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Speaker 3: Here is your host, Stege Hobbs.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time

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for another edition of the fact Hunter podcast as we

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record on this Tuesday, July the fifteenth, twenty twenty five.

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I hope this message finds everyone well. As you can see,

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go to our Rumble channel. The links will be in

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the show description. A returning guest, mister Scott Schera's joining

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us from the great state of Wisconsin today and this

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is a follow up. If you recall, mister Sharah visit

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us back in the fall of twenty twenty four and

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told us his plight with his daughter Grace, and recently

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Scott' shared versus Ascension health lawsuit centered on the tragic

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death of nineteen year old Gray Sarah, a beautiful young

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lady with down syndrome who passed away on October thirteenth,

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twenty twenty one, at Ascension Saint Elizabeth Hospital in Appleton, Wisconsin.

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And this case really highlighted just so much injustice in

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the medical system, and it raised concerns about medical negligence,

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which by the way, is the third leading cause of

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death in the United States, a lack of informed consent,

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and systematic failures within the healthcare industry. And I employ

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everyone to check out the website Our Amazinggrace dot net.

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There is so much information and Scott has been just

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doing yeomen's work with billboards, with his website and standing

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up against the medical community because as we always say,

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when you look at vers you might get one report

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for every hundred incidences, and I think the amount of

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people who actually stand up to the medical community to

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the links you did is probably even fewer and far between.

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Speaker 4: And even though.

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Speaker 2: On the scoreboard, you know, they say you lost in court,

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I think personally it's a huge win to get this

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information out there because as you mentioned before we hit

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the record button, you're saving people's lives with this information. So,

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without any further ado, ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to

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the program, mister Scott Sharrah. Thank you so much for

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coming back on the program.

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Speaker 1: Sir well, it's really good to be back, and you

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are one of my favorites. Just with your whole preparation,

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your attitude. I just enjoyed coming. I remember being on

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your show the first time. I had listened to your

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show several times before, and that's when I contact you.

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I thought, Wow, this, I really want to get on

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this guy show. And just a couple of things following

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up on your introduction, George, you know the during this

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COVID era, So we're the first wrong full death case

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to get to jury trial with COVID nineteen listed as

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the cause of death on the death certificate. So that's

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how rare Grace's case was. And I'm going to explain

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what happened to Grace and in a little bit to

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backfill for your audience who hasn't heard of the story.

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But you know, during that time that they label COVID,

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it was thirty nine months long. One point two million

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Americans lost their lives in hospitals during that time, and

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that number got me into full time researching because that number,

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if you think about deaths during COVID, that is not

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a statistic that you want to be number one in.

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But America was number one of all two hundred countries

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on the planet, and we were number one by far.

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Number two was India, whose population is four times that

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of the United States, and their death count was less

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than half at five hundred and thirty four thousand. So

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that tells you something that you don't want to hear,

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which is the country that you've been sold to the

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lie that we're the best country on the planet and

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all these lies that we've been told our whole life.

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I mean, we're the country that was the one that

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started and is behind COVID. So was the whole idea.

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These people, Grace included, lost their lives to create fear

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porn so that people would get the job. And you

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know why were they successful. You know, literally hundreds of

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thousands of people have already lost their lives because of

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the job. And then I just will say about the

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rarity of trial. You had mentioned medical negligence being the

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third leading cause of death. Well, I'm going to even

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go further than that and say medical murder is the

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number one cause of death in the United States. I

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did really a deep dive on that. We had national

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press coverage on that research, and what I found out

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is that when you start looking at the cause of death,

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so historically, heart disease is number one at seven hundred thousand.

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Number two is cancer at six hundred thousand, and number

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three is medical malpractice at four hundred thousand. Well, that

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is one point six or one point seven million deaths

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out of the two point six million annually in America.

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So why do I say heart disease is medical murder? Well,

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because what they do. Once you get heart diseases, they

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put you on a statin. Well, the statin causes you

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to have a heart attack and it causes dementia. When

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you get cancer, they give you chemo. Chemo has a

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ninety seven point nine percent kill rate. So these things

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that they're doing, and I'm not talking about the causes

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of heart disease and cancer, you know, polluting our air,

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polluting our water, polluting our soil. I'm not even talking

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about the causes. I'm talking about the medical solutions. So

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that's why I'm saying medical murder is the number one

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cause of death in our country. So anyway, I just

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So in Wisconsin. Annually in Wisconsin and these statistics come

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from the HBO documentary Bleedout, which was done by Steve Burrows.

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Steve Burrows almost lost his mom at a Wisconsin hospital.

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He filed a medical malpractice lawsuit and was able to

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produce the results in an HBO documentary and it's a

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fantastic documentary. But the number that he said annually Wisconsin

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of patients who are injured or die medically is twenty

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seven thousand. Only twenty two of those twenty seven thousand

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ever go to trial, and at trial, only three win

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for the patient. So you know, it is clearly a

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miracle that we got this far, you know, win or lose.

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You know, God's hand was in it, and I am

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thankful to be used. The trial was live streamed, literally

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millions of people saw it live streamed, and it even

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got on Joe Rogan George and you know, so then,

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you know, being a Joe Rogan, hundreds of millions of

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people all of a sudden became familiar with what is

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going on in hospital settings and it is not good.

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was lifted, people got to see what's going on behind

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the curtain, and it was you know, it was humbling

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and exciting to be part of that whole trial at

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the same time. Of course, personally I wish that we

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would have won, but I am definitely not surprised that

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we didn't, given everything that we were up against at

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the trial. So anyway, that's just my comment about your open.

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Others want to tell just a little bit about Grace

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and why we were at why we did a trial.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, because I understand we get new listeners all

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the time, so I guess a brief snapshot of the

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things that led up to it. And then one thing

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I did want to ask, as far as the actual trial,

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what was it really the hospital or were there because

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nurse by the name of McInnis who were directly involved

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Speaker 1: All right, So I'll answer that question after I do

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the introduction of Grace. So, Grace was nineteen years old,

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she had down syndrome, and as you said in your open,

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her last day on Earth was October thirteenth to twenty

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twenty one. We took Grace in to the hospital on

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October sixth And this is the most important thing I

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could ever tell anybody listening, and that is so you know,

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the question is why did we take her to the hospital. Well,

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we were not awake at that time. We were partially awake,

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two evils. We were not following the government dictates relative

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to COVID. But we had bought into the frontline COVID

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critical care doctors protocol and one of the things in

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the protocol was to buy an oxygen meter. And so

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we started measuring Grace's oxygen and I became my wife

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I so you think, well, what's wrong with that, Well,

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we had bought into the fear of COVID, not realizing

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it was really a pandemic. We just thought, well, this

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is real, and you know the fear. Whenever fear motivates you,

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you're always going to make wrong decisions. And you know,

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so what's the opposite of fear? Trusting God? Satan uses fear.

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thing I could ever tell somebody is that when fear

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starts taking over, go opposite and look to God. If

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I would have done that, Grace would be a live today.

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eight percent, which you know, big picture, that's not a

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big deal now that I understand it. When people get

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a colder flu, you know, oxygen drops into the eighties,

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it's no biggie. But the protocol said if it drops

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below ninety four percent, that's an emergency. We check Grace

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into the hospital with two conditions. Number one is that

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four days as a precautionary and then Grace would be home.

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guard on October tenth. And they didn't just leave Grace

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on oxygen and a steroid. In fact, they medicated her

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what meds they gave her. No, you know, they didn't

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give us any idea of the meds they were using.

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an overdose to the meds on October seventh, the first day.

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we didn't know any of this found out after we

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got the records. The overdose on October eighth, she almost died.

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and I don't know this. I'm thinking she's just because

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of the struggles from the night before. And you know,

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they don't tell you anything. When we turned the page

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after we had to hire an attorney to get our daughter,

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Jessica in as a replacement for me. Cindy, my wife

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couldn't do it at the time because she was sick.

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to the maximum allowable dose, which was forty percent higher

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three doses, which was fifty percent higher than she'd ever

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been on before. And that combination, now she's in her

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third overdose. And to cement the deal, the doctor gave

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her morphine, and we're going to play that clip in

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a little bit to show you what our expert thought

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of the doctor giving Grace morphine because it's hard to

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grasp and that med combination ended up killing Grace. When

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it came time to revive Grace, I mean, Grace could

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have still been saved. So now, Jessica in the room,

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Cindy and I on FaceTime, we all screamed to the

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medical staff to save Grace because their numbers were taking,

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were tanking and from outside the room they won't even

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come in the room, George. From outside the room, they

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screamed back, she's DNR, do not resuscitate. And that's the

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first It's like, what is going on, She's not DNR.

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and they refused, and we watched her die on that

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FaceTime call that Jessica initiated. So ultimately, that was what

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the med combination and the unauthorized do not resuscitate order.

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So then on to your question, when the lawsuit was

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first filed, we did. We actually had an amended complaint,

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so we added battery to the we had wrongful death,

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medical malpractice, lack of a form consent in a declaratory judgment.

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had the entire claim into the court. We had six

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five of those doctors because their actions were not close

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we couldn't sue that nurse if we had to drop

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her also, so it ended up being just one nurse

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and one doctor. That nurse ended up getting dismissed after

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the evidence came in during the trial because the judge

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dismissed the battery claim during the trial itself. So that's

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a long answer to your question. But you know, ultimately

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when we started the trial, we had nurse McGinnis and

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doctor Schokar were defendants, along with the Sention Hospital system.

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Speaker 4: Insane.

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Speaker 2: Now, you had mentioned you had to get an attorney

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in order to get your daughter in there to kind

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of relieve you.

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Speaker 1: Well, so I'm on October tenth. I was taken out

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by an armed guard. Then what was agreed to is

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that we could have a family member come in to

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replace me. So Jessica, our daughter, went to the hospital,

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and they rejected her. They said, you can't come in.

