WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:04.040 You're listening to Everything out There with your host Steve Stockton. 2 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:19.600 Hello friends, Hello, hello everybody, and welcome back everything out there. 3 00:00:19.640 --> 00:00:22.440 I'm your host Steve Stockton here on the Clyde Lewis 4 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:25.920 Ground zero Radio Network. Joining me tonight have a couple 5 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:31.600 of paranormalists. Frequent visitor Cisco Murdoch and coming back for 6 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:33.880 the second time or no accident. This is I think 7 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:34.560 her third time. 8 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:36.960 Lynn one day? Lynn, is this your your Is this 9 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:38.359 your second or third time here? 10 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:41.359 I forget third time, maybe even fourth time. I think 11 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:42.240 it is the third time. 12 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:44.200 Yeah, but I'm telling you it's been a few and 13 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:47.719 Cisco has been here like half a dozen. So anyway, 14 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:50.719 I thought i'd have these ladies in tonight. They're both paranormalists, 15 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:54.039 and we'll just have a paranormal potpourri and talk about 16 00:00:54.119 --> 00:00:56.799 whatever's strange things are on our mind. It's uh, we're 17 00:00:56.799 --> 00:00:59.880 into August now, so spooky season is coming up. Nicoll 18 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.759 already got the house decorated here. What's going on in 19 00:01:03.079 --> 00:01:05.560 your world's paranormal wives of Ladies? 20 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:07.840 Yeah, you go, oh, I was going to have you 21 00:01:07.920 --> 00:01:10.519 go for Cisco. I just came back from the bash. 22 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:13.000 Actually this was my first time to Pennsylvania. It was 23 00:01:13.000 --> 00:01:16.040 my first time to the Gettysburg Bash, and it was 24 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:20.359 really a great time. Between the two hotels everything they 25 00:01:20.400 --> 00:01:23.159 had everything connected and there were all kinds of things 26 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:26.040 in both lobbies. So if ever you do get to go, 27 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:29.920 make sure that you go into both hotels because they 28 00:01:29.920 --> 00:01:33.599 have different things going on in both, as well as 29 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:36.079 the conference room and all that area back around there. 30 00:01:36.599 --> 00:01:40.159 But definitely don't miss out on a bus tour. I 31 00:01:40.560 --> 00:01:42.319 meant to take one. I'm going to take one next 32 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:46.640 year when I go. But it was wonderful meeting so 33 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:50.680 many people of like mind and Pam did an amazing 34 00:01:50.760 --> 00:01:55.040 job with the Gettysburg Bash. I was fortunate enough to 35 00:01:55.200 --> 00:01:58.319 get to stay in an airbnb with two other couples 36 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:01.079 that were friends, and so it was nice, you know, 37 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:03.879 having we we all went to dinner together and stuff 38 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:07.239 like that, and you know, so it was it was nice. 39 00:02:07.280 --> 00:02:10.639 We actually had dinner with the new paranormal group it's 40 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:14.960 called Para at Para a Normal. They're just filming now 41 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:17.560 their first season, so we we got pictures and stuff 42 00:02:17.599 --> 00:02:20.199 taken with them. And of course that Batman was there 43 00:02:20.240 --> 00:02:23.360 and that that Michael guy with the white thing, but 44 00:02:23.560 --> 00:02:27.479 it was it was a great time and I really 45 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:29.879 enjoyed it. So that's that's one of the things that 46 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:32.840 I did. I do have some things coming up. I 47 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:34.719 did here to hit a deer on the way home 48 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:38.120 and kind of messed up my car. I've got plans 49 00:02:38.159 --> 00:02:42.360 to go to Virginia for a for two paranormal events 50 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:45.960 within the are weekends apart and to do both of 51 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:50.719 those as well as I'm gonna be on some shows 52 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:54.080 coming up, some podcasts coming up, and my Guya show 53 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:56.520 is out with George Nori on Beyond Belief. It was 54 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:59.599 released a couple of months ago, so it's just been. 55 00:02:59.560 --> 00:03:01.960 A real bit a lot of stuff going on there. 56 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:03.840 What about you, Cisco, did you get to go to 57 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:04.680 the brus this year? 58 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:08.479 I haven't done a damn thing. Steve, she was moving. 59 00:03:11.120 --> 00:03:14.240 I'm just yeah. I mean, we do this every day, 60 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:17.960 you know. It's it's it's amazing to be in this. 61 00:03:18.120 --> 00:03:20.360 There's always something we talk about it when you know, 62 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:22.719 we all get together on the show. Steve's been on 63 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:25.360 my show, I've been on Lynn show. Lyn's been on 64 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:27.479 my shows. Lynn, Steve and I have all been on 65 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:30.840 each other. It's just it's a comfortable situation because we 66 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:33.360 don't have to do any preliminaries ahead of time. We 67 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:36.039 all know with each other about where each other are in, 68 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:40.560 if you can call it an understanding your comfortable spot. 69 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.080 I think you know where we sit in the paranormal 70 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:45.159 and every once in a while we'll bump into somebody 71 00:03:45.199 --> 00:03:47.319 that comes way out of left field and you know, 72 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:49.599 tells you, you know, ghost are all made out of green, 73 00:03:49.680 --> 00:03:52.400 yellow or something, and you got to like, okay, because 74 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:54.719 that's where they are. You know, there's no I don't 75 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:57.000 think there's any wrong place to be in this, but 76 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:00.840 there is definitely a comfort would be able to sit 77 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:03.759 with people who just are open minded about you know, 78 00:04:03.800 --> 00:04:07.039 they don't argue about somebody's experience. You know, they don't 79 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:09.960 you know, are you sure you know it had red eyes? 80 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:12.479 Are you sure they weren't blue? Because mine had blue 81 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:15.560 and yours can't have read because you know, that makes 82 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:18.480 it all of that stuff is just gone. And I 83 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:20.879 think that that's one of the things that happens too 84 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:24.319 when you go to a paranormal convention or anything like that. 85 00:04:24.480 --> 00:04:27.560 UFO Bigfoot. You know, there's thousands of different names you 86 00:04:27.560 --> 00:04:31.759 could combinations, but that's the thing. I think what we 87 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:34.879 also need to do is maybe at these conferences, just 88 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:38.639 set out everybody in a big, you know, room where 89 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:42.120 everybody can talk, nobody's more important than anybody else, and 90 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:45.120 you know, stand up and say, hey, what's the most 91 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:48.839 amazing thing that you've ever you know, experienced? Was it? 92 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:51.279 You know it might not have been an experience for yourself, 93 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:54.560 but did you read a true account of an experience 94 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:57.759 that just really set you know, you in a different 95 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:01.240 spot and what was it? And why? You know? Because 96 00:05:01.279 --> 00:05:04.639 everybody is always running around those things, and everybody at 97 00:05:04.639 --> 00:05:08.560 the different tables, each team or person or experiencer or 98 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.759 whatever it may be, they have that one piece or 99 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:14.720 that you know, a couple of pieces of information and 100 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:18.600 it's and it really seems to be we just can't 101 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:21.480 melt together somehow and get okay, this is where we 102 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:24.439 are now. Steve and I try to do this all 103 00:05:24.439 --> 00:05:26.839 the time on Mondays, where we'll go back to like 104 00:05:26.879 --> 00:05:29.160 the sixties and say, well, they had the same they're 105 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:33.600 talking the same conversation then as we're having now, and 106 00:05:33.680 --> 00:05:35.399 what have we done with fifty years? You know what 107 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:38.720 I mean? But it's it doesn't really matter that we're 108 00:05:38.720 --> 00:05:43.680 not falling on any specific concrete answers. It's more of 109 00:05:43.879 --> 00:05:46.480 comfort zones, I think. And it's really nice to be 110 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:51.120 in a comfort zone, a paranormal zone, I guess, comfort 111 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:53.680 zone with people where you can just talk about it 112 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:57.480 and they understand what you're saying and you're not worried 113 00:05:57.519 --> 00:05:59.519 about oh gosh, you know, the last time I told 114 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.360 this story, forgot to mention the green sweater, And because 115 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:04.639 I didn't mention the green sweater this time, they're going 116 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:06.959 to think I made it up. You know, it shouldn't 117 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:07.480 be like that. 118 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:11.120 We all know what we saw and what we experienced 119 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:12.680 and what we heard, and we all know that each 120 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.839 other knows that, so we don't have anything to prove 121 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:19.160 to one another. Yeah, because none of us are skeptics. 122 00:06:19.199 --> 00:06:22.120 We're all the believers. And I've had our own experiences 123 00:06:22.160 --> 00:06:26.759 where experiences and paranormalists, and it's just it's nice to 124 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:28.360 just chat would like mind to people. 125 00:06:28.800 --> 00:06:31.480 Yeah, ye, it absolutely is. And you know the thing 126 00:06:31.560 --> 00:06:33.959 is too is you know, for people that are going 127 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:35.519 to be listening in, this is not the one on 128 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:39.839 one class. This is the advanced class. So and it's 129 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:43.240 nice to have that because we can talk openly about 130 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:45.399 these things. Something I did want to mention as a 131 00:06:45.439 --> 00:06:50.519 side note tonight is the lions Gate. It is the 132 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:54.000 opening for manifestation and it is a Lion's Gate on 133 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:57.439 steroids because it's mixed in with a new moon, so 134 00:06:57.680 --> 00:07:01.079 anybody out there, and it does kind of overshadow for 135 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:03.759 a few days I think until August tenth or something 136 00:07:04.319 --> 00:07:08.439 like that, but like today is the biggest day. So 137 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.920 please people, if you are not familiar with the Lionsgate, 138 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:17.000 google it, find out how to manifest your dreams and 139 00:07:17.680 --> 00:07:21.040 definitely do that today and put it out there. So 140 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:22.759 I just wanted to share that with everybody. 141 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:25.199 Yeah, I appreciate that. I've been reading up on that 142 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:25.680 a little bit. 143 00:07:25.680 --> 00:07:27.920 A lot of people are talking about it, and I've 144 00:07:27.920 --> 00:07:31.240 been watching the moon signs because of the coming baby. 145 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:34.920 Now he's four weeks and five days I think from today, 146 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:37.839 but I think he's going to be here a little earlier. 147 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:41.160 You got that blue moone the Sturgeon moon coming on 148 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:43.879 the nineteenth. Wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't show up 149 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:47.000 in that week but remains to be seen. 150 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:50.439 I got goosebumps on that. 151 00:07:50.639 --> 00:07:55.000 Yeah, yeah, cool, little man's coming. 152 00:07:55.079 --> 00:07:57.519 How only four weeks. Where did the time go? 153 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:01.680 It was, like I'm telling you, we found out New 154 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:05.519 Year's Day that we were expecting and just we were thinking, wow, 155 00:08:05.639 --> 00:08:08.199 for forty weeks, that's a long time. But here it 156 00:08:08.240 --> 00:08:11.360 is like four and in a couple of days, and 157 00:08:11.399 --> 00:08:13.040 it's just it's it's flown by. 158 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:15.920 Tell you what a good A lot faster after they 159 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:16.480 get here too. 160 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:21.759 That that is so true. So is Nicole wearing your shoes? Steve? 161 00:08:22.519 --> 00:08:24.879 Is she what is she wearing your shoes with her 162 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:26.800 pregnancy feet? You know, your feet get really but I 163 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:29.319 used to have to wear my my husband's. 164 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.560 She probably didn't want to wear my shoes, but she 165 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:34.919 had to get some different, more comfortable shoes and socks too. 166 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:40.279 She likes those little, uh, the low profile socks, but 167 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:42.559 she she did have to borrow some of my socks. 168 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:48.000 There you go, that's standard. But yeah, you know, you 169 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:51.360 guys are so to me. I'm in all both of you. 170 00:08:51.360 --> 00:08:54.120 You're very you're amazing, your you're good people, and you've 171 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.360 had so much even more experience, much longer than even 172 00:08:57.399 --> 00:08:59.879 I have had in the field. And I I just 173 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:03.519 I'm you know, I just love hearing you know some 174 00:09:03.639 --> 00:09:06.360 of your stories and things like that that you share 175 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:08.960 and you know, it's just going. 176 00:09:09.080 --> 00:09:12.279 I figured out that between the both of us, we've 177 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:14.960 got over one hundred years experience in this and that's 178 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:19.639 no bullshit. That's that's the true experiencing when I was 179 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:22.759 in the single digits and Cisco did too. I'll be 180 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:27.360 sixty one this year, so there you go. That's probably 181 00:09:27.399 --> 00:09:31.159 closer to what one hundred and fifty or no, not 182 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:34.080 that much, one hundred and ten years or something. 183 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:36.279 Like that, but a little closer. Yeah, that's true. 184 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:37.039 True. 185 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:40.360 People always get It's not that I'm sorry, honey, I 186 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:42.320 just want to say this too. People always try to 187 00:09:42.360 --> 00:09:43.960 get us all the times. How the hell can you 188 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:47.559 remember something from when you're two or three? And I'm like, look, 189 00:09:47.799 --> 00:09:51.240 I bet you you remember flashes too. Now if you 190 00:09:51.320 --> 00:09:56.000 have closed moments like that finding moment, it's profound, like 191 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:59.840 you remember when you know mine, I think I remembered 192 00:09:59.879 --> 00:10:03.200 the most because there was so many teenage girls screaming 193 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:06.279 around me, you know, and my mom because the whole 194 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:08.279 house was filled with you know, my sisters were all 195 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:12.600 teens at the time, and there's just a lot of emotion. 196 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:16.399 And of course it's not a sometimes I remember, not complete, 197 00:10:16.440 --> 00:10:22.480 like a flowing, complete video playing out from beginning to end. 198 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:27.440 Sometimes it's it's more like like a flat like flashes, 199 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:30.759 like almost like watching an old uh, an old v 200 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:35.120 VHS tape or something that's got a couple of glitches 201 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:38.600 in it, you know. And I Steve and I talked 202 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:43.159 about this when we first got together, trying to tell 203 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:47.960 these stories without filling in the gaps, because you try 204 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:51.679 to fight yourself when you're okay, well, you know, how 205 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:53.399 did I get from the bedroom to the living room. 206 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:56.039 You know, I'm just making that part up, but you know, 207 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:59.320 so you assume it and and and you know, well 208 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:02.519 somebody I must walk or somebody carried me or whatever, 209 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:05.320 and you fill that gap in it. After a while, 210 00:11:06.159 --> 00:11:09.799 I think that that can start manifesting as it really happened. So, 211 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.639 you know, that's the main thing. Is Like when I 212 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:16.080 was telling Steve the first time about my story, I'm like, 213 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:19.000 I don't remember exactly what happened here, but I remember 214 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.039 at that time I was up higher and I was 215 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:23.600 looking over my you know, my sister's shoulder or whatever, 216 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:25.600 and I saw my sister sitting on the couch and 217 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:29.279 said this, you know, but you know, when you tell 218 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:33.039 a story like that, you try very hard to be 219 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:35.799 honest and say, you know, I don't remember how I 220 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:37.759 got from there to there. I just wound up there 221 00:11:37.799 --> 00:11:40.360 and then this was what happened. But when you're being 222 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:42.840 honest like that, people are like, well, I don't know, 223 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:44.240 so you can't win either way. 224 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:49.720 Tell then, I have, especially, like we said, with those 225 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:53.120 defining moments, I have almost total recall. I have a 226 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:56.360 near photographic memory and have ever since childhood. I can 227 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:59.440 tell you every single thing about it the way I 228 00:11:59.480 --> 00:12:01.360 remember it. I've had people saying, oh, you've got to 229 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:06.240 be lying, because nobody remembers that much detail I was there. 230 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:13.480 You know, because we're you know, speaking of people always say, well, 231 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:15.559 you're just trying to sell your book. Let me tell 232 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:18.080 you people, you know, we h one of us has 233 00:12:18.120 --> 00:12:21.919 great books out there. You know, uh Lynn has several, 234 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:24.840 and Steve has a bunch, and I've got one with Steve. 235 00:12:25.399 --> 00:12:28.879 And it's you're you're not doing it for that. I 236 00:12:28.919 --> 00:12:31.799 mean the amount of time when you're writing a book 237 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:34.759 and you're putting down your experiences that really happened to you. 238 00:12:34.759 --> 00:12:36.960 You're trying to be like I said, very careful, and 239 00:12:37.399 --> 00:12:39.879 you're wording and you're trying to be expressive and you're 240 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:43.559 trying to be descriptive so the reader can be there, 241 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:47.960 you know, but more so, more over than that, you're 242 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:50.840 you know, you're also going through the emotion of it 243 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:59.159 all and you're trying to be clear and without Sometimes 244 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:01.440 people what you think you saw it, Well, I'll give 245 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:04.840 you all the things I thought. You know, you pick 246 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:07.960 because I don't know, this is what I saw and 247 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:10.799 as I think it's very interesting too when you have 248 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:18.080 an experience like that at a young age and you 249 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:21.559 talk to somebody decades later about it and then see 250 00:13:21.559 --> 00:13:24.240 it all new through their eyes and get new ideas. 251 00:13:24.240 --> 00:13:25.720 Steve and I have done that a lot of times, 252 00:13:25.759 --> 00:13:28.279 and I think that's where most of our learning, me is. 253 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:30.799 When there was somebody there with me and they don't 254 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:31.559 remember much of. 255 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.200 All about it. I've had that happen, like with my nephew. 256 00:13:34.559 --> 00:13:38.159 He was granted four years younger than me, but we 257 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.360 had some experiences and I remember it in great detail, 258 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:42.879 and I'll tell it and tell it, tell it and 259 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:46.240 he's like, I don't remember that, but I mean I 260 00:13:46.320 --> 00:13:48.600 obviously do. I'm not just making shit up. 261 00:13:48.639 --> 00:13:49.039 You know that. 262 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:53.320 I mean, it's aggravating that that people don't have the 263 00:13:53.360 --> 00:13:56.320 same brain and memory that you do when you especially 264 00:13:56.320 --> 00:13:57.399 when you're telling the story. 