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And again, thank you so much for your support. Pete

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Calendar here, but you probably already knew that. If you didn't,

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I'm Pete and this is Andrew Dunn. Andrew Dunn is

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the publisher of long Leaf Politics. You can read his

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work at longleafpol dot com. He's also a contributing columnist

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at The Charlotte Observer. Andrew, how are you you survive

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the great but temporary cloud flare outage of twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 3: I see, well barely. I wasn't able to see your

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tweets as quickly as I'd.

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Speaker 2: Like here, Yeah, I know, there was a sense of panic,

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and then I realized, wow, I really do rely on

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this app for a lot and that's probably not so good.

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Speaker 1: But yes, a cloud flare just like was it.

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Speaker 2: Amazon Web Services went down a couple months ago. Cloud

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Flair went down this morning and broke a bunch of websites.

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Speaker 1: But it's back. We are all. We have survived so.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So last week we chatted about the results of the

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of the local election here in Charlotte. You did another

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write up on this, and I was particularly interested to

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read this. I was invited to speak last week to

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the Queen City Republicans and you know, they're asking and

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I understand why, but they were, you know, people when

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we were doing the Q and A, and they were

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asking me, you know, what do we do?

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Speaker 1: Where do we go from here? And like I don't.

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Speaker 2: I did not have any real good answers for them

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because I don't see a path forward for them. And

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you wrote about this sort of saying the same sort

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of dynamic, and you say at the very end, you

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could view this as surrender, but I don't see it

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that way. It's simply practical politics. Okay, So what is

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not surrender? What is the way forward? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's easy to overreact to a single election,

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but I do actually feel like we're at a tipping

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point here in Charlotte and Mecklenburg County. I don't see

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the road getting any easier for Republicans to actually win

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any of these local offices. But it doesn't mean that

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Republicans have no role to play or that their votes

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don't matter here. It's just that the focus has to shift.

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The focus has to shift to statewide races. I don't

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see it worth our time and money to run for

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city council and the foreseeable future. But if you look

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at the numbers, Mecklenburg County actually has the second most

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Republicans in terms of sheer volume of voters out of

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any county in the state, second behind only Wait County.

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And in some of our state wide races when come

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down to extremely narrow margins, that means that Republicans here

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in Charlotte have to turn out, have to donate money

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to our statewide candidates. And I think you know, Mecklinberg

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County is going to continue to punch above its way.

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I mean, it's one of the most important counties for

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any Republican candidate if they want to win statewide.

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Speaker 2: I said the same thing to the Queen City Republicans

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as well, that they have to still have a turnout

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operation particularly in the even year elections.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: But also it's like, you know, I'm not going to

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sugarcoat it. And I was like, you guys don't really

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have the same turnout infrastructure that the Democrats enjoy. And

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they built that over a long time. And you know,

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Charlotte Republicans are based in the spot they are in

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now because of decisions I feel like we're made twenty

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five thirty years ago, which prompted a lot of Conservatives

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to not want to be in Charlotte any longer. After

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their Republican elected leaders did things that they disagreed with

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and taxes got too high. You know, they built all

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of these projects and stuff. And I'm not going to

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litigate every single one of those projects, but people because

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in Charlotte at WBT and we would talk and I

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kept hearing the same sort of refrain from people, and

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they were like, we're moving out, you know, we don't,

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we don't want to participate in this kind of city

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and with these priorities. And so now this is the

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result right where you've got a lot of GOP voters

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that moved to the surrounding counties.

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Speaker 1: They got read.

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Speaker 2: They flipped from Democrat to Republican in every county around

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Speaker 3: No, I think that's good advice. And I see that

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trend continuing at least over the next ten years or so.