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praise God, I was able to get a hold of

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Grace's special needs attorney that day. It was a Sunday,

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and she got on the horn right away, and it

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took We still had forty seven hours with an advocate

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before Jessica could come in the room and stay with Grace.

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So it's the first time Grace was alone ever in

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her history, since the day she was born. You know,

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so just envision what this was like for my little buddy.

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Speaker 2: And you know, my wife told me a lot of

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stories of the things she witnessed her in COVID family

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and members literally passing away and my wife, you know,

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was the last person they saw because family members weren't

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allowed in and all the stories that we hear. And

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I'm all about forgiveness. We're told to forgive and pray

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for our enemies and the ones who bring this type

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of persecution, but that there also should be accountability to

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ensure that these things don't happen to our children and

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our grandchildren and the coming generations if we don't learn

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and make changes from these things which we witness, which

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is why twice a year I play clips twenty twenty

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NonStop for like two hours, just the most ridiculous things.

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Pastors getting arrested, churches being closed, dispensaries and liquor stores

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allowed to stay open, and jabs for joints and all

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this other ridiculous stuff, and everybody just like the Epstein,

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which I whatever, but the way the society is just

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quick to move on to the next thing without something

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that affected every single person in this world at one

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in one way or another. Twenty twenty affected the way

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we live and if you look it was just five

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years ago, if you look at the economy, if you

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look at the job numbers. I mean, it's just there's

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no going back, and everybody just wants to forget. I

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get the forgive part, but I don't want to forget.

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And it seems like so many people are just on

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with the next thing, and it just shocks me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it's interesting because that is at a very

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fast pace today. It used to not happen quite so fast,

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but now, because of how the media is turning, the

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media cycles so fast, that happens incredibly fast today. And

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you know, you're one hundred percent right on in that

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there's a difference between repentance and forgiveness and accountability. So

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you know, I had to forgive them. You know, God

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broke me of this when I after Grace died, and

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praise God for that, because people ask you, how could

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you possibly forgive them? And the answer is I can't.

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Nobody can forgive the doctor and nurse who did this

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to your daughter. But God can, and that's why we

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have the gospel, you know. So does that mean that

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once you forgive them that they shouldn't be held accountable.

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Absolutely not. And you know these individuals, you know, were

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not held accountable in the antichrist legal system. That's why

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I'm not surprised at the verdict. Yea, you know, the

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this system is designed against the plaintive. You know, the

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jury you go to a jury of your peers. Well,

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it wasn't a jury of my peers. If it was

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a jury of my peers, it would have been people

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like you, George, and we would have won. But it's

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a it's a jury of people who have they were

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in general, they were young. We had one person who

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stood with us that happened to be the oldest person

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on the jury. Outside of her, that the jury would

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have been average age of thirty five or less. You know,

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so they all went to the public full system. They're

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all programmed to trust the system, you know, all those things.

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You know. Then you know when you look at how

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people quickly forget. God warns us of this in First Thessalonians,

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chapter five, verse three, and you can see, so what

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is what is that scripture saying? And God is warning

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all of us to not be duped by peace and safety.

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So you know, let's just review, you know, before COVID

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you know, everybody's familiar with nine to eleven, So what

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happened with nine to eleven? So we were under the

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premise at that time when it happened that our country's

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being attacked. So that creates fear. So then they always

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come up with a peace and safety solution. So what

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was it the patriot? Yep? So then we agree to

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allow twenty four to seven monitoring right as a society,

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and then we completely forget about it. Oh, we got

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everything's back to normal. No, it's not back to normal. Well,

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they did the same thing, this this Hegelian dialectic card

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they play over over and over and over. So with COVID,

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what happens? Okay, so now they create this pandemic and

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so the same thing. It's predictable because the Hegelian dialectic

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is by design we're going to have fear. So then

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what's the solution. Ah, We're going to have the jab

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So the job will eliminate this whole pandemic. If we

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can just get the country jabbed, this thing will go

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away and we'll get back to normal again, peace and safety.

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But it's satanic in origin. So when you have this

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idea of problem reaction solution, and Satan is behind it.

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That's what God's warning about. Don't be duped by peace

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and safety. Well now look at now, zoom out. What

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are people into now? I mean, look at how easy

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was it for people to get duped by a new king.

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So now we have new King Trump and the new

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AHHS secretary and they're going to fix everything. It's the

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same thing. It's just it's always we don't want to repent.

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We're lazy, we don't want to be accountable, we don't

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want to repent. So consequently, our sinful nature always gravitates

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towards peace and safety. So it's very frustrating, George, because

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you know, I for me personally, I mean, we've given

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our life to this. This is all we do. I mean,

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this is now our new normal is. Things will never

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get back to normal, never go back to work. I'll

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never just be able to retire because this is what

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I'm going to do the rest of my life. Why,

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because that's what happens when you submit to God's authority.

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All of a sudden he calls you to do something,

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and things are different now. And anyway, that was a

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long comment to your your.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was tremendous and it's something that we talk

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about often is people are so quick to give up

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their freedom for for for security. And it's one step forward,

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two steps back. It's constant, and it's been happening, uh,

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you know since the founding of this country, which is

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something when when you kind of look into you wonder that, well,

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are we really going to trust all these freemasons? But

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that's another story for another day. I want to focus

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on this and your your lawsuits. There's you could talk

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about this stuff forever.

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Speaker 1: Yeahlton, we're going to go into a different show than

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what we play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, you know.

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Speaker 1: What, Yeah, what happened with the lawsuits? So I'm just

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going to give you a summary of what the jury decided.

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So when you go into a lawsuit, what happens is

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once you get into the courtroom, I mean, your family testifies.

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Of course, you're what's called the fact witness. But then

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what the jury does is they start relying on what

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did the expert say. So we had a nurse expert

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and a doctor expert. Our doctor expert was doctor Burdine

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and doctor actually you know what, George, it would be

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I think we should play that clip now, because then

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people will hear what doctor Berdine said, and then I'm

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going to say what the other expert said, and then

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the jury is left to decide this. And then what

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did the jury decide? That should scare every single person

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listening to take action. So if you could play it now,

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that'd be perfect.

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Speaker 5: The number of the breaches of standard of KRE I

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identify and my reports are too numerous to count, but

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some of them stand out. One was the matter by

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which father Cha was evicted from the hospital and its

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impact on the outcome in Gray Sharrow and I found

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this to be shameful conduct on behalf of the hospital.

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The second issue were the breaches of standard of care

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related to informed consent, and I find it indefensible that

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this patient was given medications very dangerous medications, not theoretically

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dangerous medications, but medications proved by the medical record to

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be dangerous to this patient without informed consent. The events

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on the thirteenth are very difficult to recognize. The repeated

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administration of preced acts on the thirteenth was not just

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a breach of the standard of care, it was insane.

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The administration of Warphine on ten thirteen to a patient

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who was unconscious, unresponsive, had lost her blood pressure, had

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no palpable pulse, and whose respiratory pattern was screaming. To

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anybody would look the administration of morphine in that situation

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is was worst clinical decision I have ever witnessed in

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over forty six years of medical practice.

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Speaker 2: For the listeners on the audio, that was doctor Gilbert Boudine.

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Speaker 1: Was it Burdine? Yes, there you go. I'm going to

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just give a little bit more background. I could not

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hear the clip, but so I'm assuming that you made

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it work on your end. But I didn't need to

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hear it. Hear it, I've heard, I heard it live,

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and I've heard the clip many times. But doctor Burdine,

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I want to just give a little bit more background.

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Of course, I had a chance to work with him,

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just a humble man, forty six year MD, Harvard grad.

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He had never taken on a plaintive case before. He's

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only worked for the defense, so when he's testified at trials,

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it's always been for doctors, never for the plane of

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He reviewed Grace's records and he thought her death was

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so nefarious that he said, I'm called to do this.

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He did not take one penny. Their experts, on the

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other hand, were paid several hundred thousand dollars to review

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the records and come to trial. You know, it's just

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mind blowing what this man did. And you know, the

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jury not just heard him live like what you that.

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So that clip we played during our closing argument so

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the jury would remember what was said during the first

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week of the trial by doctor Burdine. You know. So

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what he has said is that Grace's blood pressure, and

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we know this from the medical records, at six oh

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nine PM, her blood pressure was undetectable, and at six

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fifteen the doctor gave Grace morphine. That's why he said

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this is he's never seen anything this egregious in forty

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six years of medical practice. When he was talking about

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the meds, he said, these are not theoretical problems with

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their meds. They're actual because Grace had two overdose events

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on October seventh and October eighth before what happened on

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October thirteenth. So, I mean, it's unconscionable what happened to her. So,

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now that being said, they so we had one nurse expert,

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one doctor expert. They had one nurse expert and five

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doctor experts, so they brought in five to one. We

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knew this was going to happen because we deposed all

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these doctors. And before we ever filed the lawsuit, George,

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we had made the decision to not file, and by

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God's providence, doors opened up and facilitated us filing. And

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so God called us to file. But why why didn't

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we want to file originally? While you know, after Grace died,

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I started checking things out and I was referred to

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the best medical practice attorney in Wisconsin. And he told

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me that even in slam dunk cases like this appears

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to be you only have a one in ten chance

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of winning at best. And so what why do you

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say that? He said, they circle the wagons around their own.

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He said, I'll tell you an example. He said. I

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had a patient where we represented the family. The husband

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had a sponge sewed up inside of him during the surgery,

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and we lost. And I said, well, how is that possible?

