:42.959 --> 02:44:46.559
<v Speaker 3>This Kevin Costner Ashton Kutcher film was a full blown

3469
02:44:46.600 --> 02:44:49.360
<v Speaker 3>collaboration with the US Coast Guard, who used it as

3470
02:44:49.399 --> 02:44:53.920
<v Speaker 3>a recruitment film disguised as a rescue drama. Real Coastguard aircraft,

3471
02:44:54.040 --> 02:44:57.520
<v Speaker 3>training centers, and even personnel were used to give it authenticity.

3472
02:44:57.799 --> 02:45:01.000
<v Speaker 3>In exchange, the filmmakers allowed the Service to review the

3473
02:45:01.040 --> 02:45:05.040
<v Speaker 3>script to ensure accuracy and proper tone. At a psychological level,

3474
02:45:05.040 --> 02:45:08.399
<v Speaker 3>the Guardian sells the Coastguard as not only life saving,

3475
02:45:08.440 --> 02:45:13.680
<v Speaker 3>but spiritually redemptive. It elevates the service from bureaucratic obscurity

3476
02:45:13.719 --> 02:45:18.159
<v Speaker 3>to divine purpose. Sacrifice becomes sacred, and discipline is glamorized.

3477
02:45:18.399 --> 02:45:22.559
<v Speaker 3>Young viewers are emotionally cued to associate water rescue and

3478
02:45:22.760 --> 02:45:29.120
<v Speaker 3>uniforms with honor, brotherhood, and personal transformation. Okay, she did that,

3479
02:45:29.159 --> 02:45:30.959
<v Speaker 3>I would say it did that. It fucking inspired me.

3480
02:45:31.040 --> 02:45:32.879
<v Speaker 3>I was like, damn, I might go join this.

3481
02:45:33.799 --> 02:45:35.959
<v Speaker 2>I was also like a huge Ashen Kutcher fan back

3482
02:45:36.000 --> 02:45:36.920
<v Speaker 2>in the day, not now.

3483
02:45:37.639 --> 02:45:40.239
<v Speaker 5>It was more of a story of a guy who

3484
02:45:40.280 --> 02:45:43.520
<v Speaker 5>was running from his past at his home that wasn't

3485
02:45:43.559 --> 02:45:47.680
<v Speaker 5>his fault at all, trying to make something of himself

3486
02:45:48.040 --> 02:45:50.840
<v Speaker 5>super far away from home, and because he was some

3487
02:45:50.879 --> 02:45:55.120
<v Speaker 5>sort of a stud swimmer, the cadre who was in

3488
02:45:55.239 --> 02:45:57.079
<v Speaker 5>charge of training him had to put him in his place.

3489
02:45:57.559 --> 02:46:00.639
<v Speaker 5>That seems to be the overarching theme in the movie.

3490
02:46:00.760 --> 02:46:03.479
<v Speaker 5>It was a Coast Guard recruiting tool, and good god,

3491
02:46:03.520 --> 02:46:06.680
<v Speaker 5>the coasts have not had a decent movie before or since,

3492
02:46:06.719 --> 02:46:07.559
<v Speaker 5>I might add.

3493
02:46:07.399 --> 02:46:11.399
<v Speaker 3>So, Yeah, nextly, we have clear and Present Danger From

3494
02:46:11.520 --> 02:46:14.440
<v Speaker 3>nineteen ninety four, the branches involved with the CIA and

3495
02:46:14.479 --> 02:46:18.760
<v Speaker 3>the Department of Defense film. This film, adaptation of a

3496
02:46:18.840 --> 02:46:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Tom Clancy novel, had support from both the Pentagon and

3497
02:46:22.120 --> 02:46:26.159
<v Speaker 3>CIA consultants. The government wanted to control how covert operations

3498
02:46:26.159 --> 02:46:29.799
<v Speaker 3>were portrayed, particularly the depiction of black ops missions in

3499
02:46:29.840 --> 02:46:34.600
<v Speaker 3>Latin America. While the film does does show some internal

3500
02:46:34.639 --> 02:46:37.959
<v Speaker 3>conflict and cover ups, the end message supports the intelligence

3501
02:46:37.959 --> 02:46:42.639
<v Speaker 3>community as being led by moral patriots like Jack Ryan. Subconsciously,

3502
02:46:42.840 --> 02:46:45.600
<v Speaker 3>it instills the idea that while bad actors exist in

3503
02:46:45.639 --> 02:46:50.120
<v Speaker 3>the government, the institutions themselves are sound and salvageable. Jack

3504
02:46:50.200 --> 02:46:53.159
<v Speaker 3>Ryan is the quote unquote good guy within the system.

3505
02:46:53.639 --> 02:46:58.319
<v Speaker 3>Within the system trope, conditioning viewers to trust the institution,

3506
02:46:58.719 --> 02:47:04.000
<v Speaker 3>not the individual players. Its classic controlled descent present present

3507
02:47:04.079 --> 02:47:07.600
<v Speaker 3>the illusion of corruption, but reassure the audience that the

3508
02:47:07.719 --> 02:47:09.959
<v Speaker 3>system has self correcting heroes.

3509
02:47:10.879 --> 02:47:14.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, shouts out to Harrison Ford. One of the better roles.

3510
02:47:14.200 --> 02:47:15.639
<v Speaker 4>I might add, I don't think I've seen him in

3511
02:47:15.680 --> 02:47:18.600
<v Speaker 4>many bad ones, but yeah, clear in Prisent Danger, I

3512
02:47:18.680 --> 02:47:19.879
<v Speaker 4>was a banger of a movie.

3513
02:47:21.200 --> 02:47:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Nextly we have Argo twenty twelve. The branch involved was

3514
02:47:24.200 --> 02:47:27.959
<v Speaker 3>the CIA. Argo was made in close collaboration with the CIA,

3515
02:47:28.920 --> 02:47:32.159
<v Speaker 3>which used the film as a way to rehabilitate its

3516
02:47:32.200 --> 02:47:36.000
<v Speaker 3>image after years of controversy. The agency provided access to

3517
02:47:36.079 --> 02:47:40.479
<v Speaker 3>declassified materials, arranged interviews with operatives, and help shape the

3518
02:47:40.520 --> 02:47:43.639
<v Speaker 3>portrayal of its involvement in the nineteen seventy nine Iran

3519
02:47:43.719 --> 02:47:48.799
<v Speaker 3>hostage crisis. The former CIA operative Tony Mendez, was heavily consulted,

3520
02:47:48.959 --> 02:47:52.040
<v Speaker 3>and the CIA took credit for the successful rescue operation.

3521
02:47:52.440 --> 02:47:56.120
<v Speaker 3>The subliminal message is clear, the CIA saves lives, works

3522
02:47:56.120 --> 02:48:01.840
<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes, and deserves public gratitude, not scrutiny. If only,

3523
02:48:02.000 --> 02:48:06.159
<v Speaker 3>if only we could dress the CIA argo. Argo doesn't

3524
02:48:06.239 --> 02:48:08.719
<v Speaker 3>dwell on the political causes of the crisis or the

3525
02:48:08.719 --> 02:48:12.319
<v Speaker 3>broader Middle East chaos linked to US foreign policy. Instead,

3526
02:48:12.520 --> 02:48:16.440
<v Speaker 3>it creates a feel good narrative that humanizes the CIA

3527
02:48:16.479 --> 02:48:20.479
<v Speaker 3>and frames them as an international or as international problem solvers,

3528
02:48:20.719 --> 02:48:23.760
<v Speaker 3>not global medalers, which is actually what they are.

3529
02:48:25.159 --> 02:48:27.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So the breakdown of this one.

3530
02:48:27.239 --> 02:48:31.319
<v Speaker 5>On November fourth, nineteen seventy nine, militants stormed the US

3531
02:48:31.399 --> 02:48:36.600
<v Speaker 5>embassy in Tehran, Iran. This is right before the Islamic

3532
02:48:36.639 --> 02:48:39.000
<v Speaker 5>Republic took over and all these things, right, this is

3533
02:48:39.600 --> 02:48:41.959
<v Speaker 5>around that time when the revolution was taking place and

3534
02:48:42.280 --> 02:48:47.680
<v Speaker 5>the Ayatola took over. But anyway, they took over the embassy,

3535
02:48:47.840 --> 02:48:51.680
<v Speaker 5>taking sixty six American hostages. Amid the chaos, six Americans

3536
02:48:51.719 --> 02:48:55.200
<v Speaker 5>managed to slip away and find refuge with the Canadian ambassador.

3537
02:48:56.000 --> 02:48:57.799
<v Speaker 5>Knowing that it's just a matter of time before the

3538
02:48:57.840 --> 02:49:00.440
<v Speaker 5>refugees are are found in like the executed at the

3539
02:49:00.520 --> 02:49:05.079
<v Speaker 5>US government calls in an extractor, Tony Mendez played by Benifleck,

3540
02:49:05.680 --> 02:49:09.200
<v Speaker 5>to rescue them. Mendez's plan is to pose as a

3541
02:49:09.239 --> 02:49:14.959
<v Speaker 5>Hollywood producer, scouting locations in Iran to train the refugees

3542
02:49:15.000 --> 02:49:21.000
<v Speaker 5>to act as his film crew. So okay, yeah, that's

3543
02:49:21.079 --> 02:49:22.479
<v Speaker 5>a story that actually took place.

3544
02:49:22.479 --> 02:49:26.479
<v Speaker 3>Apparently, all right, we're gonna keep on rolling to the

3545
02:49:26.479 --> 02:49:28.879
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three movie called The Recruit. The branch

3546
02:49:28.920 --> 02:49:32.760
<v Speaker 3>involved was a CIA. This thriller was practically a recruitment

3547
02:49:32.799 --> 02:49:36.559
<v Speaker 3>film for the CIA. It starred al Pacino, and Colin Ferrell,

3548
02:49:36.879 --> 02:49:40.639
<v Speaker 3>with much of the plot centered around CIA training, loyalty tests,

3549
02:49:40.760 --> 02:49:45.719
<v Speaker 3>and espionage glamour. The CIA's Office of Public Affairs approved

3550
02:49:45.760 --> 02:49:49.200
<v Speaker 3>access to Langley and worked with screenwriters to ensure a

3551
02:49:49.239 --> 02:49:54.000
<v Speaker 3>compelling yet favorable image of agency life. The psychological message

3552
02:49:54.120 --> 02:49:58.440
<v Speaker 3>here is seduction. The CIA is mysterious, elite and for

3553
02:49:58.520 --> 02:50:02.399
<v Speaker 3>the chosen few, appeals to young, smart viewers who want

3554
02:50:02.440 --> 02:50:05.920
<v Speaker 3>to believe that they have a secret destiny. Even the

3555
02:50:05.959 --> 02:50:10.159
<v Speaker 3>betrayal subplot doesn't fully undermine the agency's aura, It only

3556
02:50:10.200 --> 02:50:14.239
<v Speaker 3>reinforces the notion that that trust is earned, not assumed.

3557
02:50:14.559 --> 02:50:15.200
<v Speaker 2>In essence.

3558
02:50:15.319 --> 02:50:19.840
<v Speaker 3>It's Harry Potter for spies, but with the CIA as hogwarts.

3559
02:50:20.760 --> 02:50:23.719
<v Speaker 5>Oh interesting, And it's one of those that tells you that, like,

3560
02:50:23.760 --> 02:50:27.280
<v Speaker 5>don't worry, the good guys always win, and don't you

3561
02:50:27.399 --> 02:50:31.559
<v Speaker 5>worry anything associated with our government is clearly the good guys.

3562
02:50:31.719 --> 02:50:34.200
<v Speaker 5>Completely go over the fact of the whole betrayal being

3563
02:50:34.239 --> 02:50:37.440
<v Speaker 5>an internal thing. Now there was like that, no, no,

3564
02:50:37.520 --> 02:50:40.680
<v Speaker 5>but the good guys won though, you know well, and

3565
02:50:40.719 --> 02:50:41.239
<v Speaker 5>this is the.

3566
02:50:41.200 --> 02:50:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Reason why so many people just blindly trust the government.

3567
02:50:44.680 --> 02:50:46.760
<v Speaker 3>If you think about it, it's really a lot of

3568
02:50:46.799 --> 02:50:50.040
<v Speaker 3>subconscious programming, as we're going over here that you know,

3569
02:50:50.840 --> 02:50:53.280
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the CIA wouldn't fuck its own people over.

3570
02:50:53.360 --> 02:50:56.079
<v Speaker 3>I've seen I've seen this show, or I've seen this movie.

3571
02:50:56.159 --> 02:50:59.639
<v Speaker 3>I know how they act. Meanwhile, it's literally those movies

3572
02:50:59.680 --> 02:51:03.680
<v Speaker 3>were fun and scripted to subconsciously send that message to

3573
02:51:03.719 --> 02:51:06.520
<v Speaker 3>you so that you don't question the authority, because now

3574
02:51:06.559 --> 02:51:11.520
<v Speaker 3>you have this belief via suggestion from a movie that

3575
02:51:11.559 --> 02:51:14.680
<v Speaker 3>you were hypnotically and induced into some kind of trans

3576
02:51:14.719 --> 02:51:16.879
<v Speaker 3>state in order to really go along, to get along,

3577
02:51:16.879 --> 02:51:24.360
<v Speaker 3>to trust the whole operation, right, crazy dude. Nextly, we

3578
02:51:24.479 --> 02:51:27.079
<v Speaker 3>have Meet the Parents. This is gonna be a funny one.

