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Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it yet, we are giving away
Speaker 1: radios for the first few months of the year. I
Speaker 1: don't know how many months I'm gonna do this, at
Speaker 1: least three. We gave away an eight ninety one last
Speaker 1: it was actually about two weeks ago. It was the
Speaker 1: first weekend of It was the first Sunday of February
Speaker 1: this time in February. That was the January giveaway, but
Speaker 1: we did it the first Sunday of February this time
Speaker 1: for February, we're giving it away a brand new Icy
Speaker 1: seven five, brand new IC seven oh five. The url
Speaker 1: which Frank, I'm not sure if you have that or not,
Speaker 1: but it's uh him radio two dot com forward slash
Speaker 1: February twenty five and I'll see, yeah, there it is
Speaker 1: right there. Let me grab that real quick and put
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Speaker 1: I'm probably going to do that giveaway live stream because
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be out next Sunday it's up
Speaker 1: in the air right now, but I think I'm going
Speaker 1: to be out next Sunday, so i might do a
Speaker 1: Monday night live stream like the day after that. So
Speaker 1: but I'll let you guys know for sure, I'll share
Speaker 1: that with everybody where the cutoff is. For that, we're
Speaker 1: gonna give away an icy seven oh five. You want
Speaker 1: to know something that's really fun, well not fun, but ironic.
Speaker 1: You want to know something that's really kind of ironic
Speaker 1: and disheartening a little bit. Not one person from the
Speaker 1: giveaway last month has claimed their prize yet. So if
Speaker 1: you won the eight ninety one or the Devo slider
Speaker 1: one of the coffee packages last month, you need to
Speaker 1: contact me. And I've emailed you. That was the night
Speaker 1: before I left for ham kash So I went to Mcashon,
Speaker 1: drove out there, spent a week on the road for Hamcashon,
Speaker 1: came back and emailed everybody. So it was about a
Speaker 1: week later. Give everyone chance to do team replay on
Speaker 1: the live stream, and no one has. One guy replied
Speaker 1: to me and I'm waiting on his coffee selection, but
Speaker 1: no one has claimed the eight ninety one. The winner
Speaker 1: of the eight ninety one, I have not contact or
Speaker 1: been in contact with in the winner of the Devil Slide.
Speaker 1: I have not been in contact with so hopefully we
Speaker 1: will see that soon. So if you are that person,
Speaker 1: please contact me. I put some new mystery boxes up
Speaker 1: on the channel yes day, No Friday Friday, and one
Speaker 1: guy jumped on it immediately. It was not Andy eighty
Speaker 1: zero am so a zero am. Yeah, it wasn't him
Speaker 1: because he usually jumps on it pretty quick, but somebody
Speaker 1: else did. So send those out to send out the
Speaker 1: link in the email blasts today, So you guys go
Speaker 1: check that out if you're interested in that. I'm going
Speaker 1: to be hitting the road again this week. I'll be
Speaker 1: out of town for three or four days this week,
Speaker 1: so I'll ship some stuff tomorrow and then if I
Speaker 1: don't get it out tomorrow, it's gonna be probably the
Speaker 1: weekend before I get to it. So just heads up there.
Speaker 1: But no, Troy, you do not have to be present
Speaker 1: to win. You just have to reply to my email.
Speaker 1: That's all you gotta do. Reply to my email, so
Speaker 1: you do not have to be present to win for
Speaker 1: any of that. All right, let's bring uh, Let's bring
Speaker 1: Steve and frank In unmute that. What's up? Guys? How
Speaker 1: are you all get?
Speaker 2: How you're doing? I am here Monday night stream? You
Speaker 2: come on my stream on ham Nuggets and give that
Speaker 2: radio away. I could think of all the production time
Speaker 2: and cost it would save.
Speaker 1: You really really enjoyed that twelve hundred watch account of
Speaker 1: my of my live stream. I did last months for that,
Speaker 1: and I will make sure to schedule around you, Steve.
Speaker 1: I will not interfere with your stream.
Speaker 3: And you know that Devil's life. I think I can
Speaker 3: find a happy home for it over here probably.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the second time I've given that one
Speaker 1: away because the first person, well there was a story
Speaker 1: behind that. But yeah, still Franks, No, you know what, Frank,
Speaker 1: I got an affiliate link for you. I'll send it
Speaker 1: to you happy. So oh yeah, but that's good you
Speaker 1: unmuted Frank. You were brave. Oh oh that's ed. That's good.
Speaker 1: So t o. What's going on? Man? Are you? Where
Speaker 1: are you sitting right now?
Speaker 2: I am in Arizona. It was seventy eight degrees today.
Speaker 2: It was fantastic.
Speaker 1: I hate you right now, I really do all of this.
Speaker 1: It was seventy degrees here yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was, and it was beautiful.
Speaker 1: And now it's forty four. It was twenty nine when
Speaker 1: I woke up this morning. So yeah, yeah, that's a thing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I've been playing with solar. I put
Speaker 2: some solar panels on my roof right above my head here,
Speaker 2: and then you can see this red and black wire here,
Speaker 2: and this black thing over here is the solar charge controller.
Speaker 2: That's going to be a test bench for charge controllers
Speaker 2: and inverters and batteries and so on.
Speaker 1: It's awesome.
Speaker 2: He'sup plywood mounted on the wall so I can zip,
Speaker 2: screw things in, screw things out, change out parts.
Speaker 1: Good, good, excellent.
Speaker 2: I've got insurance.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, you know what, whatever works for you, man,
Speaker 1: just don't just hopefully your slide room doesn't fall apart.
Speaker 2: That's all.
Speaker 1: That's all I ask.
Speaker 2: And I don't have the swin Tech slides.
Speaker 1: You're lucky then.
Speaker 3: Well, the bad part about your slides was the emergency
Speaker 3: manual part to get to to do it manually was
Speaker 3: underneath the slider room, right, so you can do it
Speaker 3: manually without And it.
Speaker 1: Didn't come it didn't come with a tool of its
Speaker 1: own at all.
Speaker 2: I've said it before. I think all RV manufacturers should
Speaker 2: be required to spend one week living in their RV
Speaker 2: in everyone that they make, you'd be surprised how fast
Speaker 2: we'd innovate, how fast we'd fix this stupid.
Speaker 1: That is a that is a good idea. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like them.
Speaker 2: So my toilet seat likes to fall down while I'm
Speaker 2: using the toilet seat while it's supposed to be up.
Speaker 2: Let's put it that way. Men in the chat, which
Speaker 2: are most of you, understand what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: I think your wife says that's a feature.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about a pucker moment, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 1: That's funny.
Speaker 2: And it's just because of where they set the toilet
Speaker 2: up against the wall. They turned it. They turned it,
Speaker 2: you know, forty five degrees from the wall.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that'supid. So all right, if you can't
Speaker 1: see this, this is a quade. Wind Link over Android,
Speaker 1: and I have been I've had a wind Link account
Speaker 1: for I don't know, maybe four or five years, maybe
Speaker 1: longer than that. Seems like I had it before COVID.
Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I've had a wind Link account
Speaker 1: for a number of years. I use it oft and on. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I got to give Mike props cadaan to Mardie because
Speaker 1: he brought his broke ass mac to uh to field
Speaker 1: Day winterfield Day, and he was talking about how much
Speaker 1: he was he was fighting with it, but he was
Speaker 1: but over on the Apple Os. But you know, I
Speaker 1: let him tinker with it on my uh my Windows
Speaker 1: box and wind Link Express was written for Windows good bad,
Speaker 1: right R. I'm not saying that's just the way it was.
Speaker 1: So he kind of re invigorated my interest in wind
Speaker 1: Link over winter field Day. So we were we did
Speaker 1: we took part in the km for a CK winterfield
Speaker 1: Day challenge to download like a list and send an
Speaker 1: email to somebody and get a reply and send it
Speaker 1: to somebody else. Whatever it was, we did it. Whatever
Speaker 1: it was, I don't remember now. It was like it
Speaker 1: was three or four steps. It was easy, but you know,
Speaker 1: and we did it over forty meters I believe, and
Speaker 1: it was pretty easy to get into the forty meter
Speaker 1: Vora Vora HF modem that we were using at the time.
Speaker 1: So that was that was fun. I I I enjoyed
Speaker 1: doing that. And then since then, of course Ack was
Speaker 1: at hmcash last weekend, so we did a lot of wind,
Speaker 1: and there's there was a and I remember from last
Speaker 1: year there was a wind Link gateway not too far
Speaker 1: for a two meter packet when Link gateway not too
Speaker 1: far from there at all. And uh, and I use
Speaker 1: the heck out of that. I checked in win Link
Speaker 1: at least once a day when I was out there
Speaker 1: at and this this radio that I'm going to try
Speaker 1: to talk Frank into getting, which is the uv PRO Yep, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got enough battery left so that uv PRO is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the VGC. So I wonder, Steve, have you done an
Speaker 1: actual comparison between those two radios.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's very very minor differences. And the uv PRO
Speaker 2: one of the channel banks is taken up by Noah
Speaker 2: Weather channels, which then allows you to do scanning of
Speaker 2: the Noah Weather channels. And I think it has weather alerts.
Speaker 2: You can manually do that on this, but it doesn't
Speaker 2: have the weather alerts, okay. And the uv PRO is
Speaker 2: like ten dollars cheaper.
Speaker 1: Is is it really ten dollars cheaper? Okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to say it's one sixty four for
Speaker 2: the uv PRO and then the VGC is one seventy
Speaker 2: four after my ten dollars discount, but you can't get
Speaker 2: the the b tech in colors and now comes in
Speaker 2: prison edition prison clear beer case, and then you can
Speaker 2: see oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, all right, prison edition.
Speaker 1: Sure I have a ten I have a ten dollars
Speaker 1: discount for the UV Pro from bellfin Tech, so I
Speaker 1: can get you yeah, yeah, something like that. So, uh,
Speaker 1: is there a poly pissy pissy pants beer tonight? No,
Speaker 1: TC fits, I don't drink I p a's, but thank
Speaker 1: you for asking, and.
Speaker 2: I think that attack.
Speaker 1: And then uh and then he asked earlier with a
Speaker 1: twenty dollars super chat is is that a member of
Speaker 1: the Coffee and Ham Radio Any friend of Chuck is
Speaker 1: a friend of mine, So there you go. He knows Chuck.
Speaker 1: Thank you TC fitz for the support, buddy. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: Mike hat I left my freaking uv pro home for hamcshion.
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring it. I knew we were going
Speaker 1: to be doing APRS stuff, so I just used my
Speaker 1: D seventy four the whole weekend. And obviously that's a
Speaker 1: fantastic radio. Absolutely nothing in the world wrong with that radio,
Speaker 1: Little battery life. But other than that, Mike had this
Speaker 1: problem with his VGC where it kept squawking in the
Speaker 1: when he would unkey it was almost like it wouldn't
Speaker 1: a Roger B but this squawk. So he went into
Speaker 1: the settings and it was set, and there was some
Speaker 1: setting in there that kept turning itself back on. He
Speaker 1: would turn it off, and it would turn it set
Speaker 1: like even like he thought it was because he powered
Speaker 1: the radio down and then powered back up. But then
Speaker 1: later that like the second day, he was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's back on. I haven't even powered the radio off today.
Speaker 1: So there's some kind of bug that powers on something
Speaker 1: in the APRS settings that makes all those noises and whatnot.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of the menu right now,
Speaker 1: but signaling settings, Mike says, the signaling settings inside of
Speaker 1: that VGC, they kept turning themselves back on. So I
Speaker 1: gotta see, I haven't tried that on this one. But
Speaker 1: when I key up and talk to myself over this radio,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make that squawking noise at the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Mike, by the way, I did find out
Speaker 2: how to turn off the APRS audio in your ear
Speaker 2: hole on that radio because Mike and I both had
Speaker 2: that problem at handcasion where if we were. If we
Speaker 2: had aps turned on all day long, it would just
Speaker 2: get APRS messages and radio is useless at that point.
Speaker 2: But I figured out how to turn that off.
Speaker 1: Oh good, okay, okay, So I wonder if that I
Speaker 1: wonder if that problem exists in this this be tech,
Speaker 1: this be to I know that the VGC is full
Speaker 1: open transmit illegally, which you know it is what it is.
Speaker 1: I don't care. But this b tech, if it matters
Speaker 1: to you, is actually a part in any radio. So
Speaker 1: it's full open transmit also, but in the right way.
Speaker 1: I don't know if the signaling. I would like to
Speaker 1: put each one of those on a time see what
Speaker 1: they want.
Speaker 2: What is the right way to be full open transmit legally?
Speaker 2: And then why is the other one illegal? I I
Speaker 2: know what you're talking about, but I don't understand the
Speaker 2: way that you said it. Oh well, you out. I'm
Speaker 2: genuinely want to know it's part.
