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<v Speaker 1>Hello, check one three. Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iron

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<v Speaker 1>the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Rivera and with me today's Dave Silver here. Oh good, okay, cool, thanks,

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<v Speaker 1>you're magical, mister meatball. Were good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Tuesday's show. In with me again today is Dave Silver.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry for the lateness. We have Kobe at the board here.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd like to give us a call five to

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<v Speaker 1>zero four one, six, seventy four forty. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>can hear us. Yeah, everything fine, can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear you. Okay, I'm here. Great. If you

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<v Speaker 1>guys want to call, please do Hey another day of

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<v Speaker 1>adventure or no adventure? No adventure, no portal. People from

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<v Speaker 1>the men's basketball team. I haven't had any confirmations about

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<v Speaker 1>the women's team, although there's kind of some rumblings. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>today though, David's April Fool's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we're seeing a lot of fakeness there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes we are. So we'll see what we have

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<v Speaker 1>today for the show. Today, we're gonna have going to

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<v Speaker 1>have mister Jim Rosborough. I forg it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>good time to talk to him about his experience with

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<v Speaker 1>the women's PEMA team and just you know how fun

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<v Speaker 1>that was getting to the finals of the of the

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<v Speaker 1>championship game, for that national championship game. And then if

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<v Speaker 1>you remember, David, you were there. I was there in

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<v Speaker 1>Indianapolis twenty eight years ago, yesterday, and just remember reminiscent

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<v Speaker 1>about the day and the night and the today would

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<v Speaker 1>have been the day after, right, the hangover. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you were at the airport trying to get back.

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<v Speaker 2>I was. I'm trying to remember. I think we stayed

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. We didn't. I think we were behind

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<v Speaker 2>the team, and in terms of our travel, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember exactly when we got in, but it took a

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<v Speaker 2>while for us to get back. But yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a big It was a big moment for us too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to just cover stuff and then now, okay, are

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<v Speaker 2>we done? Are we sending more stuff back to Tucson?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, as far as stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Go, Well, if you remember the game, I was not

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<v Speaker 1>writing until like one in the morning. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's when I started, because you know, you said, you linger,

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<v Speaker 1>you try to get his men quote and scenes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you were the kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, though, Yeah, so we I mean, like our job

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<v Speaker 2>in those years was basically to cover the news that

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<v Speaker 2>night at ten o'clock whatever, you know, it was midnight there,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, and then you know, get material back for

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<v Speaker 2>the next morning or the next day. So they would

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<v Speaker 2>have stuff because we were the only ones that had

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<v Speaker 2>it at that point. We had it in our cameras,

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<v Speaker 2>so we had to somehow transmit it back to Tucson.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was kind of part of our process. So

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<v Speaker 2>we were we were kind of you know, going at

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<v Speaker 2>warp speed pretty much until I would say, probably two

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock in the morning that night. That's about right as

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<v Speaker 2>things were you know, wrapping up and the parking lots

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<v Speaker 2>were closed down, and we were in our you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we were big satellite trucks just sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>trying to put together material for the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>As you look back twenty eight years ago, was it

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<v Speaker 1>as you look back now, and with the technology, was

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<v Speaker 1>it pretty antiquated?

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<v Speaker 2>Back then? It was pretty antiquated, But you still were

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<v Speaker 2>getting material out via satellite, which they still do they

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<v Speaker 2>do you know in some cases, but nowadays they can

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<v Speaker 2>do things so much easier through the Internet and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that, but we were literally at the mercy of

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<v Speaker 2>just poking satellite time they would call it be in

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<v Speaker 2>a truck, or you'd be in a location you would

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<v Speaker 2>have to call, you know, a number in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, book the time. I need, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>an hour of time or a half hour of time

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<v Speaker 2>to get all this material, you know, fed back to

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<v Speaker 2>the station. So somebody had to be back at all

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<v Speaker 2>of our TV stations in Tucson, I'm sure, all that

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<v Speaker 2>all night long, basically recording material that wouldn't physically be

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<v Speaker 2>back in Tucson probably until the next day in the afternoon,

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<v Speaker 2>so we had to try to get it back as

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<v Speaker 2>soon as we could.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was funny because that next day I stayed

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<v Speaker 1>up to about five or six. I know, Dave Petrush

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<v Speaker 1>goes with me. Peter Madrid was here Corky obviously, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we're, you know, a team doing these things. And

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<v Speaker 1>I stayed, like you say, midnight, one o'clock. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>being with Lut late into the night because I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to get different stuff than everybody else had. And my

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<v Speaker 1>lasting memory of that night was Lut talking to a

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<v Speaker 1>reporter in the hallway and I don't know who remember

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<v Speaker 1>who the reporter was. But Bobby off to the side

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<v Speaker 1>talking to George Khalil and me waiting for him one

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<v Speaker 1>last moment and he loot seeing Bobby, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe aout twenty one yards away saying bababe, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>right with you, and he says, she says, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and in her funny way says, lude, I've been waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for you for forty one years and another twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>when we'll kill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that relationship was awesome and they, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>they enjoyed that moment because that was really the only

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<v Speaker 2>time he had a chance to celebrate it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a national championship and all that went with that and

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<v Speaker 2>all the you know, craziness before those years and then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, some of the sad things obviously that happened

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<v Speaker 2>personally to them and professionally in the next coming years.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was a great moment for for us. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it's professionals to cover something, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of that magnitude. For me, it was, you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the highlights. Everyone asked me, you know, what were

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<v Speaker 2>the top things you covered? And that's usually you know,

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<v Speaker 2>one or two for me in all those years, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was it was a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, No, it was a wild ride, right and

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<v Speaker 1>then guess what next year they had a better chance

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<v Speaker 1>in winning the thing, and they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And we were so prepared the next year because we

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<v Speaker 2>weren't prepared that first year, right, you know, and the

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<v Speaker 2>next year we're standing out. You're like, you guys, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean the newspaper would always send you know, a handful

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<v Speaker 2>of people, but we've rarely sent more than maybe one reporter,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe two photographers. One of them would run that

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<v Speaker 2>satellite truck I was just talking about. But the next

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<v Speaker 2>year is like, oh, let's send out, you know, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the anchors and Dave and two or I mean

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<v Speaker 2>it was five.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was nearby, and it was nearby because.

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<v Speaker 2>Anaheim went to where was the first round that year?

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<v Speaker 1>You remember god Secrament, you know the year before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but anyway, it was, you know, the Anaheim trip.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we all drove, you know, we little caravan

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<v Speaker 2>and gun people drive it out there, maybe cheap, go

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<v Speaker 2>and get the hotels. What you mean you need like

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<v Speaker 2>three hotel rooms. That was always a problem in those years.

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<v Speaker 2>But because we weren't prepared, you guys, well, we were

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<v Speaker 2>used to were going out with you know, five or six,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was it was a different time. And now

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm watching I hate to, you know, downplay it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm watching the coverage the other night after the

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<v Speaker 2>last game, and there's one TV station there from Tucson.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody else you know.

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<v Speaker 1>It on TV station Bruce and maybe a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>the internet guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, amazing, amazing. You know, I was. I was upset.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a year or so before I left where

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't go and it was upsetting. You know, you

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<v Speaker 2>walk out into the newsroom and you look up and

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<v Speaker 2>you see these TV stations. You're the only ones that's

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<v Speaker 2>not in you know, whatever city.