265 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:01.200 Yep, with my brother the thame, he doesn't remember any 266 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.200 of it, not any They. 267 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.519 Just don't want to remember a lot of it wasn't 268 00:14:05.679 --> 00:14:08.879 as important to them as it was to me, obviously, 269 00:14:09.000 --> 00:14:10.360 But again. 270 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:13.960 That's I went to. 271 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.559 High school with people for four years and run into 272 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:19.639 them later in life and like, nah, I don't remember. Yeah, 273 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:21.240 we were in the same class together. We were in 274 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:24.200 Miss Bradford's English class. I said on the I don't 275 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:28.000 remember you did, but oh well I was kind of anyway, So. 276 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:31.600 Yeah, yeah, and I think there is some some there. 277 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:34.000 I mean, it's a known fact. I'm sure that you 278 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:40.159 know we blocked trauma. You know, it may very well be. 279 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:44.440 This is sounds silly as all get out, but you 280 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.440 know how dogs will have They have like I don't 281 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:49.000 know how many smells, like four hundred and something. You know, 282 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:51.000 I'm sure I got that wrong, but just put that 283 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:55.159 there as a placeholder, and they can only hold the 284 00:14:55.240 --> 00:14:59.600 memory of that amount of sense and once a new 285 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:02.240 income and one's got to go. So I'm wondering if 286 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:05.080 people are like that, they have so much ram in 287 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.559 their head, so they get rid of the memories. They 288 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:09.279 don't really want to keep hold on of the ones 289 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:12.000 they do. And I think that that that doesn't make 290 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:14.840 any medical or scientific sense the way I said it, 291 00:15:14.879 --> 00:15:16.399 but I think it makes a human sense. 292 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:17.879 I think it does. 293 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.279 And you know, so like that goldfish in a bowl, 294 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:24.399 you know, by the time they swam around that they 295 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:27.120 forgot everything they saw and then it's all new again. 296 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:30.519 And I think there are people that have that goldfish 297 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:31.679 attention span. 298 00:15:31.960 --> 00:15:35.320 Well, you know, and speaking of the years of experience 299 00:15:35.480 --> 00:15:38.799 in this room right now, we have one hundred and 300 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:42.840 sixty years of experience because I remember vivid stories when 301 00:15:42.840 --> 00:15:46.320 I was five and remembered seeing because we lived three 302 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:50.399 short blocks behind a hospital, seeing people spirits and patient 303 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:53.960 gowns walking through, and it was it was commonplace for us. 304 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:56.120 I mean, it was like there's the toaster, there's the door, 305 00:15:56.159 --> 00:15:59.480 there's a ghost, you know, and so we didn't learn 306 00:15:59.480 --> 00:16:01.720 to be afraid of them. A lot of people too, 307 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:04.399 I think, like what you both were saying as well, 308 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.039 sometimes people it's kind of a selective thing and they 309 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:11.279 tunes of it out because in the generations that we 310 00:16:11.519 --> 00:16:14.879 grew up in, you learn to keep your mouth shut 311 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.240 because you didn't want to be the weirdo or the 312 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:19.960 one that the white coats came and took away. You know, 313 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:23.279 you didn't the Joneses. Everything was about the Joneses. I 314 00:16:23.320 --> 00:16:25.200 don't know where somebody came up with that name and 315 00:16:25.240 --> 00:16:27.600 what it looked like, and everything was, you know, what 316 00:16:27.919 --> 00:16:30.960 face value. So you didn't dare And then when you 317 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:34.159 throw traditional religion in with it too, then you've got 318 00:16:34.200 --> 00:16:37.799 a missmash of you know, you have to hide it, 319 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:40.480 and now you even start to doubt yourself, you know. 320 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:43.840 So anyway, it's nice to be here with you guys, 321 00:16:43.879 --> 00:16:45.120 because I don't have to do that here. 322 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.159 That's so true, and you know there's a great point 323 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:50.639 and not to jump in here, Steve, but you know, 324 00:16:53.240 --> 00:16:58.080 I never understood how people could keep saying religions and 325 00:16:58.120 --> 00:16:59.919 I don't and I don't mean to to bash any 326 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:04.640 because it's across the board. In most cases, it's all 327 00:17:04.640 --> 00:17:08.880 about love. Yet everybody comes at people with hate like 328 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:11.599 you can't do that because bar blah blah, And I'm like, 329 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:13.759 wait a minute, Like Steve and I were talking about 330 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:19.000 the Boorley Mansion, a very famous, very haunted at it's 331 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:23.960 no longer there. The rectory, the Boorly Rectory, and of 332 00:17:24.000 --> 00:17:27.920 course in the UK, right outside of Lancashire, I believe anyhow, 333 00:17:28.839 --> 00:17:31.759 the whole point of the haunting there was a monk 334 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:35.279 and an of course legend, and Peter Underwood said his legend. 335 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:39.200 So I'll go ahead and quote Peter you know, uh, 336 00:17:39.720 --> 00:17:42.279 because if you can't believe him, you know what forty 337 00:17:42.359 --> 00:17:45.720 years as the president of the ghost Hunters Society or 338 00:17:45.759 --> 00:17:48.039 whatever in the UK, I mean, just a wonderful man, 339 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:54.079 and said that the legend there was a nun and 340 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:57.400 a monk fell in love and met in secret. They 341 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:02.359 got caught. So the religions, both of the that was 342 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:05.160 in charge of both of them, which is supposed to 343 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:07.680 be based out of love, decided they were going to 344 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:10.880 hang the monk and wall them none up alive, uh, 345 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:15.039 in the rectory itself, and bricker in. And that's supposed 346 00:18:15.039 --> 00:18:17.680 to be your expression of love, you know, why not? Okay, hey, 347 00:18:17.720 --> 00:18:20.839 you crazy kids, maybe you made a bad choice, you know, 348 00:18:20.880 --> 00:18:22.680 and pick this, you know, and you said it was 349 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:24.680 for life, but you know you fell in love. God 350 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:27.319 had another plan so go ahead, We'll let you out 351 00:18:27.359 --> 00:18:29.319 of this and you go be happy. And you know, 352 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:33.359 and what I don't get it that would make more sense. 353 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:36.839 It's not like you know, the mafia or a gang 354 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:39.039 or something where it's blood in, blood out. You know, 355 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:41.839 it's just you should be able to turn and walk 356 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:45.440 away if God had other plans. I think you called 357 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:46.759 it right on the nail there. 358 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:47.720 I agree. 359 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:51.240 I agree also, you know a lot of times too. 360 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:54.319 And again we're not none of us are bashing traditional religion. 361 00:18:54.359 --> 00:18:56.920 I do believe that there is a purpose for it. 362 00:18:56.960 --> 00:19:00.319 I do believe in God, so you know, just to 363 00:19:00.400 --> 00:19:04.839 make that clearer, you know, to anybody that's listening, I believe. 364 00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:05.440 In all of that. 365 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:09.720 The preachers come on, they've been on here several times 366 00:19:09.759 --> 00:19:12.759 and everybody knows that listens how I feel about that. 367 00:19:12.839 --> 00:19:13.720 I believe in God. 368 00:19:14.319 --> 00:19:16.319 Yeah, I do think it gets a bad name. I 369 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:18.960 think it gets a bad name because the representative slices 370 00:19:19.039 --> 00:19:21.079 that are out there are showing me more of hate 371 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:24.680 than love. And I don't understand that. And it's the 372 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:27.319 same with ghosts. It is the same with ghosts. Why 373 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.119 are people yelling at me telling me that ghosts are 374 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:32.279 made out of green jello when I'm trying to tell 375 00:19:32.319 --> 00:19:37.880 them that love is eternal, and love continues on and 376 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:41.440 your essence continues on. You know that energy can't be destroyed, 377 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:43.839 it just gets changed, and you know where does it go? 378 00:19:44.000 --> 00:19:48.240 And hey, here we have about a bazillion gazillion stories 379 00:19:48.279 --> 00:19:49.440 here are they all fake? 380 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:50.480 You know? 381 00:19:51.279 --> 00:19:54.200 And my ghosts aren't made out of green jello? You know. 382 00:19:54.759 --> 00:19:57.119 LEEGI and I were talking about that last night. And 383 00:19:57.240 --> 00:19:59.720 when we've reverenced it before, I from beyond, which is 384 00:19:59.759 --> 00:20:05.160 my UFO, UAP and relative channel. If just one story 385 00:20:05.440 --> 00:20:09.519 is real, just one UFO encounter, just one ghost, just 386 00:20:09.640 --> 00:20:13.680 one bigfoot, just one of any of that stuff is true, 387 00:20:14.200 --> 00:20:16.880 then there you go. That's all it takes for one 388 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:18.640 of them to be true. And I think there's a 389 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:19.480 lot of them that are. 390 00:20:19.759 --> 00:20:22.799 Yep, me too, I agree, I agree. I just wanted 391 00:20:22.839 --> 00:20:27.640 to say that about that because here's the thing. When 392 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:31.839 you're standing up there, you know, maybe given a seminar 393 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:39.440 or lecture whatever, and again anywhere, paranormal convention, whatever, similar, 394 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:44.279 and people are just arguing about this, you know, why 395 00:20:44.279 --> 00:20:48.160 can't we all start with what we're all have in common, 396 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:51.119 what we all have in common is our zest for knowledge, 397 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:57.279 our our want or our need for people pictures to 398 00:20:57.440 --> 00:21:01.480 understand what's going on. You know, everybody's got a different reason. 399 00:21:01.720 --> 00:21:03.839 You know, nobody wants to be lied to or hoodwinked, 400 00:21:03.960 --> 00:21:06.160 or you know, they saw something and they're just trying 401 00:21:06.200 --> 00:21:08.480 to prove that something's out there so they can validate 402 00:21:08.519 --> 00:21:13.400 what they saw. Whatever their reason is. You know, we 403 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:17.480 have something in common. And that's the question, you know, 404 00:21:17.960 --> 00:21:20.039 And now, okay, what did you go gather? What do 405 00:21:20.200 --> 00:21:23.480 you have? What did you see? Really? Okay, you know, 406 00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:25.680 and I think you know, Steve and I over the 407 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:28.480 years have really kind of peeled apart the fact that, 408 00:21:29.519 --> 00:21:32.279 of course just because you're you know, your ghosts showed 409 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:37.119 up in a you know, a tinkerbell ball of glittery 410 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:40.960 light and then decided to manifest. Is whatever it did, 411 00:21:41.119 --> 00:21:44.000 you know, or however it did and acted the way 412 00:21:44.000 --> 00:21:48.599 it did, it doesn't mean that your ghost story that 413 00:21:48.720 --> 00:21:54.559 was completely different didn't happen. It's different types of ghosts, 414 00:21:54.599 --> 00:21:59.079 different people experience in it. It's everything in the room. 415 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:01.759 It's all the end energy combined. It's the energy of 416 00:22:01.799 --> 00:22:04.799 the land, is the energy of the building, the structure 417 00:22:04.799 --> 00:22:07.359 of the place. It's the energy of the person that 418 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:11.079 walked into that energy. It's the energy of the ghost 419 00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:13.359 that was If the ghost was there, the ghost might 420 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:15.440 have followed you. You might have might have said, hey, 421 00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:17.279 where are you going, you know, and followed them in. 422 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:21.920 You know, we just have all these questions still, but 423 00:22:22.079 --> 00:22:24.960 I think we have some answers. I think we have 424 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.200 some answers. I do believe it has to do with 425 00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:30.200 the individual who became the ghost, and I think it 426 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:32.440 has to do with the individual who is seeing the 427 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:35.559 ghost and there's an energy connection there for whatever reason. 428 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:40.519 In some cases, not all cases, you know, in some cases, 429 00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:42.680 you just walk up into a ghost and Yo, there 430 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:47.200 we are, you know, and it doesn't have any big 431 00:22:47.279 --> 00:22:51.000 meaning behind it. The ghost isn't there because it's going 432 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:53.720 through the same thing you're going through. And recognize your energy. 433 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:55.599 You just walked up in a ghost and there you 434 00:22:55.640 --> 00:23:00.720 both were. You know that happens too, Yes, no, well all. 435 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:04.720 No, And that's true. And you know, I think that 436 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:09.519 people are also people. They're born with gifts, they're born 437 00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:14.119 with this innate understanding. However, it's changed with nature versus nurture, 438 00:23:14.559 --> 00:23:17.160 and they're taught to be afraid of it. So a 439 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:20.759 lot of times people they're trying to prove it to 440 00:23:20.839 --> 00:23:24.880 themselves or they're afraid to prove it to themselves because 441 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:28.160 they have this inner knowing. So even if somebody says, oh, 442 00:23:28.200 --> 00:23:30.279 there's no such thing as ghosts, now, they have an 443 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:33.359 inner knowing. They're just creeped out that you're talking about it, 444 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:36.400 and anybody that comes forward. You know, I've noticed a 445 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:41.240 few things even on television recently, where they're constantly trying 446 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:45.640 to debunk it. You know, they're constantly I mean, there's 447 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:50.039 all of these miraculous things that are facts that have occurred, 448 00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:53.160 but they focus on this one little piece that was 449 00:23:53.519 --> 00:23:57.880 a little bit off and that diminishes the whole thing. 450 00:23:58.640 --> 00:24:02.880 And you know, all of us have had experiences and 451 00:24:03.359 --> 00:24:07.240 to me, I have never ever had anybody come and 452 00:24:07.279 --> 00:24:11.759 criticize me or say that what I was saying wasn't true. 453 00:24:11.799 --> 00:24:14.880 Then again, maybe because I don't give a flip. If 454 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:17.119 somebody were to, I'd be like, oh, well, I have 455 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:20.480 a nice day, you know type thing. But we know, 456 00:24:21.680 --> 00:24:25.599 we know what we've seen. There is no doubt, and 457 00:24:25.680 --> 00:24:28.880 we know you know that we've seen it more than once. 458 00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:30.960 And I mean some of us have been in situations 459 00:24:31.079 --> 00:24:33.079 or all of us have been in situations where we 460 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:35.759 have seen it at the same time with other people. 461 00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:40.519 So there's that validation too, you know. And but people, 462 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:43.599 some people just aren't quite ready for it. 463 00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:46.640 Absolutely, absolutely true. If I could jump in here real quick, 464 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:49.240 I think that's a very important point, and I try 465 00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:52.440 to I try to say it on my show, you know, 466 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:55.559 we get together and stuff, because I think it's so important. 467 00:24:56.039 --> 00:24:59.880 You're only going to understand what your consciousness at the 468 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.920 this point in your life is ready to understand. You 469 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:07.960 might be getting held back from certain information or you know, 470 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:09.599 if you ever tried to think of something when you 471 00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:11.480 were a kid and then you know, here you are 472 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:14.039 forty and you're just wandering around the grocery store or whatever, 473 00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:15.359 and all of a sudden it pops into your head 474 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:17.359 and you get it, and you're like, why didn't I 475 00:25:17.400 --> 00:25:20.000 get that earlier? Are you kidding me? I'm just now 476 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:23.319 figuring it out, you know. But it's like that in 477 00:25:23.359 --> 00:25:26.319 the Paranormal, I believe, and Steve was the one who 478 00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:31.680 just having conversations with him and then you know, Steve, 479 00:25:31.720 --> 00:25:33.359 what do you think about that? Was it? Mind? You have? 480 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:35.119 And that's how we wrote the book too. We are 481 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:38.200 all children in the wilderness to day afterlife, because I 482 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:40.599 wanted it that way, because this is how we learn, 483 00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:45.920 you know. I just think that's an amazing thing to 484 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.799 still be able to do after fifty years, forty years, 485 00:25:48.799 --> 00:25:52.359 sixty years, you know where you're like, Wow, I'm working. 486 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:55.880 I'm running around a thing in my head now that 487 00:25:55.960 --> 00:25:58.960 has a lot to do with one of my first 488 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:03.079 well not for not even close, but my first time 489 00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:06.200 I saw my mom. Because you remember, Steve, I was 490 00:26:06.240 --> 00:26:08.039 telling you about where like she would, I'd wake up, 491 00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:09.920 she'd just be in different parts of my room like 492 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.759 just and and she seemed to always be surprised when 493 00:26:12.799 --> 00:26:15.240 she saw me. At the same time, she'd just blink out. 494 00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:19.480 You know, that's a short version, but take my word 495 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:24.720 for it. Now, there's something in Lynn. Don't say a word. Uh. 496 00:26:24.759 --> 00:26:28.839 There's something uh that's been going on with people I 497 00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:32.960 know and some other people I know, and a couple 498 00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.440 of people that I've heard recently. So I figured, what's 499 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:40.000 happening right at this moment is I'm getting I'm getting 500 00:26:40.000 --> 00:26:43.319 something else. My consciousness is starting to understand this, and 501 00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:48.160 it snaps into the ghost stories that you hear about, 502 00:26:49.240 --> 00:26:51.519 let's say, on the Kim Russo level, if you if 503 00:26:51.559 --> 00:26:53.519 you kind of understand what I mean by that, like 504 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:57.000 where she would go a haunting of and she'd go 505 00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.599 back with the celebrity and take them back to the 506 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.440 place it happened, and then she'd go through it. She'd 507 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:04.599 read the house, she go, oh, well, that ghost was 508 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:06.599 here because of this, It's usually winds up being a 509 00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:10.480 totally different reason than the person actually thought, you know, 510 00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:12.440 or maybe they were scared of this ghost and the 511 00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:15.039 ghost was trying to prevent them from falling down a 512 00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.839 broken step or something, you know, just whatever you want 513 00:27:17.880 --> 00:27:21.519 to say, but it was a different reason. And what 514 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:28.240 I'm thinking of now is that kind of if you 515 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:31.799 can imagine what it must be for a ghost, that's 516 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:34.759 just kind of I don't want to say, stuck in 517 00:27:34.839 --> 00:27:38.279 any kind of purgatory or crossing over place or whatever. 518 00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.240 We all know those things exist because it's your consciousness. 519 00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.799 Are you ready to move up? Think the high vibrational things. 