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He said, well, I brought in an expert, and they

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brought in ten. So he brings in an expert that

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says this is wrong, They bring in ten that say no,

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it was fine. That's the standard. Of care. So this

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is what happened at the trial. So the standard of care,

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what people would think when I say that term standard

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of care, you might think, well, it means what are

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they supposed to do? So you have a broken leg,

477
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,079
the standard of care is set the leg and put

478
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:55,440
it in a cast. Well, that's an example of a

479
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,559
standard of care that you just pull the book off

480
00:27:57,559 --> 00:27:59,640
the shelf and you open it up and that's your

481
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:04,240
standard care. Well, in a medical malpractice lawsuit, the standard

482
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:07,920
of care becomes what would a reasonable doctor do in

483
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,759
a same or similar situation. So these doctor experts that

484
00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:16,240
defense brought in came in and said that if you're

485
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:22,920
in a hospital, you are giving implied consent, so informed

486
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,039
consent is not necessary. And because the drugs that they

487
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:32,920
gave Grace are normal, no informed consent is necessary anyway,

488
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,680
because they're just normal. So you don't have to give

489
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,640
informed consent if it's drugs that they just commonly use,

490
00:28:38,559 --> 00:28:42,880
and it's normal that because she's in a hospital with

491
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,839
implied consent, they don't even have to tell us about

492
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,599
the overdose events. Really, George, I'm not making this up.

493
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,240
This is what they're This is what their experts said, Finally,

494
00:28:53,839 --> 00:28:56,799
and this is the most important. Their experts said that

495
00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:02,000
if you don't agree for a pre authorization for a ventilator.

496
00:29:02,079 --> 00:29:05,160
So we never agreed, you know, they asked us multiple times,

497
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,160
will you give us a pre authorization for a ventilator

498
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:10,799
just in case? They said, these type of things tend

499
00:29:10,839 --> 00:29:12,599
to happen in the middle of the night when we

500
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:14,640
can't get a hold of family, So will you let

501
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,200
us use a ventilator just in case? Well, you know,

502
00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:20,799
subsequent to Grace's death, I researched ventilators and found out

503
00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:23,400
ninety percent of the people who are put on them

504
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,880
with COVID die in the hospital. They died twenty two

505
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,400
days later. Because that's consistent with the maximum payout formula

506
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,519
for a ventilator. So if you won't give a pre

507
00:29:32,559 --> 00:29:36,559
authorization for ventilator, this is what their experts said, opposite

508
00:29:36,559 --> 00:29:40,559
of what our experts said. They said that that's called

509
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,480
d and I do not intubate. That's the same as DNR,

510
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,480
and a doctor can unilaterally place a DNR on a

511
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:51,720
patient without consent, without a witness, without a signature, and

512
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:55,359
without a DNR bracelet. So doctor Burdyne said, no, that's

513
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:59,480
not true. You know, common sense tells you that dn

514
00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:01,640
R is the most important thing you could ever enter into,

515
00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:05,519
so it should have a witness, a signature, and a

516
00:30:05,599 --> 00:30:09,359
DNR bracelet, right, you know, it's the blinding flash of

517
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,200
the obvious. But they had five experts come in and say, no,

518
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,119
that's not necessary. The doctor. You're supposed to essentially turn

519
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:21,960
all of your rights over to the hospital upon admission

520
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,960
to the hospital. And that reality of the jury verdict

521
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,079
should scare anybody to take action in advance of going

522
00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:34,519
into a hospital. But more importantly, it should scare you

523
00:30:34,599 --> 00:30:37,920
to get a sense for where is our country at.

524
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:43,359
I mean, honest to god, people are that blind that

525
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,519
they just would turn all their rights over to a hospital.

526
00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,880
You know, don't these people realize that they could be

527
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,079
in the same position as Grace someday and you just

528
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,279
ohe whatever the doctor does, if I die, I die.

529
00:30:55,079 --> 00:31:01,039
But that's that is what happened at the trial. That's why,

530
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,799
you know, I'm not surprised because of how programmed our

531
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:08,680
society is, but I am shocked that a jury would

532
00:31:08,759 --> 00:31:11,559
not see that they could be in this exact same

533
00:31:11,599 --> 00:31:14,480
position as Grace someday and they would be okay, with

534
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:19,160
it anyway. That's the that's the summary of the trial

535
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,279
in you know, about three minutes.

536
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,519
Speaker 2: You know, there's so much to talk about if you

537
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:30,759
go back and actually read the normbog Norremberg Code and

538
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:35,559
it talks about humans having you know, absolute control over

539
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:37,759
their bodies. If you actually look at what happened during

540
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:40,880
COVID and you read the Normburg Code or the rules

541
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:46,240
as it's known that you know all this human experimentation

542
00:31:46,359 --> 00:31:48,000
that they say went on, and you know this trial

543
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,400
in nineteen forty seven, and you look at the ten

544
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,880
principles which I was trying to find when you were

545
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,039
wrapping it up, because it calls.

546
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 4: Out literally.

547
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: To be able to have these just it doesn't matter

548
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,559
if you're in a hospital or wherever. To just say

549
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:11,160
that your physical well being is in the hands of

550
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,160
someone else because you cross this magical threshold is simply nonsense.

551
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 4: And it's.

552
00:32:18,079 --> 00:32:21,079
Speaker 2: The other thing is you mentioned the lawyer was telling

553
00:32:21,119 --> 00:32:23,720
you one in every ten people are actually able to

554
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,359
pull this out. And the one even example he gave

555
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:30,200
was somebody passed when they had a sponge left in

556
00:32:30,279 --> 00:32:33,640
him from a surgery. I almost passed out when he

557
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:35,640
said that, because twenty five years ago when I was

558
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,039
stationed in Hawaii. A guy I worked with, he was

559
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:42,559
a staff sergeant, he worked on black Hawks, he was

560
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,039
a black Hawk mechanic. His wife went in for a

561
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,079
fairly routine there's no such thing as a routine surgery.

562
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,039
Right when you cut somebody open, that's not routine. But

563
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,519
the same thing happened. They left a sponge in there,

564
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,880
a massive infection, and she passed away. They ended up

565
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,720
Triple Army Hospital ended up settling with him, and he

566
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,799
got chapter out of the Army because obviously, you know,

567
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,319
lost his wife. But these are these are the realities

568
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:12,160
because a humans run the medical community, and as humans

569
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,440
were all flawed, we all make mistakes. Right, if you're

570
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,319
a mailman, you make a mistake, the neighbor gets your letter.

571
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,079
Speaker 4: In the medical.

572
00:33:19,799 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: Community, when you make a mistake, it can cost people

573
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,680
your lives. Now, your situation was well beyond a simple mistake.

574
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:31,119
I think what happened in your case was something that

575
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,839
we saw so often, and not just in hospitals, but

576
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,559
in your local walmarts or anywhere you went. You know,

577
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:42,319
this Marxist ideology that they were pushing down to people

578
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:46,720
who accepted it was to have to rule over other people.

579
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:49,559
You know, where's your mask, where's your vaccine? And this

580
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:56,240
whole new world that we live in today, it's just egregious.

581
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: Well, I yeah, I couldn't agree more. I guessed it's

582
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:05,240
hard for me to grasp that people would give up

583
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:09,199
their rights so easily, but it's happened. This has happened

584
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,599
systematically over time. You know, the first time that we

585
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:16,239
gave up rights was in the garden in Genesis three.

586
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,480
I've been studying Genesis three because I'm going to do

587
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,960
a podcast on it. You know, so Satan used the

588
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,559
same tricks then in Genesis three, you know, don't trust God,

589
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:32,760
you know, give up your rights for this quest for knowledge,

590
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,519
and you know, all of a sudden what happens is

591
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,840
our sinful nature takes over and then we give up

592
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,679
our freedom that God gave us to the state. So

593
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,159
what am I talking about? It can be very specific,

594
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,360
and this is why my message the solution to this is,

595
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,400
you know, it's never going to be a new king

596
00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:55,000
or a new AHHS secretary. It's going to be coming

597
00:34:55,039 --> 00:34:56,920
to grips with the rights that you gave up. So

598
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,800
we systematically give up our for taking care of ourself

599
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,000
and retirement. Because now we have social Security, the state

600
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:08,880
takes care of us in our retirement. When we are

601
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,840
sixty five, we get free healthcare Medicare, So now the

602
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,320
state takes care of our healthcare. Well, what is the

603
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,800
reason the state has done all this? This was all

604
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,880
by design under the Satanic principle of collectivism. And so

605
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,239
why collectivism? Well, collectivism means the good of the population

606
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,159
versus the good of the individual. Well, God is an individualist.

607
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:32,960
Collectivism says that if you are a non contributing member

608
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,360
of society, you don't deserve the same benefits as a

609
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,360
contributing member of society. Well, guess who's non contributing members

610
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,480
the disabled and the elderly. Guess how many people are

611
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:46,719
on Medicare and Medicaid one hundred and thirty five million,

612
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,719
a third of them. Guess how much that costs sixty

613
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,440
percent of the annual federal budget. So now they create

614
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,920
this illusion that they've all of a sudden, now they

615
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,559
got to balance the budget. Well, there's no such thing,

616
00:35:57,599 --> 00:35:59,639
because we have a fiat currency. But they create this

617
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:02,599
in the their panic, and we got to balance the budget.

618
00:36:02,639 --> 00:36:06,519
It costs too much, So then they ration care under

619
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:10,679
the collectivism model, they ration care. Okay, so what is

620
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,800
rationing care mean. Well, rationing care means hastening death, making

621
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,320
us die sooner, so it doesn't cost so much, so

622
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:23,480
that hastening death is murder. So what is the bigger

623
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,159
So why did they even figure all this stuff out?

624
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:29,639
Who's they? The Satanic minions? Because Satan is so the

625
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:32,000
big lie that. You know, God's not going to take

626
00:36:32,039 --> 00:36:34,320
care of you. We have too many people on the planet,

627
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,599
not enough resources, so don't trust God. We've got to

628
00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:40,079
do this. And so consequently, you know, people are living

629
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,800
too long. We've got to we have to ration care

630
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,199
and hasten death. So that's what's going on on a

631
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,800
macro level, and you know that's you know, this fight

632
00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:55,039
is about repentance. You know, if people can come to

633
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:59,840
grips with that, they all part I participated, you participated,

634
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:04,840
Every single listener participated in laziness and not wanting to

635
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,079
be accountable. So then we turn our rights over to

636
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:10,599
the state and repentance is the only way out of this.

