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Speaker 3: All right, so let's get into some of the LSU discussion.
And look, we went over the old Miss game in
linked probably two and a half hours yesterday, but kind
of going back and still watching a little bit of
tape on this team, you gotta find some success in
the run game, but you also have to commit to
running the football, like right right now, like the thing
that you're doing with the difference in pass attempts and
rushing attempts, like it's got to get closer to each
other or you're just never going to have any success there.
But also in the run game, and so we talk
about that a lot here, and like what do we
mean by that, Well, like when you look at some
of the best teams in the country running the football,
Like if you go take a look at, give me
any offense that you think runs the football. Well, like
you could throw an offense out there, and I can
guarantee you in absolutes that when I go and I
look it up and I look at what runs they're running,
it's not going to be inside zone fifty seven percent
of the time. It's not going to be outside zone
fifty one percent of the time. It's going to be
inside zone, twenty outside zone thirty. Counter this percentage power,
this percentage, pull lead, this percentage because it's a diverse
run game. It's got diversity in the run game. Everything
is available and they can find different ways to get
to it. And honestly, like you look at a Tennessee,
you look at an Old miss they can do it
out of eleven personnel. So they can do it out
of what is typically you know, you kind of consider
being a passing type personnel offense and eleven person having
won back and one tight end and three receivers. But no,
they just there's a full buy in from the receivers,
from that tight end, whoever's on the field, that we're
gonna be able to run whatever run that we want to.
We're not going to fall into tendencies. And look, it's
okay if you want to line up. We talked about
it yesterday. Your biggest run of the year, your longest
run of the year, you lined up with a fullback
and a tight end in the backfield and you ran
it around the corner, around the edge for fifty one yards.
It's okay to line up and do that sometimes and
then guess what, Matt After you do that, then after
about the fourth time, you can have a heavy play
action tight end delay come across the formation and he
might be the one that's wide open, like we saw
against soul Miss this past weekend.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that means your quarterback has got to touch the
centers butt. I means you can't do a clap count.
Got to get into the center. Every once in a
while when defenses recruit personnel to stop shotgun offenses, and
and then you have to line up. You got to
figure something else out. Yeah, you know, football is full
of ebbs and flows. There's reaction to everything. It's a
reaction type world.
Speaker 2: Right. You can be as proactive as you want, but
it's a reaction type world.
Speaker 4: Defensive see, Okay, there's a lot of shotguns, there's a
lot of zone reads, there's a lot of slowly developing
running plays out of shotgun. So let's get faster guys
on the defensive line. Okay, well, all right, A couple
of years later, people are going underneath the center. They're
running full back again, they're running two tight ends. They're
bullying us because we got faster on the defensive line. Okay,
let's bulk up our defensive line. Okay, so you get it.
It's cyclical, right, it goes up and down. Defenses and
personnel decisions are always reactive to something that's a weakness.
But you got to create that weakness and we're not
doing that. But like when you talk about like committing
to the run, what does that mean to me? When
I think about that, it can mean a lot of
different things a lot of different people. But to me,
it means we're going to commit to the run and
run it even if there's a non advantageous count in
the box. What's the box again? The tackle box, how
many people are down near around the line of scrimmage.
So sometimes when you have a running play in like
eleven personnel and you have six people blocking, that'd be
the five offensive lineman and a tight end or you know,
if you want to throw full back, whatever it is,
if you have those people blocking. Like a lot of
times in an RPO system, we are automatically taught to
throw it if there's seven people in the box because
that's a numbers advantage defense, right, and it should be
a numbers advantage in the past. But my argument would
be we're relying on that too much now Again, I
don't know if those are the rules. I don't know
if they're counting six seven man boxes, whatever it is.
I'm just telling you my history and all the many
mini offenses that I ran. It's all right, six it's
a six man blocking scheme. Run seven in the box,
we gotta get out of it, or seven in the
box you gotta throw an RBO or offensive line coach
this week, I don't care if it's a seven man box,
We're gonna run it because it's still gonna be three
to four yards. I think we have an advantage there
we have to commit to this run because we're trying
to set up other things in the offense. We're not
just gonna throw a bubble screen behind a lot of
scrimmage because there's an extra safety in the box. I
don't care about that extra safety. So you have to
commit in that way. And so also we saw I
saw a lot of clips what Ole Miss was doing
to us in the run game, in our inside run game.
