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Fantastic show lined up for you, architected for this February

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chiming in wherever you're gonna be tuning in and chiming

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there in Quarterlane, and in particular David Parker, doctor David Parker,

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to you, DP. Appreciate you tuning in and being a

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Speaker 2: Without further ado, why don't we fired up the ESPN

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Speaker 1: Let's welcome in the architect.

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Speaker 2: Of the show, the Man behind the Glass, Ronald go

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three and Man Weaver to the show.

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Speaker 1: Was U, Ronnie? What's up?

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Speaker 5: Happy Thursday?

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Speaker 1: At everybody February twenty six creat Ronnie. There two more

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Speaker 5: February then and then SPRINGBALLA what happened to him?

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Speaker 2: Let's welcome in bread, always bringing the hammer hammertime show

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Speaker 1: Uh bred always bringing the hammer. How are you, buddy?

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He's always delving into the dat always delving into all

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Speaker 2: So we got some Parker Kingston updates from the Sali

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Parker Kingston, for those that don't know, was charged with

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first felony rate by a twenty year old woman down

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in Saint George and Washington County, and she states the

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assault happened February twenty third, in twenty twenty five at

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her apartment in Saint George. She reported it to police

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four days later at Saint George's Regional Hospital.

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Speaker 2: Kingston told police that everything that happened was consensual. Kingston

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was released on ten thousand dollars cash bail and a

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one hundred thousand dollars bond. He's also required to wear

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Speaker 1: Least sixty days.

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Speaker 2: His attorney also has raised concerns about court security. Following

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a previous hearing, the judge said the court will take

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steps to address security and decorum for future proceedings. BYU,

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is he a part of the BYU football team. So

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that's the most recent thing. There's also a report that

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came out earlier today regarding Title nine and how is

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it that Parker Kingston played last year from this happened

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in February. How is it that he was eligible to

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play when he was under investigation for.

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Speaker 1: Rape? How does this happen?

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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of people out there that are like,

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he shouldn't have been eligible, bau I knew about it

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all along, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: But this is the report, Okay.

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Speaker 2: The reason that the alleged assault, while it involved a

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university football player, did not happen at the university, which

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Speaker 1: A Latter Day Saints.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the alleged crime occurred in a private residence in

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Saint George, said S. Daniel Carter, the president of Safe

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Campus's LLC. There was therefore no requirement for any internal

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university reporting statistics, timely warning, or Title nine responses. If

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the alleged victim had the alleged excuse me all assault

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had happened on campus, it likely would have triggered a

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different response, including an alert to the community that an

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assault had occurred. But the Bayu Police Department was ultimately

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restricted by state law governing the sharing of information in

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an active investigation led by another agency. So by law,

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they couldn't report this, They could not expose information because

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there was an ongoing investigation. So the haters are going

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to say they still knew, they let it go and

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it in some way, shape or form with their sources,

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and that's okay. But for this report BYU's police department

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was ultimately restricted by state law governing the sharing of

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information in an active investigation led by another agency, and

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so BYU became aware of it on I believe it

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was WHATRAR February eleventh, and then took action dismissing him

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from school and obviously from the football team. That's the latest, guys,

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your reaction. I don't know who wants to chime at

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first Ronald the three man, we want you to start

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us off, and then Brett and then Ap.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look at an end of the day, been

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from everything that you just read, apologize got some of

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the sniffles. You gotta respect the law and a line

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of authority. It says in that last line, you know,

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led by another agency, can't share information. Now some people

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are gonna say, well, they pick and choose. That's your

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personal opinion. According to the state law, Bau police could not.

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And look, Brett can say this. As a student, Ape

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he can say this.

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Speaker 1: Ben.

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Speaker 5: You can even go back your time as a student.

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You get Amber alerts for certain things. You get obviously

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certain emails when things occur. Obviously you know during the

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time of last year on it. You know, before I graduate,

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before I was a student, never got anything in this

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regard about Parker, but I got other stuff that would happen.

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So I buy all of this. I buy that you

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know BYU was not allowed because when things have happened,

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whether it been able to report or whether where it's

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happened on campus, they've done their due diligence and going

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about it and doing that. So it's kind of like,

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you know, when someone you know in this pack breaks

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the ONA Code and it doesn't happen on campus, and

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you know, it goes about differently. It's kind of the

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same thing in that regard. But this is obviously, you know,

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a severe legal case. But that those are my thoughts

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on it. I'm not surprised that the defense wants to

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have this in person and having get over video I

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don't think strengthens your case. But all the evidence been

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that we wanted to know about, whether it's previous text

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message or the probable calls with that of how could

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this you know, they had enough to get them arrested.

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All of that's gonna come out, you know now within

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the next you know what, thirty to sixty days, so.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna know a lot more.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, buy all of this information, and good job

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on those that reported this. Because BYU was getting pressed

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by certain news outlets the police department on this. People

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wanted to know Ben why this hadn't happened they were

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trying to find and the reasoning was just given.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I want to add on to that like

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a big round of applause, shout out nod to all

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the people who do that this work. I couldn't do

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this work. I love why we get to do what

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we get to do, where we get to, for the

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most part, talk about things that are not as serious

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and give our outlandish opinions on things that don't matter.

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Speaker 1: This would be really hard for me.

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Speaker 6: So I'm so grateful for the individual who this is

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their career and they do the hard work and they

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get the hard facts. So shout out to them. When

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did POU police get involved. That's a big question that

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a lot of people have had BYU Police.

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Speaker 2: And when was Parker interviewed by We.

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Speaker 6: Did get an answer on when police was the BYU

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Police found out about it. They found out about it

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at the end of November, so the season.

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Speaker 1: Had already been going on at that point.

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Speaker 6: Season regular season was almost over at that point when

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BYU police found out. On November twenty fourth, the Saint

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George Police asked for help seizing a warrant to take

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Parker's phone. So it's not as though they found about

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it to this in the summer, and they just knew

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about it, they didn't do anything. A ton of information

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coming out of this article from the Salt Lake Tribune.

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Courtney Tanner doing great work over there, but that does

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help piece together another part of this timeline.

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Speaker 1: I believe.

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Speaker 6: In this we also get a definitive answer on when

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she went to the hospital, which I believe was four days,

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and we had some questions about when exactly. It looks

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like it was four days after the alleged incident that

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she made it to the hospital. So really great work

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by Courtney Tanner and everyone else who's covering this story.

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Speaker 1: This is one of those times where.

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Speaker 6: Like we don't really have a whole lot to speculate

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on or give opinions on or why this that or

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the other, because again in basketball and sports, like our

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opinion doesn't really matter.

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Speaker 1: This is oh yeah're right, you're right, you're right.

