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Speaker 2: Howdy, folks, your host double J back here, coming at
Speaker 2: you live slash Live from my studio slash RV dining
Speaker 2: room located directly inside America. Anyhow, folks of the interwebs,
Speaker 2: welcome back again JJ Vance here. I'm host of Operation
Speaker 2: GCD and perhaps more notably not not the vice president
Speaker 2: right there. Anyhow, I will be your pilot and navigator
Speaker 2: for tonight's Shenanigan infused journey into the mind of this
Speaker 2: particular garbage can dude and um not gonna lot of
Speaker 2: your folks. Got a real barn burner here on Deck
Speaker 2: Free all tonight the occult and or so teric review
Speaker 2: of the nineteen eighty I'm sorry disregard nineteen ninety three
Speaker 2: comedy cinematic masterpiece. So I married an axe murderer, So
Speaker 2: before I welcome on tonight's guest and panel here for
Speaker 2: this review from a thank you folks the game here
Speaker 2: for joining us tonight to get a little GCD. And
Speaker 2: like I said, you got a real barn burner on deck.
Speaker 2: We got Hearty Love Unfiltered Rise Podcast.
Speaker 4: Welcome, HEDI, Hi, thanks for having me. Always a wonderful
Speaker 4: time and one of my favorite movies. JJ.
Speaker 2: So no, you ain't kidding up. I agree with you
Speaker 2: on both both counts, ma'am. The always enjoy our conversations,
Speaker 2: and this is easily one of my favorite films for sure.
Speaker 2: And we had a we had a real barn Burner
Speaker 2: conversation the other night. They're on Charles's podcast over there
Speaker 2: at the host of the Eyes and Ears podcast.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was a good one. That was a
Speaker 4: good one.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed that one, for sure. Check it out.
Speaker 4: A little bit of bloodline magic over there. You might
Speaker 4: want to check it out, guys, I.
Speaker 2: Mean the cult, the occult Bloodlines of America. You know,
Speaker 2: you know, it is an underlying thing I like to
Speaker 2: speak about here, and you and I frequently discussed when
Speaker 2: we collaborate on shows and discussions, But it isn't an
Speaker 2: element that I think does play into everything within a
Speaker 2: lot of the folks that put hidden things in films,
Speaker 2: which we see tonight here as well. So in our
Speaker 2: next did you have any plugs you'd like to plug
Speaker 2: here before we welcome in our next guest here.
Speaker 4: Ready sure, sure, And so I'm Heidi Love. If you
Speaker 4: don't know me, I'm at the Unfiltered Rise. I'm everwhere
Speaker 4: podcasters served. You can't find me at my own website
Speaker 4: Unfiltered Rise podcast dot com and anywhere else you want
Speaker 4: to check me out, I'm probably there. I'm usually bouncing.
Speaker 2: In spoken bab I like that one. That's a good
Speaker 2: thing I have for humor right there, now, that's good stuff.
Speaker 2: I again, thanks again, ah you for joining me, Julia,
Speaker 2: welcome man, thanks for joining me here to get a
Speaker 2: little gc D welcome, Welcome back for your first time.
Speaker 5: My first time. Every time it feels.
Speaker 2: Like I'm going a joke I like to make right
Speaker 2: mm hmm. So uh would you like to What's what
Speaker 2: are you working on over there at Cosmic Peach. I
Speaker 2: know we've done epic Tuesday World conversations, you know, in
Speaker 2: the recent past, and and you know a very great
Speaker 2: conversation with you and your husband Colby on the Colts
Speaker 2: the creepy cult situation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know Colby is wanting to do some more
Speaker 5: cult stuff with you. Hopefully I can join in on
Speaker 5: that one too. I always love talking about colts love
Speaker 5: joining anytime on Operation GCD, we always have a blast.
Speaker 5: It's always a barn burner. We burned the barn down.
Speaker 2: That's what we aim to do here. Yeah, and any
Speaker 2: plugs you'd like to make you working on anything else
Speaker 2: you're working on right now?
Speaker 5: Well, I have a presentation that I actually want to
Speaker 5: bring on to Operation GCD at some point of Program
Speaker 5: Killer that I discovered that I think you'll find very interesting.
Speaker 5: But as usual Cosmic Peach podcast wherever you listen to podcasts,
Speaker 5: if you want to get in touch with me, please
Speaker 5: send me an email. But yeah, no, just uh just
Speaker 5: running and gunning.
Speaker 2: Well, program Killers, Now you're talking my language. That's what
Speaker 2: I've been covering in the lot here in recent weeks
Speaker 2: are in Operation g c D.
Speaker 5: Were Yeah, we'll have it's pretty gray gray.
Speaker 2: Well, before I bring in her last guesser this evening
Speaker 2: my Abbot and Costello comedy duo partner from his Cane
Speaker 2: B's Idaho four channel. You know, the one thing that
Speaker 2: that I think is a meta analysis here on the
Speaker 2: note of these program Killers on the film So I
Speaker 2: Married an Axe Murderer? Is we're in it's telling a
Speaker 2: tale about San Francisco, a town with a lot of
Speaker 2: these program killers, as you just described, and it's doing
Speaker 2: so in a manner about a serial killer, just saying so,
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of that in tonight's film.
Speaker 2: So and last but not least, or how welcome kN
Speaker 2: be to your first This is the this is the
Speaker 2: Purge takeover, this Purge invasion of Operation g c D,
Speaker 2: the reversion invasion. Usually I'm invading the Purge, but hitting
Speaker 2: be's the Purge Idaho for Avan Costell, I would like
Speaker 2: to describe our routine over there, and I appreciate you
Speaker 2: joining me.
Speaker 3: Sir, Me and my cookie.
Speaker 2: I see we brought our type two diabetes snacks with
Speaker 2: us tonight.
Speaker 3: Out gavidating the match.
Speaker 2: That let me know, I don't know, I wasn't prepared
Speaker 2: for this. You only bring my snack to the Purge.
Speaker 3: You should have know.
Speaker 2: He So, what what's We had a pretty good Purge yesterday,
Speaker 2: going over some new details that seemed to be a
Speaker 2: whirlwind of topics. I saw some clips from a different
Speaker 2: YouTube creator talking about that, uh, you know, the new
Speaker 2: Brian's friend that got rolled out along the top side
Speaker 2: with these door dash things that get rolled out right
Speaker 2: all these distractions. Huh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was calling people fat in his video that
Speaker 3: got taken down and then he attacked her, and uh yeah,
Speaker 3: you don't mess with Jewels.
Speaker 6: She's she's a good lady, she's smart, one of the
Speaker 6: friends of the show.
Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned about that man's criminal has for
Speaker 2: my assessments. But that's a different story all together, and
Speaker 2: perhaps just ground for the next.
Speaker 3: Plot for Monday. There Ja Jay four shootday.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, we'll do what we do on a weekend purchase.
Speaker 2: So the next next purchase Monday or Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Huh, so we're taking a weekend.
Speaker 6: If I do a pop up surprise purge, it wouldn't
Speaker 6: be surprised. I've been purging pretty much twenty four hours
Speaker 6: straight for the last couple of days and on stop
Speaker 6: on my not Candy's channeling on here now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on my channel.
Speaker 6: So yeah, there's a lot coming out, a lot to
Speaker 6: talk about, and then you got to get the goofing
Speaker 6: around off also as well.
Speaker 3: Today there was a lot of articles I tagged you in.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you had a chance to look
Speaker 3: at those.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: A mother in Idaho thinks that her teenage children thirteen
Speaker 6: and fifteen, we're kidnapped by an offshoot of the LDS Church.
Speaker 2: Well, you're in the right spot for these stories, my friend.
Speaker 2: They had Heidi's ear. She's an expert in these topics
Speaker 2: or clean.
Speaker 3: Or fresh or whatever it is. Yeah, that's kind of
Speaker 3: creepy story that this.
Speaker 2: Just popped off today close to my house.
Speaker 4: We're going to Idaho.
Speaker 3: It happened on Sunday, actually Sunday night while she was
Speaker 3: at Bible study. The children vanished and she was a
Speaker 3: part of this cult.
Speaker 6: And that's what they do with kids, is they sacrifice them, basically,
Speaker 6: and and they're supposed to be reborn clean.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, yeah, such matters rights.
Speaker 4: Of glory visions of glory cult right.
Speaker 6: Well, the musicians of the higher echelon in Idaho also
Speaker 6: are attached to I think these these offshoot.
Speaker 3: Cults, but as well as the LDS Church in general.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you said that, because, uh, you've come
Speaker 2: to the right place soft these matters. Sorry, I will
Speaker 2: in fact be including the Bob Bob Cocaine Evans factor
Speaker 2: to the Knight's film and the processed church factor to
Speaker 2: the Knight's film, So just throw that out.
Speaker 5: I'm excited as well. That's very interesting and uh.
Speaker 2: If I may plug a couple of things before we
Speaker 2: get started, I'm definitely got to folks to check out
Speaker 2: the Iao for Purge Kane, b's the purge for your
Speaker 2: id ho for uh, you know, news information and your
Speaker 2: latest and fast food and type two diabetes informations. So
Speaker 2: the uh. It's interesting that you mentioned that thing about
Speaker 2: a air force bombing yesterday because I still had about it, Kane,
Speaker 2: but Heidi was just telling me about it. If you
Speaker 2: if you wanted to bring that up, I know you were.
Speaker 2: You won my opinion on that, sir. So I'm happy
Speaker 2: to share that with you for my plugs.
Speaker 3: Oh, sure, share it with Heidi. I see how it goes.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: I was actually sharing with him that, uh a couple
Speaker 4: days ago. It's been one hundred degrees all week and
Speaker 4: then it got down to forty five degrees in the
Speaker 4: middle of summer and we had a huge sonic boom,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, what in the earth that wasn't the
Speaker 4: dog like, come on, what is happening? And actually really
Speaker 4: scared my little girl. She uh, she freaked out and
Speaker 4: I was like, it's okay, Like we'll figure it out,
Speaker 4: and they were like, sorry about it, we didn't tell
Speaker 4: you we're setting off the bombs. I'm like, ship the
Speaker 4: Nine's gonna come. Oh my gosh. You know, when they
Speaker 4: started setting off the bombs, those aliens come back.
Speaker 3: So I thought I was gonna be able to be
Speaker 3: the big star here today with my tornado a mile
Speaker 3: over from my house today about an hour ago.
Speaker 2: But you gotta st your game here gain here at operations.
Speaker 3: Especially, I forgot who I was dealing with me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got you got you gotta. You gotta understand
Speaker 2: the environment you're walking into here. These are heavy hitters.
Speaker 2: You're a king.
Speaker 3: I got no regrets. I got no regrets.
Speaker 2: I don't have a cookie, much like yourself, sir, much
Speaker 2: like yourself, so all respect. I honestly didn't know anthing
Speaker 2: about that, but the Heidi was telling me about it,
Speaker 2: and it sounds very interesting, and I assume this is
Speaker 2: the the air Force bomb you were describing to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah. Then they then they did it again. So
Speaker 4: they did it again and just were like oo's So
Speaker 4: they're obviously detonating and practicing out here. You know, there's
Speaker 4: a lot of downwinterers out here that have permanent damage
Speaker 4: from the last time they played this game and then
Speaker 4: it gets all cold, and you know, I'm like, what
Speaker 4: are they lighting up? There's Bill Gates here. I want
Speaker 4: to know. I don't know, but yeah, the sun definitely
Speaker 4: went away, so very two days.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to embarrass.
Speaker 4: I mean, they do all kinds of stuff here. I
Speaker 4: dare say the Mormons have sold out the Goyam and
Speaker 4: just don't care. They're locked up in there whatever proof houses.
Speaker 4: So eah.
Speaker 2: In regardless Twiz's comment there about the bonners, it reminded
Speaker 2: me of a statement you made yesterday. Not fear boners came,
Speaker 2: but when you were doing your introduction yesterday, you mentioned
Speaker 2: what sounded me to like necromancy. Elon Musk was taking
Speaker 2: the ashes of individuals into space.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, well, not him personally, but his his uh
Speaker 3: his rocket craft. There.
Speaker 2: One of those individuals was check Off. Is that correct?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: No, Scotty, I'm.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Scotty. Yes, So Scotty's son was Boner from Checkoff.
Speaker 3: Might be in there. Uh, that's uh. And then also
Speaker 3: Geene Roddenberry as.
Speaker 2: Well, well, there you go. So that that was what
Speaker 2: one name I forgot to included yesterday the Bob cocaine
Speaker 2: factor of that matter. Those are Bob's friends.
Speaker 4: Geen Roden, Genie Boy was definitely I'll include in on
Speaker 4: the most that's for.
Speaker 2: Sure for sure, and the uh and Bonner from Growing
Speaker 2: Pains Dad Scotty there. I don't know you're familiar with
Speaker 2: Boner's death, Dude, That dude did a really weirda.
Speaker 3: So did the guy from the Dad from ALF also
Speaker 3: passed really wild.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if Boner from Growing Pains had
Speaker 2: the same myth in gay black male prostitute probaly that
Speaker 2: the father did. But you know, you know, I didn't know.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of tabloids photos of that elf or
Speaker 2: the elf the ALF father, and he's done a lot
Speaker 2: of mouth, a lot of with a lot of gay
Speaker 2: black male prostitutes. So no judgment here, I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: I don't know it's exact same circumstances.
Speaker 4: Prostitution in general, or if you're found strangling yourself in
Speaker 4: your own death, it's probably not a good look, Like
Speaker 4: don't don't die during it, for heaven's sakes.
Speaker 2: Clean it up well for sure. But do you all
Speaker 2: remember that fell about name of Brian Pack who was
Speaker 2: involved in diddling one of them kids for I think
Speaker 2: from the Disney Junior maybe I think it was he
Speaker 2: was Leonardo DiCaprio's babysitter or whatever on the Grown Paint set.
Speaker 2: I just imagine a lot of dark ship.
Speaker 5: Now it's Nickelodeon.
Speaker 2: Was it a Nickelodeon didler? Okay, I thought he did
Speaker 2: on one of them kids from the Wizards of Waverley
Speaker 2: play show. Maybe get my conflated.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was for sure diddling. Uh what's his fuck?
Speaker 5: From Drake and Josh? I think it was Drake.
Speaker 2: There you go. That was Nickelodeon. Okay, that was Yeah?
Speaker 5: That that that he was a Nickelodeon pervert. And there
Speaker 5: was plenty of them.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Got Samantha for Mike Carley as.
Speaker 4: So sad that we gotta Montana going crazy up in
Speaker 4: the house, like you can see the fallout from all
Speaker 4: this stuff.
Speaker 3: I have a cut.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you said that. You glad you said that,
Speaker 2: because that's you guys want to hear it. Uh, can
Speaker 2: we can we hold that for maybe the intermission? Maybe
Speaker 2: the intermission will do that. So I'm glad you said,
Speaker 2: Amanda Bynes, because everyone wants to tribute Oliver Downfall to
Speaker 2: Dan Schneider, And I'm not saying he's not a factor involved,
Speaker 2: but I'd like to know where Dan Schneider and j J.
Speaker 2: Brin the neo processed cult leader meet, because Amanda Bynes
Speaker 2: his best friend for many years. What party until the
Speaker 2: wee hours of the morning was JJ Brian and incognito?
Speaker 2: Amanda Binds parties with wild eyed friend in La until
Speaker 2: four am, and she continues to turn down parents help,
Speaker 2: And there he is, mister processed church himself.
Speaker 5: Have you seen that Amanda Binds is now advocating for
Speaker 5: a Zimpic two?
Speaker 2: Sorry I have not seen that, but uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if she's an advocate for anything. Quite honestly,
Speaker 2: who's going to take her word for you know me
Speaker 2: at this point?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 3: Unless she lost a bunch of lights on she's the man?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: That's That's a good one, well played, a good one.
Speaker 2: So tonight's film, I have a brief, uh, a brief
Speaker 2: trailer for everyone to watch. But before I do that,
Speaker 2: I want to do a couple real fast plugs. Tomorrow
Speaker 2: Night Operation GCD Thursdays, nine pm Eastern Standard times or
Speaker 2: whateverever that works Eastern Times wrong one. I got the
Speaker 2: Anatomy of Satanic Panic Volume two, talking and unpacking the
Speaker 2: Satanic Panic in the real world, actual events that occurred,
Speaker 2: and around the non muppetized version of this fellow Michael Lokina, who,
Speaker 2: much like Tonight's tale, took place in San Francisco. You
Speaker 2: can see the Trans America building that's a weird name,
Speaker 2: the Pyramid, the Golden gate Bridge, and I got a
Speaker 2: little presidio billboard there for him too. And then operations
Speaker 2: GCD Sundays not too far off from Tonight's tale either,
Speaker 2: because as you see here, Bob Cocaine Evans, I redid
Speaker 2: ghost Stories. I did this last Wednesdays, and I redid
Speaker 2: the ghost Stories logo, but did Manson Family Murder style.
Speaker 2: So now Miss Peggy's Sharon Tate, you know Caine, you
Speaker 2: know the Goucha's father's military US Army Intelligence officer boss,
Speaker 2: the lead detective of the IADHOA four case. His father
Speaker 2: was the protege to Sharon Tate's US Army Intelligence father.
Speaker 2: They were he worked for him in the US Army Intelligence.
Speaker 2: So that's obviously a weird connection in one of these
Speaker 2: quote unquote six degrees of the Manson family murders. But
Speaker 2: then I got I couldn't do a good Nicholson. This
Speaker 2: is the best I got here on Nicholson on the left,
Speaker 2: Jack Nicholson. I think Rum and Polanski turned out pretty well.
Speaker 2: And then I got Cocaine Bob. I love Cocaine Bob. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and uh, you know, I think, uh Charles Manson here
Speaker 2: turned out looking more like a Doctor Seus's character than
Speaker 2: a muppet. But you know, I'll deal with it, do
Speaker 2: it later.
Speaker 3: It looks like you got stretched out like Plato.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I'm I don't love it, but you
Speaker 2: I do love the Swatsika. I nailed that one. I
Speaker 2: feel like it's it's it's when I say I nailed it,
Speaker 2: that's accurate depiction of the actual Swatsika and processed Church
Speaker 2: simply he had on his own head in the exact
Speaker 2: you know, it's down down to the details when I'm saying, folks,
Speaker 2: tention to details important here.
Speaker 5: The Guest Story Show was super fun though.
Speaker 2: That was an amazing movie, wasn't it.
Speaker 5: Yeah that was somebody put that in the comments, who
Speaker 5: I I think it was a great episode.
Speaker 2: So as far so I've applied that same concept kind
Speaker 2: of that story, you know the plotline of these old
Speaker 2: men getting together telling about this ghost story, and I've
Speaker 2: I've re envisioned it as these old men, you know
Speaker 2: in the Ghost Story being sharing take that they that
Speaker 2: they were responsible for her murdered decades earlier, just like
Speaker 2: in the film Ghost Story. So I'm just saying there's
Speaker 2: a lot of these things that when we see then
Speaker 2: I embedded. My point being is there's kind of a
Speaker 2: even an esoteric aspect to uh, these you know, meta
Speaker 2: narratives that we see play out within these same cult groups, right,
Speaker 2: and that are embedded in these films. Right, It's a
Speaker 2: nice film San Francisco serial Killers and Mike Myers who
Speaker 2: recently got associated with the CIA despite being Canadian.
Speaker 4: Right, Hey, what are you talking about?
Speaker 8: Ah?
Speaker 2: Did y'all see that?
Speaker 4: No? I did not.
Speaker 5: I did not know about that.
Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, it came out in the Deddy trial speaking
Speaker 2: of Idaho contract, because I assert that's part of the
Speaker 2: Deddi trial is part of Idaho. Contrary, his his cellmates
Speaker 2: has been Sam bank and Freed. They have the same attorneys,
Speaker 2: and Sam bankman Freed bought out a small bank in
Speaker 2: rural Washington forty five miles north of Washington State and
Speaker 2: University of Idaho campuses in the preceding years before the
Speaker 2: murders in eleven thirteen, twenty twenty two, and the University
Speaker 2: of Idaho president has associations with those with that same
Speaker 2: FTX business dealings, So there's a lot of weird stuff
Speaker 2: going on there. But bankman Freed bought out a bank
Speaker 2: was doing a cash for crypto scam that he's basically
Speaker 2: walked on despite being charged for other things. He's walked
Speaker 2: on that thus far. And Diddy made an emergency stop
Speaker 2: in Idaho sharply before he got arrested. So weird shit
Speaker 2: going around this ditty trial Tamy. And it ain't just
Speaker 2: the GHB and the baby oil stuff. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of weird shit going on here.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Well, whenever it's that slippery, you have to watch yourself.
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 2: You ain't kidding, You ain't kidding, literally slippy slipping right.
Speaker 3: You know that they're they're in deliberations on whether to
Speaker 3: dismiss all charges right now.
Speaker 2: And wow, that's what I'm saying. And then bankman Freed's
Speaker 2: trying to walk in a lot of his stuff too.
Speaker 4: Well, you know that base and all that got dropped.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying they have a way to get rid
Speaker 4: of things if they want to.
Speaker 5: Well, if you con part of the the it's just
Speaker 5: part of the theater of it all.
Speaker 2: Really, I mean, I think it's part of the national
Speaker 2: security state part of it. If you compare all this
Speaker 2: to Iran contour and everybody walked there and you know
Speaker 2: the few that got brought up on charges that you
Speaker 2: know the ones that the ones that got charged are
Speaker 2: the ones that were blowing the whistles, so to speak,
Speaker 2: and that one of those people, one of those people
Speaker 2: comes up in tonight's plotline. Lend in the roofs you
Speaker 2: often or that mm hmmm, well it's the infam it's
Speaker 2: my favorite scene in tonight's film. And before I get
Speaker 2: too far, and I will, we'll play the preview for
Speaker 2: folks who are unfamiliar. But it's my favorite scene. When
Speaker 2: he starts going into that pentavert in his conspiracy theory
Speaker 2: as well, I love it. That's when he starts his
Speaker 2: wife there, Mike Myers' character's mother in the film. There,
Speaker 2: she says that he's quoting that Lendon the Rouse rubbish game.
Speaker 2: Solendon LaRouche was an associate of Oliver North and was
Speaker 2: starting to out both the Iran contra stuff and the
Speaker 2: Process Church specifically in nineteen eighty six. And what happened
Speaker 2: was then the US Attorney's Office hired the Processed Church's attorney,
Speaker 2: and then that guy, John Markham prosecuted lending the rouge
Speaker 2: for fraud. So there's a lot to that Laroche stuff
Speaker 2: relative to the Process And that's not the only Process
Speaker 2: connection to tonight's tale.
Speaker 5: Only you JJ would have caught that shit.
Speaker 2: Oh you you ain't kidding, ma'am. So, uh, this film
Speaker 2: came out, well, I'll get to that in a second.
Speaker 2: How I got interested in this film and my biggest
Speaker 2: takeaway there which I kind of already shared, So spoiler alert,
Speaker 2: process stuff shocker. But we see Mike Myers. What is
Speaker 2: the Austin powers Nedison's reaction to testimony? Did he trial
Speaker 2: about Mike Myers? I don't know what that means because
Speaker 2: that's not what the title was I clicked on, But
Speaker 2: there was a The latest testimony in the ongoing trial
Speaker 2: of Seawan Combe's ak Puff Daddy in a federal court
Speaker 2: Manhattan revealed even more celebrities who were invited to attend
Speaker 2: Comb's parties. Damn and I clicked on an article about
Speaker 2: the CIA. Comb's former assistant described setting up a private
Speaker 2: tour of the CIA for Myers as his former employee.
