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Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons, throwing some ice,

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mixing some vodkas. Colored a podcast from the Mac of

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Dots jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome, Thanks for getting your poduct thanks for

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telling a friend and that's how he spread the word

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about the pirates. Oh got him. I frustrated, Get a hug. No,

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I don't know what I need.

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Speaker 3: Do your chasmosaze, I don't know. I evaporated milk.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what I need. And it makes me

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think more admirable Dennis, I do that maybe, Moredo. Oh god,

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I do love that stuff and I people get mad

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at me. Not mad at me, that's not fair. But

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people have said sent me messages and things like your

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your when when I always first talking about it like

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it's the greatest thing ever, Like you can't do that.

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It's bad, not not don't take it, but don't talk

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about it so much. It is altering the the the

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chemistry of your brain. It is a tool. Clearly, I'm

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add I'm able to accomplish more than I've ever been

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able to accomplish and actually kind of keep things on

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the path. I apologize to you guys, because first of all,

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what I wanted to say and open up here was

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thank you to Dan and Kevin for your patients and

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your kindness and being part of this.

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Speaker 3: You like the cal Ripkin of apology shows. Christ You's like,

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apologize to me before every show we've done for two

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years now.

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Speaker 2: Only because I know that you're taking time out. You're

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here and I had It's just a frustrating thing. It's

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it's no big deal, but I I'm gonna mention it

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and will probably come to blow back on me because

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I'm I'm frustrated. I'm just frustrated. I have a tutor

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for my son, and I said to him, I'm leaving

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and don't forget. I know, I know dad Tonto's coming.

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And I said, do you want to work on the

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presentation that you're going to do tomorrow or what do

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you No? No, And he names the subject that he

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wants to do. He goes, no, I'm good there, I'd

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really want to do this. I'm like, okay, So I

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leave and I'm here and then I'm trying to We're

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fussing around with the lights and trying to look at stuff,

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and I see a text come across as I'm on

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the monitor, and I go, oh boy. And then I'm

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saying I'm snapping at Kevin. Well, I mean I snacked.

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You said you do the police.

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Speaker 3: I was, well, I didn't get. I didn't get.

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Speaker 2: I felt like I was kind of like, frust give

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me my phone, and I should have said, please give

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me whatever. So well I did. I feel bad. I

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told you to get as your own goddamn self. I

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just so because I was at the other end of

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the table. And so now I'm calling and the tutor's like, hey,

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there's no answer. I'm like, great, well, I can't get

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location services. So now I get to call him a

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third party to look at the location service because I,

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for whatever reason, my phone I must have done something.

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I should have you look at it, actually, because you

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know that stuff, don't you A little bit? I guess

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just to see and I will and uh, I just

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to see where he's at, and I get no, he's

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he's in the house. So I go back there. I

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open the door and then I do like the he

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refers to it as the icenck. He's like, all right,

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which is now, this is just my frustration, so fuck

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that you're supposed to be on. So I said, I go, bud.

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He's like, well, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right right. I said,

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I told you he was coming, and you know, and

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it's it's money, and all of a sudden, I just

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I'm like and then he's like, I'm not ready, and

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so I start gettingssed and I'm like saying things and

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he's shutting down, and I'm like, well, this is gonna

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go nowhere. And I said, all right, what would you

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like me do? Can you ask him to leave? I

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said fine, and I did, And then the guy's coming

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back tomorrow anyway, So I gotta pay for that. I

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told the kid I would. I told the kid I would.

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of it. But it just frustrates the shit out of me.

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Speaker 4: And you pay this, you pay this money out, and

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then it's Friday. Can we go to the mall? I

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need some I need some new stuff. It's always and

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I'd be like, yeah, when you shut up for your tutoring,

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we'll get there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking about something here because I go, like,

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you're running around, Kevin's running around with hockey. Uh, Dan

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had no no kids, run around with the best gear

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or roady, right, But I go. But then I was thinking,

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like the three of us, Dan lives in theory, right,

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I mean, you read a lot of stuff. I don't

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even no, he lives he lives the theory proper, theory proper.

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And then Kevin kind of lives in reality. And I'm

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somewhere in between, trying not to get yell.

