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Speaker 1: It's called more to the Story. Ap. Welcome, How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Pete? How are you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well as well, not great, but almost great.
Almost So that's good enough. All right.
Speaker 2: So let's first look west. Let's look to the mountains.
The Asheville City Council you read pored in a very
lengthy piece over the weekend. Millions of tax dollars have
been funneled towards reparations in Ashville, and more could be spent.
So I guess what. Tomorrow, They've got their city council
meeting and they're going to be reviewing a final report
from the Community Reparations Commission. Yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, this document includes various ways that are basically for
the black community only to access housing, to improve education.
It deals with public policing and those sorts of things.
And there were a number of things packed in there
in this report, and also it's draft report that came
out ahead of this a year ago that could be problematic.
It has things embedded in it like DEI culturally relevant pedagogy,
sensitivity training being required for employees of the city. There
could be some civil rights violations in there, you know,
dedicated transportation systems for just the black expectant mothers I believe.
Speaker 2: I believe that's called pregnant people ap pregnant people, right.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Also, the one that really stuck out to me was
the affordable housing specifically for black populations. And they talk
about using block grants, federal block grants for that.
Speaker 2: That's a big no no, Yeah, that's not good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the legality of all these questions, you know, kind
of percolated up on Twitter or ex as. It's called
now and the Assistant Attorney General Hermiet Dillon for the
Office of SILLOVL Right said that if the folks in
Wencom County, we'll be hearing from us tonight. If they
pass illegal race based programs, they will find out we're
serious about ending the EI racism in America. And it
turns out she did send a letter to them, which
was confirmed by a gentleman named Matt van Swell, who's
been very vocal in them part of the state following
Hurricane Helen. He's garnered a lot of followers, and House
Speaker Dustin Hall also spoke up on and retweeted Harmet
Dillon's post NX staying at woke policies have no place
in NC. I'm directing the gov Ops Task Force to
investigate city councils statewide to ensure taxpayer dollars aren't being
wasted on DEI racism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, think about it.
Speaker 2: They're saying, if you're a black person, we're going to
give you this housing voucher over a white person just
because you're black. That's I mean, that's essentially what they're
saying that they're going to do in a form of reparations,
which look and I've when I worked up there, I
talked about this at the time, like the dislocation of residents,
and this happened all over America for various reasons at
various times. Happened near in Charlotte during quote urban renewal
that was under a Democrat administration where they leveled the
Brooklyn neighborhood. But in Asheville there was a predominantly poor
area of the downtown area and they seized all the
land and they booted everybody out because it was like
the drain field basically where all of the runoff would collect,
so like the sewerage and all that stuff, and so
they cleared it all out. But actually more white poor
people were dislocated than black poor people from that area
and they weren't going to get any reparations for that.
And my view on it is if you got a
government taking your property and you didn't get compensated for it,
then I think then yes, you should get compensated. You
want to call that a reparation, I think that's totally
legit because that was an illegal taking. But this idea
that now you're going to give somebody who maybe moved
into the Ashville area a decade ago, and because they're black,
you're going to give them some extra money over some
poor white person. Is it is clearly raised based and
clearly illegal. I mean, in my view, I don't know
any other way around it. And it seems like the
Feds believe it too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well see what comes from that. They've been warned,
and you know, they just settled that racial discrimination lawsuit
right ef using membership to suit to the Human Rights
Council to anyone who wasn't of a minority race.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that was, if I recall correctly, that was
I think it was former Councilman Carl Mumpower who had
applied to be on that commission and they said no,
and then they kept the open application period. They kept
it open for like an extra year or something because
they couldn't find anybody to sit on the panel.
Speaker 1: They and so.
Speaker 2: Obviously they didn't want him on there because of his race,
and so he sued and he won. You would think
that would be sort of a kick in the pants
for them. Now you report in your piece here this
is at your sub stack. More to the story. The
announcement said the city Council's appropriation was quote aligned with
a July fourteenth, twenty twenty vote resulting in a resolution
supporting community reparations for Black Ashville. And of course black
is capitalized because that's reparations as well. And so I
think though that you missed an important point here, which
was that this was this was a fantastic way for
the Asheville City government to get good pr during the
fiery but mostly peaceful Summer of Love. I mean, that
really was the benefit. And I think you just completely ignored.
