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And as we always do on Mondays at 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,159 two o'clock, we chat with ap Dylon. 12 00:00:33,359 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: She is a reporter for the North State Journal. 13 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,759 Speaker 2: You can read her work at nsjonline dot com and 14 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,799 you can read her substack newsletter. 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,679 Speaker 1: It's called more to the Story. Ap. Welcome, How are you? 16 00:00:45,679 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Pete? How are you doing? 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing well as well, not great, but almost great. 18 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,520 Almost So that's good enough. All right. 19 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: So let's first look west. Let's look to the mountains. 20 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,119 The Asheville City Council you read pored in a very 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,959 lengthy piece over the weekend. Millions of tax dollars have 22 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,640 been funneled towards reparations in Ashville, and more could be spent. 23 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,040 So I guess what. Tomorrow, They've got their city council 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,640 meeting and they're going to be reviewing a final report 25 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:20,519 from the Community Reparations Commission. Yes. 26 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:28,439 Speaker 3: Yes, this document includes various ways that are basically for 27 00:01:28,519 --> 00:01:33,319 the black community only to access housing, to improve education. 28 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,719 It deals with public policing and those sorts of things. 29 00:01:37,799 --> 00:01:39,840 And there were a number of things packed in there 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,920 in this report, and also it's draft report that came 31 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,879 out ahead of this a year ago that could be problematic. 32 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:52,680 It has things embedded in it like DEI culturally relevant pedagogy, 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:02:00,239 sensitivity training being required for employees of the city. There 34 00:02:00,239 --> 00:02:03,840 could be some civil rights violations in there, you know, 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:09,599 dedicated transportation systems for just the black expectant mothers I believe. 36 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: I believe that's called pregnant people ap pregnant people, right. 37 00:02:14,719 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 3: Thank you. 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 4: You know. 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 3: Also, the one that really stuck out to me was 40 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,319 the affordable housing specifically for black populations. And they talk 41 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,879 about using block grants, federal block grants for that. 42 00:02:26,039 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: That's a big no no, Yeah, that's not good. 43 00:02:30,039 --> 00:02:30,319 Speaker 4: Yeah. 44 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,159 Speaker 3: So the legality of all these questions, you know, kind 45 00:02:33,199 --> 00:02:36,120 of percolated up on Twitter or ex as. It's called 46 00:02:36,159 --> 00:02:40,240 now and the Assistant Attorney General Hermiet Dillon for the 47 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,560 Office of SILLOVL Right said that if the folks in 48 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,039 Wencom County, we'll be hearing from us tonight. If they 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:49,120 pass illegal race based programs, they will find out we're 50 00:02:49,159 --> 00:02:52,199 serious about ending the EI racism in America. And it 51 00:02:52,199 --> 00:02:55,080 turns out she did send a letter to them, which 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,960 was confirmed by a gentleman named Matt van Swell, who's 53 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,120 been very vocal in them part of the state following 54 00:03:01,199 --> 00:03:05,280 Hurricane Helen. He's garnered a lot of followers, and House 55 00:03:05,319 --> 00:03:09,599 Speaker Dustin Hall also spoke up on and retweeted Harmet 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,919 Dillon's post NX staying at woke policies have no place 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,400 in NC. I'm directing the gov Ops Task Force to 58 00:03:16,439 --> 00:03:20,240 investigate city councils statewide to ensure taxpayer dollars aren't being 59 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:21,800 wasted on DEI racism. 60 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, think about it. 61 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: They're saying, if you're a black person, we're going to 62 00:03:26,439 --> 00:03:31,319 give you this housing voucher over a white person just 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,159 because you're black. That's I mean, that's essentially what they're 64 00:03:35,199 --> 00:03:38,240 saying that they're going to do in a form of reparations, 65 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,400 which look and I've when I worked up there, I 66 00:03:40,439 --> 00:03:46,520 talked about this at the time, like the dislocation of residents, 67 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,319 and this happened all over America for various reasons at 68 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,400 various times. Happened near in Charlotte during quote urban renewal 69 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,919 that was under a Democrat administration where they leveled the 70 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,719 Brooklyn neighborhood. But in Asheville there was a predominantly poor 71 00:04:01,919 --> 00:04:07,439 area of the downtown area and they seized all the 72 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,680 land and they booted everybody out because it was like 73 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:13,680 the drain field basically where all of the runoff would collect, 74 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:16,319 so like the sewerage and all that stuff, and so 75 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,920 