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Speaker 1: start to show the Right Way with George Brockler. If
Speaker 1: you're new to the planet. George a very accomplished district
Speaker 1: attorney in a repo the eighteenth and he's now about
Speaker 1: to be elected DA in the new Douglas County district.
Speaker 1: So George joins us to talk about this deeply concerning,
Speaker 1: really remarkable in all the bad ways story about Colorado
Speaker 1: Secretary of State Jenner grissold It loves to brag about
Speaker 1: how she's the gold standard and everything else and so
Speaker 1: holier than now.
Speaker 2: And has just had failure after failure. And now what
Speaker 2: do we have.
Speaker 1: Thanks to the Colorado GOP breaking the story, we have
Speaker 1: her office posting online six hundred different passwords, bios password
Speaker 1: words to election equipment in Colorado. So George kind enough
Speaker 1: to join us on the issue.
Speaker 2: Of is there a crime here or.
Speaker 1: Is it quote just a gross incompetence recklessness that requires
Speaker 1: the resignation.
Speaker 2: George, welcome back to the Dan Kaplis Show.
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me on, Dan, Happy Halloween. Love
Speaker 3: the outfit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, my friend, thank you. It's my orange
Speaker 1: vest and just in the spirit of the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks. A lot of great comments on it today too.
Speaker 2: But yeah, George, so I know you've been studying this.
Speaker 1: You tweeted out at George Brockler CRS one DASH thirteen
Speaker 1: DESH seven O eight sub two. Can you walk people
Speaker 1: through that and give us your take on this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to go back to Tina Peters. Right, So,
Speaker 3: Tina Peters happens. There's an indictment. That indictment contains language
Speaker 3: that says, amongst many of the other things that Tina's
Speaker 3: accused of doing, she posted online the very same passwords
Speaker 3: that Jenna Grizzold's office just posted online, and it says
Speaker 3: it's a serious data breach. In response to that, Tina
Speaker 3: Peters gets charged with a couple of different charges, but
Speaker 3: not this one. And the reasons this one wasn't charged
Speaker 3: is because it didn't exist. This was part of a
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two bill that Jenna championed. That usurped a
Speaker 3: lot of local control from county clerics and created broad
Speaker 3: sweeping powers and a duty for Jenna to safe keep
Speaker 3: these elections. But it also created a brand new law.
Speaker 3: That's the one I put in the tweet there that's
Speaker 3: gone crazy, Dan, I've never had a tweet like this.
Speaker 3: You have them all the time. I don't. It's had
Speaker 3: over like four hundred and twenty thousand impression. Wow, I've
Speaker 3: never seen anything like it. And it's just the law
Speaker 3: and this statute, which I think we should call Jenna's law,
Speaker 3: for the law she can't be that allows her, that
Speaker 3: allows her to go after anyone who posts online passwords,
Speaker 3: and it calls it a fifth class felony when it happens.
Speaker 3: And so the question you asked is the most important one,
Speaker 3: and that is is what she did at crime? And
Speaker 3: the best answer I can give to what she has
Speaker 3: right there is we don't know yet. We don't know yet,
Speaker 3: but there needs to be an investigation. Yes, the long
Speaker 3: self requires knowing conduct, but we don't know. I mean
Speaker 3: the number of questions that have yet to be answered,
Speaker 3: and the frustrating part for me, and I'm sure it's
Speaker 3: for the listeners too. Is nobody in power seems to
Speaker 3: give a damn about getting answers to any of this stuff.
Speaker 2: Jeez, I wonder why what party.
Speaker 4: Is you from?
Speaker 3: I think it's the dam Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Georgia At this point, as I've talked about
Speaker 1: from the jump on this, I mean, there has to
Speaker 1: be a special prosecutor, right, I mean you can't have
Speaker 1: Phil Wiser investigating her. You can't have any other Democrat
Speaker 1: investigating her. And that's no reflection on any of those individuals,
Speaker 1: but simply for public confidence, you know, this can't appear
Speaker 1: to be political. You have to have a true independent
Speaker 1: prosecutor with the kind of forensic help that you need
Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of it.
Speaker 3: That's absolutely right, And you know it's not throwing stones
Speaker 3: to say what you said, because there are legitimate conflicts
Speaker 3: that exist that would not just the party affiliation. But
Speaker 3: the Attorney General represents the Secretary of State's office. When
Speaker 3: Jenna went to court and tried to keep Trump off
Speaker 3: the ballot, the person sitting at the table representing her
Speaker 3: from the AGS. So Phil can't really investigate her. But
Speaker 3: we do have a bit of a roadmap for this
Speaker 3: way back in two thousand and eight, there was a
Speaker 3: DA named John Newsom down in Opaso County, predecessor Dan May,
Speaker 3: and he ran into some trouble and needed to be
Speaker 3: investigated for how he appropriated certain funds. So Ritter appoints
Speaker 3: John Southers right quality AG, A great AG. So others says,
Speaker 3: hang on, I used to be John Newsom's boss. I
Speaker 3: can't do this. That looks like a conflict. So he
Speaker 3: turned around and then appointed two former district attorneys Al
Speaker 3: Dominga's at a Weld and stut Van Mevrin at a Larimer.
