Speaker 1: Oh bread of that sar. Hello, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: This is the Cult of Conspiracy and I'm the Cage
Speaker 2: Night and today we have one a very special guest.
Speaker 1: She once upon a time came on the show to.
Speaker 2: Bend our ear about good old Uncle Ted and the
Speaker 2: Oklahoma City bombing. And today she's coming on with some
Speaker 2: more fai ya for the good cult members. Everybody, welcome
Speaker 2: Danielle from the rabbit Hole Podcast. How are you today?
Speaker 3: I'm good? How are you guys?
Speaker 4: Doing good?
Speaker 1: Wonderful?
Speaker 2: So for anybody who may not have heard you on
Speaker 2: the show last time, can you give everybody a quick
Speaker 2: rundown of your background.
Speaker 3: It's been a year since I was on here, so
Speaker 3: I don't know. I've been podcasting for like four years now.
Speaker 3: I just hit my four year aniversary. So I typically
Speaker 3: do like deep dives on Wednesdays, and Deep Dive will
Speaker 3: come out and then now recently actually I've started doing
Speaker 3: like guest episodes, so it's come out on Mondays when
Speaker 3: I have a guest, But like, if I don't have
Speaker 3: a guest, you just get a Wednesday episode. That's about it.
Speaker 1: I heard that.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 5: That's what I got for you.
Speaker 1: And so before podcasting, what was what was your background?
Speaker 1: I know you're a veteran YEP.
Speaker 3: I was in the Navy for five years before well, okay,
Speaker 3: before podcasting, I was like floating because I got out
Speaker 3: of the Navy in twenty eighteen, and I didn't actually
Speaker 3: start this podcast until like twenty twenty one, Like the
Speaker 3: end of twenty one is when I started like in
Speaker 3: the research, although I didn't launch until twenty two. So I
Speaker 3: just kind of like was floating there for a minute,
Speaker 3: you know how, you know how it is like you
Speaker 3: get out and you're like, I have to do something
Speaker 3: with my life, but what that thing is I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, you have all this like you have
Speaker 2: all this motivation, but no directions.
Speaker 1: You're just kind of like how to do something with
Speaker 1: my hands? Like yeah, I feel that.
Speaker 3: And they're like everyone's like, we're gonna get out and
Speaker 3: go to school, and I was like me too. And
Speaker 3: then I got there. I was like ooh, this was
Speaker 3: a terrible idea big goof yeah.
Speaker 4: No doubt, no doubt, yeah too.
Speaker 3: You know school, Yeah I did. I went to like
Speaker 3: two semesters or three semesters maybe, and I was like
Speaker 3: this is not the place for me.
Speaker 4: I think I did like years of school.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did four and a half, and I am, well,
Speaker 2: I almost got three degrees out of it.
Speaker 4: You got uh yeah, almost two?
Speaker 2: Well for the records associates, As I say that, don't
Speaker 2: think I got like too mad?
Speaker 3: I did half of my husband's degree. Does that count?
Speaker 1: There? You get that?
Speaker 3: I told him we could rip it in half and
Speaker 3: like under his name, right, our last name, and under
Speaker 3: like his last like the last name would write above
Speaker 3: it like my first name.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, yeah, my ex husband with like half of
Speaker 4: his so far, so right.
Speaker 5: Like you get part of a degree there?
Speaker 4: Well, my whole thing was is I because I moved states?
Speaker 4: So there's That's an interesting thing though, when you move
Speaker 4: states across the country, you don't realize that different programs
Speaker 4: don't transfer. Because so in Oregon they have a really
Speaker 4: amazing mortuary program and in the South in Louisiana, they
Speaker 4: don't have that.
Speaker 6: It's completely different.
Speaker 4: It's the funeral home directors is what they have. But
Speaker 4: it's not the same, and they don't call, they don't transfer,
Speaker 4: and they don't have the same kind of schooling.
Speaker 3: So wait a second, you like willingly wanted to do
Speaker 3: this for a job.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's like a full on emo queen to
Speaker 1: the end.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't mind dead people at all. Yeah,
Speaker 4: they're at least I don't good.
Speaker 2: We're both Mario. I should mention that we're both Marine
Speaker 2: Corps veterans.
Speaker 3: Oh so you enjoy you enjoy crans.
Speaker 2: All this stuff. Oh yeah, orange is the best color.
Speaker 2: I will fight people over it, sure.
Speaker 4: But I yeah, No, I wanted to be a mortician,
Speaker 4: so I was Actually I got done with my AMT
Speaker 4: degree and then I've always wanted to be in the
Speaker 4: medical field, a doctor or something like that. But I
Speaker 4: realized I was gonna have to be moving, and so
Speaker 4: I had already applied for the program and like found
Speaker 4: an internship and I was really all about it. But
Speaker 4: then I ended up having to move town to the
Speaker 4: south and it was the whole thing and that didn't transfer.
Speaker 4: So then I kind of sat in for a good bit,
Speaker 4: and then I found myself in the birth world, and
Speaker 4: so I started going to school for Midwiffrey and I
Speaker 4: did that for almost four years. Problem is the yeah,
Speaker 4: so very wide spectrum of what I'm into. It's it's
Speaker 4: very confusing when people listen to me, They're like, wait,
Speaker 4: I'm really confused at the person that you are.
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, you're a complex chick. I'll be very honest.
Speaker 6: So I really enjoy birth.
Speaker 4: It's beautiful. I think there is something very valuable at
Speaker 4: the beginning of life and at the end of life.
Speaker 4: I think there is a there's something very spirit to
Speaker 4: both of them. And for me wanting to be a mortician,
Speaker 4: my big thing is that I wanted to give people
Speaker 4: because a lot of people that do like make up
Speaker 4: for the deceased aren't very good at it, and yeah,
Speaker 4: that's the lasting impression you have of family, and that's
Speaker 4: really tough for me to see family members and friends
Speaker 4: and stuff see their loved one that's not very done
Speaker 4: very well. And so I wanted to get into that
Speaker 4: because the human body is super fascinating to me anyways,
Speaker 4: but being able to help people have a really lasting,
Speaker 4: beautiful moment as the last time they see their loved
Speaker 4: one was really important to me. Unfortunately, they don't have
Speaker 4: a lot of schools down They don't have any schools
Speaker 4: here that do that do this, and I can't travel
Speaker 4: because of my kids and my ex travels for work,
Speaker 4: so I couldn't go places to be able to do this,
Speaker 4: and so that didn't work. And then I found myself
Speaker 4: in the birth world because of my own birth trauma
Speaker 4: with my first child, and so then I was like, well,
Speaker 4: this is something I could do. And unfortunctually, my midwife
Speaker 4: actually was the one I was going to study under.
Speaker 4: And there's only so many midwives and there's a lot
Speaker 4: of students, and so it's a first come, first serve
Speaker 4: kind of a thing, and you need to have a
Speaker 4: lot of childcare and I don't have family down here,
Speaker 4: and so it was a lot of different things that
Speaker 4: I was unfortunately unable to finish my degree. I mean,
Speaker 4: I was in my third year, so I was I
Speaker 4: only needed a certain amount of bursts and then I
Speaker 4: would have been able to start taking my practicum to
Speaker 4: become a midwife. So it bothers me. I still really
Speaker 4: want to be one. But then I ended up in anthropology,
Speaker 4: so I'm actually an anthropologist and that's what I got
Speaker 4: my full degree in with a minor in environmental science.
Speaker 4: Because I am a weird collection of a human being.
Speaker 3: I said that, Yeah, it's very a midwife and I
Speaker 3: loved her, so.
Speaker 4: It's very I'm a very complicated person.
Speaker 2: So I mean where I met, you've worked in so
Speaker 2: many different regards.
Speaker 1: Your family had funeral homes up north.
Speaker 6: Correct, they had nursing home.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, nurse.
Speaker 2: I mean we're using interchangeable dialogue this point.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, up.
Speaker 4: With the elderly, and I have a deep, deep love
Speaker 4: for the elderly.
Speaker 3: And you could be a death doula.
Speaker 4: So I actually cannot. Nope, that is that is one
Speaker 4: thing that I cannot get into.
Speaker 1: That's a thing that is a thing. I know.
Speaker 4: I met a death I can't.
Speaker 3: I met a death doula one time.
Speaker 4: So I have a friend that's a death doula, and
Speaker 4: my midwife is actually trained in death and to be
Speaker 4: able to be death doula is when you have a
Speaker 4: stillborn or a late term abortion. Late term miscarriage.
Speaker 1: Is not what I thought we were talking about.
Speaker 5: That's not the kind of death doula I was talking
Speaker 5: about either.
Speaker 4: Oh no, so death so dulas themselves are primary with
Speaker 4: birth most of the time. So death doulas are there
Speaker 4: for when you have a still birth or when you
Speaker 4: have something like that and your baby is no longer
Speaker 4: living after birth, and so they come in and they
Speaker 4: do a lot of beautiful, amazing work with the families.
Speaker 4: They are there to help in every regard.
Speaker 2: I thought we were talking Yeah, so I thought we
Speaker 2: were talking about somebody that I met death.
Speaker 5: In style, right, No, so that's what I was talking about.
Speaker 3: So I met a death doula, Like I knew this
Speaker 3: lady and she would yeah, like so they had like.
Speaker 5: Anybody like old people that were in hospice.
Speaker 3: They had the hospice nurse, but she was the doula
Speaker 3: to like make the like yeah, kind of like make
Speaker 3: them feel comfortable and just like have them like kind
Speaker 3: of like what a birth doula would do is like
Speaker 3: have that comfortability as they pass because they know they're
Speaker 3: gonna die.
Speaker 5: They're on hospital, they're like in hospice care.
Speaker 3: Right, so it's just like that that extra person to
Speaker 3: come in to help them die.
Speaker 5: But they're old people. I would not be.
Speaker 4: Able to be like a Prairie death doulas do the babies.
Speaker 4: But there is some and I know one that's really
Speaker 4: famous on TikTok and Instagram that's a death doula that
Speaker 4: does later in life work as well for adults and
Speaker 4: things like that. But primary death doulas are for the stills.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: And it's really oh man, it's tough work. Even my
Speaker 4: midwife of like thirty eight years experience. She did an
Speaker 4: entire like three month course about death and all this stuff,
Speaker 4: and she's she said it was one of the hardest
Speaker 4: things for her personally, Like she she enjoyed it to
Speaker 4: be able to help people, but it was very difficult
Speaker 4: for her being the one to have brought in thousands
Speaker 4: of babies to bring him to help usher in a
Speaker 4: baby that's no longer here with us. So yeah, it's
Speaker 4: it's tough work. Personally, I can't do it. I could
Speaker 4: have if I didn't have kids. I was a lot.
Speaker 4: I was a lot more shut off to my emotions
Speaker 4: before children, and then with children has caused me to
Speaker 4: be more hyper emotional when it comes to children kids.
Speaker 2: And I thought we were having a death duel. Was
Speaker 2: like this old cat that used to be a deadhead
Speaker 2: and he's going out, so you just like load him
Speaker 2: up with acid and let him go.
Speaker 1: Out in piece. I thought that's what we were talking
Speaker 1: about here. Wow, that's okay, very thought.
Speaker 4: So there is different people do death death work for
Speaker 4: when you have in the life people that help, you know,
Speaker 4: elderly people pass and things like that. They probably a
Speaker 4: death consultant or something else.
Speaker 3: I know she told me that she was a So
Speaker 3: my husband was construction like handyman like work, so he
Speaker 3: worked with this lady and that's what she did for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's death dulos of different types. But when I
Speaker 4: think of the term dula itself, it's because I do.
Speaker 4: I am a dula, So that's you know, but yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's a weird. It's a weird thing. But they
Speaker 4: a lot of uh interesting things have happening speaking of death,
Speaker 4: though I don't I know put I know people don't
Speaker 4: probably keep up with this, but I do because obviously
Speaker 4: I'm a weird person. But they have actually moved into
Speaker 4: having full clinics where you can go and sign your
Speaker 4: life away. So there's suicide clinics and you go in
Speaker 4: and you have to sign it five times, five separate times.
Speaker 4: You have to sign to confirm that you want to
Speaker 4: pass away. I watched the entire thing about this young
Speaker 4: person deciding to pass away. Their entire family was there,
Speaker 4: all of their friends, and they did this whole assisted
Speaker 4: suicide thing and they just peacefully passed in their sleep
Speaker 4: and stuff. They injected the boy and he went to sleep.
Speaker 1: But sounds very just sick.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't
Speaker 4: think he was. They didn't outright say that he was
Speaker 4: sick or not. But from from what.
Speaker 1: I in, his family was just cool with it.
Speaker 4: I don't really I'm assuming he was sick, but they
Speaker 4: didn't actually say the words that he was like terminally ill.
Speaker 3: But they no.
Speaker 1: Insurance claim because it's a suicide.
Speaker 4: So they have like these places though instead of like
Speaker 4: offering yourself at your home like they have like counselors
Speaker 4: they have they have to do like Psyche Valve counselors.
Speaker 4: They had to do all of these things to be
Speaker 4: approved and pretty much it's like the humane California thing.
Speaker 6: No, this is overseas.
Speaker 4: Actually it sounds very It's like it's like in one
Speaker 4: of like the Sweden, Finland, Norway.
Speaker 1: Are much of a population anyway, so.
Speaker 4: That's whatever people were flying over there, you know, And I.
Speaker 1: Mean it was honestly suicide tourism.
Speaker 4: It was honestly like a really interesting take though on
Speaker 4: you know, passing.
Speaker 6: I know he's over here, I what.
Speaker 4: A fucking wild time to be alive.
Speaker 6: He is like the most dramatic uman.
Speaker 1: No this everybody, just take it. Take the two steps back.
Speaker 2: Let's look at this outside looking in. So we got
Speaker 2: this kid, and I'm not saying a child. Let's say
Speaker 2: he was like he was.
Speaker 4: Like thirty something a kid, I will say he's like
Speaker 4: maybe twenty eight.
Speaker 2: So somebody going through an almost midlife crisis decides that
Speaker 2: they're done with this shit and they have made the
Speaker 2: resolute decision they're going to kill theirselves, and instead of
Speaker 2: just eating a bullet and being cheap about it and
Speaker 2: helping people, they're gonna get all of their family to
Speaker 2: fly to Finland or somewhere and meet with me weeks
Speaker 2: and weeks maybe yeah, Okay, So let's say he's a
Speaker 2: local guy. I was still costing unnecessary money to your
Speaker 2: family and they're not getting an extra.
Speaker 4: And traumatizing them. That's the thing. That's what it really
Speaker 4: comes down to. Like, there's there was a lot of
Speaker 4: interesting things about the the program that I watched Don't kill.
Speaker 2: Yourself and don't traumatize anybody.
Speaker 4: There's how many people die every second of the day,
Speaker 4: like be from suicide. So this was a way to
Speaker 4: it more or less was created for terminally ill people
Speaker 4: to be able to pass with the pass with dignity,
Speaker 4: which personally, for me, for having my father die with
Speaker 4: dementia and the way that everything transpired, I personally feel
Speaker 4: that it is something that should be allowed. I think
Speaker 4: that it is something that is a positive thing.
Speaker 6: I've always felt this.
Speaker 4: Way, especially one of my best friends passed and it
Speaker 4: was very undignified in the way that she did, and
Speaker 4: I've always felt very strongly towards these type of programs.
Speaker 4: I don't think that I think that people that are
Speaker 4: healthy should be able to get mental health as much
Speaker 4: as possible. Now, if they still choose that that is
Speaker 4: their right to choose this, and if they're doing this
Speaker 4: in a dignified way to where their family members aren't
Speaker 4: going to walk in their home and they see their
Speaker 4: body or their brains blown out, then personally, I think
Speaker 4: that it is a better way because I have witnessed
Speaker 4: people that have and I have actually been on cruise
Speaker 4: and seen the aftermath of suicide, and it's very traumatizing
Speaker 4: for everyone involved, for their family and friends, and so
Speaker 4: if this is a better way, I personally feel that
Speaker 4: it's I think it's a good thing, but that's just me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I very much oppose that concept, but I mean
Speaker 2: I get it. Everybody's got their shit, and again termly.
Speaker 3: Like you're not gonna get better and you're just gonna suffer,
Speaker 3: Like yeah, absolutely, like.
Speaker 2: And that's the very case by case and like find cool,
Speaker 2: I understand that, but like to the person who just
Speaker 2: sees no hope and like they.
Speaker 1: Just see this as a better alternative.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like mental health is something that
Speaker 2: only in the past couple of years, I'll say, last
Speaker 2: twenty years, give or take, people are actually starting to
Speaker 2: take more seriously right, and people are starting to associate
Speaker 2: not just past traumas, but just chemical imbalances and all
Speaker 2: these different things as a real, clinical, diet noticable thing,
Speaker 2: and these people can get help.
Speaker 1: But the problem with that is also that that.
Speaker 2: System is so heavy laden with the pharmaceutical industry and
Speaker 2: a lot of these people getting misdiagnosed just to get
Speaker 2: pumped expensive pharmaceuticals.
Speaker 1: And that doesn't help me either. So like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: there's a lot of.
Speaker 2: Things that can be talked about as far as that's
Speaker 2: concerned terminally ill or somebody who clearly has dementia, and
Speaker 2: it's it's a it's not even more dignified way, it's.