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<v Speaker 1>It was.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, that was frustrating, But nowadays it's kind of like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Channel thirteen went and that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I don't think they went to the first round.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe there's like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a pick and choose how much I watch

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<v Speaker 2>now days it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a pick and choose, you know, you go one

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<v Speaker 1>day or one weekend or not the other. Luckily I

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to go to Seattle, but I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to go to New Jersey because I

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<v Speaker 1>just if they lost one game, it's what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>am I spinning this money for just to come right back.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a long ways and same thing could have happened

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<v Speaker 1>in Seattle, but I just chose not to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It remind me of the year that I went to

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<v Speaker 2>d C and they lost that one game. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Kevin O'Neills, the West Virginia game. Yeah, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. And it was a late game too, so

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<v Speaker 2>it was a you know, a game. It didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>start till I don't know, ten o'clock eastern. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're sitting out there and they.

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<v Speaker 1>Want it was I went too many those losses, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>But the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fact that it was not like, you know, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have put them on it earlier. You know, Oh they're

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<v Speaker 2>a West Coast team, we'll put them on late. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it was a it was a late start

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<v Speaker 2>and at a late night and early morning flight to

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<v Speaker 1>M you know, the good old days and story of

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<v Speaker 1>media and covering, you know, because again you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a crapshoot.

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<v Speaker 2>You have no idea where you're going to wind up

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<v Speaker 2>going in most cases, right, I mean sometimes you kind

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<v Speaker 2>of had an inkling where you're gonna wind up but

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't really prepare. You couldn't really make plane reservations or

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that, and so all of a sudden you're

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<v Speaker 2>forking out money for a trip, you know, two or

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<v Speaker 2>three days late, short week.

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<v Speaker 1>Well for me, it would have been a two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars by myself, right a hotel getting their food, blah

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah. And that's like for you guys, who would

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<v Speaker 1>have been six thousand if you sent three at least,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, at least because you know, you got to eat,

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<v Speaker 1>gotta eat, you do. Yeah, they got to.

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<v Speaker 2>Part part of the part of the part of the process.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, So let me talk a ross in about

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<v Speaker 1>ten minutes, and then at the hour for seventeen hour,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk to Chuck Culpepper, a buddy of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's been on the show a few times. Very insightful,

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<v Speaker 1>bright guy Brooks for the Washington Post who covers college

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<v Speaker 1>basketball for the paper, and as he gets ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the Final Four, so just his thoughts on all this

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<v Speaker 1>on the transfer portal, we can't ignore that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many stories. I mean, you know, it really

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<v Speaker 2>is a shame that the portal opened up when it did,

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<v Speaker 2>and they couldn't have waited another week or so. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, it's taken away a lot of the coverage

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I mean, all I'm hearing about at least

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<v Speaker 2>these first couple of days. I'm sure it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>pick up is the portal. And you know, no one's

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<v Speaker 2>talking yet about the final four, which I'm you know

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<v Speaker 1>It's been doing that for a while. And no one's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, your team is going to be turned around

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<v Speaker 1>again next year. Here's the issue. I'm gonna give you

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons why money, playing time, discontent, I'll stop there. Three, well, four, coaching,

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<v Speaker 2>The we're still transferring. But now the nil situation when

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<v Speaker 1>Who in the right, let me ask you something in

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<v Speaker 1>How difficult was it to get two and a half

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<v Speaker 2>It was impossible. It was hard. I mean they had

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<v Speaker 2>And next thing, you know, you give somebody two million

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<v Speaker 1>That's my point I mean, how if you're out going,

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<v Speaker 1>When he's a heck of a good player, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Two point two?

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<v Speaker 2>What? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And then for how long? Well, just for this year.

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<v Speaker 2>nil situation everywhere is going to be kind of changing

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<v Speaker 2>here this summer. So we need to kind of keep

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<v Speaker 2>abreast of that, and we'll talk to some folks who

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be part of that, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>by July, actually July first, when the fiscal year swings

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<v Speaker 2>on campus. How that money is going to be spent? Like, say,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's gonna be the way it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to work. Just here's our nil pot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Just take it and I'll throw it in there, and

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<v Speaker 2>you guys use it however you want. So it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be interesting to see how that plays out. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna change.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to the twenty million dollars, twenty three million

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Just that's going to be decided here pretty

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<v Speaker 1>soon too. And that's that's going to happen. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>that's beyond the nil. Yes, or in a subsidiary of it. Yes, man,

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<v Speaker 1>to be an athlete these days.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, and get the money so early in your life.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you could be eighteen years old, seventeen years old,

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<v Speaker 2>next thing, you know, you've got your kind of set

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<v Speaker 1>For a while. Hell I had that money, I would

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<v Speaker 1>go away, I'd be set for life. I'd be investing

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Dave, You'd never know who I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gone, I'm out of here. But that's just the

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<v Speaker 1>way of the world, which makes crazy crazy no sense,

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<v Speaker 1>but perfect sense. I mean, I'm sure that back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day, the abandons and the people who were fighting

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, I mean you know they wanted money for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>Like sure, I think that was the main their jerseys

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're on video games and things like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right, of course, Dave. I want you to sell

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<v Speaker 2>me some corn dogs. You don't want to say we

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<v Speaker 2>sell me some cars, tell me you know I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give you the money before you sell me some cars.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the way it works. It's it's been a system

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<v Speaker 2>was money being exchanged different ways. Now it's pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>And you're gonna get an opportunity to play and then

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<v Speaker 2>make some money and maybe pick where you want to

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<v Speaker 2>play at least for a couple of years. You could

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<v Speaker 2>be like Kurk Creasy. You could go every year, change

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Rosboro, a longtime loud els An assistant. Was there,

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<v Speaker 1>US I give you the number. I just texted it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, he's gonna call us the joy of Live

422
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<v Speaker 2>Radio Live.

423
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, something'll know with the with the system today as

424
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<v Speaker 1>we got on and then now we're having issues, so

425
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<v Speaker 1>we'll just keep an eye on that phone. Oh yeah, no, no,

426
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<v Speaker 1>no issues. Did you get in sleep that night? I

427
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<v Speaker 1>probably got too, I remember, but I don't think I did.

428
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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember when we flew home. Probably not. Okay,

429
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<v Speaker 1>there back in the phone. Are you on here, Jim?

430
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<v Speaker 6>I still get excited when I hear one of my

431
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<v Speaker 6>songs playing in the radio.

432
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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, iHeart radio.

433
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<v Speaker 2>No I did.

434
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<v Speaker 1>Is young Airba?

435
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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't.

436
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<v Speaker 13>I was the number here?

437
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not sure what's going on? A wee on?

438
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<v Speaker 1>We're not blinking right, we're good, okay, cool. I want

439
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<v Speaker 1>to get him on. I got to get him on.

440
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<v Speaker 1>Got to get him on. I don't know why the

441
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<v Speaker 1>phones are acting back there, and it's right because he's

442
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<v Speaker 1>getting through right, we're not on a different channel. Okay.

443
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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to have him on my phone with

444
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<v Speaker 1>the with the phone on the microphone right on the

445
00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:48.920
<v Speaker 1>this this silence is killing me. Science is it working?

446
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<v Speaker 1>Nine one? I'll have him call again. Oh yeah, yeah,

447
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<v Speaker 1>we're here. Good good. You're on.

448
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<v Speaker 13>Thanks, Hey, Jim, how are you good?