Speaker 1: It hasn't. The the b tech has a legit Part
Speaker 1: ninety certification from the FCC. Okay, v the VGC is
Speaker 1: just sold as a Chinese radio that does everything. To
Speaker 1: my understanding, that's how I understand. I don't think that
Speaker 1: you have a FCC rating on the VGC, I will,
Speaker 1: But the b Tech does the uh.
Speaker 2: The VERO does do transmit on gm RS as an example,
Speaker 2: which is what we're talking about open transmit.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah, yes, I yeah, I know, I know that.
Speaker 1: I know that the vio is is open full of
Speaker 1: in transmit. Yes, agreed, But the but the but the
Speaker 1: b Tech has the actual Part ninety certification.
Speaker 2: So again, as much as I like to argue, I'm
Speaker 2: not calling you out.
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, that's a good question. It's it's a
Speaker 1: good question. Yeah, no, I'm just saying that it's uh
Speaker 1: for those who for those who care about legalities, it's
Speaker 1: the b Tech is an actual Part niney radio. So
Speaker 1: mm hmm. So yeah, Mike says, please tell me how
Speaker 1: to mute APRS.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, fcc ID, Mike, edit the channel specifically that
Speaker 2: you've got it set on APRS and it's in the
Speaker 2: channel setting for that specific channel. Just mute the whole channel.
Speaker 1: Forty five autos that because Btex is the US company,
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not. I mean, there are legit Bowfang radios
Speaker 1: that have Part ninety certified. There's a UV eighty two
Speaker 1: Charlie Charlie for commercial that has a part ninety five
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, a part ninety certification from the FCC. I
Speaker 1: don't uh, I'm not one hundred percent convinced that Balfang
Speaker 1: isn't just printing FCC stickers at their factory. Yes, but nevertheless,
Speaker 1: I mean there are some legit bowfangs that have a
Speaker 1: FCC ratings, So I don't think that it's partner. I
Speaker 1: said it wrong. VI part ninety, part nine zero, not
Speaker 1: ninety five. Part ninety five is GMRSFRS, but no part
Speaker 1: ninety rating is full open transmit on two and usually
Speaker 1: like four hundred and four eighty something like that. So
Speaker 1: it'll cover all of the ham radio bands merge, gm
Speaker 1: RSFRS Marine band that I it'll cover everything. So anyway, okay,
Speaker 1: so channel muted. Thanks. Uh let me see I think
Speaker 1: I put did I put? No? I didn't. I'll get that.
Speaker 1: I'll get that link for you guys here in a matute.
Speaker 1: I should have put the link to that uv pro
Speaker 1: in the chat, but I didn't, so I got this
Speaker 1: met so again anyway, So I was saying about wind
Speaker 1: link a minute ago, and we were using it all
Speaker 1: throughout hamcash and I have. There's a wind link gateway,
Speaker 1: a packet wind link gateway that's about I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe four or five miles as the crow flies that
Speaker 1: way from me. That way it's in South Lake, just
Speaker 1: north of me.
Speaker 2: Because it makes a difference.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I'm just saying that.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that way is, yeah from you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's north of me. Uh, and
Speaker 1: I cannot I was thinking West, I cannot get into Well,
Speaker 1: it's just the closest one. There's one west. Also, I
Speaker 1: cannot get into it from an ht on on a
Speaker 1: rubber duck, but I can get it. But I have
Speaker 1: the b tech plugged into my external in intent right
Speaker 1: now and I can. I can easily get into it
Speaker 1: all day long. I took it up to my mailbox
Speaker 1: the other day and I had the the uv pro
Speaker 1: clip to my my son visor in the truck and
Speaker 1: I was getting into it from there. So it's got
Speaker 1: pretty good range for a ht forhe where I.
Speaker 2: And that was horizontally polarized too.
Speaker 1: It was yeah, it's real good. Yep. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: so I've been checking when link emails. I checked whin
Speaker 1: link emails right before the stream started. If you guys
Speaker 1: want to send me a win link email, It's case
Speaker 1: five HWB, so I will respond to you. I will
Speaker 1: respond to you. So I got to send you on
Speaker 1: Steve just to say I did it. So but when
Speaker 1: I saw that, and I think that, uh I think
Speaker 1: I saw this video of yours before HM cashion Steve,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, yeah, I want to I want
Speaker 1: to tinker with that. So Steve did this video about
Speaker 1: how to easily set up a win Link gateway with
Speaker 1: h with an application called digipi, which is I guess
Speaker 1: a whole image and and it looks a lot like
Speaker 1: build a Pie, like Cam far ACK's Build a Pie.
Speaker 1: Because it's got option you can use it for a PRS,
Speaker 1: you can use it for I think ws J t X,
Speaker 1: and there's a bunch of a bunch of other stuff
Speaker 1: in there. So win Link gateway is one thing it'll do,
Speaker 1: but it's not the only thing we'll do. But uh
Speaker 1: so we're gonna look at that today. I wanted to
Speaker 1: put something like that together today and see what we
Speaker 1: could do. So that's why I invited Steve onto the
Speaker 1: U to the show. So tell us about what you
Speaker 1: learned about doing this Steve.
Speaker 2: So there's there's quite a bit of stuff, and if
Speaker 2: you have never operated a server before, that's that's where
Speaker 2: this actually gets to be a little more difficult. The
Speaker 2: radio stuff is fairly easy, fairly straightforward, especially with the
Speaker 2: Digipi Raspberry Pie image because Craig does all the heavy
Speaker 2: lifting for u k LW. But you want to be
Speaker 2: aware of like, this is supposed to be a service
Speaker 2: that you're providing the community in your area, and if
Speaker 2: you're doing this on HF, it's a service that you're
Speaker 2: providing potentially worldwide, and people are going to come to
Speaker 2: rely and depend on this thing, and you need to
Speaker 2: set it up to be reliable and dependable if you're
Speaker 2: really going to go after it, if you're really going
Speaker 2: to do the service proud, you know the way it's
Speaker 2: supposed to be done. So battery backup, ups, solar panels,
Speaker 2: security so that nobody can break into your handshack and
Speaker 2: turn it off, and the win Link server software takes
Speaker 2: care of identification so you don't have to worry about
Speaker 2: setting up an identification beacon. It does that for you,
Speaker 2: but you do have to worry about you know the
Speaker 2: sec rules. You know you're staying in license compliance. You
Speaker 2: have to be able to log into the system remotely
Speaker 2: and shut it off. And that can be an Alexa device,
Speaker 2: it can be x dot twenty five. I think it
Speaker 2: is X ten way back in the in the day,
Speaker 2: an X ten device that you know just shuts off
Speaker 2: the power. But if you're if you're doing this again,
Speaker 2: think your think your way through test these scenarios. Because
Speaker 2: this radio has a battery backup. So if I left
Speaker 2: this radio plugged into like a USBC cable and I
Speaker 2: turned off the wall outlet, I've still got another n
Speaker 2: hours of uptime where this thing might still be locked
Speaker 2: in transmit and minutes of uptime where it might still
Speaker 2: be locked in transmit or something along those lines. So
Speaker 2: you have to kind of put those thoughts into play
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 1: So I get that that's a good that's a good
Speaker 1: way to look at it. I have. I didn't look
Speaker 1: at it that way. My this, uh, this right here
Speaker 1: is going to be a test bed for me because
Speaker 1: I want to set this one up and I wanted
Speaker 1: to do I wanted to do a portable node and
Speaker 1: they apparently don't like that. But there is something when
Speaker 1: you when you fill out and you have to send
Speaker 1: an email to some guy at win linked dot org.
Speaker 1: If in fact, if we I'll pull it up, it's right.
Speaker 2: Sure have the page.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. If I go here and win link right here,
Speaker 1: and I become a wind Link gateway cysop right there
Speaker 1: on the right hand side, and then you click on
Speaker 1: that link and oh it doesn't work there it goes okay,
Speaker 1: join the join the sysop team. It's got all these
Speaker 1: stuff you got to read through here, which is it
Speaker 1: doesn't take but a minute to read that. So you
Speaker 1: have to send your name and call sign the base
Speaker 1: call sign of the gateway station.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: And it must be a call sign under your control
Speaker 1: of course.
Speaker 2: So like so you were your club, right, yeah, trust.
Speaker 1: The right exactly. That's what you did with you set.
Speaker 2: Up k toads, right, I set up k toads yep.
Speaker 1: Right cool? Uh, state your agreement to commit and operate
Speaker 1: within these guidelines these guidelines above here and a reference
Speaker 1: to confirm the affiliation with an established MCom organization if
Speaker 1: you intend to operate the station as a temporary or
Speaker 1: portable asset. So that makes me wonder if I should
Speaker 1: try to get something with one of the InCom groups
Speaker 1: I'm a part of to do something just for that, so, right,
Speaker 1: that might be a step for the future. I may
Speaker 1: or may not try to do that in the future,
Speaker 1: but my original and my original hope was to do
Speaker 1: it as a portable node. And I understand that they
Speaker 1: want they want to know where where the nodes are
Speaker 1: so they can populate them and have people use them
Speaker 1: and have them money.
Speaker 2: They're trying to create infrastructure, right, That's like I said before,
Speaker 2: that's reliable, and you moving your radio means it's going
Speaker 2: to be turned off while you move it potentially.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, true, true. So but but I sent an
Speaker 1: email to get that and I was like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to move it, and uh and I didn't really.
Speaker 1: I just answered the first three questions, really, and I
Speaker 1: think he replied back to me like two hours later,
Speaker 1: and I got I got Now it's pretty quick.
Speaker 2: Okay, don't don't write them a book, don't tell them
Speaker 2: about your financial situation. You know, this isn't eighty meters.
Speaker 2: Just answer the questions or three questions and Hilbert truth,
Speaker 2: the more you type, the longer it's going to take
Speaker 2: to get a response.
Speaker 1: True. Yeah, yeah, it's a good point. So all right,
Speaker 1: so I download so if we go here to digipie,
Speaker 1: which is craiger dot org for slash Digipie. KM six
Speaker 1: l y W is the one who makes this download here,
Speaker 1: And that down load was awfully slow. I think it
Speaker 1: took about an hour to download that.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I did it. It's usually doesn't take that long,
Speaker 2: does it not?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I must have. I must have hit it
Speaker 1: on a time when he was having multiple downloads.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bled it down.
Speaker 1: Eh. Maybe my five hundred five hundred meg up and
Speaker 1: down fiber connection was probably too slow for it, probably.
Speaker 2: So, But but it took away.
Speaker 1: It took a while to do. It wasn't bad. But
Speaker 1: I downloaded that. I burned it to a microst card.
Speaker 1: I plugged it into a Raspberry I have a Pie
Speaker 1: three Steve because that's just what I had land on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, should be perfect.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The only thing I don't like about the Pie
Speaker 1: three is that it runs over micro USB.
Speaker 2: So so win link. The official name of wind Link
Speaker 2: is w L two k when link two, which should
Speaker 2: tell you about when it came out and what it
Speaker 2: was written for. So a Pie three is actually overpowered.
Speaker 1: Well, that's that's a good that's a good way to
Speaker 1: look at it. Yeah, yeah, good deal. So so I
Speaker 1: got that downloaded, I've got it installed, and i've got
Speaker 1: it right here if you can see it, we've.
Speaker 2: Got it good enough.
Speaker 1: HDM. I captured into one of my ports here and
Speaker 1: it's at the login screen and I didn't I didn't
Speaker 1: read far enough to see what the login information.
Speaker 2: Was, So you don't to go this far, okay, and
Speaker 2: that this is totally cool. What what it will do
Speaker 2: is it will create its own automatic Wi Fi hotspot
Speaker 2: right and it might be better if you looked at
Speaker 2: this on your phone since we're live streaming over this connection. Okay,
Speaker 2: so look for the digipie Wi Fi access point.
Speaker 1: I've actually got it plugged into Ethernet right now, so
Speaker 1: it's possible it turned that off.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. If you've got to plug into Ethernet, then
Speaker 2: you might be able to just get straight in via
Speaker 2: the IP address if you have a way of finding
Speaker 2: out the IPA dress.
Speaker 1: I do have a digipie.
Speaker 2: Never wired this in.
Speaker 1: I just did it because I'm here in the shack
Speaker 1: and i've got to I've got a switch right here.
Speaker 1: I've got a next fight.
Speaker 2: It would be better if it's wired, you know.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, I mean obviously you you uh yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: In a wireless hobby, you won as many wires as possible,
Speaker 2: antenna wires, coax wires, power wires.
Speaker 1: Ed wants to know if it'd run on a Pie zero.
Speaker 1: Which one is the Pie zero you told me to.
Speaker 2: The Pie zero two w is the one that you
Speaker 2: want to run it on. The Pi zero by itself
Speaker 2: is a single core seven hundred megahertz machine. Not fast enough.
Speaker 2: You want the zero two, which is a four core machine.
Speaker 2: I think it's one and a half gigahertz. It's not important,
Speaker 2: but you know, the four cores is the important part.
