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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven ninety. Holy crap, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know who the hell we think when we.

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<v Speaker 1>Are get off our show, idiot.

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<v Speaker 3>The kids are crying or trail off crying.

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<v Speaker 1>The countries are screwing it up. Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>gold Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 4>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Nick Coffee?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get it started here on another beautiful afternoon,

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<v Speaker 3>a Thursday edition of Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

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<v Speaker 3>right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. Thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>Wherever you are, however you're listening, whatever time of the

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<v Speaker 3>day it is. I mean it's three give me three

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<v Speaker 3>two one. It's now three oh one where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 3>But you may be listening to this on podcast. You

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<v Speaker 3>maybe listen to it, you know, a week from now.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, wherever you are, whatever time of the day

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<v Speaker 3>it is, whatever year it is.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you, We appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Nick Coffee, Austin Montgomery, the travel chief

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<v Speaker 3>alongside today we're gonna take you up till six o'clock

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<v Speaker 3>and you could take us with you wherever you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen live on the iHeartRadio app. Also listen live at

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<v Speaker 3>seven ninety Louisville dot com. Obviously Thursdays are are thirsty

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<v Speaker 3>thursdays for me. I mean, this weather be a bad

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<v Speaker 3>day to be a cold beer. I tell you that

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<v Speaker 3>right now. Might as well say your prayer, say your

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<v Speaker 3>goodbyes to everybody you love, because it's beer drinking weather

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<v Speaker 3>out there, really has been the last couple of days.

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<v Speaker 3>It was gloomy earlier, and I think it was. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's what it's supposed to be. But in downtown Louisville,

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<v Speaker 3>as I speak right now again, it could change, and

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<v Speaker 3>it may have already changed since I walked in about

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<v Speaker 3>twenty minutes ago. But it is nice, nice outside. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is your Friday right for the show, Austin, You're

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<v Speaker 3>out tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, yes, sure I am.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me ask you. Are you being taken away from me?

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<v Speaker 4>Or are you off?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm being taken away. Okay, I'm going to uh

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<v Speaker 2>so a Tony D. White happy hour, but just no Tony.

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<v Speaker 5>Tony and DW.

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<v Speaker 3>White happy hour where there's no live broadcast. Yes, oh man,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean things could get crazy. Yeah, I mean, but.

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<v Speaker 4>Dare I ask what you're needed for there? Dare I?

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<v Speaker 4>Dare I ask?

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't mean, I mean any situation where you're

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<v Speaker 3>a part of it, that situation becomes better. So like

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<v Speaker 3>I know that that that goes without saying, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just asking, like that's what you get taken away from

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<v Speaker 3>just because you know, I mean, I'm putting.

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<v Speaker 4>M in a bad spot.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not his call, No, it's trust me.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, look, I put you in a bad spot. I

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<v Speaker 4>didn't mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't mean to put it out there like that. No,

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<v Speaker 2>we had a we actually have a getting some help. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm finally they hired a a part timer to come

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<v Speaker 2>help out. Yes, round of look at a scale, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>shout outs to the team. So as we grow basically

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<v Speaker 2>like a shadowing thing and we're just kind of treating

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<v Speaker 2>it as like okay, like a like an actual remote type.

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<v Speaker 3>Of well that actually makes a lot of sense then,

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<v Speaker 3>because you're going to basically be showing somebody the ropes

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<v Speaker 3>of how it's done. And they've got big shoes to fill,

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<v Speaker 3>but they'll they'll try their best at.

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<v Speaker 4>Least I hope so.

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<v Speaker 3>But like, here's here's something that I just thought of that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it doesn't really take a lot to like

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<v Speaker 3>think of this, But how about like realizing and utilizing

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<v Speaker 3>I should say that, you know, Dwight is having a

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<v Speaker 3>meet and greet. Don't know the timing of it, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's not a lot broadcast. It's just to hang out.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not bring coffee and company there and have a

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<v Speaker 3>big pow wow with you know.

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<v Speaker 5>To where it's actually a great idea?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have many of them, but sometimes they just

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<v Speaker 3>appear in my brain to be Do you think there's

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<v Speaker 3>people who know this show is here?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh surely, I hope.

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<v Speaker 3>So surely what can we do to tell them, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we're here, we we'd like to have fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, And they.

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<v Speaker 3>Just take you away from me as if like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to go have fun. And I know there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot that goes into it as far as the

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<v Speaker 3>client selling and all that, but I mean I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>an added bonus. I mean, you already you've got Dwight,

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<v Speaker 3>that's all you need, and then you throw me in there.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just a complimentary peace you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Rick at that point, possibly, are you kidding me? Let's

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<v Speaker 2>make that happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I will, you know, out of my control, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>But we'll miss you tomorrow. You'll be having fun, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll be you know, I'll be here a good time.

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<v Speaker 5>And next Friday I'm out too.

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<v Speaker 2>The sisters graduating high school.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, shout out to the sisters.

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<v Speaker 5>Shout out Emily, Emily, shout out Emily.

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<v Speaker 4>You have a sister, Emily?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know that I have a sister Emily? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>now that I think of it, yes, yeah, we both

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<v Speaker 3>have Emily's sister.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, look at that.

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<v Speaker 3>So so graduating high school that has got to be

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<v Speaker 3>this is this is, I guess more so. I could

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<v Speaker 3>be wrong, but I think tomorrow was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 3>the last day of school in Bullet County. But obviously

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<v Speaker 3>they had a lot of snow days that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>so I think they're they're extended out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>But graduation season is upon us. And did you, like,

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<v Speaker 3>was graduation like a big deal when?

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<v Speaker 4>Not?

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<v Speaker 3>Not to you individually, I just mean, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we had we had graduation parties after we graduated high school,

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<v Speaker 3>like my friends did.

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<v Speaker 4>But like after Like when I graduated, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean I wore like what I would wear to school

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<v Speaker 3>on the day of like a basketball game, like a

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<v Speaker 3>khakis and a shirt and tie kind of thing. But like,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like graduation each year has become a bigger

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<v Speaker 3>celebration for folks, which I think is justified.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going in like arenas now or like like freedom Hall.

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<v Speaker 2>Mine was just done on the football field.

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<v Speaker 4>Well see that, Like I would prefer it that way.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, that was a great time.

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<v Speaker 3>So I believe my class, Yeah, because I graduated high

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<v Speaker 3>school class of two thousand and six at North Bullet

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<v Speaker 3>High School, and we graduated in our we graduate waiting

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<v Speaker 3>in our gym and walked across the stage, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>just all that that they That's the way it had

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<v Speaker 3>many many years ago, when my parents started going there.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the next year my wife, she's a graduate

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<v Speaker 3>of two thousand and seven class, and they had their graduation.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe it broad been arena, so they you know,

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<v Speaker 3>clearly you need more space that kind of stuff. But

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of, you know, if given the choice, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>this is just me thinking about the way it was

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<v Speaker 3>done back in my day, but like I would rather

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<v Speaker 3>graduate at my high school and not at you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean again, maybe there's a cool element to you know,

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<v Speaker 3>walking across the stage. But when I went to her graduation,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there were a lot of people there, but

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<v Speaker 3>like nowhere, I mean, it was really I can't say

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<v Speaker 3>it was an empty arena because it wasn't empty, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like it would if there

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<v Speaker 3>was an event there that took place in the area

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<v Speaker 3>where in fact the students are seated and they've got

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<v Speaker 3>this little stage set up in front with the podium,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it would be viewed as like a any

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know, I feel like a.

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<v Speaker 5>Graduation was a big for me.

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<v Speaker 4>It's got to be a cost, right, Like if.

