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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Bridge. I am one

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<v Speaker 1>of your hosts, deal and I'm here with my real

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<v Speaker 1>tight homegirl and my daughter in law, the beloved Beetrice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here to talk sister wives, honey, and specifically

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the catfish.

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<v Speaker 2>We're finally here.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we've been talking about the catfish since we've

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<v Speaker 1>started our podcast. I think we've been doing this podcast

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<v Speaker 1>for what four or five years?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like four and a half at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. I know we've been doing this forever, but

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<v Speaker 1>like we've been talking about it from the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>we're finally here, Beatrice.

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<v Speaker 2>We made it.

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<v Speaker 1>We did make it. Before we get into this reecap,

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<v Speaker 1>we do have to issue you a disclaimer though, please

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<v Speaker 1>how'd your wife looks good? Room in the class. We're

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<v Speaker 1>in a reverend podcast. Obviously, we say stupid things. We

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<v Speaker 1>make a lot of jokes. Nothing is to be taken seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>and so live yourself. Get out here, William. You might

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<v Speaker 1>want to find yourself another dumpster. But if you're ready

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<v Speaker 1>to have Caleb ask Cody for Maddy's hand in grooming marriage,

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<v Speaker 1>then welcome to this dumpster.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, do you have to warn you? I'm on one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like energy is all over the place. I'm excited,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very tired. I'm about to be drinking. This could

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<v Speaker 1>get very wild, my debt.

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<v Speaker 2>They will.

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<v Speaker 1>So before we get into the recap, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, Beatrice, did you have any takeaways on this

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<v Speaker 1>the final episode of season nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've seen this episode before, but it's been a

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<v Speaker 2>minute and so rewatching it again, I can't get over

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<v Speaker 2>how they like edited the catfish conversation because like when

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<v Speaker 2>the adults are talking in Alaska, Mary's just like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what I want to do, so I'm gonna leave.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna do something, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it is. But she's not saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I was having phone sex.

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<v Speaker 1>I was having an actual emotional affair with a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who turned out to.

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<v Speaker 2>A woman a woman like, she's not saying that, but

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<v Speaker 2>then to the camera she's airing out all of the

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<v Speaker 2>catfish drama.

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<v Speaker 1>But even then she's skirting around things. She's not just

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<v Speaker 1>coming out plainly and talking about what happened. It was

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<v Speaker 1>really annoying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, super annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my takeaway is that I think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>very nuanced situation because Mary was really annoying me with

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<v Speaker 1>the way that she was communicating or not communicating. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, I had a lot of sympathy

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<v Speaker 1>and compassion for her because of what she has been

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<v Speaker 1>through in her relationship with Cody. So there's just a

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<v Speaker 1>lot going on. Yeah, I was feeling a lot. Me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I feel like it's gonna be a very interesting

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<v Speaker 2>discussion today me too.

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<v Speaker 1>So without further ado, let's get into our recap of

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<v Speaker 1>Sister Wives Season nine, episode twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve, twelve twelve and tot Mary Catfish. She got gone

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<v Speaker 2>by the internet, and I've got some shit to say

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<v Speaker 2>about that when we get to that, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you got a stupid a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh yeah, it's fine, she admits it.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually she does a little bit. But we resume the

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<v Speaker 2>last half of the Alaska vacation. It's like the fifth

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<v Speaker 2>day or whatever in Alaska. Everybody in the family is like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the best most fun vacation we've ever had

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<v Speaker 2>in our lives. Like everyone's super happy, especially Cody and Robin,

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<v Speaker 2>Like everyone's living their best life. We have like a

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<v Speaker 2>little scene where we have the older kids, Logan, Michelle, Caleb,

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<v Speaker 2>and Maddie go out to dinner or lunch or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>together and this was like kind of a nothing burger.

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<v Speaker 2>They're kind of like talking about their relationships and growing

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<v Speaker 2>up in polygamy, and Logan does talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>about how being the eldest boy in a polygamist family,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody just automatically assumes he's going to be a polygamist

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<v Speaker 2>as well. And actually this is why Michelle didn't pursue

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<v Speaker 2>him at first, even though she thought he was what

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<v Speaker 2>she then realized that he doesn't want to be a polygamist.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a one woman man, and so then she snatched

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<v Speaker 2>him right up.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. And then I think both Logan and Maddie asked

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<v Speaker 1>their partners whether they were nervous to meet the entire family.

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<v Speaker 1>Were they intimidated by Cody? And Michelle talks about how

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<v Speaker 1>she loves Cody. He's got such a fun, quirky spirit,

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<v Speaker 1>and Caleb's like, yeah, he doesn't intimidate me, not at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would he? Yeah, we're the same age.

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<v Speaker 2>Seriously though, it's kind of ridiculous. But I did find

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<v Speaker 2>it interesting when Maddie was talking about like her dating

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<v Speaker 2>experience in high school, because she said, you know, for her,

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<v Speaker 2>she would have boyfriends or whatever, and they would find

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<v Speaker 2>out she grew up in polygamy, and so then they

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<v Speaker 2>would just automatically think it was okay for them to

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<v Speaker 2>date other women while they're dating her, which is whack.

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<v Speaker 2>But she ultimately found Caleb. He sold me, Oh god,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like I'm looking at him and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>this dude is like a year younger than me. In

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<v Speaker 2>this episode, you know, and they don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be mean. Well, but he's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a schlub. I mean, he's kind of a schlub.

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<v Speaker 1>And Maddie's eighteen years old, yeah, or like nineteen years

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<v Speaker 1>old or whatever. She is, Like, she's a young chippy.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go out into the world. Man, are a

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<v Speaker 1>diim a dozen? Trust me? Like why are we attracted

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<v Speaker 1>to Caleb brush? But God bless, yeah, that's your life.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you're happy. But I mean, it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>he looks like a character from whovill. He just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of looks like a Marsupial I don't know. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like already balding. God bless, God bless. It happens, funny,

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<v Speaker 1>it does, right, it does.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know whatever. Then we hear from the adults

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit on the couch talking about Logan and

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<v Speaker 2>Michelle and Caleb and Maddie. And it's weird the way

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<v Speaker 2>that they're talking about it, because like Janelle seems a

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<v Speaker 2>little like worried or concerned about Logan and Michelle and

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<v Speaker 2>like whether or not they're gonna get married and what

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<v Speaker 2>their relationship's gonna look like. But when it comes to Maddie,

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<v Speaker 2>and Caleb. She's like super supportive. Everybody in the family

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<v Speaker 2>actually is super supportive and really excited about this twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Year old band. Why do you think that is. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like watching it, thinking like, maybe it's because

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<v Speaker 2>he was a family he was part of the family before,

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<v Speaker 2>and so they know that he's not creepy. But then

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, I'm like, it's still kind of creepy,

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<v Speaker 2>like the age difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but is he Mormon as well? I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>know if that's been established, because we know that Maddie