Speaker 3: Also, the w is because it's wireless.
Speaker 2: Wireless.
Speaker 1: Ah good, good, Okay, Yeah, I have an old Pie
Speaker 1: two floating around here somewhere that I remember having to
Speaker 1: add Wi Fi USB dongle two because the Pie two
Speaker 1: didn't have Wi Fi built into go figure. But okay,
Speaker 1: all right, so it's wired in right now, and or I.
Speaker 2: Try to go to its IP address. Okay, in a
Speaker 2: web browser, I can let me find with the while
Speaker 2: you're doing that, the the Wi Fi access point that
Speaker 2: you do. You go to that Wi Fi access pointed like,
Speaker 2: like I told Jason, it's better to do it on
Speaker 2: your cell phone, and then you go to ten zero
Speaker 2: zero five I think is the IPA dress, or you
Speaker 2: can go to digipi dot local in your browser. It's HTTP,
Speaker 2: not HTTPS because ham radio is not supposed to be encrypted.
Speaker 2: And then from there there is a configuration page where
Speaker 2: you can figure it to be on your Wi Fi.
Speaker 2: Just do the Wi Fi configuration only, save it and reboot,
Speaker 2: and we'll show that when Jason finds the ip dress.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to take up some time while Jason's
Speaker 2: getting that sorted out and figured out. But it will
Speaker 2: it will auto ap auto access point if you don't
Speaker 2: have it already configured, and if you do have it
Speaker 2: already configured and it can't find that network, it will
Speaker 2: also auto access point. And then you can use this
Speaker 2: trick on your cell phone to set its IP address,
Speaker 2: join the Wi Fi network that you're on, or just
Speaker 2: use its Wi Fi network from your cell phone and
Speaker 2: take it from there. When you are doing a win
Speaker 2: Link server, you do need an Internet connection, so be
Speaker 2: cognizant of that. Most of the other services on the digipi,
Speaker 2: like FTA, JSA call aprs. That kind of stuff does
Speaker 2: not need an IP Internet connection, but this wind Link
Speaker 2: server side does, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The whole purpose of a wind Link gateway is so
Speaker 1: that it can send and receive your messages via RF
Speaker 1: and then transmit them over over the interwebs and do
Speaker 1: regular emails.
Speaker 2: To connect gateway to gateway to gateway.
Speaker 1: Yep, oh yeah yeah. Okay, So I got the IP address.
Speaker 1: Do I need to put anything after it after putting
Speaker 1: it into a browser?
Speaker 2: Uh no, because it's not loading.
Speaker 1: Stop up, it's not loading by itself right now?
Speaker 2: HTTP.
Speaker 1: Let me make sure I don't.
Speaker 2: I think I just and like I said, I have
Speaker 2: never done this wired, so it may not even support
Speaker 2: it because I don't even know if Craig is done
Speaker 2: it wired. It's it's design that you take the zero
Speaker 2: two W into the field with you and do field stuff.
Speaker 1: I see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's trying to do secure So you have
Speaker 2: to type in HTTP col inside.
Speaker 1: Well I just did that. This is just stupid. Chrome
Speaker 1: wanted to putt put an s.
Speaker 3: And it's side of force. Can't you just go to there?
Speaker 2: It is there?
Speaker 1: You got it? It just too okay, And I had
Speaker 1: to I had to just hit refresh a couple of times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, like I was saying on the bottom, so
Speaker 2: you have all of the services and you can look
Speaker 2: at those a PRS, TNC I gate, APRS, HF, TNC iGATE, APRS, dgpter, APRS,
Speaker 2: GPS tracker, webchat AX twenty five networking, which is actually
Speaker 2: computer to computer networking. When link email server is going
Speaker 2: to be what we do today when link email client,
Speaker 2: which is how I set it up. I had one
Speaker 2: that's a server and one that's a client, So two
Speaker 2: separate pies, two separate radios. The r DOP is actually
Speaker 2: a f astro modem. Then packet radio ring control would
Speaker 2: be used for ws JTX and he's got slow scan
Speaker 2: TV fl digit and JSA call. So this is a
Speaker 2: loaded image and all of this software once we get
Speaker 2: through this process will be one hundred percent configured, ready
Speaker 2: to go. So when you click on FT eight, it's
Speaker 2: already got your call sign, it's already got the radio configured,
Speaker 2: and so on. I wanted to get through that list
Speaker 2: real quick because that's important to get that word out.
Speaker 2: But if you scroll down a little bit more on
Speaker 2: that page, there's two links that are important all the
Speaker 2: way down to the blue links. There you go. On
Speaker 2: the first column you see Wi Fi and on the
Speaker 2: bottom of that you see the green initialize. So if
Speaker 2: you're doing this on your phone, just do the Wi Fi,
Speaker 2: save the CONFIGU and reboot, and then go in on
Speaker 2: your desktop computer system with your Internet connection and so forth,
Speaker 2: and then do the initialized. You don't have to, but
Speaker 2: it's easier that way if you're going to stay. If
Speaker 2: you this wired seems to be working out fines, you
Speaker 2: just click initialized.
Speaker 1: Just click initialize. Okay, I might set that up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But so type in your call sign, skip the
Speaker 2: password on wind link, fill out everything else.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And the reason why I'm telling you to skip the
Speaker 2: password is because it's going to show it in plain text.
Speaker 1: Right yeah, APRS password, I'm gonna skip that as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that that's not actually a password, that's just
Speaker 2: a generated thing. And this is why I want to
Speaker 2: do this on the internet. If you hit generate, it'll
Speaker 2: take you to the APRS pass Code Generator site where
Speaker 2: you can type in your call sign and it'll tell
Speaker 2: you your pass code. Oh okay, okay, And then the
Speaker 2: same thing with all the rest of these They all
Speaker 2: have these little you know, hot links to take you
Speaker 2: over to help you find out, which is why I
Speaker 2: like to do it on the internet instead of on
Speaker 2: my phone without internet access.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, latitude and longitude were already filled in.
Speaker 2: They're wrong, but they're filled Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: They're wrong obviously because it's something that was popular. Do
Speaker 1: do we need to click locate for that.
Speaker 2: Unless you know it by heart? Yeah, click locate locate
Speaker 2: and then just type in like Grapevine, Texas or whatever.
Speaker 2: Close enough, and we really don't need to know where
Speaker 2: your shack is. There we go, there, you go.
Speaker 1: Okay, so there.
Speaker 2: And okay, and after you've done this the first time,
Speaker 2: all of this stuff is cashed in your browser to
Speaker 2: drop down and like auto fill, you don't have a
Speaker 2: GPS device to leave that alone. Okay, twenty five note
Speaker 2: pass we're not actually doing that, so you can leave
Speaker 2: that the way it is. Okay, screen type, you can
Speaker 2: leave that alone. I don't think you have the screen,
Speaker 2: do you.
Speaker 1: I don't have a screen for it. No, do you
Speaker 1: have a screen on yours?
Speaker 2: I have a screen on two of mine. I have
Speaker 2: the little one point three inch which is the same
Speaker 2: size as the MMDVM screens. And now there is a
Speaker 2: three point five inch screen, which is the size of
Speaker 2: the raspberry pie itself. And that one's really sweet. So
Speaker 2: I have some videos on that as well.
Speaker 1: Do you have like a neat case to put the
Speaker 1: pie and the screen and everything in? So it's like
Speaker 1: one unit.
Speaker 2: For the one point three inch case, one point three
Speaker 2: inch screen there is a case, I believe, and for
Speaker 2: the three point five they the people that make the
Speaker 2: three point five inch screen don't make a case yet.
Speaker 2: And then Craig also has a couple like this. This
Speaker 2: image has become really popular, so people have actually made
Speaker 2: custom dedicated hardware for it also, I think, so, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's got he's got a big stack. So down the bottom,
Speaker 2: this last one here where it says radio interface is
Speaker 2: the next one we need to look at. You can
Speaker 2: see where it says f E Pie and I can't
Speaker 2: read that audio hat f you Pie is Iron Pie
Speaker 2: Audio hat gp IO. So there's if you drop that
Speaker 2: list down, there's a couple of choices in that list
Speaker 2: of different pie hats that he's got that work really well,
Speaker 2: that have been custom built for him. But you're gonna
Speaker 2: need to pick radio interface and we're gonna need to
Speaker 2: pick the radio talk about what's radio? You're using radio?
Speaker 1: Okay, so I've got so the dropdown done show in
Speaker 1: my window capture. But the choices are fe pie hat
Speaker 1: gp io and then USB connected radio, digirig dra pie
Speaker 1: zero hat, digipie hat audio injector hat and USB audio gpio.
Speaker 2: So what radio are you using and how is it connected?
Speaker 1: I want to use this. I want to use this
Speaker 1: FT sixty five with the digi rig. But okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not one hundred percent convinced that I've got the right
Speaker 1: digirig cable for that radio. So I did grab my
Speaker 1: seven o five. I do have my seven o five
Speaker 1: right here, and we can use that tonight for the
Speaker 1: purposes of the video.
Speaker 2: Seven five is going to be the easiest.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's just let's just do the seven
Speaker 1: o five eventually. I want to, Jason said a c K.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, that FT sixty five makes for
Speaker 1: a great server at the house or whatnot. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a good idea. I've got one that
Speaker 1: I don't I don't do anything else with it, so
Speaker 1: it's a good thing to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a whole stack of them hanging up
Speaker 2: back here.
Speaker 1: That's what they do.
Speaker 2: They multiply in your sleep.
Speaker 1: I know it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have to have it. What are you want
Speaker 2: to use it for? I don't know, but I have
Speaker 2: to have it.
Speaker 1: I saw a guy on Reddit one time, call him
Speaker 1: call Balfan self replicating. They're they're all self replicating. So okay,
Speaker 1: uh so we're gonna use USB radio then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And on this image when you pick USB radio,
Speaker 2: these defaults here the rig number and the port and
Speaker 2: everything is already set up for the seven oh five
Speaker 2: because Craig has a seven oh five. Nice, so you're done.
Speaker 2: But if you don't have a seven o five. You
Speaker 2: see how it says rig number. I think it's thirty
Speaker 2: thirty five, And then it's a list, yeah, thirty. If
Speaker 2: you click on rig list, it opens up a new tab.
Speaker 2: And this. If you guys have ever used Hamlet before,
Speaker 2: which is what's baked into w S J t X
Speaker 2: and fl digit can use it, and rig control ri
Speaker 2: I g ctl on Linux uses it. This is like
Speaker 2: every radio ever made, and it's in alphabetical order, sorted
Speaker 2: by vendor name I believe, and alphabetical order is kind
Speaker 2: of weird because new numbers, I mean FRANKL back me
Speaker 2: up on this number sorted alphabetically, don't sort numerically. They
Speaker 2: sort alphabetically, right, So it's like seven hundred seventy one
Speaker 2: hundred seventy two hundred seven zero five or something like that.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do math on stream and you don't
Speaker 2: do that. But it's a difference that makes a little
Speaker 2: bit of a difference. So if you're looking for IC
Speaker 2: seven oh five, it's not necessarily going to be alphabetically
Speaker 2: numerically where you think it might be, but it's going
Speaker 2: to be in the icy sevens somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, is easy enough.
Speaker 2: Okay, but just control F type in your rig number
Speaker 2: and boom type in your your rig name.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Can so before you do anything else here, unshare the screen,
Speaker 2: type in your Wingling password and then hit the initialized
Speaker 2: button because it's going to show your password in plain
Speaker 2: text for everybody on stream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you, Okay, Oh look, it's a bunch
Speaker 1: of people ordered mystery boxes. I got to go look
Speaker 1: screen when password. I don't remember what it is. I think,
Speaker 1: actually you know what I think.
Speaker 2: I do remember what it is, Jody, I got you,
Speaker 2: fam control F or command f if you're on the
Speaker 2: right team on.
Speaker 1: The team okay, and they click initialize after.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, and it should automatically reboot. It should actually
Speaker 2: even say it.
Speaker 1: Says changes applied reboot for changes to take effect.
Speaker 2: Oh so you have to hit the reboot button.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we totally share this out except you know
Speaker 2: people already impersonate Jason enough. There's even a ham Radio
Speaker 2: three dot.
Speaker 1: Zho I know I saw that. Yeah, no, it's it
Speaker 1: came up and it said it reset it, it reset
Speaker 1: all the fields, but it said changes applied at the
Speaker 1: bottom and it had a reboot button. So right now
Speaker 1: it says DIGIPI will be available on this ip in
Speaker 1: approximately one minute, So it's rebooting right now.
Speaker 2: So the other cool thing about this, and we talked
Speaker 2: about this a little bit when you're talking about power
Speaker 2: requirements and remote shut off stuff. The way Craig has
Speaker 2: set this image up, the sd card is read only.