Speaker 3: So we already have a roadmap for how this worked.
Speaker 3: And if it requires the governor appointing the attorney general
Speaker 3: to appoint a former prosecutor, I just happen to know
Speaker 3: a couple, yes.
Speaker 1: And so, But George, I'm sure everybody listening is thinking
Speaker 1: the same thing. Is there any way we can make
Speaker 1: this happen? Whose desk is it.
Speaker 2: On right now? Who has the primary responsibility right now
Speaker 2: to make this happen?
Speaker 3: So glad you asked, this election law is clear and
Speaker 3: that it is the jurisdiction to cover election law. To
Speaker 3: protect our election laws falls between both the Attorney General
Speaker 3: and the district attorney. But here's what the statute says.
Speaker 3: If anybody, any person takes an affi David to the
Speaker 3: district Attorney's office, and the only relevant district attorney's office
Speaker 3: at this point would be Beth McCann's, Devers takes an
Speaker 3: affidavit identifying the person they think committed a violation of
Speaker 3: the election law and spells out the facts, then the
Speaker 3: DA must initiate. It says, shall initiate an investigation and
Speaker 3: where reasonable, pursue a prosecution. And that's the ticket right there.
Speaker 3: We can call on polls to do it, and he
Speaker 3: shouldn't want us to call on him. He should want
Speaker 3: to do this proactically because the problem is Dan. You've
Speaker 3: called him out, I've called him out. The other media
Speaker 3: has called him out. If they if they do it now,
Speaker 3: he looks like he's caving in. And we know one
Speaker 3: thing is true. The only person he gives into is
Speaker 3: Kim Kardashian. So until he called an as.
Speaker 1: Well said yeah, yeah, no, oh my lord, don't get
Speaker 1: me started on that. Perture So right, George Brockler, our
Speaker 1: guest candidate for DA in the twenty third George Brockler
Speaker 1: dot com. So, as a practical matter, George, does this
Speaker 1: person who walks into the DA's office respectfully and provides
Speaker 1: the required paperwork need to be a Denver resident?
Speaker 2: Nope, okay, No, The.
Speaker 3: Way the statue reads is any person.
Speaker 2: So can you get there before the end of the day.
Speaker 3: I can't. It's Halloween, So I've got them. I've got
Speaker 3: candy kid duties that I've got in front of me.
Speaker 3: But it doesn't mean we couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: But wait a second, the DA could do it on
Speaker 1: their own initiative obviously, right, which the DA should have
Speaker 1: already done.
Speaker 2: Now, maybe the DA has and we just don't know
Speaker 2: about it yet. But that has to happen.
Speaker 1: Jenna Griswold should be requesting it.
Speaker 3: She should be you're right, you're right. Anybody worth their
Speaker 3: salt in public office should be saying, hey, I don't
Speaker 3: want my fingerprints on this investigation. I want someone else
Speaker 3: to come in here and find where my fingerprints are
Speaker 3: and clear me of this so we could move forward.
Speaker 3: But everything she's done, Dan, and you've talked about this
Speaker 3: now for a couple of days. Everything she's done has
Speaker 3: been put Jenna first, put Colorado's election system. Second, how
Speaker 3: do you not tell the clerks?
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was just going to say.
Speaker 1: In great job by Kyle Clerk reporting on this, she reportedly,
Speaker 1: is this right? George did not tell the clerks for
Speaker 1: five days after this was discovered.
Speaker 3: That is correct. And the only reason she told the
Speaker 3: clerks was because Dave Williams and the g came out
Speaker 3: with the news and then she had to rush to
Speaker 3: tell the clerks. I mean, this is crazy.
Speaker 2: Why didn't she tell the clerks?
Speaker 3: Hijacked an investigation in Mesa County jump the investigations announced. Hey,
Speaker 3: by the way, a bunch of ballots were stolen and
Speaker 3: some of them swept through the system. That was premature
Speaker 3: because the investigation wasn't done. Now she says, well, we
Speaker 3: didn't tell anybody because we're investigating ourselves.
Speaker 1: What you know, what's ironic here is if there is
Speaker 1: not very soon announced some very high level, credible, independent investigation,
Speaker 1: it's the most profound indictment of these elected Democrats and
Speaker 1: Democratic Party in Colorado that we've seen probably in our lifetime.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of reason to criticize both, but
Speaker 1: this would be by far the worst because that would
Speaker 1: just be an admission at this point, right, that that
Speaker 1: politics before public interest, politics before you know the integrity
Speaker 1: of our electoral system.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it would be worst if.