637
00:37:10,639 --> 00:37:13,519
God is calling us to repentance. That's what's going on

638
00:37:13,639 --> 00:37:14,079
right now.

639
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first ten words of the Nuremberg Code is

640
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:22,039
the voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential.

641
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,119
Speaker 1: Bingo voluntary, right and voluntary.

642
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:31,679
Speaker 2: The world we live in today is not that, and

643
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,880
you're right. They want us to be so dependent on

644
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,400
the government to where it just becomes you know, their rules,

645
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,800
and it not used to be that way. A government

646
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:47,159
that does not live in fear is tyranny, That's exactly

647
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,840
what it is. And when we live in fear of

648
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,960
the government again, that's tyranny as well. I did want

649
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,920
to ask you, you filed this lawsuit back in April

650
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,960
of twenty twenty three, so it was twenty five months

651
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,119
from the time he filed to the time the trial

652
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:04,639
actually started. What hurdles did you have to overcome to

653
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,639
actually get to that date of June.

654
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: Second, it's huge, So we filed April eleventh of twenty three.

655
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,119
Then we had multiple motions to dismiss in July of

656
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:24,280
twenty three, then multiple motions to dismiss in October of

657
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,960
twenty three. Then in May of twenty four, they put

658
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,840
me under a gag order, you know, so then we

659
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,079
had to go back to court for that, and the

660
00:38:34,159 --> 00:38:39,800
gag order was lifted in July of twenty four. Then

661
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,400
there's pre trial hearings, which you know, the the main

662
00:38:44,519 --> 00:38:47,559
hoops to jump through in the pre trial hearings, there's

663
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:49,679
so many motions that have to be filed. So by

664
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,239
this time already, so the pre trial hearings were in May,

665
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,920
so this is now, you know, three weeks before the

666
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,880
actual trial. It was already seven hundred thousand in legal

667
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,920
fees at that time, Joe, and now it's just over

668
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,239
a million dollars in legal fees now that the trial

669
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,880
is done. So you know, it's hurdle after hurdle after hurdle.

670
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,039
And what happened at the pre trial hearings and one

671
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:14,000
of the mistakes that we believe the judge made is

672
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:17,239
you file what's called motions and limony at the pre

673
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,920
trial And the idea is very simple. You're trying to say, well,

674
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,320
what evidence should come into trial. So we wanted the

675
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,519
evidence to be about October sixth through October thirteenth of

676
00:39:27,559 --> 00:39:30,559
twenty twenty one. What happened to Grace during that week,

677
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,480
and so we filed motions in limity to not allow

678
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,239
the defense to bring in the things that I have

679
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,719
researched subsequent to that day. The judge denied those motions

680
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,079
in limity. So the defense was able to successfully put

681
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:51,079
me into the fringe category of conspiracy theorists because they

682
00:39:51,079 --> 00:39:53,239
were able to bring that stuff into the trial. And

683
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:55,800
you know that of course influenced the jury. But I

684
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,440
don't even know if it would have mattered George because

685
00:39:58,599 --> 00:40:02,039
the jury had a biased towards the medical establishment. Of

686
00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:04,880
course they are right, I mean, that's the system that

687
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:05,639
they believe in.

688
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,679
Speaker 2: You know, I always like to do researches on judges

689
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,159
because a lot of them tend to be in a

690
00:40:13,199 --> 00:40:18,199
particular secret society community. One thing I found, and I

691
00:40:18,199 --> 00:40:22,599
don't remember if I found anything on judge Mark McGinnis

692
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,199
is his name, but there was a story actually from

693
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,239
the Wisconsin Justice Justice Initiative, which I guess is kind

694
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:34,400
of a watchdog for the which obviously twenty twenty we

695
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:39,000
saw quite a you know, Wisconsin was in the crosshairs

696
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:42,679
of the Summer of Love in twenty twenty. But I

697
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:47,440
guess judge McGinnis like dropped an F bomb added defendant

698
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,639
during one of the hearings. So just looking back and

699
00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:54,239
again that this is from a third person point of view,

700
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:59,920
he doesn't seem to be you know, a judge should

701
00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:04,719
be just a referee, letting everybody present, and he's kind

702
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,519
of the boundary. It seems like he gets emotionally pulled

703
00:41:08,559 --> 00:41:11,079
into one side or the other during these.

704
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:13,119
Speaker 4: Events.

705
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:16,079
Speaker 2: And when you installed a defendant, and I saw the

706
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:17,639
way you were treated, which I don't know if you

707
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:23,239
wanted to mention or not during this interview, but he

708
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,800
he'd even come under investigation. We're talking about Judge McGinnis

709
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,679
here after he jailed a man over a contract dispute

710
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:30,880
with a courthouse employee.

711
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did see that same article. The Watchdog

712
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,119
group is a liberal watchdog group, which you know at

713
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:42,400
this point I don't care about liberal conservatives.

714
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:43,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's all out the window.

715
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: That's part of the whole siop and get us into

716
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,920
the evil versus less evil dialectics of Satan. But yeah,

717
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,519
you know I found him as a person. You know,

718
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,440
I had a lot of time with him, not just

719
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,119
the three weeks in trial, but two full days of

720
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,920
pre trial and then all those trial days beforehand. You know,

721
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,599
I just I thought as a judge. I don't have

722
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:10,280
experience with a judge, but I just thought he was

723
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,880
a good judge. Remember he's in the anti christ legal system.

724
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,760
So I don't even know what that looks like, but

725
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,239
I mean, it just seemed he seemed fair to me.

726
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:18,679
Speaker 4: Good.

727
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 1: I didn't have any beef with him other than the

728
00:42:22,639 --> 00:42:25,800
motions in limity. I think that was really a grave

729
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:30,280
mistake that he made, disallowing our motions in limiting because

730
00:42:30,639 --> 00:42:33,880
why why would it Why is it reasonable for the

731
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,920
defense to even bring in what my perspective of the

732
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:42,559
jab is, what my perspective, you know, my ventilator research

733
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,719
post Grace's death, Why is that relevant? You know? So

734
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:52,199
then he also did something that was very unique for

735
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,920
it's allowed, but it's unique is that he'd let the

736
00:42:55,000 --> 00:43:00,559
jury ask questions after every witness. Really, I really liked

737
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:06,039
that personally because you know, it gives you the freedom

738
00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:10,039
to answer what questions they have. And then you know,

739
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:13,679
for the people who really don't know their material, they

740
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,840
get tagged. And you know, the nurse that was in

741
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,760
the as a defendant, I mean, she she got tagged

742
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,079
by the questions of the jury. But they ended up

743
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:28,960
asking me questions about ivermectin and all kinds of things

744
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,320
that you know, and I just answered them truthfully or

745
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,679
they're all fine questions, but they really had nothing to

746
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,239
do with.

747
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:36,760
Speaker 2: What happened, what was going on, So they were just

748
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,000
trying to make you out to be a conspiracy theorist,

749
00:43:39,159 --> 00:43:42,519
like what we saw in twenty twenty correct. Yeah, like

750
00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:44,880
the frontline doctors and everyone else. They just kind of

751
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,199
look at these people. But I'll tell you what you know,

752
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,519
here we are in twenty twenty five.

753
00:43:49,639 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 4: I think.

754
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: I've interviewed hundreds of people over the last few years,

755
00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:56,000
and I will tell you the one thing that people

756
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,719
have in common, whether it's someone who's been in the

757
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,360
truth community for a long time or just awake recently,

758
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,440
that COVID has played a large part in the awakening

759
00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:08,800
of people to realize that there's something going on right.

760
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:12,360
That's they're starting to realize that things are not as

761
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:12,840
they same.

762
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a positive as long as they don't go

763
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,199
for security and comfort as the solution. If they start

764
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,519
looking to God, well now we're making some headway. But

765
00:44:26,679 --> 00:44:31,800
if they are looking for solutions through our government, our

766
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,039
government is in on it. You know. The solution becomes

767
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,880
take back. Once you repent, you can reclaim the ground

768
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,679
that you lost. And I have a few bullet points

769
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,880
I just want to review as far as you know

770
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,960
people that hear me talk, you know, assuming that now

771
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,559
you're awake and say, yeah, I want to prepare, What

772
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:52,760
do you do? How can you prepare? And so I'm

773
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,880
just going to ramble through these quickly so that people

774
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,800
understand there are things you can do. I just released

775
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,639
a sub stack this morning. So if you go to

776
00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:03,920
Grace website, our Amazinggrace dot net in the upper right

777
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,119
hand corner, it says subscribe to our newsletter, that's our substack.

778
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,960
And these seven points I'm going to ramble through are

779
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:14,320
in that substack that just was released this morning, along

780
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,440
with all the hyperlinks. So Number one, get your critical

781
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,559
thinking back. How do you do that? Drop your medical insurance.

782
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:24,760
Medical insurance is designed, they're in on it with CMS

783
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,320
Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services. And so once you

784
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,280
drop your medical insurance, now ah, now you have freedom

785
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,639
to think again versus asking the stupid question does my

786
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,079
insurance pay for it? Yeah? No, kidding, they pay for

787
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:40,440
it because they're in on it. Number two, get a

788
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,480
medical professional who does not accept Medicare and Medicaid. If

789
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,719
they accept Medicare and Medicaid, they have to follow the

790
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,840
ration care model. That the government dictates with their whole

791
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,559
incentive program. Number three, Go ahead, say.

792
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,199
Speaker 2: How hard is that to find a doctor who is

793
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:00,599
not involved in the government system, Because like I, for instance,

794
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:05,400
I have Trycare because I'm military retired. People love that

795
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,719
because I guess it's a guaranteed paycheck, whereas a lot

796
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,679
of the other people either don't have insurance. It seems

797
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,840
to me it would it be extremely difficult to find

798
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,119
a doctor who's not in that system.

