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Speaker 6: Us long enough to get to the show that we
Speaker 6: were supposed to deep die for the Sid tribute, didn't it, Boss?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 3: You know what it took us exactly the right amount
Speaker 3: of time.
Speaker 6: Oh man, I love to hear that, and I'm sure
Speaker 6: the solar system would agree as we arrive on the
Speaker 6: February seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven edition of Monday Night Raw.
Speaker 6: Of course, the last time we were with you here
Speaker 6: in the Lapsed Fan Were Wrestling podcast breaking down a
Speaker 6: life in times of Sid. We were talking about how
Speaker 6: this night, the second time he captured the Wwfavueight title,
Speaker 6: was one of rejoicing for you because you had had
Speaker 6: enough of the man he defeats with a strap on
Speaker 6: this live edition of Raw, the ship Man.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, I was done with the Shipman. It was time.
Speaker 3: It was enough, was enough, it was time for a
Speaker 3: change to a borrow phrase.
Speaker 6: And so when we sat down to think about how
Speaker 6: we'd pay tribute to Sid when he passed away earlier
Speaker 6: this year, it was sort of a it was sort
Speaker 6: of a tough decision because there was no low hanging fruit.
Speaker 6: There was no show that was really you know, that
Speaker 6: really bespeaked his entire career. Sid, of course, passed way
Speaker 6: in August twenty sixth, at the age of sixty three.
Speaker 6: But hey, if his two world title wins in the
Speaker 6: WWF are representative of his high points, if it's what
Speaker 6: caused him to headline his second WrestleMania against the Undertaker
Speaker 6: of the only WrestleMania he defended the title, and then
Speaker 6: this is this is definitely not only going to have
Speaker 6: to do, but it turns out to be I don't
Speaker 6: know how you felt looking back at it, kind of
Speaker 6: a lovely show to go back and watch as they
Speaker 6: try to find a way to compete with Nitro.
Speaker 3: I absolutely loved this show. I thought it was so great.
Speaker 3: It was I will say I had I had watched
Speaker 3: it more recently, you know, back a couple of years
Speaker 3: ago on the network. But that time and this time
Speaker 3: it really it it It might my my memory wasn't tampered.
Speaker 3: My memory didn't feel tainted. My memory didn't I didn't
Speaker 3: say to myself, Man, I really remember that better, like
Speaker 3: it feels the same. It felt the same. I think
Speaker 3: this is one of the great e like it's in
Speaker 3: this period that I that I wasn't expecting to really
Speaker 3: love when I did go back and watch it, This
Speaker 3: ninety six to early ninety seven stuff that is just
Speaker 3: it's just outstanding. It's so easy to watch television and
Speaker 3: you get you want to see what happens next, even now.
Speaker 6: They don't do too much, they don't do too little.
Speaker 6: It's kind of like they go into a TV show
Speaker 6: with a mission and a game plan and it's not
Speaker 6: a meandering mess and it's not a formulaic it's like, well,
Speaker 6: we're going to see if this works this week. We're
Speaker 6: going to see if this works this week. And they
Speaker 6: were still taping in bulk at the time, so it's
Speaker 6: sort of like, we're going to try in the live
Speaker 6: show to get something really hot launched so that when
Speaker 6: we tape the next two weeks of raw or the
Speaker 6: next week of Raw and follow up on it, we
Speaker 6: hope it caught, because if it did, we're going in
Speaker 6: that direction anyway, which, of course, as we've learned over
Speaker 6: ten years of doing the show, that instills great discipline
Speaker 6: and a wrestling booker is knowing that you've got to
Speaker 6: put the shows in the can. So you better book
Speaker 6: hot angles. You better not get lazy and assume that
Speaker 6: just next week we have a chance to fix it
Speaker 6: because we're live again.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, that's I mean, that's it. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: and in many ways too, it's I mean, it's also
Speaker 3: you know, you're also forced to do what you have
Speaker 3: to do. You know, it's like, okay, you know, yes
Speaker 3: we did book this, but it's like having having shows
Speaker 3: in the can in many ways is better because it
Speaker 3: forces you to stay on a track at least for
Speaker 3: a month. Yeah, you know, as opposed to the booking
Speaker 3: on the fly mentality of changing up whatever happens week
Speaker 3: to week because you are live and nothing really matters.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, please, I don't think because like you know,
Speaker 3: they you know, as we've seen in the past, like
Speaker 3: this week to week booking and like changing things on
Speaker 3: the fly, and it's it was one of the most
Speaker 3: depressing parts.
Speaker 6: Of that of that post w CW purchase Adult rooms. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it really was, because you had all this correction going
Speaker 6: on based on nothing. But you know, Vince's last minute
Speaker 6: sort of whatever attitude, fucking little hissy fits he used
Speaker 6: to throw and that's not in service to the fan,
Speaker 6: and we all caught on pretty quickly that that's what
Speaker 6: was happening. Of course, a lot more discipline now in
Speaker 6: that category in WW. Ironically not so much in a
Speaker 6: W would appear in sometimes. But all that's to say
Speaker 6: that going back and watching this stuff really is really
Speaker 6: is wild because you're seeing them having to figure out
Speaker 6: what with the compliment of wrestlers that they have. I mean,
Speaker 6: this is before Steve Austin became somebody that you could
Speaker 6: bank on to sill out an arena. Before he was
Speaker 6: someone you could bank on to win you a Monday
Speaker 6: Night rating or even come close. But they didn't have
Speaker 6: anybody that was bankable in that way. In a lot
Speaker 6: of ways, I think that's why Sid ends up having
Speaker 6: a moment in the spotlight here is because he was
Speaker 6: just as well. There there was nobody that.
Speaker 3: I know as well as no one else, and who
Speaker 3: gives a shit? He was? He was, you know, he
Speaker 3: was Sid Hogan, Hulk Hogan two. Maybe he can be
Speaker 3: Hulk Hogan three.
Speaker 6: Maybe he can be Hollywood Hogan two. Because at this
Speaker 6: point over on TNT, Hollywood Hogan the nWo are reigning supreme,
Speaker 6: but Sid the second title win for him. Where do
Speaker 6: you remember this fitting in terms of your sense of Sid.
Speaker 6: We've talked a lot, including in this tribute, about that
Speaker 6: night in Madison Square Garden at Survivor's Series nineteen ninety
Speaker 6: six when he first won the strap off Shawn Michaels
Speaker 6: and all the all how that was all wrapped up
Speaker 6: and how the fans felt about Shawn's nineteen ninety six
Speaker 6: campaign at that point.
Speaker 3: Does this title win feel to you.
Speaker 6: Like definitely less important by a mile or is it
Speaker 6: kind of commensurate with the magnitude of that win when
Speaker 6: you think about Sid's career.
Speaker 3: No, I definitely think. I mean, I can tell you
Speaker 3: it felt as important at the time. I do think
Speaker 3: it's as important now. I've always I've always in kind
Speaker 3: of the like since late late late nineties until now.
Speaker 3: I mean not so much now when we started having
Speaker 3: long title title reigns again. But you know, one of
Speaker 3: the things that for me really solidified a guy who
Speaker 3: was thought of as being a champion in again late
Speaker 3: nineties through I don't know, maybe the last five years
Speaker 3: or something like that, is two title reigns. To me,
Speaker 3: you meant business if you won the title twice. If
Speaker 3: you won the title once, eh, you did it, Okay,
Speaker 3: it could have been a fluke, you know, you weren't
Speaker 3: relied upon to do it again. But when you won
Speaker 3: it twice, it means they said, you know what, let's
Speaker 3: go back to this guy. No matter what the reasons were,
Speaker 3: they went back to him. You know that to me,
Speaker 3: was always a sign of like, Okay, this guy, this
Speaker 3: guy's legit, this guy's a real main eventor yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: that's really and I stand by that. I stand by
Speaker 3: that with him.
Speaker 6: So often when they go back to somebody the second time,
Speaker 6: it is because something else just just ended up paling
Speaker 6: by comparison the next phase they thought they were moving
Speaker 6: into when they took the strap off, the guy just
Speaker 6: wasn't there. And the fact that, you know, considering all options,
Speaker 6: it's not some other direction that they take entirely knew,
Speaker 6: but in fact that they end up going back to
Speaker 6: somebody is a vote of confidence in a strange way.
Speaker 6: It's like a it's an endorsement of your staying power
Speaker 6: as in terms of being over, because you're still there
Speaker 6: and still a candidate even though you've lost it. And
Speaker 6: that's that's a great point and I think one that's
Speaker 6: always worth talking about when you think about that huge
Speaker 6: litmus test when a guy first wins the world title
Speaker 6: is when he comes out for the first time with
Speaker 6: the belt and when he walks through that curtain with
Speaker 6: a strap around his waist, does he feel like Ronnie
Speaker 6: Garvin or does he feel like Steve Austin, then I'd
Speaker 6: have to wrestle May fourteen.
Speaker 3: Exactly. Those are the twos a huge difference.
Speaker 6: And when you went it the second time, that's not
Speaker 6: the overwhelming energy of the title reign. That's not something
Speaker 6: that's on an albatross around your neck. You know, it's
Speaker 6: like you're walking out and you already can carry yourself
Speaker 6: as someone that's proven themselves as championship level because you've
Speaker 6: already wont it. So it's not like you're watching this
Speaker 6: person walk out with the belt for the first time.
Speaker 6: Like remember when Diesel came out on RAW nineteen ninety four,
Speaker 6: how hard it was to deal with. I mean, I
Speaker 6: know you're excited at home.
Speaker 3: I was. I was totally that with it.
Speaker 6: You watch it back now and those people are like,
Speaker 6: yeah really, yeah, wow, okay, and uh I think that
Speaker 6: the nineteen ninety five returns on Kevin Nash's WWF title
Speaker 6: reign bespeak that. But here second time, no, you know,
Speaker 6: I have to worry about that. That's not the messaging.
Speaker 6: And yeah, I guess the title win that puts him
Speaker 6: in the position to to main event WrestleMania instead of
Speaker 6: just you know, be the guy that Sean beating his
Speaker 6: hometown in a similarly sized stadium much bigger actually, but
Speaker 6: I mean similarly sized to wrestleming E eight. I guess
Speaker 6: it is just as big because of the position that
Speaker 6: puts sit in. And we were able to say when
Speaker 6: he passed away that he actually, you know, wrestled for
Speaker 6: the world title in a Mania main event against the
Speaker 6: Undertaker's part of Hundertaker's streak, you know, right, We wouldn't
Speaker 6: be able to say that if things didn't play out
Speaker 6: this way.
Speaker 3: As we've talked about.
Speaker 6: You know, it's pretty clear that the Michael's Heart Wrestling
Speaker 6: thirteen match was still on the table until he lost
Speaker 6: his smile a week before this show, and that is
Speaker 6: Shaun Michaels and gave up the title. And so suddenly
Speaker 6: the sid Undertaker match, which was clearly on the docket
Speaker 6: for the show just non title, ends up being the
Speaker 6: world title match, and Steve Austin gets plugged in. Instead
Speaker 6: of wrestling British Bulldog, he wrestles Brett Hart and pretty
Speaker 6: much the most transformative match WWF has ever done in
Speaker 6: terms of, like overnight, we're in business with Steve Austin
Speaker 6: and we're in business with Brett as a heel right
Speaker 6: to say nothing of how brilliant the matches sort of
Speaker 6: artistically move from move. So yeah, exactly, we're on the
Speaker 6: cusp of a lot of really important things that take
Speaker 6: a while to pay off. You know, we talked about this,
Speaker 6: of course when we did the ninety seven journey. As
Speaker 6: good as this TV might go back might be to
Speaker 6: go back and watch, you can't forget that it all
Speaker 6: landed with a dud in terms of competing with WCW
Speaker 6: at the time, right and Nitro had almost nothing going on.
Speaker 6: We'll talk about what happened on the February seventeenth Nitro
Speaker 6: as well. You want to talk to TLFX boss. How
Speaker 6: about a return of at this time in WCW for you, Hey,
Speaker 6: I'm down with that. That used to be a fun one,
Speaker 6: and it makes sense when you're looking at an addition
Speaker 6: of raw, which we rarely get the chance to do
Speaker 6: because you know, usually just one isolated raw is it's
Speaker 6: usually not momentous enough to justify a deep dive. There
Speaker 6: are some, and we've done several, but this is one
Speaker 6: that really is only I think on the docket like
Speaker 6: this for this close examination, because it makes sense for
Speaker 6: the sid tribute because we've already done Survivors Series ninety
Speaker 6: six in the archives, right and it ended up just
Speaker 6: taking on a life of its own, of course. But
Speaker 6: I think we'll start with a passage from The Observer
Speaker 6: where Meltzer I think, really puts into clear focus how
Speaker 6: crazy of a time period this was for the WWF.
Speaker 6: I mean, we're a week, we're a month out rather
Speaker 6: from WrestleMania, and no one has any fucking idea what's
Speaker 6: going on.
Speaker 3: Like the fan has crazy. I mean that must have.
Speaker 3: That must have been about it, like, yeah, you didn't
Speaker 3: really know. Like it's again, what what you saw at
Speaker 3: the rumble? None of that is none of that is here, right,
Speaker 3: you know, none of that's come to pass, And that's
Speaker 3: what's so wild about it. Yep.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was the most up in the air thing
Speaker 6: they've ever done. We talked about it last week. They
Speaker 6: go all the way up to that you know famous
Speaker 6: Raw where Brett shoves down Vince and said, this is bullshit.
Speaker 6: That's the week before Wrestling thirteen. That show, you know,
Speaker 6: a completely new look for Raw is basically the go
Speaker 6: home show for WrestleMania, and all the stuff is being
Speaker 6: decided on the night just so different than every other
Speaker 6: WrestleMania in terms of how they've built it up just
Speaker 6: about everyone. I'm sure there might be some exceptions to that,
Speaker 6: but here's how Meltzer put it. Despite performing in good
Speaker 6: matches most nights and great matches on the big shows,
Speaker 6: and more importantly from the top man position, howse show
Speaker 6: business with him is the key draw and headliner being
Speaker 6: the best in years. So the point being there, how
Speaker 6: show business was great under Shawn's champion compared to what
Speaker 6: he adherited, and he had good matches and great matches
Speaker 6: on big shows in the top man position. Everything he
Speaker 6: dreamed about being important on paper was going exactly according
Speaker 6: to plan, Meltzer writes about Shawn Michaels. But suddenly everyone
Speaker 6: focused on TV ratings. That must have been a kick
Speaker 6: in Shawn's ass, right, yep, Yeah, that's that's there's the
Speaker 6: big difference right there, TV ratings. I mean, Diesels out
Speaker 6: there floundering his champ, but nobody's talking about why isn't
Speaker 6: he beaten Nitro? No One that hadn't set in yet
Speaker 6: as a debate, and of course he had been the
Speaker 6: champion for what nine months before Nitro even launched, but
Speaker 6: it just wasn't. The TV rating of Monday Night wasn't
Speaker 6: a referendum on the title holder, and Sean I bet
Speaker 6: was plugged in to get the championship at a time
Speaker 6: that that still wasn't the prevailing mentality because Nitro hadn't
Speaker 6: edged so far ahead of WWF. That created kind of
Speaker 6: like an existential crisis for WWF. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: Sean gets the belt and now nobody cares that the
Speaker 6: houses are better under him than they were for the
Speaker 6: past what eighteen months. No one cares that the match
Speaker 6: quality and the title matches, the WWF title matches had
Speaker 6: just grown exponentially. It's not that nobody cares, it's just like,
Speaker 6: that's not that's not the thing that's determining the mood
Speaker 6: and the sense of how the company is doing, and
Speaker 6: that sense is what determines how well the champion is doing.
Speaker 3: It makes sense.
Speaker 6: So he's going to kick the balls, and what's even
Speaker 6: worse is it's two of his best friends kicking his
Speaker 6: ass on Nitro.
Speaker 3: I know, I you know, I think I don't think
Speaker 3: enough attention is put on that, you know, the idea
Speaker 3: that that that when he's doing his thing over in WWE,
Speaker 3: you know, and he's champion and he's not doing the
Speaker 3: you know, he's not hanging really with his own buddies
Speaker 3: over in Nitro, and ironically it's the guy that fucking
Speaker 3: tanked the company essentially. Yeah, you know, like that's what's
Speaker 3: always so funny. And I don't know, does he ever.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure he's been asked that and he yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, he blows it off as nah no for
Speaker 3: all of us.
Speaker 6: Well, Sean, it was always pretty uh open about like
Speaker 6: I'll leave tomorrow. Remember that thing where he was going
Speaker 6: to go to Nitro because he was in Hartford. He's
Speaker 6: like so pissed off night. I think it was the
Speaker 6: night he had the backstage fight with Brett where Brett
Speaker 6: pore out some of his hair and he like stormed
Speaker 6: out of the building. And people actually thought that by
Speaker 6: the time Nitro went off the air, he make it
Speaker 6: to the building and show up on their TV, and
Speaker 6: that he was pissed off enough to do it. And
Speaker 6: I feel like he actually literally threatened that at certain
Speaker 6: points during nineteen ninety seven. And this is the Sean
Speaker 6: we're observing here at play beginning to crest here in
Speaker 6: his second title reign and then the you know, the
Speaker 6: forfeiting the championship. But I mean, yeah, it was always
Speaker 6: it was a constant thing. There was that famous picture
Speaker 6: where he had an outsider's T shirt on while he
Speaker 6: was the top guy at w W. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: And it was this constant fear honestly that like it
Speaker 6: just made too much sense for him to join Kevin Ashann,
Speaker 6: Scott holland WCW, and to say nothing of Sean Waltman.
Speaker 6: That Yeah, I think a prevailing thing around Sewn in
Speaker 6: ninety seven was he could leave, and we can't afford
Speaker 6: to have him leave, just like Vince told himself he
Speaker 6: couldn't afford to have Brett leave him either. So yeah,
Speaker 6: he was very open about the fact that, you know, WCW,
Speaker 6: with his buddy's kicking his ass, really put him in
Speaker 6: a place of wanting to go with them, you know,
Speaker 6: but he just you know, when those moments of truth came,
Speaker 6: Vince was able to talk him into staying.
Speaker 3: Plus he had all these issues. You know, if you
Speaker 3: got to come there's actually you know, you know, listen,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, pal, I would be if you really
Speaker 3: wanted to go, I'd let you go, no problem. The
Speaker 3: problem is he should have done it a couple of
Speaker 3: weeks ago because because you know, I know this for
Speaker 3: a fact, because I you know, I've had conversations with
Speaker 3: with Turner about this, and he he doesn't like hiring
Speaker 3: talent who's lost their smile. Right, it's just a thing.
Speaker 3: I Listen, if you hadn't done that, I'm saying you'd
Speaker 3: have my blessing. But you can't now because you lost
Speaker 3: your damn smile.
Speaker 6: Ted, this is Vince McMahon. I'm leaving this message to
Speaker 6: let you know that my champion has a pill problem.
Speaker 6: So if you hire him, you're inheriting the pill problem.
Speaker 6: Pal and Ione has to tate to let shareholders know
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 3: Tell you Ted, Ted musick man, I just want to
Speaker 3: give your heads up and listen. You know you got
Speaker 3: to do what you got to do in the situation.
Speaker 3: But you know, free enterprise, Sean, Sean, what free enterprise is,
Speaker 3: what it is? Free enterprise? You know this is it's
Speaker 3: all about free enterprise and all about you know, listen,
Speaker 3: you know we're not in a you know, we're not
Speaker 3: in a battle to the death. We're here to to
Speaker 3: you know, have friendly competition, right, And I just want
Speaker 3: to say, you know, in good faith that if that
Speaker 3: my champion, Shawn Michaels, he's interested in in in maybe
Speaker 3: jumping to w c W and I've said it's totally fine,
Speaker 3: but I wanted to give you a heads up that
Speaker 3: if he comes out, he's got a major pill problem.
Speaker 3: Like we're talking, we're talking, he just takes a bottle
Speaker 3: of pills and he just chugs it down like like
Speaker 3: a like a glass of water. And and also I
Speaker 3: and I just want you to beware of this for
Speaker 3: your own personal You know, he he likes older men
Speaker 3: as well, and he's mentioned your name a number of times,
Speaker 3: and I don't know, you know, maybe that's your Listen,
Speaker 3: if you're into that, that's totally fine, but I know
Speaker 3: that you are married, and so he may. And when
Speaker 3: he sets a sight on a man that he wants, right,
Speaker 3: he's trying to get it. Take it for me, Pale.
Speaker 3: I mean, listen, we've all input in precarious situations. I'm
Speaker 3: just looking out for you, Pale. Don't get yourself. That
Speaker 3: was Shawn Michael's situation.
Speaker 6: We've had our difference as Pale. But I think in
Speaker 6: a lot of ways we're more alike than we are different,
Speaker 6: and it's a fellow titan of American industry. I just
Speaker 6: want you to know, Pale, that there are also unattended
Speaker 6: deaths and yet to be explained.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this also, Do you like you know?
Speaker 3: If if, if, that all is fine? I just you know,
Speaker 3: one more thing I just wanted to throw out there,
Speaker 3: because this is actually a fun thing. Do you like
Speaker 3: do you like hunting humans for sport? Right? Is that
Speaker 3: something you have to do? You like to do? You
Speaker 3: have to hunt men in the forest, because that's something
Speaker 3: that Shawn Michael's demands that he does on a weekly basis.
Speaker 3: He I am forced to. It's it's in his contract
Speaker 3: now and that I have to go out with him
Speaker 3: and hunt man in the woods. And it's just let
Speaker 3: me tell you, we're talking murder, and he'll right and
Speaker 3: he'll talk you into dark thinking, plane plane, cold blooded murder.
Speaker 6: So let me ask you, Pal, are you interested in
Speaker 6: luring away a murderer?
Speaker 3: Are you a murderer? Dead turner? That's correct? Can you
Speaker 3: be a murderer?
Speaker 6: I can't imagine why Shawn never went to WW, but
Speaker 6: everything he dreamed about being on paper was going exactly
Speaker 6: according to plan, but suddenly everyone focused on TV ratings,
Speaker 6: and suddenly he was a failures champion. He was the
Speaker 6: standard bearer, the quarterback of sorts on a team that
Speaker 6: people wrote was on a thirty three game losing streak,
Speaker 6: going downhill fast despite it really being the most successful
Speaker 6: it had been in years, and being a perfectionist to
Speaker 6: his craft in an imperfect world where others make mistakes often.
Speaker 6: His immaturity showed tricularly when his big buddies left him
Speaker 6: m one day before the match. The rules of the
Speaker 6: Final Four were amended to being Battle Royal Rules one
Speaker 6: day before Final Four the pay per view the night
Speaker 6: after this edition.
Speaker 3: Oh no, it was always Battle Royal rules. That was
Speaker 3: always the way. Are you sure that I'm I'm I mean, listen,
Speaker 3: I I because I remember them building it up as such.
Speaker 3: I remember that, I remember, and I didn't get the show.
Speaker 3: That I know. I did not get the show, but
Speaker 3: I remember them saying, you know, that was the kind
Speaker 3: of the uniqueness of the match, And to me, the
Speaker 3: selling point of the pay per view was that it
Speaker 3: was over the top rope. Plus it was yes pinfall
Speaker 3: or submission controversy.
Speaker 6: It is almost like a mini rumble, right, yep, Well
Speaker 6: that's what mals reading here. I'm not sure after a
Speaker 6: celebration that didn't really come off as.
Speaker 3: A very celebration the day before that it was for
Speaker 3: the title? Was that what it was for the title?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 6: True, Yeah, yeah, he had the impression. I guess that,
Speaker 6: you know, everyone expected to be pinneror submission.
Speaker 3: See, I don't think, well, I don't know. I mean
Speaker 3: I truly didn't, because they were talking about how it
Speaker 3: was going to be like, because all this should happen
Speaker 3: in the Royal Rumble, it was going to be a
Speaker 3: mini Royal Rumble. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that, you know, that was definitely the That
Speaker 6: was definitely the thrust of what they were presenting. I
Speaker 6: think probably in our final four show when we did
Speaker 6: it as part of our ninety seven journey, we got
Speaker 6: a little more granular on this question. But hopefully remember
Speaker 6: the Solar System will be able to pin down precisely
Speaker 6: what episode of TV they announced this, because you know,
Speaker 6: usually the contemporaneous stuff from Meltzer is pretty good. It's
Speaker 6: not like he's it's not like he's talking about some
Speaker 6: backstage thing he heard. It's like what he's observing just
Speaker 6: watching the TV. So so after a celebration that didn't
Speaker 6: really come off as very celebratory. He's talking about Brett
Speaker 6: winning the title at final four of the night before
Speaker 6: this Raw, Sid hit them ring and he and Heart
Speaker 6: did a stare down to build up the Raw match
Speaker 6: the next night as the show went off the air. Now,
Speaker 6: the Thursday Raw Thursday episode where Sean relinquishes the championship
Speaker 6: tearfully and steps away, that was to be Sid wrestling
Speaker 6: Sean in the main event of that show ended up
Speaker 6: being Sid and Steve Austin, as we talked about, did
Speaker 6: a two point three rating in a three point six
Speaker 6: share at the time. Now, that rating was higher than
Speaker 6: what the USA network usually did on Thursdays against strong
Speaker 6: NBC competition, I mean Thursday nights in nineteen ninety seven, friends, Seinfeld,
Speaker 6: I fuck you don't Yeah, you understand the chance must
Speaker 6: see TV. But it's basically a typical Raw for all
Speaker 6: this buzz or on Shawn's announcement, typical Raw, you know.
Speaker 6: But the nuance there is that even as recently as
Speaker 6: the Superstars before, the most devout watchers of WWFTV would
Speaker 6: have had no idea that Thursday Night Raw Thursday was
Speaker 6: going to open with Sean giving up the belt, so
Speaker 6: it wasn't like you could tune in knowing this is
Speaker 6: going to be a Newsy show. But him defending the
Speaker 6: title against Sid should have been enough of a draw
Speaker 6: that they didn't do this kind of relatively meandering rating
Speaker 6: for Thursday Raw Thursday. So that's kind of the plight
Speaker 6: of WWF that we keep talking about. In nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 6: Meltzer writes, in fact, this was hyped more than most
Speaker 6: clashed the champions in recent years, and was hyped on
Speaker 6: par with the pay per view show in the same
Speaker 6: week had advertised Sean v. Sid rematch on top. Yet
Speaker 6: the show did a rat that would be considered an
Speaker 6: absolute disaster had WCW pulled that number for a clash.
Speaker 6: It's amazing how quickly that those fortunes turn around. Me yep, yeap,
Speaker 6: it takes a year. It takes less than it ticks
Speaker 6: like eight months.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 6: Elsa does point out that they're channing for Sid and
Speaker 6: Lowell the whole time Sean is tearfully talking about stepping away.
Speaker 6: And what I found interesting is China and her book
Speaker 6: talked about how Rocky my Via beating Triple H for
Speaker 6: the title the Intercontinental title in the opening match of
Speaker 6: the show was basically like an audible that was called
Speaker 6: because of the concern that Sean dropping the belt and
Speaker 6: not wrestling for the title would leave a sour taste
Speaker 6: in fans' mouths and leave them kind of bluebald. So
Speaker 6: Vince was like, we need something big, we need something big,
Speaker 6: and so he had Triple H to lose the championship
Speaker 6: to Wow to rock For that reason, it was kind
Speaker 6: of abrupt Rockies title win. I do remember that it
Speaker 6: was a big part of the reason the Die Rocky
Speaker 6: Dye stuff started, because like he just I mean, he
Speaker 6: was doing well on television and winning matches, but it
Speaker 6: wasn't like anyone really was like getting behind him and
Speaker 6: you win the icy Strap after you get over, not
Speaker 6: before you get over, right, So that was that was
Speaker 6: rather abrupt, and and the way she frames it was,
Speaker 6: you know, she was she had met Triple H and
Speaker 6: they were working out, and she had met some of
Speaker 6: the WWF personnel when they had come through, like Blackjack
Speaker 6: Lands I think was the first kind of person she
Speaker 6: talked up in a hotel one time about maybe coming in,
Speaker 6: and Lanza kind of pawned her off on Sean and
Speaker 6: Triple H who happened to walk by at the time,
Speaker 6: and so they got to talking, and eventually, of course
Speaker 6: Triple Ah in China became workout partners and an item,
Speaker 6: and there was sort of like a bug in their
Speaker 6: ear at WWF that you know, there's this big bodybuilding
Speaker 6: woman out of Massachusetts trained by Killer Kowalski that wants
Speaker 6: to get in once again, In wants to get in
Speaker 6: and to hear China sort of frame it up in
Speaker 6: in Triple H two in his book, Vince didn't really
Speaker 6: see it. He didn't get the whole beat up guys
Speaker 6: at ringside, while Triple H's wrestling thing didn't really think
Speaker 6: there was much of a future, and having someone come
Speaker 6: in as Jack as she was beating up some of
Speaker 6: the guys on roster, I thought it would kind be
Speaker 6: a nightmare of convincing the guys to do it, which
Speaker 6: in the early days it seemed to kind of be.