Speaker 2: So there's two things that are going to come into
Speaker 2: play with that. One is you can hard yank the
Speaker 2: power out from underneath of the Raspberry Pie and not
Speaker 2: hurt the file system, which is a great big no systems.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 2: But the other thing to be aware of. Is that like,
Speaker 2: if you're doing FT eight on this you're you're going
Speaker 2: to lose your log. So if you do a parks
Speaker 2: on the air activation using this device, which you can do,
Speaker 2: and then you turn it off and go home to
Speaker 2: upload your logs later, you don't have logs later. You've
Speaker 2: just done.
Speaker 1: You've just lost because it's because it's read only.
Speaker 2: Yep, it'll FT eight all day long, but you once
Speaker 2: you pull the power, it hasn't saved anything.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha, got you got got gotcha? Hmmm.
Speaker 2: Okay, Craig doesn't f T eight, doesn't uh doesn't PoTA
Speaker 2: he does f T eight, so he hasn't fixed that yet.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that that that would that would be frustrating
Speaker 1: because ws j T just has that auto logger back
Speaker 1: into the Yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally expect to go home and just copy
Speaker 2: the last ten lines out of the log right right.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 2: You'd probably back up by now.
Speaker 1: Let's is all right.
Speaker 2: So Curtis and Lee are talking about DIGIPI versus digi rig.
Speaker 2: Those are two separate things. The digi rig is the
Speaker 2: small black box USB sound interface and DIGIPI is the
Speaker 2: software that you run on a Raspberry Pie to do
Speaker 2: things with the digi rig interface. So you need both
Speaker 2: of those. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: This is a digi rig right here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like you can't install FT eight on a
Speaker 2: digit rig, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a sound card interface as all it is.
Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, it's uh it's back up.
Speaker 2: Good, awesome, all right, So now hit the wind Link
Speaker 2: email server button, turn it on with your seven oh
Speaker 2: five connected, and you're done.
Speaker 1: Let me uh, let me grabn.
Speaker 2: Like it's that simple, really, So I just plugged this.
Speaker 1: I just power this. I'm power the seven o five one,
Speaker 1: and we use the USB cable from the seven o
Speaker 1: five to the We use the micro USB.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, the only USB USB.
Speaker 1: When I think icon, I think USB B and I
Speaker 1: just had that my head. But of course, of course
Speaker 1: it's micro US.
Speaker 2: It's a small radio. They've got to use the small
Speaker 2: it's a micro radio. They have to use the micro USB.
Speaker 2: And you can get a USB C adapter to screw
Speaker 2: into your seven o five. I need to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that. They there's actually like a conversion
Speaker 1: you can do to to open up the radio and
Speaker 1: remove the US the micro USB and put in the USBC.
Speaker 1: But I'm told it doesn't actually add fast charging. It's
Speaker 1: just it's just a plug that's the same speed and
Speaker 1: bust rate and everything as micro USB. So I'm like, eh, whatever,
Speaker 1: So it does.
Speaker 2: It does two things for you. So if you if
Speaker 2: you have the what is the name of that tuner,
Speaker 2: the m AT seven at, Yeah, that I know why
Speaker 2: they did it. I I kind of agree with it.
Speaker 2: I kind of don't. But the m AT seven oh
Speaker 2: five has a USB C connector on it like it
Speaker 2: should and the seven oh five has a micro USB
Speaker 2: like it shouldn't. So that's one thing is it gets
Speaker 2: gets you to only carry one cable for charging your
Speaker 2: tuner and connecting your radio to USB, so you don't
Speaker 2: need to carry two different cables. The second thing that
Speaker 2: it does is if you are the kind of person
Speaker 2: that uses an amplifier, the UH send ALC port is
Speaker 2: also replaced and the circuitry behind that is replaced to
Speaker 2: be a little more robust. I don't use the kind
Speaker 2: of amplifiers that have that buffer requirement, the weird voltage
Speaker 2: spikes that would fry modern radios I use. I use
Speaker 2: the Zaigu XPA one twenty five VIA but thousands of
Speaker 2: contacts through it. Oh, just directly connected to the seven
Speaker 2: oh five. But if you were to connect like an
Speaker 2: ALADB or you know, other like old tube amp to it,
Speaker 2: you might get wild voltages that would fry your seven
Speaker 2: oh five. And the new thing is supposed to help
Speaker 2: with that. I'm not going to guarantee anything. I'm not
Speaker 2: going to talk out of school on it, but it's
Speaker 2: it's more robust. Okay, is the end of my knowledge.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to do something that I should probably
Speaker 1: have done already and plug an antenna into this thing.
Speaker 2: That might help too. Yeah, because once you have this
Speaker 2: wind link, which you haven't done yet, you're fine. Once
Speaker 2: you have the Windling Server one, it's going to start
Speaker 2: beaconing that hey I exist and I've done my ten
Speaker 2: minute SECID compliance.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Okay, it's a short.
Speaker 2: Enough burst that it's probably not gonna hurt your radio,
Speaker 2: but you know, do the right hand thing.
Speaker 1: I've got the Yeah, No, I want to do it correctly.
Speaker 1: I've got the I've got the seven o five in
Speaker 1: this armelot cage and it's got a B and C
Speaker 1: connector on it, and I don't have a B and
Speaker 1: c antenna here with me. So I'm gonna run in
Speaker 1: the house and I'm gonna get one of my signal sticks.
Speaker 2: I think Frank and I will handle it.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, I think you guys can hold on.
Speaker 1: Let me make sure people can see Frank.
Speaker 3: There, I am Hey, what is up? What did the
Speaker 3: two screen goes?
Speaker 1: Oh? There it is right there. There, it is right there. Okay, good, yeah,
Speaker 1: so let me go. Let me go to that.
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, there it is.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Frank and Teo Show.
Speaker 3: So today our topic is takeovers? Are they good or bad?
Speaker 3: On live streams?
Speaker 2: They are fantastic on live streams. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 2: this stream just got three better.
Speaker 3: Oh I do agree, I do agree. So, uh, how
Speaker 3: how is the other live streaming going that that we're
Speaker 3: stepping on right now?
Speaker 2: Are we stepping on another line?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't watch
Speaker 2: that channel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. He's not even ready he had
Speaker 3: run inside. But what kind of host does that?
Speaker 2: Does he think? This is Ham Nuggets on Monday Night
Speaker 2: on temporarily offline Ham Radio, the show where we do
Speaker 2: everything real time with zero preparation, on purpose.
Speaker 3: Or that great tech show. You know, it's every other
Speaker 3: Sunday Tank Radio where he's lately he's been doing deep
Speaker 3: dives into technology, and he talked about All Star and
Speaker 3: I honestly I forgot what the other live string is
Speaker 3: I did this year?
Speaker 2: The other lives you've done this year because there's only
Speaker 2: been two every other Sundays.
Speaker 3: I know, right coming up next Sunday, I have Hammers.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about what the new Hammers pro
Speaker 3: is and what.
Speaker 2: Did he gets you? Is Jared coming?
Speaker 3: Yes he is awesome in the follow up email, but yes,
Speaker 3: that's what's on the schedule right now.
Speaker 2: Yay, awesome.
Speaker 3: What do he got coming up? On Nuggets?
Speaker 2: So we have been doing a series on TNC's terminal
Speaker 2: node controllers, trying to revive nineteen eighties hardware, and we're
Speaker 2: at the point where we totally skipped over the nineteen
Speaker 2: eighties hardware. We got it to kind of work, but
Speaker 2: there's three or four things that you have to overcome.
Speaker 2: One is you have to have the TNC itsself working.
Speaker 2: Two as you have to have the right cable for
Speaker 2: the radio. Three as you have to have the radio
Speaker 2: in the right mode. I guess there's five things radio,
Speaker 2: and the right mode four is you have to be
Speaker 2: on the right frequency talking to somebody else who has
Speaker 2: all of these four things set up properly as well. Wow,
Speaker 2: And then both of you have to have the same
Speaker 2: configuration on your software. Oh six, and the band has
Speaker 2: to be open. So if I was trying to reach
Speaker 2: you on twenty meters, as an example, we would have
Speaker 2: to have one percent of the same exact CAFIG And
Speaker 2: nobody knows how to do this anymore. Most people have
Speaker 2: just inherited this stuff. So it's it's interesting trying to
Speaker 2: go back down this And once I get it figured out,
Speaker 2: then we're going to go a little farther forward. So
Speaker 2: Monday night I've been putting it off. I got to
Speaker 2: build some more cables. Money net. We're gonna build some
Speaker 2: cables and rant about where the state of ham radio is. Again.
Speaker 3: That's so fun. I want to see past panels. Do
Speaker 3: internet pass panels like a voiceover IP.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, the old the old switchboard, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's an idea.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've seen it with the PL two P so
Speaker 2: two thirty nine's on it and you do that to
Speaker 2: switch antennas and then you you have a third panel
Speaker 2: that's just all grounds, so when you go home at night,
Speaker 2: you ground everything.
Speaker 1: Now we have a waterfall, okay.
Speaker 2: And somebody in the chat mentioned that digipie the software
Speaker 2: boots up into APRS mode automatically, so really, yeah, so
Speaker 2: beware of turning it on. And if you look back
Speaker 2: at your screen, share you can tell that it's on
Speaker 2: or off. Share that out again and I'll share.
Speaker 1: Okay, that is right.
Speaker 2: You can get Frank off the screen for the love
Speaker 2: of God, man, Okay, so you're lucky. The first option
Speaker 2: says APRS tnc iGATE and by like the guy in
Speaker 2: the chat said, I forget your name. I'm sorry, but
Speaker 2: we got a little busy when you left, and Frank
Speaker 2: and I were talking that APRS tnc iGATE will be
Speaker 2: on and that gray column down the left hand side
Speaker 2: it will actually be green, saying that it's on. But
Speaker 2: it's not on right now.
Speaker 1: No, nothing's on right now.
Speaker 2: So and that might be because your APRS passcode didn't work.
Speaker 1: Ah, yes, I did not populate my APRS passcode, so
Speaker 1: or it might not be just okay, spitballing, all right,
Speaker 1: So I need to click when link email server on.
Speaker 2: Radio is connected antenna is connected, you're on a frequency
Speaker 2: that's clear. That's the other thing we got to talk about.
Speaker 2: If you are going to set up a win link
Speaker 2: server full time in your area, make sure you find
Speaker 2: a clear frequency in the Gentleman's agreement data portion of
Speaker 2: the band, which I don't know even what that is.
Speaker 2: And then you know, so like one four three to zero,
Speaker 2: I guess if that's still in band.
Speaker 3: I got a question it is.
Speaker 1: It's I put I'm at one forty four two fifty
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Good for me, And that's take it in FM mode.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, it's FM it and then it's got to
Speaker 2: be FM D FM data.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, there we go. Okay, all right, good. I
Speaker 1: don't have my I was looking for my radio camera
Speaker 1: earlier and I don't have it connected up right now,
Speaker 1: so I can't show you guys the radio. Sorry about that.
Speaker 1: But the important part is the screen that we're sharing
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So Don is talking in the chat as Don
Speaker 2: likes to. He says, I appreciate Craig's work, but I
Speaker 2: prefer seventy three Linux in the WAYKM for eck manages
Speaker 2: his load. I agree with you one hundred percent. They're
Speaker 2: different beasts for different purposes. So Craig has designed something
Speaker 2: that can fit in your pocket and you take it
Speaker 2: with you and just get on the air and do
Speaker 2: stuff real quick. And Jason has made a desktop platform
Speaker 2: that's a little more robusts. They serve two different masters,
Speaker 2: if that makes any sense. So they're both good work,
Speaker 2: but they're different target audiences.
Speaker 1: Right, that makes sense. Okay, all right, we're in FMD mode.
Speaker 2: And I wasn't saying that to alliterate for the rest
Speaker 2: of the viewers. I was saying that specifically to pick
Speaker 2: on Don because he's my friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I get you. Okay, all right, are we
Speaker 1: good to click on?
Speaker 2: Yeah the radio USB cable? Yes only, so click it.
Speaker 2: The only reason why this wouldn't work is because you
Speaker 2: had the pie booted and you didn't have the radio connected.
Speaker 2: That that may or may not be an issue. See
Speaker 2: how it went green?
Speaker 1: Yeah it's green. Now okay, yeah, that's the only thing
Speaker 1: that's green.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's it. So if you scroll down to the
Speaker 2: bottom where those blue links are.
Speaker 1: Yes, uh oh, you can't see that. Hold on, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: there we go.
Speaker 2: So the third column, second from the bottom says pkt
Speaker 2: log packet log. If you click on that, it should
Speaker 2: open up another tab and it will give you a
Speaker 2: real time update. And if you know, you know, this
Speaker 2: is dire wolf And there you go. You got an error.
Speaker 2: And the error, like I said, is because you didn't
Speaker 2: have the radio connected when you booted the pie. So
Speaker 2: I would just go back to the other tab and
Speaker 2: there's a save config. Click that save config yes, yep,
Speaker 2: and then click the reboot buttons and these are both instant. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like you click reboot, it's already rebooted. Really, yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean it's not. It doesn't like doesn't predict the future.