Speaker 2: So in some associations, Uh, for whatever reason here did
Speaker 2: he and Mike Myers are doing CIA tours together in
Speaker 2: around the same associate activities at least?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 2: What we also see some other characters mentioned here also
Speaker 2: mentioned in the trial.
Speaker 5: Madonna, Well that one's not a shocker.
Speaker 2: Well, that's true, but her her best friend is in
Speaker 2: tonight's film Who's her Best Picture? One of her best
Speaker 2: friends for many decades is in Debbie Masar. Now that's
Speaker 2: reading cane boy. That's a good one, sir. Debbie Who
Speaker 2: Debbie Masar?
Speaker 5: Mazar's that lady.
Speaker 2: She played the girlfriend of Anthony Lapalace's character.
Speaker 5: Oh at the diner, Yeah.
Speaker 2: The diner lady.
Speaker 5: The fuck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Madonna's with Madonna back then even too, That's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying and still today. Yeah, and you got
Speaker 2: to consider that. You have to look at that, because
Speaker 2: you know, then you look at Madonna, You're like, what
Speaker 2: is going on there?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Oh? So much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not even just talking about her. Look at
Speaker 2: her family.
Speaker 4: It's so many, there's so many.
Speaker 2: What is going on here?
Speaker 3: What monsters right there?
Speaker 2: Isn't dude, That's the first thing I thought of, the
Speaker 2: first thing I thought of.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: First of all, their facelifts have got to have had
Speaker 4: some babies in them, because lately they all look normal again.
Speaker 4: Remember she looked like a cat a year ago.
Speaker 2: Remember, Can we agree that the individual on the left
Speaker 2: is a dude? Can we agree on that?
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't even know anymore.
Speaker 2: Second of the left looks like share it's a young
Speaker 2: share lortists.
Speaker 4: Yeah, her name is Lords.
Speaker 5: I can't. I can't even because if we get started
Speaker 5: on yeah, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2: Somebody on stage, Oh gross, I didn't diaper fell off.
Speaker 3: It depends on who you ask. I guess it.
Speaker 5: Depends on who you ask. Madonna went from the spooky
Speaker 5: lion face. That's funny, she.
Speaker 4: The spooky lion faces?
Speaker 2: Are them two youngsters on the Charlie's Their Own program?
Speaker 2: You remember that she adopts two young black boys. You know,
Speaker 2: you know Africans from Africa. She's African, but she's South African,
Speaker 2: so that's when I made the difference. There. She adopts
Speaker 2: two young African boys and sis, congratulations, you're an American
Speaker 2: and you're a girl.
Speaker 4: Now, oh that sucks. What if you want to be
Speaker 4: a boy?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Some pretty pretty princesses wow, along.
Speaker 4: With Megan's kids, Megan Fox's little girl boys see them
Speaker 4: same thing.
Speaker 5: By the way, they all do it non human almost.
Speaker 4: They get like, I get, We're okay, you're not. You're
Speaker 4: a child. You're so young, so you don't have to
Speaker 4: worry about this. But listen, I'm getting older and I
Speaker 4: will not make my face a lion face.
Speaker 2: First of all.
Speaker 4: Second of all, I don't know about poisons in my
Speaker 4: face either. I feel I might have an allergic reaction
Speaker 4: and die.
Speaker 5: But like you know, you're talking like boattox and stuff like.
Speaker 4: That, None of that, None of I've done, none of that.
Speaker 5: I gotta be honest with you, Heidi. I think what
Speaker 5: they're doing goes beyond what's available to someone like you
Speaker 5: and I. Anyways, I don't think I think the proceed
Speaker 5: beyond like your your traditional boatox here and there or
Speaker 5: like a little bit of that. I mean, I think
Speaker 5: they're doing some inhuman type stuff. That we won't have
Speaker 5: access to ever.
Speaker 4: To beyond that, we don't even understand that we would.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that we were not even aware is an option at.
Speaker 2: This Just listen to what they say they do. They
Speaker 2: put like baby foreskin all over their face and stuff
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: So Sandy B. Sandy B said that one.
Speaker 2: She said that, well, that part I think Fox as too.
Speaker 2: She also does weird blood stuff. If they if they
Speaker 2: admit to these things that they're admitting to, what do
Speaker 2: they do behind closed doors?
Speaker 5: Well, and I think that they almost look at at
Speaker 5: stuff like boatox is like beneath them. It's like, oh,
Speaker 5: save that for the peasants getting botox like you and
Speaker 5: bro right, like you and I would look at it
Speaker 5: and be like, oh, you know, I'm not really interested
Speaker 5: in boat tox. It's like a weird poison that people
Speaker 5: are injected into their face. And they're like, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 5: I don't want that shit either.
Speaker 7: Give me Yeah, They're like, yeah, you go get it's
Speaker 7: I don't disagree.
Speaker 2: It's definitely for the peasants. That's I mean, that is
Speaker 2: definitely going to be you know, it's the it's the
Speaker 2: class warfare of the matters, right, They're not going to
Speaker 2: do everything else to the lower people in society, or I.
Speaker 5: Got cut out. I got cut out. But yeah, I
Speaker 5: think I think they're doing all kinds of weird stuff.
Speaker 5: I mean stuff that we will never.
Speaker 4: Think they're You think they're trying to look like fallen angels, Julia.
Speaker 5: I don't know what they're trying to look like. It's
Speaker 5: some type of like cartoon version, a bloated faced version
Speaker 5: of like it's like it's inhuman. Nobody's face actually looks
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 2: All the same, right, Like you can look at a
Speaker 2: picture like carry Fisher Late in Life, and you can
Speaker 2: look at a picture of you can look at a
Speaker 2: picture of Carrie Fisher in Later in Life and look
Speaker 2: at a picture of Bruce Chener and they look strikingly similar.
Speaker 5: Right after all that, right, they even made a joke
Speaker 5: about it. My husband took me to go see the
Speaker 5: new twenty eight Years Later movie and they made it there.
Speaker 2: Huh, that's silly. And Murphy's is that the star of that?
Speaker 2: Still the Scarecrow?
Speaker 4: Is it?
Speaker 5: I don't, I don't know. You did you watch twenty
Speaker 5: eight Days Later, the zombie movie? So I did, so
Speaker 5: this is like the sequel to that twenty eight years later.
Speaker 5: Basically it's like the sequel or whatever.
Speaker 2: But is he back in it though, Silly Murphy is
Speaker 2: the same, dude, I don't.
Speaker 5: I didn't recognize anybody in the cat. I think it's
Speaker 5: like all new peeps. But anyways, I just found it
Speaker 5: funny because you know, it is a joke, and uh,
Speaker 5: I think that they they got stuff in their their
Speaker 5: creams and serums and stuff that they get from like
Speaker 5: children's hospitals. You know when they do the spider bivodous
Speaker 5: stuff and.
Speaker 4: They reception off that fluid that's so yeah, it's called
Speaker 4: you said.
Speaker 5: The uh, it's called spina biffitia something, and they put
Speaker 5: it into the cosmetic products. So all these hospitals that
Speaker 5: are doing like all this good will stuff for the
Speaker 5: kids that are suffering from all these like horrible medical ailments,
Speaker 5: they're literally siphoning off like parts of their bodies and
Speaker 5: they included into cosmetic products.
Speaker 4: So you're talking about the final fluid.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know, it's like you said before, weird
Speaker 5: foreskin stuff and they all think it's hilarious.
Speaker 2: But there's always new ship. I've never heard of this
Speaker 2: until the other day. If you all heard of this,
Speaker 2: Heidi of vasper machine. It's some sort of new rehabilitation. No,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, it's it's bractle. It's supposed to help them
Speaker 2: recover from muscles overnight, like you know, three times as quickly.
Speaker 4: And you know my husband's watching. Don't get any ideas, buff,
Speaker 4: I don't know. We're not doing that.
Speaker 2: Well I don't. I don't exactly. I haven't got it
Speaker 2: around my brain hole around exactly how it works. But
Speaker 2: this is the this is the next greatest thing in
Speaker 2: athletic training. So there's always something, Julia, you know, whether
Speaker 2: it's injecting stuff or doing stuff like this where there
Speaker 2: are people that you know that the masses of public
Speaker 2: don't know about.
Speaker 3: Right, you know what its like. It looks like a
Speaker 3: cross between around and those stretchy weights.
Speaker 2: What were they called the X or the oh Shinner's list, gotcha?
Speaker 3: No, the boat flex it's above. Oh yeah, and hove
Speaker 3: around remember the have around commercials.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's a there is a bow flex aspect
Speaker 2: of that. There's both flex kind of resistance training.
Speaker 3: To that sounded just like Julia's grandmother.
Speaker 2: Just well, if without any further ado here, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: play a quick trailer, and then we'll we'll go around
Speaker 2: table on what what you're what got you interested in
Speaker 2: this film originally and what was the biggest takeaway you saw,
Speaker 2: you know, after rewatching it today, you know through a
Speaker 2: newer lens, you know, many many years later, right from
Speaker 2: your initial viewings. Well, I don't know about what about
Speaker 2: when did you first see A Julia, Because I know
Speaker 2: I saw the theater around Okana and Heidi boat so
Speaker 2: they saw it shortly after.
Speaker 5: It will be funny played the trailer. I will say
Speaker 5: I was born in late ninety four. She doesn't, man,
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm I totally missed it. Obviously. I wasn't
Speaker 5: even born yet when this came out, But I watched
Speaker 5: it for the first time when you invited me to
Speaker 5: do this podcast. Oh no, no, because brand new for
Speaker 5: me and I actually have a lot to say about it.
Speaker 5: I've played the trailer because I have a crisp fresh
Speaker 5: view of this movie.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 4: I like it, love it.
Speaker 2: I got two bras, you know. On that note, I
Speaker 2: really I just watched The Ghostory again their day. You know,
Speaker 2: I had never watched it before last week's review, so
Speaker 2: I'm glad to hear that you also watched this for
Speaker 2: the first time do to one of these GCD film reviews.
Speaker 2: So I'm trying to get we'll watch, but I actually
Speaker 2: made there was a theatrical trailer, and then they didn't
Speaker 2: like it, and then they made another one, and I say,
Speaker 2: both of them clip bathroom for thirty seconds to get
Speaker 2: out the bulk of the whole the plot line. But
Speaker 2: it's also interesting to see that Mike Myers was quite
Speaker 2: a diva apparently on this set, and I want to
Speaker 2: make note of that.
Speaker 4: And just when we go into it, here, get my
Speaker 4: coffee peasants.
Speaker 2: Oh it's it's bad. Some of those tales are bad.
Speaker 2: They're real bad.
Speaker 9: Charlie Mackenzie has his poetry.
Speaker 2: This poem sucks his family.
Speaker 8: Hey, look at the sigeon that boys, he's.
Speaker 9: Gonna give the war a complex.
Speaker 8: As a huge noga and most of all his fears.
Speaker 3: I broke up with those girls for very good reasons.
Speaker 9: Oh really, yes, what about Pam?
Speaker 3: She smelled like soup.
Speaker 10: Then one day he met.
Speaker 9: Harriet.
Speaker 2: I'll never not laugh when someone within hearing that he
Speaker 2: broke up with a lady because she smelled like soup.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just the most ridiculous reason.
Speaker 4: Exactly like beef vegetable soup.
Speaker 5: They were used to that joke in a did you
Speaker 5: guys you know too?
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh I've seen it, but it's been a long time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they used that. They said that somebody smelled like soup,
Speaker 5: and then they compared her to her house to lipt
Speaker 5: in Landing. So I think it's always funny when somebody
Speaker 5: says somebody smells like soup, because you think it'd be
Speaker 5: a comforting smell. I love soup. Canara walk in and
Speaker 5: I feel like I'm getting embraced in a warm soupy.
Speaker 2: Hug by a Nazi hug at that by the Nazis
Speaker 2: that owned the place.
Speaker 4: Right, No soup for you.
Speaker 5: I love soup.
Speaker 3: I have malitani please.
Speaker 2: That's that's the soup. Nazis, sir. He may he may
Speaker 2: have a job at Panera because they are owned by
Speaker 2: a literal Nazis. I'm not making that up. Big time Nazis. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they'd hire him and a harpy. They love Nazis over there.
Speaker 3: She was a Canadian Japanese girl and.
Speaker 2: We got a next girl from tailor deck.
Speaker 3: I like it not in a p h sort of way.
Speaker 3: You pardon the special tracking.
Speaker 2: I'm draggon.
Speaker 3: He had a fishy smell. I just I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And she's smell like face
Speaker 3: like Hamburger and state.
Speaker 4: I'm with Julia on that one is better. Now?
Speaker 2: Did she possibly work in San Francisco's Fisherman's Wharf?
Speaker 5: Have you heard of this case?
Speaker 2: Missus X?
Speaker 8: She murders her husband's on her hunting and then she
Speaker 8: changes her identity and marries again.
Speaker 3: I think I'm dating missus X.
Speaker 4: The Justice Department reports an alarming rise at the number
Speaker 4: of poisoning murders across the United States.
Speaker 8: It's a smart drink to improve your bring Howard.
Speaker 2: You like it, Charlie, thank you, no, thank you know
Speaker 2: we got we got the full scope of everything. We
Speaker 2: got beat Nick, a movie about beat Nick's venerating the
Speaker 2: Beatnik uh you know movement, which was the proto Hippie movement,
Speaker 2: which literally the figures in that movement brought us the
Speaker 2: Hippie movement out of Laurel Kane and through the Summer
Speaker 2: of Love and Monterey and right into the hate and
Speaker 2: Ashbury right, you know, with the grateful Dad Michael Ricana Shudo.
Speaker 2: You know, Charles Manson. I don't know why I thought
Speaker 2: about couldn't remember Charles Manson's name for sake, but the
Speaker 2: fact that we have all these parapolitical events to go
Speaker 2: right back to the same era that this movie is
Speaker 2: paying homage to, and it's a movie about a serial
Speaker 2: killer with some of old Cocaine Bob's friends in it.
Speaker 2: I'm a little concerned about some of these things when
Speaker 2: I look at these things later in life. But let's uh,
Speaker 2: let's start our roundtable here, if you don't mind, Kine,
Speaker 2: we we kick us off here. When did you first
Speaker 2: discover this film? What was your interest in? What's your
Speaker 2: biggest takeaway from your recent viewing?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 3: Well, JJ, it's all about the nookie, right. And So
Speaker 3: I had a girlfriend.
Speaker 6: She happened to be a Mormon from Park City. She
Speaker 6: was an Olympic downhill skier and she broke her femur
Speaker 6: and bro skiing correct and it ended her career.
Speaker 3: She was like a gold medal ice downhill and.
Speaker 2: Was broken femer. That's gotta be rough. Yeah, it's kinna
Speaker 2: injured career. Huh.
Speaker 3: Her name was Tevika. Really.
Speaker 6: I connected with her a few years back again, after
Speaker 6: twenty years but she watched a lot of movies, listen
Speaker 6: to a lot of music while she was you know,
Speaker 6: strapped up with the leg down, and so have you
Speaker 6: seen Because she was quoting so I married an axeburder
Speaker 6: all the time.
Speaker 3: I didn't get it. You have seen it. And so
Speaker 3: we finally sat down and watched it. And I don't
Speaker 3: know that I necessarily would have thought it was funny
Speaker 3: had she not been so into it and and uh,
Speaker 3: quoting everything from it all the time. But but once
Speaker 3: I heard everything in the movie, I'd heard her say
Speaker 3: it fifty times and it was it was just it
Speaker 3: blew my mind. And so that and.
Speaker 2: So your girl got cooked Tom and the Burbs the
Speaker 2: movie The Burbs. I love you, I said, So your
Speaker 2: ex girlfriend got you hooked Tom very much? Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice.
Speaker 2: Now the Urbs is a good one that we might
Speaker 2: have to do. That one in the futures would be
Speaker 2: a good.
Speaker 3: One for it for the show.
Speaker 5: I think I've done a breakdown on the Burbs before.
Speaker 5: And there's so much stuff and there you blow your
Speaker 5: packer right off.
Speaker 4: Don't blow it really good time.
Speaker 2: Don't do it, don't do it real world.
Speaker 4: But yeah, are you a pretty girl?
Speaker 2: Now it puts the lotion on its skin. The what
Speaker 2: what was your biggest takeaway Kane from rewatching this now?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 2: Is this the first time you've seen it in the
Speaker 2: last twenty two years?
Speaker 3: I watched it today.
Speaker 2: I disregard thirty thirty two years. My apology, sir.
Speaker 3: I'm only twenty eight.
Speaker 2: So just like remember that you stop the most busted
Speaker 2: twenty eight year olds. To do that, you must be
Speaker 2: twenty eight times too.
Speaker 6: Anyway, So yeah, I I also I like that area
Speaker 6: of San Francisco. Charmed is another uh production that comes
Speaker 6: from that exact area. I think they must the same house.
Speaker 6: It's the one with Lissa Milano and then series the
Speaker 6: other one that you like this the one that was
Speaker 6: in the cult, the redheaded girl. What's her name, Rose mcgow.
Speaker 2: That's very interesting.
Speaker 3: That's very Piper from Charmed. If anybody out there whose
Speaker 3: Piper is, that's my I guess she's my TV type.
Speaker 2: So so what was the connection was there's a connection
Speaker 2: between this film and Charmed it was filming.
Speaker 6: I think that that final scene was filmed at the
Speaker 6: house the charm gows. It's very iconic thing. I think
Speaker 6: that's like it's near hate Nashbury. But it's I forgot
Speaker 6: the name of the road.
Speaker 3: It's really conic.
Speaker 2: I looked it up here. I mean I didn't pick
Speaker 2: up on that. I'm glad you. I'm glad you mentioned that.
Speaker 2: That's that's awesome. You already you already blew my brain
Speaker 2: hole with a Zach gallifan Akis cameo in the in
Speaker 2: this film that I was.
Speaker 4: I have some stuff to say about that house later,
Speaker 4: so don't refer into it to the house you never left.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so look up some of that, and I know
Speaker 2: they show the full House home in this film, so
Speaker 2: I married an nex murder.
Speaker 4: There's a lot on the house. There's some interesting stuff
Speaker 4: on the house, which is that they filmed it in
Speaker 4: mm hmm. That the one, the one I'm thinking of,
Speaker 4: the white one, the white one for me. He's talking
Speaker 4: about the one of the dad I think.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, I'm just talking about you see the Full House.
Speaker 2: You know that scene you see in the beginning of
Speaker 2: Full House in that park, you see the facades of
Speaker 2: those games. You see that same scene in here, which
Speaker 2: is interesting because again that's another Bob Cocaine Evans factor
Speaker 2: right there, because that's who that's who produced full house,
Speaker 2: and that's who owns is the friend of Bob's and
Speaker 2: that's who owns the Silo Drive property where the Manson
Speaker 2: family murders occurred at the Tate Planski home, and that's
Speaker 2: in that home today lives Marilyn Manson, who was the
Speaker 2: longtime boyfriend of Rose McGowan from Your Charms Share their friend.
Speaker 4: And that was the house that the dad was in,
Speaker 4: right or no? Uh, there's multiple houses. The white House
Speaker 4: where they got married is the house I'm talking about
Speaker 4: for later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't think this is I don't
Speaker 2: think it's this house, So hun wh I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's in the show. I don't think
Speaker 2: it was usuals The site of it just shown in
Speaker 2: one of their scenes. I'll bring up a picture in
Speaker 2: a minute. But Ken, did you have any other anything else?
Speaker 3: Sir?
Speaker 2: Do you want to add to your u your affinity
Speaker 2: for the film, and or anything else you saw? Well,
Speaker 2: we'll get I actually I actually just door dash you.
Speaker 2: Some Hula Berger's are coming in a white Alantra twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: so up, don't worry. The driver's name's Brian. He's cool. Uh, Julia,
Speaker 2: how you doing man, I appreciate, uh, appreciate you joining
Speaker 2: us again. So what you I was a little surprised
Speaker 2: that you had just seen this, but I'm excited to
Speaker 2: hear about kind of your your initial I guess you
Speaker 2: don't really have a comparative analysis of when you first
Speaker 2: seen it to annow since you seens it one. But
Speaker 2: what was your biggest takeaway?
Speaker 5: Well, I have to say, my husband has watched this
Speaker 5: movie several times and he was surprised that I hadn't
Speaker 5: seen it either. Uh, you know, after watching it, I'm
Speaker 5: surprised I hadn't seen it before now because oh, thank you,
Speaker 5: it's so funny. It's really really funny. There were multiple
Speaker 5: scenes where I laughed out loud, literally laughed out loud.
Speaker 5: And I actually was surprised because, as a kind of
Speaker 5: like a two thousands kid, the only exposure I really
Speaker 5: ever got to Mike Myers was Austin Powers, and I
Speaker 5: thought he was like the ugliest person to ever walk
Speaker 5: the face of the earth, And in this movie he's
Speaker 5: so cute. I was like, when the fuck was Mike
Speaker 5: Myers like a handsome guy? You know, to even be
Speaker 5: able to play a main character like this, I was like,
Speaker 5: kind of taken back. It's hilarious.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. That's a really good point.
Speaker 5: I know, Mike Myers is hilarious. I thought that the
Speaker 5: jokes were on point and the soundtrack was banging. I
Speaker 5: wouldn't have changed anything about the movie. I thought it
Speaker 5: was perfect. Yeah, and I really enjoyed watching it. I
Speaker 5: think that they slipped some stuff in there for sure,
Speaker 5: on multiple different levels, which we'll get to as we're
Speaker 5: breaking down the movie. But they they definitely slipped a
Speaker 5: lot of stuff in there, and I'm surprised that the
Speaker 5: movie didn't do better because it's absolutely hilarious in my opinion.
Speaker 2: I agree, and I think it was a kind of
Speaker 2: before its time. It's kind of become a cult classical
Speaker 2: a little bit. It was very innovative, I think in
Speaker 2: regards to the way things were being shot comparatively speaking
Speaker 2: of the time, there was you know, and that was
Speaker 2: one of the things that became that issue with mister
Speaker 2: Mike Myers, the diva there was the director wanted to
Speaker 2: start doing all these he had every he would set
Speaker 2: up a track to move the camera and do all
Speaker 2: these motion shots with the camera instead of just sitting
Speaker 2: in one spot and Mike Myers would see the track
Speaker 2: and go right back to his trailer every day. So
Speaker 2: they had some some Mexican standoffs, or I guess Canadian standoffs.
Speaker 2: He's Canadian. They had some Canadian standoffs over these matters.
Speaker 2: But it is interesting good.
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, there are parts of the
Speaker 5: movie I don't know, like the jokes would be like
Speaker 5: something that would be funny now even.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think it still plays.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do too, I really do. It's like I said,
Speaker 5: I literally laughed out loud out a couple of parts,
Speaker 5: and yeah, I think it's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And this was kind of this was Mike Myers
Speaker 2: big film between Wayne's World and Awesome Powers, and this
Speaker 2: is really the last time he plays Mike Myers, right,
Speaker 2: I mean every time after this he's always in the
Speaker 2: characters doing you know, that weird love Guru whatever the
Speaker 2: fuck that was, you know, and so on the numerous
Speaker 2: Austin Powers.