Speaker 6: But what ends up happening according to China is that
Speaker 6: you know, Vince needs this not a favor from Triple Ah.
Speaker 6: I mean, he could have forced them to lose the belt.
Speaker 6: But the way he kind of sweetened that bitter pill
Speaker 6: is that you're going to lose the icy strap to Rocky,
Speaker 6: but we can also bring in that girl you keep
Speaker 6: talking about. Ah, and that's Vince, you know. Vince's when
Speaker 6: Vince is like, I don't think so, I don't think
Speaker 6: it'll work. In the back of his mind, he's like, Okay,
Speaker 6: I'll do that when I need something from this son
Speaker 6: of a bitch, you know, this piece of shit in
Speaker 6: front of me. I make them want it so bad.
Speaker 6: I want them. I want them to build it up
Speaker 6: in their head as something they can never have, that
Speaker 6: I'll never go for. But it's just it's just something
Speaker 6: he puts in the bank when he when he needs
Speaker 6: you to do some kind of bidding and and wants
Speaker 6: the pill to go down smoothly. So that's uh, that's
Speaker 6: a big part of the lead up to this show.
Speaker 6: Mark Merrow tore his acl I believe on this episode
Speaker 6: of the show. You know, Uh, during his match, he
Speaker 6: comes up limp.
Speaker 3: Well, is this is that? Yeah? I guess so yeah,
Speaker 3: is this so? This is when this thing happened.
Speaker 6: He had been hurt before. It wasn't like this was
Speaker 6: he was fine one day and he got hurt this day,
Speaker 6: but this was kind of like the one. This is
Speaker 6: the tweak that did it. And he was never as
Speaker 6: far as wild Man Mark Merrill. And what does that
Speaker 6: open the door for? That opens the door for Sable too.
Speaker 3: That's right step and you know, potential and honestly divorce
Speaker 3: and yeah, you know, and her being much more important
Speaker 3: than he ever will be.
Speaker 6: And this is also the Steve Austin knee brace Sarah,
Speaker 6: because his h his knee injury was concurrent with Marks
Speaker 6: in some ways. He had a partial tear of his
Speaker 6: PCL and was said to at the time of this
Speaker 6: episode of Rough Every seventeenth be out of action until WrestleMania,
Speaker 6: And it wasn't even sure as of a month out
Speaker 6: if Steve Austin could even work WrestleMania. Do you imagine
Speaker 6: if he didn't make the show? Ah, a fucking different
Speaker 6: world we'd be in right now.
Speaker 3: I mean it would come to be shit. Yep.
Speaker 6: I knew he came in work. I mean he came
Speaker 6: in limping. And that's part of why there's such heat
Speaker 6: when Brett attacks him with the chair and the knee
Speaker 6: after the match, and why the Sharpshooter was so much
Speaker 6: more devastating because he had knee injury, and they worked
Speaker 6: around that, and they worked too towards that, and I'm
Speaker 6: sure part of the reason it was a submission match, honestly,
Speaker 6: part of the reason they incorporated so much brawling. You know,
Speaker 6: Steve and how crazy he gets about right now being
Speaker 6: able to put on a great match, I'm sure he
Speaker 6: was all about switching it up so that they could
Speaker 6: do more brawling and chair shots and things that didn't
Speaker 6: require him to push up off that knee in a
Speaker 6: highly athletic event. So that's that's all in the sauce
Speaker 6: around this at this point in time.
Speaker 3: I mean, because you know, honestly, I'm sure he favored
Speaker 3: I'm sure he favors any match he had with fucking
Speaker 3: Savio Vego over his Brett Hart. Yeah, we've talked about that.
Speaker 6: So, according to Meltzer, both Steve Boston and Mark Merow
Speaker 6: went to the doctor after this episode of Raw, just
Speaker 6: before they were scheduled to leave for Germany. Remember that
Speaker 6: Germany Raw taping from Berlin is still to air, where
Speaker 6: Davy Boy wins the first European title in the tournament
Speaker 6: over Owen and we talked about that last time when
Speaker 6: we were kind of bridging the gap to get to
Speaker 6: Wrestlming in thirteen. In Sid's title reign, that episode of
Speaker 6: Raw happens from Berlin and the next one they come
Speaker 6: back is live and it's uh the first Raw is War.
Speaker 6: All of a sudden, with that new entrance in that
Speaker 6: new uh new video package at the beginning, I'm at
Speaker 6: Johnson was also all.
Speaker 3: This stuff, just like, you know, I missed a bunch
Speaker 3: of these raws. I don't know why I missed them,
Speaker 3: but I just I didn't see after this one. I like,
Speaker 3: I didn't see the one in Germany. Yep, I didn't
Speaker 3: see the one up you know that happened before Wrestling
Speaker 3: at thirteen, the go home show, so much of it
Speaker 3: I missed. And then all of a sudden, I started
Speaker 3: washing again after WrestleMania, and it's like Raw is War?
Speaker 3: What I know still say fine? Well these years later,
Speaker 3: let alone at the time, I mean, it's just like
Speaker 3: but but even just that, not even the confusing of that,
Speaker 3: but more like the show changing, the whole format changing.
Speaker 3: I was like, what what the fuck is going on here?
Speaker 3: What right? What happened? What is this big giant screen. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's one thing about this raw and Sid winning
Speaker 6: the title, it's it's still like, you know, the bright
Speaker 6: blue apron. They kept the blue apron in the first
Speaker 6: few raws Wars, but the entrance way is still just that,
Speaker 6: you know, dressed down kind of modest thing. And the
Speaker 6: next week they do the fucking crazy ass ECW Invasion
Speaker 6: RAW at the Manhattan Center.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yeah, I see that. Although that one
Speaker 3: I think I did. I did see, Yeah, I did.
Speaker 3: I think is that did Is that the one where
Speaker 3: the ld comes back? Yes, that's like the first thing
Speaker 3: on the show, yep, I've seen that. Yeah, I definitely
Speaker 3: saw that one, and it was I think. I don't
Speaker 3: think I knew what the fucking ECW Invasion was though
Speaker 3: at the time. I don't think. I like, I remember that.
Speaker 3: The only I remember is the lod coming back. Yeah. Huge.
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Speaker 6: MJP soro in undertaking Farruk I think was the main event,
Speaker 6: and Ken Shamrock was there for the first time, uh
Speaker 6: doing an interview in the crowd and then he got
Speaker 6: involved in something physical. Uh Taz wrestled on the show.
Speaker 6: I remember they had I think the eliminators where the
Speaker 6: Raven showed up, Saboo jumped off the r on the
Speaker 6: Raw ri a W set. It was all kinds of
Speaker 6: crazy shiites, like what the fuck is going on? Like
Speaker 6: because it's not that it happened, it's that all the
Speaker 6: this is the next week, like this this Raw isn't
Speaker 6: crazy enough. The next one is fucking DC and we're
Speaker 6: three weeks out from wrestle Mania, Like this is the
Speaker 6: kind of thing you do after Mania to get interest
Speaker 6: in the off season.
Speaker 3: And there's no right and there's no you know. That's
Speaker 3: what there was. So the focus was completely schizophrenic. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was nuts.
Speaker 6: It was like because they were just trying anything. Anything
Speaker 6: was fair game to see if it worked. At this point,
Speaker 6: and we see a fair amount of hype during this
Speaker 6: episode of Raw. For that one Paul Hayman phones in
Speaker 6: and has an argument over the telephone with Jerry Lawler,
Speaker 6: setting that whole heat up. And let's not forget what's
Speaker 6: coming up right around the time of WrestleMania is ECW's
Speaker 6: first pay per view barely legal, So that's part of
Speaker 6: why there was so much co promotion thing because ECW
Speaker 6: is really keen to get on WWAFTV to tell people
Speaker 6: that they had the first pay per view coming up,
Speaker 6: and there was no shortage of a promotion for that.
Speaker 6: When ECW got wwa fair time, but just the weirdest time.
Speaker 6: You can never imagine being a WW fan how controlled listen.
Speaker 3: It was weird, But I did love it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, I loved it. It was like
Speaker 3: because it was different for the first time, everything felt different.
Speaker 3: It wasn't just the stait I was used to, you know,
Speaker 3: everything was changing and I love that.
Speaker 6: So Feby seventeenth, the first live had to head two
Speaker 6: hour week. This is also this episode where Sid wins
Speaker 6: the belt the first two hour raw, and that's significant
Speaker 6: because they play it out as we as we telegraph
Speaker 6: last week. They formatted out to where you know you're
Speaker 6: gonna get Sid and Brett for the title, but you
Speaker 6: don't know when, and they pretend it's going to open
Speaker 6: the show and it comes out and then Steve Austin
Speaker 6: fucking attacks everybody.
Speaker 3: So they can't do it, then, Jenny, I think this
Speaker 3: is a brilliant it's a brilliant ratings ploy.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, we'll see, we'll see if it worked. I'll
Speaker 6: give you one guess. No, top of the hour, they
Speaker 6: tried again and something else happens. Well, well, of course,
Speaker 6: deep dive it all and then at the end it
Speaker 6: finally does happen. But that's you know, that's how you
Speaker 6: write a TV show, your first two hour Raw, that's
Speaker 6: how you write it right when you're worried that will
Speaker 6: people stick with us for the one hour? It's always
Speaker 6: been what do we need to do to keep people
Speaker 6: on the hook based on the biggest attraction we think
Speaker 6: we have on the show, which is this this title
Speaker 6: match and of course indeed the first ever WWF title
Speaker 6: change on Monday Night Raw and one of the few
Speaker 6: that's ever happened. So yeah, they're going ahadhead against Nitro.
Speaker 6: There's no more of this, Like one one show is
Speaker 6: on an hour, the other show isn't you know, there's
Speaker 6: no eight to nine and then nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: No, pardon me, what was it?
Speaker 6: It was nine to ten and then Nitro was on
Speaker 6: nine to eleven or something like that. Because they had
Speaker 6: already changed something something.
Speaker 3: With Nitro already. I found eight Nitro was eight to
Speaker 3: ten to ten, thank yeah. Then Raw was nine to ten,
Speaker 3: nine to ten. I'd always watched Nitro. I watched the
Speaker 3: first hour of Nitro and then I'd switch over. Yeah, yep.
Speaker 6: And then they moved Nitro to nine, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: and then they did eight fifty seven for a while.
Speaker 3: Yeh, fighting for two minutes. We'll talk about that in
Speaker 3: a second.
Speaker 6: But no, this februs seventeenth, nine ninety seven head to
Speaker 6: head show Nitro two point ninety six, Raw two point
Speaker 6: zero eight.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 6: That's that's that's not as far of a gap as
Speaker 6: you were a custom is seeing. You know, there's clearly
Speaker 6: a difference there in in WWF trying extra hard, but
Speaker 6: I mean if you do a show like this, and
Speaker 6: if when I read off what happened on Nitro, it's
Speaker 6: like God, I would be so dispirited. You know that
Speaker 6: we can't even close.
Speaker 3: We can't.
Speaker 6: They're almost at a three and we're just at a two,
Speaker 6: and we fucking brought all the big guns out. You know,
Speaker 6: we did as much as we can do. Yep, Meltzer
Speaker 6: wrote Feby seventeenth was really strange from a ratings perspective.
Speaker 6: W CW held a two point five to two point
Speaker 6: two lead off the blocks, with Ray Mysterio Junior versus
Speaker 6: Super Colow opposing the first tease of the Bart Harbert
Speaker 6: SID title match. So w CW beat the first Brett
Speaker 6: Sid T's with Ray Misterios.
Speaker 3: Just wow, that's pathetic. Yeah, it's not against Ray, but
Speaker 3: super super Clown whatever. Super Clown.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's another guy that's actually a wrestler, you know,
Speaker 6: Triple A. That's pretty funny. Actually, Psycho Clown is another one.
Speaker 6: Speaking of SID, Oh my god, and speaking of Halloween,
Speaker 6: it's scary movie season. Can we stop with the serendipity here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, But I mean that was it because that's how
Speaker 6: hot WW was, man, because we've talked about this endlessly.
Speaker 6: It's not just what's in the ring, it's in all
Speaker 6: going to show up, right, because they'd show up it,
Speaker 6: you know, matches. You wouldn't think they'd have any business
Speaker 6: showing up in. Or something would happen that had to
Speaker 6: do with the nWo in a segment that they weren't
Speaker 6: even booked on. But you had to listen to hear
Speaker 6: what like Shavani was talking about or whatever. WW maintained
Speaker 6: the lead. Meltter wrote throughout with the Weaker Show, w
Speaker 6: w's number steadily increased as the show went on.
Speaker 3: Well, WW has.
Speaker 6: Declined most of the Wow. Not only did it not
Speaker 6: beat Nitro that the string them along. It led to
Speaker 6: declining ratings as they set more hooks to see Sid
Speaker 6: and Bread. So yeah, put this in the SID was
Speaker 6: actually you show what you will about the guy, but
Speaker 6: he drew put it put this one in there. Fucking
Speaker 6: declining ratings to see him wrestle Brett for the title
Speaker 6: on a live Rauh, give me a break and not
Speaker 6: the op is it of a draw? I mean, I'm
Speaker 6: just right, I'm no mathematician.
Speaker 3: Isn't that a failure? Isn't that you know?
Speaker 6: It's like the biggest night he could possibly have on
Speaker 6: television and no one gave a fuck wow relatively speaking.
Speaker 6: At the start of the second hour, Meltzer rights when
Speaker 6: WCW had Nick Patrick versus Randy Anderson and Chris ben
Speaker 6: Wah versus Roadblock opposing the second tease of Hart versus Sid. Yeah,
Speaker 6: WCW had a three point two to one point nine lead.
Speaker 6: No Chris ben Wah versus roadblock referees wrestling each other
Speaker 6: AH or a WWF World title match between Sid and
Speaker 6: Brett Hart. They lost ratings for all that, for that
Speaker 6: fucking garbage. Clearly the idea Meltzer rights of teasing the
Speaker 6: match throughout the show was a ratings negative once they
Speaker 6: did it the second time, because ratings sputtered for the
Speaker 6: remainder of the second hour until Hart and Said finally
Speaker 6: get into the ring and started their match. The Brett
Speaker 6: Hart vers Sid match itself did pick the rating up
Speaker 6: to a two point four, still trailing WCW's three point zero.
Speaker 6: For a giant handicap match. Okay, the Giant in a
Speaker 6: handicap match, and it's not. It's against Top Gun and
Speaker 6: Johnny Swinger.
Speaker 3: I don't even know who the fuck they are. Exactly
Speaker 3: who the fuck are those? Who's Top Gun?
Speaker 6: Top Gun was, Oh god, let me look. I can
Speaker 6: picture him, but I don't remember his name. Fidelsierra. He
Speaker 6: was the Cuban Assassin. Sorry what, I don't know what
Speaker 6: he was doing on roster at the time. And Jericho
Speaker 6: versus Jeff Jarrett in nineteen ninety seven over a nitroh
Speaker 6: Man too much. I mean, just so weird. And there
Speaker 6: was an WO angle too with the Lex Lugar Nurk
Speaker 6: Bischoff on the show. It was they had let me
Speaker 6: let me get this right. This is the Nitro rundown
Speaker 6: from the observer Nitro. Well'll have you read it if
Speaker 6: you don't mind. Actually, yeah, nice little call back to
Speaker 6: the at this time in WC w in Away. Sure,
Speaker 6: this is the report and the observer from that Nitro
Speaker 6: just to break down the show. So this is what
Speaker 6: this is what banked the pants off of Sid's Big
Speaker 6: Night in Nashville.
Speaker 3: Nitrol on February seventeenth, was held before a sellout three
Speaker 3: thousand fans at Steinbrenner Hall at the Tampa State Fairgrounds.
Speaker 3: About fifteen hundred fans paid ten dollars ahead to get
Speaker 3: premium seat. Ten dollars ahead. What the fuck? Ten dollars
Speaker 3: ahead to get premium seats, and the rest of the
Speaker 3: seats are filled by fair goers who I pay fair
Speaker 3: more like unfair goers. What's going on? Oring we get hey,
Speaker 3: you know we got the fair. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 9: Go to the We'll do the tilted whirl. Wait, well,
Speaker 9: wait a minute, that guy did a tilt the World
Speaker 9: Basket place ten dollars ahead. Well, well what I never
Speaker 9: understood fucking WCW at all?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and a lot of things they did
Speaker 6: what was for atmosphere because they made all lot of
Speaker 6: money on pay per view and stuff and.
Speaker 3: Mar Yeah, but man oh man, where was I there?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 3: Had to pay fair admission? There were a lot of
Speaker 3: problems live, yeah, because a lot more people had paid
Speaker 3: to get into the fair, largely to attend Nitro, and
Speaker 3: then couldn't get in because the place was packed. They
Speaker 3: opened with an angle of nWo coming to the ring
Speaker 3: and suddenly, off camera someone laid Big Bubba out. The
Speaker 3: implication was that it was Diamond Dallas Page, who did
Speaker 3: an interview later in the show pretending not to know
Speaker 3: what was going on Page versus Bubba. Well, we replaced
Speaker 3: at the Cow Palace show by Steve Regal versus Ultimo Dragon.
Speaker 3: Where do we sign up? Huh? Where do I sign
Speaker 3: up to see that one? Seriously? Oh my god? Who
Speaker 3: gives a fuck? Ay Maysteria with a noticeably tender knee
Speaker 3: toned down, but super super Clown did an incredible series
Speaker 3: of moves before Mysterio Junior got the pin with the
Speaker 3: springboard Harkin Rana and five minutes fifty seven seconds. Steve
Speaker 3: McMichael looked surprisingly decent in beating Hugh Morris. When Morris
Speaker 3: moon salted the briefcase Deborah had thrown in the ring,
Speaker 3: McMichael injured his knee to the mite. Ray's injured. McMichael's injured.
Speaker 6: Now, well you got you got marill In Austin with
Speaker 6: knee injuries on this.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The other side with Jesus Christ Dean Malenko beat Robbie
Speaker 3: Brookside in a match where the matt wrestling was good,
Speaker 3: but it had no build nor any crowd reaction. Brookside
Speaker 3: and Doc Dean are too what the fuck is this shit?
Speaker 6: Are we sure, by the way, that both sides weren't
Speaker 6: just hiring Tanya Harding's heavy to go smash people on
Speaker 6: the knee?
Speaker 3: I mean, hey, you know what that might have been?
Speaker 4: It?
Speaker 3: I would Can you imagine if fucking Jeff Galuley was
Speaker 3: doing that shit, just fucking whacking? Is that who? I think?
Speaker 3: You're right? Yeah, Jeff Coilully.
Speaker 6: If you read that name on this nitro result, I
Speaker 6: wouldn't blink an eye like thinking that was just a
Speaker 6: wrestler they used to use that I forgot.
Speaker 3: About Jeff Goaloser and uh with Brookside and Doc Dean
Speaker 3: or two British wrestlers brought in by Regal. Six came
Speaker 3: out and had a verbal confrontation with Malenko, building the
Speaker 3: feud around the fact that it was Dean's father who
Speaker 3: originally trained six. Holland Nash came out and had a
Speaker 3: confrontation with Larry's Abisco that got great heat. Public Enemy
Speaker 3: beat French Canadians in a bad match with a good finish.
Speaker 3: Pe got a good reaction to their oh public Enemy
Speaker 3: to their crowd mannerisms. Prince Ayakia, a Malenko student, won
Speaker 3: the TV. Okay, what does that matter?
Speaker 6: I think they're trying to explain why the fuck this
Speaker 6: guy would get a title.
Speaker 3: But he didn't. Oh okay when the TV off Okay
Speaker 3: okay from Regal in three into thirty seconds when Regal
Speaker 3: was distracted by Mysterio Junior and Iakeia got him from behind,
Speaker 3: brother right, wonder he wasn't there? What do you do
Speaker 3: doing finishes like that? Dude? For the pin Ia Ka
Speaker 3: is expected to drop the strap to Mysterio Junior at
Speaker 3: the Cow Palace. The idea is that the undercard belts
Speaker 3: would be held by Malenko or six Eddie Guerrero and
Speaker 3: Mysterio Junior, which pretty much guarantees three hot title matches
Speaker 3: at the house show and pay per view cards. Randy
Speaker 3: Anderson beat Nick Patrick in twenty one seconds. When referee
Speaker 3: Jimmy Jett gave Anderson brass knucks. Eric Bischoff came out
Speaker 3: and said, because of what happened, that not only has
Speaker 3: Anderson fired, but so is Jet Chris ben Wah destroyed
Speaker 3: Roadblock in two minutes thirty one seconds. Boy, that would
Speaker 3: have never happened in the eighties. For all the people
Speaker 3: who always vote Mankind or Tommy Dreamer or sand Man
Speaker 3: as the best brawler in wrestling, ben Wah is in
Speaker 3: a league way above any of them when it comes
Speaker 3: to brawling. That's funny. I never you don't consider ben
Speaker 3: Wata be a brawler. Don't he can do it?
Speaker 6: I mean remember those Kevin Sullivan matches from sure, but like, yeah,
Speaker 6: that's just crazy.
Speaker 3: Uh. They aired a video of Holland Nash running the
Speaker 3: Steiners off the road and rolling their what do you
Speaker 3: mean rolling?
Speaker 7: Dude?
Speaker 3: Is definitely dude. Dave Brother, you're writing about this ship.
Speaker 3: You make me very nervous. I just want to say, dude,
Speaker 3: you know when you when you put this stuff and
Speaker 3: you write down the night for reports. Brother, I would appreciate,
Speaker 3: dude if you would not use the term roll up
Speaker 3: or go from behind?
Speaker 6: Did somebody put you up to using roll in that sentence?
Speaker 3: Dude? I mean that's just kind of too convenient for me.
Speaker 3: I mean, like, where are you coming from with this? Dude? Right?
Speaker 3: Did someone talk to you about like what verb to use?
Speaker 3: Did to me? I would say the car flipped over.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say roll over like that. I mean, you bishoff,
Speaker 3: come and talk to you about this.
Speaker 6: I mean did he say anything to you? I mean
Speaker 6: I know you talk sometimes.
Speaker 3: Brother. I want to ask question. Dude. Just be honest
Speaker 3: with me. Brother, I don't have to swear, you know,
Speaker 3: cross my heart, man, I will keep this, you know
Speaker 3: between you and me. Brother, you're talking to Linda dude.
Speaker 6: Right, because he's been a little pissed off at me
Speaker 6: lately and she's made threat.
Speaker 3: She's you know, she's been a little on edge with Hogan.
Speaker 3: The next thing, not Terry Terry Bland, Brother, Terry, you
Speaker 3: know she can't tarry your cool dude.
Speaker 6: Next thing, I know I pick up the Observer and
Speaker 6: you're talking about, you know, sneaking up from behind. You're
Speaker 6: talking about Big Bubba disappearing. Brother, I'll tell you, sponge, dude,
Speaker 6: I mean what Bubba is disappearing?
Speaker 3: Where's Bubba coming from? Where's he going? What's you know?
Speaker 3: I'll tell you. Linda has been threatening brother to tell
Speaker 3: to tell people that well the pull Cogan from behind.
Speaker 6: She said she was gonna talk to Meltzer. I mean
Speaker 6: her saying she.
Speaker 3: Said, I'm gonna tell Meltzer to roll you up from behind?
Speaker 6: He said, Brother, what so I'm on the phone right now, Dissave,
Speaker 6: I'm looking for an answer.
Speaker 3: Dude, dude, Dave, miss Brother, I'm talking about the miss
Speaker 3: look miss Elks tune of mis ELTs Brother, Tuna Meltzer?
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 3: Fucking tell me, dude, do you wanted to go? Do
Speaker 3: you wanted to pin? Linda? Brother?
Speaker 6: She's coming from a belt, Jerry, I really suggest you
Speaker 6: stop reading the Observer using a Ouiji board.
Speaker 10: Exactly.
Speaker 3: He had no idea that anybody knew he did that.
Speaker 3: That one stopped him dead in his tracks.
Speaker 6: Now what do you think it says someone's gonna roll
Speaker 6: you up because you you roll the circle over an
Speaker 6: ass and then over a Oh, I don't know, there's
Speaker 6: something just guide.
Speaker 3: In my hand, dude. I'm I mean, who's got my hand? Brother?
Speaker 3: Who's a guiding hand? Dude?
Speaker 6: It's not done, callous brother, because then he thinks for
Speaker 6: a second, wait, maybe it just don callous.
Speaker 3: I didn't, but I think we'll be in total with
Speaker 3: callous dude.
Speaker 6: Don Kallos and callous.
Speaker 3: What I got a Calus on my foot? Dude?
Speaker 6: Do you know what the French Canadians were that you
Speaker 6: read off there in the results? Yeah, it's the It's
Speaker 6: the the Quebecer's unbelievable, all right?
Speaker 3: So where do we go from here? Fucking jokes? W
Speaker 3: w uh okay is here in the car?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 3: They used some jump cuts, a ramp then erased from video,
Speaker 3: what a ramp then erased from video? And a stunt
Speaker 3: driver friend of Hogan's to put together the video, which
Speaker 3: was a creative idea, but it could have been used
Speaker 3: a lot more effectively. It was announced Steiner's were off
Speaker 3: the pay per view in the four corners match would
Speaker 3: become a triangle with the faces of Fear, Public Enemy
Speaker 3: and Harlem heat boy. That's a keeper.
Speaker 6: Pretty pretty pretty weird that Hall and Nash weren't charged with, oh,
Speaker 6: I don't know, attempted homiciding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you what. I got an idea,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean it's safe to say, yeah that
Speaker 3: I know the roads better than anybody else in this company,
Speaker 3: so I'd be able to run them off the road
Speaker 3: because I know them better. Look, if you're a mark,
Speaker 3: look if you're going to be a fucking mark about it,
Speaker 3: you know, but I'm telling you this is the way
Speaker 3: it is. Yeah, just fucking have me run them off
Speaker 3: the road. Be totally legit, fuck it, fuck it. Then
Speaker 3: I'm say Sunday Feace is a fear. Kevin Sullivan b
Speaker 3: Doc Dean in a match highlighted by Jacqueline beating up Dean,
Speaker 3: including body slimmon and suplexing him. Eddie Guerrero beat Conan
Speaker 3: via DQ in a US title match when Guerrero hit
Speaker 3: the Big Hit the frog splash and Meng and Barbarian interfered.
Speaker 3: Match was solid, but Chris Jericho's run in left something
Speaker 3: to be desired, as his timing of his kicks didn't
Speaker 3: look good, made worse because Meng and Barbarian didn't sell
Speaker 3: worth crap for the Little Guy. Giant destroyed Top Gun,
Speaker 3: Dave Cannel aka Dave Sierra, and Johnny Swinger. After the match,
Speaker 3: Lex Luger came out with a doctor's release, but Bischoff
Speaker 3: said he needed it by last week, so Lucer said
Speaker 3: he was buying a ticket and going to San Francisco anyway.
Speaker 3: They did a creative Roddy Piper promo said to be
Speaker 3: live from Alcatraz, except it was sunny at a time
Speaker 3: when Alcatraz was cloudy and the sun going down, and
Speaker 3: it was sunny again when it was dark in San Francisco.
Speaker 3: Piper talked into the toilet bowl at Hogan. Typical Piper
Speaker 3: intensity and lack of sense, but overall a great hype piece.
Speaker 3: It was funny because Piper said that this isn't a
Speaker 3: wrestling promo. Jercho beat Jeff Jarrett when McMichael ran in
Speaker 3: and clocked Jarrett with a briefcase, causing his wife to
Speaker 3: get mad at him. Hogan did an interview Stinging in
Speaker 3: Savage came out, but nothing much materialized phenomenal so yep, you.
Speaker 6: Can see just the match results didn't really tell the
Speaker 6: story as to what people would have been tuning in for.
Speaker 6: But yeah, Jacqueline, I'm glad you mentioned her because she
Speaker 6: had debuted in January and she was doing the China
Speaker 6: thing already and they don't talk about it.
Speaker 7: Ah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's so revolutionary blah blah blah.