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figure post Trump, and you know who knows. I mean,

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there's still a chance for the suburbs to go back

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red like they were for so many years before, but

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you're right in that, you know, the mech GOP has

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to absolutely invest in the turnout game. You know, I

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was actually pretty shocked looking at some of the statewide

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results for twenty twenty four. I mean, even Steve Troxler

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is only getting thirty five percent of the vote in

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Mecklenburg County, the most the most popular Republican in the state,

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and I feel like a lot of that has to

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come down to just a poor turnout operation. I know

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that there's more than three percent who would be willing

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to vote for a Republican in Mecklenburg County. We just

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have to do a better job of turning him out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I also told him I and I quoted you

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from our discussion previously. I said, you got to get

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to early voting. You guys got to drop the early

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voting opposition and the absentee ballots and stuff. It's you're

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killing yourself by not banking all of those votes.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: My one criticism is that you use the word vote getters,

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not voteinger.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know vote Did you catching on? I saw?

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Speaker 1: What was it?

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Speaker 3: Chris Cooper? I think was he.

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Speaker 1: Was one of my first converts.

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Speaker 3: Chris Cooper, that's big.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's why I was kind of disappointed. Well,

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did you at least like consider throwing the word in

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there while you were writing it up?

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Speaker 3: It was a really tough to city.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that's all right. It'll catch on though,

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it will.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's like that, it's the preference cascade

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slowly at first and then very quickly. You know, that's

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what where we're still on the slope.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, Chris Cooper, I mean, he's a true

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influencer in North Carolina political circles.

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Speaker 2: Right, so that I mean, he was my biggest get.

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I think it helped that I went to college with

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him and we were fraternity brothers, so I think that

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may have given me the inside track there. Plus, it's

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a nice word. It's a good word, all right. So

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let's talk about Charlotte's web. And you've got a piece

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that's at the Charlotte Observer. This was on the thirteenth,

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so about so last week, and the headline is North

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Carolina shouldn't have to choose between open borders and unmarked vans.

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And you say, somehow, let's deport criminals has has somehow

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now become the moderate position. And you say, the result

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is that the sane middle, enforced the law in a steady,

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transparent way, has been neglected so long it almost feels

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radical when someone rediscovers it, which is yeah, like, and.

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Speaker 1: I understand what Democrats are trying to do.

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Speaker 2: They got to walk this line of like, we're fighting,

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but let's not have violence. We stand with you our base,

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and that's calling for you know, customs and Border patrol

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to leave right meanwhile calling them all racist, but also

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don't get violent against the racist fascists that are, you know,

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sweeping up people off of the streets. So I understand

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that the game, they're the line they have to walk

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the game that they are playing. But I also yeah,

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but I also think that we are seeing this. I

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do agree with Destin Hall, the Speaker of the House,

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and you quote them in your piece. But we are

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where we are because there has been this complete abdication

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of enforcing immigration law from you know, the sheriff, not

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my fault macfadden, you know, not not honoring the detainer request,

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and just this general acceptance which I think is at

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the heart of what I'm hearing from the Democrats, which

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is they want amnesty. That's I think that's what's motivating this.

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They don't want to say it, but I think that's

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what they believe, is that everybody that is here illegally

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but hasn't committed any other crime besides being here illegally,

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then they should be allowed to stay and they should

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be given citizenship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're exactly right. I actually I just

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finished up another column on this issue that's going to

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be publishing any time now on the Charlotte Observer. Site.

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You know, I think that Operation Charlotte's Web was probably

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messier than it needed to be. And I definitely still

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don't love the masks and the unmarked vans and all that,

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but I will say that the operation did get some

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folks off the streets who were accused of really serious crimes.

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I'm sure you've been following the Board of Patrol head

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on X who's been, you know, sending out some of

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those mugshots. And it's very important to note that a

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lot of these folks have been arrested numerous times here

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in Meckenburg County and then just released back out into

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the public by the Sheriff's office. You know, if we

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had a shaff who had worked with I and did

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what Josh Stein said that we all want to do,

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Speaker 2: Right, this is the result of the again, just like

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with the Republicans losing elections, now, this is the result

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of year's worth of decisions that were made leading up

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to this moment. And yeah, I don't My understanding is

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that these operations, they work off of lists of targeted individuals,

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but if they come across somebody else who's here illegally

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and can't provide any kind of documentation or whatever, then

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they get picked up too.

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't seem like any elected official understands that.

