Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Allen in for Willie
Speaker 1: Cunningham on New Year's Day, twenty twenty five, and it
Speaker 1: is not a happy one. I'll tell you what I
Speaker 1: don't know about you. But I went to bed last night,
Speaker 1: made it up a little past midnight, which is unusual
Speaker 1: for me. Everything's fine, looking forward to a day of
Speaker 1: football and subbing for Willie, and man, you wake up
Speaker 1: to this this morning and the story is rapidly changing,
Speaker 1: which obviously is understandable, but it's not changing for the better. Seemingly,
Speaker 1: it's changing for the worse. I wanted to let you know.
Speaker 1: At one o'clock we will be talking to FOP President
Speaker 1: Ken Kober about this. And you know, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to ask Ken specific questions or anything like that, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask him some general questions about the investigation.
Speaker 1: And you know, do local police officers work well with
Speaker 1: federal police officers. I think the probable answer to that
Speaker 1: will be not always. I know that's the way it
Speaker 1: used to be. But I thought it's getting better because
Speaker 1: I guess initially the local New Orleans Police department down there,
Speaker 1: local people said that this is terrorism. Well, the FBI
Speaker 1: spokesperson came out quickly and said, no, it's not. But
Speaker 1: now the latest I'm hearing is that the FBI has
Speaker 1: has changed on that. And part of the problem, I mean,
Speaker 1: as I see it, is this not just with this situation,
Speaker 1: but with others too. People want answers and damn near
Speaker 1: want the thing solved literally within two or three hours.
Speaker 1: Well guess what, people in real life life, it doesn't
Speaker 1: work that way. It just doesn't. I mean, these are complex,
Speaker 1: complicated things, and the news media sometimes I think maybe
Speaker 1: they can be a little bit irresponsible too. There's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with a reporter saying that, you know, guys, we
Speaker 1: just don't have anything to tell you now. We're working
Speaker 1: on it, and when we do find something out, we'll
Speaker 1: get back to you. That's not realistic, though, It's just
Speaker 1: not in a twenty four to seven news cycle. It's
Speaker 1: not you know, one network's trying to outdo the other.
Speaker 1: And as usual for me, I'm watching Fox News and
Speaker 1: I got it on in front of me with the
Speaker 1: sound turndown, obviously, and they certainly seem to be on
Speaker 1: top of it. The latest wrinkle in this thing. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if other news agencies networks are reporting this,
Speaker 1: but Fox is now reporting that the car or the
Speaker 1: truck I guess it was that the shooter, the killer
Speaker 1: was driving when he plowed into the cap crowd. I
Speaker 1: think it was a truck was seen crossing the border
Speaker 1: apparently earlier this week. It's got Texas plates. And I
Speaker 1: just heard as I was coming in here setting up
Speaker 1: that apparently it's one of those two ro cars that
Speaker 1: you know, he can rent for a weekend whatever. So
Speaker 1: a lot of things to continually play out. And then
Speaker 1: Fox is also reporting too that I have not had
Speaker 1: a chance to even read anything about this, so I
Speaker 1: don't want to say too much. There were separate shootings
Speaker 1: down there as well, with multiple fatalities. Now having said that,
Speaker 1: I don't think that is all that unusual. Unfortunately for
Speaker 1: New Orleans. They it's just become a real rough place
Speaker 1: in Bourbon Street down there in the French Quarter, just awful,
Speaker 1: you know. I got to tell you this is going
Speaker 1: back probably I don't know, about ten years or so,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more. My daughter went to school
Speaker 1: at spring Hill College, which is in Mobile, Alabama, only
Speaker 1: about an hour and a half two hours from New Orleans.
Speaker 1: We went down there for Marty Gras one time, and
Speaker 1: it was really cool, you know, to see all the
Speaker 1: floats and all that's so historic down there. However, Bourbon
Speaker 1: Street just got completely out of hand. And I get it,
Speaker 1: it was Marty Gras the whole deal, but just completely
Speaker 1: out of hand. And you know, I follow the news
Speaker 1: and I think the shootings down there have really really
Speaker 1: gone through the roof. And that's a shame too, because
Speaker 1: it's just I'm sitting here looking at it now on
Speaker 1: Fox News. It's just a beautiful historic place to go.
Speaker 1: But as always, you got a certain segment of society
Speaker 1: that's hell bent on ruining good things for others. So
Speaker 1: we'll see how that plays out. Again. Fox is reporting,
Speaker 1: and again I don't have any specifics that multiple people
Speaker 1: were killed in separate shootings that do not, at least
Speaker 1: at this point, appear to be related to the tragedy
Speaker 1: with the idiot driving into the crowd. Things will continue
Speaker 1: to play out on this thing, and we will keep
Speaker 1: you posted. We were told, and this is kind of
Speaker 1: the way it goes, that there was going to be
Speaker 1: a press conference at noon, so I shifted some guests around.
Speaker 1: I had Ken Kobra coming on at noon, Ken is
Speaker 1: now going to come on at one, and they are
Speaker 1: now saying that the briefing, the news conference is going
Speaker 1: to come on at two o'clock. So I guess we
Speaker 1: shall see. But I'll tell you, folks, not a good
Speaker 1: way obviously to start the new year. And you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of weapon the dude had.
Speaker 1: I thought there are some outlet reporting that it is, quote,
Speaker 1: you know, a weapon of war or that was the
Speaker 1: description of other descriptions of it. To guess what, we
Speaker 1: just don't know yet. And if it was, you know,
Speaker 1: something that is not illegal necessarily but heavily regulated, I'm
Speaker 1: sure we're going to hear the anti Second Amendment crowd
Speaker 1: coming out about it. And you know, here's the thing,
Speaker 1: and it's not really rocket science. I've said this from jump.
Speaker 1: That's not to say that you don't have reasonable restrictions
Speaker 1: on people that have guns. You have to have that,
Speaker 1: and I think we do have it, but there will
Speaker 1: be some and our president maybe one of them. He's
Speaker 1: done it before, to use this tragedy as something that
Speaker 1: you know, that as a tool to get the political
Speaker 1: change that he wants. That has not happened yet, at
Speaker 1: least but it's still early. I hope that doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: I hope the time is spent, you know, taking care
Speaker 1: of the families of those people that died in this
Speaker 1: horrible attack. And if you've ever been down there on
Speaker 1: Bourbon Street when it's just completely packed, really, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking that it's a good thing that
Speaker 1: more were not seriously injured or killed. Again reporting now
Speaker 1: is ten killed, thirty five injured. Two police officers were
Speaker 1: shot at. Thankfully no police officers have died. I don't
Speaker 1: know the extent of their injuries yet. I get the
Speaker 1: feeling that they're not life threatening, obviously, I hope so.
Speaker 1: But just a lot of jumble and everything else coming
Speaker 1: out on a day that, you know, people want to celebrate.
Speaker 1: There's some serious football on today too, with the Sugar
Speaker 1: Bowl being set in New Orleans. Not sure what time
Speaker 1: that one's set for, but there's some speculation I don't
Speaker 1: see how they could do it, but that they may
Speaker 1: not or may delay that game or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not down there eight forty five tonight.
Speaker 1: I was just advised the Sugar Bowl, so I mean,
Speaker 1: we shall see. I seriously doubt that they'll mess with that. Really,
Speaker 1: unless I don't know something. Obviously, there's a hell of
Speaker 1: a lot about this.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Perhaps the federal authorities and state authorities know some things
Speaker 1: that we do not know. We'll just have to see.
Speaker 1: We'll just have to see. And you know, initially too,
Speaker 1: and this is something I want to ask Ken Kobra about. Initially,
Speaker 1: it certainly seemed like the and the New Orleans PD
Speaker 1: were not on the same page because New Orleans PD
Speaker 1: put out pretty early on and they've had the chief
Speaker 1: on a couple of times. Seems like an elderly lady,
Speaker 1: but she sure seems to know what she's talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I shouldn't even say anything. I don't
Speaker 1: know the situation. But they got their wires crossed on
Speaker 1: whether it was an act of terrorism. Yet initially they
Speaker 1: said yeah, New Orleans PD said yes, FBI agreed with them.
Speaker 1: FBI then said no, it was not terrorism. Well now
Speaker 1: they're saying it is again. And guess what, folks, that's
Speaker 1: not unusual too. I mean, it's a fluid situation, it
Speaker 1: really is. And you know, this press conference that's allegedly
Speaker 1: coming off at two, they're going to get fifty million
Speaker 1: questions and they're not going to know the answer to
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Again, with this twenty four to
Speaker 1: seven news cycle we have now people want answers now,
Speaker 1: not just on this thing, but on other tragedies and
Speaker 1: things of this nature. And yeah, I was a cop
Speaker 1: a long long time ago, not very long was I
Speaker 1: a police officer, and I was never an investigator, So
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just kind of shooting from the
Speaker 1: hip here. It's very, very complicated these investigations. Now on
Speaker 1: this one, I mean, it's obvious who the suspect is,
Speaker 1: and you know, I almost want to say, folks, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say he was killed, And I guess
Speaker 1: maybe a nice way of putting it is I ain't
Speaker 1: going to lose a hell of a lot of sleep
Speaker 1: tonight about that. You know, your reap what's is so,
Speaker 1: But it is going to be interesting to see the
Speaker 1: background on this guy again if he were carrying and
Speaker 1: had a quote assault weapon close quote where there is
Speaker 1: really no definitive definition of the politics is going to
Speaker 1: start going through the ceiling again and you're going to
Speaker 1: get the anti Second Amendment crowd out there. And here's
Speaker 1: the thing about that too. And again this is only
Speaker 1: my opinion. However, that situation with gun control, you know,
Speaker 1: you want to blame someone for all the guns in
Speaker 1: this country. Guess who you blame. You blame King George
Speaker 1: of England back in colonial times for the way he
Speaker 1: treated the colonists, taxation without representation, a lot of other
Speaker 1: things too. And those people they didn't like it, and
Speaker 1: they knew at some point that something was going to
Speaker 1: happen and they were going to do something about it,
Speaker 1: and they did. And we are, we were, we are
Speaker 1: and we continue to be a well armed country. It's
Speaker 1: just the way it is. And you want to try
Speaker 1: to get that genie back in the bottle, forget it.