520 00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:45.960 You'll move up. We know that from the little girl 521 00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:48.319 who was getting tickled, and every time she laughed she 522 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.160 moved over. She felt like she moved into a different 523 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.960 plane of an existence in her nde and she was 524 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.519 just a three year old girl, and the only way 525 00:27:56.559 --> 00:27:58.839 she could describe it was they would make her laugh, 526 00:27:58.839 --> 00:28:01.839 and when she laughed, she felt like her body would 527 00:28:01.839 --> 00:28:04.160 shift her it would shoot in another direction. And when 528 00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:07.960 she got through whatever clouds or whatever it was that 529 00:28:08.079 --> 00:28:11.039 she described, everything would be brighter and the music would 530 00:28:11.079 --> 00:28:14.400 be louder, and things would be just gorgeous. And it 531 00:28:14.480 --> 00:28:16.880 was all because she was giggling. And I thought, Okay, 532 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:20.119 she's giggling. That's raising her vibration. She's shooting up a vibe. 533 00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:25.720 You know. So what if, like my mom, she passes, 534 00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:29.599 she passes in a hospital in Virginia. I'm in way 535 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.519 far away. I'm in New Jersey, right, I went to 536 00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:35.400 stay with family when she was in the hospital. Sick 537 00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:40.240 at the end makes sense, Okay, So I wake up, 538 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:44.799 I start seeing her. I'm thinking I'm scaring her as 539 00:28:44.839 --> 00:28:48.480 a kid. As I grow up and go through adulthood 540 00:28:48.480 --> 00:28:51.759 and things like that, start studying this more and understanding more, 541 00:28:51.799 --> 00:28:54.839 I'm starting to think, Wait a minute, what if while 542 00:28:54.839 --> 00:28:57.440 I'm sleeping, I love and miss her so much my 543 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:01.960 energy is connecting into hers and that's drawing her Yeah, 544 00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:03.880 or you're you know how you think of a loved 545 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:08.599 one and they're there kind of thing. What if it's 546 00:29:08.640 --> 00:29:12.119 she's doing it? What if she passes in such a 547 00:29:12.160 --> 00:29:15.440 state pretty much, you know, alone, other than the people 548 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:18.240 that were there at the hospital unfortunately are horrible. You know, 549 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.400 this is back in seventy six, just the way things went, 550 00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:27.440 you know, and uh, she's worried about me so much 551 00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:31.039 so it tethers her to the earth plane because we 552 00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:37.920 know this is also true. Worry, fear, regret, pain, suffering, grief, 553 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:42.039 all those things can tether. And she's connecting in with 554 00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:45.880 my energy when it's loose and I'm asleep. She's in 555 00:29:46.000 --> 00:29:49.039 a state of kind of sleep and lingering because she's 556 00:29:49.039 --> 00:29:52.039 stuck here, and somehow our energies are matching up just 557 00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:55.000 enough for us to briefly see each other for a 558 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.160 moment in time. That that kind of love, that kind 559 00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:03.599 of deep mother child next. I think that's possible because 560 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:06.519 I think it happens with the living as well, and 561 00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:11.039 for a brief moment they show up. Doesn't make any 562 00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:12.400 sense to anybody, it. 563 00:30:13.960 --> 00:30:15.960 Does make total sense. And I and I agree with 564 00:30:16.000 --> 00:30:19.960 you because I've kind of spoken with people about things 565 00:30:20.079 --> 00:30:22.240 kind of like that. I've kind of had some experiences 566 00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:26.000 that way myself, so yeah, that makes perfect sense. I 567 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.880 mean I know that even myself, with a recent issue 568 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:36.200 at my sister's house, I mistakenly thought that this elemental 569 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:40.880 in the house was holding spirits prisoner, and it turned 570 00:30:40.880 --> 00:30:43.680 out that his reason for being there and holding them 571 00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:47.480 was to protect them. So it is easy to misunderstand, 572 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:50.079 you know, somebody being there, and plus you know so 573 00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:52.039 many people it's said that they've been taught to be 574 00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:55.799 afraid of spirits even if they're if they're familiar. I 575 00:30:55.839 --> 00:30:59.079 know the episode that I went through with a religious 576 00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:01.680 choice to my mother, made after we had been Presbyterian 577 00:31:01.759 --> 00:31:04.960 for very, very long, and I mean they scared me 578 00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.720 so bad that even when I started to see things, 579 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:09.240 I would run out of the room just as fast 580 00:31:09.279 --> 00:31:12.359 as anybody else because of what I was taught. Even 581 00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.359 if they were beautiful things like my grandmother or my 582 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:19.079 aunt or somebody that would pop into visit, and you know, 583 00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:21.559 and then I would feel them close, you know too, 584 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:24.799 and like like you said, they would be connected because 585 00:31:24.839 --> 00:31:28.400 they loved me and not just because you know, I 586 00:31:28.559 --> 00:31:31.880 was calling on them or you know, thinking of them 587 00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:34.200 or whatever. But that they were also you know, keyed 588 00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:34.880 in that way. 589 00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:40.279 So I agree absolutely because the thought can be so powerful. 590 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:45.680 Think about that, Steve, you know, an unwilling like just 591 00:31:45.720 --> 00:31:48.640 to love just a you know, because we we can 592 00:31:48.680 --> 00:31:50.799 all think of something right now that we love that much, 593 00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:57.359 you know that, and you're asleep therein semi. I guess 594 00:31:57.359 --> 00:32:00.200 you could say almost like a sleep, like a know 595 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:04.119 with twilight sleep. I guess I don't know making who knows, 596 00:32:04.480 --> 00:32:08.160 but there's just that connection. It's not a will, not 597 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:13.839 really a conscious will on either human being. It's just 598 00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:20.200 a underlying current of that eternal love that in sleep 599 00:32:21.039 --> 00:32:24.480 or in a let go conscious state. I'm sure people 600 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.680 could do this in meditation as well, connects like that 601 00:32:28.359 --> 00:32:31.480 and just surprises each other. I just think that's an 602 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:34.720 amazing way to think about it, because listen, in life, 603 00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:37.279 you could do it astro projecting, you can do it 604 00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:39.640 through meditation, you can do it through other things elucid 605 00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.640 dreaming and things like that. And then you get all 606 00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:47.039 the accounts too, of those goodbye show ups, you guys 607 00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:49.920 know what I mean, Like somebody's passed and four people 608 00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.960 in the family got to see him before he you know, 609 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.119 he just stopped for a minute just to smile and 610 00:32:56.160 --> 00:32:59.039 move on. And you find out that right after the 611 00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:01.559 person passed and when visited four people that night. 612 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:05.440 You know, yes, yeah, what a beautiful way that you 613 00:33:05.480 --> 00:33:08.440 put it to Cisco. You laid it out in such 614 00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:10.440 a way that it was very beautiful. 615 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:14.519 Thank you. I just think that that is a beautiful 616 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:18.319 thing though. It is so you could I think that 617 00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:23.880 somebody who just was had just so much love for 618 00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.519 a person too, they could do that. I'm wondering how 619 00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:30.680 many stories we've missed, you know, or throw out and 620 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.160 put in another category because it was something like that, 621 00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:36.680 Like say a soldier and you know, in a in 622 00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.640 in a foreign land by themselves and their the fox 623 00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:41.839 hold their tent and they're they're asleep and they're just 624 00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:46.680 thinking a home and somebody in that home, a child, 625 00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:51.400 a wife, a husband, whatever, just for a moment sees 626 00:33:51.480 --> 00:33:56.920 that person standing there, you know, just briefly and almost 627 00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:59.319 would you'd almost think it was a ghost, you know, 628 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:01.240 or how how many times had it happened? We don't 629 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:05.559 even see it? Wow, that's just crazy. It's just it's 630 00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:08.719 just amazing to me to think that why not, why 631 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:10.519 wouldn't it Steve, doesn't it make sense? 632 00:34:11.079 --> 00:34:15.320 Yeah, yeah, I agree with you too, you know, and 633 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:18.159 on that same line as well, it's like even with 634 00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:21.440 like the thought and the connectedness in that way, that's 635 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:25.239 that's beyond the physical body. It's like one day you 636 00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:27.119 might be sitting and just out of the blue, you 637 00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.800 start thinking about somebody that you haven't thought about in years, 638 00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:34.159 and all of a sudden, the next day you get 639 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:36.039 a phone call or you run into it at the 640 00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:39.239 grocery store. You know. I mean, this is this kind 641 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:41.840 of thing that happens, and it's kind of along the 642 00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:43.760 same line, and it's all energetic. 643 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:47.000 Yeah, it's like the energy is coming, you know what 644 00:34:47.039 --> 00:34:49.199 I mean, it's like their energy is coming. Same thing 645 00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:52.039 like phone calls. Like you said, somebodys do a knock 646 00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.519 on the door. I do it all the time with 647 00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:57.079 phone calls, especially with you know, loved ones and stuff 648 00:34:57.119 --> 00:34:59.159 like that. And I surely didn't meet anything where I 649 00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:02.519 said line don't say it, but I didn't she her, 650 00:35:02.559 --> 00:35:05.920 And I know somebody that might be experiencing something like that, 651 00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:09.400 because when I read it, I get innocence on both sides, 652 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.800 and I think that that's what do you understand? What 653 00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:16.880 I'm saying, yes, I get innocence on both sides where 654 00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:19.920 both are surprised by it. And when I when I 655 00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.480 got that, that's what made me think of my mom. 656 00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:26.960 And for years, I mean, this happened when I was 657 00:35:27.039 --> 00:35:31.000 like eleven twelve, you know, and for years I thought, 658 00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:33.199 oh my gosh, I'm doing it wrong. I'm scaring her. 659 00:35:33.239 --> 00:35:35.519 And you know, I told her i'd be I didn't 660 00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:37.480 want to see ghosts and be scared, and she's I'm 661 00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:39.679 scaring her away and she won't stay and talk to her. 662 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:41.800 I mean, when you're a kid, you beat yourself up 663 00:35:42.079 --> 00:35:46.480 inside and out sideways. You know, I'm doing something wrong here, 664 00:35:46.960 --> 00:35:49.159 you know? Why? Why can't I get my mom to 665 00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:50.960 stick around just so I can see if she's okay? 666 00:35:51.519 --> 00:35:55.800 You know? But and then just totally misunderstanding. I think 667 00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:59.119 she was just as surprised. She didn't, you know, because 668 00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:02.320 we always assume that ghosts have the whole book too, 669 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:05.239 like they have the whole here's all the rules. This 670 00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:07.320 is what you kenn of can't do, This is what 671 00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:08.960 you ken of can't tell them, this is what you 672 00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:11.480 kend of can't say. And I'm sure that there's somebody 673 00:36:11.519 --> 00:36:13.480 over there and the send a being or whatever going. 674 00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:15.599 We don't want to We don't want to give it all, 675 00:36:15.639 --> 00:36:16.880 you know. We don't want to give it all the 676 00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:19.000 way to him because I'd be cheating. They have to 677 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:21.519 find it out on their own, you know, kind of 678 00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.239 like adults with a three year old, you know, just 679 00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:26.079 keep trying to catch them be where they hit the ground. 680 00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:28.679 But once they hit the h fall on their butts 681 00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:30.920 a couple of times, they learn to hang on or 682 00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:33.960 walk careful or you know what I mean. It's almost 683 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.519 like that's how I look at it with ascended beings 684 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:40.440 and whoever's running this show, you know, and whoever has 685 00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:43.559 the rule books, you know, because we assume that the 686 00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.800 ghost can do that. And I keep going back to 687 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:49.280 that movie Ghost when Patrick Swaye's character was just trying 688 00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.559 to move the damn penny or kick a can and 689 00:36:51.599 --> 00:36:55.800 he could. He was trying with human boundaries, I think, 690 00:36:56.639 --> 00:37:01.239 you know, and and letting those human earth flea connections 691 00:37:01.400 --> 00:37:04.159 kind of go like that, those boundaries, those color you know, 692 00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:06.880 color in the lines, and it's all the other goes 693 00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.760 to go. Dude, there's no lines anymore, you know, and 694 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:12.239 you just have to think it. So if it's if 695 00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.039 it's simple like that, a process of thought and thinking 696 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:18.599 it imagine the things that we can do that they've 697 00:37:18.639 --> 00:37:21.400 told us we can't anymore. Absolutely. 698 00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:23.639 I mean there's a whole hemisphere of the brain that 699 00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:27.119 they don't even we're not even using. And I believe 700 00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:32.199 that that's the spiritual side that connects us with you know, 701 00:37:32.599 --> 00:37:35.199 and our gifts are spiritual gifts that come through that 702 00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:38.920 we're all born with. So yeah, I mean, you know, 703 00:37:39.719 --> 00:37:42.559 I'm on the same page with you what you're talking about, that. 704 00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:43.159 Is for sure. 705 00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:45.519 Yeah, and I'm right there too. 706 00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:50.119 Yeah, I just think that's an amazing you know. To me, 707 00:37:50.199 --> 00:37:54.199 it's almost like an epiphany because that one thing. And 708 00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:56.480 I always smile when I think about my mom because 709 00:37:57.199 --> 00:37:59.480 what she has taught me. I thought she taught me 710 00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:01.480 everything she had to teach me in the first twelve 711 00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:03.599 years before I lost her, you know, and I was 712 00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.760 that's just you know, where my mindset was. But now, 713 00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.199 you know, on the other side of this, I'm going, 714 00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:12.480 my gosh, she taught me so much after she passed 715 00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:16.800 as well, Yes, especially in this and didn't probably didn't 716 00:38:16.800 --> 00:38:19.320 even realize what she was doing it first, and that's 717 00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.159 what got me to get it because I'm looking at 718 00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.320 this and I'm going, you know, how would she know 719 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.239 to do that? And I thought, well, maybe she's just 720 00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:28.280 thinking of me, and I'm just thinking of her, and 721 00:38:28.320 --> 00:38:33.639 we just boom somehow we caught that flash moment, you know, 722 00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:37.760 like Steve, you and I talk about that where time 723 00:38:38.840 --> 00:38:40.880 like the pages in a book. Do you remember that 724 00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:45.440 that analogy. You've got a book and the pages, and 725 00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:47.760 the pages just get a little wet, drop some water 726 00:38:47.840 --> 00:38:50.239 on it, right, and you drop some water in a 727 00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:52.679 pretty soon you'll start to see the words from the 728 00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.320 other side bleed over under that page a little bit, 729 00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.400 and those pages coming through. And I think time is 730 00:38:58.519 --> 00:39:02.840 like that in ways, like sometimes they come into ours, 731 00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:07.360 sometimes we go into theirs. You know, they could be 732 00:39:07.440 --> 00:39:08.400 something that simple. 733 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:13.039 It's totally laynear. It's an abstract exactly. 734 00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:13.960 I love that. 735 00:39:14.239 --> 00:39:17.519 Yeah, yeah, I love that kind of also like the 736 00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:21.400 veils between dimensions that you kind of write go and 737 00:39:21.400 --> 00:39:25.079 as when my mom passed away, also my father had 738 00:39:25.119 --> 00:39:27.440 a near death experience, and he talked about the fact 739 00:39:27.440 --> 00:39:29.400 that they're able to be in six places at one 740 00:39:29.440 --> 00:39:33.400 time simultaneously, which I found to be interesting because they 741 00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:36.639 could be sitting with your brother at the morning table, 742 00:39:36.679 --> 00:39:38.599 and while they're in the car writing with you to work. 743 00:39:39.159 --> 00:39:43.079 But speaking of the sensory thing, they do crossover. They 744 00:39:43.079 --> 00:39:45.559 do have all of their senses. And people argue the 745 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.480 smell thing, and it's like, look, they don't have an 746 00:39:48.480 --> 00:39:50.920 old factory nerve, so it's not like walking up and 747 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.599 sniffing a flower. But it is a memory recall. They 748 00:39:54.760 --> 00:39:59.760 because they think and they travel. My mother pops in 749 00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:01.760 a ca asually and I asked her about the eating 750 00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:04.920 thing with potato salad. Doesn't she miss it? And of 751 00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:06.480 course she came in and she said, well, we do 752 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:09.679 everything by thought. If we want to be with someone, 753 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:13.039 we think of them and we're instantly right there with them. 754 00:40:13.079 --> 00:40:16.679 And if we want to go somewhere, we think of 755 00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.480 it and we instantly are there. I mean, there's not 756 00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:23.519 even a point of traveling. You're just in a split second, 757 00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:27.840 you're there. And when you want to you know, taste 758 00:40:27.880 --> 00:40:31.639 of food or something that you enjoyed in some lifetime 759 00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:34.480 and some galaxy or on Earth, your most recent lifetime, 760 00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.119 you just think of it and the sensation comes to 761 00:40:37.119 --> 00:40:40.760 you as if you're eating it instantaneously, So you know 762 00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.800 that That's also very interesting too, with the fact that 763 00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:48.679 they can be so many places and they do feel 764 00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:52.400 they keep all of their senses, whether they passed over 765 00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:54.360 or not. They have all of their senses, but when 766 00:40:54.360 --> 00:41:00.159 they pass over, they have additional senses that they didn't 767 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.880 while they were earth bound, and some of the negative 768 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:04.880 and a lot of the negative stuff has shed and 769 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:09.119 left behind, so they're not they're not held back by 770 00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:09.880 that anymore. 771 00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:11.480 That's ing stuff. 772 00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:17.079 It's good, right, I think that's the best thing. Uh. Again, 773 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:22.360 I'll use my mom when she was showing up, like 774 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:25.079 I said, where it was, I call them popins, you know, 775 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:28.639 because again they always ended with me going and her going, 776 00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:31.519 you know, that kind of look, you know, and that 777 00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:34.599 kind of like why am I scaring her? You know, 778 00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:37.800 It's like when I finally got my stuff together, you know, 779 00:41:37.840 --> 00:41:39.880 and you're just not expecting it and it's never gonna 780 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:41.199 happen again, and then all of a sudden, bam, there 781 00:41:41.239 --> 00:41:43.000 it is again. You're never ready for it, you know, 782 00:41:43.960 --> 00:41:47.880 not when it's like that. Yeah, But then after there 783 00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:50.559 was a time, you know, I went through a lot 784 00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.280 of stuff and a lot of other things happened to me, 785 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:54.440 and I'm pretty sure my spirit guid's had a hold 786 00:41:54.440 --> 00:41:56.840 of me, because that's you know, when stuff was happening 787 00:41:56.880 --> 00:42:00.000 to me, like but I got stuck in the undertoe 788 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:01.800 it out on the beach, you know, and I was 789 00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:04.440 out of my body and the time almost walked in 790 00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:06.360 front of the bus and somebody just grabbed me by 791 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.960 the back of the both shoulders, back of the top 792 00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:12.519 back of my shoulders and lifted me off the ground 793 00:42:12.559 --> 00:42:16.199 and put me on my butt on the sidewalk as 794 00:42:16.239 --> 00:42:19.400 the bus went boom, and I turned around to say 795 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:22.920 thank you. There's nobody there. So different things like that 796 00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.639 were happening to be I believed that my spirit guys 797 00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:28.840 were really trying to get me through boot camp or something, 798 00:42:28.880 --> 00:42:31.159 you know what I mean. I was a teenager. You know, 799 00:42:31.320 --> 00:42:35.280 It's like I was always at the crossroads. You know 800 00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:38.960 which or do I take right? You know which right 801 00:42:39.039 --> 00:42:41.400 I go? So, you know, I think there was a 802 00:42:41.440 --> 00:42:43.320 lot of that going on a sheet. And it was 803 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:47.440 a while. And then right before the night before I 804 00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:50.039 went into the Army, right before I left for boot camp, 805 00:42:50.320 --> 00:42:52.960 that's when she showed up again, but totally different, totally 806 00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:53.559 different way. 807 00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:56.119 I love your version of that. If you would tell 808 00:42:56.159 --> 00:42:57.239 that whole story there. 