Speaker 4: A it's a human way, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like that's different. But for the thirty two
Speaker 1: year old who I mean, like, bro, I fine, fuck
Speaker 1: the bullet, like swallow an entire bottle of aspirin.
Speaker 4: It's gonna happen, you know, I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't know. I mean, to each their own.
Speaker 4: I understand the terminally ill ones because that makes at
Speaker 4: least for me, a lot more sense.
Speaker 1: It's better than that dude shot up that hockey game.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, did you see that?
Speaker 2: No, the training that shot his wife and child and
Speaker 2: then shot himself not her himself, but he also had
Speaker 2: like ss Nazi tattoos on him, and like, yeah, the
Speaker 2: dude you had a lot of mental issues. And people
Speaker 2: are trying to say that it's because nobody accepted him
Speaker 2: in the trans community, and it's like, oh, he's got tits.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I don't really know if that plays
Speaker 4: into shooting.
Speaker 1: But like, no, it plays into mental health issues.
Speaker 4: I don't really see why he needed to open fire
Speaker 4: on his ex wife and adult son. Yeah, in a
Speaker 4: hockey game. Like you could have hit anybody. You traumatize
Speaker 4: all these people, Like you killed two people that were
Speaker 4: unnecessary to kill. Like, if you're feel in some type
Speaker 4: of way, then you do it to yourself. I don't
Speaker 4: need to do anything else to anybody else.
Speaker 3: But well, a couple of years back, there was that
Speaker 3: the shooting in Tennessee that was like the Catholic school
Speaker 3: and it was like some trans guy.
Speaker 4: Or girl or whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but they went into the Catholic school
Speaker 3: and shot up all these like ten year olds and
Speaker 3: I was like, they did not do anything to you. Yes,
Speaker 3: you were not accepted by the Catholic community. Why are
Speaker 3: you seeking acceptance by the Catholic community, a community that's
Speaker 3: never going to accept you as transgender? Move on, go
Speaker 3: find acceptance.
Speaker 7: Go find a community somewhere else, because people are not
Speaker 7: right like, and you're not gonna be accepted by everybody
Speaker 7: even if you're not trans. Like we do conspiracy theory
Speaker 7: podcasts and guess what, the whole world doesn't accept us.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Like you're looking for validation all the wrong places.
Speaker 7: Go somewhere where like your validation is going to be found.
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing. Kids for it. This isn't
Speaker 1: a dig at the trans community.
Speaker 2: But what I will say is a lot of the
Speaker 2: people within the trans community, a lot of them do
Speaker 2: find their community, and they do feel better after they
Speaker 2: go through these transitions and these surgeries and all this stuff.
Speaker 3: Look, as long as your community is so important.
Speaker 2: As long as you're a grown adult and you're not
Speaker 2: hurting anybody, and you're doing this for yourself out of
Speaker 2: your own paycheck, look, do what the fuck you want.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: I might think you're ridiculous, but I think a lot
Speaker 2: of things are ridiculous. I'm entitled to my opinion whatever.
Speaker 2: But a lot of these people also are looking for
Speaker 2: acceptance from anywhere. And the problem is, if you're already
Speaker 2: unhappy with yourself at a very deep molecular level, change gender,
Speaker 2: more often than not, will not help you feel better
Speaker 2: about it afterwards because you didn't address the root problem,
Speaker 2: and that makes it even worse. So it's like, this
Speaker 2: isn't a dig at the LGBTQ ELEMENTO P plus minus
Speaker 2: hashtag community. But also there's a higher probability of that
Speaker 2: community going on shooting spreez now more than ever. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's a community problem as far as the
Speaker 2: alphabet people go. I think it is a mental health
Speaker 2: problem that no one is addressing, and they're acting like
Speaker 2: going through a transition is going to fix the mental problems.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 2: You're not fixing what the root cause of the problem was,
Speaker 2: regardless of what they identify as.
Speaker 3: But is I think that most no, I was gonna
Speaker 3: say that, I think that most of our mental health
Speaker 3: issues are are.
Speaker 5: What's the word like orchestrated?
Speaker 3: They're created? Oh sure, I don't think I because we're
Speaker 3: talking about mental health all the time now, right. I
Speaker 3: think it's even deeper than that. I think it goes
Speaker 3: like to the food, to the chemicals, to the things
Speaker 3: that we're like putting into our bodies, like we're literally
Speaker 3: changing our bodies to where like like we're creating these
Speaker 3: mental health issues because like what they say that the
Speaker 3: gut is your second brain, and your gut actually does
Speaker 3: like if you have a healthy gut, then you don't
Speaker 3: have as many like depression anxiety issues, but if you
Speaker 3: have like a really unhealthy, unbalanced gut, then you have
Speaker 3: all these issues. Well, I think that what we're doing
Speaker 3: is we're poisoning ourselves and in turn, we're poisoning our
Speaker 3: brains and that we're creating this monster, which is great.
Speaker 3: The government, the system, they love this.
Speaker 5: Because we get on, like everybody gets on medicine.
Speaker 3: They keep eating the junk food, so they continue to
Speaker 3: get sicker and then eventually, like potentially they'll transition and
Speaker 3: then that's all these more medicine, more surgeries, more things,
Speaker 3: and then potentially now they're not happy, so they want
Speaker 3: to transition back, which does happen sometimes. So now you
Speaker 3: have more medicine, more surgeries, you're just feeding the system
Speaker 3: and they are continuously putting like junk. Like we're doom scrolling.
Speaker 3: So our attention spans are are dogs right like we
Speaker 3: have they are. It's come out recently that we have
Speaker 3: more people in their thirties with dimension now than ever before.
Speaker 3: There's this whole epidemic of thirty year old dementia patients
Speaker 3: because of doom scrolling. Because our attention spans, our brains
Speaker 3: aren't actually exercising.
Speaker 1: We just talked about it on my last episode Occajun Nights.
Speaker 2: So there is an Australian well, it's an American team
Speaker 2: of doctors, but it's actually being report on in Australia
Speaker 2: and New Zealand. Right now, kids that are basically just
Speaker 2: glued to the screens. Right you take your iPad from
Speaker 2: the kid and you hear him screaming and all this stuff, and.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, find it. He is addicted.
Speaker 2: But actually it is drastically affecting white matter development in
Speaker 2: the brain, which for anybody who doesn't know, if you
Speaker 2: were to I'm being a little colloquial here, but bear
Speaker 2: with me. Let's say that your brain is a series
Speaker 2: of wires, right, the white matter would basically be the
Speaker 2: shielding or the insulation on the outside of the wires.
Speaker 2: There is a direct correlation if somebody who is a
Speaker 2: year old to five years old and has more than
Speaker 2: I think they said thirty minutes of screen time a
Speaker 2: day is fine, more than thirty minutes period, and that
Speaker 2: means computer screen, TV screen, cell phone screen, iPad screen,
Speaker 2: All of that connects into screen time. So if they
Speaker 2: get more than thirty minutes per day, then it actually
Speaker 2: start to deteriorate. And by the time these kids are five, six, seven, ten, fifteen,
Speaker 2: they have no zero attention span. That's even fucked worse because,
Speaker 2: for instance, my kids have laptops that they learn off
Speaker 2: of at school, they come home and their hard work
Speaker 2: off of it. They can't get away from the screen time.
Speaker 2: And again, I think it's all a part of the
Speaker 2: goddamn plan.
Speaker 4: Speak it is that I don't know. So I was
Speaker 4: listening to the radio, which I don't normally typically do,
Speaker 4: but apparently there is a huge petition happening not only
Speaker 4: in our state, but also in multiple states where parents
Speaker 4: are coming together and going to the school board and
Speaker 4: demanding that the computers get shut off, that they only
Speaker 4: are allowed to have one hour of computer lab a day,
Speaker 4: and that they are going to print everything back out,
Speaker 4: and they have to be taught how to read and
Speaker 4: write the old way good.
Speaker 3: And they imagine that I.
Speaker 4: Know and they have to learn. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: so where do we go to actually implement this, because
Speaker 4: I plan on going to the next school board meeting
Speaker 4: and demanding that they block YouTube off of every single
Speaker 4: computer because the kids have found way is to get
Speaker 4: to porn. They found way is to get to Fortnite.
Speaker 4: They've found wee kid.
Speaker 2: Brings his Xbox remote with him to school because he
Speaker 2: plays Fortnite off of his school computer and he's doing
Speaker 2: it in such a way to where they don't catch him.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, yo, I'm about to yank your whole
Speaker 2: fucking life away from your kids.
Speaker 1: But no, we're not doing this.
Speaker 4: And it's not just one kid, it's all of them.
Speaker 4: Like my son explained to me how they worked it
Speaker 4: around the system to get to this game called Five
Speaker 4: Nights at Epstein Island and they were playing all the
Speaker 4: kids were playing it.
Speaker 1: It's like Five Nights at Freddy but way way darker.
Speaker 4: But you had to Yeah, they were playing this on
Speaker 4: their school laptop that's supposed to be child proof, that's
Speaker 4: supposed to be locked down, and all of these things.
Speaker 4: He's like, hey, guess what these kids have shown me today.
Speaker 4: And thankfully I have a really strong relationship with my
Speaker 4: child that actually tells me and shows me all these things.
Speaker 4: And he's like, look, he's like, uh, I've heard about
Speaker 4: porn from other people. They've found ways to get around it.
Speaker 4: They're using their laptops to be able to watch it.
Speaker 4: At school, the teachers are locked into their computers, they
Speaker 4: can actually see what everyone's doing in the class. Yet
Speaker 4: somehow they're able to go about doing.
Speaker 2: This because the kids keep finding ways around the firewall
Speaker 2: and around the systems, and like, you even talk to
Speaker 2: that teacher, she said.
Speaker 1: Like what every weird?
Speaker 4: Yeah, three hundred and eighty things is thus far that
Speaker 4: she's had a band, websites that she's had a band,
Speaker 4: and she said every week I have to do anywhere
Speaker 4: between twenty five to one hundred of them. I'm like
Speaker 4: at this point trying to ban oh my everything. And
Speaker 4: I was like, here's the simple way. Take the computer's away,
Speaker 4: the computer away, and how about you do actual computer
Speaker 4: lab where they have to physically have it one hour
Speaker 4: a day. And that's what they do. But other than that, well,
Speaker 4: and the whole thing is is that they have a
Speaker 4: whole Google classroom right and in that they have all
Speaker 4: of these files. It is so confusing, even for me,
Speaker 4: and I've gone to multiple schools. I'm like, wait, where
Speaker 4: is all of their actual homework that's due? And so
Speaker 4: I started printing stuff off and I had it. I
Speaker 4: went and had a conference with them and I was like, look,
Speaker 4: I'm printing things off because my child is struggling to
Speaker 4: find all of these things that are due. And it's
Speaker 4: not just my kid, it's all the kids. Why are
Speaker 4: we not just printing these things, I get it. I
Speaker 4: am you will never find probably so many more that's
Speaker 4: more crunchy about saving trees.
Speaker 6: But I also like, you know what, bitch, Look.
Speaker 1: We need paper, We need hard paper.
Speaker 3: People don't know how to write anymore. People don't they
Speaker 3: don't know how to.
Speaker 4: Spelling, They don't correct spelling, they don't don't right.
Speaker 1: To spell check. You don't need to.
Speaker 3: You don't need to.
Speaker 4: They use AI now they're allowed to use AI to
Speaker 4: you to create everything for them.
Speaker 5: This is the problem.
Speaker 3: And this is where I go back and forth because
Speaker 3: like we homeschool our children because I don't I don't
Speaker 3: agree with what the schools are doing these days, and
Speaker 3: so we're very adamant, like we're going to homeschool them.
Speaker 3: And my oldest is four, so like we're just learning
Speaker 3: how to read. We're doing very basic things. But we
Speaker 3: go back and forth with like what do we allow
Speaker 3: him to do on the computer and like on a
Speaker 3: tablet and on different things, and versus like what do
Speaker 3: we make him do like handwritten? Because if we keep
Speaker 3: him completely handwritten, which we've had this conversation, he's gonna
Speaker 3: be behind his peers, like he has to be on
Speaker 3: my son right, he has to be on something a
Speaker 3: little bit. So we've kind of like we've compromised, and
Speaker 3: we found this reading app where he does the app.
Speaker 3: It's like fifteen minutes, but I sit there the whole
Speaker 3: time with him, and the app is really good, Like
Speaker 3: it forced his parents to sit there because it does
Speaker 3: like parent check ins every now and then, which is good.
Speaker 3: But I sit there with him on the app. We
Speaker 3: do all the reading and then he's done, like that's
Speaker 3: his fifteen minutes of tablet time the whole day. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then like we're doing counting, we go outside, like
Speaker 3: these kids play outside more than any kids I've ever met.
Speaker 1: Like good.
Speaker 4: It was easy when they were little. It's when they
Speaker 4: get to the older ages is when it's really difficult.
Speaker 4: My son, I forced the school to make them print
Speaker 4: out everything until fifth grade, and then he was super
Speaker 4: behind the curve because he wasn't on the wasn't on
Speaker 4: the things. And I was like, yeah, but he was
Speaker 4: doing Longhand division up to eighth grade and because he
Speaker 4: went to a monastery school too, like I, which I
Speaker 4: firmly believe, and there was you know, he's caught up obviously,
Speaker 4: but at the same time, I'm like, none of these
Speaker 4: kids actually know how to do anything. They know and
Speaker 4: you're not even making it. They don't even test correct either.
Speaker 4: That's what kills me. This is this is where I
Speaker 4: have the biggest issue. When they take tests, they don't
Speaker 4: even give them the test back with corrections so that
Speaker 4: they could learn from it. They don't do any of it.
Speaker 4: So you get a D. You just get a D.
Speaker 4: All right, move on to the next thing. Screw it.
Speaker 1: Wait, is that how you did an organ That's how
Speaker 1: it's always been done here.
Speaker 4: That's not how we do it. In organ everything was
Speaker 4: test corrected, everything's everything's written with a red pencil is
Speaker 4: completely corrected.
Speaker 3: And then you could got it back.
Speaker 4: You could redo it, fixe fix the things that we're wrong.
Speaker 2: Oh no, And we would get it back with like
Speaker 2: the circle and the x'es and you would see what
Speaker 2: you got wrong with the correct one circle. But like
Speaker 2: you didn't get to turn it back in for more
Speaker 2: credit you got Like we didn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we didn't get to do it for every test.
Speaker 3: We got to do it for some tests, like and
Speaker 3: there were like certain tests like hey, this one you
Speaker 3: get to be cause if like more of the class
Speaker 3: failed it then they would get it back to be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: you get these are the questions that you can yeah,
Speaker 3: you can like fix and if you fix them, you
Speaker 3: get the credit back.
Speaker 4: Like point five, you get like point yeah, like half
Speaker 4: the half the credit point or whatever. But the thing
Speaker 4: about it is that there's not even a test correction
Speaker 4: thing to print out or to look at. You can
Speaker 4: see what you got wrong, but like you can't figure
Speaker 4: out what Okay, so I got it wrong. Could you
Speaker 4: at least let me know why I got this wrong?
Speaker 4: Or they're half answered wrong or things like that, And
Speaker 4: it's like, oh my god, the school isn't Sarah failing
Speaker 4: so hard? And it's just I don't know. I've been
Speaker 4: looking more and more into homeschooling, but I'm also like,
Speaker 4: might have one child that has goes to a dyslexia school,
Speaker 4: so she needs to be in school. But I just
Speaker 4: found out this morning that they aren't even teaching them
Speaker 4: or correcting them. They're spelling. You're talking about dyslexic kids
Speaker 4: that like physically don't hear them, Like can't they can't.
Speaker 4: You should read her writing and it's not just her,
Speaker 4: I've read everyone else is writing on the walls, and
Speaker 4: I was like, why are we not correcting this? Like
Speaker 4: we need to teach them how to actually.
Speaker 3: Spend about the point of the school.
Speaker 4: So the point of the school is to teach them
Speaker 4: to read and to give them so seventy percent of.
Speaker 3: But if they can't read, well they can't read.
Speaker 6: That's incorrect.
Speaker 2: Actually, so they can read it, but when they answer it,
Speaker 2: they will write it as it sounds rather than the
Speaker 2: actual word. They can read it, yeah, they're they're comprehending it,
Speaker 2: but whenever they write it out with their own hand,
Speaker 2: it's like, ah, fuck it.
Speaker 4: So discuss those flexic when you have So there's different
Speaker 4: variants of it and there's different degrees of it and stuff.
Speaker 4: So seventy percent of incarcerated people are dyslexic. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: a lot of it has to say that there is.
Speaker 4: They were just pushed through the systems and so they
Speaker 4: had to compromise and learn ways around not being able
Speaker 4: to read because nobody took the time to really help
Speaker 4: them understand stuff. And so this school, I'm assuming when
Speaker 4: she gets into the higher grades, they're going to focus
Speaker 4: more heavily. Right now, just really trying hard to implement
Speaker 4: the because confidence plays a huge role when you're reading,
Speaker 4: and especially when you've been a dissexy kid for a
Speaker 4: long time, like my because I'm des sex six, but
Speaker 4: not like my daughter. She is way uh way worse,
Speaker 4: I guess you could say. And so it's a it's
Speaker 4: a whole pattern of learning and a different type of learning.
Speaker 4: But it's interesting because if you sound out the words
Speaker 4: that she writes, you understand exactly what she's writing. But
Speaker 4: if you're waiting it, well, English just.