When defenses are getting hit with the inside zone, it's
they start playing games, yep.
Speaker 2: In the defensive front, which shoes offensive line is not
handle games.
Speaker 4: Well, so let's just take a let's just like, let's
paint a picture of a right side of offensive line.
You have a right guard and the right tackle. You
have a defensive tackle over the right guard. You have
a defensive end over the right tackle. So if that
defensive end and a game a game to us as
a looper, so defensive end will go left, defensive that
will go right. Switch and they're trying to get the
offensive line confused on who's blocking who, and they attack
the gaps that way. So in stopping a zone type
running game, you want your defensive line moving laterally. You
don't want to moving up the field because that creates gaps.
You want to moving latterly to close those gaps down
and make it hard for a running back to read.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're gonna say everything got messy.
Speaker 4: So what you do, like what they try to do
is the end, the defensive tackle who's over the guard
is going to go and hit the right tackle because
the right tackle thinks he's blocking the defensive end because
he's lined up over him. Well, all of a sudden,
he gets hit from the side by the defensive tackle.
What does that do when he when the defensive tackle
goes out, that guard chases him and then again then
you have a defensive end looping over the top, looping
over the side, replacing where that right guard went to.
So like it creates confusion that way, So how do
you fix that? You have to take that option of
the right guard and right tackle for the offense of
getting confused like that, you have to come back and
hit him with a counterplay. Yeah, somebody pulling from the
other side of tight end pulling where that right side
the line can just wash everything down, Like take the
zone principle out of it. For a couple of plays
here and there, and let them just wash it. What
does that do to the When the defensive coordinator gets
to the sideline and says, all right, they're running counter
right now, they're running power and our games aren't working
because they're just washing it down and they're having a
puller come around to lead the to lead the running back.
Speaker 2: What does that do well? It takes the option of.
Speaker 4: Running games away for the defensive line and then you
can get back to the zone. Now it's a guessing
game at that point there. If the defensive couardator thinks, like,
all right, I think they're gonna run zone here, even
though they've shown a couple of counters or a couple
of powers or whatever, I think I'm still gonna call
these games because I'm just gonna guess that they're gonna
run a zone. You're gonna get that, and they're gonna
defense is gonna win some offensive win some there. But
when you get a team that's like running games every time,
it's a running down a distance like it's an issue.
You can't it's hard to run zone. It's impossible. I
don't I can't pull up the film right now, but
I could show you the film of like how how
impossible it is for right guard right tackle to block
an inside like a simple inside zone ut when they're
running games.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so you got to wash it down. You
got to take that option away.
Speaker 4: So it's kind of like if you're a defensive coordinator
and you want to stack the box and run Manda Man. Well,
we're gonna run Manda ma until you beat us. Then
once you do start to beat them, they get out
Amanda Man. Right, So we're gonna run games until you
until you show they're gonna.
Speaker 3: Be something different. Yeah. Uh as somebody was asking inside
to buy you four chap. Else she's running one hundred
and forty two run plays this year. Gap scheme. They've
run ten counters. So one hundred and forty two runs
ten counters. That is seven percent of your runs. Anybody
in the room want to take a guess.
Speaker 2: How many powers? Right?
Speaker 3: So we talk about power all time. It's a gap
to expand for the running back. You got to guard
pulling around. It's down, down and around. Kind of a
gap scheme. Obviously, if you if you watch football for
any length of time, you certainly know what a power is.
It was our lead run in two thousand and seven.
Anybody want to get how many powers LSU football is
run in this year twenty twenty five?
Speaker 2: Eight? Okay, Elandra, I was.
Speaker 5: Gonna say five.
Speaker 4: Okay, I was gonna go, Hey, I'll go seven. But
I was gonna keep around that five percent.
Speaker 6: More zero, not a one, it seems low, not a one.