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Speaker 7: They will be playing this show in the court.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's true, this is true.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean we are our opinions matter in basketball

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and yeah, oh yeah yeah, oh yeah matter.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, But like we can't really give opinions on all

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of this because it doesn't even matter what the opinion is,

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so I'm really grateful for all these people who are

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doing the work and grateful to now have found out

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an exact timeline of when b what you police got involved.

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And to Ron's point, there are laws involved. It's not

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as though that BOYU had this information that they were

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hiding it. Even BYU police who did have the information

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at the end of November when the season was basically

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almost over.

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Speaker 1: At that point, they legally could not share it.

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Speaker 6: And I believe somewhere in here they also talk about

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how the Saint George Police they didn't want to make

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a big deal out of it because they didn't want

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the investigation to be interfered with, and so that's another

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reason behind it.

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Speaker 1: So good work by everyone involved.

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Speaker 5: Ben, I'm hopping back in here. I think it's safe

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to say, and this is based on the facts right

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in of November. They can be given information that Brett

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talked about. Parker was somewhere interviewed probably between March and November.

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the warrant for his phone, they wouldn't have been able

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to do that without probably maybe talking. So you have

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to think that Parker was probably interviewed during that time period.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'll give you I'll give you a few

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nuggets here. You know, I'm always intrigued about key players,

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sequencing of events, timelines. I think everybody wants timelines for

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what's going on and how it's going on. So this

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happened in February of twenty twenty five. Nothing really moved

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the whole lot until there was a new prosecuting attorney,

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a county attorney in Washington County that took over seven

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months ago. This probably came across his desk and he

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took it. He's like, okay, I'm evaluating it. And then

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an investigation seemingly like a more ardent, more aggressive, more

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I think invest from my purview, Okay, this is not

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an official statement. I'm just saying, like what I what

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I see in what I've kind of gathered. You know,

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the the the county attorney took over the new one, okay,

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about seven months ago. And then we find out that

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interviews took place in uh, you know, we don't we

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don't know exactly when, so, but we do know that

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BYU police was notified in November.

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Speaker 1: Correct, Okay, so.

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Speaker 2: I think there's there's it probably was around August that

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it really started to heat up in more investigation, and

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there's probably interviews at that time maybe, but Parker was

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reached out to, well, I want to find out that day.

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Speaker 1: When was he interviewed?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 2: When was he When did he get on the phone

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and say it was all consensual?

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Speaker 4: Because at that time with admission of.

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Speaker 2: Sexual activity, then because of that admission and him saying

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it was all consensual over the phone or what have

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you r in person, now they have a little bit

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more probable cause because it's like, oh, well, he did

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admit to sexual activity and.

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Speaker 6: That's also an honor code issue at that point whenever

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he admits to that one.

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Speaker 1: Percent, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I mean technically, I mean if if the Honor

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Code office was to find out and there there would

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be an issue there, right, and not everyone on their

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honor goes in to the honor codes, Like look, I

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just have to admit I didn't even talk to my bishop.

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I've had an honor infraction. How many people do you

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know that goes into the Houner Code? Like look, rather

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than going to my bishop about this, I'm going straight

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to the Honor Code. And I'd like to admit that

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I've infringed upon the hon code? Is that a standard?

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I don't know what percentage I would also, I don't

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want to make light of the situation, but I don't

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know he infringe on the honor Code with you know,

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in a consent you know anyway, anybody that has you know,

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infringed on the outerer code, I don't I don't know

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what percentage go to the Honor Code themselves anyway, So.

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Speaker 1: You know, the a couple of nuggets.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that I've I've actually discussed with

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a few people when when a prosecuting attorney is willing to.

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Speaker 1: Go it this aggressively.

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Speaker 2: Remember, look at all of the details of how aggressive

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they've they've been, right, you know, there's the arrest, the

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held without bail, you know, ten thousand dollars with bond,

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and sorry, you know bail, and then one hundred thousand

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dollars bond.

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Speaker 4: There's probably gonna be a.

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Speaker 2: Number of of of different aggressive allegations here, and and

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maybe that evidentiary threshold has been met per the prosecution

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for when I've been told, but I've also been told prosecutors,

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you know, like all resumes, we all want to have

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a good resume. Whenever we make a prediction, you know,

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we want to be batting a thousand. And you know,

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when you're a prosecute computer, you want to bat a thousand.

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You don't take things to court that you don't think

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you can at least get, you know, some sort of

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conviction on or some sort of an admission on. So

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you may have what what a case such as this

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that has multiple, multiple accusations and allegations, and it will

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scare the defendant in such a way that he admits

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to one of them. Does that make sense? Yep, so

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that he still bats a thousand, even though even.

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Speaker 1: If he's he pleads not guilty.

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Speaker 2: Right, there's gonna be something along the way that they

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can say, Okay, well, we're gonna scare you out of

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the living day because this is gonna cost you a

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lot of money. You know, you're you're you're gonna be

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in the limelight. You're gonna be upfront. I mean, we're

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gonna we're gonna expose X, Y.

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Speaker 1: And Z like it could I mean, are you kidding me?

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He's got arrested.

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Speaker 2: You're you're sitting there innocent until proven guilty. He's probably

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scared out of his mind, goes out and hires an attorney. Now,

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and and depending on the attorney, if are they a

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seasoned litigator, are they a seasoned defense attorney?

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Speaker 1: Attorney, they may or may.

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Speaker 2: Not feel comfortable going to court and fighting this, you know,

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And do you have the funds in order to to

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to to to pay? Does that make sense? So all

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I'm saying is like I've had a few discussions with

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people that I trust that know the proceedings of these events.

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I got a text today in fact, asking me said, hey,

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some prosecutors have a reputation for bringing these kinds of

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impossible to prove slash win cases and then try to

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scare the kid intopleting down to lesser charges.

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Speaker 4: I got this text earlier today. I'm not saying that's

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what's happening.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying there are those out there prosecutors that do it,

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that they force.

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Speaker 1: These kids, it's a scare tactic.

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Speaker 2: They plead down to a lesser charge, and they still

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bat a thousand in their prosecutions.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: Like I said, I believe foundationally, because I may be

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taking out of context here with what I'm talking about.

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May the truth be unferraled to the world and may

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justice be served, period, whatever it is. But I believe wholeheartedly,

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and I think the data backs me up on this.

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These situations of he said and she said, you can't

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prove consent and therefore you have to go through this

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process is legal process. It's unless you've got witnesses or

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DNA evidence, et cetera, or traumas or or what have you.

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Speaker 1: But even then it's like.

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Speaker 3: So does DNA prove consent? Though, no, it doesn't, You're right,

475
00:23:33,759 --> 00:23:37,559
It just proves if there was a happened which has

476
00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:38,640
already been admitted.