Speaker 3: So messed up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks it looks like jargon. When you're reading it,
Speaker 4: you're like, what she's saying the but I'm hoping that
Speaker 4: you know. But I'm also going to start implementing all summer.
Speaker 4: She's going to be doing a Montsory at home program
Speaker 4: and things like that. So, I mean, it's it's one
Speaker 4: of those things. I know, we got off on a
Speaker 4: whole tangent about education, but it's a it's a big
Speaker 4: thing though the many people parents are dealing with, uh
Speaker 4: you know, especially you're in the United States, because it
Speaker 4: is a hot fucking rack right now.
Speaker 3: I have a niece and she went into first grade
Speaker 3: reading out a third grade level, and she came out
Speaker 3: of first grade reading at a kindergarten level, Yeah, like
Speaker 3: how did you get? Like how do you go backwards?
Speaker 3: And then they weren't teaching. They decided, we don't need
Speaker 3: to teach you multiplication. You just don't need that.
Speaker 5: In one of her classes, they literally just played.
Speaker 3: Netflix movies the entire year.
Speaker 1: Hmm.
Speaker 3: What I was like, Yeah, this is in Atlanta, Like wow,
Speaker 3: you're like, okay. School is a public school, no public school,
Speaker 3: public school.
Speaker 5: And her parents.
Speaker 3: Went in and they like complained, They're like this is
Speaker 3: completely unacceptable, Like you need to be actually teaching our children.
Speaker 5: And they're like, this is what we have. These are
Speaker 5: the teachers we have at our disposal.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 2: I feel like most teachers, at least in the public
Speaker 2: school system, have no business being in a room with children,
Speaker 2: let alone being an educator.
Speaker 1: I'm just throwing that out.
Speaker 2: A lot of them just got a bachelor's degree in
Speaker 2: something that they couldn't find work in, so then they
Speaker 2: just went and took the state practice test and now
Speaker 2: they're teaching, and they really really shouldn't be left alone
Speaker 2: with thirty children period in any context, let alone shape.
Speaker 4: The young minds children and children. I taught for a
Speaker 4: brief stint at a monastery school and there was three
Speaker 4: of us teaching and three of us in the same house,
Speaker 4: and so we all taught different areas. And even that,
Speaker 4: with our I think we had like twenty four kids
Speaker 4: between the three of us. Even that, to show the
Speaker 4: amount of attention for each one to be able to
Speaker 4: actually understand the knowledge that you're teaching them was still
Speaker 4: a lot of work. And it's I think that at teachers.
Speaker 4: I think there are some really amazing teachers that have
Speaker 4: been struggling for a long time to try to make
Speaker 4: a difference. And then especially here, so we've raised technically
Speaker 4: in the national standards, we have raised for being really
Speaker 4: good schools. Well, here's the thing. All they do is
Speaker 4: grill all year long about taking the stupid ass tests.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that way they look better. That is it.
Speaker 4: That's all they care about. They don't care if you
Speaker 4: can actually read. They don't care if you can actually write,
Speaker 4: They don't care if you actually can do multiplication, none
Speaker 4: of it. As long as you can pass their little
Speaker 4: precious test, that's it.
Speaker 6: They don't they don't care.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama right now are apparently like
Speaker 1: the last hope for American education and BOP.
Speaker 2: And it's like, first of all, that is a really weird,
Speaker 2: weird sentence to say out loud. But then you look
Speaker 2: at the numbers and it's like, Okay, this state is
Speaker 2: it was ranked third from the bottom.
Speaker 1: Now it's number.
Speaker 2: Four in this and this one is now number two
Speaker 2: in this, and it's like there was a drastic jump
Speaker 2: last year or two in a couple of really key demographics.
Speaker 1: And it's like, okay, listen, I put the money there, well, well.
Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, right, So, Like I have kids that go
Speaker 2: to the public schools in Louisiana, and for the record,
Speaker 2: the school that they go to is not bad.
Speaker 1: It's not good.
Speaker 2: I would say it's above average. It's it's not mid tier.
Speaker 2: It's a little bitter than mid tier as far as
Speaker 2: the state is concerned. And I don't mean by the
Speaker 2: standardized test. I mean like, actually in the education they're receiving. Okay, fine,
Speaker 2: fair enough, right, And that being the case, if Louisiana
Speaker 2: is now that high up in the charts and I
Speaker 2: know the education these kids are getting, that gives me
Speaker 2: no hope for anywhere else. Like Alabama ranked higher for
Speaker 2: I think it was kids under ten Black kids under
Speaker 2: ten that can read. Alabama is ranked now higher than Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, but.
Speaker 3: What, like what is the like how many black kids
Speaker 3: are in Massachusetts?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Clearly like okay, is these these peoples aren't there a
Speaker 2: bit skewed, aren't they?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 4: I don't know the whole system, though, is they're definitely
Speaker 4: keeping people really dumb in America on purpose. And that's
Speaker 4: that goes into the food conversation and summer. Oh, I
Speaker 4: mean for sure they want to make a stummer because
Speaker 4: when you're dumb, you're not going to ask questions, You're
Speaker 4: not gonna have critical thinking, You're not going to have
Speaker 4: an imagination. You're going to fall in line, especially with
Speaker 4: good old Elon talking about you know, yeah, we just
Speaker 4: need to be implemented with one with AI and all
Speaker 4: of these things, and it's like neural okay, yeah, not
Speaker 4: just neurallink. Oh no, no, no, his goes way beyond neurallink.
Speaker 4: Transhumanism is a huge thing, and how they want to
Speaker 4: integrate us completely with AI to where AI, if you
Speaker 4: even have a thought, AI will know it and already
Speaker 4: start on doing it like you're going to pretty much
Speaker 4: become a vegetable.
Speaker 6: Realistically, It's like.
Speaker 2: Wally, I've said this so many times, and seriously, we're getting.
Speaker 3: Fatter, right, but we're getting fatter. We're watching our screens,
Speaker 3: we're doing nothing. Let the robots or AI or whoever
Speaker 3: take care of all of it. We don't need to
Speaker 3: worry about that. Then, what like what is the point then?
Speaker 1: And they keep saying that is going to help them
Speaker 1: be more creative, so.
Speaker 4: They want to. So Elon's thing, I watched it, and
Speaker 4: his whole thing was about human consciousness. So he wants
Speaker 4: to preserve human consciousness at all levels. Like that is
Speaker 4: his is to preserve this and to expand it into
Speaker 4: every universe possible pretty much every planet, every universe whatever.
Speaker 4: But then when I'm listening to him, I'm like, human consciousness,
Speaker 4: you're not talking about humans that are actually like functioning humans.
Speaker 4: We're talking about like just human consciousness as in like
Speaker 4: our brain power moving. Yeah, pretty much. So creating an
Speaker 4: actual matrix is what we're discussing.
Speaker 3: And he doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 4: Him and good old Larry Fink were up there just
Speaker 4: chatting all about it, and it's like, oh, we're just
Speaker 4: you know, having a good old talk, and I'm like, you,
Speaker 4: everyone should really be listening to not just Elon, but
Speaker 4: to Bill to Zuckerberg.
Speaker 2: They all need to get their shit together off those
Speaker 2: Epstein files before they be trying to tell the human
Speaker 2: race how to live.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry everyone is so pacified though that like the
Speaker 3: general population is not listening, like nobody's paying attention, and
Speaker 3: then they're not thinking for themselves, which goes back to
Speaker 3: the education thing. Like people and we just I just
Speaker 3: had this conversation. I had a raw Milk episode way
Speaker 3: back at the very beginning of the year, so I
Speaker 3: just recorded my Opinions episode for the month of January
Speaker 3: to Post and Patreon, and we were talking about raw milk,
Speaker 3: and we were having this conversation like why why, like
Speaker 3: why raw milk isn't right, Like it's not really like
Speaker 3: that big of a deal anymore because I did the
Speaker 3: whole episode on it.
Speaker 5: But like, the whole reason that it's still.
Speaker 3: Marketed the way that it's marketed is because you don't
Speaker 3: have to think about it now. You are just going
Speaker 3: to buy into what the government is giving you. And
Speaker 3: if you're gonna buy into something as small as milk,
Speaker 3: you're just gonna go to the store and buy the milk.
Speaker 3: Then you're gonna buy into the bread, and then you're
Speaker 3: gonna buy into the vegetables, and then you're gonna buy
Speaker 3: into the school system, and then you're gonna buy into
Speaker 3: the food that they're feeding your kids in the school
Speaker 3: system because they know best and they created the food pyramids.
Speaker 5: They know that.
Speaker 3: And then you're gonna buy into the vaccines because the
Speaker 3: government told you that. That's okay.
Speaker 5: Well, now you're buying into everything.
Speaker 3: The government's telling you. The government told you. Don't worry
Speaker 3: about don't worry about Epstein. Don't wory about the Epstein files.
Speaker 3: It was just him by himself, no weird stand against
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, well, perfect, and he's dead, so we
Speaker 3: can just wash our hands of that. It's not happening
Speaker 3: anywhere else, and nobody else is being bad and everything's fine.
Speaker 3: Wake up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am happy that there was one arrest made
Speaker 2: as far as the Epstein files are concerned.
Speaker 1: A couple more about Old Andy former Prince Andrew.
Speaker 4: At least a couple more apparently that have been trickling down, and.
Speaker 2: It's just gonna slaps on the wrists nobody's gonna get
Speaker 2: like brought to justice for this.
Speaker 1: That's not how this works.
Speaker 4: Nope, they're doing it for aliens though, happening as of
Speaker 4: last night, which the thing, the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Everybody's like, we want to see the flight logs, but hey, y'all,
Speaker 2: alien aliens might be real, and like nobody cared.
Speaker 4: Apparently Trump is like, we're full sending aliens. So like
Speaker 4: he apparently is releasing everything there is to that they
Speaker 4: can about aliens and he's like and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 4: we all know that you're doing this to get the
Speaker 4: heat off you.
Speaker 6: For Epstein, he's the.
Speaker 1: One that did it in twenty nineteen. It was it's
Speaker 1: literally a rinse and repeat.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, well Obamba fucked up quote unquote.
Speaker 2: Gave classified information, which did you see the interview?
Speaker 1: He didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said they're.
Speaker 4: Real, but I haven't actually seen them, that's what he said.
Speaker 4: And so but that triggered a whole log of crap.
Speaker 4: And so then that he've I'm like, so what you
Speaker 4: did it was is Trump probably went to Obama and
Speaker 4: was like, bro do something because we're hanging the Clintons
Speaker 4: out to dry. So you're on the chopping block next
Speaker 4: if you don't do something. So he went and did
Speaker 4: this interview and let it slip just enough to cause
Speaker 4: a frenzy so that Trump can step in and be like,
Speaker 4: you know what, let's tell everybody about these aliens. It's like, okay,
Speaker 4: it's so funny, cool, Glad we had that talk. Let's
Speaker 4: get back to Epstein and let's talk about actually the
Speaker 4: programs that he was funding. Let's not even talk about
Speaker 4: what he all the people involved. At this point, it's
Speaker 4: gonna be what it is because no one's actually gonna
Speaker 4: get arrested. Let's talk about the programs and what he's
Speaker 4: been doing for the last three decades. That's what we
Speaker 4: should all be focusing on, because obviously we all know
Speaker 4: these people are involved. We can all read with our
Speaker 4: eyeballs who's involved. Nothing is going to be pretty much
Speaker 4: happen to them as of right now in less society,
Speaker 4: and that means globally stands.
Speaker 6: Up, they're untouchable.
Speaker 4: But the programs are what we need to be worrying about,
Speaker 4: and the amount of eugenics and what they've discovered and
Speaker 4: how they've been doing well.
Speaker 3: I've been literally trying to like yell at people. I'm like,
Speaker 3: it's so much deeper than sex trafficking. You know that
Speaker 3: they're giving you sex trafficking. That like that's the happy
Speaker 3: go lucky story that they want you to believe. That's
Speaker 3: like they're like, here, take this. It's like a little
Speaker 3: like package was a little like bo on top and
Speaker 3: they're like, here go sex trafficking.
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, guys.
Speaker 3: No, they're doing so much worse than sex and trafficking.
Speaker 4: So the sex trafficking was just like was like the
Speaker 4: candy was like the sugar on top. What they needed
Speaker 4: those people, what they needed the children for was their genes.
Speaker 4: That's what they needed them for. And I'm like, that's
Speaker 4: what when we were talking earlier before we got on
Speaker 4: and I said, I've been working on something for like
Speaker 4: over a week. That is what I've been working on.
Speaker 4: And it's insane how deep it goes.
Speaker 2: I've been trying to have this conversation with people for
Speaker 2: years that like Epstein Island first of all, was not
Speaker 2: the worst place these kids could have ended up. No,
Speaker 2: Epstein himself wasn't the top tier monster. Granted he was
Speaker 2: one of the ones. He was one of for sure,
Speaker 2: one of the most horrific. Yeah, he was expendable exactly.
Speaker 2: He was somebody's bitch. That's the only reason why we
Speaker 2: know anything about him. There's islands in Asia, there's islands
Speaker 2: in Africa, There's all these spots that we're doing the
Speaker 2: worst things that you Your brain.
Speaker 4: Can't facility underneath Harvard. Probably I believe there's an entire
Speaker 4: underground facility under high I agree with that.
Speaker 2: The human brain can actually conceptualize the shit that's going
Speaker 2: on right now. And it's not because of the sex trafficking,
Speaker 2: although that is a faction. It is not just because
Speaker 2: of the adrenochrome, although that is also a faction. It
Speaker 2: is not just the Satanic sacrificial rituals these people are doing,
Speaker 2: which that is all so a faction.
Speaker 1: There is so many levels to this.
Speaker 2: And I was having this conversation with my dad and
Speaker 2: my brother in law and my brother at my parents'
Speaker 2: house is past weekend. I'm like, y'all understand that just
Speaker 2: this last Epstein drop, all that did was confirm the
Speaker 2: shit that we've been talking about for years. But please
Speaker 2: understand that is not the end of the rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: We're not even to the mid section. This is still
Speaker 2: surface level shit and they're like, so, wait, what do
Speaker 2: you mean. I'm like, do you remember ten years ago
Speaker 2: when I told you every Satanic temple realistically needs to
Speaker 2: be burned to the ground because they are raping and
Speaker 2: murdering children inside of it. Well, yeah, I was like,
Speaker 2: so do you believe me now? Oh, whenever I said
Speaker 2: that every Masonic lodge has their ties to some very deep,
Speaker 2: dark inner workings. And even if the guys that attend
Speaker 2: the meetings aren't a part of it, somebody in that
Speaker 2: group knows somebody who knows somebody who is in that group.
Speaker 2: Are you listening now, Well, what are we supposed to do?
Speaker 2: Dad's the million dollar question right now?
Speaker 4: Question, right now?
Speaker 3: Right? But like, what do we do? I was like,
Speaker 3: we need to burn it down, all of it. Like,
Speaker 3: but you sound crazy and not you like I get it,
Speaker 3: But like, right, we're over here screaming this at the
Speaker 3: top of along. Somebody listens, somebody like like, guys, like,
Speaker 3: wake up, Like we have to band together because we're
Speaker 3: only as good as each other. We can't do this law.
Speaker 5: But who's gonna listen? They're like, you sound crazy.
Speaker 3: You you mean to tell me that the government is
Speaker 3: sexually abusing, satanically rich, uh, ritually killing children. You want
Speaker 3: me to believe that? And I'm like, yeah, I do.
Speaker 4: And here's the group, like that's the problem, and they don't.
Speaker 4: They don't even Yeah, so that's school.
Speaker 3: I am so fucking deep.
Speaker 4: Harvard, Harvard in and of itself, a lot of those
Speaker 4: Ivy League schools.
Speaker 2: Harvard is the talking point right now. But y'all just
Speaker 2: wear the Yale and m I tucking Waldorf.
Speaker 4: By the way, I Rockefeller and oh with But Epstein
Speaker 4: had them all at his island.
Speaker 6: Yep So, yeah, like the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, No, So the Harvard in and of itself,
Speaker 4: We're just gonna touch on that. I'm convinced that there
Speaker 4: is an entire facility underneath that is conducting absolutely horrific
Speaker 4: experiments on humans, and I will I have actual reason.
Speaker 6: Why I believe this.
Speaker 4: But Epstein, like he didn't just fund this school, like
Speaker 4: he pretty much made this school in the sense of
Speaker 4: all of the money that he contributed, all the people
Speaker 4: that he brought together, all the people that he had
Speaker 4: on his island. He would host summits, literal scientific summits
Speaker 4: on Little Saint James.
Speaker 1: There's a Big AI summit in twenty or two thousand
Speaker 1: and two.
Speaker 4: He would do AI, he would do scientific ones. He
Speaker 4: would go there. He had an actual office there. He
Speaker 4: had a swipe key to every single building period, every
Speaker 4: office he had a swipe key too. And I actually
Speaker 4: confirmed that with four different sources, because at first I
Speaker 4: didn't believe it. But no, he actually did have a
Speaker 4: swipe key for everything. Oh boy, the president was his homie.
Speaker 1: Who has now been removed from his position.
Speaker 4: But all the other scientists that are still there, all
Speaker 4: the funding that he gave still being used, all the
Speaker 4: programs that he had a huge hand in, are still
Speaker 4: moving forward and have not led up one bit.