they cleared it all out. But actually more white poor 76 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,959 people were dislocated than black poor people from that area 77 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,240 and they weren't going to get any reparations for that. 78 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:28,160 And my view on it is if you got a 79 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:32,480 government taking your property and you didn't get compensated for it, 80 00:04:32,879 --> 00:04:36,040 then I think then yes, you should get compensated. You 81 00:04:36,079 --> 00:04:39,240 want to call that a reparation, I think that's totally 82 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,839 legit because that was an illegal taking. But this idea 83 00:04:42,879 --> 00:04:45,639 that now you're going to give somebody who maybe moved 84 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:49,279 into the Ashville area a decade ago, and because they're black, 85 00:04:49,319 --> 00:04:52,279 you're going to give them some extra money over some 86 00:04:52,399 --> 00:04:57,800 poor white person. Is it is clearly raised based and 87 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,360 clearly illegal. I mean, in my view, I don't know 88 00:05:00,399 --> 00:05:01,920 any other way around it. And it seems like the 89 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:02,839 Feds believe it too. 90 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well see what comes from that. They've been warned, 91 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,720 and you know, they just settled that racial discrimination lawsuit 92 00:05:11,079 --> 00:05:13,480 right ef using membership to suit to the Human Rights 93 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,480 Council to anyone who wasn't of a minority race. 94 00:05:18,399 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was, if I recall correctly, that was 95 00:05:20,959 --> 00:05:23,759 I think it was former Councilman Carl Mumpower who had 96 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,480 applied to be on that commission and they said no, 97 00:05:29,199 --> 00:05:34,399 and then they kept the open application period. They kept 98 00:05:34,399 --> 00:05:37,040 it open for like an extra year or something because 99 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,879 they couldn't find anybody to sit on the panel. 100 00:05:40,439 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: They and so. 101 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: Obviously they didn't want him on there because of his race, 102 00:05:44,079 --> 00:05:46,360 and so he sued and he won. You would think 103 00:05:46,399 --> 00:05:48,120 that would be sort of a kick in the pants 104 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,160 for them. Now you report in your piece here this 105 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,160 is at your sub stack. More to the story. The 106 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:59,680 announcement said the city Council's appropriation was quote aligned with 107 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,839 a July fourteenth, twenty twenty vote resulting in a resolution 108 00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:08,319 supporting community reparations for Black Ashville. And of course black 109 00:06:08,399 --> 00:06:13,079 is capitalized because that's reparations as well. And so I 110 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,439 think though that you missed an important point here, which 111 00:06:15,519 --> 00:06:19,240 was that this was this was a fantastic way for 112 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,199 the Asheville City government to get good pr during the 113 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,519 fiery but mostly peaceful Summer of Love. I mean, that 114 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,120 really was the benefit. And I think you just completely ignored. 115 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 3: The George Floyd riot, right, Yeah, No, this was one 116 00:06:34,079 --> 00:06:38,319 of those reactions to the George Floyd riots. And you know, it's. 117 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,439 Speaker 2: They got so much coverage for it. Remember, I mean 118 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,199 they were they were celebrated, they were going on all 119 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,360 sorts of they were on MSNBC, they were making all 120 00:06:47,439 --> 00:06:50,560 of the rounds for the for their sensitivity foot. 121 00:06:50,439 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 3: Washington thing that went on, you know, I mean, whatever. 122 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, And that really is what it's about, isn't it. 123 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,680 I Mean, come on, it's not about keeping the people safe. 124 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,319 It's not about making sure that you know you're prepared 125 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,920 for disasters. It's about the signaling, you know, the virtue signaling. 126 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody, you know, let the open up the 127 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,399 jails and reduced sentences and did all that stuff during 128 00:07:12,439 --> 00:07:15,160 COVID too. And I believe one of the people who 129 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,560 had their sentence reduced when it was released was the gentleman. 130 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,959 He's not a gentleman, but the individual who murdered the 131 00:07:22,079 --> 00:07:24,720 Ukrainian young lady on the on the cats. 132 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:28,079 Speaker 2: Yes, So that's we've been talking about that for the 133 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,759 last hour and for the last two and a half weeks. Actually, 134 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,680 it's just it's a mystery as to why now we've 135 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,120 got a statement from our Attorney general finally weighing in 136 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,920 on this seventeen days later, and all of a sudden, 137 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:42,279 now we've got people and the governor put out a 138 00:07:42,279 --> 00:07:46,439 statement on Twitter. It's what I wonder why it took 139 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,000 so long. Do you think you may have had something 140 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,040 to do with the release of the video that's now 141 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:53,120 gone viral? Do you think I think it might have. 142 00:07:53,319 --> 00:07:55,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've been trying to confirm it. But from 143 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,240 a couple sources told me that the city council members 144 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,279 had have been maybe trying to crush the release of 145 00:08:02,319 --> 00:08:02,759 that video. 