Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the show. I'm Martin Willasher, host
and we have a great guest. His name is Samuel
Chong and he's a great guy. He's an attorney, a translator,
lives in southern California. We're going to be talking about
some things that, you know, a book that's kind of controversial.
I'll be asking some questions and to get into that
a little later as we go along, a.
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Speaker 1: I just want to talk about a couple of things
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the show started about how many shows are out I've
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I don't know if that's true or not, but anyway,
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Speaker 1: So I want to thank everyone in chat, thank you
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We've had the Bob Blazar according to himself, and then
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I do appreciate that too. And again, like I said,
everyone that's listens to the show and supports the show
just by being here, I do appreciate you all. You know,
I think I've done enough talking tonight, and I'm here
to bring in my guests and Samuel, welcome.
Speaker 2: To the show.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: Martin, Yeah, and.
Speaker 1: You've done you know, you've been on ghost talking about
I know you're you.
Speaker 2: You were hooked up with a bit with Stephen.
Speaker 1: Bassett, who you and I were talking off here and
when no one else would come on my show, back
in twenty eleven to be my first guest. Stephen Bassett said, sure,
I'll do it. And uh, so I have a warm
spot in my heart for Stephen Bassett. So how did
you get connected to Stephen Bassett?
Speaker 4: I just sent him an email and also I made
him a few times at you contact in the Desert conference?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you also do you do things with
Danny Sheen or you're just you're just good friends with him.
Speaker 4: I was the intern when I was in law school
and I worked for him quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Oh is that right? Now?
Speaker 4: Is that?
Speaker 1: Is that how you get your interest in this topic
to begin with?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: First, I actually saw the the documentary of Stephen Greer
and I look at everyone and I saw this pretty
haired guy. Yes, and I think he would be a
very good bridge between the people who don't believe anything
about the UFOs and the people who do. So that's
why I contact the pain.
Speaker 2: Yes, he's a busy guy. H he has.
Speaker 1: He has done a lot to try to move the
needle in this and uh and I was kind of
surprised at one point when I saw that he and
you know, Steven Bassett sort of you know connected, and
you know I mean they both have. I think that's
great when that happens. I've talked to other people that
have different things like UFO detection. I said, well, why
don't you hook up with this guy and this guy
he's already doing that. And so I love when people,
you know, collaborate, and you know, it makes it makes
a lot of sense. Is more power and numbers, you know,
So it's it's it's good that, uh, that those two
are are working together basically exactly right.
Speaker 4: And they also is the international phenomenon too, So I'm
trying to reach everyone and then to also people in
different countries.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: So this is first someone that doesn't know where we're
talking about Danny. She and here, this is Danny right here.
So you can spot them a mile away, you know,
like a contact in the desert. I could see like
way off in the distance. Well there's Danny way over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But so anyway, basically you're here to talk about you
got involved in a very interesting book.
Speaker 3: How did that happen?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, in China, there was a period of
time which the government was open to allowing information about
UFOs or UAPs to be read by the people over there.
So there was a magazine called UFO Magazine in the
nineteen eighties and there was a new story saying that
there was a guy like an engineer or physicist, who
was taken by the Etis to their spacecraft and then
he was told that even though I instant led the
three fundamental principles of modern physics, he made a mystic
that resulted in us believing that we cannot travel faster
than speed up light. And I was thinking, if the
ETS can come and visit us, they must have advanced
technologies and knowledge. We can just learn from the ETS.
So in my subconscious mind, I was always looking for
books written by ET contactees after I came here. I
read a lot, but a lot of the books were
just seem to be like channel of information without foundations.
But this book Deuba Prophecy has specific verifiable facts that
I was able to verify and investigate later.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we should when we get into the different things,
the different claims, I would like to hear what you
you know, what you consider facts? What were you chase
this down?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: Did you use any of your law type you know,
a degree in learning to investigate these type of things.
I don't know exactly what type of law you actually practice.
Speaker 4: I do genuine practice, So.
Speaker 1: You do have you could have investigative skills you learned,
then basically.