3579
02:51:27.920 --> 02:51:29.879
<v Speaker 3>Meet the Parents came out in two thousand. The branch

3580
02:51:29.920 --> 02:51:31.399
<v Speaker 3>involved was the CIA.

3581
02:51:31.920 --> 02:51:32.520
<v Speaker 4>Believe it or not.

3582
02:51:32.680 --> 02:51:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Meet the Parents had CIA consultation to help make Robert

3583
02:51:36.239 --> 02:51:40.399
<v Speaker 3>de Niro's XCIA character more believable. While this film wasn't

3584
02:51:40.440 --> 02:51:44.719
<v Speaker 3>a military recruitment ad, it subtly reinforced public intrigue and

3585
02:51:44.920 --> 02:51:49.600
<v Speaker 3>admiration for intelligence operatives, even in comedy. CIA advisors helped

3586
02:51:49.600 --> 02:51:53.799
<v Speaker 3>with backstory elements and dialogue to ensure that Jack Burns

3587
02:51:53.959 --> 02:51:57.239
<v Speaker 3>felt like a real retired agent. On the surface, it's

3588
02:51:57.280 --> 02:51:59.799
<v Speaker 3>a rom com, but dig deeper and you'll find messaging

3589
02:52:00.079 --> 02:52:04.200
<v Speaker 3>that frames intelligence agents as highly competent, morally upright, and

3590
02:52:04.280 --> 02:52:08.719
<v Speaker 3>even domestically protective. The underlying narrative is that even when

3591
02:52:08.760 --> 02:52:12.040
<v Speaker 3>spies retire, there's still the most dangerous men in the room,

3592
02:52:12.280 --> 02:52:15.719
<v Speaker 3>and we should respect that. The CIA becomes almost mythic.

3593
02:52:15.920 --> 02:52:19.159
<v Speaker 3>Even while you're laughing, I.

3594
02:52:19.120 --> 02:52:23.239
<v Speaker 4>Didn't get that from Jack Burns' character. I saw him

3595
02:52:23.239 --> 02:52:28.000
<v Speaker 4>as a fucking psychopath the entire movie. So I mean, yes,

3596
02:52:28.040 --> 02:52:31.799
<v Speaker 4>as far as having some sort of CI liaison on

3597
02:52:31.959 --> 02:52:34.520
<v Speaker 4>set to like make the character more believable, I get

3598
02:52:34.520 --> 02:52:35.680
<v Speaker 4>that with you one hundred percent.

3599
02:52:36.040 --> 02:52:38.959
<v Speaker 5>It didn't reinforce anything about like, yeah, man, you know

3600
02:52:39.000 --> 02:52:43.680
<v Speaker 5>the CIA, they're hardcore. I was like, he's a fucking psychopath.

3601
02:52:44.280 --> 02:52:47.719
<v Speaker 5>He's coming after this guy who is a actually good guy.

3602
02:52:48.360 --> 02:52:51.040
<v Speaker 5>He's going through his baggage without him knowing, he's tracking

3603
02:52:51.079 --> 02:52:51.920
<v Speaker 5>his movements.

3604
02:52:52.000 --> 02:52:53.520
<v Speaker 4>He's like, Yo, what the fuck?

3605
02:52:53.639 --> 02:52:56.200
<v Speaker 3>He has the basement that nobody knows about. And you

3606
02:52:56.280 --> 02:52:58.959
<v Speaker 3>get into the seat and everything right, and.

3607
02:52:58.920 --> 02:53:00.559
<v Speaker 5>They try to I think they try to make him

3608
02:53:00.559 --> 02:53:03.000
<v Speaker 5>seem like a Billy wall type character, which if anybody

3609
02:53:03.079 --> 02:53:06.159
<v Speaker 5>doesn't know who Billy Waugh is, highly recommend you look

3610
02:53:06.200 --> 02:53:09.159
<v Speaker 5>into this dude. This guy was operating from Vietnam to

3611
02:53:09.600 --> 02:53:13.639
<v Speaker 5>like into his late seventies hunting Osama Bin Laden and

3612
02:53:13.680 --> 02:53:16.360
<v Speaker 5>he found him multiple times with the US kept telling

3613
02:53:16.399 --> 02:53:17.159
<v Speaker 5>him to pull back.

3614
02:53:17.239 --> 02:53:19.520
<v Speaker 4>But there's a whole thing on that one true, but yeah,

3615
02:53:19.559 --> 02:53:20.079
<v Speaker 4>wild shit.

3616
02:53:20.239 --> 02:53:22.840
<v Speaker 3>It reminded me, like I this is how I kind

3617
02:53:22.840 --> 02:53:24.760
<v Speaker 3>of knew from an early age that like there's no

3618
02:53:24.840 --> 02:53:27.920
<v Speaker 3>such thing as an ex CIA agent. You know, like

3619
02:53:27.959 --> 02:53:30.319
<v Speaker 3>whenever you see that kind of shit, it's like are

3620
02:53:30.360 --> 02:53:30.879
<v Speaker 3>you are you?

3621
02:53:31.079 --> 02:53:32.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you want me to.

3622
02:53:32.000 --> 02:53:34.559
<v Speaker 3>Believe that there's no such thing as an x CIA agent,

3623
02:53:34.600 --> 02:53:38.040
<v Speaker 3>that you're always in it, even whenever you are spilling

3624
02:53:38.079 --> 02:53:40.399
<v Speaker 3>the beans and you know what I mean, Like, what's

3625
02:53:40.399 --> 02:53:42.399
<v Speaker 3>your fucking boy's name, the black dude with the dreads,

3626
02:53:43.319 --> 02:53:48.520
<v Speaker 3>uh Bustamante and Andy Boustamante. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't

3627
02:53:48.520 --> 02:53:50.200
<v Speaker 3>believe a fucking word that comes out of his mouth.

3628
02:53:51.360 --> 02:53:53.879
<v Speaker 4>Like I've said, I take him as a source for

3629
02:53:54.040 --> 02:53:57.319
<v Speaker 4>certain things, but I don't believe he's saying one truths

3630
02:53:57.479 --> 02:54:00.079
<v Speaker 4>pretty much ever, Right, you got to listen to the

3631
02:54:00.120 --> 02:54:03.280
<v Speaker 4>grain of truth that's there. Same with Sean Ryan. Yeah,

3632
02:54:03.280 --> 02:54:06.200
<v Speaker 4>he was a seal, but he was a CIA asset

3633
02:54:06.280 --> 02:54:08.760
<v Speaker 4>at one time. Now do I think he's still an asset.

3634
02:54:09.120 --> 02:54:11.799
<v Speaker 5>I personally don't think so, but I could understand why

3635
02:54:11.840 --> 02:54:14.000
<v Speaker 5>somebody would believe that and why you would need to

3636
02:54:14.040 --> 02:54:15.959
<v Speaker 5>take what he is saying with a grain of salt.

3637
02:54:16.000 --> 02:54:20.319
<v Speaker 2>Sure, agree to disagree on that one, but anyway.

3638
02:54:20.399 --> 02:54:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Nextly, we have the movie called Thirteen Hours, The Secret

3639
02:54:23.639 --> 02:54:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Soldiers of Bengazi that came out in twenty sixteen. The

3640
02:54:26.399 --> 02:54:30.639
<v Speaker 3>branch involved was the CIA. It's an unofficial cooperation though,

3641
02:54:30.680 --> 02:54:34.600
<v Speaker 3>which come on, it's obvious. While not officially endorsed by

3642
02:54:34.600 --> 02:54:38.520
<v Speaker 3>the CIA, Thirteen Hours was created with input from former

3643
02:54:38.559 --> 02:54:41.840
<v Speaker 3>operatives and serves as a kind of unofficial redemption piece

3644
02:54:41.879 --> 02:54:44.719
<v Speaker 3>for the agency. Michael Bay directed See what I'm Saying.

3645
02:54:44.799 --> 02:54:48.520
<v Speaker 3>It's always the same directors, It's the same actors. Michael

3646
02:54:48.520 --> 02:54:51.399
<v Speaker 3>Bay directed it with gritty reverence, portraying a group of

3647
02:54:51.440 --> 02:54:55.399
<v Speaker 3>CIA contractors fighting off an attack with minimal backup. Despite

3648
02:54:55.440 --> 02:55:00.600
<v Speaker 3>controversies over accuracy, the film shapes its heroes as professional, disciplined,

3649
02:55:00.639 --> 02:55:04.319
<v Speaker 3>and tragically unsupported. The subliminal programming here is that the

3650
02:55:04.360 --> 02:55:07.239
<v Speaker 3>CIA is filled with heroes who are only hindered by

3651
02:55:07.319 --> 02:55:12.000
<v Speaker 3>bureaucracy and or weak politicians. It paints the agency as

3652
02:55:12.040 --> 02:55:16.719
<v Speaker 3>competent and self sacrificing, even if officially abandoned. The audience

3653
02:55:16.719 --> 02:55:20.360
<v Speaker 3>walks away feeling admiration for the covert world, blaming external

3654
02:55:20.360 --> 02:55:24.200
<v Speaker 3>forces rather than the intelligence structure itself. It's a cinematic

3655
02:55:24.239 --> 02:55:26.600
<v Speaker 3>whitewash under the guise of a true story.

3656
02:55:27.879 --> 02:55:31.680
<v Speaker 5>No, you leave being pissed off at the CIA and

3657
02:55:31.719 --> 02:55:36.719
<v Speaker 5>feeling a sense of pride in the contractors, not CIA agents.

3658
02:55:36.840 --> 02:55:40.959
<v Speaker 5>The contractors who said, fuck that, I'm an American first

3659
02:55:40.959 --> 02:55:44.000
<v Speaker 5>and I'm a contractor second, who went in with no

3660
02:55:44.120 --> 02:55:46.959
<v Speaker 5>support after their CIA boss told them, if you go

3661
02:55:47.040 --> 02:55:50.000
<v Speaker 5>out there, you're pretty much losing your job, and they decided, no,

3662
02:55:50.120 --> 02:55:52.079
<v Speaker 5>fuck that, Americans are getting shot at.

3663
02:55:52.200 --> 02:55:52.840
<v Speaker 4>I'm leaving.

3664
02:55:53.360 --> 02:55:55.920
<v Speaker 5>You don't feel with a sense of pride towards the agency.

3665
02:55:56.159 --> 02:55:58.920
<v Speaker 5>Oh fuck, we talking about different structure for different folks.

3666
02:55:58.959 --> 02:56:01.079
<v Speaker 5>Not everybody thinks like you, Jacob. I think that you

3667
02:56:01.120 --> 02:56:02.120
<v Speaker 5>forget that sometimes?

3668
02:56:02.280 --> 02:56:02.559
<v Speaker 4>Did you?

3669
02:56:02.680 --> 02:56:02.719
<v Speaker 7>Do?

3670
02:56:02.760 --> 02:56:03.520
<v Speaker 4>You watch the movie?

3671
02:56:03.600 --> 02:56:03.719
<v Speaker 7>Right?

3672
02:56:03.959 --> 02:56:04.719
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know?

3673
02:56:05.040 --> 02:56:08.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay, go watch the movie. It's worth a watch, solid movie,

3674
02:56:09.000 --> 02:56:10.799
<v Speaker 4>and then look at the true story of what actually

3675
02:56:10.879 --> 02:56:14.319
<v Speaker 4>took place. You're gonna be pissed off that the agency

3676
02:56:14.479 --> 02:56:17.200
<v Speaker 4>was like, no, if we get involved, they'll come here next.

3677
02:56:17.639 --> 02:56:19.959
<v Speaker 4>It's like, I'm sorry, we have marines that are under

3678
02:56:19.959 --> 02:56:22.840
<v Speaker 4>fire and an ambassador that they're trying to kill. I

3679
02:56:22.879 --> 02:56:26.079
<v Speaker 4>know that I'm hired to protect you, CIA boy, but

3680
02:56:26.200 --> 02:56:29.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm also an American and I'm a former seal, So like,

3681
02:56:29.719 --> 02:56:33.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go save some American lives real quick, because

3682
02:56:33.520 --> 02:56:36.319
<v Speaker 4>you're not lifting a finger to do so, because you're

3683
02:56:36.319 --> 02:56:41.040
<v Speaker 4>afraid of your bureaucracy people coming after you. Like you're not. No,

3684
02:56:41.239 --> 02:56:43.719
<v Speaker 4>you don't feel pride in the CIA after that movie,

3685
02:56:43.719 --> 02:56:44.360
<v Speaker 4>that's insane.

3686
02:56:45.000 --> 02:56:47.120
<v Speaker 3>The next show or the next one is a show

3687
02:56:47.879 --> 02:56:51.399
<v Speaker 3>called as a CBS series called The Agency, which aired

3688
02:56:51.440 --> 02:56:53.040
<v Speaker 3>from two thousand and one to two thousand and three.

3689
02:56:53.200 --> 02:56:56.440
<v Speaker 3>The branch involved was a CIA. The CBS series or

3690
02:56:56.479 --> 02:57:00.479
<v Speaker 3>this CBS series was developed with direct involvement from this's

3691
02:57:00.520 --> 02:57:03.399
<v Speaker 3>Office of Public Affairs. The Agency used the show to

3692
02:57:03.479 --> 02:57:06.639
<v Speaker 3>normalize their operations in the public eye post Cold War

3693
02:57:06.959 --> 02:57:10.079
<v Speaker 3>and pre nine to eleven. Episodes were crafted to showcase

3694
02:57:10.079 --> 02:57:14.920
<v Speaker 3>CIA heroes combating international threats while sidestepping any mention of

3695
02:57:15.040 --> 02:57:18.760
<v Speaker 3>CIA overreach or failures. Interesting, this came out like right

3696
02:57:18.799 --> 02:57:19.680
<v Speaker 3>after nine to eleven.