Speaker 3: So because they weren't reporting to Epstein. The money was
Speaker 3: flowing through Epstein to Harvard, but they weren't not reporting
Speaker 3: to Epstein. Epstein was simply a middleman.
Speaker 4: Well it was actually involved in multiple of these programs.
Speaker 4: Physically himself, his cellular and makeup was involved in these
Speaker 4: actual programs.
Speaker 2: But now it's like, Okay, was this scientist and there's
Speaker 2: a group of them that absolutely were. They were very
Speaker 2: well aware of who they were working for. They knew
Speaker 2: that this was dark shit that they were doing, and
Speaker 2: they said fuck it for the good of science.
Speaker 1: There's others that is it possible. They were just working
Speaker 1: on their.
Speaker 2: Field of science and they just needed the funding, and
Speaker 2: they didn't really ask questions where the money came from.
Speaker 4: There's a few of them that I'm struggling to side
Speaker 4: when I'm looking into them. They needed backing for these programs,
Speaker 4: and on the surface level of reading their actual websites
Speaker 4: and what they've been doing, there is a lot of
Speaker 4: positive things that they've done.
Speaker 6: So, for example, is e Genesis.
Speaker 4: E Genesis is a program that they are using animal
Speaker 4: DNA to create extra organs for people because every day
Speaker 4: so many people die waiting on the organ donor list.
Speaker 6: We don't have enough organs to donate two people.
Speaker 4: So to alleviate this, they are splicing doing different things.
Speaker 1: Like that, making chimeras and shit.
Speaker 4: He funded a large portion of this, which was co
Speaker 4: founded by George Church, which is a whole nother talking point,
Speaker 4: but lu Han Yang is the other co founder of
Speaker 4: that specific thing. As far as I can tell, she
Speaker 4: did have one hundred and ten references to Epstein in
Speaker 4: the emails, all of them I've read, every single one.
Speaker 4: All of them was very polite, very basic, very about money,
Speaker 4: about the percentages. So Jeffrey owns fifteen percent of the company.
Speaker 4: He also had a fifteen percent discount on all organ
Speaker 4: trans transplants moving forward once they were able to secure it.
Speaker 4: So she doesn't Honestly, she herself doesn't seem like a
Speaker 4: terrible person. That being said, she had direct, actual connection
Speaker 4: contact with Epstein, met with him and several other scientists
Speaker 4: multiple times, which are confirmed in the emails. So it's
Speaker 4: one of those things of like this was after you
Speaker 4: were already arrested, so you yeah, unless this is a
Speaker 4: thing of like you just didn't give a fucking your
Speaker 4: meeting with whatever investor because your colleague above you told
Speaker 4: you this is what we're doing, this is how we'll
Speaker 4: get the funding. Okay, maybe we could have that conversation,
Speaker 4: but on the surface, it's really difficult to judge each
Speaker 4: one of these scientists because they're getting funding from all
Speaker 4: over the place. But some of these scientists have had
Speaker 4: actual interactions multiple times.
Speaker 6: Because it was interesting.
Speaker 4: George Church actually went on in one of the interviews
Speaker 4: and was like he's like collecting us, He's collecting scientists,
Speaker 4: and like that's like a known fact within the science
Speaker 4: community that Epstein was collecting them and was like grouping
Speaker 4: them all together in pairs, which leads to that email
Speaker 4: that we saw yep that literally is talking about grouping
Speaker 4: them in their sections of what they were good at,
Speaker 4: and then goes down into break breaks them down into
Speaker 4: eye color, height and all sorts of stuff, And it
Speaker 4: looked like they were going to utilize their they were
Speaker 4: going to request their DNA to utilize their DNA because
Speaker 4: they were the top elites of each one of their classes,
Speaker 4: and so at least from the emails that we've seen,
Speaker 4: it looks like that. But then it all supposes a question.
Speaker 4: Were you actually involved in Epstein in the sense of
Speaker 4: you knew how dirty this was and you said fuck
Speaker 4: it for the name of science and you wanted to
Speaker 4: create these things. Or were you unaware of how nefarious
Speaker 4: he was and you were taking funding because this was
Speaker 4: backing your pet project that you really wanted to push forward.
Speaker 4: I don't know the answer to this. So when we
Speaker 4: do the episode about all the scientists and stuff, which
Speaker 4: is coming up in the next few days, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be one of those things. And like, that's why I
Speaker 4: want to get George Church on the actual cult. I
Speaker 4: want to talk to him about realistically what he's been doing,
Speaker 4: because man, oh man, he's done a lot, but I
Speaker 4: want to ask at the very end. You know, I've
Speaker 4: seen your I've seen all the interviews where he talked
Speaker 4: about his ties to Epstein, and he realistically was like,
Speaker 4: I honestly was just so concerned with my being able
Speaker 4: to do this research and to move forward with these
Speaker 4: projects that like, I didn't care where the funding was
Speaker 4: coming from.
Speaker 1: Don't sorry, innocence.
Speaker 4: I was like, I'm sorry, I don't believe you because
Speaker 4: you yourself were His emails are not as straightforward.
Speaker 6: As lu Han's. So this is one of the things of.
Speaker 4: Like he for sure probably, I mean, he has fifty
Speaker 4: companies right now to date, fifty companies in all different
Speaker 4: sectors of biology, genetics, genome research, you, I mean, you
Speaker 4: name it, pretty much anything that we're moving forward as
Speaker 4: a species of humans. He is the one that created them.
Speaker 4: He is actually more He is more advanced than Elon
Speaker 4: ever could wish in the genome race. Like that's how
Speaker 4: advanced this guy is.
Speaker 3: So they were doing all these experiments, all those experiments
Speaker 3: for like all the different like the crazy science stuff
Speaker 3: they're doing. That's what they're doing on these kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah, way, how the kids were They needed peer sequencings.
Speaker 4: So and each sequencing costs around one hundred and ninety
Speaker 4: thousand dollars, by the way, to get your DNA sequencing
Speaker 4: the way that they needed it is about one hundred
Speaker 4: and ninety grand. STEM paid it not once, but four times,
Speaker 4: by the way, with four separate scientists.
Speaker 2: And I mean like we're talking about like, for instance,
Speaker 2: you went on an archaeological dig site, right, did you
Speaker 2: know for sure where the funding was coming from.
Speaker 4: I had no idea where the funding one was coming from.
Speaker 4: So I couldn't even ask because I asked about like
Speaker 4: where stuff was coming from atop so they they would
Speaker 4: call it the barn. That's where all of the human
Speaker 4: remains and things like that would go. Would be go
Speaker 4: to the barn. Now what Likenessee that place in Tennessee. No, no,
Speaker 4: so this is.
Speaker 2: Not the death farm where they like live bodies and
Speaker 2: like take pictures for No.
Speaker 1: No, so, I oh that is a really cool facility.
Speaker 4: I should say that I did a dig in Miami, Florida,
Speaker 4: and they would we would categorize every single thing. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm talking down to like a bead that does this
Speaker 4: small we would sift it out and it would be categorized,
Speaker 4: and everything is. We would have specific people that had
Speaker 4: different backgrounds that could utilize their at least estimating when
Speaker 4: things were created what they might be. And then we
Speaker 4: had also people that studied bones and were able to
Speaker 4: find human remains, and that stuff was handled completely different,
Speaker 4: and that would be shipped off to the barn, to
Speaker 4: the police, to the next place of where it would
Speaker 4: ever go. And that's where the big scientists were in
Speaker 4: the anthropologists or archaeologists, and all of the different people
Speaker 4: were and then they would do other things. I up
Speaker 4: with people in that area and they still like one
Speaker 4: person had been there one But.
Speaker 2: That's my point though, So like that dig site had
Speaker 2: to be funded by somebody. Now, some of these are
Speaker 2: funded by universities, right, and certain universities might pull money
Speaker 2: together from this anthropologies section, this archaeology section, whatever, and
Speaker 2: that will fund the dig site.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: But let's say there is some wealthy benefactor or group
Speaker 2: of benefactors that is throwing all the money into it.
Speaker 2: That's how you got paid, That's how all your people
Speaker 2: got paid. The equipment, all this and the lead scientist
Speaker 2: isn't really concerned with who's paying for it, even if
Speaker 2: it is literal blood money from African blood diamonds, like
Speaker 2: it could be anything.
Speaker 4: I know that that I met some of them. So
Speaker 4: the one funding group was Arabic, which is really interesting
Speaker 4: because this has had nothing to do with Arabics, but
Speaker 4: interesting they had other silent investors, So I get what
Speaker 4: you're saying. So like it's it's one of those difficult
Speaker 4: things of when like you're on the ground verse like
Speaker 4: when you're high up in it. I mean I had
Speaker 4: the I actually got to like spend a lot more time.
Speaker 4: I got my way like kind of upper you know,
Speaker 4: learning different things and asking a lot of different questions.
Speaker 4: But even that I worked there for months and I
Speaker 4: still didn't even know what was done at the facility
Speaker 4: or you know, what actually came back of the real
Speaker 4: carbon dating of things. Because you have to understand some
Speaker 4: of the information from my understanding from other people that
Speaker 4: had been doing this a lot longer than me. There
Speaker 4: is dig sites where you find things that don't fall
Speaker 4: in line with the historical timeline that is discussed in America,
Speaker 4: or they've done stuff overseas and they also said that
Speaker 4: that's the thing too, and so everything is taken and
Speaker 4: taken to a place where it's going to be carbondated,
Speaker 4: and all of these things are going to be done
Speaker 4: to it. Those people I've never met, I met one,
Speaker 4: I met the doctor, and they are the ones that
Speaker 4: decide what's going to be actually released and where it
Speaker 4: goes and what happens to it. I cannot honestly tell you.
Speaker 4: But that means that if the narrative, though, is different
Speaker 4: from what we're learning in the history books and it
Speaker 4: goes against what we previously learned, it depends on who's
Speaker 4: going to allow that information to happen, so like, because
Speaker 4: they have to all talk to each other, like they
Speaker 4: have to. From my understanding is they all have to
Speaker 4: like pretty much, there's like a a group of them
Speaker 4: that are like higher up, and like they decide who
Speaker 4: is going to be the ones to release what type
Speaker 4: of information. Because depending on what you find, which nothing
Speaker 4: there would I you know, there are some things that
Speaker 4: change that would change the narrative, but nothing, you know, crazy,
Speaker 4: I mean, it depends on what you find, though it
Speaker 4: could be something that would absolutely shake the foundation of
Speaker 4: what we thought.
Speaker 6: Now, will it get released or not.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I have no idea.
Speaker 3: Well, it's like when we're in the military, right, military,
Speaker 3: And I mean, I'm sure you guys come across all
Speaker 3: the time like, oh the military was doing this, so
Speaker 3: the military was doing that.
Speaker 5: Blah blah blah, and I'm reporting all these things.
Speaker 3: And then people are like, weren't like you were in
Speaker 3: the military, didn't you know any of this? And I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: it's all so compartmentalized. Like we would go out and
Speaker 3: we would do surveillance and reconnaissance. That was my job,
Speaker 3: and so we'd fly around, we'd do what we do,
Speaker 3: and then whatever we collect, we would then send it
Speaker 3: off and that stuff could potentially go to another squadron
Speaker 3: that maybe needed to collect even more information, or maybe
Speaker 3: it was enough information. It goes to boots on the
Speaker 3: ground to give them what they need, or it goes
Speaker 3: to another squadron which now can like bomb them. Like
Speaker 3: I don't know what we were doing, but like you know,
Speaker 3: like as an example, they could do anything with that
Speaker 3: information and I don't know what it is, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: And so like and I don't even know why why
Speaker 3: were you even sent there in first place? Why were
Speaker 3: we even collecting the surveillance and the reconnaissance that we
Speaker 3: were collecting, and like, we don't know any of that information, right,
Speaker 3: we just know this is the We go, we do it,
Speaker 3: and we come back, we give it to whoever we
Speaker 3: give it to.
Speaker 5: We don't even know who that is, and then we
Speaker 5: move on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's all so compartmentalized that like that's how
Speaker 3: everything is.
Speaker 2: I mean to say that, Oh, you were in the military,
Speaker 2: didn't you see this? Didn't you hear murmurs of this?
Speaker 2: Y'all gotta understand the rumor mill within the lower enlisted
Speaker 2: of the United States military. Oh my god, everybody has
Speaker 2: heard something from somebody who's got a friend somewhere at
Speaker 2: the top, and it's like it doesn't it doesn't matter,
Speaker 2: it doesn't actually hear anything.
Speaker 4: I'll say, when I was in I didn't hear anything
Speaker 4: conspiratorial at the places that I was around and seeing shit.
Speaker 1: I was in d C. That's all we talked about.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you were into C d C. I
Speaker 4: was in Afghanistan pretty much like over half my enlistment,
Speaker 4: so I just you know, I don't I didn't really
Speaker 4: hear much of it. The only thing I heard of
Speaker 4: was opium fields.
Speaker 1: Oh, that was one hundred percent why we were there.
Speaker 4: That was so that I heard.
Speaker 5: I tried to say, but I didn't want to know.
Speaker 4: I didn't hear anything. I wouldn't say I heard anything
Speaker 4: of the sort. The biggest conversation that was happening while
Speaker 4: I was in while I was getting out was don't ask,
Speaker 4: don't tell policy being repealed and like or going to
Speaker 4: be repealed, and in conversation that was a mess. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like it was going to be repealed. I think you
Speaker 4: got repealed right before I got.
Speaker 1: Out twelve I was.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it was right before.
Speaker 4: I got out, and so people were had That was
Speaker 4: a heavy topic. But other than that, there was not
Speaker 4: a lot of conversations happening around me. At least that
Speaker 4: was something I'd be.
Speaker 3: Like, you know that really stuck out.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to survive my every day. Yeah, So, like
Speaker 4: us lower enlisted are not privy to a lot of
Speaker 4: this stuff at all. So I mean, I don't I
Speaker 4: wouldn't trust a you know, eighteen to twenty two year
Speaker 4: old with some heavy information when it comes.
Speaker 3: To well, I went through I went through seer school,
Speaker 3: which was crazy. So after going through that, they're like,
Speaker 3: you know, if you ever go down this like you're
Speaker 3: gonna get interrogated all these things.
Speaker 5: So I like go to the school and then I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I don't want to know.
Speaker 3: Like we had, we flew on a top secret plane,
Speaker 3: so like everything that's on the plane, everything we're doing,
Speaker 3: is top secret.
Speaker 5: I tried my hardest not.
Speaker 3: To learn anything that we were doing. I could fix
Speaker 3: the equipment because that was my job. My job was
Speaker 3: to fix it. You break it, I can fix it,
Speaker 3: no problem. I don't want to know what you're actually
Speaker 3: doing because if we do go down and we do
Speaker 3: get interrogated, I'm not very good at keeping secrets. So
Speaker 3: I just don't want to know what the secrets are
Speaker 3: because then I can just like I'm not playing ignorant,
Speaker 3: I actually ignorant. I have no idea.
Speaker 2: Look to protect me from myself, Homie, the less information
Speaker 2: I know, the better.
Speaker 5: No, I don't want to know.
Speaker 4: I don't want to know. I mean I single thing.
Speaker 5: I was like, that's who my husband is.
Speaker 4: I need to know everything I learned. I went and
Speaker 4: learned from the civilian contractors. I went and learned on
Speaker 4: my own time everything I could about everything. Because I
Speaker 4: was like, what's happening, what are we doing? What's actually
Speaker 4: going on? I was I'm too nosy for my own goods.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Was supposed to know more things than I did.
Speaker 3: And honestly, I just had the operator there and I
Speaker 3: was like, does look like what it's supposed to look like?
Speaker 3: And they're like, no, it's supposed to be doing like
Speaker 3: this thing.
Speaker 5: And I'm like okay.
Speaker 3: And then I'd hit the computer and they're like, now
Speaker 3: does it look like what it's supposed to be doing?
Speaker 3: And they're like, is this how you fix things? I'm like,
Speaker 3: hold on, let me just pull that thing out. I
Speaker 3: drop it on the floor. I'm like, ah, it looks good.
Speaker 3: And they're like, yeah, you should use some tools or
Speaker 3: something like oh no, Like I use a lot.
Speaker 6: Of spit to connect to connect a.
Speaker 5: Little bit of bubble gum.
Speaker 4: We had these little radio so we had little things.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was calm, so like we have like a little
Speaker 4: thing that connects to each one and like you had
Speaker 4: to like get it just right and sometimes you have
Speaker 4: to lick it to get it to work, and you
Speaker 4: know whatever, but.
Speaker 3: You gotta do what you gotta do. I yeah, no,
Speaker 3: I did hit a monitor in front of our skipper
Speaker 3: one time. Like the pilots called me up because they're
Speaker 3: navigation computer or like monitor was acting up. So I
Speaker 3: go up there and I look at it, and I
Speaker 3: look at it and I was like, excuse me, sir,
Speaker 3: because our skipper was flying with us that day. And
Speaker 3: I get up there and I just like start banging
Speaker 3: on it, and my pilot was pissed. He's like, mercy stop.
Speaker 5: I was like, what, Like, I'm gonna fix it. You
Speaker 5: told me to fix it.
Speaker 3: He's like, dude, like the skippers right here.
Speaker 5: I was like, and he can see that I'm fixing it.
Speaker 1: I'm doing my job, bro.
Speaker 3: He was screaming at me.
