WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:06.759 Weird things happened in the. 2 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:12.000 Weird, weird weird. 3 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:32.920 You were giving me the power and I was giving 4 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:36.960 it to the triangle, the triad, okay, and they have 5 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:41.200 to give the energy back to you to complete, to 6 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:45.000 complete the triad, and then Alex show yourself right now. 7 00:00:48.119 --> 00:00:52.920 Yes, my lord, I'm a wizard. 8 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:59.759 You're a wizard. You're a wizard, Harry, Alan, You're a 9 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.520 I love me Alan, Yeah, I do too. I love you. 10 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:06.959 We love you, Alan, Yeah, we do. We're doing an 11 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:13.920 episode about Merland. Yeo, Merlin, the Magician, Merlin, the Wizard, Merlin, 12 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:17.719 the shape shifter, the prophet, Merlin, the prophet, the seer. 13 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:19.920 I saw you're gonna say that. 14 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:21.359 I saw you were going to say that too. Yeah, 15 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:22.280 we just saw each other. 16 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:23.640 Yeah, we traveled time and space. 17 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:25.879 I see you. Yeah, man, I see you. 18 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:26.640 I see you too. 19 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:29.239 I get it. I get you. I see your deepest desire. 20 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:32.959 What is that? What would you say? A seer? It's 21 00:01:33.000 --> 00:01:37.200 like a diviner. I just I just realized that did 22 00:01:37.239 --> 00:01:38.239 not make it any easier. 23 00:01:38.319 --> 00:01:39.120 Like a fortune teller. 24 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:42.879 Yeah, a future here, yeah, a future seer? Oh well, 25 00:01:43.000 --> 00:01:43.439 I don't know. 26 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:45.159 So were you saying seer? 27 00:01:45.239 --> 00:01:48.879 Like you see your steak or a seer a seer, 28 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:52.359 a seer as in the act the the active. 29 00:01:52.200 --> 00:01:59.480 Act seeing, but also also often wizards or seers are 30 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:03.560 depicted as being able to see anything in the past, present, 31 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:04.040 or future. 32 00:02:04.120 --> 00:02:05.760 Yeah, or into the spirit world. 33 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:09.360 Yeah, or into a vortex and a black hole on 34 00:02:09.439 --> 00:02:15.719 another planet. So yeah, we're talking about Merlin. Merlin, y'all 35 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:17.680 know him, y'all know what's up. Yeah, I've met him, 36 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:18.240 you have. 37 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:21.680 Yeah, I saw him in the the Disney movie The 38 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:28.840 Sword and the Stone, so you met him. His likeness, likeness. 39 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:32.240 Also you know what, dude, I'm just gonna say it, 40 00:02:32.479 --> 00:02:37.280 there's this amazing short series from the nineties called Merlin. 41 00:02:38.039 --> 00:02:41.120 Oh yeah, I found that during my research. I've never 42 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:43.719 seen it. I watched it on a BBC show I think, so. 43 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:45.520 Yeah, it's like a two part series. 44 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:48.360 Is it like a modern Merlin thing or is it like. 45 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:51.120 Uh, I don't know, it's like a fantasy like medieval 46 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:55.479 times Merlin and King Arthur or what else? Do they 47 00:02:55.479 --> 00:02:57.919 call her Mordred the Witch or whatever? 48 00:02:58.039 --> 00:02:58.759 Yeah, it's very cool. 49 00:02:58.759 --> 00:03:00.240 I didn't have time to watch it for this said, 50 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:01.319 I wanted to so bad. 51 00:03:02.639 --> 00:03:05.759 I have a fun, interesting little way to kick us off, Alex, 52 00:03:06.520 --> 00:03:11.120 what do you know about Merlin? Uh? 53 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:12.520 Little to nothing? 54 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:15.560 Okay, good, that's a that's the perfect place for us 55 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:18.400 to start, because there might be some people out there 56 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:20.520 listening that might you know, they might not know much 57 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:21.319 about Merlin. 