3697
02:57:19.840 --> 02:57:23.920
<v Speaker 4>You know, the subconscious Patriarch was passed, I might add.

3698
02:57:24.000 --> 02:57:27.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, The subconscious function of the show was to implant

3699
02:57:27.399 --> 02:57:30.799
<v Speaker 3>the idea that the CIA is both ethical and essential.

3700
02:57:31.159 --> 02:57:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Every moral gray area is painted with nuance, but always

3701
02:57:34.520 --> 02:57:37.079
<v Speaker 3>leads back to the premise that's in quotes. They're the

3702
02:57:37.120 --> 02:57:39.959
<v Speaker 3>good guys doing the hard jobs that no one else will.

3703
02:57:40.559 --> 02:57:45.399
<v Speaker 3>It made surveillance sexy and espionage noble, all while conditioning

3704
02:57:45.440 --> 02:57:48.360
<v Speaker 3>the audience to cheer for intelligence over privacy.

3705
02:57:49.440 --> 02:57:54.200
<v Speaker 4>Yes, please spile on us harder, Governant, Daddy, please, yeah,

3706
02:57:54.360 --> 02:57:57.920
<v Speaker 4>please monitor my cell phone in my internet access even harder.

3707
02:57:58.239 --> 02:57:59.920
<v Speaker 4>You're such a good guy for doing it.

3708
02:58:00.120 --> 02:58:00.319
<v Speaker 7>What.

3709
02:58:01.319 --> 02:58:03.959
<v Speaker 3>Yes, the government is spying and listening in on every

3710
02:58:03.959 --> 02:58:06.319
<v Speaker 3>single conversation on my phone and through my TV and

3711
02:58:06.360 --> 02:58:07.520
<v Speaker 3>through all my electronics.

3712
02:58:07.559 --> 02:58:10.360
<v Speaker 2>But they need to do that because they care.

3713
02:58:11.239 --> 02:58:14.319
<v Speaker 4>It's like the husband that like gas what lights his

3714
02:58:14.399 --> 02:58:16.479
<v Speaker 4>wife's like, shut up, baby, you love being lied to.

3715
02:58:17.639 --> 02:58:18.280
<v Speaker 4>That's what this is.

3716
02:58:18.440 --> 02:58:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Okay.

3717
02:58:19.840 --> 02:58:23.399
<v Speaker 3>Nextly, we have the show called Alias, which aired from

3718
02:58:23.399 --> 02:58:25.000
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one to two thousand and six. See

3719
02:58:25.000 --> 02:58:27.760
<v Speaker 3>how they're all around two thousand and one. Here the

3720
02:58:27.760 --> 02:58:32.319
<v Speaker 3>branch involved was the CIA. Alias, created by JJ Abrams,

3721
02:58:32.360 --> 02:58:36.280
<v Speaker 3>starred Jennifer Garner as a CIA double agent. The CIA

3722
02:58:36.440 --> 02:58:40.360
<v Speaker 3>consulted on the series, helping shape Garner's portrayal and lending

3723
02:58:40.399 --> 02:58:44.520
<v Speaker 3>the agency a kind of glamorous credibility. Garner even prepared

3724
02:58:44.600 --> 02:58:47.959
<v Speaker 3>in a CIA recruitment ad that aired during the show,

3725
02:58:48.239 --> 02:58:52.079
<v Speaker 3>blurring the line between fiction and actual recruitment. The deeper

3726
02:58:52.120 --> 02:58:56.280
<v Speaker 3>psychological angle here was to feminize and humanize the intelligence world.

3727
02:58:56.520 --> 02:59:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Garner's character is emotional, loyal yet ruthless, giving viewers permission

3728
02:59:01.239 --> 02:59:05.280
<v Speaker 3>to empathize with those doing morally questionable work for the

3729
02:59:05.360 --> 02:59:09.479
<v Speaker 3>greater good end quotes, Alias also injected esoteric and occult

3730
02:59:09.479 --> 02:59:14.239
<v Speaker 3>symbolism oh shit, appealing to conspiracy aware viewers while steering

3731
02:59:14.239 --> 02:59:18.040
<v Speaker 3>them to trust the overarching structure of intelligence operations.

3732
02:59:19.200 --> 02:59:21.399
<v Speaker 5>So maybe I'm just speaking on behalf of myself here,

3733
02:59:21.440 --> 02:59:24.239
<v Speaker 5>but I feel like miscongeniality did a way better job

3734
02:59:24.280 --> 02:59:28.440
<v Speaker 5>of feminizing three letter agencies because she was an FBI agent,

3735
02:59:28.879 --> 02:59:32.600
<v Speaker 5>more than Alias did, like glamorizing it and all of that.

3736
02:59:32.680 --> 02:59:35.399
<v Speaker 5>Like Sandra Bullock did a really good job of making

3737
02:59:35.440 --> 02:59:37.680
<v Speaker 5>the FBI look like good guys on that one.

3738
02:59:37.719 --> 02:59:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, no matter how much foreskin she puts

3739
02:59:40.440 --> 02:59:42.040
<v Speaker 3>on her face, oh.

3740
02:59:41.840 --> 02:59:44.799
<v Speaker 2>My god, that's real shit, that's real shit though, you.

3741
02:59:45.000 --> 02:59:46.319
<v Speaker 4>Laugh, foreskin on her face?

3742
02:59:46.399 --> 02:59:48.200
<v Speaker 2>Doug, Oh, yeah, like that's what she says.

3743
02:59:48.280 --> 02:59:50.920
<v Speaker 3>Like, she goes on interviews and people are like, Sandra Bull,

3744
02:59:51.000 --> 02:59:53.479
<v Speaker 3>how are you You're like fucking almost sixty years old, Like,

3745
02:59:53.520 --> 02:59:55.239
<v Speaker 3>how do you still look like you're in your thirties?

3746
02:59:55.520 --> 02:59:57.719
<v Speaker 3>And she goes, well, there's this thing and it's this

3747
02:59:57.840 --> 03:00:00.120
<v Speaker 3>lotion and it has this stuff in there. It's basically

3748
03:00:00.159 --> 03:00:03.399
<v Speaker 3>foreskin from babies. And everybody was like, what the fuck

3749
03:00:03.440 --> 03:00:04.440
<v Speaker 3>are you talking about?

3750
03:00:05.200 --> 03:00:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, heard that. That's fucking wild.

3751
03:00:07.840 --> 03:00:10.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, dude, it's fucking the higher ups get real weird.

3752
03:00:11.959 --> 03:00:15.559
<v Speaker 3>So nextly we have the Jack Ryan Amazon series from

3753
03:00:15.559 --> 03:00:18.680
<v Speaker 3>twenty eighteen to present, still going the branch involved as

3754
03:00:18.760 --> 03:00:22.680
<v Speaker 3>the CIA. So Tom Clancy's Jack Ryan got a sleek

3755
03:00:22.760 --> 03:00:25.639
<v Speaker 3>reboot thanks to Amazon and at green light from the

3756
03:00:25.680 --> 03:00:30.239
<v Speaker 3>CIA's media liaisons. The show promotes the idea that young, brilliant,

3757
03:00:30.399 --> 03:00:34.239
<v Speaker 3>morally unshakable analysts are protecting the world from chaos. Real

3758
03:00:34.319 --> 03:00:38.639
<v Speaker 3>CIA lingo tech and tactical operations were reviewed and approved

3759
03:00:38.680 --> 03:00:43.360
<v Speaker 3>for accuracy, adding an air of legitimacy. Beneath the surface,

3760
03:00:43.479 --> 03:00:48.280
<v Speaker 3>Jack Ryan functions as neo liberal spy propaganda. It teaches

3761
03:00:48.879 --> 03:00:52.680
<v Speaker 3>viewers that America's meddling and foreign lands is necessary and

3762
03:00:52.760 --> 03:00:57.959
<v Speaker 3>surgical rather than imperal and exploitive. Complex geopolitical struggles are

3763
03:00:57.959 --> 03:01:01.600
<v Speaker 3>reduced to good versus evil, and the show subtly reinforces

3764
03:01:01.639 --> 03:01:04.399
<v Speaker 3>the idea that technocrats with guns and degrees are the

3765
03:01:04.440 --> 03:01:06.559
<v Speaker 3>answers to global instability.

3766
03:01:08.360 --> 03:01:10.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's totally the yep.

3767
03:01:11.559 --> 03:01:13.200
<v Speaker 2>CIA doing CIA shit.

3768
03:01:14.000 --> 03:01:16.879
<v Speaker 4>It's one of the most opinions. So I might say.

3769
03:01:17.159 --> 03:01:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Nextly, we have the show called twenty four aired from

3770
03:01:19.680 --> 03:01:21.040
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and one to ten.

3771
03:01:21.120 --> 03:01:22.799
<v Speaker 2>There's another two thousand and one show.

3772
03:01:23.399 --> 03:01:26.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, twenty four. That was a fucking good show when

3773
03:01:26.799 --> 03:01:27.079
<v Speaker 4>it was on.

3774
03:01:27.159 --> 03:01:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I remember that the branch involved or the branch is

3775
03:01:29.479 --> 03:01:33.520
<v Speaker 3>involved with the DoD and Homeland Security. Twenty four became

3776
03:01:33.559 --> 03:01:36.440
<v Speaker 3>famous for its real time thriller format and Jack Bauer's

3777
03:01:36.520 --> 03:01:39.719
<v Speaker 3>often brutal methods. Post nine to eleven, this show was

3778
03:01:39.799 --> 03:01:43.600
<v Speaker 3>held up by Homeland security officials as a cultural tool

3779
03:01:43.639 --> 03:01:46.600
<v Speaker 3>for justifying enhanced interrogation i e.

3780
03:01:46.760 --> 03:01:47.159
<v Speaker 2>Torture.

3781
03:01:47.639 --> 03:01:51.159
<v Speaker 3>While not directly funded, it was praised and promoted internally

3782
03:01:51.200 --> 03:01:55.120
<v Speaker 3>within defense circles for shaping public attitudes toward terrorism and

3783
03:01:55.200 --> 03:01:59.399
<v Speaker 3>surveillance or surveillance Rather, the subconscious effect of twenty four

3784
03:01:59.600 --> 03:02:04.079
<v Speaker 3>was in enormous. It normalized torture, illegal surveillance, UH, and

3785
03:02:04.280 --> 03:02:09.920
<v Speaker 3>preemptive action, desensitizing Americans to to the erosion of civil liberties.

3786
03:02:10.360 --> 03:02:13.079
<v Speaker 3>Bower wasn't just a hero, He was a patriot who

3787
03:02:13.159 --> 03:02:15.520
<v Speaker 3>had to break the rules to protect the innocent. The

3788
03:02:15.600 --> 03:02:19.920
<v Speaker 3>real message is, if you want safety, you must surrender oversight.

3789
03:02:21.000 --> 03:02:24.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, dude, fucking KEEFERD. Sutherland think he killed the role.

3790
03:02:24.200 --> 03:02:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Honestly.

3791
03:02:25.319 --> 03:02:28.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh, he definitely pumped it into the minds that you know, hey,

3792
03:02:28.479 --> 03:02:29.399
<v Speaker 3>we need surveillance.

3793
03:02:29.840 --> 03:02:33.120
<v Speaker 2>I cannot say that fucking word right now. There we go.

3794
03:02:34.520 --> 03:02:37.079
<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, it's it's been pumping that big brother.

3795
03:02:37.360 --> 03:02:39.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, they're just trying to pump into the subconscious

3796
03:02:39.319 --> 03:02:41.520
<v Speaker 3>minds of people that big brother has your back. It's

3797
03:02:41.559 --> 03:02:44.079
<v Speaker 3>not spying on you, it's spying for your well being.

3798
03:02:44.639 --> 03:02:47.520
<v Speaker 5>Which also, like, is torture still a thing that people

3799
03:02:47.520 --> 03:02:50.840
<v Speaker 5>are like about? Like, I'm cool with torturing bad guys.

3800
03:02:51.399 --> 03:02:53.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm good with this, I guess.

3801
03:02:53.040 --> 03:02:55.760
<v Speaker 3>So, Uh, nextly we have uh, this is gonna be

3802
03:02:55.760 --> 03:02:59.360
<v Speaker 3>a three first, So ncis, JAG and Hawaii five. Oh,

3803
03:02:59.399 --> 03:03:02.479
<v Speaker 3>the branches involved with the US Navy and the DoD

3804
03:03:03.040 --> 03:03:06.879
<v Speaker 3>These long running shows functioned as daytime soap operas for

3805
03:03:07.000 --> 03:03:10.200
<v Speaker 3>military pr All were developed with the support from the

3806
03:03:10.280 --> 03:03:13.520
<v Speaker 3>US Navy or Marine Corps, who use them to improve

3807
03:03:13.559 --> 03:03:17.239
<v Speaker 3>their image and increase incruitment or recruitment. Rather, the scripts

3808
03:03:17.319 --> 03:03:22.200
<v Speaker 3>are vetted to remove negative portrayals of military hierarchy or misconduct,

3809
03:03:22.319 --> 03:03:27.000
<v Speaker 3>unless they're quote unquote bad apple stories. The deeper programming

3810
03:03:27.159 --> 03:03:31.159
<v Speaker 3>is insidious. Loyalty to the military is framed as synonymous

3811
03:03:31.159 --> 03:03:35.200
<v Speaker 3>with patriotism, and justice is always served best with when

3812
03:03:35.239 --> 03:03:39.000
<v Speaker 3>the chain of command is obeyed. Corruption when it appears,

3813
03:03:39.079 --> 03:03:43.079
<v Speaker 3>is swiftly handled. Internally, these shows condition viewers to believe

3814
03:03:43.200 --> 03:03:46.920
<v Speaker 3>in the integrity of the institution over the reality of

3815
03:03:46.920 --> 03:03:49.280
<v Speaker 3>the whistleblowers cover ups or war crimes.