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<v Speaker 3>You're using the fairgrounds of facilities to have a graduation,

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<v Speaker 3>like you got to pay them, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you should just do it at your school. But I

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<v Speaker 3>guess maybe they can't accommodate given the fact that you

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<v Speaker 3>know a lot of people show up to graduation. They

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<v Speaker 3>didn't did did did you have any family members bring

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<v Speaker 3>out like the airhorn or yell when you graduated when

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<v Speaker 2>They totally yelled. I had uh that few people that

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<v Speaker 2>that flew in from out of town. My grandma, my

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<v Speaker 2>grandpa came in from out of town. So yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>did the uh. They did the yell and also hit

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<v Speaker 2>I had. I felt like I had to do something funny,

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<v Speaker 2>silly on storage, so I did the I hit the Bernie.

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<v Speaker 4>Dance did you hit the Bernie?

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<v Speaker 2>I hit the Bernie. We can hit Bernie on stage?

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<v Speaker 2>Nice hit the Bernie like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no I have no memorable like moment within

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<v Speaker 3>my graduation other than just you know the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>I that I graduated.

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<v Speaker 2>I was always like the goofy kid. I always liked

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<v Speaker 2>to be like the class clown. So I knew I

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<v Speaker 2>had to to go out doing something silly.

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<v Speaker 4>Aren't they powerless?

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<v Speaker 1>Though?

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<v Speaker 3>When they tell you, like, please hold your applause until

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<v Speaker 3>after everyone, please do not sneak in you know an

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<v Speaker 3>air is that what it's called an airhorn?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but like what you like?

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<v Speaker 3>What are what are you gonna do if somebody does

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<v Speaker 3>in fact defy you and start screaming and hollering And

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<v Speaker 3>trust me, I graduated school in Bullet County, so there

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<v Speaker 3>were a lot of cow bells being wrong a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of a lot of rooms, a lot of redneck energy,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of hillbilly energy, uh you know, here and

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<v Speaker 3>there throughout the entire the entire thing. Not to say that,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, that was everyone who graduated, and not

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<v Speaker 3>to say that there's anything wrong with that if you

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<v Speaker 3>do identify as a redneck or hillbilly, but uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I just remember going to my sister's graduation,

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<v Speaker 3>she graduated the year prior, and I remember thinking like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>as a sixteen year old. Then at that time, I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you think these people are gonna listen to you, Principal

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<v Speaker 3>or counselor whoever it is like saying, could you please,

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<v Speaker 3>we do ask that you hold all of your reaction

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<v Speaker 3>and applause until we do a final send off for

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<v Speaker 3>the class of you know. And I guess the reason

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<v Speaker 3>they would do that is because if people get to

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<v Speaker 3>carry it on a little bit, you know, really, I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't say for a long amount of time, but they

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<v Speaker 3>go pretty quick like you're you're announcing Austin Montgomery and

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<v Speaker 3>then we're going to Nick Coffee, and there's not a

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<v Speaker 4>A big deal. I mean graduate high school. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a big deal and and you know, a huge

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I had the maturity and life experience, certainly,

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<v Speaker 3>of high school. Now God bless him. Let's send him

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<v Speaker 3>on his way, and he's responsible for himself. But you like,

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<v Speaker 4>So let people get rowdy if they want.

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<v Speaker 5>I had no desire to go to college immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just ready to be done, waking up early

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, you wanted to do your own thing. You wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to fly I want the Japs got to let you fly.

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<v Speaker 2>I went the JCTC when I got here, and then

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<v Speaker 2>like it really had no business doing downtown or southwest

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<v Speaker 2>downtown and parking under parking right next to that taco

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<v Speaker 2>I know exactly where you're talking about, seeing people freak

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<v Speaker 2>out and pass out on salts over there in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lot of saults on salts. Yes, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>So it was probably not the best decision. UPS was

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<v Speaker 2>paying for it, so I'm like, might as well just

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<v Speaker 2>give it a shot. But I really had no clue

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<v Speaker 2>what I wanted to do. And then at one point

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<v Speaker 2>And then as part of this art class I went

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<v Speaker 2>to after a couple of semesters said I had to

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<v Speaker 2>go to a different museum and take a picture of

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<v Speaker 2>a painting and like write an essay of it every month.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, you know what, I'm just really only

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<v Speaker 2>here to tell chicks that I'm going to college. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>at least you're honest with yourself, you know. And I'm

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<v Speaker 3>Me, and I'll tell you what the And I know

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<v Speaker 3>I've talked about this before, but in two thousand, really

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<v Speaker 3>just my high school years. So I got into high

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<v Speaker 3>school around two, I guess two thousand and two thousand

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<v Speaker 3>and three, four, five, six, Yeah, those were the years

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<v Speaker 3>I was in high school. And maybe it's just the

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<v Speaker 3>way I remember it, but I kind of don't think

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<v Speaker 3>it is. I think it's there's clearly been a big shift,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's it's and it's for good. But whenever, And

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it was different for you because quite literally

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<v Speaker 3>where you went to school in Arizona, it's the other

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<v Speaker 3>side of the country. I'm sure cultural, it's just a

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<v Speaker 3>different world. But you're and you're also so significantly younger

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<v Speaker 3>than me, especially you know, well as we get older,

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<v Speaker 3>it won't seem that way. But like when I graduate

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<v Speaker 3>high school in two thousand and six, held were you, uh?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I was just maybe turning like fifteen, No,

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<v Speaker 2>I in sixth grade. I was enter in sixth grade.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so I'm about to be thirty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>So you were you were probably going to the sixth

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<v Speaker 3>or seventh grade when I graduated.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, when you.

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<v Speaker 3>Think about that era of your life, like that is

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<v Speaker 3>a big difference. Right when you were that age and

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<v Speaker 3>I was seventeen eighteen, visually it would have looked like

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<v Speaker 3>you were a young child and I was, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess team about to be, you know, legally an adult.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyways, when I was in school, it wasn't ever

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<v Speaker 3>like we weren't tortured by it, but there was just

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<v Speaker 3>this this energy constant throughout that if you did not

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<v Speaker 3>have a full plan to go to college, then like

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<v Speaker 3>life was gonna like you're you were like not to

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<v Speaker 3>say they would claim that you're a loser, but like

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<v Speaker 3>it was just in your brain that the only way

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<v Speaker 3>and the only scenario you could have any success in

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<v Speaker 3>life is if in fact you go to college, and

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<v Speaker 3>if not, it's going to be really tough for you.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, I believe that a lot of people did,

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<v Speaker 3>and uh, you know, there's nothing wrong with encouraging folks

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<v Speaker 3>to to to seek higher education and and and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of times when it comes to college,

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<v Speaker 3>especially now that I'm older, college the experience is huge,

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<v Speaker 3>but not necessarily all because of what you learn as

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<v Speaker 3>far as the textbooks and the classes, it's just life experience,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, there's a lot that comes with it.

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<v Speaker 3>So now it doesn't it doesn't appear at all to

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<v Speaker 3>be that way. Like obviously they're going to encourage and

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<v Speaker 3>help kids get to a college they want to go

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<v Speaker 3>to that makes the most sense for them. But like

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<v Speaker 3>now there are kids who have really good grades that

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<v Speaker 3>have made you know, have said for And the reason

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<v Speaker 3>I say this because I have a lot of friends

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<v Speaker 3>that still work in education, and some of them started

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<v Speaker 3>being teachers and they're still doing that, and then a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of them have have moved to the administration side

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<v Speaker 3>of things. I mean, I have a close friend of

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<v Speaker 3>mine who's a principal, and my one of my closest

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<v Speaker 3>friends is the athletic director. And I've had other friends

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<v Speaker 3>that were in the education and then understandably so they

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<v Speaker 3>decided to do something different, which I get it. Teachers

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<v Speaker 3>are not taking care of the way they should be

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<v Speaker 3>and it's a thankless job. And I'm worried that in

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<v Speaker 3>ten years, like it's gonna be really really hard to

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<v Speaker 3>find teachers, to be honest with you, But anyway, is

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm getting at is nowadays, there are kids who

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<v Speaker 3>have really good grades that would be fully able to

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<v Speaker 3>go to college and probably do well, but they don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to do that.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to get into a trade.