449
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<v Speaker 1>We'll finally finally got the spone situation figured out. Hey,

450
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<v Speaker 1>we wanted to talk. I wanted to talk to you,

451
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<v Speaker 1>David and I Dave Silver here next to me about

452
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<v Speaker 1>the good old days and the night yesterday was the

453
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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight year anniversary. Obviously, Uh, what do you can

454
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<v Speaker 1>what can you tell me about the after after you

455
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<v Speaker 1>you win the thing? It's already April first. Did you

456
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<v Speaker 1>get any sleep before you left?

457
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<v Speaker 13>I don't know, see if you were, David, get out

458
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<v Speaker 13>a very small party in the whole lobby of the

459
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<v Speaker 13>hotel where we were staying, the Railroad carp Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two,

460
00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:42.160
<v Speaker 13>the lobby wasn't small. Three there were hundreds and hundreds

461
00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:47.119
<v Speaker 13>of people there, three or four. Nobody was exactly drinking

462
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<v Speaker 13>Coca cola or sprite. So it was a heck of

463
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<v Speaker 13>a party, big time. One thing that I do remember

464
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<v Speaker 13>that night, it's a personal note, but Luke said, Jim,

465
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<v Speaker 13>I want to talk to him, and it took me

466
00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:02.720
<v Speaker 13>back in some there and named me as associate head coach.

467
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<v Speaker 13>That night.

468
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<v Speaker 1>I remember that.

469
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<v Speaker 13>I remember, uh, you know, I've kind of been doing

470
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<v Speaker 13>a lot of stuff anyway, but to have that little

471
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<v Speaker 13>bit of an extra bump title was was nice. So

472
00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:16.079
<v Speaker 13>it was a huge celebration. Kids were, you know, our

473
00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:19.440
<v Speaker 13>kids along with some of the olden kids were out

474
00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:23.400
<v Speaker 13>cruising around, going to McDonald's. You know, nobody were worried

475
00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:26.160
<v Speaker 13>about the kids. But it was really a great night

476
00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:29.400
<v Speaker 13>and a lot of fun and seeing people. And you've

477
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<v Speaker 13>won a national title and you guys are both finding

478
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<v Speaker 13>out it's harder than heck to do it for use,

479
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<v Speaker 13>So that was quite a celebration.

480
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<v Speaker 2>I remember too, just the casualness. Do you guys remember

481
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<v Speaker 2>that the hotel was like across the street from the

482
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<v Speaker 2>arena and the players were supposed to take a bus

483
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<v Speaker 2>if I remember to go over and they're like, we

484
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<v Speaker 2>can just walk. I remember seeing I don't know if

485
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<v Speaker 2>Jim this is true, but I thought, I do remember

486
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<v Speaker 2>seeing some guys just like walking across the street with

487
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<v Speaker 2>their uniforms on, or just going over there to the

488
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<v Speaker 2>shoot arounds or whatever it was. It was such a

489
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<v Speaker 2>you know, different approach everybody else, so you know, kind

490
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<v Speaker 2>of all wired. Here's you know, the u of a

491
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<v Speaker 2>maybe not expected to be there having a good time.

492
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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, it was that way. Now we got back to

493
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<v Speaker 13>the hotel and then we had to go over there

494
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<v Speaker 13>for the Sears Cup presentation or something. So we went

495
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<v Speaker 13>back somewhere and I think a lot of the kids

496
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<v Speaker 13>did walk, but it was very close. We were really,

497
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<v Speaker 13>really handy. Now, we did ride a bus over to

498
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<v Speaker 13>the title game, but again it was about a three

499
00:23:27.160 --> 00:23:30.599
<v Speaker 13>minute ride, so that was kind of a casual, casual approach.

500
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<v Speaker 13>I'd agree with you there.

501
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<v Speaker 1>Did you know did you know in that bus ride

502
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<v Speaker 1>to the to the game? What was the mood? Did

503
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<v Speaker 1>you know that they were ready? That they were, you know,

504
00:23:40.359 --> 00:23:41.119
<v Speaker 1>just geared up.

505
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<v Speaker 13>There's if you know you're ready for We had our

506
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<v Speaker 13>pregame meal, which is four hours before the game, and

507
00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:52.119
<v Speaker 13>I said to my perimeter guys, I said, okay, go

508
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<v Speaker 13>up to my room and watch a little bit of

509
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<v Speaker 13>film now, just we have some time. Miles Simon up, Nope,

510
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<v Speaker 13>don't want to go. No, we were ready. I mean

511
00:24:01.240 --> 00:24:03.279
<v Speaker 13>he was geared up, ready to go at that time.

512
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<v Speaker 13>Well he finally did come in and sit down and

513
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<v Speaker 13>watch a little film begrudgingly, but they were you could

514
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<v Speaker 13>feel it. It was it was in the air. So

515
00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:14.519
<v Speaker 13>pregame meal and then on and just at that point,

516
00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:16.839
<v Speaker 13>you just couldn't wait to play, And I know that

517
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<v Speaker 13>was the same for the kids, just couldn't couldn't wait

518
00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:21.039
<v Speaker 13>to get on the court and play, and they knew

519
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:24.480
<v Speaker 13>what was at stake, and I think handled everything really

520
00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:25.079
<v Speaker 13>really well.

521
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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming you had the scout.

522
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<v Speaker 13>Here's me.

523
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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming you had the scout of that game.

524
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<v Speaker 13>I did. I did have the scout.

525
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what were they like? What were the top two

526
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<v Speaker 1>things that you said, Okay, this has to happen, and

527
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<v Speaker 1>this has to happen with them.

528
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<v Speaker 13>Well, one, technically, we had to handle their press. I

529
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<v Speaker 13>believe they were pressing quite a bit, so we had

530
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<v Speaker 13>to handle that. Covered that. But then they had this

531
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<v Speaker 13>kid Mercer, I believe all American, you have a really

532
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<v Speaker 13>great player. And they had some different sets that they

533
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:59.039
<v Speaker 13>were running for him specifically, So we spent a good

534
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<v Speaker 13>deal of time on and someday at the practice of

535
00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:05.400
<v Speaker 13>going over how we were going to handle this particular set.

536
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<v Speaker 13>And there were maybe a couple of variations of it

537
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<v Speaker 13>that they were running for him, so we had to

538
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<v Speaker 13>be sure we had those down. And then you know,

539
00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:15.240
<v Speaker 13>you needed to know the person or what their tendencies

540
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<v Speaker 13>were to some degree. So I thought we handled all

541
00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:23.880
<v Speaker 13>those pretty well, but particularly trying to get Mercer under control.

542
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<v Speaker 13>That was one of the real.

543
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<v Speaker 2>Keys, you know, even all those years ago, Like what

544
00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:29.839
<v Speaker 2>was a technology like in terms of you know, getting

545
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<v Speaker 2>information in film. You know, I assume you had some

546
00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:35.880
<v Speaker 2>going into that weekend, but not knowing really until the

547
00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:38.279
<v Speaker 2>day before or so the game that you really had

548
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<v Speaker 2>the concentrations on Kentucky just for that one night.