Speaker 3: You're Phil Wiser. You want to be governor, right, and
Speaker 3: Jenna wants to be governor. So Phil says, look, I
Speaker 3: represent you. I will compete for the same thing. If
Speaker 3: this guy wanted credibility statewide, independent of party. This is
Speaker 3: a guy that could come forward and say we got
Speaker 3: to do this, and Jenna, you need to agree to this.
Speaker 3: The governor wants to be president, he should have gotten
Speaker 3: down in front of us and said, hey, dang party
Speaker 3: be damned, this is an election system we're talking about.
Speaker 1: You're right, my brother, that's what should have happened. It
Speaker 1: should have happened for all sorts of reasons. Can you
Speaker 1: stay through another segment, because what I want to submit
Speaker 1: to you on the other side, though, is I believe
Speaker 1: that is not happening now for political reasons. And George Brockler,
Speaker 1: I guess he'll come back on the other side. But
Speaker 1: as I was saying yesterday, my belief I can't prove it.
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure it's true. My belief is that
Speaker 1: the reason this story got launched in Kyle Clark did
Speaker 1: a tremendous job, no matter what the motives were. But listen,
Speaker 1: I think the left once Griswold gone and to the
Speaker 1: point before the governor's race starts next Wednesday, and.
Speaker 2: She is a very.
Speaker 1: Inconvenient truths as a candidate for governor, which is that
Speaker 1: the left talks this big game about diversity and enlightenment
Speaker 1: and everything else, but when it comes to doling out
Speaker 1: these big jobs like governor and senator, it's the white
Speaker 1: guys who get them, and it's usually the old white
Speaker 1: guys who get them. So the last thing they want
Speaker 1: is Jenna Griswold in that governor's race, reminding people that, hey,
Speaker 1: wait a second, what about women?
Speaker 2: You know, what about people of colors?
Speaker 1: So I think they want Jenna Griswold out of the way,
Speaker 1: and this story, it is the perfect way to do it.
Speaker 2: You're on the Dan Kapla.
Speaker 5: Show and now back to the Dan Taplas Show podcast right.
Speaker 6: Blond Sound CNN because it reminds me so much of
Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, And I think there are a lot of
Speaker 6: similarities right now between this campaign and that campaign. The
Speaker 6: divisions in the country were significant back then. People didn't
Speaker 6: think Trump had a chance back then, He's been gaining
Speaker 6: and gaining the momentum.
Speaker 2: I don't know who's gonna win. I can't call it, and.
Speaker 7: Nobody should because statistically and polling and.
Speaker 2: Focused books, it is way too close to call.
Speaker 7: However, the momentum is clearly in what I see, what
Speaker 7: I hear is in his favor, and so every word,
Speaker 7: every phrase, every misstep, every gaff matters as those last
Speaker 7: remaining persuadables make their decision. I don't believe in they
Speaker 7: undecided anymore.
Speaker 2: I don't believe there is undecided.
Speaker 1: So Franklin's hey, really happy to have George Brockler with us.
Speaker 1: George is a super prosecutor first in the eighteenth in
Speaker 1: a rapo about to be elected DA in the new
Speaker 1: twenty third, which is Douglas County. He has a tweet
Speaker 1: at this point which I think has probably been seen
Speaker 1: by is it two billion people at this point, George,
Speaker 1: this is some kind of new record, like four thousand,
Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty thousand.
Speaker 3: It's at four hundred and twenty thousand now impressions and
Speaker 3: then like tens of thousands of likes and retweets, And
Speaker 3: the crazy thing is it's a little insulting. All I
Speaker 3: did was quote the law. Like when I say things,
Speaker 3: it gets virtually no likes, but when I quote the law, bam,
Speaker 3: it just blows up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll quote for you what George posted that
Speaker 1: has all of these likes and views, obviously from all
Speaker 1: over the country. CRS one thirteen seven eight to two quote.
Speaker 1: Any person who knowingly publishes or causes to be published
Speaker 1: passwords ellipses relating to a voting system shall immediately have
Speaker 1: their authorized access revoked and is guilty of a Class
Speaker 1: five felony. Obviously, there's the knowingly requirement, but as George
Speaker 1: pointed out, hey, we need a full investigation done by
Speaker 1: an independent prosecutor to determine whether that occurred.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 3: That's right now, and isn't it weird. I've heard that
Speaker 3: this employee she blames some employee, and that this employee
Speaker 3: is no longer with the office. And I've heard people
Speaker 3: say he or she we don't know what's fired. Well,
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's true. Here's something else we
Speaker 3: know about the Dems in power and stay governed. They
Speaker 3: hide the bad things that happen in office by making
Speaker 3: these people sign these non disclosure drive government employees and
Speaker 3: give them severance pactes that happen ilegal. We don't know.
Speaker 3: We just can't. It should be legal. We can't know
Speaker 3: unless there's an independent investigation.
Speaker 1: Right, so we do not know if that happened here.