Speaker 4: He's like stopt had the opportunity to like actually get
Speaker 4: some serious intel and you're just like no, no, no,
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 6: That's so fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to know, And now I hear a
Speaker 2: professional conspiracy theorists and it's like, damn not me.
Speaker 3: I would well, okay, so I have some channels. If
Speaker 3: I want to know some things, I can find things out. Sure,
Speaker 3: I call people when I'm ready.
Speaker 1: Heard that heard that.
Speaker 2: I was just a grunt and I was in d
Speaker 2: C so I had I have friends that are now
Speaker 2: in upper echelon units and three letter agencies and things
Speaker 2: like that, because to be station where I was, even
Speaker 2: doing what I was, it is a really good segue
Speaker 2: to get in, even if it's at the lower levels.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you leave exactly so, they already got
Speaker 2: you with a TS and so they're already the expensive
Speaker 2: part of your background check is done and be because
Speaker 2: you're here, they know that at least you've got some
Speaker 2: sort of a brain stem that works, and you're trainable
Speaker 2: and you look the part, and you understand time and
Speaker 2: place in this and this.
Speaker 1: So like, all right, if you wanted to start working
Speaker 1: at a lower level to the CIA or the ATF
Speaker 1: or Secret Service. Hell, three of my homies work Secret
Speaker 1: Service now, and so.
Speaker 3: It's that's funny. My husband was just like, hey, I
Speaker 3: should join the Secret Service. They're hiring, and I was.
Speaker 4: Like they are that. Yeah, He's like, I'm joining.
Speaker 3: The Secret Service. I was like, I like where we live, Like.
Speaker 5: I'm not already move.
Speaker 4: You probably wouldn't even get on though, with your ties though.
Speaker 5: That's what I was like. I'm onto any lists.
Speaker 4: I wish I wouldn't have let my uh, my top
Speaker 4: secret clearance go to the wayside. Though I was dumb,
Speaker 4: I should have just kept it up.
Speaker 1: But I mean, for what purpose?
Speaker 4: Because I want it?
Speaker 1: And how does that?
Speaker 4: How do you as an individual keep that up? You
Speaker 4: can actually read renew it when you have it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so you can renew it once you have it. Once
Speaker 4: you have it, you can renew it every ten years.
Speaker 4: But once it lapses, then you're screwed.
Speaker 1: I had no idea.
Speaker 3: Every ten years. We had to do every five years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well it was every ten, so I don't know
Speaker 6: the change.
Speaker 2: They might have made you redo it every five but
Speaker 2: it actually runs for ten So like mine, I got.
Speaker 1: Like mine, I'm out in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Mine dropped in five years.
Speaker 4: Maybe because you were in When did you join thirteen? Yeah,
Speaker 4: so you were?
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 6: I was in four years.
Speaker 4: So maybe they didn't get.
Speaker 3: My clearance until twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: I got out in twenty fourteen. Maybe they changed the parameters.
Speaker 2: I remember TS used to run for ten years.
Speaker 3: I wanted to know TSSCI is it different for just
Speaker 3: regular TS SCI?
Speaker 5: Okay, so maybe that was it.
Speaker 1: You had TSSECI, didn't you?
Speaker 4: I think?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got it at the very end. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: then I was going to just let my regular one
Speaker 4: just be the ten year one and just you know whatever.
Speaker 4: But I did not because I wanted to work for
Speaker 4: Harrish Radio. So that's where I've always wanted to work
Speaker 4: was for Harrish Radio. So that's the biggest contractor.
Speaker 3: Taylor got in in two thousand and eight and his
Speaker 3: clearance he got out in twenty fifteen, and his clearance
Speaker 3: had just dropped as he was getting out, and they,
Speaker 3: because he was getting out because he tried, they wouldn't
Speaker 3: re up it.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, yeah, it makes sense.
Speaker 3: So because he didn't get it until like twenty ten
Speaker 3: because of like his delays and training and all that.
Speaker 5: So yeah, he only had a five year clearance.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that you could just reup it a
Speaker 2: secret clearance civilian.
Speaker 3: You have to pay for it, but yeah, pay once
Speaker 3: you have it, so yeah, it's pretty expense.
Speaker 4: I wanted it because I wanted to work in the
Speaker 4: upper echelon things. But I have friends that and you'll
Speaker 4: get hired easier if you have it. Yeah, I have
Speaker 4: friends that still are doing high up things and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. Like two of my friends just made master
Speaker 4: sergeant Master guns.
Speaker 1: So good for them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they've you know a lot of people have
Speaker 4: made have stuck around and done some cool things, but
Speaker 4: it just didn't work out. Like I wanted to work
Speaker 4: for top secret.
Speaker 2: Most of my boys I heard, but they're just now
Speaker 2: getting to gunny because they're still grunts and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you'll have that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Calm's a different world.
Speaker 3: What is gunny?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: For you? You're in the navy? Correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this would be a master chief.
Speaker 3: Nine.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, hold on, sergeant is y'all's PO
Speaker 1: two staff starring y'all's PO one, So chief, this would
Speaker 1: be 'alls chief.
Speaker 6: I have never been good at seven seven. Yeah, they
Speaker 6: cross between the two.
Speaker 4: I'm always like no.
Speaker 3: So in the Navy, like E seven and above, those
Speaker 3: chiefs man the chief, senior chief, master chief, they run
Speaker 3: the navy. Oh that is a fact.
Speaker 2: When the chiefs go to the war room and they
Speaker 2: make a decision, even if they were divided before they
Speaker 2: went into the war room, when they come out, there's.
Speaker 3: Something about the chiefs. And I've learned about this with
Speaker 3: other branches. E seven and above does not have the
Speaker 3: pool and other branches the way EAT seven and above
Speaker 3: has a pool in the Navy, and they are aggressive
Speaker 3: about it. That's why they do this whole like initiation thing,
Speaker 3: this whole it's not hazing because it's chief training, right,
Speaker 3: and it's wild and they run the They run the navy.
Speaker 2: That is an absolute fact. Senior chief, Master chief and
Speaker 2: chief that yeah, absolutely runs the Navy.
Speaker 1: And like I have watched ad rules capitulate to a
Speaker 1: senior chief before and it's like if the chief.
Speaker 3: Walks in, and if chief walks in and they got
Speaker 3: two more chiefs with them, you're like, whatever you want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just I don't want this fight homing. I
Speaker 2: don't know what smoke you're bringing, but I don't want it.
Speaker 3: The minute they call it, it doesn't matter. Hey, man,
Speaker 3: Like this is Chief so and so from wherever. I've
Speaker 3: never met you before, But what do you need? I
Speaker 3: got it for you. Because there's there's something weird about
Speaker 3: the chiefs.
Speaker 1: So in the Marine Corps we have.
Speaker 4: Like the chief os man, the chiefos are where it's
Speaker 4: at warrant officers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, y'all do, but it's very we do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: fields that actually even have them. Mostly it's just that
Speaker 2: there's no need because if you're going to go officer rout,
Speaker 2: you would have started officer route or you'd be a
Speaker 2: Mustang if you're already an eight Mustang.
Speaker 1: A Mustang is those that go from enlisted to crossover.
Speaker 4: Those are really cool ones. Those are bad ass. Most
Speaker 4: of them are man. Most of them are bad ass.
Speaker 1: I've only had one like I always liked. So yeah.
Speaker 2: But so for the Marine Corps, we have when you
Speaker 2: get to eh, you got first sargant and master sergeant,
Speaker 2: and then you have sergeant major and master guns. Those
Speaker 2: two kind of running weird clicks in and of themselves
Speaker 2: because one handles the administrative side of things and one
Speaker 2: handles the job scope side of things.
Speaker 1: So like when you get to or right, so you'll
Speaker 1: have chiefs.
Speaker 2: So basically, when you get to the rank of senior
Speaker 2: chief or master chief, you'll have these guys that will
Speaker 2: be like, uh, the first sergeant of an entire company
Speaker 2: or the battalion sergeant major. And these guys who, regardless
Speaker 2: of what job field they were in that led up
Speaker 2: to that point, now they only handle the administrative section
Speaker 2: for a large group of Marines.
Speaker 1: Which you solid how would suck. There's pros and cons.
Speaker 3: So with that when you joined, like be boots on
Speaker 3: the ground like in the fight.
Speaker 1: But you also get cross trained.
Speaker 2: So like let's say that you were hypothetically a grunt
Speaker 2: for your entire career, you get to first sardant status.
Speaker 2: Now you might be the first start of some like
Speaker 2: logistics hub in the middle of nowhere. You get to
Speaker 2: chill for a couple of years, you know. Or because
Speaker 2: there's more avenues of approach. Let's say that there's a
Speaker 2: Marine Corps installation that has no grunts, but they need
Speaker 2: a first sergeant over here. Now you're able to like
Speaker 2: it makes you more adaptable, which is cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But on the other side, if you.
Speaker 2: Go master sergeant rank, you still hold all of your
Speaker 2: job scope and you're still you're scene as more of
Speaker 2: an expert of whatever your job field has within it.
Speaker 1: That's a very small field.
Speaker 2: And those guys the first urns a running their own
Speaker 2: click and whatever. Master sergeants and master guns those that's
Speaker 2: kind of like the chiefs of the Marine Corps.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying macbones of the Marine Corps.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the movers and shakers.
Speaker 2: I'm saying that if you try to go up against
Speaker 2: one of them, you're gonna have a bad time.
Speaker 1: There's like zero.
Speaker 3: Just stayed away from the Marines. You guys are crazy, thank.
Speaker 4: You, weird like a happy jolly bunch, thank you.
Speaker 5: I don't like them. They're weird. We are, but you
Speaker 5: know it's cool, like an aircrew school weird.
Speaker 3: We have some marines come through, happy. We have marines
Speaker 3: come through all the time. So they always made them
Speaker 3: call Cadence because you guys are just better than we are.
Speaker 4: I think that comes with the truth, way better than
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 3: Really.
Speaker 5: That's in aircrew school. They're like, oh, where's marines. You're
Speaker 5: a marine.
Speaker 3: You're doing Cadence.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's fantastic at it.
Speaker 5: And then we'd always have a run everywhere.
Speaker 4: I'm an adequate person when it comes to that. But
Speaker 4: to be honest, though, I really didn't drill hardly ever
Speaker 4: period ever because I was doing things. So I was
Speaker 4: in the.
Speaker 3: Ice boot camp only.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was my goal. I was trying to
Speaker 1: go and be a deployable grunt.
Speaker 4: She was a fancy Marine.
Speaker 2: Instead I got sent to DC to do ceremonial shit.
Speaker 2: I worked at the Navy a lot. As a matter of.
Speaker 4: Fact, he's a fancy one I'm the I'm the nasty,
Speaker 4: dirty one that's in the which is so crazy because.
Speaker 1: You're calm and you're a female and I'm a grunt
Speaker 1: and I'm a dude, and somehow it's like Wow.
Speaker 2: As far as the military experiences, everybody experiences may vary.
Speaker 3: Yes, well, and that's how like Taylor and I we
Speaker 3: flow on the exact same plane. There's like twenty four
Speaker 3: people on our plane, a bunch of more operators, and
Speaker 3: there's one person that hangs out in the back of
Speaker 3: the plane and they fix the equipment when it breaks.
Speaker 2: When you say operator, I feel like we might be
Speaker 2: using this term in different scope.
Speaker 3: We are using this term differently because I think when
Speaker 3: you think operator, you think somebody that's like shooting guns.
Speaker 2: When I think operator, I think of a Tier one
Speaker 2: guy who's got blacked out name tapes that's doing some
Speaker 2: gangster shit nobody can talk about.
Speaker 5: They were literally operating equipment.
Speaker 2: Okay, so like a computer or a radio operator correct,
Speaker 2: got you okay, continue your camera?
Speaker 3: Yeah, or other things. So yeah, so they would do
Speaker 3: they would operate the equipment, and I would sit in
Speaker 3: the back of the plane and I just wait. My
Speaker 3: whole job in flight technician. I just sit in the
Speaker 3: back and I wait and wait sleep. I made food
Speaker 3: for people, and.
Speaker 6: You weren't nosy, man, I would be.
Speaker 5: I was bored out of my mind.
Speaker 3: I took a lot of naps, but.
Speaker 1: I would justly were enlisted, yes, everything.
Speaker 3: Because I would just like wait until somebody broke something,
Speaker 3: and then I would get up and I would go
Speaker 3: fix it, and I there what they were doing was
Speaker 3: really boring. So it wasn't like they were doing really
Speaker 3: anything that excit. And then if we were intercepted, then
Speaker 3: like I would take a picture.
Speaker 1: Did y'all get intercepted?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We also had a lot of a lot of fires
Speaker 3: on our flights, and so like my job was like
Speaker 3: a firefighter, so like I literally put out a fire,
Speaker 3: like a literal fire.
Speaker 1: Wait, who intercepted y'all? What country?
Speaker 4: She's like? I cannot talk about it, can you not?
Speaker 1: It's been long enough.
Speaker 3: Oh I have a ninety nine year d NDA. Hold on,
Speaker 3: let me see.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, okay, never mind, let me just see.
Speaker 5: Well, let me see if I can.
Speaker 3: If it's on the news, then I can tell you.
Speaker 2: Okay, see by s because we're talking about you in
Speaker 2: country or we're talking stateside.
Speaker 3: No, we were in country.
Speaker 2: Wait a fucking minute, Like there was no air assets
Speaker 2: that we're trying to intercept us.
Speaker 1: That would be a death sentence.
Speaker 4: There was a lot of hotel stuff going on in country,
Speaker 4: and I can say.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, we were intercepted by China. No all the time, constantly.
Speaker 5: A lot of the times.
Speaker 3: It made the news a lot of the times, it
Speaker 3: didn't most of the time. Actually most of the time
Speaker 3: it didn't. So our plane did go down in two
Speaker 3: thousand and one, like they we had a really unsafe
Speaker 3: interception where unsafe interception, they literally ran into our plane
Speaker 3: right and so we went down.
Speaker 1: They come a cazi too, usually turned shooting.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: So they they basically like we were flying and they
Speaker 3: would come up like right next to us and just
Speaker 3: like watch us and like see what we were doing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And we can literally like look out the window and
Speaker 3: just be like yeah.
Speaker 5: And so we in two thousand and.
Speaker 3: One, our plane got hit by a Chinese plane and
Speaker 3: so we had we were forced to land in China
Speaker 3: like on uh like on an island. I think it
Speaker 3: was in the south of China Sea. And so they
Speaker 3: kept our people for eleven days and then eventually like
Speaker 3: send them back. But you know who came to get
Speaker 3: our plane, Russia because we didn't trust China to do it,
Speaker 3: so they trusted Russia to come get the plane. Well,
Speaker 3: because everything's top secret, they were supposed to destroy everything,
Speaker 3: but they didn't destroy it properly.
Speaker 4: Right, So I give me my next question about destruction.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we actually after that, we they created this
Speaker 3: whole like process and we did like drills of like
Speaker 3: how to destroy things properly in case this happens again.
Speaker 3: But we would often get intercepted. There's one actually that
Speaker 3: I was on the plane. I pulled it up.
Speaker 1: What kind of platform were you on? EP three's okay,
Speaker 1: so that's a reconnaissance plank.
Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, so I can show you this. I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure I was on the flight. No, this is twenty seventeen,
Speaker 3: so I was. Yeah, I think I was on this plane.
Speaker 1: Holy shit.
Speaker 4: So when it comes to the destruction of things like
Speaker 4: I had this, So being a calm person, we have
Speaker 4: we have stuff that we have to destroy too. Yeah, sure, screen,
Speaker 4: please go for it, Go ahead and share the screen.
Speaker 3: Hold on, let me pull it back up.
Speaker 4: So we carried in scenerariyoga needs.
Speaker 5: We did not because we were in the flight.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, we had like axes that would stay with
Speaker 4: me at all times.
Speaker 2: You had axes that they told to destroy everything, just
Speaker 2: fucking hack at it literally.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So like if if we came to a point
Speaker 4: where and I only know one person that did this,
Speaker 4: but if we came to the point where we were
Speaker 4: completely surrounded and we were going to end up needing
Speaker 4: to destroy all the cryptic the keys, then we had
Speaker 4: to use the SANERU needs to destroy them. And I
Speaker 4: only know one person that actually did this, and it
Speaker 4: was a situation that he shouldn't have destroyed everything. I
Speaker 4: will say that judgment. I will understand. I do understand
Speaker 4: why he did this. I was actually aiding and trying
Speaker 4: to get him aid to him. But I understand why
Speaker 4: he did this. It wasn't with my unit. It was
Speaker 4: with a grunt unit. And this sounds very so I understand,
Speaker 4: like why and the whole thing, and like because you
Speaker 4: don't want them to get a hold of any of
Speaker 4: this stuff.
Speaker 6: And so as of your job, you carry a.
Speaker 4: Couple grenades with you, and what you're supposed to do
Speaker 4: is you're supposed to pile it all together while everyone
Speaker 4: else is defending the last bit of whatever, you know,
Speaker 4: whoever's still standing, and your job is to blow that
Speaker 4: shit sky high as fast as possible. If you understand that,
Speaker 4: you're like, no one's going to come out of this alive.
Speaker 4: So that is that is the goal in keeping you.
Speaker 6: Know, all of that stuff.