477
00:23:39,079 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 1: Ye. Yeah. And so.

478
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 2: Look, these are the this is the nature of the piece.

479
00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:47,880
You got to understand the system, the process is in place,

480
00:23:48,279 --> 00:23:52,880
and and uh, you know verywell could be that that

481
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,720
that Parker does you know that he's going to plea

482
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,000
to a lesser charge and he's convicted on that charge

483
00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:02,960
arch and he's gonna have to you know, take that

484
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:08,599
that that repercussion. Obviously he's he's out of BYU. You know,

485
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,799
he's he's ain't playing football at b YU and his

486
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:16,119
NFL career is definitely put ahole. So the question is

487
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,000
is Parker going to fight this tooth And then what

488
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:21,839
I'm most intrigued by, does he trust his attorney enough

489
00:24:21,839 --> 00:24:25,160
to go to court and have this be litigated in

490
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,440
the court of law for everybody to watch, because this

491
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,079
is what this is a high profile case in the

492
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,200
state of Utah. That's why I think his attorney has

493
00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:35,799
asked for security because there's gonna be a lot of

494
00:24:35,839 --> 00:24:39,400
eyes on this and people the public want to follow

495
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,720
this as we are. And and so with that being said,

496
00:24:45,759 --> 00:24:49,000
does his lawyer want to litigate it? And does Parker

497
00:24:49,079 --> 00:24:53,400
want to go on record? Does he want to get

498
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,880
up there in his own defense and fight tooth and

499
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,920
nail to prove his innocence and let the the courts,

500
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,319
the jury, and the court of public opinion chime in

501
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,759
on it. That's what I'm most intrigued by. Or does

502
00:25:07,799 --> 00:25:10,160
he just say, you know what, plead to the lesser charge.

503
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:14,200
Does that make sense that that's me's the story here?

504
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,799
So but like I said, I got that text this

505
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,599
morning from an individual that I trust, and I've had

506
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,720
other conversations with people that have gone actually through this process.

507
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:32,160
I have friends that have gone through this process that

508
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:38,119
were accused of a certain you know, there's a certain allegation, right,

509
00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:41,680
But there was like a rap sheet of like three four, five, six, seven,

510
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:44,920
eight other things, and you're looking at that list, right

511
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,400
of these lesser charges.

512
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:47,759
Speaker 1: They start with the rest of.

513
00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 2: One up here, and then they give you these lesser charges.

514
00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:51,680
Eventually you're like, you're scared out of your mind and

515
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,839
you just say, Okay, I'll plead to that, and that's

516
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,440
going to be on my record, and the prosecutor bats

517
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,319
a thousand because that's what ultimately he needs to do.

518
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,599
He's not going to bring like if he's he's not

519
00:26:01,759 --> 00:26:04,680
swinging the miss, she's not swinging the miss. If you're

520
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,359
a prosecutor, does that make sense? No one wants that, No, no,

521
00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:11,680
no they don't. They they got a bat pretty close

522
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,799
to a thousand. They don't want that on their record.

523
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 4: So anyway, those are kind of my thoughts on the matter.

524
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:17,799
Speaker 1: Right now.

525
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 2: Here's the latest with Parking. Some people are like, I

526
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,680
don't even want to hear about Parker Kingston. I don't

527
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,599
want you to touch on it. He's you know, they've

528
00:26:23,599 --> 00:26:27,839
already they've already assumed either that they assume he's guilty

529
00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:33,200
or they are very angry with him that he has

530
00:26:33,279 --> 00:26:39,039
brought uh dishonor to bring him young. University, the faith,

531
00:26:39,799 --> 00:26:43,400
the community. There's a lot of people that feel that

532
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,720
way because you were out and about transacting.

533
00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: Sex.

534
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,839
Speaker 2: That's what you were doing, right and in a you

535
00:26:50,839 --> 00:26:53,160
you can't go. You were infringing on the nor code

536
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:57,000
that you signed up for, right. I do believe in

537
00:26:57,079 --> 00:26:59,680
my opinion, and you guys can disagree with me. If

538
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,200
you are in a long term, committed relationship, you know

539
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:07,599
at b YU, and you fall short of the honor code,

540
00:27:08,279 --> 00:27:10,400
I feel like they're probably a little bit more grace

541
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:15,720
filled then if you're going about being frivolous, I don't know.

542
00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 4: I I think I would probably be if.

543
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,559
Speaker 2: I I don't know how they Ben Crittle will never

544
00:27:20,599 --> 00:27:21,279
be a bishop.

545
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 1: Who knows if I will? You know what I mean? Like,

546
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,279
I doubt it. You put you on your list by

547
00:27:25,279 --> 00:27:27,039
saying that, you know what, I will not be a bishop.

548
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 4: I would have to like but like you know, I'll

549
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,079
probably be a little.

550
00:27:31,759 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: Bit more grace filled.

551
00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, Like you're in a long term relationship,

552
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,599
you're trying to be monogamous, you're trying to be committed,

553
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:38,960
and you fell short.

554
00:27:39,039 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, what are we gonna do about that now?

555
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 1: Huh Pale? What are we what are we gonna do?

556
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,680
Set up safeguards? What are we doing? How? You know?

557
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 4: You gotta figure things out.

558
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,279
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

559
00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 2: The Honor Code I have a love hay relationship with

560
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,160
because I think you should be going out and working

561
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,200
out your own salvation with fear and trembling with your

562
00:27:59,279 --> 00:28:02,880
your your your your bishop's and you're the clergy that's

563
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,319
that's with you, rather than the the honor Code.

564
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,079
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

565
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,279
Speaker 2: The honor Code, which they don't know you. You know, they're

566
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:10,960
not in your community. They don't see you showing up

567
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,599
to church every week, you know what I mean?

568
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: Like I do think they if you are working with

569
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:17,680
a bishop, they have more grace.

570
00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:20,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh you should.

571
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:22,079
Speaker 2: But in times past, I don't know if that's been

572
00:28:22,079 --> 00:28:24,400
the case, it's been maybe a little bit more arbitrary

573
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,200
stock publicly stockating people, you know, it's like, you know,

574
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,680
publicly stockating people for like, you know, falling short of

575
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:32,480
the honor Code.

576
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: To me is not like that's not very christ Like.

577
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: Look at this center before you you know, past the

578
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:45,799
stones of dishonor.

579
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,279
Speaker 5: I'm jumping I think the reason why is you're seeing

580
00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:51,160
public figure. When you're a public figure, you have got

581
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,079
to lose in that squy Like I'm gonna be honest,

582
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,480
like I'm jumping in here, different story, difference there. I

583
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:57,559
don't want people to think it's the same thing, but

584
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,920
like you know, and unfortunately want it to happen this way.