799
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: It's easier than what you think. As there's a couple

800
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,880
of organizations. Yeah, so I have a hyperlink that'll be

801
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,760
on the substack, and there's an organization called Join the

802
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,719
Wedge that was started by Twilt Brais and that is

803
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,000
all medical professionals who are cash pay only. And it's

804
00:46:34,119 --> 00:46:36,599
organized by state, so you can just zero in on

805
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:39,920
your state and your locale and find somebody who is

806
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,679
a cash pay medical professional. There's a lot of people

807
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:45,800
who are who get this now, and so the network

808
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,719
is there, it's already established. Number three is arranged for

809
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:55,199
non vaccinated blood before the need arises. People don't think

810
00:46:55,199 --> 00:46:57,079
about stuff like this. You go in for a surgery

811
00:46:57,119 --> 00:46:59,480
and you don't need to have a blood transfusion. You

812
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:02,960
don't want vaccinated blood, right, so you've got to range

813
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,840
for that ahead of time. I've got the hyperlink in

814
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,800
the sub stack. Again, get your paperwork in order. So

815
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,239
what is paperwork? Medical directives, document and a medical power

816
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,159
of attorney. You know those are obvious. But remember, and

817
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,039
this gets to number five, is you got to have

818
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:22,280
an advocate because there's no paperwork that ever saved your life.

819
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,519
I mean, we had our paperwork in order for Grace,

820
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,000
but look what happened. So an advocate. If I would

821
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,280
have known in October of twenty one what I know

822
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,719
today about advocacy, even if Grace was in the hospital,

823
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,719
she'd be alive today. And the reason is is because

824
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:40,880
I would have started with the premise that an advocate

825
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,559
needs to start with, which is you are not going

826
00:47:43,639 --> 00:47:48,760
to give any authority. And so this is point number six.

827
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,840
You don't give any authority without your express written consent.

828
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:56,599
So don't rely on the doctor to give informed consent.

829
00:47:56,679 --> 00:47:58,880
And you know that goes along with when you check

830
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,519
into the hospital. Of course, don't ever sign their blank

831
00:48:02,599 --> 00:48:04,840
That's what I was about to mention, you know, their

832
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,960
little blank screen that you're giving the blanket consent. You

833
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,320
know that, that's just that's so obvious. I'm not even

834
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,840
mentioned here. And then the last thing is we have

835
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,440
a link to protocol kills dot com and Greta Crawford

836
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,840
has that website and she's got a hospital survival guide

837
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,880
and I have the link as a hyperlink in the

838
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,599
substackle also. So those seven points, those are practical things

839
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:31,199
you can do once you're awake. And you know, bigger

840
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:35,920
picture is these type of things are under the premise

841
00:48:36,039 --> 00:48:41,119
of reclaim the ground that you lost by tacitly agreeing

842
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,760
to Satan's legalistic method in turning our rights over to

843
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:46,800
the state, and that's through repentance.

844
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,199
Speaker 4: Amen. Amen.

845
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're so quick to sign off on those things,

846
00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:52,719
whether it's an update on her cell phone or you know,

847
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,239
you go in you see these pages with just all

848
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,840
this text on it, and you're just we never read it.

849
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,039
Speaker 4: We sign on. And there are many.

850
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:02,599
Speaker 2: Examples where you can give where you've really got to

851
00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:04,760
be careful when you put your John Hancock on something.

852
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,199
So that's that is something that we should be wary

853
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,840
of anytime we signed something, especially when it comes to

854
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,719
the medical community. Now in this fight with big medical

855
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,599
end you know, presodex, lrazapam, and morphine. We're all involved,

856
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:24,480
which means also Big Pharmaceutical was was involved. Did any

857
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:28,320
of these Did anyone for Big Pharma reach out to

858
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,840
you whatsoever on on on any level.

859
00:49:35,079 --> 00:49:37,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a great question. Nobody ever asked me

860
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:40,559
that question. But no, no one reached out on us whatsoever.

861
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,320
They never offered to settle with us, and nobody from

862
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,119
Big Farmer reached out to us either. You know, I

863
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,000
get it, you know, they they see you know, I've

864
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:54,119
said multiple times on interviews that were not settling. God

865
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:57,719
did not call us into this fight to settle. Any settlement,

866
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,840
by the way, would have come with a gig order.

867
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:04,400
So that's why this was not about settling. An interesting

868
00:50:04,519 --> 00:50:09,480
statistical fact is in Wisconsin and most states have this,

869
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:13,880
is there's a cap on medical malpractice lawsuits. So remember

870
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,280
I told you the lawsuit itself cost over one million dollars. Well,

871
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:23,480
the maximum out of maximum that you can get in

872
00:50:23,519 --> 00:50:26,360
a medical malpractice lawsuit in Wisconsin is seven hundred and

873
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,639
fifty thousand, So that becomes a barrier to ever even

874
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:34,519
filing because who's ever, you know, unless God calls you,

875
00:50:34,519 --> 00:50:36,840
you're not going to spend a million dollars to get

876
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,800
seven hundred and fifty thousand back, And we even said

877
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:43,519
in depositions that we're not taking the money, you know,

878
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:46,760
because we wanted Grace's case to be above reproach. We

879
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,760
just wanted the case to be about the facts. And

880
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,000
if we lost based on the facts, it shows people

881
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:56,800
what is going on, where are we at in the

882
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,920
medical industrial complex and where are we at as a country,

883
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,239
And the facts of this case should just scare you.

884
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:06,320
It should scare you to realize, oh my gosh, the

885
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,119
only way out of this is repentance and reclaiming the

886
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:11,599
groan that we lost hey man.

887
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: And the biggest victory would have been other future lawsuits

888
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,360
being able to cite yours as an example right and

889
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,800
share this is ascension in twenty twenty five.

890
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:24,559
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah.

891
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: If we won, that was the So what we were

892
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,719
hoping for with a win is that we would have

893
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,840
gotten what's called an excessive verdict. So if we would

894
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:38,400
have won and the jury said you get a million dollars, well,

895
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:39,960
that it would have been a two hundred and fifty

896
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,239
thousand dollars excessive verdict. So the judge would have then said, well,

897
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,880
the most that they can receive a seven fifty. That

898
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,679
would have allowed us to appeal to the Supreme Court

899
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,039
and the state Supreme Court, not the national And then

900
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:56,199
they would have you know, we would presume they would

901
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,599
have removed the caps, and that would have opened up

902
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:03,840
opportun unities for more people to file lawsuits, because it

903
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,199
just doesn't make any sense to file a lawsuit with

904
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:07,840
a seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars cap.

905
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, and I was just looking at you just

906
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,840
dropped the substack two hours ago with the gray share

907
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,960
of wrongful death trial showed the world. I do have

908
00:52:19,039 --> 00:52:21,880
the link to your substack in the show notes as

909
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,440
well as well as to your website. But you put

910
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,800
a lot of work into your website. You put a

911
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,480
lot of work into your substack. You obviously with the trial,

912
00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:33,440
you must be physically and mentally exhausted. But I know

913
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,320
what type of person you are. You're doing the Lord's work.

914
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:37,599
But where do you go from here?

915
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another great question. So as far as the

916
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:46,079
exhaustion piece, Yeah, I'm still recouping a bit. I had

917
00:52:46,159 --> 00:52:49,840
taken three months off of interviews and research and even

918
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,920
from just keeping up with the daily chores just to

919
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:56,639
work solely on the lawsuit. So I'm almost caught up, George.

920
00:52:56,679 --> 00:53:00,360
I still have a couple more days of backfill just

921
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,119
to catch up on all the stuff that went on

922
00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:04,880
the on hold for three months. But I'm getting there.

923
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,199
So where do we go from here? I mean, nothing's changed.

924
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,400
I mean a verdict against us doesn't change the game

925
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,800
plan that we've been on. You know, it just makes

926
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,480
it more urgent, you know, So these seven points. I've

927
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,039
been preaching those seven points for a long time. But

928
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,320
you know, bigger picture, I'm going to get back into

929
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,320
the research that I put on hold, which I started

930
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,159
a series called Escaping Babylon, and I had published the

931
00:53:29,199 --> 00:53:33,000
first installment of that series, the Physical Escape. How do

932
00:53:33,039 --> 00:53:36,440
we get out of Babylon? So we're we're in Babylon

933
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:40,599
right now, which means, you know, just so your listeners

934
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:43,199
can understand what I'm talking about, is I have spent

935
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,760
a great deal of time studying Revelation thirteen. And in

936
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:52,519
Revelation thirteen, God explained Satan's dualistic nature, the antichrist nature

937
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,800
and the false prophet nature, the evil nature versus the

938
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,760
less evil nature, and you know, that's what the series

939
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,320
is based on, is how do we once we see this,

940
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,119
how do we get back to God and escape the

941
00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:11,880
Babylonian system that Satan has established to control the entire world.

942
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,559
Speaker 2: If I'm mute to amen to that, you know, I

943
00:54:16,599 --> 00:54:18,960
have the utmost respect for you. I know a lot

944
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:21,559
of people, and listen, everybody is different. I'm not criticizing,

945
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:24,719
but even for me, that kind of loss would be devastating.

946
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,880
And every time I've talked to you, every time I've

947
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,360
seen you on the television or on another interview, You've

948
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,440
composed yourself, for lack of better words, gracefully if you will,

949
00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:43,039
and moreover, such a representation of what it means to

950
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:46,159
be a follower of Christ. And I was reflecting this morning.

951
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:48,599
I don't know if you know who John MacArthur is.

952
00:54:48,639 --> 00:54:52,199
We lost him last night and I've been reading his

953
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,960
book Ken God Bless America on the podcast the last

954
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:57,440
couple of weeks, one chapter at a time for the audience.