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<v Speaker 1>was not accepted into mainstream Mormonism. Yeah, and I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if Caleb practices. So I'm just wondering if there's some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of an alignment religiously because he's been around the

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<v Speaker 1>polygamist structure, he's safe. Yeah, he's a safe person to

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<v Speaker 1>be around. Maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's bizarre and it's actually interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>Robin's the only one that points out that disparity. On

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<v Speaker 2>the couch, she says something like, it's weird how we

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<v Speaker 2>have these two extremes, like we're super careful with Logan

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<v Speaker 2>and Michelle, but when it comes to Maddie and Caleb

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<v Speaker 2>were like super gung ho and excited and like already

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<v Speaker 2>planning their wedding. It's just kind of bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Michelle is an outsider for sure. Yeah, imperatively speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they are just distrustful because they don't know her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>religious extremists or something. It's just bizarre. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>have the family kind of splitting off into two groups

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<v Speaker 2>to do some various activities. We have Cody and Janelle

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<v Speaker 2>and a bunch of the kids going fishing, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we have Christine and Robin and I think Mary's there,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe she's back at the cabin talking to Sam.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But we have Christine and Robin and

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<v Speaker 2>some of the other kids going to do dog sledding,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's kind of cute. I guess, like the fishing

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<v Speaker 2>trip is fun. I would have rather gone fishing than

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<v Speaker 2>dog sledding for me, sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the fish looked amazing, Oh my god, fresh caught halibe.

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<v Speaker 2>And the salmon hitch. Yes, Oh, I would be eating

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<v Speaker 2>so good. And it looked like fun. Christine and Robin

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<v Speaker 2>they're dog sledding and on the couch they're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>commiserating a little bit, talking shit about how it's really

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<v Speaker 2>great that Cody's not there at the dog sledding arena

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<v Speaker 2>because then Cody would see how well behaved the dogs

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<v Speaker 2>are and want his wives to act well, behave like dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just like, whoa, you guys are telling on

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<v Speaker 2>yourselves a little bit here. And it was interesting how

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<v Speaker 2>Robin was like even playing into it. Yeah, and she

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<v Speaker 2>seems like she's genuine right, Like she seems like she's

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<v Speaker 2>totally shooting the shit with Christine and laughing and making

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<v Speaker 2>jokes about how Cody would want to treat them like dogs,

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<v Speaker 2>and Robin says something like, well, Nick, the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>holds all of these sled dogs treats them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and that's the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the difference. And I'm like, why is she

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<v Speaker 2>saying that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was kind of telling. And this is another attempt,

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<v Speaker 1>I think by Robin to align herself with the other

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<v Speaker 1>wives and sort of Kiki and say, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>he treats us like dogs. He treats us so badly.

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<v Speaker 1>But we know, yeah that at this time in the timeline,

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<v Speaker 1>she's absolutely getting favored and getting everything, So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that funny to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's just interesting to me that she feels

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable making jokes like that that put Cody in a

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<v Speaker 2>bad light because of her alliance and allegiances to Cody

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<v Speaker 2>only always like do you think he watches that back

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<v Speaker 2>and then gets mad at Robin for saying no, I

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<v Speaker 2>think he understands that she's being tactical. Yikes, that's so diabolical.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, anyway, so everybody goes vision and they do

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<v Speaker 2>dogs litting and Christine is loud and screaming, and Cody

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<v Speaker 2>on the cow talks about how Christine can't be quiet

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<v Speaker 2>at all. That's why she can't go fishing because she's

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<v Speaker 2>a loud ass bitch.

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<v Speaker 1>She's gonna scare all the fish. We were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this last week, how annoying she just.

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<v Speaker 1>Chill out, it's not that deep.

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<v Speaker 2>So then we returned back home to the little rental,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is where Caleb actually pulls Cody aside to

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<v Speaker 1>He seemed very sincere. Yes, and when he was talking

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<v Speaker 1>about his affection for Maddie and how she's his soulmate

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<v Speaker 1>like he's just loves her so much, Like I could

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<v Speaker 1>questionable nature around their meeting and courtship, like, I do

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I like the whole old fashioned like guy

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<v Speaker 2>goes asks the daughter to wait, Guy go ask the daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>Guy go asks the father right for the daughter's hands.

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<v Speaker 1>The patriarchy, I know for sure, but property.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. But it's cute though, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's cute. Tradwife Beatrice, No, Well, I

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, man, I should ask you for permission for

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<v Speaker 1>I just went, oh my god, i'd ever gotten drunk.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know that my husband actually asked my brother

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<v Speaker 1>really for his blessing, not permission, because that really is

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<v Speaker 1>misogynistic but as for my brother's blessing to ask for

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<v Speaker 1>But like I just I do like so sweet. I

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<v Speaker 1>do like that tradition, saying I like a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah maybe, like I obviously don't agree with women being

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that Caleb is earnest even though you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little way whenever age limit. Okay, it's weird,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're married now, they've got kids. It's a moot

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<v Speaker 2>point at this point. But Cody to the camera has

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<v Speaker 2>what I just thought, if Cody's like flamboyantly gay, I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>are you crushing on Caleb or something like it. He

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<v Speaker 2>is such a man, Okay, he's a real man. It's weird,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a little bizarre, strange. But then he talks about

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<v Speaker 2>how he gives full support because he thinks Caleb's a

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<v Speaker 2>good guy and you know, the whole family knows him

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<v Speaker 2>because he was his brother's brother in law or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he says marriage is the biggest challenge that

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<v Speaker 2>anybody can face in their life. And then he says

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<v Speaker 2>love it sometimes isn't always enough, because one day you

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<v Speaker 2>can love your partner, but then the next day they're

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<v Speaker 2>your enemy. And I'm like, ahm into West States, who's.

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<v Speaker 1>Your enemy today? All three of those original wives.

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<v Speaker 2>Ye. And then when they get back inside after the

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<v Speaker 2>fish because they're going to debone them or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 2>Grillam and Robin's there and she's pregnant. I will give

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<v Speaker 2>her this. She immediately pukes because of the fishy smell.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure people are like, oh my god, she's

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<v Speaker 2>so dramatic, But I'm like, she's pregnant this morning sickness.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if you know, you were looking with a more

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<v Speaker 1>cynical eye, you could ask yourself like is she stealing

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<v Speaker 1>the limelight from those who went fishing? And is she

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<v Speaker 1>to run off to throw up, Like is it real?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Maybe I just thought it was a

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<v Speaker 2>little crazy, like she goes and throws up and then

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<v Speaker 2>her kids go and comfort her too, which I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was bizarre, like Dayton.

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<v Speaker 1>Runs immediately as soon as she leaves the room, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>right behind her, which actually made me stop and think

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<v Speaker 1>about what that means for how they grew up with her,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and how they have this kind of caretaking

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<v Speaker 2>It's not healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not healthy at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not healthy for kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But also, I mean, maybe it's just genuine care and love.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it just felt a little strange

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<v Speaker 1>to me.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, it feels like unhealthy because it was Dayton

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<v Speaker 2>and then Aurora showed up right after, and then on

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<v Speaker 2>the couch, those three kids are like defending her and

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<v Speaker 2>being like, well, she's pregnant and she's sick and the

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<v Speaker 2>fish smells bad, and like like, Okay, your kids, chill out.