146 00:08:02,879 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: I have seen that rumor as well. 147 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 3: I've been trying to track it down. I can't find 148 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:09,439 anyone who go on the record, So yeah. 149 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: I think it right. 150 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: And so right now, that is the rumor that council 151 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,720 members tried to stop it, and I think that's pretty 152 00:08:16,759 --> 00:08:21,079 standard whenever there's like something that they don't want released, like, 153 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,079 they'll they'll try to make an argument that it's not 154 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,480 in the public interest or something like that in order to, 155 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:30,560 you know, to fight the release of city owned video. 156 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,799 Speaker 3: You know a number of times in the past. 157 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 2: Right, it's sort of like the bodycam footage, except it's 158 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:39,240 the complete opposite, where usually the politicians, well the Democrats, 159 00:08:39,279 --> 00:08:43,480 are trying to get the videos released, right, but in 160 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,120 this case they did not want them. And remember we're 161 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:49,799 having a vote on a transit tax increase in November, 162 00:08:50,159 --> 00:08:52,679 and so this has got a lot of people very 163 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,080 worried that now people won't vote to expand transit funding 164 00:08:56,639 --> 00:08:59,799 when you're getting people murdered on the on the trains 165 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:00,279 as it is. 166 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:01,879 Speaker 3: Well, that video is like a scene off of the 167 00:09:01,919 --> 00:09:05,240 New York City subway. Mm hmm, yeah, I mean you 168 00:09:05,279 --> 00:09:07,120 didn't think you don't think that will happen in yours 169 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:09,639 in your state? And lo and behold there it was right. Well, 170 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,080 this poor woman was ambushed, just mind her own business 171 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:12,960 and her cell phone. 172 00:09:13,039 --> 00:09:15,519 Speaker 2: Right, So, well, have you ever been have you ever 173 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:17,519 been on the light rail line here in Charlotte. 174 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,960 Speaker 3: Nope, don't find it ever, be right. 175 00:09:19,879 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: Well, there you go. 176 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,519 Speaker 2: So but they don't they don't have they have a kiosk, 177 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,240 an automated or like a touchscreen kiosk on the platforms. 178 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,440 There's no gated entry onto any of the platforms, so 179 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,720 they're all open, so anybody can walk up onto the 180 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,480 station platforms and then you just digitally buy a ticket 181 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,840 and it's on your phone. But if you don't buy it, 182 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,759 there's nobody that comes around and checks, and so it's 183 00:09:42,799 --> 00:09:46,320 like a free train. And so the homeless people ride 184 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:46,799 around on. 185 00:09:46,799 --> 00:09:48,919 Speaker 3: It because it's absolutely stupid. 186 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:56,799 Speaker 2: Yes, oh yes, absolutely, and it was designed to be stupid. 187 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:56,159 Speaker 1: My right, that's and so that's why. 188 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,519 Speaker 2: Uh, it was an original design flaw and it caused 189 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,519 this woman her life. 190 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 3: So uh was a feature? 191 00:10:04,879 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: Right? 192 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, AP, I got a run. I appreciate your 193 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:11,840 time as always. 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And again, like all. 236 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: Of the national coverage that has erupted over the weekend 237 00:12:34,639 --> 00:12:38,159 because of the release of the video by local media, 238 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:43,600 which then went viral, okay, and Elon Musk put it 239 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:46,200 on his account, and when Elon Musk tweets anything, everybody 240 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,440 on Twitter is obligated to read it. That's the best 241 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,080 I can tell because this stuff always shows up in 242 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:55,799 my fees, so that that goes viral. That has now 243 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,440 prompted all of these reactions from the governor, attorney general. Right, 244 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,159 we're getting all of this now focus, We're getting national attention, 245 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:10,440 national coverage because of social media because of the video, 246 00:13:10,799 --> 00:13:15,159 which might explain why local leaders may not have wanted 247 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,639 that video to be released, Okay, and there could be 248 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:19,519 multiple reasons. 