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<v Speaker 3>They want to you know, take a you know, take

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<v Speaker 3>an entry Yeah, take an entry level job. And probably

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<v Speaker 3>a bigger factor than I even think about until right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Is it just popped up in my brain. They probably

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<v Speaker 3>even at that age. No, I don't want to go

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<v Speaker 3>and do an insane amount of debt just to go

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<v Speaker 3>to school not knowing what I want to do, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. So I'm glad that that's the

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<v Speaker 3>case now because you know, I know many of friends peers,

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<v Speaker 3>mostly people that are a little bit younger than me,

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<v Speaker 3>that they didn't go to college right out of high school.

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<v Speaker 3>They got into a trade as like an apprentice, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they're doing really well for themselves. They actually

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<v Speaker 3>do end up getting schooling through their union and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm just, I mean it just I was never

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<v Speaker 3>a good student at all ever, and it was in

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<v Speaker 3>school in any way as far as like there's one

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<v Speaker 3>I was. I was decent when it comes to like

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<v Speaker 3>English and and writing and things like that, and I

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<v Speaker 3>was actually kind of decent in like art, which you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't ever something I knew was I thought was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be exact same, but like that was sort

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<v Speaker 3>of something that didn't didn't really become really overwhelmingly difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>But a lot of things when it comes to school,

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<v Speaker 3>like I was very insecure and overwhelming because school was

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<v Speaker 3>not easy to me really in any way, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot it was to a lot of my friends.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I just remember always thinking, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to go to college. You gotta go to college,

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<v Speaker 3>gotta go to college. And I mean I always felt

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<v Speaker 3>less than because like I knew that if I did

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<v Speaker 3>me than it was most and you know it was

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<v Speaker 3>at times, But I don't know, I'm happy that now

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<v Speaker 3>we look, you can graduate high school and then in

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<v Speaker 3>five years already have your you know, you've already kind

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<v Speaker 3>of maybe broken into whatever career you're going to get into.

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<v Speaker 3>And the just used to be this this stigma that

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<v Speaker 3>if you weren't pursuing college right after high school, well your.

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<v Speaker 4>Life is doomed.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's clearly not the case, and really it never was,

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<v Speaker 3>but now, I mean, look the people out out that

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<v Speaker 3>are out there right now. I'm sure their degree has

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<v Speaker 3>helped them in certain ways. Like both my wife and

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<v Speaker 3>my sister, they both they both graduated, but don't use

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<v Speaker 3>their degree for any for what they do, and they're

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<v Speaker 3>very successful in what they do and have great careers.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think they would maybe have the position

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<v Speaker 3>they have if they didn't obtain a degree. But it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't like they went to school to learn how to

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<v Speaker 3>do what they're doing now, So there's value in it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I give anybody credit who graduated.

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<v Speaker 4>With a four year degree. I did not.

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<v Speaker 3>And even if you don't use it at all, even

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<v Speaker 3>if you did it just to say that you did

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<v Speaker 3>it and you wanted to challenge yourself, good for you,

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, I know that would be really hard

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<v Speaker 3>for me and it was. So Again, the reason I'm

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<v Speaker 3>bringing this up is because you mentioned your sister graduate

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<v Speaker 3>in high school, and it kind of just used to

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<v Speaker 3>be well, okay, you know, that's the bare minimum, but no,

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<v Speaker 3>like it should be something that is celebrated and it's

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<v Speaker 3>really a big step in your life because when you

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<v Speaker 3>are no longer in high school, in the public school system,

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<v Speaker 3>Catholic school system, private school system, whatever it may be.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like you're out there. You may still live

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<v Speaker 3>with mom, you may still have you know, them paying

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<v Speaker 3>for certain stuff. But like clock's ticking on that, did

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<v Speaker 2>Any friends that you were like maybe surrounded by or

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<v Speaker 2>close by that like dropped out of high school?

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<v Speaker 3>So I had a close friend who our senior year,

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<v Speaker 3>he ended up kind of just kind of dipping out

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit, kind of stopped coming.

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<v Speaker 4>To school a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was older, so he'd been held back when

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<v Speaker 3>he was younger, so he was a little bit older

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<v Speaker 3>and he was somebody like me. To be honest, where

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<v Speaker 3>school I don't think was ever necessarily easy for But

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<v Speaker 3>he ended up having to go to summer school that year,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's how he ended up obtaining his degree. It

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<v Speaker 3>was just in summer school. Sweeen't get to graduate with us.

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<v Speaker 3>But but there's an example, and that's not you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not I'm sure that was difficult and it would

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<v Speaker 3>be this day and age if that happened to somebody

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<v Speaker 3>to where they just fell short and couldn't walk the line,

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing. But at the time, like it

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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh my God, their life's over and that's

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<v Speaker 3>not That's so not the case, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just I don't know, a lot of things

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<v Speaker 4>have changed.

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<v Speaker 3>I graduated high school nineteen years ago, and certainly a

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<v Speaker 3>lot in life has changed in a big way. So

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to all the graduates out there, because I

427
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<v Speaker 3>know the high school graduations will be starting here soon

428
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<v Speaker 3>if they haven't already. And uh, you know, that's a

429
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<v Speaker 3>big accomplishment.

430
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<v Speaker 5>I didn't go to any parties after I graduated.

431
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<v Speaker 3>What do you mean, like graduation parties are just parties,

432
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<v Speaker 3>graduation parties at all.

433
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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I du that was a week.

434
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<v Speaker 3>That was my whole summer because we all had graduation parties,

435
00:18:55.599 --> 00:18:57.599
<v Speaker 3>And like that's one I mean, I think I think

436
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<v Speaker 3>I got more money from my graduation party than I

437
00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:01.480
<v Speaker 3>got for like any birth there. And you think it

438
00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:04.240
<v Speaker 3>wasn't like, you know, a crazy substantial amount of money.

439
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<v Speaker 3>But and that's why, like it's funny. We open up

440
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<v Speaker 3>the mailbox every day. At least three times. In the

441
00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:14.640
<v Speaker 3>last two weeks, I've received cards from my cousin's children,

442
00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:16.799
<v Speaker 3>people that I know in love, but I you know,

443
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<v Speaker 3>they live across the country.

444
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<v Speaker 4>I don't.

445
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<v Speaker 3>I don't really see them often at all. They certainly

446
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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't expect me to drive across the country to come

447
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<v Speaker 3>to the graduation party. But they know, Hey, we're sending

448
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<v Speaker 3>out envelopes and invitations to everybody acknowledging, so maybe you

449
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<v Speaker 3>put a little check in the mail.

450
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<v Speaker 4>And look, I get it. I hear you, man.

451
00:19:34.799 --> 00:19:38.880
<v Speaker 3>I remember starting off, I had had graduation money. And

452
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<v Speaker 3>then I'm going to sound like a real dummy here,

453
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<v Speaker 3>not that I already haven't, probably in the first twenty

454
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<v Speaker 3>minutes or so, but what is it a some kind

455
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<v Speaker 3>of bond like the savings bonds? Is that still a thing?

456
00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:52.599
<v Speaker 3>I had savings bonds that were given to me when

457
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<v Speaker 3>I was young by my mama. Okay, and you know

458
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<v Speaker 3>over time they I think they become more valuable. But

459
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<v Speaker 3>I cash those suckers out because I had my own

460
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<v Speaker 3>bank account. I had graduation money, you know, I had

461
00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:09.680
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of money from my job at Finish Line.

462
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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, you know, I remember the top

463
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<v Speaker 3>of the warld Oh dude, I was like, I might

464
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<v Speaker 3>as well just buy a house now, you know what

465
00:20:15.519 --> 00:20:17.559
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Like just this, I mean, I got money now,

466
00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:19.960
<v Speaker 3>which you know clearly that was the summer. Yea, that

467
00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:23.400
<v Speaker 3>runs out pretty quickly. And then I never got my

468
00:20:23.480 --> 00:20:25.880
<v Speaker 3>check from Hollister. What if I showed up to Hollister

469
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<v Speaker 3>and was like, hey, you know, back in the summer

470
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<v Speaker 3>of two thousand and.