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, Jacqueline's getting huge pops body slamming like Disco Inferno
Speaker 6: and stuff, and they copy it in the net like
Speaker 6: they revolutionized. But yeah, so that was pretty much the
Speaker 6: rundown of what Nitro had to offer. Again, the maneuvering
Speaker 6: around what time the shows were on and such was
Speaker 6: key in being covered in the press electronic media. On
Speaker 6: March twenty fourth of nineteen ninety seven, ran this piece
Speaker 6: a cable wrestling Brawl. The match between USA Networks ww
Speaker 6: FRAW and Turner Network Television's WCW Monday Nitro wrestling shows
Speaker 6: has been anything but civil. The latest half Nelson comes
Speaker 6: from You, Oh My God, Come On comes from USA,
Speaker 6: which has quietly pushed up the start time of ww
Speaker 6: FRAW to seven fifty seven pm to get a three
Speaker 6: minute jump on TNAZPM start time for Monday nightro. Ww
Speaker 6: fraw also has begun to end four minutes late.
Speaker 3: As well.
Speaker 6: That's that Brett one we talked about. Yeah, that was
Speaker 6: the big overrun at ten oh four pm. Although it
Speaker 6: cuts into the ad time for shows before and after
Speaker 6: w w FRAW, USA hopes its strategy of seamless program
Speaker 6: transitions will keep audiences tuned into the wrestling program and
Speaker 6: the drama that follows it. What show boss in this
Speaker 6: time period in nineteen ninety seven followed Monday Night Raw?
Speaker 3: U Is it the blue? Nope? I was a little
Speaker 3: that was a ninety eight? Was it still silk stocking? Close? Nikita? Correctikita?
Speaker 3: And it actually did.
Speaker 6: The overrun did benefit them quite a bit because you
Speaker 6: know that's that's like over a million, you know, two
Speaker 6: million viewers that are sticking around for the first five
Speaker 6: minutes of what of a block.
Speaker 3: You get credit for? You know that exactly.
Speaker 6: Nikita would get credit for those overruns. So the piece concludes, Now,
Speaker 6: in response to USA's move, T and T has began
Speaker 6: airing WCW Nitro at seven fifty five pm.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I don't remember that at all. That's
Speaker 3: funny two.
Speaker 6: Minutes before w BIFF Raw. Could a seven to fifty
Speaker 6: three start for w biff Rob be close behind? Bonnie
Speaker 6: Bonnie Hammer's office. A Bonnie, listen, I have an idea.
Speaker 6: Let's start raw at four thirty pm Eastern time.
Speaker 3: Ment Bonnie, and I get an idea. All right, all right,
Speaker 3: it's it's Tuesday, all right, I got an idea. Let's
Speaker 3: start next Monday's raw now and just keep going because
Speaker 3: until eleven pm Monday.
Speaker 6: Night, they can't beat us out by a couple of minutes,
Speaker 6: and then can they full week?
Speaker 3: Full week? All right, we're starting next, we're starting if
Speaker 3: you know, today's the seventeenth, if we're let's start the
Speaker 3: twenty fourths raw right now on the fifteenth or the eighteenth,
Speaker 3: rather the eighteenth, and we just keep going. And so no,
Speaker 3: I can't do that.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm willing to give you two more minutes maybe,
Speaker 6: why not?
Speaker 3: Why not? I have all these we're the highest rated
Speaker 3: program on this television network.
Speaker 6: But that's not what people bought. I mean, that's not
Speaker 6: what people that's not what I'm you buy.
Speaker 3: What I fucking tell you? How I know what this
Speaker 3: didn't end? Well, I'm I'm USA.
Speaker 6: And the best I can do is give you maybe
Speaker 6: seven fifty three, get a two minute jump, and you
Speaker 6: can put where you want in those two minutes. No, no,
Speaker 6: I want seven days, not seven fifty three. I want
Speaker 6: seven days. So let me get the straight Vince. You
Speaker 6: want Raw to air all day every day so they
Speaker 6: can't beat you by two.
Speaker 3: More four hours, and you'll see a fucking rating on
Speaker 3: Monday night.
Speaker 6: And thus the ww networking notion was born. It's like
Speaker 6: the whole reason memory. They just have that live channel.
Speaker 3: And let me tell you this is the thing too.
Speaker 12: We are live, yes, for seven days, twenty four hours,
Speaker 12: seven days live in front of the sound crowd.
Speaker 6: That's far to twenty fourteen, Vince. So glad I could
Speaker 6: reach you. This is BONDI yet. Look, I just wanted
Speaker 6: to congratulate. You want to launch in the network. And
Speaker 6: you know how you know how long we're on now, Bonnie,
Speaker 6: you have any idea?
Speaker 3: You know how long our entertainment is valued.
Speaker 6: Now you recall poo pooing a twenty four to seven
Speaker 6: coverage Raw?
Speaker 3: Do you recall that? Remember when I said doing Raw
Speaker 3: for twenty four to seven? Now the fans get w
Speaker 3: w ee anytime he want.
Speaker 6: That's right, Fuck you, Bunny, it's over the top. Monnie,
Speaker 6: you're an asshole. Yeah, she goes, I can only give
Speaker 6: you two more minutes, seven fifty three. It's best I
Speaker 6: can do. And you can put whatever you want on there.
Speaker 6: Flash forward to that Monday. Two minutes of fucking porn.
Speaker 3: It puts on there, all right, and you want I'll
Speaker 3: tell you what, all right, and you give me two minutes.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you two minutes. You'll never forget, right,
Speaker 3: that's him. Yeah, It's just it's not there's no there's
Speaker 3: no build up. It's like a personal sex tape of
Speaker 3: Vince McMahon too. It's not even like real porn.
Speaker 6: There's no build up, there's no like fake acting. It's
Speaker 6: just immediate balls slamming an ass. It's anonymous.
Speaker 3: You just see it. Well, I'm just screaming.
Speaker 6: That won his identity very well.
Speaker 3: Is big shaved ass, the pasty white ass of his
Speaker 3: Oh my god? So yeah, that that's uh, that's that's
Speaker 3: all over. What if? That's tremendous. So let's let's get started,
Speaker 3: shall we.
Speaker 6: This is he's a huge edition of raw and it's
Speaker 6: it's a key part of our of our sid tribute
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Speaker 6: Coming soon, of course, one of our seasonal quarterly mail bags,
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Speaker 6: we last join you. When were the holidays approaching? I
Speaker 6: think that might be an extra fat Santa's sack, Boss.
Speaker 6: I think you are correct. You talk about the holidays approaching,
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Speaker 3: Talk to him about Oh God, I'm got me tell
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Speaker 3: some that we didn't get to last year. But yeah,
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Speaker 6: And this is you know, with a little bit of
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Speaker 3: It was, it was absolutely it was maybe the most
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Speaker 3: I want to say it was the most clever, but
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Speaker 6: that titles you to the series that has had an
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Speaker 3: Boss.
Speaker 6: By the time they hear this, they would have heard
Speaker 6: the Halloween surprise and tell them all about that and
Speaker 6: where we're headed for the rest of TLFX season.
Speaker 3: Well, you would have heard just the main event for
Speaker 3: Scary Movie Season. I'm not going to spoil it, but
Speaker 3: it was an absolute treat.
Speaker 6: One of the best ones. I mean, just so great
Speaker 6: to get into a movie without much meat on the bone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was so good. Again in case
Speaker 3: for those who haven't heard, I don't want to spoil
Speaker 3: it just yet, but it was. It was, absolutely it was.
Speaker 3: It was a wild ride. I'll just say that it
Speaker 3: was a wild ride. And the the the ultimate wrestling
Speaker 3: connection is is honestly, it's worth the price of admission
Speaker 3: right there, because it's something so bizarre. It's something so
Speaker 3: out of left field that you wouldn't even you know.
Speaker 3: I I'm I'm curious if anybody, if anybody, I'll tell
Speaker 3: you this part, if anybody in the UK has heard
Speaker 3: of this guy, all right, if anybody in the UK
Speaker 3: has memories of this, I need to know, because it's
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Speaker 3: it was wild and UH and we will be coming
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Speaker 3: Carneies are forever. The time is right, The time is
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Speaker 3: gonna leave it.
Speaker 6: And then heading into Christmas movie season.
Speaker 3: Of course, Christmas movie season for sure.
Speaker 6: Unbelievable, so many ornaments on the TLFX Christmas Tree. Yeah
Speaker 6: this year and yeah, under the Cinemat just an absolute must,
Speaker 6: even if you're not a cinephile like myself. Like I mean,
Speaker 6: I love movies, but I'm not like an encyclopedia of movies,
Speaker 6: and I never claimed to be. And this series has
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Speaker 6: so many movies that are just like the ones when
Speaker 6: I've had to say in my lifetime. And I'm sure
Speaker 6: there are a lot of people listening to this who
Speaker 6: are hardest of hardcore wrestling fans who can associate with this.
Speaker 3: Na I never saw it what? No, never saw what?
Speaker 3: And yeah, how many? How many weeks have you gotten?
Speaker 3: Matt for me?
Speaker 6: As the years go, Man, I'm just not only am
Speaker 6: I checking those off, but I'm coming with such a
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Speaker 3: Classics, yeah right, and not so classics. And part of
Speaker 3: the fun too for me is the fact that even
Speaker 3: with movies that I know, I know inside and out,
Speaker 3: you know, learning more about them as we as I
Speaker 3: as I dive into them, and it's it's crazy. It's crazy.
Speaker 3: The stories that that that you know, we uh that
Speaker 3: we find crazy, the stories that happened, stuff that maybe
Speaker 3: people don't know about it. I mean, honestly, to me,
Speaker 3: the biggest treat finding wrestlers that nobody knows about for sure,
Speaker 3: Finding wrestlers that that.
Speaker 6: You know have that's something you know, you're adding uniquely
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Speaker 6: ever looked at that and as much depth as you will,
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Speaker 3: And also you know, it's it's rediscovering people that that
Speaker 3: that just sadly are you know, just because of the
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Speaker 3: that is out there that I'm able to kind of
Speaker 3: grab and and put together. So it's fun.
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Speaker 6: It's a very simple proposition, very simple. In the words
Speaker 6: of Sid, it's all very very simple. I found myself
Speaker 6: saying that way too much as we examined Sid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that kind of makes sense. So
Speaker 3: there you go. Feel simple.
Speaker 6: And then the backdrop, I mean, here's how Meltzer puts it.
Speaker 3: As we get into the deep dive.
Speaker 6: Perhaps the strangest week in World Wrestling Federation history ended
Speaker 6: up with three WWF title changes, the teas of the
Speaker 6: end of Sean Michael's career, a strange twist, and the
Speaker 6: working relationship with ECW, the beginning of the Live Raw,
Speaker 6: a television special, a pay per view event, a surprise
Speaker 6: Intercontinental title switch, numerous long term plans switched, steroids appeared
Speaker 6: back to being somewhat in vogue and perhaps not even
Speaker 6: limited to the male performers, and the beginning of WrestleMania
Speaker 6: hype all crammed into five days. Oh my God, settled,
Speaker 6: Meltzer wrote, said was back with the WWF title, about
Speaker 6: that Seohn Michaels never lost, and that Brett Hark never
Speaker 6: beat anyone for in becoming a one day wonder, and
Speaker 6: probably wondering himself if he made the worst career move
Speaker 6: of his career, as second guessers and many in the
Speaker 6: industry were seeing by the end of the week, that
Speaker 6: is to say, turning down WCW and going.
Speaker 3: With him a few more months, give a few more
Speaker 3: months exactly.
Speaker 6: But Hey, at this time, if you were like begging
Speaker 6: for him to go away, that's not the reaction you
Speaker 6: want a fan position like you were in nineteen ninety
Speaker 6: seven to have to a guy that you just signed
Speaker 6: to this astron high.
Speaker 3: I wasn't begging him to go away. I just didn't
Speaker 3: want him to be the guy, or at least I
Speaker 3: didn't want him to be a babyface guy. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: was if he you know, him being a heel, I
Speaker 3: was all about it. I was like, give me that,
Speaker 3: that's fucking money.
Speaker 7: It was the.
Speaker 3: It was the the the unbeatable babyface that really bugged me. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and that those hands, that hand will be forced.
Speaker 6: I mean, for Vince, he's looking at this kind of
Speaker 6: outlay on that contract and he's gonna he's going to
Speaker 6: do what it takes to tell himself that Brett is
Speaker 6: drawing him money. And if baby Face squeaky clean Brett,
Speaker 6: the one that he spent so much to retain, isn't
Speaker 6: the ticket, then he'll switch it up because he's not
Speaker 6: going to pay this guy to do something that's not
Speaker 6: working or not at least producing revenue to his to
Speaker 6: his mind. So it's definitely a poetic moment and time
Speaker 6: in the career of Brett Hart as well as it
Speaker 6: is Sid. It's kind of wonderful how their paths intersect
Speaker 6: in a way because Brett kind of ends up needing
Speaker 6: Sid to get this positioning right and to get the
Speaker 6: belt kind of transitions smoothly out of the picture. So
Speaker 6: he can really go head to head with Steve Austin
Speaker 6: and it's not all about the belt the whole time.
Speaker 6: An Undertaker can have his rain and have his opponents
Speaker 6: without it being like, all right, when's Brett going to
Speaker 6: get it, culminating in the Brett Undertaker SummerSlam classic that
Speaker 6: is just so memorable in so many ways. So we
Speaker 6: open this edition of Rob with Sid's music immediately. So
Speaker 6: this already I was feeling good about choosing this for
Speaker 6: the tribute show the break first thing you hear is
Speaker 6: his music.
Speaker 3: If you hear the music, I was kind of disappointed
Speaker 3: that there was no in I would like to assume
Speaker 3: whatever the intro was at the time. Yeah, they did
Speaker 3: the cold open.
Speaker 6: There was no intro in this one because they were
Speaker 6: trying to get right into the action to keep people
Speaker 6: hooked because they had that one minute advantage or two
Speaker 6: three minute advantage.
Speaker 3: Crazy.
Speaker 6: So they jump right in media res as they say,
Speaker 6: we start this one, and Jim Ross welcomes us on.
Speaker 6: We're live from the Nashville Arena and they have the uh,
Speaker 6: the bubbles projected on the carpet. That's the shower bubbles right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean that's I can't believe
Speaker 3: that that that is a real thing, that that that
Speaker 3: the idea is that it's the shower, the shower water that.
Speaker 6: Is so fucking from Psycho. Yeah, it never sunk in
Speaker 6: with me watching back then. I mean I knew that
Speaker 6: that song was from the movie Psycho, but that the
Speaker 6: touch of actually, you know, designing the lighting to to
Speaker 6: evoke the shower scene in Psycho was was detail I
Speaker 6: didn't appreciate till I was watching this one back and
Speaker 6: it's sit on the walk, black leather vest, water flying everywhere,
Speaker 6: because you know, that's a key part to the presentation. Yep,
Speaker 6: screaming I'm the man, extra enthusiastic, fist bumps, feels big
Speaker 6: league for sure. Definitely an entrance where I'm like, okay,
Speaker 6: he's He's definitely one of the biggest stars on the show.
Speaker 3: Oh, no question. And I never you know, again, I
Speaker 3: never thought otherwise. I mean, he was, he was important
Speaker 3: to me at that time. Yep. For sure. I definitely
Speaker 3: wasn't necessarily a fan of him being champion the first time,
Speaker 3: but you know I was. I was all about it,
Speaker 3: you know, and I I never hated him as a
Speaker 3: wrestler and.
Speaker 6: Of course, as the show gets kind of a grittier approach,
Speaker 6: and to get even grittier and the look changes. That
Speaker 6: old WWF yellow and blue logo on the bottom left
Speaker 6: stayed a long time.
Speaker 3: It overstayed. It's welcome in some ways. Yeah, I would
Speaker 3: say it definitely did. It's it's certainly you know it's
Speaker 3: missed now, but at the time it was like it
Speaker 3: was time to go yep, go ahead.
Speaker 6: Lawler has to share that, you know, the worst news
Speaker 6: you possibly could share. Brett Hart ladyes Generals once again
Speaker 6: World Wrestling Federation champion, having won the final four main
Speaker 6: event the night before in pay per view, So they
Speaker 6: get the fans up to speed on that right away. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and they talk about how that could come to a
Speaker 6: screeching halt before it even gets started. This latest reign
Speaker 6: of the Hitman. The fourth title rain for Brett Hart
Speaker 6: sid takes the apron red, white and blue row.
Speaker 3: I remember like it just like you know again, I
Speaker 3: I ask you to imagine someone who missed Thursday Raw Thursday,
Speaker 3: right what a fucking trip, didn't get the fucking pay
Speaker 3: per view either, And here I am and like I'm
Speaker 3: like what the fuck? Like oh, like I'm thinking, I'm
Speaker 3: I'm preparing myself to like, here we go again, another
Speaker 3: fucking Bredheart title reign. Just miserable.
Speaker 6: Did you hold out any hope though watching this that
Speaker 6: Sid would win the belt on this episode?
Speaker 3: None? None, It never happened. You know, I knew. I
Speaker 3: was soaked. I was conditioned. Oh, after over four years
Speaker 3: of watching Raw that a title change is not going
Speaker 3: to happen.
Speaker 6: Sence, just not the way it works. Sensible, absolutely sensible.
Speaker 3: You know they didn't do it. They won't do it.
Speaker 3: I mean because every time, I mean, listen, let's not
Speaker 3: just say I didn't get excited when I saw that
Speaker 3: it might happen, but I also was like, yeah, that
Speaker 3: only it's going to happen, right, you know, I went
Speaker 3: into every title match that happened on Raw as it's
Speaker 3: not going to happen, But when it came close, I
Speaker 3: got excited. I didn't think this was going to happen
Speaker 3: at all. Yep.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And that incredible Sid Pyro hanging over the ring
Speaker 6: sets off as well as Sid makes the big entrance,
Speaker 6: So you're you think this is it, They're going for it.
Speaker 3: You know they're not. I really did. I really thought
Speaker 3: that they were going for a title, like like they
Speaker 3: were going to open up with the show me all right, yep,
Speaker 3: I guess this is the thing. I mean, even watching
Speaker 3: it back, I didn't remember that they did the tea.
Speaker 3: I'm like watching thing. Oh wow, I guess we're getting
Speaker 3: the Sid tribute done pretty early.
Speaker 6: I was actually had a moment of panic because if
Speaker 6: the match I remember Sid beating Brett was the first
Speaker 6: match on the whole show, then it's got a stupid
Speaker 6: to do the rest of that edition of RAW. I agree,
Speaker 6: And then it's about, wow, do I remember this being
Speaker 6: the last thing?
Speaker 1: Thing?
Speaker 3: Like I was like, oh god, if we had the like,
Speaker 3: what's the point of watching the whole other thing if
Speaker 3: we if it's right here in the beginning, like I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I honestly like sat there. I don't remember
Speaker 3: it being at the beginning, But you know, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it is, Maybe that part of my memory
Speaker 3: is a little, uh is a little fuzzy.
Speaker 6: One thing we've learned over ten years as the lapsed
Speaker 6: gods look much more favorably upon us than to do
Speaker 6: that to us.
Speaker 3: So of course I agreed all works out.
Speaker 6: Jim Ross's Bad News and good news is doctor James
Speaker 6: Andrews update on Seawn Michaels is to come and there's
Speaker 6: both sides of the coin. Is it regard Sean Michael's health?
Speaker 6: More on that later on the show, Sid absolutely screaming
Speaker 6: with who's the man and fist pumps. Yes, he's six's nine,
Speaker 6: three thirteen. He is the challenger.
Speaker 3: Jr.
Speaker 6: Says he is hungry and what condition is Brett hard?
Speaker 6: And that is the question Jr. Ex after hit Man
Speaker 6: had to go the distance in a brutal foreway. You know,
Speaker 6: there's all that blood on Vader's head and yep.
Speaker 3: Well it's even funny too because because Lawler does talk
Speaker 3: about that, uh and he he talks about the state
Speaker 3: of Vader's face.
Speaker 2: We got some highlights. Let's go a little bit later
Speaker 2: on tonight.
Speaker 6: What well, I mean he was eating hamburger His face
Speaker 6: looked like hamburger meat because it was covered in hamburger meat.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 6: It's like three hours after the match.
Speaker 3: Was over, after the event was over. These pictures of.
Speaker 6: Vader taken at a at a restaurant in Nashville after
Speaker 6: the match exactly, so you get the.
Speaker 3: Eat my face.
Speaker 6: The face looks like hamburger. Vader, Oh, it's the cheeseburger. Actually,
Speaker 6: if you can see the.
Speaker 3: Cheese, I'm so good, dude. Why are you yelling? Vader?
Speaker 3: What is your face look like chopped cheese?
Speaker 2: I'm talking.
Speaker 4: I said here it is.
Speaker 3: It's exactly how it sound with a dew rag on.
Speaker 6: Vader a big fan of places that have like this
Speaker 6: flat spatula and scoop the meat into the HOGI.
Speaker 3: I want to hear that on the grill. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: the chinking, it's crucial. Speaking of the ting, ting ting,
Speaker 3: it's wrestling time. It's true.
Speaker 6: So the s I isn't sparking and elevating towards the ceiling.
Speaker 6: It Sid hits the ring awesome row Ray and Psycho
Speaker 6: sid in the lower third. The way he used to
Speaker 6: write ra A W and those bevil silver letters.
Speaker 3: I used to like that. Yeah, yep, I liked him too,
Speaker 3: so j R.
Speaker 6: And Lawler Ringside and commentary. No Vince on commentary here. Interestingly,
Speaker 6: as we see the crown.
Speaker 3: He wasn't that was he was. He was still doing
Speaker 3: it too. That's I didn't even think of that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was the whole thing of him getting so
Speaker 6: worked up over Brett Hart punching Pat Patterson on that
Speaker 6: raw we keep talking about is he was on commentary
Speaker 6: and that's how he's able to scream that dirt. He
Speaker 6: Wrott in the Son of a and eventually gets up.
Speaker 6: So you heard a little bit of it and that
Speaker 6: Lawler sound bite. But the Brett screech music kicks off
Speaker 6: that guitar riff and here.
Speaker 3: Comes the hitman weird. It's beautiful. Oh, such a great
Speaker 3: entrance song. It's like it's it's it's it really is
Speaker 3: just absolutely spectacular, always works and not everybody was.
Speaker 6: Sourpuss about his title win at the time, and I
Speaker 6: signed this sys congratulations Brett Hart.
Speaker 3: He makes his way to the ring.
Speaker 6: Jer said, we're as live as you could be, and
Speaker 6: he says that with all the voice of somebody who
Speaker 6: is you know, very much aware that being live is
Speaker 6: a huge part of this night, you know, and getting
Speaker 6: that across the fans is important. Like this is not
Speaker 6: something that Bischoff can reveal the results of on the
Speaker 6: air like he had done already on Nitro Raw letters
Speaker 6: on the entrance R A W and read not much
Speaker 6: longer for that. I mean, there's like a week left.
Speaker 6: This is probably like the last one. They go to Germany,
Speaker 6: and I don't think they bring that set with them
Speaker 6: that they use it for the Manhattan Center Raw for ECW,
Speaker 6: they do do that. That's part of it too. One
Speaker 6: part of the reason that that show was just so
Speaker 6: like crammed in there and all so random is because
Speaker 6: a lot of the guys were already preparing to travel
Speaker 6: for the European tour.
Speaker 3: Oh maybe, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6: It's like, let's just film out with the ACW wrestlers.
Speaker 6: Who gives a fucking put Stevie Richards on raw? Yeah, right,
Speaker 6: but there they are pop gun fire work over the entrance.
Speaker 3: It does.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it does kind of feel like this is like
Speaker 6: a last raw of its type. It feels like Ra's
Speaker 6: about to change in a way that the old set
Speaker 6: can't somehow the old look can't accommodate, you know what
Speaker 6: I mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is very true. I wonder if that if
Speaker 3: that really was, Like if I wonder if there was
Speaker 3: an element of like.
Speaker 6: We're about the change things here swan song.
Speaker 3: Of the of the old, of the old the old show.
Speaker 6: Like can you picture Steve Austin doing everything he did
Speaker 6: to Vince and to everybody else he feuded with in
Speaker 6: ninety eight ninety nine with the Monday Night Ross set
Speaker 6: behind him.
Speaker 3: No, you can't, no, not at all. It doesn't work.
Speaker 3: It doesn't work at all. You need you need the
Speaker 3: Titan Tron, you need all that stuff that was that
Speaker 3: was there. But it's crucial, pretty wild.
Speaker 6: So yeah, Brett gets that pop gun firework entrance overhead
Speaker 6: as he makes the walk in shades and the title
Speaker 6: strapped around his waist, hits the ring, the lights fade out.
Speaker 6: He makes the walk to all four sides of the
Speaker 6: ring with his arms extended, as Brett was prone to do.
Speaker 6: Four time champion he was as a result of that
Speaker 6: victory at Final four.
Speaker 3: Jr.
Speaker 6: Says the big news, however, is the Undertaker will meet
Speaker 6: the WWF Champion, whoever he may be, at Wrestlmania thirteen.
Speaker 6: So this match not only for the title, but for
Speaker 6: the main event slot against the Undertaker.
Speaker 3: As he lies in wait, so so okay, so he
Speaker 3: so because he lost because he was the last one
Speaker 3: with Brett that nix and then a more contender for WrestleManias.
Speaker 6: It's so stupid. It's like, why does the Undertaker have
Speaker 6: this title? Shot exactly. He lost to Vader at Royal Rumble.
Speaker 3: It's like he lost Vader, he lost the Royal Rumble
Speaker 3: and he lost the other that he's having the worst
Speaker 3: format year of his career. Huh, he's having the worst
Speaker 3: year of his career and it's ironically the best year
Speaker 3: of his career.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they didn't do a whole lot of planning why
Speaker 6: Undertaker got the title shot. You're right about that, just
Speaker 6: because he's screamed up to Sid one time.
Speaker 3: I guess, well, I think because it makes somewhat sense,
Speaker 3: because I guess he's you know. It's also like, you know,
Speaker 3: when you when you look at all the way it was,
Speaker 3: it was like because because Sid lost the world title,
Speaker 3: he was given this, you know, and because of Shawn Michaels,
Speaker 3: he was given, you know, a title shot. Yeah, I guess,
Speaker 3: and I guess the same thing could be said for
Speaker 3: the Undertaker that he's you know, because he because he
Speaker 3: was the runner up of the big the Big Final
Speaker 3: four match, that he is worthy of WrestleMania main advantage, which.
Speaker 6: Is pretty wild because, as we talked about on that
Speaker 6: Rob with the cage match would sit in breath. They
Speaker 6: switch it all up again the week before WrestleMania, and
Speaker 6: it's up in the air again.
Speaker 3: Who's going to get what?
Speaker 6: Because if Brett beats Sit in that cage, it's Brett
Speaker 6: Austin for the title. An undertaker's shit out of luck
Speaker 6: as far as the title shot goes right, right, So
Speaker 6: they change even that from the representations made here the
Speaker 6: night after Final Four, Earl Heavner presiding he hoisted the
Speaker 6: title that matters, the winged Eagle belt. Yes, and Brett
Speaker 6: handsome shades over to a young girl on the front
Speaker 6: row here in Nashville with a Hitman shirt and her
Speaker 6: teeth all over the place. Wonder if she got one
Speaker 6: for the road, said Jef Psycho said versus Brett Hart.
Speaker 6: Apparently he's gonna kick us off here on Monday Night Raw.
Speaker 6: They go face to face while Brett's music is still
Speaker 6: playing in the center of the ring. Sid towers over
Speaker 6: the hit Man there.
Speaker 3: It really does.
Speaker 6: They're trash talking. It looks like it's gonna go off,
Speaker 6: and then.
Speaker 3: Austin hits the ring.
Speaker 6: Is he showing Is he showing behaviors that that excite
Speaker 6: your loins back?
Speaker 8: Then?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, he is showing exactly what he needs to
Speaker 3: get me excited to be a wrestling fan, such as,
Speaker 3: all right, I mean he's just come the way, his attitude, Yes,
Speaker 3: just walking down there, it's like you know he was
Speaker 3: he was excitement because when he was there, all bets
Speaker 3: were off exactly. That's what made him fucking money is
Speaker 3: that they booked him in such a way that anytime
Speaker 3: he came to the ring, you knew, like you knew
Speaker 3: to expect anything. You knew to expect the unexpected. You
Speaker 3: knew that wait a minute, this is not like here
Speaker 3: I am thinking that it's gonna be a regular time match.
Speaker 3: Steve Austin comes down. Oh shit, what's he gonna do now?
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's like, no, there's no formality that would keep
Speaker 6: him in the back, just like you know, grinding his
Speaker 6: teeth but not attacking.