58 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:21.840 Huh. 59 00:03:22.039 --> 00:03:26.560 So this is a this is an interesting thing. You know, 60 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:29.000 all sorts of most cultures in the world have like 61 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:35.280 a mythology, right, they have a mythology lasting from thousands 62 00:03:35.319 --> 00:03:37.879 and thousands of years you look at like, uh, like 63 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:42.280 ancient ancient China, Greece, Egypt, like most of the world 64 00:03:42.400 --> 00:03:46.080 has a mythology around their like the you know their 65 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:53.680 ancient culture. Well, Britain's, England's, the UK whatever that theirs 66 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:56.800 was wiped out in war. It was literally all burned 67 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:59.879 to the ground, all of it, like their big live 68 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:02.680 really what was it called. I forget what it was called, 69 00:04:02.680 --> 00:04:04.639 but it burned to the ground. It had all their records. 70 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:10.960 There was apparently a lasting mythology of Britannia for that 71 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:14.199 like dated back thousands of years, just like many other cultures, 72 00:04:14.599 --> 00:04:19.279 but it was lost to history forever, which is why 73 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:23.439 a lot in like the early like eleven hundreds to 74 00:04:23.560 --> 00:04:27.040 twelve hundreds, when they were like rebuilding their society, and 75 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:31.480 such a lot of these like pseudo historians and poets 76 00:04:31.879 --> 00:04:38.480 and writers. They started releasing this like kind of neo 77 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:45.600 mythology of Great Britain, which is super super fascinating to me, 78 00:04:45.800 --> 00:04:50.920 where it's like I say pseudo history because it's really interesting, 79 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:54.240 like a lot of the places and names and battles 80 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:56.920 and like a lot of that stuff is legit. A 81 00:04:56.920 --> 00:04:59.240 lot of that stuff is stuff that actually happened in history, 82 00:04:59.680 --> 00:05:04.480 but peppered throughout it is like some really deep, wild 83 00:05:04.600 --> 00:05:09.920 mystical stuff. And one of those amazing mystical things that 84 00:05:09.959 --> 00:05:14.680 we get from this like pseudo mythology are stories of Merlin, 85 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:20.879 which were actually, if you do some serious digging, a 86 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:24.040 lot of the stories of Merlin were borrowed from like 87 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:30.040 even older Celtic stories, Gaelic stuff like there there are 88 00:05:30.120 --> 00:05:32.399 kind of it's an arc type that has popped up 89 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:35.240 throughout a lot of different mythologies, a lot of different cultures. 90 00:05:36.120 --> 00:05:41.639 But what was his name, The guy Geoffrey of Monmouth 91 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.759 is the one in the twelfth century he kind of 92 00:05:44.800 --> 00:05:48.279 like compiled a lot of these older tellings because there 93 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:57.120 was like Mirden and Ambrosius ambrosious and then Melkin or like, 94 00:05:58.839 --> 00:06:00.879 is it Melkin? I'm not sure, hang on, hang on, 95 00:06:00.920 --> 00:06:02.759 hang on, I wrote it down. I think there's there's 96 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:09.160 also one called Melkin. Let's see Lucy, yes, Melkin. Yes. 97 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:13.079 So there's all these different these different figures that kind 98 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:17.800 of created the amalgam that is Merlin. So who is Merlin. 99 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:24.360 Merlin is like this wizard, this this old sage who 100 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:27.240 is kind of like a figure out of time, who 101 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:31.959 is counsel to many kings. He's he was a court magician, 102 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:37.839 a divener an astrologist, prophet, a prophet. Yeah. And you know, 103 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:41.000 if you've heard the stories of King Arthur, you've heard 104 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:46.279 about Merlin. He's he is integral to the the Arthurian legends. 105 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.600 He even divined that Arthur would be a king in 106 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:55.079 the first place, and according to the myths, he kind 107 00:06:55.079 --> 00:06:59.839 of Merlin kind of orchestrated the birth of Arthur. Right. 108 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.439 So it's it's pretty wild, It's it's really cool. But 109 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:06.120 let's we can start with like the origin stuff. Did 110 00:07:06.160 --> 00:07:08.199 you say that you got some of that, Like, well, yeah, yeah, 111 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:09.680 you want to go into some of that, Yeah, I 112 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:11.279 mean I got some of it too, but I want 113 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:12.519 to hear what you have to say. Dude, I've been 114 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:13.120 talking too much. 115 00:07:13.199 --> 00:07:15.600 Yeah, so it's no, not at all. I was eating 116 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:19.000 it up because I'm interested in in what you came across. 