809 00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:00.760 Sure right, Well, so you know, again, I'm not nervous. 810 00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:04.800 I'm digging this. At the time, I was so gun ho. 811 00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:07.519 I was like John Wayne Junior, I really was. I 812 00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:11.119 was just so into army. I was fit. I was 813 00:43:11.559 --> 00:43:14.119 you know, I was running, I was running with leg weights. 814 00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:17.199 I was just gunno nuts, and I wanted to so 815 00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:19.000 over cheat. I knew I was going to have to 816 00:43:19.000 --> 00:43:24.559 shoot so far, you know, to land halfway. Because again 817 00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:26.760 I was like in the first one of the very 818 00:43:26.760 --> 00:43:31.920 first all female boot camps at Fort Dix, this is back. 819 00:43:31.960 --> 00:43:33.880 You know, we're breaking ceilings out and glass all over 820 00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:35.400 the place. They didn't know what to do with us. 821 00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:37.519 So I knew I had to train hard. So I 822 00:43:37.599 --> 00:43:40.800 was excited. It wasn't nervous or anxiety or anything like that. 823 00:43:41.199 --> 00:43:43.559 I'm stayed at my sister's house. I'm on her couch 824 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:50.119 and the door. Now, she's got three daughters, my nieces, 825 00:43:50.159 --> 00:43:52.239 and they were all teenagers at the time, and they 826 00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.239 had a curfew. And it's a little late, it's about 827 00:43:55.719 --> 00:43:59.440 ten thirty somewhere around in there, and in the room 828 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:01.920 I'm in there is a back door. My sister is 829 00:44:01.960 --> 00:44:07.559 extremely historically nautical colonial go figure, but it works for her. 830 00:44:08.039 --> 00:44:11.159 And on this back door, it's a glass window, a 831 00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:14.639 wooden door with a glass window half and on that 832 00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:18.519 glass window instead of a curtain is a fishing net 833 00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.679 filled with these shells. And see what do you call it? 834 00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:27.480 A starfish? You know, nice, really pretty, very well done, 835 00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:31.880 and these big beautiful glass they are called Japanese floating 836 00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:36.000 glass balls or something nautical. So you know, so when 837 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:39.239 you open this door, it has a distinctive sound when 838 00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:42.039 it opens and when it closes, and everybody in that 839 00:44:42.119 --> 00:44:45.559 house knows that sound because of the way that those 840 00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:48.239 glass balls and that net and shells hits the glass 841 00:44:48.280 --> 00:44:52.599 on the door. So I hear it open, and I'm thinking, 842 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:55.880 oh man, somebody's coming in late curfew, you know. So 843 00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:58.000 I started like ribbon. I didn't know which needs it 844 00:44:58.079 --> 00:44:59.800 was because I didn't know who was out of the house. 845 00:45:00.440 --> 00:45:04.079 And I said something. I heard the door close, and 846 00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:06.199 nobody said anything back, and I wanted to catch who 847 00:45:06.239 --> 00:45:08.039 it was. So I sat up from where I was 848 00:45:08.079 --> 00:45:09.760 on the couch so I could look over the couch 849 00:45:09.840 --> 00:45:15.079 to see and nobody's there. Nobody had a chance to 850 00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:17.760 get up the stairs and out of the room, and 851 00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:21.920 I noticed by the door, which I heard distinctly open 852 00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:26.400 and close, this little sparkle of light and it's almost 853 00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:32.400 like just a little pinch of glitter in mid air, moving, 854 00:45:33.199 --> 00:45:36.920 you know, kind of like going together, going to part. 855 00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:40.599 And then it's getting a little bit bigger, and it's 856 00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:45.280 kind of moving through the living room about halfway and 857 00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.559 it's like right in front of me. I could almost 858 00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:49.440 reach out and touch it. If I had lunged at it, 859 00:45:49.480 --> 00:45:51.800 I could have touched it, but I didn't move, and 860 00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:54.480 I'm watching this thing move. And then it gets brighter 861 00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:57.280 and it gets lighter, and it gets bigger and more 862 00:45:57.320 --> 00:46:01.199 glittery and kind of misty, and it's it's going so 863 00:46:01.480 --> 00:46:04.199 fast yet so slow. I don't know how to describe that. 864 00:46:04.920 --> 00:46:09.480 And it just eventually starts making a larger In the 865 00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:14.519 midst of this lighting glittery light, was a figure. And 866 00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.880 then all of a sudden it just became clear and 867 00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:21.599 it was my mom. And now she's no longer in 868 00:46:21.639 --> 00:46:24.719 the hospital gown and had the white thing, you know, 869 00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:29.559 the white hospital band on her wrist. She wasn't hunched over, 870 00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:34.280 I didn't feel her pain. I felt nothing but warmth 871 00:46:34.639 --> 00:46:38.079 and love and light. And it just washed over me 872 00:46:38.280 --> 00:46:41.920 like somebody just opened like a pizza oven. And I'm 873 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.159 just standing there probably like a goofball with my face 874 00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:49.199 hanging out, and I just I remember just mouthing Mom 875 00:46:50.079 --> 00:46:53.760 because she looked so good. She looked like she was going, 876 00:46:54.599 --> 00:46:57.800 you know, out out to dinner on a Saturday night, 877 00:46:57.920 --> 00:47:01.239 you know, at the Essex and Sussex Jersey Shore. I mean, 878 00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.760 she looked good, her hair was done, she had, you know, 879 00:47:05.079 --> 00:47:09.000 like it just this casual, you know, dressy outfit. You know, 880 00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:12.039 she looked great, this big old smile on her face, 881 00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:15.360 rosy cheeks or makeup's done. She's looking good. Mom is 882 00:47:15.440 --> 00:47:18.960 looking good and she's not hunched over. She's stand up straight. 883 00:47:19.159 --> 00:47:21.119 And I, like I said, I did not feel the pain. 884 00:47:21.159 --> 00:47:23.480 And I can tell you before when she showed up, 885 00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:28.880 I promise you people, it was almost like feeling the 886 00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.800 pain energy when she showed up, I think is what 887 00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:34.480 woke me up. I don't know how to express that, 888 00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:38.280 but I think I felt her pain and her suffering 889 00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:42.920 and her depression before I ever saw her. If that 890 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.679 makes sense. Now I'm getting this blast of and purticure 891 00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:48.239 of hey girl, how you doing? You know, it is amazing. 892 00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.639 So there she is and I hear her talking to me, 893 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.000 and I'm looking at her and she's just smiling and 894 00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:57.239 I'm not even blinking twice that she's not moving her mouth. 895 00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:00.880 And I could totally hear Steve. I could smell her Lynn, 896 00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:05.679 you know what I mean. I could smell her familiar, 897 00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.559 just her shampoo. I can smell, you know, the way 898 00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:12.000 she smelled when she came inside on a cold day 899 00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.239 and gave me a hug. I could smell it. And 900 00:48:14.599 --> 00:48:19.880 through telepathically she told me just a bunch of stuff, 901 00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:24.320 the short end being just short things, but very profound. 902 00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:26.119 You know, you're doing great and very proud of you, 903 00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:28.000 Like am I doing the right thing? I can remember 904 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:29.719 at one point I busted out, you know, might do 905 00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:31.559 it because I was going in the army. Am I 906 00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:33.360 doing the right thing? Is this the right thing? She said, 907 00:48:33.400 --> 00:48:36.000 I can't tell you that, you know. And then at 908 00:48:36.039 --> 00:48:39.719 the end she said, you won't see me for a while, 909 00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:42.719 but I'll be around and I love you very much. 910 00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:47.239 And as soon as she said that, she didn't twinkle out. 911 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:50.440 She just kind of almost like she like you would 912 00:48:50.480 --> 00:48:54.000 see in Charles Dickens where they kind of start floating 913 00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:57.960 backwards kind of thing and then just gone twinkled out, 914 00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:00.519 and darn if I didn't hear that dag door open 915 00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:04.440 and shut again. Never it never moved, it never moved, 916 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:05.800 but I heard it. 917 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:09.360 What a great Yeah, I'd love to hear you tell 918 00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:10.559 that now. 919 00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:13.079 I've never heard that story, Sisco. I'm so thrilled that 920 00:49:13.119 --> 00:49:15.679 you share it. That that's that is amazing, and. 921 00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:17.880 It's it's a really nice one. But you know, you 922 00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:20.480 kind of stand there and you're just like, what what 923 00:49:20.760 --> 00:49:23.800 just happened? And you know, I have to say that 924 00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:27.400 for every story that anybody's ever heard where they say, well, 925 00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:29.719 it happened and I just went to sleep, you know, 926 00:49:30.159 --> 00:49:33.159 And I can never understand that when you see it, 927 00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.519 but you know it happens because I just I was 928 00:49:35.519 --> 00:49:37.800 so relaxed. It's almost like it drained you a little bit, 929 00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:40.880 like they're pulling energy from you too. So maybe that's it, 930 00:49:41.039 --> 00:49:44.440 Steve that, maybe that's why people just fall asleep because 931 00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:45.800 I think it drained your energy to. 932 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.840 Because I think it just wipes you out and they're 933 00:49:47.880 --> 00:49:50.119 just like, Okay, I've done all I can do for now, 934 00:49:50.239 --> 00:49:52.800 I got to recharge my batteries, you know, the same 935 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:56.599 with electronics and things. How the batteries are depleted in 936 00:49:56.679 --> 00:49:59.760 the presence of something like that, I think our psychic batteries, 937 00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:02.280 if you will, getting plated that easily. 938 00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:04.440 Yes, I agree. 939 00:50:05.079 --> 00:50:08.199 And there's an affirmation story right there, my very own 940 00:50:08.320 --> 00:50:13.039 experience of how if they if they're stay connected to 941 00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.480 the earth, if they're earth, if they're bound to the 942 00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:19.679 Earth by their own feelings and their own vibrations are 943 00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:25.000 low vibrational stuff connected for whatever. You know, the chains 944 00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:28.920 that you know morally form through life, you know however 945 00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.599 you want to say it, but just being lonely and 946 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:35.199 hurt and confused and you know, can can hold you 947 00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:37.639 a little bit. And like I said, the best knowledge 948 00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:39.840 that we could ever give out on one of these shows, 949 00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:45.800 Think Positive, Think Positive Things. It's it's almost like clapping 950 00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:48.440 to get Tinkerbell to fly, believe in you know what 951 00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:53.239 I mean. It's just it's so intent, it's so it's look, 952 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:55.119 you can you can feel it when you do it 953 00:50:55.159 --> 00:50:58.320 now and you're alive. You can feel the difference between 954 00:50:58.360 --> 00:51:00.639 being said. Turning on the radio and one of your 955 00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:02.760 favorite songs come on and by the time you get 956 00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:05.039 about ten to twelve beats and you're starting to feel it. 957 00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:08.400 Your foot starts tapping. You feel better, and you're singing 958 00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:10.320 in the car at the red light and you just 959 00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:12.639 don't even care. You're dancing in the kitchen, singing into 960 00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:16.000 your wooden spoon, whatever's going on. You've just raised your vibration. 961 00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:18.599 So if we could just get ghosts to do that, 962 00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:23.119 there they go, you know, there they go, floating off 963 00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:25.960 into the light. It's wonderful. And I don't know why 964 00:51:25.960 --> 00:51:27.800 we make its so difficult, and I don't know why 965 00:51:27.800 --> 00:51:30.239 we get involved in all this. You know, I think 966 00:51:30.280 --> 00:51:33.239 it's arrogant to tell ghosts that they have to leave 967 00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:35.320 and they have to cross over. No, no, it's not. 968 00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.760 It's not arrogant. It's you're not telling them they have 969 00:51:38.840 --> 00:51:42.039 to you're telling them like a bartender. Look, honey, you 970 00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:44.000 don't have to go home, but you can't stay here 971 00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:47.840 because the living have a choice too. So if you're 972 00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:50.400 not going to be cool, you gotta go. You don't 973 00:51:50.480 --> 00:51:52.199 have to go home. You want to go sort it, 974 00:51:52.199 --> 00:51:53.679 you want to go talk about it, you want to 975 00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:56.559 talk about crossing over. What's your beef? You know you 976 00:51:56.559 --> 00:51:59.519 can do that. But the main thing is, I think 977 00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:03.760 it's a responsibility of any human being to help another 978 00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:06.920 human being and say, look, you don't have to do 979 00:52:07.000 --> 00:52:09.119 any of this. But here's the gist. It took me 980 00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.920 sixty years to get to this. If you want the 981 00:52:11.960 --> 00:52:15.960 information here it is. If not, go haunt somebody's dark cellar. 982 00:52:16.440 --> 00:52:19.360 But don't say I didn't try. That's what it is 983 00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:23.880 for me. You know, free will, free will, You have it. 984 00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:27.320 I have it, thank god, you know. But so do they. 985 00:52:27.760 --> 00:52:30.639 I just think it's sad that people treat them like 986 00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:35.000 pets and say, oh, well they're good. No, honey, they're 987 00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:38.119 not supposed to be here, you know, if they're working 988 00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:41.880 through some part of their journey. Okay, fine, but that's 989 00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:46.119 look they have to be if you cannot leave them 990 00:52:46.159 --> 00:52:52.000 in that stuck, dingy, depressed, sad, angry, tied up and 991 00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:56.119 not stay. That's arrogant to think that you don't have 992 00:52:56.159 --> 00:52:58.239 the time to stop for a minute. Those are the 993 00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.760 same people who walk past the scripple this person on 994 00:53:00.800 --> 00:53:06.119 the corner because it's it's it's uh, it's it's hard, 995 00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:09.079 you know what I mean. It's not pleasant. Well it's 996 00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:12.320 not pleasant going down in a deep basement either, and 997 00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:17.480 taking a ship ton of chances because you know, you 998 00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:19.320 played with a weed board and thought you were going 999 00:53:19.360 --> 00:53:23.159 to solve stuff and did whatever else, went on and 1000 00:53:23.320 --> 00:53:26.920 did some ritual on the roof and planning your husband's 1001 00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.199 underwear in the front yard to keep it from cheating 1002 00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:32.519 on you. Whatever you did, you open some stuff and 1003 00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:34.039 now we got to come and we gotta close it. 1004 00:53:34.079 --> 00:53:35.840 We got to sort things out. Don't tell me how 1005 00:53:35.880 --> 00:53:37.880 to do it, because if you knew how to do it, 1006 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:38.920 you wouldn't be calling me. 1007 00:53:40.119 --> 00:53:40.320 Right. 1008 00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:44.119 Just people get crazy, Steve, you know what's true. 1009 00:53:46.880 --> 00:53:49.599 Yeah, absolutely, that's so true. 1010 00:53:51.239 --> 00:53:54.199 We'll get somebody and they're on and I'm like, honey, 1011 00:53:54.199 --> 00:53:57.800 if you need help, please dm me, email me. I 1012 00:53:57.800 --> 00:53:59.559 don't need to hear the whole Please don't tell me 1013 00:53:59.599 --> 00:54:02.320 the whole thing, because it's sitting right behind you gain 1014 00:54:02.360 --> 00:54:06.440 an energy listening to you talking about it, and then 1015 00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.360 it's going to go attack your kids because it knows 1016 00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:12.800 that's how it gets to you. And I'm trying to 1017 00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:17.039 stop you from doing that, and you're doubling down. You know. 1018 00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:20.000 It's like they just gotta say it, you know, And 1019 00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:22.000 I'm like, look, do you want help, We're gonna start here. 1020 00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:25.800 Stop talking about it. Do these things, do these things 1021 00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:28.800 in this you know what I mean? And I'll get 1022 00:54:28.840 --> 00:54:31.480 you somebody. I'll get your pro. I'll get your pro 1023 00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:34.480 that's been vetted, you know, twenty thirty years through me, 1024 00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:37.320 known them this long, you know. But you're gonna have 1025 00:54:37.320 --> 00:54:39.960 to do what they say too, because if you're gonna 1026 00:54:39.960 --> 00:54:42.519 do it, you're you've done it your way and now 1027 00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:45.639 you're a mess. You know. I don't know. Does that 1028 00:54:45.719 --> 00:54:47.039 sound arrogant or adamant? 1029 00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:49.880 No, I think it's adamant. 1030 00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:52.440 Yeah, yeah, I think this sounds adamant too. And the 1031 00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:55.920 thing is also is sometimes people, after they've worked themselves 1032 00:54:56.000 --> 00:54:59.360 into that sort of a situation, then they want help 1033 00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:01.079 to get out of But the thing is is do 1034 00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.119 they really want the help to get out of it? 1035 00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:05.559 Because there are certain work that they also have to 1036 00:55:05.679 --> 00:55:08.920 apply themselves to do in order to meet that goal. 1037 00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:13.199 And a lot of times, because of the dysfunctional coping 1038 00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:17.559 skills that they've created in order to accommodate whatever they have, 1039 00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:20.719 you know, the spirit in their house or whatever, or 1040 00:55:20.760 --> 00:55:24.360 the depression or the attachments or whatever it is, they're 1041 00:55:24.400 --> 00:55:30.320 so used to having that maladaption that they are not 1042 00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:34.000 comfortable letting it go once you once they're free of 1043 00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:36.079 that or once they have a better understanding, they want 1044 00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:38.559 to dip back down into some of the negative stuff 1045 00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.159 and you know, kind of get the ball rolling. 1046 00:55:41.639 --> 00:55:45.559 But even I call that paranormal munch housings. Don't we 1047 00:55:45.639 --> 00:55:51.679 see there? You go, Yeah, that's exactly what it is, 1048 00:55:52.079 --> 00:55:55.239 and it's it's and not only that, but look, I've 1049 00:55:55.239 --> 00:56:00.760 known cases where I mean at great, I mean again, 1050 00:56:02.480 --> 00:56:05.320 you know, people have to realize what mediums or people 1051 00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:08.400 that go through or you know, people that chaos magic. 1052 00:56:08.920 --> 00:56:11.199 Anybody that's going into help I don't care if it's 1053 00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:14.239 a press of pastor aback, it doesn't matter. Anybody that 1054 00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:17.360 goes in to help somebody else in this situation is 1055 00:56:17.400 --> 00:56:21.519 putting themselves at not only at risk or you know whatever. 1056 00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:24.519 There's a fight going on here, and you may not 1057 00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:27.559 see the blows, you may not see the wounds, you 1058 00:56:27.639 --> 00:56:30.159 may not see the torment that that person goes through. 1059 00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:32.199 I know one that goes home almost wounds up in 1060 00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:37.880 the hospital. Helping people that are extremely flippant, it's very critical. 