585
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,480
Like I got called for dyeing my hair blonde, right,

586
00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:05,519
you know, the only reason you got you got called

587
00:29:05,559 --> 00:29:08,880
on No, I got called this is not a story,

588
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:11,720
And I got submitted to the Honor Code for having

589
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:14,680
blonde hair, right, And I'm not going to go into

590
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,480
the whole thing. The only reason why I got an

591
00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:18,759
article in the Tribune is because a Tributne reporter was

592
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:20,720
there and it asked me about it. When a group

593
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:23,079
of students, you know, didn't like maybe how the whole

594
00:29:23,119 --> 00:29:24,920
Honor Code thing was going down their narrative and things

595
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,440
might have been different. But my whole purpose that whatever

596
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,279
I was bringing up was I don't feel like I

597
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:31,400
was outside the rules, which I was, and I died blonde.

598
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,319
It was told to me that blonde is not a

599
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,839
natural hair color to me, which is really absurd. But

600
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,839
again a different conversation. But like that doesn't happen. You

601
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,119
normally don't get that opportunity as a student to say

602
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,200
that because you're not a public figure. But it's a

603
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,359
win or lose, right, like you get maybe special privileges

604
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,960
maybe sometimes as an athlete ban But on the opposite side,

605
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,440
when it is this high profile, look what the look

606
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:51,759
what the.

607
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:52,839
Speaker 1: Opposite side is of it is.

608
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,599
Speaker 5: So I don't know, but as someone that's gone there,

609
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,000
I've seen both sides of it of a person who's

610
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,960
willing to sit down and talk and those that don't.

611
00:30:01,319 --> 00:30:03,200
You know, like it really comes down to me in

612
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:06,119
any type of capacity, is the person's hard in hearing

613
00:30:06,119 --> 00:30:08,240
a person out. But I mean, at the end of

614
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,119
the day, you have to have the honor code there

615
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,160
because I'm not gonna snitch on anybody. But there are

616
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,920
those that I know that didn't give n f about

617
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,160
b Yu, that were mad about b Yu, that were

618
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,039
breaking the honor code constantly, and you know that never

619
00:30:20,119 --> 00:30:22,000
got I don't want to say their punishment, that's the

620
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:22,680
wrong word to say.

621
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: But there are other people that want an opportunity that didn't.

622
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 5: So it has to say Ben, like I give that

623
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,079
pushback of yes, you don't want people to be public

624
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,160
cast you know that word that you use, but it's

625
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,240
unfortunate cast to get it. But that's just that's unfortunately

626
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:37,559
how it is.

627
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:39,759
Speaker 1: If you're a public figure, but I don't see students.

628
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:40,880
You can't have it both ways.

629
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,079
Speaker 2: If if you're gonna use b YU, you're gonna get

630
00:30:44,279 --> 00:30:50,160
paid by corporate sponsors, there's gonna be a bigger repercussion

631
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:55,160
because you're utilizing that. You're you're a brand ambassador in

632
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,440
many ways, whether you like it or not.

633
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,079
Speaker 1: So I'm right there with you.

634
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:01,279
Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons why Roncamennenhall was so adamant

635
00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:05,880
about the flag bears, the student athletes being the flag

636
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,599
bears of the university and having a very high standard.

637
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,319
And many people looked at him and said, he's too

638
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:13,400
much of a mission president. It's too much of a

639
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,079
mission president. But like you also have to realize what

640
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,640
he was working under, and what environment he was working under,

641
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,799
and what leadership he was working under, and why he

642
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:26,960
took that stance because it was probably a little bit

643
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,400
more arbitrary, a little bit more linear. There does that

644
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,599
make sense? Like it was, you know in Lavelle's era.

645
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,319
I can tell you this much those that those student

646
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:39,319
athletes that infringe on the under code. I think Lavelle

647
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:40,960
was able to get out in front of it and

648
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:45,200
mentor and not just just not punish. It's not like

649
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,839
he wasn't punishing. He was, but he knows the kids

650
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,640
better than anybody. He's the head coach. And some people

651
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,200
are like, yeah, but like he cares about winning more

652
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,680
than then punishing. I'm like, yeah, I don't know about that, Lavelle. Lavelle,

653
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,640
that's I think that's false. I think it's completely false.

654
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,880
Levell was a very, very christ Like individual to the

655
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,920
thirteenth possible. I would trust Levell. I would want Leavell

656
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,440
judging me. In fact, if I if I send, I

657
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,200
want Lavell judge of because he's just a kind and

658
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,079
loving and accepting.

659
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,039
Speaker 4: And and christ Like. So that's what I'm looking for.

660
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:20,559
Speaker 7: Despite what a straight face on the sideline.

661
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:21,759
Speaker 1: Looks like he could be grumpy.

662
00:32:21,799 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: He's a grumpy curmudgeon sometimes on the side of his armful,

663
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,240
but like you get in front of him and he's

664
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,599
a he's very kind, very loving, And I got a

665
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,119
hug from him once and it was glorious.

666
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:32,759
Speaker 1: It was fantastic. I felt the love emanating, and that's

667
00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:33,720
what I experienced.

668
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: That's what we're gonna get with Christ at the end

669
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,319
of the other side, and you're gonna get the loving embrace.

670
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:39,400
So he's gonna saynd's a little disappointed in you for

671
00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:41,319
falling short bend, but I forgive you.

672
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 3: But a slightly off topic question, is Kalanie the first

673
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:48,720
kind looking head coach? Tweet hat at b Yu because

674
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,640
both Bronco and Lavell looked extremely grumpy on the side.

675
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: I mean, he looks angry as well, but he just.

676
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,839
Speaker 7: Has a nicer, resting face. It feels like nicer resting,

677
00:33:01,319 --> 00:33:02,240
like he doesn't.

678
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: Have as much of a I don't know, say nicer.

679
00:33:04,359 --> 00:33:07,440
I'd say less negative. I don't know that it's nice.

680
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: It doesn't look like a like a frown like you're angry,

681
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,400
you know.

682
00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:14,839
Speaker 6: I also think because of social media, we get more

683
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:19,759
opportunities to see fun Kalani, whereas again, and I think

684
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:23,759
generally is but AP's got me looking up like just

685
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,200
standard pictures on Google in my right, let's see this resting,

686
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,480
resting Kilanie face that he's talking about.

687
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:33,119
Speaker 5: Brett's right about social media, though, Ben, I mean, look,

688
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,359
Bronco was probably on that verge of where it was

689
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,640
right before it took off. But Kilane, we see him

690
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,119
with Jaron Hall, goes to score a touchdown, running down

691
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:41,119
with Jack and Mooney and Clapp.