Speaker 3: You know, there's no there's a title match. I better
Speaker 3: just sit my ass down and watch it. No fuck,
Speaker 3: no fuck.
Speaker 6: If he sees fucking Brett Heart's face, he's going it
Speaker 6: doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: He's gonna He's there to eat it. It's great.
Speaker 6: So he hits the ring and they're going at it,
Speaker 6: exchanging as only they can. Bretton Austin, what a tre
Speaker 6: see those two throw right hands.
Speaker 3: Ah, there's nothing better than the two of them fighting
Speaker 3: like it just it's like the and now, like knowing
Speaker 3: knowing kind of more. At the time, it's like you
Speaker 3: you you love watching them fight because it was so intense.
Speaker 3: Now you watch it because you know how much they
Speaker 3: respect each other. Yes, and you see them like that.
Speaker 3: There is a there's a passion there that is missing
Speaker 3: from most of their other opponents because they respect each
Speaker 3: other so much, so true, and they enjoy working together
Speaker 3: so much.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is one of the rare ones where it's
Speaker 6: like learning about the the backstage happenings. It only enhances it,
Speaker 6: you know, doesn't detract from it at all. So they're
Speaker 6: exchanging is only they can.
Speaker 10: J R.
Speaker 6: Says Austin has become obsessed with bart Hard. I remember
Speaker 6: that they played that sound bite a lot. Steve Austin
Speaker 6: has become obsessed with Brett and he's a rabbit animal.
Speaker 10: Jr.
Speaker 6: Is fucking off the leash too, by the way. Ye
Speaker 6: oh yeah, no, Vince. Here he's allowed to really show
Speaker 6: what he can bring to a broadcast and a presentation
Speaker 6: and in the intensity of an angle, especially when his
Speaker 6: buddy Steve Austin's getting over and then suddenly Sid, while
Speaker 6: these two brawling, comes over the top with a clubbing
Speaker 6: shot on Austin.
Speaker 3: So Sid doesn't want to be left out of the fun. No,
Speaker 3: not at all. He comes over like a fucking madman.
Speaker 3: He's so fucking nuts.
Speaker 6: And he get that from those windmill shots. Those why no,
Speaker 6: yep yep. And in the Franks, Steve Austin chopped blocks
Speaker 6: Sid's knee and takes that out, and that'll play.
Speaker 3: That's the clip.
Speaker 6: That's the clip we talk about. That was a clip
Speaker 6: clip of the clip, and Bredhart mount Steve Boston and
Speaker 6: starts peppering away with shots Renne let My Kyota, Pat Patterson,
Speaker 6: Joel Brisco, I'll hit the ring trying to break. The
Speaker 6: whole crew comes down and Sid is screaming, Oh my god,
Speaker 6: listen to him, listen to him. Okay, this this is,
Speaker 6: this is this is let's just listen to him.
Speaker 2: Off here, look at that, Sid. It's hard.
Speaker 6: Oh, Sid, Sid, we'd like to get we'd like you
Speaker 6: to get across the idea that you're really frustrated that
Speaker 6: he just goes.
Speaker 3: I can do that. I can do that alone. This
Speaker 3: is a fucking maniac, and he's such a goofball.
Speaker 6: He's the only guy that can scream and still somehow
Speaker 6: be monotone, right.
Speaker 3: I know, he's the only man who can yell at
Speaker 3: the top of his lungs and not emote right and
Speaker 3: not makes me feel like he's reaching a different level.
Speaker 3: He's like, it's no different than him cutting a promo.
Speaker 3: It's the exact same, you know, kind of volume and intensity.
Speaker 3: There's no added emotion to it at all.
Speaker 6: And I guess what hyper ironic is. When he actually
Speaker 6: snaps his leg and half in WCW in two thousand
Speaker 6: and one, he doesn't.
Speaker 3: Scream at all that there you go. That's the sign
Speaker 3: right there.
Speaker 6: Herer He is clutching his knee as they get over
Speaker 6: the idea that Sid's chances of becoming champ tonight are
Speaker 6: going to be a casualty to the fucking warpath of
Speaker 6: stone cold Steve Austin, who's just striking anything that moves,
Speaker 6: and Austin starts peeling off the officials. They're all over him,
Speaker 6: and they go I think they go to the rails.
Speaker 6: You see that red white stencil WWF logo on the
Speaker 6: apron on that kid friendly look is this fucking bloodthirst
Speaker 6: plays out.
Speaker 3: No, he's just fucking yelling and screaming at the top
Speaker 3: of his lungs here and it's like, here's kid friendly
Speaker 3: telling vision.
Speaker 6: Sid selling the knee huge as he rises in the
Speaker 6: corner and he's waving Brett on. He can't even stand up,
Speaker 6: but he wants to still do the match.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: Jr ss Brett Heart is not a cheap shot artist,
Speaker 6: so he's very unlikely to take advantage of this situation.
Speaker 13: J R.
Speaker 6: Says it was stone cold Steve Austin, that rabbit animal
Speaker 6: that put everybody in this position. And I love the
Speaker 6: idea that anytime Brett lifts his head up, it's like
Speaker 6: a groundhog showing it. You know, It's like Austin pounces
Speaker 6: or like you know the wa.
Speaker 3: Yep, just like it. It's like I'm getting ready.
Speaker 6: Said that motherfucker hit in my leg. He screams that motherfucker. Yeah,
Speaker 6: he says, a motherfucker in yours.
Speaker 3: God, that's hilarious.
Speaker 6: Its just like when he says, uh, i'n't here ship,
Speaker 6: you know what is it?
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know ship. He said. It's like, Okay, Sid,
Speaker 3: that's that's kind of what I thought. You know, Damn,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Shit, I gotta get it. If you don't have it,
Speaker 6: I absolutely have to get this. Let me, let me
Speaker 6: pull this up, entertain the people somehow.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 6: So now let me how about this when when you're
Speaker 6: watching this, do you think you're not getting the match?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, I knew. I mean, wait, you mean originally yeah,
Speaker 3: originally that ninety Um, I don't remember. I don't remember.
Speaker 3: I feel like I feel like they you know, if anything,
Speaker 3: I would imagine that I felt like, and this is
Speaker 3: just speculation, but I would imagine that I felt like, oh, okay,
Speaker 3: they did it here, and they're going to tease it
Speaker 3: out and we're gonna get into the at the end
Speaker 3: of the show.
Speaker 6: You thought end of the show, not like a pay
Speaker 6: per view or something.
Speaker 3: No, I thought like an end of the show. They
Speaker 3: would do it? Would this be season three Boss? Season
Speaker 3: three of what of Monday Night Raw? According to Peaking
Speaker 3: Oh I know two? Season four? Do you know?
Speaker 6: On Peacock they have a picture of Sean Sean's crying
Speaker 6: face for this raw?
Speaker 3: Of course they do well. They do show a clip
Speaker 3: in a moment give it.
Speaker 6: That is that that is not the defining thing that
Speaker 6: happens on this show.
Speaker 3: I mean, did they ever really show the defining thing?
Speaker 3: I don't think they do, But yeah, I I I
Speaker 3: didn't think they would wait for pay per view. I
Speaker 3: thought for I knew. I was pretty commid they were
Speaker 3: going to show it tonight. But it was like, you know,
Speaker 3: I was. You get excited when it when a when
Speaker 3: a when a title match opens the show, and then
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, no, they're just fucking you know. I
Speaker 3: don't think I realized that they were, you know, trying
Speaker 3: to get a rating, but it just was like, oh,
Speaker 3: like I guess, I'm oh, they're trying to get me
Speaker 3: to watch the show. Duped again, Yeah.
Speaker 6: It feels like a kind of a ploy. It feels
Speaker 6: like a ploy a little bit. So let's see what
Speaker 6: we can hear here.
Speaker 2: The top awesome, we're getting it on here in Music City.
Speaker 3: This feels good just hearing it. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 2: It sounds layoffs here. Look at that cent it's.
Speaker 3: Hard set tellus rain of the camera, tic.
Speaker 14: Wo be Matchest yet officially Austin being us going out
Speaker 14: with a bevy of security and officials. But the big
Speaker 14: story here is bobly injured. Here's the Challenger w w
Speaker 14: F title.
Speaker 3: Say it, it's Lincoln, say it.
Speaker 14: This is this is not right now, Wait a minute.
Speaker 14: Sent you not have to wrestle in that condition? Well
Speaker 14: you're right about that, but say it. I'm not sure
Speaker 14: what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 3: It's gonna wave them on now in the corner.
Speaker 2: The matches yet to be up before. Yeahficially, artist, Prett Heart, you'd.
Speaker 15: Love to get your hands on him now when you
Speaker 15: you love to have him already nice and set up
Speaker 15: for your sharp shooter.
Speaker 2: That's not right. Well, Brett Hart is not a cheap
Speaker 2: sharp artist? Can you said? Know that as well as anybody?
Speaker 2: It was Stone Coll Steve Austin got rabbit animal Austin
Speaker 2: so obsessed. Doctor hit me. It doesn't see this is
Speaker 2: not to take place at this at this moment.
Speaker 6: I heard that again, Doctor hit me.
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem.
Speaker 3: Money night raw. I mean it's like you know, I
Speaker 3: always wonder too, like when they swear like that, like
Speaker 3: like you're not really hurt. Yeah, you don't actually hurt
Speaker 3: your leg, dude, Like I know it's forgivable if you
Speaker 3: actually hurt your leg. Yeah, I can understand that if
Speaker 3: you actually, like if there was a shoot injury. But
Speaker 3: he's is a total worked injury and he's so fucking
Speaker 3: screwed the top like he's swearing on television like he
Speaker 3: was method. I guess that's what he was.
Speaker 6: There's a method to the madness. So the official is
Speaker 6: still in there to keep them apart. Sid Chant breaks
Speaker 6: out a bit. Jail reflects on what had happened on Thursday,
Speaker 6: broth Thursday, bringing us to this moment, and Sean Michaels
Speaker 6: forfeiting the title due to a severe knee injury. As
Speaker 6: Sid leaves the ring with a knee injury of his own,
Speaker 6: they replay Sean's remarks from Thursday Raw Thursday.
Speaker 3: I have that because absolutely, you know, you know we
Speaker 3: haven't done that show, so absolutely hear it.
Speaker 16: But this is this is all I've ever wanted to do,
Speaker 16: and over the last year I got to do it.
Speaker 16: And whether you like me or not, I just want
Speaker 16: to tell you that last year was the most wonderful
Speaker 16: year of my life. And if I never do get
Speaker 16: to do it again, it'll be okay because I got
Speaker 16: to live one full year. Has been the number one
Speaker 16: guy in this business and it was a single most
Speaker 16: greatest year.
Speaker 3: Of my life.
Speaker 16: That I have you to thank, and I have everybody
Speaker 16: here to thank and it means a lot to me.
Speaker 16: And I want to go home now.
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I'm gonna go home now. Well, can someone
Speaker 6: let's sit and and Brett go home without interference?
Speaker 3: That would be nice. Nope, Nope, not this night. So Jr.
Speaker 6: Says, HBK A class act all the way, and they
Speaker 6: show us the final four finish.
Speaker 3: For the US titles the.
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Speaker 6: For the the Worldviews title, I said, show us, so
Speaker 6: US is in my mind? Sure So it's a Brett
Speaker 6: taker Steve Austin invader of course in that match. And
Speaker 6: it's the freeze frames. Remember they would only do the
Speaker 6: freeze frames at the time.
Speaker 3: Well for the first until the until they replay aired, right.
Speaker 6: I always used to love how the freeze frames were
Speaker 6: brought to you by WWF magazine. Like WWF magazine is
Speaker 6: publishing freeze frames of the video, Like is.
Speaker 3: There a photographer there or not? Right, What does the
Speaker 3: magazine have to do? I mean, also, you wouldn't see
Speaker 3: those fucking photos in the magazine either, those kind of
Speaker 3: freeze frames. Of course, the actual photographs.
Speaker 6: It's so weird as they was courtesy of w F Maga.
Speaker 6: Use the If you're gonna use freeze frames, just use
Speaker 6: some of the picture as you're in house photographers too, right,
Speaker 6: I guess they didn't have the turnaround time they needed
Speaker 6: for that.
Speaker 3: They show Vader with.
Speaker 6: That bloody eye, which was famous. They also put that
Speaker 6: on the cover of one of the early Raw magazines.
Speaker 6: I'm sure you remember that one. Yes, I do remember
Speaker 6: that one. That was a big only I got it,
Speaker 6: but I do remember it.
Speaker 3: I had that one.
Speaker 6: I jumped off the page, big bloody face of Vaders.
Speaker 6: Now that Raw magazine is hugually but Russo of course
Speaker 6: in charge of it, and he talks about that as
Speaker 6: being a real point of diversion in getting Vince McMahon
Speaker 6: to embrace a more attitudinal and riskue kind of a
Speaker 6: product direction. Is that Raw magazine and the way it
Speaker 6: hit And I remember they had an interview with with
Speaker 6: Vince about Kevin Nash leaving yep, yep, when you weren't
Speaker 6: supposed to even talk about that on television. Jar and
Speaker 6: Lawler narrating over the stills from Final four, a match
Speaker 6: that Jim Ross calls thirty minutes of hell. They show
Speaker 6: how Austin had been eliminated by Brett Hart and getting
Speaker 6: his knee hyper extended as he hit the floor, which
Speaker 6: indeed turned out to be a legitimate injury that Steve
Speaker 6: was wrestling with at the time. They show Brett's suplexing
Speaker 6: Vader in his freeze frame. That's something to see. Taker
Speaker 6: lowlowed Vader to eliminate him, and they emphasize that to
Speaker 6: sort of, I don't know, I guess protect Vader a bit,
Speaker 6: and that leaves Brett and.
Speaker 3: Taker one on one. As mentioned, I mean, after the
Speaker 3: whole fucking you know, dealing with Sean Michaels, there was
Speaker 3: no protecting Vader anymore. Right, it's over.
Speaker 6: We should mention too like Taker is now full transitioned
Speaker 6: out of the look. I mean, he does bring it
Speaker 6: back for one night at Wrestling thirteen with the gray Yeah,
Speaker 6: so weird, but yeah, this is post Buried Alive where
Speaker 6: we left you before we started the CID campaign. Yep,
Speaker 6: but now he's in all black that he debuted at
Speaker 6: Survivors Series ninety six. Austin comes up back out later
Speaker 6: and that final four matches Undertakers lifted, has lifted Brett
Speaker 6: Hart up for a tombstone, but Austin peels Bret off
Speaker 6: of the hole. Taker turns his attention to Austin and
Speaker 6: then Brett clothes lines him out. So you know, Taker
Speaker 6: has a claim. It's not like he just lost in
Speaker 6: the match clean, he lost the match because a bullshit.
Speaker 3: All right, So they're they're there, that's that's your claim
Speaker 3: right there for the yes for your title shot. That
Speaker 3: makes sense.
Speaker 6: And the whole time they're playing this club music that
Speaker 6: just screams late nineties. They really knew how to pick
Speaker 6: that stock music back then.
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, they really did.
Speaker 6: They make it sound like the best match ever, just
Speaker 6: the way they use the stills and the way it
Speaker 6: was a great match. But Jesus, like you really felt
Speaker 6: like you missed something watching the way they presented this
Speaker 6: thing the night after.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they did a good job with that.
Speaker 3: I mean it was you know, it's good, I mean,
Speaker 3: and you know, in a weird way, was really it
Speaker 3: was important for the time it was, you know, it
Speaker 3: really dictated the next few months.
Speaker 6: What's important for our time here is anything and everything
Speaker 6: that Sid does on this show. We go backstage to
Speaker 6: Kevin Kelly, who's holding a microphone, but that's about all
Speaker 6: he's doing because Sid has a lot to say.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, he does. Shut up.
Speaker 6: I want to tell you, absolutely perfect, what a show
Speaker 6: to serenade this guy, and that's all his greatest hits.
Speaker 3: He can fuck this is Sid. Shut up.
Speaker 2: He can't fucking.
Speaker 3: He's already said, motherfucker. He's already said damn it, damn it,
Speaker 3: damn it. Oh man, Sid, shut up.
Speaker 2: I want to tell you something right now. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: make you simple, not even if my leg was broken.
Speaker 4: Not sleep. So right on, hell, water or.
Speaker 3: Stove, ghost, forget.
Speaker 17: The wall.
Speaker 2: They federate your champions.
Speaker 3: And that statement says that I am the man, the man,
Speaker 3: I'm the ruler of the world. All right.
Speaker 6: That's like the post office slogan, neither sleet nor rain
Speaker 6: will stop, but I'm delivering the mail. Must have saw
Speaker 6: that commercially.
Speaker 3: I just had to send the guy a picture a
Speaker 3: picture post Office. He sent my church in Vienna's I'm
Speaker 3: gonna give him an homage. I loved.
Speaker 6: I loved on the last episode when people were like
Speaker 6: sending us little little bits of their favorites and someone
Speaker 6: some some guy said he spit out his water whatever one,
Speaker 6: Sid says, let me ask you something.
Speaker 3: Do you grow viennas the farmer? But what kind of
Speaker 3: condition to Sid's mee in? That is the question?
Speaker 6: Is we continue on this episode of Monday Night Raw,
Speaker 6: the classic raw music still playing?
Speaker 3: Yes, and J and Jr.
Speaker 6: Says one way or another that match will happen tonight.
Speaker 6: So they're not throwing your scent off the trail. They're
Speaker 6: not making me think that that match is off. They
Speaker 6: go to break to come back, some guy strumming a
Speaker 6: guitar at his Nashville after all, and Whiler asks, the question,
Speaker 6: is that the honky tonk man?
Speaker 3: Ohion, Wow, this whole fucking thing sh don't wow.
Speaker 6: It's time for Sable and Mark Merrow of course and
Speaker 6: Mark Merrow, Yes, I'm surprised to see him still walking
Speaker 6: as wild man this far in in ninety seven.
Speaker 3: Ten minutes in when we have our first match. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know he was, you know, he only was a
Speaker 3: wild man after he he only stopped The wild Man
Speaker 3: after he got injured and left right and then when
Speaker 3: we came back in the fall, he was marvelous coming
Speaker 3: off a tough victory. Jr.
Speaker 6: Says last night off the extra capable Leaf Cassidy, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, what the fuck Marrow and Cassidy were on pay
Speaker 3: per view even though it was it in your house, Like,
Speaker 3: come the fuck on, that's not a fucking pay per view.
Speaker 6: Spinning Sparkler is a company, The wild Man, the ring
Speaker 6: Jarr says, there's a darker side we're finding to Sable
Speaker 6: as well, and Oler says, she's got those shades and
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, she's she's swinging at people. She
Speaker 6: hit leaf Cassidy last night at Ringside, allowing Mark Merrow
Speaker 6: to suicide dive onto leave Cassidy, which I believe also
Speaker 6: tweaked hissnee. And yeah, they say, what's up with Sable
Speaker 6: is the real question? So it's starting to become more
Speaker 6: and more about saving Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, did I mean was that did Merrow know that?
Speaker 3: Was he okay with that? Was he fine with that?
Speaker 3: He was fine with that? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he thought it was. So there's a win for
Speaker 6: the family, right, It was a win for the joint
Speaker 6: bank account. Whatever wasn't till it wasn't until she thirsted
Speaker 6: for more.
Speaker 3: That's right, till first for Mark, that's the question, where
Speaker 3: is she thirsty?
Speaker 6: And we haven't seen her in fucking twelve years. She's
Speaker 6: up there in the snow somewhere. Brock's got her locked away.
Speaker 3: And I think I feel like he keeps under a
Speaker 3: tighter lock and key than Randy Savage keptualizething.
Speaker 6: So yeah, yeah, I remember they did a countdown UFC
Speaker 6: when he was in UFC and they showed her a
Speaker 6: little bit and she had like this like really fancy
Speaker 6: white puffer coat, like you'd wear it like a chalet
Speaker 6: in Switzerland or something. Of course, walking around in the
Speaker 6: snow up there and wherever he lives, Saskatchewan, God, can't
Speaker 6: you imagine what happens but Saskatchewan, what happens by like
Speaker 6: campfire up there on the bearskin rug?
Speaker 3: Like can you imagine? Like just okay, just think yourself, Okay,
Speaker 3: she just she doesn't like it, She just gives it.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 6: We're learning a lot about Brock through the lawsuit and everything,
Speaker 6: and it's pretty fascinating, Like and they kind of tell
Speaker 6: the story on the Netflix stock as well. It's like Vince,
Speaker 6: you know, why did Vince give Brock the keys to
Speaker 6: the castle. It wasn't just that UFC leverage that he had.
Speaker 6: It was respect for the fact that Vince thought he
Speaker 6: could have Sable And oh three, he's trying to make
Speaker 6: out whether her on TV yep, makes her his general
Speaker 6: managers for all that. So all the pretense he needs
Speaker 6: to get his rocks off and uh and Brock ends
Speaker 6: up with her. Brock ends up and they they.
Speaker 3: Share and they also they share you know, similar sexual appetite.
Speaker 8: Yep.
Speaker 6: I mean Vince is like, you know, offering to just
Speaker 6: send send him nudes if he resigns. I mean, yep,
Speaker 6: not out of himself, but of his Uh. I suppose
Speaker 6: we could call his girlfriend at the time unbelievable. Yep, unbelievable.
Speaker 6: So here comes up, speaking of unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Pg.
Speaker 6: Thirteen A K A. J. C. Isen wolfy D of
Speaker 6: the Nation of Domination. We're still rapping for to the
Speaker 6: ring at this point in time.
Speaker 3: I was here, I got I got this whole fucking yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they were just still doing the fucking rap thing. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, actually, in retrospect, it kind of worked more
Speaker 3: than I think I gave it credit for it. Back
Speaker 3: then we all day color differently.
Speaker 13: Simple.
Speaker 18: I'm saying real scul got the power.
Speaker 2: Quick love two together fe face on the bat podcasting.
Speaker 2: There's for reping dot Clarens Mason. What are they doing up?
Speaker 2: There's like he's a king looking over his kingdom. No offense.
Speaker 2: They're a key. Well, he's just ahead of a nation.
Speaker 2: It's like a nicktat, that's what he is. Jasey I said,
Speaker 2: we be fat Sisa.
Speaker 4: Dot cat because up.
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Speaker 3: Clarence Mason is the man crossing t's and dot ns.
Speaker 3: What's the He's such an odd individual, Clarence, Yes, very odd.
Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, his story was never a big fan of his.
Speaker 6: Now it's just a Tony Cochran thing. They thought it
Speaker 6: would be funny, yeah, to have their own version of that.
Speaker 3: So was it though? No, it absolutely was not.
Speaker 6: And I remember we did one brief thing on where
Speaker 6: he came from before, like he's an actual lawyer.
Speaker 3: A lawyer. Yeah, I knew that he was an actual lawyer.
Speaker 6: How he got in I don't remember, but for him,
Speaker 6: the bow ties everywhere as they're going for that aesthetic.
Speaker 6: You can imagine crushing di lo or in the nation
Speaker 6: at this time, fat ass d lo. This is a
Speaker 6: three hundred and thirty pounds d low. Fuka gets the
Speaker 6: fist up in the air and they respond in kind.
Speaker 6: The rest of the crew. Savia Vega, by the way,
Speaker 6: he joined them as well. By this point in time, Yes,
Speaker 6: this was that three. This was the three man nation.
Speaker 3: Right before they would, you know, then break up and
Speaker 3: have their their little you know, their little factions, their
Speaker 3: little gangs.
Speaker 6: It's pretty wild that they led a Puerto Rican into
Speaker 6: the fray. That is not in keeping with some of
Speaker 6: Malcolm Ex's philosophies. The organization of Afro American Unity in fact,
Speaker 6: differentiated Puerto Ricans as people who weren't enslaved, so therefore
Speaker 6: weren't necessarily positioned as the rest of the members of
Speaker 6: the Nation of Islam. So I'm sure that definitely went
Speaker 6: through their minds, and including Savia.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, I'm sure they were definitely you know, I
Speaker 3: can imagine that they were. That kind of detail was
Speaker 3: very important.
Speaker 6: Definitely wasn't as simple as his his skin isn't white.
Speaker 6: So we'll put them in the nation because you know,
Speaker 6: they put Owen in the nation. They put Crush in
Speaker 6: the name.
Speaker 3: That's true, that is true. Well you know crushes Awaiian
Speaker 3: with a face tattoo. Yeah, so he's you know, it
Speaker 3: was in jail.
Speaker 6: So he's JA calls this an elaborate street gang. It's
Speaker 6: just such a put down. It's like there's supposed to
Speaker 6: be these revolutionaries, you know, I know, and he likes
Speaker 6: but their heels though, so you get a you know,
Speaker 6: you get a bad mouth them.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, they can't celebrate them. If they were, if they
Speaker 3: were a babyface group, then then you know for sure
Speaker 3: they would, Yeah, they'd celebrate them as being revolutionaries.
Speaker 6: So it's mac Merrow versus Savia Vega. And you better
Speaker 6: believe this is the one thing. Steve Austin stops his
Speaker 6: pillaging to watch Savio is in the ring man best
Speaker 6: of all time.
Speaker 3: Also, can I tell you what the I Savio Vega
Speaker 3: is wearing the same fucking ring gear that he wore
Speaker 3: a baby face. It's not okay, like he should have
Speaker 3: changed it up, Like why is he wearing that fucking
Speaker 3: red shirt?
Speaker 6: Still gotta ask him that if we ever see him, idiot,
Speaker 6: we saw him at starcast. I had no idea what
Speaker 6: to ask. That'd be a good one. When you join
Speaker 6: the Nation, did you still wear the baby face?
Speaker 3: Why don't you wear your lame mass fucking clothes?
Speaker 6: Savio takes over with clubbing shots and takes Marrow into
Speaker 6: the corner. Savia, by the way, at the time, was
Speaker 6: the newest member of the Nation of Domination. We're told
Speaker 6: that Mark Maro with some arm drags and drop Kicksaveo
Speaker 6: out of the ring. And here's that flip dive that
Speaker 6: takes out a bunch of national members and hurts them.
Speaker 6: This gets us our PlayStation one double feature featuring Crash
Speaker 6: Bandicoot Boss. Oh, I can't all blocky and low res
Speaker 6: on the image, Like what a weird I mean.
Speaker 3: It's kind of funny like that, it's you know, it's
Speaker 3: still it's like the newest thing is like those graphics
Speaker 3: weren't even bad. I mean, obviously they are bad now
Speaker 3: for compared to you know, other you more modern consoles,
Speaker 3: but like it's so wacky to think that that that
Speaker 3: was best in class.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yep, and it really was revolutionary, really for an
Speaker 6: eight bit Nintendo kid, Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely. Station one was like fucking delivered from another planet.
Speaker 3: And it was so small.
Speaker 6: We think about the size of consoles now, think how
Speaker 6: small and you could hold the PS one controllers and
Speaker 6: you can still you know, like the almost like you
Speaker 6: can hold it like a steering wheel, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean no, now you get you need to.
Speaker 3: It's like it's almost It's just kind of funny in
Speaker 3: terms of video games. It's like the uh it works
Speaker 3: backwards from you know, regular computers. It's like they grow
Speaker 3: bigger as you get older. Like, assume we're gonna have
Speaker 3: a fucking PlayStation. It's the size of a fucking room.
Speaker 6: Well, they just packed some much more compute because they
Speaker 6: find so many things to do with them that require
Speaker 6: intense computing, like all this AI like chip sets, it's
Speaker 6: all from gaming. Yeah, you know, gaming was the one.
Speaker 6: It's like, okay, like, what's the most ridiculous fucking compute
Speaker 6: demand you can imagine in one form factor one device?
Speaker 6: It's scaming, you know, crypto minding, I guess, but yeah,
Speaker 6: they push the limits, and the more they stuck in there,
Speaker 6: the bigger processors they stuck in there, and the more
Speaker 6: chips you had to make it bigger. On like cell phones,
Speaker 6: where it's like, you know, you don't need it to
Speaker 6: at a certain point, a cell phone only needs to
Speaker 6: be so powerful because it's never gonna do you know,
Speaker 6: like really high intense computing, you know, right, it's not
Speaker 6: going to need to display as big and all that. Anyway.
Speaker 6: High Risk Personified is Mark Merrill j R. Sa'samed is
Speaker 6: released from Saint Memorial and Lowell, mass where he had
Speaker 6: been since last Thursday. So yeah, I'm ed hurt by
Speaker 6: the way too. Boss just doesn't stop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what I love is that he's
Speaker 3: been released, like he's talking about it. He got released
Speaker 3: as if he got released today, right, Yeah, he shows
Speaker 3: up with this fucking show. How fast can you get
Speaker 3: from Lowell to Nashville? I mean, I I just don't know.