Speaker 1: Ain no way these people that complain about the so
Speaker 1: called weapons of mass destructure and I'm talking about firearms
Speaker 1: and other things. You know what, And I will say
Speaker 1: this for Gavin Newsom, he is the only one that
Speaker 1: I've heard calling for this. Guess what you do? You
Speaker 1: amend or get rid of the Second Amendment. Now I'm not, obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm not advocating that, but you know what, if you're
Speaker 1: serious about all this stuff, why don't you do that?
Speaker 1: There are constitutional ways to do it. And stop nitpicking around. Well,
Speaker 1: they won't do that because it's just never going to
Speaker 1: happen in this country. And there again, it takes another
Speaker 1: arrow out of their quiver to forward the narrative that
Speaker 1: they have. And you know, here I am talking about
Speaker 1: people shouldn't speculate, and I guess I'm speculating a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I guarantee you that's it's going to come out
Speaker 1: that way. If the weapon that he had was one
Speaker 1: that fits into those categories, I guess we'll just have
Speaker 1: to wait to see. You know, I guess I'm not
Speaker 1: that old. It wasn't too long ago that I can remember.
Speaker 1: You didn't have this stuff that often. You didn't have
Speaker 1: school shootings, you didn't have mass killings like this thing
Speaker 1: late last night. I mean, yeah, you had them, but
Speaker 1: nothing like you have now. And we have just become
Speaker 1: such a crass, crass society, and leave violent society out
Speaker 1: of the way for a while. The way we talk
Speaker 1: to each other, the the lyrics to certain songs, what
Speaker 1: you see on TV. And again I'm not being, you know,
Speaker 1: the old man in the corner bitching about today's generation,
Speaker 1: but we certainly have gotten crass as a society. And
Speaker 1: in the long run that can, and I think sometimes
Speaker 1: does lead into this type of thing. Maybe not this
Speaker 1: incident exactly, but just to kind of a thought that, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, we can do things like this. It's different.
Speaker 1: I got one thing here before I break, Thank you, Dave.
Speaker 1: I was just hand handed it from him. The New
Speaker 1: Orleans suspect is a guy by the name Well, here
Speaker 1: we go, sham sud Din Jabbar. Read into that what
Speaker 1: you want? Forty two years old, born and raised in
Speaker 1: Texas and was an army veteran. Multiple agencies on X
Speaker 1: that's where my producer got this, Dave Keaton. Multiple outlets
Speaker 1: on X are reporting that. So we shall see. Now
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here looking at look like a live police briefing.
Speaker 1: Maybe not. They're calling for the briefing to be at
Speaker 1: two o'clock. Anyway, we got to take a break. We're
Speaker 1: going to get normal a little bit here when we
Speaker 1: come back from the break. Unless something really really important
Speaker 1: breaks down in New Orleans. We're going to talk to
Speaker 1: iHeart aviation expert Jay Ratliffe about what's going on on
Speaker 1: that front, and we'll do that when we get back.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willie Cunningham seven hundred WLW, Twell
Speaker 1: thirty eight News Radio seven hundred WLW Mike Mike Allen
Speaker 1: in for Willie Cunningham on a somber New Year's Day.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you it's not something that we all thought
Speaker 1: we would wake up to. But life goes on, and
Speaker 1: so does the information we provide you. We're lucky to
Speaker 1: have on the line with us. Jay Ratliffe, who is
Speaker 1: the iHeart Aviation specialist. Jay, thanks for joining us this morning.
Speaker 2: Come back so if you work out, you know that.
Speaker 1: I know that, and I really do appreciate it. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you first, Jay, the tragedy in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: will that in any way affect air travel? I was
Speaker 1: just sitting here thinking about that. Will that affect it
Speaker 1: in any way?
Speaker 3: Behind the scenes, There'll be some things that will be
Speaker 3: taking place.
Speaker 2: That we won't see.
Speaker 3: We see this frequently when there's a threat of an
Speaker 3: attack or an actual attack. A lot of times we
Speaker 3: are from a security standpoint just a little bit more alert,
Speaker 3: thinking was that a distraction for something else.
Speaker 2: Bigger that might be taking place?
Speaker 3: So many times from a security standpoint, like if you
Speaker 3: have somebody that rushes through the TSA checkpoint that just
Speaker 3: runs through to try to avoid screening. Well, obviously you
Speaker 3: take care of that, but you're equally as concerned to
Speaker 3: make sure there's nothing else that.
Speaker 2: May be going on.
Speaker 3: Sure, the first thing is obviously the distraction, and you
Speaker 3: understand all about that given your long hosement background.
Speaker 2: You just got to keep your.
Speaker 3: Head on a swivel and anticipate things that could possibly
Speaker 3: take place. And that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: The passengers at the airport will probably see an increased presence.
Speaker 3: Some of that's cosmetic, simply to try to let people
Speaker 3: know that everything's under control, everything's going to be okay.
Speaker 3: It's not necessarily in response to a threat per se.
Speaker 3: It's a lot like when we hit and we had
Speaker 3: after the attacks of nine to eleven, when travel resumed. Yeah,
Speaker 3: after the four days, we had the National Guard positioned
Speaker 3: at airports at the security checkpoint, which again, the attacks
Speaker 3: weren't a result of a lack of security. There was
Speaker 3: no breakdown of security. The National Guard was there simply
Speaker 3: to try to reassure people that we're going to be traveling.
Speaker 1: You know, I got to tell you, Jay, and I
Speaker 1: told you this earlier in the week and then I
Speaker 1: want to get into what your thoughts on the top
Speaker 1: aviation news of twenty twenty four. But I gotta tell
Speaker 1: you this because I think people need to know. About
Speaker 1: a week or so go, I traveled to Mexico Port
Speaker 1: of Artas specifically flight problem. Yeah, it's great. Second time
Speaker 1: there anyway, CVG two Houston, Houston to Port of Iarta
Speaker 1: and the same thing back. I can't to tell you TSA.
Speaker 1: The job that they did was just phenomenal. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking traveling during holidays, you know this is going
Speaker 1: to be awful. It was not. And you know what
Speaker 1: I do, and I think I did it at every
Speaker 1: time I went through. If they are courteous, I will
Speaker 1: tell them after everything's done. Hey, I just wanted to
Speaker 1: thank you for being so courteous, and they certainly seem
Speaker 1: to appreciate that. I know they get a bad rap,
Speaker 1: so I just felt it was important to let people
Speaker 1: know I had a heck of a good encounter with them.
Speaker 3: Well or spoiled to CVG, There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: I've had to work with a team there a few
Speaker 3: times on just questions and answer kind of thing and
Speaker 3: procedures and some other types of things, and they're great
Speaker 3: and they work with the airlines on an ongoing basis.
Speaker 3: They're constantly seeing what the load projections are to making
Speaker 3: sure they've got adequate staffing. And when you and I
Speaker 3: do talk about the top aviation story of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: the TSA will not be the topic every single time.
Speaker 3: When we had record travel days of more than three
Speaker 3: million people a day traveling, not one time, not one
Speaker 3: time this past year did I ever have a segment
Speaker 3: on a breakdown to the TSA checkpoint. No lines out
Speaker 3: down the corner, around the corner, out down the street
Speaker 3: kind of thing. No massive backups at various airports. Now,
Speaker 3: sure it got congested at some airports on occasion, but no,
Speaker 3: they did a great job. And that's not by accident.
Speaker 3: You know, we had other issues obviously, air traffic control
Speaker 3: and other kinds of things that gave us some challenges
Speaker 3: for the year. But Mike, the TSA did a good job,
Speaker 3: and I just if they do something that they shouldn't
Speaker 3: have done.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about it.
Speaker 3: But believe me, I am very quick to always point
Speaker 3: out that the good job that that frontline team is doing.
Speaker 3: They had two and a half three million chances a
Speaker 3: day to make a mistake.
Speaker 2: Oh geez. And when you.
Speaker 3: Think about that and then the number of times that
Speaker 3: something happened. I mean, a story that I've not even
Speaker 3: talked about was some lady that was going through a
Speaker 3: security checkpoint and at eighty two restricted items in her
Speaker 3: carry on bag, so you know, eighty two please, It's like, hey,
Speaker 3: what's the record. I think I can beat it. But
Speaker 3: you know, the TSA is doing a good job. And
Speaker 3: you know, the agency I'm not a big fan of
Speaker 3: because when they first got started, I thought, why are
Speaker 3: we creating another government branch Because it wasn't a breakdown
Speaker 3: in security that was the attacks of nine to eleven,
Speaker 3: but it was designed to, you know, create that sense
Speaker 3: of calm. But all it did was give us another great, big,
Speaker 3: you know, government agency that I think two or three
Speaker 3: years after their creation, Mike, if I'm not mistaken, they
Speaker 3: held an annual banquet where they gave out lifetime.
Speaker 2: At even awards.
Speaker 3: They spent like five hundred grand on the party, and
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, I know we're in trouble if they're giving
Speaker 3: out lifetime achievement awards after three years.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense, Hey, in our remaining time, I
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you your thoughts. Jay Ratliffe on the
Speaker 1: top aviation news of twenty twenty four, lots going on
Speaker 1: at your seems.
Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, well we ended the year obviously with a
Speaker 3: flurry of aviation disaster. Yeah, making twenty twenty four the
Speaker 3: deadliest year of travel aviation commercial wise since twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: And obviously that's the focus now as it needs to
Speaker 3: be and should be a lot of unanswered questions on
Speaker 3: that South Korean plane crash. In fact, the two black
Speaker 3: boxes that have been recovered are really going to provide
Speaker 3: us a lot of information. We found out recently that
Speaker 3: the flight data recorder one of the two black boxes
Speaker 3: was damaged to such a degree that they're actually sending
Speaker 3: it back here to the United States with the NTSB team.