Speaker 3: One hundred and forty two runs outside zone fifty two
inside zone thirty one, some sort of a man's scheme,
probably some duo thirty three, ten counters, one draw and
counter number it needs to get up five quarterback sneaks,
and three trick plays. Now, I would argue for the
total he said one forty two for the season, I
would argue that there's probably been closer to one hundred
and eighty hundred and ninety called maybe last maybe one
hundred and seventy called. It's just we've just thrown our
pos behind it. Yeah, for not much success probably.
Speaker 2: But like.
Speaker 3: So, I'm gonna give you a little bit of a breakdown,
all right, So you heard that breakdown there, and I'll
go back to one of the points I was talking about,
like teams that are running the football really well, the
diversity in the run game. I'm trying to see where
they're ranked. I believe Missouri is third in the country,
So Navy's number one service academy. They do what they do,
they do great, But I'm taking them out of this
conversation because that's the obvious. So Florida State would be one,
Missouri would be two. All right, let's see what Missouri's
breakdown is. Uh, two hundred and twenty four runs. They
have run outside zone thirty three percent of the time,
inside zone twenty two percent of the time, duoh twenty
five percent of the time, counter ten percent of the time.
You see the diversity there. You see how it's spread
amongst four different runs.
Speaker 2: See that, Huh.
Speaker 3: And they've also run five percent of time a pool lead.
So like even that right that that brings something else
to them. They're spreading the ball in different ways depending
on what the defense is giving them. Like Matt said,
if they know you're only going to run certain type
of runs, well they are going to have those games.
And it is going to be so cloudy for a
running back right on a zone run. If it's cloudy
like that, well, I've got a couple of keys that
I'm watching, right. You read the down line and you
read the three technique. If you're running a zone, it's like, well,
if they're running those games and you're not stopping the
game before it happens, I as a runner, I don't
really know what to do because you never really want
to bounce an inside zone outside unless it's just clear
and obvious.
Speaker 4: Well, it was like it's one of those things that
coaches like, if you bounce it outside, you better be right.
Speaker 3: Yes, you better be right. And a lot of times
the zone's going to hit backside. But again, if you've
got a game on the backside and it's not a
clear picture to you. So my big thing that I
want to see is diversity in the run game. And
also like if you just want to line up, get
under center and do something a little bit different, like
that's okay as well, and you have to play to.
Speaker 2: The strings of your backs.
Speaker 3: I got like, I'm not there every day to know
the personnel and what they run better, right, that is
on the coaches, they know if they run this, play better,
that play better, if it's inside outside zone, if it's power,
if it's counter, whatever it might be.
Speaker 2: But again, I'll go back to it.
Speaker 3: The one run you had of fifty plus yards this
year was something that you've never gone back to.
Speaker 4: He and I hear. I can hear what you're saying.
When it's like, we're not in the building. Of course
we're not. We don't know the strengths and necessarily of
the weaknesses, like like the people in the building every day.
Obviously we're not part of the team. We're not part
of like that what's happening. So but I can tell
you if it's like, we're not gonna run power because
we don't think that a pulling guard is a strength.
Personnel wise, it's not going to be any weaker than
the inside zone game right now. It's not gonna it's
not gonna regress anything. If anything, it would help you
by just added, Okay, maybe it's not like based on
what you saw in spring, based on what you saw
in training camp, man that of the of the five concepts,
we think we might want to run this this year
in our running game as like, our base power is
the worst. So let's not focus on that, Okay, let's
focus on getting better.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 4: That's a that it's a perfectly reasonable thought process, I guess.
But at some point you got to say it's not good,
So like now we got to be creative.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Matt, Matt said it three times, and I'm
just gonna continue to harp on it as well.
Speaker 2: Call a run, what do you mean by that? Call
a run? Call a run running, don't call it an
r P O. Don't do that because then you give
the option to throw. And so you're telling your offensive
line they can't be aggressive. You're telling them they can't
go down the field right now because it will be
a penalty, right, so they have to wait a count
and then go like on a combo block.
Speaker 3: I've got to wait to count. Man, I don't know
that I could have gotten that done. I'm gonna be
honest with you. Call or run to call a run. Hey,
we're running inside zone?
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the rp of No, no RPO, Nope, nope,
We're just gonna fire off the football and we're gonna
run the football. Yep.