549
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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, well, you know, now we had actually it was

550
00:25:45.319 --> 00:25:48.599
<v Speaker 13>my son and a couple other guys were our video managers,

551
00:25:48.640 --> 00:25:52.440
<v Speaker 13>so we had quite a quite a storage backup film

552
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:56.400
<v Speaker 13>to get to. That wasn't so bad. Maybe the equipment then,

553
00:25:56.599 --> 00:25:58.319
<v Speaker 13>you know, it was the old vhs and it was

554
00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:01.240
<v Speaker 13>a little archaic compared to now. But we were able

555
00:26:01.279 --> 00:26:04.279
<v Speaker 13>to get on stuff right away, and so that was

556
00:26:04.680 --> 00:26:09.559
<v Speaker 13>that was key. And again you're in a quick obviously

557
00:26:09.720 --> 00:26:13.559
<v Speaker 13>you've done some film work before. Uh that game. I

558
00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:16.119
<v Speaker 13>mean we it was my scout, so I knew I

559
00:26:16.119 --> 00:26:19.000
<v Speaker 13>didn't have the game before, so I could spend a

560
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:21.640
<v Speaker 13>little bit of time on Kentucky. So we knew what

561
00:26:21.759 --> 00:26:24.839
<v Speaker 13>was coming. But it wasn't It wasn't like today, I'll

562
00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:27.799
<v Speaker 13>say that for sure, But we were we were pretty

563
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<v Speaker 13>well prepared and had a lot of film. I'm going

564
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<v Speaker 13>to guess on each of the films, each of the

565
00:26:32.200 --> 00:26:35.440
<v Speaker 13>teams and the you know, maybe the last sixteen we

566
00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:38.000
<v Speaker 13>probably had three or four or five tapes on games

567
00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:41.200
<v Speaker 13>because we were constantly taping games. So we weren't we

568
00:26:41.200 --> 00:26:42.319
<v Speaker 13>weren't way out of it them.

569
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<v Speaker 1>So now that we can talk about it almost thirty

570
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<v Speaker 1>years later, how we all know Michael Bibbi, right, we

571
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<v Speaker 1>all know we've watched them throughout the years. Now he's

572
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<v Speaker 1>going to be a coach of Sacramento State, But how

573
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<v Speaker 1>really in retrospect was he ready for this and and

574
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<v Speaker 1>how much did he step up? Because he played beyond

575
00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>his years.

576
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:06.240
<v Speaker 13>Yet way way away beyond his years. I've kind of

577
00:27:06.240 --> 00:27:08.880
<v Speaker 13>read some things recently and he's been a little bit

578
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:11.799
<v Speaker 13>more on social media and seeing everything. I mean, he

579
00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:14.720
<v Speaker 13>was a very you guys were there. He was a

580
00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:19.960
<v Speaker 13>very fool cucumber. He'd been well prepared. He was a

581
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 13>basketball kid all his life. His whole goal was to

582
00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.160
<v Speaker 13>get into the NBA, and his family and his mother

583
00:27:26.279 --> 00:27:30.640
<v Speaker 13>and everybody had worked hard to make it possible for him.

584
00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.079
<v Speaker 13>And then he came in with us for two years

585
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:35.599
<v Speaker 13>and the goal was to be with the best coach

586
00:27:35.640 --> 00:27:38.720
<v Speaker 13>available and try to get into the league. But I

587
00:27:38.720 --> 00:27:41.000
<v Speaker 13>don't know if you can be totally prepared for the moment.

588
00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:47.319
<v Speaker 13>But he was really ready, handled everything well, and I

589
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:49.319
<v Speaker 13>do think, to be honest with you, you'd probably have

590
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.359
<v Speaker 13>to give Miles a little bit of credit to Miles

591
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:54.960
<v Speaker 13>was a third year kid, he'd been through a lot.

592
00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.680
<v Speaker 13>He was a good leader, and I think Miles probably

593
00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 13>had a good effect on on Mike. And we had

594
00:28:02.759 --> 00:28:05.559
<v Speaker 13>four good perimeter guys, you know, with Jason Terry coming in,

595
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:08.359
<v Speaker 13>who was a good player, and so everything didn't fall

596
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:10.960
<v Speaker 13>on Mike. There were people there around to help him.

597
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 13>But he handled everything well, press getting the ball in bounds,

598
00:28:15.119 --> 00:28:18.039
<v Speaker 13>you know, everything, and shot the ball well. In fact,

599
00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:20.880
<v Speaker 13>the guys will tell you that if you really study

600
00:28:20.960 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 13>the film on the last basket at the end of regulation,

601
00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 13>try to win it. Miles took us to leave and

602
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:30.720
<v Speaker 13>tried to shot and Mike Bibby was open over in

603
00:28:30.720 --> 00:28:33.440
<v Speaker 13>the corner. And they still say Miles should have passed

604
00:28:33.440 --> 00:28:35.200
<v Speaker 13>the Bibby. Now I'm not sure.

605
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<v Speaker 1>I thought that's asking a lot. In fact that Jim,

606
00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:41.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you want to agree with me

607
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.960
<v Speaker 1>and Dave. I thought it had all things apples and apples.

608
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Bibby could have easily been the MLP two Yeah.

609
00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 13>No question, freshman point guard and you know how critical

610
00:28:53.200 --> 00:28:56.200
<v Speaker 13>that term is. Point guard. A lot of communication with

611
00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:01.480
<v Speaker 13>with coach and really a good team. So yeah, he

612
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:03.200
<v Speaker 13>could have been the MP no question.

613
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<v Speaker 2>What does it say to you to the fact that

614
00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:06.759
<v Speaker 2>these guys have all kind of gone into the coaching

615
00:29:06.799 --> 00:29:10.200
<v Speaker 2>business too, Did you think that would happen when you

616
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:12.480
<v Speaker 2>see Jason Terry coming in, you know, seventeen or eighteen

617
00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:15.519
<v Speaker 2>years old or Bibe that they would eventually be coaches

618
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<v Speaker 2>or assistant coaches? And Miles also, I mean it's quite

619
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:21.119
<v Speaker 2>a legacy just in the backcourt me.

620
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:22.519
<v Speaker 13>No, squirrely little guys.

621
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:24.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they become coaches.

622
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<v Speaker 13>Well, you know you guys again, you were both there.

623
00:29:29.319 --> 00:29:31.880
<v Speaker 13>Practices were technical. You guys think you could be there

624
00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:35.039
<v Speaker 13>a little bit more practices, a lot of teaching going on.

625
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:37.880
<v Speaker 13>They were in a good system. I mean, I've said

626
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:39.960
<v Speaker 13>this a million times and we don't need to belabor this,

627
00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:42.559
<v Speaker 13>but Rudelson was a heck of a practice coach. He

628
00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 13>was a great game coach, but his practices were phenomenal.

629
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:49.000
<v Speaker 13>The kids never got into games and were unprepared on

630
00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:51.960
<v Speaker 13>certain things that the opponents were going to run. So

631
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:55.279
<v Speaker 13>all these guys that are coaching were exposed to really

632
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:58.279
<v Speaker 13>good things. Again, on a personal note, I had a

633
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<v Speaker 13>squirrely little guy attached to my for three years that

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<v Speaker 13>I could never get in the film room without him,

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<v Speaker 13>that being the guy that U n LB.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, yes, yes, oh, they they were.

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<v Speaker 13>Exposed to some good stuff. And if they were mindful

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<v Speaker 13>and maybe thought about it someday, they certainly were in

639
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<v Speaker 13>a place where they got great, great backgrounds to be

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<v Speaker 13>really good coaches, you know, if they paid attention.

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<v Speaker 2>So Josh was already coach. Josh was already a coach

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<v Speaker 2>when he was here, right, Yeah, he was an unpaid coach.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you to and the interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>was in his own mind.

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<v Speaker 13>That was in his own mind, well okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, so you know what too. And no disrespect to

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<v Speaker 1>Michael d because he was fantastic during the year and

648
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<v Speaker 1>and and in doing what he did without Miles right

649
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<v Speaker 1>when because Miles was out, Uh that you did this

650
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<v Speaker 1>run in the postseason without him really playing?