471
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<v Speaker 4>Five I worked. I worked a two and a half

472
00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:33.400
<v Speaker 4>hour shift and then quit. Do you have my check?

473
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Your I mean your employee number.

474
00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Which is funny because there's like ways you can have

475
00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:40.160
<v Speaker 3>a buddy who I don't know if it's because of

476
00:20:40.160 --> 00:20:41.640
<v Speaker 3>his job or what it is, but he has the

477
00:20:41.680 --> 00:20:44.880
<v Speaker 3>ability to like there's funds out there available for people

478
00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:46.720
<v Speaker 3>that they didn't know that they were that were there.

479
00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:49.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's from previous jobs or you know,

480
00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:54.200
<v Speaker 3>like a partial tax return. It wasn't about that, yeah,

481
00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.480
<v Speaker 3>for and it's it's rarely ever like something substantial, but

482
00:20:56.519 --> 00:20:58.119
<v Speaker 3>there's like a database where you can look at it.

483
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<v Speaker 3>And my buddy sent me what was I believe, like

484
00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:06.039
<v Speaker 3>seventy two dollars that apparently like is owed to me

485
00:21:06.880 --> 00:21:09.599
<v Speaker 3>and it's and it's either my Hollister check that like

486
00:21:09.680 --> 00:21:13.000
<v Speaker 3>they they put it off the books but nobody's claimed.

487
00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:15.160
<v Speaker 4>It, or it's it's whatever.

488
00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:17.559
<v Speaker 3>I got my wallet stolen and they arrested the guy

489
00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:19.920
<v Speaker 3>and he owed restitution, which would.

490
00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:21.279
<v Speaker 4>Be more than that. Do you know that story? No,

491
00:21:21.319 --> 00:21:24.759
<v Speaker 4>it's it's a wild story for a different day. Yeah,

492
00:21:24.759 --> 00:21:27.160
<v Speaker 4>I've told this story to you, haven't I not about

493
00:21:27.200 --> 00:21:28.119
<v Speaker 4>your walley getting Like.

494
00:21:28.279 --> 00:21:31.240
<v Speaker 3>My wallet got stole stolen right after I graduated high school,

495
00:21:31.240 --> 00:21:33.599
<v Speaker 3>probably a year after, and I left it on the

496
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<v Speaker 3>counter at a subway. But the subway was in a

497
00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:39.440
<v Speaker 3>gas station, so I just thought I lost it or whatnot.

498
00:21:39.720 --> 00:21:42.680
<v Speaker 3>Next day, I remember, you know, like, yeah, I lost

499
00:21:42.720 --> 00:21:45.519
<v Speaker 3>my wallet, and somebody's like, well, you realize that subway

500
00:21:45.559 --> 00:21:47.920
<v Speaker 3>is in a gas station. They have cameras, so they

501
00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:50.200
<v Speaker 3>could probably check and see if you left your wallet there.

502
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<v Speaker 5>Ok.

503
00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:52.160
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, all right, I'll give that a shot.

504
00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:53.319
<v Speaker 4>I guess I have.

505
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<v Speaker 3>This is not ringing any bells at all to you, Okay.

506
00:21:55.640 --> 00:21:59.799
<v Speaker 3>So anyways, I end up calling and the manager of

507
00:21:59.839 --> 00:22:02.200
<v Speaker 3>the the gas station, not the subway, was like, yeah,

508
00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:03.279
<v Speaker 3>we'll check our cameras for you.

509
00:22:03.559 --> 00:22:04.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, okay, cool.

510
00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:05.000
<v Speaker 5>Nice.

511
00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.119
<v Speaker 3>So they checked the cameras. I hear nothing for like

512
00:22:07.559 --> 00:22:10.160
<v Speaker 3>a month. Well then then I get a phone call

513
00:22:10.319 --> 00:22:13.759
<v Speaker 3>from this detective who's like, yeah, we made an arrest.

514
00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:17.359
<v Speaker 3>The employee at subway, took your wallet, went outside, through

515
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<v Speaker 3>everything in the dumpster other than the cash and your wallet.

516
00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:23.039
<v Speaker 3>It's like sixty bucks, and we you know, we filed

517
00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:26.559
<v Speaker 3>charges and somebody will be in contact with you about

518
00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:28.519
<v Speaker 3>restitution because not only are you going to get you

519
00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:30.680
<v Speaker 3>sixty dollars back, but I had to get a new

520
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<v Speaker 3>Social Security card.

521
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<v Speaker 4>I had to get a new ID made.

522
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<v Speaker 3>Wow, And I'm thinking, okay, well, I'm glad that they

523
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<v Speaker 3>got it worked out.

524
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<v Speaker 4>Well.

525
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<v Speaker 3>Then like I forgot about that. Years go by, not

526
00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:47.200
<v Speaker 3>kidding you, at least at least eleven twelve years go by,

527
00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:50.559
<v Speaker 3>and then all of a sudden, I get a phone

528
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<v Speaker 3>call from my stepdad.

529
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<v Speaker 4>Who this is like one of the rare.

530
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<v Speaker 3>This is one of those moments to where like I

531
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<v Speaker 3>knew at this moment, not that I didn't already know.

532
00:22:58.319 --> 00:22:59.440
<v Speaker 4>But like he's got my back.

533
00:22:59.880 --> 00:23:02.960
<v Speaker 3>He calls me and I'm at work and he's like, hey,

534
00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:05.200
<v Speaker 3>a detective just came here.

535
00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:05.720
<v Speaker 4>Looking for you.

536
00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:09.680
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like what he was like, Yeah, HELLENPD detective

537
00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:11.559
<v Speaker 3>just came here asking if this is still your address.

538
00:23:11.559 --> 00:23:13.119
<v Speaker 3>I told him you haven't lived here in a long

539
00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:16.279
<v Speaker 3>long time, and asked what it was about, and he

540
00:23:16.279 --> 00:23:18.480
<v Speaker 3>didn't really tell me. But I didn't tell him anything

541
00:23:18.480 --> 00:23:22.480
<v Speaker 3>about you what I just told because he basically he

542
00:23:22.559 --> 00:23:25.119
<v Speaker 3>was calling me like, hey, what happened. I'm I'm not

543
00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:27.400
<v Speaker 3>gonna snitch on you. Let me know if I could. Like, basically,

544
00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:29.440
<v Speaker 3>he didn't tell my mom, but he was like, hey, man,

545
00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:31.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what's going on. Cobs came looking for you.

546
00:23:31.599 --> 00:23:32.000
<v Speaker 4>Talk to me.

547
00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:34.359
<v Speaker 3>Let's figure this out. And I'm like, I have no clue.

548
00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:35.359
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, well, I got his car and I

549
00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:37.240
<v Speaker 3>got his number. Do you want to call him? I'm like, yeah,

550
00:23:37.319 --> 00:23:38.720
<v Speaker 3>of course, I have no clue what it's about. I

551
00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:41.160
<v Speaker 3>call him. And the person who stole my wallet, hitting

552
00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:43.799
<v Speaker 3>it up, racking up all kinds of different charges was

553
00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:46.519
<v Speaker 3>in prison at the time I got this phone call,

554
00:23:46.799 --> 00:23:49.400
<v Speaker 3>and he had finally worked enough in prison to pay

555
00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:52.200
<v Speaker 3>off different restitution that he owed, and part of it

556
00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:54.000
<v Speaker 3>was me, And it wasn't the same person that you

557
00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:56.960
<v Speaker 3>know years ago had called me. But like, here we

558
00:23:57.000 --> 00:23:59.720
<v Speaker 3>are eleven twelve years later, and I forgot all about

559
00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:02.079
<v Speaker 3>that whole thing even happening. And yet I guess this

560
00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:03.960
<v Speaker 3>guy's trying to make right and get out of prison

561
00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:06.400
<v Speaker 3>and one of the things. And here's what's crazy, I

562
00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:09.119
<v Speaker 3>never got anything. Even after that, I never got They

563
00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:10.480
<v Speaker 3>were like, yeah, we just wanted to let you know

564
00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:12.880
<v Speaker 3>that your your restitution check will be on the way.