117 00:07:19.000 --> 00:07:20.680 And it sounds like we came across a lot of 118 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:22.600 the same stuff. Because when we say we want to 119 00:07:22.639 --> 00:07:24.959 do these episodes, it's like, you know, I might have 120 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:26.879 the idea I want to look into the history, or 121 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:28.959 maybe this time I want to focus on the pop culture, 122 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:30.480 you know, And it seems like we kind of had 123 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.720 the same idea about this one. But the King Arthur 124 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:39.839 Uther Arthur Uther Pendragon typically associated having this powerful wizard 125 00:07:39.839 --> 00:07:41.920 who guided him. And it's it's like you said, like 126 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:44.439 the myth of Arthur isn't what it is without Merlin, 127 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:44.920 this this. 128 00:07:44.920 --> 00:07:46.720 Wise figure, yeah, wouldn't exist. 129 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:50.399 Merlin's the archetypal magis the ultimate sage who holds the 130 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:52.519 secrets of the universe and the key to the elements. 131 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:55.199 He's depicted as being able to transfer his time. He 132 00:07:55.240 --> 00:07:57.639 can speak the language of all living things, shape shift, 133 00:07:57.680 --> 00:08:00.120 fly at will see the future. He's also, you know, 134 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:03.600 this sort of wild man of the woods. He's sometimes 135 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:05.959 depicted as having this wild boar that follows him and 136 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:09.920 they talk to each other and communing with other naked 137 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:13.240 wild men in the woods. In some legends, in the 138 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:16.439 earliest depictions of Merlin, he is a fatherless child born 139 00:08:16.519 --> 00:08:20.439 of an immaculate conception. He's this fatherless child of wonder 140 00:08:20.800 --> 00:08:24.160 whose birth was brought about by his earthly human mother 141 00:08:24.279 --> 00:08:26.639 and the forces of the supernatural divine world. 142 00:08:27.160 --> 00:08:30.879 So and some of them it was a demon. It 143 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:34.200 was an incubust right that he was born of, like 144 00:08:34.240 --> 00:08:36.039 an incubus and his mortal mother. 145 00:08:36.240 --> 00:08:38.519 Yeah, which is crazy. And then those versions of the story, 146 00:08:38.559 --> 00:08:41.360 he's depicted as being like super tall, like a giant. 147 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:44.600 He can lift these really powerful strong rocks and he 148 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:47.480 has the superhuman strength and he's part demon and it's 149 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:49.519 kind of this like scary lore about Merlin through the 150 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:50.200 medieval ages. 151 00:08:50.440 --> 00:08:53.720 Yeah, I don't know who. I don't know who brought 152 00:08:53.919 --> 00:08:57.240 that version of the story about. But according to that version, 153 00:08:57.639 --> 00:09:01.960 he was like he was like the anti Christ. Wow. 154 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:04.559 Like I did a lot of research about that kind 155 00:09:04.559 --> 00:09:07.840 of version of it, and like the demons of Hell 156 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:13.200 like straight up manifested him. Essentially. They they orchestrated this 157 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:17.279 whole plan as like a revenge against Christ. And the 158 00:09:17.360 --> 00:09:23.559 Christians and they saw too. They basically they like disguised 159 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:30.360 a demon as Uther Pendragon, Uther Senior, and they yeah, 160 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:31.240 they like kind. 161 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:35.919 Of apparently that comes from Jeoffrey of Monmouth depicting him 162 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:38.200 as a demon. And what's really cool about that is 163 00:09:38.240 --> 00:09:40.600 because this came around in the Dark Ages, right, these 164 00:09:40.639 --> 00:09:43.320 stories of Merlin, the tales that he was based off of, 165 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:47.000 and at this point in Europe there was not really 166 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:50.879 like a clear boundary between Christianity and paganism. 167 00:09:51.039 --> 00:09:51.200 Right. 