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<v Speaker 13>Really well, yeah, that's that's truly true. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 13>I think we were to go back and watch. Defensively,

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<v Speaker 13>he was quick as a cat, as you guys know,

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<v Speaker 13>and I'm sure he was doing inadequate job defensively. We

655
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<v Speaker 13>didn't have time to go back and review past games

656
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<v Speaker 13>because you're moving on. But I'm sure defensively is okay.

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<v Speaker 13>He just didn't shoot it well and maybe he wasn't

658
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<v Speaker 13>aggressive as he'd been. And I know, I'm just certain,

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<v Speaker 13>I'm just guessing. I think he still is a little

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<v Speaker 13>bit disappointed in that particular aspect of what went on.

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<v Speaker 13>But yeah, now Jason Terrys, you know, up a couple

662
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<v Speaker 13>of couple of games in before the final four. I mean,

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<v Speaker 13>if it wasn't for Jason Terry, we would have been

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<v Speaker 13>long gone. So yeah, we were lucky that we had

665
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<v Speaker 13>Jason is our sixth man, and when Michael wasn't playing well,

666
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<v Speaker 13>he was right in there and did a heck of

667
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<v Speaker 13>a job. So we were lucky to have the group

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<v Speaker 13>of seven or eight top guys we had.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no question, And when you talk about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you became the associate after that and and you reminisce

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<v Speaker 1>about it, it is it twenty eight years? Does it

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<v Speaker 1>feel that long? And do you still reminisce about that

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<v Speaker 1>great time.

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<v Speaker 13>I'm reminisce about it a lot. But unfortunately, when you

675
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<v Speaker 13>wake up in the morning and try to get out

676
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<v Speaker 13>of bed at this stage, Steve, it's a little bit

677
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<v Speaker 13>harder than it feels like twenty eight years later. No,

678
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<v Speaker 13>you talk about it in the course. Josh is probably

679
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<v Speaker 13>my best friend in the associated with basketball, and we

680
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<v Speaker 13>talk about it quite a bit, and the guys are

681
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<v Speaker 13>proud of it. They had a big text chain yesterday

682
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:24.920
<v Speaker 13>and everybody was responding and excited and that we'll never

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<v Speaker 13>do again. I think Steve, you joined us, maybe even

684
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<v Speaker 13>in the huddle at the or what was that game

685
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<v Speaker 13>several years ago where everybody was down on the floor

686
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<v Speaker 13>and we put our hands in and some wise guys

687
00:32:36.359 --> 00:32:38.480
<v Speaker 13>said it'll never be done again. Then it won't right,

688
00:32:39.039 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 13>he's going down. That's not going to happen again. So

689
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<v Speaker 13>that's something that'll be with these kids forever, and they're

690
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<v Speaker 13>really proud of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, no question.

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<v Speaker 2>So now this part of your basketball coaching career has

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<v Speaker 2>taking you to a different situation. Can you maybe explain

694
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<v Speaker 2>how this has gone for you and just the excitement

695
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<v Speaker 2>level and still being involved, especially at high level and

696
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<v Speaker 2>getting back to the championship championship level.

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<v Speaker 13>Now, yeah, well it's really been good. I like Todd,

698
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<v Speaker 13>and I knew Todd to some degree before I went

699
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<v Speaker 13>out there, but he asked me out eleven years ago

700
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<v Speaker 13>now just to come out and put in the one

701
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<v Speaker 13>three one zone, which he knew he'd used. So I

702
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<v Speaker 13>stayed around a little bit more and did some shooting

703
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<v Speaker 13>with the kids, and then at the end of that

704
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<v Speaker 13>first year, he asked me if i'd want to join him.

705
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<v Speaker 13>So I've been with him now that again, this is

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<v Speaker 13>my eleventh year. It's really really been rewarding. I really

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<v Speaker 13>really like working with the young ladies and we've really

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<v Speaker 13>done I think it was even in the taper the

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<v Speaker 13>other day. Won over one hundred games in the last

710
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<v Speaker 13>four years and then culminated and being in the final

711
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<v Speaker 13>four and championship game this year more an interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 13>You know. We won the semi final game I think

713
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<v Speaker 13>one hundred and one hundred and fifteen to one hundred

714
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<v Speaker 13>and twelve, and we told our best defensive player to

715
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<v Speaker 13>play their best offensive player, and what we said is

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<v Speaker 13>hold her to under fifty four. You only got fifty three.

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<v Speaker 13>I mean, I've never seen and Steve and Dave. You

718
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<v Speaker 13>guys have got Derek Murdoch, I think Michale years ago

719
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<v Speaker 13>forty some and Jimmer for debt and calid Rees forty three.

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<v Speaker 13>I've never seen a shooting exhibition like this girl put on.

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<v Speaker 13>It was absolutely phenomenal. But we won a really really

722
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<v Speaker 13>exciting game and then David All we had in the

723
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<v Speaker 13>finals and I think probably I'm based on the game

724
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<v Speaker 13>of the night before a little bit tired, but we

725
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<v Speaker 13>were in the championship game and it was really a

726
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<v Speaker 13>good team that got better during the year and fortunately

727
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<v Speaker 13>got a few of those people coming back next year.

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<v Speaker 13>So really really enjoy it. Really like working with Todd.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want, you can say your age, but I'm

730
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<v Speaker 1>sure the women there keep you young. And then you

731
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<v Speaker 1>have an audience for your dad jokes and my jokes

732
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<v Speaker 1>are still awful.

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<v Speaker 13>Still try the same old ones, and yeah, they they

734
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<v Speaker 13>kind of know the age of The interesting thing is

735
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<v Speaker 13>they kind of look out for you a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Now tracking oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 13>All this time is going one way. They're making sure

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<v Speaker 13>my bag's in my car and now there they are

739
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<v Speaker 13>a good group. Really, we really had a good and

740
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<v Speaker 13>it's not only this year. We've had really sensational young

741
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<v Speaker 13>ladies out there to work with, so it's been really

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<v Speaker 13>a pleasure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, great stuff, great stuff. Well, Jim, thanks a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch for joining us. We wanted to talk about the

745
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<v Speaker 1>good old days, and thank you.

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<v Speaker 13>They're always good old days, even day.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks all right, Thanks, I'm Jim Rosborough, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>great guys in this town. Definitely let's take a break

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<v Speaker 1>for a little over, but no problem with that. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome back to about here on Fox Sports fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>fifty mci Rivera, your Dave Silver, your Kobe. That was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>I could go another half hour to tell you like that.

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<v Speaker 2>He's great. He was always always kind of the go

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<v Speaker 2>to guy when when you couldn't get the head coach,

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<v Speaker 2>you go to go to Rose and he'd give you

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<v Speaker 1>Right right. That's what made him so good, so good

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<v Speaker 1>with what he did. And it was it was unless

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<v Speaker 1>you knew where Loot was gonna be, you could get him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because he was always doing something. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>he says, and especially when he was retired, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when he's finally retired and and it was after his issues,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm more busy now than when I was coaching, because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wanted a piece of them.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's you know, the transition that Rossborough is made

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<v Speaker 2>to go from you know, high high level of Division

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<v Speaker 2>one men's basketball to junior college women's You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a big drop off, but it's great that

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<v Speaker 2>he's had an influence on these these women for all

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<v Speaker 2>these years.