Speaker 3: They're gonna be able to extract that information here another
Speaker 3: cockpit voice recorder they're they're getting information from that. I
Speaker 3: suspect in the next couple of weeks we'll get an
Speaker 3: initial idea of what their thoughts are. It's going to
Speaker 3: be eighteen months, sixteen months probably before the final report,
Speaker 3: but Mike, a lot of unanswered questions on that and
Speaker 3: the biggest one to me is why that landing gear
Speaker 3: wasn't deployed for exactly aircret.
Speaker 1: And can I ask you this, Jay, And I don't mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just so curious about this. When you see the
Speaker 1: thing land the belly landing, you know, I'm the first
Speaker 1: time I saw, Man, this is great. These guys are
Speaker 1: gonna make it. It didn't look like they had a
Speaker 1: lot of runway left. Why would that building that they
Speaker 1: crashed into be that close in proximity to the runway
Speaker 1: or Am I missing a question?
Speaker 2: Well you're not.
Speaker 3: In fact, it was the most idiotic acidine thing I'd
Speaker 3: ever seen. You put a concrete barrier up at the
Speaker 3: end of an overrun section at a commercial airport that
Speaker 3: could stop a tank, and it was made of concrete,
Speaker 3: and it just if it's bricked, if it's cinder, if
Speaker 3: it's something. Most of the time when you're traveling, no,
Speaker 3: all the time when we travel and we look at
Speaker 3: the end of the runway, we see those ils antenna
Speaker 3: and they're there, and they normally are secured in such
Speaker 3: a way that they can break away if there's impact
Speaker 3: with an aircraft. This wall, I mean, yeah, the aircraft
Speaker 3: landed fast, it landed long, it was going too fast.
Speaker 3: But typically what would have happened was that aircraft would
Speaker 3: have just continued because it wasn't breaking, it wasn't catching
Speaker 3: on fire, and it would have kept going until it stopped,
Speaker 3: and then everybody would have got off and we would
Speaker 3: have had minor injuries, regardless of the mechanical and or
Speaker 3: crew air things that took place during that initial part.
Speaker 3: The crew brought it down, the wings were level, and
Speaker 3: they did everything from that standpoint that they should have. Now, again,
Speaker 3: the flaps weren't at forty degrees. We don't know why
Speaker 3: the reverse engines, thrusters apparently weren't engaged. We don't know
Speaker 3: why the landing gear wasn't down. We don't know why
Speaker 3: a bird strike and an engine normally doesn't call a
Speaker 3: hydraulic failure of the undercarriage systems and things like that.
Speaker 3: So plus you can drop the landing gear manually with
Speaker 3: a very quick pull of some things located right behind
Speaker 3: the first officer seat on that seven thirty seven. So
Speaker 3: I don't know what was going on, and that's why
Speaker 3: the cockpit voice recorder and the flight data recorder is
Speaker 3: going to give us the information we need, Mike, I
Speaker 3: will tell you this. In the thirty three years I've
Speaker 3: been doing this, we have had occasions rare or flight
Speaker 3: crews have forgotten to drop a laney.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 3: Now I don't know that that was the case here.
Speaker 3: We could have had a pilot with a medical episode
Speaker 3: at the worst possible moment.
Speaker 2: Wow, we could have had them.
Speaker 3: Rushing through a checklist because they were fearful that they
Speaker 3: were going to lose power in the one good engine
Speaker 3: they had. It could have been another series of mechanical
Speaker 3: problems that were totally unaware of at this point. So
Speaker 3: it could go in any direction. But I can tell
Speaker 3: you that the NTSB and that assisting the main investigation
Speaker 3: in South Korea, they're going to be looking at just
Speaker 3: a long list of things, and they'll allow the evidence
Speaker 3: to dictate the course of the investigation against something you're
Speaker 3: very familiar with, right, And they're not gonna have any
Speaker 3: pre drowne conclusions. They're going to go in and see
Speaker 3: where the evidence leads.
Speaker 1: That's the way to do it. We've got we've got
Speaker 1: about six minutes left other.
Speaker 3: Mike, I will say real quick, we will honor hopefully
Speaker 3: the lives of those that were lost by making sure
Speaker 3: every airport in the world does not have a concrete
Speaker 3: stop anything.
Speaker 2: It can at the end of a runway.
Speaker 3: Again, that's I know that we will at least see that.
Speaker 3: So those lives that were lost one hundred and seventy
Speaker 3: nine are going to make commercial aviation safer for other
Speaker 3: people around the world.
Speaker 1: That's a good way to look at it, Jay Ratliffe. Okay,
Speaker 1: what else went on in twenty twenty four Boeing?
Speaker 3: I mean it was the year of Boeing last year
Speaker 3: at this time. Actually it was the last week of
Speaker 3: December twenty twenty three. Boeing sent out a memo to
Speaker 3: airlines saying that some airline mechanics had reported loose and
Speaker 3: missing bolts and nuts on some of the rudder control
Speaker 3: systems of the Boeing seven thirty seven aircraft. Now, this
Speaker 3: caught a lot of a soft guard because they're like,
Speaker 3: wait a minute, how can you have what's called undertree
Speaker 3: hardware or loose bolts, nuts, what have you at different
Speaker 3: places of a rudder control system. Remember, that's what keeps
Speaker 3: allows the pilots to fly the airplane, the rudder control system.
Speaker 3: And we thought, uh, oh, are we going back to
Speaker 3: the Boeing of five years ago when they were rushing
Speaker 3: planes through production trying to keep up with the air bus. No,
Speaker 3: that that couldn't be the case, because they fired the CEO.
Speaker 3: They promised that they were going to change their ways,
Speaker 3: they were going to become the Boeing of old blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. And then we get that memo at the
Speaker 3: end of last year. Mike were thinking, oh, no, here
Speaker 3: we go again. Are they back to rushing things or
Speaker 3: did they ever stop? Two weeks later, the Alaska Airlines
Speaker 3: door plug falls out. Thank god nobody died in that situation. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden what took place was
Speaker 3: we started to find out yep thirty two whistle blow
Speaker 3: or whatever it is that came forward talking about parts
Speaker 3: that were rejected being used on aircraft to keep the
Speaker 3: aircraft going through the production line, people being rushed, parts
Speaker 3: being forced, those types of things, just a lot of
Speaker 3: things that required the FAA to basically blow the whistle
Speaker 3: and say time out.
Speaker 2: So Boeing had to stop.
Speaker 3: Delivering aircraft as this investigation was ongoing, and that meant
Speaker 3: airlines around the world that we're waiting for these new
Speaker 3: aircraft weren't getting them, so you had passengers affected, airlines
Speaker 3: affected since we had fewer seats in certain markets that
Speaker 3: meant higher fares as.
Speaker 2: Well, all driven by Boeing. This this year.
Speaker 3: Now, there were a lot of other, I think, big stories,
Speaker 3: but I think the one that impacted us the most
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four was Boeing. Because it's going to
Speaker 3: spill over into twenty twenty five and perhaps twenty twenty six.
Speaker 3: It's going to be really interesting to see how soon
Speaker 3: Boeing's going to be able to get back to a
Speaker 3: full production And Mike, if we can even trust them
Speaker 3: they're saying now that they're going to do But I
Speaker 3: don't believe I believed them five years ago, and I
Speaker 3: was an idiot, Jaycob. I never should have believed them
Speaker 3: when they gave us these paragraphs of promise on how
Speaker 3: they were going to do better after two Boeing airplanes crash,
Speaker 3: killing three hundred and forty some people.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, I mean, correct me if
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. They were for years and years and years
Speaker 1: Boeing the gold standard with that kind of thing. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you just laid out the problems. Are they ever going
Speaker 1: to fully recover from this. Do you think you're right?
Speaker 3: They used to be the standard. Nobody came close. They
Speaker 3: were the ones that led the world in safety. Other companies,
Speaker 3: even outside aviation, said we need to do things as
Speaker 3: well as Boeing because they were led by engineers, engineers
Speaker 3: who looked at safety being the number one priority at
Speaker 3: a talking point. Well, then it was taken over by
Speaker 3: being counters that started taking shortcuts. And since nothing happened tragically,
Speaker 3: human nature being what it is, people get complacent.
Speaker 2: Hey, we can keep making the ort cut. And this part, even.
Speaker 3: Though it failed an inspection, it's almost as good as
Speaker 3: a good part.
Speaker 2: So let's put it on. And the idea you send employees.
Speaker 3: To a scrap bend to pick out the best failed
Speaker 3: part to put on an aircraft because you don't want
Speaker 3: to slow down the production so you can try to
Speaker 3: keep up with your European competitor, air Bus. I mean, Mike,
Speaker 3: that's criminal to me. That and nobody went to jail.
Speaker 3: Boeing got the little slaps on the fine and all
Speaker 3: that other kind of guards, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Well I wish I would, but you know, they.
Speaker 3: Avoided all of the going to court by settling everything
Speaker 3: out right. The fact that they've got billions of dollars
Speaker 3: in defense contracts probably helped that to take place. But
Speaker 3: you know, asked me in five years, ask me in
Speaker 3: ten years if Boeing turned it around, because we're never
Speaker 3: going to know it, because you have people right now
Speaker 3: that are ex and current Boeing employees that are saying
Speaker 3: they're scared to get on their aircraft because so many
Speaker 3: things are put on there that shouldn't be and it
Speaker 3: scares them. And Mike, this is the last year was
Speaker 3: the only year I can ever that I've ever seen
Speaker 3: where people get to hold of me saying Jay, I'm
Speaker 3: avoiding a Boeing itinerary. I'm flying air Bus. I will
Speaker 3: fly whatever airlines I can, and I will I will
Speaker 3: make create my travel itinerary around, you know, just so
Speaker 3: I'm flying Airbus and Airbus only, or Airbus and Embryer
Speaker 3: or Bombardier. I'm not going to get on a Boeing
Speaker 3: aircraft because I don't trust them. And initially, when that
Speaker 3: happened after the last airline situation, I thought, now, okay,
Speaker 3: that's normal, it happens. But it kept going weeks and
Speaker 3: months and months after people kept saying the same thing,
Speaker 3: and they said, I was booked on an as aircraft.
Speaker 3: I get to the gate, they did an aircraft swap.