249 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: It's not an either or situation. Right. 250 00:13:21,759 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 2: You can say it's difficult for the family to see 251 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:29,000 this video of their loved one moments before she's murdered. Absolutely, 252 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:36,000 But if we're going to force change, people need to 253 00:13:36,159 --> 00:13:39,720 understand what exactly occurred. And when you read a story 254 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,600 about the attack, it didn't get any coverage, and local 255 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,279 leadership had an incentive for the story to just go away. 256 00:13:48,799 --> 00:13:52,879 The incentive is Number one, they're up for reelection right now. 257 00:13:53,519 --> 00:13:56,480 They don't want this to be used against them and 258 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:02,039 harm their electoral prospects. And number two, they're trying to 259 00:14:02,039 --> 00:14:05,320 get a referendum passed to increase funding for the very 260 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:12,399 transit system where this occurred. Okay, so this could yes, 261 00:14:12,519 --> 00:14:16,200 it could actually impact the mayor's race, either in the 262 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,960 primary which is going on right now early voting, or 263 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:25,679 in the general. We shall see seven oh four number says. 264 00:14:25,679 --> 00:14:28,200 Putting people who are guilty in jail and keeping them 265 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,600 there may have stopped this, may have prevented it. Yeah, 266 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:34,799 early primary voting and oh it ended Saturday, thank you 267 00:14:34,879 --> 00:14:39,399 Chris in Monroe. So primary voting ended, early primary voting, 268 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,840 but the primary, and this is just for municipal races. 269 00:14:43,039 --> 00:14:44,559 So like I live in the county, so I don't 270 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,879 get to vote in the municipal races. The ignorant Charlotte 271 00:14:49,879 --> 00:14:52,720 electorate will re elect Mayor vy Lyles in a landslide. 272 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: That's all. 273 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: That is one way it could go. Scott says if 274 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:02,039 he wasn't on the train, that women would be alive. 275 00:15:02,919 --> 00:15:10,360 Mental people need help not to roam free. Jim says, Pete, 276 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,000 you said local media has covered this story well, but 277 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,039 surely you didn't miss this one from the Observer headline 278 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,440 deadly light rail stabbing and Charlotte grows political under national spotlight. 279 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,879 Speaker 1: Grows Really. 280 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Look, the local media has done a good 281 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:31,279 job of covering this story. This is why, by the way, 282 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:35,679 that I have been able to cover the story for 283 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:38,320 the last two and a half weeks, because local media 284 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:40,960 has been covering it. Reporters have been going, I'm not 285 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,120 a reporter, right, I'm not going out and making a 286 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,960 bunch of phone calls and attending city compan I do 287 00:15:47,039 --> 00:15:49,200 watch the city council meetings and that sort of thing. 288 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: Yes, but I'm not a reporter. I'm a host. 289 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm only one person. I can't cover every 290 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,960 single beat, So I rely on media reports, and so 291 00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:01,919 for crime and some courts beats and stuff, I rely 292 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,360 on local media. And they have done a good job 293 00:16:04,799 --> 00:16:09,159 in getting the details of this case out. And it's 294 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,480 only because of their work that now the nationals come 295 00:16:12,519 --> 00:16:16,600 in and they have a body of facts that they 296 00:16:16,679 --> 00:16:20,440 can use to populate their story now that they have 297 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,159 finally gotten around to doing it, because they can put 298 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,399 the video in their story. All right, you hear me 299 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,120 talk a lot about incentives, right, Well, let's talk about 300 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,960 incentive trips, the kind that companies offer employees to fire 301 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,480 them up and reward their teams. If you own a 302 00:16:34,519 --> 00:16:38,000 business or you work somewhere that offers these incentive trips, first. 303 00:16:37,679 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: Off, good for you. 304 00:16:38,799 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: But also there is a custom app that's a game 305 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,039 changer for these trips. It's called incentive trip Kit. Private 306 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:49,399 group messaging, shared photos, you're itinerary, travel details all built 307 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,399 into a single, easy to use app. There's even a 308 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,559 traveler locator, so Carl from accounting doesn't get left behind. 309 00:16:55,879 --> 00:16:59,039 The best part about incentive trip Kit it's totally private. 310 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,840 No email can, no sign ups, no cringe ads. It's simple, 311 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,279 clean and secure. And when the trip is over, incentive 312 00:17:07,279 --> 00:17:11,200 trip Kit turns those highlights into a professional storytelling video. 