Speaker 3: He took the just don't know, took the.
Speaker 6: Dustoy Express apparently, right, So yeah, Merrill comes up moving
Speaker 6: gingerly on the knee and come to find out he
Speaker 6: was hurt. And it's actually a fateful injury when you
Speaker 6: consider the career trajectory of Sable. She comes in and
Speaker 6: kicks jc Ice as he tries to pounce on Merrow.
Speaker 6: It was kind of funny, you know, here they are
Speaker 6: saying that there a triple as in China, talking in
Speaker 6: retrospect about how Vince was kind of looking at the
Speaker 6: with the side eye at this gimmick idea for China
Speaker 6: beating up on guys and Sables kicking everyone's ass.
Speaker 3: I mean that might have been it, like, well, we
Speaker 3: already got one, Yeah, why would I want two women?
Speaker 6: And I'm sure that was them seeing what Jackie was
Speaker 6: doing on Nitro and copying it too, because when Jackie
Speaker 6: comes in, who does she feud with?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: Yeap, So they're I think they they definitely saw her
Speaker 6: as they definitely saw what Jackie was doing and had
Speaker 6: Sable do the same thing. And then when they came in,
Speaker 6: they made natural allies or natural opponents. So a Sable
Speaker 6: kicks jc Ice as he tries to pounce on Mark
Speaker 6: Merrow's Sable in full leather body suits by this point,
Speaker 6: by the way, instead of just like the demure dresses
Speaker 6: she used to wear, Sable now is in the ring
Speaker 6: and she's being closed in on and then Mark Merrill
Speaker 6: covers her and the referee calls for the bell before
Speaker 6: anything even happens to her or Mark Merrow or anybody.
Speaker 6: And that's I'm at Johnson's cue as you mentioned, to
Speaker 6: hit the ring and the loosest pink painter's outfit you've
Speaker 6: ever seen.
Speaker 3: Oh I know, I know, I know what are these?
Speaker 3: By the way, wrote out To, wrote wrote, then I'm
Speaker 3: at Johnson wearing a salmon sweatsuit. Salmon runs to the ring,
Speaker 3: having just run all the way from Lowell.
Speaker 13: Ha ha.
Speaker 7: Like.
Speaker 3: Also, by the way, the the the it's actually the
Speaker 3: Saint's Medical Center, not sat Memorial Hospital. Oh very good,
Speaker 3: all right?
Speaker 6: In Lowell wo also wearing also wearing a salmon sweatsuit, Vader,
Speaker 6: but in the sense that Lady Gaga.
Speaker 3: Flavor and then flavored sweatsuits for those who like to
Speaker 3: sweat it out and then eat it out. I like that.
Speaker 13: I do that.
Speaker 3: I like eating out pussy.
Speaker 6: There's definitely no problem with fish smells as a regard
Speaker 6: to the Chairman, So I celebrate.
Speaker 3: I celebrate the scent of fish pussy. I definitely think
Speaker 3: he prefers it like to have a certain tang to it.
Speaker 3: Oh I believe. I definitely, yes, I definitely. I don't
Speaker 3: believe he is a he likes it too clean, right,
Speaker 3: he likes a little a little rough around the edges.
Speaker 6: There, unless it smells like sanitation. Biggie once said, yeah,
Speaker 6: definitely not, definitely not what Vin subscribes to. So two
Speaker 6: by four like a madman amed swinging, and Jay are
Speaker 6: is saying they're like yellow dogs talking about the nation.
Speaker 6: They're like yellow dogs. I love how the yellow dogs
Speaker 6: when the odds are just like even a little bit even,
Speaker 6: and no other yellow dogs were running away when it's like,
Speaker 6: well they could be unmatched here.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I mean, also, he's got a he's got
Speaker 3: a fucking weapon, you know, could have splinters.
Speaker 6: Are so many thirteen heat heat, that's what they decided on.
Speaker 6: Don't ask me what that was about.
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I mean I do remember that.
Speaker 3: I have the magazine where they kind of you know,
Speaker 3: that was the it was the it's a great cover.
Speaker 3: Actually it was it had like huh, it was I
Speaker 3: remember it. All four faces, all four faces it was
Speaker 3: you know, black, and their faces were kind of faded
Speaker 3: in and the you know heat and that's actually that's
Speaker 3: the magazine where they where they coin attitude at the end. Wow,
Speaker 3: they talk about attitude if that one's yeah right?
Speaker 6: So yeah, they're talking about heat as WrestleMania's theme Shytown Heat,
Speaker 6: I guess, presented by PlayStation with the Flaming Ar thirteen.
Speaker 3: Here comes Leave Cassidy SummerSlam, Feel the Heat go backstage.
Speaker 3: Brett is there?
Speaker 6: Well, it just seems every time I turn my back
Speaker 6: stone Hold turns sticks his nose in my business.
Speaker 3: Here I got, I got this one here for you.
Speaker 3: Why Brett incoming? Yep?
Speaker 11: Well, just seems that every time I turned my back
Speaker 11: stone Cold stick his nose with my business.
Speaker 3: And uh, I better get used to it, you know.
Speaker 11: But all I can do is focus on now, you know,
Speaker 11: every battle and try not to worry about it. You know,
Speaker 11: Psycho Sid's got a title shot. I'm assuming it's going
Speaker 11: to be a tough fight and he's going to be
Speaker 11: There'd be no excuses when he loses. And after I
Speaker 11: get done with Psycho Sid, I'll just look to the.
Speaker 17: Next match and the next match.
Speaker 2: In the next match, you're brushing off.
Speaker 11: Psychos, enough, brushing off anybody. As far as I'm concerned,
Speaker 11: They're all great contenders, but that's all they are.
Speaker 3: You know, you can only look out for number one.
Speaker 11: If you don't stop looking out for number one, you
Speaker 11: start stepping on number two. And I'm not gonna let
Speaker 11: any of that happen. I am the best there is,
Speaker 11: the best there was, and the best there ever will be.
Speaker 11: And this proves it for the fourth time very quickly.
Speaker 2: Here, what about wrestle many at thirteen?
Speaker 14: You could be facing the Undertaker if you're successful here.
Speaker 3: Tonight, bring them on, Bring on the Undertaker. I'm not
Speaker 3: afraid of the Undertaker.
Speaker 11: I wasn't afraid of them yesterday, and I'm not afraid
Speaker 11: of them tomorrow, and I'm not afraid of them today.
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid of anybody.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I bet you're real glad that stone Cole, Steve
Speaker 15: Austin injured, Psycho sids leg Aren't you hot up?
Speaker 1: Lawler?
Speaker 19: Ha?
Speaker 10: Ha?
Speaker 3: I do love I love that the that the Lawler
Speaker 3: Brett hartfeud is still going on.
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Speaker 6: They can't stand the sound of each other going on. Huh,
Speaker 6: they can't stand the sound of each other's voice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like like the fact that you know, even even
Speaker 3: he I don't think even Brett would be that rude
Speaker 3: to any other heel commentator. But shut up, Lawler. So awesome.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that was a good promo from Brett because
Speaker 6: he you know, he wasn't fully whiny yet he was whining,
Speaker 6: but that was like, yes, that's kind of what you
Speaker 6: would expect a respectable babyface to say about the predicament
Speaker 6: he was in. Yeah, I agree, he's not He's not
Speaker 6: you know, crying foul quite yet. He's not talking about
Speaker 6: how everything's corrupted. He's just trying to He's trying to
Speaker 6: countenance it as somebody that has, you know, dignity even
Speaker 6: when under fire, and of course that would crack as
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety seven continue.
Speaker 3: Did he say he get after the Royalm thing? Did
Speaker 3: he say gets screwed? Is that when he did he
Speaker 3: coim that? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he talked about it a lot. I remember
Speaker 6: if he used the word screwed or not. I think
Speaker 6: he did actually because.
Speaker 3: I remember I remember him. I remember him starting to
Speaker 3: use the word screwed in early ninety seven. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: remember when exactly, but I do remember him saying he
Speaker 3: gets screwed a lot.
Speaker 6: I guess there's new law the World Wrestling Federation. Scratch
Speaker 6: my back and I'll stab yours.
Speaker 3: Welcome the fucking real world, Brett. It comes Rocky from
Speaker 3: the South Pacific to reaction the Rocky the South Pacific
Speaker 3: wonder glad they didn't use that one, The South Pacific
Speaker 3: wonder Rocky might via I'm surprised they didn't use that.
Speaker 6: One, the South Pacific wonder why he's on the roster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, there it is.
Speaker 6: He's out there with a strap, glad handing ja Or
Speaker 6: says he's a fine young man. A blue chipper, no
Speaker 6: doubt about it.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the blue chipper comment. Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when I'm on the plane, I always prefer the
Speaker 6: regular chips. Yeah, blue tortillas or so had just become
Speaker 6: the champion. Back when they actually looked back to this
Speaker 6: bad as I noted, this is back when rock actually
Speaker 6: looked Polynesian, before all the work made it look like
Speaker 6: some some Germanic.
Speaker 3: Like you know, it looked like a fucking you know,
Speaker 3: just a piece of rock. Yeah, like a fucking like
Speaker 3: something fucking chisel out of stone on the marble as
Speaker 3: he is now, like he's not he's not human at all.
Speaker 3: It's not his skin, it's just covering. It's it's like
Speaker 3: it's like for a sausages casing speaking of a German
Speaker 3: chasing around his giant fucking physique. I mean, if he.
Speaker 6: Didn't have those tribal tattoos, like if he still was
Speaker 6: like tattoo free, the guy would not even look some
Speaker 6: owen to me.
Speaker 3: He was, oh, not at all, No, not at all, No,
Speaker 3: he looked. No, he does not look simone at all.
Speaker 3: He looks I mean he's got because you think about
Speaker 3: like you look at him here, he's had that fucking baby.
Speaker 6: Fat face and he hadn't had the bitch yet, so
Speaker 6: he still yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he waves his hands like a goof
Speaker 3: when he fucking does a baby face move.
Speaker 6: And the hair, oh god, that hair man, what was
Speaker 6: he thinking?
Speaker 3: I would love, you know what, I would love for
Speaker 3: Rock to grow his hair out. I probably can at
Speaker 3: this point, but I would love Rock now to grow
Speaker 3: his hair out like it was. Can you imagine, like
Speaker 3: you know, you go see a movie and there he
Speaker 3: is with that fucking hair like that. I would kill
Speaker 3: looking for it, if I mean, it would ruin his career.
Speaker 3: I think Duwaye Johnson needs to go as Rocky my
Speaker 3: Va for Halloween. I think so too.
Speaker 6: So Okay, I don't know what I wrote. I know
Speaker 6: you want me, Oh say Sonny, Okay.
Speaker 3: Oh, here comes Sonny, Here comes Sonny. Yep. Sonny is
Speaker 3: the guest timekeeper. And guess what if Sonny's coming down?
Speaker 3: Even in ninety even in early ninety seven, King is
Speaker 3: going after her tits.
Speaker 15: Hot center before. I don't know what the seven wonders
Speaker 15: of the world are, but Sonny's got too.
Speaker 3: I'm a beautiful such a fucking king. Why don't should
Speaker 3: talk about her tits? Talk about her? Say there, say
Speaker 3: their natural cair shot King, Say they're natural wonders of
Speaker 3: the world, and say how much you want to put
Speaker 3: your face in them? Call them luscious, call them luscious,
Speaker 3: call them luscious. Uh uh sensuous memory, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: compliment on her luscious sensuous memory. Glands glandular activity like
Speaker 3: worry my glandular base glands.
Speaker 6: I thought it was about brands. Okay, the gland extension.
Speaker 6: That was the first personal amusement that wasn't for the roster.
Speaker 3: We've got the Raw Land and the smack tone Gland.
Speaker 6: This is them trying to figure out what to do
Speaker 6: with Sonny after the Faruk headgear thing didn't work out,
Speaker 6: by the way, which is nothing.
Speaker 3: There's no idea I think about what Sonny was like,
Speaker 3: Sonny was nothing. She didn't wrestle. She was just an
Speaker 3: attraction if.
Speaker 6: Somebody kept around for photo shoots, honestly, like because yeah,
Speaker 6: a magazine photo spread.
Speaker 3: Sure she'd make weekly appearances on Raw, but like she
Speaker 3: wouldn't she like go out like do commentary or do
Speaker 3: like this ring announcing like she would. She did nothing.
Speaker 3: She didn't manage anybody again until the Legion of Doom.
Speaker 3: But it is kind of a map. That was great. Yeah,
Speaker 3: well that was a ninety eight.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but that was a peak of this peak of
Speaker 6: the attitude era in that like they're just like, Okay,
Speaker 6: she's hot, put her on TV, whereas before, yeah, she
Speaker 6: was always hot, but it was like she's got to
Speaker 6: be a manager, she's got to be involved in a
Speaker 6: tag team program, she's got to have a wrestler that
Speaker 6: she's involved with. Or something or a program. But here
Speaker 6: they're just putting her out there, you know, yeah, Willie Nilly.
Speaker 6: They're just like, show her.
Speaker 3: That was the Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's kind of what
Speaker 3: it was. So what yeah think?
Speaker 6: Introduces her the One and Only Sonny. She comes out
Speaker 6: in a pink dress with a white boa lallor perving.
Speaker 3: As you mentioned. She throws the boa around.
Speaker 6: Rocky's neck and he just looks at her like she
Speaker 6: disgusts him really kind of a kind of a heel
Speaker 6: reaction to her a bit.
Speaker 3: But I know it's kind of a dick move too,
Speaker 3: like what was he doing that for?
Speaker 6: And then suddenly they show her backstage shooting a feature
Speaker 6: for Entertainment Tonight, actually on being the Queen of Cyberspace,
Speaker 6: the most downloaded celebrity, nail or his history.
Speaker 3: The most downloaded celebrity. That's that's the term they use.
Speaker 3: That's wild. Did you ever look at like, so what
Speaker 3: does that mean? Actually? I don't notice him what that meant,
Speaker 3: like downloaded celebrity?
Speaker 6: I think what they what they mean by that? And
Speaker 6: if I'm remembering how the AOL interface used to work,
Speaker 6: you know, if you downloaded a picture, you had to
Speaker 6: go into like you didn't look at a website. You
Speaker 6: had to go into like a like a server room almost,
Speaker 6: and like it was like a master list. There wasn't
Speaker 6: even thumbnails, Like you just had to kind of guess
Speaker 6: what the picture was going to be by reading the
Speaker 6: text description of it.
Speaker 3: Wow, and then you would.
Speaker 6: I think, what's key is that it it wasn't like
Speaker 6: it wasn't like the WWF pictures were in like a
Speaker 6: discrete kind of room. I thought they were all congealed together.
Speaker 6: But the interface looked the same if you were downloading
Speaker 6: a WWF picture or a NBA picture or anything like that.
Speaker 6: So I think they actually used to just keep track
Speaker 6: of like how many downloads each picture got on AOL,
Speaker 6: and it was it was easy for them to do
Speaker 6: that because you couldn't I think what I'm trying to
Speaker 6: say is you couldn't view a picture without downloading it.
Speaker 6: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah sure.
Speaker 6: And so when you hear most downloaded, you're like, well,
Speaker 6: what about like, are you really like view it measuring
Speaker 6: how many times someone laid their eyes on this picture.
Speaker 3: Of son right? Right? I mean, well, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: I yeah, it was such a weird. I didn't really
Speaker 3: know what that meant at the time, even I mean
Speaker 3: I still don't know what it means. Like it just
Speaker 3: it doesn't make any sense. It's a weird I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm sure the terminologies is different than what it was,
Speaker 3: but it's like, like, again, what do people do take
Speaker 3: like take the pictures? Do they?
Speaker 13: Did?
Speaker 3: They keep them for themselves?
Speaker 6: Yeah, you would just download it to your hard drive
Speaker 6: and if they were revealing enough, it would be a
Speaker 6: really hard drive. But yeh, that's how you did it, man.
Speaker 6: Like I said, you couldn't really view there were images
Speaker 6: that would kind of be embedded in like the keyword,
Speaker 6: a keyword WWF landing page. Yeah, but before most people
Speaker 6: thought of the Internet is the World Wide Web and
Speaker 6: thought more of it as the AOL design environment. Like
Speaker 6: you just if you wanted to view pictures, you had
Speaker 6: to go into a room and download it. You couldn't
Speaker 6: just look at them otherwise. I just went on your
Speaker 6: computer and then you could open it right and it
Speaker 6: took minutes download a single image. It wasn't like instantaneous.
Speaker 6: I think that that's kind of what it was. Even
Speaker 6: if you designed a website to just display one hundred
Speaker 6: images like we have today, it would take an hour
Speaker 6: to load it, so it didn't even make sense to
Speaker 6: design your website that way. But if people wanted to
Speaker 6: see pictures as they wanted to do, when they would
Speaker 6: type in a company's keyword, you would send them to
Speaker 6: the picture room. Then they would download the pictures. It's
Speaker 6: so weird to think about now, man, it's so fucking weird.
Speaker 17: Souse.
Speaker 6: I can remember it. And the thing is not only
Speaker 6: that I remember. I remember thinking it was the coolest
Speaker 6: fucking thing in the world. I remember, being, of course
Speaker 6: so enticed, like, oh my god, I get pictures of
Speaker 6: these wrestlers, and I had a collection of wrestlers holding
Speaker 6: title belts. I remember like, if anyone ever had a belt,
Speaker 6: I wanted a picture them with the belt. I was
Speaker 6: like obsessed with that, using like different software to capture
Speaker 6: images and things that that would have come across. And yeah,
Speaker 6: the etpiece they're talking about, uh, and they show her
Speaker 6: looking over some of the picture she took in the
Speaker 6: photo shoot actually aired on Entertainment Tonight. And if you
Speaker 6: want to get an idea how Sunny was presented at
Speaker 6: the time, here you go. This is the piece as
Speaker 6: it aired on ET back then.
Speaker 17: Okay, okay, gang, forget the pins. The fans of pro
Speaker 17: wrestling want to pin up. They call her Sonny, and
Speaker 17: she is quickly rising through the ranks of the ring.
Speaker 9: Oh.
Speaker 3: One word crazy.
Speaker 20: You've got to be crazy to do.
Speaker 3: What I'm doing.
Speaker 17: When you think of the backbreaking, bone crushing world of
Speaker 17: professional wrestling, these guys usually leap to mind. But wrestling's
Speaker 17: brightest star is only five to six and weighs one
Speaker 17: hundred and twenty pounds.
Speaker 4: Ryan.
Speaker 2: People who can't get over restless, look at me, here's
Speaker 2: a better you.
Speaker 17: She's known as Sonny, and she's winning over fans as
Speaker 17: the World Wrestling Federation sexy color commentator.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable man on a mission.
Speaker 13: Absolutely, some people tell me they love me, some people
Speaker 13: tell me they hate me.
Speaker 3: They want to want me to have their told her
Speaker 3: and everything.
Speaker 17: When New York's Penn Station was taken over for a
Speaker 17: live wrestling match, Sonny was there to get pulses racing.
Speaker 3: Take to get out there and do your thing and
Speaker 3: have them tant your name.
Speaker 2: It's a pretty wild rush.
Speaker 17: You can even find Sonny on the internet. These sexy
Speaker 17: shots have made her the most downloaded, thin up girl
Speaker 17: in history.
Speaker 10: Hey, tee.
Speaker 15: Here we are with an exclusive photo suit just for
Speaker 15: you who are at one point five million downloads.
Speaker 20: And hopefully this sheep will make it too mean. Hey
Speaker 20: watch that angle, buddy.
Speaker 17: And as this blonde bombshell continues to dazzle her fans,
Speaker 17: you can bet there will be more sunny days ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm having a good tire, you.
Speaker 17: Well believe it or not. Working in the wrestling ring
Speaker 17: was not Sonny's original dream when she was just a
Speaker 17: budding little sunbeam.
Speaker 3: She wanted to be a doctor, a budding little sunbeam. Yes, nineties,
Speaker 3: that presentation, it ends the music, the whole fucking thing.
Speaker 3: They called her the biggest star in wrestling. I hope
Speaker 3: Sean didn't hear that a little late.
Speaker 6: You know, it's like in ninety six, you know, she
Speaker 6: was a phenomenon, but by now it's kind of like,
Speaker 6: what's she doing here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't as good. I agree.
Speaker 6: She's kind of like running on the fumes of all
Speaker 6: that ninety six buzz that she had. You know, one
Speaker 6: point two one point four million pictures downloaded. I wonder
Speaker 6: what was I wonder what use those pictures were put to?
Speaker 6: You know, that's what That's something I always wanted, of course.
Speaker 3: I mean, well I know exactly what they were put too,
Speaker 3: just the sound.
Speaker 6: Of oh my god, many packard bells stained. Oh as
Speaker 6: a result, you know it. I mean, that's what they're saying.
Speaker 6: They're saying. What they're saying is one point four million
Speaker 6: people masturbated.
Speaker 3: To Susy exactly what it was, which is crazy dial
Speaker 3: up speeds. You know, man, it was a time. It
Speaker 3: was a time.
Speaker 6: And to think where she ended up, you know, all
Speaker 6: this titillation. Oh my god, I know she ends up,
Speaker 6: you know, getting absolutely blitzed on camera in the throes
Speaker 6: of you know, a tough spot, I mean the gravelly voice,
Speaker 6: tough spot.
Speaker 3: And now she's in prison. I mean, what the fuck
Speaker 3: is going on?
Speaker 6: What is such as Lawler says he'll see her in
Speaker 6: his dreams, and she'll probably see you Jr.
Speaker 3: In her dreams if she eats too much.
Speaker 6: Okay, she rings the bell, I swear to god, she
Speaker 6: rings it.
Speaker 3: Ding ding ding, ring the fucking bell.
Speaker 6: Rocky versus Leaf Cassidy.
Speaker 3: Here As j R.
Speaker 6: Gives the third generation history lesson, which is of course obligatory.
Speaker 3: Back then for rock what's that a main event? Nowhere?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that one calls Rocky the luckiest kid on Earth.
Speaker 3: Rock with the rock right hands you know those go oh,
Speaker 3: I know, I fucking you you want you you? The
Speaker 3: right hand goes way back, yep, the front arm goes
Speaker 3: way forward so much. Yeah, and then like he's also
Speaker 3: gonna have his legs like yep, his feet have gotta
Speaker 3: be further than his shoulders apart. And then just fucking
Speaker 3: throw its soe like he's thrown in football. Really is
Speaker 3: what it is?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, it's take a football stance and he doesn't
Speaker 6: spit on his hand yet to finish the thing off.
Speaker 3: No, no, I mean also it's not nearly as clean
Speaker 3: as that would be to become too. It's just this weird, sloppy,
Speaker 3: stupid thing that he does.
Speaker 17: Right.
Speaker 6: It's actually punctuated with the clothes line out of the
Speaker 6: ring leaf. Cassidy hits the floor leaf then flips it
Speaker 6: over a rock drop down, but Rocky with a crossbody
Speaker 6: in an arm draggedcounter cut a Triple H watching in
Speaker 6: the split screen on the back. He's asked his thoughts
Speaker 6: on the new Winter Continental Champion, and Triple H says
Speaker 6: he's nothing but the luckiest punk in the world. You
Speaker 6: couldn't beat me again in a million years. Fascinating considering
Speaker 6: where these two would go. I know right he said
Speaker 6: gold dust got the better of him last night. Because
Speaker 6: of gold dust, he tripped over towards there. I think
Speaker 6: a bit lightest.
Speaker 3: Did I get this? I did? I did? I did
Speaker 3: take this one here. Listen to game talk.
Speaker 2: My thoughts on Rocky Maya Beer. He's nothing but the
Speaker 2: monkeyest punk in the world. Monkey is Rocky Maya be
Speaker 2: you beating me, You couldn't beat me again in.
Speaker 19: A million years. And now my focus is set on
Speaker 19: you and what I want. I get Rocky Maya Beer.
Speaker 19: You have my intercontinental title and I'm coming after you.
Speaker 19: And Hunter Hers Townsman always get he wants.
Speaker 3: Say that again.
Speaker 6: It's yeah, I'll say, Lightest, go Rocky go chant you've
Speaker 6: ever heard here in the building, And Leif has came
Speaker 6: no shit out of Rocky For a minute, Lawler compares
Speaker 6: Rocky to Tiger Woods, who apparently had just lost some
Speaker 6: big golf match that past weekend. Signed behind Jay and
Speaker 6: Lawler reads e c W rules and oh yeah, and
Speaker 6: this is Nashville.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's it, and King takes that for
Speaker 3: a yeah, uh uh, you know it takes that sign
Speaker 3: and sees it and does this shit on it.
Speaker 6: It's nineteen ninety seven for sure. And this being Nashville
Speaker 6: as opposed to Philly. Something tells me that sign is
Speaker 6: exactly organically placed. There probably some strategic sign making there
Speaker 6: from the company. And yeah, they're talking about rogging back
Speaker 6: to the Manhattan Center, which of course is where it
Speaker 6: all started. And then they plug the Berlin show. There's
Speaker 6: some serendipity as we were rolling into the Berlin pay
Speaker 6: per view as we started this thing, Go Rocky Go
Speaker 6: Chance from two rather suss fans in the front row
Speaker 6: in Sean Michael's T shirts. I don't I'm not entirely.
Speaker 6: I know you got to leave open the possibility. Leaf
Speaker 6: works the arm for days on Rocky. What are they
Speaker 6: noting this on television?
Speaker 3: I mean right like.
Speaker 6: They still hadn't worked this part of it out of
Speaker 6: their system where it's like, Okay, we can do crazy stuff,
Speaker 6: but we gotta.
Speaker 3: Slow it down.
Speaker 6: After that, we got to get people right back down
Speaker 6: to like, you know, some hammer locks and it's like why,
Speaker 6: like why do you have to do that? And they
Speaker 6: were still doing it here. That's the kind of the
Speaker 6: things Vince Russo would be most frustrated about. I mean
Speaker 6: when he took it, when he got full reins, matches
Speaker 6: were fucking two and a half.
Speaker 3: I know, they were so short.
Speaker 6: Guys hit the ropes like six times in a minute.
Speaker 6: You know, they just hit the ropes over and over again.
Speaker 6: It's all they had time for. Jared says, it's all
Speaker 6: about the tension on the elbow joint, so that makes.
Speaker 3: It more interesting. I suppose, Well, thanks Jr.
Speaker 6: They literally split screen the whole time because the match
Speaker 6: is so boring to show Sonny's cleavage to keep people interested,
Speaker 6: and that's kind of what they would do. They were like, Okay,
Speaker 6: now we got to have a match, because this has
Speaker 6: to be a wrestling show. It's going to get us
Speaker 6: through a couple of segs. But what we'll do is
Speaker 6: we'll split screen and cut away all kinds of other
Speaker 6: titillation during the course of it, be at backstage interviews,
Speaker 6: be it women.
Speaker 3: That's that's how they would do it.
Speaker 6: And you see that really you see that strategy really
Speaker 6: start to come into relief on this show. I feel
Speaker 6: like it's like every time the action slows down, they've
Speaker 6: got something to show you.
Speaker 3: Commensurate with it.
Speaker 6: So a leaf clamp's top rope, Rocky cuts them off
Speaker 6: and kind of gives them the work flair toss off
Speaker 6: the top rope. They cut to Lawler jaw jacking another example, right,
Speaker 6: you got Lawler yep engaged with the ECW fanholder sign
Speaker 6: holders during the course of this match. They cut away
Speaker 6: to that the rock they called on the rock doesn't
Speaker 6: he on commentary, he does.
Speaker 3: I don't even I didn't even hear that, he says,
Speaker 3: I don't hear that one at all.
Speaker 6: And then he goes up top. The rock goes upstairs
Speaker 6: and uh, he hits a huge cross body and he
Speaker 6: bounces up before one.
Speaker 3: I know, the fucking the fucking crossbody. That's that's his.
Speaker 3: Uh you know, that's his, that's his that's like his
Speaker 3: go to move at this time.
Speaker 6: Well, that's what kind of weird about it, because he
Speaker 6: hits it perfectly and he doesn't cover him. He just
Speaker 6: gets up Like that move is like devastating as opposed
Speaker 6: to like a Penning predicament move.
Speaker 3: I mean, especially given a guy he said, well, he
Speaker 3: was like what two sixty at this point, Yeah, and
Speaker 3: he took flight. Yeah, you know, he was huge. I
Speaker 3: mean it was part of the whole.