Speaker 1: But George, you had mentioned another statute. I believe that
Speaker 1: might apply here if I read this correctly. Is there
Speaker 1: another statute that more broadly just discusses and I'm paraphrasing,
Speaker 1: like official incompetence.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there's two. There's two other statutes that apply that,
Speaker 3: unlike Jenna's Law, were in existence for Tina Peters, and
Speaker 3: we're actually got convicted of why law and it's it's
Speaker 3: where you're it's a missing incompetence law, missing confidence law.
Speaker 3: Tina got convicted of something called second degree official misconduct,
Speaker 3: and that actually could apply here as well. And I'll
Speaker 3: tell you why. There's two things. And then there's an
Speaker 3: act full statute within the election law that's called violation
Speaker 3: of a duty, and that duty is defined by Jenna's
Speaker 3: Law because there's this pre am or the legislature set
Speaker 3: out in twenty twenty two, all the responsibilities that the
Speaker 3: Secretary of State's state has now in these new superpowers
Speaker 3: that they have, and she has clearly failed them, because
Speaker 3: one of them is to protect the election system and
Speaker 3: to follow the state and federal laws that are applicable
Speaker 3: to it. Now clearly she hasn't done that, and failing
Speaker 3: that duty, she signed up in my opinion, for that
Speaker 3: charge and the second degree official misconduct.
Speaker 1: So now the big question is will there be a
Speaker 1: special prosecutor, as there clearly needs to be, Which is
Speaker 1: not a conclusion that you or anybody else committed a crime.
Speaker 1: The point is simply that there are fair questions out
Speaker 1: there that have to be answered in the interest of
Speaker 1: public confidence in the system and in the interest of
Speaker 1: making sure nothing was compromised here. So I don't have
Speaker 1: the ability to know the answer to that. You need
Speaker 1: somebody with investigative powers, somebody with subpoena power if ness's
Speaker 1: through a grand jury, somebody with a forensic expert. So
Speaker 1: as people are driving down the street right now, George,
Speaker 1: you know, they're probably making Dennis a lot of money,
Speaker 1: just grinding their teeth together, thinking, OMG, the Left's going
Speaker 1: to be able to just sweep this under the carpet.
Speaker 1: There's not going to be any real investigation. If it
Speaker 1: was a Republican they already would have had the public hanging.
Speaker 1: So in the end, is there anything people listening can
Speaker 1: do to make sure that what should happen happens.
Speaker 3: What if everybody either send an email to because we
Speaker 3: know poll us response to two things Kim Kardashian and
Speaker 3: the other is a change dot org petition. Right, those
Speaker 3: have changed his mind on multiple criminal things. But I
Speaker 3: think I think what we need is just one one
Speaker 3: good person in that Denver area there to go in
Speaker 3: and swear out an affidavit using nothing more than Kyle
Speaker 3: Clark's interview and any of the number of articles that
Speaker 3: got reported. It's got Jenna's statements on it. That should
Speaker 3: be enough to launch an investigation. And when you say
Speaker 3: we know this would be different for Republican, we know
Speaker 3: it would be different because it happened. When Jenna saw
Speaker 3: something she thought was miss convict in Mesa, she swooped
Speaker 3: in and removed an elected official from her authority to
Speaker 3: oversee that election. We know that if a Republican clerk
Speaker 3: and recorder had posted passwords online, she would have rushed
Speaker 3: to MSNBC. She would have talked about protecting the system,
Speaker 3: she would have condemned that person and stripped them of
Speaker 3: their authority. But when she does it and Kyle Clark
Speaker 3: asks the common sense question, Hey, are you going to resign,
Speaker 3: She's like, absolutely not. Why all the heirs big sigh, Well,
Speaker 3: I thought perfectly, yeah, well the person that's taken over
Speaker 3: the election system.
Speaker 1: And let me shift out of legal analysis to politics
Speaker 1: for a second, which you also do so very well
Speaker 1: and did for years on your own show. First of all,
Speaker 1: I think Kyle Clark did spectacular work on this, and
Speaker 1: it was a good reminder of when we used to
Speaker 1: have multiple investigatives.
Speaker 2: Who did not appear to be just kind.
Speaker 1: Of activists for political party interest and they did great
Speaker 1: investigative reporting all the time, and every station had one,
Speaker 1: and it was a great service to this state and
Speaker 1: Kyle Clark. This one report was just a reminder of
Speaker 1: those golden days and how valuable it is. So full
Speaker 1: credit to Kyle Clark for all of that. Now, my
Speaker 1: own suspicion, of course, is that there's politics behind this,
Speaker 1: and that the left ones Jenna Griswold out of the
Speaker 1: way before this governor's race starts next Wednesday. So which
Speaker 1: deems do you expect to see in the governor's race.