692
00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: We see him dance every game. This is the thing.

693
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: Klanie is the type And granted I always look at

694
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,799
like organizational design and how things are set up, but

695
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:55,440
Glani is the type that will stop and talk to

696
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:56,440
you in the hallway.

697
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 4: I would say, I don't know if Lavell did.

698
00:33:59,119 --> 00:34:00,759
Speaker 2: I think Lavell probably did, but he did have a

699
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:04,640
resting kind of like a curmudgeon face sometimes uh Bronco.

700
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,159
He's very busy, very operational, very linear, and so he's

701
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:16,119
you know, he yeah he was not always happy, a

702
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:19,159
pretty happy person, but yeah, you're right, pretty very happy,

703
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,440
you know. So, I know we've got a lot of

704
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,480
directions in this particular segment. That's your nitty gritty, giving

705
00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:27,960
you some updates on the Parker Kingston situation and just

706
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,280
some commentary, some side uh some side notes. As a

707
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,760
pretty you know, we we can't really appine on a

708
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Speaker 1: Fan. I'm going back to my mission.

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some I want to put a chili chili sucker, a

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little palletta in my mouth with that chili spice on

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Speaker 1: Do you guys? Get you guys? Can you feel this? No?

739
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Speaker 3: It brings me back a little bit to my missions

740
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:16,960
because I wasn't Spanish speaking, but I did serve in

741
00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:20,079
Arizona down and I was I had a few areas

742
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:24,039
in downtown Glendale where it's a heavy Mexican population.

743
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Speaker 7: I've never ate so well.

744
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Speaker 1: In my life, to be honest. So good.

745
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Speaker 3: They've got some good Mexican food down there, so good man.

746
00:36:34,599 --> 00:36:36,199
Speaker 6: Yeah, it takes me back to my mission as well,

747
00:36:36,199 --> 00:36:39,000
because I got put into Spanish work as a joke.

748
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,039
Speaker 1: I don't think have I ever told this story? No,

749
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,519
So okay.

750
00:36:42,599 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 6: So my my mission president is Elder Wong of the

751
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,360
seventy Shout out to Elder one. Shout out to Elder

752
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,719
Wanog He at the time. So he's Chinese obviously from

753
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,039
Hong Kong. He doesn't like his English was good, like

754
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,599
basically sarcasm to him was like not didn't translate super well.

755
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:04,840
And so one time this was up in Vancouver, Canada,

756
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:06,920
and one time one of my friends, one of the

757
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,280
zone leaders, was like, hey, Elder Wong, Elder Hammer is

758
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,840
actually fluent in Spanish.

759
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:15,559
Speaker 1: And so Elder Wong comes to me.

760
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 6: So then Elder Updorf came to church and our wards,

761
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,400
then my mission president was there and he comes up

762
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,239
to me and he's like, hey, Elder Hammer, like I

763
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:23,840
heard you're fluent in Spanish.

764
00:37:24,119 --> 00:37:27,599
Speaker 1: And I was like, gosh, dang, Elder Davenport.

765
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 6: I'm like, well, I'm not gonna sit here and explain

766
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,760
to a general authority that one of his own leaders

767
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,599
was like making a joke and he's been living off

768
00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:37,800
a lie for a month. So I was like, yeah,

769
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,840
I took Spanish in high school. And he's like really,

770
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,760
and it's like, I mean yeah. But and he was

771
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,920
like okay, good he goes, next transfer.

772
00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:46,079
Speaker 1: Will move you.

773
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 6: We'll move you to Spanish work. I was like, okay, cool,

774
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,840
next transfer. I didn't get moved to Spanish work. However,

775
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,559
the transfer after that, I got moved to Spanish work.

776
00:37:54,559 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this, only one companion.

777
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 6: The whole time I was in Spanish work, spoke Spanish.

778
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,039
The other time I had a white guy. The other

779
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:06,920
time I had an incredible young man from Brazil. And

780
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,159
for those of you who think Portuguese and Spanish are

781
00:38:09,199 --> 00:38:10,960
the same thing, let me tell you it's not.

782
00:38:11,079 --> 00:38:12,039
Speaker 1: The same thing.

783
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 6: So I didn't train Spanish, I didn't speak Spanish, and

784
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,760
I didn't have Spanish speaking companions.

785
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: But I will tell you this, to Ape's point, I

786
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,639
ate incredible.

787
00:38:26,199 --> 00:38:31,079
Speaker 2: A joke turned into hey, look you got some great

788
00:38:31,079 --> 00:38:33,159
and riching experiences from that, did you not?

789
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 6: That is outlet finer's fire if I've ever oh, because

790
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,519
it's not. Look, I get that they don't teach you

791
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:41,320
the whole language and the MTC. I'm sure you can

792
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,239
speak to that. However, there's a big difference between your

793
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,119
whole leading up to your mission, you're thinking you're speaking English,

794
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,079
and your first six of the months in the mission

795
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:52,239
you are speaking English, and then six months in it's like, oh, hey,

796
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,159
by the way, you're speaking Spanish now. And another thing

797
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:57,519
that sucked was like I wasn't living and again, you

798
00:38:57,559 --> 00:38:59,719
probably could speak to this. I wasn't living in Mexico,

799
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:04,599
so I wasn't even fully immersed. I wasn't to learn

800
00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:06,719
it because everywhere the signs were everything. You know, like,

801
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:10,000
so you're just like kind of trying to force yourself

802
00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:12,679
to learn as you go. So, yeah, I learned Spanish

803
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,239
on my mission, all because of a practical, sarcastic joke

804
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,039
that I didn't want to own up to and just

805
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:19,320
say I did speak Spanish.

806
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: There's plenty of missionaris out there that like it, called

807
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,519
it English speaking and that, but they had taken two

808
00:39:23,559 --> 00:39:26,280
years of Spanish in high school and then they actually

809
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,239
transition because they want to, and then they learn the language.

810
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: It's it's a great blessing under them.

811
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Speaker 6: That was I got to see in Spanish my sophomore year,

812
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:36,960
and I don't think I took it after that.

813
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: So all right, let's get to our our polls and

814
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,119
our questions of the day. Uh coming out, I, like

815
00:39:43,159 --> 00:39:45,239
I said, we talked to Parker Kingston the first segment.

816
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,519
I do want to talk some Camp Killani now. Uh,

817
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,639
it's Thursday, right, which means we're a day away from

818
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:52,840
Camp Killani starting.

819
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,159
Speaker 1: Guys.