Speaker 4: Take And there's running plays you can do power counter
like every play has calls that the offensive line.
Speaker 2: Offensive line is community.
Speaker 4: It's not just like as simple ar We're gonna line
up and just everyone's gonna run forward as fast as
they can, like a like a brick wall. We're gonna
hold hands like it's red rover and just like go
push everyone down the field. Like there's calls that you
got to make depending on the defensive front, depending on
the linebackers alignment, which safeties on which side are coming
down into the box. So like the same running play
might not look might not be blocked up the same
way twice and again. So there's communication that is happening.
And a lot of times when I'm seeing a lot
of these running plays, it looks like there is some
confusion on the calls a little bit maybe, or some
hesitation to really trust the call from the guy next
to him, Like an I might be going to the left,
I mna be eyeballing like somebody I shouldn't before I.
Speaker 2: Get Oh, eye violations for sure, eye.
Speaker 4: Violations for sure. That's great. I hadn't heard the word
I violation a while. But like good, good pull right there.
But a lot that's what I'm talking about when you
when I'm sitting, when I talk about washing down a
defensive line, there's not a whole lot of calls there.
It's like we're gonna wash it down, and our pullers
are the ones that have to sort things out. They
got to take the most dangerous person first, second, most
dangerous person second, they got to read all that.
Speaker 3: So because with a puller, sometimes like if a guy
is just trying to he's adamant on just going inside
the puller, the puller can pass him up and the
running back can follow him outside. Sometimes you don't even
have to touch him if you have that situation.
Speaker 4: And he become if you're struggling, the running backs are
struggling seeing seeing openings in the zone game. When with
following lead pullers, it's more instinctual. Yeah, So like lead pullers,
they just go and they throw. They can miss a block,
missing a block on it as a pullers, okay, right,
because at least you know which way he missed. He
missed outside of the pullar missed inside. I can know
which way to instinctually to run and the hit the hole.
So I don't know, there's different things you can do.
I think, just like Jake said, call a running play,
don't call an RPO. Get something that it's like, all right,
we're gonna do We're gonna wash the signlight of the
offense on the side of the defensive line down we're
gonna have pullers coming across left tackle. We're just gonna
get up and call something that they can line up,
stick their hand in the dirt and go kick somebody's ass.
Speaker 2: So that's what they got to call. And let's stop
thinking about it at a little so much.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this before we take a break.
If you are adamant on giving your quarterback an option
through the air on these run plays, now again, I
just want to line up and I would want to
call a run.
Speaker 2: I'd want to know it.
Speaker 3: If I'm a blocker, I want to know that I
can be aggressive and I can fire out. If you
are adamant or running a run pass option, why wouldn't
you just tell the slot to bubble and that way
I thowt it behind the line of scrimmage. In that way,
the offensive line can still be aggressive because then you
can't be called for going down the field. I still
have the option to throw the bubble. It's a backwards
pass and then we can say, okay, well, lineman, it
doesn't change anything for you. If that's if you want
to tag something with every run. If that's your philosophy
and that's who you are, there's still ways to do
it where your line can be aggressive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think we saw that a little bit
more this past week. Most a lot of the RPOs
was behind the line of scrimmage, like little pop passes,
like wide receiver screens basically, which is better than running
a three step concept behind it, because a three step
concept is like, it's not a right now throw. It's
like a three step concept is you're reading like one
defender to throw to two different potential two different receivers.
So it's a little bit of reading. I think this
past week for that philosophy is a little bit better.
I just haven't We've seen it every level of football.
How many people, how many wide receivers can hold up
on a one on one block on a press corner
with the wide receivers, how many times we see it
get blown up in every single every single level of football.
I would say over fifty percent of the time, those
players don't get in the yards or maybe they get
a yard. So I'd rather not take that chance and
get that one or two, maybe three ugly yards in
the running game against a non advantageous box and having
to throw a behind the line of scrimmage wide receiver
pop pass to the wide side of the field in college,
which the hashmarks are way wider than in the NFL,
So it's a way longer throw to the white side
of the field. The balls in the air a lot
longer wide. Receiver's got to hold a block. That's impossible
up for a long book. And I talked about it yesterday.