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<v Speaker 2>M m. You know, it's not a big deal. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not a big deal. But they grow up that fish.

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<v Speaker 2>It looked really good. I'm jealous. Yeah, And then we

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<v Speaker 2>have the conversation. We have the five adults, Christine, Janelle, Cody,

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<v Speaker 2>and Robin going out to dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>At Jack Spratt. I've been there before.

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<v Speaker 2>I was wondering if you had.

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<v Speaker 1>I had been there before. Yeah, it was pretty good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we had some seafood. It was it was tasty. I

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<v Speaker 1>love seas It's very expensive, but like, sure, very tasty.

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<v Speaker 2>So they go out to dinner and they start off

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<v Speaker 2>with a toast and Cody in particular, is in a

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<v Speaker 2>really good mood. He's like, this is the best vacation

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<v Speaker 2>that we've ever been on. I'm so glad our whole

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<v Speaker 2>family was here. Everybody is like in really light spirits,

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<v Speaker 2>except for Mary.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting in the corner, her face all red. Just something's

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<v Speaker 1>bothering Mary, and you can tell very odd energy. It

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just going to preface this by saying, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think that this was the right time for her

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<v Speaker 2>to bring any of this up.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think she brought it up because maybe shit

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<v Speaker 2>was getting leaked at this point and so she felt

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<v Speaker 2>the need to bring it up or maybe the producers

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<v Speaker 2>forced her to talk about it at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but sidebar, do we think or as a community

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<v Speaker 1>in a dumpster, do we think that everybody knew already

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<v Speaker 1>at this point? Because to me, if Mary is just

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<v Speaker 1>going to as a non sequitor drop a bomb like hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I might be leaving the family with absolutely no context

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<v Speaker 1>for that, Like that's a shocking thing to say. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but nobody at the table really seemed shocked. They were

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<v Speaker 1>more like, well, what do you mean? And how can

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<v Speaker 1>we take care of you? What do you need from us?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it just seemed like a strange conversation to have.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling, Well, if you believe the rumors,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know that Robin has been accused of knowing

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<v Speaker 1>all about the Catfisher, and through her friend Kendra, was

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<v Speaker 1>actually gathering intel on what Mary was doing with the Catfisher.

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<v Speaker 1>So Robin then passed that information along to Cody. So

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<v Speaker 1>before Mary even maybe even knew what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>with the catfish, they knew about what was happening. So

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<v Speaker 1>I just feel like, at least Robin and Cody know

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on. But I also just have a feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe Christine and Janelle know as well. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think?

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<v Speaker 2>My vibe was like, maybe they didn't know. Okay, now

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<v Speaker 2>that you're bringing this up, I'm like, I could see

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<v Speaker 2>maybe Robin and Cody, if we're to believe the rumors,

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<v Speaker 2>I could see Robin and Cody knowing, or at the

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<v Speaker 2>very least just Robin. Maybe she hasn't said anything. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. To me, it just felt really weird to

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<v Speaker 2>like glaze over the catfish at the dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's saying in her talking heads that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know about it yet. No, yeah, in this moment, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So she's not talking about the catfish. They don't know

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<v Speaker 1>about it a lot at all, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when Mary sits down, she starts off being like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's no surprise, I've been struggling with stuff, Like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>what stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a surprise to us because we thought

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<v Speaker 1>you were happy about the adoption and you were glad

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<v Speaker 1>at least for the legal marriage with Robin so that

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<v Speaker 1>the kids could be adopted. We thought everything was okay, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>And Mary kind of brings up things that would be

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<v Speaker 2>valid excuses, right, like Leon is no longer living with Mary,

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<v Speaker 2>but Leon hasn't been at home for two years, so

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<v Speaker 2>Mary has been alone for that long, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the divorce and everything. Like, she doesn't really name any

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<v Speaker 2>particular thing or any particular situation as a blame or

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<v Speaker 2>a cause for what she's feeling. She just says she's

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<v Speaker 2>going through shit. To the camera. She tells us that

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<v Speaker 2>she is so lonely and isolated that her house is

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<v Speaker 2>so quiet every single day that she wakes up and

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<v Speaker 2>has to turn music on just so she like doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>go crazy because her house is lonely. And to the viewer,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, Okay, obviously Cody's not coming over to your house, right,

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<v Speaker 2>He's obviously not even like hanging out with you or

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<v Speaker 2>having a dinner, like you are just alone and like

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<v Speaker 2>none of the family comes over to hang out with you. Now. Granted,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Mary has really like an open

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<v Speaker 2>door policy with the family, because I think was it

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<v Speaker 2>in Christine's book she had mentioned something like you have

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<v Speaker 2>to knock to go to Mary's house.

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<v Speaker 1>That was and Robin too. I didn't think Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Mary was similar. I don't know. Maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>was at the Lee High House. Maybe I'm talking out

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<v Speaker 2>my ass. But Mary says that she's super lonely and

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<v Speaker 2>isolated and she's just been feeling a lot, and she

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so let me comment here just because I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>the kernel of that is absolutely true. I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>after they were divorced, and actually well before that, Cody

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<v Speaker 1>had one hundred percent pulled away from Mary. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>she has every right to make a decision for herself

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<v Speaker 1>to leave that relationship because she's not getting what she needs.

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<v Speaker 1>She has sold a bill of goods and now she's

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<v Speaker 1>every right to be upset and to leave. However, it

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<v Speaker 1>felt to me in some of these interstitials or the

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<v Speaker 1>talking heads that she was kind of campaigning and setting

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<v Speaker 1>herself up to be a victim and getting the audience

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<v Speaker 1>to sympathize with what she's going through, although she never

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<v Speaker 1>showed it to us before this, so that's why it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hard for us to like say, well, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? Like, I'm sure if I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching back then, which I did, I think start right

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<v Speaker 1>around now, I didn't understand because well, I thought everything

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<v Speaker 1>united front. Now all of a sudden, you're telling me

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a haunted house, that you're living in the

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<v Speaker 1>original haunted house, that you're alone all the time, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I just felt like some of that

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<v Speaker 1>was duplicitous to me. And also the way she was

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<v Speaker 1>just skirting around how everything happened, and I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>If it were me, I would have been like they

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<v Speaker 1>got me.

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<v Speaker 2>I was lonely.

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00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:57.880
<v Speaker 1>And the fact is is Cody hasn't touched my punani

423
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<v Speaker 1>for years. I'm in a wife, I'm unhappy in this relationship,

424
00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:05.000
<v Speaker 1>and nobody gives a fuck about me. And so, yeah,

425
00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:07.359
<v Speaker 1>I made a mistake. I started talking to who I

426
00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:09.559
<v Speaker 1>thought was a guy, but turns out it was a chick.