Speaker 4: And so he made a decision, and that decision got
Speaker 4: really heavily frowned upon. But to be honest with you,
Speaker 4: the way that he what was happening, I understand why
Speaker 4: he did this. He put everybody's lives at risk, but
Speaker 4: you know, it was a little bit preemptive. So that
Speaker 4: was always a thing that I thought about because I
Speaker 4: knew other people that had been in serious firefights that
Speaker 4: like my ex for example, was one of them. And
Speaker 4: he had to decide if they were going to destroy
Speaker 4: the this or not, because that's the lifeline. Your palm
Speaker 4: is your lifeline. And he's like, I guess I'll just
Speaker 4: hold the grenade to me if if it really comes
Speaker 4: to it, I'll have to have He put everything in
Speaker 4: his pockets, and he was pretty much like if this
Speaker 4: goes down, and like, this is what I'm gonna make
Speaker 4: the decision. So it's a weird thing to have that much,
Speaker 4: to like, have that much entrusted.
Speaker 6: In you to make sure that no one else gets
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Biden made us pull out of Afghanistan. We left
Speaker 2: everything for the Talban.
Speaker 4: In China after everything all of us went through.
Speaker 1: Yes, that tells you how much.
Speaker 2: So this is Chinese ja tins intercept the US EP
Speaker 2: three and unsafe maneuver.
Speaker 6: So this was you, So this is your plane you're chillin'.
Speaker 1: On an't hit y'all?
Speaker 3: Well, in this case, they didn't actually hit us, and
Speaker 3: they didn't get that close.
Speaker 5: I don't know why they.
Speaker 3: Even reported on this.
Speaker 1: Okay, what the fuck?
Speaker 3: But we got intercepted almost every day.
Speaker 4: Wow, I know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: And tell people that were what it says triggered the
Speaker 3: plane to take evasive maneuvers.
Speaker 1: Oh, I feel like that prop plane can't do much
Speaker 1: evasive maneuvers like the dramatic. Okay, y were trying to
Speaker 1: a corkscrew, bro, what are we talking about here?
Speaker 3: No, they were being they.
Speaker 5: I think they don't understand. I understand what this plane
Speaker 5: can do.
Speaker 2: So yeah, a fat plane to a really cool maneuver.
Speaker 2: That was with the Blue Angels. So they got a
Speaker 2: big bertha, which.
Speaker 1: Is like.
Speaker 2: That bitch can actually do a barrel roll and actually
Speaker 2: cut a back flip, but they've also got it rigged
Speaker 2: up a certain way to do that. That's that air
Speaker 2: flame is not supposed to be able to do that.
Speaker 2: So then we're looking at this like base of maneuvers.
Speaker 4: That so you're supposed to just hackshit apart if you
Speaker 4: got intercepted.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no, So we got intercepted all the time.
Speaker 3: Okay, so we're not like up there just destroying top
Speaker 3: secret drives every day.
Speaker 4: Because I mean, if you got downed, I guess.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so if we went down, Yeah, if we
Speaker 3: went down, then we would start destroying things.
Speaker 1: And they're all so different and we all serve right
Speaker 1: around the same time from each other. That's incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I I I actually don't think I was
Speaker 3: in Japan at this point.
Speaker 1: I was your husband was on that plane with you.
Speaker 3: No, I was in Japan. I'm trying to think. I
Speaker 3: was in Bahrain in twenty fifteen, and then I was
Speaker 3: in Greece in twenty sixteen to twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: I've heard wild shit about Bahrain.
Speaker 3: And I was back in Bahrain. So I must have
Speaker 3: been in Japan in twenty sixteen, not twenty seventeen.
Speaker 4: Damn, that's crazy. Anyway, it's an interesting experience. I would
Speaker 4: be the nosiest human on that plane. I need I
Speaker 4: think that's happening and why we're doing all of this,
Speaker 4: and I needed to know, like I would be like, so,
Speaker 4: who do I talk to next?
Speaker 3: That's what I So. The problem is like I know,
Speaker 3: I know things I know, like like surface level things.
Speaker 5: Because like I had to know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you have an very you have an NDA
Speaker 4: on you.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so in ninety nine years, you can call
Speaker 3: me up and I can talk about it.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, No.
Speaker 3: They actually just sunned down to the EP three in
Speaker 3: the Navy. They replaced them with drones. All the drones
Speaker 3: can't do with the EP three, but the airframes were
Speaker 3: so old they're like we have to like we have
Speaker 3: to be done with these airframes.
Speaker 2: So as far as in Diegoes though, my brother in
Speaker 2: law was a seal and he only went on one
Speaker 2: mission and he came back with a really garmly throat
Speaker 2: score and he's told me like three different bullshit stories
Speaker 2: as far as how he got and I'm like, listen, brother,
Speaker 2: I know you can't tell me for another thirty seven years,
Speaker 2: but don't worry when that time comes me and you
Speaker 2: were going to have some beers and we're going to
Speaker 2: have a story telling thirty seven years, I am counting down.
Speaker 1: Maybe possibly, I don't know. Anyway.
Speaker 4: What I did find about interesting though, as the military
Speaker 4: contractors that were there, that were a lot of them
Speaker 4: were retired military or like veterans and stuff, and they
Speaker 4: would come in and I got to know quite a
Speaker 4: few of them in different sectors, and especially like the
Speaker 4: mercenary groups that were there too. They were interesting humans.
Speaker 4: And I will say, though, my life was saved by
Speaker 4: one of them, so grateful should I.
Speaker 1: Knew a diesel mechanic who was an army diesel mechanic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he served out his term, went back as a contractor
Speaker 1: for Haliburt and doing the exact same diesel work on
Speaker 1: the exact same base, making.
Speaker 2: Triple the money, and he got to grow a beard
Speaker 2: and smoke weed. And I'm just like God, damn.
Speaker 4: So I was supposed to go back to Afghanistan after
Speaker 4: I got out as a contractor because I spent literally
Speaker 4: my one entire deployment learning everything I could. When it
Speaker 4: came to Blue Force Trackers, which is the little computer
Speaker 4: screens that we have in all of our.
Speaker 6: Vehicles and stuff.
Speaker 4: And I realistically spent every waking extra moment I was
Speaker 4: and I wasn't working at the CEC or I wasn't
Speaker 4: doing anything like that because I really didn't go on
Speaker 4: a bunch of deployment like out of the wire a bunch.
Speaker 6: In my first term.
Speaker 4: I was more or less in the cuc A lot
Speaker 4: and then was helping aid different groups and we did
Speaker 4: like a lot of stuff with like the Army and
Speaker 4: the Navy and things like that, and working with Watch
Speaker 4: you might call it. They just went out my head.
Speaker 4: But we worked with We worked with a lot of
Speaker 4: different overseas groups too, like about communications and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: trading equipment and doing different stuff and repairing things. So
Speaker 4: I spent all my time really trying to learn from
Speaker 4: the contractors, because the contractors knew everything.
Speaker 3: They knew how.
Speaker 4: To do every freaking thing, and no one knew really
Speaker 4: in our in our unit or a battalion, how to
Speaker 4: do this. And so yeah, I spent a lot of
Speaker 4: time doing that. Well, what I didn't realize is how
Speaker 4: valuable I made myself for the next deployment, because then
Speaker 4: everyone's like, now you got to teach us. So then
Speaker 4: I had to like really try to teach everybody as
Speaker 4: much as I could, because it, I mean, it was
Speaker 4: a fantastic tool. You could show where you could pinpoint
Speaker 4: where IDs were. It's so pretty much like think of
Speaker 4: it as a GPS with like extra fun stuff to
Speaker 4: put down. So like you could put pinpoint where IED's
Speaker 4: where somebody had just blown up.
Speaker 1: How accurate was it though, we're talking about very accurate twelve.
Speaker 4: Digit It was very accurate, so ours so the satellite,
Speaker 4: So we had different GPS things that are that were tracking,
Speaker 4: and they got more, they got better advanced, so they
Speaker 4: were able to connect and actually give.
Speaker 6: Really pretty accurate grids.
Speaker 4: And so while it tracked your vehicles, you could see
Speaker 4: a little vehicle path and cool and.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so you could lay different stuff down.
Speaker 4: You could see where other people were in firefights, you
Speaker 4: could see where other people were taking fire, you could
Speaker 4: see where other people were had just blown up. You
Speaker 4: could see nine lines happening, which is metavacs people coming
Speaker 4: in and rescuing other people. If people were able to
Speaker 4: drop those things. So that's a big thing too. Is
Speaker 4: a lot of people had to actually input the data
Speaker 4: to be able to see the data, so.
Speaker 6: When a lot of people didn't understand how to use them.
Speaker 4: They're using this as a strategic tool to communicate with
Speaker 4: the COC and to be able to communicate with other
Speaker 4: people in the AO. So that way we're not, you know,
Speaker 4: taking friendly fire, we're not. We're aiding each other in
Speaker 4: need and things like that, and so the whole concept
Speaker 4: behind Blue Force Tracker is actually pretty cool. It would
Speaker 4: have been nice if it was faster moving. Sometimes they
Speaker 4: would move really good, sometimes they would move slower. But
Speaker 4: I was supposed to go back. I had actually secured
Speaker 4: my spot and everything. Me being dumb, got out of
Speaker 4: the Marine Corps, fell in love all those stupid things,
Speaker 4: so I.
Speaker 3: Love to get it every time.
Speaker 6: So I didn't.
Speaker 4: So I didn't go back because I was gonna do
Speaker 4: I was gonna do a one year there, and I
Speaker 4: was gonna walk away with like five hundred K. And like,
Speaker 4: because I had I had made myself really valuable, because
Speaker 4: I had learned they were retiring some of the people
Speaker 4: they couldn't keep coming back, and so I learned how
Speaker 4: to like input them. I learned all the systems I learned,
Speaker 4: like how to do all the upgrades all that stuff,
Speaker 4: so I don't know, I know they don't use them now,
Speaker 4: but it's one of those things I was. But I've
Speaker 4: always been one of those people that have obsessed with
Speaker 4: learning everything and like knowledge, and so I wanted to
Speaker 4: learn as much as possible to have.
Speaker 3: Some pretty so gnarly thing happened to me like at
Speaker 3: the beginning of my time in and so like it
Speaker 3: kind of cast a shadow over the rest of my
Speaker 3: time in. And then eventually they were like, m you're pretty broken,
Speaker 3: and I was like I'm fine, and they're like, we're
Speaker 3: gonna medically retire you. Oh though they're like you just
Speaker 3: I want.
Speaker 4: To be medically retired.
Speaker 3: Fuck you, pack your sh up and get out of here.
Speaker 6: I would have been pumped medically retired.
Speaker 3: No, I was pissed. I was so angry because, like
Speaker 3: in my mind, I was like, you guys broke me,
Speaker 3: or you allowed this to happen, you did nothing about it,
Speaker 3: you kind have fixed it, like I don't know at
Speaker 3: any point you chose not to. So now you're telling
Speaker 3: me that I'm broken and I'm not worth anything when
Speaker 3: really like you did this, so I was really really
Speaker 3: angry about it.
Speaker 2: That's a military though, I was, as we're talking about
Speaker 2: how different or experiences that is not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I'm happy about it now, right, Like obviously
Speaker 3: I have like health care for my kids and we're
Speaker 3: about space a over Italy and like we're gonna do
Speaker 3: some things. But like.
Speaker 5: At the time, I was pretty angry.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there is a lot of interesting experiences. A
Speaker 4: lot of people have experienced different things in the military,
Speaker 4: and especially being females in the military, we experienced different
Speaker 4: things in males, but I've had males that I know
Speaker 4: that have experienced all sorts of things too.
Speaker 6: So it is an interest seeing a social experiment.
Speaker 1: That is a good way to say it.
Speaker 2: It is a wild, wild social experiment.
Speaker 3: Well, we learned, you know what we learned something?
Speaker 4: What it was, I learned a lot of interesting things,
Speaker 4: I will I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure what I learned.
Speaker 3: But something.
Speaker 2: I learned a lot of things for sure, mostly about
Speaker 2: myself and how I'm I'm fucking weird and that's okay.
Speaker 1: I'm good with that. You know.
Speaker 4: I can suffer immensely, Yeah, especially if I have one
Speaker 4: other person with me. That's suffering. Yeah, I can pretty
Speaker 4: much endure almost anything. I'm realistic.
Speaker 3: That's what we're like, Oh, we can do anything for
Speaker 3: this amount of time, but the amount of time changes too.
Speaker 3: Like at first we're like, oh, we can do anything
Speaker 3: for an hour, right, Like you can do anything for
Speaker 3: an hour, and then like sometimes we're like, ah, we
Speaker 3: could do anything for like a year, right, do anything
Speaker 3: for a year.
Speaker 4: That's it, and then like the very yeah, I know,
Speaker 4: everyone's like I guess, but then I mean you learn though.
Speaker 5: It depends on the thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it depends on the thing. I mean like that's
Speaker 4: actually like, so that's a common thing, and is you
Speaker 4: can do this for one minute. When you're talking about
Speaker 4: natural birth and stuff, you can do this for a
Speaker 4: one minute. You just tell yourself, I can do this
Speaker 4: for one minute, and it's just one minute at a time.
Speaker 4: That's so there was a common thing. I met somebody
Speaker 4: that had experienced a lot of unfortunate things that happened
Speaker 4: to this person, and the big thing that they told
Speaker 4: me was just if you're when you find yourself in
Speaker 4: times were like it's unbearable, you just think chow to chow.
Speaker 4: And that's literally what I did at times when I
Speaker 4: was having unfortunate experiences, was I would just do chow
Speaker 4: to chow, breakfast, chow, lunch, chow jenn chow, go to bed,
Speaker 4: and then like repeat it. And that's literally what I
Speaker 4: did sometimes just to I guess, check out of what
Speaker 4: was going on around me.
Speaker 1: So I learned a lot about what my body could
Speaker 1: endure as far as like heat and like what mental
Speaker 1: exhaustion versus what physical exhaustion feels like versus like Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hot, I'm sweaty, I'm miserable, Okay, I am now.
Speaker 2: A little bit more than regular thirsty. Okay, I've stopped sweating. Okay,
Speaker 2: So like now we need to do this, Like these
Speaker 2: are things that a person doesn't learn about themselves because
Speaker 2: every person is different as far as it goes, very
Speaker 2: very case by case. But unless you've ever learned and
Speaker 2: experienced these things and been pushed to that point, you
Speaker 2: have no idea what that feels like. And these are
Speaker 2: also experience as far as how cold I could get
Speaker 2: before I like, actually, now I am the world's biggest
Speaker 2: bitch in the world when it comes to being cold,
Speaker 2: Like if it's oh no, if it's under sixty degrees.
Speaker 1: I'm fucking pissed. Why are we even living here? Like
Speaker 1: that's how I feel.
Speaker 4: The most baby I've ever met in my life. But
Speaker 4: I will say the desert is like one of the
Speaker 4: coldest places I've ever been in my life.
Speaker 1: So sucks, but I have learned I can endure it.
Speaker 2: If I have to, I will bitch the entire time, Like,
Speaker 2: oh yes, I'll be the loudest.
Speaker 4: You get an associate's degree in bitching though, from the military,
Speaker 4: you do. Every single one of us are expert bitchers.
Speaker 2: They always said if Marines aren't bitching, then something's wrong.
Speaker 2: And it's like, that's a good thing, dude, Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5: This morning we were out.
Speaker 3: I was at this workout class and she's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's only two minutes.
Speaker 5: You just don't have to quit.
Speaker 3: It's just two minutes. I was like, well, if there's
Speaker 3: anything I'm good at, it's not quitting. Let's fucking go.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I was like, that's the only thing I
Speaker 3: got going for me, is like I just I'll keep
Speaker 3: doing it. Yeah, Like I'll bang my head against the
Speaker 3: wall until there's a hole in it. I don't.
Speaker 4: It's no gitude though, that you don't realize that, you
Speaker 4: don't realize how well you can suffer. Right, let me
Speaker 4: say that, you know, you don't get that until you
Speaker 4: get and put in positions. And I will say though,
Speaker 4: that when you are suffering with somebody else, that is
Speaker 4: the key component. When you're isolated, it's much harder to
Speaker 4: withstand a lot of things. And I think that's a
Speaker 4: really there's a lot of social experiment things that I
Speaker 4: learned from the military. When I'm looking back being an anthropologist,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, man, it's really true though, Like if
Speaker 4: I have just one single person next to me and
Speaker 4: we're enduring it together, it's your different characteristics happen. So
Speaker 4: for me personally, I'm one of those people that I
Speaker 4: was like, I'm gonna make light of the situation. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna bitch, but I'm gonna joke about the whole time,
Speaker 4: laugh like I'm gonna keep laughing, Like I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: let's just keep on trucking on. And then there's other
Speaker 4: people that get really quiet, are the people that get angry,
Speaker 4: and all these different personalities, though somehow meld together and
Speaker 4: are able to accomplish a goal when needed. And it's
Speaker 4: it's a really I miss parts of the military. I
Speaker 4: miss the camaraderie with certain people. I miss certain things
Speaker 4: about like being able to you know, you have people
Speaker 4: around you all the time. You have friends. You develop
Speaker 4: friendships that are really strong. Like I'm friends with some
Speaker 4: of my friends still to this day. I have a
Speaker 4: group of them. We're all comrines. I have even other
Speaker 4: people that were in my battalion. We're all still friends.
Speaker 4: I don't think we're I think we'll probably die as friends.
Speaker 4: Like that's not gonna go away. And it's it's an
Speaker 4: interesting trauma. Bonding is a very strong thing that happens.