3816
03:03:50.319 --> 03:03:50.879
<v Speaker 4>That's fair.

3817
03:03:51.040 --> 03:03:53.079
<v Speaker 5>I mean a lot of the stuff that Jag had

3818
03:03:53.319 --> 03:03:56.920
<v Speaker 5>on the show is kind of like incis right, everybody

3819
03:03:56.959 --> 03:04:00.280
<v Speaker 5>loves NCIS and it's not a bad show going to

3820
03:04:00.319 --> 03:04:02.399
<v Speaker 5>shit on it by any means, But like, yeah, there

3821
03:04:02.520 --> 03:04:06.959
<v Speaker 5>is a criminal investigation unit within the military that handles

3822
03:04:06.959 --> 03:04:09.120
<v Speaker 5>things in house, but that doesn't mean that they're gonna

3823
03:04:09.120 --> 03:04:12.920
<v Speaker 5>hook you up. Because it's in house, you'll face federal

3824
03:04:13.000 --> 03:04:15.559
<v Speaker 5>jail time. For fucking around when you're in the military,

3825
03:04:15.680 --> 03:04:18.000
<v Speaker 5>so like it's it's absolutely a thing that takes place.

3826
03:04:18.600 --> 03:04:20.799
<v Speaker 3>The next show we have is or in the next

3827
03:04:20.840 --> 03:04:26.200
<v Speaker 3>I think. Yeah, as a show called Homeland from twenty

3828
03:04:26.239 --> 03:04:30.399
<v Speaker 3>eleven until twenty twenty, the branch involved was the CIA.

3829
03:04:30.479 --> 03:04:34.959
<v Speaker 3>Informal approval and post release praise from the CIA, Homeland

3830
03:04:35.000 --> 03:04:37.239
<v Speaker 3>was one of the most gripping modern spy dramas, with

3831
03:04:37.319 --> 03:04:41.719
<v Speaker 3>lead actors that include bipolar agents, double crossers, and global plots.

3832
03:04:41.920 --> 03:04:45.479
<v Speaker 3>Though not officially supported by the CIA, several former agents

3833
03:04:45.479 --> 03:04:48.840
<v Speaker 3>served as consultants, and the agency praised it publicly for

3834
03:04:48.959 --> 03:04:52.319
<v Speaker 3>helping explain the quote unquote real stakes of the War

3835
03:04:52.399 --> 03:04:56.280
<v Speaker 3>on Terror to the American public. It's subconscious programming is

3836
03:04:56.639 --> 03:05:00.479
<v Speaker 3>fear the foreigner, trust the system, even when it to you.

3837
03:05:00.920 --> 03:05:05.600
<v Speaker 3>Carrie Matheson's character, despite her instability, is shown as indispensable,

3838
03:05:05.879 --> 03:05:08.680
<v Speaker 3>a broken savior archetype who can't afford to play by

3839
03:05:08.719 --> 03:05:12.239
<v Speaker 3>the rules. It reinforces the idea that America's security comes

3840
03:05:12.239 --> 03:05:15.399
<v Speaker 3>at the cost of transparency and that some secrets are

3841
03:05:15.399 --> 03:05:16.040
<v Speaker 3>worth keeping.

3842
03:05:17.600 --> 03:05:21.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that was a That was a wild show. I

3843
03:05:21.959 --> 03:05:24.000
<v Speaker 5>only caught the first couple of seasons of it. I

3844
03:05:24.000 --> 03:05:25.639
<v Speaker 5>wish I would have sat and watched the rest of it,

3845
03:05:25.719 --> 03:05:26.399
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, it was.

3846
03:05:26.920 --> 03:05:27.559
<v Speaker 4>That was a good one.

3847
03:05:28.120 --> 03:05:33.120
<v Speaker 3>Here are some other military or DOO defunded or supported movies.

3848
03:05:33.319 --> 03:05:37.000
<v Speaker 3>So beyond obvious war films, the Department of Defense has

3849
03:05:37.040 --> 03:05:40.600
<v Speaker 3>inserted itself into many non war films with subtle programming.

3850
03:05:41.520 --> 03:05:46.239
<v Speaker 3>So mind engineering and control movies directly or indirectly supported

3851
03:05:47.079 --> 03:05:49.920
<v Speaker 3>were number one. Oh you like this movie, The Men

3852
03:05:49.959 --> 03:05:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Who Stare At Goats into the Yeah. While parody, it's

3853
03:05:53.959 --> 03:05:58.639
<v Speaker 3>based on the real First Earth Battalion psyops research declassified

3854
03:05:58.680 --> 03:06:03.840
<v Speaker 3>military experiments with telepathy, ESP and remote viewing, the script

3855
03:06:04.040 --> 03:06:08.399
<v Speaker 3>was consulted to avoid real military embarrassment.

3856
03:06:09.799 --> 03:06:13.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's We've talked about that movie before with the

3857
03:06:13.399 --> 03:06:16.399
<v Speaker 5>asher projection program that the CIA had and how that

3858
03:06:16.520 --> 03:06:20.719
<v Speaker 5>was again based on a true story with a lot

3859
03:06:20.760 --> 03:06:23.399
<v Speaker 5>of creative liberties thrown in. But yeah, that movie is

3860
03:06:23.440 --> 03:06:27.239
<v Speaker 5>fucking hilarious, dude, Jeff Bridges, George Clooney, the whole nine.

3861
03:06:27.680 --> 03:06:30.120
<v Speaker 3>Nextly, we have one of my favorite movies of all

3862
03:06:30.159 --> 03:06:33.159
<v Speaker 3>time called Inception, which came out in twenty ten.

3863
03:06:33.639 --> 03:06:37.319
<v Speaker 4>It says Noah's do d or CIA influence Dude.

3864
03:06:37.079 --> 03:06:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, it says no official do d credit, but Christopher

3865
03:06:40.120 --> 03:06:45.959
<v Speaker 3>Nolan reportedly received private guidance from intelligence linked advisors. The

3866
03:06:45.959 --> 03:06:52.040
<v Speaker 3>themes planting ideas, layering dreams, time dilation mirror known psychological

3867
03:06:52.040 --> 03:06:58.360
<v Speaker 3>ops tactics like MK ultra operation, artichoke, and dream manipulation research.

3868
03:06:59.639 --> 03:07:01.920
<v Speaker 2>WHOA damn, I didn't know.

3869
03:07:02.040 --> 03:07:02.200
<v Speaker 1>Well.

3870
03:07:02.319 --> 03:07:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean it makes sense though, doesn't it.

3871
03:07:04.360 --> 03:07:04.760
<v Speaker 4>It does?

3872
03:07:05.239 --> 03:07:08.360
<v Speaker 5>Like hearing that out loud and knowing the movie like

3873
03:07:08.399 --> 03:07:08.719
<v Speaker 5>we do.

3874
03:07:09.120 --> 03:07:11.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I could see it. I could absolutely see it.

3875
03:07:11.159 --> 03:07:14.879
<v Speaker 5>But wow, I never even thought about the implications of

3876
03:07:15.000 --> 03:07:20.120
<v Speaker 5>if an intelligence agency had any kind of sway on

3877
03:07:20.239 --> 03:07:21.479
<v Speaker 5>how this movie was.

3878
03:07:21.479 --> 03:07:26.840
<v Speaker 4>Written, played out, edited, whatever the case. But that's pretty

3879
03:07:26.840 --> 03:07:28.239
<v Speaker 4>fucking wild, almost.

3880
03:07:27.959 --> 03:07:31.319
<v Speaker 2>A little sinister you think about it. Actually, yeah, like

3881
03:07:31.360 --> 03:07:33.479
<v Speaker 2>it's it doesn't make me feel good to know that, No,

3882
03:07:34.000 --> 03:07:34.479
<v Speaker 2>not at all.

3883
03:07:35.200 --> 03:07:38.719
<v Speaker 3>Nextly, another great movie, Limitless with It, came out in

3884
03:07:38.760 --> 03:07:44.440
<v Speaker 3>twenty eleven. It echoes DoD and dharpa interest in cognitive

3885
03:07:44.639 --> 03:07:50.239
<v Speaker 3>enhancement drugs. Several real programs exist that match the NZT concept.

3886
03:07:50.959 --> 03:07:58.159
<v Speaker 3>For example, moda Finil moda fenil, which is a modfinitely.

3887
03:07:57.440 --> 03:07:59.559
<v Speaker 4>Seen as the real life limitless drug.

3888
03:08:00.719 --> 03:08:04.760
<v Speaker 3>So medafinil in military use. Holy shit, I didn't know

3889
03:08:04.760 --> 03:08:05.520
<v Speaker 3>that that existed.

3890
03:08:06.479 --> 03:08:09.799
<v Speaker 4>It's not, and I don't know. I've never tested it myself.

3891
03:08:09.920 --> 03:08:12.360
<v Speaker 4>I would love to get my hands on some, but

3892
03:08:13.520 --> 03:08:17.399
<v Speaker 4>it is seen as the thing that the Limitless Pill

3893
03:08:17.520 --> 03:08:21.239
<v Speaker 4>was based off of. It doesn't from what I've been

3894
03:08:21.280 --> 03:08:23.399
<v Speaker 4>given to understand, It doesn't make you have one hundred

3895
03:08:23.399 --> 03:08:26.040
<v Speaker 4>percent of the power within your brain. But as far

3896
03:08:26.120 --> 03:08:31.159
<v Speaker 4>as being extremely acutely aware of your surroundings, being able

3897
03:08:31.239 --> 03:08:34.319
<v Speaker 4>to think through seriously complex problems. Now, I don't mean

3898
03:08:34.360 --> 03:08:37.120
<v Speaker 4>like you'll be able to goodwill hunting a Calculus equation

3899
03:08:37.200 --> 03:08:40.040
<v Speaker 4>on the board, Okay, nothing to that level, but the

3900
03:08:40.120 --> 03:08:43.200
<v Speaker 4>critical thinking to get yourself out of Harry situations and

3901
03:08:43.239 --> 03:08:45.840
<v Speaker 4>things like that. Like apparently medafinil is the.

3902
03:08:46.079 --> 03:08:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Sh well your brain only can process with what it knows.

3903
03:08:50.760 --> 03:08:53.239
<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, I mean, you can probably study calculus.

3904
03:08:53.280 --> 03:08:56.159
<v Speaker 3>You can probably get it really quick, but your brain's

3905
03:08:56.200 --> 03:08:59.280
<v Speaker 3>not just going to be like, well, I've never studied calculus,

3906
03:08:59.280 --> 03:09:00.799
<v Speaker 3>but now I know it, you know what I mean.

3907
03:09:00.840 --> 03:09:02.319
<v Speaker 2>It's not like magic or anything like that.

3908
03:09:02.440 --> 03:09:04.399
<v Speaker 3>But still, I mean, and that's what he did, like

3909
03:09:04.479 --> 03:09:07.079
<v Speaker 3>he studied the stock market and all that shit whenever

3910
03:09:07.159 --> 03:09:08.239
<v Speaker 3>he got on that right.

3911
03:09:08.639 --> 03:09:11.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, exactly. And I've also heard that the come down

3912
03:09:11.520 --> 03:09:14.360
<v Speaker 5>off of it. They got that pretty accurate with the

3913
03:09:14.399 --> 03:09:17.760
<v Speaker 5>Limitless movie. Whenever you run out of it, your brain

3914
03:09:17.920 --> 03:09:20.799
<v Speaker 5>like is barely functioning at that point.

3915
03:09:20.879 --> 03:09:23.440
<v Speaker 4>So it's not like it's you don't get addicted to it.

3916
03:09:23.440 --> 03:09:27.280
<v Speaker 3>It's all speed in general though, like cocaine, adderall vivans,

3917
03:09:27.319 --> 03:09:31.280
<v Speaker 3>all like, it's all the same come down, it sucks, yeah.

3918
03:09:30.920 --> 03:09:32.719
<v Speaker 5>So it's not like you get these people that are

3919
03:09:32.760 --> 03:09:36.280
<v Speaker 5>like medafinil junkies who are like in rehab because of it,

3920
03:09:36.760 --> 03:09:40.760
<v Speaker 5>but their brain power never reaches what it could be

3921
03:09:41.040 --> 03:09:43.479
<v Speaker 5>unless they use it at that point. So it's like

3922
03:09:43.479 --> 03:09:45.680
<v Speaker 5>one of those things where if you take one every

3923
03:09:45.680 --> 03:09:47.840
<v Speaker 5>so often as needed, all right, cool, but if you

3924
03:09:47.879 --> 03:09:50.559
<v Speaker 5>start doing it daily for like a month, you're pretty

3925
03:09:50.639 --> 03:09:51.399
<v Speaker 5>much fucked.