427
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<v Speaker 1>You know, joke's on me. I feel like a fool,

428
00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:14.279
<v Speaker 1>But there's kind of a reason that it all happened,

429
00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and now I can confront what's really going on in

430
00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:18.839
<v Speaker 1>my marriage or non marriage and maybe try to fix

431
00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it or maybe I need to leave that. If she

432
00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:24.720
<v Speaker 1>had said that at the time, I just feel like

433
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<v Speaker 1>we would have all been on her side and rooting

434
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<v Speaker 1>for her.

435
00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it would be more authentic, it'd be more real.

436
00:22:31.400 --> 00:22:34.319
<v Speaker 1>This is just like a bunch of word salad. Like

437
00:22:35.279 --> 00:22:38.480
<v Speaker 1>he was making me laugh. I needed to laugh. I'm like, well,

438
00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:41.559
<v Speaker 1>but you were also in a tub with a banana

439
00:22:42.039 --> 00:22:45.799
<v Speaker 1>having conversations just joke, and I assume this is a

440
00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:49.160
<v Speaker 1>phallic banana and that you're touching yourself in the tub

441
00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:52.240
<v Speaker 1>because you need some sensual love or whatever, like it's

442
00:22:52.279 --> 00:22:55.400
<v Speaker 1>more than that from the very beginning. What this shows

443
00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:58.960
<v Speaker 1>us is that she was not ever prepared to admit

444
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<v Speaker 1>to her pardon it. And this is why Leon's gonna

445
00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:06.720
<v Speaker 1>get really mad at Mary, because Leon was there and

446
00:23:06.839 --> 00:23:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Leon was telling Mary this is what's going on. I

447
00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:14.240
<v Speaker 1>think Leon even called out that this is probably a catfish.

448
00:23:14.720 --> 00:23:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Mary didn't listen to them, proceeded to do this to herself,

449
00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:21.680
<v Speaker 1>and now here we are. I just wish she was

450
00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:23.920
<v Speaker 1>more direct and more truthful.

451
00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:28.119
<v Speaker 2>In my opinion, I think the only like duplicitous part

452
00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:30.519
<v Speaker 2>of it was her skirting around the fact that she

453
00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:34.079
<v Speaker 2>was like having an online relationship with this person, because

454
00:23:34.079 --> 00:23:36.680
<v Speaker 2>she talks about it like, well, I was just like

455
00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:38.559
<v Speaker 2>talking to people on social media and I was like

456
00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:41.279
<v Speaker 2>making friends and then like I met this one guy

457
00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:44.079
<v Speaker 2>and he was like becoming like my best friend, and

458
00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:46.720
<v Speaker 2>like we were laughing and joking and he was expressing

459
00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:49.079
<v Speaker 2>love for me and kindness and attraction, but like we

460
00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:52.559
<v Speaker 2>were just friends. Though. Like that's where I'm like, h okay,

461
00:23:52.799 --> 00:23:56.880
<v Speaker 2>be honest, here, be real. The part where she's like

462
00:23:57.799 --> 00:24:01.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of victimizing herself. I have more empathy for only

463
00:24:01.680 --> 00:24:07.599
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like in this religious context, like these

464
00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:10.039
<v Speaker 2>women are supposed to perform a lot, and they're supposed

465
00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:12.480
<v Speaker 2>to put on this like facade, and so with Mary,

466
00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:15.160
<v Speaker 2>it's like I gotta pretend like I'm happy and I

467
00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.319
<v Speaker 2>enjoy being here. I gotta pretend like I'm still like

468
00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.000
<v Speaker 2>a part of this family so I can empathize with

469
00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:24.000
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't make it right for her to like be

470
00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:29.079
<v Speaker 2>faking throughout her life and stuff. I just think, Mary,

471
00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:31.599
<v Speaker 2>I think you're right. Like, Mary didn't expect any of

472
00:24:31.640 --> 00:24:35.000
<v Speaker 2>this to come out. I think she was expecting to

473
00:24:35.119 --> 00:24:38.960
<v Speaker 2>run off into the sunset with Sam and like and

474
00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:40.880
<v Speaker 2>like live her best life and just leave the family

475
00:24:40.920 --> 00:24:43.720
<v Speaker 2>for Sam. But then it got blown up in her

476
00:24:43.720 --> 00:24:46.799
<v Speaker 2>face and she got embarrassed. And the whole thing is

477
00:24:46.839 --> 00:24:50.160
<v Speaker 2>like super embarrassing. I mean, imagine like having your online

478
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:53.279
<v Speaker 2>affair be blasted on national TV, like and at the

479
00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:55.680
<v Speaker 2>time it was everywhere, it was in magazines and stuff,

480
00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:59.160
<v Speaker 2>like it was a big dial So I feel for her.

481
00:25:00.240 --> 00:25:05.480
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's just it's the theme of lying, and

482
00:25:05.519 --> 00:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it comes part and parcel with the religion itself.

483
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:12.279
<v Speaker 1>They have to lie because they have to hide, and

484
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:15.119
<v Speaker 1>so there's always secrets so like it. It's just this

485
00:25:15.279 --> 00:25:19.480
<v Speaker 1>culture of being dishonest. And I think that in this moment,

486
00:25:20.079 --> 00:25:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Mary is not being accountable for what she consented to

487
00:25:24.559 --> 00:25:27.480
<v Speaker 1>do with this person who she thought was a man.

488
00:25:27.920 --> 00:25:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Like I think she was all in. I think she

489
00:25:29.759 --> 00:25:33.000
<v Speaker 1>was having an absolute emotional affairs. She wanted to meet him.

490
00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:36.119
<v Speaker 1>She would have probably laid it low and spread it

491
00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:40.519
<v Speaker 1>wide and had a full blown physical affair if Sam

492
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:43.920
<v Speaker 1>was real. So like, just cop to that, own.

493
00:25:43.839 --> 00:25:46.720
<v Speaker 2>That, And that was interesting that she even admitted to that,

494
00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:49.440
<v Speaker 2>like saying like, oh, I definitely wanted to meet him.

495
00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:51.720
<v Speaker 2>I tried to meet up with him a few times,

496
00:25:51.720 --> 00:25:54.079
<v Speaker 2>but he always refused to meet me. And it's like, Okay,

497
00:25:54.279 --> 00:25:57.079
<v Speaker 2>that was your first fucking clue, right, And as we're talking.

498
00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:01.200
<v Speaker 1>About twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, every other Doctor Phil episode

499
00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:03.680
<v Speaker 1>was about a catfish or you're a woman, It's something like,

500
00:26:03.720 --> 00:26:04.519
<v Speaker 1>how did you not know?

501
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Well?

502
00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:08.559
<v Speaker 1>She even says that she had a feeling in the

503
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:12.400
<v Speaker 1>very beginning that he was feeding her a line of bullshit.