1061 00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:40.840 They think they can do it better. They're not going 1062 00:56:40.920 --> 00:56:42.400 to you know, they're not going to do what this 1063 00:56:42.440 --> 00:56:46.760 person says you know, stop and think about this, folks. 1064 00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:51.079 We've kind of lost our We've got a little dehumanized here, 1065 00:56:51.639 --> 00:56:53.960 you know. And that goes for ghosts too, because just 1066 00:56:54.000 --> 00:56:57.480 like Consultzer said, you know, I'm not afraid of ghosts. 1067 00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:59.920 Are just people who need to help. Okay, So they're 1068 00:57:00.119 --> 00:57:03.280 people in need of help. It could be you could 1069 00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:06.159 be a relative, it could be an ancestor, you know, 1070 00:57:06.639 --> 00:57:09.519 at any time. So if you think of it's not 1071 00:57:09.599 --> 00:57:13.719 a game, you know, it's more. Look, if we're gonna 1072 00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.920 go in here, we're gonna try to communicate, find out 1073 00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:19.239 why this person is here. We went, I'll tell a 1074 00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:21.039 quick story that kind of tells a little bit. It 1075 00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:24.000 puts it all in perspective. If that's cool. Going down 1076 00:57:24.039 --> 00:57:28.840 to the cellar in Gettysburg and both listen, anybody who's 1077 00:57:28.840 --> 00:57:30.960 listened to the radio show tonight, both of them just went, 1078 00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:37.199 could we stop you? No? So we're going down to 1079 00:57:37.199 --> 00:57:40.960 this damn cellar, right, and this is good. People have 1080 00:57:41.079 --> 00:57:43.360 this house. They just acquired this house. It happens to 1081 00:57:43.360 --> 00:57:45.480 be on the edge of the battlefield and write smack 1082 00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:48.079 dab in the middle of a lot of skirmishes. So 1083 00:57:48.119 --> 00:57:51.840 there are quite a few ghosts camp out in the 1084 00:57:51.880 --> 00:57:55.199 cellar downstairs. Why don't ask me why ghosts like dark 1085 00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:57.840 cellars and addicts and quiet corners and things like that. 1086 00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:01.239 Time is different to them, things look different. I couldn't 1087 00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:04.159 begin to tell you it's different with each one, but 1088 00:58:04.239 --> 00:58:08.719 it seems to be a thing. And they tend to 1089 00:58:08.760 --> 00:58:12.280 gather with other spirits. And then you've got other spirits 1090 00:58:12.280 --> 00:58:14.079 that are there in the same place. They don't even 1091 00:58:14.119 --> 00:58:17.199 know the other ones exist, so go figure. So we 1092 00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:20.039 go down in the cellar, and in there was a 1093 00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:23.880 mixture of this. There was a mom. She had two, 1094 00:58:23.920 --> 00:58:26.760 possibly three kids. I'm not one hundred percent sure on 1095 00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:30.000 that with her, and I'm not even sure they were 1096 00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:32.360 all hers. I think she had gathered one, and I 1097 00:58:32.400 --> 00:58:34.679 think that's why I was getting that off Coump, But 1098 00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:38.280 that's just a thought. Then there was another one that 1099 00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:42.239 kind of a very more male, stronger energy that kind 1100 00:58:42.280 --> 00:58:45.639 of was in charge of the weaker ones, not in 1101 00:58:45.679 --> 00:58:48.320 a bad way, but in a protective way, like who 1102 00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:50.320 are you and what are you doing here? Kind of thing. 1103 00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:57.760 And then there were several Civil War era soldiers there. 1104 00:58:58.559 --> 00:59:02.039 Never bothered ask on what side, they didn't say, They 1105 00:59:02.079 --> 00:59:07.519 responded to both music. We played neutral music, so we 1106 00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:10.760 didn't ask because you know, we just don't do that. 1107 00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:14.519 I don't anyway. I tell them either way, you're my brother. 1108 00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:18.280 So there was another one that kind of felt off. 1109 00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:22.639 Now within this we had some that were willing to 1110 00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:24.480 listen to us. We had to go in. I went 1111 00:59:24.519 --> 00:59:28.880 in with the other ex soldiers. The soldiers responded well 1112 00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:33.199 to everything we were doing. At the very end, we 1113 00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:35.360 did our thing where we kind of connect them into 1114 00:59:35.400 --> 00:59:37.760 the love, energy and everything else. And it was lovely 1115 00:59:37.880 --> 00:59:45.239 because the ghost, the mom that was there, you could 1116 00:59:45.280 --> 00:59:48.360 almost hear her talking to the kids, you know. When 1117 00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:49.679 we were saying do you see the light? Do you 1118 00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:52.159 see the light? Everything really lightened up. You could feel 1119 00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:54.400 it happening in the room. Ask anybody that was there. 1120 00:59:54.599 --> 00:59:57.800 There was like eleven living humans down there and at 1121 00:59:57.920 --> 01:00:04.360 least twelve to fourteen ghosts, maybe more so. Anyway, they 1122 01:00:04.400 --> 01:00:07.159 all kind of bunched up in these little sectioned off groups. 1123 01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:08.719 It was kind of wild the way you felt it. 1124 01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:11.239 But you could almost hear her talking to the kids. 1125 01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:13.159 And at the very end, I said, do you see 1126 01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:15.199 that light, honey? Do you feel it? Do you feel it? 1127 01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:17.800 You know? And she and I said, there it is. 1128 01:00:17.800 --> 01:00:20.760 The love's right in there, Go get it. And she 1129 01:00:21.079 --> 01:00:24.760 stopped for a minute and you could feel something changed 1130 01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:26.760 in her voice. You could hear it come over, that 1131 01:00:27.559 --> 01:00:32.320 ovulous thing I think it was, and she said that's simple, 1132 01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:36.679 and I'm like, yeah, baby, that's simple, Go get it. 1133 01:00:37.320 --> 01:00:40.039 And it was so cool. Pretty much cleared out the room. 1134 01:00:40.599 --> 01:00:43.960 There was one there that we needed to go get 1135 01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:47.599 somebody else, and that's okay. In the paranormal, folks, you 1136 01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:49.880 got to learn when to step back to because there 1137 01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:52.599 might be somebody else there that these ghosts want to 1138 01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:55.039 connect with. And it's got nothing to do with you. 1139 01:00:55.320 --> 01:00:58.360 It's got nothing to do with the ability or promena, 1140 01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:02.000 you know, ego. All that shit's got to go because 1141 01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:04.719 this is all about energy and connection. So at that 1142 01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:07.400 point in time, I stepped back, and my friend, who 1143 01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:10.400 was in the Navy, he stepped back, and we were 1144 01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:14.039 both getting that this guy was totally different time period, 1145 01:01:14.079 --> 01:01:18.000 totally different change. He was there for somebody else and 1146 01:01:18.039 --> 01:01:20.840 had a wholly different agenda, not a bad one, but 1147 01:01:20.840 --> 01:01:24.519 more of a protective We got finished business to finish here, 1148 01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:28.960 and we had to go get somebody else that could 1149 01:01:28.960 --> 01:01:34.760 come and speak with this entity and see what it 1150 01:01:34.920 --> 01:01:37.039 was he wanted and how we could help him. And 1151 01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:38.960 then we had to go on the other end to 1152 01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.440 the person he wanted to connect with and help on 1153 01:01:41.519 --> 01:01:44.000 that end with the living. So there was a place 1154 01:01:44.039 --> 01:01:46.880 for everybody to write tool for the job, you know, 1155 01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:50.960 and a lot of good paranormal investigators they know that, 1156 01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:54.519 and the groups they've become fantastic over the past twenty 1157 01:01:54.559 --> 01:01:57.159 something years. They really have, you know, I know, so 1158 01:01:57.239 --> 01:01:59.920 many good ones that are really deep into it, like this, 1159 01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:03.960 get it, you know, So that one we just sorted 1160 01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:07.519 it and like I said earlier, sometimes you just got 1161 01:02:07.559 --> 01:02:09.840 to give them the information. These things are possible. You 1162 01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:12.440 can do these things. You can you can work this out, 1163 01:02:12.559 --> 01:02:15.519 you can you know whatever, and we're willing to help 1164 01:02:15.559 --> 01:02:18.320 you do that, you know. And it took another two 1165 01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:21.000 years and then that ghost finally crossed because he was 1166 01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.440 done with the living person that they had to deal with. 1167 01:02:23.599 --> 01:02:25.760 He was there to help that living person as well. 1168 01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:28.639 So there's so much to this. You can't just go 1169 01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:32.840 in there with a big stick of sage and you know, 1170 01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:36.199 whatever else you want to toss at it and just 1171 01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:38.119 you know, get on at you know, do you know 1172 01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:40.280 whatever if you could sit down and talk to them, 1173 01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:44.559 that's fantastic in that situation. But please, please, please don't 1174 01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:47.320 treat them like pets, or treat them mean, or go 1175 01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:50.360 in there provoking things, because you'll meet some bad ones too, 1176 01:02:50.440 --> 01:02:54.719 and we all have those stories. So I hope that 1177 01:02:54.800 --> 01:02:57.079 gives you an idea. That's one spot with a lot 1178 01:02:57.079 --> 01:02:59.440 of different situations. Every goes different. 1179 01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:04.679 Yeah, yeah, very well used to illustrate that several points there. 1180 01:03:05.320 --> 01:03:08.039 Very Well said I agree absolutely. 1181 01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:11.239 So like I said, I don't think it has to 1182 01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:14.079 do with you know, I tend to come off really 1183 01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:18.039 you know. Look, I'm too old to screw around, you know, 1184 01:03:18.719 --> 01:03:22.440 and I just look, I will give everybody a chance 1185 01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:25.159 to give me because there's always something to learn. There's 1186 01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:28.320 always something to learn. But please don't tell me that, 1187 01:03:28.440 --> 01:03:30.960 you know, ghost are made out of green yellow and 1188 01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:34.960 you know there's nothing on the other side. It's just 1189 01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:38.239 and you know what, in this world, here's another question, 1190 01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:41.000 And I'd love to hear both think in this world, 1191 01:03:41.039 --> 01:03:43.400 maybe that's how their world is going to be. Maybe 1192 01:03:43.519 --> 01:03:47.119 they're manifesting that, do you see what I mean? Maybe 1193 01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:50.280 that's what they're manifesting. Maybe for them there will be nothing. 1194 01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:51.400 What do you think. 1195 01:03:51.719 --> 01:03:53.960 Yeah, I never thought about it that way, but yeah, 1196 01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:57.519 it's a possibility. I mean, I don't rule anything out 1197 01:03:57.599 --> 01:03:58.440 at this juncture. 1198 01:03:59.079 --> 01:04:01.400 No, you know, I've never thought about that either. I mean, 1199 01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:05.320 most of with my the ability that I have with 1200 01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:08.039 the second side in dealing with people that are crossing over, 1201 01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:12.599 I've never seen a situation like that. But I'm sure 1202 01:04:12.639 --> 01:04:15.119 you know, there are certain religions that believe that you 1203 01:04:15.199 --> 01:04:16.840 don't go to either place, that you're going to be 1204 01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:20.280 reawakened at a time when there's armageddon comes and there's 1205 01:04:20.320 --> 01:04:22.760 going to be one hundred and forty four thousand people 1206 01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:25.039 that are going to inhabit the earth and things like that, 1207 01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:28.239 So maybe their reality will be. 1208 01:04:28.280 --> 01:04:31.440 That maybe more than one thing happens, Maybe more than 1209 01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:34.440 one thing happens. Yep, that's right. I don't know. 1210 01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:36.639 Yeah, I don't know either. None of us are going 1211 01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:37.760 to know until we get Yeah. 1212 01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:40.119 We don't know. I was I couldn't sleep last night. 1213 01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:43.039 I was hitting something and I needed something I hadn't 1214 01:04:43.039 --> 01:04:45.519 heard before that we kept catching my interest where I 1215 01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:48.280 can just because I have to click in the part 1216 01:04:48.280 --> 01:04:52.480 of my brain that does deductive reasoning or or my 1217 01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:55.840 mind just plays on tomorrow and today, and you know, 1218 01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:58.559 like you know, your mind racist. So I do that 1219 01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:00.840 kind of stuff to keep me occupied, so I'll go 1220 01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:04.159 to sleep. It's weird, so I put on I can't 1221 01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:07.920 remember what it was. It was just a real good, 1222 01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:12.360 mellow sounding story. And it was a guy with a 1223 01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.239 British accent. He was He was talking about the things 1224 01:05:15.239 --> 01:05:17.599 that happened Skidwalker Ranch. And it was a two parter, 1225 01:05:18.320 --> 01:05:20.199 so it's quite a few things. And it was the 1226 01:05:20.239 --> 01:05:22.559 early stuff from the very beginning, went all the way back, 1227 01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:25.079 not the show that's on now or anything like that, 1228 01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:27.760 way back to the beginning when you had what was 1229 01:05:27.800 --> 01:05:30.480 his name, nass or whatever the I like him too, 1230 01:05:30.719 --> 01:05:35.840 from Coast to coast what's his name, Art Bell or no, 1231 01:05:35.960 --> 01:05:38.719 not Art Bell, Artfell liked him. 1232 01:05:39.159 --> 01:05:41.159 I know George George Dory is on there now. 1233 01:05:41.039 --> 01:05:43.440 But right he's the other one, the one out of 1234 01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:45.280 l A. I can't remember. 1235 01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:47.280 Oh oh yeah, I can't think of his name. 1236 01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:50.119 Back John b well Not not John b Wells. I 1237 01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:52.079 actually got to speak to John a couple of times, 1238 01:05:52.159 --> 01:05:58.239 but no, yeah, but he did. He deserves to be 1239 01:05:58.320 --> 01:06:00.440 mentioned because he did so much early work on the 1240 01:06:00.519 --> 01:06:03.480 skinwalker ranch is who I mean. You know, people are 1241 01:06:03.480 --> 01:06:05.559 probably screaming at the thing. Tell me his name. I'll 1242 01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:09.800 think of it in a minute. But anyway, they went back, Man, 1243 01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:13.639 this stuff that happened there, you know, this thing that 1244 01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:16.280 comes crawling out of the portal and just runs up 1245 01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:19.199 the side of the mountain. But the way they told 1246 01:06:19.239 --> 01:06:22.320 this story was amazing because they brought in all of 1247 01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:26.199 the aspects around it, you know, all of the details 1248 01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:30.039 of the smell like a musk. They would smell this 1249 01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:34.199 musk first, you know, you know, these different kind of things, 1250 01:06:34.239 --> 01:06:36.719 and I'm like, man, this is just I love it 1251 01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:38.440 when they go back to the old stuff because I 1252 01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:43.199 believe something happened there. But this I don't know even 1253 01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:45.719 what to say about the show. You know, I haven't 1254 01:06:45.760 --> 01:06:49.239 seen the last season or whatever, but I heard enough 1255 01:06:49.239 --> 01:06:51.360 from the first and saw enough from the first to go, yeah, 1256 01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.960 I'm not watching this because it felt like o G 1257 01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:56.480 Island to me. It's like, you took a great story 1258 01:06:57.280 --> 01:07:01.360 and for eleven years y'all been Diginga's damn hall and 1259 01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:03.840 you know it's it's just the next thing. It's the 1260 01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:05.920 next thing. It's like that stake and rock that they 1261 01:07:05.960 --> 01:07:09.559 were carrying around Steve that rock from rod Oak with 1262 01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:15.880 the riding guards. Looks like al righting is right in 1263 01:07:15.920 --> 01:07:18.519 that rock, isn't it. Yeah, well, there's some pieces of 1264 01:07:18.599 --> 01:07:22.639 stand down here in this land is only found on 1265 01:07:22.719 --> 01:07:27.440 the shores. The Oh, there's a kitten. 1266 01:07:28.039 --> 01:07:32.119 I'm sorry. I I thought I had anything. Baby, I've got, 1267 01:07:33.400 --> 01:07:37.159 I've got. I've got a herd of six five week 1268 01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:42.800 old barrel kittens that were by the mama. Oh no, 1269 01:07:43.320 --> 01:07:47.119 So they're here with me learning how to potty train 1270 01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:51.840 and I'm feeding them. I found a mother to adopt 1271 01:07:51.880 --> 01:07:54.400 them that had kind of only had one kitten left, 1272 01:07:54.440 --> 01:07:58.840 so she is kind of tubbing them. But I found 1273 01:07:58.840 --> 01:08:01.159 a place that's an okill facility. I'm trying to give 1274 01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:03.360 them away, but if I can't, they're going to be 1275 01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:06.119 going to a place that adopts them out and we'll 1276 01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:07.280 make sure that they get good home. 1277 01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:07.920 That's how I. 1278 01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:11.159 Got my baby. That's how I got my babies. Oh god, 1279 01:08:11.400 --> 01:08:12.199 that's wonderful. 1280 01:08:13.599 --> 01:08:15.360 That's how I got my dog too. And I mean 1281 01:08:15.440 --> 01:08:19.239 we've got cats too, but we can't have ten animals, 1282 01:08:19.319 --> 01:08:23.560 so you know, it's just but they're adorable. There's so 1283 01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:25.479 many cute things I'm enjoying them so much. 1284 01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:29.720 Oh gosh, it's wonderful. Oh kittens, Oh my god, that's 1285 01:08:29.760 --> 01:08:31.880 just that I get my glory with them. I love 1286 01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:34.640 nature so much and just my whole life, you know, 1287 01:08:34.760 --> 01:08:37.960 with with with animals has been great and I highly recommend. 1288 01:08:38.039 --> 01:08:39.920 I think those little souls have been put here just 1289 01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:43.199 to show us what unconditional love is. And they're so 1290 01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:50.319 they're they're so supernatural animals. Yeah, there's supernat Yeah, I'm sorry. 1291 01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:52.880 I thought I keep turning my microphone off because they 1292 01:08:53.039 --> 01:08:58.039 had been sleeping and now they and they are all 1293 01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:03.279 over the place. We've got a freeway going through the 1294 01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:05.239 litter box here because like four of them will crawl 1295 01:09:05.319 --> 01:09:08.640 in it at once. As the bathroom. Well, they're so tiny, 1296 01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:11.199 but so it's kind of funny because they're just learning. 1297 01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:13.680 So it's like monkey, It's like it's like. 1298 01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:18.640 Honey out there, I've raised I've raised more uh more babies. 1299 01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:24.079 I just can't even tell you. But yeah, it's like anyway, 1300 01:09:24.359 --> 01:09:27.880 it's skin walk a ranch. There's a lot of stuff 1301 01:09:27.920 --> 01:09:30.279 going on there, and I believe there's places like that, 1302 01:09:30.560 --> 01:09:33.920 you know, I mean, gosh, all these I'm here lately 1303 01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:37.640 out of nowhere, Steve out of nowhere. I'm not looking 1304 01:09:37.720 --> 01:09:40.479 for it. It's in like the natural news. 1305 01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:41.239 You know. 1306 01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:44.800 Well, I'm sure my algorithm or something has something to 1307 01:09:44.840 --> 01:09:47.760 do with the news they show me. You know, believe 1308 01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:49.680 they show me plenty. I don't want to see. 1309 01:09:49.680 --> 01:09:50.439 So I don't know if. 1310 01:09:50.359 --> 01:09:54.159 I believe that or not. But I'm here in portals. 1311 01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:56.079 People are talking about portals, open it up in the 1312 01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:57.000 pine barrens. 1313 01:09:57.199 --> 01:10:00.439 I've got you were messing that to me earlier. Can 1314 01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:04.439 you delve into that a little different now? 1315 01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:07.319 I don't want to delve into no portals, into pine barons. 