Speaker 4: Yes, and if there's an interesting part in the book
that says the the author Michelle Demarque, asks the ITTs
to give him a medal, a proof, so that he
can show us, show people on Earth that he really
did have this experience. And by the way, this book
talks about his journey nine day journey to a different
planet called Theopa and then came back. And then the
Etis refused to give him the medal because the ets
say that you people on Earth seek for proof, additional
proof and more proof. If I give you a medal,
then people are not going to believe you still because
they're going to say that you have some kind of
skills or through alchemy, you made this medal that doesn't
exist on Earth, so they really he actually used to
give him medal, but the etis refused. So I think
this is the state of world or that we are
in right now. People just want to seek come for proof.
But this book has a lot of proof that I
was able to verify. The book was reactually written in
nineteen eighty nine. He had an encounter in nineteen eighty
seven and the book got published in Australia in nineteen
ninety three, and I did some research internet went into
the homes of the people in Kings, Queensland, Australia in
the mid nineteen nineties. Years after he got a book published,
and years after he got a book written. But the
book talks about events and things that were later proven
and discovered to be true years after the book was published.
For example, when he entered into the spacecraft, the ets
used yellow light and bull leight to decease infecting and
years later Harvard Medical School has a research paper indicating
that certain wavelengths of blue light have anti bacterial entire
antibari effects, and years later there was also another pure
reviewed paper says that yellow light has anti bacterial effects.
And there are also facts in the book that says
that there are et basis and as far as as
the Moon and explains why there artificial structures, and also
talks about the life on Mars by one point three
five million years ago, explains why that Mars has become
a desert planet and why it is not a good
idea for us Magrit to Mars because actually we all
came from different planets, and because the planets kind of
have All planets have a lifetime. When the core of
the planet dies down or cools down, then and the
planet doesn't have the electromagnetic force to capture the atmosphere anymore,
so the planet becomes like a desert like Mars. So
people have to migrate to different planets over time in
order to survive as species. And the book also has
other interesting facts such as the Great Pyramid of Egypt,
how it was built and why it was built and
things like this. I think the book has a lot
of interesting details that deserve special attention.
Speaker 1: Well, okay, and so this I'm a little bit confused.
Did you say that the the metal he refused to
take the metal?
Speaker 2: Did you say that?
Speaker 4: No? I mean he asked for a metal that doesn't exist,
but it just refused to be between him.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, all right?
Speaker 1: So but so what's basically convincing about that to you?
I mean, why, why why need take that? And you
just think that he did he say that? There's you know,
people won't believe that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the etis say that even if they give him
like a medal that doesn't exist on Earth. People still
wouldn't believe him because there are always skeptical people who
would say that, oh, you are a smart person with
the knowledge of alchemy, and you produce this metal on
Earth just to uh presume that you got it from
the etis. People are not going to believe you either way.
So what's the purpose? What's the used to give you
a medal? So this is what's gets interesting that the
book contains a lot of very detail like like other
interesting details like or as human energy feels the missing
for one cases by a private investigator investigator called the
Dila politis explaining why people just can't vanish in the
national parks in the US and Canada. At the same
time also explaining why if you observe the sky, you're
going to see us. The UAPs frequently frequently appear at
the specific location in the sky. This is because the
ets use what we would call portals or warves to
come in and get out of Earth, because they would
take advantage of parallel universe to hide themselves so that
we wouldn't be paranoid, or most people wouldn't be paranoid.
Speaker 1: Well, a question that I often ask in a situation
like this, is what would make in your opinion or
your research that you've done, what would make us so special?
If there are say tens of thousands of intelligent species
throughout the universe, or millions or hundreds of millions or
even billions of intelligence species, why would we be so
special that we'd have portals here and we have you
know them coming here, all these different aliens coming here.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just just for your opinion, we are.
Speaker 4: Actually not very special. There are hundreds of it species
just in our Milky Way galaxy, and we are actually
not very advanced. Sorry to say that, but we live
on very primitive planet. Saying that, I mean like we
are living on a category one planet, and there are
total of different categories of planets, total of nine different categories.
And they come to visit us, I mean some of
them come. According to the book the Theubans come to
help us and to give us a nutch to really
live more spiritually. They actually have visited us in the
ancient past, as documented in the stories as recorded in
the Bible, the Old Testaments as well as a New Testament.