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Speaker 1: How is it that I know this but they don't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure, And that would be my understanding

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as well. And I tend to give law enforcement the

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benefit of the doubt in most cases. I think one

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of the issues we're running in here is that, you know,

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the Trump administration seems to enjoy the spectacle of it. Yeah,

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and I think they kind of go out of their

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way to play it up. You know, there's some very

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dramatic videos that get published on social media and whatnot,

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and I think that turns people off in areas like Charlotte.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I would agree with that.

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Speaker 2: I also would note that the groups that are protesting

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and are you know, created and they're swarming the CBP

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operators and stuff. Indivisible Charlotte has been named as one

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of those groups, and they were behind the no Kings

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protest marches. Like that's not a coincidence. And I think

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that you've got Democrat officials that are that are worried

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about that particular element of their voting base, and so

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they're going to their incentive is to do what the

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indivisible crowd wants, much like we just saw last night

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where the city council is now going to throw a

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bunch of taxpayer money at these you know, services or

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nonprofits or whatever that are going to help people who

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are impacted by these raids.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's our tax money.

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Speaker 2: Now that's gonna go to pay for illegal immigrants services

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or something like.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I see like, I just I look for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean as far as incentives go. I mean,

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it certainly seemed to me that some folks in the

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media actively wanted a riot or something terrible to happen

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in Charlotte, and thankfully that doesn't seem to have happened,

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though there were some nasty things that happened. I mean,

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somebody tried to run over a border patrol agent with

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their car.

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Speaker 1: I saw two.

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Speaker 2: There have been two. They just got another one somebody

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a man. And they claim they were with some group,

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but they wouldn't identify what group they were with. And yeah,

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they they tried to rammed an ice vehicle at a

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parking lot.

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Speaker 1: So like that's what's yeah, So all right.

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Speaker 2: Well we'll leave it there, having not solved any of

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the world's problems. Andrew Dunn. Next week, Yeah, maybe next week.

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There's always next week. Andrew Dunn, thanks for your time, sir.

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I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, all right, take care.

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Speaker 2: That's Andrew Dunn. He is a contributing columnist at The

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Charlotte Observer. Also go check out his website, his newsletter

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Speaker 2: So, one of the things there that Andrew Dunn mentioned

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in our chat but also in his peace set The

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Charlotte Observer was the comments made by Governor Josh Stein

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and here's what Andrew wrote, and I actually have Josh

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Stein's video statement that he put out in the middle

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of the debate. He says, since the modest idea that

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people here illegally who commit violent crimes should be deported,

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and that the officers doing it ought to look and

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act like American law enforcement, not a secret police. That's

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essentially the middle ground Governor Josh Stein tried to stake

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out in his comments this week. Asked about reports of

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potential border patrol operations in Charlotte, he said, of agents

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come here to find violent, dangerous drug traffickers and criminals,

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then the city would quote welcome them with open arms.

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Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, They have not. The city has not done that.

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Speaker 2: If they show up masked and on an unidentified wreaking

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havoc and causing chaos and fear, North Carolina will be

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very concerned, very concerned. So the mask thing drives a

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lot of the people on the left nuts over this,

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and no matter how many times you explain it, they

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don't care. They were perfectly fine with the rioters wearing

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masks while burning and looting cities, but when law enforcement

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agents are getting their names put out onto the internet,

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and hit lists circulated among cartel members with their addresses

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and families, names and such. For some reason, this is

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would would want to protect some anonymity. Now that being said,

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I have seen, you know, all the videos I've seen,

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they're all they've all got Border Patrol marking. Some of

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them have their names on their chests and stuff. So

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but that's what they're hanging their hat on this.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. They're anonymous. We don't even know.

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Speaker 2: If they're Border Patrol, but they identify themselves as Border Patrol.

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Speaker 1: But anybody could do that.

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Speaker 2: See all right, if you're listening to this show, oh

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more transparent. All right, So Governor Josh Stein posted a

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video onto the social media.

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Speaker 1: He did this Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: So this was two days into the Customs and Border

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Patrol operation Immigration Enforcement Operation Charlotte's Web as they dubbed it,

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and so he posted this video.