1316 01:10:07.359 --> 01:10:09.119 I don't want to go in there and not come back. 1317 01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:13.880 I paler but creepy. I live right, I'm in the 1318 01:10:13.920 --> 01:10:16.880 pine barrens. I'm not in the thicket of it, let's 1319 01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:19.560 put it that way. But the pine barrens are so 1320 01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:25.279 there's something about them. They're just it's creepy, you know, 1321 01:10:25.319 --> 01:10:27.439 when you start getting into the thickness of it, the 1322 01:10:27.439 --> 01:10:30.039 pine trees, and then you've got these scrub trees that 1323 01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:32.600 are real low and it's like a thicket. It's almost 1324 01:10:32.640 --> 01:10:35.880 like walking through Oh gosh, I don't know if you 1325 01:10:36.279 --> 01:10:39.479 know what creep and juniper is it's that groundcover that's 1326 01:10:39.520 --> 01:10:44.159 really sticky. It's like an evergreen tree, but it's those 1327 01:10:44.239 --> 01:10:47.439 briars and just all this other stuff. But there's a 1328 01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:51.439 whole creepy feeling about this. And it's all like I 1329 01:10:51.479 --> 01:10:55.159 want to say, lower Mid Jersey down all on the 1330 01:10:55.199 --> 01:10:57.199 east coast, so it goes all the way down to 1331 01:10:57.239 --> 01:10:59.680 the South Jersey. And this is, of course where they 1332 01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:04.479 filmed thirteen what do you call it Friday at thirteen 1333 01:11:05.319 --> 01:11:09.920 Crank Camp, Crystal Lake and that all that's here, yeah, yeah, 1334 01:11:09.479 --> 01:11:12.760 well not the camp, but you know camp similar to it, 1335 01:11:13.359 --> 01:11:17.399 and it's just creepy. And I've been here in the 1336 01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:19.399 past couple of weeks. All of a sudden, I see 1337 01:11:19.439 --> 01:11:22.399 these little news articles and they're weird the way they 1338 01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:23.920 pop up, because it's you know, like when you open 1339 01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:26.439 your computer you got Bing or you got Microsoft or whatever, 1340 01:11:26.600 --> 01:11:29.600 they'll show you news and it's all these ads and 1341 01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:31.720 things when you first open it up. Of course most 1342 01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:34.119 of them have it right, so it's in one of that, 1343 01:11:34.159 --> 01:11:35.640 and I'm like, what do you mean? Portals and the 1344 01:11:35.680 --> 01:11:38.479 pine barrens, And then all of a sudden, something else 1345 01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:41.159 on another device somewhere else, or I'm over hearing a 1346 01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:44.399 conversation about the Jersey Devil. All of these things about 1347 01:11:44.439 --> 01:11:46.880 the Pine barrens the past three weeks have been finding 1348 01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:49.800 my ears or my eyes and I'm not looking for it. 1349 01:11:50.239 --> 01:11:53.840 And I just think that's so weird. And I've not 1350 01:11:53.960 --> 01:11:56.479 heard anybody talk about I've heard people talk about portals 1351 01:11:56.479 --> 01:12:00.479 in the forest, but nothing specific to Pine barrens. Now me. 1352 01:12:00.680 --> 01:12:03.880 I'm not a big Jersey Devil person. It was one 1353 01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:07.079 of those. When I first heard it, I was like, no, 1354 01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:09.319 I'm not, you know, it was just one of those 1355 01:12:09.800 --> 01:12:13.520 and I rarely do that, you know. I mean I 1356 01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:15.359 always put it on the shelf and always be like 1357 01:12:15.399 --> 01:12:18.840 a possibility. But let's admit it, summer on. You know, 1358 01:12:18.920 --> 01:12:21.520 that dusty, dark shelf that you probably never going to read. 1359 01:12:21.840 --> 01:12:24.000 You know, it's like we're He's like, okay, I'm not 1360 01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:27.840 going to quite mind. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, just 1361 01:12:27.880 --> 01:12:29.600 it's there just in case you aon need to knock 1362 01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:33.199 the dust off it, because that's happened. That's right. But 1363 01:12:33.960 --> 01:12:37.520 thirteen kids and the last one was cursed, And you know, 1364 01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:41.119 I think there's probably some truth somewhere in there. There's 1365 01:12:41.119 --> 01:12:44.039 a nugget of truth. There was probably a lady that lived, 1366 01:12:44.640 --> 01:12:47.720 you know, in a really whirl cabin way in the 1367 01:12:47.760 --> 01:12:51.039 back and had a bunch of kids, you know, something 1368 01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:55.479 along those lines. Because most of these stories and stuff like, 1369 01:12:56.359 --> 01:12:58.720 there's one famous one, I won't say the name. There's 1370 01:12:58.840 --> 01:13:01.000 mostly had something to do with it. Witch. No, there 1371 01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:03.600 was no witch. There was no witch. It wasn't hunged, 1372 01:13:03.800 --> 01:13:06.359 wasn't you know? She was probably the lady that made 1373 01:13:06.359 --> 01:13:09.520 some merble tea. You know, she actually lived. There was 1374 01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:12.039 a person that had that name. But none of the 1375 01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:14.600 other stuff is true. Everything else is built off of it. 1376 01:13:15.000 --> 01:13:18.880 And then you've got these wonderful stories with so much 1377 01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:22.039 fact and so many witnesses and so much that you 1378 01:13:22.079 --> 01:13:25.039 can prove, and people don't believe them. I don't understand it. 1379 01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:29.640 But to me, that's that's the one with Jersey Devil. 1380 01:13:29.800 --> 01:13:32.680 If there's something out there, what the hell will be 1381 01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:37.399 living that long that looks like that that supposedly flies, 1382 01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:41.560 you know, Is it possible? Sure, it's possible. Do I 1383 01:13:41.680 --> 01:13:46.039 think it was a cursed child that the mom said, 1384 01:13:46.159 --> 01:13:48.640 you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna give this one to 1385 01:13:48.720 --> 01:13:51.039 the devil, and it shot out of her and went 1386 01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:53.279 up the fireplace and lived out in the pine barrens 1387 01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:55.840 by itself a baby, I don't care if it's a 1388 01:13:55.880 --> 01:13:58.479 faro baby with fangs and hooks and all kinds of 1389 01:13:58.840 --> 01:14:01.640 it's not going to survive the pine barons without some help. 1390 01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:05.439 You know. It had to have been supernatural crazy before 1391 01:14:05.439 --> 01:14:07.720 it got here. It just doesn't make any sense to me, 1392 01:14:08.399 --> 01:14:10.640 you know, big, But I got no problem with dog men, 1393 01:14:10.760 --> 01:14:13.199 no problem. You know. If you told me the government 1394 01:14:13.239 --> 01:14:16.840 made flying babies that flew up fireplace, I probably believe that. 1395 01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:20.680 But I just don't think that. I don't know. It 1396 01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:23.159 sounds a little crazy. That's saying something. 1397 01:14:26.079 --> 01:14:28.640 I don't know what you guys in the pine barons 1398 01:14:28.680 --> 01:14:31.039 and what's happening and are people walking through them or 1399 01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:32.079 people disappearing? 1400 01:14:32.239 --> 01:14:35.199 I don't know. I couldn't get any I couldn't get 1401 01:14:35.239 --> 01:14:38.520 any It's like it's just like these little there's not 1402 01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:39.399 even really. 1403 01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:42.560 With the traffic report. 1404 01:14:44.600 --> 01:14:46.800 People talking about it and then oh. 1405 01:14:46.760 --> 01:14:48.880 Yeah, there's portals opening in the pine barns, So be 1406 01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:52.239 careful on your way to work, everybody. 1407 01:14:52.640 --> 01:14:54.560 I think we lost Cisco. She'll be back. 1408 01:14:55.279 --> 01:14:59.439 Sorry. I was just preparing a kitty formula to do. 1409 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:01.840 Get ready to do my nightly feeding here. 1410 01:15:02.359 --> 01:15:05.159 So but anyway, yeah, just so, must have hit the 1411 01:15:05.159 --> 01:15:08.239 wrong button and she'll be back with us in a moment. 1412 01:15:08.800 --> 01:15:11.880 Good good, I mean, this has been such an interesting conversation. 1413 01:15:12.000 --> 01:15:16.760 I love hearing her experiences and yours too, and so 1414 01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:18.279 I'm just happy to be here. 1415 01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:20.720 Yeah, so I'm so good time. 1416 01:15:21.479 --> 01:15:23.720 Well, we're waiting on her. What's coming up new for you, 1417 01:15:23.800 --> 01:15:25.640 ste besides besides a baby? 1418 01:15:25.640 --> 01:15:26.079 Boy? 1419 01:15:26.039 --> 01:15:30.159 Yeah, the baby's occupying everything right now. I've always got 1420 01:15:30.520 --> 01:15:34.079 new videos coming on missing persons and mysteries and on tails, 1421 01:15:34.119 --> 01:15:38.359 I'm told. And then this show is weekly, and I've 1422 01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:40.439 got another book I'm working on. This will be my 1423 01:15:40.520 --> 01:15:43.920 twenty first one. And there she is. She's back. 1424 01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:50.920 Okay, there she is. He's wrong. Fell through a portal. 1425 01:15:51.600 --> 01:15:54.479 There she is. I touched my phone and I went 1426 01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:57.800 to a portal. Here I am again. Yeah, I don't 1427 01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:00.720 know the stories. They really don't have a lot of 1428 01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:06.439 information in them. And there was a couple places I 1429 01:16:06.479 --> 01:16:08.560 can look and dig up and get some more I 1430 01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:11.479 need to find out. But I started I dig in, 1431 01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:14.159 and what happened was I started finding missing people in 1432 01:16:14.199 --> 01:16:17.119 the pine barrens. And that's when I found that story 1433 01:16:17.159 --> 01:16:19.479 and those two people that went missing on their RV 1434 01:16:19.640 --> 01:16:23.159 and they were found. I wish I could remember their 1435 01:16:23.239 --> 01:16:25.279 names and stuff like that, Steve, but I just found 1436 01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:27.079 it this morning. I think I sent it over to you. 1437 01:16:29.119 --> 01:16:32.640 It's a very strange story, apparently, very well like couple, 1438 01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:35.479 nothing strange. They weren't, you know, cooking meth in the 1439 01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:39.359 parlor or nothing, and apparently and they weren't doing any 1440 01:16:39.399 --> 01:16:43.680 other kind of weird chicanery shady stuff. And they were 1441 01:16:43.800 --> 01:16:47.439 just a nice talk over the fence neighbors and lived 1442 01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:51.840 out there part of the Pine Barons anyway, enough to 1443 01:16:51.920 --> 01:16:55.000 have RVs to go out into. And that was one 1444 01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:56.279 of the things they did when it go out for 1445 01:16:56.359 --> 01:16:59.119 a ride around. I don't know what they were going 1446 01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:01.800 to see, but they did it often. And they went 1447 01:17:01.840 --> 01:17:03.960 out this one night and that was it. They weren't 1448 01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:07.319 seen again, and I think that they I think I 1449 01:17:07.439 --> 01:17:11.560 recall in the story that they had not told anybody 1450 01:17:11.720 --> 01:17:15.239 exactly where they were going. So it was about four 1451 01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:17.960 days after they didn't come back where people just started, 1452 01:17:18.000 --> 01:17:18.640 you know, wonder what. 1453 01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:21.319 Happens in a lot of these disappearances. People don't leave 1454 01:17:21.319 --> 01:17:26.000 their itinerary. Anybody just suddenly go somewhere. That's that's literally 1455 01:17:26.079 --> 01:17:28.119 like looking for Nila and a haysack if you don't 1456 01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:30.319 even know where to start looking for somebody. 1457 01:17:30.840 --> 01:17:33.920 Goodness, I know, I mean it just and people think 1458 01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:36.640 you're being mean, especially if there's kid, if they're kids, 1459 01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:39.359 Oh mom, you know you don't just slap a GPS 1460 01:17:39.399 --> 01:17:41.439 on the son of a gun on, you know, just 1461 01:17:41.479 --> 01:17:46.560 to be Look, do you know how many stories missing kids, toddlers, 1462 01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:54.359 old people, Alzheimer's, you know, mountain climbers, hikers, blunkers, just 1463 01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:57.920 people going off missing all the time. It doesn't matter rich, 1464 01:17:58.000 --> 01:18:01.720 poor otherwise, especially. 1465 01:18:01.359 --> 01:18:04.359 In this dan age, especially in this dan age, you 1466 01:18:04.920 --> 01:18:06.880 need to have a buddy system where you at least 1467 01:18:06.920 --> 01:18:09.560 reach out to somebody and let them know where you're 1468 01:18:09.600 --> 01:18:10.720 going and who you're with. 1469 01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:14.520 Right, Well, this was they had done it all the time. 1470 01:18:14.560 --> 01:18:18.600 Supposedly they're out there in their own yard. I believe 1471 01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:21.520 they said that they were found. Was it two hundred 1472 01:18:21.600 --> 01:18:22.520 yards from their. 1473 01:18:22.359 --> 01:18:24.119 Home something like that. 1474 01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:25.960 It was fairly close and it was an area of 1475 01:18:26.000 --> 01:18:27.479 previously searched that happens. 1476 01:18:28.800 --> 01:18:31.000 Yes, that's why I had to send it to you. 1477 01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:33.359 I'm like, here we go again, and now it's happening 1478 01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:35.159 out here. I'm sure people have. 1479 01:18:35.119 --> 01:18:38.439 Been going belong to people and then bring them back. 1480 01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:41.640 It's like taunting those search and rescue people like, ha ha, 1481 01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:43.279 here they are where you've already looked. 1482 01:18:43.720 --> 01:18:48.319 Yeah, yeah, and they've gotten so with I'm going to 1483 01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:51.000 be honest people, I'm telling you, we've gotten so used 1484 01:18:51.039 --> 01:18:53.720 to this. We've been conditioned to believe that if it's happening, 1485 01:18:53.800 --> 01:18:55.399 we're going to hear it on the news. If it's happened, 1486 01:18:55.399 --> 01:18:57.279 and we're going to hear it, read it the paper, 1487 01:18:57.600 --> 01:19:01.079 if it's you know whatever, and that doesn't necessarily happen, 1488 01:19:01.159 --> 01:19:06.159 and I'll give you an instant movie that will tell 1489 01:19:06.159 --> 01:19:10.960 you exactly how it goes down Jaws. Because anything that 1490 01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:15.560 happens in a coastal town and tourism depends on it, 1491 01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:17.640 you're not gonna hear about it. I don't care how 1492 01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:21.560 many people get robbed or pickpocketed on the boardwalk or 1493 01:19:22.399 --> 01:19:27.640 something happens or shark, you know whatever. I've seen all 1494 01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:30.119 kinds of stuff go down and have anything on the 1495 01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:30.760 news about it. 1496 01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:37.359 So or feral people or UFOs or a cult or 1497 01:19:37.359 --> 01:19:39.560 whatever taking people out of the National Park. 1498 01:19:39.760 --> 01:19:40.800 You're not going to hear about it. 1499 01:19:40.800 --> 01:19:41.680 You're not gonna hear about it. 1500 01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:47.319 Pigeon Forge, all those places would be a ghost out Kevin. 1501 01:19:47.079 --> 01:19:50.399 Lake, I mean, yeah, so many, so many. 1502 01:19:51.560 --> 01:19:54.039 That's true, That is so true. I mean, there's there's 1503 01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:56.479 so much that's not being shared. But it's because they 1504 01:19:56.520 --> 01:19:59.640 want to keep people going and the herd mentality and 1505 01:19:59.680 --> 01:20:03.359 want to it's all manipulation and control. You know what, 1506 01:20:03.479 --> 01:20:06.319 if what epps were e supposed to be truly what 1507 01:20:06.399 --> 01:20:09.279 they are, that they're not just what IPPs, then they 1508 01:20:09.319 --> 01:20:11.760 wouldn't have the control that they are. 1509 01:20:11.640 --> 01:20:15.439 Trying to keep yep. And granted some people know it 1510 01:20:15.479 --> 01:20:17.600 and do it anyway. Like I mean, if you don't 1511 01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:19.399 know sharks are in the water, I don't know what 1512 01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:21.560 tell you. But they're not. 1513 01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:25.600 Telling where the guy took his kayak and went up 1514 01:20:25.640 --> 01:20:29.479 that creek where the stuff that happened that inspired the 1515 01:20:29.520 --> 01:20:30.840 book Jaws happened. 1516 01:20:31.079 --> 01:20:31.960 I sent your video. 1517 01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:35.119 Yeah you did, yeah that nineteen sixteen. Yeah it happened 1518 01:20:35.159 --> 01:20:38.399 right out here in front of us, right here, and. 1519 01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:40.079 That was creepy man. 1520 01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:45.119 Yeah, tunnel bridge things and stuff and thinking, you know, yeah, 1521 01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:47.319 if there was a shark that swam up in there 1522 01:20:47.359 --> 01:20:49.720 at some point what would keep on from swimming up there? 1523 01:20:49.720 --> 01:20:49.960 Again? 1524 01:20:50.039 --> 01:20:53.199 Do they have a net or no sharks allowed sign? 1525 01:20:53.199 --> 01:20:55.600 How did they prevent that from happening these days? 1526 01:20:55.640 --> 01:20:57.520 It's exactly what they did. As soon as they put 1527 01:20:57.600 --> 01:21:02.399 up the no sharks allowed signs, everything stopped. They know 1528 01:21:02.479 --> 01:21:05.960 how to read. Uh. I actually heard a lady. We 1529 01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:08.520 had a lady that called in and everybody's going to 1530 01:21:08.520 --> 01:21:11.520 think it's fake, what it really wasn't. And she called 1531 01:21:11.560 --> 01:21:14.920 in and she was one of these radio shows out here, 1532 01:21:14.960 --> 01:21:19.119 you know, in the morning show, morning whatever, and they 1533 01:21:19.359 --> 01:21:22.840 she called up and she was mad because I'm sorry, Lynn, 1534 01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:25.399 but she had hit a deer and she was angry 1535 01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:27.199 about it. And she said, we need to put the 1536 01:21:27.239 --> 01:21:33.479 deer cross inside in a much better place because the 1537 01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:35.880 deer shouldn't be able to cross here where so many 1538 01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:39.520 cars go. Why can't we put the deer deer crossed 1539 01:21:39.520 --> 01:21:42.840 and signs of it. This was slower traffic area, but 1540 01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:46.239 she was serious. And the morning, Yeah, it was really 1541 01:21:46.239 --> 01:21:48.039 funny because it went, it went all the way to 1542 01:21:48.079 --> 01:21:50.399 Borrow up to New York and stuff like that. Because 1543 01:21:50.439 --> 01:21:53.239 when you're in Jersey, New York, you know, everything kind 1544 01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:55.319 of bleeds into each other. When it comes to New 1545 01:21:55.399 --> 01:21:58.319 York stations and things like that, rock and roll stations 1546 01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:03.000 and stuff. So they yeah, And they at first thought 1547 01:22:03.079 --> 01:22:05.600 she was kiddened it was satire or parody or something, 1548 01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:08.359 but she was dead serious. And she didn't even understand 1549 01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:11.760 that unless they were really punk. She didn't even understand 1550 01:22:11.800 --> 01:22:13.840 what they were why they were asking her so many 1551 01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:17.359 questions about it. She's like, I just think that they should. 1552 01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:19.159 I mean, don't our tax dollars pay for that? Who 1553 01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:20.720 do we get hold of? Do we get hold of 1554 01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:26.119 the you know, the city? Or I'm tired of these deer? 1555 01:22:26.640 --> 01:22:30.399 That movie's signs, Oh, it was funny, don't well. 1556 01:22:30.800 --> 01:22:33.119 Let me tell you what I I'm used to South 1557 01:22:33.119 --> 01:22:35.920 Carob speaking of deer, I'm used to South Carolina deer. 1558 01:22:36.439 --> 01:22:39.199 I have never seen deer like the kind they had 1559 01:22:39.199 --> 01:22:41.800 in Virginia. I thought it was a horse laying in 1560 01:22:41.880 --> 01:22:43.640 the road. The thing was so thick it was a 1561 01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:48.439 it was a stag. So yeah, yeah, did they need 1562 01:22:48.479 --> 01:22:50.680 to put monster like they. 1563 01:22:52.079 --> 01:22:54.039 Yeah, exactly, you need to move on. 1564 01:22:54.680 --> 01:22:55.199 Who knew? 1565 01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:58.079 Yeah, that's sad. I mean, you know it's sad for 1566 01:22:58.159 --> 01:22:59.840 them too. You think that they can put something on 1567 01:22:59.840 --> 01:23:03.840 the cars or some some kind of an echo I 1568 01:23:03.880 --> 01:23:07.279 don't know, vibe or frequency that goes out that, you know. 1569 01:23:07.319 --> 01:23:10.039 I mean, you can get that those little noise makers 1570 01:23:10.079 --> 01:23:12.039 that supposedly frightened animals away. 1571 01:23:12.119 --> 01:23:13.119 But I don't know. 1572 01:23:13.159 --> 01:23:15.640 Sometimes I think the animals will come to see what 1573 01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:16.560 all the racket is. 1574 01:23:17.239 --> 01:23:19.760 I agree, maybe so, or maybe it was just a 1575 01:23:19.800 --> 01:23:24.079 deer that just you know, had enough, you know. I 1576 01:23:24.119 --> 01:23:28.039 mean it's got to be rough, you know. I don't know. 1577 01:23:28.199 --> 01:23:30.960 I just think it's sad. I always feel so bad 1578 01:23:31.039 --> 01:23:33.399 for animals who have had to adjust their lives so 1579 01:23:33.479 --> 01:23:40.199 much around our you know, our encroachment. Yeah, I was, yeah, 1580 01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:44.319 I was gonna say, O, our grotesque, you know, materialistic bullshit. 1581 01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:48.239 But you know, I've got eagles right to my left, 1582 01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:50.960 right now where I'm sitting, I've got eagles to my left, 1583 01:23:51.239 --> 01:23:54.039 probably about a block away in a cell tower. They 1584 01:23:54.039 --> 01:23:57.439 got a nest in a cell tower, Okay, which is 1585 01:23:57.439 --> 01:24:03.640 so sad. And I've watch the raccoons, you know, they've 1586 01:24:04.119 --> 01:24:06.439 they've got become amazing. They've learned how to do so 1587 01:24:06.520 --> 01:24:08.279 much stuff. I mean, people have to put locks on 1588 01:24:08.319 --> 01:24:10.479 the garbage cans, and they figure the locks out, you know, 1589 01:24:10.479 --> 01:24:13.319 the open gates you know, they'll come here and unhook 1590 01:24:13.399 --> 01:24:15.279 my bird feeders and just hand it down to the 1591 01:24:15.319 --> 01:24:18.039 next raccoon and just opened it up and need it all. 1592 01:24:18.479 --> 01:24:19.319 And that's why. 1593 01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:23.119 Yeah, the next day it looks like I candy bars 1594 01:24:23.159 --> 01:24:25.239 going all the way up down my driveway because they 1595 01:24:25.359 --> 01:24:28.960 ate so much bird seed. The their poop looks like 1596 01:24:29.720 --> 01:24:34.600 the snick of zagnut bars or something. I mean bird seeds, really, 1597 01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:37.600 you know, and it's going up, so you can't. I've 1598 01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:40.079 done all kinds of things. I've hooked them, I've wired them, 1599 01:24:40.079 --> 01:24:43.560 and they sit there, they figure it out. They're gonna 1600 01:24:43.560 --> 01:24:45.319 get it. You can't put a sue out here. They'll 1601 01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:48.399 take the sewet feeder. One night they just broke the 1602 01:24:48.439 --> 01:24:49.960 branch off the tree. Took the whole day of thing. 1603 01:24:50.640 --> 01:24:58.159 I mean, it wasn't I was like five stars, five stars. 1604 01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:01.359 I gave them five stars view. I mean that was 1605 01:25:01.479 --> 01:25:03.840 just okay, I got a hand it to you. You know, 1606 01:25:04.039 --> 01:25:06.319 that's I'm not buying any more suit. But I got 1607 01:25:06.319 --> 01:25:08.560 a hand it to you. That was a good one. Yeah. 1608 01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:11.239 I wired it so good that they couldn't figure how 1609 01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:12.680 to get it off. So they just broke off the 1610 01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:15.279 branch and I was like, power to you man. 1611 01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:18.960 You know the Braccoon's part. 1612 01:25:19.760 --> 01:25:22.039 I'm just telling that's you know, but look, they've had 1613 01:25:22.119 --> 01:25:23.239 to you. 1614 01:25:23.199 --> 01:25:26.079 Know, yeah, yeah, you know. I mean you drive down 1615 01:25:26.119 --> 01:25:28.760 the road and you might see a deer, you know, 1616 01:25:28.800 --> 01:25:31.039 watch for deer sign. And they're literally standing on the 1617 01:25:31.079 --> 01:25:35.279 side of the interstate with their babies eating. You know, 1618 01:25:35.399 --> 01:25:37.720 they're not afraid of the lights anymore. They're not even 1619 01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:40.680 afraid of a tooting horn. And then eventually they decided 1620 01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:41.720 to walk in the road. 1621 01:25:42.119 --> 01:25:44.800 I hate to see it. Love in my yard. I 1622 01:25:44.800 --> 01:25:46.239 get him in my yard once in a while. I 1623 01:25:46.279 --> 01:25:49.960 see him going around and I watched him eat one 1624 01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:53.359 of my trees and I didn't even care. I was 1625 01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:56.399 just so glad. I'm an idiot that's going around the 1626 01:25:56.399 --> 01:25:58.079 next day going we're going to get an apple block, 1627 01:25:58.159 --> 01:26:00.640 you know, to put it out there. But yeah, I 1628 01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:03.439 just we got to take care of it, you know, 1629 01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:05.880 we got to take care of nature. And I think 1630 01:26:07.520 --> 01:26:09.680 I think all this stuff we're talking about is just 1631 01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:13.000 as natural. And that's what gets me to be I 1632 01:26:13.000 --> 01:26:15.920 watch people get so upset about all because you don't 1633 01:26:16.239 --> 01:26:18.680 People are upset and scared of what they don't understand. 