Speaker 3: Well prior to this and depending upon how she weathers it,
Speaker 3: I would have said Jenna Griswold, Phil Wiser, and an
Speaker 3: outside chance at jo Nah Goose. And I say outside
Speaker 3: chance because if the Republicans maintained control of the House
Speaker 3: after Tuesday, and I expect that they will, even if
Speaker 3: it's a narrow majority, if they maintain it, then I
Speaker 3: think he looked strongly at jumping into the governor's race,
Speaker 3: and frankly, out of the three of them, I think
Speaker 3: Joe is probably the best. Keep him out of the tree.
Speaker 3: But if they take over the leadership of the House,
Speaker 3: we're talking about a kid who's I don't know how
Speaker 3: old is Jodah Gou's seventeen or something, but he's already
Speaker 3: the number four guy in that right here, likely to
Speaker 3: climb that ladder.
Speaker 1: And well thought of there, George, is you know better
Speaker 1: than I do. The music means done for today, A
Speaker 1: great work on this heading toward half a million views
Speaker 1: of that tweet. Thank you, George, Thanks for the time,
Speaker 1: good luck on Tuesday Halloween you as well.
Speaker 5: You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast, say good, tired.
Speaker 8: Of the negative arm mind, buy you dank Joyce and
Speaker 8: be in your mind for us to say, no, we
Speaker 8: are not going backwards.
Speaker 9: Are going.
Speaker 2: I'm scared. What happened to the joy? What happened to
Speaker 2: the joy?
Speaker 10: That was Hillary and Kamalo and a duet? Oh man,
Speaker 10: this is scary Halloween. Hey glad you are here. By
Speaker 10: the way, George Brockler started the show with us.
Speaker 1: If you missed it, you might want to pick up
Speaker 1: the podcast because we were doing a legal deep dive
Speaker 1: on the statutes might apply if in I underlying, if
Speaker 1: there are any crimes associated with Jenna Griswold's office releasing
Speaker 1: six hundred passwords to election equipment. Now, we have no
Speaker 1: reason to believe at this point that there was anything
Speaker 1: actually compromised in the end, but we can't know, and
Speaker 1: the people the state have to know. There has to
Speaker 1: be an independent prosecutor with forensic experts. There has to
Speaker 1: be a deep dive. We have to get the full
Speaker 1: truth public publishedly announced and provided in a way that
Speaker 1: people can analyze. We'll get into the Trump campaign and
Speaker 1: what it had to say to Griswold today, and of
Speaker 1: course we'll get to all the latest on the presidential
Speaker 1: Let's go first to Jim and Very you're on the
Speaker 1: Damn Kaplis Show.
Speaker 3: Welcome Jim Van, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 9: I think Donald Trump should make a campaign promise right
Speaker 9: now that if elected, he'd bring together both the Senate
Speaker 9: and the Congress with the mandate that they work together
Speaker 9: and craft a national abortion bill, thereby taking that issue
Speaker 9: off the table completely. What do you think I.
Speaker 2: Think he'd lose?
Speaker 3: You serious?
Speaker 9: Yeah, seventy Americans think there should be some agree with abortions,
Speaker 9: some some form of abortions.
Speaker 1: Well, I agree with you on that, but a good
Speaker 1: strong majority of Americans object to late term abortions for example.
Speaker 9: Right, That's that's what the Congress and the Senate is
Speaker 9: getting the get rid of those things.
Speaker 2: But the point is it belongs in the states. It belongs.
Speaker 9: Why do you say that when you can bring it
Speaker 9: before the Congress and the Senate and have them craft
Speaker 9: a bill.
Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I think you'd run into some
Speaker 1: real constantitutional issues with that to begin with.
Speaker 2: I mean, what would make that a matter.
Speaker 1: Of federal legislative jurisdiction instead of the right of the
Speaker 1: people of each state.
Speaker 9: A constitutional amendment. I think Americans are looking for that.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, listen, now we're shifting gears and talking about
Speaker 1: a constitutional amendment. And what I'd say on that is,
Speaker 1: as you know, you know what the process involves, and
Speaker 1: that it's there's no reason to believe that's going to
Speaker 1: happen in America right now. But Jim, all I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: and first I approach it from what my mom always
Speaker 1: taught me. I consider her a founder. I consider her
Speaker 1: a founder of the pro life movement after Row, and
Speaker 1: that is doing the right thing is always good politics.
Speaker 1: And so you start with what's the right thing to do,
Speaker 1: which is obviously protecting is a human life. But then
Speaker 1: you extended, okay, politically, my goodness, Jim. If if Donald
Speaker 1: Trump was to in some concrete way right now abandon
Speaker 1: the pro life position, and I don't like some of
Speaker 1: the things he said recently, but he's still obviously a
Speaker 1: million times better than Kamala Harrison the left, I he
Speaker 1: would lose the election because he needs a full throated, massive,
Speaker 1: energetic turnout from his base to win this election, and
Speaker 1: a big part of his base are committed pro lifers.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you something about we pro lifers, and
Speaker 1: you are probably one of well I don't know if
Speaker 1: you are, Jim, but pro lifers there's nothing in it
Speaker 1: for them other than the purity of the cause. And
Speaker 1: you are voting to save a life. And if all
Speaker 1: of a sudden it appears that your candidate is no
Speaker 1: better than the other side when it comes to saving lives,
Speaker 1: guess what, You're not going to vote for that person.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 9: I did not expect that take from you. I thought
Speaker 9: this would be some way to shut the left up.