168 00:09:51.279 --> 00:09:53.519 We did talk about that on the Halloween special yes 169 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:55.399 year or the year before maybe, I'm not sure. I 170 00:09:55.440 --> 00:09:57.360 think it was last year, but we talked about that 171 00:09:57.399 --> 00:10:00.279 how in medieval times there was this superstitition, it's just 172 00:10:01.120 --> 00:10:04.759 fear of you know, these these pagan legends, but also 173 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:10.480 like the emergence of Christian rulership and authority. So there's 174 00:10:10.519 --> 00:10:14.960 speculation that the character of Merlin serves as a third 175 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:20.039 dynamic element to the Arthurian legend, where as his role 176 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:22.720 is to bridge the supernatural into the story. Right, Right, 177 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:25.240 It's like you have these elements of Arthur being this 178 00:10:25.320 --> 00:10:28.440 divinely inspired king, which is kind of like these Christian themes, 179 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:30.320 but then you have Merlin who kind of has this 180 00:10:30.480 --> 00:10:35.440 like old world ancient rooted pagan magic. So it's like 181 00:10:35.440 --> 00:10:38.279 this fusion of the Christianity and the Paganism. And in 182 00:10:38.360 --> 00:10:42.480 those stories Merlin and I guess he was loyal to 183 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:45.159 the King of Britain at the time. In those stories 184 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:47.799 they were seen as like a scare of the powers 185 00:10:47.799 --> 00:10:51.200 of Christianity persecuting Pagans. 186 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:55.080 Like there's multiple versions from different backgrounds of Merlin. Like 187 00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:58.279 there's like a Christian hero version of Merlin, you know 188 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:01.440 what I'm talking about. And then there's the demonic like 189 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.840 evil version of Merlin where he's like born of an 190 00:11:03.879 --> 00:11:06.440 incubus and it was like a part of the Harrowing 191 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:08.600 of Hell. I got it written down right here. According 192 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:10.799 to legend, Merlin was conceived of a mortal woman and 193 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:14.000 an incubus or dark spirit. Some accounts suggests the story 194 00:11:14.039 --> 00:11:17.200 of his birth accounted in The Harrowing of Hell, which 195 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:20.799 described Merlin's original role being the anti Christ, meant to 196 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:23.240 bring revenge on Christ and the Christians by the hands 197 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:26.639 of the demons of Hell. This plan, now, this is 198 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:29.480 this is where it turns into the Christian hero version. 199 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:33.759 This plan was, however, thwarted when Merlin's mother died, Fed 200 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:37.320 of Wales found a priest to baptize Merlin before he 201 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:39.840 was pulled into the orbit of the devils. It's amazing 202 00:11:40.919 --> 00:11:44.159 like Darth Vader, right, yeah, yeah, it's like these demons 203 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:49.080 like raised the anti Christ and then his mom's like, no, baptized, 204 00:11:49.120 --> 00:11:54.960 baptize him. He's now I am delivered. He's now an 205 00:11:55.000 --> 00:11:57.679 angel of God, like just like the baptize them and 206 00:11:57.720 --> 00:12:02.799 he's now like, a that's amazing Christ like baptizing. No, No, 207 00:12:02.840 --> 00:12:06.120 this was Oh yeah, she's just I'm like, that's what 208 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:09.360 I'm saying, slapped the spirit of God into his forehead. 209 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:12.320 Please, That's that's really cool. I didn't know that element 210 00:12:12.360 --> 00:12:14.879 of the story, but I like where you were going 211 00:12:14.919 --> 00:12:17.240 with the Murden thing. So Murden was this character who 212 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:18.919 was written about. I think it was. I wrote it 213 00:12:18.919 --> 00:12:20.960 down somewhere, but I think it was the ninth century. 214 00:12:20.720 --> 00:12:24.480 It was was it was earlier than the Merlin stories. 215 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:28.879 And Geoffrey of Monmouth he was obsessed with this this 216 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:31.799 ancient Latin literature. He went to a monastery, became a monk, 217 00:12:32.399 --> 00:12:36.039 and he was proficient in Latin. Everything back then universally 218 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:38.159 was Latin. That was like the language of the world. 219 00:12:38.279 --> 00:12:40.399 That if you wanted your text to spread far and wide, 220 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:43.440 it was written in Latin. And this is funny man. 221 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:48.039 So Murden is the story that he's based on. Murden 222 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:52.080 is this legend from way earlier texts where he was 223 00:12:52.159 --> 00:12:55.960 this wild man that was like this court magician. I 224 00:12:56.039 --> 00:12:58.080 keep saying wildman because he's depicted as like going into 225 00:12:58.080 --> 00:12:59.879 the woods and going crazy and living with the animals. 226 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.679 Right, Yes, something happened to him. 227 00:13:03.039 --> 00:13:05.200 He saw the horrors of war, That's what it was. 228 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:07.600 He saw the war between the Saxons and the Britons, 229 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:10.039 and it was just all these people being brutally slaughtered, 230 00:13:10.080 --> 00:13:11.200 and he went crazy and he fled, and. 231 00:13:11.200 --> 00:13:13.480 He just fled into the woods for like fifty years 232 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:14.000 or something. 