Speaker 5: He's got characters, right, And like when I watched Austin Powers,
Speaker 5: I just you know, I loved the movies because I
Speaker 5: was a little kid when they weren't coming out, and
Speaker 5: I thought they were funny. But I never thought of
Speaker 5: him as like a regular guy that could like look
Speaker 5: normal and just like tell funny joke. So I always
Speaker 5: looked at him as like fat Bastard's Like.
Speaker 2: There you go. I'm glad you pointed that out, because
Speaker 2: so I made that same just on that same note,
Speaker 2: I kind of made note of that same thing when
Speaker 2: I rewatched in here, you know, and it reminds me
Speaker 2: of Peter Sellers back to the Manson family and people
Speaker 2: associated with that Ciellow Drive residence that is currently owned
Speaker 2: by the executive producer Full House Jeff Franklin and has
Speaker 2: been for thirty thirty one years, and Marilyn Manson was
Speaker 2: residing you back in ninety three. Marilyn Manson's residing it today.
Speaker 2: You tell me what goes on there. I have no idea,
Speaker 2: but this is a full house home that I was
Speaker 2: just describing for so.
Speaker 4: I've got the the history on its super interesting.
Speaker 2: This home. This one. Yeah, oh shit, okay. I didn't
Speaker 2: really get too much in the properties I was. I
Speaker 2: got lost, to be quite honest with you, I lost.
Speaker 2: I got lost in these characters again. So when like
Speaker 2: you were saying, there, you know, Peter Seller's the panther.
Speaker 2: You know, he quit playing any character, asked Peter Sellers,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden he just had a
Speaker 2: whole careers this pink panther thing, much like Mike Myers
Speaker 2: with his onslaught of characters after this film. So this
Speaker 2: seemed like a very you know, transitional point for him
Speaker 2: in that regard. And you know, again Peter Sellers was
Speaker 2: into some weird sexual stuff there in Silla Drive in
Speaker 2: the Manson family business. I don't know what in there,
Speaker 2: but there's lots of stories and uh, he much like
Speaker 2: Elvis would hire security in the aftermath.
Speaker 5: Well, I will say one of my biggest takeaways that
Speaker 5: I noticed from this movie is this movie may not
Speaker 5: have done very well, but it reminded me a lot
Speaker 5: of the plot for Adam's Family Values, and that movie
Speaker 5: did great eight. So it just surprises me because so
Speaker 5: I married an Ax Murder is way funnier actually than
Speaker 5: adams Family Values. But it has like the same plot
Speaker 5: of like the Black Widow weird thing you mean.
Speaker 2: To tell you mean to tell me that that mc
Speaker 2: hammer doing an Adams family theme song rap and was
Speaker 2: not successful.
Speaker 5: I mean, more people know about Adam's family values than
Speaker 5: so I married an ax murderer, which surprises the dog
Speaker 5: shit out of me because this movie is actually funny.
Speaker 5: Adam's Family Values is I you know, it's just I.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I agree with you. And it came out
Speaker 2: roughly the same time that I was just double checking
Speaker 2: adams Family Values was November of ninety three versus July.
Speaker 5: Oh and see they have like really similar plots. That's interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, they sound like they were
Speaker 2: competing projects, right, mm hmm. So there's seven ten. That's
Speaker 2: not seven, that's a seven ten Ashbury.
Speaker 3: Yeah, dude with that one, Thank you dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's interesting you say that because I got
Speaker 2: my story's gonna focus around the grateful dead here at
Speaker 2: the moment. But before we do that, the Jeff something
Speaker 2: to say came for me. Let how to introduce what
Speaker 2: her interests and takeaway was.
Speaker 6: Sure, Julia, the when you when you think about it,
Speaker 6: all of those people from Saturday Night Live were like
Speaker 6: us over there, the misfits that they called themselves, the
Speaker 6: not ready for prime time players, and they all most
Speaker 6: of them came from s CTV, which was a small
Speaker 6: local channel in Chicago, and they it was like it
Speaker 6: was more like an acting school kind of you know,
Speaker 6: John Candy, uh, and you have a lot of Canadians
Speaker 6: that came out of there, and so they were they
Speaker 6: were the regular guy. Look, you know from Easy Money.
Speaker 6: You know we'll see bowling shirt Brown Maleman, Oxfords and
Speaker 6: and that. They're all the most unlikely characters. Chevy Chase
Speaker 6: probably one of the more handsome of the bunch. But
Speaker 6: then you have Dan ackroy did plenty of movies, you know,
Speaker 6: and John Candy. Obviously, somebody said, I just I thought
Speaker 6: i'd make that point.
Speaker 2: Dann Ackroyd, is this Tuesday's Tuesday Weld's friend who bought
Speaker 2: processed Church, You and Mama Cassa's house.
Speaker 3: Dude, come on, jj himminy.
Speaker 5: We found that out on the ghost Story episode and
Speaker 5: about started my theory.
Speaker 2: And I was so upset, little brain hole, because here's
Speaker 2: the thing he obviously frames. He uses the imagine childbook
Speaker 2: I don't want that. Yeah, that's not good.
Speaker 3: I started ovulating.
Speaker 2: These are the magical child bookstores. His basis for raise
Speaker 2: the cult bookshop on the Ghostbusters films, which is the
Speaker 2: same books church related bookstores.
Speaker 5: I want I want to get to Heidi. I just
Speaker 5: wanted to say this really really quick. Bill Murray looks
Speaker 5: an act like he's probably an asshole in real life.
Speaker 5: Dan Ackroyd has always been some kind of a sacred
Speaker 5: cow to me, where I've always thought he's such a
Speaker 5: stand up guy, no nonsense guy. He's so cool. He's
Speaker 5: into all this esoteric paranormal stuff. I love the Ghostbusters.
Speaker 5: He's so funny. To find out that he could have
Speaker 5: like sinister links to stuff, or that he's really a
Speaker 5: douchebag in real life. I mean, I almost felt like
Speaker 5: I needed to like go on a fasting journey with
Speaker 5: my heart and just like reconfigure life. I've just I've
Speaker 5: always loved him so much.
Speaker 2: I hear you. I hear you.
Speaker 5: Somebody said they ran into dan ackroid while he was
Speaker 5: drunk and he was an asshole.
Speaker 2: I had, I had. I had a very similar experience
Speaker 2: when I discovered The Grateful Dead was a CIA Front operations,
Speaker 2: because I was and was. We'll get to it after Heidi.
Speaker 2: One of my biggest interests in this film was at
Speaker 2: the very same time this film came out, I had
Speaker 2: just gotten into the Dead. So in the Heiden, what
Speaker 2: what did you what do you?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 2: Did you get interested in this from about back in
Speaker 2: July of ninety three? And what did you take away
Speaker 2: recently when when seeing in a Game.
Speaker 4: I was a huge fan of Mike Myers back then,
Speaker 4: so I literally was so excited to see this movie
Speaker 4: back in the day with my ex husband. You that
Speaker 4: that part's not a great memory, but right we went
Speaker 4: and saw that.
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound like that doesn't sound like a good
Speaker 2: A good takeaway. That's when the least at the theater.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that part wasn't good. But I will say
Speaker 4: this is a movie that me and my kids have
Speaker 4: watched so much that we literally quote it all the time.
Speaker 4: My one daughter's boyfriend, he doesn't do movies, and he's
Speaker 4: always like, what the hell are you people talking about?
Speaker 5: Not? I know, I know we did the movie quotes
Speaker 5: see an NPC person.
Speaker 4: He doesn't have an internal he does not have an
Speaker 4: internal monologue.
Speaker 5: Fuck away from him. He's a cyber.
Speaker 4: He's sweet, you know, but he doesn't have the internal monologue.
Speaker 4: For sure. He thinks more crazy because we do.
Speaker 5: He's like, what, oh, yeah, weird crazy? Okay?
Speaker 4: I no, sad. I was like, what, you don't really?
Speaker 4: I had never met somebody that really didn't have it.
Speaker 2: But I love that. I love movies. I love I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, there's probably not a purge that goes by
Speaker 2: where Cane and I aren't, you know, Shindler's lists to
Speaker 2: each other or some other movie references. So, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure you all see me because you all join me
Speaker 2: for film reviews, see me how much I love film
Speaker 2: by you know, seeing how much knowledge I have on
Speaker 2: the subject, I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love them. I just now watching it. It's different.
Speaker 4: It's so different when you see all the things they
Speaker 4: slip in and like all of the new stuff, You're like, wow,
Speaker 4: you know how Like Julia was saying, she like heard
Speaker 4: he was an asshole and that her like literally, and
Speaker 4: you do like if you meet if you hear something
Speaker 4: or you meet somebody and they disappoint you. Largely, That's
Speaker 4: why they say don't meet your heroes, right, because you're
Speaker 4: like right, yeah. So but nowadays, yeah, I have a
Speaker 4: lot to say on it. I think it's very interesting
Speaker 4: on some of the things that were put out even
Speaker 4: back then with conspiracy theories and that goes straight to
Speaker 4: the pantavruts. I love it.
Speaker 2: But I'm glad you said that. So that's you said.
Speaker 2: You said you quote a lot of things and you uh,
Speaker 2: you know, the very memorable scenes and stuff. So it
Speaker 2: sounds like your first interest was it was along these lines.
Speaker 2: Was it along these lines of the conspiracy theories? Maybe
Speaker 2: not when you first again, was that a big takeaway
Speaker 2: for you?
Speaker 4: For me, it was just all funny. Like back then,
Speaker 4: you have to remember I wasn't the same person, so
Speaker 4: back then I didn't.
Speaker 3: Think anything of it.
Speaker 4: But now, back then I was just like, that was
Speaker 4: so great, and I couldn't believe that nobody liked it.
Speaker 4: I was like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 5: I'm with you. I can't believe nobody liked this. It's
Speaker 5: so funny, I.
Speaker 4: Thought, right, yeah, they really shot it down, and it
Speaker 4: is low key funny unless it's like certain parts like
Speaker 4: with the dad and stuff. He's actual funny. But you know,
Speaker 4: the little things always got me. I mean I always
Speaker 4: just thought it was the little things, not you know,
Speaker 4: had go get my pants, like that's hilarious. But there's
Speaker 4: other things that are really funny.
Speaker 5: That when they go tour the prison, oh my god,
Speaker 5: poor phililarious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you are describe me some of my favorite comedy
Speaker 2: scenes in ninety cinema right now and on that not
Speaker 2: I can't And well we you mentioned the prison scene
Speaker 2: would do us no justice unless we.
Speaker 3: Played Phil clows it up.
Speaker 2: Yes, there, close it up, clows it up.
Speaker 10: Now, this is something the other tour guys won't tell you.
Speaker 10: In this particular cell block machine Gun, Kelly had what
Speaker 10: we call in the prison system a bitch, and one night,
Speaker 10: in a jealous rage, Kelly took a makeshift knife for
Speaker 10: ship and cut out the bitch's eyes.
Speaker 3: He knew another thing my heard on.
Speaker 10: And as if this wasn't enough retribution for Kelly, the
Speaker 10: next day he and four other inmates took turns pissing
Speaker 10: into the bitches ocular cavities.
Speaker 2: This way to the cap, this way to the cafeteria.
Speaker 3: You can't beat that part of love Hartman Man, he
Speaker 3: was the best.
Speaker 5: He slayd he was slaid.
Speaker 4: He was slaid.
Speaker 5: But he was another another Laurel Canyon tie in. By
Speaker 5: the way, Phil Harton.
Speaker 2: You know, he was classic at that dead pando ediately
Speaker 2: switching into comedy mode right like, I'm a big fan
Speaker 2: of dead Pan, he you know, and he killed it
Speaker 2: there when he's like telling about president you know, the
Speaker 2: ocular you know, sockets of the you know, the bitch,
Speaker 2: and then just one of the cafeteria folks, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I mean, cavities. I did want to say
Speaker 5: two things I saw in the comments just now. Somebody
Speaker 5: mentioned Mike Myers being Shrek loved Shrek. Forgot about that.
Speaker 5: And then somebody said strange stuff regarding Phil Hartman's murder.
Speaker 5: I covered that actually in my Laurel Canyons series because
Speaker 5: they say that his wife did it. But there's no
Speaker 5: fucking way there. It's like all messed up, covered up,
Speaker 5: weird stuff. And yeah, there is a lot of strange
Speaker 5: stuff regarding Phil Hartman's murder.
Speaker 2: For sure, for sure. So Heidi, did you you know,
Speaker 2: did you did you get super annoyed out by you didn't?
Speaker 2: So you weren't into conspiracy theories at all in this
Speaker 2: regard when you when you Mormon, I.
Speaker 4: Was adm Yeah, I was true blue Mormon back then.
Speaker 4: I wasn't probably supposed to see that movie.
Speaker 2: I was too, but like you know, I had I
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe I'm just maybe I always been a
Speaker 2: bit annoyed. But I blame the Mormons for it because
Speaker 2: they were, you know, the world's a conspiracy type of deal. Right,
Speaker 2: the world's the devil, right, well, at least of the world,
Speaker 2: but not in the world.
Speaker 4: Right right, Yeah, they and and they know that they're
Speaker 4: the ones that only are important, you know, very elitism.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, but just from a philosophical understanding of what
Speaker 2: how I was perceiving their their teachings at that age
Speaker 2: when I was thirteen getting the priesthoods, right, so that's
Speaker 2: my first priesthood and and and so I get my
Speaker 2: first priests the same year. I'm I'm kind of my
Speaker 2: my mind is going from bigfoots and aliens and Lock
Speaker 2: not Lock neest Monster, but Champ the monster in Lake
Speaker 2: Champlain where I grew up in fromont there every summer
Speaker 2: I literally.
Speaker 4: Would have said it was bullshit. I was so I
Speaker 4: was the Alex p. Keaton of my family.
Speaker 2: Because I was bullshit of the conspiracies for bullshit in
Speaker 2: the film that he was describing. Oh, I was told.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's interesting, I gotta know more about this.
Speaker 4: Yep, Nope, I was like, the how stupid he is?
Speaker 2: Like yeah, so I was already into weird shit, you know,
Speaker 2: It's just like and then this was a whole new
Speaker 2: list of weird shit that he named off for me
Speaker 2: in this film, and if we without any further ado again,
Speaker 2: this is my favorite scene from the nineteen nineties for
Speaker 2: many reasons, the least of which of my conspiracy theory
Speaker 2: activities around it, but then also just the hilarity that
Speaker 2: ensues here.
Speaker 11: He's getting to Lindon Runnish again.
Speaker 8: Well, it's a well known fact, Sonny jump. There's a
Speaker 8: secret to say it if the five wealthiest people in
Speaker 8: the world, known as the pantat who run everything in
Speaker 8: the world, including the newspapers, and meet triannually as a
Speaker 8: secret country mansion in Colorado, not odds the meadows.
Speaker 9: So who's in this Pantherid, the Queen.
Speaker 8: The Vatican, the gettys Child. I'm Colonel Saunders. Before he
Speaker 8: went TETs up. I hated the colonel with his wee
Speaker 8: bad eyes. I'm that smug look on his face.
Speaker 3: Oh you're gonna.
Speaker 8: Bay my chicken, and oh that How can you hate
Speaker 8: the kernel because he puts an addictive chem colors chicken
Speaker 8: that makes you cleave it fortnitely, smarters.
Speaker 2: Interesting, it means great. That is a great scene.
Speaker 5: I actually have found your conspiracy stuff.
Speaker 4: I had on that fantaver after actually, okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hold it. I just want to play the scene.
Speaker 2: Perty we'll watch it again. Trust me, that's my favorite scene. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: Let's hold that. Unpack that scene here when we'll get
Speaker 2: to the details of it. But you know that is
Speaker 2: if I may add, my biggest takeaway is from that
Speaker 2: scene when we when we watching it, I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, there's a process factor to this because
Speaker 2: again that that Linden the roofe rubbish nonsense as she says, right,
Speaker 2: So this is again Linden and the Roosh was part
Speaker 2: of Iran conc were friends with all over North and
Speaker 2: he starts in whistle blowing everybody, including the processed church.
Speaker 2: And then the processed church is attorney. John Markham gets
Speaker 2: hired by the US Attorney's office by Tuesday Weld's cousin
Speaker 2: Bill Weld, and then they prosecute Lyndon the roosh.
Speaker 5: So crazy how that ties back. I didn't even catch that.
Speaker 2: Do you know where John Markham lived at this time?
Speaker 2: Where in the nineties. In nineteen ninety two when this
Speaker 2: film was made, John Markham lived in San Francisco.
Speaker 5: Damn JJ coming in with the bar.
Speaker 2: That was my biggest take away there.
Speaker 7: Dam yeah.
Speaker 2: But when this movie first came out, like I said,
Speaker 2: I was just getting into weird shit. Oh I'm sorry, Hi,
Speaker 2: did you have any more? Did you have any more
Speaker 2: comments on your biggest takeaway there from your Oh no, no, no, just.
Speaker 4: On the the regular stuff later. No, No, I'm good.
Speaker 2: Sounds like you got some real barn burners on these
Speaker 2: home So I'm glad, yell look at that, because I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't get to my analysis anywhere on the properties there,
Speaker 2: but I do look forward to it. So when I
Speaker 2: was thirteen when that movie came out, you know, I
Speaker 2: was just like I said, I had just gotten a
Speaker 2: priesthood in the Mormon business, and was, you know, getting
Speaker 2: interested in different ideas then longer monsters and aliens and stuff.
Speaker 2: But you know, these conspiratorial topics I found out about
Speaker 2: from this film, right, and obviously not processed church, that's
Speaker 2: more recent stuff, but you know the idea of this
Speaker 2: Illuminati or Pentavern type of deal. But and then San
Speaker 2: Francisco was quickly becoming my favorite thing in life because
Speaker 2: I just discovered The Grateful Dead the year prior, the
Speaker 2: summer prior, and I had this giant poster covering an
Speaker 2: entire wall of my bedroom. I mean he was like
Speaker 2: seven foot by like five feet or some nonsense. And
Speaker 2: you know, so that movie came out, I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, this is I think, I really think it
Speaker 2: is this one moment in my life where I literally
Speaker 2: fell in love with the city of San Francisco because
Speaker 2: I've spent a lot of time in that city. Two
Speaker 2: of my brothers, my dudes from the Air Force, my
Speaker 2: fellow garbage can dudes. They live out just north and
Speaker 2: south there. So we we usually convene on San Francisco
Speaker 2: every year for many years and uh till you know,
Speaker 2: for our garbage can do invasions and whatnot. But I
Speaker 2: you know, between The Grateful Dead and you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of other factors this this film and other things.
Speaker 2: I've had a great interest there in the city of
Speaker 2: San Francisco, and I've spent a lot of time there.
Speaker 2: Never lived there, but spent a lot of time there.
Speaker 2: So this, this film has always had a special place
Speaker 2: for me as a result of those kind of factors.
Speaker 2: Because again that came out right at the same time
Speaker 2: I just really discovered San Francisco. So and it's a
Speaker 2: I would call this the best San Francisco film. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go on a lem and say that that. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a number of good ones. You know. Zodiac was
Speaker 2: a good one, right, you know, I think and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe even American Graffiti could be considered in
Speaker 2: that in that department.
Speaker 5: But American Graffiti, holy shit, dude, that's one of my
Speaker 5: all time favorite movies in my life. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also film yeah, well.
Speaker 5: It's ars Mackenzie Phillips. Hello, Mama's in the place.
Speaker 2: Thirteen? Wasn't she thirteen?
Speaker 5: She was thirty and we all know about her and
Speaker 5: her pasted with her little incestuous stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh holy shit, you just you just blew up my
Speaker 2: brain hole because I took a note of something earlier
Speaker 2: on the same topic I totally forgot about, and I
Speaker 2: don't know if it exists anymore, but I pulled up
Speaker 2: something connecting this film George Hodell and something else, and
Speaker 2: you just mentioned Mackenzie. Well, it was actually written by
Speaker 2: Steve Hodell. Whatever this blog post was his son. So
Speaker 2: Steve Hodell's sister would later take in Mackenzie Phillips after
Speaker 2: she's been getting deal by her dad, right because she
Speaker 2: and because Steve Hodell's sister, daughter of George Hodell, the
Speaker 2: alled to Black Dolli murdered by his own son, the
Speaker 2: former San Francisco police detective. Well, you know, so there's
Speaker 2: your Mackenzie Phillips Black Dollia connection. Rent, there.
Speaker 5: Wasn't Black Dahia murdered in and around the San Francisco area.
Speaker 2: Or we would have been Los Angeles man, Los.
Speaker 5: Angeles, I believe George ho Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Well, here's a Bob Cocaine Evans connection. I believe George
Speaker 2: Hodell was living in the infamous Frank Lloyd right Mayan
Speaker 2: home at the time, at home occupied by Bob Cocaine Evans.
Speaker 5: Dude, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Well, there was a direct connection to Bob's crew and
Speaker 2: that crew, So John John Houston, his protege was Jack Nicholson.
Speaker 2: That was Bob, Bob's bff. You may recognize him here
Speaker 2: in this picture as the muppet on the left, the
Speaker 2: far left muppet. It'd be Jack Nicholson. You know, that
Speaker 2: was her crew muppet, you know, the green muppet. That's
Speaker 2: Jack Nicholson next to Bob Cocaine Evans, none other than
Speaker 2: Charles Manson. But yeah, that's an interesting connection though. You
Speaker 2: see these Mackenzie Phillips connections right with the American graffiti,
Speaker 2: she's going into the same again. It's a it's a
Speaker 2: we're look, we're piecing things together from the outside looking in,
Speaker 2: and we're just we're describing things somewhat apparently in doing
Speaker 2: so with these parapolitical matters, and it's a lot more.
Speaker 2: I think that what we're discovering over time and more
Speaker 2: information and analyzing these things, Julia, is that in Heidi
Speaker 2: both we often discuss these parapolitical matters, that it's becoming
Speaker 2: a smaller, smaller circle of folks, right, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: it's not a huge network, that.
Speaker 5: Sir, is the truest statement of the evening, especially like
Speaker 5: when you really like with the stuff you've been doing
Speaker 5: with the cocaine Bob, and then when we talked about
Speaker 5: OJ when we talked about I mean, it's like they
Speaker 5: keep showing up, these assholes like they're punching a time
Speaker 5: clock or something. It's like, Okay, let me check into
Speaker 5: this fucking weird thing that I shouldn't have anything to
Speaker 5: do with.
Speaker 2: I appreciate with your heads out there, Julia, because you
Speaker 2: just gave me a nice plug for next Wednesday's Operations
Speaker 2: GCD Live and Esoteric and Occult film review of the
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven cinematic masterpiece Lethal Weapon, which the plotline
Speaker 2: of that film describes Bill Colby's wet dreams come home.
Speaker 2: So Bill Colby, the CIA director, invents Operation Gladio. He
Speaker 2: invents the Phoenix program, the program to kill assassins. He
Speaker 2: invents the Air American drug Trafficking all part of the
Speaker 2: Material Assistance Command of Vietnam, all brought to you by
Speaker 2: Bill Colby. And Bill Colby's son just happened to be
Speaker 2: the one of the primary witnesses for the State of
Speaker 2: California against the case of murder of Nicole Brown Simpson
Speaker 2: and Ron Goldman in the case against Warrenthal James Simpson.