Speaker 2: It was Boeing.
Speaker 3: I said, no, thank you, please put me on another
Speaker 3: flight and another part of the day the airline accommodated me.
Speaker 2: But that's how serious I was.
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not saying take it quite that far, but
Speaker 3: I'm saying that's the fear in the traveling public with
Speaker 3: a lot of people because of the fact that they
Speaker 3: don't trust Boeing anymore. And the problem is Airbus right
Speaker 3: now has like nine thousand airplanes in back order. I'm
Speaker 3: rounding up a bit, so they really can't jump in
Speaker 3: and take the slack away for any future orders. Boeing
Speaker 3: has five or six thousand planes on back order. There's
Speaker 3: no real competition in that industry. So it would be
Speaker 3: nice if people could say, forget Boeing, I'm going to
Speaker 3: go elsewhere. But they're kind of stuck. Yeah, right, people
Speaker 3: like Southwest that only fly the Boweing seven thirty seven aircraft.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what I mean. Hopefully they get
Speaker 1: their act together. We got a couple minutes left here
Speaker 1: and this I'm just going to get selfish here. This
Speaker 1: is nothing more than my curiosity a story I think
Speaker 1: earlier in the week or last week where tragically a
Speaker 1: person died in the wheel well of aircraft. What the
Speaker 1: heck was the deal on that? If you know?
Speaker 3: Oh well, now it was a story that I was
Speaker 3: following because anytime I see that, it tells me how
Speaker 3: the heck did somebody walk across the tarmac at one
Speaker 3: of the world's busiest airports in Chicago, approach an aircraft,
Speaker 3: get into the aircraft well, and stay there without anybody
Speaker 3: ever seeing them.
Speaker 2: Now, we're spending billions.
Speaker 3: Of dollars on security inside an airport, and yet we
Speaker 3: have somebody who can easily access an aircraft. What if
Speaker 3: they just wanted to put something on that airplane and leave?
Speaker 3: So that was that's my first because I always think security.
Speaker 3: And then obviously my heart breaks for the individual who
Speaker 3: thought they could hitch a ride because they figured they
Speaker 3: can get on these airplanes, not knowing that when those
Speaker 3: suckers are at altitude it's fifty degrees below zero hypothermia.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, by the way, there may not be enough
Speaker 3: room for you, and that wheel retracts and you might
Speaker 3: get crushed. And you know, we have a situation every
Speaker 3: so often where somebody attempts to do this. The fatality
Speaker 3: rates about seventy eight percent over the last fifty years
Speaker 3: when people have tried this, and it's just a horrific situation.
Speaker 3: But it's also to me such an alarming situation because
Speaker 3: we're spending billions of dollars on security inside the airport
Speaker 3: and yet it can all be circumvented by an end
Speaker 3: of the jewel that walks out to an airplane and
Speaker 3: gets on it from the ramp and nobody sees it.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it, and I'm glad I got to
Speaker 1: answer ask you the question. Hey, we're out of time,
Speaker 1: Jay Ratlift, I would suggest people go to your aviation blog,
Speaker 1: Jay Ratliffe, Man, it's got everything in their top commercial
Speaker 1: aviation news stories twenty twenty four. As always, Jay, really
Speaker 1: appreciated and we will be talking a time brother, Okay,
Speaker 1: thanks all right, Jay ratlif Boy. Lots going on aviation
Speaker 1: wise in twenty twenty four. And you know, the hits
Speaker 1: just keep on coming for Boeing and who knows if
Speaker 1: they'll ever recover. Hey, we got to take a break.
Speaker 1: But when we get back, We're going to talk to
Speaker 1: Ken Cober FOP President. I'm gonna ask Ken some general
Speaker 1: questions about the tragedy in New Orleans, which is obviously
Speaker 1: still playing out, but I know Ken will have an
Speaker 1: interesting and informative outlook on it. We'll do that when
Speaker 1: we get back. Mike Allen and for Willy's seven hundred
Speaker 1: WLW New's Radio seven hundred WLW. Mike Allen in for
Speaker 1: Willie Cunningham on a sad and somber New Year's Day.
Speaker 1: You know, we've been talking about it all morning. And
Speaker 1: by the way, they are supposed to be having in
Speaker 1: New Orleans two PM update on what happened. They're supposed
Speaker 1: they were supposed to do it at noon, so I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be shocked at off it doesn't come off at two,
Speaker 1: but that's the plan. Anyway, Here to talk about it
Speaker 1: is FOP President, Lodge sixty nine, Ken Cobra. I just
Speaker 1: want to ask Ken some general questions about this. Obviously,
Speaker 1: as a police officer, he's got some good input to it,
Speaker 1: and Ken, thanks for sharing part of your holiday with us.
Speaker 2: Mike, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Hey, just in general, Ken and I'll have some specific
Speaker 1: questions but in general, your thoughts on this, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you're like me. You wake up this morning and boom,
Speaker 1: there is your thoughts as a veteran police officer on this.
Speaker 3: You know, it's somebody that has worked many, many of
Speaker 3: these large scale events in Cincinnati. It's this is absolute
Speaker 3: just officer's worst nightmare that's something like this happens.
Speaker 1: And if their worst nightmare, I would think plural police
Speaker 1: officers in planning something like this and policing something like this,
Speaker 1: I mean, my goodness. Well then you look at Times
Speaker 1: Square last night. I mean, I don't know how law
Speaker 1: enforcement is able to kind of look over that. But
Speaker 1: back to New Orleans, I mean, how does that happen?
Speaker 1: They know it's going to happen, not the tragedy, but
Speaker 1: they know that the parade and all that stuff's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: How they plan for that?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, like here in Cincinnati, we have our
Speaker 3: Special Events Unit that's comprised of about seven officers between officers, sergeants,
Speaker 3: and a lieutenant that they do threat assessments. They do
Speaker 3: these risk assessments one that plan these events. They they
Speaker 3: will actually look at, you know, wherever the footprint is
Speaker 3: and kind of go through, well where are we vulnerable
Speaker 3: and what can we do to mitigate those vulnerabilities? And
Speaker 3: here in Cincinnati may do an absolutely fantastic job, which
Speaker 3: is probably knock on wood, why something like this hasn't
Speaker 3: happened in since Anti sure?
Speaker 1: And I guess one point of contention down there already is, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, FBI and local police, is it terrorism or
Speaker 1: is it not? At first the local people, uh, New
Speaker 1: Orleans PD said yes, then FBI said yeah, FBI said no,
Speaker 1: then they flip that back again. I've always wondered this
Speaker 1: at something like that Ken Kober, who decides not necessarily
Speaker 1: that tag of terrorism, but who decides who's in charge
Speaker 1: and who's going to run the investigation?
Speaker 3: Well that's you know, that's the anomaly with some of
Speaker 3: these things, is you know, something.
Speaker 2: Of this scale and you know whatever. You know, the
Speaker 2: New Orleans.
Speaker 3: Police Department when they found their initially is probably why
Speaker 3: they ended up calling the FBI to come in, because
Speaker 3: this is more than just you know, some drunk that
Speaker 3: ran through a barricade and you know, hit some people.
Speaker 3: They realized it was much much more than that. And
Speaker 3: you know, with the FBI, they just have more resources.
Speaker 3: You know than a local police department would have.
Speaker 1: And then do they then become quote unquote in charge
Speaker 1: of the investigation at that point?
Speaker 3: Yeah, typically typically speaking yes, you know, if if you
Speaker 3: call in for other resources, then they kind of hand
Speaker 3: an investigation over to them and they will work hand
Speaker 3: in hand. But you know, once you call in, you know,
Speaker 3: the FBI, they're the ones that are gonna are going
Speaker 3: to be the ones that take the lead on this.
Speaker 3: And then you know, of course New Orleans will just
Speaker 3: be there for whatever they need to assist with.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, and I know back in
Speaker 1: the day, the answer to this was no, they don't
Speaker 1: play well together. But it seems like it's gotten better.
Speaker 1: Local police officers and not only have the high secret Service,
Speaker 1: federal agencies and even different police officers. Do they play
Speaker 1: well together now or I guess it's maybe an individual
Speaker 1: circumstance because back in the day they didn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was jealousy and rivalry and is that still the
Speaker 1: situation today?
Speaker 4: I think for the most.
Speaker 1: Part, they you know, they get along.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I spent four and a half years in our fugitive
Speaker 3: unit where we worked with the US Marshalls and it
Speaker 3: was a great It was a great relationship because they
Speaker 3: had resources that we didn't necessarily have access to, and
Speaker 3: then they would use us because well we're from Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: We know, you know, the neighborhoods and whatnot. So it
Speaker 2: worked well.
Speaker 3: You know, you look at like we of now our
Speaker 3: Crime Gun Intelligence Center, you know where they have FBI
Speaker 3: ATS DEA, that all these agencies that all work together,
Speaker 3: that build these relationships. So you know, the you know,
Speaker 3: the Indians per se all get together. It's sometimes the
Speaker 3: chiefs that don't necessarily see eye to eye, but the
Speaker 3: ones that are you boots on the ground doing the
Speaker 3: work typically do get along together.
Speaker 1: Sure, let me ask you what kind of training do
Speaker 1: officers go through for something like this? And I guess
Speaker 1: I'm more talking about the street coppers, the guys that
Speaker 1: are down there, some on duties, some probably work in details.
Speaker 1: How do you train for something like that?
Speaker 3: Ken, Well, the biggest thing, especially with large scale events,
Speaker 3: you know, there will be threat assessments. Like I said,
Speaker 3: we have people that are assigned to the FBI that
Speaker 3: will do these threat assessments and whatever information that they get,
Speaker 3: you know, they will certainly pass on to us at
Speaker 3: roll calls and say hey, look there's you know, there
Speaker 3: could be this potential event that could occur, or look,
Speaker 3: we don't have anything right now. Plus we have our
Speaker 3: real time Crime Center that is constantly going through social
Speaker 3: media and doing things like that to make sure that
Speaker 3: if there is something that could come up, they can
Speaker 3: give it in real time information to us. That way
Speaker 3: we could be on the lookout for you know whatever,
Speaker 3: you know, potential threat there could be.