233 00:13:14.200 --> 00:13:16.399 And then his sanity is restored by the gift of 234 00:13:16.440 --> 00:13:18.399 prophecy and he comes back out and he's like a 235 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.679 wizard again. But the reason he changed the name from 236 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:28.159 Murden to merlinis is because in Latin, the prefix it's 237 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.480 either the prefix or the suffix of the word. Merden 238 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:33.519 meant shit. 239 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:37.120 Well, so oh marred. 240 00:13:37.159 --> 00:13:45.519 Yes, marred means the shitty one. Jeffrey of Monmouth was like, 241 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:47.159 let's come up with a better name. 242 00:13:48.080 --> 00:13:51.360 Oh my god. I only know that because all the 243 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:55.159 time Angel Candelaria shout out, he'll just go mailed, like 244 00:13:55.240 --> 00:13:57.440 out of nowhere. And I finally asked him, like, what 245 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:00.440 the fuck are you saying. He's like, Marred it means 246 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:01.440 shit in French. 247 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:06.320 Yeah, in Spanish, the shitty one. Yeah, the shitty one. 248 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:09.519 So he was like, yeah, we're gonna call him merlinis. 249 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:12.399 That's probably better change it doesn't mean the shitty one. 250 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:16.879 Yeah. So in the original, yeah, it's he's fascinated with 251 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:20.240 the Welsh stories of King's heroes monsters, so he becomes 252 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:23.360 a scholar of the church. He researched all these historical 253 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:27.360 tablets written in Latin, so his name was Murden, but 254 00:14:27.440 --> 00:14:30.159 instead of translating it to Murdinis, he changed it to 255 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:36.080 merlinis right. Also Ambrosia, because there was another story based 256 00:14:36.120 --> 00:14:39.159 on this other figure who was this fatherless child of 257 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.919 wonder named Ambrosius from way earlier times. Also, at some 258 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:48.399 point in Italy, Merlin was regarded as prominent of a 259 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:50.000 prophet as Isaiah from the Bible. 260 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:51.399 Damn. 261 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:56.080 So Jeffrey of Monmouth was writing these legends as fiction, 262 00:14:56.559 --> 00:14:58.159 just having fun with it, but the people at the 263 00:14:58.200 --> 00:14:59.919 time were seeing it as real, like, oh my god, 264 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:03.120 these are real prophecies because he was telling ancient stories 265 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:05.840 that that really happened. Like you said, he was telling 266 00:15:05.919 --> 00:15:09.320 real historical stories. Yeah, it's like pseudohistory, pseudohistory, but he 267 00:15:09.399 --> 00:15:12.399 was weaving Merlin and the prophecies into it, and the 268 00:15:12.519 --> 00:15:14.679 commoners reading it were like, Oh my god, this all 269 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:15.240 really happened. 270 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:18.480 This is real. Yeah, it's like mythology. 271 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:20.879 He was like the original nostradamis. 272 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:21.440 Oh that's sick. 273 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:26.159 So this is really interesting to me because this still happens, 274 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:30.480 and I think we talked about it, like getting into 275 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.679 like stranger things. Like stranger Things makes me mad because 276 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:40.519 Operation Monarch and mk Ultra get conflated with these fake stories. 277 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.120 But this has been going on for a long time, 278 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:45.559 it seems, oh yeah, forever, and so it still goes 279 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:49.200 on today, this pseudohistory where we're taking, you know, things 280 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:52.320 that really really happened and are kind of on the 281 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:55.200 verge of right and wrong and then turning them into 282 00:15:55.759 --> 00:15:57.480 easily digestible pop culture. 283 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:01.320 But the really wild and interesting thing to me is 284 00:16:01.360 --> 00:16:04.440 that court magicians were a real thing. 285 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:05.600 They still are. 286 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:07.480 Remember we talked about this. 287 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:12.639 Ronald Reagan, right, had an astrologer that was like, you're 288 00:16:12.679 --> 00:16:14.799 gonna be in serious trouble if you go out on 289 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:16.200 this day, and he did and he was shot. 290 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:21.519 Yeah, So it's like it's a weird thing, this whole Merlin. 