313 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,319 So think about it. When you launch next year's incentive 314 00:17:14,319 --> 00:17:18,400 trip campaign, that video becomes your greatest motivator. Talk about 315 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,839 a return on investment. Right, you got to check out 316 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:25,000 incentive trip Kit for your business. Visit incentive tripkit dot 317 00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:28,000 com because great trips deserve even better returns. 318 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,279 Speaker 1: I just saw this clip. 319 00:17:30,039 --> 00:17:34,279 Speaker 2: From Benny Johnson he had Harmie Dillon, who is the 320 00:17:34,319 --> 00:17:38,440 Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, and he asked her 321 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:42,359 about this case in Charlotte and whether or not the 322 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,960 FEDS are going to be looking into the city of 323 00:17:45,079 --> 00:17:53,160 Charlotte and the judicial officials who allowed this deranged maniac 324 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,079 to be out on the streets, and whether or not 325 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,000 there's any lawsuit that can be brought. 326 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:03,599 Speaker 4: Here's what she said, I am looking at other cities 327 00:18:03,799 --> 00:18:08,759 for their race based prosecution. And you know, if there 328 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:13,920 are law enforcement officials in Charlotte who have information about 329 00:18:14,079 --> 00:18:19,799 similar race based arrest patterns, prosecution patterns, or plea agreements 330 00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:22,519 in that city that favor one race over the other 331 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,359 or others, then we would very much want to hear 332 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,119 about that because that would be a due process, an 333 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,880 equal protection issue, and illegal under our federal civil rights laws. 334 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,400 And so we'd be interested to hear that. And it's 335 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,319 tragic that any American lost their lives to a repeat 336 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,359 offender like this. I saw this kind of thing happen 337 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,440 regularly in San Francisco, where I lived for almost twenty 338 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,240 five years. Violent criminals who would prey on the same 339 00:18:49,839 --> 00:18:54,160 racial type. For example, in that city, elderly Asian Americans 340 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,720 were frequently the targets a violent crime from African American perpetrators, 341 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,759 and they were catch and release, catch and release, let 342 00:19:01,799 --> 00:19:04,480 out again and again and again and in some instance 343 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:08,559 is actually killing our elderly citizens in our community. So 344 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,039 this is wrong, and you know, with evidence, we can 345 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:11,880 put a stop to it. 346 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: Right. 347 00:19:12,759 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 2: So again she's asking if there's you know, if anybody 348 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,839 has evidence of a pattern of this kind of. 349 00:19:22,079 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: I don't know. 350 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to say justice, like if there, if 351 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,119 there are a patterns, she's going to be looking into it. 352 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,720 Let me get back to the text line here and 353 00:19:31,759 --> 00:19:39,119 get some of these texts regarding the the response from 354 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,000 local officials over the last two weeks, which has kind 355 00:19:42,039 --> 00:19:45,519 of been, well, you know, it happened so fast, there 356 00:19:45,559 --> 00:19:48,240 was no sign, there was no argument or anything. 357 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,559 Speaker 1: That precipitated it. He just attacked her. 358 00:19:50,799 --> 00:19:53,079 Speaker 2: So even if there was a cop on the train, 359 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,359 they would not have been able to prevent her death. 360 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,119 And while that may be true in that exact scenario, 361 00:19:59,759 --> 00:20:05,640 it ignores the obvious idea that deterrence works, that if 362 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,079 you've got an officer on the train, he may never 363 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:09,799 have done the. 364 00:20:09,759 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: Attack in the first place. 365 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,759 Speaker 2: Also, as Michael texts in, it doesn't matter what or 366 00:20:17,799 --> 00:20:20,559 how fast the response would have been. This guy should 367 00:20:20,599 --> 00:20:22,680 not have been on that train, right because he was 368 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,680 a fair skipper. He should not have been there. He 369 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:31,880 did not pay to be on the train. This from 370 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,000 a Florida number who says it was a hate crime. 371 00:20:34,039 --> 00:20:36,079 He was fine until she got on the train. 372 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. 