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<v Speaker 1>If you want David, eventually you're gonna thank me because

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<v Speaker 1>you're retired now and when the more people want you,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna say, you know what, yeah, because you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be home with the clickers changing channels. And I wish

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<v Speaker 1>I was back on that radio show that you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. But for Ross, you know, he's older.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, we all forget our stuff too, you know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you got your key's wallet, like for me, like phone

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<v Speaker 1>key's wallet. Yeah, Folky's well, uh, for him, he's that guy.

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<v Speaker 16>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing that I thought Josh and I think

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<v Speaker 1>mistake and then who knows if his career will take

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<v Speaker 1>off now, you know, is he didn't have He didn't

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00:40:11.679 --> 00:40:16.320
<v Speaker 1>have Ros by his side to be that mentor to

843
00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:20.199
<v Speaker 1>help him coach. Does that make sense he didn't I

844
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:22.599
<v Speaker 1>don't know if he had that guy, but he didn't

845
00:40:22.599 --> 00:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>have Ross, and they were close, and I think he

846
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:27.760
<v Speaker 1>would have been able to help guide him to a

847
00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:29.079
<v Speaker 1>better career than he's had so far.

848
00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:31.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you were, you were around it closer than

849
00:40:31.480 --> 00:40:34.880
<v Speaker 2>I was. But when he was here Josh as an assistant,

850
00:40:35.559 --> 00:40:39.199
<v Speaker 2>and then he goes to Memphis with Caliparia and you know,

851
00:40:39.199 --> 00:40:41.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe he didn't get the leadership like you're talking about.

852
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Maybe Lout would have given him, or Ross would have

853
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:45.320
<v Speaker 2>given him, but calib PARTI maybe didn't.

854
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:49.079
<v Speaker 1>And then he was thrust into that spotlight real quick. Yeah,

855
00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:50.800
<v Speaker 1>not that she did. He didn't want it, right, because

856
00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 1>you want you want that, sure, that's why you go there.

857
00:40:53.119 --> 00:40:56.000
<v Speaker 1>But he didn't have that right hand man that Lout had,

858
00:40:56.039 --> 00:40:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and Lut was better, a better coach. I'll say this

859
00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 1>bluntly with Roz next to him, because when after Roz left,

860
00:41:03.800 --> 00:41:05.519
<v Speaker 1>it was kind of like he's just hanging out. You

861
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:06.880
<v Speaker 1>don't say it wasn't a better time.

862
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Weren't too many more years of success, right? But yeah,

863
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:11.280
<v Speaker 2>you're right, Josh, I think could have You know, we

864
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 2>could ask him someday, you know who was his you know,

865
00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:18.320
<v Speaker 2>coaching mentor you know, he always talked glowingly about his

866
00:41:18.880 --> 00:41:20.280
<v Speaker 2>U of a days, But I'm not sure how much

867
00:41:20.320 --> 00:41:22.480
<v Speaker 2>it was back and forth between you know, the U

868
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:23.440
<v Speaker 2>of A helping him out.

869
00:41:23.920 --> 00:41:26.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well he learned from some of the best and

870
00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously that's why he did it. There's one thing about

871
00:41:28.079 --> 00:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>Josh and he and I have been communicating the last

872
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:32.199
<v Speaker 1>few days after he got to you know, b John,

873
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:36.039
<v Speaker 1>he's he's a smart dude. He knows exactly what he's

874
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:39.880
<v Speaker 1>up to right what he's doing. And he Luke appreciated

875
00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:42.159
<v Speaker 1>him like no other because he did a lot for

876
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:45.280
<v Speaker 1>that team, taking after hours shooting and shooting and opening

877
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 1>the gym, shooting and shooting and shooting, and he was

878
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:49.599
<v Speaker 1>good what he did.

879
00:41:50.360 --> 00:41:52.199
<v Speaker 2>And I think a couple of people, I think even

880
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:54.440
<v Speaker 2>last week were sort of just say, you know, it's UNLV.

881
00:41:54.559 --> 00:41:56.119
<v Speaker 2>It's not like he used to be. But I still

882
00:41:56.159 --> 00:41:57.599
<v Speaker 2>think that's a pretty good spot.

883
00:41:57.840 --> 00:41:58.119
<v Speaker 1>It is.

884
00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:01.239
<v Speaker 2>No matter what they're going to be in the whatever league,

885
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:03.239
<v Speaker 2>they're in the Mountain West or they who knows where

886
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:05.519
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna wind up, there's still a marquee team and

887
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:07.599
<v Speaker 2>one of the most famous cities of the world, and

888
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:10.239
<v Speaker 2>there's dreams are going to be on TV with the history.

889
00:42:10.400 --> 00:42:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Were they great history or an interesting history? At least

890
00:42:13.679 --> 00:42:15.599
<v Speaker 2>you know you're the un LV coach. You know you've

891
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:17.480
<v Speaker 2>got a chance and you're gonna get players to come there.

892
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I would think he's a great recruiter.

893
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:22.000
<v Speaker 1>It would appear that they have nil money, right of course,

894
00:42:22.559 --> 00:42:24.760
<v Speaker 1>that said, you know we talk about this NLI and transfer.

895
00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. This is a dum dumbest that one

896
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:32.960
<v Speaker 1>your what do we got here? Things are just popping up? Okay, good?

897
00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:33.199
<v Speaker 9>Good?

898
00:42:34.039 --> 00:42:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Uh so so we know how important nil is, right

899
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 1>and how number ones have got to the fund? Do

900
00:42:41.119 --> 00:42:43.519
<v Speaker 1>you think that a school could we got a call? Oh,

901
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>we got to call hold that thought? Okay, thought, Hello,

902
00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you're on the air and I on the ball.

903
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Who's this?

904
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:50.039
<v Speaker 5>Hey?

905
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:54.159
<v Speaker 16>Hey Steve Howard, mister Silver? Hello, Yeah, how you guys

906
00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 16>doing how Yeah?

907
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:57.199
<v Speaker 13>That was great.

908
00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 16>That was the funny thing at the end when Rosboro said, yeah,

909
00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:02.920
<v Speaker 16>they helped me out to get my bags on the

910
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:05.199
<v Speaker 16>glass and things like that. That was really funny.

911
00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

912
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, but come on, Steve, even even mister Silver, we're

913
00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:11.800
<v Speaker 16>all young compared to him.

914
00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So let me ask you, Howard, because you

915
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 1>talked to us last time and you guys were all giddy,

916
00:43:16.280 --> 00:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>you and Ray and all that, But those sons doesn't

917
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:19.480
<v Speaker 1>look so good.

918
00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.119
<v Speaker 16>I'll forget it, Okay, I'll say something about the Suns

919
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:27.599
<v Speaker 16>bad stuff. Okay, Uh, the coach sucks first of all.

920
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.719
<v Speaker 16>And and the reason why b Hyu is so good,

921
00:43:31.199 --> 00:43:33.639
<v Speaker 16>why is it? I'll say something good about the former

922
00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:38.480
<v Speaker 16>Son The coach was the was the main assistant coach

923
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 16>of the former regime with the Sons. That's why b

924
00:43:43.199 --> 00:43:45.559
<v Speaker 16>Yu so good period? Is that coach?

925
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:49.039
<v Speaker 13>Okay, he coached from the Suns.

926
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>They've had issues with their coaches for a while now.