Speaker 1: Well, but the respectfully, Jim, the idea, in my mind
Speaker 1: is not to shut the left up. The idea is
Speaker 1: to convince the American people that abortion is what it
Speaker 1: really is and that it shouldn't be permitted. So that
Speaker 1: that's that's I think what we need to do.
Speaker 9: But well, I don't know your position. I'm going to
Speaker 9: guess at it now. But there's got to be exceptions
Speaker 9: for the mother like that. You won't agree with that.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 1: My starting point is this, we have to start with
Speaker 1: the reality. This is an innocent human life. So that's
Speaker 1: just a scientific reality. That's not religion, that's not philosophy.
Speaker 1: That's the scientific reality. So now what you're really asking is, Okay,
Speaker 1: under what circumstances can we kill an innocent human life?
Speaker 1: And so my view is I want to protect every
Speaker 1: innocent human life. But if I have a chance to
Speaker 1: save the vast majority of innocent human lives as sooner
Speaker 1: on the way to saving them all, than I'd want.
Speaker 2: To do that.
Speaker 1: So obviously, politically, you know, whether you're talking individual states
Speaker 1: or whatever, there are almost always going to be exceptions,
Speaker 1: and and so I'm for saving every life as quickly
Speaker 1: as we can until we get to the day when
Speaker 1: we can.
Speaker 2: Save them all.
Speaker 9: I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jim, appreciate the call. Thank you for that. My friend.
Speaker 1: Listen, in terms of abortion, Hey, we're going to find
Speaker 1: out together Tuesday, right, We're going to find out together Tuesday.
Speaker 1: If there's a sleeper pro abortion vote, pro extreme position
Speaker 1: on abortion vote on Tuesday night, that's always a possibility
Speaker 1: that it's not showing up in the polls, it's going
Speaker 1: to be a far more powerful force, and that it
Speaker 1: will throw this whole analysis off.
Speaker 2: I recognize that's a possibility.
Speaker 1: I think I think exponentially greater possibility that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: is not only going to win, but win by a
Speaker 1: wider margin than expected for the reasons we've talked about
Speaker 1: before and will again, and in America right now, you know,
Speaker 1: other than the extremist, there is not an appetite. There
Speaker 1: is not an appetite for what the Jared polis Is
Speaker 1: and Michael Bennett's and John Hickenloopers and Joe Biden's and
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's want, which is, you got that healthy baby
Speaker 1: at nine months, seconds away from being delivered with a
Speaker 1: healthy mom, you can chop that baby up. No, there
Speaker 1: is not an appetite in America for that. And that's
Speaker 1: the monstrous extreme that the modern Democrat Credit Party is at.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think as you get into these
Speaker 1: polls and you see that the abortion spread not in
Speaker 1: all polls, but in many polls is not as big
Speaker 1: in Harris's favor as you might imagine. As more and
Speaker 1: more Americans are learning just how monstrous the Democratic Party
Speaker 1: position is on this, I want to get to some
Speaker 1: great text and sound as well.
Speaker 2: Interesting point by Texter Damn.
Speaker 1: Trump canceled Penn State via Ohio State because Penn State
Speaker 1: will be destroyed. Can't be Trump can't be seen supporting
Speaker 1: a loser. That's an interesting theory. Yeah, President Trump was
Speaker 1: supposed to be at the Penn State game Saturday, and
Speaker 1: he's going to be in Virginia now instead, going to
Speaker 1: have a couple of other rallies. If I had to bet,
Speaker 1: I would bet that he believes are in good state,
Speaker 1: good shape now in Pennsylvania because listen, he asked when
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania right, and that he's got a shot, maybe a
Speaker 1: shot in Virginia, et cetera.
Speaker 2: I thought another reason he.
Speaker 1: Might be passing on the Penn State game is not
Speaker 1: wanting to alienate Pennsylvania voters by causing a big traffic mass,
Speaker 1: by causing a big security mess at the stadium, because
Speaker 1: as you know, that can happen when somebody of his
Speaker 1: stature goes to a stadium.
Speaker 2: And I would still bet on that. But that is
Speaker 2: an interesting theory.
Speaker 1: What do you think of that, Ryan that because truly
Speaker 1: Ohio State will probably roll Penn State in that game.
Speaker 10: Well, it's only a three and a half point spread
Speaker 10: at the moment, and Penn State is a hang underdog.