Speaker 3: The George Floyd riot, right, Yeah, No, this was one
of those reactions to the George Floyd riots. And you know, it's.
Speaker 2: They got so much coverage for it. Remember, I mean
they were they were celebrated, they were going on all
sorts of they were on MSNBC, they were making all
of the rounds for the for their sensitivity foot.
Speaker 3: Washington thing that went on, you know, I mean, whatever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that really is what it's about, isn't it.
I Mean, come on, it's not about keeping the people safe.
It's not about making sure that you know you're prepared
for disasters. It's about the signaling, you know, the virtue signaling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and everybody, you know, let the open up the
jails and reduced sentences and did all that stuff during
COVID too. And I believe one of the people who
had their sentence reduced when it was released was the gentleman.
He's not a gentleman, but the individual who murdered the
Ukrainian young lady on the on the cats.
Speaker 2: Yes, So that's we've been talking about that for the
last hour and for the last two and a half weeks. Actually,
it's just it's a mystery as to why now we've
got a statement from our Attorney general finally weighing in
on this seventeen days later, and all of a sudden,
now we've got people and the governor put out a
statement on Twitter. It's what I wonder why it took
so long. Do you think you may have had something
to do with the release of the video that's now
gone viral? Do you think I think it might have.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I've been trying to confirm it. But from
a couple sources told me that the city council members
had have been maybe trying to crush the release of
that video.
Speaker 1: I have seen that rumor as well.
Speaker 3: I've been trying to track it down. I can't find
anyone who go on the record, So yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it right.
Speaker 2: And so right now, that is the rumor that council
members tried to stop it, and I think that's pretty
standard whenever there's like something that they don't want released, like,
they'll they'll try to make an argument that it's not
in the public interest or something like that in order to,
you know, to fight the release of city owned video.
Speaker 3: You know a number of times in the past.
Speaker 2: Right, it's sort of like the bodycam footage, except it's
the complete opposite, where usually the politicians, well the Democrats,
are trying to get the videos released, right, but in
this case they did not want them. And remember we're
having a vote on a transit tax increase in November,
and so this has got a lot of people very
worried that now people won't vote to expand transit funding
when you're getting people murdered on the on the trains
as it is.
Speaker 3: Well, that video is like a scene off of the
New York City subway. Mm hmm, yeah, I mean you
didn't think you don't think that will happen in yours
in your state? And lo and behold there it was right. Well,
this poor woman was ambushed, just mind her own business
and her cell phone.
Speaker 2: Right, So, well, have you ever been have you ever
been on the light rail line here in Charlotte.
Speaker 3: Nope, don't find it ever, be right.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go.
Speaker 2: So but they don't they don't have they have a kiosk,
an automated or like a touchscreen kiosk on the platforms.
There's no gated entry onto any of the platforms, so
they're all open, so anybody can walk up onto the
station platforms and then you just digitally buy a ticket
and it's on your phone. But if you don't buy it,
there's nobody that comes around and checks, and so it's
like a free train. And so the homeless people ride
around on.
Speaker 3: It because it's absolutely stupid.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yes, absolutely, and it was designed to be stupid.
Speaker 1: My right, that's and so that's why.
Speaker 2: Uh, it was an original design flaw and it caused
this woman her life.
Speaker 3: So uh was a feature?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, AP, I got a run. I appreciate your
time as always. Check her out at nsjonline dot com.
Thanks AP, thanks so much.
Speaker 1: Take care.
Speaker 2: That's ap Dylan from The North State Journal end her
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in my text reading from the WBT text line driven
by liberty viewing GMC from anonymous in Hickory who says,
don't write off the Republican nominees' chances for mayor just yet.
The trained security and train issue, combined with the police
chief payoff, have voters looking elsewhere.
Speaker 1: It may. It absolutely may. And again, like all.