And also according to them, there are other ET's who
are not so advanced, such as the ones whose spacecraft
crashed on Earth, that the US government has been involved
in reverse engineering the technologies of the ones that crashed
on Earth. I mean, I would say that we should
focus our attention on the ones who did not and
will never cry on Earth, the more advanced etis who
have been helping us and leading us to the right direction,
because I truly believe that we should learn from the masters,
not from the ones who spacecraft crashed on Earth. And
I think the Chinese are really smart on.
Speaker 1: That about that well, you know, I mean, we have
to get through our bottleneck of technology and develop as
a species without wiping ourselves out. And right now we
have this AI situation and advocates to superior intelligence, you know,
above human intelligence. You know, we're not going to to
be able to control it. They already are talking about,
you know, some of these AI programs, they don't even
know how they work, and they're continuing to kind of
build on themselves. And it's all it's not hu, you know,
like the zeros and twos, it's all numbers, it's all
work off of that. But it's becoming unpredictable. So what
I'm saying is we have to get right now. I
think we have more of an issue with getting through
the AI technology and agi uh and to move forward
because if that gets out of control, then you know,
you know, we're going to need intervention from another species
to survive.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 4: Yes, the etes actually warned us about technology. It talks
about technology is leading us into a more materialistic world
rather than more spiritual world. Is suggesting that technology can
be a double h sword. We should use technology to
promote spiritual to you or to live more spiritual life
instead of being restrained into this kind of materialistic wealth
accumulation world. So I think the ETS have been warning
us about the dangers facing us in the future. And
he actually talks about the four real dangerous on Earth.
Number one money, number two politicians, number three journalists and drugs,
and number four religions religions plural.
Speaker 1: Those are the stumbling blocks.
Speaker 3: Is that what you're saying? What are the four you
just mentioned there?
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, we all know the dangers of most of
the things that the ETS have been warning us. And actually,
I would compare this book to be the modern version
of the Book of Enoch because if you read the Bible,
you will know that Enoch was taken by gods or
the Jehovahs. The pronunciation of Jehovah or the oven we
speak it in French, it will be Jehovah. It's very
similar to the pronunciation of Jehovah. So when when Enoch
was taken away by the Jehovahs and he and and
there's a book of Enoch, and forty or eighty years
after his great grandson Noah was told to build arc
and Michelle de Marquay was taken by the Ets in
nineteen eighty seven, and you can imagine what's going to
happen forty or eighty years after. So so we are
at a very critical moment of time and we have
to make the right choices. And the ETS are telling
us that we should focus more on the spiritual development.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean if we don't, you know, if we
don't develop in that.
Speaker 1: Way, then we we You're right, I mean as far
as if we don't develop in a more of a
spiritual way and you know, do unto others type of situation,
you know, then uh yeah, I mean it's we can
see that the friction in the world and you know,
I have a number of people that will uh send
me an email saying, you know, I love your show.
It keeps me from looking at what's happening in the
world today. So I'm glad I can at least do
that and talk about you know, this this uh you
know topic, because it's fascinating and it is something that
we you know, we really haven't solved yet, and you know,
it's it's really interesting just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 4: Basically, Yes, more amazingly, the book actually talks about how
our world was created and where we all came from.
It also after yourself. An interesting question that in my
mind was that where the eat is also created by
the Creator, And the answer is yes. So when the Creator,
which is a pure spirit some people would call the
Creator God or the great Ether. When the Creator created everything,
it created the stars, the planets, animals, plants, human beings,
as well as the eties on different planets. But for
human beings that eies. We are special because when the
Creator created every well of us, it actually inserted the
tiny portion of itself to each one of our astro bodies.
So we don't just have our physical body, we also
have our astral bodies, and the Creator wants to experience
everything that we experience. So we are part of the Creator,
and the Creator is part of us. So we are spiritual.
We are actually physical beings having a spiritual experience experience
and spiritual beings having a physical experience. So in other words,
we have to send constant feedback to the Creator through
our experiences. And it really depends how we respond to
the challenges we face in our lifetime in order to
progress and to grow more spiritually.
Speaker 2: And how does one.