Speaker 6: It was fucking great when he did it wrestle, meaning
Speaker 6: against John Cena. When he came back. I yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 6: That was such a good idea to bring that one back.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 6: And then after that he has to do his actual finisher,
Speaker 6: which is that whack ass shoulder breaker he used to do.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, what do you do? What a
Speaker 3: dumb ass move? What you don't you know?
Speaker 7: Paw?
Speaker 3: You know what I think is really the movie you
Speaker 3: should do. I mean, I know you can do this
Speaker 3: high flying stuff, and that's great for a guy your size.
Speaker 3: I think that's great. It's a nice you know. What
Speaker 3: that is is kind of the special attraction about you.
Speaker 3: But when you come down to it, you've got to
Speaker 3: have a real grounded move base. And what I think
Speaker 3: you should do as as a as a finishing maneuver
Speaker 3: is I think the nerve hold. You got some nerve hold.
Speaker 3: You know, you can call it. We can call it
Speaker 3: the the Samoan squeeze or something, the uh, the the
Speaker 3: the Samoan power sucker or something.
Speaker 6: The Rocky my Via just realized his family's lifelong dream.
Speaker 6: He's become wif champion to wrestle me, and you're using
Speaker 6: the Samoan power sucker. That's a wrestling maybe a moment.
Speaker 3: He just puts the nerve hold on somebody and the
Speaker 3: guy Samoan it's a stronger hold, right, so you know
Speaker 3: you can order. There's see these Samoan submission maneuvers.
Speaker 6: So yeah, the shoulder breaker is good for the one
Speaker 6: two three. Rocky might via pens leave Cassidy here. On
Speaker 6: the February seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven edition of Monday Night
Speaker 6: Raw Sunny rings the ball and holds up a Sonny
Speaker 6: for President's sign. YEP, good for her, I vote for
Speaker 6: Dwayne Johnson would hold up a Rocky for President signed
Speaker 6: some years later, cut T Lawlor on the sign.
Speaker 3: Boy, here we go. Listen to this, listen and go.
Speaker 15: I want to take just a second here because that
Speaker 15: you saw Sonny there, you get.
Speaker 2: You got some kids, you got some people in the
Speaker 2: stands with all of these signs and everything, and I.
Speaker 4: Get I get every Let me tell.
Speaker 3: You, oh yeah, you think for one.
Speaker 2: Minute anybody knows anything about these w Do you ever
Speaker 2: know what he CW is.
Speaker 15: Ross I guarantee ninety nine percent of the people in
Speaker 15: the world have never heard of dc W WE do.
Speaker 21: Let me tell you no, I'm just hang on a second.
Speaker 15: Did you ever see that movie Escape from New York HU,
Speaker 15: where Manhattan Islands was turned into a like a prison,
Speaker 15: a place where a bunch of thugs and misfits.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what ECW is. It's just a place where
Speaker 2: a bunch of misfits and.
Speaker 21: A bunch of hatspins who couldn't think.
Speaker 15: It in the WW had migrated you and it's up.
Speaker 15: It's Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. And every week I'm sick and tired
Speaker 15: of idiots like this coming and waving signs in my
Speaker 15: face and waving them on this TV show.
Speaker 4: I'm sick coming. Well you know what, Well, I'm not
Speaker 4: taking out on you.
Speaker 15: I'm telling everybody, Hey, I in a friend of mine
Speaker 15: go to a w c W match down in my
Speaker 15: hometown of Memphis.
Speaker 2: He trying to take in a sign that said Jerry.
Speaker 7: Lower on it.
Speaker 2: Thank took it away from me.
Speaker 3: Well, we don't leave.
Speaker 2: A freedom means you.
Speaker 21: Believe in freedom of speech, but I don't.
Speaker 3: I think this duff in the front of crap awesome.
Speaker 3: He was good at that. He was He was very
Speaker 3: good at that he's.
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Speaker 6: And then he he challenges him and he says, yeah,
Speaker 6: come on down, let's see if you got anything. I
Speaker 6: think you're a bunch of goofs. And next week show
Speaker 6: us what you got. So that's the plug for the show.
Speaker 6: We mentioned that famous ECW invasion Raw We take a Break,
Speaker 6: We come back. Goldust music is playing and they inform
Speaker 6: us that last night at Final four in the pay
Speaker 6: per view, Marlena was attacked by a fan who is
Speaker 6: that fan boy.
Speaker 3: China Yes Yea.
Speaker 6: During the course of the match with Triple Ah and
Speaker 6: gold Dust, Marlena kind of wandered over to the edge
Speaker 6: of the guardrail and that's when China rises up from
Speaker 6: the front row and a muscle shirt and just starts
Speaker 6: choking the life out of her. And that was in
Speaker 6: fact the WWF fans int introduction to China, and they
Speaker 6: show gold Dust getting distract. There was actually Goldlest versus Rocky.
Speaker 6: I think it was Goldiest versus Rocky that this happened
Speaker 6: during and Rocky German suplex is triple H. Maybe it's
Speaker 6: maybe it's Rocky versus Triple H. I don't fucking know.
Speaker 6: But Rocky does a German suplex and it's hilarious.
Speaker 3: That's all I mark it.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 6: Kevin Kelly's in the ring with Goldust and Marlena Goldust
Speaker 6: drops to drops to a knee and calls her mom.
Speaker 6: And Goldust as everyone knows, I'm from the hills of Hollywood.
Speaker 6: But this is not the hills of Hollywood, is it?
Speaker 6: This is reality here?
Speaker 3: I got this one too for you. This, this is
Speaker 3: a this is a yeah, this is interesting.
Speaker 6: This is reality, hung Goldust, who wants to tell him?
Speaker 7: Here we go.
Speaker 13: I think there's a lot I need to clear up tonight.
Speaker 13: From the beginning, from the very first premiere of gold
Speaker 13: Dust to Nina, there's been speculation.
Speaker 3: Such passionate your voice too by the great promo.
Speaker 13: And a whole lot of question about gold dust masculinity, yeah,
Speaker 13: and about his manhood for lack of Granted, we play a.
Speaker 3: Lot of games, but tell me more, please right what
Speaker 3: coming games you play?
Speaker 10: What?
Speaker 17: What?
Speaker 13: Let me go on record right now and say that
Speaker 13: from his precious golden head to his golden feet.
Speaker 3: He is all man because of course if he was gay,
Speaker 3: he'd be a heel.
Speaker 6: Well, and what makes him all man is he fucks
Speaker 6: the shit out of her. That's what we're supposed to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she sounds like she.
Speaker 13: Knows from experience, and Hunter Hurst Helmsley, he is more
Speaker 13: of a man than you will ever.
Speaker 2: Ever be me.
Speaker 6: And you take that out of context, it sounds like
Speaker 6: she's saying Hunter Hers Helmsley is more of a man
Speaker 6: than gold Dust ever will be.
Speaker 3: It's very true.
Speaker 6: Actually, if you just cut that one little bart out,
Speaker 6: you know. And she blows cigar smoke and she blows
Speaker 6: dustin as well around him. And here's Triple H. He's
Speaker 6: pointing at gold Dust. If I want her, I'll take her. God,
Speaker 6: all this takes off the way Triple H throws water
Speaker 6: at his face and Triple H gets on him and
Speaker 6: beats his ass, and pedigrees who are already starting to
Speaker 6: learn how things work around you.
Speaker 3: He's already paid on listen listen right you know? Uh,
Speaker 3: this is this is the this is the future right here. Okay,
Speaker 3: this is what we have.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I kind of the soft launch of the triple
Speaker 6: H dominates fucking motif.
Speaker 3: You ever did he do that to uh gold Dust
Speaker 3: like in two thousand and two? Did he do that too?
Speaker 6: I think he had his Yeah, I think he got
Speaker 6: his hands on him during that Reign of Terror. Yeah
Speaker 6: maybe three remember yep. And so he lays him out
Speaker 6: with the pedigree and Marlena slaps him to a pop
Speaker 6: and then you know a time it is China and
Speaker 6: slips into the ring and there's that woman again, that
Speaker 6: Amazon and this is the famous thing where she grabs
Speaker 6: her by in the waist like in a wastelock and
Speaker 6: rag dolls her.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Here I got this one too.
Speaker 22: Here there's a moment again, huge moment, Helena secular.
Speaker 4: And squeeze a whole light a little more Lena.
Speaker 7: There.
Speaker 22: That's the same moment that was a tip the last night,
Speaker 22: protacking more Lena.
Speaker 3: Her over.
Speaker 2: She may have just busted up Marlena's rips. Just squeezing
Speaker 2: the life Lena's a huge moment.
Speaker 22: And amos on the woman attacking mar Lena for the
Speaker 22: second time in twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: Who is this?
Speaker 2: Who is this person?
Speaker 3: That's the question?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that she did a great job, Marlena did taking
Speaker 6: that rag doll thing.
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, oh god, how how look I don't
Speaker 3: even know how the fuck she did what she did.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy how she how she just like flails
Speaker 3: around like and makes it look like she's getting murdered.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she just thrashes about in the way she uses
Speaker 6: her long hair. She's like floating almost to her feet
Speaker 6: are not touching the ground, and she's being like manipulated
Speaker 6: at the waist, tilting left to right and just thrashing
Speaker 6: left to her She's like a yep, Elizabeth whatever in
Speaker 6: us in a Showgirls in the pool?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Elizabeth by Berkeley. Yes, yeah, it's getting
Speaker 3: fucking dominated by was it? I mean, not even dominated,
Speaker 3: she's dominated. Oh yeah.
Speaker 6: Uh Kyle McLaughlin, she gets him in the pool and
Speaker 6: she gets exactly what she came for, basically exactly what
Speaker 6: we all what she needed, what we all need.
Speaker 3: Great scene.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and uh here Martolena going for a different kind
Speaker 6: of ride and gets laid out. And she was, you know,
Speaker 6: obviously so petite and so like, Oh my god, the
Speaker 6: size differential was such a great visual, such a great idea.
Speaker 3: Oh you do this. She's so tiny, especially you know,
Speaker 3: compared to to China.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, And you know, I don't know surprisingly little set
Speaker 6: about this, like it's not called out in the book
Speaker 6: or anything.
Speaker 3: China did.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 6: Marlena did once to do a sit down and interview
Speaker 6: I think it was for a video with Tommy Dreamer,
Speaker 6: and she did say that she couldn't move the next
Speaker 6: day after doing this thing, but asked for that she
Speaker 6: wanted that she she would. She talked about how like
Speaker 6: when China came in, I'm like, please make it look good,
Speaker 6: like she wanted to do things on television that looked real,
Speaker 6: and even if that came, it a a bit of
Speaker 6: personal expense to herself.
Speaker 3: So she definitely was sore the next day from this one.
Speaker 6: But yeah, I'm sure they keep calling her that Amazon,
Speaker 6: which is the same thing I said when electric delivery
Speaker 6: truck whirs down my street for the sixth time in
Speaker 6: the afternoon. So then the head Bangers now on their
Speaker 6: way to the ring. And who are they facing, unbelievable
Speaker 6: the Hardys. Yes, as a team as the Hardy Boys.
Speaker 3: As as if I didn't need to suffer enough here.
Speaker 6: SIS air traffic controller is needed to monitor this matchup
Speaker 6: as the head head Banger is about to embark on
Speaker 6: pretty much the biggest push they would get. They'd win
Speaker 6: the Belts at rust May thirteen, right in that fatal
Speaker 6: four way.
Speaker 3: No, they win a shot at the belts. Shot at
Speaker 3: the Belts. Yeah, they wouldn't win the Belts. They win
Speaker 3: the Belts later.
Speaker 6: They're facing off against the Heart when they win, they
Speaker 6: know they wanted a later.
Speaker 3: I don't remember when they wanted because it was Bulldog
Speaker 3: and Owen until Austin and Michaels beat them. Then they
Speaker 3: were up for grabs. Never won them. They did win them.
Speaker 3: I know they did win them. I think it was
Speaker 3: in the fall, uncomfortable because I feel like they get
Speaker 3: round zero. Maybe they did a ground they had a
Speaker 3: very short rain. But I do remember that the that
Speaker 3: them winning it actually got me into them for a moment. Sure,
Speaker 3: like it actually sparked interests.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they were over. They weren't the ships at all.
Speaker 3: They kind of were. But you know, I do remember, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I remember that being a thing.
Speaker 6: I remember their finisher, the power bomb leg Drop Combo
Speaker 6: thought that was pretty cool. Chazz power bombs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that.
Speaker 6: I like that too, so Jeff, it's a great flying
Speaker 6: clothesline to get the match started. I remember them as
Speaker 6: individual jobbers on Raw the Hardy's, but as a tag
Speaker 6: team not so much before the It's pretty wild. The
Speaker 6: push with Michael Hayes split screen for Roop backstage watching
Speaker 6: on interesting. When they did the split screen must have
Speaker 6: been when matches were happening exclusively, because they they do
Speaker 6: the split screen much longer after this, says, I finish
Speaker 6: everything I start and with.
Speaker 3: I'm mad.
Speaker 6: He comes out here saying that he's gonna do this
Speaker 6: and this for his people. He's he's a big front.
Speaker 6: He says, if I met Johnson living in the high
Speaker 6: rise penthouse over Houston, driving two cars, three bedrooms, I'll
Speaker 6: tell you what the streets is like. Two roomhouse, seven
Speaker 6: kids having a rewash underwear each day.
Speaker 3: Sir, they got this one, O you, that's weird. I
Speaker 3: got this one too. This is just so fucking ridiculous,
Speaker 3: especially when there's a match going on. Eight you know,
Speaker 3: just don't do the match.
Speaker 7: He's timing. He knows what the streets is like. I'll
Speaker 7: tell you what the streets is like. The streets is
Speaker 7: like being raised up in a two room house with
Speaker 7: seven kids, having to rewash on there each day, just
Speaker 7: to have something to wear to school. They're having two
Speaker 7: miles to walk to test the buffs. All right, let
Speaker 7: me tell you something you've got an advantage over. But
Speaker 7: everyone on earth, see, you don't have to die and
Speaker 7: go to Hell.
Speaker 3: You're in it, naw. And I'm the temple and here.
Speaker 7: Oh my demon's right here. And when I get you
Speaker 7: in that room, it's Chicago. I'll tell you what we do.
Speaker 7: Let's just make this a Chicago street fight. Why so,
Speaker 7: everyone in the world, what the streets that's really like?
Speaker 7: Because you're looking at that table right by any means, nes.
Speaker 6: A sery there it is that would happen, of course
Speaker 6: against l O D and Ahmed at WrestleMania. The Chicago
Speaker 6: street fight where they actually used the kitchen sink?
Speaker 13: Do they do?
Speaker 3: That was the key thing right there, They used the
Speaker 3: kitchen sink by any means.
Speaker 6: Jared's's Chicago street fights are so well talk about violent.
Speaker 6: And then back in the ring, Marsh with a springboard
Speaker 6: clothesline over the ropes, takes out Matt on the apron.
Speaker 6: They say, the w FA Championships up next, like it's
Speaker 6: an announcement, like it's uh uh, like it wasn't expected
Speaker 6: to happen inter news, it's news, yep.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 6: I wonder if they were monitoring Nitro to decide one
Speaker 6: exactly to put well ahead had to put sid and
Speaker 6: Bread back out there. I mean they did the top
Speaker 6: of the hours are probably not but.
Speaker 3: I think yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think so.
Speaker 3: They definite did it at the top of the hour,
Speaker 3: and that was that was key.
Speaker 6: They wait a while before saying when you can see it.
Speaker 6: They don't say like right away, which makes sense. They
Speaker 6: don't say it right away, like at the top of
Speaker 6: the hour, We're going to do this, because then the
Speaker 6: next forty five minutes would be kind of lame duck.
Speaker 6: So they just like leave it unset as to when
Speaker 6: the match might happen. And then they springing on you
Speaker 6: right here, and Jay says, I guess they are disciples
Speaker 6: of that lady Marilyn Manson, that is to say, the Headbangers,
Speaker 6: So of course we're supposed to be a play on
Speaker 6: Marilyn Manson's.
Speaker 3: Popularity at the time. Sure, sure, I guess.
Speaker 6: Jeff Hardy gets a hot tag dropkick kills. He gets
Speaker 6: killed with a clothes line dropped directly on his head
Speaker 6: as he tries to backflip to sell. Jeff Hardy arrives
Speaker 6: in the building and decides, you know, if I'm going
Speaker 6: to be worth a shit, I need to almost die
Speaker 6: out there, and thus begins a long and fruitful career.
Speaker 8: No I I.
Speaker 3: I wish they edited it right there.
Speaker 6: Our bomb and leg drop combination, as aforementioned by the Headbangers,
Speaker 6: gets the one two three over the Hardy's here on
Speaker 6: the February seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven edition of Raw, JR.
Speaker 6: Says they're only going to find that kind of impact
Speaker 6: right here in the WWF. So a little shot there
Speaker 6: ww which had plenty of impact.
Speaker 3: By the way, well impact wasn't even around then.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jeff would thrive an impact as a matter of fact,
Speaker 6: true exactly, he listened, he was modest to the top.
Speaker 3: Mash spits and catches it in his mouth. So there's that.
Speaker 6: But what's more important sit his backstage, warming up, swinging
Speaker 6: at God knows what come on? He is, Yes, he is,
Speaker 6: he's ready, shadow boxing is only he can hit?
Speaker 3: What is wrong with him?
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Speaker 3: They say tremendous. I mean, it's it's, it's it's. It
Speaker 3: is funny seeing them speak about the Internet and they
Speaker 3: have no fucking idea what the Internet is really exactly.
Speaker 6: You know, if the Army's willing to pay us, it's
Speaker 6: fucking great. But wrestling is always you know, that is
Speaker 6: such a shoot, that wrestling is always a year or
Speaker 6: two ahead of where technology is going. Yeah, like they're
Speaker 6: the first to try technology because they're just trying anything
Speaker 6: they can to get, you know, something going.
Speaker 3: That feels innovative.
Speaker 6: Pay per view over the top streaming network. Of course
Speaker 6: this DVDs. They're way out in front of DVDs. Yeah,
Speaker 6: so Sid's music hits and.
Speaker 3: Here he comes, here he comes. H Is it going
Speaker 3: to happen? I don't know.
Speaker 6: Water's flying again. Fist bumps are happening, Jr. Says bread
Speaker 6: hard as a man's man, not intimidated by the six
Speaker 6: nine and thirteen pounds monster, Jerr reminds us for the
Speaker 6: second time tonight that it reminds us that this is
Speaker 6: the second time tonight that we've tried to get this
Speaker 6: spout underway. Sid with his baby face shirt, says, rule
Speaker 6: the World. I'm sure that would sell with thirty bucks today.
Speaker 6: Use actually three hundred, I should say.
Speaker 3: I'm sure, say myself are way more.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they come back to earlier the night and show
Speaker 6: you what happened to Sid and uh Brett's music.
Speaker 3: Kids.
Speaker 6: He steps out of the locker room, or at least
Speaker 6: they cut to the back. You expect to see him
Speaker 6: come to the curtain, but they cut to the back.
Speaker 3: They're doing the Goldberg Walk, yep, and for good reason,
Speaker 3: good reason. What's that here? We got for good reason
Speaker 3: or good reason?
Speaker 6: But great minds thinking like on that phrase backstage with
Speaker 6: the tile that there's tile everywhere is just like a
Speaker 6: totally underdone backstage area. Brett looking burdened and stressed as
Speaker 6: he makes the walk, and as he turns the corner
Speaker 6: back backstage near where they had Gorilla set up to
Speaker 6: go to the ring. Steve Austin real.
Speaker 2: Hardest ruddy for war, no doubt about it. And that's
Speaker 2: exactly what it's gonna be.
Speaker 4: Fight.
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh my god, Hard tacking the tap of talking,
Speaker 2: the taping right here, knocking.
Speaker 14: It's sit back, it's gonna said, they're trying to separate
Speaker 14: these guys.
Speaker 3: Put the hands in there too.
Speaker 21: Nord said, what's this tunnel man?
Speaker 3: Who?
Speaker 2: It is absolutely knotic. Here, my gosh, how back there?
Speaker 3: Wrong?
Speaker 2: You stay here? What alway?
Speaker 4: Starting all the way? We'll be like that.
Speaker 3: Wow chaos. Oh, I love it. I love it. It's
Speaker 3: so great. It's so exciting, like there just was so
Speaker 3: much happening you couldn't you know. It's it's the it's
Speaker 3: very ironic that that nobody was watching and that they
Speaker 3: were all watching w CW, because what is happening here
Speaker 3: is so goddamn exciting and off the chain that it's like,
Speaker 3: it's really they they're they're just it's it's the classic
Speaker 3: thing where what's cool becomes what you want to watch
Speaker 3: versus you know, what actually is.
Speaker 6: Good, and if there's something demonstrably more entertaining, like yeah,
Speaker 6: you would rather be you rather not miss what everybody's watching,
Speaker 6: then watch something more well made at the time, So
Speaker 6: and for what it's worth, And I don't remember that
Speaker 6: next week, but apparently Nitro bounces back in a big
Speaker 6: way and has a phenomenal show the next week. So
Speaker 6: maybe they're feeling a bit of the sting of what
Speaker 6: you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe they aren't, because like it's it's really.
Speaker 6: I mean ww it puts a show on like this,
Speaker 6: it's like, okay, like they're really going to try to
Speaker 6: win the ratings here, like we have to actually have
Speaker 6: a good show.
Speaker 3: We can't just coast. I mean, it is, it is
Speaker 3: kind of you know. The the one from it did
Speaker 3: kind of hit me was that there is some desperation
Speaker 3: here because they're really focusing on, you know, the same
Speaker 3: two people, the same three people the whole show versus
Speaker 3: w CW, which has such a massive roster that you know,
Speaker 3: there's no there's no challenge in them anyway, you know.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, a more focused show is better. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: they could take it every way. They could use less
Speaker 3: people on roster. A w's hurt good, Yes, so I
Speaker 3: get your point.
Speaker 6: So Austin, they're blindsiding him, And yes that is Vince
Speaker 6: you heard in there at some point, stop at stop it,
Speaker 6: god dammit. So Vince is getting physically involved in angles here,
Speaker 6: as well as a lot of the other agents and Gorilla.
Speaker 3: Man, it was so dressed down. Then it's just like
Speaker 3: a table face on the wall. It's yep.
Speaker 6: There's no big, you know, elaborate lit room with the
Speaker 6: monitors and everything like they have now and they show
Speaker 6: all the time on TV. So uh yeah, Sid gets
Speaker 6: back there and tries to break it up to preserve
Speaker 6: as title match, and they're all swinging there. Sid is
Speaker 6: actually swinging over Vince's back. Vince actually comes close to
Speaker 6: a few story bullets here. Yes, they go and they
Speaker 6: go and they go, and you know, you can you
Speaker 6: get this sense that well they're yeah, they're trying to
Speaker 6: break up the fight, but they're also trying to preserve
Speaker 6: the main event. Like all these WB officials, yes, are
Speaker 6: doing this because there's money on the line, not just
Speaker 6: because they don't want to see a fight happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's still there's a lot. You know, you don't
Speaker 3: want to, you don't want to, uh, you know, just
Speaker 3: let it. You gotta be careful, you gotta be very
Speaker 3: careful with this fucking thing, because this is the main event,
Speaker 3: this is the champion, this is the number one contender.
Speaker 3: You can't, you know, you can't just like take them
Speaker 3: down and knock them unconscious, you know.
Speaker 6: Right exactly, these are cash cows here, and Sid is
Speaker 6: reaching like a total psycho, clawing over the referees backs.
Speaker 6: So we're trying to break this thing up. He's got
Speaker 6: a real tapped look in his face. I'm sure he
Speaker 6: went I'm sure he went back. Is it regards nineteen
Speaker 6: ninety three and side.
Speaker 3: Ah, So it's it's wild.
Speaker 6: All this is happening. Austin and Bred are still entangled.
Speaker 6: So yeah, don't don't under sell Sid's role in the
Speaker 6: legendary Brett Austin early days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's crucial here.
Speaker 6: He's yeah, he's like somebody that gets over indirectly, how
Speaker 6: intensely these two hate each other because he's out there
Speaker 6: trying to chase money and glory and fame, and he's
Speaker 6: he's like the bystander while these two can't stay out
Speaker 6: of each other's way, and he's in there in the way.
Speaker 6: He's like intensely having to engage with their intensity kind
Speaker 6: of ratches it up. You know, he's not just standing
Speaker 6: there almost laughing at them or pat It's like, you know,
Speaker 6: he's in the mix and they're not stopping, they're not afraid,
Speaker 6: they're not backing down, and Sid brings a credibility to
Speaker 6: a street fight.
Speaker 3: You know he does. I mean just his size and
Speaker 3: the way he throws shit. You know, it is very true.
Speaker 3: He does make a fight, you know, seem more intense,
Speaker 3: even though you know what he does in a fight
Speaker 3: is complete garbage.
Speaker 6: And you realize going back at it, like we're doing, like, yeah,
Speaker 6: Austin was attacking Brett first and foremost, but Austin attacks Sid.
Speaker 6: You know, Brett attacks Sid. It's not it's not like
Speaker 6: Sid is a.
Speaker 3: It's not a cut and dry, black and white situation.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, there's there, you know, there are
Speaker 3: shades of gray, and then I see Pritchard in there.
Speaker 3: It's it's it's it's all kinds of of characters. They're
Speaker 3: breaking this thing up. They take a break, they come back,
Speaker 3: they replay the attack Steve Austin had perpetrated. And Kevin
Speaker 3: Kelly is now with Grilla Monsoon, who was still WW
Speaker 3: president at the time. Yes he was, he's not, he's
Speaker 3: he's actually full president, right, he's not in interim president.
Speaker 3: I don't remember when that happened where they finally declared him.
Speaker 3: I don't know either to be the full the full
Speaker 3: champiost Jack Toney, did you have this or should I
Speaker 3: read it off? I don't have this one.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: He just talks about however since the Brumble, Steve Austin's
Speaker 6: really had a vendetta and he's this close after tonight
Speaker 6: going over the edge. We're not like other people, he
Speaker 6: and of course referring to w c W, he says,
Speaker 6: we don't tease you with stuff and not deliver.
Speaker 3: So therefore, what are they referring to that time? Just
Speaker 3: how you know, Nitro would.
Speaker 6: Say in the main event, we'll have a big match
Speaker 6: and then it would go thirty seconds and someone wouldrun
Speaker 6: in and you wouldn't get the match. Oh okay, So
Speaker 6: they're like saying, you know, we're not like them. Even
Speaker 6: though there's a million reasons to cancel the Sid Brett match,
Speaker 6: We're still going to do it. So it's kind of
Speaker 6: to baby Face, not only Gorilla, but the company. And
Speaker 6: Gorilla says, we promised you a defense and that's exactly
Speaker 6: what we're going to have. I guarantee it, and so
Speaker 6: much urgency, so live the way they did it, Like, yeah,
Speaker 6: you have to immediately seek an opinion from Gorilla he
Speaker 6: doesn't come to the ring two segments later to his
Speaker 6: entrance music. You know, they chase him down backstage. That's
Speaker 6: how it right to be done. That's I agree. I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, not everyone needs to have an entrance like
Speaker 6: you can. You can just let things happen, let things be. Yes,
Speaker 6: that's you know, it's it's it's realer that way so.
Speaker 3: Much, you know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and when you see you now, they put a
Speaker 6: little graphic on during raw that shows the announced team
Speaker 6: and their pictures. It's like a commentator, commentator, reporter, and
Speaker 6: ring announcer. So they consider the person backstage holding the
Speaker 6: stick a reporter, not just somebody that interviews people, but
Speaker 6: someone that's like chasing down who to interview, and and
Speaker 6: so in that in that sense, these people should be
Speaker 6: getting comment from the top executives.
Speaker 3: You know, that should be their job, right they shouldn't. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 3: So Flash.
Speaker 6: Funk hits the ring. In case you were getting too
Speaker 6: excited there, JR. Calls out the explosive new generation here
Speaker 6: in the w w F. There's the Funk Cats. I
Speaker 6: dared define those two ladies today.
Speaker 3: I know, I was actually wondering who they were. Were
Speaker 3: they up to yep.
Speaker 6: I'd love to love to know what a song they
Speaker 6: came up with for this fucking flash funk gimmick. Oh
Speaker 6: my god, flash, he's so funk flash of bad funk,
Speaker 6: some bad. So we all sit around and while he
Speaker 6: dances under these lights, and of course it's always music.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 2: Ded Dean d.
Speaker 3: De Beanie meanie deep bean be deep be sounds good
Speaker 3: to me. Man.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I'm fine, I'm comfortable here. I loved
Speaker 6: his high energy theme. Oh yeah, you know, that was
Speaker 6: so great. I like that he had it.