373 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 2: He seemed to have been muttering to himself before she 374 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,039 got on, but I don't know. Again, the guy is 375 00:20:43,079 --> 00:20:48,680 mentally deranged. That seems obvious. So yes, then there's this. 376 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,559 The New York Post had an article this morning about 377 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:53,039 a go fundme page set up for the killer. It's 378 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:55,559 now been taken down after outrage. I know you don't 379 00:20:55,599 --> 00:20:58,279 click links, so none is provided. Well, I already had that. 380 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,799 Actually there were whereas there were actually three of them 381 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,839 that were posted, or I saw references to three. Two 382 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,240 that were actually posted. One was put up by somebody 383 00:21:09,319 --> 00:21:14,960 named Ezekie ol Rivers. No specific goal was created nine 384 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:19,160 am yesterday. This person that was at a Fort Polke, 385 00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:22,960 South Louisiana. And then there was another one that had 386 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,079 a thirty five thousand dollars goal for put up by 387 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,359 Ryan Nicholas Rangham that was created at one o'clock on Sunday, 388 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,640 and go fundme says that it has taken down any 389 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,920 of these go Fundme pages because then there was another 390 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,400 one that was set up by somebody named Reverend Ray Christman. 391 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,839 Speaker 1: But it doesn't. I think that's a fake one. 392 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,839 Speaker 2: I think that's a fake profile because I went looking 393 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,480 at his Twitter feed it seemed like he was a parody. 394 00:21:47,079 --> 00:21:48,519 Speaker 1: Troll kind of account. 395 00:21:49,079 --> 00:21:52,039 Speaker 2: Either way, gofund me says they are taking down those 396 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,000 types of. 397 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,839 Speaker 1: Those types of fundraisers. 398 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: People pointing out here, yes, that the whole thoughts and 399 00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:04,839 prayers crowd that they're not enough. Remember after the Minneapolis 400 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,799 school shooting that now the mayor comes out with the 401 00:22:07,839 --> 00:22:12,680 thoughts and prayers in a statement and the Attorney General 402 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:15,119 Jeff Jackson a thoughts and prayers statement, Like now it's 403 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:16,240 a thoughts in prayers time. 404 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,559 Speaker 1: It's because it's different when Democrats do it. 405 00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 2: This is from Carol who says I posted on my 406 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,480 Facebook about the tragedy, and my friends in Phoenix and 407 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:33,599 Chicago were like, what are you talking about? We've never 408 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,200 heard about this story. Yeah, that's true. Until this weekend, 409 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:41,200 nobody had heard about it. I kept seeing people responding 410 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,079 that they had not heard anything about the story, and 411 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,960 that is true because when you do searches for media 412 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,440 on their media websites, they don't have the story. It's 413 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,519 just not part of their coverage. They did not cover 414 00:22:51,559 --> 00:22:56,000 the story. Don't know who this is from. It's a 415 00:22:56,279 --> 00:22:58,000 seven oh four number. I love your show, Pete. I 416 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,799 wanted to make a quick comment. It's sad. 417 00:23:01,519 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 1: Oh no, now the text line just bounced. 418 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: It's sad that initially our mayor came out with a 419 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,559 statement four days after the killing and was victimizing the 420 00:23:09,599 --> 00:23:13,160 young lady and almost defending this animal. Also very disheartening 421 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,880 to know that it took two weeks for this story 422 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,079 to make national. 423 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: News video or no video. 424 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 2: People should have been talking about this on social media 425 00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:24,559 now for this monster that is behind bars. The police 426 00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:28,599 have arrested him multiple times, but I believe the last 427 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,720 time he was arrested he was actually showing signs of 428 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,880 mental disorder. He was. It seemed to me that he 429 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,960 should have been in some type of institution getting the 430 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,799 help he needs. This all could have stopped such a 431 00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:39,720 tragic event. Charlotte is a wonderful city, but it's become 432 00:23:39,759 --> 00:23:42,599 a clown show over the past few years. We know 433 00:23:43,079 --> 00:23:46,440 which right in which wrong, but we are not following 434 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,839 our moral compass. Our city leaders need to wake up 435 00:23:48,839 --> 00:23:51,440 and start making changes to protect the innocent and help 436 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:55,200 out the ones that needed. Thanks for reading. So I 437 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:01,519 track this all back to the Summer of fiery but 438 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:07,440 mostly peaceful rioting. That's when everybody went completely nuts, and 439 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,559 that really is rooted in COVID and rooted in the 440 00:24:10,599 --> 00:24:16,319 government response to COVID. The lockdowns and you know, all 441 00:24:16,319 --> 00:24:19,279 the mandates and such, and then the riots and they 442 00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:21,599 were like, okay, now you can protest for social justice. 