291 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:24.240 Like that's why there's so many blurred lines, and there's 292 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:27.000 people out there that still like believe he was real. 293 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:31.320 People believe he was just allegory fiction, nonfiction. Who knows 294 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:34.320 what it is. The lines are so blurred because to 295 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:40.200 be honest, this like this neo Mythology of Britannia written 296 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:46.000 by Geoffrey of Monmouth is like really convincing and historically 297 00:16:46.080 --> 00:16:49.000 sound in many ways, and it's like what was real 298 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:49.600 what wasn't. 299 00:16:49.960 --> 00:16:54.000 It's kind of like Hermistroch's magicis right exactly archetypal stage figure, 300 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:55.039 Like did he really exist? 301 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:56.120 You know? 302 00:16:56.159 --> 00:16:58.679 Theirs speculation that maybe he really did exist, but it 303 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.240 wasn't a person named Merlin to be with someone named Merdon. 304 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:04.240 You know, maybe it was ambrosious, Maybe there was a 305 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:07.000 real person that he was based on. 306 00:17:07.480 --> 00:17:10.200 Yeah, there's yeah, there's there's a bunch a ton that 307 00:17:10.279 --> 00:17:12.519 he could have been based on He's also he also 308 00:17:12.599 --> 00:17:16.920 bears many similarities to Odin. Yeah, you know, many similarities 309 00:17:16.960 --> 00:17:17.319 like this. 310 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:18.920 Wise old wizard that kind of lives out in the. 311 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:22.519 World in the woods. He's the future. It's like there's 312 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:26.559 there's tons of overlap between this figure and all these 313 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:28.680 other figures. So it's it's really fascinating. 314 00:17:28.759 --> 00:17:32.079 At some point, there were after you know, these original 315 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:36.880 writings of Merlin or merlinis, there were other scholars and 316 00:17:37.359 --> 00:17:40.920 authors writing more and more and more stuff about Merlin. 317 00:17:41.400 --> 00:17:47.240 At one point, Shakespeare actually debunked Merlin stories as being fabricated. 318 00:17:47.519 --> 00:17:51.000 Like that's how big the legend grew, Shakespeare debt them. 319 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:56.559 But still to this isn't there like speculation about Shakespeare being. 320 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:57.599 Real or not? Yeah? 321 00:17:57.680 --> 00:17:59.160 Yeah, was it one person or was it. 322 00:17:59.119 --> 00:18:02.799 A group of people's Yeah exactly. Yeah, what's it called 323 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:06.839 a pseudonym or whatever? Yeah, yeah, that's still debated. But 324 00:18:06.960 --> 00:18:09.720 I mean, so is the existence of Merlin. Like, dude, 325 00:18:09.759 --> 00:18:14.240 there are entire like burial sites, Yeah, like the Merlin's 326 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.839 Mound and Merlin's Hill, and like there's like six or 327 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:21.279 seven different places in the world that like the legend 328 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:24.359 is that Merlin is buried there. We'll check this out, dude. 329 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:26.599 Recently, like in the last I think it was like 330 00:18:26.599 --> 00:18:29.359 in the eighties or the nineties, there was a body 331 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:36.480 found in a Pete Bog in Britain that had strong evidence. 332 00:18:37.480 --> 00:18:40.519 I'll explain the evidence in but it's the body. The 333 00:18:40.839 --> 00:18:43.519 analysis of the body suggested that it may have been 334 00:18:44.119 --> 00:18:48.559 ritually sacrificed in the fashion that the Druids did. They 335 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:51.279 called it the triple death. It was like they would 336 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:56.319 slit their throat, they would take tendon chords and they 337 00:18:56.359 --> 00:18:59.759 would suffocate them and then when they're already dead, they 338 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:02.920 would submerge them in water as like a symbolic you're 339 00:19:02.960 --> 00:19:06.559 also being drowned. It's it's the triple death, because I mean, 340 00:19:06.640 --> 00:19:09.039 come on, in every ancient religion ever, the number three 341 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:11.400 is this powerful mystical number. But even to the Druids, 342 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:14.960 the maiden, the mother of the krone, the Triketra, you 343 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:17.759 always see that symbol, the Druid symbol with this like 344 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:23.400 the yeah, they they had that right, They had this 345 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:27.039 