Speaker 1: I don't want to ask you this too. In the
Speaker 1: military they call it an after action report. They probably
Speaker 1: do in law enforcement as well, to look at a situation.
Speaker 1: I remember the great Gene Ferrara, a former CPD GUYE
Speaker 1: terrorism expert, said, the most important part about it is
Speaker 1: the after action report because cops can learn at the
Speaker 1: academy in service training or whatever. They don't do it
Speaker 1: to assess blame necessarily, but they do it so they
Speaker 1: can train cops better. Is that accurate?
Speaker 2: Oh, it absolutely is.
Speaker 3: And like I said, our Special Events unit that they
Speaker 3: run october Fest tastes the Cincinnati Flying Pig, all these
Speaker 3: major events, and they will actually tell the officers that
Speaker 3: are working the detail afterwards, if you see something that
Speaker 3: we could do better. You see something that you could
Speaker 3: be of vulnerability or something that we can make this
Speaker 3: event safer. Please email to let us know, because they
Speaker 3: do after action reports for every major event and we're
Speaker 3: always trying to find ways to get better the gate
Speaker 3: vulnerabilities so we can make sure that these events are
Speaker 3: as safe as they can possibly be.
Speaker 1: Gotcha last question, and I'll let you go. There is
Speaker 1: a hue and cry literally minutes after these things get
Speaker 1: on the air. Let's all that how did this happen?
Speaker 1: Why did that happen? Why did the cops do this?
Speaker 1: Why did they do that? Do police officers get frustrated
Speaker 1: by that that the media seems to demand instant answers
Speaker 1: to these things, Well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we don't know what happened in New Orleans,
Speaker 3: but you know this, this culture has been created of.
Speaker 1: You know, we need to know right now.
Speaker 3: Yep, we absolutely have to know right now. And you've
Speaker 3: got a police department that has two of their officers
Speaker 3: that were shot in this event, plus you have this
Speaker 3: massive crime scene, you have this you know, this is
Speaker 3: world news going on, and they want to know absolutely
Speaker 3: right now. And what officers want to do is they
Speaker 3: want to make sure that they get this right. Share
Speaker 3: to find out exactly why these things occurred. You'll gather
Speaker 3: all the evidence they can so they give out accurate information.
Speaker 3: And I understand sometimes the media is like, hey, we
Speaker 3: want to have it right now right, You're just like
Speaker 3: this press conference getting pushed out. Yeah, this takes time,
Speaker 3: you know, we want to do things right.
Speaker 4: This isn't you know, this isn't some you.
Speaker 3: Know, law and order TV show where they saw the
Speaker 3: crime in forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And the cops people need to be patient.
Speaker 1: They want to get it right too. So hey, listen,
Speaker 1: I really really appreciate this, Ken Kemper, and we'll continue
Speaker 1: to watch the situation.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, thanks for having me my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Thank you. All right. That was Ken Cobra, President FOP
Speaker 1: Lodge sixty nine. And you know, I really did want
Speaker 1: to ask him that last question because I can imagine
Speaker 1: cops that get frustrated with you know, we need to
Speaker 1: know now, we need to know this, We need to
Speaker 1: know that. Anyway, we are waiting on that two o'clock
Speaker 1: press conference. I guess we shall see if it happens.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to take a short break here and
Speaker 1: then we'll come back. Mike Allen in for Willie seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW one twenty one News Radio, seven hundred Wow.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willie Cunningham. New Year's Day, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, And as I said, it's a sad and
Speaker 1: somber New Year's Day due to what happened in the
Speaker 1: French Quarter, New Orleans yesterday actually last night. And we
Speaker 1: are waiting on an alleged two pm press conference by
Speaker 1: the law enforcement groups down there. I'm presuming the FBI,
Speaker 1: New Orleans Police and other agencies will be taking part
Speaker 1: in it. We shall see. And you know what, if
Speaker 1: they had the postponent, I don't have a problem with it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd like to hear it and talk about it. However,
Speaker 1: if they're not ready, they're not ready, and you're not
Speaker 1: going to solve the damn thing in six hours. It's
Speaker 1: just not going to happen. And I get it. I
Speaker 1: know the media is only doing their jobs, but man,
Speaker 1: let the cops do their jobs too. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was great talking to Ken Kemper FOP president, just talk
Speaker 1: to him about it. Yeah, and I asked him about
Speaker 1: training and obviously, as Ken said they trained hard for
Speaker 1: something like this, But I think just kind of as
Speaker 1: an outsider looking in because I haven't been involved in
Speaker 1: law enforcement for a long long time other than you know,
Speaker 1: being a prosecutor. But it seems to me now, you know,
Speaker 1: going back from when I was on, cops are better
Speaker 1: trained now than ever. I mean, they're constantly doing in
Speaker 1: service training. Obviously, they get very good training at the
Speaker 1: police Academy. Again, you know, going back to the dark
Speaker 1: ages when I was on a long time ago, I
Speaker 1: think the police academy there, CPD's academy was one of
Speaker 1: the best rank ones in the country and they may
Speaker 1: still be. But they're better trained. Sorry, they're better equipped.
Speaker 1: I mean, cops are better equipped than they ever were.
Speaker 1: I mean, we had a thirty eight revolver and a
Speaker 1: night stick and a can of Maze. That's about it.
Speaker 1: They have better equipment now, what with tasers and things
Speaker 1: like that body cam that police officers have now, some
Speaker 1: of them don't like it, and you know what, if
Speaker 1: they hit it when I was on, I don't think
Speaker 1: I would have either. However, I have seen this on
Speaker 1: more than one occasion in cases that I've had, they
Speaker 1: tend to help cops if Mickey the momo is accusing
Speaker 1: a cop of beating him up or something like that
Speaker 1: and the cop didn't get the body cam. So anyway,
Speaker 1: my point is they're better trained, they're better equipped, and
Speaker 1: they're better paid than ever too. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the starting pay for CPD is now, but I know
Speaker 1: it's pretty darn good. Plus with overtime and off duty details,
Speaker 1: you can make a good living with that, and that
Speaker 1: says it should be now. Having said all of that,
Speaker 1: they still can't find people now that want to be
Speaker 1: police officers. And that just boggles my mind because keep
Speaker 1: on going back to the dark ages. But that's my
Speaker 1: only point of reference. You know what, I took the test,
Speaker 1: and we had to take it twice because we got
Speaker 1: laid off. It was done at the convention center. I'm
Speaker 1: not exaggerating, asked somebody that was there. There were twenty
Speaker 1: five hundred, three thousand people taking a test for I
Speaker 1: don't know, sixty seventy eighty jobs. Tops. That ain't the
Speaker 1: way it is now. They actually got to go out
Speaker 1: and find them, and I think that's in large part
Speaker 1: for the way that police officers are treated these days
Speaker 1: and the job they have to do, you know. And
Speaker 1: then I talked to Ken Kober about this about a
Speaker 1: week or so, a couple of weeks ago, not on
Speaker 1: subject to the tragedy in New Orleans, but on subject
Speaker 1: as to why you can't get cops. There is a
Speaker 1: group of wackos in the state of Ohio that are
Speaker 1: going around and I guess the Secretary of State signed
Speaker 1: off on the ballot language going around with petition trying
Speaker 1: to get on the ballot a constitutional an Ohio constitutional
Speaker 1: amendment to take away qualified immunity for police officers. Qualified immunity,
Speaker 1: just very briefly, is the immunity that a police officer
Speaker 1: has when he or she has to make a split
Speaker 1: second decision. And I'm not talking about two or three
Speaker 1: or four seconds, a split second decision on whether the
Speaker 1: u force or something of that nature. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: there are other examples too. They want to take that away.
Speaker 1: There are four states in this country. I don't have
Speaker 1: them in front of me that have already done that. Listen,
Speaker 1: you take that protection away from police officers, they will
Speaker 1: have to expose themselves to civil suits from disgruntled members
Speaker 1: of the community who think they were wrong. If somebody
Speaker 1: let's just say it's a bad shooting, a bad officer
Speaker 1: involved homicide shooting. If it was wrong the way it
Speaker 1: is now, they can sue the city. The city's the
Speaker 1: one with the deep pockets, not the cop. But these
Speaker 1: idiots want to change that to a situation where you
Speaker 1: can sue the cop personally. That's not right. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not right. What cop would want to get involved
Speaker 1: in that. I mean, you know, you take the job.
Speaker 1: You get on the job, maybe you make a mistake,
Speaker 1: or you make you do something that is inaccurately and
Speaker 1: unjustly perceived as a mistake. You could lose your house,
Speaker 1: you could lose your savings. You know, you could lose
Speaker 1: the money that you set aside for junior's college fund.
Speaker 1: It is just a horrible, horrible idea. You know, I've
Speaker 1: already talked about it quite a bit on my show.
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to do so because it is
Speaker 1: a bad, bad, bad idea. I don't have the name
Speaker 1: of the group in front of me that's passing around
Speaker 1: these petitions, but I'll get it out either tomorrow. I'm
Speaker 1: on tomorrow Tomorrow Friday for Slowany and then of course
Speaker 1: my Saturday show. But I guess that's just a long
Speaker 1: way of saying they're not getting people who want to
Speaker 1: be cops anymore because there's too much BS and frankly,
Speaker 1: too much risk to the officer. If a situation gets questionable,
Speaker 1: first thing they'll do, especially in the city of Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: they'll throw the copper under the bus. And that's just
Speaker 1: the way it goes. Unfortunately, again, we didn't have a
Speaker 1: problem long time ago getting the police officers, but boy
Speaker 1: they do now Again. We are waiting on a two
Speaker 1: pm press conference from the New Orleans Police Department, and
Speaker 1: I think I got something new here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, Mike, sorry to break in here, but we
Speaker 5: are now getting reports from multiple sources that they are
Speaker 5: going to be postponing the Sugar Bowl game. Betweet Notre
Speaker 5: Dame and Georgia. It's going to be pushed off until tomorrow.