955
00:54:58,119 --> 00:55:00,639
And we need more people like that who you know,

956
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:03,119
when we get into these rabbit holes, whether it be

957
00:55:03,159 --> 00:55:07,519
the medical industrial complex, the military industrial complex, that at

958
00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:10,559
the bottom of every rabbit hole is Satan and this

959
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,119
war we're in is a spiritual war, and we have

960
00:55:13,199 --> 00:55:15,519
to keep that the primary focus of when we get

961
00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:19,000
involved in these worldly things.

962
00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: It's absolutely right on. And I will tell you why.

963
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:27,840
You know, you said that, I have maintained composure doing

964
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:30,599
the interviews and things, and the reason is because God

965
00:55:30,639 --> 00:55:33,880
did it, you know, Grace. I'll just say, I'll share

966
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,360
this and I want to I want to backfill with

967
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,920
with the exactness so people can stand on the same

968
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,559
thing that God gave me to stand on. So I

969
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:44,039
was asked in an interview last week about what would

970
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:47,000
Grace be saying to you right now, and she would say,

971
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,559
God did it, Dad, And so why would she say

972
00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:54,119
God did it even though we lost, Well, because she

973
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,079
knows what I know. God is sovereign. So God allowed

974
00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:00,559
this case to get to the point where we've had

975
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:04,280
it livestream to millions of people. I mean, that was

976
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,079
a miracle. And then she would say, next, keep going

977
00:56:08,159 --> 00:56:11,159
earthly Dad. You know, she called me earthly Dad, George,

978
00:56:11,679 --> 00:56:15,199
And of course my response is I will, buddy. So

979
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,159
I mean, I'm not planning on giving up. But what

980
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,119
I want to backfill just a little bit is, you know,

981
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,719
God is sovereign, so what does that mean? God knew

982
00:56:26,119 --> 00:56:29,039
we were going to lose before we ever stepped foot

983
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:32,639
into that courtroom. It's just we didn't. So that's the

984
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,360
neat thing about living the Christian life is you give

985
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,199
it you're all. You just give it your all. But

986
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:43,199
after the verdict is read into the record, it's over.

987
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,920
Now we know, okay, well that was God's will, so

988
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,880
then you can be content with that and then you

989
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,639
move on to the next thing. So that's why I

990
00:56:52,679 --> 00:56:57,559
can maintain composure because I am confident that God is sovereign.

991
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,920
So I mean it's you know, we judge things as humans, right,

992
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:03,119
you know, so of course as a man, you know,

993
00:57:03,159 --> 00:57:05,440
as an emotional man, I wanted to win. Of course

994
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:08,519
I wanted to win. Everybody wants to win. I've never

995
00:57:08,599 --> 00:57:12,119
worked so hard on something that I've lost, you know,

996
00:57:12,159 --> 00:57:14,559
I just all killed myself for this trial. I mean

997
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:17,639
it really worked. I have never worked so hard on

998
00:57:17,639 --> 00:57:20,760
one thing and we lost. Okay, well then that means

999
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,320
it's over. It was God's will and okay, he obviously

1000
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,639
knows way more than me, and he's in the business

1001
00:57:27,679 --> 00:57:32,280
of souls, so he surely sees that more souls are

1002
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,079
going to be saved by a loss than a win.

1003
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:36,639
You know, it's obvious, so then there's no sense in

1004
00:57:37,199 --> 00:57:40,360
worrying about it anymore. It's yesterday's news. So that's why

1005
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,199
I can maintain the the attitude, George, is because I

1006
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:45,519
know God's sovereign.

1007
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,679
Speaker 2: Ay Man, I wanted to ask you one more question.

1008
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,960
You know when people go through traumatic events that they

1009
00:57:53,159 --> 00:57:56,159
are often contacted, reached out, or fall into a group

1010
00:57:56,199 --> 00:57:59,840
of people who have had similar experiences. Have you had

1011
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:01,960
a lot of people who maybe have lost a loved

1012
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,960
one in this type of situation that have reached out

1013
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,079
to you And what was that experience like and how

1014
00:58:07,199 --> 00:58:08,800
is it blessed your life?

1015
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:14,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? Literally thousands of people have have done that and

1016
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:20,519
hundreds of emails and cards. It's fantastic. I mean, how

1017
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:25,920
those things are you know, it's it is lonely to

1018
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,079
do this, you know, so those things are very uplifting,

1019
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:32,840
they're encouraging. So I appreciate them. And you know the

1020
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,280
things that we've been directly involved, and I think I

1021
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,800
told you off air we saved a disabled man out

1022
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,920
of a Green Bay hospital. My wife Cindy and I

1023
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,880
did you know that was a physical saving of a person,

1024
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,000
physically removed him from the hospital. I want to just

1025
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:51,280
go into that for a moment. But many people, you

1026
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:55,079
know via telephone where you know, they're asking for help

1027
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,519
because they you know, they were familiar with the story

1028
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:01,960
and you can walk them through it. And the hardest

1029
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:06,039
part about walking people through it is if they're not awake.

1030
00:59:07,239 --> 00:59:08,880
They have you know, you have one foot in the

1031
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,599
world and one foot in God's kingdom, and you know

1032
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,159
that's a tough place to be because you know, we

1033
00:59:14,519 --> 00:59:20,280
One example was a person with down syndrome that lost

1034
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,599
his life, and that was a local person in Appleton, Wisconsin.

1035
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:29,000
And the sister called me, Uh, she was awake enough,

1036
00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:32,760
but I said, who's the decision maker? And her mother

1037
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,239
and the man's mother was the power of attorney and

1038
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,480
she said she I said, can I come and meet

1039
00:59:38,519 --> 00:59:41,199
with the family, and she wants to trust the doctor

1040
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,440
and her brother. The down syndrome man lost his life

1041
00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:48,440
because of that. So that's hard. That's hard to deal with.

1042
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,039
This man, the disabled man that we rescued, Uh, he's

1043
00:59:53,079 --> 00:59:56,599
become a friend. His name is Robert Payser. And what

1044
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,679
was an interesting thing there, George, is he was just

1045
00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:02,039
about dead when I got when I got to see

1046
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:05,239
him in the hospital, and through a series of all

1047
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:10,400
kinds of providential things, we were able to literally save

1048
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,239
his life. Well then after we got to the point where, okay,

1049
01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:16,119
it's time to take him out, one of the nurses

1050
01:00:16,239 --> 01:00:19,719
was in the room and I said to her, and

1051
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,800
this really gives you a perspective as to where people

1052
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,199
are at, I said to her, and I said, you

1053
01:00:26,199 --> 01:00:28,159
don't have to acknowledge what I'm going to say, but

1054
01:00:28,199 --> 01:00:31,119
I'll may never have this chance again. And so I said,

1055
01:00:31,159 --> 01:00:34,440
you know they were going to kill him, And I said,

1056
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:36,559
you don't. Again, you don't have to acknowledge that. But

1057
01:00:36,719 --> 01:00:40,280
the question I am for you personally is why would

1058
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,719
you participate in that? They had already given him six

1059
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,400
doses of remdesevir. He was near death when I got

1060
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:51,119
into the room, George, and she said to me, I'm

1061
01:00:51,199 --> 01:00:54,599
from the Philippines and if I don't do what they say,

1062
01:00:54,599 --> 01:00:59,719
they'll ship me back. And that attitude I've seen not

1063
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,960
just with somebody from the Philippines. I saw it with

1064
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,559
another nurse locally who she was sixty six years old.

1065
01:01:05,559 --> 01:01:08,800
I asked her she saw an illegal dn R put

1066
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,960
on her dad. I said, well, you come on podcasts

1067
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,159
with me. You're way more credible than I am. I'm

1068
01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:15,599
just a dad, you're a nurse. And she said, I

1069
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:17,719
can't do that. I'm a year away from retirement and

1070
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,000
if I do that, I'd lose my job. So this

1071
01:01:20,159 --> 01:01:24,159
is this mindset that you know, people are more worried

1072
01:01:24,199 --> 01:01:30,360
about their personal being versus speaking out and saving others.

1073
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,719
That's scary stuff to me. I can't imagine not doing

1074
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:39,599
what we are doing now. Yeah, I just don't want

1075
01:01:39,639 --> 01:01:41,880
anybody else to lose their best buddy. I mean, it's

1076
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:45,079
so simple. Why wouldn't you speak out? But people they

1077
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,719
won't do it. It's hard to grasp.

1078
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 2: Well, you just encapsulated twenty twenty in a nutshell there people.

1079
01:01:53,119 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 4: I know.

1080
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,599
Speaker 2: I've got emails letters from people who regret what they did,

1081
01:01:57,639 --> 01:02:02,199
but they did it because of their financial situation. Same

1082
01:02:02,239 --> 01:02:06,360
with police during twenty twenty. I've seen hidden interviews and

1083
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,960
people sent me links to police who were involved in

1084
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:13,079
these shutdowns of churches, et cetera. They felt horrible, but

1085
01:02:13,159 --> 01:02:15,559
they still went through with it because they say, well,

1086
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:20,360
I've got to feed my family and if we don't and.

1087
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 4: Listen, I'm not trying We're all. I'm not trying to.

1088
01:02:23,559 --> 01:02:25,199
Speaker 2: But if we're going to get out of this situation,

1089
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,320
there's going to be a period of uncomfortableness because we've

1090
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,880
allowed this monster to grow so large. So the longer

1091
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,280
we wait, the more painful the separation is going to be.

1092
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:39,679
Speaker 1: If we don't rebuke evil, who's going to do it?

1093
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:45,760
And that's what is required. Now that I just said

1094
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:49,920
that word rebuke, I will challenge anybody to read Ephesians

1095
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:53,320
five eleven, and you're going to find out something shocking

1096
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,639
when you read Ephesians five eleven, which is Satan changes

1097
01:02:56,679 --> 01:02:59,800
the Bible too. Ephesians five eleven says, have nothing to

1098
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,920
do with the fruitful deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.