3926
03:09:52.520 --> 03:09:55.120
<v Speaker 3>Nextly, we have Enemy of the State, which came out

3927
03:09:55.159 --> 03:09:59.280
<v Speaker 3>in nineteen ninety eight. This was an NSA centric thriller

3928
03:09:59.360 --> 03:10:04.639
<v Speaker 3>allegedly from a prompted the agency to shift public relations strategy.

3929
03:10:04.959 --> 03:10:12.239
<v Speaker 3>Many former Intel agents praised it as accurate, suggesting unofficial alignments.

3930
03:10:12.719 --> 03:10:14.719
<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen a lot of these kind of movies.

3931
03:10:15.440 --> 03:10:18.440
<v Speaker 4>Enemy of the States with will Will Smith and Gene Hackman.

3932
03:10:19.520 --> 03:10:21.959
<v Speaker 2>Oh I may have seen The Banger. Yeah, it's a banger.

3933
03:10:22.879 --> 03:10:25.959
<v Speaker 3>Next one and possibly the greatest movie of all time.

3934
03:10:26.559 --> 03:10:31.000
<v Speaker 3>The Matrix, The Sandlot The Matrix, Oh okay, yeah that too.

3935
03:10:31.159 --> 03:10:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Matrix came out in nineteen ninety nine. It says, while

3936
03:10:33.600 --> 03:10:37.200
<v Speaker 3>not do defunded, the film reflects deep, gnostic and MK

3937
03:10:37.399 --> 03:10:41.479
<v Speaker 3>ultra themes. Several DARPA advisors now reference it in real

3938
03:10:41.520 --> 03:10:45.479
<v Speaker 3>world projects about simulation theory and neural interfaces.

3939
03:10:45.879 --> 03:10:46.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I could believe that.

3940
03:10:47.319 --> 03:10:51.040
<v Speaker 5>I could believe that The Matrix had some some uh

3941
03:10:51.639 --> 03:10:54.000
<v Speaker 5>not coercion, what's the word. I'm looking for some influence

3942
03:10:54.360 --> 03:10:56.440
<v Speaker 5>from some government agencies for sure.

3943
03:10:56.799 --> 03:11:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh, how about these mafia and crime films that are

3944
03:11:00.319 --> 03:11:04.639
<v Speaker 3>less obviously under the direction of d d and whatnot

3945
03:11:05.639 --> 03:11:08.879
<v Speaker 3>says most mob films were not directly funded by the

3946
03:11:08.920 --> 03:11:13.600
<v Speaker 3>DoD but were allowed to proceed without interference because they

3947
03:11:13.639 --> 03:11:17.680
<v Speaker 3>reinforce a message the enemy is within and the government

3948
03:11:17.760 --> 03:11:18.760
<v Speaker 3>is trying to keep order.

3949
03:11:19.479 --> 03:11:21.920
<v Speaker 4>So I could see American gangster making this list.

3950
03:11:23.639 --> 03:11:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does.

3951
03:11:25.559 --> 03:11:28.840
<v Speaker 3>But the first one that it mentions is Scarface from

3952
03:11:29.000 --> 03:11:32.159
<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty three, one of the best movies ever made. Agreed,

3953
03:11:32.319 --> 03:11:35.760
<v Speaker 3>It says, not DoD funded, but mirrored the Reagan era

3954
03:11:35.879 --> 03:11:38.639
<v Speaker 3>War on Drugs narrative. The rise and fall of Tony

3955
03:11:38.680 --> 03:11:44.159
<v Speaker 3>Montana subtly justifies the need for harsh enforcement and DEA.

3956
03:11:43.920 --> 03:11:48.159
<v Speaker 4>Expansion, Right, Yeah, more expansion of the DEA. That's what

3957
03:11:48.200 --> 03:11:48.440
<v Speaker 4>we need.

3958
03:11:48.479 --> 03:11:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, they're the ones that are pedaling it in.

3959
03:11:50.600 --> 03:11:51.440
<v Speaker 4>Two one hundred percent.

3960
03:11:51.479 --> 03:11:54.440
<v Speaker 5>That was done to fund the CIA and fund their

3961
03:11:54.440 --> 03:11:57.719
<v Speaker 5>shit because they stopped getting funding from the from potus,

3962
03:11:57.799 --> 03:12:00.079
<v Speaker 5>so they had to make their ends meet somehow. So

3963
03:12:00.399 --> 03:12:02.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, hey, why don't we just start selling drugs?

3964
03:12:03.000 --> 03:12:05.399
<v Speaker 5>Anybody ever seen uh you know, what was that other

3965
03:12:05.399 --> 03:12:06.319
<v Speaker 5>one with Barry Seal?

3966
03:12:08.639 --> 03:12:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know what you're talking about. I can't think

3967
03:12:10.719 --> 03:12:11.000
<v Speaker 2>of it.

3968
03:12:11.520 --> 03:12:12.479
<v Speaker 4>Not American Gangster.

3969
03:12:12.559 --> 03:12:16.559
<v Speaker 5>That was the one with Denzel Washington and Harlem, but uh.

3970
03:12:17.000 --> 03:12:17.600
<v Speaker 4>Damn it.

3971
03:12:19.000 --> 03:12:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Was it a Leonardo DiCaprio movie.

3972
03:12:20.559 --> 03:12:23.520
<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking of. No, No Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise.

3973
03:12:23.559 --> 03:12:24.479
<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right.

3974
03:12:24.600 --> 03:12:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Uh so the next one that we're gonna get to

3975
03:12:26.760 --> 03:12:29.079
<v Speaker 3>is actually a trilogy, and that's The Godfather.

3976
03:12:29.719 --> 03:12:30.920
<v Speaker 4>No, No American Maid.

3977
03:12:32.799 --> 03:12:37.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the Godfather trilogy trilogy, it says, no known

3978
03:12:37.319 --> 03:12:41.360
<v Speaker 3>government funding, but allowed to exist because it bolts bolstered

3979
03:12:41.360 --> 03:12:44.959
<v Speaker 3>trust in US federal systems like the FBI as moral

3980
03:12:45.159 --> 03:12:49.079
<v Speaker 3>arbiters against end quotes Unamerican corruption.

3981
03:12:50.559 --> 03:12:51.760
<v Speaker 4>If you say so.

3982
03:12:52.719 --> 03:12:54.840
<v Speaker 5>The only time they did that was when they tried

3983
03:12:54.879 --> 03:12:58.760
<v Speaker 5>to bring in your boy Michael Corleone for a rico

3984
03:12:58.920 --> 03:13:02.520
<v Speaker 5>case that he beat so and then they showed how

3985
03:13:02.559 --> 03:13:05.040
<v Speaker 5>a corrupt politician killed a hooker and they had to

3986
03:13:05.040 --> 03:13:07.159
<v Speaker 5>cover that up to save his ass, and then in

3987
03:13:07.200 --> 03:13:08.440
<v Speaker 5>turn he scratched their back.

3988
03:13:08.559 --> 03:13:15.079
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, the federal governments the moral arbiters of stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

3989
03:13:15.319 --> 03:13:18.680
<v Speaker 3>Nextly we have American Gangster from two thousand and seven,

3990
03:13:18.879 --> 03:13:20.200
<v Speaker 3>fucking awesome.

3991
03:13:19.799 --> 03:13:23.319
<v Speaker 5>Movie, amazing and true story of how they were shipping

3992
03:13:23.319 --> 03:13:25.319
<v Speaker 5>the heroin back in the body bags and all of

3993
03:13:25.399 --> 03:13:26.840
<v Speaker 5>that from soldiers.

3994
03:13:26.399 --> 03:13:29.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, for real based on true events. This film

3995
03:13:29.319 --> 03:13:32.959
<v Speaker 3>was created with input from real DEA agents. It subtly

3996
03:13:33.000 --> 03:13:37.280
<v Speaker 3>showcases the criminal justice system eventually doing the right thing,

3997
03:13:37.639 --> 03:13:41.479
<v Speaker 3>reinforcing belief in checks and balances.

3998
03:13:41.559 --> 03:13:43.399
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one of the best.

3999
03:13:44.879 --> 03:13:47.799
<v Speaker 3>Now we're gonna get to certain actors that are used

4000
03:13:47.959 --> 03:13:51.879
<v Speaker 3>for a lot of this propagation. So these are just alleged.

4001
03:13:52.000 --> 03:13:55.799
<v Speaker 3>There's I mean, you can kind of draw the lines,

4002
03:13:56.159 --> 03:13:58.239
<v Speaker 3>but I mean, obviously they're not gonna come out and

4003
03:13:58.280 --> 03:14:00.440
<v Speaker 3>say it, but it's kind of it's kind of obvious,

4004
03:14:01.399 --> 03:14:04.799
<v Speaker 3>so actors that were allegedly hand picked by the military

4005
03:14:05.079 --> 03:14:10.680
<v Speaker 3>entertainment complex. These individuals aren't just talented, They are chosen, promoted,

4006
03:14:10.719 --> 03:14:13.760
<v Speaker 3>and placed into rules that align with government narratives, whether

4007
03:14:13.840 --> 03:14:18.840
<v Speaker 3>knowingly or as useful instruments. Their careers have strangely benefited

4008
03:14:18.840 --> 03:14:23.520
<v Speaker 3>from their alignment with military intelligence and globalist messaging. Number

4009
03:14:23.520 --> 03:14:28.639
<v Speaker 3>one obviously Tom Cruise, So the government affiliation with the

4010
03:14:28.799 --> 03:14:32.159
<v Speaker 3>US Navy via Top Gun and the Department of Defense.

4011
03:14:32.399 --> 03:14:35.319
<v Speaker 3>Tom Cruise is the face of military glamour. He didn't

4012
03:14:35.399 --> 03:14:38.840
<v Speaker 3>just star in Top Gun, he became a walking recruitment campaign.

4013
03:14:39.239 --> 03:14:43.600
<v Speaker 3>Cruz reportedly worked closely with Navy officials and for both

4014
03:14:43.719 --> 03:14:46.239
<v Speaker 3>top for both of the Top Gun films, and his

4015
03:14:46.360 --> 03:14:50.600
<v Speaker 3>real life image is tightly controlled. His Mission I'm Sorry

4016
03:14:50.639 --> 03:14:54.879
<v Speaker 3>His Mission Impossible franchise also frequently cast the US intelligence

4017
03:14:54.879 --> 03:14:56.200
<v Speaker 3>apparatus as heroic.

4018
03:14:57.200 --> 03:14:58.559
<v Speaker 4>Cruse is well.

4019
03:14:58.600 --> 03:15:01.200
<v Speaker 3>The theory is is that Cruz is a controlled asset

4020
03:15:01.239 --> 03:15:03.879
<v Speaker 3>of the military Hollywood machine. He may not be a

4021
03:15:03.959 --> 03:15:07.440
<v Speaker 3>quote unquote spy, but he's a megaphone used to project

4022
03:15:07.520 --> 03:15:12.040
<v Speaker 3>high adrenaline, patriotism and masculine loyalty. His link to scientology

4023
03:15:12.079 --> 03:15:15.440
<v Speaker 3>may also be a key piece given its rumored intelligence

4024
03:15:15.479 --> 03:15:16.440
<v Speaker 3>community ties.

4025
03:15:17.440 --> 03:15:20.399
<v Speaker 4>I would say that it's not even a disputable fact

4026
03:15:20.680 --> 03:15:25.360
<v Speaker 4>at this point that his scientology ties absolutely has led

4027
03:15:25.440 --> 03:15:26.920
<v Speaker 4>him to where he is now.

4028
03:15:27.840 --> 03:15:31.559
<v Speaker 3>Nextly, we have Tom Hanks. The government affiliation would be

4029
03:15:31.600 --> 03:15:35.799
<v Speaker 3>the CIA and DoD connections through Forrest Gump, Charlie Wilson's War,

4030
03:15:35.959 --> 03:15:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Captain Phillips, and The Post so all military funded movies.

4031
03:15:41.559 --> 03:15:45.760
<v Speaker 3>So Tom Hanks is Hollywood's every man, often cast as

4032
03:15:45.840 --> 03:15:51.760
<v Speaker 3>the symbol of moral American virtue. His roles promote obedience, sacrifice,

4033
03:15:51.799 --> 03:15:55.719
<v Speaker 3>and trust in the system. Forrest Gump normalizes war, Charlie

4034
03:15:55.760 --> 03:16:00.479
<v Speaker 3>WARF's Charlie Wilson's War glamorizes covert operations, and The Post

4035
03:16:00.600 --> 03:16:05.319
<v Speaker 3>promotes the illusion of journalistic and independence while softening real

4036
03:16:05.399 --> 03:16:09.799
<v Speaker 3>government secrets. The theory would be that Hank serves serves

4037
03:16:09.840 --> 03:16:14.360
<v Speaker 3>as a cultural bomb soothing soothing the public with charm

4038
03:16:14.639 --> 03:16:19.280
<v Speaker 3>while pushing complex narratives that ultimately defend institutional power. His

4039
03:16:19.360 --> 03:16:23.600
<v Speaker 3>public persona as all Puke at this one, his public

4040
03:16:23.639 --> 03:16:28.239
<v Speaker 3>persona as America's Dad makes him the ideal subconscious influencer.