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00:39:53,599 --> 00:39:56,119
Speaker 2: Camp Killani is around the corner, and we've discussed kind

821
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:59,559
of the key storylines leading up to Camp Killan's twenty

822
00:39:59,639 --> 00:40:04,400
twenty kickoff. Is there one storyline in particular right now

823
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,360
that you're like most jazzed about most juiced about where

824
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,840
your eyes are being kind of you're casting your gaze

825
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,760
at that particular storyline right now, Ronnie, What do you

826
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:13,239
got for me?

827
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:13,639
Speaker 1: Yeah?

828
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 5: Look, I mean I've I've gotten chastised by the fans

829
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,599
on Twitter. I want to see who's who's starting right

830
00:40:19,599 --> 00:40:22,400
away at RB two, but I guess RB one because

831
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,880
I don't think he is gonna be going or does

832
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,039
he need to. That's my biggest thing. I know people

833
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:28,519
are gonna say QB two. I get it, that's obviously

834
00:40:28,599 --> 00:40:31,119
a given one because without bear but being the running

835
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,719
back to last year was obsolete, was non existent.

836
00:40:34,199 --> 00:40:35,599
Speaker 1: You know, if is healthy.

837
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,079
Speaker 5: I've heard that from many of guests, Tidy hearing that,

838
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:40,360
you know, oh with pressa Rex is not good, heard

839
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,760
that too. They It's just like, oh, Devon Neck is

840
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,480
coming to make a noise?

841
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:44,159
Speaker 1: Can I see it?

842
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,559
Speaker 5: Can I see it been from my own eyes? Can

843
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:48,760
I see somebody go do it? I think that's the

844
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,800
biggest thing that I'm looking forward to, because again I'm

845
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,679
being honest when I say this, And I think if

846
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:55,039
you would ask Kalani off record, he maybe even on record,

847
00:40:55,079 --> 00:40:57,639
he might say it. I think that position and that thing,

848
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,199
and RB two is wide open even with what in

849
00:41:01,199 --> 00:41:03,639
the pop Charcha bowl. I believe running back too is

850
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,800
up for grabs and nobody's locked in at that position.

851
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,679
Speaker 2: All right, what do you got for me? I dig it,

852
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,719
I dig it big time. What do you got for me? Brett,

853
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,480
I was wringing the hammer.

854
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: I think I've I've been riding this one. I think

855
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,440
I'm I I'm not as big on.

856
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 6: The quarterback two discussion as I think a lot of

857
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:27,320
people are. For me, it's it's it's the easy one.

858
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:31,599
I think it's wide receiver. I believe in the stable

859
00:41:31,639 --> 00:41:34,079
of horses in the backfield, even though I know I

860
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:37,440
rode the Who's RB two train harder than anybody over

861
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,159
the last six seven months. But I actually and I

862
00:41:41,159 --> 00:41:42,800
didn't think we would be saying this, But I have

863
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,360
bigger questions about the wide receiver position now than I

864
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,800
do about the running back position. To your point about Ron,

865
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,760
about Jodah, Vessa, de Mooney, Preston, Maybe Devon Ekka gets

866
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,599
in there, but at least I know there's a returning

867
00:41:55,599 --> 00:41:57,719
Big twelve player of the Year there, So like whatever

868
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,480
the depth looks like, cool, Who's ID receiver?

869
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: One on the seat.

870
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,199
Speaker 6: Is it Are you sure that it's Jojo? Are you

871
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,480
sure that it's Tiger Bachmer Because I'm not.

872
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,039
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now.

873
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,679
Speaker 6: The thing that makes me feel really good is man

874
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,360
the stable of horses that you brought in with this

875
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,920
recruiting class, and then you have guys like Reggie first

876
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,719
connect and other guys who maybe didn't play as much

877
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,880
as we would have liked last year. Maybe they have

878
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,039
something special. I think there's a ton of talent and

879
00:42:27,079 --> 00:42:30,280
a ton of potential. The receiver room is really raw.

880
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,239
I'm really excited to see who steps up and balls

881
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:34,519
out ap.

882
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,079
Speaker 3: I'm going to agree with Brett, but I'm gonna be

883
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:44,280
a little bit more specific. Tiger Bachmeer's the story for me.

884
00:42:45,519 --> 00:42:50,079
I think Tiger has a real opportunity. To me, so

885
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:54,000
Tiger is actually the first person that I've ever been

886
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:56,760
a part of an interview with was this last year,

887
00:42:57,519 --> 00:43:00,920
and to me, he's still the most impressive in we've

888
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,639
had since from a player. He was a really good interview.

889
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,320
I think he's got all the traits to be a

890
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,000
leader in that room.

891
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: I really do.

892
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,119
Speaker 7: This is his senior season.

893
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what kind of work he's been

894
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:20,599
putting in to separate himself the opportunities there. I think

895
00:43:20,639 --> 00:43:23,199
he got himself in the too deep last year on

896
00:43:23,599 --> 00:43:28,519
a pretty short notice coming in and now you've got

897
00:43:28,559 --> 00:43:30,920
some of the key guys from last year have cleared

898
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,400
out of the room. I think this is an opportunity

899
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,920
for Tiger. I think I think Jaron Pula has got

900
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,559
a real shot too, to be a first or second option,

901
00:43:41,079 --> 00:43:42,800
because that kid is talented.

902
00:43:43,159 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: He is really, really good.

903
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,639
Speaker 3: And in terms of Jojo, I know the coaches love

904
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,239
him because of his physical traits, but to me, if

905
00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:56,519
his mentality on the playing field doesn't change, I think

906
00:43:56,559 --> 00:43:59,599
he's going to be pushed out of the starting lineup

907
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,840
they do because for what I've seen is, yes, he

908
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,400
has traits, but at times it feels like the effort

909
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,840
was lacks the daisical and he wasn't.

910
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 7: Attacking every play.

911
00:44:12,039 --> 00:44:16,159
Speaker 3: And when you've got guys like a Tiger Bachmeyer, a

912
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:21,039
Jaron Puola, a Reggie Friskneck, Cody Hagan, all these all

913
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:23,960
these guys who have a lot of talent and are

914
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,880
putting in the work, it's hard for me to justify

915
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,559
saying that Jojo is a clear cut number one, or

916
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:30,880
even in the starting lineup.

917
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, these are the options here, guys Kibi two, Trayson

918
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,760
Boorgay versus Nik Watson number two.

919
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,639
Speaker 1: What will the defense look like under Kelly.

920
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: Papinga at the helm and at the helm and then

921
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,400
the new defensive back coaches Lewis Clark and Tomorrio Warren.

922
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,599
Speaker 1: What does that look like? How?

923
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:51,559
Speaker 2: How's that assimilating those players getting coached up, et cetera,

924
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,000
RB two, Shioni Moo versus jovester Mundi versus Presson Rex

925
00:44:55,079 --> 00:44:57,239
versus Devon Eka versus Logan Payne.