504
00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, Mary, if you had a feeling, you're

505
00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.839
<v Speaker 1>a smart cookie, you're running your own business. Why don't

506
00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.119
<v Speaker 1>you do a little bit of investigative journalism and just

507
00:26:22.200 --> 00:26:24.799
<v Speaker 1>check this person out. But like and maybe, and that's

508
00:26:24.799 --> 00:26:27.160
<v Speaker 1>where the nuance comes in, because maybe she wanted to

509
00:26:27.160 --> 00:26:29.799
<v Speaker 1>believe maybe maybe like this was it for her. This

510
00:26:29.920 --> 00:26:32.640
<v Speaker 1>was the only scrap of attention and affection that she

511
00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:35.079
<v Speaker 1>had in her universe, and so she just put the

512
00:26:35.079 --> 00:26:39.640
<v Speaker 1>blinders on and proceeded with Sam slash Jackie. Like it

513
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:41.720
<v Speaker 1>stinks all the way around, though, But Mary, you had

514
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>a hand in that one hundred percent, and that's a betrayal. Like,

515
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:47.839
<v Speaker 1>and here's the thing, Like, if you're in a terrible

516
00:26:47.880 --> 00:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>relationship and you're with an awful partner, like that's not

517
00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:52.839
<v Speaker 1>good and you have every right to leave, but like

518
00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.279
<v Speaker 1>it's not okay though for your reaction to that to

519
00:26:56.400 --> 00:26:58.759
<v Speaker 1>be to cheat, exactly and to go out and find

520
00:26:58.799 --> 00:27:00.079
<v Speaker 1>somebody else that's out of into.

521
00:27:00.559 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And like I think you can. You can empathize

522
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.319
<v Speaker 2>with her to an extent because she obviously was like

523
00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:10.880
<v Speaker 2>desperate and isolated and lonely or whatever. But she isn't

524
00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:15.400
<v Speaker 2>this like blameless person for having this online affair. And again,

525
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:17.480
<v Speaker 2>like I said at the beginning of this episode, like

526
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was really weird how they kind of

527
00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:22.839
<v Speaker 2>spliced these conversations together, because when we're back at Jack's

528
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:26.319
<v Speaker 2>Bratt and she's talking to the family, like she isn't

529
00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:28.640
<v Speaker 2>saying I mean, at least what we see in the

530
00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:31.880
<v Speaker 2>edited footage, she's not saying anything about the catfish. She's

531
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Speaker 2>not talking about not at all. I brought something evil

532
00:27:34.519 --> 00:27:37.519
<v Speaker 2>into the family. I got this catfish demon, and I'm

533
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to protect you guys. Like she's not saying any

534
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.640
<v Speaker 2>of that. What she's saying to the family is I

535
00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:44.839
<v Speaker 2>don't know what I want to do. I don't know

536
00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:49.039
<v Speaker 2>what I need. I might leave the family. Don't be

537
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:51.839
<v Speaker 2>surprised if I'm just up and gone one day. Like

538
00:27:51.880 --> 00:27:55.839
<v Speaker 2>she's saying these like really extreme statements, and again, like

539
00:27:56.039 --> 00:27:59.000
<v Speaker 2>I think there's some validity to it because she's obviously unhappy.

540
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:01.119
<v Speaker 2>Like you had said, she has every right to leave,

541
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:04.440
<v Speaker 2>but like to just drop that bomb, That's where I

542
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:06.480
<v Speaker 2>was like saying, I feel like this is not the

543
00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:10.279
<v Speaker 2>appropriate time to have this conversation on this beautiful vacation

544
00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:13.640
<v Speaker 2>that everybody's excited about, like to be like, yeah, so

545
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I've been struggling and I might just leave and disappear

546
00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:17.079
<v Speaker 2>forever well.

547
00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:19.400
<v Speaker 1>And it's like the way she beats around the bush.

548
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:22.359
<v Speaker 1>Even in that conversation, she can't just come right out

549
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:24.920
<v Speaker 1>and say, I'm thinking about leaving the family. I haven't

550
00:28:24.960 --> 00:28:27.799
<v Speaker 1>been happy for a while. You have all noticed this.

551
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>And then we have Christine in her talking head and

552
00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 1>even Robin saying, yeah, she hasn't been herself these last

553
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:36.240
<v Speaker 1>few months. So something is going on with Mary and

554
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:38.720
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows it. But she can't just sit down at

555
00:28:38.720 --> 00:28:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the table and say, hey, this is what it is,

556
00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:42.519
<v Speaker 1>this is what I think I'm gonna do. I'll let

557
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:44.079
<v Speaker 1>you know as soon as I know. It's just this

558
00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.799
<v Speaker 1>beating around the fucking bush, this lack of communication. These

559
00:28:47.839 --> 00:28:50.240
<v Speaker 1>people don't know how to communicate.

560
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Not at all, and really like the only people and

561
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Mary points us out, like the only people that are

562
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:59.880
<v Speaker 2>being supportive and understanding of her are Christine and Janelle. Robin,

563
00:29:00.920 --> 00:29:03.440
<v Speaker 2>according to Mary, has like not wanted anything to do

564
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 2>with her, doesn't know what to do with her at

565
00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:08.079
<v Speaker 2>this point because of what she's been struggling with. But

566
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Robin to the camera says, yeah, when I first noticed

567
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:15.039
<v Speaker 2>something was up with Mary, I just made sure to

568
00:29:15.079 --> 00:29:17.279
<v Speaker 2>talk to her more and know that and let her

569
00:29:17.319 --> 00:29:20.559
<v Speaker 2>know that we're here for her. We love her, and

570
00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.319
<v Speaker 2>obviously my dream and my hope would be for her

571
00:29:24.359 --> 00:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>and Cody to stay married, because I want the whole

572
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:27.799
<v Speaker 2>family to.

573
00:29:27.839 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Stay that that sweet sweet money.

574
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I need all of that money because I'm about to

575
00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:35.759
<v Speaker 2>have another kid and I need another nanny. So I

576
00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>just really hope that they can work things out. And

577
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:42.359
<v Speaker 2>it's weird because, like Robin did the camera, it does

578
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of seem like she knows that it's about the catfish,

579
00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 2>whereas with Christine and Janelle, like Christine says something like,

580
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I've noticed that Mary's been struggling. You know, she comes

581
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>to the family events as little as possible. You know,

582
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:58.440
<v Speaker 2>she's always on her phone. She's really distant, and I

583
00:29:58.559 --> 00:30:00.400
<v Speaker 2>just wanted to know that we love her, we're here

584
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:02.880
<v Speaker 2>for her. And Janelle' say's the same thing, like no

585
00:30:02.920 --> 00:30:06.359
<v Speaker 2>matter what our differences are, like we are a support system,

586
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>We're here for her. But Robin is really weird about it.

587
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 1>And then she cries, does she because I was looking

588
00:30:14.559 --> 00:30:16.799
<v Speaker 1>for a tear, Honey, she has to break down thinking

589
00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:20.400
<v Speaker 1>about Mary leaving the family and being unhappy, and it's

590
00:30:20.400 --> 00:30:22.119
<v Speaker 1>so performative.