4041
03:16:29.239 --> 03:16:31.319
<v Speaker 2>What movie has he ever played as the dad?

4042
03:16:32.239 --> 03:16:35.520
<v Speaker 3>It's just that kind of guy that it's not necessarily

4043
03:16:35.600 --> 03:16:37.719
<v Speaker 3>a dad in a movie, but just like you know,

4044
03:16:37.840 --> 03:16:40.319
<v Speaker 3>the the the family man that you look up to

4045
03:16:40.520 --> 03:16:43.120
<v Speaker 3>because he's morally you know good.

4046
03:16:43.360 --> 03:16:45.959
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the whole the whole thing with him going to

4047
03:16:46.000 --> 03:16:49.799
<v Speaker 5>Greece to escape extradition and all of these things until

4048
03:16:49.840 --> 03:16:52.399
<v Speaker 5>the Statute of limitations went away on that one case

4049
03:16:52.479 --> 03:16:55.479
<v Speaker 5>and his affiliation with Epstein and all these things.

4050
03:16:55.559 --> 03:16:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that that has not voted well.

4051
03:16:57.799 --> 03:17:03.840
<v Speaker 4>For his quote unquote America his dad image. Holy fuck gross.

4052
03:17:03.479 --> 03:17:05.120
<v Speaker 2>I know, puke at that one.

4053
03:17:05.440 --> 03:17:05.559
<v Speaker 10>Uh.

4054
03:17:05.799 --> 03:17:10.479
<v Speaker 3>Nextly we have Ashton Kutcher. So the government affiliation would

4055
03:17:10.479 --> 03:17:14.120
<v Speaker 3>be the intelligence community, the tech industry, and human trafficking

4056
03:17:14.280 --> 03:17:15.120
<v Speaker 3>task forces.

4057
03:17:15.680 --> 03:17:18.399
<v Speaker 2>So Coucher or Kutcher. I always say Coucher is just

4058
03:17:18.399 --> 03:17:20.920
<v Speaker 2>more funny, but think that's how you pronounce it, honestly.

4059
03:17:21.159 --> 03:17:25.840
<v Speaker 3>Ashton Kucher co found in Thorn, an anti human trafficking

4060
03:17:25.879 --> 03:17:29.200
<v Speaker 3>tech company which works with Homeland Security, the FBI, and

4061
03:17:29.280 --> 03:17:32.879
<v Speaker 3>Silicon Valley giants. He testified before Congress and has high

4062
03:17:32.959 --> 03:17:36.920
<v Speaker 3>level security clearance. He's also closely tied to CIA boosted

4063
03:17:36.920 --> 03:17:40.479
<v Speaker 3>tech networks through venture capital. The theory is is that

4064
03:17:40.520 --> 03:17:44.799
<v Speaker 3>while his celebrity background helps mask it. Kucher now functions

4065
03:17:44.879 --> 03:17:48.680
<v Speaker 3>as a quote unquote bridge personality, a Hollywood insider who

4066
03:17:48.719 --> 03:17:51.680
<v Speaker 3>has been absorbed into the intelligence world under the guise

4067
03:17:51.719 --> 03:17:55.399
<v Speaker 3>of humanitarianism. Some people suspect that he's being groomed for

4068
03:17:55.559 --> 03:17:58.399
<v Speaker 3>future political influence or tech gatekeeping.

4069
03:18:00.120 --> 03:18:02.719
<v Speaker 5>You know, he was in school to become I forget

4070
03:18:02.719 --> 03:18:08.399
<v Speaker 5>if it was a biochemical engineer or a nuclear engineer.

4071
03:18:08.440 --> 03:18:10.239
<v Speaker 4>He's actually a really smart guy.

4072
03:18:10.280 --> 03:18:13.440
<v Speaker 5>He quit that to do modeling, which led to him

4073
03:18:13.479 --> 03:18:16.959
<v Speaker 5>landing the role on that seventies show as the dumbass, right,

4074
03:18:17.079 --> 03:18:22.120
<v Speaker 5>but you know, all things aside, Yeah, he is extremely intelligent,

4075
03:18:22.280 --> 03:18:25.159
<v Speaker 5>and I know there's a lot of controversy around him currently.

4076
03:18:25.520 --> 03:18:28.000
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how much of that is accurate and

4077
03:18:28.000 --> 03:18:31.920
<v Speaker 5>how much of it is the Internet throwing shade. But yeah,

4078
03:18:32.159 --> 03:18:34.479
<v Speaker 5>as far as that goes him playing that role in

4079
03:18:34.520 --> 03:18:35.520
<v Speaker 5>The Guardian.

4080
03:18:35.840 --> 03:18:38.040
<v Speaker 4>I could see is like, yeah, his ties to these things,

4081
03:18:38.040 --> 03:18:41.479
<v Speaker 4>but he's not really tied in with other things. Well,

4082
03:18:41.520 --> 03:18:43.399
<v Speaker 4>with the CIA for the Thorn and all that stuff.

4083
03:18:43.399 --> 03:18:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Fair enough.

4084
03:18:44.000 --> 03:18:46.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Next we have and this is just a couple

4085
03:18:46.879 --> 03:18:48.959
<v Speaker 3>of names, it's not gonna be all of them. Next

4086
03:18:48.959 --> 03:18:52.879
<v Speaker 3>we have Robert Downey Jr. The government affiliation with the

4087
03:18:53.440 --> 03:18:57.639
<v Speaker 3>DoD via Iron Man and Darba parallels. So as iron

4088
03:18:57.680 --> 03:19:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Man RDJ became a walking avatar for the Military Industrial Complex,

4089
03:19:02.079 --> 03:19:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Stark is essentially a DARPA dream, a billionaire tech entrepreneur

4090
03:19:06.319 --> 03:19:07.799
<v Speaker 3>who privatizes war.

4091
03:19:07.639 --> 03:19:09.280
<v Speaker 2>To make it ethical end quotes.

4092
03:19:09.520 --> 03:19:12.479
<v Speaker 3>The military approved the original Iron Man because of this

4093
03:19:12.680 --> 03:19:17.120
<v Speaker 3>very narrative, the redemption of the war profiteer within the system.

4094
03:19:17.600 --> 03:19:20.319
<v Speaker 3>The theory is is that Downey was reborn as a

4095
03:19:20.360 --> 03:19:23.879
<v Speaker 3>public figure only after being broken down and rebuilt by

4096
03:19:23.879 --> 03:19:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Hollywood's elite. His drug struggles made him malleable, and he

4097
03:19:27.719 --> 03:19:32.600
<v Speaker 3>was remade into the perfect symbolic military hero, arrogant but brilliant,

4098
03:19:32.840 --> 03:19:34.239
<v Speaker 3>flawed but righteous.

4099
03:19:35.239 --> 03:19:38.760
<v Speaker 5>That's actually pretty accurate. He he's viewed that way anyway.

4100
03:19:38.879 --> 03:19:41.079
<v Speaker 5>I'm I'm not saying he is or isn't, but yeah,

4101
03:19:41.200 --> 03:19:44.079
<v Speaker 5>I believe he didn't. He wasn't even allowed to receive

4102
03:19:44.200 --> 03:19:48.000
<v Speaker 5>one dollar for his acting on Iron Man until the

4103
03:19:48.040 --> 03:19:51.040
<v Speaker 5>movie was wrapped because they didn't want him to have

4104
03:19:51.079 --> 03:19:53.040
<v Speaker 5>a relapse in the middle of shooting or anything.

4105
03:19:54.200 --> 03:19:54.520
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

4106
03:19:54.959 --> 03:19:57.239
<v Speaker 3>The last actor that we're going to bring up is

4107
03:19:57.360 --> 03:20:02.959
<v Speaker 3>uh oh Ellen DeGeneres Ew. The Government of Affiliation would

4108
03:20:03.000 --> 03:20:08.520
<v Speaker 3>be soft power propaganda, and Pentagon celebrity liaison programs. Ellen

4109
03:20:08.719 --> 03:20:11.040
<v Speaker 3>isn't a war hero on screen, but she plays a

4110
03:20:11.040 --> 03:20:15.680
<v Speaker 3>crucial role in cultural normalization. She's hosted military personnel on

4111
03:20:15.719 --> 03:20:19.040
<v Speaker 3>her show, aired pro military segments, and has been used

4112
03:20:19.040 --> 03:20:22.440
<v Speaker 3>to promote social acceptance of the state through humor and

4113
03:20:22.479 --> 03:20:26.520
<v Speaker 3>emotional appeal. She was also given the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

4114
03:20:26.959 --> 03:20:29.680
<v Speaker 3>The theory is is that Ellen by Obama.

4115
03:20:29.719 --> 03:20:30.440
<v Speaker 4>By the way, how.

4116
03:20:30.360 --> 03:20:32.319
<v Speaker 5>About to say, at the same day he was giving

4117
03:20:32.399 --> 03:20:34.959
<v Speaker 5>him away like candy to anybody who is a celebrity.

4118
03:20:35.000 --> 03:20:38.200
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, sure that makes her some sort of a cisset.

4119
03:20:38.239 --> 03:20:41.520
<v Speaker 4>I guess all right, just keep swimming as they say. Wow.

4120
03:20:41.920 --> 03:20:44.239
<v Speaker 3>The theory is is that Ellen is part of the

4121
03:20:44.280 --> 03:20:48.719
<v Speaker 3>emotional siop branch of the entertainment complex, pushing unity, trust

4122
03:20:48.719 --> 03:20:52.600
<v Speaker 3>and institutions, and compliance through comfort. Her public fall from

4123
03:20:52.600 --> 03:20:55.479
<v Speaker 3>grace may suggest that her usefulness had run its course,

4124
03:20:55.600 --> 03:20:58.280
<v Speaker 3>or that she broke from her script, which makes sense

4125
03:20:58.280 --> 03:20:58.719
<v Speaker 3>because I.

4126
03:20:58.639 --> 03:21:01.319
<v Speaker 2>Think she's living in uh where's she living? Not Canada

4127
03:21:01.440 --> 03:21:05.479
<v Speaker 2>but Sweden. I think she's.

4128
03:21:05.319 --> 03:21:06.120
<v Speaker 4>Out of America.

4129
03:21:06.440 --> 03:21:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh good, good good, Fuck that bitch.

4130
03:21:09.360 --> 03:21:12.440
<v Speaker 5>But also, let's not negate her ties to Diddy and

4131
03:21:12.520 --> 03:21:16.520
<v Speaker 5>her ties to Epstein that have become very widely known

4132
03:21:16.559 --> 03:21:19.760
<v Speaker 5>and talked about in the last few years. So I've

4133
03:21:19.879 --> 03:21:23.040
<v Speaker 5>never saw her and thought to myself, wow, Cia is

4134
03:21:23.079 --> 03:21:25.040
<v Speaker 5>probably using her to make us feel some sort of

4135
03:21:25.040 --> 03:21:28.200
<v Speaker 5>emotion because she had military personnel on her show.

4136
03:21:29.000 --> 03:21:30.959
<v Speaker 4>There's tons of talk shows that do the same thing.

4137
03:21:31.040 --> 03:21:35.159
<v Speaker 4>What eh, well, I mean it's subtle, but it's not

4138
03:21:35.159 --> 03:21:35.639
<v Speaker 4>to say thing.

4139
03:21:35.639 --> 03:21:38.600
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't happen. But yeah, actually I just pulled it up.

4140
03:21:38.600 --> 03:21:38.680
<v Speaker 7>So.

4141
03:21:38.760 --> 03:21:42.600
<v Speaker 3>Ellen DeGeneres currently lives in the Cotswolds region of England,

4142
03:21:42.879 --> 03:21:46.559
<v Speaker 3>having moved there with her wife Portia de Rossi after

4143
03:21:46.680 --> 03:21:50.479
<v Speaker 3>leaving the United States once president once Trump was elected.

4144
03:21:50.799 --> 03:21:54.000
<v Speaker 5>The good she actually stood by her word and left.

4145
03:21:54.399 --> 03:21:57.000
<v Speaker 5>You know what, stay there. We don't want you back

4146
03:21:57.479 --> 03:21:57.760
<v Speaker 5>for it.

4147
03:21:57.760 --> 03:21:59.959
<v Speaker 3>No, it's just temporary. She's coming back once Trump's out off,

4148
03:22:00.239 --> 03:22:00.639
<v Speaker 3>she says.

4149
03:22:00.760 --> 03:22:01.120
<v Speaker 4>Fucks.

4150
03:22:02.879 --> 03:22:05.520
<v Speaker 3>So it says that they purchased a farmhouse in the area,

4151
03:22:05.680 --> 03:22:08.879
<v Speaker 3>reportedly worth eh eighteen million dollars.

4152
03:22:10.159 --> 03:22:15.680
<v Speaker 4>Okay, well, my god, yep, all right now the Diddy

4153
03:22:15.760 --> 03:22:17.559
<v Speaker 4>case is going on. She is not trying to be

4154
03:22:17.680 --> 03:22:19.040
<v Speaker 4>anywhere in America right.

4155
03:22:18.920 --> 03:22:21.920
<v Speaker 3>Now, right, Yeah, she was one of the main ones

4156
03:22:21.959 --> 03:22:25.959
<v Speaker 3>there and let's not forget about her set looking like

4157
03:22:26.040 --> 03:22:27.159
<v Speaker 3>fucking Epstein Island?

4158
03:22:27.239 --> 03:22:27.440
<v Speaker 2>You know?