Speaker 2: It doesn't know. But like when you click the button,
Speaker 2: it sends the reboot command and gives you zero feedback.
Speaker 2: It's instant, harsh.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, no okay, so it says restarting DIGIPI right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's not it's all you mean that fat? No? No, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: no I would It doesn't. It doesn't get the idiot windows.
Speaker 1: Are you sure? Are you sure? Are you sure? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I get you.
Speaker 2: So, let's so, what's the frequency? In the chat is
Speaker 2: saying most of VHF gateway for wind Link are between
Speaker 2: one forty four ninety and one forty five ninety and
Speaker 2: increments of ten killer hurt. So there you go.
Speaker 1: The one that's close to me that i've been using here,
Speaker 1: I see that, Thank you for that. The one that
Speaker 1: that's close to me in south Lake here is one
Speaker 1: forty four dot nine one uh nine one oh. That's
Speaker 1: the one I've been using for the last perfect since
Speaker 1: I got back from Orlando. One forty four nine one oh.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to be near that one. But
Speaker 1: uh but that's good info. So one forty five.
Speaker 3: And why this is rebooting? Why do we have to
Speaker 3: select a specific frequency that's not already in use? Isn't
Speaker 3: when kind of like a PRS, where it's just a
Speaker 3: common frequency that we all use.
Speaker 2: It can be, but it's not. If you have two
Speaker 2: gateways that I can hear in the same time, Like
Speaker 2: if I'm physically like ten miles from each gateway on
Speaker 2: two meters, then we're gonna have collisions? Is it?
Speaker 1: Because it Think of it.
Speaker 3: It's not like APRS is a is all receive only
Speaker 3: you need to the the pie that we're setting up
Speaker 3: now needs to transmit back.
Speaker 2: It does need to transmit back.
Speaker 1: Yes, think of it like a think of it like
Speaker 1: a repeater, Frank the repeater. There can't be a more
Speaker 1: than one in the area, so they would interfere with
Speaker 1: one another unless they're on a different pel tone, I guess.
Speaker 2: But well, if they're on it, I agree with one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. If they're on a different pl tone, you
Speaker 2: still have the frequency capture effect issue. Yes, like I
Speaker 2: won't hear you, you won't interfere with like me wanting
Speaker 2: to listen to repeater A, but I can't hear it
Speaker 2: while you're talking. I won't hear you on it, but
Speaker 2: I also can't hear it.
Speaker 3: So the piece, the piece I'm missing in my mind
Speaker 3: is it's a two way communication path instead of like APRS,
Speaker 3: it's a one way me sending it to the gateway.
Speaker 3: There's not really much coming back from the game.
Speaker 1: No, APRS is two way also, But everybody think of
Speaker 1: APRS as like a worldwide repeater. Everyone is on the
Speaker 1: same frequency because that's where everybody's talking. So it's not
Speaker 1: like you and me having a conversation on the U
Speaker 1: Liss repeater and two other guys on the Hearst repeater.
Speaker 1: Everyone's on the same repeater because all of your APRS
Speaker 1: gate igates and digit peters are on one three ninety.
Speaker 1: Now you can have an APRS.
Speaker 3: But what collision will still happen.
Speaker 2: So the difference is that win link if I We're
Speaker 2: getting farther down the path and I'm not walking about it,
Speaker 2: I just want to let people in the chat and
Speaker 2: know people who are watching.
Speaker 3: I'm curious.
Speaker 2: What yeah, yeah, So remember remember dial up internet days
Speaker 2: when you would send and receive email. You get, you know,
Speaker 2: forty emails in your inbox, you'd reply to all of them,
Speaker 2: they'd all queue up in your outbox. Then you'd hit
Speaker 2: send and receive again. When you do that on wind link,
Speaker 2: it's the exact same paradigm as like AOL dial up email.
Speaker 2: When you do that on wind link, you're tying up
Speaker 2: that frequency for the entire duration of your transmit of
Speaker 2: thirty messages that you have replied to and queued up
Speaker 2: for sending. And APRS, on the other hand, is pack
Speaker 2: it off, pack it off, pack it off, and there
Speaker 2: are collisions, but not not a whole lot because it's
Speaker 2: packet off, packet off, where wind link is packet Get
Speaker 2: out of my way. I'm sending packets. I'm still sending packets.
Speaker 2: Who do you think you are get off my frequency.
Speaker 2: I'm sending packets and nobody else can use it that
Speaker 2: entire time, which is fine if it's a you know,
Speaker 2: me talking to the server. But if it's twelve servers
Speaker 2: and two thousand people all trying to share the same frequency,
Speaker 2: that's where all the collision nonsense comes in. And there's
Speaker 2: ways around it, but not smart ways around it. Kick
Speaker 2: it too far in the weeds.
Speaker 1: All right, that took that took a couple of minutes
Speaker 1: to reboot, but awesome when when the email service.
Speaker 2: So scroll up again, maybe your your apr S is on. Nope, okay,
Speaker 2: sometimes it's not. Sometimes it comes on.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was trying to come on when it was rebooted,
Speaker 1: but it's still said rebooting down at the bottom. So
Speaker 1: and then the page refresh and it's not on now,
Speaker 1: so okay, so now you might need.
Speaker 2: To turn that off if that green light for a
Speaker 2: pr S is on, and then turn on Winley because
Speaker 2: they both use a different Direwolf config but the same
Speaker 2: dire Wolf software. Hit that packet log again.
Speaker 1: Packet okay, boop, Okay, so far so good. Unverified server
Speaker 1: TC T two c A east. So where does the
Speaker 1: where does the Okay, it says case five A should
Speaker 1: be two. I think we're supposed to be dashed ten.
Speaker 1: I don't remember where.
Speaker 2: We set a society that's internal.
Speaker 1: Okay, So where does the authorization that I had to
Speaker 1: get from the win Link gateway admins is? Where does
Speaker 1: that come into play? Like like, when this key's up
Speaker 1: and tries to connect, will it not connect if I
Speaker 1: don't have the proper authorization?
Speaker 2: Is that what he's doing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So, your your client, your other radio, your other computer,
Speaker 2: your other whatever down the street, not the server that
Speaker 2: we just set up. When you try to connect, the
Speaker 2: server then phones home, and when the server phones home,
Speaker 2: it says you're authorized and continues the transaction, or it
Speaker 2: says you're not authorized and shuts off the transaction.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha? Okay, So it's not actually it hadn't actually
Speaker 1: done that yet because I haven't connected to it with
Speaker 1: a client, right, Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that line that you have there
Speaker 2: it still says APRS trying to read all that stuff,
Speaker 2: and it's a little small on my side.
Speaker 1: It says, uh, well, the first line says APR s
Speaker 1: C two dot one dot nineteen, and then some numbers
Speaker 1: and then it says log r e s P case
Speaker 1: five HWB dash two unverified server T two c A
Speaker 1: East and then the third line says KC five HWB
Speaker 1: dash two.
Speaker 2: And yeah, see how it says above that it says
Speaker 2: now connected to igates server NAM, which is North America.
Speaker 2: I think we need to go back to the main
Speaker 2: page and stop turn hit off on win link email server.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: And then if you go back to the packet log page,
Speaker 2: see how there it is yep, Okay, this is what
Speaker 2: I was talking about, turned green there. So what happened
Speaker 2: is is that we were impatient. It booted up and
Speaker 2: we didn't wait long enough for it to settle. It
Speaker 2: stayed out, and like the gentleman mentioned earlier in the chat,
Speaker 2: Digpie boots up into APRS mode. So hit the off
Speaker 2: on APRS okay. And then if you go back to
Speaker 2: packet log, you should see that it's shutting down or
Speaker 2: has shut down, or it's just gonna be hard off. Okay, awesome, Craig.
Speaker 2: Go back to the other page logging, okay, turn this
Speaker 2: back on. Yeah, and then when you hit packet log
Speaker 2: you should see it start up in win link mode.
Speaker 1: Darwolf and did you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there it is. See how it says reading canfig
Speaker 2: file slash run slash direwolf dot wind link dot com.
Speaker 2: And it's the top of that bottom paragraph, the first line.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, yeah, I see that.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, And I do believe you can like drag
Speaker 2: over that copy and paste style with your mouse if
Speaker 2: you wanted to highlight it. I don't know if it's
Speaker 2: gonna Yeah, there you go. The way people are in
Speaker 2: the chat can't see it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Still why is it doing that?
Speaker 1: I haven't even touched I mean, yeah, terminating after audio
Speaker 1: device input failure.
Speaker 2: We can get in the weeds of troubleshooting this on Linux.
Speaker 2: And Freddy in the chat is asking will Apier has
Speaker 2: come back on every boot? Yes, that's a default that
Speaker 2: Craig has set up. I don't know why, it just is.
Speaker 1: I wonder how you can turn that off, or maybe
Speaker 1: you can't turn that off. Audio output start ERA No
Speaker 1: such device audio output start air audio right error retry
Speaker 1: count exceeded audio.
Speaker 2: So what it's trying to do right now is connect
Speaker 2: to the port on the seven oh five. Do you
Speaker 2: have a power only cable or do you have a
Speaker 2: power and data cable. That's probably the easiest thing, is it.
Speaker 1: No, this is the cable. This is the cable that
Speaker 1: I use. I keep with the seven o five. I've
Speaker 1: used this for WSJTX multiple times, so it is a
Speaker 1: it is a dable cable.
Speaker 2: Jeff is asking about canfig on the seven oh five.
Speaker 2: That's also a good question. Yeah, it turned Collins right,
Speaker 2: it turned into Annet's episode. You have FT eight D
Speaker 2: on this radio recently?
Speaker 1: Not recently? No, but I mean, actually that's not true.
Speaker 1: I did on New Year's Day. Yeah, so a got
Speaker 1: a month ago and.
Speaker 2: You haven't changed down the settings because there is a
Speaker 2: there's a setting where that what is it the data
Speaker 2: off mod or whatever it is inside of the seven
Speaker 2: oh five. I think the seven o five defaults to
Speaker 2: it being on properly or whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't remember that one. What I do
Speaker 1: know is I've never done FT eight on two meters
Speaker 1: with this radio. I don't know if that makes in
Speaker 1: a difference or not.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't you had this thing connected up to HDMMI
Speaker 2: did you have a keyboard and mouse plugged in? Also,
Speaker 2: we're just a keyboard. Okay, switch back over to that
Speaker 2: view and we'll make sure you're seven o five is connected.
Speaker 2: It is usually not this difficult to do. Let's se
Speaker 2: there's some configuration issues, so we'll do some quick trouble shooting.
Speaker 2: We'll see. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine for most people.
Speaker 2: This will just work. Profile inside of the seven oh
Speaker 2: five there is a profile that you can select which
Speaker 2: will open up all the bandwidth and set all the
Speaker 2: proper stuff. So the seven oh five has about a
Speaker 2: billion settings inside of it, and you can set them
Speaker 2: all up the way you want for whatever service you're using.
Speaker 2: Like if you're a Ritty fan and you've got it
Speaker 2: all set up for Riddy with the proper bandwidth and
Speaker 2: spacing and everything, then you can create a profile called
Speaker 2: Britty profile and save it, and then you can switch
Speaker 2: back to sideband profile. So the user ID is PI
Speaker 2: and the password is Raspberry, So log in as PI Raspberry.
Speaker 1: Under voltage detected.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a thing with Raspberry pies. That's a pain
Speaker 2: in the butt. Type in ls USB and I see
Speaker 2: Texas instruments somethings, and you see a microchip technology.
Speaker 1: Logitech is the logit is the DEVISO five, the Logitech.
Speaker 1: It's a wireless dongle that's in there for the cure keyboard.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: So if you unplug your seven oh five and then
Speaker 2: type L s USB again, we're gonna see that this
Speaker 2: doesn't change because you're seven oh five is probably not
Speaker 2: connected properly. No, I see it on there, Prolific Technology.
Speaker 2: I see seven oh five. Yeah. So now type L
Speaker 2: s USB again and you'll see that some things have
Speaker 2: disappeared out of the list, right, correct. So we lost
Speaker 2: the Texas Instruments thing, which is the the sound card
Speaker 2: that's inside of the seven oh five, And we lost
Speaker 2: the Prolific Technology thing, which is the serial port inside
Speaker 2: of the seven oh five. Okay, so plug them back in, okay,
Speaker 2: and then if you run L s USB, you'll see
Speaker 2: them pop up again. The other thing to do is
Speaker 2: a record a record space dash A. I think it's
Speaker 2: a record.
Speaker 1: Invalid option space dash it.
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 2: I'm not at my console right now. It's the it's
Speaker 2: the command that enumerates the devices inside of also m hmmm,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, I'm trying to remember off top me let me.
Speaker 2: I can't get one of my machines here.