Speaker 2: So why is Carl Colby one of the primary witnesses
Speaker 2: and why is he living next door to a drug
Speaker 2: trafficking operation when the Cole Brown, Simpson and a manager
Speaker 2: of the mafia Italian restaurants that owned Italian restaurants that
Speaker 2: Goldman worked at. Why is Carl Colby? Well, it's always
Speaker 2: goes back to Colby here, So that's going to be
Speaker 2: next week, folks. But I appreciate the the inadvertanty and
Speaker 2: update for.
Speaker 5: Me any time.
Speaker 2: So are you gonna play?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I was actually for some someone.
Speaker 2: Does this one? Go out to the one you love?
Speaker 3: It's less to me. Don't touch a gray, nobody.
Speaker 2: I love touch of Gray. That was the uh grateful dad.
Speaker 2: It's only number one or not only top ten hits.
Speaker 3: Strangely enough, well, I think, uh, Casey Jones charted also,
Speaker 3: but I don't. It didn't get number one for sure.
Speaker 3: Van Halen also never had a number one until eighty four.
Speaker 2: You stop it, sir. Casey Jones did never made a chart.
Speaker 3: Us have been somewhere on the billboard.
Speaker 2: As far as classic well, I mean, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 2: I enjoy them. I enjoy that.
Speaker 6: But I wanted to add one more film to the
Speaker 6: mix as far as San Francisco goes. And there's probably
Speaker 6: a couple in his repertoire, but misdoubt Fire obviously would
Speaker 6: be there.
Speaker 2: You go, you're gonna say, you're gonna say that.
Speaker 3: And I also know that you have some beef on
Speaker 3: that one too well.
Speaker 5: I mentioned it in our previous episode when we covered
Speaker 5: the Ghost Story movie because the main character that Robin
Speaker 5: William portrays is based on a real life person who
Speaker 5: is molesting babies at the mc martin preschool.
Speaker 3: So exact, exact replica, r.
Speaker 5: Exact replica, down to down to the earrings, necklace, everything
Speaker 5: about the person is so I mean, it's like they
Speaker 5: it's like a hilarious joke to them. Missus doubtfire is
Speaker 5: uh baby rapist from mc martin in the San Francisco area.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she looks. I know right, it's isn't it crazy?
Speaker 2: How identical that is when you when you make that
Speaker 2: comparisonals get out of town. Really, that's that's spot on.
Speaker 5: Have you seen the side by side on that JJ.
Speaker 2: I have, I'll pull it up in a second. Do
Speaker 2: you know who did not prosecute that case? That would
Speaker 2: be Ira Reiner, Charles Manson's friend personal friends.
Speaker 5: Also somehow connected with OJ.
Speaker 2: Uh he's he brought he was part of the propaganda
Speaker 2: campaign on the media. Yeah, when when we first started
Speaker 2: seeing all that propaganda campaign, what didn't mean to do that?
Speaker 2: We first started seeing all that propaganda campaign of you know,
Speaker 2: the OJ did it like we're seeing with Brian Coberger
Speaker 2: right now. Yeah, Ira Reiner was one of those first
Speaker 2: media pundits out there. Yeah, he just got out of
Speaker 2: the DA's office. Uh, here we go. Well, look bring
Speaker 2: up that quick comparison there. Let's here's that George Hodel
Speaker 2: Herb Kane Zodiac in the San Francisco Chronicle connection. So
Speaker 2: we see the San Francisco Chronicle comes up here in
Speaker 2: this film. That is the big part of that zodiac tale,
Speaker 2: right in Herb Kane. Herb Kane, the editor who's part
Speaker 2: of that whole zodiac situation, right the letters and the
Speaker 2: whole situation back there in sixty nine that was going
Speaker 2: on at the same time as the Manson family murders
Speaker 2: down Los Angeles. This is San Francisco simultaneously speaking. But
Speaker 2: Herb Kane's the guy who invinced the word beatnick Ooh well.
Speaker 5: And you know, my theory on the Zodiac is that
Speaker 5: it was potentially multiple assailants, but one of them had
Speaker 5: to be Michaelchino.
Speaker 2: We can get onto that conversation later, ma'am. There definitely
Speaker 2: is a team of assailants. I went over one of
Speaker 2: those assailants, the man in the Hood at Lake Berriessa
Speaker 2: this past Sundays on my Operation GCD Sundays, the case
Speaker 2: of Edward Wayne Edwards, because the man on September twenty seventh,
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty nine, wearing what appears to be an alistair
Speaker 2: curley like magical hood doing filming what appears to be
Speaker 2: a snuff film on the shores of Lake Barriesa in
Speaker 2: the murder of one young woman and the attempted murder
Speaker 2: of a man. That man would go on to describing
Speaker 2: great detail in the report filed by the Napa County
Speaker 2: Sheriff's Office, because folks want to shitcoat this today filed
Speaker 2: by the Napa County Sheriff's Office, and the statements made
Speaker 2: by the man of the hood all happened to everyone
Speaker 2: Edward's life, just they happened in nineteen fifty nine, not
Speaker 2: in nineteen sixty nine. He escaped the Deer Lodge prison
Speaker 2: in Montana. That's a very specific thing to say he
Speaker 2: killed a guard. There was two guards killed when when
Speaker 2: Edwards escaped that prison in nineteen fifty nine and stole
Speaker 2: a card and headed to Mexico. That was the next
Speaker 2: two statements by the man on the hood. He was
Speaker 2: stole a car and was headed to Mexico. So it's
Speaker 2: definitely a team and every when Edwards I assure you
Speaker 2: was on that team. He's the most diabolical serial killer
Speaker 2: in American history and one most folks probably never heard of.
Speaker 5: Well, that's a great I mean, that's a great point.
Speaker 5: I do think one of them was Michael Lochino, at
Speaker 5: least for the taxi cab driver.
Speaker 2: There's a strong argument for a lot of these things. Man.
Speaker 2: I agree, and I We're happy to have these conversations
Speaker 2: with you on a future show. But you're spot on
Speaker 2: with the team of Zodiacs for sure. And if I
Speaker 2: have two more quick notes on that. The if you've
Speaker 2: noticed one quick note, I'm sorry if you notice one
Speaker 2: of the things that the Zodiac wrote his letters that
Speaker 2: he got his rocks off killing killing folks and Edward
Speaker 2: when Edwards to date, in any cold cases, his DNA
Speaker 2: has never come up. The only time is DNA came
Speaker 2: up was in two thousand and nine. His daughter was
Speaker 2: watching a television program on investigat Investigation Discovery. I believe
Speaker 2: it was cold case murder that occurred in Wisconsin back
Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty, twenty nine years prior, and she says
Speaker 2: she saw it she immediately recognized that was a town
Speaker 2: that she lived in at the time that her father
Speaker 2: took her to that exact field where the murder occurred,
Speaker 2: and that they fled town in the days after that,
Speaker 2: she calls those law enforcement authorities up there, she gives
Speaker 2: her DNA. It comes as a match to a seaman
Speaker 2: staying left on a pair of jeans and the female
Speaker 2: victim that apparently at Edwards Edward. When Edwards he got
Speaker 2: his rocks off killing folks, just like the Zodiac said,
Speaker 2: and he wasn't. There was no rape, it was he
Speaker 2: never raped anything. These are his crimes were never sex.
Speaker 2: He never raped anybody. They were almost always lover's lanes,
Speaker 2: almost always, just like the Zodiac.
Speaker 4: Mhm.
Speaker 2: So a lot to be said with ed I think
Speaker 2: he's more of a general and this whole outfit of
Speaker 2: a handed death cult type situation, you know, not getting
Speaker 2: too far off top because we are talking about serial
Speaker 2: killers tonight and San Francisco, But the tales of Henry
Speaker 2: Lee Lucas and Otis Tool, I would argue, are really
Speaker 2: the machinations of a network that every when Edwards ran
Speaker 2: and every time he was in prison, the murder rate
Speaker 2: went down in America.
Speaker 5: So just saying that's so interesting.
Speaker 2: And he knew Charles Manson, and he knew otis tool
Speaker 2: and he he knew a lot of He knew a
Speaker 2: lot of folks.
Speaker 5: I think you're right. I was just going to say, well,
Speaker 5: I think a lot of them knew each other. I
Speaker 5: think they were. There was like some kind of weird
Speaker 5: Sandman convention every year where they all fucking met up
Speaker 5: in compared notes and shit.
Speaker 2: But you ain't kidding. You ain't kidden, because in two
Speaker 2: thousand and three they had a Zodiac conference at San
Speaker 2: Francisco where the guy that held it thought the Zodiac
Speaker 2: killer would show up. There's guy peered in those photographs
Speaker 2: at that conference. It looks identical to ever Win Edwards,
Speaker 2: and he's sitting next to Charles Manson's friend Larry Milton.
Speaker 5: So well, they always have these conferences, right, It's like
Speaker 5: they have the Ted Bundy conference and then had they
Speaker 5: love to do that stuff.
Speaker 2: But take note of what we're discussing here, right, San
Speaker 2: Francisco serial killers, right, and the Zodiac's killing in sixty
Speaker 2: nine at the same time the Mansons killing in Los
Speaker 2: Angeles is sixty nine And ed knew Charles. They know
Speaker 2: these verses fifty two, Him and Manson were Friendsance fifty
Speaker 2: two and they were on a prison on a mound
Speaker 2: in Ohio at Chilikalthy Federal Reformatory, and he knew so
Speaker 2: obviously it seems like he may have known Larry Melton.
Speaker 2: So Larry Meltin is celebrating seemingly with the portion of
Speaker 2: the Zodiac Killer guys. He's part of the Manson team
Speaker 2: and they're all celebrating a Zodiac conference in this photograph
Speaker 2: in two thousand and three. It's kind of sick if
Speaker 2: you look at it that way, but that's the way
Speaker 2: I look at it. M So when we talk about
Speaker 2: serial killers and they all know each other, you know,
Speaker 2: I think that should be considered because it is this
Speaker 2: you were talking. We were talking Laurel Canyon, and I
Speaker 2: know Kane's a big musician, so he's all about some
Speaker 2: of this Laurel Canyon stuff. We've discussed that as well
Speaker 2: on his show, right, King, the Laurel Canyon, the whole
Speaker 2: fake music scene that the military kind of syop scene.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't go with fake. I would go with a
Speaker 6: sort of manufactured by by providence. Those military leaders were
Speaker 6: based out of those operations. The operations were based out
Speaker 6: of that area, their kids grew up there. They it
Speaker 6: was kind of a time when there was a lot
Speaker 6: of open doorness for they were I would more say
Speaker 6: along the lines of they were kind of the bastard child.
Speaker 6: So they were the outcasts of their family and they actually,
Speaker 6: you know, all out together and created great music that
Speaker 6: can't be denied. And it found more great music. And
Speaker 6: so I think say that Hendrix and the Eagles made
Speaker 6: great music.
Speaker 2: I would phil spectrum the wall sounded.
Speaker 5: I'm saying that they weren't just like cool guys that
Speaker 5: got together.
Speaker 3: Sound had nothing to do.
Speaker 2: With the Eagles.
Speaker 3: They never played on an Eagles record. They maybe the
Speaker 3: Beach Boys and the Monkeys.
Speaker 2: But when you.
Speaker 3: And the Doors, they made their own music. Rayman Eric
Speaker 3: was a brilliant writer and keyboard there.
Speaker 2: I won't dispute on the Doors, but.
Speaker 3: Wounded voices like Linda Ronstad and.
Speaker 5: They're all c I A.
Speaker 3: But look at ok okay, here's a good example. Hold on,
Speaker 3: let me just wait, wait, wait one second. Janis Joplin
Speaker 3: was completely disassociated with her family in Texas.
Speaker 5: Right, so she says, I don't believe any of that stuff. Though, Yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't believe anything that they've said about any of that.
Speaker 5: They lie constantly, and we're just supposed to believe whatever
Speaker 5: bullshit story that, oh Jim Morrison said his dad was
Speaker 5: dead and any communed with Native American spirits like fucking way.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I don't believe any.
Speaker 2: Of if I if I if I made it on
Speaker 2: your analysis of how these folks started their in Laurel Kenyon,
Speaker 2: because it is relevant to Tonight's tale. That's that is
Speaker 2: the reason why I brought it up. It may seem
Speaker 2: like a tangent, but Tonight's tale again is the Beatniks.
Speaker 2: And again herb came from the the Chronicle there in
Speaker 2: San Francisco. He coins the term beatnik, and the Beatniks
Speaker 2: are these proto hippie movement that this move now Laurel
Speaker 2: Kenyon moves up to Monterey for the music festival. It's
Speaker 2: birthed out Laurel ken In. All these bands, so these
Speaker 2: early bands came. I would again, I would dispute that
Speaker 2: the birds. Again, I know you're saying, you're pointing out
Speaker 2: some some musically talented folks like Raymondserican Gang. I'm you know,
Speaker 2: it's fine, But what I'm getting at is the movement
Speaker 2: started in a manner that was manufactured, where all these
Speaker 2: people were shipped into that location. They're all that their
Speaker 2: parents weren't stationed out there, right like Gail Slotman, Frank
Speaker 2: Zappa's wife. Again, I know the movement became something different,
Speaker 2: And I honestly don't know the Eagles publishing book other
Speaker 2: than that they have Anton Levey apparently in one of
Speaker 2: their album covers in Hotel, California, but they they all
Speaker 2: move out there. Phil Spector's Wall of Sound is the
Speaker 2: band for the Beach Boys. There seemingly some Beatles albums.
Speaker 2: I don't know about Hendricks for certain. Definitely the Birds, Crosby,
Speaker 2: Stills and Nash. I mean, this is the music that
Speaker 2: we hear on those albums, the Mamas and the Papas.
Speaker 2: You know, he most of the processed bands. Overwhelmingly, it
Speaker 2: seems the Mama's in the papas the Beatles. Phil Spector's
Speaker 2: process Sonny and Cher come out of that mix, So
Speaker 2: you know, I do. I do think there was something
Speaker 2: something said there. Obviously the Monkeys, but the monkey. See,
Speaker 2: that's the thing about this manufactured nature of how we
Speaker 2: look at things from the outside as well. So Peter Tork,
Speaker 2: Jack Nicholson speaking of cocaine. Bob and Jimmy Hendrix used
Speaker 2: to hang out at Peter Tork's house in Laurel Canyon
Speaker 2: together every day, and Jimmy Hendrix went on tour with
Speaker 2: the Monkeys and played music with them and played on
Speaker 2: the music of the film that Jack Nicholson would direct
Speaker 2: with their stuff. So I just I don't know. The
Speaker 2: whole movement to me seems extremely manufactured.
Speaker 3: I agree in it too a sense.
Speaker 6: I just like I said, I think it's by providence
Speaker 6: for two things, because in the sixties there you did
Speaker 6: have a lot of military families based in San Diego
Speaker 6: and the Los Angeles area, and you have a what
Speaker 6: became a blend of people because you have Hendrix when
Speaker 6: he dropped out or was just I was honorably discharged
Speaker 6: from the army, went to New York and hang out,
Speaker 6: hangs out with the Eisley brothers, right, and he learned
Speaker 6: all of his.
Speaker 2: Chops from familiar with these bedtime tales and uh so he.
Speaker 3: Cut his teeth in New York City and then couldn't
Speaker 3: make it in the United States, goes over to England
Speaker 3: and this that's where the the European connection comes in.
Speaker 3: So then you bring in Eric Clapton, you bring in
Speaker 3: Jeff Beck, you bring in the Who, and now you
Speaker 3: have so what I'm saying is you have a side
Speaker 3: that is bullshit like the Osmond brother the Osmond family.
Speaker 3: You have Sonny and Cheer, you have the Monkeys, you
Speaker 3: have the whole Uh what was that show, Simler's List.
Speaker 2: You're a big Eric Strata fan, right, we're talking about Chips.
Speaker 3: A huge Eric Strata fan.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 2: Chips before you you could say thatta, But.
Speaker 3: Uh, the you have. What I'm saying is you have
Speaker 3: a blend of hardworking, extremely talented musicians who again are
Speaker 3: disassociated with their families. And then you have a manufactured
Speaker 3: Hollywood thing with the phil Spector and the Wall of
Speaker 3: Sound and uh, the Tower of Power and all these
Speaker 3: musicians that were just okay, just go in there, cut
Speaker 3: that record. And then those were the people, the Beatles,
Speaker 3: the Monkeys.
Speaker 6: They were getting these huge stadium tours, and so what
Speaker 6: you had to do to get your name and to
Speaker 6: get these get on these tours to make a big
Speaker 6: name for yourself was open for those bands.
Speaker 3: So Hendrix would open for the Monkeys, and that it's
Speaker 3: like what I mean, it makes no sense at all.
Speaker 3: But and then I think, because when you're talking about talent,
Speaker 3: you're talking about when you talking about the Birds, you're
Speaker 3: talking about Neil Young, you're talking about, uh, what's the Crosby,
Speaker 3: Stills and Ash, you know, and all those guys.
Speaker 2: Young you.
Speaker 3: Up into the Rick James great, great music, you know,
Speaker 3: So the talent.
Speaker 5: Is a disagree there. But I do I do want
Speaker 5: to say, like I get your point. I just think
Speaker 5: you need to read strange scenes inside the Canyon and
Speaker 5: then we could talk more about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because when you, yeah, when you moved Neil Young
Speaker 2: and from Toronto, who's doing a band called the uh
Speaker 2: the Minor Birds with Rick James, Cocaine's the Hell of
Speaker 2: a Drug, Rick James, Rick James, bitch, you know that
Speaker 2: that Rick James? Right? You know again it's Manu. The
Speaker 2: machinations are the scene. Really we're obviously not apparent then
Speaker 2: they seem apparent now, right. But like my point is
Speaker 2: this movement moves out of this beatnik movement. They mash
Speaker 2: them together in that Summer of Love at Monterey from
Speaker 2: the San Francisco thing, and that's one of the grateful
Speaker 2: Dead who came from their first concert in watts down
Speaker 2: there by Compton in south central LA as the Warlocks.
Speaker 2: They're embedded as a San Francisco thing under the same
Speaker 2: guys in the St. Nashbury era of Charles Manson, of
Speaker 2: folks like you know again, so on and so forth,
Speaker 2: with all the other political machinations up the process that
Speaker 2: are going on there, and it's the Beatniks to bring
Speaker 2: us that. It's Herbcane from the San Francisco Chronicle who
Speaker 2: coins the term beatnik, and it is all these folks
Speaker 2: like Ken Kesey, Allen Ginsburg, William Burrows, Jack Kerouac. They
Speaker 2: literally launch this movement we're discussing of the music that
Speaker 2: is mashed into this movement that comes from Laurel Canyon
Speaker 2: preceding this right, because we're talking about sixty five through
Speaker 2: sixty seven where this music is being developed early sixty
Speaker 2: four really with the Birds and Bobby Boseley and Kenneth Anger,
Speaker 2: huge Crowleyites and part of the Manson family the pre
Speaker 2: date Manson in that era. So there's a there's an
Speaker 2: element of this cult activity that the predates Charlie getting
Speaker 2: out of prison there in sixty seven simultaneously that his
Speaker 2: buddy Edward when Edwards the possible Zetia killer. By the way,
Speaker 2: they're both let out in Pearl at the same time.
Speaker 2: That seems convenient. But we we look at this beatnik
Speaker 2: situation and it's all ci a documented Jack, you know, Kerawak,
Speaker 2: Ken Kesey, you know, Alan Ginsburg, William Burrows, the scientologists.
Speaker 2: We got a lot of kid dealers in this group too.
Speaker 2: It's very strange. Cara WAC's a fucking Nazi. By the way,
Speaker 2: I don't have anyone knew that one that got that
Speaker 2: was kind of surprising.
Speaker 4: Cara Wac was what Mike Myers said that he uh
Speaker 4: used for his inspiration for the film.
Speaker 5: Just so you guys, that's a good tie back, it is.
Speaker 2: That's a good that's a fun fact, Dotty. Thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now are you altim there with the King Kill thirty three?
Speaker 2: Theory of Jane Shelby Downward in the assassinations a legissassinations
Speaker 2: there of John F. Kennedy. Mm hmmm, that's Jack Kerowac's friend.
Speaker 2: Him and James Shelby Downard were BFFs.
Speaker 4: Downard's book is really good with all of that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: super like informative.
Speaker 2: Kine, have you ever heard these ideas of the mystical
Speaker 2: toponymy and assassinations of JFK and a very esoteric psychodrama
Speaker 2: led on by these same intelligence agencies that were describing
Speaker 2: as the machinations behind the beat Nicks and the local
Speaker 2: Canyon movement.
Speaker 3: When I lived in San Diego, my boss is at
Speaker 3: the liquor store I worked out. We're brothers, and I.
Speaker 2: Remember these guys. I liked these guys, Yeah, Tom.
Speaker 3: And Steve yea and the place is called the Lawyer
Speaker 3: one Shop and Spirit Shop. I'm sorry, And so they
Speaker 3: used to share with me all the stories. And Steve
Speaker 3: was actually a music and Tom was a musician, great
Speaker 3: guitar player, so he knew a lot of these people.
Speaker 3: So here I'll just to wrap up what I was
Speaker 3: saying is you had these military connections. Definitely a lot
Speaker 3: of these music musicians had high level coincidentally military grade parents.
Speaker 3: And so what I think is to have just like
Speaker 3: you did do today, where you bring in the talent,
Speaker 3: Am I right? And so then you indoctrinate a doctrinary.
Speaker 3: And so what I think happened is when you talk
Speaker 3: about the grateful dead and a CikA. I think that
Speaker 3: that's probably the connection with the leucinogenics as far as
Speaker 3: maybe it was experimented on by government agencies. Somehow it
Speaker 3: gets to the kids, then it just spreads like wildfire.
Speaker 3: You have to look at like Mollie used to be
Speaker 3: prescribed by psychiatrists for couples that we're having issues in
Speaker 3: the bedroom.
Speaker 2: What you call did you call me Mollie? I like
Speaker 2: it that I do, and I know me and interroject
Speaker 2: I do. I always just want to try to keep
Speaker 2: us back on track a bit. But I do like
Speaker 2: your heads at and and and I appreciate those thoughts.
Speaker 2: And I used to be a lot like what you're
Speaker 2: saying is where I used to be a lot on
Speaker 2: these subjects. And I'm not saying it's to your lack
Speaker 2: of information or education. I'm not saying that to be
Speaker 2: a dick about her anything. I'm just saying like, over time,
Speaker 2: I have developed new thoughts when I do learn new information.
Speaker 2: And I assure you, sir, when the tabs. The founder
Speaker 2: of the Tavistal Institute's son is the manager in music
Speaker 2: publishing president or music president of The Grateful Deads and
Speaker 2: Music Publishing Company and best friends with Jerry Garcia. We're
Speaker 2: not looking at these We're not looking at an organic movement.
Speaker 5: One hundred.
Speaker 2: We're not looking at it. And again, it pains me
Speaker 2: to say that because I was a huge grateful Dead fan.