Speaker 1: Get out of the technology focus and the materialism focus
and change on a personal level, because you know, I
mean the old saying, you know, the money is the
root of all evil, or lack of money is the
root of all evil, whatever the saying is. You know,
I was talking earlier a few minutes ago about AI
and the direction that's going, the scary direction that's going in.
There's great new podcasts out there. I'd like for people
to check out if you have an interest in that,
and it's called The Last Invention, and so check that
out if you can.
Speaker 3: It's great. So, but.
Speaker 1: The threat of one of the threats of AI is
that there's going to be so much power in so
few very wealthy hands and because of those people are
dumping I think it's over trillion dollars in AI and
and you know that a lot of jobs are going
to go away, and so these people will be in control,
a lot of people will be in I mean, a
few people will be in control of the masses. And
that's scary to me. I don't want to focus on
that at all, But I'm just wondering how do we
get through the how can we get to the point
where there can be more spirituality and more brotherhood and
less materialism and greed for money.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we should be spiritual but non religious.
We should follow the teachings of Christ rather than the
doctrines of the Church. So I think I mean, for
people in the Western world, if they know the Bible,
just follow what the Moses or Jesus Christ taught us.
The Ten Commendments is it's actually very good principle of
how we live our lives. And also the teachings of
Christ to love on another. And those are these spiritual
lessons that the masters have taught us or taught us
in the past. And I think if you really read
the Bible, you're going to wonder like who really parted
the sea for Moses leading the Hebrews out of Egypt
and giving them the Ten Commandments and then especially parting
the sea of Greece and also giving them manas to eat,
like it's just like the Catholic people believe that the God,
the Creator doesn't have a face and no one has
seen God. But who are the angels or the people
who appeared in front of Moses? And those are actually
explained in the book the Yobah Prophecy and who was
really Jesus and Christ? So that book actually explains everything.
So we should follow the principles and the teachings of
the spiritual masters, including and Christ. And for people in
China they can focus more on the teachings of Dollism
or loves. For people in India, they can just meditate and
meditate and also become more spiritual like the u Gis.
And I think the book teaches us that if you
really want to elevate yourself, you should meditate and concentrate
and actually this is the way to really develop develop
your spirituality and psychic abilities as well. And the book
talks us at length and regarding how the echs performed
psychic ability such as levitation, manifesting or materializing objects, communicating
through telepathy, and also giving all the diseases you can
think of. And the echis actually are so advanced that
they don't need to eat for forty eight hours and
they're able to create adult human being in twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: Now, then is that in that book case that you're
saying it is? Yeah, yeah, that's interesting claims.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: Here's a question I'm going to have. Anyone that wants
to pose a question, please put in caps like Christopher.
I'll get to your question in just a minute. But
how are number three journalists and drugs a threat? Can
you be more specific?
Speaker 4: So? We live in a world to experience and to
improve our spirituality, and the psyche becomes very important and
how you feel certain things. If journalists want to or
the media company want to make money, they will tend
to report on the negative news, the sensational news. Absolutely, yeah,
the clients and those are the tyrants to attract readers.
But those things are not good for psyche and and
I think people should focus more on the good news.
There is a website called a good News Network.
Speaker 1: Yes, my blogger Charles Lear told me about that sent
me the link. The Good News Work Network every day
has great stories. So if you if you want to
turn away from the news, check that out.
Speaker 3: But anyway, yes, go ahead.
Speaker 4: And the importance of the psyche is that the psyche
or mindset affects the chakras, and the chakras affect our
ores and the areas affect our physical body. And if
you keep your mindset positive or correct, then you're going
to eat in a sense improve your physical health. So
that's about journalism or journalists. And about the drugs, the
author meant halosogenic drugs, and I know a lot of
people who are in the spiritual world want to experience
you seeing halosogenic materials of herbs to do that MM.
But the book, I mean the ities warn us that
if you use that, in essence, they're actually moving your
astual body into a place in which it is not
supposed to be and to give you like a false
paradigm to experience. You can meditate and experience the spiritual
world naturally and more organically. If you use drugs, then
it's probably going to damage your ask your body, and
I actually try to prove it by asking our readers
people who can see the colors of ours and to
see if using drugs would affect their ours. And the
answer is positive, yes. Not only do they affect the ours,
they're actually going to make the ours look very muddy
and ugly and it's going to take a long time
for them to repair. And a few things would affect
the ores halocogenic drugs, alcohol and cigarettes, and also noise
to a certain stent.