4159
03:22:28.200 --> 03:22:29.120
<v Speaker 4>Do I know what I'm saying?

4160
03:22:29.639 --> 03:22:33.319
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So just to wrap it up here, how the

4161
03:22:33.360 --> 03:22:38.399
<v Speaker 3>system allegedly works is five key points. Here for something

4162
03:22:38.440 --> 03:22:40.479
<v Speaker 3>for you to look out for for just anybody that's

4163
03:22:40.479 --> 03:22:42.159
<v Speaker 3>trying to keep that third eye all the way open

4164
03:22:42.200 --> 03:22:44.479
<v Speaker 3>if you decide to blue pill and watch a Hollywood movie.

4165
03:22:45.440 --> 03:22:48.920
<v Speaker 3>So number one would be the military script approval, so

4166
03:22:49.000 --> 03:22:52.840
<v Speaker 3>the DD and CIA reviews scripts and recommends or vetos

4167
03:22:53.000 --> 03:22:53.879
<v Speaker 3>certain actors.

4168
03:22:54.760 --> 03:22:55.239
<v Speaker 2>How about that.

4169
03:22:56.360 --> 03:22:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Next, you have Hollywood liaisons, so every branch of the

4170
03:22:59.840 --> 03:23:04.479
<v Speaker 3>military has a liaison to Hollywood, who also makes casting suggestions.

4171
03:23:05.760 --> 03:23:09.600
<v Speaker 3>There is number three, which is behavioral control, so stars

4172
03:23:09.639 --> 03:23:14.200
<v Speaker 3>with past addictions, scandals, or compromised private lives are easier

4173
03:23:14.239 --> 03:23:17.520
<v Speaker 3>to reshape into assets.

4174
03:23:17.520 --> 03:23:20.680
<v Speaker 2>Interesting how that works, isn't it? Apps fucking lutely?

4175
03:23:22.760 --> 03:23:25.879
<v Speaker 3>Let's see we got Number four is the media warship,

4176
03:23:26.239 --> 03:23:29.719
<v Speaker 3>so these stars are elevated to godlike status only to

4177
03:23:29.799 --> 03:23:34.319
<v Speaker 3>become transmitters of acceptable ideology. And then, of course there's

4178
03:23:34.360 --> 03:23:37.559
<v Speaker 3>a reward system, so those who play along get oscars

4179
03:23:37.680 --> 03:23:40.559
<v Speaker 3>protection and massive pr machines behind them.

4180
03:23:41.920 --> 03:23:42.440
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

4181
03:23:42.920 --> 03:23:44.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's dirty, it's dirty.

4182
03:23:45.239 --> 03:23:45.719
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you.

4183
03:23:45.719 --> 03:23:49.200
<v Speaker 5>See how the Oscars are awarded and how these SAG

4184
03:23:49.280 --> 03:23:52.120
<v Speaker 5>Awards are actually handed out and all of these it's

4185
03:23:52.559 --> 03:23:55.600
<v Speaker 5>it's a rig system, like and we've known that for years.

4186
03:23:55.719 --> 03:23:59.399
<v Speaker 5>Leo DiCaprio made arguably the best movie of the year

4187
03:23:59.440 --> 03:24:02.280
<v Speaker 5>for like third teen years and never gott an oscar

4188
03:24:02.920 --> 03:24:05.879
<v Speaker 5>until he finally was given it for The Revenant, which

4189
03:24:05.920 --> 03:24:09.360
<v Speaker 5>wasn't a bad movie by any means, but like wasn't. No, dude,

4190
03:24:09.440 --> 03:24:11.879
<v Speaker 5>he could have he should have been awarded that so

4191
03:24:12.079 --> 03:24:14.680
<v Speaker 5>many times over, but because he wasn't quote unquote playing

4192
03:24:14.760 --> 03:24:16.719
<v Speaker 5>the game, you know, I guess, I don't know.

4193
03:24:17.079 --> 03:24:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think he could. He should have got

4194
03:24:18.639 --> 03:24:20.280
<v Speaker 2>it for Inception, maybe.

4195
03:24:20.159 --> 03:24:23.040
<v Speaker 5>For Inception, for catch Me if you can. For I

4196
03:24:23.079 --> 03:24:25.040
<v Speaker 5>would even argue Titanic.

4197
03:24:24.680 --> 03:24:31.559
<v Speaker 4>Blood Diamond, blood, come on now, blood diamond, Yes, but yeah, sure, Revenant,

4198
03:24:31.559 --> 03:24:34.159
<v Speaker 4>which again not a bad movie, and him being a

4199
03:24:34.239 --> 03:24:38.000
<v Speaker 4>vegan and he actually ate real bear liver on camera

4200
03:24:38.079 --> 03:24:40.840
<v Speaker 4>to make it look realistic, and like I'm I'm giving

4201
03:24:40.879 --> 03:24:43.520
<v Speaker 4>the respect and the props for they're due, but like, yeah,

4202
03:24:43.559 --> 03:24:46.680
<v Speaker 4>you could obviously see of the people that was awarded

4203
03:24:46.680 --> 03:24:50.840
<v Speaker 4>that every year and not him. It's rigged because certain

4204
03:24:50.879 --> 03:24:55.040
<v Speaker 4>people are part of the click, and certain people haven't

4205
03:24:55.040 --> 03:24:56.280
<v Speaker 4>paid their dues enough yet.

4206
03:24:56.360 --> 03:25:00.559
<v Speaker 3>I guess yeah, Well, that that leaves us with question

4207
03:25:00.840 --> 03:25:06.319
<v Speaker 3>of are they aware? So some likely know exactly what

4208
03:25:06.399 --> 03:25:08.959
<v Speaker 3>they're a part of, like Ashton Kutcher. Others may be

4209
03:25:10.040 --> 03:25:13.719
<v Speaker 3>useful idiots, willing participants who enjoy fame and don't question

4210
03:25:13.799 --> 03:25:18.200
<v Speaker 3>the machinery. A few maybe handlers in disguise, controlling others

4211
03:25:18.239 --> 03:25:21.879
<v Speaker 3>while appearing as fellow celebrities. Whether aware or not, these

4212
03:25:21.879 --> 03:25:25.959
<v Speaker 3>actors are part of a sophisticated subconscious engineering operation, a

4213
03:25:26.000 --> 03:25:29.600
<v Speaker 3>soft weapon wielded not with bullets, but with box office

4214
03:25:29.680 --> 03:25:33.799
<v Speaker 3>hits and Instagram reels. So, just to wrap it up here,

4215
03:25:34.879 --> 03:25:37.399
<v Speaker 3>when you watch a film or a show produced with

4216
03:25:37.440 --> 03:25:42.200
<v Speaker 3>government backing, you're not just watching entertainment. You're watching cultural engineering.

4217
03:25:42.479 --> 03:25:45.319
<v Speaker 3>You're seeing warfare not on a battlefield, but in the

4218
03:25:45.360 --> 03:25:49.840
<v Speaker 3>battlefield of the mind. The Pentagon, the CIA, Homeland Security,

4219
03:25:50.079 --> 03:25:52.760
<v Speaker 3>they know the power of narrative. They don't just want

4220
03:25:52.760 --> 03:25:54.760
<v Speaker 3>your money, they want your belief.

4221
03:25:55.959 --> 03:25:58.399
<v Speaker 2>No, Yeah, that's what.

4222
03:25:58.360 --> 03:26:01.600
<v Speaker 4>It's all about right there, And I believe that as well.

4223
03:26:01.639 --> 03:26:05.360
<v Speaker 5>There's probably some that know exactly how they're being used

4224
03:26:05.360 --> 03:26:05.680
<v Speaker 5>and are.

4225
03:26:05.600 --> 03:26:08.280
<v Speaker 4>Completely fine with the tom Cruise. I believe he is

4226
03:26:08.399 --> 03:26:12.079
<v Speaker 4>fully aware that he is being used to sensationalize certain things,

4227
03:26:12.479 --> 03:26:15.000
<v Speaker 4>and he's fine with it. He doesn't care. It's whatever.

4228
03:26:15.159 --> 03:26:17.040
<v Speaker 4>What difference does it make to him if somebody joins

4229
03:26:17.079 --> 03:26:19.879
<v Speaker 4>the Navy because they saw top Gun, or somebody becomes

4230
03:26:19.920 --> 03:26:22.479
<v Speaker 4>an agent with the CIA because they saw Mission impossible.

4231
03:26:22.479 --> 03:26:24.920
<v Speaker 4>What fucking no skin is it off his nose? He's

4232
03:26:24.959 --> 03:26:25.760
<v Speaker 4>making millions.

4233
03:26:26.319 --> 03:26:27.959
<v Speaker 5>But then whenever you look at his ties with the

4234
03:26:28.040 --> 03:26:31.520
<v Speaker 5>Church of Scientology, and we did an episode about that

4235
03:26:31.600 --> 03:26:35.719
<v Speaker 5>operation that they did, right Operations snow White, where they

4236
03:26:35.799 --> 03:26:40.360
<v Speaker 5>infiltrated the CIA for the sole purpose of taking out

4237
03:26:40.600 --> 03:26:45.799
<v Speaker 5>valuable information on cases against certain members of the Scientology Church. Yeah,

4238
03:26:45.799 --> 03:26:48.319
<v Speaker 5>I think he's one hundred percent in the know, but

4239
03:26:48.719 --> 03:26:51.639
<v Speaker 5>he doesn't care. He's playing his role both on screen

4240
03:26:51.680 --> 03:26:53.920
<v Speaker 5>and off screen. Hey, I don't care where the money's

4241
03:26:53.959 --> 03:26:57.239
<v Speaker 5>coming from. It's coming don't question it kind of deal.

4242
03:26:57.840 --> 03:27:01.000
<v Speaker 4>And then there are certain groups or people like that

4243
03:27:01.079 --> 03:27:03.079
<v Speaker 4>are the useful idiots. They're just playing their role.

4244
03:27:03.799 --> 03:27:06.840
<v Speaker 5>Robert Downey Junior, for instance, he was this recovering drug

4245
03:27:06.840 --> 03:27:09.520
<v Speaker 5>addict and Hollywood elites brought him to a room one

4246
03:27:09.600 --> 03:27:11.719
<v Speaker 5>day and said, all right, kid, here's the deal. We're

4247
03:27:11.719 --> 03:27:13.639
<v Speaker 5>gonna give you a second shot, this whole rich and

4248
03:27:13.680 --> 03:27:16.559
<v Speaker 5>famous thing, but you're gonna play it our way or

4249
03:27:16.600 --> 03:27:20.719
<v Speaker 5>you're gonna have a crazy accident happen. And that's just

4250
03:27:20.719 --> 03:27:23.319
<v Speaker 5>how we're gonna be. We're not gonna soak millions and

4251
03:27:23.440 --> 03:27:25.920
<v Speaker 5>billions of dollars into a franchise with your name on

4252
03:27:26.000 --> 03:27:27.719
<v Speaker 5>it for you to go fuck off and ruin it

4253
03:27:27.760 --> 03:27:28.200
<v Speaker 5>all again.

4254
03:27:28.280 --> 03:27:30.879
<v Speaker 3>And think about it like this too. Iron Man was

4255
03:27:31.120 --> 03:27:34.840
<v Speaker 3>never the head of Marvel never ever, ever ever, right,

4256
03:27:35.200 --> 03:27:39.840
<v Speaker 3>But you get military industrial complex behind it, It's like

4257
03:27:40.000 --> 03:27:42.879
<v Speaker 3>that's their fucking stars, that's their superstar. I mean, you're

4258
03:27:42.920 --> 03:27:46.280
<v Speaker 3>not gonna be able to push so much Military industrial

4259
03:27:46.319 --> 03:27:48.680
<v Speaker 3>complex or DoD or any of these kind of things

4260
03:27:48.719 --> 03:27:50.879
<v Speaker 3>so much with like a Spider Man, you know what

4261
03:27:50.920 --> 03:27:52.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean, like maybe a little bit. I mean I

4262
03:27:52.760 --> 03:27:54.840
<v Speaker 3>know that there's there's probably some military shit going on

4263
03:27:54.879 --> 03:27:57.040
<v Speaker 3>in there too, don't get me wrong. But as far

4264
03:27:57.120 --> 03:28:03.120
<v Speaker 3>as tech and surveillance, is it surveillance or surveillance surveillance?

4265
03:28:03.120 --> 03:28:04.600
<v Speaker 4>So you said it, right, why do I fuck that up?

4266
03:28:05.719 --> 03:28:07.600
<v Speaker 5>To your point, Spider Man with the Green Goblin, he

4267
03:28:07.680 --> 03:28:10.120
<v Speaker 5>was a military guy. He was creating a thing to

4268
03:28:10.120 --> 03:28:12.440
<v Speaker 5>make him a super soldier. He had a glider, so like, yeah,

4269
03:28:12.440 --> 03:28:17.000
<v Speaker 5>you saw hints at it, exactly right. Or the other

4270
03:28:17.040 --> 03:28:19.959
<v Speaker 5>one with the Doctor was Octavia or whatever the octopus dude,

4271
03:28:20.000 --> 03:28:23.879
<v Speaker 5>doc oc, Yeah there's or what's the newer one right

4272
03:28:23.920 --> 03:28:24.719
<v Speaker 5>with your boy.

4273
03:28:26.159 --> 03:28:26.399
<v Speaker 4>Ship?