Speaker 2: It's strange to say that, you know, to hear that
Speaker 2: it fell, that's spent five years in I'm bat it was.
Speaker 2: It was a grateful Dead fan. I assuged. It was
Speaker 2: weird folks, even over there when I'm wearing TI dies,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Were you really I was
Speaker 2: huged a yeah, even in my twenties for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I just want to say before we get back to
Speaker 5: the movie, these comments are fucked up today. I mean,
Speaker 5: they got like a fifty to fifty split of people
Speaker 5: saying like really useful information, and then another three or
Speaker 5: four people who are just being absolutely retired.
Speaker 2: I see, well, I see, I don't know what this
Speaker 2: comment is, but they're out of here. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just now catching up. There is I see some
Speaker 2: wild some wild comments. Actually I can't I can't do
Speaker 2: anything about that one.
Speaker 5: I was just like we were all talking and I
Speaker 5: looked over and I was like, what the fuck is.
Speaker 2: This yea, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 3: What was it?
Speaker 5: I didn't even see like big black cocks and I, well,
Speaker 5: it's not.
Speaker 2: We don't need that. We don't we don't need it.
Speaker 2: We don't need to give a further plaid for him. Gross,
Speaker 2: it's on. I just sent you all note on the
Speaker 2: back that how to take care of I can't. I
Speaker 2: can't do any onminion.
Speaker 3: But the.
Speaker 2: The oh yeah, I'm way behind in comments, way behind it.
Speaker 2: Uh so the where were we at before? We were
Speaker 2: talking about broadcasting corps?
Speaker 5: She mentioned Mike Myers inspiration Jack Carroa.
Speaker 2: Jack, thank you forget about H. S.
Speaker 6: Thompson as well, which I think is another talented person
Speaker 6: that worked hard to where he was getting. If you
Speaker 6: want to say it was in documentary that that's the
Speaker 6: way I see it, that there's a biggure element.
Speaker 2: Strange enough, he's friends with Jared Jack Carrowac. I think
Speaker 2: they're Nazi channels. I mean they have some right wing
Speaker 2: extremists circles going around Jack Carrouac, James Shelby Downer, and
Speaker 2: folks like Thompson.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: So one of the guys I can't think of his
Speaker 2: name right now. He was with Thompson on his nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy two campaign. I think with Nixon, one of these
Speaker 2: guys in that crew was one of one of Cara
Speaker 2: Wax friends there with James Bowner was in that crew
Speaker 2: with That's what I'm saying. I just you know, and
Speaker 2: in Hunter S. Thompson, you know, he's guarding the Esslin
Speaker 2: Institute while they're building it. He's the he's the security
Speaker 2: guard there. I mean, let's get out, let's get out
Speaker 2: of town, folks, you know, I mean not. You know, again,
Speaker 2: I have no proof, but I buy into the stories
Speaker 2: of all the snuff films and he was allegedly filming
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, So I don't find it would
Speaker 2: be a savory character cane Unfortunately, who's that? What's the Thompson.
Speaker 5: Don't even get me started on that guy.
Speaker 2: He let Processing and Johnny Depp live in his house.
Speaker 2: I mean, let me. I don't. I don't have a
Speaker 2: card Caring member or a statement from Hunter S. Thompson.
Speaker 2: He was a processed guy, but you know, he walks
Speaker 2: like a processed guy, talks like a processed guy. He's
Speaker 2: probably my point.
Speaker 3: My point is, I don't think think that the whole
Speaker 3: movement is something that people were born into. I think
Speaker 3: it's something when you could when you can conglomerate in
Speaker 3: this area, there's there's different options that you have scientology process.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: But you know, I just wanted to mention, Juliet that
Speaker 3: you blew my mind when uh what was that before
Speaker 3: we were talking about?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, I don't want to forget it now.
Speaker 2: Uh, don't you better come up with an answer. You
Speaker 2: know what's coming.
Speaker 3: I know it's coming down. Just show me down.
Speaker 5: Was it about Was it about Mackenzie Phillips.
Speaker 3: Or nose before that? Darn't it?
Speaker 12: Oh?
Speaker 3: Because okay, one of my platforms is the prettier the face,
Speaker 3: the darker the heart. And so when you said that
Speaker 3: about the bay the extraction stuff, because you you can't
Speaker 3: you can't sit on this on this uh YouTube channel
Speaker 3: right now and say what are we talking about again?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 3: And so you can't say, oh, the Shiners they have
Speaker 3: a dark agen. There's just no proof they do all
Speaker 3: the but look at the extremes that they go to
Speaker 3: for children and the access that that gives you. And
Speaker 3: you know, Marty, the Danny Thomas Foundation, those types of
Speaker 3: things that cater to kids are the possibly you know, so.
Speaker 2: No, I I don't. Again, I hate to interject, just
Speaker 2: want to try to keep on keep on track here,
Speaker 2: and I know your heads at and I appreciate where
Speaker 2: your head's at. It's a very reasonable statement. You're making
Speaker 2: my track pad in my computer jam for some reason.
Speaker 2: What's going on here? Huh?
Speaker 3: The uh?
Speaker 2: My point being is that we do have evidence of
Speaker 2: folks being born into this. We have evidence like Ousley
Speaker 2: they the Dancing Bear from The Grateful Dead. He's connected
Speaker 2: directly into this beatnik movement I'm describing tonight, and it's
Speaker 2: a beatnik movement that we see celebrates on this entire film.
Speaker 2: That's and that's kind of what I always wanted to
Speaker 2: bring it back in here. Is this The term beatnik
Speaker 2: kind of gets into this chronicle situation. We see a
Speaker 2: scene from the San Francisco Chronicle, which is again the
Speaker 2: heart of the zodiac. Again, we're gonna we're in a
Speaker 2: movie about a serial killer. So I don't think these
Speaker 2: things should be ignored. I think I somehow put comments
Speaker 2: on the screen, and I don't even know how I
Speaker 2: did that at this point in time, folks, So you know,
Speaker 2: I apologize, Juliev. I'm covering me up there as far
Speaker 2: as comments go, the uh but so, And it is
Speaker 2: with this beatnik movement we see again out of the
Speaker 2: Cara WACs, the Burrows, the you know, et cetera, et cetera,
Speaker 2: and Ousley, so Olsley comes out of the same movement.
Speaker 2: He's the chemist. He's born into a very elite line
Speaker 2: family like that, and he's he's he's a chemist for
Speaker 2: the LSD. That that's not stolen, I mean, it's intentionally.
Speaker 2: It's documented that he's doing for the CIA. He knew
Speaker 2: he was doing for the CIA, and they're distributed through
Speaker 2: Grateful Dead Concerts, which is being managed by the founder
Speaker 2: of the Tavistock's son who was friends with Jolly West.
Speaker 2: He set up the program that Jolly West would come
Speaker 2: take over at UCLA. Before Jolly West got there, he
Speaker 2: laid then, you know, laid the groundwork, it seems. So
Speaker 2: we're talking to all MKL for stuff, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. So I think that's interesting. We see that
Speaker 2: highlighted here in the beat next story, right, because it
Speaker 2: is this Beatnicks and we see we see the term
Speaker 2: beatnik being described as a as a combination of the
Speaker 2: term sputnick and what was the other half for that,
Speaker 2: I don't remember. But we see that, we see them
Speaker 2: highlight we even so we see the beat the beat
Speaker 2: poets all right, all the places we see throughout the
Speaker 2: film Mike Myers character, right, it's all beat Beat Poets, right,
Speaker 2: and uh, that's the whole underlying plot line, right. And
Speaker 2: then we see at one point, uh that his uh
Speaker 2: as presumably as that's his younger brother, right, the kid
Speaker 2: from the Mighty Ducks. Right, But like is Mike Myers
Speaker 2: character's younger brother, the you know head, but they call
Speaker 2: his head sputnik.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to do.
Speaker 2: I'm all jammed up on this end in as forest,
Speaker 2: he's got its own weather jammed.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: That's a that's a great scene. And speaking of another
Speaker 2: film with kids that had probably some dark ship you know,
Speaker 2: is about Mighty Ducks, you know what I mean? Those
Speaker 2: kids didn't turn.
Speaker 5: Out right, No, they did not, And there was it
Speaker 5: wasn't the main guy from the sandlot in Mighty Ducks.
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a lot.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of crossovers in. There's that one
Speaker 2: kid Rock Pierce who played the young Emelio Stevez and
Speaker 2: he's a deadler and uh did those other folks and uh,
Speaker 2: you know, so on and so forth. You know, he's
Speaker 2: part of that den, that digital entertainment network that was
Speaker 2: owned by Geffen. He was the diddler that ran that operation.
Speaker 2: He was his young boy toy rock Piers. He was
Speaker 2: Steve Bannon's guest the last inauguration. Just then, on that note,
Speaker 2: we see the Beatnicks being venerated throughout this entire film,
Speaker 2: throughout the poetry, you know, the whole plotline of which
Speaker 2: I'll get you in a minute, because I want to
Speaker 2: ask y'all, what's Charlie McKenzie's job. How does he make money?
Speaker 2: But on that note, hold on one second, all right,
Speaker 2: head he.
Speaker 8: Paper, No move that melon of yours and get the paper.
Speaker 8: If you can't pulla not cargant and cranium about. I'm
Speaker 8: not kidding that. Boys heads like spotnik sphracle but quick
Speaker 8: pointy in the past.
Speaker 3: Well that was.
Speaker 2: So we literally see the continued veneration in this film
Speaker 2: of you know, of the whole Beatnick thing, and again
Speaker 2: the beat Nicks turn into the hippies through the direct
Speaker 2: the direct connections of the Jack Kerouac and the Mary pranksters,
Speaker 2: et cetera in the alsy situation. Right, So are you
Speaker 2: familiar with the Tuesday Weld factor in that in that
Speaker 2: environment this beat Nick hippie machinations right where the Beatnicks
Speaker 2: meet the hippies. Are you familiar with the Tuesday world
Speaker 2: situation there?
Speaker 5: Julia, Oh, well, she's involved in everything, isn't she?
Speaker 3: She is?
Speaker 2: Indeed she is indeed, well, she's involved in the TV
Speaker 2: show that we see the first beat Nick depicted Gilligan.
Speaker 5: That's funny.
Speaker 2: Yeah, old Bob. I was about to call him Bob
Speaker 2: Denver for a second. You know it is Bob Denver, right, Bob? Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what. Yeah. So he's he's the first, if I
Speaker 2: can find it here somewhere, he is the first. Here
Speaker 2: we go. He is the first Beatnick we see. So
Speaker 2: this is the proto hippie movement. This is and this
Speaker 2: is Tuesday Wild. She's in the same TV show, The
Speaker 2: Many Loves of Adobie Gillis. You know this one?
Speaker 3: I know, Adobie Gills Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well you you, sir? Please tell us what is The
Speaker 2: Many Lives of Debbie Gillis.
Speaker 3: It was a beating at comedy with Gilligan and you
Speaker 3: know an interesting fact about the captain wore that captain's
Speaker 3: outfit for the rest of his life, Like he would
Speaker 3: go to bars dressed as the captain and people would
Speaker 3: buy you know, and uh till the day he died.
Speaker 3: Donna Wells uh not pictured.
Speaker 2: There is this a Gilligan story or Abie Gillis story,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I got I got off track, or is
Speaker 2: this an next girlfriend story? Did you date her?
Speaker 3: Well, my mom and I went to go see Donna
Speaker 3: Wells at the Showboat Dinner Theater and she was going
Speaker 3: to play there. She was Maryanne on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they never they had to do that because
Speaker 2: they never got royalties for that show.
Speaker 3: Bob very broke. He was a radio Gilligan's Island is
Speaker 3: actually one of the most underrating movies of all time.
Speaker 2: Well back to mister Gilligan here who I first knew
Speaker 2: to be before gilligans aland I knew him to be
Speaker 2: a radio host in southern West Virginia. So that was
Speaker 2: what That's what happens when these people like Old Cocaine
Speaker 2: Bob and Phili Spactory gang take all the money from
Speaker 2: the from the talent in which they produce things with.
Speaker 2: That's that's my take on that. But we see Crab's
Speaker 2: character Mayindard Crabs, portrayed by actor Bob Denver, begins the
Speaker 2: series as a beatnik with a go t hip slang
Speaker 2: language and generally unkept bohemian appearance. Again, this is where
Speaker 2: the proto hippie movement begins, and there's a direct lineage
Speaker 2: with all of these things. And again topic for another day.
Speaker 2: That I know Julia and I is one of our
Speaker 2: favorite characters that we both have interest in is the
Speaker 2: actress Tuesday Weld. And this is she's in this series,
Speaker 2: and she's also the connecting principle amongst the hippie and
Speaker 2: beatnik movement, strangely enough, but it is the beatniks we
Speaker 2: find in the film, highlighted throughout the whole film, right that,
Speaker 2: And on that note, let's let's do a round table
Speaker 2: here on this question. We see it. We're introduced to
Speaker 2: Charlie Mackenzie mike Meyer's character, as we saw on the trailer, right,
Speaker 2: and he's a poet, right, which does in the context
Speaker 2: of the nineties doesn't make a lot of sense, But
Speaker 2: in the context of the fifties and the beatnik movement,
Speaker 2: that was what these fellos did, right, But what did
Speaker 2: what did Charlie? How does Charlie mackenzie live?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: What what's his job?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: They don't really tell us, right, like what are your
Speaker 2: all his thoughts? And how he how he makes money?
Speaker 3: He he was like a writer or something like that, right,
Speaker 3: who's he writing for? Tell us or something like that?
Speaker 3: Or I don't remember. That's a good question, Jane.
Speaker 5: Do they even mention it?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 2: Here's the deal. You know how many times I watched
Speaker 2: this film before I even asked that question. I watched
Speaker 2: this film at least it made the Century Club before
Speaker 2: I said, you know what, wait a second, because it
Speaker 2: was after I started learning about all these beat Nicks
Speaker 2: and the hippies and the machinations behind the same right,
Speaker 2: because again, I love San Francisco. I did not want
Speaker 2: to hear these cia machinations of the grateful dead and
Speaker 2: these activities. But you know, the facts are facts. In
Speaker 2: my opinion, I called him, how's a season? But you know,
Speaker 2: I watched it so many times? What does he do?
Speaker 2: They don't tell us, do they?
Speaker 3: M Well, he does stand up poetry?
Speaker 2: Well that but that's that's a nod back to the
Speaker 2: Beatnik movement. That's what they did, right, Those were the
Speaker 2: Beatnik poets.
Speaker 5: So what is your theory?
Speaker 2: Well, his best friends a detective, right, mm hmm. So
Speaker 2: he seems like he's a some sort of narc or
Speaker 2: co intel prone formant m infiltrating the scenes, just like
Speaker 2: the Beatniks did, right, Project Chaos, FBI, co intel pro,
Speaker 2: whichever you want to cut it. But it's the same
Speaker 2: thing the Beatniks did. They were doing the same activities.
Speaker 2: We see that with Charlie mackenzie.
Speaker 5: Well because at the very beginning of the movie when
Speaker 5: he's talking to his friend and he's like, you look
Speaker 5: like a pimp. That's you look like a like an
Speaker 5: undercover police officer. That yeah, kind of look like a pimp.
Speaker 5: And he was like, I am an undercover police officer
Speaker 5: that's trying to look like a pimp.
Speaker 2: So that's why I made that Chips reference before also
Speaker 2: because what I really meant was not Chips. But the
Speaker 2: other one starts skiing Hutch because he says he looks
Speaker 2: like Huggy Bear and he does. Why is he dressed
Speaker 2: like a seventies pimp as an undercover detective in the
Speaker 2: nineteen nineties?
Speaker 3: What is that?
Speaker 2: What is that a throwback. What you know, what are
Speaker 2: they saying and doing? Mike Myers rewrote this whole script.
Speaker 4: Yes, there was a huge problem with it was like
Speaker 4: a huge it almost went to court or did so?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if before we start unpacking, Oh, did you
Speaker 2: have any other comments on what his job was? Does
Speaker 2: anyone else pick up on anything there hiding?
Speaker 5: I didn't.
Speaker 2: So we see the plotline of the serial killer play
Speaker 2: out around around the story of Charlie Mackenzie's beat poet
Speaker 2: whose best friend, Anthony Lapalgia, is a start skiing hutch
Speaker 2: huggy bear guy. So that's what I'm saying, Like, they
Speaker 2: don't tell us what he's doing for a job. He's
Speaker 2: always with his police detective. I mean, you know, you
Speaker 2: just put two and two together at that point, you know,
Speaker 2: I called him how to sea. But we see the
Speaker 2: whole narrative unfold around this kind of plotline.
Speaker 8: Right here, he'll decrying himself to sleep the night on
Speaker 8: this huge pillar.
Speaker 12: Hey mom, I find it interesting that you refer to
Speaker 12: the Weekly World News as the paper.
Speaker 3: The paper contains facts.
Speaker 11: This paper contains facts, and this paper has the eighth
Speaker 11: highest circulation in the whole wide world. Right twenty fact,
Speaker 11: pregnant man gives birth.
Speaker 4: That's a fact.
Speaker 10: There is little.
Speaker 2: I just want to point out that, you know, sometimes
Speaker 2: I'm not saying all the time, but sometimes, just as
Speaker 2: they were stating, there, you can find facts in these
Speaker 2: weekly World News things, because that's where I learned about
Speaker 2: Nathaniel bar Jona for the very first time, out of
Speaker 2: the Weekly World News while standing at a grocery store
Speaker 2: in Great Falls, Montana, about a kidndling, psychopathic, cannibalistic, homicidal
Speaker 2: serial killer who murdered some folks there in the same town.
Speaker 2: I learned it in from an edition of the Weekly
Speaker 2: World News. Strangely enough, so you can't learn facts from
Speaker 2: the Weekly World News, but it is.
Speaker 5: They also mentioned that in Men in Black, the first one,
Speaker 5: when he's training him, he's like, the real news comes
Speaker 5: from these and it was like, y where the some
Speaker 5: something crashed in my yard and was wearing my husband
Speaker 5: like an Edgar suit or whatever?
Speaker 3: To me?
Speaker 5: You know, I think they have to put like the
Speaker 5: tabloids truth stuff in there.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think the premise is, oh, for sure, right, for sure,
Speaker 3: that he's a successful single guy, never been married, but
Speaker 3: is unable to find someone and that's the whole quest.
Speaker 3: That becomes the quest of the thumb, and he falls
Speaker 3: in love with the girl and then obviously I don't
Speaker 3: want to reveal the end, but uh.
Speaker 2: So that that is obviously there is some he's got
Speaker 2: some he's got some problems, right, but his mom describes
Speaker 2: him that she's worried about him. But he can't maintain
Speaker 2: a girlfriend relationship. Again, I don't know how he's supposed
Speaker 2: to do. What job does he have? She doesn't even know.
Speaker 2: They never discussed when he's discussing his parents, there's never
Speaker 2: a conversation about employment. I'm just pointing these things out
Speaker 2: because it took me hundreds of times to watch this
Speaker 2: for even realize, what does this dude do for a living?
Speaker 2: How's this guy have money? His parents used to run
Speaker 2: a butcher shop. We do We learned that over the
Speaker 2: hagis right.
Speaker 6: Mm hmmn he worked in the butcher shop, so we
Speaker 6: knew he had one job.
Speaker 2: As a teenager.
Speaker 3: I think they probably, if it was intentional or not,
Speaker 3: left it and ambiguous to uh just let you in
Speaker 3: your mind imagine what a successful person is.
Speaker 6: That's it's like that's kind of just assumed and established
Speaker 6: to the beginning of the movie. Mike Myers has his
Speaker 6: own place, he's got you know, everything's together.
Speaker 3: The only thing that keeps faltering his life is the whip.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't disagree with your assessment. That is
Speaker 2: a very uh that's a very accurate assessment of the
Speaker 2: plot narratives of the film, for sure. For sure. I
Speaker 2: just I questioned, when I see gaps, why didn't they
Speaker 2: describe that? What are they telling us when they don't
Speaker 2: describe something like that? Like why does he drive that
Speaker 2: old bus? To ask carb he's got money? Where does
Speaker 2: he live? You don't ever see his house.
Speaker 3: You don't want to miss you, You want to want
Speaker 3: to perfect lead. That's why you always find in Hollywood
Speaker 3: movies they try to find that girl next door. Look
Speaker 3: that's pretty, but it just has the pause where you
Speaker 3: could you feel like you had a chance, you know, like.
Speaker 2: Is he homeless? Because Harriet's got a pretty big, pretty
Speaker 2: big spice move in there? Right?
Speaker 3: We don't see his home doing just capt the charmedhouse.
Speaker 3: That's his parents though, right, arm is where they went
Speaker 3: in their honeymo charm.
Speaker 2: But we don't see his house there right right, So
Speaker 2: as I'm gonna play a next clip about the serial killer.
Speaker 2: Then we can start unpacking the narratives the characters in
Speaker 2: these in these locations. If y'all don't don't mind.
Speaker 4: There is.
Speaker 11: Missus X, the honeymoon murderer. She marries men under fake
Speaker 11: identities and then she murders him.
Speaker 4: She's murdered three men already.
Speaker 8: Look.
Speaker 11: Victim number one was a lounge singer, Victim number two
Speaker 11: a Russian martial arts expert. And she's also killed a
Speaker 11: plumber named Ralph Elliott.
Speaker 4: And her whereabouts unknown.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 8: Yeah, in my.
Speaker 2: In my name, you, on my on my dream, you
Speaker 2: and my.
Speaker 8: Yourselic Yeah, I did, on baby, I deed you the bustling.
Speaker 2: I had. I had to leave the drunken dad in there.
Speaker 2: It's a great part.
Speaker 8: My eyes, my eyes.
Speaker 6: I mean, you made a good point earlier in saying
Speaker 6: you were used to seeing him as gets in my buddy,
Speaker 6: and you know.
Speaker 3: These characters, his characters are always over the top. But
Speaker 3: it's even with his dad, it's it's it's more of
Speaker 3: a regular character. And and he's just he made something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, thank you, and the uh, I think I
Speaker 6: just realized what you're you're kind of onto jj is.
Speaker 3: I think they make him this plain neutral character, this
Speaker 3: this NPC, you know, not non player character that's just
Speaker 3: kind of generic that way, the family members that he
Speaker 3: plays and these type of things stand out more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I see what you're saying. And that
Speaker 2: was actually some I think, if I remember correctly, someone
Speaker 2: of the critical response to the film was they wanted
Speaker 2: to see it about the family and they didn't like
Speaker 2: the character of Charlie mackenzie. I love the Charlie McKenzie character.
Speaker 2: Don't get.
Speaker 3: Rollers, I mean favorite.
Speaker 2: I think it's fantastic on every front. I'm just in
Speaker 2: the writing is great. Again. I appreciate what Myers did
Speaker 2: to the script because I can't imagine it was. I mean,
Speaker 2: he had to make it better. He could have been
Speaker 2: this good, you know, So I just I do point
Speaker 2: out that we don't know his home, we don't know
Speaker 2: his job, right, go ahead, Hoddie.
Speaker 4: Oh, they were just gonna film it in New York
Speaker 4: and they were going to make it more like a
Speaker 4: real spy movie. And Sharon Stone was supposed to play
Speaker 4: the woman. So yeah, the completely and that's why he
Speaker 4: kind of fought for the rights to it, and they
Speaker 4: they wouldn't give it. It was a whole big thing.