Speaker 1: I can't remember what that is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll Billy Ham saying it looks like a setting
Speaker 2: inside the seven o five is not.
Speaker 1: That's probably what it is. Yeah, that's probably what it is. Now,
Speaker 1: if we're gonna do the FT sixty five, is it
Speaker 1: still going to be USB radio for that one setting?
Speaker 2: The FT sixty five is going to be digi rig.
Speaker 1: It'll be digi rig. There's an actual digi rig setting.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, and again it's going to be properly configured
Speaker 2: to run on the Digi rig. There's just something going
Speaker 2: on in Jason seven o five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see there's this seven o five is like
Speaker 1: from the when the radio was brand new. Okay, Jody says,
Speaker 1: a record dash L dash L.
Speaker 2: Why did I think it was? Yeah, do a record
Speaker 2: dash L. Jody's right, he's he's a smart guy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there you go. And it says card zero, device is zero. Okay,
Speaker 2: do type in LS and you should see a Direwolf
Speaker 2: dot win link dot CONFIGU in the current directory.
Speaker 1: Dardar wolf dot.
Speaker 2: Maybe he's moved it.
Speaker 1: I've got did you Peter Darwick node TNC three hundred
Speaker 1: b t n C can fig I don't like that
Speaker 1: LS view it's LS space dash L. I think it's
Speaker 1: easier to use. Puts it in a list format. Here,
Speaker 1: let's see. Oh and now my okay, now my i'm
Speaker 1: it doesn't like the mouse. Okay, that's fine. Let's see
Speaker 1: you said Direwolf.
Speaker 2: What Direwolf dot win link dot com.
Speaker 1: Yes there, yeah, that's there.
Speaker 2: Okay. You type in less L L E S S
Speaker 2: space Direwolf dot win link dot com and then just
Speaker 2: press enter and it'll page out. But we're looking for
Speaker 2: a device, So hit the right air at the bottom.
Speaker 2: See how it's coming and out. Used the down row
Speaker 2: a couple of times and you should know. Wow, you
Speaker 2: just got the I would say that your config didn't
Speaker 2: work out right, hit Q to exit. Okay, ah, that's true.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See you've got your call sign up in there case
Speaker 2: five hw B dash ten. That's set properly.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, we didn't set the dash ten though.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's all automatic inside. It does a
Speaker 2: really good job on all right, but you're your configure
Speaker 2: is not working right.
Speaker 1: Uh, what's the frequency? We are in film data mode.
Speaker 1: It is in fmdsh D mode, so we're there. Yes,
Speaker 1: it does need to be there, but that's where we're at.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's another setting deeper inside the menu, because
Speaker 2: the seven O five does have a deep f menu.
Speaker 1: It does it? Does?
Speaker 2: I want you to unshare your screen because I think
Speaker 2: they're right. This next file that I want to look
Speaker 2: at is going to have before you unshare your screen, though,
Speaker 2: type in LS so I can see the files that
Speaker 2: are there because I can't remember the name of the
Speaker 2: config file. Maybe it's config because I don't have my
Speaker 2: digipi set up. Are you I have one, two, three, four,
Speaker 2: five columns that I can see? Do you have more
Speaker 2: columns than that?
Speaker 3: Older?
Speaker 1: Probably I have. I have this the screen zoomed in
Speaker 1: right now so that it's easier to read. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of columns in that.
Speaker 2: Okay, go into the configure so do CD space config
Speaker 2: CD for change directory and then do an LS in there.
Speaker 2: And I don't see it. I forget where Craig saves
Speaker 2: his config.
Speaker 1: File, which canfig file for what?
Speaker 2: For digipi itself?
Speaker 1: Oh? Oh, okay, did YOUPI dot com for whatever?
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have one of those, I can't read
Speaker 2: one hundred percent of what's on your screen. That's a
Speaker 2: zoom problem.
Speaker 1: It is not, Yeah, it is not in that it
Speaker 1: is not in that directory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that. It's I don't even know
Speaker 2: what the file name is.
Speaker 1: Uh, well, dig youpi dot com.
Speaker 2: Michael, You're right, a device should be commented out, but
Speaker 2: the one that had the comment still had the wrong
Speaker 2: configuration in it. So it's I think digipi might not
Speaker 2: be configured properly. Interesting, And what I would recommend you
Speaker 2: do under normal circumstances is reburn the SD card and
Speaker 2: go back through that initialized process that we had at
Speaker 2: the beginning.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay, okay, Lee, I'm.
Speaker 2: Looking for the the digipiknfig file and I don't want
Speaker 2: to like show it on the screen because it's going
Speaker 2: to have all of his passwords in plain text and
Speaker 2: you technically shouldn't edit it. Yeah, Jeff is right, data
Speaker 2: mode to USB on the seven o five. Let me
Speaker 2: pull out my seven o five and see if I
Speaker 2: can play along with you on checking that setting.
Speaker 1: Okay, Buried, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it gets me every time because I took my
Speaker 2: seventy one hundred to Hamcashen a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: I was playing with this exact setup and it would
Speaker 2: never work, and I went, oh, usob, that's exactly what
Speaker 2: the problem was, and the seventy one hundred was set
Speaker 2: to not have data going over the USB port, USB
Speaker 2: being universal serial bus, not.
Speaker 1: Upper sidement.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, because that's not confusing in Ham radio at all.
Speaker 1: They shouldn't, right, Yeah, yeah totally.
Speaker 2: Then you set connectors.
Speaker 1: This is turning into a Nuggets episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay. So on your seven O five uh
Speaker 2: huh h, the hit the menu button.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And then on page one lower left, lower right, sorry
Speaker 2: is the set set? Yep, I'm there, And then scroll
Speaker 2: down to page two of four you'll see connectors. It's
Speaker 2: the second option from the bottom.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Tap that. And then on page two of three there's
Speaker 2: mod input m O D Yes, they like they couldn't
Speaker 2: spare an extra character for the E m O D input.
Speaker 2: And then the bottom of the first page there's data
Speaker 2: mod Yes. I think it's actually modulation. I'm just picking
Speaker 2: on icon and it should be USB. It is, okay,
Speaker 2: So datam od is USB, so that's correct. I mean
Speaker 2: it did show up in l S USB, So I
Speaker 2: think we might have just pooched the configuration when we
Speaker 2: first did this because you didn't have the I'm gonna
Speaker 2: blame you because you're.
Speaker 1: Here, because I didn't have the because I didn't have
Speaker 1: the radio plugged in. Yeah, maze, So we have to
Speaker 1: plug in the radio before we do the configuration.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I'm only blaming you because you're here.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk bad about Craig behind his back.
Speaker 2: That would talk about you in front of your back.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeap makes sense. Well, we did call this an
Speaker 1: easy an easy uh you know, easy setup, So we
Speaker 1: had to we had to run into some roadblock somewhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how long does your show normally go? Because we're
Speaker 2: already past the hour mark. Where's Craig. I'm surprised Craig
Speaker 2: is not watching.
Speaker 1: One to one and a half hours.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I mean we got time to reburn the
Speaker 2: SD card and try again.
Speaker 1: Yes, I could. I could do that. You want to
Speaker 1: do that?
Speaker 2: Sure?
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean it's not gonna hurt anything. So all right,
Speaker 1: so let me shut this down and.
Speaker 2: You don't have to shut it down gracefully and just
Speaker 2: turn it off because we're reburning the sty card. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's not like tonight as Valentine's Day or anything. We
Speaker 2: can we can stream all night.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Watch the frequency. You are absolutely correct.
Speaker 1: I may have to go inside and get my card
Speaker 1: reader because I have to turn this burn this card
Speaker 1: on another computer.
Speaker 2: So Frank and I got this. Yeah, I'm sure y'all
Speaker 2: saw me lugging in the machine behind my head here
Speaker 2: to start looking.
Speaker 5: Let's see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it's come on.
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. Yeah, all right, let me go
Speaker 1: grab my card reader and I'll.
Speaker 2: Be right back. Yeah, Frank and I got this, all right,
Speaker 2: I bet you do.
Speaker 3: So on the second takeo' here.
Speaker 2: Right again, I think I think we got three hundred
Speaker 2: percent improvement.
Speaker 3: I know, right, I agree, I agree. Anything fun and
Speaker 3: new coming up on your channel?
Speaker 2: Oh, always something fun and new coming up.
Speaker 3: I was hoping. I was hoping this week coming weekend,
Speaker 3: I was going to go to the park and I
Speaker 3: was going to do some slow scan TV and I
Speaker 3: was going to show how to set it up and
Speaker 3: listen to help support the Pharmato launch. And I was like,
Speaker 3: because a part of their mission is going to be
Speaker 3: sending out slow scanned images, I was like, this is
Speaker 3: how you do it with an HT if you have
Speaker 3: a YAGY And then I think, if I have time
Speaker 3: wise I do it for HF but it's still going
Speaker 3: to be like thirty degrees.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of stinks.
Speaker 3: And I could do it from the house, but it's
Speaker 3: not the same.
Speaker 2: Michael debug g eight hundred colon C nice. Okay, I
Speaker 2: was fast, I know, right. Yeah, Frank and I worked
Speaker 2: on talking.
Speaker 1: I had all my stuff sitting on the kitchen table because.
Speaker 2: John, what's the distance on a WINDLINGK gateway? Danny's asking, Danny,
Speaker 2: It depends on which frequency you are on and whether
Speaker 2: the band is open or not. Two meters is line
Speaker 2: of sight obviously, well, not necessarily obviously, and then HF
Speaker 2: is worldwide depending on band conditions. Okay, he spreaded, he
Speaker 2: ain't even out of breath.
Speaker 1: John, E drive, Let's do the eat. Oh it's coming
Speaker 1: up as the f drive. It's dual part two. This
Speaker 1: thing's dual partitioned.
Speaker 2: Alan says, yeah, just blow it away. Alan saying, why
Speaker 2: not avoid Linux and just install a wind Link on
Speaker 2: a win ten PC because we don't like Windows.
Speaker 1: What's he saying?
Speaker 2: What's he he says? He says, why not just do
Speaker 2: it on Windows?
Speaker 1: Well, I have, I mean I have win Link Express
Speaker 1: on Windows. But like kept saying at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the stream. I've really enjoyed using WODE, and WOAD only
Speaker 1: works with packet, so that's why we're doing a two
Speaker 1: meter packet right now. So I don't I mean, I
Speaker 1: I guess I could. I guess I could probably use
Speaker 1: wind Link Express on Windows. When this is all said
Speaker 1: and done, I just got to connect it to my The.
Speaker 2: Short answer is there's more than one way to do it,
Speaker 2: and this is this is one ring.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, very true.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, the whezing was frank John.
Speaker 3: No, I haven't even done anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so why are you out of breath?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Did you?
Speaker 2: Pie Don says Whin ten is going away soon. I
Speaker 2: hope when eleven goes away soon.
Speaker 1: No doubt. Yeah, I think I'm gonna think I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do some episodes about trying to switch all my stuff
Speaker 1: to Mint twenty two because I was talking to a
Speaker 1: c K about that at Hamcshon. You know, I tried
Speaker 1: to drop Windows about ten years ago, maybe twelve years ago,
Speaker 1: something like that, and just too much. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't feel like I don't feel like fighting with my
Speaker 1: operating system. I need my computer to do stuff to do.
Speaker 1: I don't need to convince it to do stuff every
Speaker 1: time I want to go do stuff.
Speaker 3: So the latestday breaks four apps really relying on where
Speaker 3: the graphics driver doesn't work here but works over there.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Yeah.
Speaker 2: The only problem you're going to have with switching in
Speaker 2: our field switching over to Linux is the video editing.
Speaker 2: There is not a good video editor on Linux.
Speaker 1: I pay someone to do that for me.
Speaker 2: So well, Lati da Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and once I when I was on Jay Christina's channel,
Speaker 1: he interviewed me. We were talking about him radio on
Speaker 1: his channel because he's a starling guru, and I had
Speaker 1: him on my channel. First, he uses OBS and he
Speaker 1: live streams all from Linux, so he uses OBS on Linux.
Speaker 1: He uses that VD Ninja streaming software which is all
Speaker 1: browser based. That's what Kyle uses. Kyle told me about
Speaker 1: that a long time ago, and and he's like, it's
Speaker 1: all on, it's all on. He's like, I dropped Windows
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and he's he's all on
Speaker 1: Linux now, even with his live stream stuff. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: that might be something worth worth checking into. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I would probably do like a dual boot. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: do like like because there's certain things on and I
Speaker 1: was telling Jason like like like he hates Windows, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that's fine. But when leak Express was
Speaker 1: written for Windows, it's much much, much more robust than
Speaker 1: wode or radio mail or pat wind Link or any
Speaker 1: of these other applications that run kind of like a
Speaker 1: light version of wind leak Express. There's a lot when
Speaker 1: leak Express will do, so I wouldn't want to give
Speaker 1: it up completely anyway, But this, I mean the same
Speaker 1: is true for several other programs. I mean, I use
Speaker 1: Photoshop and Premiere and those aren't I tried to use
Speaker 1: Gimp one time several years ago. I'm like, this is terrible.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's getting the toys for all my images.