very sacred ritual called the triple death, and it was 346 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:29.119 like a high honor to be sacrificed in this way. 347 00:19:29.160 --> 00:19:31.519 It wasn't something that was common, and there are some 348 00:19:31.559 --> 00:19:35.240 stories to say that Merlin was sacrificed in this way. 349 00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:38.400 So this body that they found, there's scholars now being like, 350 00:19:38.519 --> 00:19:41.000 is this who the real Merlin may have been found 351 00:19:41.039 --> 00:19:43.200 in the certain peat bog which some legend says he 352 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:44.519 was buried in this peat bog? 353 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:46.960 Where was it. 354 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:47.119 Somewhere in Britain? 355 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:49.400 I don't remember, yeah, because it's That's another thing that's 356 00:19:49.400 --> 00:19:53.480 still hotly debated is like was he from Wales or 357 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:58.079 was he from Scotland? Yeah, like all of the there's 358 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:03.200 there's burials in both places, there are legends from both places. 359 00:20:03.279 --> 00:20:06.279 There's like tons of evidence from both places of like 360 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:12.079 where this whole myth came about or whatever. Yeah, but 361 00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:13.799 people still debate was he real or not? 362 00:20:14.440 --> 00:20:16.240 Yeah, I mean it's hard to say it. I feel 363 00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:18.759 like with a story that passes through the ages like that, 364 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:24.160 that has such a a resonance to it, that spreads 365 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:25.759 like there has to be something to it. 366 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:27.720 And I also feel like it gets to a certain 367 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:30.279 point where it doesn't even matter anymore. It doesn't matter 368 00:20:30.279 --> 00:20:33.240 if they existed or not, because their impact exists and 369 00:20:33.279 --> 00:20:35.400 that's all that matters. It's just like the hermis tris 370 00:20:35.400 --> 00:20:38.680 measures thing like who cares if he actually existed or not, 371 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:43.599 Like the knowledge is here, the downloads happened, or you 372 00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:47.279 know whatever, Like people have been communicating with something from 373 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:50.799 the beyond that gave them the idea of this hermes 374 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:53.720 tris mejistice. Maybe it was just a symbol of the mind. 375 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:57.039 Who knows, but it doesn't really matter at this point. 376 00:20:57.200 --> 00:20:59.519 I'm glad you said that, because I was watching this 377 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.119 lecture from this guy and instead of like a modern figure, 378 00:21:03.400 --> 00:21:08.200 he calls himself Arthur Uther Pendragon, and he's like he 379 00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:12.319 like dresses in this like ancient Celtic attire, and he 380 00:21:12.400 --> 00:21:16.279 calls himself as like a modern pagan priest, and he's 381 00:21:16.279 --> 00:21:20.240 talking about the myths of Merlin and Arthur. And I 382 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:22.880 think he was a British guy, and he was saying 383 00:21:24.000 --> 00:21:26.480 exactly what you just said, Like it's there comes a 384 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:29.440 certain point where you know, like Jeffrey of Monmouth, was 385 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:32.680 he making this up? Was he basing this on real 386 00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:35.039 historical evidence? He was like at some point though, it 387 00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:42.319 calls into question was he possibly channeling material like something 388 00:21:42.319 --> 00:21:44.480 that we would call it in modern times or as 389 00:21:44.480 --> 00:21:46.960 he said, an aquarium times. You know, we talk about 390 00:21:47.000 --> 00:21:50.759 this channeling material and getting this information from the spirit world. 391 00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:54.640 Perhaps that could have been regarded as primitive ancient channeled material, 392 00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:57.119 all these writings of this Merlin figure. 393 00:21:58.359 --> 00:22:01.440 That's what I'm saying. That's the thing, Like it gets 394 00:22:01.480 --> 00:22:03.440 to a point where it doesn't matter, Like there are 395 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:11.519 accounts throughout antiquity of people receiving messages from Merlin, like 396 00:22:11.839 --> 00:22:17.200 the Spirit of Merlin. To this day, there are entire 397 00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:20.279 there's a cult of Merlin, like there is a and 398 00:22:20.359 --> 00:22:22.640 it is spread throughout the world. Here I wrote a 399 00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:24.039 little bit about it. Let's just go ahead, and I 400 00:22:24.079 --> 00:22:26.200 don't know anything, let's just jump there. Spread around the world, 401 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:29.839