Speaker 4: They went, they.
Speaker 2: Screwed them out of the rights. No, they know, the
Speaker 2: Screen Actress Guild. They screwed him and his two partners
Speaker 2: out of the rights.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm yep, and they were super upset because they
Speaker 4: basically rewrote it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, for sure. So we have the weird character
Speaker 2: of Charlie mackenzie. We've seen his parents, his brother, but
Speaker 2: his buddy the detective there in the conspiracy theory scene.
Speaker 2: And then we haven't been quite introduced to Harriet's sister though,
Speaker 2: have we. She's the other main character. She is obviously
Speaker 2: a spoiler alert, she is the serial killer. Now we
Speaker 2: don't learn that so much later in the film because obviously,
Speaker 2: as we saw the mom him off all of these
Speaker 2: different dead husbands, Charlie keeps finding out that, like you know,
Speaker 2: throughout the film, he's finding out that another one of
Speaker 2: these these dead husbands pops up, and he thinks that
Speaker 2: he's telling his detective buddy, like, hey, this lady's a
Speaker 2: serial killer, right, and his detective buddy says, look, I
Speaker 2: looked into one of those cases, and you know that
Speaker 2: wasn't the case, and that was the case of Ralph Elliott.
Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden halfway through the film,
Speaker 2: we see twist, right because we see that he learns
Speaker 2: that Ralph Elliott, you know, he breaks up with Harriet
Speaker 2: as a result of that. Right, we see that Ralph Elliott,
Speaker 2: you know, may might not be Yes, sir, well, I
Speaker 2: think he was the plumber. I think he was the plumber.
Speaker 2: We find out that he may not have been murdered. Oh,
Speaker 2: I mean the whole I mean, I think there's probably
Speaker 2: even something to that with all these victims. I just
Speaker 2: didn't quite go into that deep of an analysis on him.
Speaker 2: But we find out that as far as the turning
Speaker 2: point goes, is that Ralph Elliott may have been may
Speaker 2: not have been murdered. So he overhears that again in
Speaker 2: the San Francisco Chronicle.
Speaker 9: Is Frank, Nah, just.
Speaker 12: These two been dead around here? I got this one here,
Speaker 12: a tourist heart attack on a cable car.
Speaker 3: God left his heart in San Francisco.
Speaker 6: Hey, it's a real person you're talking about, all right,
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I'm serious.
Speaker 12: There was another one here in native San Francisco plumber Elliott.
Speaker 3: Ralph moved to.
Speaker 12: Dallas, disappeared four months ago.
Speaker 2: The body was found in.
Speaker 3: A sewer well. Guy takes his job too seriously.
Speaker 5: Life goes down to dream.
Speaker 3: Did they mention anything about his wife?
Speaker 2: All right, okay, I got this.
Speaker 5: Heart is so funny too.
Speaker 2: Oh, I got I got the other half of that.
Speaker 2: When I wanted to take an intermission on the just
Speaker 2: and just talk about that clip. Did you all have
Speaker 2: any thoughts on that clip?
Speaker 3: I think that's the scene that made me think that
Speaker 3: he was a writer for the paper. I guess I
Speaker 3: just always assumed that he was just some type of journalist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's dropping off. He's dropping off the anniversary announcement
Speaker 2: for his folks. When we see Califanakis at the party, right.
Speaker 3: Right, I guess I yeah, I didn't even I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess I never thought about what he did as
Speaker 3: far as it goes big. Yeah, Like I think I
Speaker 3: think they make him as generic un likable at the
Speaker 3: same time character, you know, like when she when she
Speaker 3: when they're at her house the first time, and he's like, listen,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and go home. This is usually
Speaker 3: where I mess up in situations by going too fast,
Speaker 3: and she goes He's like, I don't think I should
Speaker 3: sleep with you. She goes, I want to sleep with you, Okay,
Speaker 3: let's go or whatever he drops.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's a classic Mike Myers though, right,
Speaker 2: that's some Saturday Night Live style humor. I think that
Speaker 2: he inserted some of his classic style humor in there.
Speaker 3: They do leave a lot to imagination as far as
Speaker 3: his current situation in life, though, but they felt much
Speaker 3: deeper into his background, don't they, with his parents and
Speaker 3: the whole.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That was the critics review too.
Speaker 2: They focused a lot on that, but that wasn't really
Speaker 2: part of the story though, even though they focused a
Speaker 2: lot of that. So I think this again, to me,
Speaker 2: this is telling you what Myers the story Myers is
Speaker 2: trying to tell here, you know. So what that is
Speaker 2: I don't know. But again, they're standing in the Houston
Speaker 2: or the Houston San Francisco Chronicle, right, which is a
Speaker 2: game where Herb Kane was the editor for during the
Speaker 2: Zodiac ladders being sent to Herb Kane the editor, right,
Speaker 2: and he also is the guy that coined the term beatnicks.
Speaker 2: So back to why are they doing that inside the
Speaker 2: San Francisco Chronicle. That's a deeper meaning I think Heidi
Speaker 2: or Julia. Did y'ill have any thoughts on those that
Speaker 2: portion of the scene anything particular?
Speaker 5: Only that is hilarious.
Speaker 2: Turning point though, right, major turning points where that's because
Speaker 2: he takes Carr. You're back right?
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, he tells.
Speaker 3: He tells him, Uh, he asked him, Uh did they
Speaker 3: say anything about his wife? He's like, all right, that's
Speaker 3: I got, did anything about his wife?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 9: Okay, Look, I know that we're talking about real people.
Speaker 3: Here, so I'm sorry, No, no, I'm serious. Did they
Speaker 3: mention the wife? Look, I'm sorry, you know I you
Speaker 3: know I. I didn't mean to make a joke about
Speaker 3: other people's lives. No, No, I'm really serious that they
Speaker 3: mentioned the wife.
Speaker 9: You win.
Speaker 12: Okay, I'm a bad person, taking am saying I'm insensitive,
Speaker 12: saying I'm he's not saying they mentioned.
Speaker 4: The they mentioned the wife?
Speaker 5: No, No, they didn't mention the wife.
Speaker 9: You're happy?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I'm insensitive.
Speaker 4: I'm a very insensitive man.
Speaker 8: Stop your job.
Speaker 3: Look at that's what they're paying you for.
Speaker 2: Class.
Speaker 9: I love it.
Speaker 2: There's a lot more again, like that scene and other scenes.
Speaker 2: But so what what what about the characters we saw.
Speaker 2: I'll actually forgot to pull up a clip of the
Speaker 2: actual serial killer. I'll pull up the ending clipper to
Speaker 2: show us here after we go over the characters. But
Speaker 2: out of these different scenes, you all noticed the houses
Speaker 2: and the characters. Why don't you start us off on that.
Speaker 2: What are some of the biggest takeaways on the characters
Speaker 2: in the locations.
Speaker 4: So I really focused in on some odd things because
Speaker 4: I figured, like, go on the outer spectrum there. And
Speaker 4: so this house was called the Dunsmeyer Hellman Estate and
Speaker 4: it's featured us eat corner in yeah at the in
Speaker 4: uh huh. And and so with this one, I found
Speaker 4: this really interesting with what's going on there. They actually
Speaker 4: bought it. So this Dunsmeyer guy bought it for his
Speaker 4: bride and died on his honeymoon, and that's basically what
Speaker 4: they're filming there. So that was kind of fun.
Speaker 2: And then I'm glad you all picked up on that one.
Speaker 2: I got a picture of that in here somewhere. I'm
Speaker 2: just trying to find it.
Speaker 4: Yes, and his wife actually died a little bit after
Speaker 4: that as well. It's been used for a lot of
Speaker 4: scary movies, including Phantasma in nineteen seventy nine. Burnt Offerings
Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy six of You to Kill in nineteen
Speaker 4: eighty five, and there was like a bunch of other ones.
Speaker 3: So that's a great.
Speaker 2: Burnt offerings. That's kind of.
Speaker 4: Weird Offerings Offers seventy six, Yes, very strange. And the
Speaker 4: room that they rented when they went there for their
Speaker 4: honeymoon was the Robbie Burns Room. And that is a
Speaker 4: free Masonic poet who's super into the occult back in
Speaker 4: the day. He is Scottish and was a member of
Speaker 4: the Koshalan. Let's see how to say it.
Speaker 2: Do you know who else is a thirty second degree
Speaker 2: Scottish write freemason? Michael Richards. We just sell him.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I did not know that this guy was
Speaker 4: like a deep It's called the Koshalan fencible member. He
Speaker 4: was that, and it's like a super cultic faction, so.
Speaker 2: Aka the hard R Richards. Thank you, wes h.
Speaker 4: So super wild.
Speaker 2: But that was fun for me to but yeah, I'm sorry, sorry,
Speaker 2: Oh you're good.
Speaker 4: I just thought that crap crap, Yes.
Speaker 2: He needs to play doc and back to the future
Speaker 2: future Kine. I agree, King would be a good doc.
Speaker 2: There was there was now that you mentioned that there
Speaker 2: was actually a there was actually a connection to this
Speaker 2: film and Back to the Future, and it'll come back
Speaker 2: to me. Oh yeah, I'm sorry. One of the Beating
Speaker 2: It guys Jacks for Foddy. He he serves in the
Speaker 2: Scientologists UFO Aliens guy. You know, he's actually apparently the
Speaker 2: character basis for Doc Brown from Back to the Future
Speaker 2: and he's part of the beat Nick movement as well
Speaker 2: from San Francisco.
Speaker 4: Just saying, so, these are a couple other random things
Speaker 4: that I had from They weren't they were part of
Speaker 4: the wall, you know, the Scottish Hall of Fame, and
Speaker 4: I just wanted to mention some of those if this
Speaker 4: is a good time for that where it's part of
Speaker 4: the house, or should.
Speaker 2: I let's uh, let's take a quick speak of that
Speaker 2: murder that went down here, right, What was that about?
Speaker 4: Really? Uh well, he just died. He got sick and
Speaker 4: died on his honeymoon, and so it was really odd
Speaker 4: he wasn't murder then, like we but makes one wonder
Speaker 4: this is really old, so would they know if it
Speaker 4: was a poisoning? And then we're watching this show where
Speaker 4: he thinks he's being poisoned, but also dies on his honeymoon,
Speaker 4: so that was weird. And then she gets the house
Speaker 4: and you know, she dies like very shortly after. It
Speaker 4: wasn't too many years later, so it was very strange.
Speaker 2: Yeah, quite a property too, right.
Speaker 4: Oh, beautiful, gorgeous. It's a it does weddings now and
Speaker 4: it's like an Airbnb type wedding thing. So if anybody's
Speaker 4: getting married and you want a haunted house, because they
Speaker 4: do say there's paranormal activity there.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I wonder if they run this
Speaker 5: thing as like a B and B or something that
Speaker 5: you could go stay out, because I would definitely good,
Speaker 5: let's go. Yeah, I would say for sure, you're yay,
Speaker 5: we can.
Speaker 4: We can call Janet too.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, it's spooky.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of a little bit spooky.
Speaker 2: It is, right, It's not like it's not really out
Speaker 2: in the in the wilderness or nothing. That's kind of
Speaker 2: right there, right, No, it's weird.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I thought that was kind of fun.
Speaker 6: That's another interesting point as far as houses like this go,
Speaker 6: when you say they don't make them like this anymore.
Speaker 3: When you look at like the Chicago's World Fair, they're
Speaker 3: in the twenty.
Speaker 2: Actually, I think it was a little bit before that,
Speaker 2: but yes, well.
Speaker 3: Like within what a year over a swamp and then
Speaker 3: they just tore it right down, you know.
Speaker 6: And even there's a lot of houses here from the
Speaker 6: fifties in Tharwater, Florida, and they just they they're.
Speaker 3: So well built that they're they're I mean, it just
Speaker 3: it makes modern construction. And you just wonder about what
Speaker 3: when you look back at like the thirteen hundreds and
Speaker 3: sixteen hundreds, with the beautiful cathedrals and stuff that they built,
Speaker 3: you wonder what they're not telling us for sure.
Speaker 4: And that's was eighteen ninety nine when it was built
Speaker 4: just for house.
Speaker 3: It's hard to say it's a house now it's a
Speaker 3: B and B though, or whatever.
Speaker 2: I'll say. What they're not telling us is that's why
Speaker 2: Harriet and Charlie broke up, because they broke up right
Speaker 2: in front of this house and they claim it's a
Speaker 2: full house.
Speaker 4: But not that day, different day.
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying, so this is this is the
Speaker 2: house again the scene in the film I meant to
Speaker 2: I just want to bring it back to this before
Speaker 2: we go past the chronologically in the film when they
Speaker 2: did get back together after he heard the Ralph Elliott
Speaker 2: thing that was you know, that was that Ralph Elliott
Speaker 2: seems after he broke up with her in front of
Speaker 2: this house. Again, this is the full house house. Back
Speaker 2: to the Cocaine Bob connections, if you will, and the
Speaker 2: Manson murders, if you will. Again, this is the guy
Speaker 2: that owns this Manson property. The Ciello Drive is executive producer.
Speaker 2: But we what else do we see with that? With
Speaker 2: that home? Did anyone else pick up anything else? And
Speaker 2: that duns moround, I'm just that guy.
Speaker 4: That guy that they said they had that room that
Speaker 4: the Robbie Burrows room was that that guy is like, seriously,
Speaker 4: you guys should look into that secret society. It's it's
Speaker 4: pretty woo so really old.
Speaker 2: All right, nice? Nice? So did anyone else have any
Speaker 2: locations that they picked up on before we go into
Speaker 2: the conspiracy theory scene? Is one of these characters.
Speaker 5: My time to shine is definitely gonna be the living
Speaker 5: room scene with the dad. That's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Without further ado.
Speaker 11: He's giving Lindon those rubbish again.
Speaker 8: Well, it's a well known fact, Sonny jam that there's
Speaker 8: a secret society. If the five wealthiest people in the
Speaker 8: world known as the Pentavert who run everything in the world,
Speaker 8: including the newspapers and me triannually. Are the secret country
Speaker 8: mansion in Colorado, not dads the meadows.
Speaker 4: So who's in this panthereoid?
Speaker 8: The Queen, the Vatican, the Getty's, the lost Child's. I'm
Speaker 8: Colonel Sanders. Before he went TETs up. I hated the
Speaker 8: colonel with his oe beady eyes and that smug liquor
Speaker 8: his face. Oh you're gonna buy my chicken?
Speaker 3: Oh? How can you hate the colonel.
Speaker 8: Because he puts an addictive chemicals chicken that makes you
Speaker 8: cleave it fortnitely, Smarters.
Speaker 2: Interesting classic scene. I can watch it over again and
Speaker 2: over again. So Colonel Sanders.
Speaker 9: Sent you this?
Speaker 4: Yes, I had to. Or did you get it too?
Speaker 4: You saw this too?
Speaker 2: You said you said that to me?
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is all fantastic with Colonel Sanders. This is
Speaker 4: a real picture of the church prophets that are like
Speaker 4: top echelon guys. It cracked me up so bad knowing
Speaker 4: that Colonel Sanders. Actually the very first Kentucky Fried chicken
Speaker 4: ever made is in Salt Lake City. There was a
Speaker 4: guy that helped him named Pete Harman, and he is
Speaker 4: the key piece for Kentucky Fried Chicken. He's helped advertise
Speaker 4: and run it. He's also the one that came up
Speaker 4: with fingerlooking good statement. I'm nervous to say that with
Speaker 4: the chat today, but anyways, yeah.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 4: We fixed that. And then also he owns all. So
Speaker 4: this guy, Pete Harmon owned all of the Kentucky Fried
Speaker 4: Chickens in Utah, Washington, Nevada, and California. And he's a Mormon,
Speaker 4: and they were super good friends. They were best friends
Speaker 4: until yep, until he died, and well one of them died.
Speaker 4: Colonel Sanders died first, and Colonel Sanders, just FYI was
Speaker 4: a Freemason, lodged six fifty one Henryville, Dana Yep. So
Speaker 4: I just thought it was funny they gave him a
Speaker 4: little homage right here. I wonder if that was for
Speaker 4: this Harmon guy, Pete Harmon. Maybe it was a nod
Speaker 4: to all the tithing he paid.
Speaker 5: My uh my one and only thing that I took
Speaker 5: away from that little speech was also about Colonel Sanders,
Speaker 5: which I find interesting that you picked that too, because
Speaker 5: I have watched a lot of movies where secret societies
Speaker 5: and people who run everything are mentioned. The Vatican and
Speaker 5: the Queen are dead giveaways like everybody knows those. I
Speaker 5: did find it interesting that he mentioned the Gettys, the
Speaker 5: lesser known one. The Gettys do probably run everything, especially
Speaker 5: media and bens.
Speaker 4: Yes, the Gettys.
Speaker 2: There are the people behind Gavin News and the things
Speaker 2: in California right now are bring brought to us by
Speaker 2: the Getty family.
Speaker 13: Through lay right into controlling the media and a lot
Speaker 13: of ship. So this is what all those guys have
Speaker 13: in common.
Speaker 6: Sorry, Julia, the in that good back to that picture
Speaker 6: right there in the white suits if you don't mind.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you know you can see what they
Speaker 3: have in common. Is there we bea the eyes.
Speaker 2: Good one good Their.
Speaker 4: Canes too, their canes, don't miss that, right?
Speaker 2: Are you all familiar with this fellow. He's the guy
Speaker 2: that took over Colonel's KFC and made it what it was.
Speaker 2: John Y. Brown. He's a former governor of Kentucky. He
Speaker 2: took cocaine Bob's third wife from Phyllis Diller, former Miss America,
Speaker 2: and he's the reason why they have decadent parties of
Speaker 2: the Kentucky Derby because of all that cocaine. He was
Speaker 2: wrapped up in something called the Bluegrass Conspiracy with his
Speaker 2: attorney and best friend's son. Drew Thornton is the guy
Speaker 2: that jumped out of that aircraft wearing two thousand dollars loafers,
Speaker 2: armed to the teeth with some submachine machine guns from
Speaker 2: Mitch Morbell and his Cobra arms, and had a bunch
Speaker 2: of cocaine trapped to him. So, and that's what the
Speaker 2: bear found, any of that cocaine for cocaine Bear? But
Speaker 2: that was John Why Brown's buddies and gang. They're in Kentucky.
Speaker 5: Your family is from Kentucky, isn't it U?
Speaker 2: People? Yes, ma'am you do.
Speaker 5: I thought you had mentioned it before. Maybe I'm remembering.
Speaker 2: That wrong, but you remember correctly. Old Charles Manson and
Speaker 2: I are from Pikeville.
Speaker 5: Also Pikeville. That's right, that's right, because my family is
Speaker 5: also from well most of actually all of my family
Speaker 5: is is from the Appalachian Mountains in Kentucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I like, uh, what are we talking about?
Speaker 5: So they grew up in I think Butcher's Holler. It's
Speaker 5: us said it all the time, But now I'm forgetting.
Speaker 2: I have not I'm not familiar with that name. So
Speaker 2: I go and say, I don't know, say if you're
Speaker 2: they're from a Wise Virginia, Logan County, West Virginia, or Pikeville, Kentucky.
Speaker 2: I'm related to like every county there.
Speaker 5: It's close to Pikeville, but it's it's not I mean,
Speaker 5: it's close, but it's not Pikeful. But anyways, I grew
Speaker 5: up in Kentucky and I've I've eaten a million KFC's, right. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there was a bunch of KFC's in my hometown and
Speaker 5: I had really only experienced KFC from Kentucky and then
Speaker 5: when I moved and I had it other places. I
Speaker 5: do want to just say, it tastes different. It tastes
Speaker 5: like they definitely have added some chemicals and shiited to it.
Speaker 5: I've had, yeah something because I've had kfc in multiple
Speaker 5: different states and they all it all tasted really weird
Speaker 5: to me compared to the KFC's from actual Kentucky. I
Speaker 5: don't know. Maybe there's franchisements the Mormons ruined it. You
Speaker 5: think so, because I can't tell, like the franchise KFCs
Speaker 5: from like a chain KFC, like the chicken does taste different,
Speaker 5: like they've done.
Speaker 4: They they said that he was the one that made
Speaker 4: the ingredients for the special like spices. This guy from
Speaker 4: Utah sol maybe just for I don't know if that's
Speaker 4: just for his or or they're I'm.
Speaker 5: Cause I know that some are franchised. But anyways, I
Speaker 5: find it interesting that John Wayne Gacy actually married a
Speaker 5: woman whose father owned a bunch of KFS franchises, and
Speaker 5: he actually became the manager of a KFC and that's
Speaker 5: where he actually started meeting a lot of the young
Speaker 5: men that he inevitably ended up raping and killing at gfc's.
Speaker 5: And also John Wayne Gacy asked for his last meal
Speaker 5: a bucket of KFC and some French fries. So I
Speaker 5: do think it's interesting that like the whole programmed to
Speaker 5: kill thing comes back in in connection with KFC.
Speaker 3: Hold on right there, Julia, KFC has potato wedges.
Speaker 5: Except to correct you, that's what the article it says.
Speaker 5: It says John Wayne Gacy asks for a bucket of
Speaker 5: of KFC, twelve shrimps and French fries and a pound
Speaker 5: of strawberries for his last meal.
Speaker 2: Interesting. I did not know that.
Speaker 5: And somebody put in the comments. Gaysey was known as
Speaker 5: the Colonel but so wasn't Michael Ichino.
Speaker 2: Well he was actually a colonel, though at least Gaysey
Speaker 2: was not in the military.
Speaker 4: Right, No, he was not.
Speaker 5: But anyways, that was my interesting KFC uh Ax murder connection.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's maybe it's a baby or a baby oil
Speaker 3: that they're putting in the KFC there.
Speaker 2: What else you got came? What did you see anything
Speaker 2: with some some of these conspiracy theory stuff? Did anything
Speaker 2: tip you off there or any interest of any greater
Speaker 2: concerns or study you will?
Speaker 6: I just I like the tie in because you say, well,
Speaker 6: the family is irrelevant to the story, like the critics said.
Speaker 3: But the tie the whole tie in of the plot
Speaker 3: of the movie is his mom reading that.
Speaker 6: Paper and telling him the headline and all of the details,
Speaker 6: and then one by one he notices the martial arts
Speaker 6: stuff on the wall and the plumber story and he
Speaker 6: puts it all together from the insignificant little bit.
Speaker 3: With his parents.
Speaker 2: That's a good point. And if I may play a
Speaker 2: scene on that note, because the pivotal scene he gets
Speaker 2: back together, he goes and says he wants to marry her.
Speaker 4: Right? Are we moving on from conspiracies real quick? I did? Okay? Right?
Speaker 2: We can stay on that. I was just going to
Speaker 2: go over the then we can say we get some
Speaker 2: more information on I was just going to go on
Speaker 2: that note. I just hold that note.
Speaker 4: There's there's one thing with the Scottish Wall when we
Speaker 4: get there, and then the Pentabre. I just want to
Speaker 4: mention on the Pentabre. It means five truths and it's
Speaker 4: all for the greater good, so very much like New
Speaker 4: World Order stuff. So I just want to mention that
Speaker 4: before we moved in and.
Speaker 2: Actually spawned on Netflix series by Myers later, right.