443 00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:24,079 That's okay. You can spread COVID during those events. You know, 444 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:30,759 that's what broke the institutions. It broke media, it broke 445 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:35,720 people's brains. And the Democrats went full bore onto this 446 00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:40,359 restorative justice stuff and started, you know, defund the police, 447 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:44,759 demoralization of the police, release people from the prisons because 448 00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:47,240 of COVID, get them out of the jails because of COVID, 449 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:47,680 all of it. 450 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: That's where I trace this back to. 451 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 2: So when I was a kid, my grandpa died with 452 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,720 Alzheimer's and before he died, my mom and my dad 453 00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:57,319 took care of him as he got worse. Forty years ago, 454 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,960 there were no treatments and not much support for care 455 00:25:00,079 --> 00:25:02,920 givers and family. But things are different today because of 456 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,119 the work of so many people, including the Alzheimer's Association 457 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,559 of Western Carolina. It's a great organization with awesome people 458 00:25:09,839 --> 00:25:12,839 with huge hearts. I've been a supporter for twenty five years. 459 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,200 This cause means a lot to me. I participate in 460 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,079 the annual Walk to End Alzheimer's and I'm leading a 461 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,279 Charlotte team again this year, and it's called once again 462 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,759 Pete's Pack. You can sign up and you can join 463 00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:27,559 the team and walk with us. It's on October eighteenth, 464 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,720 that truest field. Sign up at alz dot org slash 465 00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:34,799 walk and then you can search for my team name Petespac. 466 00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:38,200 There's also a link at thepetepod dot com. There's also 467 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,079 a link in the description of this podcast. Also, I'll 468 00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:44,160 be am seeing the Gastonia Walk on October eleventh, and 469 00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:46,400 so you can make a team and join that one too, 470 00:25:46,759 --> 00:25:48,680 or make a donation and help me hit my goal 471 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,599 of five thousand dollars. If you do, I really appreciate it. 472 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: There are a. 473 00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: Bunch of other walks all over the Carolinas. You can 474 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,400 go to alz dot org slash walk for all the 475 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,039 dates and locations. We're closer than ever to stopping Alzheimer's. 476 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,880 Can you help us get there? Will you walk with me? 477 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,000 For a different future, for families, for more time for treatments. 478 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,079 Speaker 1: This is why we walk. Let's see here to do. 479 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: Thanks for your This is from the text line by 480 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,519 the way driven by Liberty Buick GMCP. Thanks for your 481 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:21,279 coverage of this tragic story. The mayor is invisible and 482 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:29,480 ineffectual and needs to go. Unnamed person says, uh, where 483 00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:32,759 are the I stand with Ukraine people, except if you 484 00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:36,680 are murdered on the light rail in Charlotte. It's time 485 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,799 for the mayor of Charlotte to resign over this mess 486 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:46,519 on the light rail. Oh my goodness, just go to 487 00:26:46,599 --> 00:26:51,559 the peapod dot com. Yes, Bill, okay? 488 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:52,279 Speaker 4: Uh? 489 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: If a c H this is I don't know. This 490 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,400 is from they give me your names. People. You are correct. 491 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,559 Speaker 2: If a ce oh had been in the train, it 492 00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:05,680 would have possibly stopped the crime. I'm guessing that's a 493 00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:07,799 if a cop. Yeah, if a cop had been in 494 00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:10,240 the train, it would have possibly stopped the crime. Except 495 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,839 watch example, watch how, oh my gosh, this text line 496 00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:16,799 how people follow speed limit when a cop is driving 497 00:27:16,839 --> 00:27:19,279 around them? Right, exactly, if you're driving down the road 498 00:27:19,319 --> 00:27:27,680 and there's a police cruiser nearby, everybody slows down. Okay, 499 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:35,279 I'm not tech support. Someone needs to ask the mayor. Okay, 500 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,559 spelling errors. I'm going to delete. I'm just going to 501 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,519 run my past that because I don't understand what you're saying. 