Speaker 2: Of the national coverage that has erupted over the weekend
because of the release of the video by local media,
which then went viral, okay, and Elon Musk put it
on his account, and when Elon Musk tweets anything, everybody
on Twitter is obligated to read it. That's the best
I can tell because this stuff always shows up in
my fees, so that that goes viral. That has now
prompted all of these reactions from the governor, attorney general. Right,
we're getting all of this now focus, We're getting national attention,
national coverage because of social media because of the video,
which might explain why local leaders may not have wanted
that video to be released, Okay, and there could be
multiple reasons.
Speaker 1: It's not an either or situation. Right.
Speaker 2: You can say it's difficult for the family to see
this video of their loved one moments before she's murdered. Absolutely,
But if we're going to force change, people need to
understand what exactly occurred. And when you read a story
about the attack, it didn't get any coverage, and local
leadership had an incentive for the story to just go away.
The incentive is Number one, they're up for reelection right now.
They don't want this to be used against them and
harm their electoral prospects. And number two, they're trying to
get a referendum passed to increase funding for the very
transit system where this occurred. Okay, so this could yes,
it could actually impact the mayor's race, either in the
primary which is going on right now early voting, or
in the general. We shall see seven oh four number says.
Putting people who are guilty in jail and keeping them
there may have stopped this, may have prevented it. Yeah,
early primary voting and oh it ended Saturday, thank you
Chris in Monroe. So primary voting ended, early primary voting,
but the primary, and this is just for municipal races.
So like I live in the county, so I don't
get to vote in the municipal races. The ignorant Charlotte
electorate will re elect Mayor vy Lyles in a landslide.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 2: That is one way it could go. Scott says if
he wasn't on the train, that women would be alive.
Mental people need help not to roam free. Jim says, Pete,
you said local media has covered this story well, but
surely you didn't miss this one from the Observer headline
deadly light rail stabbing and Charlotte grows political under national spotlight.
Speaker 1: Grows Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, Look, the local media has done a good
job of covering this story. This is why, by the way,
that I have been able to cover the story for
the last two and a half weeks, because local media
has been covering it. Reporters have been going, I'm not
a reporter, right, I'm not going out and making a
bunch of phone calls and attending city compan I do
watch the city council meetings and that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I'm not a reporter. I'm a host.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm only one person. I can't cover every
single beat, So I rely on media reports, and so
for crime and some courts beats and stuff, I rely
on local media. And they have done a good job
in getting the details of this case out. And it's
only because of their work that now the nationals come
in and they have a body of facts that they
can use to populate their story now that they have
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Speaker 1: I just saw this clip.
Speaker 2: From Benny Johnson he had Harmie Dillon, who is the
Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, and he asked her
about this case in Charlotte and whether or not the
FEDS are going to be looking into the city of
Charlotte and the judicial officials who allowed this deranged maniac
to be out on the streets, and whether or not
there's any lawsuit that can be brought.
Speaker 4: Here's what she said, I am looking at other cities
for their race based prosecution. And you know, if there
are law enforcement officials in Charlotte who have information about
similar race based arrest patterns, prosecution patterns, or plea agreements
in that city that favor one race over the other
or others, then we would very much want to hear
about that because that would be a due process, an
equal protection issue, and illegal under our federal civil rights laws.
And so we'd be interested to hear that. And it's
tragic that any American lost their lives to a repeat
offender like this. I saw this kind of thing happen
regularly in San Francisco, where I lived for almost twenty
five years. Violent criminals who would prey on the same
racial type. For example, in that city, elderly Asian Americans
were frequently the targets a violent crime from African American perpetrators,
and they were catch and release, catch and release, let
out again and again and again and in some instance
is actually killing our elderly citizens in our community. So
this is wrong, and you know, with evidence, we can
put a stop to it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So again she's asking if there's you know, if anybody
has evidence of a pattern of this kind of.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say justice, like if there, if
there are a patterns, she's going to be looking into it.
Let me get back to the text line here and
get some of these texts regarding the the response from
local officials over the last two weeks, which has kind
of been, well, you know, it happened so fast, there
was no sign, there was no argument or anything.