Speaker 3: Very interesting.
Speaker 1: Here's another question here, do you think it's likely that
ET's artificial intelligence and is able to communicate communicate directly
with our intelligence artificial intelligence? And if so, what are
they talking about the Yeah.
Speaker 4: So the ets don't really have artificial intelligence because there's
no need to. They're able to really kind of download
information from each other without any kind of physical media.
So Michelle, when he was on a planet Fuba, he
actually saw the theub and that etis downloading information from
each other, so there's no need to remember anything. They
just get information from others. So there's no artificial intelligence
on a planet Theova. We have artifudual intelligence on Earth
because we don't have these psychic abilities to get information
from one another, at least most people don't. But some
people do, and I know some of them because they
practice meditation. So I think this is a very interesting question.
Speaker 1: So if some of the readers find this particular book
you're talking about, you know, the ideas uplifting, and some
of them may see this as like an imaginative of fiction.
But how do you respond to people say that there's
no proof or even that parts of the book you know,
are outdated or problematic.
Speaker 4: Well, actually the book talks about other other things that
were later proven to be true years after it was published.
For example, the author lived in Paines, Queensland, Australia, and
then before he went to the planet Theoba, he never
traveled to Japan. But I would guarantee that very few
people know about that there's a tomb of Jesus in
Shingo Village, Japan. You can look it up nowadare's on internet,
but back then, in nineteen eighty three or before that,
very little people, very few people knew about this, and
the book describes what the tomb looks like in details.
How could the author have have known this if he
never traveled to Japan. I mean, this book has a
lot of information that is so specific that I sometimes
wonder like if people really want to take the time
to do additional research. And it actually explains why there's
no record of Jesus in the Bible performing miracles before
he beat preaching, and why some people say that Jesus
went to India, and why suddenly after Christ began preaching,
when he saw his mother, he didn't call her mother,
he called her a woman. And also why Jewish people
excel at everything that they do. For example, Jewish people
account only for about the zero point two percent of
world population, but twenty two percent noble prize winners are
Jewish people, and it's just disproportionately like represented. And I
think and this book actually explains why that's the case
and why the Hebrews were the chosen people. Very reasonable explanations,
and I think if you're really read into the book,
you're going to uncover a lot of the mysteries that
people have been wondering about. So I'm a lawyer and
also a cervicord interpreter, I know by the person center
of population, like, Jewish people are far more represented in
the professional industries such as lawyers, attorneys, or doctors or scientists.
And also even some of the well known artists and
writers are Jewish people. Why they excel at everything they do?
There's an explanation. There's a reason for that, and the
book talks about.
Speaker 2: It, and can you give us a nutshell answer?
Speaker 4: Why I would live it to the readers. I you know,
I try to explain, but I think sometimes because my
first language is not English, my language ability fails me.
I would suggest people to read about it. It actually
involves where we all came from. Originally, we all came
from different planets. The Blacks and the Yellows came from
a planet, and the Caucasians came from different planet. The
ancestor yourself, the Polynesians came from a different planet. And
the book folks about ancient civilizations and also where the
Hebrews came from, and is a book that really answers
a lot of the paranormals and mysteries in the world.
Speaker 1: It's funny when I I don't think I've ever told
this story before, but but when I was in high school,
I wrote an essay basically saying that that. And I
wasn't even into the UFO topic or anything, but I
was explaining the reason that we have all the different
races all over the world. Is that we were basically
seeded from different planets. And I actually got an a
on the you know, it was I try to make it,
you know, sort of like a story, and you know,
but that was a long time ago, and but it
was kind of you know, it's kind of interesting to
hear you say that when that was, you know, something
one of the few age that I got in that
particular with that particular teacher.
Speaker 4: That's true, because we do. We did come from different
planets originally, and there is actually proof on that. The
proof is that when you look at Mars, there are
artificial structures and people used to live on Mars. There
were people who used to live on Mars. And because
the planet, the core of the planet cools down, and
that's why we have to migrate to a different planet.