Speaker 2: What did they know?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 10: I think I would still like that he would go
Speaker 10: to the game. It's such an important state pivotal. You
Speaker 10: got the most popular college football team in the state,
Speaker 10: the Nindy Lions. I think it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 10: And he's been hitting all the right notes lately. Dan
Speaker 10: with the McDonald's with the vest that you're wearing right
Speaker 10: now in the garbage, did you.
Speaker 1: Tweet that out and people can sell that, Dan Kaplack
Speaker 1: In my costume today, I've got my sanitation worker costume
Speaker 1: on and it's I think it's a good look.
Speaker 2: Makes me look a little well trimmer.
Speaker 5: That's what Trump suggests.
Speaker 2: I got some bodyo all o line, we're going to play.
Speaker 10: But he took his jacket off and just had the
Speaker 10: dress shirt, and I think that was.
Speaker 5: More comical look for him.
Speaker 1: Tremendous look. But yeah, no, that's interesting. But that's what
Speaker 1: encourages me so much. Ryan, among other things. We both
Speaker 1: know if Donald Trump thought he needed to be at
Speaker 1: that Penn State game to win Pennsylvania, he would be
Speaker 1: at that Penn State game. He's been all in on Pennsylvania.
Speaker 10: There's a couple of rescheduling things, and always for these
Speaker 10: last few days, listeners follow where the candidates go.
Speaker 5: He was in Albuquerque, New Mexico today.
Speaker 10: That's not supposed to be a swing state now either
Speaker 10: he's trying to bluff and act like it is. The
Speaker 10: last polling data shows him within four or five points,
Speaker 10: that's just outside the margin of error. But then he's
Speaker 10: rescheduled some Pennsylvania appearances for two in Michigan, including the
Speaker 10: last stop where he made the last stop up in
Speaker 10: twenty sixteen was my former hometown, Grand Rapids Mission, remember that,
Speaker 10: And that's where he's going to be Monday night.
Speaker 1: And his famous line when he showed up at that
Speaker 1: rally and it was early on election day, right, and
Speaker 1: he said, this doesn't feel like second place.
Speaker 2: And I know we need to hit this hard break.
Speaker 2: But a couple of things.
Speaker 1: We just start with the obvious, right, he knows he
Speaker 1: has to have Pennsylvania, right, So I think the fact
Speaker 1: he's not going to that penn State game tells me
Speaker 1: they think they have Pennsylvania. And I don't know how
Speaker 1: else you could possibly be unless again it's a concern
Speaker 1: about making enemies because his appearance would delay entry to
Speaker 1: the stadium, cause all sorts of traffic and security issues.
Speaker 1: But we have a lot more ground to cover when
Speaker 1: we come back. Just some of that instant classic sound
Speaker 1: and Trump's doing a great job of carrying out you know,
Speaker 1: the Biden labeling half the country as garbage, and Mark
Speaker 1: Cuban trying to trying to double down on that today
Speaker 1: but this time aimed at women. Will have that as well.
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you when you get back,
Speaker 1: something weird, not scary, but weird that happened to me
Speaker 1: this morning. Could never see it coming. You've probably never
Speaker 1: heard of it happening.
Speaker 2: Was it a ghost? You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5: And now back to the Dan Taplass Show podcast.
Speaker 11: Republicans have been registered voters in big, huge numbers. They
Speaker 11: have been gaining in party registration versus the Democrats in
Speaker 11: the swing states with party registration.
Speaker 5: We're talking Arizona.
Speaker 11: I think it's a five point they've expanded their lead
Speaker 11: from five points from where it was back in twenty twenty.
Speaker 11: How about Nevada, Big Republican registrations there, they liked.
Speaker 5: The early vote.
Speaker 11: How about North Carolina, big Republican registration games.
Speaker 5: How about Pennsylvania. We spoke about it before a few
Speaker 5: months ago.
Speaker 11: Big Republican party registration games versus from where they were
Speaker 11: four years ago. So Republicans are putting more Republicans in
Speaker 11: the electorate. The Democratic number versus the Republican number has shrunk.
Speaker 11: And so the bottom line is if Republicans win, come
Speaker 11: next week, Donald Trump wins comes next week, the signs
Speaker 11: all along will have been obvious. We would look at
Speaker 11: the right direction being very low, Joe Biden's approval rating
Speaker 11: being very low, and republic things really registering numbers.
Speaker 2: You can't say you weren't warned. And that's CNN. Glad
Speaker 2: you're here.
Speaker 1: Let me go to the phone lines, back to the text.
Speaker 1: And this really amazing time to be alive. Right, Obviously
Speaker 1: you're into this stuff. You're listening to a show like this,
Speaker 1: but there's never been a moment like this. I do
Speaker 1: don't want to throw this out here real quick. Do
Speaker 1: you think this was a ghost or is there some
Speaker 1: mechanical explanation. It's just something I never would have seen coming,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't even mention it if it wasn't for Halloween.
Speaker 1: But okay, so this morning I'm getting.
Speaker 2: Ready to leave.