565
00:24:13.240 --> 00:24:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

566
00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:15.400
<v Speaker 3>The address we had on file, which is great at

567
00:24:15.400 --> 00:24:17.400
<v Speaker 3>the time that they my legal address at the time

568
00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:20.400
<v Speaker 3>was my my stepfather and mother's house at the time,

569
00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:23.279
<v Speaker 3>so that's the only thing they had on file, and uh, you.

570
00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:25.079
<v Speaker 4>Know, I gave him my new address. I never never

571
00:24:25.119 --> 00:24:26.799
<v Speaker 4>got anything. So wow.

572
00:24:26.799 --> 00:24:30.359
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, like now that I'm older, even more so

573
00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:31.839
<v Speaker 3>than like whenever that phone call happened.

574
00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:32.640
<v Speaker 4>I mean I was an adult.

575
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:34.920
<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, I didn't have kids at the time,

576
00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:37.240
<v Speaker 3>but like I was married, and uh, I just remember

577
00:24:37.240 --> 00:24:40.680
<v Speaker 3>thinking at the time like wow, like I would have

578
00:24:40.839 --> 00:24:43.799
<v Speaker 3>I would have expected and not been bothered at all

579
00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:45.720
<v Speaker 3>if the first call he made was to my mother

580
00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.160
<v Speaker 3>like hey, somebody came here looking for your son.

581
00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:49.359
<v Speaker 4>He didn't do that.

582
00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:51.000
<v Speaker 3>So I'm like, that's a real one right there, Like

583
00:24:51.039 --> 00:24:54.519
<v Speaker 3>that's my heart. Oh, I mean my it did, but

584
00:24:54.559 --> 00:24:59.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking, like you didn't. I'm already, as it is,

585
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:02.440
<v Speaker 3>scared to death of getting in trouble with the law

586
00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:04.559
<v Speaker 3>to where like there's no senning, Like I'm the person

587
00:25:04.559 --> 00:25:07.319
<v Speaker 3>who knows I've never done a drug in my life

588
00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:10.240
<v Speaker 3>other than you know, a gummy that you can buy legally.

589
00:25:10.599 --> 00:25:11.839
<v Speaker 4>But I'll go through.

590
00:25:11.680 --> 00:25:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Security at the airport like, well, I'm sure somebody probably

591
00:25:14.039 --> 00:25:15.599
<v Speaker 3>planned cocaine on me, and I'm gonna go to jail,

592
00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:17.240
<v Speaker 3>like I just I'm a weirdo when it comes to

593
00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:20.680
<v Speaker 3>that kind of paranoia. So anyways, let's get the table

594
00:25:20.759 --> 00:25:22.480
<v Speaker 3>set for the rest of the show today because we

595
00:25:22.559 --> 00:25:23.920
<v Speaker 3>got something we got to get to here on the

596
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:27.039
<v Speaker 3>other side that I'm gonna just believe that it's gonna

597
00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:28.680
<v Speaker 3>get worked out, but I really, you know, I'm just

598
00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:31.759
<v Speaker 3>I guess it's wishful thinking. But to find out that

599
00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:36.880
<v Speaker 3>Ali Khalifa is ineligible and has been ineligible and filed

600
00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:40.680
<v Speaker 3>to be eligible and was told that that was denied,

601
00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:46.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean, again, it doesn't make any sense for him

602
00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:48.960
<v Speaker 3>to not be given a year of eligibility given his situation,

603
00:25:49.000 --> 00:25:51.559
<v Speaker 3>which we'll talk about on either side. But the people

604
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<v Speaker 3>that would have to do that are the ns DOABLEA

605
00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:58.000
<v Speaker 3>and like they're never reliable, never consistent, and you just

606
00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:00.599
<v Speaker 3>have no clue what you're gonna get. So we shall see,

607
00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:02.960
<v Speaker 3>but there's that in a lot more as we take

608
00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 3>you up till six o'clock. So hang out right here

609
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<v Speaker 3>on Sports Talk seven ninety.

610
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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on

611
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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

612
00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:20.880
<v Speaker 3>I probably should have done this a little bit earlier

613
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:23.599
<v Speaker 3>in the show, even though we are still relatively early

614
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:27.319
<v Speaker 3>in our three hour program. But happy birthday to Pat Kelsey.

615
00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:32.640
<v Speaker 3>He was born fifty years ago today, And I said

616
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:37.079
<v Speaker 3>this to Austin, and since saying it maybe four or

617
00:26:37.079 --> 00:26:39.519
<v Speaker 3>five minutes ago, I've had some real reflection on my

618
00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:43.480
<v Speaker 3>end because I can't believe Pat Kelsey's fifty years old,

619
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:45.519
<v Speaker 3>because like, if you would have told me that he

620
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:48.119
<v Speaker 3>turned forties five or forty six today, I totally would

621
00:26:48.119 --> 00:26:48.640
<v Speaker 3>have believed you.

622
00:26:49.000 --> 00:26:51.200
<v Speaker 4>It didn't look fifties believable. It's really his birthday.

623
00:26:51.200 --> 00:26:56.960
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not that far from fifty. I mean I am,

624
00:26:58.039 --> 00:27:03.000
<v Speaker 3>but I'm not and fifty. I mean nobody out there

625
00:27:03.039 --> 00:27:05.200
<v Speaker 3>is saying fifties young, right, Like you can be as

626
00:27:05.240 --> 00:27:08.200
<v Speaker 3>young as you want internally and live your life the

627
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:10.839
<v Speaker 3>way you want to, where you often don't think about

628
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:13.240
<v Speaker 3>your age, whether it be young or old, because you're

629
00:27:13.319 --> 00:27:16.799
<v Speaker 3>just you know, in the moment. But happy fiftieth birthday.

630
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:22.519
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I got some time. But for reference, yesterday

631
00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:26.160
<v Speaker 3>was my fourteen year anniversary with my wife, and in

632
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.920
<v Speaker 3>fourteen years from today, I'll be fifty years old, so

633
00:27:30.480 --> 00:27:33.640
<v Speaker 3>I guess that's kind of like the time reference there.

634
00:27:33.640 --> 00:27:36.039
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, happy birthday to Pat Kelsey. He's in Cincinnati

635
00:27:36.319 --> 00:27:38.480
<v Speaker 3>and he got to throw out a first pitch for

636
00:27:38.559 --> 00:27:42.279
<v Speaker 3>the Cincinnati Reads today, So pretty good birthday for him

637
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.240
<v Speaker 3>back in his hometown at Cincinnati. I know, last night

638
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.160
<v Speaker 3>was a big special night as they were finally given

639
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:50.799
<v Speaker 3>the green light to I guess, honor and do what

640
00:27:50.839 --> 00:27:52.880
<v Speaker 3>they have wanted to do for a long time for

641
00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:58.839
<v Speaker 3>Pete Rose. And overall that's a good like I'm glad

642
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:02.079
<v Speaker 3>that they're able to do that. But I mean the

643
00:28:02.119 --> 00:28:04.480
<v Speaker 3>obvious thing is like, why couldn't that have been done,

644
00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:06.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, right before he died.

645
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't know, just is.