591
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>And like way to make it about you, Yeah, Like

592
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:28.440
<v Speaker 2>how are you so heartbroken about Mary struggling.

593
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Kind of like she started to throw up, yet with

594
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the fish like just snatching that spotlight back to her

595
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:34.799
<v Speaker 1>good point.

596
00:30:35.200 --> 00:30:37.319
<v Speaker 2>And then when they're at the dinner, like Cody's not

597
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:40.160
<v Speaker 2>saying anything. He's literally silent.

598
00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Which is weird because you would think if your wife,

599
00:30:43.440 --> 00:30:46.480
<v Speaker 1>who you love is telling you in the family, I

600
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:50.559
<v Speaker 1>might have to bounce doses. Yeah, you'd be like shell shocked.

601
00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:54.079
<v Speaker 1>You'd be like, what what's going on here? Please tell

602
00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>me more? He says nothing at all, sits there with

603
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:58.119
<v Speaker 1>a weird smile on his face.

604
00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:01.640
<v Speaker 2>It's really bizarre, and he like doesn't even look at

605
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:04.640
<v Speaker 2>her in the eye, and she's like crying and looking away,

606
00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:06.880
<v Speaker 2>and then Cody did the camera's like, I don't.

607
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Know what She's like, she's gonna leave. I don't know.

608
00:31:12.599 --> 00:31:15.839
<v Speaker 1>That's because Cody already knows. Cody has been in the

609
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>loop with this catfish for months through Kendra, Robin's friend.

610
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>They all know, I don't, I mean Robin, Kendra, and Cody.

611
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know about Janelle and Christine.

612
00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like Janelle and Christine I believe that they know.

613
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:32.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like maybe if Cody told Janelle something maybe

614
00:31:32.920 --> 00:31:34.759
<v Speaker 2>she could know, but I know, I feel like Christine

615
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 2>didn't know until it got aired out or whatever. My

616
00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:42.799
<v Speaker 2>thing is, if Robin truly was behind the catfish and

617
00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>her goal was to secure her empire, why would she

618
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:51.960
<v Speaker 2>be behind this and essentially destroy like Mary and her

619
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:54.920
<v Speaker 2>spat in the family and her reputation, Like what would

620
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:56.359
<v Speaker 2>her why?

621
00:31:56.839 --> 00:31:59.599
<v Speaker 1>See, I don't think Robin was behind it. Like, I

622
00:31:59.640 --> 00:32:02.039
<v Speaker 1>don't think she called up Jackie or whatever her name

623
00:32:02.119 --> 00:32:05.559
<v Speaker 1>was and said, hey, let's pull this scam on Mary.

624
00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that she caught wind of what was happening.

625
00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:10.720
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if that's because she was also

626
00:32:10.759 --> 00:32:14.039
<v Speaker 1>on social media noticing what was happening, or if Kendra

627
00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.799
<v Speaker 1>inserted herself into Jackie's life or whatever, but like at

628
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:20.599
<v Speaker 1>some point she became aware of what was happening and

629
00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:23.039
<v Speaker 1>then they started to just talk about it behind the scenes.

630
00:32:24.119 --> 00:32:27.079
<v Speaker 2>Then why would she like egg it on? Why would

631
00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:29.079
<v Speaker 2>she continue to know about it? Well?

632
00:32:29.119 --> 00:32:32.359
<v Speaker 1>What was her comment last season when she was confronted

633
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 1>about this? She said something like, well, if Mary thinks

634
00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 1>that I had anything to do with that, then that's

635
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>her problem, or like she got really defensive about the catfish.

636
00:32:41.440 --> 00:32:43.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so I'm like, Okay, if you did have

637
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:46.200
<v Speaker 2>a hand in it, then like why if you wanted

638
00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:49.400
<v Speaker 2>to keep the family together, I don't understand. That's my

639
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:50.400
<v Speaker 2>whole thing that I don't.

640
00:32:50.279 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Because she doesn't. And she's saying that she's so grateful

641
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:57.880
<v Speaker 1>for Mary's sacrifice by getting a divorce to Cody so

642
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:00.480
<v Speaker 1>that she could marry him and he could adopt her kids.

643
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>Like she keeps saying she loves Mary, she's there for Mary,

644
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.559
<v Speaker 1>but in truth, I don't think she is at all.

645
00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree, Yeah, And it's pretty sad. And Like, ultimately,

646
00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 2>when I was watching this, even though I was frustrated

647
00:33:13.319 --> 00:33:15.480
<v Speaker 2>by Mary just like beating around the bush and just

648
00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:17.839
<v Speaker 2>like not saying what she fully means or saying the

649
00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:20.680
<v Speaker 2>full truth, I did feel really bad for her because

650
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:23.039
<v Speaker 2>she was crying a lot. And this is like, again,

651
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:26.480
<v Speaker 2>really embarrassing to have it be aired out. I do

652
00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:29.839
<v Speaker 2>wish that she could have been more honest about the

653
00:33:29.880 --> 00:33:32.039
<v Speaker 2>fact that she fell in love with this made up

654
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:33.799
<v Speaker 2>dude with a fake photo.

655
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>And she's probably being forced to do this on camera yea,

656
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>because the whole nation is going to talk about it exactly,

657
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:42.559
<v Speaker 1>and so they're gonna have to address it. So can

658
00:33:42.559 --> 00:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>you imagine she knows she's going to the gallows, she's

659
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>going to this dinner, and she's gonna have to say

660
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:50.240
<v Speaker 1>something to these people, and it's going to be terrible,

661
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:52.519
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be embarrassing, and so she kind of just

662
00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:56.119
<v Speaker 1>falls apart and doesn't say much. Yeah, she's obviously emotional.

663
00:33:56.200 --> 00:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I liked seeing Christine being very supportive and so, but

664
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I kind of also understand why Mary didn't turn to Christine,

665
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>for example, to sort of share what was going on

666
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:10.599
<v Speaker 1>with her and in her life or the catfish, because

667
00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:15.199
<v Speaker 1>Christine is so judgmental from that Mormon aub perspective. If

668
00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:18.239
<v Speaker 1>anybody at that table would have been there, I think

669
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:21.280
<v Speaker 1>for Mary it would have been Janelle. I think Janelle

670
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:24.320
<v Speaker 1>would have sat down with her, heard about the catfish,

671
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:26.840
<v Speaker 1>heard about her situation, and honestly helped her.

672
00:34:27.119 --> 00:34:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Janelle the Taurus would have been like the only grounding force.

673
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, I feel like she would have been

674
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:36.119
<v Speaker 2>the only one that would have quietly listened, like without judgment.

675
00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe she would have had a little bit of like

676
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:41.199
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck, but like not enough to like put

677
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.719
<v Speaker 2>Mary off or whatever. I feel like Christine one hundred

678
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:46.239
<v Speaker 2>percent would have judged her. And it's funny because Christine

679
00:34:46.280 --> 00:34:50.039
<v Speaker 2>said something in this episode like Mary wants to run away,

680
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.239
<v Speaker 2>but we're more of a support system than that, Like

681
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:56.000
<v Speaker 2>you owe us to stay here because we'll support you.