Speaker 5: The New Orleans Superdome is now under lockdown after this
Speaker 5: morning what's being investigated as a terror attack. So no
Speaker 5: official announcement yet from the Sugar Bowl Committee. They tweeted
Speaker 5: out about an hour ago that they were going to
Speaker 5: be having these kind of discussions about what to do. Sure,
Speaker 5: but there are multiple atlets who are reporting that the
Speaker 5: game is going to be postponed until tomorrow, So I
Speaker 5: know our matt Ree is gonna have the latest and
Speaker 5: everything that's going down here in about sixty seconds or so.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Thank you, thank you for that news. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know I thought there would be a chance of that.
Speaker 1: I didn't think it would happen. You know what that
Speaker 1: tells me? And again, like everybody else, I guess I'm
Speaker 1: just speculating. That tells me that there's more to this
Speaker 1: than what we know already, or they might just be
Speaker 1: doing it in an abundance of caution so they can
Speaker 1: sweep it and be ready to play the game tomorrow.
Speaker 1: That's our society today. You know, one Yahoo can affect
Speaker 1: literally thousands and thousands and thousands of lives and their
Speaker 1: daily plans, not to mention the obvious ten people dead,
Speaker 1: thirty five injured, including two police officers. Hey, we got
Speaker 1: to take a break. Button. When we get back, we
Speaker 1: are going to talk sports with Moegger and obviously this
Speaker 1: will probably be the first thing we talk about. We'll
Speaker 1: do that when we get back. Mike Allen in for
Speaker 1: Willie seven hundred WLW. Hey, we're back, Mike, Allen in
Speaker 1: for Willie Cunningham on a New Year's Day that I
Speaker 1: don't think a lot of people are going to forget.
Speaker 1: People woke up in the morning, like myself, like you,
Speaker 1: I'm sure, and did not expect to see what we've seen.
Speaker 1: What appears to be a very very serious attack. Obviously
Speaker 1: a very very serious incident of terrorism, they are saying
Speaker 1: now down in New Orleans in the French Quarter, and
Speaker 1: I don't know. We are going to monitor at the
Speaker 1: two o'clock press conference that they said they were going
Speaker 1: to have has now been moved to be determined, So
Speaker 1: we'll see and if anything happens, we'll break in. But
Speaker 1: in the meantime, Hey, a lot of sports going on,
Speaker 1: a lot of football, and we're going to talk to
Speaker 1: our friend Moe Egger about it.
Speaker 2: Mo.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking time out of your.
Speaker 4: Day, of course, Mike, how are you happy to do year?
Speaker 1: You too, buddy? Thank you. Hey, I got to ask you.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you already heard. The Notre Dame versus Georgia
Speaker 1: game set for eight forty five, the Sugar Bowl, No, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the Peach Bowl, I guess has been postponed till tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen something like that happen before.
Speaker 4: Not for circumstances like this. No, I don't think any
Speaker 4: of us have. I mean, obviously, you know after nine
Speaker 4: to eleven, everything got shut down. We didn't have sports
Speaker 4: for about a week and a half. We've had the
Speaker 4: weather related issues. I can't recall anything like this. I'm
Speaker 4: interested in knowing or finding out if they believe and
Speaker 4: we're all speculating here, if there was a credible threat
Speaker 4: to the Superdome tonight, to the game itself. But no,
Speaker 4: I can't recall anything like this, and I'm interested in
Speaker 4: finding out more. It's obviously a terrible.
Speaker 1: Situation, absolutely, and one that obviously no one expects. I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm shooting from the hip here, mo. But it
Speaker 1: seems to me that if they wanted to take that
Speaker 1: step something, they've got something that they know. And yeah,
Speaker 1: they wanted to have the twenty four hours or so
Speaker 1: to clear it out, but we shall see. I gotta
Speaker 1: tell you, man, that's that's a game I was really
Speaker 1: looking forward too. We've got Texas versus Arizona State on.
Speaker 1: Texas is up fourteen to three six twenty nine in
Speaker 1: the first quarter. It looks like I'm sure you're monitoring
Speaker 1: that one as well.
Speaker 4: I am. Yeah, Texas is imposing itself offensively against Arizona State.
Speaker 4: Arizona State got the ball first, there was a big
Speaker 4: special team's mistake which allowed the Sun Devils to length.
Speaker 4: And there there's a game opening drive obviously settled for
Speaker 4: a field goal, and then Texas got the ball in
Speaker 4: the two play score a touchdown. This game had an
Speaker 4: eleven and a half point spread, and so far in
Speaker 4: the first half of the first quarter you could you
Speaker 4: could see why.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just a little bit that I've been watching.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Big one, big, big, big one.
Speaker 1: At five o'clock today, Rose Bowl, Ohio State versus Oregon,
Speaker 1: I think this is going to I'm gonna watch them all,
Speaker 1: but this is going to be one that you really
Speaker 1: want watch. What do you think?
Speaker 4: I think so?
Speaker 2: I think the.
Speaker 4: Winner of this game is going to win the national championship.
Speaker 4: You know, this is a rematch of one of the
Speaker 4: best games of the season, won by Oregon by a
Speaker 4: point over Ohio State. You know, if you were paying
Speaker 4: attention to the game last night when Penn State beat
Speaker 4: Boise State and frankly overmatched him, you see the inherent
Speaker 4: flaw in the system. Right, Penn State was seated sixth,
Speaker 4: they get a chance to play a higher seeded team
Speaker 4: in Boise State that was seated where it was because
Speaker 4: they give the top four seats to the top four
Speaker 4: highest ranked conference champions, and so the Big Ten runner
Speaker 4: up gets, frankly, an easier opponent in the quarterfinal than
Speaker 4: the Big Ten champ. Right, who is Oregon? And they
Speaker 4: play an Ohio State team. If you look at the
Speaker 4: four teams that won in the first round, I think
Speaker 4: the Buckeyes were head and shoulders the most impressive of
Speaker 4: the four. Their defense all season long has been terrific.
Speaker 4: What offense do we see today? Do we see the
Speaker 4: offense that had its way early on and late in
Speaker 4: the game again Tennessee. Or do we see the offense that,
Speaker 4: you know, frankly, looked like it was not very aggressive
Speaker 4: and kind of manhandled itself by Michigan in the in
Speaker 4: the regular season finale. I can't wait to find out today.
Speaker 4: I do think the two teams whoever emerges from this
Speaker 4: one in Pasadena is going to win the national title.
Speaker 4: And of the four games today and I was like
Speaker 4: you looking forward to a notre Dame Georgia, because I
Speaker 4: think that game is really interesting. But the marquee of
Speaker 4: the four for the Buckeyes.
Speaker 1: And Ducks, Yep, no question about it. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, and excuse my ignorance with it. Is there
Speaker 1: a chance if Ohio State wins and Notre Dame wins,
Speaker 1: that you have a national championship game with Ohio State
Speaker 1: and Notre Dame. With respect to the brackets, which I'm
Speaker 1: just not all that familiar with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Notre Dame is playing as the seventh seed.
Speaker 4: They are playing the two seed Georgia, and Ohio State's
Speaker 4: playing the top seed. They do not It's not like
Speaker 4: the NFL playoffs where they reseed after every round. So
Speaker 4: if Notre Dame were to win the game of the
Speaker 4: Sugar Bowl Game, the Fighting Iris would play in the
Speaker 4: semifinals and the Buckeyes would advance to the semifinals. And
Speaker 4: if those two teams won their respective semifinal games, those
Speaker 4: two schools would meet on January the twentieth, and at
Speaker 4: least in this part of the country. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: if they would care on the coasts, but in this
Speaker 4: part of the country that would be pretty massive.
Speaker 2: I tend would give you a.
Speaker 4: Great storyline because Marcus Freeman, the head coach of Notre Dame,
Speaker 4: is a former.
Speaker 2: Ohio State Buckeye.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. I'll tell you what. It's gonna
Speaker 1: divide the family. In the Allen family, my son Mike Junior,
Speaker 1: heard here on the Big One Sunday Nights, is a
Speaker 1: rabid Ohio State fan. I love Notre Dame, so that'll
Speaker 1: be a fun one for us, if, in fact, it
Speaker 1: comes off. I think you already answered this moment. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask you again. I didn't ask it this way
Speaker 1: last time. But the college playoff system as it is
Speaker 1: now first year. Yeah, their flaws, as you have accurately
Speaker 1: pointed out, But overall, Mough, do you think it has
Speaker 1: been good? Are you glad they went to it? Or
Speaker 1: is it something that should be scrapped.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: I think it's been a positive for one simple reason,
Speaker 4: and it has its imperfections, and they're going to tweak it.
Speaker 4: I think you'll see it doing a way of how
Speaker 4: they see the top four teams. I think they should
Speaker 4: take a good hard look at you know, in the
Speaker 4: first round games they were played on campus sites. I
Speaker 4: think they should take a good hard look at maybe
Speaker 4: making something like that possible in the in the quarterfinals.
Speaker 4: But what it has done more than anything else is
Speaker 4: I think it has given college football fans, more college
Speaker 4: football fans a belief that their program, their team has
Speaker 4: access to the national championship, right And I think the
Speaker 4: way obviously the way we did it in the DCS
Speaker 4: and the way we did it in the first decade
Speaker 4: of the college Football Playoff, with you know, a maximum
Speaker 4: of four teams, you had a lot of fans who
Speaker 4: felt like your team truly didn't have access to the
Speaker 4: national championship. And now I think everybody looks at the
Speaker 4: playoff as attainable. It's not unlike the NCAA Tournament in basketball,
Speaker 4: where every fan of every program in the country feels
Speaker 4: like our team can make the tournament. Now not every
Speaker 4: team is, you know, in the NCAA tournament has a
Speaker 4: legitimate chance to win the whole thing, and I think
Speaker 4: you have something similar here. You know, I don't think
Speaker 4: anybody looked at Indiana as a team that was going
Speaker 4: to win four games, but at least they're in. And
Speaker 4: so it's got imperfections, It's got some things that I
Speaker 4: think need to be looked at. I balked at the
Speaker 4: suggestion that they should expand to sixteen, because then I
Speaker 4: do feel like you water it down a little bit
Speaker 4: too much. And I do think you've had a devaluing
Speaker 4: of things like conference championship games, putting two teams that
Speaker 4: each are going to make the playoff. But at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, I think you have more fans
Speaker 4: who feel like thirteam has a chance to be in
Speaker 4: the postseason, and I think that's a good thing for
Speaker 4: the sport.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I mean, so far, I think
Speaker 1: it's gone pretty well, and I guess we'll just have
Speaker 1: to keep watching. Let me shift gears real quick. The
Speaker 1: NFL no games today, I don't think that I know of.