Speaker 3: But you're right if you're used to Adobe, so Photoshop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all of the shortcuts are different, All of
Speaker 1: the shortcuts are different, and I just.
Speaker 3: I cool different names differently.
Speaker 1: Yeahs, Yeah, what version of the image are you using?
Speaker 1: I am using one dot nine dash too two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, doc like yesterday or today.
Speaker 1: It was a couple of days ago, earlier this week.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't like Gimp. I didn't. I was
Speaker 1: really hoping I would like Gimp, and I just I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't like it.
Speaker 3: I just don't want to pay.
Speaker 1: Well, I know a guy who works for Adobe, so
Speaker 1: I get the whole sweek for like forty bucks a year.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's all about who you know.
Speaker 2: So I'm guessing the sty cards burning it is.
Speaker 1: Uh, actually I'm I'm downloading, downloading for my cloud server,
Speaker 1: which is where the the image is kept, because I
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't burn it on this computer. I've got
Speaker 1: like three or four PCs in my home here, so okay,
Speaker 1: here it is, Mike, bring out the camp. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's the GNU Image manipulation program for those of
Speaker 2: you that are easily offended, right, which shouldn't be any
Speaker 2: of you here, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, what are you doing on this stream?
Speaker 2: Yeah? If you are, then you haven't really been paying
Speaker 2: attention or Jason's just not doing a good enough job.
Speaker 1: Can you run Vara FM on seventy three Linux? Yes?
Speaker 1: You can, absolutely, mm hmm. Seventy three Linux is freaking awesome,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm gonna do some videos with it upcoming.
Speaker 1: In fact, I've already I've already got it installed on
Speaker 1: one machine. But I bought back when they were like
Speaker 1: eighty bucks. I bought three of those of all Maestro
Speaker 1: twelve laptops. So I've got one box I haven't even
Speaker 1: opened yet. All right, so here it is dig youpie image. Okay, right,
Speaker 1: I wish I could blow that partition out, though I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's going to do that for me
Speaker 1: or not.
Speaker 2: Stop righted?
Speaker 1: Uh, well, it doesn't bring up that drive letter as
Speaker 1: an option. Let's see to manage. Let's try to It's Windows.
Speaker 1: So let's go to disc management and see if I
Speaker 1: could just delete those yeah, unallocated okay, delete volume, yes, good,
Speaker 1: delete volume? Yes, what do you know? I did it
Speaker 1: on Windows guys. I was able to nuke. I was
Speaker 1: able to nuke my partitions on Windows Exit.
Speaker 3: It's easy.
Speaker 1: It's easy. If it it's easy, if it works the
Speaker 1: way it's supposed to, which is not always the case.
Speaker 3: If the flask drive is mounted correctly, I could do
Speaker 3: it like three different ways.
Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, right, Yes, okay, we are writing.
Speaker 2: Awesome, and this is a condensed image, so it won't
Speaker 2: take long to write it all. No, it's not that bad.
Speaker 2: So North forty nine Radio is saying, do a video
Speaker 2: on seventy three Lenux and there's so much in there,
Speaker 2: and to Jason's credit the way that he wrote the software,
Speaker 2: the installer is extremely robust and resilient. But it also
Speaker 2: if we just live stream, did I think it would
Speaker 2: take like an hour or two just to watch it
Speaker 2: install itself?
Speaker 1: Well, Jason and I I had Jason on a live
Speaker 1: stream three or four years ago, and we did a
Speaker 1: live install of the predecessor of seventy three Linux, which
Speaker 1: was Build a Pie and it's based seventy three linuxes
Speaker 1: basically Build a Pie version two two. I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: it two point oh, I'm gonna call it kme for
Speaker 1: a c K two point oh. That's what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: call it. It's no, it's it's yeah, it's uh. And
Speaker 1: we did a build and there was a bunch of
Speaker 1: stuff in there that that you could turn off and
Speaker 1: on or install or choose to install or choose to
Speaker 1: use or something like that. So it was it was Yeah.
Speaker 1: In seventy three Linux, I think is even more robust.
Speaker 1: So we're going to I'm gonna do some I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do some videos with it, but it's probably not gonna
Speaker 1: be on a live stream. I'm probably gonna do multiple
Speaker 1: videos with it. Actually, thirty one percent. We're going. It's
Speaker 1: not writing that quickly, but it is writing. It's going.
Speaker 2: So North forty nine Radio says he's got the time.
Speaker 2: It's not about the time, it's about, you know, creating
Speaker 2: something worth watching and watching rights the computer install its
Speaker 2: own software while we talk about it is kind of
Speaker 2: what we're doing right now.
Speaker 1: It's kind of what we're doing right now. This was
Speaker 1: not on the agenda for tonight.
Speaker 2: But nevertheless, when once we get past this part, if
Speaker 2: you have the audio the volume turned up on your
Speaker 2: seven o five, you should hear it send out. It's beacon. Okay,
Speaker 2: Don is correct. They compile the code and like I said,
Speaker 2: Jason does a fantastic job on seventy three Linux. I
Speaker 2: just wanted to put that out there that it takes
Speaker 2: a while to do the install.
Speaker 1: It does. Okay, while that's going, we're at fifty I'm
Speaker 1: going to open sessions on woade M and I'm connected
Speaker 1: to my UVA pro here and which is on the
Speaker 1: frequency for the nearby repeater. There it goes that thinger focuses. Oh,
Speaker 1: I know why it's not focusing. I've got I've got
Speaker 1: it on manual focus receiving messages.
Speaker 2: Nick asking can I use this on an FT five? Yes,
Speaker 2: as long as you can get interfaced with your computer
Speaker 2: or phone, you can use it on whatever radio you
Speaker 2: have mm hmm cables and hardware and Bluetooth and so on.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was tinkering around with my moby linked TNC
Speaker 1: four last night and I connected it to my FT
Speaker 1: five and had it connected to APR asteroid just for
Speaker 1: the heck of it, just because it's a hell of
Speaker 1: a lot easier to send an APRS message with APR
Speaker 1: asteroid than it is that.
Speaker 4: Yesy radio.
Speaker 1: And some of you have sent me emails. There you
Speaker 1: go downloading now. Oh, sorry, didn't mean to do that.
Speaker 3: Nine.
Speaker 1: We're just about there.
Speaker 2: Do you hear all that traffic in the background, Frank yep.
Speaker 2: That's the reason why they don't share frequencies illustrated on
Speaker 2: hundre percent. Yeah, true, Jason has just that.
Speaker 3: That didn't click for me. It was because it's a
Speaker 3: two way communication, unlike APRS. Like you you said, mostly
Speaker 3: it's a one way, but they can be a two way,
Speaker 3: but it's so short. If there is a collision, it
Speaker 3: just gets it next time.
Speaker 1: Okay, we are reimaged back in the pie let me
Speaker 1: find my USB cable for power here. I'm gonna plug
Speaker 1: this up, all right, So we're plugged into the seven
Speaker 1: oh five and it's powered on and yep, there we go.
Speaker 1: So all of that is plugged in and ready to go.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go ahead and power the pie.
Speaker 2: Up radio is plugged in and everything.
Speaker 1: Yep, radio is plugged in, powered on. Hold nine yards
Speaker 1: and I wonder if it's gonna give it a new
Speaker 1: IP address this time.
Speaker 5: But let's see.
Speaker 1: M hmmm, uh nope, same IP address fifty six. Okay,
Speaker 1: there we go. We've got the initialized screen at the bottom.
Speaker 2: All right, so run through that initialize again. We've already
Speaker 2: done this, so you can just do it real quick
Speaker 2: off screen, type in your password and everything, and it
Speaker 2: should be in your browser save.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, okay, Hello, there we go. When they
Speaker 1: passed through locate, does it matter the grid square? Does
Speaker 1: it have to be all six digits or can you
Speaker 1: do the four digit thing?
Speaker 2: It should be six, but four we'll do.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not gonna cause trouble like we were seeing
Speaker 1: if I only use four.
Speaker 2: No, because we didn't get to connect to the radio.
Speaker 2: We hadn't even gotten to the grid square park.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. Okay, USB connected radio, it's already
Speaker 1: set to seven.
Speaker 2: O five.
Speaker 1: Initialize, changes, applied, reboot. Okay, it's rebooting now. I have
Speaker 1: used moby linked an FT five for woad works.
Speaker 2: Great cool, Okay, yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I was trying that last night. But
Speaker 1: I was in my bedroom upstairs and I was checking
Speaker 1: and I wasn't connecting, and I didn't know why, and
Speaker 1: I checked the logs. It's because I wasn't reaching the
Speaker 1: uh the gateway. So it was trying, but it was
Speaker 1: working on my side. I just I didn't have a
Speaker 1: I was just on the rubber duck Antena of the
Speaker 1: FT five. But the cool thing is you can take
Speaker 1: that uh T n C four and connect it to
Speaker 1: an icon and you can do APRS and an icon.
Speaker 2: John's saying, I wonder if we found a glitch and
Speaker 2: programming because of land instead of wireless, But I don't
Speaker 2: think so.
Speaker 3: H that's an idea, I'll say more as a bug.
Speaker 1: That's an idea though.
Speaker 2: That's what it is. Justin found the file. It's localized
Speaker 2: dot een v mm hmm. But he's got some comment
Speaker 2: inside of the localized dot een V that makes it.
Speaker 2: I think it says something like, you know, don't edit
Speaker 2: this blah blah blah blah blah. I think you can
Speaker 2: edit it and reboot, but it's like super advanced stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh ok and we're trying not to make this super advanced.
Speaker 1: Okay. So the aprs T and C iGATE is on
Speaker 1: after reboot, so I'm going to turn.
Speaker 2: That off yep, and that light should go gray instead
Speaker 2: of green.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's gray.
Speaker 2: And then when link email server.
Speaker 1: When email server on, everything's connected.
Speaker 2: Your screen actually looks better on stream that it does
Speaker 2: on Zoom.
Speaker 1: Good. Well, yeah, yeah, you're right, it does.
Speaker 2: It looks AI generated on my Zoom screen here, does
Speaker 2: it really?
Speaker 1: I wonder if that's your Internet's been pretty good tonight.
Speaker 1: But at the first, when you first joined it was
Speaker 1: you were kind of robotic, so I wonder, I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: packet log reading, can file darw Win, link dot com
Speaker 1: were good?
Speaker 2: There, awesome, Op, there it is. I heard it. Well,
Speaker 2: did you hear the radio?
Speaker 1: It did that last time, but then it came within
Speaker 1: the screen showed all these errors.
Speaker 2: So yes, the radio KHWB dash ten beacon when linked
Speaker 2: there you go. You just sent out your beacon telling
Speaker 2: the world that you exist on this frequency.
Speaker 1: There we go. Hey, okay, that is success. So I
Speaker 1: guess it was just it.
Speaker 2: Was something like I said, the easiest thing to do
Speaker 2: with digipie is just start over.
Speaker 1: I would like to think that it's probably the fact
Speaker 1: that it's was not plugged into the radio when we
Speaker 1: configured it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna blame you because I feel.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like, well, I'm the one who didn't
Speaker 1: plug it into the radio. So I guess you'd be right,
Speaker 1: But I still I still feel like it wrote the
Speaker 1: card correctly the first time. But oh yeah, okay, sweet, okay.
Speaker 2: So now you can configure WAD to connect over whatever
Speaker 2: radio you have connected to that other device. Yes, this
Speaker 2: is it. It's done.
Speaker 1: It yeah, it's it's done. You're done, sweet, Okay, I
Speaker 1: can I can figure WOAD to connect to the seven
Speaker 1: o five, right.
Speaker 2: Uh, you can figure WOAD to connect to the other radio.
Speaker 2: Your seven oh five is now dedicated as being okay, so.
Speaker 1: I would so I would change the frequency on my
Speaker 1: b tech uv pro too to match the seven oh five,
Speaker 1: and then we could go from there. Yeah that makes sense. Okay, Okay, okay, good.
Speaker 2: So you have radio sound interface, which on the seven
Speaker 2: oh five is just a USB cable, right, but it
Speaker 2: could be a DIGITPI or a signal link or something
Speaker 2: along those lines. And digypie the Raspberry Pie with Craig's image,
Speaker 2: that's your wind Link server set up right, that whole
Speaker 2: nut gets set off to the side and stays on
Speaker 2: and runs. And then you get your other radio, your
Speaker 2: other computer, your other whatever and configure that to connect
Speaker 2: over RF to the wind Link server that we just set.
Speaker 1: Up, right, okay, okay, sweet, okay, Well that's successful anyway.
Speaker 1: So if I wanted to change it to excuse me,
Speaker 1: if I wanted to change it to.
Speaker 2: A different radio digi rig.