646
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:10.759
<v Speaker 3>It really honoring somebody when they're when you do it,

647
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:12.720
<v Speaker 3>when you let it be done when they're when they're

648
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:16.839
<v Speaker 3>not alive to experience it, Like, I don't know, just

649
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:19.039
<v Speaker 3>in a way, it's almost like cruel. I mean again,

650
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:21.640
<v Speaker 3>part of me is like, well, at least it's something

651
00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:25.240
<v Speaker 3>and like his family and Reds fans, can you know now,

652
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:27.680
<v Speaker 3>I guess have something from that. But there's also the

653
00:28:27.680 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 3>other side that's like doing it after he died is crazy.

654
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.920
<v Speaker 3>So anyways, Happy birthday to to Pat Kelsey fifty years old.

655
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 3>And I'm sure this has probably been an ongoing thing

656
00:28:41.000 --> 00:28:45.000
<v Speaker 3>that they were aware of, but I really don't know.

657
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:47.039
<v Speaker 3>I did talk to somebody earlier today that gave me

658
00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:49.400
<v Speaker 3>some good info on the Ali Khalifa situation, and I

659
00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:53.240
<v Speaker 3>guess I'll just start there as far as what's going on.

660
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:56.920
<v Speaker 3>He has he's not eligible right now. That's the best

661
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.680
<v Speaker 3>way to describe it, because it could change. It's not

662
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.640
<v Speaker 3>as if you know, we now know for sure he'll

663
00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:06.160
<v Speaker 3>never play for Louisville, but as of right now, he

664
00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:10.799
<v Speaker 3>is not eligible. And UFL put out a statement earlier today.

665
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:13.759
<v Speaker 3>There have been some rumblings of this. In fact, sometimes

666
00:29:13.799 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 3>you get some things on the text line that.

667
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:18.039
<v Speaker 4>You don't really like.

668
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:19.920
<v Speaker 3>They come out of nowhere, and I don't really entertain

669
00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:22.960
<v Speaker 3>it because one would be foolish, irresponsible for me to

670
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:25.599
<v Speaker 3>just read anything that comes in as if like any

671
00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:28.359
<v Speaker 3>rumor has any validity. To it, But there was somebody

672
00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 3>right after. I remember at Derby. I talked about seeing

673
00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:32.519
<v Speaker 3>Ali Khalif at Derby and how much he'd lost weight,

674
00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:35.319
<v Speaker 3>how Grady looked, and somebody had sent in a text

675
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:37.720
<v Speaker 3>first time text on the text line that said that

676
00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:40.640
<v Speaker 3>they're hearing he's not eligible. And I'm thinking that makes

677
00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:42.920
<v Speaker 3>no sense at all because he's I mean, how could

678
00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.000
<v Speaker 3>he not be eligible. He hasn't even played four years

679
00:29:45.039 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 3>of college basketball. What would make him not eligible? So

680
00:29:47.720 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 3>I just thought there was nothing to it. But turns

681
00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:53.039
<v Speaker 3>out they were right. So the statement that came from

682
00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:55.839
<v Speaker 3>u of L says this University of louisvillmen's basketball student

683
00:29:55.839 --> 00:30:00.240
<v Speaker 3>athlete Ali Khalifa, his request for an extension of his

684
00:30:00.319 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 3>five year clock that would allow him to utilize his

685
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:05.920
<v Speaker 3>fourth and final season of eligibility was denied by the NCAA.

686
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 3>The University of Louisville is appealing that decision and believes

687
00:30:09.519 --> 00:30:12.519
<v Speaker 3>that Ali has a strong case that warrants an additional year.

688
00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:16.519
<v Speaker 3>After earning his bachelor's degree, Ali continues. Ali continues to

689
00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.400
<v Speaker 3>work towards a master's degree at the university while preparing

690
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.880
<v Speaker 3>for the twenty twenty five to twenty six basketball season.

691
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:25.000
<v Speaker 3>So they are appealing this. This is the standard appeals process.

692
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:30.240
<v Speaker 3>He has hired an attorney to fight this, but I

693
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:34.359
<v Speaker 3>mean I was almost in disbelief whenever this became news

694
00:30:34.400 --> 00:30:39.839
<v Speaker 3>today because the NCAA has seemingly had no control over

695
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:42.960
<v Speaker 3>anybody's eligibility for well over a year now, right, I mean,

696
00:30:43.000 --> 00:30:44.880
<v Speaker 3>it's been pretty routine.

697
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:47.720
<v Speaker 4>Hire a lawyer, fight the NCUAA.

698
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.319
<v Speaker 3>They're likely going to cave because they have no real

699
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:54.960
<v Speaker 3>legal ability to do a lot of the things they've

700
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:57.680
<v Speaker 3>done since their existence. I mean, that's why college athletics

701
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:00.720
<v Speaker 3>is in the current state that it's in. They operated

702
00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:06.480
<v Speaker 3>with no adjustment to society or any you know, realization

703
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:09.640
<v Speaker 3>that over time. Yeah, we probably probably probably not a

704
00:31:09.640 --> 00:31:11.920
<v Speaker 3>good look for us to be a billion dollar business

705
00:31:11.960 --> 00:31:15.200
<v Speaker 3>from one tournament, the NSTAA tournament. One event, and yet

706
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:18.400
<v Speaker 3>like nobody who actually performs in said event gets any

707
00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:21.279
<v Speaker 3>of the revenue from that. Like that's I mean, that's

708
00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 3>why they that's why in court they were told, yeah,

709
00:31:24.200 --> 00:31:27.599
<v Speaker 3>what you're doing is illegal, so you can't do that anymore.

710
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:30.880
<v Speaker 3>And oh, by the way, there's a billion dollar settlement,

711
00:31:31.240 --> 00:31:34.480
<v Speaker 3>multiple billions of dollars actually that are going to previous

712
00:31:34.480 --> 00:31:37.000
<v Speaker 3>student athletes who are now going to be paid because

713
00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.200
<v Speaker 3>there was revenue generated from their work and they got nothing.

714
00:31:40.440 --> 00:31:42.680
<v Speaker 3>And I don't mean they didn't get an education. But

715
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.880
<v Speaker 3>like again, the Optics, even if you wanted college athletics

716
00:31:45.880 --> 00:31:49.960
<v Speaker 3>to stay wholesome and pure with nobody making any money,

717
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:52.000
<v Speaker 3>the Optics.

718
00:31:51.759 --> 00:31:53.279
<v Speaker 4>Would continue to grow.

719
00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Just insane about it being a billion dollar event, and

720
00:31:57.599 --> 00:32:01.759
<v Speaker 3>yet all the money goes to the inns, Double A

721
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:04.160
<v Speaker 3>and the people who you know perform because that's what

722
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:07.440
<v Speaker 3>they're doing, right. They don't get any of that revenue.

723
00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.559
<v Speaker 3>So it's still not pay for play, but it's called revshare,

724
00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 3>that's what That's how they're wording it now. So anyways,

725
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:16.440
<v Speaker 3>thinks Double A. They have denied his request for an

726
00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 3>extension of his five year clock. And I've known what

727
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:20.079
<v Speaker 3>the five year clock was for a long time. You

728
00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:24.039
<v Speaker 3>get four years to play five, but there are countless

729
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:29.720
<v Speaker 3>examples of players that have played more than four and

730
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:33.000
<v Speaker 3>they're in their seventh year as a college athlete. I mean,

731
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:37.240
<v Speaker 3>this has not been something that has been like this

732
00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:41.279
<v Speaker 3>four year to play five the clock, as they say,

733
00:32:41.359 --> 00:32:44.319
<v Speaker 3>the five year clock, This has in no way been

734
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:47.680
<v Speaker 3>consistently enforced for a long long time. I mean, there

735
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:50.880
<v Speaker 3>are guys, you know, ten fifteen years ago, maybe not

736
00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:54.240
<v Speaker 3>even that long, that they had a five year clock

737
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:57.519
<v Speaker 3>and they had four years of injuries, and you know

738
00:32:57.519 --> 00:32:58.400
<v Speaker 3>they finally got healthy.

739
00:32:58.400 --> 00:32:59.400
<v Speaker 4>But what are you gonna do. It's life.