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Speaker 1: It's very short. He criticizes Border patrols actions in Charlotte.

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Obviously it's Josh Stein.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I wanted to provide an update as Customs and

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Border Patrol agents have been in Charlotte over the weekend.

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My team and I have been in regular contact with

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state and local law enforcement to ensure that they have

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the resources that they need to keep you safe. Public

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safety is our top priority, and our well trained local

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officers know their communities and are here for the long haul.

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On Friday, before Customs and Border Protection came to Charlotte,

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I encourage North Kilinnianes to follow the law, remain peaceful,

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and bear witness to what you're seeing. Thank you Charlotte

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for answering that call to the CBP. If you know

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that we have violent criminals in Charlotte who are undocumented,

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we want them out too. Everyone wants to be safe

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in their communities.

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Speaker 1: See. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: CBP may not believe you because of the position that

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your party has taken on immigration enforcement. Right, we don't

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believe you. I don't believe you. I would CBP believe you.

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I do not believe that Democrats actually want to get

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these criminal illegal aliens out of the state, out of America.

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I don't and I say that because of who I

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have seen Democrats hold up as the poster children for

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the enforcement actions and due process and rule of law.

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Are arguments like the Maryland man. Right, the guy with

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the gang tattoos had a restraining order taken against him

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by his wife and it was human trafficking from Texas.

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That guy. Yeah, they held him up and they were like, yo,

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bring him back, bring him back. Yeah, Like this is

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the issue is never the issue. The issue is always

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the revolution. That's why you've got people that are at

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these protests in Charlotte wearing cafeas. Cafia's got nothing to

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do with this enforcement action. The Palestinian issue has nothing

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to do with this. But it's meant to virtue signal.

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This is performative, it's theater. It's why you had all

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of those assuming. Yeah, like I got to believe that

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the Dilworth Methodist Church over there that held the training

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session for you know, how to disrupt federal law enforcement operations.

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I gotta believe that that Methodist church, because they're still

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United Methodist. I gotta believe that they did not vote

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to disaffiliate when the institutional church took the hard left

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turn last year, right, or maybe that was this year. Yeah,

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it's not a surprise. It's like everything else. And it

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goes to the same topic with Andrew Dunn. We were

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talking about, you know, Republicans leaving unable to win races

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in Charlotte. Now a solidly blue town. Unguarded stores of

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value will be beset upon by parasites, whether it's a

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warehouse full of you know food, Right, if you don't

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protect it, it'll get looted, It'll get eaten by bugs

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and critters, It'll get eaten or stolen by criminals.

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Speaker 1: Right if you do not protect the store of value.

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Speaker 2: And you know, cities have value and institutions, but that

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his church had value, still does right. They got land

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and assets and all sorts of stuff that they want

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to protect, but didn't. It didn't guard them. They didn't

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guard the store of value well enough, and now it's

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getting you know, it got infiltrated and is being rotted

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from the inside. Sorry, I but I mean that's my

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assessment of the situation. And that's why I don't believe

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Democrats when they say that, oh yeah, we would totally

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work with you. No, you wouldn't you had opportunities to

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do so. Where was the pressure campaign on Gary McFadden

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from Democrats? What elected Democrats leaned on sheriff. Not my

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fault McFadden, who leaned on him to say, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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You need to stay with the two eighty seven G program.

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You need to keep doing this, because that's a great

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way to identify these criminal illegal aliens when they get

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into the jail, and then you work with ice to

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get them out.

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Speaker 1: See, that's how you address the problem.

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Speaker 2: But when you run on a platform of scrapping it

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and then scrap it and every Democrat in Mecklenberg County

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is silent, well then I know what you are actually

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all about. And again, just to tie this back to

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the puffing up of the numbers, right, because that's also

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part of this deal, which is to make sure that

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when the census is done, the census counts total population

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that includes US citizens and non citizens, it includes illegal aliens.

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of Representatives, and those congressional districts are used in the

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elector one electoral college vote. Everybody gets two for their

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you end up deporting or people self deport in large

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and maybe even the presidency. This is existential for Democrats.