926
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,639
Speaker 4: Who steps up there? Who's going to be that guy

927
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,000
alone side l J.

928
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: Martin?

929
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:03,679
Speaker 2: What's going on in the wide receiver room? Who's the

930
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:04,559
wide receiver one?

931
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:05,639
Speaker 1: What is this? Uh?

932
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 2: Is this a by committee approach? What's the depth like?

933
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,320
Who are the playmakers? All that new offensive line transfers

934
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,400
in O line cohesion? When you you do have some

935
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,400
new faces there, who's going to be the starting offensive line?

936
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,320
And then, uh, I guess you know what? What would

937
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,519
be the other I'm gonna put out? You know, please

938
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:27,199
list any other storylines that you're intrigued by right now?

939
00:45:29,039 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: Those are the ones that I have on the list.

940
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 6: I think linebacker is interesting just because you know what

941
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,639
you have with Isaiah Glasker, the Kate Luave, Jake Clifton

942
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,119
convers Again, it's not like a question of like are

943
00:45:41,119 --> 00:45:43,280
they going to be good enough? It's just a question of, like,

944
00:45:43,679 --> 00:45:46,159
what do you have there with all the potential that's

945
00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:49,239
in that room, especially coming off of losing Jack Kelly

946
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:51,320
that is LBU.

947
00:45:51,039 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: Still in effect, Kadula, Jake Clifton, Uh, some new faces there.

948
00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:02,000
Isaiah Glasker is a leader, Sarah's supposed to be a leader, right,

949
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:02,840
those guys.

950
00:46:02,559 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 4: Are all coming back.

951
00:46:04,039 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 7: I'll just throwing a name to watch.

952
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:07,159
Speaker 1: I think he from Asiata's got a.

953
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:07,639
Speaker 7: Ton of talent.

954
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,639
Speaker 1: He does, He's he's very got a lot of potential

955
00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:10,960
on there.

956
00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:14,519
Speaker 6: That and let's be real, you had to go deeper

957
00:46:14,519 --> 00:46:17,360
into your linebacker room at points this year than maybe

958
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,320
you would have originally thought. So knowing that you have

959
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,719
guys like he from Asciata and Jake Clifton and and

960
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,440
just a deep linebacker room is awesome to see. Again,

961
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,280
it's just a question of, like, you have a lot

962
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,880
of talent there, who's gonna be the cream that rises

963
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:34,320
to the top.

964
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,079
Speaker 1: What other newcomers.

965
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: Like, out of the newcomers, who you most intrigued to

966
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,280
get eyes on in Camp Koalani I want to know about,

967
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,119
Like when you show up, right, it's like, all right,

968
00:46:45,199 --> 00:46:47,239
who am I looking for? Where's the number? You've looked

969
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:48,800
at the roster, You've looked at the number. You're like,

970
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,920
all right, who am I trying to find? To size

971
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:52,559
him up, to see how he runs, to see how

972
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:57,000
he cuts, to see how he uh his footwork, his speed,

973
00:46:57,039 --> 00:46:58,639
his agility, all that stuff.

974
00:46:58,519 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: I want to know about. Kyler Casper. Yeah, okay, so yeah,

975
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,760
you go back to your wide receiver SiGe. Yeah, he

976
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,199
feels like not mysterious.

977
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:11,199
Speaker 6: But again, when you're a BYU fan and you know,

978
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,559
oh my gosh, we're getting a guy from Oregon. Yes,

979
00:47:13,679 --> 00:47:17,039
you are a former four star whose dad won a Super.

980
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:18,519
Speaker 1: Bowl with the Broncos.

981
00:47:18,559 --> 00:47:20,559
Speaker 6: I want to say, was at one point the all

982
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:24,480
time leading receiver at the University of Iowa. So like

983
00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:28,119
it feels like externally there's a ton of potential there.

984
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,480
And if we're being frank, you need a big body

985
00:47:31,559 --> 00:47:35,800
possession with some high end speed to fill the Chase

986
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,480
Roberts spot. Because this is like the first sign in

987
00:47:38,519 --> 00:47:40,920
what feels like twenty years, you've played without a game

988
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:41,960
without Chase Roberts.

989
00:47:42,639 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 1: I'm really curious.

990
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,679
Speaker 6: To see what Kyler Casper looks like because the pushback is, well,

991
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,760
if he was that good, why didn't he play at Oregon?

992
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:54,119
Speaker 1: And I hear that, and I understand that. My pushback

993
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:54,519
to that.

994
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,119
Speaker 6: Would be, you do realize that Oregon is like basically

995
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,119
wide receiver speedster you it's hard to get playing time

996
00:48:02,159 --> 00:48:05,639
there unless you're going first round to the NFL. So

997
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,480
I'm I'm really curious to get a couple lies on

998
00:48:08,519 --> 00:48:12,320
a guy like Kyler Kasper, especially because the role of

999
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,679
wide receiver one opened up big time, no doubt about it.

1000
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:16,119
Speaker 1: I like it.

1001
00:48:16,159 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: API on who's the newcomer?

1002
00:48:20,119 --> 00:48:23,599
Speaker 3: I already mentioned Daron Pula, But I'm gonna shift. I

1003
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:25,760
I'm gonna admit it. I'm a lone peak homer, like,

1004
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,559
let's be real.

1005
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, but so now the question, Yeah, I was gonna say,

1006
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,719
there's a couple of loan peak I think is a

1007
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,719
huge one to watch.

1008
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,119
Speaker 3: I want to see if he can crack the two

1009
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:39,400
D as a freshman, because that kid, I don't I

1010
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,400
don't know if I can express how much insane talent

1011
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,480
it takes to go from four star defensive linemen to

1012
00:48:45,639 --> 00:48:49,559
also being a four star offensive lineman. I have it

1013
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,800
on pretty good authority that Loan Peak the defensive coaches

1014
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:58,119
were not necessarily happy when Bot said I'm switching the

1015
00:48:58,199 --> 00:49:01,239
offensive line, because they knew how good he was. And

1016
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,199
then he went on the offensive line and he was

1017
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,519
still a four star ninety four rated per two four

1018
00:49:06,639 --> 00:49:09,760
seven Sports recruit. I want to see what that guy

1019
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,039
can do.

1020
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: I like that a lot Ronald.

1021
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: Is there a guy you're trying to look out for

1022
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,480
as soon as we get there, you're trying to size

1023
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:19,920
him up, trying to see how big, how strong, how

1024
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,559
fast he is, how well he moves who you're looking

1025
00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:23,159
at and why?