740
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 3>They're out of el ability that now they got to

741
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:04.000
<v Speaker 3>start the new chapter of their life. So I guess

742
00:33:04.039 --> 00:33:09.039
<v Speaker 3>just the recent situation with the NCAA not really seemingly

743
00:33:09.079 --> 00:33:11.519
<v Speaker 3>being able to enforce anything, that's what really kind of

744
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.079
<v Speaker 3>had me in disbelief that like, they're going to claim

745
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:16.720
<v Speaker 3>this guy's not eligible because here's what's here's his situation,

746
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:19.519
<v Speaker 3>and a lot of people may not know because we've

747
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:20.559
<v Speaker 3>never seen him play for Louisie.

748
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:21.319
<v Speaker 4>He said up last year.

749
00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:26.359
<v Speaker 3>But Ali Khalifa enrolled at Charlotte in two thousand and

750
00:33:26.400 --> 00:33:30.200
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one. That season, that was the first season

751
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:33.720
<v Speaker 3>post well, I say post COVID. That was the year

752
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 3>we tried to have a we tried to have live

753
00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.319
<v Speaker 3>sports during the pandemic with all the testing and all that.

754
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:38.960
<v Speaker 4>It was a mess.

755
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:41.079
<v Speaker 3>But that was his first year in college. He red

756
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:43.640
<v Speaker 3>shirted that year. It was not a medical red shirt.

757
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:45.880
<v Speaker 3>That's what I now have been told us that that

758
00:33:46.359 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 3>red shirt reason was not due to an injury. So

759
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:53.000
<v Speaker 3>the next year twenty twenty one twenty two, he was

760
00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 3>a freshman. He won Conference USA Freshman of the Year

761
00:33:56.119 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 3>when he played at Charlotte. He was at Charlotte for

762
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:02.359
<v Speaker 3>two years, so then he Treedransford in the twenty twenty

763
00:34:02.400 --> 00:34:06.400
<v Speaker 3>three to twenty four season to play at BYU for

764
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 3>Mark Pope. That was three years of playing basketball to it.

765
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:13.840
<v Speaker 3>Charlotte won at BYU. Last year enrolled at Louisville, had

766
00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:16.679
<v Speaker 3>to have surgery, did not play a single second because

767
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:20.400
<v Speaker 3>of the injury. So he's five years and he's played three,

768
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 3>but he clearly has I mean like it's I guess

769
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.360
<v Speaker 3>technically the four to play five that is the rule,

770
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:34.760
<v Speaker 3>and he's five years in. But there are countless examples

771
00:34:34.800 --> 00:34:38.360
<v Speaker 3>of players that did not get held to this. Therefore,

772
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:40.840
<v Speaker 3>why would he That's the argument, that's the appeal I

773
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 3>would assume, And it would be really shameful of the

774
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:48.400
<v Speaker 3>NCAA to view his entire situation from top to bottom

775
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.320
<v Speaker 3>and say this guy's not worthy of a fourth year

776
00:34:51.360 --> 00:34:53.599
<v Speaker 3>to play. He has not played four years. He's not

777
00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:57.039
<v Speaker 3>hanging out in college as long as he can just

778
00:34:57.079 --> 00:34:59.760
<v Speaker 3>to you know, avoid starting the next chapter of his life.

779
00:34:59.760 --> 00:35:01.760
<v Speaker 3>And I'm I'm not knocking anybody who does that.

780
00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:02.239
<v Speaker 4>It makes sense.

781
00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 3>You're foolish not to stay in college as long as

782
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.320
<v Speaker 3>you can and make in IL money, because that's I mean,

783
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:08.000
<v Speaker 3>it's worth.

784
00:35:07.800 --> 00:35:08.920
<v Speaker 4>Your while, certainly.

785
00:35:09.760 --> 00:35:13.440
<v Speaker 3>But he's probably on a student visa, right he's originally

786
00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:16.159
<v Speaker 3>from is it Egypt, so like he might even be

787
00:35:16.159 --> 00:35:18.880
<v Speaker 3>able to get an IL like he just this is

788
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:22.280
<v Speaker 3>somebody who has not played four years of college athletics

789
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:27.199
<v Speaker 3>because of an injury here, so they're going to appeal it,

790
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.599
<v Speaker 3>and I would assume a quick view of his situation

791
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.159
<v Speaker 3>will make them realize of all people that we want

792
00:35:35.159 --> 00:35:39.400
<v Speaker 3>to really stick it to, he's the last one. I mean,

793
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:42.119
<v Speaker 3>let me give you an example. And I'm not trying

794
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:44.360
<v Speaker 3>in no way am I picking on this guy at all,

795
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:47.760
<v Speaker 3>because I love this guy. But this is a former

796
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:51.960
<v Speaker 3>Louisville player who is still playing college basketball, and Ali

797
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Khalifa is told as of right now that he's not

798
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.639
<v Speaker 3>eligible to play. And I thought about this when I

799
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:58.599
<v Speaker 3>was talking to somebody from UFL earlier today and I

800
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:01.800
<v Speaker 3>just was thinking about out when he's when he because

801
00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:04.679
<v Speaker 3>that's a free year, So he did not play in

802
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:09.719
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one, but that year didn't count for anybody's

803
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.719
<v Speaker 3>eligibility or remember, that was a free year. So that

804
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:17.280
<v Speaker 3>year that he didn't play, like with with every other

805
00:36:17.400 --> 00:36:20.679
<v Speaker 3>college athlete, that year didn't matter. It didn't count. So

806
00:36:20.760 --> 00:36:23.800
<v Speaker 3>why is that being counted against him? On his on

807
00:36:23.840 --> 00:36:26.480
<v Speaker 3>his clock. That's a free year for everybody.

808
00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:27.199
<v Speaker 4>Why is that.

809
00:36:27.079 --> 00:36:30.239
<v Speaker 3>Being Why is that being used against him? So Jj

810
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:34.039
<v Speaker 3>Trainor entered college the same year that Ali Khalifa did

811
00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:39.519
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty twenty twenty one. JJ Traynor played at Louisville

812
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:43.840
<v Speaker 3>that season, it's a freebie. Well, then he has one

813
00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.039
<v Speaker 3>year of Kenny Payne where he's a red shirt. Well

814
00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:49.360
<v Speaker 3>he's technically a sophomore, but he gets a free year.

815
00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Then his junior season, the second year of KP, he

816
00:36:53.880 --> 00:36:56.440
<v Speaker 3>played in less than eleven games, so he got a

817
00:36:56.440 --> 00:37:00.960
<v Speaker 3>medical red shirt because of his injury. So JJ, he

818
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:08.239
<v Speaker 3>transfers to DePaul played last year there five points three

819
00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:11.519
<v Speaker 3>boards a game. Well, JJ's still eligible. He transferred to

820
00:37:11.519 --> 00:37:16.199
<v Speaker 3>play for Murray State. So JJ actually played the freebie year.

821
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:19.079
<v Speaker 3>Ali Khalifa did not, And yet he's ineligible and I'm

822
00:37:19.079 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 3>not saying that JJ shouldn't be eligible. I'm just stating that, like,

823
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:26.639
<v Speaker 3>make that make sense. JJ's played four years of college

824
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 3>basketball already, and that's not including the year that he

825
00:37:31.679 --> 00:37:35.079
<v Speaker 3>played ten games that qualified him for a medical red shirt.

826
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 4>So I just don't understand.