1099
01:03:03,199 --> 01:03:06,400
Until you realize it doesn't say expose them, it says

1100
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:10,480
expose them in your modern translation. With Satan changed, go

1101
01:03:10,599 --> 01:03:13,000
back to the Geneva Bible, in the Tindale Bible, and

1102
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,679
you see it's rebuke. We're supposed to rebuke evil. That

1103
01:03:16,719 --> 01:03:20,199
means you stand against it. So all the people, for example,

1104
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,639
that they said, well I took the jab because my

1105
01:03:22,719 --> 01:03:26,199
employer made me do it, that is not true until

1106
01:03:26,239 --> 01:03:28,559
you come to grips with the fact that you chose it.

1107
01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:33,840
You cannot repent because you're blaming. It's what happened when

1108
01:03:34,119 --> 01:03:36,360
Adam and Eve were challenged by God in the garden.

1109
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,000
You know that woman made me do it, the serpent

1110
01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:42,519
made me do it. No, God did not accept any

1111
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:45,519
of those excuses, and he doesn't accept the excuse for

1112
01:03:45,639 --> 01:03:49,639
why you say you got jabbed. He wants you to repent,

1113
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,840
and that's what we've got to do. We have to repent.

1114
01:03:53,320 --> 01:04:02,039
Once you're repentant, you rebuke evil. I yeah, it's become

1115
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:06,039
This is a huge piece of why I speak out, George.

1116
01:04:06,719 --> 01:04:09,039
You know the I think the Christian people are the

1117
01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:11,519
ones who are the most duped in our society.

1118
01:04:12,159 --> 01:04:14,639
Speaker 4: That there's a huge falling away of the church.

1119
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 2: There's a lot of great YouTube channels that are really

1120
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,119
putting this under a microscope, and much of it is

1121
01:04:20,639 --> 01:04:22,519
you know, you can trace it back to Schofield in

1122
01:04:22,519 --> 01:04:25,519
the late eighteen hundreds with the introduction of the Schofield Bible,

1123
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,159
and then all the preachers of today who oh no,

1124
01:04:29,199 --> 01:04:30,280
we don't rebuke.

1125
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 4: We just love, just love, just love. Boy. I'll tell

1126
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:32,920
you what.

1127
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 2: If if judging wasn't a thing, Hell wouldn't exist.

1128
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 4: End of story.

1129
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:45,559
Speaker 1: Bingo, that's exactly right. Yeah, the Scofield Bible deception is huge. Yeah,

1130
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:49,440
going back to Revelation thirteen. You know, Satan has a

1131
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,519
physical deception and a spiritual deception. The anti Christ system

1132
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:58,079
is all designed to get us into one world government. Ye,

1133
01:04:58,519 --> 01:05:02,119
the false prou Its system gets us to all one

1134
01:05:02,159 --> 01:05:05,400
world religion. So I mean the Scofield Bible deception is

1135
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,039
part of that spiritual deception. So these deceptions are so

1136
01:05:09,519 --> 01:05:14,400
you know, just the whole idea of denominations. Denominations promote legalism.

1137
01:05:14,719 --> 01:05:20,000
That's an entire spiritual deception in the false prophet side

1138
01:05:20,039 --> 01:05:23,079
of Satan. It's so deep. And you know, this is

1139
01:05:23,119 --> 01:05:26,079
where my studying has gone. And like I said, I

1140
01:05:26,119 --> 01:05:29,199
took three months off of that studying because I you know,

1141
01:05:29,199 --> 01:05:31,679
we had the puzzle piece of the trial. That's why

1142
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:33,960
you know, when I zoom out from the trial, the

1143
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,639
trial was a puzzle piece in a much bigger exposure

1144
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:43,159
of not exposure in a much much bigger shining light

1145
01:05:43,239 --> 01:05:48,360
and rebuking on these the Satanic world system that we

1146
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:53,840
have all become become part of. And it's it's I

1147
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:58,960
had a cursory knowledge of Satan beforehand. Now when as

1148
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,880
I've been studying it, it's like, oh my gosh, I

1149
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:07,199
cannot believe how long. I mean, he's been working on

1150
01:06:07,239 --> 01:06:10,000
this since the Garden, and the same elements that he

1151
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:12,679
used to deceive in the Garden, he's doing the identical

1152
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,719
thing today. Why because it works.

1153
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:17,679
Speaker 4: Yep, we fall for it every time.

1154
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:22,199
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what they've stopped. It seems like

1155
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:26,519
after nine to eleven the world truly changed. And they

1156
01:06:26,519 --> 01:06:28,639
don't hide. And when I say they, you know, the

1157
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,920
powers that be, that the Luciferians, the ones who work

1158
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:37,280
for for Satan, and that includes you know, the thirty

1159
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,320
three percent of the angels that fell with him that

1160
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:42,000
are here on this earth that are playing a large

1161
01:06:42,039 --> 01:06:45,239
part of you know, everything that we see in the

1162
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,679
world today, and it's important. People are starting to understand

1163
01:06:49,679 --> 01:06:54,840
that it's much bigger than you know, just worldly things,

1164
01:06:55,159 --> 01:06:57,480
and people are I'm glad to see people are getting

1165
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,519
back into the Bible. Even you mentioned the Geneva Bible.

1166
01:06:59,559 --> 01:07:02,400
I've I get emails all the time now saying what

1167
01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:04,519
I didn't know there was a such thing as the Apocrypha.

1168
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 4: I didn't know this. I didn't know that. And the

1169
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:08,639
whole King James.

1170
01:07:08,719 --> 01:07:11,039
Speaker 2: You know, we trusted a king to alter the Bible,

1171
01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:13,320
and a lot of people don't know how much money

1172
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,639
King James made from that whole kind of taking over

1173
01:07:17,239 --> 01:07:21,400
Protestantism less than one hundred years after Martin Luther. That's

1174
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:23,239
something I'm working on writing now. I'll talk to you

1175
01:07:23,559 --> 01:07:26,639
offline about that. But it's really interesting a lot of

1176
01:07:26,639 --> 01:07:28,280
the things if you look at the timeline over the

1177
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:33,280
last five hundred years, and how even there's Protestants who

1178
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,880
don't even understand that what that word means. They just

1179
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:38,960
think it's I'm a Protestant. They don't know that I

1180
01:07:39,079 --> 01:07:44,360
protest Catholicism. And that's I think intentionally with Satan's deception,

1181
01:07:45,239 --> 01:07:47,880
and it's just to kind of I don't want to say,

1182
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,800
dumb people down, but to high knowledge, I guess is

1183
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really what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's really I am really glad to hear you

1185
01:07:56,599 --> 01:08:01,960
talk about this. I didn't know how lake minded we were. Yeah,

1186
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:10,480
this is so big, this topic. It's that's good that

1187
01:08:10,519 --> 01:08:15,400
you're I'm glad you're exposing it to your audience. It's

1188
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:19,439
the biggest topic I mean, I can see that the

1189
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,239
rest of my life is going to be on this idea.

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How do we escape Babylon? I mean, it's one of

1191
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:28,840
the things they'll just share with you, George. That I

1192
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:34,920
believe is true is in Genesis eighteen seventeen. That's when

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01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,600
God said to Abraham, shall I withhold from Abraham what

1194
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,079
I'm about to do? And so why does God tell

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01:08:42,159 --> 01:08:44,760
us things in advance? Well, he doesn't want to control us.

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01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,600
He wants us to be prepared. So because Satan is

1197
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,359
under God, I believe Satan is bound by that same principle.

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01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:53,039
He has to let us know what he's going to

1199
01:08:53,039 --> 01:08:55,000
do before we do it, but we have to have

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01:08:55,039 --> 01:08:58,399
our eyes open to be looking for it. And then

1201
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,279
what happens when he after he lets us know what

1202
01:09:02,359 --> 01:09:05,079
he's going to do, and then we go along with it.

1203
01:09:05,119 --> 01:09:08,479
So he's the ultimate legalist. And now we got captured

1204
01:09:09,159 --> 01:09:12,520
in that legal taskit approval. It's a lot like in

1205
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,520
Grace's case. They're saying, because I allowed Grace in the hospital,

1206
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,840
I gave implied consent. So now because I went along

1207
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:24,359
with this revealing that Satan gave, now I gave him

1208
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:28,279
plied consents. And now I'm legally bound. Well that's you know,

1209
01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:30,720
repentance is always the answer to these things.

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:36,560
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard Jordan Maxwell's Maritime Admirality Low his

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01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:37,239
little fit?

1212
01:09:37,319 --> 01:09:39,760
Speaker 1: I haven't. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah I have. I've heard

1213
01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:41,159
a short clip of his.

1214
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:42,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing.

1215
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 2: It's spot on how and even mentions how it relates,

1216
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:51,359
how that the court is relatable to a basketball court,

1217
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,880
and birthing and and words truly have meaning. And that

1218
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,439
that's why you'll find that's just about every person who

1219
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,039
is a senator or or whatever has a degree in

1220
01:10:02,119 --> 01:10:05,319
law because they understand that this is a business. This

1221
01:10:05,399 --> 01:10:08,720
country is a business. And and coming full circle, uh

1222
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,119
to the medical medical side of the house. We really

1223
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:15,760
lost out when when the Rockefellers hijacked big medicine, and

1224
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:20,359
medicine became a business and now it's a trillion I mean,

1225
01:10:20,399 --> 01:10:23,079
who knows how much money they make a year. And

1226
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,520
isn't it funny that they broke healthcare down? You have

1227
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:31,399
health care, right, United Healthcare, whatever, but then they separate

1228
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:35,000
dental and and vision is somehow Oh, that's that's not healthcare.

1229
01:10:35,079 --> 01:10:40,439
That's that's something completely different. It's just when when healthcare

1230
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:43,720
becomes a business. Uh, they answered their first answers to

1231
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,800
the shareholder, the shareholders and and not the patient.