Speaker 4: I'll say that.
Speaker 3: So unlike veterans, like we're quick to be like, oh
Speaker 3: you were a vet. Cool, Let's like we got this,
Speaker 3: Like we had three different experiences, but you put us
Speaker 3: in a shitty situation right now, we're going to figure
Speaker 3: it out. Oh yeah yeah, and like so we got it.
Speaker 3: You're just talking about this on the Cage to Night.
Speaker 1: So the Space.
Speaker 6: Force, right, I want to join the Space Force.
Speaker 1: Same seven but hold on now.
Speaker 2: The first recruits were taken in like the first actual
Speaker 2: boot class was in twenty twenty. It was found in
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen a lot of the Air Force's Space Force crossovers.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty was the first actual boot camp class of graduates.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine real shit here twenty forty there is
Speaker 2: going to be some American Legion Hall somewhere where this
Speaker 2: dude is a retired Space Force guardian can't and they're
Speaker 2: going to be having these conversations. There's all these other
Speaker 2: pody and which is so fucking badass, but whatever.
Speaker 4: He is Space Force guardian, Like I could do you come, like,
Speaker 4: let me chat with.
Speaker 2: Some of But so does everybody because they've already met
Speaker 2: their recruitment numbers for the year. It's February and they've
Speaker 2: already hit one hundred and twenty five percent of what
Speaker 2: they were allotted for for the year.
Speaker 4: And it's like, you know what, I'm not.
Speaker 5: The Air Force is like, dang it, now, not everybody
Speaker 5: wants to be a part of us.
Speaker 4: Anymore, you know what would apply?
Speaker 3: And the Army is like, welcome to the club, come
Speaker 3: on just doing it.
Speaker 2: I would never but like, can you imagine what that
Speaker 2: vf W Hall or with that American Legion Hall or
Speaker 2: even that Veterans Day that that I would love?
Speaker 4: So there I was fucking this UFO just chatting me up,
Speaker 4: like we.
Speaker 2: Already have coast guardies that are like, look, my uncle
Speaker 2: is a coast guard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, oh, come on, Navy, you can't do that, yo.
Speaker 4: We are coast are not coasy swim like, motherfucker they
Speaker 4: gotta have.
Speaker 1: I not gonna okay, I don't want.
Speaker 3: To brag, but like I had to swim a mile
Speaker 3: just to pass Air Crew Candidate school to become an
Speaker 3: air crewman. And that was only one of the multiple
Speaker 3: things that I had to do.
Speaker 5: The helo dunker I had to do.
Speaker 1: Nope, that's why it.
Speaker 5: Was not that bad.
Speaker 1: I got boys that do it to do off George Rills.
Speaker 4: They tried to get me to do it four separate times.
Speaker 4: They put me on the list, and I somehow shwindled
Speaker 4: my way out of doing this.
Speaker 3: You didn't even try.
Speaker 5: You know how slow it is.
Speaker 3: Now you're getting there, you strap up, and you're like,
Speaker 3: here we go.
Speaker 4: I'm terrified of water, though, like I I almost drowned
Speaker 4: as a kid, and like, well I pretty much did drown.
Speaker 1: I guess, how did you do boot camp with the
Speaker 1: swim call? Did you get the very bare minimum?
Speaker 4: So I'm actually really good at swimming. The high dive though,
Speaker 4: I'm let me, let me just I'm gonna admit some
Speaker 4: truce here.
Speaker 1: So this person here, it's.
Speaker 6: Ten feet she spartan kicked me off of it, like
Speaker 6: good threw me off.
Speaker 1: She cared about you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no she did. She's like, you're passing today.
Speaker 4: Well, they knew I knew I could swim, so they
Speaker 4: knew I could swim because I helped some of the
Speaker 4: other people that actually didn't know how to swim. I
Speaker 4: was showing them how to swim, so they knew I
Speaker 4: could swim. But I was like, there's no way I quit.
Speaker 4: I'm not doing the high dive. And she's like, they
Speaker 4: put me up there, and I was like, nope, I'm
Speaker 4: not doing the high dive, like I'm terrified, terrified of water.
Speaker 4: And so when it came to the helicopter the helo,
Speaker 4: I was like, no, nope, I don't I don't need it.
Speaker 4: I'm good, and they're like, everyone wants to do this.
Speaker 4: I was like, everyone else can have my spot. I'm
Speaker 4: really great, Like I'm super good. You can do anybody else,
Speaker 4: So like literally everybody but me, and I was so
Speaker 4: I'm so against it. But I also I was supposed
Speaker 4: to be able to jump out of planes and we
Speaker 4: had like two people that got selected, and I was
Speaker 4: trying so hard to be one of the selected ones.
Speaker 1: You hate like heights though.
Speaker 4: I'm okay with it, but I really wanted them wings
Speaker 4: on my uniform. Like I was determined.
Speaker 3: I was like, I want gold wings.
Speaker 1: Gold wings. Oh yeah you got did you get to
Speaker 1: jump something like that? Was it? Or you actually did
Speaker 1: more than twenty Oh?
Speaker 3: I didn't have to jump out an airplane? Wait?
Speaker 4: What? Oh?
Speaker 1: You got crew wings? We're talking about the little wings
Speaker 1: with a little with.
Speaker 3: A little No I have. I have golden wings that
Speaker 3: I wear every single uniform because they're golden and I
Speaker 3: earned them.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, do they have a parachute or
Speaker 2: does say they say ac okay yeah aircrew.
Speaker 3: I'm not yeah, She's like, no, no, no, I have wings.
Speaker 3: You did not specify because I really want wings.
Speaker 4: I did not. I did not spetisfy. Sorry. I wanted
Speaker 4: the little parachute with the little.
Speaker 3: Yea on side.
Speaker 2: Which in the Marines, I had a buddy who he
Speaker 2: was a wing side who went grunt and we were
Speaker 2: at SI with him. He got there as like a
Speaker 2: sergeant and he had wings and all of our our
Speaker 2: instructors are like, wait, do you already know like where
Speaker 2: you're going. He's like, yeah, no, I've already met my
Speaker 2: squad leader, I've already met my platoon sergeant ship. I'm
Speaker 2: just here to get this out of the way. And
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, all right, nobody fucked with him. First off,
Speaker 2: he solid guys.
Speaker 6: It's like the higherarchy.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 6: When you see that, either're like special.
Speaker 2: It was basically sergeants helping a buddy of theirs learn
Speaker 2: how to break apart the two forty. It wasn't like
Speaker 2: them drilling us to be able to like disinass the
Speaker 2: two forty and under forty five seconds or you're getting
Speaker 2: your ship wrecked tonight.
Speaker 1: Kid.
Speaker 2: It was like him, It's like, oh, look, here's how
Speaker 2: you do this. About by, it's like, se y'all can
Speaker 2: be decent guys. Y'all just choosing to be dickheads to us,
Speaker 2: And they're like, yeah, boot, because that's our job.
Speaker 1: And it's like all right, gotcha.
Speaker 3: So Taylor has recently rejoined the the UH reserves. Wow,
Speaker 3: I was gonna say retired, No, he reserves. So then
Speaker 3: he went to a C one thirty squadron, which he
Speaker 3: already has his wings because he did seven years, right,
Speaker 3: and so he goes and they're like you have your
Speaker 3: wings and he's like yeah, but most people are not.
Speaker 7: They're not.
Speaker 3: Like active reserves, they're just reserve. Just most of them
Speaker 3: are just reserves. So most of them don't even have
Speaker 3: like they don't even have any hours. And Tailor's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I have almost three thousand hours and they're like what yeah,
Speaker 3: so they just like uh yeah, and they gun decked
Speaker 3: his PQUS and Taylor's like, I actually don't know how
Speaker 3: to do any of this stuff because I've never been
Speaker 3: on a C one thirty before. Like, I'm not a
Speaker 3: load master. I'm an operator an EP three. He's like,
Speaker 3: these aren't even like compatible jobs. He's like, I have
Speaker 3: no idea what I'm doing. The gun decked my PQUS.
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't even know what to do.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's what they do, like gave me the balls.
Speaker 4: If I went back, well, I can't go back now
Speaker 4: because I'm too old technically, but if I was younger
Speaker 4: and I went back, I actually talked to my buddy
Speaker 4: that's the master guns and I was like, hey, so
Speaker 4: like what are they using now, like what kind of stuff?
Speaker 4: And he like gave me the rundown and I was like,
Speaker 4: So I went to Harry's radio website and I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm like googling it all and like watching videos.
Speaker 1: And I was like, who, all your shit's obsolete now?
Speaker 4: Oh, it's completely obsolete. So then I was like watching
Speaker 4: videos and I was like, I don't know why I'm
Speaker 4: feeling this desperate need to learn all of these things
Speaker 4: while I'm not in the military, but I'm also one
Speaker 4: of those people that like want to keep learning so
Speaker 4: it's done.
Speaker 6: I would try to you know what, I'm going to
Speaker 6: apply to the Space Force.
Speaker 1: I probably see you all of it's obsolete.
Speaker 4: Care I still want to see if I I probably
Speaker 4: won't get it.
Speaker 3: You know, the reserves has it still, you know what,
Speaker 3: fuck it. I'll try because the reserves is like twenty
Speaker 3: years now you have to run.
Speaker 1: Though, yeah, yeah, you have to and past your time.
Speaker 3: Oh but in the Navy they don't kick you out
Speaker 3: for pete failing anymore.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, wait, no, no hold on. They just had
Speaker 1: those six we just talked about this, those six fat
Speaker 1: body nuclear people who they the chief they're getting their
Speaker 1: ship wrecked right now because grants to listen, they're new
Speaker 1: clear chiefs and there's a very select feel and it
Speaker 1: really doesn't matter what you look like as long as
Speaker 1: you could do the job. But the fact that the
Speaker 1: Navy blasted their pictures barely stem.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was I know, but it was the big
Speaker 6: girl and the big dude they were, Yeah, okay, they.
Speaker 1: Were the morbidly obese of the morbidly obese.
Speaker 2: Yeah, granted, but it's like, if you're gonna put pictures
Speaker 2: of these people, is like, yay, congrats on making chief
Speaker 2: Maybe just do like the mug shot thing, not show
Speaker 2: that they could barely button their fucking blouse that day.
Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, all right, especially nukes, they
Speaker 3: won't kick out a nuke. I mean, even before they
Speaker 3: change the PFA standards, they're not kicking out a nuke.
Speaker 2: I mean, grant me, the Department of War a headset
Speaker 2: said that we are kicking out the fat bodies and
Speaker 2: all these things, and it's like, I like where your
Speaker 2: heads at.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not gonna happen, But I really like.
Speaker 5: The start as a chiefs, you start kicking out chiefs
Speaker 5: and we'll talk.
Speaker 4: I don't think I could do the run. The run
Speaker 4: is where they would get me.
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
Speaker 4: That's the thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's always been my thing too. I could do
Speaker 3: the push ups and the sit ups and the menu.
Speaker 3: You although they don't do sit ups anymore now they
Speaker 3: do a plank. You guys had to do you guys
Speaker 3: had to do hull ups.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't do push ups.
Speaker 2: It was crunches, pull ups, and a three mile run
Speaker 2: and then for the combat finishtright.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing too. When head said this, you
Speaker 1: have CFT.
Speaker 3: I got this. I had to do a mile and
Speaker 3: a half. Yeah, and I had to do seventeen push
Speaker 3: ups and fifty sit ups.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I did Navy are Minimum school and that
Speaker 1: was bare minimum. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I ran the Navy PT test for all of high
Speaker 2: school and it was I'm thinking, like, it's only a
Speaker 2: mile and a half.
Speaker 5: And then I watched the Marines and I was like, suckers, No,
Speaker 5: But see, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: The PFT is one. We also do the CFT, which
Speaker 1: is way better.
Speaker 2: It's a mile sprint and it's in boots and utes though, right,
Speaker 2: so a half mile sprint maneuver under fire and AMMO
Speaker 2: can lifts.
Speaker 4: Fire carry you throw your grenade. You have to do that.
Speaker 4: AMMO can lifts. So like I excel when it comes
Speaker 4: to CFTs, I am, and I am. I will admit
Speaker 4: this anyone that serves, which I know a lot of
Speaker 4: my buddies are listening, so they already know this. I
Speaker 4: am not good at the PFT. I have never been
Speaker 4: good at the PFT.
Speaker 2: They're built for two different body styles. One is more
Speaker 2: for like endurance, and one is for like the short,
Speaker 2: fast kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Right, So like, let me tell you, you get a
Speaker 4: fire to carry somebody though, and that's a tough one.
Speaker 2: But I hate that shit. I got a long lives,
Speaker 2: but they're not thick. Fireman carrying is the bane of
Speaker 2: my existence. But like a three mile row, how far
Speaker 2: do you have to carry this person?
Speaker 1: A good bit one hundred yards.
Speaker 6: It's a good but you have to do it as
Speaker 6: fast as possible.
Speaker 1: You're sprinting, Yeah.
Speaker 4: You're sprinting while carrying somebody. They have to be They
Speaker 4: had to be at least proportional to you as.
Speaker 5: Much as possible.
Speaker 4: So I always had dudes because I'm five ten, five eleven. Well,
Speaker 4: I was almost five. I was five eleven, but now
Speaker 4: I shrunk a little bit, so I'm like five.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it was never by size. I waited a
Speaker 2: buck sixty, So guess who else is a buck sixty?
Speaker 2: Short stocky homies, So I would throw them on my
Speaker 2: back like a fucking.
Speaker 6: Lamb lot to be bastard. I always had to do
Speaker 6: all the boys.
Speaker 4: So like the other girls, they were a lot smaller
Speaker 4: than me, they always did the girls paired up. I
Speaker 4: would always end up with a boy which was whatever
Speaker 4: and so like, But I excel because I have leg
Speaker 4: strength for days, and so I could do this great.
Speaker 4: I could do one hundred ammocan lifts. Sure you're burning
Speaker 4: your shit out, but like.
Speaker 2: Whatever thirty pound ammo can Yeah, like okay, cool I
Speaker 2: gotta do.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: You gotta throw a grenade, get it where it needs
Speaker 4: to go. Cool, cool, cool, awesome. Man, you throw me
Speaker 4: though on a three mile run?
Speaker 3: Like, why that sounds miserable?
Speaker 1: It is because the marine thing is miserable. But the
Speaker 1: Marine Corps goes out of their way to make things
Speaker 1: as miserable as humanly because it must be.
Speaker 2: We we simply must and marines, well, it's it's the
Speaker 2: way we're built though, like we we are.
Speaker 3: Are you a built like that? Were you like I'm
Speaker 3: gonna join the Marines because I'm built like a fucking truck.
Speaker 4: No, like how I joined the Marine Corps. No, No,
Speaker 4: he knew what he wanted.
Speaker 3: I told my dad, I said I'm gonna join. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna join the Air Force. And he's like, that's fine.
Speaker 3: You can join the Air Force, you can join the Navy.
Speaker 3: You will not join the Army or the Marines. And
Speaker 3: I said Roger that, Dad, I don't even want to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want that for my children to if you
Speaker 1: do join, we're going space force or none of it.
Speaker 4: I couldn't make it.
Speaker 2: And I was like, but I mean literally, the Marine
Speaker 2: Corps is chosen to get shipped on NonStop.
Speaker 1: And there's a reason. It's like that fighting pit bull, right.
Speaker 2: You keep them chained up, you keep them cold and
Speaker 2: barely fed and miserable, just so that whenever you do
Speaker 2: have to let him off the chain, he does despicable
Speaker 2: things and then you bring him back home and give
Speaker 2: him a boat.
Speaker 4: I think we're fantastic. I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I think sure, But like the Army gets treated different
Speaker 2: the Air Force gets treated like they're human beings, you know,
Speaker 2: Is it true?
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess you would know better than me. Is
Speaker 3: it true they get hazard pay for being on the
Speaker 3: same base as marines.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's not hazard pay. It is unlivable conditions,
Speaker 2: unlivable conditions.
Speaker 5: Like the most bougie barracks.
Speaker 2: Yes, if they ever have to go to a Marine
Speaker 2: Corps bas in state like a school or something. Last
Speaker 2: I heard they still did. And it's because it's like
Speaker 2: sub living in.
Speaker 5: Pensacola.
Speaker 3: Right, So you have mostly Navy because it's a Navy
Speaker 3: a Navy air station, but then you also have Air
Speaker 3: Force and you have Marines on the same base.
Speaker 5: I don't know, and the Air Force, the Air Force
Speaker 5: was getting hazard pay.
Speaker 3: They wouldn't talk to any of us. Of course, they're
Speaker 3: getting hazard pay on that base even though it was
Speaker 3: a Navy base, because they're Marines also living on the base.
Speaker 4: That is violent, vile creatures.
Speaker 3: And you guys actually had to wear uniforms everywhere. You
Speaker 3: could not wear cities out in town because you guys
Speaker 3: had taken over the toys r US and held it
Speaker 3: hostage using NERF guns.
Speaker 1: There was that situation.
Speaker 4: What a wonderful time to be alive.
Speaker 1: I want to forget about.
Speaker 5: I was like, the Marines did what?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was right before I got there. The Marines
Speaker 3: they went in, they opened all the NERF guns and
Speaker 3: they held the like they held the toys. Are us hostage?
Speaker 2: And I was like, they were so drunk they probably
Speaker 2: don't remember it.
Speaker 1: I promise it.