Speaker 1: Every day I go to breakfast at snooze on my
Speaker 1: way into the office.
Speaker 2: It's just a.
Speaker 1: Great daily tradition. So I'm backing out of my parking space.
Speaker 1: Every time I put it in reverse, the trunk opens,
Speaker 1: because I have a hatchback right SUV. Every single time
Speaker 1: I put it into reverse, the trunk opens. Now I've
Speaker 1: got to leave to go down to Colorado Springs to
Speaker 1: visit a couple of great clients of mine. But every
Speaker 1: time I put it in reverse, the trunk opens. Happened
Speaker 1: nine straight times before I said I don't have time
Speaker 1: for this. I just put it in reverse, let the
Speaker 1: trunk open, backed it out, closed the trunk, and then
Speaker 1: didn't reverse.
Speaker 2: Again, just kept going straight.
Speaker 1: So Ryan on Halloween, is that a ghost having some
Speaker 1: fun or how do you otherwise explain that?
Speaker 10: The timing of it is what throws everything into question.
Speaker 10: I think any other day you're thinking it's some kind
Speaker 10: of what would you be thinking?
Speaker 5: It's so odd?
Speaker 2: I've never heard or seen.
Speaker 1: And I've had some very bad cars over the years,
Speaker 1: you know, cars that got pushed more than they got driven.
Speaker 2: But this is a really good car, as it would be.
Speaker 10: But every time you put in reverse that inside with
Speaker 10: the trunk, oh, it.
Speaker 2: Was Yeah, their connection was clear.
Speaker 10: That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, yeah, hard
Speaker 10: to explain.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then later in the day it stopped. So
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if it was just a ghost having
Speaker 1: some food.
Speaker 2: Jim in Denver. You're on the Dan Kapla show. You
Speaker 2: could be a friendly ghost.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, Jim, Dan, how are you doing.
Speaker 5: I'm living the.
Speaker 1: Dream, my friend. How about you? You ready for that
Speaker 1: big Trump victory? You got the champagne.
Speaker 4: I honestly think Kamala is going to pull it out. Wow,
Speaker 4: we'll see. I mean pretty much. It's a top you had, Harry.
Speaker 4: I think you had Harry Antono. I was that Harry.
Speaker 4: But he also put out another thing that said, fifteen
Speaker 4: out of the last sixteen elections, the candidate with the
Speaker 4: highest favorability rating one so and Kamala has that right now.
Speaker 1: Well, and the one way that didn't happen was twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen with Trump.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, who was up.
Speaker 1: Against much better candidate than Kamala Harris, Okay, okay.
Speaker 4: No, but I'm just saying you know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, nothing's guaranteed. We've said all along, right,
Speaker 1: there's one. Oh, yeah, you want to talk about something else,
Speaker 1: go for it.
Speaker 4: I do, and thank you. You know I'm a liberal Democrat.
Speaker 4: I listened to a lot of what Trump says, and
Speaker 4: I'm really alarmed at the things that I hear him
Speaker 4: saying that campaign stop after campaign stop. He's making the
Speaker 4: same reckless accusations that motivated the attack on the Congress
Speaker 4: four years ago. He's saying, you know that twenty twenty
Speaker 4: was stolen, and he's saying that the only way the
Speaker 4: Democrats can win is if there's is if they steal it.
Speaker 4: And he says they cheat, and they cheat, and they cheat,
Speaker 4: and I think he's sowing seeds. I mean, I can't
Speaker 4: believe he's doing this, after seeing the violence that the
Speaker 4: accusations caused last time, that he's throwing out the same
Speaker 4: seeds to his followers.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, to let me ask you this,
Speaker 2: my friend.
Speaker 1: If let's say, if in fact, an election was rigged,
Speaker 1: and you know, I've said repeatedly on the show, I've
Speaker 1: not seen proof to convince me that there was enough
Speaker 1: fraud to overturn the election, But if an election was rigged,
Speaker 1: you would agree that a candidate should be talking about
Speaker 1: that and should be saying, hey, the election was rigged
Speaker 1: and we need to make sure we have a clean election.
Speaker 1: You would not disagree with that right, I agree on
Speaker 1: and Donald Trump, I think truly believes to his cores
Speaker 1: that that election was stolen. And I think he truly
Speaker 1: believes that. Now, as you know, Jim, when we talk
Speaker 1: about different ways to rig an election, I think the
Speaker 1: media rigged that election by burying the Hunter Biden Joe
Speaker 1: Biden corruption story. And I think that's one way to
Speaker 1: rig an election, and I think the media did that. Hey,
Speaker 1: I don't want to cut you off. We have Wayne
Speaker 1: Williams coming up, the former Secretary of State at five
Speaker 1: six to talk about this big, big, big problem in
Speaker 1: the secretary of State's office. Jim hold On, we'd love
Speaker 1: to get you back later on the show and continue
Speaker 1: the conversation on The Dan Kapli Show.