It's like you're really trying to get a holding call too.
The more you do that, you're going to get a hold.
Speaker 2: Got one last week on the.
Speaker 4: Edge anyhow, And I digress outside of that. So yeah,
just run the ball, run calls, run place full back
under the center, but that I don't get that quarterback
to touch the centers.
Speaker 2: But how's a clop cop? You know it's bad. You
know it's bad. When Flynn is finally giving himself over
to having a fullback, it's good. Things are getting rough,
all right.
Speaker 3: We'll take a break more OTB when we come back here.
Let's get to little OTB mailbags. So go ahead and
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to get to as many as we can here in
the next couple of segments, and we'll do it.
Speaker 2: Right here on otb off the bench. All right, after
that conversation, let's go for dose. Drink some bear, have
a little ice cold dose Sekies.
Speaker 3: No, don't have a tailgate this weekend, but uh, you're
gonna be watching college football. You're gonna be enjoying some
of those good games. You got a couple of marquee matchups.
Speaker 2: Let's see if.
Speaker 3: Vandy can do it two years in a row against Alabama.
Let's see if Florida State can bounce back against Miami.
Speaker 2: So kick your feet up a little stress free weekend.
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Speaker 4: Hey, we still have the Saints, right so no matter
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of candy should I get to hand out for Halloween?
Speaker 2: This year?
Speaker 7: Snickers full sized candy bars will be the most popular.
Speaker 2: Guys, Yeah you balling? Huh?
Speaker 4: Like that?
Speaker 2: Well these producers made I'll tell you what. The the
nerd clusters that are pretty good. Sour patches are good
with a lot of people. Like I love candy. It's
like candy and stuff like that's my weakness.
Speaker 5: Like the stuff you can't do it anymore.
Speaker 4: Also of good, like the Welch's gummies. I feel like
respectable too.
Speaker 2: It didn't you know members love Welch's Gummies. Good. It's
just good too. I will say I love every candy
except Almond Joys.
Speaker 5: I actually kind of like them.
Speaker 3: I don't like coconut like well in candy like I
can do other coconut things, but I don't either.
Speaker 2: Butting up, it's too gritty. I didn't I didn't.
Speaker 7: Think I was gonna do a uh anti almond joy
thing here. Almond joy and mounds, right, same thing. Yeah,
the one with the mountains is not called ments. The
one with the two little lumps is almond joint mountains
is the flat one?
Speaker 2: Interesting?
Speaker 3: Why I don't know the fact that you know that
that's deep detail there. They're both bad. So I don't
mean candy corn, yes or no?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely fine. I just crushed the fag.
Speaker 4: So I want to bring when we get close to
Holle and I want to bring some candy corn in here.
I just saw something blue in my end of the day. Okay,
why it's called candy corn? Y'all might know this, Okay,
I don't. I'm not gonna tell you. I'm gonna I'm
gonna tease it for next month, for the later.
Speaker 5: This is like when you told me and Jake that
riddle and you didn't even know the answer to. It
looks like a corn kernel.
Speaker 2: It kind of looks like a corn kernel, but if
you stack it the proper way, you can actually make
a corn corn on the cob or whatever. It looks
just like it. It's wild at that time. On your hands,
you got more than I do. I'm gonna bring him
in here. We'll just stack it there in the show.
Hashtag go to be mail bag. How big of them
is was it to play nuts in the s l
U game?
Speaker 5: I mean depends on how heard some of us thought
it was.
Speaker 3: We talked about it. We thought, yeah in that contest.
But we went out there and played and looked like
he had got some zip back. But in that process Southeastern, Yeah,
and that process could have Actually, you know, I don't know,
We don't know.
Speaker 2: We don't like that.
Speaker 4: We can't tell you from like what we see from
a fan's perspective. We don't know what the doctor said.
We don't know what's going on. But like, yeah, in
our opinion, you should have based on the information that
we have, and we got that information from just watching
tape knowing that he doesn't look right.