682
00:34:56.039 --> 00:34:58.880
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, well, really though, because you guys don't

683
00:34:58.880 --> 00:35:01.639
<v Speaker 2>really like each other. And that's the other layer of

684
00:35:01.679 --> 00:35:04.280
<v Speaker 2>all of this. It's like Christine and Janelle are saying

685
00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>like they're really supportive, but like Mary and Janelle don't

686
00:35:07.400 --> 00:35:10.320
<v Speaker 2>really like each other. Christine doesn't get along with Mary

687
00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 2>because we know from her book that Mary was mean

688
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:16.440
<v Speaker 2>and has always been mean, and like Christine's jealous of

689
00:35:16.519 --> 00:35:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Robin and doesn't like her. Janelle doesn't really like her,

690
00:35:19.239 --> 00:35:21.639
<v Speaker 2>but she tolerates her. Like none of these women actually

691
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 2>like each other, right, so there really isn't a support system.

692
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.320
<v Speaker 1>At all, or isn't actually safe at that table at all?

693
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.039
<v Speaker 2>No, And like in the family, like Mary doesn't really

694
00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:33.719
<v Speaker 2>have anybody at all, and she has no friends, like

695
00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:35.840
<v Speaker 2>she hasn't met Jen at this point. I don't think

696
00:35:35.960 --> 00:35:38.280
<v Speaker 2>I think she has this. Well, then she should have

697
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:39.079
<v Speaker 2>fucking talked Jen.

698
00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>She probably did. Maybe maybe Jen new, Maybe Jen new,

699
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I think she could have shared

700
00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:49.280
<v Speaker 1>with Janelle. I mean Janelle left Cody a couple of times. Yeah,

701
00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 1>moved out of the state, fuck you both fingers right,

702
00:35:53.679 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 1>and left his ass. Like I think she would totally

703
00:35:55.639 --> 00:35:58.239
<v Speaker 1>get it and hopefully support Mary, but like that's just

704
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.039
<v Speaker 1>a relationship. It's like two ships in they just never

705
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:03.719
<v Speaker 1>get that shit together Janelle and Mary.

706
00:36:03.960 --> 00:36:06.800
<v Speaker 2>No, not at all. And like I will say, I

707
00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:09.199
<v Speaker 2>think Mary is a little bit dumb for being catfish

708
00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 2>by somebody online because I'm just like, this is so stupid. Yeah,

709
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.159
<v Speaker 2>and like you're also like a TV personality, Like why

710
00:36:15.199 --> 00:36:18.639
<v Speaker 2>don't you think about totally the fact that people are

711
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:22.320
<v Speaker 2>totally going to be messaging you to try and get

712
00:36:22.360 --> 00:36:23.000
<v Speaker 2>dirt on you.

713
00:36:23.039 --> 00:36:25.159
<v Speaker 1>So his profile picture, and I don't know if y'all

714
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>remember what that was, it was like a black and

715
00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:29.559
<v Speaker 1>white sort of business y sort of picture. He was

716
00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:33.039
<v Speaker 1>a young man with dark hair. He was very classically handsome.

717
00:36:33.119 --> 00:36:35.559
<v Speaker 1>So she saw the profile picture and she was just like,

718
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>let me get a banana.

719
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:39.480
<v Speaker 2>It's so embarrassing.

720
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:43.039
<v Speaker 1>It is embarrassing, And she's so embarrassed in this moment.

721
00:36:42.920 --> 00:36:47.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's cringe dude, like twenty sixteen, Like you're

722
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:49.280
<v Speaker 2>like in your forties. It's not even like you're a

723
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:51.519
<v Speaker 2>boomer who's like learning how to use a computer for

724
00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:54.440
<v Speaker 2>the first time, Like, oh, you're an adult. You know

725
00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 2>how technology.

726
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Weren't on the internet probably for well she's a Mormon,

727
00:36:58.280 --> 00:37:00.159
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but like I was on the internet

728
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:03.440
<v Speaker 1>ninety three, honey, Yeah, I was on the internet for real.

729
00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, Facebook was invented in like two thousand and eight, Like,

730
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:08.519
<v Speaker 2>it's not like it was so new, like you could

731
00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just think it was really silly

732
00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 2>to like fall for this very obviously fake profile. But

733
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:17.280
<v Speaker 2>she was like talking to him on the phone and

734
00:37:17.639 --> 00:37:20.159
<v Speaker 2>again probably having phone sex and just like living her

735
00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:20.800
<v Speaker 2>best life.

736
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.039
<v Speaker 1>So was this chick Jackie like just doing a male

737
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>voice or did she have some sort of like voice

738
00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:29.880
<v Speaker 1>transformer or something like what happened with that? I don't know.

739
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:30.679
<v Speaker 1>How would you not know?

740
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Because I thought was it Leon that said it or

741
00:37:34.119 --> 00:37:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Christine that said it? Like Leon had overheard the conversations

742
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and like knew that it was a woman. Like so

743
00:37:41.480 --> 00:37:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if Sam was even using any voice

744
00:37:44.039 --> 00:37:47.920
<v Speaker 2>altering stuff. I know that stuff exists, and it definitely exists,

745
00:37:47.960 --> 00:37:51.800
<v Speaker 2>back existed back then, But like was Mary just falling

746
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:52.920
<v Speaker 2>for a bush?

747
00:37:53.000 --> 00:37:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's the next thing. Let's continue to ascend

748
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:59.840
<v Speaker 1>because maybe at some point, like if, as she says

749
00:38:00.079 --> 00:38:03.280
<v Speaker 1>this episode, she had a feeling, like one week into

750
00:38:03.280 --> 00:38:06.320
<v Speaker 1>their conversation Mary and Sam, she had a feeling that

751
00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:10.440
<v Speaker 1>he was horseshitting her. Maybe at some point she realized, Oh,

752
00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm talking to a chick and I like it.

753
00:38:14.079 --> 00:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe and I'm not mad at it. So I'm gonna

754
00:38:17.079 --> 00:38:19.320
<v Speaker 1>continue to have this conversation. I don't know, because she

755
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.800
<v Speaker 1>does seem very betrayed by Jackie, and.

756
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:25.079
<v Speaker 2>I know she like calls him a bastard, like she's

757
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:28.440
<v Speaker 2>super pissed off that he would have the audacity to

758
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.679
<v Speaker 2>fake a profile. But I'm like, you still, like you'd said,

759
00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:34.920
<v Speaker 2>you still chose to talk to him and have phone

760
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:38.159
<v Speaker 2>sex and send pictures with your banana in your mouth.

761
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:42.079
<v Speaker 1>It's like, though you were dubious, but this person was.

762
00:38:43.800 --> 00:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>And remember didn't Mary go to Disneyland? And Sam sent

763
00:38:48.599 --> 00:38:52.719
<v Speaker 1>his best friend Jackie to meet Mary because I can't go.