827
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.039
<v Speaker 3>Let I don't give you the full rundown here, So

828
00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:48.159
<v Speaker 3>JJ trainor he played in twenty games, eleven games, thirty

829
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:55.719
<v Speaker 3>two games, eight games, thirty two games. He's played in

830
00:37:56.480 --> 00:37:59.679
<v Speaker 3>one hundred and three games in his college career, and

831
00:37:59.719 --> 00:38:05.400
<v Speaker 3>he's played legitimately ever, He's played in all five seasons

832
00:38:05.400 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 3>he's been in college. One of them, though, he didn't

833
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:10.239
<v Speaker 3>play enough games to where he qualified for for a

834
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:17.800
<v Speaker 3>medical red shirt. So you know, I mean, that's something

835
00:38:17.800 --> 00:38:21.679
<v Speaker 3>I just don't quite quite understand, and I don't. And

836
00:38:21.960 --> 00:38:23.760
<v Speaker 3>the only reason I'm using him as an example because

837
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:25.840
<v Speaker 3>he's he was just a random player that I knew,

838
00:38:26.119 --> 00:38:29.039
<v Speaker 3>like I remembered that year, and it's because I follow

839
00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 3>Louisville and that's the team I, you know, care about

840
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:33.639
<v Speaker 3>and could. But I'm sure there's I mean, there are

841
00:38:33.639 --> 00:38:36.360
<v Speaker 3>countless examples of dudes who have been in college for

842
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.039
<v Speaker 3>seven eight years. Even I mean, that's an extreme example,

843
00:38:40.079 --> 00:38:45.199
<v Speaker 3>But like guys can go juco and not get any

844
00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 3>and that doesn't count at all now, But yet he

845
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 3>gets hurt and it's being so he got hurt one

846
00:38:52.239 --> 00:38:55.280
<v Speaker 3>year and did not play a single second. That was

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<v Speaker 3>last year, his first year when his clock started is

848
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<v Speaker 3>a free year that didn't count for an anybody. So

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<v Speaker 3>how like it just it makes no sense at all,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm hopeful that again a quick look at his

851
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<v Speaker 3>situation will end up getting him cleared because the installly

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<v Speaker 3>will realize, Yeah, of all people for us to stick

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<v Speaker 3>it to and not give a year, this guy's not

854
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<v Speaker 3>at all somebody we should do that to. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>JJ played five seasons to an extent, I mean played

856
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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of games in three of those five seasons.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, but again I'm holding I hope that it

858
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<v Speaker 3>works out. But if he's not healthy, I mean that

859
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<v Speaker 3>changes a lot for Louisville. I mean, he's a rare

860
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<v Speaker 3>player as it is, just with his skill set and

861
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<v Speaker 3>what he does. But this would be a big blow

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<v Speaker 3>if this doesn't get situated. And from what I was

863
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<v Speaker 3>told earlier today, they have no expectation at all when

864
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<v Speaker 3>it comes to a timeline, like they may find out

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<v Speaker 3>next week, they may find out next year. Stick around

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<v Speaker 3>right here. It's Coffee and Company. Phil about Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 3>Sports Talk seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

869
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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven to nine day.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't have a whole lot of time to get

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<v Speaker 3>into much here in our last segment of the three

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<v Speaker 3>o'clock hours, so I guess I'll use this time to

873
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<v Speaker 3>kind of set the table. There's an updated look at

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<v Speaker 3>the estimated money in il wise that college basketball programs

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<v Speaker 3>have spent this offseason. I think there's some numbers that

876
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<v Speaker 3>will surprise you. But then again, reminder, it's just an estimate.

877
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<v Speaker 3>There's no real way to know, and there probably never

878
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<v Speaker 3>will be a way to know for sure. Also, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk about the Caleb Williams book that is

880
00:40:36.480 --> 00:40:40.079
<v Speaker 3>coming out that has to make things awkward for him

881
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<v Speaker 3>in Chicago. I mean, it was pretty clear that he

882
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<v Speaker 3>was going to try to use leverage. He didn't have to,

883
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<v Speaker 3>you know, not go where he was drafted in the NFL.

884
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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I guess it's understandable he didn't want

885
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<v Speaker 3>to go to Chicago and the links in which they

886
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<v Speaker 3>were planning to go as far as doing everything they

887
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 3>could and not to not have him end up being

888
00:41:03.480 --> 00:41:07.519
<v Speaker 3>a Chicago Bear is wild. And then also last night

889
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<v Speaker 3>we got the full and final update of the NFL schedule,

890
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<v Speaker 3>and I mean, this is a whole new thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually really you know, I don't want to oversell it,

892
00:41:19.559 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 3>like I'm so entertained by it. It's the best thing ever.

893
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<v Speaker 3>But in the last few years, it's become a real

894
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<v Speaker 3>thing to where content teams, videographers, graphic designers, just you know,

895
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<v Speaker 3>folks in the creative space. You know, every NFL, every

896
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<v Speaker 3>pro franchise has a staff a team of people who

897
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<v Speaker 3>do that. Very gifted, very talented people, but like they're big.

898
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<v Speaker 3>One of their biggest days in the NFL is having

899
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<v Speaker 3>your creative video put together do unvailure schedule. And you know,

900
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<v Speaker 3>the Colts, they were bullied into, you know, taking theirs down,

901
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<v Speaker 3>and it was just another example of why the Colts

902
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<v Speaker 3>are just I mean, it's tough being a Colts fan

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm not offended.

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<v Speaker 4>By what they did.

905
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<v Speaker 3>The person and that they took a shot at and

906
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<v Speaker 3>made a joke about isn't offended and it wasn't really.

907
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<v Speaker 4>Offensive, So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just.

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<v Speaker 3>Of all the schedule releases from each NFL team, it

910
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<v Speaker 3>had to be my team that, you know, somehow messed

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<v Speaker 3>up that day, a day where it's supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I didn't see what happened. What was it?

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<v Speaker 3>They had like a Minecraft video that showed the release,

914
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<v Speaker 3>and they unveiled it with each game, each opponent, there

915
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<v Speaker 3>being some kind of you know, story, and they they did.

916
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<v Speaker 3>They had some kind of a reference of Tyreek Hill

917
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<v Speaker 3>being arrested before showing up to the game last year.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh and you know, he's come out and said that

919
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<v Speaker 3>he thought it was funny. I don't know the exact quote,

920
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<v Speaker 3>but I mean he's come out and said he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't bothered by that because they took it down

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<v Speaker 3>and had an issue official apology. And I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>who was pushing them to do that, but like it

924
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<v Speaker 3>didn't seem necessary, and you know, you just look foolish,

925
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<v Speaker 3>I think.

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<v Speaker 5>So.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, one thing though, I do want to mention before

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<v Speaker 3>we before we take our break here, when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to the the current college football scheduling format, not the

930
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<v Speaker 3>playoff but the conference schedules. The ACC has said that

931
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<v Speaker 3>they are not. I mean, they're adamant right now it's

932
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<v Speaker 3>staying at eight games, which I think they need to

933
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<v Speaker 3>follow suit with what the basketball side did. If you're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to go to nine, require a single non

935
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<v Speaker 3>conference opponent from a certain league. But with every other

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<v Speaker 3>league going to nine, the SEC sounds like they're getting

937
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<v Speaker 3>there's more and more push for them to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, if the SEC goes to nine, even though

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<v Speaker 3>they probably wouldn't be scared, you know, they're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be signing up to play non conference games against

941
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<v Speaker 3>power for programs they're going to I mean, if they

942
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<v Speaker 3>go to nine games in the SEC, a guarantee you

943
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<v Speaker 3>saink he tells everybody just schedule nothing but the FCS teams.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he probably wouldn't do that directly, but like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I just if you can't find some

946
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<v Speaker 3>kind of a scheduling requirement within your life league to

947
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<v Speaker 3>give you a chance to get better value from non

948
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<v Speaker 3>conference games on your schedule, then go to nine. I mean,

949
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<v Speaker 3>because let's be real, playing one of your ACC teams

950
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<v Speaker 3>is at least going to give you a better chance

951
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<v Speaker 3>to get some value than playing you know, a random

952
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<v Speaker 3>G five or an FCS. So we got a lot

953
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<v Speaker 3>to get into in these next couple of hours, so

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<v Speaker 3>make sure you stick around. It's coffee and company. Feel

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<v Speaker 3>about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven to ninety