927
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:54.559
<v Speaker 16>Well, I know, but this guy is good because he's

928
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:59.039
<v Speaker 16>just he's got that the NBA background. It's really and

929
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:03.360
<v Speaker 16>he's good because of that former Sons coach. That's why

930
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.039
<v Speaker 16>Bu is going to be really good. And I gotta

931
00:44:05.039 --> 00:44:08.400
<v Speaker 16>always I always forget that he's there. I always forget

932
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:12.920
<v Speaker 16>he's their coach. So anyway, the other thing I loved

933
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:16.239
<v Speaker 16>when we won, when that that that good rebound.

934
00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:18.559
<v Speaker 13>Our team uh fruffled the loot's.

935
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Hair up, Ben Davis. Kevin Young is a coach you're

936
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:26.039
<v Speaker 2>talking about who is an assistant right.

937
00:44:26.039 --> 00:44:29.599
<v Speaker 16>Kevin mister Young? Yeah, Kevin Yeah, the kid. Anyway, the

938
00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.719
<v Speaker 16>other thing, I'm not gonna do it because they lose.

939
00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:34.840
<v Speaker 16>I didn't watch the first two U of A games

940
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:36.880
<v Speaker 16>this year. But of course why I watched Duke game

941
00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:40.079
<v Speaker 16>because the main thing I expected us to win both

942
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:45.320
<v Speaker 16>those games. And even even even Jay was saying that.

943
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:48.519
<v Speaker 16>Jay was saying, yeah, we're gonna get up against Stuke.

944
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:52.800
<v Speaker 16>We were looking a little bit ahead, right. And anyway,

945
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 16>the one thing I like about not having Jay, we

946
00:44:55.400 --> 00:44:58.039
<v Speaker 16>don't have to talk as much about you of a football,

947
00:44:58.360 --> 00:44:59.920
<v Speaker 16>no Dodgers and no Dodge.

948
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:02.599
<v Speaker 1>I'll let him know, let them know.

949
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:05.960
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, okay, well if he's not listening, guys, we'll talk

950
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:06.239
<v Speaker 13>to you.

951
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:12.199
<v Speaker 1>How Dodgers might not lose a game. Yeah, I hold

952
00:45:12.239 --> 00:45:16.320
<v Speaker 1>that thought. I was talking to you about hold that.

953
00:45:16.239 --> 00:45:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Thought, Josh, Vegas UNLV and having success there.

954
00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Having success there. Yeah, no, it'll come back to me

955
00:45:24.719 --> 00:45:25.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe No.

956
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:27.119
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, Vegas is Vegas, and they're going

957
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 2>to get major League Baseball. They're you know, they're getting

958
00:45:29.199 --> 00:45:31.639
<v Speaker 2>every sport. And for a while there it was basically

959
00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:35.000
<v Speaker 2>UNLV basketball was like major their major events.

960
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:36.760
<v Speaker 1>You and I have you've been with me when we

961
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.239
<v Speaker 1>had joshun Yeah, a couple of times, right, And because yeah,

962
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:41.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys have talked and I said, do you remember

963
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:44.320
<v Speaker 1>me asked saying that, Josh, why coach anymore? You got

964
00:45:44.360 --> 00:45:46.599
<v Speaker 1>a good gig with ESPN, you got a good life.

965
00:45:46.599 --> 00:45:48.559
<v Speaker 1>No one's harassing you on the sidelines. You know what

966
00:45:48.599 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. There's no pressure, And this is what he wants,

967
00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:52.679
<v Speaker 1>this is what he loves to do, this is what

968
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:53.320
<v Speaker 1>he's built board.

969
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, he had a couple of good runs

970
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 2>at Georgia Tech and at at Memphis, and he wants to,

971
00:46:00.079 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, be a successful coach. And he's still driven.

972
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:04.880
<v Speaker 2>He's not he's even fifty. I don't think he's fifty. No,

973
00:46:05.079 --> 00:46:07.119
<v Speaker 2>he's like forty seven. So he's you know, he's got

974
00:46:07.360 --> 00:46:09.679
<v Speaker 2>time to go back to TV. Yeah, and he's always

975
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>going to be good at that. Yeah, So you know,

976
00:46:11.519 --> 00:46:14.400
<v Speaker 2>if this doesn't work out, you know, get them go

977
00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:17.280
<v Speaker 2>back to one of the major networks again. He had

978
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:20.119
<v Speaker 2>a pretty good, pretty good chance to show his skills there.

979
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Right right, I don't know. Yeah, No, he's good at

980
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that too. Anybody want to call get in. We get

981
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:24.800
<v Speaker 1>about eight minutes.

982
00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean a lot of those guys go to television

983
00:46:26.599 --> 00:46:28.400
<v Speaker 2>and kind of rehab their careers. I mean, even like

984
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Seth Greenberg has been there now for a while.

985
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he'll never coach again, though, you don't think so.

986
00:46:33.320 --> 00:46:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Tom Crean, Tom Crean, same thing. They're there, they've lasted

987
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:39.599
<v Speaker 1>this long and if they haven't been hired shortly after

988
00:46:39.639 --> 00:46:43.119
<v Speaker 1>their TV they're they're pretty much done because who's gonna

989
00:46:43.119 --> 00:46:45.119
<v Speaker 1>who's gonna do that? Yeah, and then now you have

990
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the recent young kids coming up, the younger kids, and

991
00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 1>I consider Tommy that guy too. You have these younger

992
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:54.519
<v Speaker 1>guys on their assistant, the by the b YU guy,

993
00:46:54.880 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 1>there's they're all over the new up and coming people.

994
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:01.679
<v Speaker 1>The guy at Florida Golden Oh, and he would he

995
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:03.880
<v Speaker 1>looked just stistical a couple of years. He looked like

996
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:07.559
<v Speaker 1>he was twelve. Yeah, he's still in early forties. Sometimes

997
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing, Yeah, I mean that.

998
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:11.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those some of those coaches, I mean, even John

999
00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:14.559
<v Speaker 2>Shire do because you know, he's destiny to be there

1000
00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:16.199
<v Speaker 2>twenty years if he wants to stick around.

1001
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:19.639
<v Speaker 1>They're all over the place, and it's it's the Iszzo's,

1002
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:23.199
<v Speaker 1>it's themselves, it's the Barns and that. Are they going

1003
00:47:23.239 --> 00:47:26.400
<v Speaker 1>to deal with this NL stuff any longer?

1004
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:28.519
<v Speaker 2>I know, because we've seen kind of these football coaches

1005
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 2>have kind of stepped away because of that. So I

1006
00:47:30.199 --> 00:47:34.039
<v Speaker 2>don't know about basketball. I mean Miami Tony Bennett, Miami guy.

1007
00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:36.280
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, but he was up there in years.

1008
00:47:36.360 --> 00:47:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, this is one of the reasons give you

1009
00:47:38.519 --> 00:47:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the hell out this ship.

1010
00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean yeah, some of these coaches that have

1011
00:47:41.960 --> 00:47:45.199
<v Speaker 2>been around, they're probably just looking around today going what's

1012
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:47.280
<v Speaker 2>my team going to look like in five months?

1013
00:47:47.440 --> 00:47:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Look at it? Yeah, Indiana, but look at her.

1014
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Arizona's doing the same thing. And every time you go

1015
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.239
<v Speaker 2>on these you know, there's some of these Twitter sites

1016
00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:57.519
<v Speaker 2>and places like that that are just posting one after

1017
00:47:57.599 --> 00:47:58.440
<v Speaker 2>another after another.