Speaker 1: But the biggie for us at least Bengals Steelers tomorrow
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock. And obviously I know the Bengals have
Speaker 1: to win out. Can you for myself and I think
Speaker 1: other people too, MO just go through what has to
Speaker 1: happen for the Bengals to win. I'm sorry to make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. What has to happen with the other teams?
Speaker 1: If you can let us know, that would help.
Speaker 4: Sure you know it's gone from something that was almost
Speaker 4: impossible to articulate for folks is something that I think
Speaker 4: has become pretty easy to articulate for folks and something
Speaker 4: that I look. The odds are not in the bengals favor,
Speaker 4: But you know, four weeks ago we thought, God, they
Speaker 4: need about seventeen different things to happen. Well, now they
Speaker 4: need three. The first of which is, obviously Bengals have
Speaker 4: to win on Saturday night. If they don't, their season
Speaker 4: is over. If they do, we're gonna be watching two
Speaker 4: games very closely, both of them in the four o'clock
Speaker 4: window on Sunday. The first one is Kansas City versus Denver.
Speaker 4: If Denver wins that game, the Broncos are going to
Speaker 4: be in the playoffs and the Bengals will be eliminated.
Speaker 4: The interesting dynamic there is, obviously, the Chiefs have sealed
Speaker 4: the top overall seeds, right, and so they have nothing
Speaker 4: to play for. They're probably not going to play their
Speaker 4: main guys. But I do think not playing your starters
Speaker 4: doesn't have to mean that the players who play aren't
Speaker 4: gonna play hard, right, So I do genuinely think that
Speaker 4: the Chiefs players who are in the game are are
Speaker 4: going to play as hard as they can. Are going
Speaker 4: to put forth good effort.
Speaker 2: We'll see, We'll see if.
Speaker 4: That adds up to a victory. The game is in Denver.
Speaker 4: The Broncos nearly beat Kansas City sixteen to fourteen a
Speaker 4: number of weeks ago, and so even a full strength
Speaker 4: Kansas City team may struggle with Denver. But the Bengals
Speaker 4: are going to need the Chiefs back to pull off
Speaker 4: the upset. And then they're gonna need the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 4: to lose to the New York Jets. And you know,
Speaker 4: Miami quite friends the Browns was not very impressive on Sunday.
Speaker 4: The Jets, who have nothing to play for against the
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills, looked like a team that had quit. I'm
Speaker 4: actually more concerned as a Bengals fan. I'm more concerned
Speaker 4: about what the Jets do than the Chiefs because the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: Chiefs are a good team. Good teams have good backups.
Speaker 4: Those backups will play hard. The Jets are a bad
Speaker 4: team that looks like it's quit. If that continues on Sunday,
Speaker 4: that's not a good proposition. But it's basically this. You
Speaker 4: need the Bengals to win on Saturday. You need the
Speaker 4: New York Jets to beat the Miami Dolphins, and you
Speaker 4: need the Kansas City Chiefs to beat the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 4: And if those three things happened, this team will be
Speaker 4: playing in Buffalo next weekend.
Speaker 1: We who would have thought, I guess five six weeks
Speaker 1: ago that that would even be a possibility. And obviously
Speaker 1: I don't follow it like you do, but I sure
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking playoffs at all. Mean that would really salvage
Speaker 1: the season, wouldn't it.
Speaker 4: You think, well, I think what's fun about it is
Speaker 4: if they were to get in. I don't think it's
Speaker 4: inconceivable to suggest that they could advance.
Speaker 2: In the postseason.
Speaker 4: You know, we talk about oftentimes in the playoffs, you know,
Speaker 4: teams you don't want to play. I think the Bengals
Speaker 4: are the quintessential team you don't want to play. If
Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills are sitting there is the two seed.
Speaker 4: The last guy in the world I want to see
Speaker 4: is a quarterback who is coming too my building in
Speaker 4: the postseason and won, and that's Joe Burrow. The last
Speaker 4: thing I want to see as a quarterback who has
Speaker 4: legitimate MVP bona fides, as Josh Allen of the Bills
Speaker 4: does as well. I don't know that that's what I
Speaker 4: want to see. So to me, that's really the fun thing.
Speaker 4: It's not like, boy, if they got in, that'd be
Speaker 4: a neat story and then they'd get destroyed. I think
Speaker 4: they'd have a chance to do some damage. And the
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills do not have a very good defense. We've
Speaker 4: seen what the Bengals have done on offense the last
Speaker 4: few weeks. And then if you can win that game,
Speaker 4: and we're getting a little ahead of ourselves, they go
Speaker 4: to Kansas City. And if you're a Chiefs fan, the
Speaker 4: one thing you know about Joe Burrow is that's the
Speaker 4: guy who's coming to your building in the postseason and won,
Speaker 4: and he nearly pulled off of victory Week two in
Speaker 4: Kansas City this year, And so I think the fun
Speaker 4: thing is to think about what they could do if
Speaker 4: they did get in. But in order to get in,
Speaker 4: they need help fight.
Speaker 1: Right, you mentioned Joe Burrow. I mean again, I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't follow it that much, but how can that
Speaker 1: guy not be the most valuable player. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: leading the league in passing ours four six hundred and
Speaker 1: forty one. The guy's right behind him. I forget whose
Speaker 1: name is as close to that, but I don't know
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that. Will he be the NFL MVP.
Speaker 4: He's probably not going to be, and that doesn't mean
Speaker 4: that he shouldn't be. But you know, Number one, there
Speaker 4: hasn't been a playoff or there hasn't been an MVP
Speaker 4: from a non playoff team since OJ Simpson in nineteen
Speaker 4: seventy three. His team went nine and five. We didn't
Speaker 4: have the expanded playoffs we do now, and so you know,
Speaker 4: you have to go back a half century to find
Speaker 4: the last time a guy won an MVP without appearing
Speaker 4: in the postseason. So history works against Joe Burrow. If
Speaker 4: you look at the recent history of of the award,
Speaker 4: the last eleven years, that's gone to a quarterback, and
Speaker 4: the quarterback who has won the award has typically been
Speaker 4: on an eleven win team, or a twelve win team,
Speaker 4: or a thirteen win team. And so what's gonna work
Speaker 4: against Joe is the other two leading contenders, Josh Allen
Speaker 4: and Lamar Jackson, are just on better football teams, or
Speaker 4: at least are on teams that have better records. Lamar
Speaker 4: Jackson has won the head to head matchups against Joe
Speaker 4: Burrow and against Josh Allen, so that plays in his favor.
Speaker 4: But I think if you're looking at Joe number one
Speaker 4: statistically this season, he's had no peer. I think if
Speaker 4: you're looking for the player who has had to overcome
Speaker 4: the most, nothing against Josh Allen, who's a marvelous player
Speaker 4: on a Bill team that doesn't have a great defense.
Speaker 4: Nothing against Lamar Jackson, who is a two time MVP
Speaker 4: and a tremendous player. Joe Burrow is playing on a
Speaker 4: team where, offensively, I think takes the field every week
Speaker 4: knowing two things. A. I've got to prop up a
Speaker 4: bad defense and B I'm gonna get hit a lot
Speaker 4: or I'm at least going to be chased a lot
Speaker 4: because I don't play behind a very good offensive line,
Speaker 4: and so I think it's bad. I think it's also
Speaker 4: the moments he has come up big in, including obviously
Speaker 4: Saturday night in that game against Denver. I don't think
Speaker 4: he's going to win it, but the fact that you could,
Speaker 4: because I don't think we've ever done this before. I
Speaker 4: don't think we've ever looked at a player on a
Speaker 4: five hundred team and legitimately made his MVP case. The
Speaker 4: fact that you can for Joe does two things tells
Speaker 4: you how great he's been. Also tells you how the
Speaker 4: Bengals are on the verge of wasting that greatness this
Speaker 4: year if they don't get into the postseason.
Speaker 1: Yep, you know, I tell you, I got to answer
Speaker 1: you this question. Its apropos and nothing mo. But you
Speaker 1: think the Cleveland Browns are having some heartburn about Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield giving up on him too early Given what he's doing.
Speaker 1: I think he's like third in passing yards.
Speaker 4: He's been, to me, one of the really neat success
Speaker 4: to the NFL, because not only you know, not only
Speaker 4: did he get bounced by the Browns, he went to Carolina,
Speaker 4: didn't work out there, they got rid of him, girding
Speaker 4: the season two years ago, went to Los Angeles, had
Speaker 4: a cup of coffee with the Rams, and now he's
Speaker 4: proven to be the worthy successor to Tom Brady and
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay. He's got a nine figure contract, he's on
Speaker 4: the verge of getting the Buccaneers into the postseason for
Speaker 4: the second consecutive year. And you know, the Browns. The
Speaker 4: word out of Cleveland was, well, they wanted an adult
Speaker 4: in the room. Maybe but I watched the Bucks, and
Speaker 4: those guys on their offense seem to love playing with him.
Speaker 4: They've been very fun to watch. There's lots of reasons
Speaker 4: to kick yourself if you're a Cleveland brownsan Baker Mayfield
Speaker 4: has given him another reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I mean, they just can't win at quarterback.
Speaker 1: It seems like no matter what they do, it doesn't
Speaker 1: work out. And they're the Browns. So frankly, I don't
Speaker 1: really care. Hey, got a couple of minutes here, I
Speaker 1: want to just ask you about the Reds a little bit. Obviously,
Speaker 1: big big change, Terry Francona coming in as the new manager. Man,
Speaker 1: what a great get that was for the Reds. Would
Speaker 1: you agree?