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let me finish off the governor's social media post his

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video address again. This was from Sunday evening. There's only

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about a minute a half of it left here.

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Speaker 4: But the actions of too many federal agents are doing

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the exact opposite. In Charlotte. We've seen masked heavily armed

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agents and paramilitary garb driving unmarked cars, targeting American citizens

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based on their skin color, racially profiling and picking up

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random people and parking lots and off of our sidewalks.

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Speaker 2: All right, So I would love to hear a reporter

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ask what is the evidence for these claims?

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Speaker 1: What is the evidence?

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Speaker 2: I keep hearing democrats in all their statements that they're

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racially profiling and they're racists and all this. What is

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the evidence for these claims? You guys were complaining two

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days ago that you didn't have any idea how the

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operations were being run. So how would you know this?

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Speaker 1: How do you know? Let me let me tell you

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a story real quick. This was a story that was

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told to me by.

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Speaker 2: By the guy who gave the class instruction for concealed carry,

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and he told the story of a guy who had

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he sees two men fighting each other come tumbling out

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the front or rolling around on the ground, and at

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one point then one of the men pulls out a

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gun and points it at the other guy. Well, the

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guy sitting in the truck who sees this fight tumble

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out of the building, he's a concealed carry holder too,

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so he gets his gun. He gets out and he

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shoots the guy who had pulled the gun.

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Speaker 1: In the fight.

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Speaker 2: And killed him. And that guy that was killed was

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a cop. He was trying to arrest somebody. He was

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in plain clothes. He was trying to arrest somebody. And

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the lesson of that story is, you don't know what

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occurred before you're seeing what you're seeing, right, All you

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are is the person in the truck who sees these

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two guys fighting. You have no idea what that fight

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was about. You have no idea who these people are.

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That's what social media has been promoting. Yesterday, I gave

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you the news report about the fifteen year old boy

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who was arrested at the Super GM mart. He was

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just pushing in shopping carts. Right, DHS says, actually, he's

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not fifteen years old. Actually he was one of the

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targets on their list. He's either eighteen or even in

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his twenties. Which then the owner of the Super G

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Mart he had to come out and correct himself because

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he was the one that told the media that the

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kid was only fifteen or sixteen, and that was not true.

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But that's the lie that spreads around the world, right,

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that's the narrative that gets told immediately, Oh my gosh,

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they're picking up children and zip tying him. No, they

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actually were walking him to the car and when he

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tried to run, that's when they had to zip tie it.

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So what is your evidence for the claims? What I

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would like to know from the governor.

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Speaker 4: Going after landscaper simply decorating a Christmas tree in someone's

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front yard and entering churches and stores to grab people.

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Speaker 2: See again, he makes it sound like they're just running

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around looking for brown people and snatching them. Off the streets.

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What is your evidence for this claim? Because you're the

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guy in the truck watching the fight come out of

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the front door.

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Speaker 4: This is not making us safer, It's stoking fear and

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dividing our community. I want to say a word about immigration.

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We are a nation of immigrants and our state in

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this country is stronger because of our immigrant communities. Unfortunately,

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our immigration system is broken, but rather than fix it,

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the federal government continues to play politics with it.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: You are seeing this operation and others like it all

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over the country because of the quote broken immigration system.

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And the only reason it's broken is because you guys

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don't want to enforce the laws on the books.

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Speaker 1: That's it. This is a this is These are the

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ramifications of your positions, of your inaction, your nullification, your

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attempts at nullification of federal law.

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Speaker 4: It is long past time for Congress to act. We

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need strong borders we have. We must hold accountable and

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deport anyone who has committed a serious crime, and we

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must create a path to legal status for those who've

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been here a long time, ah paid their taxes and

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followed the law, especially our dreamers who came to this

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country as very young children.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: Gives away the game, right, yes, Enforcement, sure, but also

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amnesty and Republicans. Republican and conservative voters. They are not

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taking another swing at that football being held by Lucy.

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Not going to do it Enforcement first, then maybe we'll

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talk about amnesty.

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Speaker 1: All right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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so much for listening.

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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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while I'm gone.