Speaker 3: I really hated it when he changed it to the
Speaker 3: you know when it was the first the the the
Speaker 3: police siren, the international police siren. Right, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: no out working No, this one was great. It should
Speaker 3: not have ever changed em.
Speaker 6: And bulldogs still have the tax straps from Buried Alive
Speaker 6: when they want it from the smoking guns as we
Speaker 6: talked about.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 6: Yes, Clarence Mason, which is odd since Clarence was also
Speaker 6: in the Nation of Domination earlier.
Speaker 3: Yes, he's got quite a I mean that is interesting
Speaker 3: because like they don't actually, you know, he's got this
Speaker 3: whole extended stable but nothing really, but they don't like
Speaker 3: the Bulldog and Owen don't commune with the Nation at all.
Speaker 6: No, I mean Clarence Mason came in as the lawyer
Speaker 6: for Camp Cornett, which was Vader, Owen and Bulldog, and
Speaker 6: so that's kind of why I'm still there. But then
Speaker 6: the Nation comes along and they think Clarence will make
Speaker 6: a nice fit for that group, and they don't bother
Speaker 6: to kind of reconcile the two. He just comes out separately.
Speaker 6: I mean, Owen of course eventually would join the Nation,
Speaker 6: But I don't think they really had anything to do
Speaker 6: with Clarence Mason necessarily.
Speaker 3: No, I mean he was long gone by that point.
Speaker 6: Anyway, I don't think the idea came from a while.
Speaker 6: We have Clarence, of both of these guys, we got
Speaker 6: to figure this out. So Jair informs us that Marlena
Speaker 6: was coughing up blood backstage as a result of the
Speaker 6: attack from China, and she'll be going to a Nashville hospital.
Speaker 3: Later.
Speaker 6: Jerris says that the lady who attacked Marlena, and then
Speaker 6: Lawler cuts him off immediately and says, give me a break,
Speaker 6: that's not a lady. Jared says, I'm not going to
Speaker 6: go there, they talk a little bit more about it.
Speaker 6: They talk about rumbl a month ago and how Owen
Speaker 6: had purposely eliminated his tag team championship Parkner the British
Speaker 6: Bulldog from the Rumble match, and then tried to wave
Speaker 6: it on stone Cold. And last night they show Lafun
Speaker 6: in Furnace wrestling Owen and Bulldog and Owen accidentally quote
Speaker 6: unquote kicked Bulldogs. So they're starting to build tension in
Speaker 6: the ranks. They didn't consummate that breakup, but they are.
Speaker 6: They are kind of looking ahead to you know that
Speaker 6: the European Title tournament final will be between the two,
Speaker 6: right funk first Owen and they were and weren't they
Speaker 6: going in that direction until the brett Heel turn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think eventually Austin feuding with Bulldog would have had
Speaker 6: something to do with Owen uh costing Bulldog to match
Speaker 6: or turning on them or something, and then they would
Speaker 6: have gone Bulldog Owen, I think, and they ended up changing.
Speaker 3: Hu Man, I mean, Jesus, I would have been so
Speaker 3: great for Steve Austin.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I know that would have been different,
Speaker 6: I know, And instead we get Bulldog and Owen versus
Speaker 6: Vader and Mankind at WrestleMania.
Speaker 3: What a weird match that was?
Speaker 7: That was?
Speaker 3: That was so fucking weird too. I don't think i'd
Speaker 3: ever see I mean, I guess we saw it buried alive,
Speaker 3: but like two heel tag teams, and but I mean
Speaker 3: especially because the Mankind and Vader one was such a
Speaker 3: fucking like, what a weird pairing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they had nothing to do with each other and
Speaker 6: their hired WWA fronts and then all of a sudden they're.
Speaker 3: Well, they were both managed by Paul Barr at the time.
Speaker 3: I don't know how the fuck Vader became got involved
Speaker 3: with Paul BarreR instead of Cornette. I don't know where
Speaker 3: that fucking happened.
Speaker 6: But didn't didn't Paul Barr come out en route to
Speaker 6: Undertaker losing to Vader at Royal Rumble. Didn't he come
Speaker 6: out and hit Vader and hit Undertaker? And that's where
Speaker 6: I realized he was aligning with Vader. Maybe there was
Speaker 6: something like that because Vader had you know, he'd never
Speaker 6: really formally left Camp Cornet, but Camp Cornett kind of
Speaker 6: fell at heart. Cornett became just a TV announcer then I.
Speaker 3: Mean, and then he really wasn't even on TV for
Speaker 3: a while.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, let's slash Funk for someone heart. Lots of kip
Speaker 6: ups early, as you can imagine with these two in
Speaker 6: the ring. They got a slammy on the ring steps
Speaker 6: who already won his Slammy Award. They get an over
Speaker 6: the shoulder shot of the trophy Funk proving too quick
Speaker 6: for Owen in the early going. And no one still
Speaker 6: goes woo during a stalemate like he somehow triumphed even
Speaker 6: though flash Funk totally got the better of it.
Speaker 3: There is nothing fucking better than that. That is that
Speaker 3: is key. That is fucking prime Owen Hart right, that's
Speaker 3: actually correct.
Speaker 6: No one, no one picked a better moment to celebrate
Speaker 6: undeservedly than he.
Speaker 3: Oh, he was so fucking brilliant at that.
Speaker 6: It just looks so I'm gonna say it, you know,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say it. Owen's face at this stage. I
Speaker 6: want you to picture it, breathing heavy, with his hair
Speaker 6: all stringy. Yep, yeah, looking so uh distastefully in other
Speaker 6: people the scowl. Ah, it was so funny. His face
Speaker 6: is hilarious.
Speaker 3: I really, you know, I just I didn't appreciate O
Speaker 3: one heart nearly as much as I should have. I
Speaker 3: know me too, I mean because you know why. I mean,
Speaker 3: I was so annoyed with him. I was so pissed
Speaker 3: off at him all the time because he was so annoying.
Speaker 3: But he's so brilliant.
Speaker 6: Turns out he's really good at that and keeping your
Speaker 6: guest off exactly exactly he was doing his job.
Speaker 3: Jr. Says.
Speaker 6: A rep of VCW is on the phone, So I
Speaker 6: guess you can just call Monday night raw and what
Speaker 6: are what the number is?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, here I got I got the representative
Speaker 3: phone called one.
Speaker 14: Well, ladies and gentlemen, we've just been informed Ken, you've
Speaker 14: got a phone call. I'm talking about Oh Appairly, there's
Speaker 14: a representative of the of E c W on the
Speaker 14: phone that would like to.
Speaker 3: Speak to you.
Speaker 2: You gotta be kidding me, not kidding, tell me the truth,
Speaker 2: that's what for what I'll talk to him.
Speaker 3: Hello.
Speaker 4: Unlike Vince McMahon, I don't need to hide behind representatives.
Speaker 4: This is the owner operator, an executive producer. I'm Extreme Championship,
Speaker 4: Pressley King, Pauline, Paul Haymon, dangerously call me what you like,
Speaker 4: but seeming. Next Monday, Manhattan sent up with all the
Speaker 4: athletes Extreme Chimpionship Wrestling who has educated as you may be,
Speaker 4: you'll claim never to have heard of.
Speaker 2: A paul E. Are you telling me that you're gonna
Speaker 2: accept my little challenge?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 15: You're gonna bring some of your big name stars down
Speaker 15: and visit us superstars next week at.
Speaker 2: The Manhattan Centers. That what you're telling you?
Speaker 15: He Wait a minute, Wait a minute, quitted, Paulie. You're
Speaker 15: gonna bring some of the big boys, like the Blue
Speaker 15: Meat or maybe the sand Man.
Speaker 2: You ever heard of that?
Speaker 15: Huh?
Speaker 2: Sandman or Samboo signed.
Speaker 4: You sideways, maybe Chess. Maybe you'll have a whole different
Speaker 4: respect for Extreme Championship Pressley.
Speaker 15: They have absolutely zero respect for you e c W
Speaker 15: and all of the misfits and has bins.
Speaker 2: And no talent bombs that are in ECW. Do you
Speaker 2: understand that if you would let.
Speaker 4: The police and the security let us sit next week
Speaker 4: and as long as the Neighborhood Watch doesn't have to
Speaker 4: be informed that you're in the neighborhood, I'll see you
Speaker 4: face che face with the e c W stars alongside
Speaker 4: of me next week, Live Manhattan. Come on down, Come
Speaker 4: on down.
Speaker 15: You probably won't recognize the place because of Manhattan Centers
Speaker 15: and arena.
Speaker 2: Not a bingo hall were you used to performing? You'll
Speaker 2: stand out hour, Let's not lookout. Ask him if you
Speaker 2: ring out down anymore. I'm thinking I want to talking
Speaker 2: about I'm trying to watch this man.
Speaker 6: Jesus, Oh the Neighborhood Watch. Did you get that reference?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: No, basically like he's a sex offender and can't be
Speaker 6: Oh okay, And that, apparently, according to the Observer, was
Speaker 6: a low blow that Lawler was not expecting.
Speaker 3: Oh that'ls of reports.
Speaker 6: There was real heat on the February seventeenth Raw between
Speaker 6: Paul Hayman and Jerry Lawler when Hayman brought up the
Speaker 6: Neighborhood Watch program, alluding to Lawler's legal problems a few
Speaker 6: years back, and Lawler shot back about cracking his jaw,
Speaker 6: which he did with a punch in Haiti, Missouri, in
Speaker 6: nineteen eighty seven, when Hayman was a rookie. Although both
Speaker 6: sounded like they hated each other on the Feby twenty
Speaker 6: fourth Raw, and both probably meant the majority of what
Speaker 6: they said, everything on that show was worked out beforehand.
Speaker 6: Is WWF talked with Hayman on February twentieth about why
Speaker 6: what he couldn't say about Waller on the air, and
Speaker 6: that the two were to.
Speaker 3: Act professional with each other.
Speaker 6: Wow, it's aiming for you give him a live situation
Speaker 6: and he's gonna do something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or sure that makes sense.
Speaker 6: So Flash Funk gets a plancha to the floor with
Speaker 6: a bit of hangtime Happy birthday. Michael Jordan Jr. Says,
Speaker 6: So there's that.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: Bulldog comes out and gets in Clarence Mason's face, and
Speaker 6: Bulldog is saying Clarence is going to costo in the match.
Speaker 6: They take a break, they come back and Owen bridges
Speaker 6: up from the bottom and Funk hooks at backslide for two.
Speaker 6: Owen with the Germans souplex that absolutely fold scorpio and
Speaker 6: half for two. Owen could Germans, Yes he could. Yes,
Speaker 6: he learned a lot working for Otto Vaughan, so I'll
Speaker 6: tell you that, yes he did. It's fun how they're
Speaker 6: going nuts about bootleg EACW talent while Flash Funk is
Speaker 6: in there, who just came fresh off ECW, to say
Speaker 6: nothing of Steve Austin, Brian Pillman and a lot of
Speaker 6: other guys they had under contract at the time. Ron
Speaker 6: Simmons had come through. There they do a split screen again.
Speaker 6: Austin is backstage. Man, they just do not let you
Speaker 6: watch more than two minutes of this match.
Speaker 3: It's well, I mean, that's the thing like there, there's
Speaker 3: so much I mean, think about what you know in
Speaker 3: every in all these matches in the past see here,
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the past three matches. The only one that's
Speaker 3: been clean was the curiously the first fucking match with
Speaker 3: Marilyn Vega in terms of interruptions with other people commenting
Speaker 3: on ship.
Speaker 6: That's because they had Sable out there, which they thought
Speaker 6: checked the box of you know, Sideshow to focus on.
Speaker 3: I guess, yeah, but you know, here's here's uh, here's Steve. Austin, Steve,
Speaker 3: are you have you lost it?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 7: What do you want?
Speaker 2: Time? You were you gonna ask me a question?
Speaker 10: Or why?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 2: What is what's wrong with you?
Speaker 18: If you what's wrong with me? Guerrilla Montsus is on
Speaker 18: this far from going over the edge. I done went
Speaker 18: over the edge. I'm about this far from women his ass.
Speaker 18: He makes up the final four match of which I'm
Speaker 18: a participant and I was not never supposed to have.
Speaker 2: I won to roll rumble Ferris.
Speaker 18: Square throwing twenty nine piece of trash over the top row.
Speaker 18: There ain't no such thing as a mister replay rule
Speaker 18: in the WWF.
Speaker 2: Sean, Michael's getting a little hurt knee, so he quits.
Speaker 2: By all right, that should make me the WWF champion.
Speaker 4: And that's the bottom line.
Speaker 2: You hold me back.
Speaker 18: This whole organization holds me back because I ain't full
Speaker 18: of glitzen blammer and big smiles for all the publicity shots.
Speaker 2: The bottom line is open.
Speaker 18: I'm opening up a whole keg of whoop ass and
Speaker 18: I'm serving it to everybody in the WWF.
Speaker 2: And that's the bottom line. Costole Cole sets all right, well,
Speaker 2: thank you.
Speaker 1: I guess the web wrestling podcast, the wrestling podcast that
Speaker 1: knows the boys need their candy. It's the Lapsed Fan.
Speaker 1: He's the Lapsed Fan Wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno
Speaker 1: and JP Sorrow.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a breakthrough problem right there. That is
Speaker 3: absolutely I mean, first of all, I mean I never
Speaker 3: even thought of the logic of the fact that he's
Speaker 3: the number one contender and Michael's you know, forfeits the belt.
Speaker 3: You know, I would imagine that Austin does have a
Speaker 3: legitimate class. I want the royal rubbo what the fuck?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And then I love that he also plays the uh
Speaker 3: he plays the Sid card. If we're fucking paying tribute
Speaker 3: to Sid him talking about you know that he's being
Speaker 3: held down because he's not out there being all mister publicity.
Speaker 3: And it's the same thing, is it because I'm not
Speaker 3: a big movie star like Hulcos?
Speaker 10: Wow?
Speaker 3: Same thing?
Speaker 6: Huge point there, huge point. This is a fucking important raw.
Speaker 3: It really is. I mean it's a game changer. I
Speaker 3: mean I think it also, you know, it just it
Speaker 3: really establishes what they were going to do moving forward.
Speaker 6: Right, how they were going to try to hold your
Speaker 6: attention every single segment.
Speaker 3: Because they really had to. I mean they were, they
Speaker 3: were completely they were outgunned by w CW in terms
Speaker 3: of the unpredictability factor for so long.
Speaker 6: And he says so much of that promo that's like
Speaker 6: foundational to his character. It's not just about the circumstance
Speaker 6: he finds himself in at that point in time and
Speaker 6: the opponent. Right, he says things about opening cans of
Speaker 6: what bass he talks about attacking Gorilla Monsoon. He's saying
Speaker 6: a lot of things that like what would be characteristic
Speaker 6: everything he would do going forward, not just to these wrestlers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: His neck veins are bulging and he's oh, he's so,
Speaker 6: he's so pissed off all the time, all the time,
Speaker 6: Like you're gonna ask me a question, you idiot?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, instant fucking piece of shit, redneck awesome.
Speaker 6: They you know how it started? How think about this,
Speaker 6: how it started when he got heel heel against Triple
Speaker 6: Ah to the Buried Alive show. Remember we talked about that, yep,
Speaker 6: And how the people are like, holy shit, like if
Speaker 6: he's wrestling a heel, we're now allowed to chant for
Speaker 6: this guy who's just who just doesn't give a fuck
Speaker 6: and is just starting to show that he didn't give
Speaker 6: a fuck because they were building the Brett Survivisories match.
Speaker 3: Yep. Oh my god. Now we're here just several months later,
Speaker 3: and it's.
Speaker 2: Like, this is the guy.
Speaker 6: This is the fucking guy. He goes from wrestling Triple
Speaker 6: Ah in a replacement match on the opening match Buried
Speaker 6: Alive in October to when they're getting together to shoot
Speaker 6: the uh, the the the opening for the new Raw
Speaker 6: is War title sequence. He's the one walking through the
Speaker 6: sparking doors.
Speaker 3: Right in the exact warehouse.
Speaker 6: Absolutely perfect timing for him to just go off like
Speaker 6: this because the company was ready to build around what
Speaker 6: he was doing, instead of putting it in a corner,
Speaker 6: you know, or making it just like one little piece
Speaker 6: of the presentation. It's like, no, what Steve Austin is
Speaker 6: doing is not just gonna be his thing. It's gonna
Speaker 6: be the whole fucking identity of the whole company now.
Speaker 3: Right exactly, it's gonna again, it's going to change the
Speaker 3: whole fucking face of the business.
Speaker 6: And a lot of it is right there the raw material.
Speaker 6: So Owen back of the ring, misses a corner charge
Speaker 6: and gets crotched on the top rope like he was
Speaker 6: going almost for a bronco buster and a standing opponent,
Speaker 6: which is a strange idea because if he hit it,
Speaker 6: I don't know what he would have accomplished. Anyway, Now
Speaker 6: what's he done? Then he kind of hurts himself more
Speaker 6: than he hurts his opponent with the body slam, goes
Speaker 6: up top and swords with a cross body for two
Speaker 6: and then another slam climbs again and he moon salts,
Speaker 6: this time to slash Funk.
Speaker 3: That gets to.
Speaker 6: You know, flash makes they can't believe it eyes that
Speaker 6: Owen kicked out of that one. The whip is reversed.
Speaker 6: Tavy Boy Smith with a with a Slammy Award trophy
Speaker 6: hits the back of the head of a flash Funk
Speaker 6: from the ring apron behind the referees back, and then
Speaker 6: Owen hits a spinning heel kick and then Davy Boy
Speaker 6: holds down flash Funk's leg from outside the ring.
Speaker 3: One. Jesus, is flash Funk that much of a threat? Now?
Speaker 3: I mean Jesus Christ, weapons and three guys to beat
Speaker 3: this guy.
Speaker 6: One, two, three, It's over Owen hart Plint's flash Funk
Speaker 6: here and raw Every seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven. Jerry Lawler
Speaker 6: plays it up like they're on the same page. Owen
Speaker 6: and Davy Boy and Davy Boys all smiles and hoists
Speaker 6: the tax Tam Championship, but Owen is clearly visibly pissed
Speaker 6: that a bulldog interfered in his behalf. Russell MANI promo
Speaker 6: every great athlete aspires to perform on the ultimate stage.
Speaker 3: They're still in that stage, the big I mean of stage.
Speaker 3: It sounds like you're gonna die.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, the big soaring emotion. Emotions pour from
Speaker 6: unrestrained places where memories are indelibly etched in the annals
Speaker 6: of time, Jesus Christ. And when you si calm down
Speaker 6: at this calm down, they don't just call you great,
Speaker 6: They call you a legend. And then they go back
Speaker 6: to triple h. She's coming to the ring, to his
Speaker 6: classical music, and they.
Speaker 3: Reach it's a fucking Beethoven. Finally, Yah, the Beethoven music.
Speaker 6: They replay China grabbing Marlena, and it's kind of money
Speaker 6: to watch the fans who are right next to it
Speaker 6: making faces like whoa Like they want to smile about this, sunny.
Speaker 3: Games, but it's not.
Speaker 6: They take a break together that a little bit, isn't it, folks.
Speaker 6: They show the ninteen ninety seven Slamy Awards presented by
Speaker 6: Full Metal. The album This is the Entrance Music album
Speaker 6: They did that I got in the mail as a
Speaker 6: as a as a send away present for sending a
Speaker 6: copy of my cable bill to them.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, did you really Yeah, that's tremendous.
Speaker 6: They talk about how on March twenty. First, the Slammy
Speaker 6: Awards are actually going to be live on the USA Network,
Speaker 6: And that was an interesting slammyes. That's the one where
Speaker 6: Triple H calls Sonny the slut basically and uh, really,
Speaker 6: I don't know that, Yeah, he says. He says a
Speaker 6: few things like ribbing her, but like a little too harshly.
Speaker 6: And I think that's the one where under Taker like
Speaker 6: calls out his ex wife as like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: really speaking, it calls out the wrong It mentions her
Speaker 6: like she's there and he's like he's talking as the
Speaker 6: Undertaker and these like cryptic biblical terms, but it's like,
Speaker 6: you are the one that I would go to the
Speaker 6: Fiery depths for or something.
Speaker 3: It's so weird.
Speaker 6: And then they have that's one where Steve Austin's up
Speaker 6: there and says all he talks is shit big time
Speaker 6: on that Slammy Awards. Maybe we'd do that show one day.
Speaker 3: It's a good one. Should Yeah, maybe a.
Speaker 6: Christmas present for everybody. So Hockey Talk Man's with Jerry
Speaker 6: Lawler guarantees he'll take home a Slammy.
Speaker 3: Jr.
Speaker 6: Was with Triple H at the announced position and says
Speaker 6: Are you associated with this woman? This, of course didn't
Speaker 6: have a name for it. Yet they're talking, Oh here
Speaker 6: I got I have yeah, I have this here for you.
Speaker 6: It's kind of funny.
Speaker 2: Are you involved with this woman? It's attacked Marlene or twice?
Speaker 3: Did you?
Speaker 2: Are you associated with her?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 7: Or no?
Speaker 2: Jim Ross, I don't know who she is. You know,
Speaker 2: women all over.
Speaker 19: The world go crazy for me of all shit, sizes
Speaker 19: and colors.
Speaker 2: It's not my fault. I don't know who this woman is. Women, Frankly,
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 3: I don't know who this woman is.
Speaker 2: You got to strike when the horses mount. I'm just wonder.
Speaker 2: I hope he's telling the truth.
Speaker 3: But be that as it may. I don't know who
Speaker 3: this woman is. Okay, trips and I don't care.
Speaker 6: Yep, Yeah, he says they go crazy for me in
Speaker 6: all shape, sizes and colors. And then the honey talk
Speaker 6: man says China might fit into the honey talk man's category.
Speaker 6: And I'm thinking, what a long ragining intercontinental champion? Well
Speaker 6: she did women the title, but she sure did.
Speaker 3: She didn't really have a long rain.
Speaker 6: So ton Ofhurse Helmsverus Bart gun here if you want
Speaker 6: to make sure people keep their TVs on USA Network.
Speaker 3: It's pretty god like, you know. I mean, look, I'd
Speaker 3: rather go see Randy Anderson and Nick Patrick go at
Speaker 3: it all right, then this shit.
Speaker 6: Honkey talk men still on that disastrous campaign to find
Speaker 6: a protege which resulted in Rockabilly, of course, which went
Speaker 6: nowhere fast. He's talking on the mic about uncommentary about
Speaker 6: having narrowed down his candidate's a list.
Speaker 3: Of two or three.
Speaker 6: Nobody cares he got a couple he was eying not
Speaker 6: around anymore his recruits, and the lawer says, so the
Speaker 6: top one on the list was Triple H and pleads
Speaker 6: his case, and Bart in the ring quickens the pace
Speaker 6: and hip tosses and dropkicks Triple Ah. Jurly Jr. Says
Speaker 6: we're keeping updated on the superstar line about a unique
Speaker 6: negotiation that has been discussed from some top superstars here
Speaker 6: in the WWF. I don't know what he's referring to,
Speaker 6: but I'm sure there was no fraud involved, Jr.
Speaker 3: Says.
Speaker 6: Jim Andrews the surgeon who's who's looking at Steve Austin
Speaker 6: and other people's knees. That's well so, of course, Michael Michael,
Speaker 6: remember Bo Jackson, He says. Hockey tonk Man says, whatever
Speaker 6: happened to him, he got operated on by this doc.
Speaker 6: So uh, Instead of the line being James andrews helped
Speaker 6: Bo Jackson, it sets up a line of hockey tonk
Speaker 6: saying he's gonna end his careers looking into Bo Jackson's let's.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about let's you know, let's let's let's take Jim.
Speaker 6: Hockey talk Man also says, by the way, set Michael
Speaker 6: was one of the wrestlers on his list to become
Speaker 6: his procours, was pretty fine that he actually presumes that
Speaker 6: he could get him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that he could freaking like like as if. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's like who gives a ship to be on the hunt?
Speaker 3: I mean I was happy to see the honky tonk
Speaker 3: Man there. Don't get me wrong, I've said it before.
Speaker 3: I was happy to see the honky Tonk Man there
Speaker 3: because to me, okay, anybody from the past is good.
Speaker 3: But really, like, who the fuck wanted to work with him?
Speaker 3: It's so true, who want to be associated with him?
Speaker 6: He just he was one of the first to take
Speaker 6: a big body slam from China. So there's that that
Speaker 6: was like the only impactful thing he did on this run.
Speaker 6: Actually was kind of launched that whole idea that when
Speaker 6: she attacked someone it would be it would be great
Speaker 6: and be over and no one would shit on it.
Speaker 6: I remember if people thinking Disco Inferno was going to
Speaker 6: come to WWF to be the.
Speaker 3: To be the protege. I don't know why why I
Speaker 3: remember that, but yeah, I feel like, because you know what,
Speaker 3: I think we talked about it.
Speaker 6: They were playing it up like it was going to
Speaker 6: be a real thing, Like the person he picked was
Speaker 6: going to be a new star, not an existing guy
Speaker 6: with a new name. And I'm pretty sure, yeah, I'm
Speaker 6: pretty sure it's settled that they picked. They picked repackaging
Speaker 6: Billy Gunn. It's like a option B. That's somehow that
Speaker 6: wasn't the design the whole time.
Speaker 3: Anyway.
Speaker 6: That was one of the intrigues going on at the time.
Speaker 6: Bart with an arm dragon screeches like a cowboy, banshee
Speaker 6: bitch when he hits it. Triple H ducks and hits
Speaker 6: a high knee. Talk about Triple H as a ladies
Speaker 6: man and getting letters from Wilt Chamberlain. Honky Talkman says
Speaker 6: he can't help even in that category.
Speaker 3: A ladies man. I know he's getting letters from Wilt Chamberlain.
Speaker 3: It's not really making a ladies.
Speaker 6: Man getting letters in as Wilt Chamberlain did. I think
Speaker 6: they're trying to say, I see Goldas hits the ring
Speaker 6: and gives chase at ringside because he's now looking for
Speaker 6: revenge for what happened to mar Lne. He goes over
Speaker 6: the rail after Triple H and almost wipes out.
Speaker 3: By the way, it was option six for that negotiation.
Speaker 6: For those of you wondering, maybe I'll save you ninety
Speaker 6: nine cents. So he chases Hunterhurst into the aisles, up
Speaker 6: into the people, and Lawler says, these people are interfering again,
Speaker 6: arrest them all. As Triple Ah tries to make way,
Speaker 6: the bell sounds and Howard Finkle announces that bart Gun
Speaker 6: is the winner over Hunters Helmsley by count out great
Speaker 6: stuff title matches next Ladies and Gentlemen, And they got
Speaker 6: the graphic and the music going.
Speaker 3: Into the break to prove it.
Speaker 6: Sid and Brett Hart, I remember this music and and
Speaker 6: and and look of the show, and yes, I just
Speaker 6: remember not matching how big of a deal they were
Speaker 6: making these matches out to be like, we didn't see
Speaker 6: matches like Brett Sid for the title with this raw
Speaker 6: set and this music. It's just it didn't it did
Speaker 6: still didn't seem possible. It still seemed like a bait
Speaker 6: and switch we did.
Speaker 3: I know, I agree with that. I mean, it certainly
Speaker 3: didn't seem like it was going to be an actual
Speaker 3: title to.
Speaker 6: Me an angle at the end ultimately just be an angle, right,
Speaker 6: you know? Right they did that Sid Shawn match one
Speaker 6: time on Raw, like.
Speaker 3: You'd have like you'd have Atome come out again, given
Speaker 3: that you've seen him, yes, there the whole time, and
Speaker 3: that he would uh because of his qualifications and it'd be.
Speaker 6: Over absolutely yes, and that was that was acceptable. You
Speaker 6: know you're interested in that, but it's what you expect.
Speaker 6: You didn't expect like a clean finish or a finished,
Speaker 6: decisive finish, I should say, right, tight shot of some
Speaker 6: woman who actually bought a shotgun Saturday Night T shirt.
Speaker 3: He exists. Want I want one to? Of course?
Speaker 10: I do.
Speaker 6: To James Andrews, doctor James Andrews, the surgeon working on
Speaker 6: Shawn's knee.
Speaker 3: Of the interview. Here here you go. You want to
Speaker 3: listen to James Andrews talk about Sean Michaels in his
Speaker 3: wrastling career.
Speaker 10: I examined Sean today, and Sean's injury to his.
Speaker 3: Knee not what I thought doctor James Andrews would sound
Speaker 3: in Alabama. I've never actually heard him. I've never heard
Speaker 3: him before, and I never thought he'd I ain't. No,
Speaker 3: that's wait, you know. And now I examined Sean Michael
Speaker 3: Kay and he said that I cannot examine him anymore.