1634 01:26:18.760 --> 01:26:21.520 I get that, totally get it. And there's such a 1635 01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:25.840 realm in this paranormal I mean, you could go everything 1636 01:26:25.920 --> 01:26:29.479 from the Jersey Devil and again, just because I don't 1637 01:26:29.520 --> 01:26:36.399 believe the the origin story of the Jersey Devil, you know, 1638 01:26:37.079 --> 01:26:39.119 that doesn't mean I don't believe in curses. It doesn't 1639 01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:41.680 mean I don't believe that something like that, you know, 1640 01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:45.199 anything like that could be out in the woods. Look, 1641 01:26:45.239 --> 01:26:47.039 there's all kinds of shit out there. I don't know, 1642 01:26:47.600 --> 01:26:49.199 you know, there's some stuff. 1643 01:26:50.279 --> 01:26:56.399 All kinds of there's all kinds of any idea about 1644 01:26:58.399 --> 01:27:02.399 there's probably another half does and that people haven't run 1645 01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:03.239 into yet. 1646 01:27:03.600 --> 01:27:07.720 A thousand times more than the you know, the devil, 1647 01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:10.199 whatever this thing is. I mean, I don't even know 1648 01:27:10.199 --> 01:27:12.159 how old. That story is supposed to go way back 1649 01:27:12.199 --> 01:27:17.560 with like what fifteen sixteen hundred or something, So I mean, 1650 01:27:18.079 --> 01:27:23.479 in what in what world? You know? Now, that's what 1651 01:27:23.520 --> 01:27:26.199 I'm saying. That does doesn't make sense to me. There'd 1652 01:27:26.239 --> 01:27:29.079 be one creature for all that amount of time, and 1653 01:27:29.119 --> 01:27:32.960 wouldn't it just get Look, I take my words for it, folks, 1654 01:27:33.000 --> 01:27:36.399 it'd get tired of Jersey the first century. You know, 1655 01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:38.439 it'd be gone, you know, it would be out there 1656 01:27:38.479 --> 01:27:40.479 doing something else. You be out in Hawaii having a 1657 01:27:40.479 --> 01:27:42.840 good time. I don't know. I'm just saying, why there? 1658 01:27:43.319 --> 01:27:46.680 You know, now, is there something there? A creature of 1659 01:27:46.680 --> 01:27:49.720 some sort, is probably dog men out there, bigfoots. 1660 01:27:49.800 --> 01:27:51.680 There's all kinds of stuff, Like you said, there's all 1661 01:27:51.760 --> 01:27:54.000 kinds of shit in the pine bears. I've heard stories 1662 01:27:54.039 --> 01:27:59.600 out there. The guy that found a pizza in a 1663 01:27:59.640 --> 01:28:02.279 box out there, and that was the same guy that 1664 01:28:02.359 --> 01:28:05.920 observed somebody wearing only a cloud mask and tube sox 1665 01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:08.399 picking his way through the brier patch. But he said 1666 01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:10.479 that was the story for another time, so I never 1667 01:28:10.520 --> 01:28:11.760 did get to hear that one. 1668 01:28:12.199 --> 01:28:16.520 That's crazy. Also one of my favor that's just my 1669 01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:19.479 absolute favorite story, that the guy in the tube sox 1670 01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:22.760 and the climb picking his way very very gingerly through 1671 01:28:22.760 --> 01:28:27.239 the brier patch. Bety was, Betty Was, because I'll tell 1672 01:28:27.239 --> 01:28:30.760 you that stuff's about waste tie. You know that it's 1673 01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:34.640 it's a thick. It's really strange. It it's almost like 1674 01:28:34.680 --> 01:28:39.039 a like if you said, if I said the word 1675 01:28:39.279 --> 01:28:43.720 scrub pine to you, that gives you a visual of 1676 01:28:43.880 --> 01:28:49.840 just some really gnarly, short, little bushy kind of that's 1677 01:28:49.880 --> 01:28:52.119 what it's like. Mixed in with briers. 1678 01:28:53.439 --> 01:28:56.239 Is not something I'd want to run barrassed. That's just 1679 01:28:56.319 --> 01:28:56.800 what I mean. 1680 01:28:57.079 --> 01:28:59.680 And this couple one that we talked about that went 1681 01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:03.960 miss and was found side by side, okay, and if 1682 01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:07.800 I recall correctly, not far from their RV, that hadn't 1683 01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:11.159 to my knowledge, anything wrong with it, out of gas 1684 01:29:11.239 --> 01:29:14.880 or otherwise. I didn't hear, you know, the RV. And 1685 01:29:14.920 --> 01:29:17.680 they're laying there side by side, like you said, Steve, 1686 01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:20.840 in a place that had been searched before several times. 1687 01:29:21.239 --> 01:29:24.119 Yeah, just doesn't make any sense, but yet it happens, 1688 01:29:24.159 --> 01:29:25.439 and that happens often. 1689 01:29:26.079 --> 01:29:29.079 And this was I think twenty Do you recall the date, Steve. 1690 01:29:29.119 --> 01:29:30.760 It was twenty two, wasn't it. 1691 01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:32.079 I think so? 1692 01:29:32.600 --> 01:29:34.680 Yeah, I think so. I think it's the least maybe 1693 01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:38.000 a year, maybe twenty one, somewhe around two years maybe, i'go. 1694 01:29:38.359 --> 01:29:40.439 And I never heard a word about it, Never heard 1695 01:29:40.439 --> 01:29:44.720 a word about here. I'm sitting right here, my you know, 1696 01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:48.439 my county, my police, my search and rescue, all of 1697 01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:52.159 that right here. Never heard a word about it. Just 1698 01:29:52.800 --> 01:29:53.680 this is what I'm saying. 1699 01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:55.800 You think they'd come around and say, folks, there's all 1700 01:29:55.880 --> 01:29:57.680 kinds of shit out there. Be careful if you're going 1701 01:29:57.720 --> 01:30:00.399 into the woods, let somebody know where you going, when 1702 01:30:00.399 --> 01:30:03.000 you're going to be back, take something with you and 1703 01:30:03.600 --> 01:30:04.119 be careful. 1704 01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:06.640 But I'm not going to do it. And how many people? 1705 01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:09.800 Until dozens of people? And then maybe we should check 1706 01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:12.319 into that. Maybe we should warn the people here. 1707 01:30:12.920 --> 01:30:15.800 Yeah, and to have them check in with somebody like 1708 01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:19.239 every forty five minutes er hour, just to make sure, 1709 01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:22.600 you know, so at least they have a time frame 1710 01:30:22.720 --> 01:30:25.279 of where their last you know, if they're hiking in 1711 01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:28.680 the woods, what marker or what you know, type thing 1712 01:30:28.760 --> 01:30:31.399 that they maybe near, so that if they do disappear, 1713 01:30:31.479 --> 01:30:33.960 they have a you know, a closer starting point to 1714 01:30:34.000 --> 01:30:35.439 where the incident occurred. 1715 01:30:36.159 --> 01:30:39.159 Well, that would make too much damn sense, because look 1716 01:30:39.600 --> 01:30:45.560 how many shows of Steve done on missing persons, and 1717 01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:48.560 one after the other after and some of them shows 1718 01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:52.000 got five, ten, fifteen people in them, Steve them all. 1719 01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:57.600 Right, yeah, yeah, compilations there's ten or twelve. 1720 01:30:58.039 --> 01:31:00.399 We can't just go by the amount of video. And 1721 01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:02.760 this man's been doing it for a long time and 1722 01:31:03.159 --> 01:31:06.239 you're not the only one so and and y'all might 1723 01:31:06.279 --> 01:31:09.920 not match up on every case either. So imagine the 1724 01:31:09.960 --> 01:31:13.640 amount of this type of thing happening and nobody is 1725 01:31:13.680 --> 01:31:16.039 telling you. And I'm sitting here telling you as a 1726 01:31:16.039 --> 01:31:20.319 coastal town. You know, Jaws, they're not gonna tell you that. 1727 01:31:20.359 --> 01:31:23.279 Sharks and dagon they're gonna open the beaches and you're 1728 01:31:23.560 --> 01:31:26.239 I'm telling you it's gonna happen. It's seen to happen. 1729 01:31:26.520 --> 01:31:29.680 I've seen gone through hurricanes where they said, you know, oh, 1730 01:31:31.039 --> 01:31:33.439 didn't lose anybody, We only lost one hundred people. And 1731 01:31:33.479 --> 01:31:36.319 you know, daggone, well you saw five six hundred, you 1732 01:31:36.359 --> 01:31:40.520 know your very own eyes, time after time after time 1733 01:31:40.680 --> 01:31:42.920 after time, and not just here. So when you hear 1734 01:31:42.960 --> 01:31:46.000 it happen somewhere else, you're more likely to go mm hmm. Yeah, 1735 01:31:46.079 --> 01:31:48.920 I've seen it happen here. So when somebody like Elijah 1736 01:31:49.079 --> 01:31:52.399 Steve and I had I remember little Elijah, uh Steve, 1737 01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:57.239 it comes on after from a long uh long beat. 1738 01:31:57.439 --> 01:32:00.359 What's it called again? Land between the Lakes? Right, Land 1739 01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:02.800 between the Lakes, which is there right. 1740 01:32:02.600 --> 01:32:06.399 Aft sister Gamby. 1741 01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:12.199 Yeah, I'm sorry, yes, Tennessee. Yeah, So it's Kentucky Tennessee 1742 01:32:12.279 --> 01:32:17.880 border pretty much right there. And I mean just one 1743 01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:21.800 after the other after the other dog men, bigfoot sightings, 1744 01:32:21.840 --> 01:32:27.600 okay from reputable people, you know, retired police officers couldn't 1745 01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:30.680 tell it until they were out, you know. Just the 1746 01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:33.720 list goes on and on. Stephen can back me on that. 1747 01:32:34.359 --> 01:32:38.239 So all these people are having all these experiences and 1748 01:32:39.199 --> 01:32:42.680 the park covering it up, you know, name name when 1749 01:32:42.760 --> 01:32:45.720 it isn't. I mean, how many people go missing at 1750 01:32:45.760 --> 01:32:48.239 a you know, some of these other bigger parks, you know, 1751 01:32:48.359 --> 01:32:49.479 in it's. 1752 01:32:49.399 --> 01:32:53.279 A smaller park than the Great Smoky sees only about 1753 01:32:53.279 --> 01:32:56.279 half the visitors the Great Smoky's, but it's got like 1754 01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:59.039 three times the number of missing people. So there's something 1755 01:32:59.119 --> 01:33:01.720 going on. And you'll send me there's a major cluster there. 1756 01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:03.239 Yep, yep. 1757 01:33:03.399 --> 01:33:03.680 Yeah. 1758 01:33:03.720 --> 01:33:07.159 And then I think the only place they don't have 1759 01:33:07.199 --> 01:33:10.119 them is straight up the middle right stick and they 1760 01:33:10.159 --> 01:33:13.640 probably have them, but not as much, or not the 1761 01:33:13.720 --> 01:33:16.640 same type of clusters or whatever. I don't know, but 1762 01:33:16.960 --> 01:33:21.119 you know, again, I understand the people that go like 1763 01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:23.199 that young man who was that actor that just went 1764 01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:27.319 up the mountain? I think he went on my January fourteenth. 1765 01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:28.960 On my birthday, Julian sayds. 1766 01:33:29.279 --> 01:33:32.680 Yeah, you know, I don't find anything nefarious about that. 1767 01:33:32.720 --> 01:33:34.439 I think the man just went up there and got 1768 01:33:34.520 --> 01:33:38.119 in deeper and he thought something happened, you know, equipment malfunction, 1769 01:33:38.239 --> 01:33:39.159 he malfunctioned. 1770 01:33:39.239 --> 01:33:42.039 Yeah, that was up on Mount Baldy. But I will 1771 01:33:42.079 --> 01:33:45.279 tell you that's a weird place. There's a full pipe 1772 01:33:45.359 --> 01:33:47.840 up there for use for irrigation purposes. But I've been 1773 01:33:47.920 --> 01:33:51.359 up there back in the seventies skateboarding in it, and 1774 01:33:51.680 --> 01:33:54.000 we spent the night up there. We got caught up 1775 01:33:54.000 --> 01:33:57.479 there and couldn't get a hitchhike back down. And there's 1776 01:33:57.520 --> 01:34:00.520 all We heard all kinds of stuff up there, talking 1777 01:34:00.560 --> 01:34:02.600 and laughing and stuff. And as far as I know, 1778 01:34:02.680 --> 01:34:05.479 we were the only ones up there. So there's there's 1779 01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:07.039 a storage that's on Mountain Baldy. 1780 01:34:07.720 --> 01:34:10.680 Yep. You know, I think just about anywhere pick spot 1781 01:34:10.720 --> 01:34:13.319 that isn't you know? Here I am. I've got this 1782 01:34:14.199 --> 01:34:19.239 woman babies flying up fireplaces and stuff. Again, there is 1783 01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:22.880 a legend everywhere. I don't get it. While you got 1784 01:34:22.880 --> 01:34:24.640 to make stuff up when there's so much other shit 1785 01:34:24.720 --> 01:34:29.079 going on, it's you know, And again there could very 1786 01:34:29.079 --> 01:34:31.199 well be a creature out there and got himself a 1787 01:34:31.199 --> 01:34:34.479 cabin we've never bumped into. You know that could be, 1788 01:34:34.520 --> 01:34:38.000 could be invisible. I don't know, you know, but what's 1789 01:34:38.039 --> 01:34:40.960 it doing out there since you know fifteen hundred and whatever? 1790 01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:44.039 You know, is it breeding with it? And if it is, 1791 01:34:44.199 --> 01:34:46.159 was it breeding with the Chihuahwa next noise? 1792 01:34:46.239 --> 01:34:49.920 I think it's time and waiting for its next unsuspecting victim? 1793 01:34:50.439 --> 01:34:57.079 Is that what's happening? The clown mask was accompliced. The guy, 1794 01:34:57.479 --> 01:35:00.079 the naked guy in the cloud masking tube, SOX is like, 1795 01:35:00.159 --> 01:35:05.560 you know, it's his, his renfield. Now there's a leaden 1796 01:35:05.720 --> 01:35:08.680 rock there. A little bit more work we can make 1797 01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:09.039 that one. 1798 01:35:09.640 --> 01:35:11.920 You can't even make stuff like that up. I mean, 1799 01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:14.479 you hear some of the weirdest stories about places like that. 1800 01:35:14.880 --> 01:35:20.239 You don't have to make anything the stuff that normal 1801 01:35:20.760 --> 01:35:21.720 people tell you. 1802 01:35:22.119 --> 01:35:25.319 That's what I like that. And on top of that, 1803 01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:27.520 you know they say that that's that's the number, like 1804 01:35:27.840 --> 01:35:30.439 we always used to joke to because I was raised 1805 01:35:30.439 --> 01:35:32.920 that family. I told you where I went to stay with, 1806 01:35:33.239 --> 01:35:37.800 very Italian, very Jersey Italian, and that world was opened 1807 01:35:37.880 --> 01:35:40.199 up to me. So that that dinner table talk was 1808 01:35:40.239 --> 01:35:43.680 interesting because you have both sides of it. And I'm 1809 01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:45.560 out here in high school and I was in it 1810 01:35:46.199 --> 01:35:49.319 let me tell you something. Rocky came out, good lord, 1811 01:35:50.159 --> 01:35:54.880 I mean just all kinds of you know, and it 1812 01:35:55.000 --> 01:35:58.680 was all this underlying you know, the you know what, 1813 01:35:58.760 --> 01:36:00.960 the pine bears, that's where they up all the bodies, 1814 01:36:01.439 --> 01:36:04.960 you know, and the meadowlands and that's where they double 1815 01:36:04.960 --> 01:36:07.319 all every Listen, there's got to be a lot of 1816 01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:10.920 bodies because they probably were buried everywhere, you know, band 1817 01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:14.119 dunes and you know, you got if any if anybody 1818 01:36:14.119 --> 01:36:17.960 ever saw Boardwalk Empire, which is a great series by 1819 01:36:17.960 --> 01:36:21.319 the way, just a fantastically done series, but it had 1820 01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:24.119 Steve Bessemian and the whole thing is he was playing 1821 01:36:24.279 --> 01:36:29.760 uh oh, what's his name? Uh Nutley, Natsi, Nutsy, Oh, Nukie, 1822 01:36:29.840 --> 01:36:34.640 Nucky Nuckie, what's his face? From Atlantic City Back in 1823 01:36:34.680 --> 01:36:38.079 the day when it was just coming up. You know, 1824 01:36:38.479 --> 01:36:42.319 it was nothing but sand, you know, and they put 1825 01:36:42.319 --> 01:36:46.600 in the first hotels and stuff. Listen, the hotels in 1826 01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:49.439 the gambling places like that. All that happened before the 1827 01:36:49.479 --> 01:36:53.800 boardwalk because right around before, right before he got involved, 1828 01:36:54.479 --> 01:36:57.960 there was no boardwalk. The boardwalk was put in there 1829 01:36:58.000 --> 01:37:00.760 because people kept dragging the sand and of the hotels. 1830 01:37:01.439 --> 01:37:04.760 So somebody came up with the idea. I think it 1831 01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:07.560 was there. It was either I know it wasn't Asbury. 1832 01:37:07.840 --> 01:37:10.399 I'm pretty sure it was Atlantic City. Somebody can correct 1833 01:37:10.439 --> 01:37:13.159 me on it. But they came up with the idea 1834 01:37:13.239 --> 01:37:17.319 putting boards out with the spacemen between them so the 1835 01:37:17.399 --> 01:37:19.960 sand would fall down, and they went the other way, 1836 01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:23.239 like from the beach into the hotel. And then eventually 1837 01:37:23.319 --> 01:37:25.720 somebody decided to turn sideways and make it walk in 1838 01:37:25.720 --> 01:37:27.920 front of all of them. So that was kind of cool, 1839 01:37:28.479 --> 01:37:30.159 and that's how you got your boardwalk. 1840 01:37:30.359 --> 01:37:32.840 I didn't know the origin story the boardwalk there, but 1841 01:37:32.920 --> 01:37:34.439 that's fascinating and it makes sense. 1842 01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:38.039 Yeah, it's simple, just something simple, and eventually it got 1843 01:37:38.079 --> 01:37:41.439 lifted up because you know, the they were learning the 1844 01:37:41.479 --> 01:37:44.520 tides and the tables, and you know, things sorted itself 1845 01:37:44.560 --> 01:37:47.239 out by the time you got to where Nukie and 1846 01:37:47.319 --> 01:37:49.359 all them were, you know, really starting to kick in 1847 01:37:49.399 --> 01:37:52.720 with the you know, all of that politics and gambling 1848 01:37:52.840 --> 01:37:56.680 and blackmailing and chicanery and you know, organized crime and stuff. 1849 01:37:57.680 --> 01:38:00.960 You know, it's wild to think of it as nothing 1850 01:38:01.039 --> 01:38:04.960 but some sand dunes and a lot of wild grass 1851 01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:08.720 and waves and stuff like that. And where I'm at too, 1852 01:38:10.000 --> 01:38:12.199 you know, every single beach here has got its origin, 1853 01:38:12.359 --> 01:38:14.319 you know how it came out. But the biggest ones, 1854 01:38:14.479 --> 01:38:16.960 you know, Asbury Park has got a good one too. 1855 01:38:17.039 --> 01:38:20.119 And it was Asbury Park, everybody's heard of because of 1856 01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:24.000 Springsteen and things like that and Stone Pony. But next 1857 01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:27.720 to that is also Bradley Beach. And Asbury got its 1858 01:38:27.720 --> 01:38:31.159 start because these big wings would come in from New 1859 01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:34.640 York and they go out there and they'd start walking along, 1860 01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:36.920 you know, the ocean and get the ocean air. And 1861 01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:38.479 it was a big deal. That's where they were top 1862 01:38:38.520 --> 01:38:40.920 hats to the beach and women wore at least like 1863 01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:44.560 six skirts and big hats and umbrellas and stuff. But 1864 01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:47.720 he went and he got this idea, and his last 1865 01:38:47.800 --> 01:38:50.960 name was Bradley, and he got the idea that laying 1866 01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:56.439 out with his in quotations in his biography, it actually says, 1867 01:38:56.560 --> 01:39:01.359 man servant, so you know, your milin may vary. And 1868 01:39:01.439 --> 01:39:06.800 they would lay out on the beach naked and taken 1869 01:39:07.039 --> 01:39:10.159 the healing salt air, very much like Ben Franklin would 1870 01:39:10.199 --> 01:39:13.359 take air baths. And he thought it would be a 1871 01:39:13.359 --> 01:39:16.159 wonderful healthy thing. And he said, you know what, when 1872 01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:19.319 we get back into the city, I'm going to buy 1873 01:39:19.319 --> 01:39:21.600 a hotel. I'm going to build a hotel here, and 1874 01:39:21.640 --> 01:39:24.840 we're going to run a like a health spot. And 1875 01:39:24.840 --> 01:39:27.920 that's how it started out. Was all done by you know, 1876 01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:30.880 that kind of thing for the very rich, and of 1877 01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:33.520 course they brought their servants with them and the people 1878 01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:35.439 that worked for them, and that's when all the little 1879 01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:40.640 bungalow houses started around the beach, and that's how all 1880 01:39:40.680 --> 01:39:43.279 of this stuff grew up. And then somehow it got 1881 01:39:43.279 --> 01:39:48.239 turned into the you know, like all touristy and big 1882 01:39:48.279 --> 01:39:52.720 places like these big theme parks and big national parks 1883 01:39:52.760 --> 01:39:56.199 apparently that don't want to tell you that, you know, 1884 01:39:56.279 --> 01:39:59.039 you should bring protection and there's actually stuff in there 1885 01:39:59.079 --> 01:40:01.960 you should work you about, you know. But at this 1886 01:40:02.119 --> 01:40:05.399 point you're going into the woods without telling somebody where 1887 01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:08.239 you are, and you don't have any protection whatsoever, and 1888 01:40:08.239 --> 01:40:10.840 you're not aware or where you're going, you probably didn't go. 1889 01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:16.439 Also, also stories I've heard of like an animal park 1890 01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:18.600 or something up there where they let the animals go, 1891 01:40:19.159 --> 01:40:22.119 and that in the pine barrens too, where there's supposedly 1892 01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:25.600 jungle land or something like that, they close down and 1893 01:40:25.600 --> 01:40:28.439 then they just left all the animals. So there's maybe 1894 01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:31.680 wild animals remnants up there running around eating people. 1895 01:40:31.840 --> 01:40:32.039 You know. 1896 01:40:32.079 --> 01:40:34.439 I recall hearing something similar to that, But I'd be 1897 01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:37.840 lying if I said I knew the story. There's been 1898 01:40:38.000 --> 01:40:41.720 so many stories around here. There's just I think what 1899 01:40:41.840 --> 01:40:44.239 it is, Steve, is there's, like I said, there's a 1900 01:40:44.239 --> 01:40:47.439 creepy place that actually feels creepy, not because you've been 1901 01:40:47.520 --> 01:40:50.720 told it's creepy or that something creepy's gone on there. 1902 01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:54.000 You just feel it. You know, these places we walk into, 1903 01:40:54.000 --> 01:40:56.640 we've all done it, and you know, you might be 1904 01:40:56.720 --> 01:40:58.920 riding on the road and feel it. You know, you 1905 01:40:59.039 --> 01:41:01.079 feel it when you're going into Gettysburg, you feel it 1906 01:41:01.119 --> 01:41:04.239 when you're you know all that. So I think there's 1907 01:41:04.279 --> 01:41:07.640 places already feel like that. And then people, you know, 1908 01:41:07.680 --> 01:41:09.800 of course you and I've talked about this too, about 1909 01:41:09.840 --> 01:41:13.079 you know, parents make up stuff. Every culture has got 1910 01:41:13.199 --> 01:41:17.479 him all around the world, the Boogeyman, the the you know, 1911 01:41:17.600 --> 01:41:21.239 name him off. You know, it could be anything, the 1912 01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:24.039 Baba Duke and all these other things. There's all the 1913 01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:29.680 different you know, crampus, and they make up stuff to 1914 01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:32.600 keep kids in line, you know. And I think some 1915 01:41:32.600 --> 01:41:37.119 some old adults are just mean too. They Yeah, like 1916 01:41:37.159 --> 01:41:40.000 you have your old grandfather just you know, you know, hey, 1917 01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:42.079 hey go take the garbage out, you know, don't let 1918 01:41:42.119 --> 01:41:44.760 the you know, bloody bill get you. You know, you 1919 01:41:44.800 --> 01:41:45.640 know that grandpa. 1920 01:41:46.159 --> 01:41:49.199 You know that grandpa, right, buddy bones. 