Speaker 4: Anytime you can get a manager who's going to be
Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame, who has won big markets,
Speaker 4: small markets, he's one with a big payroll a smaller payroll.
Speaker 4: That's a good thing. I don't know that there's anybody
Speaker 4: in the sport who feels like he's more universally beloved,
Speaker 4: more universally respected. He has managed veteran players, he has
Speaker 4: managed younger players. I legitimately, as a diehard baseball fan
Speaker 4: as you are, Mike I've never heard anybody say anything
Speaker 4: negative about Terry Francona, Yep, the manager. I think though
Speaker 4: that in the two two and a half months subsequent
Speaker 4: to firing, to finding out that Terry Francona was going
Speaker 4: to be the manager, I think if you're a Reds
Speaker 4: fan and you're growing a little bit impatient with you know,
Speaker 4: what are they going to do to make the team better? Ye,
Speaker 4: I think that's completely fair. I like the acquisition of
Speaker 4: Brady Singer, a picture they got from the Kansas City Royals,
Speaker 4: because they needed and I think still need starting pitchers
Speaker 4: who have gotten through a full season without having to
Speaker 4: go on the injured list. But this team wasn't very
Speaker 4: good offensively last year, Mike, as you well know. And yeah,
Speaker 4: they're going to get some guys back who you know
Speaker 4: didn't play much or didn't play at all last season,
Speaker 4: and that's going to help. Still feel like they need
Speaker 4: a bat in the outfield, and they's still time to
Speaker 4: go get one. But I think a lot of us
Speaker 4: in early October thought at least by the time the
Speaker 4: calendar flips the twenty twenty five, they will have gotten
Speaker 4: that bet. And we're still waiting to see what Nick
Speaker 4: carl does.
Speaker 1: I guess you know. I mean, they did address some
Speaker 1: of their needs. The pitching, I think they addressed pretty well.
Speaker 1: Power hitting. You just talked about that. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess there's just nobody out there also, Mo.
Speaker 1: This will be the last question. The defense I checked
Speaker 1: last week when I was talking to Yiddy about it.
Speaker 1: The red I think are twenty seventh out of thirty
Speaker 1: in team defense. A guy like Terry Francona, he's going
Speaker 1: to crack the whip early on on, that, isn't he.
Speaker 4: I think so, because you know defense, it's not just
Speaker 4: measured in errors, right, That's a pretty basic way to
Speaker 4: evaluate a defense. I think sometimes it's thrown the ball
Speaker 4: to the right base, right, not giving up an extra
Speaker 4: base because the ball was misplayed, making the routine play,
Speaker 4: holding players accountable when they don't make the routine play.
Speaker 4: This team, I think you're exactly right. If you were
Speaker 4: to talk about last season, the part of the year
Speaker 4: that didn't get talked about nearly enough was it was
Speaker 4: a bad defensive team. And I think if you are
Speaker 4: likely to see an immediate impact made by a manager,
Speaker 4: it's there, It's right there, it's in that part of
Speaker 4: the team, not giving up extra outs, not giving up
Speaker 4: extra bases, making the routine play and again, and Terry
Speaker 4: Frankconer has talked about this, holding players accountable when they don't.
Speaker 1: Yep, all right, Moe really appreciates you taking time out
Speaker 1: of your New Year's Day to talk to us. Really
Speaker 1: do appreciate.
Speaker 4: It anytime, Mike, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, all right, mo Eger giving us the
Speaker 1: rundown on the bowl games, and of course now we
Speaker 1: have one Notre Dame Georgia, the Sugar Bowl, which has
Speaker 1: moved to tomorrow. Am I right about that, Dave? Yeah,
Speaker 1: same time tomorrow. That'd be eight forty five, So I
Speaker 1: know what I'm doing tomorrow. Hey, we got to take
Speaker 1: a break, but we'll be back. Not sure what we're
Speaker 1: going to have, still waiting on that police briefing, which
Speaker 1: now they're saying again is going to be two o'clock,
Speaker 1: but I'll believe it when I see it. Whatever we
Speaker 1: do when we come back from the news, I guarantee
Speaker 1: you it'll be interesting. Mike Allen in for Willie seven
Speaker 1: hundred WLW.
Speaker 2: Hey, we're back.
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willie Cunningham. Just for a few
Speaker 1: more minutes with me. Is the guy that's coming in
Speaker 1: after me, Dan Carroll?
Speaker 2: Dan, What a.
Speaker 1: Morning, Mike.
Speaker 6: You know, I want to say Happy New Year, but
Speaker 6: this is not the way the new year should start.
Speaker 1: It's not it's you know, so we can't have nice things.
Speaker 1: Man went to bed last night thinking, Hey, New Year
Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, woke up. Was not expecting this, you know.
Speaker 1: I was singing to myself.
Speaker 6: And one of the first things that occurred to me
Speaker 6: when I heard about this was that this is New Orleans.
Speaker 1: I know you've been there.
Speaker 6: I've never I've never been to the French Quarter, so
Speaker 6: I don't have that sort of situational awareness of how
Speaker 6: it's all laid out there. But I was thinking to myself,
Speaker 6: in New Orleans, they do this all the time. When
Speaker 6: you talk about having thousands of people walking around the streets,
Speaker 6: especially Marti grow when we do this in Cincinnati. Think
Speaker 6: about what happens in Cincinnati when we have the Opening
Speaker 6: Day Parade, when we have Tastes of Cincinnati, when we
Speaker 6: have Octoberfest. It is a nightmare trying to drive around
Speaker 6: downtown because there is no access to those streets right
Speaker 6: where those events are taking place. And if we can
Speaker 6: do that here in Cincinnati, it seems to me they
Speaker 6: ought to be able to do the same thing in
Speaker 6: New Orleans and prevent something like this from taking place.
Speaker 1: Well, you know me, I'm loath to criticize cops. However,
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Police Department does not have a real
Speaker 1: good reputation.
Speaker 2: No, they don't.
Speaker 1: I'm just putting that out there.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 6: And I've got Ken Kober coming up talk about this
Speaker 6: after the news of the earlierpective. Yeah, well that's good
Speaker 6: because you and with all the information we just got
Speaker 6: from the news conference there, and I think when you
Speaker 6: listen to what Senator Kennedy had to say, I think
Speaker 6: he's really given people a lot to read between the
Speaker 6: lines there, that there's a lot more to this than
Speaker 6: meets the eye.
Speaker 1: Right Well, and also throwing the gauntlet down with the FBI. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna support you. I'm going to support
Speaker 1: you for now. There is such a distrust among people,
Speaker 1: mainly Republicblicans of the FBI.
Speaker 6: Isn't that terrible? That's where we are in this country
Speaker 6: right now. You know, I don't want I criticize. I
Speaker 6: have criticized Alejandro may Orcus, the head of Homeland Security,
Speaker 6: from from one side to the other. I mean, up
Speaker 6: and down all day, every day. And I hate it
Speaker 6: that I do that. And Kennedy was taking a shot
Speaker 6: at me Orcus right there. He said, I've spoken with
Speaker 6: the head of Homeland Security, and he said, I tell
Speaker 6: I told him he's got to tell the American people
Speaker 6: the truth. Why because he hasn't been telling the truth
Speaker 6: the whole time he's been.
Speaker 2: The head of that organization.
Speaker 1: You know, when I was coming up in law enforcement, Dan,
Speaker 1: I know, I got a few years on you. The
Speaker 1: FBI was the top of the mountain, the peak, the pinnacle.
Speaker 1: And if anyone would have said, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: they might get political. They were so completely a political,
Speaker 1: so well respected and and the line guys still are.
Speaker 1: But the leadership, it's just a damn shame. And hopefully
Speaker 1: hopefully they can bring that back.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 6: I think a lot of that started with Komy when
Speaker 6: he was unable to when you're in a position like that, Mike,
Speaker 6: and I've been saying this for years now, when you
Speaker 6: are in a position like like where he was ahead
Speaker 6: of the FBI, and you have the occasion to speak
Speaker 6: directly to the president of the United States. You have
Speaker 6: to give the President of the United States unvarnished information
Speaker 6: that he can use to make that decision. Your politics
Speaker 6: has to take It can't even be in the rear
Speaker 6: very mirror. You have to totally divorce yourself from politics
Speaker 6: because your your duty to the country is far more
Speaker 6: important than any political considerations you might have.
Speaker 1: And he let himself because that's right. And prior to
Speaker 1: all that nonsense, they were and the same with DJ too,
Speaker 1: And I got a feeling Trump is going to do
Speaker 1: a deep, deep, deep cleaning on both of them and
Speaker 1: he needs to.
Speaker 6: Well, people are listening to us right now, Sougar Hoover,
Speaker 6: what about that? Well, you know I'm talking about you know,
Speaker 6: relative current history here. I'm not you know, I'm not
Speaker 6: going all the way back there because the issues that
Speaker 6: we have, what and you saw reflected in that news
Speaker 6: conference that we just watched, are based on what was
Speaker 6: happening when when Comber was in there and the FBI
Speaker 6: brought all this distrust upon themselves.
Speaker 1: Yep, got no one to think but themselves. Cash Ptel
Speaker 1: is an interesting choice for FBI director. However, having said that,
Speaker 1: I think he's going to go in there and kick ass.
Speaker 1: And I think Trump's going to back him.
Speaker 6: I hope so, yeah, And I think he and he
Speaker 6: should do it in the right way. And this this
Speaker 6: whole idea that well, when Trump gets in, you know,
Speaker 6: we should just move forward and move past all this.
Speaker 1: Well, whatever happened to the idea of justice.
Speaker 6: You do something wrong, there's no statute of limitations on
Speaker 6: murdering things like that.
Speaker 1: And I know, Daisy Lnas, we gotta go. Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: Mike Allen in for Willie Cunningham. Thanks Willy for letting
Speaker 1: me do this. I'm in at nine o'clock tomorrow, nine
Speaker 1: o'clock Friday after me Dan Carroll and he's here and
Speaker 1: he's ready to go right to rock Baby seven hundred
Speaker 1: wl Abia