502 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: Okay, let me do this. 503 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 2: Remember the Charlotte Optimist, it's the website Charlotte Optimist dot com. 504 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,480 Michael Graff reporter, He had the sit down interview with 505 00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:58,880 Johnny Jennings, the CMPD chief that he was the one 506 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,759 that first broke the details of the quote separation agreement 507 00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:07,440 aka the settlement of the lawsuit that never was he 508 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:10,000 got to sit down or a walk around. Actually, the 509 00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:14,759 jail with Gary not my fault. McFadden our sheriff, and 510 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,599 I've read through the piece. It's very well done, very lengthy, 511 00:28:18,799 --> 00:28:21,599 but there was one part of it that relates to 512 00:28:22,759 --> 00:28:26,759 this topic of the murder of the Ukrainian refugee, and 513 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:32,240 so I want to give you the give you a 514 00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:35,599 Gary said, here you go. I brought up this case 515 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,079 with McFadden in the context of his mental health and 516 00:28:39,119 --> 00:28:42,400 rehabilitation efforts, right that he's always touting like we're doing 517 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,160 all this stuff with the jail and for rehabilitation and 518 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,960 all of that. I asked him, how we help people 519 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,960 who will make the most of second chances while protecting 520 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,799 the community from the truly dangerous? Right, And that is 521 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:02,799 that's the question, right, that's the friction. If there are 522 00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:05,839 people that made a mistake, how do we help them 523 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,599 along to give him a second chance, pay their debt 524 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,759 to society, as long as it's not some violent offense 525 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:14,319 or something. Right, they make a mistake and then they 526 00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:17,839 don't do anything ever again and they get scared straight, 527 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,680 so to speak. So how do we do that? How 528 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,960 do we help them but also protect the community from 529 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:30,160 people who are truly dangerous? How do we solve for 530 00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:31,279 both things? 531 00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:37,359 Speaker 1: That was the question. Here's what not my fault? 532 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:43,039 Speaker 2: McFadden says, the majority of his time is spent in 533 00:29:43,119 --> 00:29:46,640 his community. So we take that the time that de 534 00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:50,519 Carlos Brown spent with us versus the time that he 535 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,279 is with the community who failed him. I didn't fail him. 536 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:59,039 The community failed him, and Graft points out, I had 537 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:03,720 not suggested that Fadden had failed anyone. But this is McFadden. 538 00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:09,680 This is always Sheriff McFadden. That's why I call him Gary, 539 00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:14,319 not my fault McFadden, because nothing is ever his fault. 540 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:18,920 He says that on everything, And look, I don't think 541 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,799 that McFadden is at fault in the light rail murder. 542 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,839 I do not, at least from the information I have seen. 543 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:31,640 The jail did what it was supposed to have done. 544 00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:32,519 Speaker 1: Right. 545 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,039 Speaker 2: The problem was in the courts and the magistrates and 546 00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:40,720 the judges and such. The problem was at cats where 547 00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,119 they didn't put officers on the trains, or they haven't 548 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,200 been checking fares, they haven't making sure people are paying 549 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,480 to get on the trains. Right, That to me is 550 00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:55,759 the breakdown. So no one is accusing Gary McFadden of 551 00:30:55,839 --> 00:31:01,599 causing or having any culpability in the murder. But when 552 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,960 asked about how do we solve for both of these challenges, 553 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,720 his response is who failed him? 554 00:31:09,839 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: I didn't fail him. The community failed him. 555 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:18,559 Speaker 2: He immediately takes it as an attack and then deflects 556 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,920 the blame onto somebody else, onto the community failed him. 557 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,960 The community failed him. Everybody else failed him. By the way, 558 00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:33,119 this is what former Charlotte City councilwoman, the late Susan 559 00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:39,680 Burgess said after a guy executed two CMPD officers Shelton 560 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,960 and Clark murdered them, and her response at the first 561 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,319 city council meeting was exactly this. How has the community 562 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:52,839 failed that man? And boy did she get blowback, But 563 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,480 I guess times have changed, all right. That'll do it 564 00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,160 for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I 565 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,279 could not do the show without your support and the 566 00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:05,359 support of the businesses that advertise on the podcast, so 567 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,519 if you'd like, please support them too and tell them 568 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:09,519 you heard it here. 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