1232
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: Well that's that's right on. And you know, the people

1233
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:52,880
that are making the decisions a lot of them don't

1234
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:57,000
realize that they are participating in evil. But the people

1235
01:10:57,039 --> 01:10:59,760
on that are higher up, sure do you know can't.

1236
01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:03,399
Hannah Errant coined the phrase banality of evil, So then

1237
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,279
you know, banality means it's common people are all participating

1238
01:11:07,319 --> 01:11:08,920
in this evil. They don't even realize it.

1239
01:11:09,319 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 5: You know.

1240
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:12,399
Speaker 1: So you know when people, you know, you buy health

1241
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,399
insurance for example, and so you just think, well it's

1242
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,039
dumb if I don't protect my family with health health insurance. Well,

1243
01:11:19,039 --> 01:11:23,039
now you became a participating in evil. You end up

1244
01:11:23,119 --> 01:11:27,640
by paying your health insurance premium. You're supporting an evil

1245
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,600
piece of that puzzle, and you don't even realize it

1246
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,680
because it's been programmed that this is just normal. You know,

1247
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,319
everybody does it. We all have health insurance. Well that's

1248
01:11:36,319 --> 01:11:38,880
why you know, my number one thing when I went

1249
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,600
through that list of seven is drop your health insurance.

1250
01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:44,279
And there's a reason I put that on there is

1251
01:11:44,319 --> 01:11:48,000
because you know, God wants us to be critical thinkers,

1252
01:11:48,039 --> 01:11:50,359
and you know when you start relying on those type

1253
01:11:50,359 --> 01:11:52,600
of things, you do have your critical thinking checks out.

1254
01:11:53,079 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you I have a family member who

1255
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,800
has been in the medical side of the house for

1256
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,720
long time, and it's not good for the mental well

1257
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:05,760
being having you know, they automatically will just reject x

1258
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:09,720
amount of claims just off the top and having people.

1259
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 4: Calling and crying and complain and not.

1260
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 2: I don't like to like they're complaining, but you know,

1261
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:17,800
obviously having because they'll take your paycheck or they'll take

1262
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,680
it out of your check every two weeks like clockwork.

1263
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,880
But when when it's time for them to cover you, you

1264
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,760
have to go. You know, that's the system more and

1265
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,960
that's that's really what we got to get past. And

1266
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:32,640
I don't like like our government, Scott. I don't think

1267
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,239
it's something that we can fix. I think it's something

1268
01:12:35,279 --> 01:12:38,359
that needs to be broken down and built back. And

1269
01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:40,600
I'm not going to say build back better, but it

1270
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:41,880
needs to be rebuilt.

1271
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:43,159
Speaker 4: Let's say that.

1272
01:12:44,319 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right on, George. It is. It is so

1273
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,399
good to go back and forth like this. I just

1274
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,199
enjoy this type of interview more than than any It

1275
01:12:56,359 --> 01:12:59,800
just it's really nice to be on with somebody like minded.

1276
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: And I can't thank you enough for coming on a

1277
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,760
second time. And I know we have your your website,

1278
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,359
we have your substack. You mentioned a pot you have

1279
01:13:08,359 --> 01:13:10,520
a separate podcast or is that within your substack.

1280
01:13:12,079 --> 01:13:14,760
Speaker 1: It's a separate I released them on substack, but they're

1281
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:18,239
also released on Rumble and Spotify, and you know wherever

1282
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,680
are the producer releases. Some of them even go on

1283
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,239
YouTube if they're not too bad. Most of them get

1284
01:13:26,279 --> 01:13:31,239
rejected from YouTube. So it's called deep programming with Grace's data,

1285
01:13:31,279 --> 01:13:34,880
that's right, and you know it obviously fits with what's

1286
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,640
happening is you know, from about two months after Grace

1287
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:43,039
died is when the process of me depprogramming myself for

1288
01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:46,840
God leading me to become deep programmed started. And as

1289
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:50,560
I've been waking up, I share those things via the

1290
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:53,520
podcast and they end up done being recorded. You know,

1291
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:55,960
there's so much, as you know, once you get yeah,

1292
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,039
there's just it's too much. I mean, I've gotta the

1293
01:13:59,079 --> 01:14:01,319
way my brain work is, I have to take those

1294
01:14:01,359 --> 01:14:03,920
things and then you know, put it in an organized

1295
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,680
fashion that I can go on. Okay, let's go to

1296
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,920
the next thing and the next thing. So that's how

1297
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,479
it's been going. It's been running for about three years now, amazing.

1298
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:14,319
Speaker 2: I'll find that and put that in the links as well.

1299
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:16,479
Thank you again for your time. Was there anything you

1300
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:20,560
wanted to close with, sir before we part ways, Well,

1301
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:21,920
I'll just share that.

1302
01:14:22,199 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: You know, we we as a family, we our calling

1303
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:32,000
is under Genesis fifty twenty, and Genesis fifty twenty says

1304
01:14:32,319 --> 01:14:34,479
what you meant for evil, God meant for good, the

1305
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:37,880
saving of many lives, which is happening today, and that's

1306
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,079
where we see our calling. You know, that's why when

1307
01:14:40,079 --> 01:14:43,760
you ask what's next, it's nothing's changed. Our calling hasn't changed,

1308
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:49,159
and we're just going to keep going with the command

1309
01:14:49,239 --> 01:14:51,560
that God gave us to save lives. And you know

1310
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,680
that's both physical and spiritual. And you know, the physical

1311
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,079
thing we talked mainly about today, but we also touched

1312
01:14:57,119 --> 01:14:59,520
on spiritual, which I think is well, I know, it's

1313
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:04,000
infinite more important than physical because once you know your

1314
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,640
Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, at least you're you're on

1315
01:15:08,399 --> 01:15:11,439
solid ground at that point and they can't do anything

1316
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:12,680
to you once you have that.

1317
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 2: Relationship, Amen, And it's I'm so glad to reconnect and

1318
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,439
thank you for all the work that you've done in

1319
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,119
exposing the evil in this world. I was thankful to

1320
01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:25,319
see the traction that it made again, like you had mentioned,

1321
01:15:25,359 --> 01:15:28,000
it got on Joe Rogan and it was on a

1322
01:15:28,039 --> 01:15:32,079
lot of the alternative news networks, the bigger one. So again,

1323
01:15:32,359 --> 01:15:35,479
in my eyes, it was as much as a win

1324
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:39,800
as it could possibly be. Hopefully people are more awake

1325
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:41,880
the next time that they have a situation where they

1326
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:43,640
do have to go to the hospital and understand what

1327
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,399
they're up against. And again, thank you for sharing your

1328
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,399
story and your wonderful daughter. Again, for our listeners, it's

1329
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:52,960
our amazing Grace dot net substack under the same name.

1330
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,199
The links will be in the show description. And for

1331
01:15:55,399 --> 01:15:58,119
Scott Schrih, I'm George Hobbs. God bless you all and

1332
01:15:58,199 --> 01:16:04,199
until we meet again, my friends, we will.

1333
01:16:05,479 --> 01:16:12,159
Speaker 3: I see the shadows creeping through my mind. A world

1334
01:16:12,279 --> 01:16:19,159
of fashions left my soul behind, becauls face.

1335
01:16:20,199 --> 01:16:22,359
Speaker 6: They turned to gray and stone.

1336
01:16:24,119 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 3: I've lost in silence, wondering, not alone. My heart's a fire,

1337
01:16:32,319 --> 01:16:40,239
but the flames gone, cold, weight of sin. It's taking

1338
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:47,119
all save by the grace of God. I'm rising again

1339
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,079
through the dug through the pain where the light boat.

1340
01:16:50,199 --> 01:16:53,520
Save by the grace of God, I'm making a change

1341
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:54,520
from me ashes.

1342
01:16:54,600 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 7: I crawl through the fire in.

1343
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 3: The streets are empty, but the ghost still call. There

1344
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:14,479
was spers echo off these broken walls.

1345
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:21,800
Speaker 6: I lead my dreams in shades of inna blue, but

1346
01:17:22,079 --> 01:17:25,920
every step it leads me back to you.

1347
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:32,560
Speaker 3: And mus soles are river, but it's drawn.

1348
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:36,279
Speaker 6: I'm reaching upward to.

1349
01:17:36,399 --> 01:17:42,399
Speaker 7: The crimson sky. Save by the.

1350
01:17:42,399 --> 01:17:46,119
Speaker 3: Grace of God. I'm rising again through the dark, through

1351
01:17:46,159 --> 01:17:48,920
the pain where the light bore name, by the grace

1352
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,199
of God, I'm breaking the chain from the ashes.

1353
01:17:52,239 --> 01:17:54,359
Speaker 7: I crawled through the firing rain.

1354
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:01,640
Speaker 4: God sits all leaves.

1355
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 3: It cuts through the night, a fleeting spark in this

1356
01:18:05,159 --> 01:18:09,520
endless fight. The heavens tremble, the stars burned low, but

1357
01:18:09,640 --> 01:18:11,159
grace keeps calling.

1358
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,119
Speaker 4: Where the lost one's go.

1359
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 3: I see the dog is breaking through the hays, a

1360
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:20,279
fleeting mercy in this endless mays. The chain's arrested. The

1361
01:18:20,399 --> 01:18:28,560
fallen sells ground. By the grace of God. My soulsman Save,

1362
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,479
by the grace of God. I'm rising again through the dark,

1363
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,840
through the pain where the light won't save.

1364
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,079
Speaker 7: By the grace of God.

1365
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 3: I'm breaking the chains from me Ashes.

1366
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:47,560
Speaker 7: I crawled through the fire and rain, and.

1367
01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 3: Oh save, by grace I'm hold.

1368
01:18:51,079 --> 01:18:55,159
Speaker 7: I'm free, shine all fame.

1369
01:18:56,039 --> 01:19:02,039
Speaker 3: They can hold me, save my A gresive God was.

1370
01:19:02,079 --> 01:19:03,159
Speaker 7: In stayd.

1371
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 3: Pay more with the line let the Darkness cave.

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