Speaker 10: Dates back to about five years ago when he tore
Speaker 10: the anti cruide ligament in his knee joint. Excuse me,
Speaker 10: it's the athletic ligament that stabilizes your knee. So the
Speaker 10: injury he had recently relates back to that chronic problem
Speaker 10: that's been lingering with him for many years. Uh.
Speaker 3: He has a degenerated area on the.
Speaker 10: Sore and and the twist that he had a week
Speaker 10: or so ago, UH.
Speaker 3: Sort of set that off.
Speaker 10: We recommended to him that he not have surgery at
Speaker 10: this point.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 10: We're going to rehab him at his home in San Antonio, Texas,
Speaker 10: and we're going to reassess him in about six weeks,
Speaker 10: four to six weeks to see how he's progressing surgery
Speaker 10: is not absolutely ruled out. We feel and we believe
Speaker 10: that that he'll respond and then he'll be able to
Speaker 10: resume his rastling career.
Speaker 3: Wow, I think his rastling career. And I'm also going
Speaker 3: to tell you what I want to do around here
Speaker 3: with Seohn Michaels to get him rehab properly. What I
Speaker 3: plan to do is throw him into the pen with
Speaker 3: the pigs and I'm gonna then I'm gonna get down
Speaker 3: on top of and I'm gonna roll myself in the
Speaker 3: mutton and see how Sean Michaels reacts to that.
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Speaker 6: Sean, Like fucking four days after losing a smile and
Speaker 6: never coming back. They got the dog on TV saying
Speaker 6: he'll be back, He'll be back.
Speaker 3: You resume his wrastling career.
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Speaker 3: Sid.
Speaker 6: Sid Now down to Championship business. There's that T shirt.
Speaker 6: That T shirt again, that SID T shirt. He's wet again.
Speaker 6: Imagine how many times he doused himself with water on
Speaker 6: this tape.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, well, I don't understand how much times
Speaker 3: I have to water?
Speaker 8: Am I?
Speaker 3: Oh said this, I'm gonna go out there again. Here's
Speaker 3: here's your spray gun. Said, you know, week we got
Speaker 3: to you know we're gonna be out there three times.
Speaker 3: What do you mean three times? Well said, I told
Speaker 3: you you're gonna have to you know, we're gonna kind
Speaker 3: of do a Payton switch? Do I have to take
Speaker 3: three showers? Vince? Are you telling me I have to
Speaker 3: wrestle three times?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 3: Sid, I said, you're just gonna go out there three times.
Speaker 3: You're gonna wrestle one time, but you're gonna go out
Speaker 3: you know, as if the matches happen.
Speaker 6: I understand it's not real simple.
Speaker 3: Will you're telling me right now?
Speaker 2: Is not simple?
Speaker 3: Polls said said it actually shyes. Does you look at me,
Speaker 3: little man. I'm gonna tell you one thing, and I'm
Speaker 3: gonna ask you a question, and you're gonna look me
Speaker 3: straight in the eye and tell me the truth. If
Speaker 3: I'm going out there three times, does that mean I
Speaker 3: have to take three showers?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Well, uh, I said, that's you know what, that's your
Speaker 3: progative bell.
Speaker 6: What do you mean my progres those college words with me.
Speaker 3: Don't you sit there and use your fucking Connecticut words
Speaker 3: with me. You think you're so hot and mighty because
Speaker 3: you live in New England. You live in the northeast,
Speaker 3: outside of New York. You don't know shit. I don't
Speaker 3: know shit. Yeah, there it is.
Speaker 6: So he asks the kid who's the man, and the
Speaker 6: kid pointed like fuck yeah right back at him.
Speaker 3: Pretty awesome.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you gotta love that dripping down the back of
Speaker 6: his black leather vest.
Speaker 3: It's so it's like, where does this you know, who
Speaker 3: produces so much water? It's so hydrated when he goes,
Speaker 3: I mean, like, where does this water come from? It
Speaker 3: seems like a waist.
Speaker 6: They replay the first tussle with bretton Austin and they
Speaker 6: went pretty nuts when Sid went after Steve. When you
Speaker 6: see the replay, you know when he jumps into it.
Speaker 6: They think it's awesome that Sid attacks Steve Austin, which
Speaker 6: is pretty cool it is. They show backstage the backstage
Speaker 6: attack again as well, and Brett comes out, this time
Speaker 6: with the championship with no jacket, just the title over
Speaker 6: his shoulder. Yep, he's sick of getting ready.
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, what was there here? I've been
Speaker 3: out there a million times, like come.
Speaker 6: On, yeah, to tell he's going to lose the strap.
Speaker 6: There's no pomping circumstance whatsoever to his walkout or any
Speaker 6: of that, and he hoists the strap there for the
Speaker 6: only time in this title reign. We take a quick
Speaker 6: break and we come back so we can show you
Speaker 6: the entirety of this WAF Championship match. They tell us
Speaker 6: that's Brett Pyro. Brett's Pyro pops off above them ring.
Speaker 6: We come back to Sid versus Brett Hard for the
Speaker 6: WWF Championship in the main event of the February seventeenth,
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety seven edition of Monday Night Raw. The bell
Speaker 6: sounds upon return from break, and Jr. Thanks us for
Speaker 6: inviting them into your home, lock up and breath.
Speaker 3: Well, well you did that the night before. This is
Speaker 3: not in your house.
Speaker 6: It's just aw, it's a little late, Jim. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 6: you know we invited you in our home like an
Speaker 6: hour and fifty minutes ago.
Speaker 3: I know, Like what you should say?
Speaker 6: That first off only counts now, Yeah, that's far out.
Speaker 6: Lock up and Brett goes for rights in the corner.
Speaker 3: You know how that goes.
Speaker 6: He goes off with those rights ah and then starts
Speaker 6: stomping the gut of Sid. Sid grabs him and turns
Speaker 6: him around and goes off with some body shots of
Speaker 6: his own. Sid with those big bolo shots.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you you know this is it like like
Speaker 3: Sid Sid fucking like the way he it's just absolutely phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Like watching him thunder.
Speaker 6: Away, the way he used his wingspan to make his
Speaker 6: punches look like crazy was pretty cool.
Speaker 3: But he doesn't different in this particular match, Like it's
Speaker 3: very different, Like he really upped his game in this match.
Speaker 6: He had spots with Brett that he didn't have to
Speaker 6: anybody else where. He would really show like different looks.
Speaker 6: That's true.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 6: So there's rapid fire hooks to the gut by Sid
Speaker 6: corner to corner whip and then Brett hits hard and
Speaker 6: collapses said with the forearm with the small the back
Speaker 6: of the Kidney's working on the back of bread, of course,
Speaker 6: to soften him up for the power bomb. Double axe
Speaker 6: sledge down on the back of the hitman, Sid raining
Speaker 6: down the punishment on a felled hitman. Brett then fires
Speaker 6: out of the corner with right hands and he hooks
Speaker 6: a side Russian leg sweep. Kind of a weird struggle
Speaker 6: at first, like he was thinking to do something else
Speaker 6: and Sid wasn't in the correct position, but he does
Speaker 6: hit it. Sid then awkwardly stands up and stays overhead,
Speaker 6: clubbing the back and goes to the throat of the
Speaker 6: hip man.
Speaker 3: And King King wants Sid to win. Do you know
Speaker 3: why I want so? That's doing Hell will be miserable.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see a big smile on the
Speaker 2: face of stewing Helen Hart.
Speaker 15: But they had last night ten sometime every time they're
Speaker 15: the matches, Prett Hart seemed.
Speaker 2: The burks Victoria's. I saw him it. Later on they
Speaker 2: were ordered chair Paula on the rocks at the bar.
Speaker 6: They were so happy, Oh, my god, Lawler. You can
Speaker 6: hear Sid fucking literally breathing during that clip.
Speaker 3: By the way, he's so labored.
Speaker 6: So he goes back to the overhead and clubbing, and
Speaker 6: then he goes to the throat and Brett rolls into
Speaker 6: the corner and kicks a pursuing Sid to keep him
Speaker 6: at Bay fires out of the corner with some punches,
Speaker 6: and then Sid grabs the wrist and hits Brett with
Speaker 6: a short arm clothesline that drops bred heart cold as
Speaker 6: he tries to rally. Brett's so good at like those
Speaker 6: hope spots where he kind of gets opening and then
Speaker 6: gets cut off. No one bettersolutely accurate, whifted on the
Speaker 6: first outreach, but then he finally snatches him does Sid,
Speaker 6: and somehow worked, somehow worked. When Sid missed a spot,
Speaker 6: it was like, yeah, it wasn't like a big fuck
Speaker 6: up because it was like, yeah, he's nuts, Like of
Speaker 6: course he's gonna and.
Speaker 3: He's huge and he's lumbering right, so it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: you kind of expect that he's not going to be perfect,
Speaker 3: he's not going to be completely clean exactly. It's rare.
Speaker 3: It's not often that you have a guy who who
Speaker 3: you know, you can kind of it works. That kind
Speaker 3: of shit works, right.
Speaker 6: Like if you give if you give Sid a spatula
Speaker 6: and try to have him kill a fly, it's going
Speaker 6: to kind of look like this, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right exactly. I mean if you if you imagine,
Speaker 3: I mean, forget having an actual thing, what about thinking
Speaker 3: about Sid like trying to kill us a fly with
Speaker 3: his hands?
Speaker 8: Right?
Speaker 3: Even better? You know, like he's just going around like
Speaker 3: swatting the walls with his bare hands, and.
Speaker 6: It's gonna look like he doesn't know what he's doing,
Speaker 6: but he's going to catch that fly by virtue of
Speaker 6: his size.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, his hand is so much bigger than yours that
Speaker 6: he doesn't have to be strategic about it.
Speaker 3: Exactly. You can afford it like an idiot well while
Speaker 3: doing it. So yeah.
Speaker 6: Clubbing shots on a floor of Brett Hart, they recall
Speaker 6: Sid beating Sean Michaels at Survivor series, and Jerr says
Speaker 6: the speculation is Sid caused Sean michaels knee injury to
Speaker 6: some extent. That's interesting way to throw it together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm with that.
Speaker 6: Sid is now springing off the bottom and stomping on
Speaker 6: Brett getting some airtime. Sid pops him in the corner
Speaker 6: and Jair says he is not as refined a technical
Speaker 6: wrestler as Brett Hart.
Speaker 3: But here we go, here we go the fucking bullshit,
Speaker 3: you know, like the.
Speaker 6: He doesn't know how to do a hammer lock.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. You know it's not only going to
Speaker 3: be you know, be high impact. Okay, thanks j R.
Speaker 6: Brett grabs A, grabs the waistband of Sid and starts
Speaker 6: throwing to the gut, right hands and then aside backbreaker
Speaker 6: scores with the hit man as he gets the big
Speaker 6: Sid off of his feet. Brett then tries to go
Speaker 6: to the sharpshooter, but no, it looks like he's going to. Instead,
Speaker 6: he does the head butt to the sternum up to
Speaker 6: the gut that he used to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of I always wonder why he did
Speaker 3: that tea. I mean, I guess for the for the
Speaker 3: the idea that it is a tease. Yeah, for the
Speaker 3: hold and not you know.
Speaker 6: But ye get people a little bit more excited when
Speaker 6: he does put it on. I guess is the thought
Speaker 6: middle rowe elbow drop at the head man. Lawler said
Speaker 6: Brett's parents were doing jaredital on the Rocks. Yeah, you
Speaker 6: talked about that. Brett now headbutting the back of Sid,
Speaker 6: which is a cool thing.
Speaker 3: He used to do.
Speaker 6: Throw head butts to the body. Yep, I like that too,
Speaker 6: writes an elbow to the head, Jr. Says the road
Speaker 6: wrestling it starts tonight.
Speaker 3: Wow, it's a little late. I know, I thought it
Speaker 3: started out the Royal Rumble.
Speaker 6: Jerr says, maybe the greatest of all time. The Undertaker
Speaker 6: awaits this one is Sid is first back to the
Speaker 6: gut and Kidney's hauling off. Now on the hit man.
Speaker 6: Brett falls to his knees. There's a lot of talk
Speaker 6: about Brett's lower back after last night. They mentioned being
Speaker 6: particularly vulnerable as he had been choked slammed by the
Speaker 6: Undertaker during the Final four. Sid then lifts Brett up
Speaker 6: and drops him with a front back breaker that gets
Speaker 6: a clean two count.
Speaker 3: Sign.
Speaker 6: If you can't run with the big dogs, then stay
Speaker 6: off of the net. I must have something to do
Speaker 6: to the Internet, the Internet, healthy online discourse. No doubt
Speaker 6: behind that sign. Sid choking bread across the middle rope
Speaker 6: Earl heavnerson Sid's face about it. Brett was so under
Speaker 6: siege in these matches, you know, oh yes, everything he did,
Speaker 6: for sure, everything he did. He seems like he walked
Speaker 6: out like expecting a bomb to drop on his head.
Speaker 3: Every ding, yeap, yep.
Speaker 6: Always Sid lifting off the bottom and stomping down on
Speaker 6: Brett quite a bit, drags him to the center of
Speaker 6: the ring and covers him for two. Brett retreats to
Speaker 6: the corner and starts kicking the knee of Sid and
Speaker 6: drops him, and the crowd reacts to that as he
Speaker 6: gets ahead, Girls in particular start chanting loudly for Brett
Speaker 6: as he pulls ahead here attacking the weekend knee. He
Speaker 6: then snaps down on the leg of Sid and drives
Speaker 6: down an elbow to the knee. He drapes Sid's leg
Speaker 6: in the bottom rope and sits.
Speaker 3: Down on it.
Speaker 6: Yep, stomps the leg. Classic, oh classic, Brett taking apart
Speaker 6: a bigger opponent. Absolutely what he do with Sid or
Speaker 6: Kevin Nash or Undertaker. And then he drags the leg
Speaker 6: to the corner post and slam sids nee into the
Speaker 6: post itself.
Speaker 3: Jr. Says the world title is Brett Hart's life. You
Speaker 3: know what a shoot that was. We didn't even know it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's for sure.
Speaker 6: He's going to do anything to get it back or
Speaker 6: to retain it. Brett almost loses the leg as he
Speaker 6: tries to figure four in the ring post.
Speaker 3: Jr.
Speaker 6: Goes off like he's never seen that before? Is this
Speaker 6: the first time Brett did the figure front of the post?
Speaker 3: I was wondering that myself, like, I I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it is.
Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like we've seen it before, but
Speaker 6: maybe not. I'm sure somebody will know, But there it is.
Speaker 6: It's called out of the broadcast? Is the first time
Speaker 6: Jim has seen it? They over break, they come back,
Speaker 6: Brett is still cranking. They talk about foot action featuring
Speaker 6: Airflight Turbulence from Nike Brings You foot Action rewind. Oh yeah,
Speaker 6: it was last night Undertaker kicking the chair in Invader's
Speaker 6: face that busted his face open, and they show Vader
Speaker 6: tuning off Austin on the floor and.
Speaker 3: The guess we're finally seeing that footage they were talking
Speaker 3: about in at the beginning of the show, right you know, Yeah,
Speaker 3: they finally deliver on it. Yeah we haven't seen this
Speaker 3: shit at all, but okay, got to.
Speaker 6: You by the airflight Turbulence for every action. There's foot
Speaker 6: action so good. Yeah, its logan.
Speaker 3: They show the mall. God help us. I love it.
Speaker 6: You come back, get it at your local shopping up there,
Speaker 6: sit on the canvas. Brett is in pursuit.
Speaker 3: Jr.
Speaker 6: Tells us Bread has been relentlessly focusing on the leg.
Speaker 6: During the commercial break, they go to the corner and
Speaker 6: Brett puts the leg over the middle rope and starts
Speaker 6: cranking on it and pulling on the ankle.
Speaker 3: Brett kicks away the leg as well.
Speaker 6: He then cranks it and Sid lifts the fist up
Speaker 6: and he delays, He delays, raining the shot down, and
Speaker 6: then he finally goes down with it, raining down. Bowlos
Speaker 6: on the chest goes off, Brett gets free and.
Speaker 3: Not sure what that is.
Speaker 6: There's a reversed Irish whip to the corner and Sid
Speaker 6: hits a huge downtown clothesline that drops Brett and collapses
Speaker 6: the crowd as they're just starting to rally for the
Speaker 6: hit man.
Speaker 3: I know of the way. Sid shuts that down. He
Speaker 3: looks so good in this mass.
Speaker 6: It's Brett man, that's Brett. He makes everyone look like
Speaker 6: they know what they're doing. Yeah, it was his hidden talent.
Speaker 6: He's like, okay, Like, I know, you do these five
Speaker 6: things and they always look like ship. So let's not
Speaker 6: do those, Let's do these instead. Just follow my lead.
Speaker 6: Sid is limping now as a result of all the
Speaker 6: work on his leg, but he still hits the ropes
Speaker 6: and is able to drop a high leg drop. I
Speaker 6: mean a fucking full on hull Cogan leg drop here
Speaker 6: from Sid brother exactly. That only gets too Why well,
Speaker 6: Sid got so much high is a bad wheel. I
Speaker 6: don't know if that was the best psychology in the world,
Speaker 6: but it looked cool.
Speaker 3: What do you mean look cool?
Speaker 10: Dude?
Speaker 3: What do you mean look cool? Was great leg drops
Speaker 3: like he used to be able to do for the week.
Speaker 3: You're telling me, is Sid hulk Hogan?
Speaker 6: I mean he's dropping the leg but people are kicking
Speaker 6: out people are people are kicking out a leg drop.
Speaker 6: So either he's not hule Cogan or what he used to.
Speaker 3: Sid hulk Hogan. Yes, absolutely shocked, shocked at that answer.
Speaker 6: He thought I was going to say no, because of
Speaker 6: course he's not Hulcoke. That is the respectable answer to
Speaker 6: give to that question, the intelligible one. So another cover
Speaker 6: by Sid that gets to Jared losing it. Ah, I
Speaker 6: want to match up, and you know he doesn't deploy
Speaker 6: that without really feeling it. So Sid lifts the front
Speaker 6: slam after a delay, bringing down the hitman. Then Sid
Speaker 6: goes to the middle rope. Oh man, that's not a
Speaker 6: good position for him to be in, historically almost losing
Speaker 6: it trying to get up there at all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, I got nervous. I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: You know, it's funny when when you see it, when
Speaker 3: you see it happen one time, you're like, you feel
Speaker 3: like it can happen anytime, even though this show happened way.
Speaker 6: Before before and unlike it Sin he's actually going for
Speaker 6: a guillotine leg drop where he's going to land in
Speaker 6: his ass instead of a flying kick.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 3: So he hits the leg drop off the middle, which
Speaker 3: is just crazy to see. I mean I remember him
Speaker 3: ever doing that.
Speaker 6: Sid taking off of the middle rope leg drop not
Speaker 6: an industry that made at all. No, Sid says, oh yeah,
Speaker 6: I can't work.
Speaker 3: Take a look at this. He said that to the camera.
Speaker 3: You see it's better than damn it, damn it, damn it.
Speaker 3: So he gets two on the cover, literally like a
Speaker 3: broken record on you know, caught.
Speaker 6: Pretty wild guys. Sid's size can only get two on
Speaker 6: a guillotine leg drop off the middle rope, but we'll
Speaker 6: take it back up. Sid goes to the gut and
Speaker 6: gooseles the hit man. He signals to the crowd that
Speaker 6: he's gonna go for the power bomb or the choke slam,
Speaker 6: but Brett breaks the eyes to get free, and you
Speaker 6: can hear the girls still want Brett.
Speaker 3: The girls have not turned on him, of course they
Speaker 3: still want it.
Speaker 6: Brett fires off on the ropes, ties up Sid in
Speaker 6: the ropes and hits the opposite side and then takes flight.
Speaker 6: But Sid gets out of the entanglement and there's no
Speaker 6: one there. And does anyone throw their self fucking recklessly
Speaker 6: into the ropes with a crossbody better than Brett Hart, No,
Speaker 6: he knows how to hit those ropes and get entangled
Speaker 6: in them, and they take a hard landing and it
Speaker 6: was awesome. Jerius's bread is not normally a risk taker,
Speaker 6: so that's kind of cool. It gets over when I
Speaker 6: know it.
Speaker 3: It doesn't hold up the scrutiny. But he's a constant
Speaker 3: fucking risk taker. He's always been a risk.
Speaker 6: Especial aginst bigg opponents. Yeah, takes off and but I
Speaker 6: thought it was goodde dives and all that shit.
Speaker 3: Like, come on, He's always doing.
Speaker 6: Risky stuff planches, yep, piscatos. But it kind of gets
Speaker 6: over how hard it is to topple Sid. You know,
Speaker 6: the idea that he did something uncharacteristic, because while he
Speaker 6: does do dives to the floor, that that one where
Speaker 6: he ties a guy up in the ropes and tries
Speaker 6: to jump at him. I'm not saying he never does it,
Speaker 6: but yeah, it's a little different than the usual high
Speaker 6: risk we see from him. So now Sid is clubbing
Speaker 6: Brett and pursues it, but he's back dropped out to
Speaker 6: the floor, and then who materializes but stone cold Steve Austin.
Speaker 6: Here we go and Sid drops him with the right
Speaker 6: hand out on the blue mats, and Austin covers up
Speaker 6: near the chairs and j R. Says Austin needs to
Speaker 6: be shackled. Sid gets up on the apron and then
Speaker 6: does Sid or does he not do a sunset flip
Speaker 6: from the apron into the ring? What the fuck am
Speaker 6: I watching?
Speaker 3: Exactly?
Speaker 6: I'm a baby face, right, So he does a slingshot
Speaker 6: sunset flip on Brett Hart like, why, I guess, what
Speaker 6: are you doing creative way to get to the sharp shooter.
Speaker 6: I don't know, because Bren goets through and kicks the
Speaker 6: legs and then he steps through, struggles to turn over
Speaker 6: the sharp shuter, but he finally gets it. Hepner's at
Speaker 6: eye level with Sid. Sid is pushing up trying to
Speaker 6: break the thing and chairs doing the big dramatic No
Speaker 6: one's ever broken the sharp shutter. He's gonna do what
Speaker 6: he's gonna do.
Speaker 3: Here, I got it. I got this whole last thing
Speaker 3: because it's just so fucking money, so money. Here comes
Speaker 3: Austin with a chair by the way, get ready.
Speaker 21: Nobody gets out of the short shooter in the shorter
Speaker 21: often him real hard on the face on steel tear.
Speaker 8: He was done.
Speaker 21: I don't con Sid him and realized that often does
Speaker 21: get even this sense.
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh, I said those.
Speaker 3: Times I go sad.
Speaker 4: This one's a day.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just fucking scenes, absolute scenes as Sid
Speaker 6: is once again the champion. The wait, the way Austin
Speaker 6: gets on that fucking apron. I want you to talk
Speaker 6: to me about it?
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, he.
Speaker 8: Just like.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 8: That he.
Speaker 3: Is going to commit harm by watching him the way
Speaker 3: that he climbs up, Yes, just the force, the the
Speaker 3: swagger he has, like he is just saying, oh, what
Speaker 3: a fuck things up?
Speaker 6: Exactly. He does it with like a cockiness. But he's
Speaker 6: also like the guy he picks a fight. He starts
Speaker 6: throwing first, he gets dropped, and then the guy turns
Speaker 6: away like see that's what you get. And as the
Speaker 6: guy's walking away, he still runs up behind him and
Speaker 6: cheap shots him exactly exactly, just won't stop until he
Speaker 6: gets the last word in the form of a fist
Speaker 6: or chair or some act of violence.
Speaker 3: Yep, and that's agreed.
Speaker 6: That's what Brett was made the victim of. So here
Speaker 6: a little extended version of what we just heard. Just
Speaker 6: the the celebration, the jubilation in the way this banner
Speaker 6: night in the career of sid went off the air
Speaker 6: in Nashville. What a power bone too, huh It brow fell.
Speaker 3: Up for those.
Speaker 2: I say that's time it Si sap. This one's again.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you to tell you about chap In.
Speaker 6: A couple of kids in the front row with Shawn
Speaker 6: Michael's T shirts like throwing their hands up a that
Speaker 6: result it's kind of funny.
Speaker 21: Sid, don't say it deadlocks again.
Speaker 22: No man sight gonna said, I'm gonna make me undertaker.
Speaker 2: That's not so many of thirteen. F Up said, looked up.
Speaker 22: You you have Chapin rap art him light in the
Speaker 22: face by stone coll Steve Austin with a steel chair
Speaker 22: and the referee.
Speaker 2: And Nicco said, we're neither one or lot of the feet.
Speaker 15: Yeah, come right there he's riding as he's.
Speaker 3: Just daunts him on the head. Yep. Yeah right here,
Speaker 3: just like the most deliberate shine the verse. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: got a car bomb.
Speaker 6: I don't around the raised to sing bob oh comment
Speaker 6: that doesn't starts is concerned.
Speaker 2: The Undertaker is here, obviously trouble.
Speaker 14: Yeah, we got trouble like exact sit as aw w
Speaker 14: w M Champion and the Undertaker.
Speaker 4: He is here the house.
Speaker 20: Oh the right, Sid lays the belt having him on
Speaker 20: the map between the two yep, and they come to
Speaker 20: center pace to face thurteen brill.
Speaker 2: That's the man turn. The Undertaker become a man once again.
Speaker 2: Look at fawn ride. He's darn right into the want
Speaker 2: to Wrestle Mania thirteen. It's gonna be tampion M. We'll
Speaker 2: see you next week from New Guard City.
Speaker 3: I want to finish. Oh it's tremendous. Finish, absolutely tremendous.
Speaker 6: So you have Sid with with a with a short
Speaker 6: but sweet celebration, with the championship providing the bridge, providing
Speaker 6: the glue to getting to WrestleMania thirteen and his eventual
Speaker 6: last reign there as w F champion, really his last
Speaker 6: run in WWF of yeah, of any consequence well, lying
Speaker 6: on the mat, collecting himself woozy as all hell, being
Speaker 6: tended to by Earl Hebner's of course Brett Hart, who's
Speaker 6: on his way to the heel turn of a lifetime
Speaker 6: and uh, the heel turn that would spark the most
Speaker 6: consequential babyface run for WWF of all time in the
Speaker 6: form of Steve Austin and all he did and put
Speaker 6: out there. But before it got there, it was working
Speaker 6: with Sid, and it was making this thing go across
Speaker 6: the finish line and making it look good. And Brett
Speaker 6: certainly did as part as he always did in that
Speaker 6: ring with Sid. And so as we pay tribute to
Speaker 6: Sid and we build it in no small part around
Speaker 6: this banner night for him winning the championship in Nashville.
Speaker 6: We decided that maybe it would make some sense to
Speaker 6: get some perspective on who and what we lost from
Speaker 6: the man who went up for the power bomb that
Speaker 6: night himself. And after this, we'll see you next time
Speaker 6: for a continuation of our tribute to Sid.
Speaker 8: Hey, this is Break the hite Man Heart, and I'm
Speaker 8: going to do the best to answer your questions JP.
Speaker 8: Sid was actually was a pretty nice guy. Everybody I
Speaker 8: think kind of like him for just being a big, strong,
Speaker 8: kind of funny guy. He said some funny things sometimes.
Speaker 8: He was pretty much liked by everybody. And all I
Speaker 8: can say is that night with the after the Final four,
Speaker 8: when I had that short run with my title, I
Speaker 8: had no problem with what the outcome was going to be,
Speaker 8: and I I was all set up. I thought Sid
Speaker 8: was an interesting guy to work with, and I thought
Speaker 8: the match we had was really good.
Speaker 3: And I always got on well with Sid. He was
Speaker 3: one of those kind of guys that could.
Speaker 8: Be taken advantage of sometimes because he sometimes didn't seem
Speaker 8: to understand the business really well. When you know, he
Speaker 8: was one of those kind of guys that would often
Speaker 8: come to me for advice and stuff like that. And
Speaker 8: I would always try to steer him in the right
Speaker 8: direction and pointing towards being a big star.
Speaker 3: And he always was a big star.
Speaker 8: And I feel bad for him and his family, but
Speaker 8: I do know that you know he had been sick
Speaker 8: for some time, and I'm I'm glad he's finally in peace.
Speaker 8: And I hope those answer your questions was Sid was
Speaker 8: a good man and it's too bad that.
Speaker 3: We lost him so early.
Speaker 8: God bless.
Speaker 6: I think it was at Pertain Nails when as a
Speaker 6: Tea J.
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