Speaker 1: That precipitated it. He just attacked her.
Speaker 2: So even if there was a cop on the train,
they would not have been able to prevent her death.
And while that may be true in that exact scenario,
it ignores the obvious idea that deterrence works, that if
you've got an officer on the train, he may never
have done the.
Speaker 1: Attack in the first place.
Speaker 2: Also, as Michael texts in, it doesn't matter what or
how fast the response would have been. This guy should
not have been on that train, right because he was
a fair skipper. He should not have been there. He
did not pay to be on the train. This from
a Florida number who says it was a hate crime.
He was fine until she got on the train.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: He seemed to have been muttering to himself before she
got on, but I don't know. Again, the guy is
mentally deranged. That seems obvious. So yes, then there's this.
The New York Post had an article this morning about
a go fundme page set up for the killer. It's
now been taken down after outrage. I know you don't
click links, so none is provided. Well, I already had that.
Actually there were whereas there were actually three of them
that were posted, or I saw references to three. Two
that were actually posted. One was put up by somebody
named Ezekie ol Rivers. No specific goal was created nine
am yesterday. This person that was at a Fort Polke,
South Louisiana. And then there was another one that had
a thirty five thousand dollars goal for put up by
Ryan Nicholas Rangham that was created at one o'clock on Sunday,
and go fundme says that it has taken down any
of these go Fundme pages because then there was another
one that was set up by somebody named Reverend Ray Christman.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't. I think that's a fake one.
Speaker 2: I think that's a fake profile because I went looking
at his Twitter feed it seemed like he was a parody.
Speaker 1: Troll kind of account.
Speaker 2: Either way, gofund me says they are taking down those
types of.
Speaker 1: Those types of fundraisers.
Speaker 2: People pointing out here, yes, that the whole thoughts and
prayers crowd that they're not enough. Remember after the Minneapolis
school shooting that now the mayor comes out with the
thoughts and prayers in a statement and the Attorney General
Jeff Jackson a thoughts and prayers statement, Like now it's
a thoughts in prayers time.
Speaker 1: It's because it's different when Democrats do it.
Speaker 2: This is from Carol who says I posted on my
Facebook about the tragedy, and my friends in Phoenix and
Chicago were like, what are you talking about? We've never
heard about this story. Yeah, that's true. Until this weekend,
nobody had heard about it. I kept seeing people responding
that they had not heard anything about the story, and
that is true because when you do searches for media
on their media websites, they don't have the story. It's
just not part of their coverage. They did not cover
the story. Don't know who this is from. It's a
seven oh four number. I love your show, Pete. I
wanted to make a quick comment. It's sad.
Speaker 1: Oh no, now the text line just bounced.
Speaker 2: It's sad that initially our mayor came out with a
statement four days after the killing and was victimizing the
young lady and almost defending this animal. Also very disheartening
to know that it took two weeks for this story
to make national.
Speaker 1: News video or no video.
Speaker 2: People should have been talking about this on social media
now for this monster that is behind bars. The police
have arrested him multiple times, but I believe the last
time he was arrested he was actually showing signs of
mental disorder. He was. It seemed to me that he
should have been in some type of institution getting the
help he needs. This all could have stopped such a
tragic event. Charlotte is a wonderful city, but it's become
a clown show over the past few years. We know
which right in which wrong, but we are not following
our moral compass. Our city leaders need to wake up
and start making changes to protect the innocent and help
out the ones that needed. Thanks for reading. So I
track this all back to the Summer of fiery but
mostly peaceful rioting. That's when everybody went completely nuts, and
that really is rooted in COVID and rooted in the
government response to COVID. The lockdowns and you know, all
the mandates and such, and then the riots and they
were like, okay, now you can protest for social justice.
That's okay. You can spread COVID during those events. You know,
that's what broke the institutions. It broke media, it broke
people's brains. And the Democrats went full bore onto this
restorative justice stuff and started, you know, defund the police,
demoralization of the police, release people from the prisons because
of COVID, get them out of the jails because of COVID,
all of it.