Speaker 7: Jake to your point, like yeah, like the there was
across litle zip and zip. It doesn't really matter who
you're playing. Like it it looked he had the zip
against Southeastern. He didn't have it last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: Hashtag go to b mail bag. Jay Cutler is serving
a four day jail sentence for d U. I should
he spent his time in the clink working on his
body language. You know he's got poor body language.
Speaker 5: I can respect how much J. Cutler doesn't give a
f Like the man just does not care.
Speaker 3: Oh, you hate him very much, very much. I tell
I tell my flag teams. I'm like, if y'all keep
giving me that J. Cutler body language, and every.
Speaker 2: Time they're like, Dad, who's Jacutler? And Dad's gotta tell him.
Speaker 5: He was married to Christan Cavalier, the guy.
Speaker 2: With the worst body language you've ever seen.
Speaker 3: Throw a pick, same body language, score a touchdown, same
body language, ripping heaters on the sideline.
Speaker 7: Remember the infamous play him with the Dolphins when they
were running like the little Wildcat and he was standing
off to the side, like not blocking anybody. He was
interviewed about that, He's like, God, it's a stupid play.
I'm lot to be receiver looking to block anybody. I'm
not gonna catch. I was like, I'm standing here because
I don't like the play.
Speaker 6: Call.
Speaker 5: I love him.
Speaker 2: I did kind of like respect the fact that he
was he was him, he was true to himself.
Speaker 5: I love people like that.
Speaker 2: I didn't have like a personal beef with them like
Jake did, which I understand. Desmon. I'm going to kind
of just summarize your question. No, like, yeah, we can
talk about adjustments, but we're not calling coaches to give
our input. They they probably wouldn't want to hear that.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, every every coach, every former player,
every whatever, is going to have I guess a different
opinion than whoever the coach is.
Speaker 2: Then you get down the building every day.
Speaker 4: Look, it's we don't know their offense. We don't know
what their rules are, the foundational pieces of how each
of these plays have been built or developed, or what
these guys have been taught. All we can say is
based on our experiences that might be completely different than
what the the experience over there is.
Speaker 2: So we don't know what we're saying is right.
Speaker 4: All we're saying is our opinion based on experiences, whether
that's right, wrong, and different idea.
Speaker 2: We don't speak at facts.
Speaker 3: Hashag go to b mailbag. How much is the field
to blame for all of these injuries? Are you talking
about like in the NFL? Yeah, that turf in Madlife
is awful. It's always been awful. I'll play the old
Met and the new Met and it was still bad.
You see, the turf in the NFL is not even
like high grade turf. Sometimes it gets shocking, like we
have nicer turf at Elite than they have in the NFL.
Like I mean that, not even like promoting the business.
Were just facts, like there's some stadiums with really bad
turf in the National Football and grass.
Speaker 2: There's places with bad grass. Yeah you will. I'd like
to see a forty like Arizona awful, awful grass. It
was like mush. It was always muddy because it's like
one of those fields you can roll in and out,
and it was just always just soggy mud basically. And
it doesn't rain in Arizona. So explain that one to me.
We gotta.
Speaker 7: We were playing at Springfield my senior year and if
you've been out to Springfield High School, it's like a
cow pasture could there. It's in between Walker and Hammond.
If you're like, man, that doesn't seem like there's a
lot there.
Speaker 2: It's not okay, all right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but OBJ made a tweet, you know, imploring the
NFL to outlaw turf, make people change the grass. Because
there's a lot of similar scenes and pictures from when
he tore his knee up to when Malik did. I
know you didn't see the tweet because you just joined yesterday,
but you'll see those kinds of tweets.
Speaker 2: We call it death life, right, I'll trying to pull
it up. M hm m mm hmmmmmmmm. Taylor underscore sharp underscore.
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Speaker 5: I don't like it in the middle. I feel like
it looks clunky. So it's just it is change it,
I think.
Speaker 2: So hashtag go to be mail bag.
Speaker 3: What are the stats slash percentages on passes being called
on first down and run on second down, and what
is the percentage of which concept the run is. I
don't have that obviously, like right here, hadn't broken that down, Matt,
but I can definitely try before we get out here
today to get that percentage.