Speaker 5: I was like baffled because I was like, how come
Speaker 5: the Marines never get to like.
Speaker 3: Downtown.
Speaker 2: When I was stationed in d C, we couldn't wear
Speaker 2: our uniforms in town. We had to wear khakium polo everywhere. Right,
Speaker 2: But every other branch has representation in and around Washington,
Speaker 2: d C. Right, They all have their little bases and
Speaker 2: their little ceremonial groups whatever. The Marines were the only
Speaker 2: fucking ones that were kicked off of every college in DC,
Speaker 2: of which there's eight.
Speaker 1: By the way, I was there.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I have no idea, but as there
Speaker 2: was there was a few bars throughout the city. Also,
Speaker 2: that's specifically Marines, which you look at at E three
Speaker 2: in the Army coming from Fort Meyer, and you look
Speaker 2: at it from the Marine Corps. The haircuts are the scene.
Speaker 2: But somehow they knew that who we were.
Speaker 4: Okay, it was a whole thing, I feel like because discrimination,
Speaker 4: thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we also cast some.
Speaker 3: Yeah I bet. But the Marines, you're smarter and you're strong.
Speaker 3: The Army they're dumb. But they're strong, but they're dumb.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Marines that I served with, I will say this,
Speaker 1: I met some of the most retarded human beings on
Speaker 1: the planet.
Speaker 2: Which I'm convinced you could say that about the military
Speaker 2: in general. Right, I'm convinced their mom and dad were
Speaker 2: brother and sister. But also I met some of the
Speaker 2: most intelligent, genius level human beings. All this in the infantry,
Speaker 2: I my add, it's very that's a very strange litmus test.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, some people.
Speaker 3: Joined they're like I'm going to infantry, though, Like some
Speaker 3: people are like die hard, like this is what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: One of our boys was a teacher, Like he actually
Speaker 1: had a bachelor's degree. He was a teacher in high school.
Speaker 1: And then he joins the Marine Corps and ends up
Speaker 1: in the infantry as an enlisted guy, and it's like, how.
Speaker 2: The fuck is Yeah, screw well. He started with the
Speaker 2: story that his like recruiter lied to him as they
Speaker 2: all do. But then he was like, look, i'ma be honest.
Speaker 2: I plan on going Mustang. I plan on going officer.
Speaker 2: But I believe that if you're going to lead people,
Speaker 2: you need to serve at the lower levels that you
Speaker 2: can understand what you're getting into and all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he only served one term. He got in.
Speaker 2: Was like, you know what, actually this is bullshit and
Speaker 2: I could go be a teacher and just make money
Speaker 2: and do my thing.
Speaker 3: So yeah, when I joined the Navy, I was like,
Speaker 3: I will join the Navy.
Speaker 5: That's fine.
Speaker 3: I don't ever want to go on a ship ever,
Speaker 3: and they were like.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, that was my big thing too. I never
Speaker 4: never saw it beyond a mew ooh, never to beyond
Speaker 4: a mew.
Speaker 3: We flew five hundred feet off of a ship one time,
Speaker 3: just to like look at it, like look through the windows.
Speaker 3: We're like, oh, there they are, and we waved and
Speaker 3: nobody cared and it was fine. But I did meet
Speaker 3: a marine who did eighteen months on a ship, and
Speaker 3: I was like, that sucks.
Speaker 4: So I have a So the Mews came in to
Speaker 4: Port in Oki a lot, and so like the news
Speaker 4: would come and man, you want to talk about chaos
Speaker 4: up in the island when the Mews came.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's because they get off. They're like, we're free.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, so like we had a so they would
Speaker 4: lock the BA down and that means that we would
Speaker 4: be stuck on I think the longest time was like
Speaker 4: one hundred and two days they locked us in so
Speaker 4: we could go base the base via the transport.
Speaker 5: And that was it and Kanawa mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are super locked down then, and so
Speaker 3: that's because.
Speaker 5: You guys kept raping the locals.
Speaker 3: We did not.
Speaker 4: The upper enlisted rape the locals, and then we suffered. Well,
Speaker 4: they got to live out in town and got to
Speaker 4: do whatever the fuck they still wanted. So like let's
Speaker 4: be really clear about who was actually raping locals was staff,
Speaker 4: sergeants and above. So they would fuck the rest of
Speaker 4: us and then we would suffer. And we had a
Speaker 4: liquor store on base, and we had an e club
Speaker 4: and like those man you want to talk about go
Speaker 4: through money, Like we did have like any rape cases.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of like hitting cops and shit
Speaker 2: and like you getting drunk and passed now in the
Speaker 2: Capitol building bushes.
Speaker 4: I did that once, So we had a situation where
Speaker 4: we had a staff sergeant like rape like three girls
Speaker 4: in a night raping spree and he.
Speaker 5: They kill him.
Speaker 3: Did they cut to dick Off?
Speaker 1: No, he probably got promoted.
Speaker 4: No, he got put in jail. So we had we
Speaker 4: had to break on our on our base in the
Speaker 4: back and stuff. But like they they locked a sin
Speaker 4: though to appease the Okinawan people. They locked a sin
Speaker 4: and that's why we were locked in for over one
Speaker 4: hundred days. And let me tell you, you went like
Speaker 4: insane because you could only go certain places and our
Speaker 4: bases are really small and like the people, I guess
Speaker 4: now Schwab. Somebody told me that Schwab, now one of
Speaker 4: the cult members has allows females. But Schwab is like
Speaker 4: a dectitude place, like this place is not where you
Speaker 4: want to go, and that's where they put only the
Speaker 4: males up top.
Speaker 1: Don't send their females. They're good God, you're asking for
Speaker 1: horrible shit to happen.
Speaker 4: Next, you know what was whatever? They have really good beaches,
Speaker 4: so then they would not worth it, so like they
Speaker 4: would be able to come down and stuff. But like
Speaker 4: it was a whole thing when it when I was
Speaker 4: in I know, it's changed a lot. A lot of
Speaker 4: my buddies have actually gone back or like even.
Speaker 3: In twenty sixteen when I was in Japan, I was
Speaker 3: in Okinawa and they were like, yeah, so the our
Speaker 3: base is open. I was on the Air Force base,
Speaker 3: like are yeah, They're like we're open. The other bases
Speaker 3: are open.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so something but there non open right, so like they.
Speaker 3: Had just gotten they just reopened, but they were like,
Speaker 3: we're open on restriction basically. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So then so like card, the gold cards were the
Speaker 4: golden tickets. They were allowed to go off. The red cards.
Speaker 4: We were we were fucking stuck and we had curfews
Speaker 4: and all this other.
Speaker 5: But the whole time I was on Kadina, I was
Speaker 5: good to go. I could go back and forth.
Speaker 4: Oh Yeahadina.
Speaker 5: I could go wherever I wanted to m hmm. And
Speaker 5: it was nice because it's huge.
Speaker 3: So like even if we were locked down, which we weren't,
Speaker 3: but like the crew before us had been locked down
Speaker 3: on Kadina.
Speaker 4: It's also Air Force base, so it was probably like
Speaker 4: really way nicer. It was way nice, and it's huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: The chili, Yeah, they have the chili's.
Speaker 4: I used to go there and get Snoopy Scooby snacks
Speaker 4: all the time, which is a shot. It's a type
Speaker 4: of shot. And oh yeah, no I miss I miss
Speaker 4: oak Chilis more than anything in the world.
Speaker 3: It was like there was something about there was something
Speaker 3: about that.
Speaker 4: Did you ever experience talk of rice and cheese? Did
Speaker 4: you ever go to Kintown outside of Camp Hansen?
Speaker 3: So the problem is I had to have a liberty
Speaker 3: buddy to go anywhere we all do, right, I could
Speaker 3: not procure myself a liberty buddy to go anywhere with me?
Speaker 1: What were you not?
Speaker 6: Were you not likable? A fantastic person?
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: Met so I everybody.
Speaker 3: Because I had claimed what I had claimed earlier and
Speaker 3: because I had done an unrestricted report, they basically they
Speaker 3: were like you cry. They're like, you're not You're not
Speaker 3: going to say that I did this. And I was like, well,
Speaker 3: I didn't want to say that it happened in the
Speaker 3: first place.
Speaker 5: You think I want to get to this again.
Speaker 3: But basically they're like, we're not gonna get caught dead
Speaker 3: with you. I understand, friends out when you try to
Speaker 3: do the right thing.
Speaker 4: They actually, so that's okay. My headmate tried to accuse
Speaker 4: me of orchestrating a gang rape when no one touched her.
Speaker 4: And if you're listening to this and you know who
Speaker 4: you are, I fucking hate your soul. But nothing happened.
Speaker 4: We had we got locked in for a typhoon. I
Speaker 4: threw a typhoon party, which was naturally Okay, let me
Speaker 4: just say this. Typhoon parties had been around for decades.
Speaker 4: It was something when I first got to island in
Speaker 4: two thousand and eight that was like a big thing
Speaker 4: that would happen. And I got ushered into the older
Speaker 4: groups that had already been there. They showed me, like
Speaker 4: the ropes, pretty much of what the traditions were. So
Speaker 4: I had been there for a long time at this
Speaker 4: point and not one person had thrown a toga party.
Speaker 1: Typhoon party.
Speaker 4: It's a tokea party, actually, but typhoon party. But it's
Speaker 4: it's a togus we all make we all make bed
Speaker 4: sheet togas and we make them out of whatever, and
Speaker 4: we all get drunk like.
Speaker 5: A frat house.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's a typhoon empty and all the decks are
Speaker 4: allowed to participate. And like so I always cooked breakfast
Speaker 4: for all the decks on like Sunday, most of the time,
Speaker 4: I'd wake up and I would cook a massive amount
Speaker 4: of food for a lot of the people and we
Speaker 4: would all just kind of share in this.
Speaker 6: It was just something to keep us all together. And
Speaker 6: so I threw this party and.
Speaker 4: We had a lot of us. We were all just
Speaker 4: we're hanging out. I mean, we were playing board games.
Speaker 4: We're not doing anything crazy, I guess, not music whatever.
Speaker 4: My headmate had been known to say a lot of
Speaker 4: interesting things about people, and apparently I got drug into
Speaker 4: the first Sargeant's office the following week and they.
Speaker 6: Were like, did you do this? And I was like, yes,
Speaker 6: I threw this party.
Speaker 4: Yes I did these things, and thankfully I didn't get
Speaker 4: in trouble. And he's like, well did you did anyone
Speaker 4: go over? And I was like no. I was like,
Speaker 4: in fact, I made sure that my head door, because
Speaker 4: we had two doors, Yeah, I made sure it was
Speaker 4: back in Jill. Yeah, I made sure it was locked
Speaker 4: the entire time, and like they had a knock to
Speaker 4: be able to come in, because I wanted to be
Speaker 4: ensured that I was the one to open it just
Speaker 4: in case anything.
Speaker 3: Period.
Speaker 4: Mine stayed locked the entire time. All the males knew
Speaker 4: just like we were very careful just in case, you know,
Speaker 4: of anything. And so I had to go in front
Speaker 4: of the first sergeant and I had to talk to
Speaker 4: all these people and they were like, you, we're gonna
Speaker 4: throw you in the brig, blah blah. And I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be really honest with you. I've been here
Speaker 4: almost four years and I threw this party because this
Speaker 4: is a tradition and this has been a tradition that
Speaker 4: was passed down to me and to other people. And
Speaker 4: though a lot of my friends already eas or like
Speaker 4: you know, or at least got off island or whatever,
Speaker 4: I was like, I felt like it was something like
Speaker 4: we didn't do anything. Nobody was harmed, there was no fistfights,
Speaker 4: nothing was broken, no property damage, like nothing happened. No
Speaker 4: one was called even do they didn't report a since
Speaker 4: so like were just like hanging out. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 4: so party not yet, So that was that's the whole thing.
Speaker 4: So like it was there's interesting times when like people
Speaker 4: do things that cause others to not be able to
Speaker 4: be taken seriously, and she in particular was one of those.
Speaker 4: And so I almost got in trouble for this quote.
Speaker 4: Un quote gang rape that didn't actually occur. No one
Speaker 4: touched her period and nothing happened, and her her roommate
Speaker 4: was there the entire time. And so it's an interesting
Speaker 4: situation when you have people in any setting, but especially
Speaker 4: the military, that say things that cause to discredit other
Speaker 4: people that have actually experienced trauma.
Speaker 6: So, yeah, that is a hot button trigger for myself
Speaker 6: in and of itself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't have anything like that. We had we
Speaker 1: had a captain.
Speaker 3: Uh, it's different for us.
Speaker 2: So we had a captain, she whose husband was a
Speaker 2: major and she was stationed at the Pentagon. He was stationed,
Speaker 2: i want to say, in North Carolina. Every time he
Speaker 2: would go in deployment, she would go on a fuck
Speaker 2: anything that moves spree. Her husband would get back from deployment,
Speaker 2: she would hand over the list of names of who
Speaker 2: she had betted, and then he would go out of
Speaker 2: his way to ruin their lives. This happened, Yeah, this
Speaker 2: happened like three times. She's on repeat to like multiple
Speaker 2: different marines.
Speaker 1: One of my buddies.
Speaker 2: Finally, because he was somebody who knew how to fight
Speaker 2: the good fight got it brought up good and long
Speaker 2: story short, the colonel at the time who we didn't
Speaker 2: have like a base general.
Speaker 1: We had a base colonel.
Speaker 2: And he was also one of the founding members of
Speaker 2: MARSK and he had no no see he I thought
Speaker 2: he was a solid guy. He knew what the score
Speaker 2: was and still tried to fuck my buddy over until
Speaker 2: he threatened to go public and publish this paper, which
Speaker 2: he ended up doing, and although it would have exonerated himself,
Speaker 2: it would have saved the colonel's career and he because
Speaker 2: of the way it all shook out, if he went down,
Speaker 2: the colonel was also going to go down because he
Speaker 2: knew what was happening and he turned a blind eye
Speaker 2: to it, or he could exonerate himself and also save
Speaker 2: the colonel's career. So he ended up keeping his mouth shut.
Speaker 2: Once he got out, he published the paper and now
Speaker 2: that colonel is not in anymore. So, like it was
Speaker 2: very very discussing situation.
Speaker 6: But that's a horrible thing to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, kick everybody out, put them all out. So you
Speaker 3: know I say that, But like I married somebody, like
Speaker 3: I met my husband and Navy.
Speaker 4: So Timmy Fair, my ex husband of like twelve years,
Speaker 4: was a Marine Corps. Yeah, in the Marine Corps two
Speaker 4: for a long time. So it's okay, it is what
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 2: So, Danielle, I don't know what you had planned on
Speaker 2: talking about this episode. I'm sure you had like a
Speaker 2: thing that you wanted to go on about, but here
Speaker 2: we are. We just we just made this a whole
Speaker 2: veteran you know what title.
Speaker 3: It just kind of fun.
Speaker 6: We're just gonna title it like vet.
Speaker 1: Bs veterans talking shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, indeed, that's what we did.
Speaker 3: But uh, I mean we talked about Epstein a little bit.
Speaker 4: We did for like five seconds.
Speaker 1: We did.
Speaker 3: We talked about other things.
Speaker 5: We hit on some conspiracy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was conspiratory. You know.
Speaker 4: I guess people will want to listen to our veteran.
Speaker 2: Bullshit, but like, you know, maybe although like those guys,
Speaker 2: I have been wanting to have you back on the
Speaker 2: show for a while, especially now that Raven Lee is
Speaker 2: the co host.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh God, these two are gonna fucking
Speaker 4: hit it off.
Speaker 3: So I've got some crazy things I'm about to come
Speaker 3: out with, So I'll have to come back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we'll have to schedule again for like another
Speaker 4: like in like two weeks. We'll have you back on.
Speaker 6: So we can actually talk conspiracies.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know if you don't want to listen
Speaker 4: to this episode because we're just talking bullshit about it, I.
Speaker 1: Feel like you'd be surprised. I feel like you'd be surprised.
Speaker 3: Actually, I think people are curious about our lives, Like
Speaker 3: we don't talk about our lives that often, so like
Speaker 3: this might be fun, no doubt.
Speaker 2: So for anybody who would like to see all of
Speaker 2: your content, hit you up on the socials or whatever,
Speaker 2: please give yourself all the shameless plugs.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you?
Speaker 5: I hate this part because I'm like, I don't even
Speaker 5: know where to find me.
Speaker 3: Just please, Yeah, I'm uh. So you can listen to
Speaker 3: my podcast anywhere you get podcasts, or if you want
Speaker 3: to watch.
Speaker 5: It, which is more boring, but some people like it.
Speaker 3: I don't. But you could do that on YouTube and
Speaker 3: rumble And I'm on Instagram and TikTok. Maybe not for long,
Speaker 3: but I'm on Instagram for sure at Rabbit dot Hole
Speaker 3: podcast and I will answer you if you send me
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Speaker 1: There we go, So thank you for coming on this episode. Danielle.
Speaker 2: We really are gonna have to have you back on
Speaker 2: I'm hoping like in the next month or two so
Speaker 2: we can like get into whatever the hell we were
Speaker 2: sp again.
Speaker 6: We'll do it in March.
Speaker 3: We'll try again.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll reach out to you, like this time. We're
Speaker 6: gonna be very serious.
Speaker 3: And like not talk about veter and shit, We're not
Speaker 3: gonna be very serious, but we'll talk about something.
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