1018
00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:01.039
<v Speaker 1>So this is what I was talking about. Okay, so nil,

1019
00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:04.079
<v Speaker 1>this is the reminder. Yeah, so nil. Everybody has it,

1020
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>wants it, needs it, blah blah blah. What if you

1021
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>think a team could not deal with nil and be

1022
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 1>all good to be good at it, be good, be

1023
00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.679
<v Speaker 1>good without it, good players? Yeah, probably not, not not

1024
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:18.920
<v Speaker 1>anymore in thinking that that's probably true. They did it

1025
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:21.800
<v Speaker 1>five years ago. But now it's the way the world

1026
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:22.159
<v Speaker 1>right now.

1027
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:25.559
<v Speaker 2>The money is there and it's available and it's open

1028
00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:26.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's.

1029
00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:27.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, that was a stupid statement, but let

1030
00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:29.920
<v Speaker 1>me say this too, because Tommy is this is what

1031
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.519
<v Speaker 1>Tommy's is known for, at least to the first four years.

1032
00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:35.360
<v Speaker 1>You get this players, develop them right, develop them to

1033
00:48:35.400 --> 00:48:38.480
<v Speaker 1>be good team. But then guess what, somebody that gets

1034
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the benefits some other school gets it.

1035
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:45.280
<v Speaker 2>Be sorry true and uh you know, I mean he

1036
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:48.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't didn't work out maybe as most fans hope with Townsend,

1037
00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:50.480
<v Speaker 2>but that was kind of what happened there. He's at

1038
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:52.679
<v Speaker 2>Oakland for all those years and he has one more

1039
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:54.519
<v Speaker 2>year to go and come to Arizona and you get it.

1040
00:48:54.760 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 2>You know, they got sweet sixteen. That's about it, right.

1041
00:48:57.599 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think they need to step up

1042
00:49:00.079 --> 00:49:03.599
<v Speaker 2>their grad transfers. I think I don't know, not to

1043
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:06.639
<v Speaker 2>pick on them, but you know they could do better.

1044
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:10.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm guessing yeah, I thought, though, you think those guys

1045
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:12.880
<v Speaker 1>would have been better because of what they accomplished in

1046
00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the postseason. He just didn't fit. Even before the season started,

1047
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:18.119
<v Speaker 1>I talked to one of the coaches and I texted

1048
00:49:18.159 --> 00:49:20.119
<v Speaker 1>them and saying that I really like this team because

1049
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 1>it looks like the pieces fit. This could have been

1050
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.039
<v Speaker 1>November or whatever, right and maybe after Red Blue I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember, and I said they just Townsend was hitting

1052
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<v Speaker 1>threes O case you solved that problem. He's a big body.

1053
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<v Speaker 1>Awakia was who what he was. He didn't disappoint I

1054
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<v Speaker 1>don't think no, but everything seemed to fit and then

1055
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<v Speaker 1>it didn't.

1056
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, and you know, you just don't really

1057
00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:45.039
<v Speaker 2>know what you're getting. You haven't watched them for you know,

1058
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:47.840
<v Speaker 2>four years, and you're just kind of hoping that, oh, well,

1059
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, a guy can transfer from you know, maybe

1060
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<v Speaker 2>a mid major and just move right into the Big twelve,

1061
00:49:53.440 --> 00:49:56.320
<v Speaker 2>which we saw how good it was, was much better

1062
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<v Speaker 2>than the Pac twelve.

1063
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<v Speaker 1>And that's the way the world's going to be, because

1064
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<v Speaker 1>where where would you recruit the kids that you're playing,

1065
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:06.079
<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna play with they're not gonna tray for

1066
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<v Speaker 1>to Saint John's here maybe if you give a lot

1067
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<v Speaker 1>of money, but you find him at the lower levels.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and in Asia and Europe, And if Tommy's going

1069
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<v Speaker 2>to continue to bring in guys from Estonia and places

1070
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<v Speaker 2>like that, that's you know, maybe that's going to be

1071
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<v Speaker 2>the The card that he plays at Arizona sounds like

1072
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<v Speaker 2>he's obviously he has connections there, so maybe there'll be

1073
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<v Speaker 2>another to Bellus or.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's his bread and butter. That's his bread and butter. Yeah,

1075
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<v Speaker 1>and I just hope that they stay.

1076
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<v Speaker 13>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Stefan could have probably made waves here in the year

1078
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<v Speaker 1>or two, but you don't. They don't think about year

1079
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<v Speaker 1>or two.

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<v Speaker 2>No, And it was hard as I mean, he was

1081
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<v Speaker 2>only out there for a few minutes really the entire season,

1082
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<v Speaker 2>so he was very, very raw. And you know, I

1083
00:50:45.639 --> 00:50:49.559
<v Speaker 2>think Tommy he's brought in some people who are pretty

1084
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<v Speaker 2>skilled from around the from around the world, so I

1085
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<v Speaker 2>would not be surprised if a couple more come in

1086
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<v Speaker 2>this next year.

1087
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<v Speaker 1>It's got that's the way he's played it so far. Yeah,

1088
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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what happens.

1089
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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're looking at all these transfers, great transfers

1090
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:05.400
<v Speaker 2>amongst the American schools. Meantime, Tommy's got you know, five

1091
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<v Speaker 2>guys lined up in you know, Eastern Europe that he

1092
00:51:08.480 --> 00:51:10.559
<v Speaker 2>thinks that might have a chance to play here.

1093
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<v Speaker 1>And with the hope that they blend in and do

1094
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.760
<v Speaker 1>what they do. Let me ask you. So we saw

1095
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>them go to the Sweet sixteens. First year lust to Houston. Uh,

1096
00:51:19.519 --> 00:51:22.920
<v Speaker 1>second year was Princeton. They lost their last year Clemson,

1097
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<v Speaker 1>and this year Sweet sixteen yees. The careers path Okay,

1098
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<v Speaker 1>you think for you that's tough. And then what do

1099
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<v Speaker 1>you think about the fans. The fans are never going

1100
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<v Speaker 1>to be happy. I don't think they want to. They

1101
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:38.079
<v Speaker 1>want to, they want more.

1102
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<v Speaker 2>And we've sat here and you know, talking to coach

1103
00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Rosboro about it hasn't happened for a long time. I

1104
00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:45.840
<v Speaker 2>think everybody's kind of frustrated about that. So I just

1105
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<v Speaker 2>think it's just a matter of time. I would hope

1106
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<v Speaker 2>that if he's just getting good players, they do somehow.

1107
00:51:51.760 --> 00:51:54.360
<v Speaker 1>Well he talks about he talks about.

1108
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<v Speaker 2>Get into a higher seed than a four seed and

1109
00:51:55.800 --> 00:51:57.199
<v Speaker 2>not have to play Duke right off the.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they get seed last last yeah, yeah, yeah, we're

1111
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:05.920
<v Speaker 1>there two or three yeah, two, and then the two

1112
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<v Speaker 1>against the Princeton right yeah.

1113
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<v Speaker 2>Right, So that was that was a fluke. I mean,

1114
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<v Speaker 2>you know, it doesn't happen pretty often.

1115
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<v Speaker 1>Everyone happened. It happens all hell breaks loose in general.

1116
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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, what else, what else do you want?

1117
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, he's getting into the These teams

1118
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<v Speaker 2>are always in the top twenty basically, and then you're

1119
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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a top four seeds.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to you, the fan, Dave, not you the

1121
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<v Speaker 1>pragmatic guy. Okay, we got to go with that.

1122
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<v Speaker 2>I'll think about it during the commercial break.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, come back, you got breaking news for