1921 01:41:49.520 --> 01:41:53.079 That's it? Yeah, yeah, I forget. Didn't we talk about 1922 01:41:53.119 --> 01:41:53.840 that not long ago? 1923 01:41:56.920 --> 01:41:58.920 The green eyed woman. I don't know what that was. 1924 01:41:58.960 --> 01:42:01.920 But when I was a kid, don't you go out 1925 01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:03.960 there in the garage and mess around because there's a 1926 01:42:03.960 --> 01:42:04.920 green eyed woman. 1927 01:42:04.760 --> 01:42:06.800 Out there that will get you. And that's really not 1928 01:42:06.840 --> 01:42:07.920 even anything frightening. 1929 01:42:07.960 --> 01:42:14.920 But got a teenage boy, he'd run out there. Yeah, say, 1930 01:42:14.960 --> 01:42:17.399 we got a green issue of Redhead hit me running. 1931 01:42:17.840 --> 01:42:19.560 You know, that would only work till you got out 1932 01:42:19.600 --> 01:42:23.119 of childhood. I think after was something different. That's funny. 1933 01:42:23.439 --> 01:42:26.399 But get scared me when you said it, just the 1934 01:42:26.439 --> 01:42:28.319 way you said it kind of scared me, didn't it 1935 01:42:28.359 --> 01:42:32.279 scare you a little? It's like what green eyed woman? 1936 01:42:32.319 --> 01:42:33.079 I don't want to do? 1937 01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:40.479 Yeah, but yeah, it was waste any time in the garage. Course, 1938 01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:43.720 you know, there was chemicals and gasoline and stuff out 1939 01:42:43.760 --> 01:42:45.439 there that I wasn't supposed to be messing with. 1940 01:42:45.600 --> 01:42:49.479 But that was just a good story. I didn't ask 1941 01:42:49.520 --> 01:42:51.479 her to elaborate. I didn't want to know. That was enough. 1942 01:42:51.600 --> 01:42:53.800 There was a green eyed woman out there, that's it. 1943 01:42:55.720 --> 01:42:58.000 You'd have a garage, I did. 1944 01:42:58.640 --> 01:43:01.479 It's funny. I'm just thinking about the old mean grandfather, 1945 01:43:01.880 --> 01:43:04.760 the grandpa's stuff. You know, that glad to rattle the 1946 01:43:04.800 --> 01:43:07.560 gas cans to make you jump and just laugh. You 1947 01:43:07.560 --> 01:43:11.199 know that kind of guy. You know, that's funny. I'm 1948 01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:12.079 sorry I didn't go ahead. 1949 01:43:12.399 --> 01:43:15.119 No, no, no, it's okay. I was just thinking of 1950 01:43:14.680 --> 01:43:17.319 what you were saying. You know about that again, you know, 1951 01:43:17.359 --> 01:43:19.840 the manipulation and the fear. But you know, thinking about 1952 01:43:19.840 --> 01:43:21.159 some of these things, and I don't know a lot 1953 01:43:21.199 --> 01:43:24.159 about the area that you were talking about, but even 1954 01:43:24.199 --> 01:43:26.039 in general, with some of the parks and things like 1955 01:43:26.079 --> 01:43:29.479 that where people disappear, I mean, some of these things, 1956 01:43:29.560 --> 01:43:34.159 like even Bigfoot, they manipulate the dimensions and the veils, 1957 01:43:34.159 --> 01:43:38.800 and they use portals sometimes where they exit from here 1958 01:43:38.880 --> 01:43:41.159 and then turn to somewhere else, and they can grab 1959 01:43:41.199 --> 01:43:44.159 people and take them through the portals with them, you know, 1960 01:43:44.279 --> 01:43:46.600 and could be a reason why, you know, all of 1961 01:43:46.640 --> 01:43:48.640 a sudden, they've searched this area and now all of 1962 01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:51.199 a sudden, these bodies show up because they threw them 1963 01:43:51.279 --> 01:43:53.960 back out of the portals, back into this dimension. 1964 01:43:54.039 --> 01:43:56.960 And I believe it. I believe it. I believe it. 1965 01:43:57.319 --> 01:43:59.399 I believe they take them up, they take them through, 1966 01:43:59.439 --> 01:44:03.039 they take them down and take him in out sideways. 1967 01:44:03.640 --> 01:44:06.399 I mean, is it not true, Steve? I mean, we've 1968 01:44:06.439 --> 01:44:11.800 got we've got accounts of people being taken up. You 1969 01:44:11.840 --> 01:44:15.720 can hear the wind as their cell phone falls away 1970 01:44:15.720 --> 01:44:18.640 and breaks or whatever. You know, you know what I'm 1971 01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:21.560 talking about, Steve, Where they say it was such a 1972 01:44:21.600 --> 01:44:24.560 wind and you can almost hear this like they were 1973 01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:27.840 talking on the phone or it recorded when it was doing. 1974 01:44:28.640 --> 01:44:31.439 You know, he's talking to a voicemail so recorded on 1975 01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:35.079 their side and they can hear it. It's just there's 1976 01:44:35.359 --> 01:44:39.680 and this something else that intrigues me too, is this 1977 01:44:40.359 --> 01:44:47.119 sound of the metal trap closing. Yeah, you know you 1978 01:44:47.159 --> 01:44:48.119 know what I mean, Steve. 1979 01:44:48.920 --> 01:44:51.880 Yeah, I've heard stories of that. I've heard more than one. 1980 01:44:52.000 --> 01:44:54.680 Fund in the woods. Myself, I had some some missing 1981 01:44:54.720 --> 01:44:56.760 time that went along with that as a teenager. But 1982 01:44:57.680 --> 01:44:58.760 there's something out there. 1983 01:44:59.680 --> 01:45:03.039 There is There was recently some people that were doing 1984 01:45:03.079 --> 01:45:07.520 investigations out and I think it was a Skinwalker Ranch area, 1985 01:45:07.680 --> 01:45:12.319 and they were taking a picture of something and somehow 1986 01:45:12.640 --> 01:45:14.600 or he was taking a picture of a person or 1987 01:45:14.600 --> 01:45:17.800 a selfie of himself or something, and there was nothing 1988 01:45:17.840 --> 01:45:19.920 around him, but he could feel that there was something 1989 01:45:19.960 --> 01:45:21.880 around him. And then all of a sudden, when they 1990 01:45:21.880 --> 01:45:24.439 went back and they looked at the picture, this guy 1991 01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:27.880 had on these navigator type sunglasses with the moss on them, 1992 01:45:28.039 --> 01:45:30.640 and you could see the face of Bigfoot in the 1993 01:45:30.720 --> 01:45:34.720 in the lens of his glasses. So yeah, but yet 1994 01:45:34.840 --> 01:45:37.760 there was nothing there. But actually there was something there 1995 01:45:37.760 --> 01:45:41.439 because they were manipulating the veils through the portals. They 1996 01:45:41.439 --> 01:45:44.560 were standing right there. And yeah, I saw that. 1997 01:45:44.760 --> 01:45:48.119 I agree, I saw it. I agree. And again it's 1998 01:45:48.159 --> 01:45:52.079 it's almost like you're thinking of it's just the formula, 1999 01:45:52.960 --> 01:45:57.279 you know, it's the reflection back and you know what 2000 01:45:57.279 --> 01:46:01.359 I mean, it's like almost three times. Yeah, and I 2001 01:46:01.399 --> 01:46:05.199 mean like you're catching in between the dimensions there or something. 2002 01:46:05.560 --> 01:46:09.319 It's it's very intriguing. Yeah, they're right there in a 2003 01:46:09.359 --> 01:46:11.199 lot of cases. Yes, I believe that. 2004 01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:13.760 Like you said, I mean, there's so much more to 2005 01:46:13.920 --> 01:46:16.680 it that we just don't know, and we won't know 2006 01:46:16.840 --> 01:46:20.560 probably until you know, we we cross over or the 2007 01:46:20.600 --> 01:46:23.880 things are finally exposed or acknowledged and more people come together. 2008 01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:27.520 And you know, with this dimensional shift that we're going 2009 01:46:27.560 --> 01:46:30.560 through right now, that's elevating the energies to the fifth 2010 01:46:30.640 --> 01:46:33.520 versus the third, a lot of these portals and these 2011 01:46:33.640 --> 01:46:35.840 these ways that they travel are going to start to 2012 01:46:35.840 --> 01:46:36.560 be exposed. 2013 01:46:37.159 --> 01:46:40.880 Yep, yep. And I hope the uh, Steve, and I've 2014 01:46:40.880 --> 01:46:43.720 always hoped that they never catch them, never get caught. 2015 01:46:43.800 --> 01:46:48.600 Never there's something, there's a there's something in place that's 2016 01:46:48.680 --> 01:46:51.600 just not going to allow it in some way or another, 2017 01:46:52.039 --> 01:46:55.039 at least not yet for whatever reason. And I hope not. 2018 01:46:55.399 --> 01:46:57.880 And I'm one hundred percent convinced and have most of 2019 01:46:57.880 --> 01:47:02.520 my life been convinced through more of the Native American 2020 01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:07.319 kind of belief and not just like from one place, 2021 01:47:07.439 --> 01:47:10.439 but you know, it started with my grandmother, little bits 2022 01:47:10.439 --> 01:47:12.560 here and there, but picking it up and then that 2023 01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:14.840 intriguing my inswers, so of course I'm going to pick 2024 01:47:14.880 --> 01:47:18.079 them up in other places too. About I absolutely believe 2025 01:47:18.119 --> 01:47:21.560 there's more than one kind when you're talking about and 2026 01:47:21.640 --> 01:47:25.479 I think the difference between the two types, if not 2027 01:47:25.640 --> 01:47:28.600 more at the very least two types, would be the 2028 01:47:28.640 --> 01:47:33.520 difference between a wolf and a German shepherd. Oh yeah, 2029 01:47:33.760 --> 01:47:40.439 definitely can catch my dress. Yes, more domestic, more, more acclimated, more, 2030 01:47:40.800 --> 01:47:43.319 you know, probably could if they wanted to go, you 2031 01:47:43.319 --> 01:47:46.800 know whatever. And I think the others are can be 2032 01:47:46.920 --> 01:47:51.119 protectors and also predators, you know, so again you've got 2033 01:47:51.199 --> 01:47:54.720 split groups in those just like us, just like what 2034 01:47:55.640 --> 01:47:57.760 you know. Doesn't that make sense, Steve? I mean just 2035 01:47:57.840 --> 01:48:02.079 like why you know? And I think that causes all 2036 01:48:02.119 --> 01:48:06.640 of the you know, the tension into you know, people 2037 01:48:06.680 --> 01:48:09.840 trying to sort it too, because you know, if we 2038 01:48:09.880 --> 01:48:12.399 can't just accept the fact that we don't have all 2039 01:48:12.399 --> 01:48:16.920 the answers, and if we widen that that space, it's 2040 01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:20.199 like when you move up to your your your forty 2041 01:48:20.279 --> 01:48:23.159 thousand foot view, you can get a much better view. 2042 01:48:23.239 --> 01:48:25.479 And then if you can do that around people that 2043 01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:28.960 can actually talk about stuff and not worry so much 2044 01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:31.520 about you know, my story is bigger than your story, 2045 01:48:31.640 --> 01:48:34.840 or I know, my ability is more. Okay, Look, it 2046 01:48:34.880 --> 01:48:37.439 takes a village, you know. Do you want to leave 2047 01:48:37.479 --> 01:48:39.399 here with a little bit more answers and maybe have 2048 01:48:39.479 --> 01:48:41.359 it a little easier on the other side, or get 2049 01:48:41.399 --> 01:48:43.800 to the other side, or maybe not getting here stuck 2050 01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:46.640 or maybe not, or maybe being able to help a 2051 01:48:46.720 --> 01:48:49.600 situation that you're in or some a loved one is in, 2052 01:48:49.720 --> 01:48:54.319 or whatever, just just to expand your thinking, you know, 2053 01:48:54.760 --> 01:48:57.119 maybe not be so close book about it. You know, 2054 01:48:57.520 --> 01:48:59.960 Steve and I have had guests and stuff. We've just 2055 01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:04.359 you know, God bless them. But because you're being polite 2056 01:49:04.359 --> 01:49:07.680 and you've invite them to your house, so you and 2057 01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:11.279 they are absolutely free for any way they want to 2058 01:49:11.279 --> 01:49:13.600 think upside down on the other but they're on the 2059 01:49:13.640 --> 01:49:17.319 other side and they're a whole hog on something completely 2060 01:49:17.720 --> 01:49:20.640 that you sorted twenty five years ago. But you have 2061 01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:23.039 to let them do it, not only because it's the 2062 01:49:23.119 --> 01:49:24.840 right thing to do, because they have every right to 2063 01:49:24.840 --> 01:49:27.680 feel and say how they want to feel. But they're 2064 01:49:27.680 --> 01:49:31.039 not going to convince you, you know. Like I said, 2065 01:49:31.119 --> 01:49:33.479 I started this whole thing with, like, please don't tell 2066 01:49:33.479 --> 01:49:35.880 me ghost to made of green jello, because I know better. 2067 01:49:36.840 --> 01:49:40.680 You know, you're welcome to your green jellal chocolate pudding, 2068 01:49:40.720 --> 01:49:43.800 vanilla sprinkles. I don't care what you're doing over there, 2069 01:49:44.399 --> 01:49:47.479 you know, but if you're coming over here, you know, 2070 01:49:47.560 --> 01:49:50.680 everybody here is in a different part of consciousness and 2071 01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:53.720 we're all just trying to gather data, put it on 2072 01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:56.479 our shelves, and we can sort it as we need 2073 01:49:56.479 --> 01:49:57.159 to be later on. 2074 01:49:57.319 --> 01:49:59.880 There's so many different things. Back in college, I took 2075 01:49:59.920 --> 01:50:04.159 it class and critical thinking, and the professor was like, 2076 01:50:04.840 --> 01:50:07.079 how can we prove the pigs don't fly? And somebody 2077 01:50:07.159 --> 01:50:08.720 was like, well, you take them up on a cliff 2078 01:50:09.239 --> 01:50:11.000 and you throw them off, And he said, you didn't 2079 01:50:11.119 --> 01:50:13.960 didn't prove that they couldn't fly. You just proved that 2080 01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:16.520 they didn't fly. Maybe they can fly and they chose 2081 01:50:16.560 --> 01:50:19.279 not to fly. So you know with those kind of 2082 01:50:19.439 --> 01:50:23.159 arguencies that you can't prove any of this stuff those 2083 01:50:24.279 --> 01:50:26.079 and even at the end it was like, well all 2084 01:50:26.119 --> 01:50:29.199 you prove was that particular pig chose not to fly. 2085 01:50:29.359 --> 01:50:32.439 You still hadn't didn't prove that he couldn't fly. So again, 2086 01:50:32.520 --> 01:50:34.720 it's just it's the same with his ghosts. It's not 2087 01:50:34.760 --> 01:50:37.800 a one size fits all, And yes, your mileage will 2088 01:50:37.880 --> 01:50:39.560 vary considerably. 2089 01:50:39.399 --> 01:50:44.199 Yeah, absolutely, and it's all. And I think it's even deeper, 2090 01:50:44.720 --> 01:50:48.880 because why not. I think it's more complex than we 2091 01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:53.560 could ever know and more simplistic than we could ever understand. 2092 01:50:54.399 --> 01:50:57.000 And if we can find a happy medium between there 2093 01:50:57.119 --> 01:51:01.399 and just let it be and just instead of fighting 2094 01:51:01.439 --> 01:51:04.720 against it kind of you know, wow, that was cool. 2095 01:51:04.920 --> 01:51:07.520 You know, maybe that butterfly was Uncle Frank. I'm going 2096 01:51:07.560 --> 01:51:10.680 to say it was why not whistle along? You know, 2097 01:51:10.800 --> 01:51:13.760 my merry way? Who did I hurt? You know? And 2098 01:51:13.840 --> 01:51:17.079 maybe I thought of Uncle Frank and he smiled wherever 2099 01:51:17.119 --> 01:51:20.720 he may be. You know, my thinking is different than 2100 01:51:20.760 --> 01:51:23.479 some other people's because I think that's possible. And not 2101 01:51:23.560 --> 01:51:25.960 only do I think it's possible, I think it's probable. 2102 01:51:26.640 --> 01:51:29.680 You know, yep, totally totally agree. 2103 01:51:29.720 --> 01:51:32.680 I mean my I've made mention too, you know, with 2104 01:51:33.359 --> 01:51:36.920 people making packed with their loved ones even after they've 2105 01:51:36.960 --> 01:51:40.279 passed because they can hear you, and you know, and 2106 01:51:40.399 --> 01:51:44.079 showing up. My sister leaves feathers and she shows up 2107 01:51:44.119 --> 01:51:47.319 as dragonflies, so you're bringing up the dragonflies and sometimes 2108 01:51:47.319 --> 01:51:50.359 she flies with my sister. She's one's blue eyed, one's 2109 01:51:50.439 --> 01:51:52.319 green eyed, and they always show up, one green one, 2110 01:51:52.399 --> 01:51:55.560 one blue one. My mother leaves hair, So you know, 2111 01:51:55.920 --> 01:51:57.119 all of that is possible. 2112 01:51:58.079 --> 01:52:01.720 Yeah, it's his individual as they are and as we are, 2113 01:52:01.840 --> 01:52:04.960 because I do believe that that energy that we were 2114 01:52:04.960 --> 01:52:10.279 talking about before about think about that, folks. You know, 2115 01:52:10.399 --> 01:52:15.359 I've got friends, dear friends and acquaintances throughout my life 2116 01:52:15.399 --> 01:52:18.239 that were remote viewers, and I used to sit and 2117 01:52:18.520 --> 01:52:23.760 and something. I want to say the natives that I've 2118 01:52:24.119 --> 01:52:26.960 had the chance to talk to about this in my lifetime. 2119 01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:30.000 I don't want to single out anyone probe because at 2120 01:52:30.000 --> 01:52:32.520 this point everybody's kind of mixed anyway when it comes 2121 01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:35.439 to thoughts, and you know, there are some that are 2122 01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:37.720 only held by Navajo and some that are only you know, 2123 01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:42.439 more traditional to this tribe or that. But with these people, 2124 01:52:42.640 --> 01:52:46.439 it was all it's how. It's not so much you're 2125 01:52:46.560 --> 01:52:50.520 manifesting it yourself, because there are going to be things 2126 01:52:50.520 --> 01:52:52.560 that are what they are no matter what you think 2127 01:52:52.640 --> 01:52:58.960 or feel. But how your journey is your choice. We 2128 01:52:59.000 --> 01:53:01.279 all go about it a little different because we all 2129 01:53:01.279 --> 01:53:03.680 go about life a little different, even though we all 2130 01:53:03.720 --> 01:53:05.960 pretty much want the same thing, and we all go 2131 01:53:06.039 --> 01:53:08.920 about fighting through it, you know, in a lot of ways, 2132 01:53:09.039 --> 01:53:11.600 for a lot of different reasons. You know, culture and 2133 01:53:11.880 --> 01:53:16.159 time and you know just so much going on around you. 2134 01:53:16.720 --> 01:53:19.479 What were you born into? You just think about you 2135 01:53:19.520 --> 01:53:23.399 ever thought about how different your life could be if 2136 01:53:23.399 --> 01:53:25.760 you're just born in another zip code or in another 2137 01:53:25.800 --> 01:53:31.520 country or another I mean, wow, wow, I mean I 2138 01:53:31.560 --> 01:53:37.159 think about or another way. Yeah yeah, And how quickly 2139 01:53:37.199 --> 01:53:39.479 you can change it too, and by doing this the opposite, 2140 01:53:39.560 --> 01:53:41.760 say you're in a bad situation or you know, people 2141 01:53:41.840 --> 01:53:44.720 don't often think about that where it was always so 2142 01:53:44.840 --> 01:53:47.039 easy for me because my mom moved around a lot 2143 01:53:47.039 --> 01:53:48.720 when I was a kid. So got in my blood, 2144 01:53:48.800 --> 01:53:52.359 you know, very nobody kind of gypsy kind of you know, 2145 01:53:52.960 --> 01:53:56.159 it's like no problem, pick up, go and bloom where 2146 01:53:56.159 --> 01:53:58.560 you're planting, you know, just the way they used to 2147 01:53:58.600 --> 01:54:02.079 do it, you know. And then some people you talk 2148 01:54:02.119 --> 01:54:04.319 to him, lived you're all my life. I heard a 2149 01:54:04.359 --> 01:54:06.239 guy express it the other day. I love the way 2150 01:54:06.239 --> 01:54:08.520 he said, he goes, lived here all my life, boy, 2151 01:54:08.520 --> 01:54:14.039 And man, I loved it. You know. But how different, 2152 01:54:14.399 --> 01:54:18.079 how different the world looks, not better, not not not better, 2153 01:54:18.199 --> 01:54:22.960 not worse, not just different. And it's all about where 2154 01:54:23.000 --> 01:54:25.000 you are and how you perceive where you. 2155 01:54:25.119 --> 01:54:28.560 Are, about the journey and how you adapt to it 2156 01:54:28.600 --> 01:54:32.079 and how you you make of it. Well, was all 2157 01:54:32.119 --> 01:54:34.920 that said. We're almost out of time here, ladies. This 2158 01:54:35.000 --> 01:54:39.319 has been just amazing amount of fun tonight and closing, 2159 01:54:39.479 --> 01:54:42.920 let everybody know what y'all individually have going on and 2160 01:54:42.960 --> 01:54:44.840 where people can find you, and I'll put it in 2161 01:54:44.880 --> 01:54:45.520 the show notes. 2162 01:54:46.039 --> 01:54:48.479 Go ahead, go ahead, Lynn, Well you can find you 2163 01:54:48.560 --> 01:54:49.760 with Cisco on Sundays. 2164 01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:53.159 So as we're doing a series right now, the last 2165 01:54:53.159 --> 01:54:55.319 Sunday of every month. I hope to be on with 2166 01:54:55.359 --> 01:54:56.479 Steve again soon. 2167 01:54:56.720 --> 01:54:59.279 So much fun. It's called tell him what It's called. Lynn. 2168 01:55:00.840 --> 01:55:04.399 We're doing a summer event and it's called come on 2169 01:55:04.479 --> 01:55:07.359 the Show. It's a Sunday nights, eight pm Eastern Time, 2170 01:55:08.000 --> 01:55:10.279 and Lynn and I are doing something all summer we 2171 01:55:10.319 --> 01:55:15.079 did we started. It's called Liberty, Liberty, Revolutionary Wind and 2172 01:55:15.119 --> 01:55:17.119 we're going all the way back to the beginning. And 2173 01:55:17.159 --> 01:55:20.199 we had a wonderful documentary from nineteen ninety seven that 2174 01:55:20.239 --> 01:55:22.920 we were watching. We're watching it live with our chat, 2175 01:55:22.960 --> 01:55:26.159 having a blast in the chat and just everybody throwing 2176 01:55:26.199 --> 01:55:28.640 their ideas and what they thought the stories were, like, 2177 01:55:29.279 --> 01:55:31.880 was George Washington the Cherry Tree true? Or you know 2178 01:55:32.039 --> 01:55:34.600 was that legend? And just all the little things too, 2179 01:55:34.640 --> 01:55:37.359 and about you know, so many interesting things, so many 2180 01:55:37.680 --> 01:55:40.800 beautiful minds and wonderful words that you know, really kind 2181 01:55:40.800 --> 01:55:44.479 of profound today and having a blast, and then we're 2182 01:55:44.479 --> 01:55:48.279 going through Sons of Liberty, and we're going to talk 2183 01:55:48.279 --> 01:55:53.680 about the difference between reality and what actually happened in 2184 01:55:53.720 --> 01:55:56.720 that series and fun with it because it's just such 2185 01:55:56.760 --> 01:55:59.680 a fun, wonderful history series, even though a lot of 2186 01:55:59.720 --> 01:56:04.039 it did happen. And then we're going into what really 2187 01:56:04.079 --> 01:56:08.880 happened in turn with the cop perspiring and all of 2188 01:56:08.920 --> 01:56:15.039 the fantastic spies that General Washington had and how that 2189 01:56:15.199 --> 01:56:17.800 had to do with the birth of this country. So 2190 01:56:17.800 --> 01:56:20.119 we're having a blast with that. We are. 2191 01:56:20.159 --> 01:56:23.600 And also Cisco's always she's amazing and she always puts 2192 01:56:23.680 --> 01:56:27.319 her the twist on it with the little you know, 2193 01:56:27.840 --> 01:56:32.199 some different you know, tapings of different scenarios and things 2194 01:56:32.239 --> 01:56:34.479 that have occurred that she adds in there so that 2195 01:56:34.520 --> 01:56:36.640 people can really get the point and they can really 2196 01:56:36.640 --> 01:56:39.760 really understand it. So I'm having a blast with this. 2197 01:56:39.840 --> 01:56:42.560 I'm so I feel so fortunate that Cisco has invited. 2198 01:56:42.680 --> 01:56:44.399 Oh, it's been so much fun. We're gonna have fun. 2199 01:56:44.439 --> 01:56:46.600 It's been a nice thing to go through the number. 2200 01:56:46.680 --> 01:56:49.439 It doesn't only remind us of history, but we're also 2201 01:56:49.600 --> 01:56:52.399 doing it because we both believe in a lot of 2202 01:56:52.399 --> 01:56:55.079 this isn't getting taught in school. And you know, when 2203 01:56:55.119 --> 01:56:57.680 you go back to the you know, the PBS in 2204 01:56:57.680 --> 01:56:59.760 in the nineties they were kind of still telling the 2205 01:56:59.760 --> 01:57:03.119 truth and we're mucking it up so much. And it's 2206 01:57:03.159 --> 01:57:05.439 good to sit down with the grandkids or some maybe 2207 01:57:05.439 --> 01:57:08.239 watch it or or maybe you or you know, uh, 2208 01:57:08.840 --> 01:57:11.159 you know, you want to look at how the Declaration 2209 01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:14.159 of Independence and you know it's not even called that, 2210 01:57:14.399 --> 01:57:16.359 you know, so go in there and look at that 2211 01:57:16.439 --> 01:57:19.319 and see what's different on that that we've been you know, 2212 01:57:19.720 --> 01:57:22.239 we're used to saying. But go back to that, you 2213 01:57:22.279 --> 01:57:25.319 know that Ben Franklin and what happened there, what did 2214 01:57:25.359 --> 01:57:28.960 he actually do, you know, And how how cool George 2215 01:57:29.000 --> 01:57:32.319 Washington was and how he worked with what he had 2216 01:57:32.359 --> 01:57:36.399 to work with. He adapted and overcame and it really 2217 01:57:36.439 --> 01:57:40.079 had nothing to do with Milton. It had more with endurance, 2218 01:57:40.359 --> 01:57:45.079 belief and an idea that he just would not allow 2219 01:57:45.560 --> 01:57:49.079 to be killed and he you know, and it's amazing 2220 01:57:49.159 --> 01:57:51.079 to see what human beings can do. And I think 2221 01:57:51.119 --> 01:57:54.439 it's very hopeful. So that's what we're doing all summer. 2222 01:57:54.479 --> 01:57:56.560 We're having a blast with it. Come and come and 2223 01:57:56.560 --> 01:57:58.520 do it with us. A Journey through the Gate on 2224 01:57:58.600 --> 01:58:01.880 YouTube Sunday nights and Mondays with Steve. That's what I've 2225 01:58:01.880 --> 01:58:02.319 been doing. 2226 01:58:03.439 --> 01:58:07.039 I'm links in the notes here. Well on behalf of 2227 01:58:07.359 --> 01:58:10.279 Cisco and Lynn and myself. We'll see you a little 2228 01:58:10.359 --> 01:58:14.119 further on down the paranormal trail. Tell your animals way said. 2229 01:58:14.159 --> 01:58:15.920 Hi. Good night, everybody, good night. 2230 01:58:16.119 --> 01:58:24.720 I'm good humans. 2231 01:58:28.359 --> 01:58:32.520 Attention all ground zero fans. Aftermath dot Media is celebrating 2232 01:58:32.560 --> 01:58:35.800 our four year anniversary with a spectacular deal just for you. 2233 01:58:36.319 --> 01:58:38.920 For a limited time, you can get an Aftermath Premium 2234 01:58:39.039 --> 01:58:43.159 yearly subscription for only seventy nine dollars. That's right, just 2235 01:58:43.239 --> 01:58:46.079 seventy nine dollars for a full year of exclusive content, 2236 01:58:46.439 --> 01:58:50.479 ad free listening and premium features. 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