Speaker 4: Yes, it was actually a nod to that. Well he
Speaker 4: said the pantabric then and then it comes out like
Speaker 4: what twenty five thirty years later or something.
Speaker 2: But it's based on that scene. I mean, that's what
Speaker 2: I didn't do very well.
Speaker 4: No, it's an easter egg there though for everybody to see,
Speaker 4: so for sure, it's that's interesting.
Speaker 2: What what about the Scottish Hall of Fame? Did you
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame?
Speaker 4: I love it so the Scottish Hall Wall of Fame,
Speaker 4: the ones I did pull off of there that kind
Speaker 4: of meant something. We got Sean Connery, who's a speculated freemason.
Speaker 4: We've got Sena E. Who has some major occult connections,
Speaker 4: especially through Prince earlier. And she made the fifth Filthy
Speaker 4: fifteen with the Satanic Panic where the parents started putting
Speaker 4: this stuff up for this specific song called Sugar Walls.
Speaker 4: That was a whole thing with her and Prince and
Speaker 4: then well, I mean sugar Walls, they're suspecting that it
Speaker 4: would be female genitalia. So she made this was Sheena Easton.
Speaker 4: She's on the wall there.
Speaker 2: She interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she made the Satanic Panic parents list called the
Speaker 4: Filthy fifteen back then for that song. I know that,
Speaker 4: So yeah, she she had some yep, the suspect connections there.
Speaker 4: And then Alexander Graham Bell he's on there. He's a
Speaker 4: mark master mason and an Alika shrine and he's also
Speaker 4: the regent of the Smithsonian. We've got Sir Harry Lauder
Speaker 4: Freemason and Jackie Stewart, which I didn't find an absolute confirmation,
Speaker 4: so I'll let him slide on it. But he's a
Speaker 4: race car driver.
Speaker 2: So just to let you guys know, all right, I'm
Speaker 2: glad you looked at those who was all on that wall.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't get that deep into the the characters,
Speaker 2: but we do see some interesting ones though, as I
Speaker 2: see the East and Satanic Panic one seems uniquely interesting
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely at a weird time before she kind of
Speaker 4: cleaned up her act there.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Satanic Panic, Julia mentioned this one earlier and
Speaker 2: I forgot to show it. I told you, Yes, Caine's
Speaker 2: favorite outfire from San Francisco versus the McMartin preschool owner.
Speaker 5: One fucking hundred. The dress that she wears too, is
Speaker 5: even like crazy. Oh yeah, similar, you know what I
Speaker 5: just thought of. Actually, did you guys watch they clone
Speaker 5: Tyrone on Netflix?
Speaker 2: Wait a, sue, who's cloning? I'm out of here? Folks
Speaker 2: are cloning folks here.
Speaker 5: Did you guys watch it?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 5: So basically it's a super conspiratial movie.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 5: Everybody else takes it whatever. But in the movie they
Speaker 5: talk about how the government has been poisoning the fried
Speaker 5: chicken in this town to make people more easily controlled
Speaker 5: and subdued. And so I just thought of that right now,
Speaker 5: because it's so interesting why they would use a fried
Speaker 5: chicken place. And it also has what's his name in
Speaker 5: it that everybody says was cloned?
Speaker 9: Uh, the.
Speaker 5: Fox Jamie Fox it's called They Cloned Tyrone.
Speaker 3: I've got movie. Actually a lot of.
Speaker 5: People says that it's trash and I love it. Oh
Speaker 5: my god, I could watch it over and over again.
Speaker 5: But so Jamie Fox is in it, and they talk
Speaker 5: about how yeah, that the government look a shadow government
Speaker 5: cloning conspiracy, and they're also poisoning the fried chicken in
Speaker 5: the town that they live in to make people more
Speaker 5: easily controlled and subdued.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie to you. This is this might
Speaker 2: be Caine's fairit movie Fried Chicken and cloning experiments.
Speaker 3: Let me let Me Chicken. Establishment to the mix is
Speaker 3: also a gus from Breaking Bad. I forgot the aim
Speaker 3: of the Chicken Place.
Speaker 6: Unt if anybody remembers out there, but that was a
Speaker 6: big part of Breaking Bad.
Speaker 2: Also well, I think with the regards to this film
Speaker 2: and the secret ingredient, from my take it was he
Speaker 2: was referred to as MSG, and the number one ingredient
Speaker 2: in Chick fil a Chicken is MSG, a highly apparently
Speaker 2: highly toxic neurotoxin het. He's a medical person. Now, she
Speaker 2: would she would know better.
Speaker 4: So I don't know if it's still in it, but
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 2: That man, look at the last time I looked at
Speaker 2: Chick fil A's nutrition, It's probably been about a year
Speaker 2: or so, but it's was still number one.
Speaker 5: Really, I thought Chick fil A was supposed to be
Speaker 5: the good guys of chicken.
Speaker 2: Well, let's be honest about the situation. The Tyson Corporation
Speaker 2: has been busted for cocaine trafficking. You at least investigated
Speaker 2: it for cocaine trafficking with their friends Slick Willy numerous times.
Speaker 5: Tyson is McDonald's though, right, I'm just saying that you
Speaker 5: they run the chickens, and they run all the chickens
Speaker 5: in America.
Speaker 2: They're Slick Willy's friends.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. I mean Chick fil A doesn't get
Speaker 5: to get off the hook. I guess.
Speaker 2: So we we we have anything else on that scene,
Speaker 2: particularly or just the ideas of the serial killer that
Speaker 2: is Harriet. We learned it later as Harriet's sister, and
Speaker 2: I will introduce to us here in a moment. But Rose,
Speaker 2: that is interesting name, and she's Christopher Plummer's daughter. I
Speaker 2: suppose that's kind of interesting.
Speaker 5: I do have something else to add about this scene,
Speaker 5: but it comes from.
Speaker 4: The mom.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, go ahead, So right.
Speaker 5: After the scene where the dad's talking to the detective
Speaker 5: guy Mike Myers is in the kitchen with his mom
Speaker 5: and she's like, oh, I got this juicer, and she's
Speaker 5: like talking about going on a diet. Do you remember
Speaker 5: the giant she said, the Garth Brooks diet. Right, So
Speaker 5: there's all this stuff coming out about Garth Brooks being
Speaker 5: a fucking sea serial killer. Yeah, Like that's also part
Speaker 5: of the program to Kill story is that Garth Brooks
Speaker 5: is probably a real life fucking serial killer. He has
Speaker 5: been killing people for a while now.
Speaker 3: Yeahs very he's very low.
Speaker 5: I mentioned it in my Nineties series though, because I
Speaker 5: love nineties country and Garth Brooks is definitely one of
Speaker 5: my faves. But he definitely is a serial killer in
Speaker 5: my opinion at this point.
Speaker 2: I mean remembers Gaines, right, and then he tried out
Speaker 2: for the San Diego Padres for to be a picture.
Speaker 2: After that, I think, I mean, the dude's done some
Speaker 2: wild ship bil pods.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that was the other thing I'm I noticed
Speaker 5: is that she mentioned she was going on some kind
Speaker 5: of Garth Brooks diet. After the dad just got done
Speaker 5: talking about all this other conspiracy shit. It's like like,
Speaker 5: out of all the celebrities you could have chosen, you
Speaker 5: picked Garth Brooks Diet Really Like, that's I know, right,
Speaker 5: oddly specific.
Speaker 2: Well, what if the Riders at that time, when Garth
Speaker 2: Brooks was definitely a singer at that time, what are
Speaker 2: the Riders at that time knew something that we are
Speaker 2: learning now right?
Speaker 5: Also that he said he said, all of these secret
Speaker 5: families meet up in Colorado.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the airport, the Denver Airport.
Speaker 2: Well, well, not only not only that Nelson or Lawrence
Speaker 2: Rockefeller had a ranch out there when he's naming these families,
Speaker 2: all of the Skinwalker ranch and all this alien agenda
Speaker 2: stuff we see from Stephen Greer that all comes from
Speaker 2: a ranch in northern Colorado and by Lawrence Rockefeller.
Speaker 5: Well that and Stanley Kubrick also took a lot of
Speaker 5: time to film in and around Colorado. John Benet Ramsey
Speaker 5: with her crazy fucking parents and all the eyes wide
Speaker 5: shutters of Colorado, I mean yes, and the Wonderland Raids
Speaker 5: also went through Colorado. So a lot of weird and
Speaker 5: I saw in the Chicken. The chicken comments, A lot
Speaker 5: of people are talking about the chicken still over here,
Speaker 5: they're talking about how it's code for uh child pornography
Speaker 5: stuff as well, So can't forget that connection with you.
Speaker 2: Forget that.
Speaker 3: Let me throw one more into the mix. That's a
Speaker 3: double j.
Speaker 2: John denver Man.
Speaker 5: John Denver is a whole other I've covered him at
Speaker 5: nauseum on my show. That that's a whole other conspiracy
Speaker 5: for another time.
Speaker 2: But yes, oh, I'm glad you said that. You covered
Speaker 2: Marilyn Monroe recently. Guests who lived in North Beach of
Speaker 2: the same area where this was filmed. This is where
Speaker 2: Joe Demagio is from and when she was married to
Speaker 2: Joe Demagio, they at home. They're in North Beach area,
Speaker 2: neighborhood of San Franisco. Joe.
Speaker 5: Whoa, and thanks for listening to that. By the way, JJ,
Speaker 5: sorry to get back to your email, but yeah, thank
Speaker 5: you for listenings. That's uh rabbit hole.
Speaker 2: Oh for sure. I hope you found my notes interesting.
Speaker 2: When I'm posing the question is this and this is
Speaker 2: what hiding and we're talking about on Eyes and Ears
Speaker 2: there night is when we unpack these parapolitical scandals and ideas,
Speaker 2: are we really just looking at the machinations of an
Speaker 2: old old family feud?
Speaker 5: Right exactly?
Speaker 2: Because because uh Old Rose connected to the Manson family,
Speaker 2: murdered herself for cousin Abigail Folder got murdered. There isn't
Speaker 2: that weird.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's to me, stuff just stacks up to
Speaker 5: be honestly too much for a coincidence. And we know this,
Speaker 5: but it's still, you know, disappointing when you when you
Speaker 5: find out about certain things. I'm reading a comment right
Speaker 5: now from Tara Jackson. It says, you know, her mom
Speaker 5: would freak out if she ever heard that John Denver
Speaker 5: was anything, but you know the icon that people think
Speaker 5: he is. Also somebody say, come on, girl, not Denver.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 5: If you heard my presentation on John Denver, you'd never
Speaker 5: fucking look at him the same.
Speaker 2: Sorry, John, John Dideldorf, you're.
Speaker 5: Right Duchendorf, whose father worked the area fifty one.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Hello, That's that's one of the classic Mike
Speaker 2: Myers scenes. And here when you're in the diner and
Speaker 2: they're talking about what are the scary scariest things to happen,
Speaker 2: He's like, hello.
Speaker 3: Maybe he was a pilot to New or Lake from Vegas.
Speaker 2: So what are the other character attributes for scenes that
Speaker 2: stood out to y'all as we wrapped us up for
Speaker 2: the closing scene we meet the serial killer. What are
Speaker 2: some of the other aspects or characters or the scenes
Speaker 2: that stuck out to y'all.
Speaker 4: I have one about their Tartans that they got married in.
Speaker 2: So, oh, well, that's a good time for me to
Speaker 2: play this scene. Can I play the scene first and
Speaker 2: then we'll unpack. This is where Caine blew up my
Speaker 2: brain hole before the show, telling me that this is
Speaker 2: Zach galifan Akis, that is the piper down in the
Speaker 2: scene in the wedding ceremony reception. And also here we
Speaker 2: see right after Charlie gets married to Harriet and he
Speaker 2: had decided she's not the serial killer from the Weekly
Speaker 2: World News Missus X, he one of the one of
Speaker 2: the people. One of the attributes from Missus X was
Speaker 2: she knew the song only You in like seven different languages.
Speaker 2: So this is the wedding reception with those Tartan gilts
Speaker 2: and the only U song. Ope, not quite yet almost
Speaker 2: in the standby police, I'm working on it, all right,
Speaker 2: there we go. Oh now I messed that up. All right,
Speaker 2: we'll get a going here. I had to the right spot,
Speaker 2: but do not be last.
Speaker 3: He gets ahead.
Speaker 2: There, let's get for the goal.
Speaker 3: Let's let's not make you gether. You walk my body,
Speaker 3: give me my come one day to laugh and no
Speaker 3: hog a follow.
Speaker 2: I'm not convinced that's galifan akus. The galvan atus look
Speaker 2: like I've been had.
Speaker 3: I'm all, you've got this. I didn't even have a paper.
Speaker 9: No, he's just we have a paper down.
Speaker 2: I don't repeat. Well, there's the I've been had. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's galp that's a galifan atus, look like, sir,
Speaker 2: I've been had, gotcha? So yeah, I'm I'm on to you.
Speaker 2: I'm on to you. I'll get you back for this. There,
Speaker 2: I'll get you back for this. I was excited that
Speaker 2: I miss something in this film. It was a gallop
Speaker 2: a thing. So the tartan uh you're talking about the the.
Speaker 4: Their skirts aka their skirts.
Speaker 2: But the color and pattern is is like a it's
Speaker 2: like a crists as a Scotland the color and the
Speaker 2: pattern you see there is very specific to a clan.
Speaker 4: Yes, the Mackenzie clan and the Mackenzies were actually part
Speaker 4: of the settlers of Scotland, North Scotland, Scotland especially and
Speaker 4: they were influenced highly into bigger places, basically elevated through
Speaker 4: the king, King Alexander, and gave them a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of power. So they're like a hugely powerful family over
Speaker 4: there in Scotland. So that is specifically, yeah, their's and
Speaker 4: they were originally Norman's just stuf y.
Speaker 2: I so what do you think you would choose the
Speaker 2: name McKenzie. Do you think maybe he's got some McKenzie heritage.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's very very interesting that he would choose that.
Speaker 4: There was all kind of speculation on it, but they said, oh,
Speaker 4: we think he actually is and I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I don't think any of that. I just think that
Speaker 4: possibly this is another top family. He's mentioning all these names.
Speaker 4: He's doing Getty's, he's doing this and that. Well, in
Speaker 4: Scotland they're the the Rothschild's. Basically they are actually hailed
Speaker 4: to the crown again.
Speaker 2: So interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's.
Speaker 4: Yep, basically for Scotland. So I thought that was interesting.
Speaker 2: That is interesting for sure.
Speaker 6: I wonder if what Tara Jackson says here. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: watch commentaries on movies. I wonder if there's a commentary
Speaker 6: on the DVD on this.
Speaker 3: Has anybody seen.
Speaker 2: That I'd be interested to know. I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 2: not tried to watch it. We're familiar with it, but
Speaker 2: I'll look for sure. So I know you mentioned the
Speaker 2: scene if you we have no other scenes or characters
Speaker 2: that we want to cover on at the moment before
Speaker 2: we get into the close of the film and closing
Speaker 2: statements on the matters, there was a scene that you
Speaker 2: mentioned earlier, Kane and a character that I'm interested in
Speaker 2: in the film, and that is the police captain who's
Speaker 2: in charge of Charlie's best friend, Anthony Lapalacha's character, the
Speaker 2: undercover detective that Charlie might work for Alan Arkins. So
Speaker 2: that is this scene right here. And I like to
Speaker 2: discuss Alan Arkin. But why why do you enjoy the scene?
Speaker 2: What does what does the scene do for you?
Speaker 3: I'll let the scenes speak for itself. But at the
Speaker 3: very end, is my favorite part of okay?
Speaker 2: Well, and you want to know what my favorite part is.
Speaker 3: My favorite?
Speaker 2: Well, no, sir, My favorite part is the surprise appearance
Speaker 2: by zach alipan Akis in the scene. I was like,
Speaker 2: what's that gallifan Akus doing in the scene? Trust me
Speaker 2: on this one.
Speaker 9: I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: Oh you want to hear the news.
Speaker 2: Well, here is the news. It seems that the old
Speaker 2: lady that confessed to the murder of Ralph Elliott has
Speaker 2: also confessed to a couple.
Speaker 3: Of other murders.
Speaker 9: I knew she would.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Well, she just confessed to the murders of
Speaker 3: Abraham Lincoln, Lawren g Harding and Julius Caesar.
Speaker 2: She's a not case.
Speaker 9: I'm not case.
Speaker 2: God, I gotta go.
Speaker 9: You screw this one up, pal, and you'll be writing
Speaker 9: pocket tickets for the rest of your life. You got that,
Speaker 9: Captain you Dad, you that was so much better, really terrific.
Speaker 9: It was fantastic.
Speaker 3: The beginning felt pretty good.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, it was great.
Speaker 3: I get too much in the end.
Speaker 9: No, no, no, no, it was really terrific.
Speaker 2: That's fantastic. I like the review. He's like, no, you
Speaker 2: did great, you did great.
Speaker 4: Just FYI, they just nailed me for a copyright on this.
Speaker 2: It was probably the song beforehand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't bring you back up. They just they take
Speaker 3: you out for a minute until you take the cobres
Speaker 3: stuff off.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's a great scene. King. What was your big
Speaker 2: but what was your big moment? There that you really
Speaker 2: enjoyed about that, just when.
Speaker 6: He's just like so unsure of himself and he's biting
Speaker 6: his finger after he slammed him against the wall.
Speaker 3: Right, he just played the role so Alan Ark in
Speaker 3: his movies going back to the seventies are just hilarious.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 6: There was one where it was like one of those
Speaker 6: my daughter is the Bride kind of movies, and then
Speaker 6: I think he was.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was in Schindler's list. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Steve Martin.
Speaker 6: Is another one when you when you want to talk
Speaker 6: about roles like these, He's just so powerful that he
Speaker 6: takes over the scene, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean? What they they do pay a
Speaker 3: lot of homage in movies back in the nineties to
Speaker 3: the greats that that there were.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if I may add some contact to that scene,
Speaker 2: I do appreciate you bringing that up. Is a good scene.
Speaker 2: But the part earlier in the film, though he's complaining
Speaker 2: to his boss, the police captain, he's not serious enough.
Speaker 2: He wants them to yell he's being too kind. He's
Speaker 2: got no police commissioner to curse to him about. He's
Speaker 2: got report too. He's like, well, actually I report to
Speaker 2: a commission. He's like, I don't even report to an
Speaker 2: actual person, so he's I couldn't be mad at one person.
Speaker 2: You know, that whole dialogue is just Mike Myers brilliant level,
Speaker 2: brilliant level of comedy. I think brought to this film
Speaker 2: is that diety.
Speaker 3: It's funny and its political satire at the same time.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, And you know they were.
Speaker 6: Pointing out how ridiculous it was then and look at
Speaker 6: Newsom in California now, you know, so as extreme as
Speaker 6: it could get.
Speaker 2: That's for sure, That's for sure. And they work for
Speaker 2: the Getties. The Getty's a part of the pentaverc So
Speaker 2: we see Alan Arkin. You know, he's a pretty legendary dude,
Speaker 2: right and acting. Do you know his dad, Julia, you'll
Speaker 2: appreciate this fun fact. His father wrote a song with
Speaker 2: Three Dog Night. You know who Three Dog Night is, right,
Speaker 2: of course, they're they're infamous for being associated Ramos, associated
Speaker 2: right with the four and the four murders, right right, Yes,
Speaker 2: another Laurel Canyon famous incident. Right. Yeah, So his father
Speaker 2: was David Arkin, a teacher, painter, writer and lyricist. But
Speaker 2: he did in fact write songs with Three Dog Night.
Speaker 2: In fact, Arkins's most memorable song writing contribution was creating
Speaker 2: the lyrics to the song black and White with music
Speaker 2: by Earl Robinson in nineteen fifty four. The song was
Speaker 2: written to celebrate the United States Supreme Court decision of
Speaker 2: Brown versus the Board of Education, and have been recorded
Speaker 2: by Pete Seeger, Sammy Davis, Junior, Greyhound, the Mayeznes and
Speaker 2: Three Dog Night. Do you know who else is a
Speaker 2: co writer on that song? To Jimmick Page, a lot
Speaker 2: of curly stuff going on in that song, and then around.
Speaker 3: Those guys got Jimmy involved.
Speaker 2: Now back to the fifties with Alan Arkins. Dad, this
Speaker 2: is long before the who So that's a little fun
Speaker 2: fact that they got him in here, right.
Speaker 3: Jimmy Cage was a studio musician, very famous for decades
Speaker 3: before he did like Zeppelin.
Speaker 2: You mean like a you mean like a kind of
Speaker 2: Phil spector studio musician, very.
Speaker 4: Likely speaking of missus X, don't you find it kind
Speaker 4: of very mk ultra e that she just knows Russian
Speaker 4: and starts popping off in Russian? Like didn't I caught
Speaker 4: very mk ultraspy Lady Vice?
Speaker 6: Well, have about a little Stanley Cooper reference there for
Speaker 6: Miss Julie's right hand man from Clockwork Orange Stanley Cooper
Speaker 6: and the adaptation of Clockwork Orange, where English and Russian
Speaker 6: were combined as one language, which makes it an almost
Speaker 6: impossible book to read.
Speaker 3: It's so much Russian there that you know, but you
Speaker 3: have the Karuba juice bar and our milk bar, and
Speaker 3: you know very little Russian words I can remember. But the.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it was Schindler's lists list. That's a
Speaker 2: good point. You're bringing up a lot of the history
Speaker 2: of that city. I mean, there's a lot of Russian
Speaker 2: stuff that goes on there. I think, you know, there
Speaker 2: may be more to the former husband that was killed
Speaker 2: of Harriet's by her sister, and then.
Speaker 4: She was into the she was into martial arts and
Speaker 4: it was more than the husband. She said, she did
Speaker 4: it too.
Speaker 2: Yes, no, there right.
Speaker 3: So also Chinese influence in San Francisco very much.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Let's meet the killer because she seemed like
Speaker 2: a mind controlled assassin right with her.
Speaker 3: No, that's good, that's good. I like that.
Speaker 2: So we meet we finally we see Harriet's sister throughout
Speaker 2: the film intermittently, but we finally learned at the end
Speaker 2: when Charlie's on the honeymoon at that dun Dunsmore house
Speaker 2: that that it's not Harriet that he's convinced of. It's
Speaker 2: it's surprising because he locks Harry in the closet and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, the sister comes out with the axe, right,
Speaker 2: and that's where we meet. We meet Rose the axe murderer. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Sally m oh, this is a class right.
Speaker 6: That whole rooftop seed is just balls out hilariously.
Speaker 5: You know when I knew the sister was the axe murderer,
Speaker 5: And mind you, this is the first time I ever
Speaker 5: watched the movie. I always try to guess the end
Speaker 5: to see if I'm right, But I knew the sister
Speaker 5: was the axe murderer when she offered him breakfast and
Speaker 5: then just gave him a bowl of froot loops. I
Speaker 5: knew it was her. I was like, this witch is
Speaker 5: fucking insane. She was like, what do you want some
Speaker 5: fresh grambled eggs, pancakes, shrimp and grits, things, a fresh coffee,
Speaker 5: this and that, and then she's like, oh, I didn't
Speaker 5: have any of that, just kidding, here's a bull of
Speaker 5: froot loops. I was like she's froot loops. She's the killer.