4274
03:28:26.479 --> 03:28:28.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh you're thinking.

4275
03:28:27.840 --> 03:28:30.559
<v Speaker 5>Of not the spider Man, the bad guy who played

4276
03:28:30.600 --> 03:28:35.319
<v Speaker 5>on Jack Frost Batman, Michael Michael Keaton. I say Keith

4277
03:28:35.360 --> 03:28:36.879
<v Speaker 5>for Sutherland. I knew that what was in the guy

4278
03:28:36.959 --> 03:28:40.399
<v Speaker 5>he talked Sutherland earlier. But yeah, Michael Keaton, he's using

4279
03:28:40.639 --> 03:28:43.719
<v Speaker 5>advanced military tech and he is salvaging it and selling

4280
03:28:43.719 --> 03:28:45.799
<v Speaker 5>it on the black market, all of these things. Right,

4281
03:28:46.200 --> 03:28:49.399
<v Speaker 5>you see subtle hints at it, But it doesn't send

4282
03:28:49.440 --> 03:28:53.959
<v Speaker 5>the same message as Tony Stark iron Man Stark Industries.

4283
03:28:54.520 --> 03:28:58.440
<v Speaker 5>That's a different conversation, kind of in the same flavor variety,

4284
03:28:58.719 --> 03:29:00.000
<v Speaker 5>but completely different intentions.

4285
03:29:00.520 --> 03:29:03.120
<v Speaker 3>Well and just as far as UH think about it,

4286
03:29:03.159 --> 03:29:07.200
<v Speaker 3>even from a psychological standpoint, dude, I bet you they

4287
03:29:07.360 --> 03:29:11.159
<v Speaker 3>they're they're diddling with the Doctor Strange script a little

4288
03:29:11.159 --> 03:29:11.520
<v Speaker 3>bit too.

4289
03:29:12.559 --> 03:29:15.280
<v Speaker 4>It's possible. I think I've seen it.

4290
03:29:15.559 --> 03:29:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh dude, fuck, I loved the Doctor Strange movies, but

4291
03:29:17.959 --> 03:29:20.159
<v Speaker 3>I don't doubt that there's some kind of government you know,

4292
03:29:20.239 --> 03:29:23.840
<v Speaker 3>interference going on in those. But anyway, all right, so

4293
03:29:24.000 --> 03:29:26.840
<v Speaker 3>the third eye all the way opened here, Uh, just

4294
03:29:26.840 --> 03:29:29.600
<v Speaker 3>to wrap this bad boy up. Not all propaganda where's

4295
03:29:29.639 --> 03:29:32.639
<v Speaker 3>a uniform? Even your favorite sci fi thriller may be

4296
03:29:32.840 --> 03:29:37.159
<v Speaker 3>laced with behavioral engineering. The best propaganda is entertaining, and

4297
03:29:37.200 --> 03:29:40.600
<v Speaker 3>it's hidden in plain sight. From scarfaces, rise and fall

4298
03:29:40.680 --> 03:29:44.520
<v Speaker 3>to inceptions, dream layers to the matrix simulation, you're being

4299
03:29:44.559 --> 03:29:49.360
<v Speaker 3>shown truth through fiction, so uh so, uh so you

4300
03:29:49.559 --> 03:29:52.360
<v Speaker 3>won't ask questions in real life. So the next time

4301
03:29:52.399 --> 03:29:55.520
<v Speaker 3>you feel inspired by a brave soldier or a daring spy,

4302
03:29:56.239 --> 03:29:59.920
<v Speaker 3>ask yourself whose story is being told and who benefits

4303
03:30:00.399 --> 03:30:02.799
<v Speaker 3>uh from your belief in it? Because if your third

4304
03:30:02.840 --> 03:30:05.239
<v Speaker 3>eye is all the way open, the screen isn't just

4305
03:30:05.319 --> 03:30:06.280
<v Speaker 3>a window.

4306
03:30:06.440 --> 03:30:07.120
<v Speaker 2>It's a weapon.

4307
03:30:08.399 --> 03:30:11.280
<v Speaker 4>I agree. Fuck god, this is a cool episode, dude.

4308
03:30:11.280 --> 03:30:13.479
<v Speaker 4>We talked about all kinds of crazy shit on this one.

4309
03:30:13.799 --> 03:30:16.319
<v Speaker 3>Fuck yeah, this was one of the more deeper episodes

4310
03:30:16.360 --> 03:30:19.319
<v Speaker 3>that we've done, and uh yeah, I love looking into

4311
03:30:19.319 --> 03:30:22.959
<v Speaker 3>the psychological fucking engineering of all of it, dude, because

4312
03:30:23.159 --> 03:30:25.319
<v Speaker 3>it's all mass hypnosis, which is the reason why I

4313
03:30:25.360 --> 03:30:27.079
<v Speaker 3>love you know, learning about all the you know, the

4314
03:30:27.120 --> 03:30:30.520
<v Speaker 3>hypnosis and the past life regression, because I mean, the

4315
03:30:30.559 --> 03:30:38.280
<v Speaker 3>best way to convince somebody something that they aren't necessarily

4316
03:30:38.319 --> 03:30:42.920
<v Speaker 3>convinced of would be through subliminal programming, right, And that's

4317
03:30:43.040 --> 03:30:44.680
<v Speaker 3>that was one of the key things of why I

4318
03:30:44.719 --> 03:30:47.159
<v Speaker 3>was so inspired by to even learn about that kind

4319
03:30:47.159 --> 03:30:49.440
<v Speaker 3>of shit, because I mean, once you understand how the

4320
03:30:49.479 --> 03:30:54.000
<v Speaker 3>human mind works, you're it's almost like, instead of battling

4321
03:30:54.079 --> 03:30:58.879
<v Speaker 3>through might, it's just you know, uh, learning neurolinguistic programming

4322
03:30:58.920 --> 03:31:02.120
<v Speaker 3>and the key of suggestion and and you know, stuff

4323
03:31:02.159 --> 03:31:03.680
<v Speaker 3>like that. Not that I do that within past live

4324
03:31:03.719 --> 03:31:06.799
<v Speaker 3>aggressions obviously from everybody, but I it's it's the same

4325
03:31:06.840 --> 03:31:09.280
<v Speaker 3>reason why on meta mysteries, I love looking into the

4326
03:31:09.280 --> 03:31:12.000
<v Speaker 3>occult and I love looking into dark magic and witchcraft.

4327
03:31:12.079 --> 03:31:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Not because I'm gonna do it. I just love learning

4328
03:31:14.440 --> 03:31:18.680
<v Speaker 3>how it works. That's it, you know. But yeah, dude,

4329
03:31:19.159 --> 03:31:22.239
<v Speaker 3>fun fun episode. I was happy that we were that

4330
03:31:22.280 --> 03:31:24.280
<v Speaker 3>I was able to bring this. You knew a lot

4331
03:31:24.360 --> 03:31:27.799
<v Speaker 3>about how the operations go, and you know, certain military

4332
03:31:27.840 --> 03:31:30.040
<v Speaker 3>movies and whatnot, So yeah, I mean, when you.

4333
03:31:30.079 --> 03:31:33.920
<v Speaker 4>Scratched the surface, there's tons of movies that go way

4334
03:31:34.000 --> 03:31:36.879
<v Speaker 4>further back, like there was a Navy Seal movie with

4335
03:31:37.000 --> 03:31:39.200
<v Speaker 4>Charlie Sheen in it from the early nineties that was

4336
03:31:39.239 --> 03:31:44.360
<v Speaker 4>a complete propaganda piece there. Look, there's a long list,

4337
03:31:44.840 --> 03:31:46.760
<v Speaker 4>long list of movies that have been done not just

4338
03:31:46.799 --> 03:31:50.680
<v Speaker 4>for military propaganda, or for agency propaganda.

4339
03:31:50.120 --> 03:31:54.120
<v Speaker 5>Or for just overall American patriotism propaganda. But yeah, the

4340
03:31:54.159 --> 03:31:55.920
<v Speaker 5>list goes on and on. These are just some of

4341
03:31:55.959 --> 03:31:58.799
<v Speaker 5>the ones that you good cult member listening might be

4342
03:31:58.840 --> 03:32:01.639
<v Speaker 5>able to recognize from the past twenty thirty years or so.

4343
03:32:01.639 --> 03:32:03.520
<v Speaker 4>So I thought this is an excellent take.

4344
03:32:03.840 --> 03:32:04.600
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely.

4345
03:32:04.639 --> 03:32:07.079
<v Speaker 3>Look, and if you loved this episode, or you want

4346
03:32:07.079 --> 03:32:09.319
<v Speaker 3>to be able to reach out to us for anything

4347
03:32:09.440 --> 03:32:11.159
<v Speaker 3>at on, you want to be able to support the show,

4348
03:32:11.440 --> 03:32:12.879
<v Speaker 3>we have a couple of ways in which you can

4349
03:32:12.920 --> 03:32:14.239
<v Speaker 3>support us outside of Patreon.

4350
03:32:14.959 --> 03:32:18.200
<v Speaker 5>Indeed, the best way to message me would be on Patreon.

4351
03:32:18.239 --> 03:32:20.159
<v Speaker 5>The best way to message Jonathan would be on all

4352
03:32:20.200 --> 03:32:22.559
<v Speaker 5>of the other apps. Listen, we cannot promise that they're

4353
03:32:22.559 --> 03:32:25.559
<v Speaker 5>gonna get answered on the other apps. Okay, we get hundreds,

4354
03:32:25.600 --> 03:32:28.719
<v Speaker 5>if not thousands of messages on a daily and weekly basis,

4355
03:32:28.799 --> 03:32:30.639
<v Speaker 5>all right, there's just not enough hours in the day

4356
03:32:30.680 --> 03:32:35.799
<v Speaker 5>to have five hundred individual conversations go on every single day. Okay,

4357
03:32:35.879 --> 03:32:38.280
<v Speaker 5>that's just the way it is. However, on Patreon, when

4358
03:32:38.280 --> 03:32:40.559
<v Speaker 5>you send a message, I'm the one you get and

4359
03:32:40.600 --> 03:32:42.200
<v Speaker 5>I will be answering you. And if it is something

4360
03:32:42.239 --> 03:32:45.760
<v Speaker 5>that's more towards Jonathan, just say hey, this is for Jonathan,

4361
03:32:45.760 --> 03:32:46.959
<v Speaker 5>and I'll make sure he gets the message.

4362
03:32:47.000 --> 03:32:49.280
<v Speaker 4>We work as a tam like that. But if you

4363
03:32:49.319 --> 03:32:51.040
<v Speaker 4>would like to support the show in another way as

4364
03:32:51.040 --> 03:32:53.680
<v Speaker 4>well as support your own financial future, especially in these

4365
03:32:53.799 --> 03:32:58.079
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4366
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4367
03:33:01.680 --> 03:33:03.559
<v Speaker 4>than ever. And the best way to get your start

4368
03:33:03.600 --> 03:33:05.520
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4369
03:33:05.559 --> 03:33:07.639
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4370
03:33:07.639 --> 03:33:10.040
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4371
03:33:10.040 --> 03:33:12.079
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4372
03:33:12.079 --> 03:33:13.760
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4373
03:33:13.799 --> 03:33:16.520
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<v Speaker 4>I'm not saying that silver and gold is the way

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<v Speaker 4>of the future and that you need to put all

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<v Speaker 4>of your retirement assets into it. What I am saying

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<v Speaker 4>is that a diverse portfolio is a happy and successful portfolio.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I saying ten percent, twenty percent, fifty, I don't know. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>talk with your financial advisor and figure out what amount

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<v Speaker 4>you need to have in precious metals. But every financial

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<v Speaker 4>advisor will say that you need to have something in

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<v Speaker 4>silver and gold. Now is the time to buy. Gold

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<v Speaker 4>is a little over thirty dollars an ounce. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 5>Silver is a little over thirty dollars an ounce. Gold

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<v Speaker 5>is over three thousand dollars an ounce. It's still semi

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<v Speaker 5>affordable to get your hands on some silver while you

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<v Speaker 5>still can. Come check it out cocsilver dot com.

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<v Speaker 4>Again. The link is in the description below. But another

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<v Speaker 4>way that you could support the show and let us

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<v Speaker 4>know what you think about this episode, all of the

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<v Speaker 4>crazy movies, all the crazy shows that we talked about.

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<v Speaker 4>We want to hear from you, good cult members. So

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<v Speaker 4>what you could do right now, you take your two thumbs.

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<v Speaker 5>We know you're listening on your phone, on your Spotify's

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<v Speaker 5>us boost this algorithm and grow everything.

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<v Speaker 4>What you could do is please hit that five stars,

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<v Speaker 4>hit the shares, The Life suscribes the comments, the well

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<v Speaker 4>postly review shares with the friends and family shares s

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<v Speaker 4>if we're here's the deal. The more activity our algorithm

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<v Speaker 4>get promoted to more potential listeners who could then become

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<v Speaker 4>potential cult members. Actor Steve. Fine, ladies and gentlemen, why

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<v Speaker 4>are you ready? Go check out the metamistery Jonathan's other

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<v Speaker 4>Come check out the Cage to Night and come join

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<v Speaker 4>each of us individually for our Wednesday Night lives every

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<v Speaker 4>Wednesday Night on our patreons. Hen, we thank you for

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<v Speaker 4>everybody's already gone and done so.

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<v Speaker 3>And with that being said, this was another beautiful episode.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm the Cult of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm jagging.

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