Speaker 4: And let's say somebody asked earlier too, how many snaps
this season have we taken actually under center. I don't
know that we're gonna work on those two stats for y'all. Okay,
mm hmm how many under center?
Speaker 2: I know one? No, one percentage.
Speaker 3: All right, well that's a little homework during the break.
Hashtag OTB mail bag. Can this defense stop well Norris
sellars after what he did to Kentucky?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, in Kentucky, guys, if you can believe that.
Speaker 5: Also, I need this narrative about the defense being exposed
on Saturday to go away, because again we talked about
this yesterday, that defense was out on the field. This
is probably an exaggeration the time it felt like it.
So yeah, I mean that is a ridiculous amount of
time to be out your offense. Couldn't give them a break.
So I mean they did well for how hard they
were playing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say, like, obviously get off the field
and third down, Yeah, I thought they're coaching points this week.
Got to get up, Yeah, because I thought there was
some call.
Speaker 5: I mean, it wasn't perfect, but it wasn't no.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, like if you're if you're just grading on
a very hard scale, because I agree with you. I
think they played win football on the third down stuff. Actually,
I went back and there's some calls that the call
was the right call. You just got to get to
where you're supposed to be quicker. Don't try to do
somebody else's job. And we talk about that all the time, Right,
you can only do your job right. It's a team game.
But your one to eleventh is doing your job. Your
guy does his job. And because if you try to
start doing other people's jobs, then you can't get your
job done. And you saw some of that, and again
like you're working hard, you're playing hard, you're trying to
get it done, So that would be one thing. And
then for like a team gets Old Miss, you're just
not going to have the opportunity to rush the quarterback
very often.
Speaker 2: So I thought that some of the pressure would leak through.
I give it to Old Miss.
Speaker 3: They actually did a really nice job of picking up
any blitzes that LSU brought, any pressure they brought. But
if anybody watches that tape, you can see that there
was winning plays, winning football being played for a majority
of the time by the defense. They never got that lifeline,
they never got the life wrath from the offense to
be able to.
Speaker 4: Get any plays as an astronomical amount of plays to
be out there. I mean you saw weeks like puked
like everyone saw that clip and went viral like.
Speaker 2: That would have been like the rallying.
Speaker 4: The one criticism I guess schematically I had. Now again,
they went their speed. They're almost as tempo affected the
defensive play calling more than I anticipated that it would.
And Jake said when they get when you get the
line of scrimage really fast and you snapped the ball
really fast, it's hard to get intricate and detailed.
Speaker 2: Blitz is called.
Speaker 4: My only criticism I guess, like schematically from the game
plan was we well, we've been really good at it's
like a late blitzer. Call it green dog. If like
if a linebacker if he's got the running back man
to man and he stays in the blocks, he laid ads.
We late added for the majority of time we were
rushing just like a fifth guy, So the four defense
line would russian, we'd late add a fifth linebacker. Well,
if they're blocking six, a late ad didn't really do
anything because there's already a six. There's already five offensive
linemen right to block guys, So it didn't really do
If you want to have success with like late added rushers.
You got to be rushing five and you late at
a six guy because then you can get get away
from the offensive lineman. But if you're late adding just
one to make five total rushers and it's like delayed,
it just looks like a really slow Yeah, so I
didn't really do anything well.
Speaker 7: So many people were pointing out, oh look at the
yard at you differential. Yeah, we talked about all the plays,
but yards don't win games. Points due ole miss thirty points,
sixty three points, forty one, forty five. You hold them
to twenty four points? Yeah, what more does this defense
have to do? You hold them to twenty four that's
their lowest total. Buy a whole touchdown missue.
Speaker 2: Answer the question, Yes, I think we're better than Kentucky's defense.
Speaker 3: I would say so, all right, Actually, let's do this.
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Speaker 3: All right, we're kind of getting back into just a
mailbag here, just real quick, honestly, Like we're not gonna
have time to do a ton of them, but why
not like all the defensive stuff, like you just like
you give up twenty four points and you were on
the field for ninety plays and again like if you've
listened to us over the last two days. There are
certainly portions of this LSU team, but we are not
not going to sit here and try to make an
excuse for it. It has to be better. It is
not anywhere close to where it needs to be. But defensively,
you made winning plays in that game. Yeah, I know
they converted some long that's a good offense, but you
made enough place to win that game if you had
some help. And Nookie pointed this out and I want
to reiterate it. In the first half, here's how many
plays your drives offensively lasted to help your defense out.