764
00:38:52.840 --> 00:38:55.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm very busy. I'm a businessman, so but I'm gonna

765
00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:58.559
<v Speaker 1>send my friend who's really good with technology. You don't

766
00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:00.880
<v Speaker 1>want to mess with her. I'm gonna send her to Disneyland.

767
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>And Mary actually met Jackie at this time. Yeah, I

768
00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:09.599
<v Speaker 1>think before this time, she's already been to Disneyland. She

769
00:39:09.760 --> 00:39:12.840
<v Speaker 1>thought she was meeting Sam's best friend, but she was

770
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:15.320
<v Speaker 1>meeting her actual catfish. So she did meet her.

771
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:17.559
<v Speaker 2>And that's what's crazy to me, So like you were

772
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:22.440
<v Speaker 2>actively going to meet this person outside of your family,

773
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:26.199
<v Speaker 2>outside of your marriage. I will say she did mention

774
00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:29.480
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of that, being like, you know, I

775
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:31.840
<v Speaker 2>can't believe I did this type of a thing. I'm

776
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:35.320
<v Speaker 2>a married woman and like I have a family, but

777
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:37.800
<v Speaker 2>it was lonely and I was talking to me for I.

778
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 1>Don't think she was ever as overt as that.

779
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 2>She did say something like I was married, and why

780
00:39:42.760 --> 00:39:44.840
<v Speaker 2>am I doing this outside of my marriage? But I was.

781
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:47.360
<v Speaker 2>It was my friend, my friend who.

782
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Said made me laugh. I was laughing again in my

783
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:52.079
<v Speaker 1>lonely house, and.

784
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 2>He said he was attracted to me and my poor nanny.

785
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh god. So it's sad, it's also enraging. It's also

786
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:02.599
<v Speaker 1>like Crinn, but it's what happened to Mary Brown. And

787
00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>here we are going into the next season.

788
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so that's the question, are we going to

789
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:11.039
<v Speaker 2>watch the tell all for this because I do remember

790
00:40:11.639 --> 00:40:14.000
<v Speaker 2>in this season they do address the catfish and the

791
00:40:14.519 --> 00:40:16.800
<v Speaker 2>tell all and it is with Tambern Hall.

792
00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 1>Can we not do it as like a recap of

793
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>an episode, but like maybe we can just watch it before. Yeah,

794
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:26.079
<v Speaker 1>we'll spark notes and then we'll watch the first episode

795
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:28.079
<v Speaker 1>of season ten and we can talk about anything that

796
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 1>was germane from this tell all.

797
00:40:29.599 --> 00:40:31.719
<v Speaker 2>It sounds good to me, okay.

798
00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Babes Well, is that the last thing that happened.

799
00:40:33.559 --> 00:40:35.199
<v Speaker 2>That was pretty much it? It was like the whole

800
00:40:35.199 --> 00:40:40.400
<v Speaker 2>conversation of just the catfish and Cody's confused okay about

801
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:43.960
<v Speaker 2>what she means? And the season ends.

802
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, what are your thoughts out there? Guys? Were you

803
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:52.440
<v Speaker 1>around when this dropped in twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, whenever

804
00:40:52.519 --> 00:40:55.280
<v Speaker 1>it aired? What were your thoughts then? What are your

805
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:58.280
<v Speaker 1>thoughts now? Knowing what you know, Like, what do you

806
00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>think about Mary now and how she dealt with it

807
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:05.599
<v Speaker 1>throughout the entire rest of their marriage? I'm interested? Yeah,

808
00:41:05.679 --> 00:41:07.159
<v Speaker 1>is there anything else that we need to say to

809
00:41:07.159 --> 00:41:09.239
<v Speaker 1>these beautiful raccoons before we get up on out of here?

810
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:12.039
<v Speaker 2>Beadrels Well, if you love our podcast, please do us

811
00:41:12.079 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a favor, go to your favorite podcast platform and Lebo's

812
00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>a glowing five star review. Really helps us grow the

813
00:41:17.360 --> 00:41:19.599
<v Speaker 2>pod and we really appreciate it, so thank you very much.

814
00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:23.119
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be back next week to get into season

815
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:26.599
<v Speaker 1>ten this Bitch finally, yes, and talk a little bit

816
00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.239
<v Speaker 1>more about the catfish. And also, didn't I send you

817
00:41:29.280 --> 00:41:32.400
<v Speaker 1>something on Instagram on a new show that might be interesting?

818
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:35.239
<v Speaker 2>What was it Married at First Site? Right, there's a revamp.

819
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:39.559
<v Speaker 1>Married at First Site has been taken over by Peacock

820
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>and they've refreshed it. It's not two hours each episode,

821
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:45.559
<v Speaker 1>I think. Let me know if I'm wrong about that.

822
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:48.559
<v Speaker 1>But it's also modernized, so I don't know if it's

823
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>like a little bit more like Love Island or like

824
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:52.559
<v Speaker 1>a little bit more like something like that. I don't know. Guys,

825
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:54.679
<v Speaker 1>if you're watching, tell us what you think about it.

826
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 1>But we're thinking about maybe covering it.

827
00:41:56.360 --> 00:41:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, it sounds interesting if it's better than the original,

828
00:41:59.519 --> 00:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm down.

829
00:42:00.400 --> 00:42:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, did you also see that thing I sent to

830
00:42:02.280 --> 00:42:06.760
<v Speaker 1>you on Instagram about those wives who are doing only

831
00:42:06.880 --> 00:42:09.440
<v Speaker 1>fans and the men who manage them. Yeah?

832
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:10.519
<v Speaker 2>What was it called?

833
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Like something about I don't know, ladies out just in

834
00:42:14.400 --> 00:42:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Suburbia being oas God on the internet, which is my favorite.

835
00:42:21.039 --> 00:42:22.199
<v Speaker 1>I love a huah, I.

836
00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Did find it. What is it called tillim like the

837
00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Mom next Door? Double Lives of Suburban Wives.

838
00:42:29.639 --> 00:42:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Gosh, you just never know, do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I would be into that if it's

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of soccer moms being.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like so gunshy with TLC after poly Family and

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<v Speaker 1>like suddenly Homage, Like those were so overly produced, they

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<v Speaker 1>were such a drag. I didn't want to watch them anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>But these ones look legit though.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of are you guys gonna watch? Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any suggestions for something that we can watch until the

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<v Speaker 1>new season of Sister Wives comes on?

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<v Speaker 2>Perfectly, something that's not like a slog to watch, like

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking ninety day.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have that kind of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Two hour episodes and like for four weeks we're in

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<v Speaker 2>the same scene. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's got to be something out there though that

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<v Speaker 1>we can watch and have some fun with double lives

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<v Speaker 1>of supermin lives. Okay, I don't married at first sight. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know what you guys think. We'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>next week, Like I said, until then, please do not

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<v Speaker 1>forget that we have nothing but love for you, and

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<v Speaker 2>Please all night