So this is the reason why the blacks and yellows
migrate to Earth, a younger planet, because the planet has
its longevity and when the planet becomes like a desert,
we have to migrate to a younger and newer planet
before it becomes a desert. So this is why we
are actually seated from different planets. You're absolutely right.
Speaker 1: On that, Okay, So Hey, thank you Christopher Alexander for
being here.
Speaker 2: So, you know, there's the thoughts on this. You know,
they're not for everyone.
Speaker 1: I totally understand that, and but you know, I'm as
I mentioned before, I'm listening to this. I'll let you,
the listener, make up your mind how you think about these.
So the one thing I thought was kind of interesting,
or one of the things I should say that I
thought was kind of interesting, is the the the time
element in this, like there's and the reason I'm interested
in that is because of the manipulation of time. Is
what a lot of people feel that they when they're
having an encounter, they feel as though time has changed,
there's something different about it. And I've talked to a
lot of people that do you know, have that have
that idea, you know, like everything someone described it once
as being in the matrix or everything kind of slows
down like that, you know, But there's some type of
it would explain how they get here in some type
of time manipulation, time warping or uh you know space
space time warpage or something like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they take advantage of the warps or portals
to come to Earth. Once they're in the portal or warp,
time stops. So this is how the Eaties explain this,
that their natural portals. It's like a natural phenomenon in
different locations in space on Earth, not just a Permeter triangle,
not just the clusters in which people just gonna vanish
as documented by David Poladus, not just the parts in
Asia or Europe. It actually existed as ribbons on Earth
like they float around in space. But once they're set
into the portals, time stops. And they're corporating evidence by
div applights because he documented a lot of the people
who just got vanished and then came back, and then
they seemed to they seemed to remember some of the
things that happened while they were missing, but then there
was no loss of time. And there's actually an interesting
case in Europe in which a five year old girl
who just fanished in a forest, and then years later
when she reappeared, there was no lot of no loss
of time because I think she was set into the
parallel universe. And the Echis take advantage of that by
having Michelle Demurquay to come into the parallel universe first
and then to go into their spacecraft and then they
departed and leaving the parallel universe. So if the Echis
take our people on Earth into their spacecraft in parallel universe,
there there wouldn't be any loss of tank and I
think that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Interesting question here, were Native Americans originating from Earth that
other races came from different planets. Well, I just have
a comment to say about that, because the Indigenous people
of the United States traces back to about morphologically about
fifteen thousand years possibly a land bridge from Siberia to
Alaska and could be Eastern Age and Asian East Asian
is what they have when they've done research on you know,
Native American peoples. So I don't know if that really
you know, I mean, it is interesting how you know,
the migrations have happened and the land masses have changed
and all that.
Speaker 3: But that's that's a whole different topic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, after the Native Americans came from continent that used
to exist in the Pacific Ocean called the Muria. So
back according to this book the Yoga Prophecy, back about
two hundred fifty thousand years ago, people from a different
planet came to Limuria and then but they encountered Chinese people.
The Chinese people were and are still very suspicious, so
they had a fight or war with the people from
the Muria, and being very spiritual people, the people from
the Muria did not want to fight and kill the
Chinese people, so they retreated back to the farther of
the moon and built artificial bases over there as transfer
stations so that they could migrate their people step by step,
little by little, and then so that's what they did.
So they established a very successful civilization on Limuria and
nowadays a part of Easter Island, I mean Easter Island
and also part of Hawaiian Islands are actually the remnants
of the continent of the Muria that some into the
ocean about fourteen five years ago. This actually explains why
the statues on Easter Island are so interesting. Even with
modern technologies, we are now able to duplicate the statues
or the stones on Easter Island. It also explains why
there are meganithic structures in Latin America and parts of
Asia in which no one can explain how they were built.