Speaker 2: Three five five, three three four one too many plays
you had.
Speaker 3: Five was the most plays you had in a drive
in the first half, five because we were scoring.
Speaker 2: So nope, So complimentary football has to happen.
Speaker 3: And when you go back and you look at the
grades for this team, right, AJ Halsey graded out eighty
four percent.
Speaker 2: PJ.
Speaker 3: Woodland seventy nine percent, what week seventy one percent. Like,
there's some guys on the defense that again gave you
an opportunity. But for them to be elite, which I
think they have the ability to be, so you got
to help them out like you have to go out
there and hell, even if you kick a field goal,
put eleven plays together, because okay, so we gave you that.
And then you look at what Old Miss was able
to do, and they had they had an eighteen play
drive that ended in a field goal. They went eighteen
plays and didn't even score in the end zone.
Speaker 5: So defense not good though, to.
Speaker 2: Help each other out, that has to happen if you
want to be where they can be. So yeah, I'm
not even sure is that narrative real? Like are people
talking about that? I don't know. I've been focused on
the offense.
Speaker 5: I've seen things online. There's a few things in the chat.
Speaker 2: It can't be real.
Speaker 5: I mean it's got to be.
Speaker 2: It's got it. Yeah, rage bait click it worked on me.
You got you.
Speaker 3: Fistball up over like you were without question, all right.
So yeah, you have to help each other out. Complimentary
football offense. Defense, it's I know something's been foorn over
the last couple of years, but it has to start
matching each other if you want to get to where
you want to go, which is a college football player.
Speaker 4: Just think, like, I know nobody out here listening, like
we're nobody's current FOOTBA players are now listening.
Speaker 2: It's just like, just put yourself off your shoes.
Speaker 4: Defense that just was out there for fifteen plays, held
them to whatever field goal, whatever it is. You come
off the sideline, your offense goes three and out, and
it's like, all right, defense back on the field. Just
put yourself in those shoes. How tired do people get
walking up two flights of stairs?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well that and also also you get on the board
and you get your your pinout charpie, dry, race board, whatever,
and you open it up and you go to make
an adjustment.
Speaker 2: Defense alert. What wait? What huh? Defense alert? We're trying
to make adjustments. You can't three plays down? Just got
a little sup in mine high? All right, Jesus, let's
see a lot of cramping out there. All right, we'll
be back more OTB off.
Speaker 1: The bench locked in on PLUSU Football twenty four to seven.
You're listening to off the bench, all.
Speaker 3: Right, welcome back in OTB. Here in the vour number
two to kick off our number three. We'll get back
into the Saints conversation. Nick Underhill, new On and Stoff
Football will join us, obviously.
Speaker 2: Go bringing the vibes this morning. I think he's gonna
be positive. Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Speaker 4: He's gonna be positive next week because we're Saints obviously
gonna beat the Giants this weekend.
Speaker 3: Oh, the Giants got that rookie quarterback bomb and they
beat the Chargers.
Speaker 2: Camp Scataboo is actually kind of awesome. He's just like
a battering ram. I don't know how long that guy
can play play it like that, but my god, he
he ain't here for a long time. He's here for good.
He's here for a great time. Jackson Dart two.
Speaker 3: Hey, Jackson, Yes, a little bit like you're not built there,
you know, to be that way, you're you're not try.
Speaker 2: To punch someone in the head running the ball with
his throwing arm. I know I like the meathead this
of that team.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 2: But also you know, you get me available, Jackson.
Speaker 3: Uh So, we'll have Nick Underhill new words dot Football
to talk Saints uh here when we come back. A
good effort there in Buffalo. They've got a chance to
win a game against the Giants. It's maybe the best
chance they've had so far. We'll see if they can
get it done. We'll get updates on False tomorrow and
Taysom Hill as well, and uh, maybe we'll asking about
Caesariz and how long that ankle is going to be there,
Nick Underhill when we come.
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