Speaker 1: Instead of of the seven o five, that's done in
Speaker 1: where do we do that?
Speaker 2: The easiest way to do it again is just to
Speaker 2: reburn the sd image oh really, the localized dot env
Speaker 2: file and edit it manually and reboot and so on.
Speaker 2: Or you can just burn the SD image and go
Speaker 2: through the initial eyes. Craig has made this by default
Speaker 2: to not be radio agile.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So your ten bucks you know, yeah.
Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. Oh, there's great Craig here, we
Speaker 1: talk about it enough, I guess he shows up. So
Speaker 1: what's up, dude? So okay, well good? I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's like yeah, because once you get it burned,
Speaker 1: it's like three or four clicks and you're done.
Speaker 2: Yep. So it's easier to have a ten dollars Raspberry
Speaker 2: Pie for every radio than it is to have one
Speaker 2: Raspberry Pie and ten different radios and ten different sound
Speaker 2: in their faces.
Speaker 1: That makes sense. Okay, cool. I'm gotta make sure I've
Speaker 1: got the correct cable form my FT sixty five for
Speaker 1: the digibrig, and if I do, then I'm gonna switch,
Speaker 1: because you don't want to dedicate your seven oh five
Speaker 1: to be your win link gateway.
Speaker 2: Come on. No, But so Craig is saying, make a
Speaker 2: second SD card, which we can do, or edit the
Speaker 2: localized dot NB file and Craig in your file, there's
Speaker 2: some some verbiage you have that kind of hints that
Speaker 2: you shouldn't edit this, which is why I'm trying to
Speaker 2: urge people to not edit it. But you can. I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously you know more about it than I do.
Speaker 1: M I thought I heard intro music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you haven't watched Craig's channel. He plays a
Speaker 2: little guitar bumper like live guitar every single one of
Speaker 2: his videos and he's got hundreds on his channel, which
Speaker 2: is KM six LYW Radio.
Speaker 1: Some values you can edit, Yeah, it's probably, I mean
Speaker 1: it's as simple as it was to just in the
Speaker 1: image and yeah, just burn a second st card is
Speaker 1: what he said. I'm like, that's that's probably the thing
Speaker 1: to do right there. Hmm okay, sweet, Well, you know
Speaker 1: what this is. Uh, this was success, had some it
Speaker 1: was success. It had a bump in the roadblock, but
Speaker 1: just like, uh, every other time we've done that, we've
Speaker 1: we've tried to fix it, and today we were successful.
Speaker 1: So I still partially it's partially because you're here. I
Speaker 1: still remember that time we were building the Morserine I think
Speaker 1: it was the mor Serno. Yeah, and mine didn't work
Speaker 1: and I fixed it on camera and Inn five ask all.
Speaker 1: He's like, He's like, you fixed it on live camera.
Speaker 1: He's like, and I had the same problem, So it
Speaker 1: was so great to see you fix it. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: every now and then, you know, I mean, a broken
Speaker 1: clock is right at least twice a day too, So
Speaker 1: sometimes I can fix stuff so cool. Well, this was
Speaker 1: this was good. I really enjoyed doing this. It's good
Speaker 1: to kind of see it in action. It's good to
Speaker 1: click through it and see everything that do and how
Speaker 1: simple it is to you know, I'm glad we had
Speaker 1: to burn it in burn it again to just kind
Speaker 1: of see what it's doing. So that's gonna be that's
Speaker 1: gonna be cool to tinker with. I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you check out on my channel, I've
Speaker 2: got a couple of quick videos that just go over
Speaker 2: that part. Live streams are cool interaction community stuff. I
Speaker 2: love them, yes, but sometimes it's like, just give me
Speaker 2: the two minute version. So I've got one for setting up,
Speaker 2: one for what a server is, one for setting up
Speaker 2: the server, and one for setting up the client on
Speaker 2: the VGC or the uv pro or whatever radio you
Speaker 2: happen to have.
Speaker 1: Right, cool, All right, well this was fun. Thank you
Speaker 1: Steve for your time.
Speaker 2: Sure anytiate to appreciate.
Speaker 1: The info there we still need to get. We still
Speaker 1: need to do another RV live stream on the other channel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you keep saying that. I actually thought about that
Speaker 2: the other day because I have two projects that I'm
Speaker 2: working on. One is this solar thing that I'm talking
Speaker 2: about right now, it's just wired into this room, but
Speaker 2: I want to wire it into the battery on the
Speaker 2: tongue and then I want to get an inverter set up,
Speaker 2: and there's going to be a loop that I'm concerned about. Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know when you plug into shore power
Speaker 2: on your RV, there is a AC to d C
Speaker 2: converter battery charger built into the camper. Correct, So I
Speaker 2: would actually be solar power into the solar charge controller,
Speaker 2: into the battery, into the inverter, into the shore power plug,
Speaker 2: into the panel, into the AC to d C converter,
Speaker 2: back into the battery. So I'm wondering, like, am I
Speaker 2: creating this free energy loop thing going on?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'll solve the problem. And the other one is I
Speaker 2: don't have enough air conditioning in this rig. It's a
Speaker 2: thirty six foot rig with a single air conditioner. Oh wow, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so a couple of solutions, but none of them are good.
Speaker 1: The rig we rented in Orlando was a thirty five
Speaker 1: foot camper and he, uh, well, we didn't have access
Speaker 1: to a fifty an plug, so we could only use
Speaker 1: one of the air conditioners. It had too but you
Speaker 1: had to have a fifty an plug. But it was fine.
Speaker 1: We had no problem. That thing worked great. But yeah,
Speaker 1: if I was living in the thing, I would definitely
Speaker 1: want to two air conditioners.
Speaker 2: Well, well, this is a Salem, and you know the
Speaker 2: Salems aren't the highest trim level. It's like the Chevrolet version,
Speaker 2: not the Cadillac version.
Speaker 1: It's more like a you go, my one I've been
Speaker 1: having all the trouble with is a Salem. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: but yours is pre COVID.
Speaker 2: Yes, I make sure of that. Don't buy any COVID
Speaker 2: trailers ever. Right, Yeah, they were all built on Friday
Speaker 2: and they all got phoned in, every single one of them,
Speaker 2: every manufacturer.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good question. So Brooks asks, will this
Speaker 1: act as a win link gateway as RF only no Internet,
Speaker 1: i e. Store and pick up email from the specific station. Well,
Speaker 1: my understanding of win link gateway is it's always over
Speaker 1: the Internet because that's how you email back and forth.
Speaker 2: That's how emails get sent from gateway to gateways over
Speaker 2: the Internet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, right, So it's it's RF sending an RF
Speaker 1: email from your station when you're in the field across
Speaker 1: RF across the airway to a gateway that's somewhere connected
Speaker 1: receiving RF signals and sending URF also, but it's also
Speaker 1: connected to the Internet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so from a from an emergency standpoint, like what
Speaker 2: happened in North Carolina, they had no Internet, they had
Speaker 2: no cell phones, they had no nothing. Your two meter
Speaker 2: would get you to the two meter gateway. The two
Speaker 2: meter gateway would have like a starlink or something, or
Speaker 2: would be outside of the impact crater and then would
Speaker 2: get you across the internet to somewhere else, or your
Speaker 2: HF would get you out of the impact zone to
Speaker 2: a to a safe place that does have any net.
Speaker 2: There is peer to peer wind link, but it's a
Speaker 2: lot more difficult to set up to the point where
Speaker 2: you might even just like pick up your HT and
Speaker 2: just talk instead of sending somebody a win link email.
Speaker 2: Because it's peer to peer, you're only talking at one person.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean you're yeah, at that point time,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do peer to period, use APRS because
Speaker 1: that works simplex. Peer to peer just far mestastic or mestastic.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, there there's more than one way to do it,
Speaker 2: and sometimes there are better ways, and sometimes win link
Speaker 2: is the better way.
Speaker 3: Well, it's all about your intent, what you want to
Speaker 3: do with the message, if you're just trying to communicate
Speaker 3: in your area, or like you said, this is meant
Speaker 3: to send email on the.
Speaker 1: Internet, right right, So I got h oh, I got
Speaker 1: eleven new messages when we were sitting here.
Speaker 2: Nice, thank you for this. Check it again. You'll get
Speaker 2: eleven more new messages, I know.
Speaker 1: So I am going to be on the road this
Speaker 1: week and I'm going to go get a new trailer. Yes,
Speaker 1: because it's possible, I'm going to line the old one
Speaker 1: with Tanner Wright and take it out to the hunting
Speaker 1: lease at one point, so we'll see.
Speaker 3: If that happens.
Speaker 2: Well, no, you have to have Mike do it that
Speaker 2: way you can still make the insurance clean.
Speaker 1: Yeah okay, but yeah, so I'll be on the road.
Speaker 1: I'm driving to Ohio this week to pick up a
Speaker 1: new trailer, and uh I will be checking, receiving and
Speaker 1: sending when Lenk emails and doing position reports over when
Speaker 1: Lenk during that time. So you guys keep in touch
Speaker 1: with me, all right, Frank, I know you want to
Speaker 1: do your thing, yep, so yeah, please go ahead.
Speaker 3: I am getting so close to six thousand subscribers, and
Speaker 3: let's go ahead and try to push that because I'm
Speaker 3: probaby to range a giveaway behind the scenes. So once
Speaker 3: that happens, there will be a giveaway around six thousand subscribers.
Speaker 3: At six thousand subscribers and I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 3: I go ahead and disdrop the link into the chat
Speaker 3: and oh, I'm so excited. Six thousand. Whoa, I'm big
Speaker 3: time now.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm that's cool. Yeah, cool man? When is it?
Speaker 1: You know when that's going to be?
Speaker 3: Not yet, I got to hit the six thousand, so
Speaker 3: I'm hoping it might be. If it happens in a week,
Speaker 3: we'll do it in a week. If it's not, then
Speaker 3: it'll be in the march. But we will see when
Speaker 3: it goes. I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Can't wait, cool man, it's wrong, Lee, there we go? No, Lee,
Speaker 1: cool Man? Well, thanks a lot man, congrats to that,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, we will definitely keep them keep you
Speaker 1: watching on that. Yes, Nick, I'll be on APRS as well.
Speaker 1: Always on APRS forty so forty okay, Jody just gifted
Speaker 1: a bunch of memberships.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jody, thank you very much. Absolutely beyond APRS, so
Speaker 1: no problem there. But cool, Okay, well, good luck, Frank.
Speaker 1: You have to keep us posted on that you should
Speaker 1: go buy yourself an APRS radio when you hit six thousand.
Speaker 1: I should be your gift to yourself. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I would suggest to b Tech, but you know I
Speaker 1: want to. I want one of those vgc's so that
Speaker 1: I can do an actual side by side comparison and
Speaker 1: see what they look like. And I really really really
Speaker 1: like the colors of the VGC radio.
Speaker 2: They're actually really good. They really pop. Well, yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: I was shocked when I opened up the blue one
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm not gonna like this. This isn't
Speaker 2: this isn't a radio color. This doesn't make any sense,
Speaker 2: Like it's not like an m com color. Lose it
Speaker 2: in the ground ring. I was like, yeah, wow, this
Speaker 2: actually looks really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Mike Mike' set at Hamcash was like the
Speaker 1: desert tan color, which I love desert tan, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh dude, I need a desert tan radio.
Speaker 1: I think it's cool, really really cool looking. So uh
Speaker 1: but the red the red way I have the the
Speaker 1: walks on Q ten H quadband radio and mine's red,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I have that radio and red. Well. Thanks
Speaker 1: to a lot guys. Appreciate everyone being here tonight, Thanks
Speaker 1: for those who are talking about this till the till
Speaker 1: the end, and yeah, we will be in touch this week.
Speaker 1: Send me a win link message case HW. Really appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys conversing with me on WINLENK.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Steve Vix ask him real quick, what's the
Speaker 2: full model number of that radio? This is the via
Speaker 2: vr N seventy six. And the one that Jason has
Speaker 2: is the exact same radio made by the exact same
Speaker 2: company with different firmware on it, and that's called the
Speaker 2: b Tech Balfang Tech uv Pro.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, the UV Pro. And I said I was
Speaker 1: gonna go get you guys. I do have a I
Speaker 1: have a link to the uv pro where you can
Speaker 1: and a coupon code. I have a link. In fact,
Speaker 1: you know what it was in my email today If
Speaker 1: you're not a member of my email is Tamradio two
Speaker 1: dot com forward slash email dash sign up. I sent
Speaker 1: a link to the uv Pro with my ten percent
Speaker 1: off or ten ten dollars off. It's either I think
Speaker 1: it's ten dollars off, ten dollars off coupon in that email,
Speaker 1: so go check that out. If you didn't get that,
Speaker 1: let me know, hit me up in discord or something
Speaker 1: else send it to you. So, guys, thanks a lot.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Everyone, have a good week and we'll
Speaker 1: talk soon.
Speaker 2: So yeah, later,