Speaker 5: She's the fucking killer. And I was right as soon
Speaker 5: as I saw her at the end of the movie,
Speaker 5: I was like, fucking knew it. Rose is crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a pretty wild term events there. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a shame along twist ale events, right.
Speaker 2: And you again, you know it's all very you know,
Speaker 2: it's not really rooted in that history they give you,
Speaker 2: but it's all they give you, this beat poet history
Speaker 2: of the whole place, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: And also, can I just say it never made sense
Speaker 5: to me since the ending of the movie was that
Speaker 5: the sister really did kill all of her husbands. It
Speaker 5: never made sense to me where they had to have
Speaker 5: the girl best friend named Ralph and not explain why
Speaker 5: the fuck her name would be Ralph. Like, she's clearly married,
Speaker 5: she was married to a guy named Ralph.
Speaker 2: So why right, yeah, yeah, yeah, why have.
Speaker 5: To incorporate the female friend that's named Ralph and then
Speaker 5: not give any backstory to that whatsoever?
Speaker 2: To me, solid point, that's a solid cause, Like.
Speaker 5: Why was that necessary? Because we now know she really
Speaker 5: was married to a guy named Ralph and she's like
Speaker 5: calling his name out sexually while she's sleeping, and then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, this weird female friend named Ralph
Speaker 5: comes in. It's like, unless your name is Ralph Fina
Speaker 5: or some shit like that, get the fuck out of
Speaker 5: the movie. I don't like you. Why are you here?
Speaker 4: Well, and the part where they were in bed, that's
Speaker 4: it's like right by that scene Julia's talking about and
Speaker 4: she's like, so I could just do anything to you
Speaker 4: and stick a needle in your ear and all this
Speaker 4: weird stuff, and I'm like, Okay, that's getting pretty out there.
Speaker 4: But then after that, like they're outside, it shows them
Speaker 4: kind of messing around later and then he's talking about
Speaker 4: like evil, like he says it like doctor Evil, and
Speaker 4: then he's yeah, but he's the fruit of the devil.
Speaker 4: And then he says, let's go dance in the night.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, that's pretty satanic for just a little Where.
Speaker 2: Were they standing when they did that? Where were they standing?
Speaker 2: Because again but no, but they were in like a
Speaker 2: park because yeah, because you gotta think though, because this
Speaker 2: is San Francisco. This is the site of the first
Speaker 2: public Satanic church in nineteen sixty six, right.
Speaker 4: It was weird.
Speaker 5: I think that was a weird nod, and then she
Speaker 5: was like, well, what would be brutal to someone else
Speaker 5: might not be brutal.
Speaker 2: It like the whole you are to make some good points.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring that scene up because please continue, because
Speaker 2: that's a good scene. Oh bring it up, No go,
Speaker 2: please continue though, that's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 6: It.
Speaker 5: Well, let's just say, let's just say, at the end
Speaker 5: of the movie, we realized Harriet really isn't the axe
Speaker 5: murderer and she's just a regular girl. She was fucking weird.
Speaker 5: She was weird enough to not want to be in
Speaker 5: a relationship with just on the face for being a
Speaker 5: fucking weirdo.
Speaker 6: No, they literally build the character as to make you
Speaker 6: completely suspect of her. She's so sweet on one side
Speaker 6: that she wants to six up in your years. And
Speaker 6: then the pot plot twist is obviously supposed to be
Speaker 6: he still.
Speaker 5: Asks her to marry him, even after she said the
Speaker 5: weird stick of needle in your ear comment.
Speaker 4: It is like, just on that alone, I wouldn't be
Speaker 4: pushing you off a bridge.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, anything to you while you're sleeping, all right,
Speaker 5: my bitch, I'm not fucking sticking around to find out
Speaker 5: what that's most to me.
Speaker 2: I don't want to wise screw that hell, because these
Speaker 2: folks were there too, on the non muppetized version of
Speaker 2: these folks were there too along with a click in
Speaker 2: the Church of Satan and Antona Bay, all in San
Speaker 2: Francisco at this time, right, you know, in the late
Speaker 2: sixties there, right, So again this is looking at a
Speaker 2: nod of history. You know, you all bring up some
Speaker 2: good points about these fruits of the devil, as he
Speaker 2: puts it, right, And I got that scene for us
Speaker 2: right here, if y'all don't mind a play.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nice. Nice.
Speaker 2: Evidently you think of me as fast forward to that
Speaker 2: actual portion of the scene, otherwise they're going to probably
Speaker 2: strike us again there, think it's right there.
Speaker 4: Word I mean, what's brutal to one person?
Speaker 3: For example? How many people have you brutally murdered?
Speaker 14: Brutle is a very subjective word. I meant to one
Speaker 14: person might be totally reasonable to somebody.
Speaker 7: Else when they're in bed, they're like in bed, Oh
Speaker 7: the pin part really evil?
Speaker 2: Good college that was after that?
Speaker 3: Do you think of me as a woman friend.
Speaker 11: Being nice?
Speaker 14: Nothing, Charlie and then one bad thing you've done.
Speaker 3: Things.
Speaker 2: That's the presidio, that's the presididge, that's the presidio. They
Speaker 2: are on Persidi Army base there, really, I thought, so
Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure before I said that that
Speaker 2: you would.
Speaker 3: Say it was evil, like it's the shrits of the
Speaker 3: devil evil.
Speaker 2: For example, are you all kidding me?
Speaker 3: And then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, wait a second, that they're standing right
Speaker 2: there and that's the presidio and I'll pull up the
Speaker 2: map to prove that in the mat while we watched
Speaker 2: the rest of the scene. But that's just blowing my
Speaker 2: brain at the moment because uh yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sample JJ is that on the Oakland sid order.
Speaker 2: No, I'll bring I'll bring a map.
Speaker 14: Bootle is a very subjective word. I mean, what's bootle
Speaker 14: to one person might be totally reasonable to somebody else.
Speaker 2: It's it's actually Lucas Films. That's that's the portion of
Speaker 2: of the presidio that Lucasfilms took over. By the way,
Speaker 2: just saying.
Speaker 5: No, no coincidence there, I'm sure.
Speaker 2: No, But I'm gonna bringing a picture of that view here.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's I'll share her exactly where that's it. Again,
Speaker 2: I'm a bootleg my my folks out there, My dudes
Speaker 2: and some of their folks jokingly call me Joshua Norton,
Speaker 2: the Emperor Joshua Norton, in famous character out there that
Speaker 2: just kind of floats around as always, you know, just
Speaker 2: floating around people's houses and partying places and whatnot. If
Speaker 2: you all familiar with that legend of San Francisco, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, that's a great one. I just uh gotta
Speaker 2: take a quick detour on that one then, and uh
Speaker 2: introduce y'all to Emperor Norton. He was the Emperor of
Speaker 2: America and Mexico. According to him, he created, he wore
Speaker 2: a uniform. He he like I said, he made his
Speaker 2: own money. He the you know, places of San Francisco
Speaker 2: would just get him food and stuff like that and
Speaker 2: take his his currency that he would make. Folks would
Speaker 2: just let him stay at their homes and stuff. The
Speaker 2: entire city shut down when he died, like he like,
Speaker 2: you know, a tremendous amount of people decided to come. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Norton the first Emperor of the United States commonly knows
Speaker 2: Emperor Norton secondary title Protector of Mexico in eighteen sixty six.
Speaker 2: He lived from eighteen eighteen to eighteen eighty and from
Speaker 2: eighteen sixty to eighteen eighty he lived on the streets
Speaker 2: of San Francisco, and no one really knew where he
Speaker 2: came from or his backstory. I mean, there's claims, but
Speaker 2: when he died, I think it was like ten thousand
Speaker 2: people came to his funeral. Interesting character, one of the
Speaker 2: many aspects I appreciated the haystpory of San Francisco. But yeah,
Speaker 2: he uh yeah, ten thousand people. You know, the next
Speaker 2: day of the San Francisco Chronicle herbcane beating the guy
Speaker 2: invented that, and we saw the scene from earlier there
Speaker 2: at the Chronicle under the headline whatever, that says that
Speaker 2: some ten thousand people had come to view the Emperor's
Speaker 2: body in advance of the two PM funeral. So that
Speaker 2: was even the funeral. That's what I'm saying. This dude
Speaker 2: was a you know, a very beloved character out there,
Speaker 2: and he was an interesting, uh eccentric you know. Again,
Speaker 2: he made his own money and declared himself the King
Speaker 2: of America and Mexico Emperor. But the a lot of
Speaker 2: interesting characters in San Francisco. But nonetheless, what we saw
Speaker 2: there was.
Speaker 4: With the channel again.
Speaker 2: Damn it?
Speaker 3: What was that going the People's Church? Wasn't that what
Speaker 3: it was called? In San Francisco?
Speaker 2: From Dude TV uh, Jude War's my car, Dude, War's
Speaker 2: my car?
Speaker 3: Jim Jones, where's my car?
Speaker 5: Dude, People's Temple, People's Temple.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: I was just going to keep stone wall stone facing
Speaker 2: the steadwall until until Julia answered.
Speaker 8: You.
Speaker 5: You knew I would would bail eventually.
Speaker 2: I know you were to come in there and answer.
Speaker 2: I just want to keep giving them the wrong.
Speaker 3: Answer, you know, real cool aide flavoring. Did I hear
Speaker 3: that from you?
Speaker 5: Probably?
Speaker 2: OK, I was gonna say, Julie is an expert in
Speaker 2: these things. I mean, I know much about one up
Speaker 2: my brain a couple of times. So here we go.
Speaker 2: We just saw this scene right there, boom, look at that.
Speaker 2: Why are they on the presidio?
Speaker 5: Probably because they were sucking and fucking with Michael.
Speaker 2: A Quinto Right well, they're talking about dancing with Satan
Speaker 2: in the night on the presiding.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 5: That's why I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That about tomorrow. Are you serious? First of all, I'm
Speaker 2: not offended. You don't know the background of the Perciti.
Speaker 2: I'm offended you didn't listen to my show last Thursday
Speaker 2: after you told me you did. I got a bone
Speaker 2: to pick with you, sir, got a bone to pick
Speaker 2: with you. Now. It's uh, it's an infamous it's an infamous,
Speaker 2: uh Satanist scandal of an army daycare rapes that are
Speaker 2: infamous for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 5: No, that's that's that's real.
Speaker 2: No, I'm no, I'm saying I'm messing with Canes Air Base.
Speaker 2: It was an army it was an army base. Actually, Well,
Speaker 2: tune in tomorrow night, folks, if you want to hear
Speaker 2: more about the Presidio daycare scandal. I'll be reading the
Speaker 2: law enforcement documents that implicated Michael Akinos, the guy from
Speaker 2: Fort Bragg Special Forces syops guy dude tying into all
Speaker 2: that Idaho stuff and Idaho contra in Fort Bragg. But
Speaker 2: tune in tomorrow for Operation GCD Thursdays, where I'll be
Speaker 2: unpacking more of these ideas and again reading the law
Speaker 2: enforcement documents of this Presidio daycare scandal involving the non
Speaker 2: muppetized version of this guy that's at that same base
Speaker 2: that we just again' see all blown my mind. I
Speaker 2: didn't even pick up on that until you just said
Speaker 2: something about the Devil's and the dance, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, that was the presidio. It clicked as
Speaker 2: soon as you said that. I'm like, I've seen again.
Speaker 2: I've seen this so many times. That's what I'm happy
Speaker 2: we have these discussions, and I appreciate your all time attention,
Speaker 2: conversation and participations and the folks of the interwebs. But yeah,
Speaker 2: this is I mean, I can watch this a bunch
Speaker 2: of times and I never put all that together for
Speaker 2: whatever reason, whatever reason.
Speaker 3: I mean, you all, you also have to have to
Speaker 3: say it does have a beautiful view despite what happened,
Speaker 3: There is a lovely view.
Speaker 2: Some of the most beautiful views.
Speaker 8: Bro.
Speaker 3: You know another movie they moved. They used that in
Speaker 3: I realize is at the about the midpoint of the
Speaker 3: movie The Interns. Has anybody seen that very sexually kind
Speaker 3: of charged conversation. Nobody's sen the end using the intern I.
Speaker 2: Have the Interns, the Interns, the Internship?
Speaker 3: Did I say, Did I say R?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Might I might be saying, no, it's
Speaker 2: the Internship.
Speaker 3: People's church, It's the people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm a fight in Phoenix.
Speaker 3: Woo. One minute, you're in a blender. That's this tall.
Speaker 2: What lives? Oh, that's a good one. No, that's uh,
Speaker 2: that's a that's a Silicon valley just south of just
Speaker 2: south of the h the San Francisco metropolitan area. So
Speaker 2: if I may, it is I may offer some folks
Speaker 2: some closing thoughts in your moment. I may bring us
Speaker 2: in for a landing here with my uh cocaine bob connections,
Speaker 2: if you will, if you all don't mind, but I
Speaker 2: do want to mention some of the.
Speaker 4: One thing before you go. JJ that lady that played
Speaker 4: miss whatever.
Speaker 2: Let me put a let me put a book in
Speaker 2: on Cane's common real quick. Yeah, I agree with you, sir.
Speaker 2: This is some of the most beautiful views I've ever
Speaker 2: seen where this skeleton sitting. I have about nine different
Speaker 2: shots to be and me and my dudes there, my
Speaker 2: my brothers, because again this is my favorite view looking
Speaker 2: over the city. So if you looked down here to
Speaker 2: the right, that's where the photography we're just looking from.
Speaker 2: At the other end of that, you know, the opposite
Speaker 2: end from the hill here in the Golden Gate Bridge.
Speaker 2: That's the preceding that. We were just looking at right
Speaker 2: there for relatives.
Speaker 3: So it's like an open area kind of thing there
Speaker 3: astat or something.
Speaker 2: Well that there's just a park up. There's just a
Speaker 2: park like a bluff. I just it's the you know
Speaker 2: that whoever did that painting of the garyful Dad, they
Speaker 2: had it right, because that's the best view in the city.
Speaker 6: On the side where the skeleton is to the right.
Speaker 6: To his right, there's a really killer video of a
Speaker 6: surfer because there's a breaking wave there and he's there's
Speaker 6: a great white shark circling around him and all the
Speaker 6: people in this beach like.
Speaker 3: Shark and he just take his board and hits the
Speaker 3: because it's probably so hard to get there. He has
Speaker 3: to work all day, and there's these good ways. It's like,
Speaker 3: that's not a stupid shark.
Speaker 2: And if folks do want to go to the Presidio
Speaker 2: and they want to do some campgrounds action at the Presidio,
Speaker 2: legally speaking, they do have a campground there, I highly
Speaker 2: recommend Rob Hill Campground. In the view from this area
Speaker 2: is it's pretty ridiculous. It's pretty stupid. Let me just
Speaker 2: give you a quick quick peeking what that.
Speaker 5: Looks like here, I ever want to go because all
Speaker 5: I'd be thinking about is all the little kids getting raped.
Speaker 2: What you don't want to camp right here?
Speaker 3: Beautiful? It really is so beautiful.
Speaker 5: I mean there are many beautiful places in Oregon too.
Speaker 5: I'll check out where they feelgoonies. Oh wait, those kids
Speaker 5: got raped to Yeah, the only.
Speaker 2: Can we go somewhere without kid rape? But I'm not
Speaker 2: sure that we can.
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, is like anywhere I want to go,
Speaker 5: it's like kids get raped here because not in my house.
Speaker 2: So I guess I'm safe here. I guess I can't
Speaker 2: go outside. I go to the grocery store or the
Speaker 2: McDonald's or wherever else around town. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It sounds like those are hot spots, that kind of activity.
Speaker 2: Dude R Kelly, when he gets out of prison for
Speaker 2: getting indicted up there in Chicago, initially for dadling kids,
Speaker 2: he goes back to the rock and roll McDonald's they
Speaker 2: call it. They're in Chicago. He goes back to that
Speaker 2: Barry Sam McDonald where'd victimized no fewer than three victims.
Speaker 5: See, that's what I'm saying. That's his first Sime Donald
Speaker 5: is not even safe.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. That's why I was bringing up R.
Speaker 2: Kelly's first stop was back to rock and roll McDonald's,
Speaker 2: dialing more kids. He just got out, dude, he just
Speaker 2: literally an hour earlier. He posted bond some lady who
Speaker 2: owned daycare centers to a one hundred thousand dollars bond
Speaker 2: for him to get out of initially. Then they go
Speaker 2: to a rock and roll McDonald's. How dark does that get?
Speaker 2: That's not saying that's not the tail rats and I here, folks,
Speaker 2: that's yeah, that's true story. So let me close it
Speaker 2: out here with my favorite boot Cocaine Bob connection. What
Speaker 2: film will not be complete without Cocaine Bob's friends being involved? Right?
Speaker 9: Excuse me? So, I'm with the San Francisco Police DEPARTM.
Speaker 9: This is official police business. I would like to commenty
Speaker 9: of this vehicle. No, what do you mean?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: I happen to know for a fact that you don't
Speaker 2: have the right to commentate my vehicle.
Speaker 9: Please can I commentate this vehicle?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I appreciated that scene from and still do from a
Speaker 2: constitution rights perspective, because he does not have a right
Speaker 2: to comment to his vehicle. But that is in fact
Speaker 2: Charles Grodin who got his first role cursy of old
Speaker 2: Cocaine Bob Evans and that Roman Polanski Cocaine Bob satanic shit,
Speaker 2: shit show of cinema Rosemary's Baby you played, you played
Speaker 2: the psychiatrist.
Speaker 5: Alright, alright, I see where you're going with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So from it seems like including y'all bringing us
Speaker 2: my attention with the presidio, Satanism, dancing in the night,
Speaker 2: being the devil, evil shit, and and killing folks. We're
Speaker 2: talking about killing folks in that scene in a movie
Speaker 2: about serial killers with nods to the Zodiac. I could
Speaker 2: not be more surprised than I do. Appreciate I'll bringing
Speaker 2: that to my attention because as you can see from
Speaker 2: the Satanism stuff going on there in these connections here,
Speaker 2: it seems like that's an undertone to the film. But
Speaker 2: if I can pass it around to all of y'all
Speaker 2: for round tables, I appreciate you all join me for
Speaker 2: the discussion and from each one of y'all blow my
Speaker 2: brain holes, except for you know, the fake one with
Speaker 2: Galfin Atkis, which I'll get you, sir. I will get
Speaker 2: you for that one.
Speaker 4: But so you guys know, Nancy cut her finger off
Speaker 4: in the filming of the show, and they had.
Speaker 2: To read yeah, what so, if I may pass it
Speaker 2: around for closing savements, Nancy Travis cut off her finger
Speaker 2: in the film, right, yep, we'll.
Speaker 4: Go reattached the tip. Yeah wild so Yes, I am
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Speaker 4: that's it for me. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Can you give us a closing no, thank you, Heidi,
Speaker 2: Thank you man. Can you give us a closing statement
Speaker 2: on the film or the discussion?
Speaker 4: Oh, definitely, I definitely think you guys are right. There's
Speaker 4: a lot of undertones here that are evil, like the
Speaker 4: devil just like he said that. Definitely Well.
Speaker 2: I appreciate your time. Hei and Julia. Do you have
Speaker 2: pleased any plugs or any closing statements on tonight's discussion? Again,
Speaker 2: thank you for joining me here to get a little GCD.
Speaker 5: I always love getting a little g c D because
Speaker 5: I watch movies I probably would never have known about before. Uh,
Speaker 5: definitely enjoyed watching this one for the first time. It's
Speaker 5: gonna go up there in my in my list of faves. Actually,
Speaker 5: I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, to show your your son to in the future,
Speaker 2: right right, Yeah, yeah. I showed it to my son
Speaker 2: when he was like six or seven, probably maybe a
Speaker 2: little too young, but you know I did. I definitely
Speaker 2: enjoyed showing you know, sharing this film with him, my man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's so many of the classics, you
Speaker 5: know that I would want my kids to to watch
Speaker 5: like I did, and this is definitely probably going to
Speaker 5: be up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's riding in the comedy for me that I appreciate,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like that's like amongst other
Speaker 2: films like this is when I was introduced to my son,
Speaker 2: Like you got to appreciate the film, you know, these
Speaker 2: are the aspects you know, and discussing with and doing
Speaker 2: our own film review, mine and his film review. You know,
Speaker 2: I discussed it with him, you know, these are the
Speaker 2: aspects that I appreciate. What are the aspects that he appreciates.
Speaker 2: We would do this about a lot of films, but
Speaker 2: I would always emphasize, you know, the comedy and the writing,
Speaker 2: you know, these are always my favorite. And this is
Speaker 2: up there at the top of that list, right, Oh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean some of the ones we've covered already,
Speaker 5: like Back to the Future obviously, the Golden Child with
Speaker 5: Eddie Murphy. These are all movies that I grew up watching,
Speaker 5: and so I was going to tie it in, uh
Speaker 5: to our Back to the Future conversations with this movie.
Speaker 5: It's all about the power of pus. It's very simplistic.
Speaker 5: I enjoyed the storyline. The comedy was on point. I
Speaker 5: do have Cosmic Peach podcasts. Wherever you listen to podcasts,
Speaker 5: send me an email if you want to work with me.
Speaker 5: Jj I do want to talk to you about a
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Speaker 5: upcoming episode, if you'll have me, And thanks so much.
Speaker 5: This has been another great one.
Speaker 2: Program serial Killers. You're talking my language, ma'am, so for sure,
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Speaker 3: Sir?
Speaker 2: I appreciate your time joining me here to gain GCD
Speaker 2: here tonight and uh, we'll get a little GCD. We've
Speaker 2: got a lot of GCD I think, be quite honest
Speaker 2: with you, and uh, what are your closing statements? Any
Speaker 2: plugs of pursins you want to plug?
Speaker 3: I'm king b I'm kind of a big deal.
Speaker 2: Play us out, JJ, what does that mean? Play us out?
Speaker 2: But anyway's up here. It's the bill O'Reilly clipp where
Speaker 2: he loses his mind when he can't figure out what
Speaker 2: place out means. Now, I appreciate everyone's time and attention,
Speaker 2: and again, folks, to join us here tonight to get
Speaker 2: the little GCD you know, logic, get real GCD again.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm completely blown up my brain hole about these details.
Speaker 2: If you want to hear more about my thoughts on
Speaker 2: the real activities such as the presidio of the child
Speaker 2: kid diddling the Satanic business, tune in tomorrow night at
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Speaker 2: rumbles YouTube and the twixters and talking. I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 2: be falling up on this topic because I want to
Speaker 2: understand what else is going on here with some maybe
Speaker 2: the writing staff. I didn't you know who knows about
Speaker 2: that presidio being that deep and you know, I know
Speaker 2: they had this scandal, but I mean, there's got to be.
Speaker 3: A greater It takes a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: work to have subtext like that.
Speaker 2: You're right, that's what I'm saying. It's not Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: not a passing scandal that happened five years before this
Speaker 2: movie was written, right, I just don't see that as
Speaker 2: being the connection. I don't know, you know my thoughts there.
Speaker 2: But and then, uh, for all these Charles Manson and
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Speaker 2: through all Charlie Charlie Manson here. But I uh, I
Speaker 2: always enjoy talking about those characters. And we'll, uh, we'll
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Speaker 2: the vice president, That's correct. I'm not bombing anybody.
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