It also explains how the Great Pyramid was built because
the people on the Muria migrated or colonized another continent
called Atlantis, in which the Caucasians of white people landed on,
and then a very learned person called Thoughts, in which
the Egyptians considered to be got when in fact he
was a very wise and learned person, a human being
went to Egypt and build a great Pyramid of Egypt
about seventeen thousand years ago, using anti gravitational technologies as
well as supersonic vapid resystems to cut the huge stones
in a very precise manner. If you think about it,
if you can neutral as gravity using a specific kind
of vibrational frequency, you can make the huge stones become
willless without weight. And modernly, if you do research, you're
going to realize that certain engineering firms use of thesonic
techniques to cut certain materials. So this can be proven
using modern technologies. It's just that they haven't been using
this augosonic technology on huge stones. So there are things
making the book that are extremely interesting and revealing.
Speaker 1: You've getting back to You've said that China is learning
basically et technology is faster. So what data or examples
make you think that's happening in some type of measurable way.
Speaker 4: By China, I mean the Chinese people, not the government.
So we had to distinguish the two. So the Chinese
government is just like, oh, the governments sub verb, bureaucratic.
Especially in recent years, the Chinese government doesn't really want
people to talk about Ufosnichis or anything that's not in
their textbooks. So there's no freedom of speech in China.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I know.
Speaker 1: I had a Chinese correspondent, but he was actually a
professor at a college. He was American but living in China,
and he was a professor at a college there. And
his name was Mark Simma. And he was on this
show a number of times and talking about the relationship
between UFOs and the Chinese people, and then all of
a sudden he disappeared. His last post on the Facebook
page was talking about being on my show and then
and he disappeared. I've never been able to figure out
what happened.
Speaker 3: To him, Mark Simma, So anyway, but he.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, there's been a lot of controversy,
but some things have happened in China that were pretty interesting.
There was that major airport situation. I don't know if
you know anything about that, that was quite a while ago,
I think it was in the twenty fifteen or before.
Speaker 4: There are a lot of sightings in China, and also
in the nineteen nineties, the Chinese military was a higher
alert at the UAPs Un falls into the sky. They
were going to attack them. And then they actually sought
help from or informal help from euthologists in China, a
very famous one called the doctor Sushili, and he was
the Spanish interpreter for German mad in the past, and
he was fairly well known in China. But now this
he is not able to talk publicly publicly about the
UFOs in China anymore. Just like your your your friend
in China. So as a Chinese American, I'm able to
share information because I'm American considered by them. So so
I'm here in Los Angeles so I can talk about it,
but people in China cannot. They're not reported by the
Chinese government. But why I say that the Chinese people
are ahead of the Americans in learning each knowledge. By that,
I mean this book few that prophecy got into China
as a science fiction to get around the censorship in China.
So millions, millions of Chinese people have read this book
and are amazed by the information provided in the book.
So if you read into the book, you're going to
realize that the itchs are so advance there is there's
UFO or spacecraft did not and will never crash on Earth.
There are more advanced than the Grace, the ones who
spacecraft crashed on Earth, in which people's attention in the
US has been focusing on on the Grace and the
ones whose spacecraft crashed, And I think it's really a misdirection.
You are learning from the ones who failed on Earth.
You are not learning from the masters. So I'm trying
to encourage the US people, the people in the US
to really learn from the masters. So this is why
I've been putting a lot of my time. I'm actually
helping helping people here.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: And so you translated that you had that book translated
to Chinese?
Speaker 4: Yes, I did you in the can Chinese or mandory.
Speaker 2: Yes, uh huh.
Speaker 1: And uh so yeah, I've oh, hey Jack Ufo Jacks
in the chat.
Speaker 3: How you doing So?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: So that was quite an undertaking to do that, I imagine.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So, so when people want to talk about the
subject mantering in China, they have to get around it.
They have to use another premise to talk about this.
So so I hope it's going to open up a
sooner or later. And I think academic discussions are allowed,
but not something that would jeopardize the stability of the
Chinese government or the country.
Speaker 1: So that's what they perceive. It would jeopardize the Uh yeah,
how about that? And you know, I wonder how much
gets through. I don't know exactly how things worked. I
know there's a lot of things that are GEO protected.