1026
00:49:23,559 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, obviously the names that have been mentioned of, you know,

1027
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,239
the Pool and the Mula Talas de Eka. How about

1028
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:30,199
this one, though, Ben, and I think he's here, and

1029
00:49:30,199 --> 00:49:31,519
correct me if I'm wrong. If I don't have to

1030
00:49:31,519 --> 00:49:33,800
go back to the drawing board. But I want to

1031
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,440
see Braxton lindsay. I want to, you know, I want

1032
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,599
to size that guy out. Justin inner raved about them.

1033
00:49:40,639 --> 00:49:42,519
When I was able to get one of those final

1034
00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:44,480
interviews before they went to the Pop Tarts Bowl, Ben,

1035
00:49:44,599 --> 00:49:47,840
he was signed. Now he's over special teams obviously, but

1036
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,400
in that linebacker edge rusherroom, you look, you know, you

1037
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,719
with Nucy, you know, getting that surgery, not going to participate.

1038
00:49:54,119 --> 00:49:56,079
Who's going to be there, you know, along with the Hunter,

1039
00:49:56,159 --> 00:49:57,840
Klegainst the Silicon, who else is going to be there?

1040
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: Ben?

1041
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 5: So I want to see what Braxton Lindsay as a newcomer,

1042
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,719
because you need Depp at the linebacker.

1043
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,639
Speaker 1: Position, at the edge rodger position.

1044
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm gonna be looking at Devon Ek of course,

1045
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,079
and be looking at bout Mulatalo and me looking at

1046
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:12,880
the poola kid. But I think Braxton Lindsay's a guy

1047
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,079
that I want to look at because.

1048
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: Ben, you not.

1049
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 5: It's not every day you get a kid from Arkansas

1050
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,159
that's been recruited by Arkansas to come to BYU.

1051
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: I think that gets overlooked a little bit. Yeah.

1052
00:50:21,519 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 2: We chatted with Kelly papinga earlier this week and I

1053
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:26,079
was like, Hey, who stood out to you in the

1054
00:50:26,119 --> 00:50:28,599
off season? Who has stood out to you in the

1055
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:32,519
weight room, the strength and conditioning room. The first guy

1056
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:35,960
he said was actually kenn of Tanavasa. He said, Keanu

1057
00:50:36,039 --> 00:50:40,880
is a monster, monster, straight beast. So it'll be intriguing

1058
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,599
to see what type of jump Keanu makes. And I

1059
00:50:44,639 --> 00:50:46,199
know he's not a newcomer, but I'm just kind of

1060
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:48,679
going off of like what you know K Pop.

1061
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: Had mentioned about Van Johnson.

1062
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, Evan Johnson just flying, Yeah, Raiders, been really good athletically,

1063
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,159
and so you know, these are the tenured guys that

1064
00:51:01,199 --> 00:51:04,000
he's highlighting. Obviously we're talking newcomers here, but I just

1065
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,639
want to kind of just kind of level set for

1066
00:51:05,679 --> 00:51:07,719
a second with the guys that have looked good in

1067
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,039
the off season. Now, let me talk to you about

1068
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,679
the newcomers here. One of the acquisitions that needs to

1069
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,760
step up because we are thin at cornerback is Javon Williams.

1070
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,719
I want to see just how good we are at cornerback,

1071
00:51:22,159 --> 00:51:27,360
like we got to be. To me, that's a pain point,

1072
00:51:27,519 --> 00:51:30,920
right that we've taken for granted with Gennaro and some

1073
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,760
of the guys that have been coached by Gennaro. Okay,

1074
00:51:34,039 --> 00:51:36,480
so if my eyes are casting towards the defense, how

1075
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:37,599
good are we defensively?

1076
00:51:37,639 --> 00:51:39,159
Speaker 1: What does this look like under K Pop?

1077
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: Because we have had a pretty much stay good defense

1078
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,559
the last couple of years, and that's the biggest change

1079
00:51:43,559 --> 00:51:45,079
from a coaching staff standpoint.

1080
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,039
Speaker 1: So that to me, and you know, we lost.

1081
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 2: We've lost some good corners over the last couple of years,

1082
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,320
and we've we've continued to like trend in the right direction.

1083
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,679
So right now I'm looking at guys like Javin Williams

1084
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:07,079
who are P four proven and have to be good

1085
00:52:07,199 --> 00:52:09,920
enough to start at BYU. Coming from the SEC. You

1086
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:11,360
got to you better be good enough to start at

1087
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,400
b YU. I'm looking at improvement from Jonathan Kebeya need

1088
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,639
him obviously stepping up. Seth Schigg is another guy that

1089
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:19,199
they picked up in the portal. So you have two

1090
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,559
transfer portal cornerbacks, Seth Shig and Javin Williams. Seth from

1091
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,320
from Army and then Javin from Mississippi State. You have

1092
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:32,199
some some young bucks and Jordan Chris and then Kevin

1093
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:33,840
does a little bit of a project. I want to

1094
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,840
see how he's coming along. Cannon Devrees, uh and uh.

1095
00:52:38,039 --> 00:52:39,639
We already know what we kind of have with Evan

1096
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:41,119
Johnson and Trey Alexander.

1097
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:41,599
Speaker 1: Right.

1098
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,599
Speaker 2: Justice Braithwaite is another one six five pounds legacy player.

1099
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,880
So if you ask me, like, Okay, who do you

1100
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,599
want to see as are the newcomers, like I want

1101
00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:51,599
to see these young corners and see who and the

1102
00:52:51,639 --> 00:52:53,800
transfer portal corners and see if they can make an

1103
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:58,519
impact because traditionally BYU has one deep when they're lucky,

1104
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:01,719
they're too deep at corner when I don't know if

1105
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,159
they've ever been tried in true three deep at corner

1106
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,480
and nickel even last year, remember we'd have Nichols and

1107
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,360
so we had to move Tommy from safety over to

1108
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,760
nickel and he was hurt and he was hurt after

1109
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,440
you know, he got injured and just wasn't you know.

1110
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,920
He's gonna be playing free and strong this year, so

1111
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,440
you don't have to worry about it unless there's injuries again, right,

1112
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,679
But you know, Tommy's been working with Rob Daniel all

1113
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,480
all off season and he is his man. Cover is

1114
00:53:26,519 --> 00:53:28,360
going to be much improved and even what it was

1115
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:29,760
last year, and he was one of the I think

1116
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,400
the top five speechters on the team, so top three

1117
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,199
at times from what I've been told. So anyway, those

1118
00:53:36,199 --> 00:53:38,119
are the guys I'm looking at. Can't wait to see

1119
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:40,079
him and there's no wrong answer here.

1120
00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:40,679
Speaker 1: Chime in on it.

1121
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,360
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