Speaker 1: That's where I trace this back to.
Speaker 2: So when I was a kid, my grandpa died with
Alzheimer's and before he died, my mom and my dad
took care of him as he got worse. Forty years ago,
there were no treatments and not much support for care
givers and family. But things are different today because of
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Speaker 2: Thanks for your This is from the text line by
the way driven by Liberty Buick GMCP. Thanks for your
coverage of this tragic story. The mayor is invisible and
ineffectual and needs to go. Unnamed person says, uh, where
are the I stand with Ukraine people, except if you
are murdered on the light rail in Charlotte. It's time
for the mayor of Charlotte to resign over this mess
on the light rail. Oh my goodness, just go to
the peapod dot com. Yes, Bill, okay?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: If a c H this is I don't know. This
is from they give me your names. People. You are correct.
Speaker 2: If a ce oh had been in the train, it
would have possibly stopped the crime. I'm guessing that's a
if a cop. Yeah, if a cop had been in
the train, it would have possibly stopped the crime. Except
watch example, watch how, oh my gosh, this text line
how people follow speed limit when a cop is driving
around them? Right, exactly, if you're driving down the road
and there's a police cruiser nearby, everybody slows down. Okay,
I'm not tech support. Someone needs to ask the mayor. Okay,
spelling errors. I'm going to delete. I'm just going to
run my past that because I don't understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me do this.
Speaker 2: Remember the Charlotte Optimist, it's the website Charlotte Optimist dot com.
Michael Graff reporter, He had the sit down interview with
Johnny Jennings, the CMPD chief that he was the one
that first broke the details of the quote separation agreement
aka the settlement of the lawsuit that never was he
got to sit down or a walk around. Actually, the
jail with Gary not my fault. McFadden our sheriff, and
I've read through the piece. It's very well done, very lengthy,
but there was one part of it that relates to
this topic of the murder of the Ukrainian refugee, and
so I want to give you the give you a
Gary said, here you go. I brought up this case
with McFadden in the context of his mental health and
rehabilitation efforts, right that he's always touting like we're doing
all this stuff with the jail and for rehabilitation and
all of that. I asked him, how we help people
who will make the most of second chances while protecting
the community from the truly dangerous? Right, And that is
that's the question, right, that's the friction. If there are
people that made a mistake, how do we help them
along to give him a second chance, pay their debt
to society, as long as it's not some violent offense
or something. Right, they make a mistake and then they
don't do anything ever again and they get scared straight,
so to speak. So how do we do that? How
do we help them but also protect the community from
people who are truly dangerous? How do we solve for
both things?
Speaker 1: That was the question. Here's what not my fault?
Speaker 2: McFadden says, the majority of his time is spent in
his community. So we take that the time that de
Carlos Brown spent with us versus the time that he
is with the community who failed him. I didn't fail him.
The community failed him, and Graft points out, I had
not suggested that Fadden had failed anyone. But this is McFadden.
This is always Sheriff McFadden. That's why I call him Gary,
not my fault McFadden, because nothing is ever his fault.
He says that on everything, And look, I don't think
that McFadden is at fault in the light rail murder.
I do not, at least from the information I have seen.
The jail did what it was supposed to have done.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: The problem was in the courts and the magistrates and
the judges and such. The problem was at cats where
they didn't put officers on the trains, or they haven't
been checking fares, they haven't making sure people are paying
to get on the trains. Right, That to me is
the breakdown. So no one is accusing Gary McFadden of
causing or having any culpability in the murder. But when
asked about how do we solve for both of these challenges,
his response is who failed him?
Speaker 1: I didn't fail him. The community failed him.
Speaker 2: He immediately takes it as an attack and then deflects
the blame onto somebody else, onto the community failed him.
The community failed him. Everybody else failed him. By the way,
this is what former Charlotte City councilwoman, the late Susan
Burgess said after a guy executed two CMPD officers Shelton
and Clark murdered them, and her response at the first
city council meeting was exactly this. How has the community
failed that man? And boy did she get blowback, But
I guess times have changed, all right. That'll do it
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