You know, when I spent time in Russia, you know,
some shows you couldn't access on your computer American, you know,
so I know it's the same way in China, or
I do believe it is so, but you know, there's
a language barrier too. But still I noticed that it
was just a couple of days ago. I looked all
around the world. There's many many countries that listened to
the show. I was surprised that, you know, in Russia
and uh, Slovenia and all these But when it comes
to the content continent of China, zero zero are listening
to the show and UFOs and yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so YouTube and all the major Western portals or
social media websites are blocked in China. So China has
its own version of the social media like it has
its own version of YouTube and also Facebook. So if
you on look at your accounted to China, you have
to upload it onto the Chinese platforms, in which I'm
glad to help m H.
Speaker 1: And by the way, shout out to all the people
listening to Ukraine. There's a number of people that listen
in Ukraine, so I was I was glad to see that. Well,
this has been pretty interesting. So you know a lot
of people are may consider, you know, all of what
you're saying as fiction. So and I know you've said
there's cases that this book had talked about, and there
was the light you mentioned, there was a couple of
other things, So what are what are what makes you
think that he really did this travel instead of it
being a visionary thing.
Speaker 4: Because of the facts on details details contained in a
book that were later proven and verified. For example, he
talks about the ETS intervention during World War Two preventing
Germany from being the first country to develop the atomic bomb,
and a verify that doctor Heisenberg of Germany was far
more advanced and early in developing the atomic bomb than
the American scientists. But for some reason, strange reason, he
made a very stupid mistake, a miscalculation, and his report
was read by Hitler that made Fidler believe that Germany
didn't have enough raw materials to make the bomb. So
that's why the Americans got ahead and deployed above in
Japan and in the war, much earlier than eveld be otherwise.
So it is intervened in that sense. It also describes
in details who Jesus and Christ was. If you're read
into the book, you're going to realize that the Christ
indeed was crucified on the cross and then resurrected three
days after Why three days? This is a natural law
because when the well a person dies, the astrobody leaves
a physical body, and then there's a life reveal process.
Everything that a person did in his or her lifetime
will be shown to him or her holographically, just like
playing a film, and then the person will be able
to feel how others felt were experienced when certain actions
were done for others.
Speaker 3: So in a.
Speaker 4: Sense, there's an evaluation process, a judgment of its own,
of your own, and because you're part of the Creator,
and the Creator is part of you. In the essence
is the Creator will use yourself, dividing yourself how you
did in your lifetime, and then after three days, eighty
one percent of the electrons of the actual body will
go to the higher self and then the other nineteen
percent will remain in nature. This is why independent culture,
the corpse of the dead are not to be touched
for three days, and this is why Christ resurrected after
three days. So I think it's a.
Speaker 1: Different it's different in different cultures, but I see where
you're going. But listen, we only got two minutes left,
so I'm just going to throw this last question from
Alien Girls seventy seven. Are there any well known UFO
cases in China similar to cases like the Phoenix lights
or anything like that that you're aware of.
Speaker 4: There are so many sightings in China that are countless
recorded by the citizens in China. There are two very
famous IT contact cases in which in the nineteen nineties,
a person in northern northeastern part of China called mister
Mom was taken by the ITIS onto their spacecraft. Actually,
he had a lot of interesting experience in which he
was shown the natural resources of Earth, indicating that we
need to take care of an environment otherwise certain oils
of gasolines or gas nitro gas are going to be
depleted in a certain period of time. And then he
was told the reasons why they made the contact him
and where they came from. This is my interesting case.
And the other interesting case occurred in nineteen ninety nine.
A principle of a school, also a government official, was
taken by the ETS onto their spacecraft and then he
was taught to heal a person who was diseased, a
girl by putting his hand on the lower back of
the neck, and then he imitated and healed the girl.
And then he and then people studied him and researched
his encounters, and then he passed all. In both cases
they passed the Polo delight detector test and the psychological examinations.
So those are the true well known cases in China.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, So it's been a pleasure. Thank you
so much. I appreciate it. And thanks for being a guest.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Okay, already once so we have next week coming up.
We have Danielle Silverman on Tuesday night. We're going to
be talking about a past UFO researcher in England.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then we have Eric Mantel, who I got to
know this last year. Great guy. He's on Thursday night
at this time next week. And thank you all for
being here and remember to keep your eyes to the sky.
Speaker 4: H