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Speaker 3: I'm the guy, I'm the guy with no kids. But

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yet here's how theory I live in.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: My siblings they haven't done this in a while, but

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they used to complain about each other's kids and how

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they behave. And then I would give my God and

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then I would give my prescription and they say, well,

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what do you know you don't have kids? Yeah, I

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live in theory. I laugh about because I get it.

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Speaker 2: Well when I say you live in theory, when I'm

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talking about well, yeah, share me here there it is,

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but the button's coming. Huh, the shut up button is coming.

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Oh no. What what it is to me is like

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you optimized sleep macros supplements you've got all this down.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't have any kids.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what the data says.

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Speaker 3: I had a guy at church doing you really disciplined.

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I go, I don't have kids, man, I go, I'm

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not trying to make that excuse. He goes, oh, dude,

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I use my kids as an excuse all the time.

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He goes, we're at church here. I don't have to

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lie to yet. I'm not gonna, but I go with you.

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Speaker 2: Are you you? You research stuff and then question your doctor,

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and your doctor's kind of go, all right, Dan, you.

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Speaker 3: Can tell by looking at you you did not have peakos.

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Speaker 2: I don't even oh pikos.

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Speaker 3: By the way, I had to clean bill of health

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the other day.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 3: Went to the doctor. My e kg perfect.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know her mind it. My shit's all

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over the place right now. Honestly it is. It's like

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some things are in the uh abnormal and some things

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are not. Nothing bad, nothing bad at all.

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Speaker 3: Doctor goes, do you have a history of heart disease

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in your family?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: Why what's up? I'm just asking? And then he goes, hey,

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he goes, he goes, he goes, do you I go,

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he goes no, cause you're your ekg is great. I'm

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just asking if you have a history.

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Speaker 4: I go, no, he asked me, did your research after that? Doctor?

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Speaker 3: Then he asked me, he goes, hey, uh you see

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a dermatologist? I go, why should I? No? You're fine,

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You're fine. I'm just asking if you've seen one. I go,

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You're good. It's almost like they're playing with you. They're

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trying to poke you.

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Speaker 4: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: Did you have unprotected sex in the eighties? You might

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have nobod I have a magicson Jersey ill blood on it.

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But the thing with like then, I I'm thinking about

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Danny's got, like the supplements and the regimen and all

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the stuff he's going to do when he goes out

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and he does, I would somewhere we have to find

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his street, not his doorbell ring cam, any neighbors doorbell

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ring cam, because that has I you know that, I

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would to have great joy and watch.

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Speaker 3: Oh, of course, yes, but he would literally call Tommy

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up and goes, bro bro, I don't even talk to well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but brow is that Danny like Kevin is like

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you know, it probably listens to you goes. Yeah, try

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that with three kids in six am hockey practice. It's

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like impossible. That's why I say reality for gud.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard, I've heard.

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Speaker 4: The run of the parking lot. I just don't.

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Speaker 3: I've heard that. Like the hardest part of parenting is

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when your kids joined sports. It just it takes on

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a life of its own. The expense, the travel.

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Speaker 2: It depends everybody.

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Speaker 3: Everybody who runs these sports tall their their parents. Your

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kid could be a Major League or an NFL NB necessarily.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, you've been in no right,

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I would take a little bit. I would. There's some

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that probably talked D one scholarship stuff, I mean potentially

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or taut who's come out of our program that's gone

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D one. So then may think that I don't know,

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I know somebody who just two kids playing travel soccer.

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Almost eight hundred dollars for.

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Speaker 3: Uniforms for uniforms for uniforms, which is literally shirt shorts,

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socks and numbers on them.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how that compares. And I think that's

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just the uniform, right, and not the kid, yes, and

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not but not the not the shoot, not the cleats, No,

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the cleat. That's so it's like with you, I don't

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know what you're paying. And this would be travel. I

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don't know the last time it wasn't built in. I

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think it was like two hundred for the jersey in

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the socks, okay, and the shell, and then how much

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for like the helmet the stick. Well, that's all you

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got to buy anyway.

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Speaker 3: The actual retail price.

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Speaker 2: I got to think you're a grand on between the skates,

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the stick, the helmets broke and they broke a stick

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about three weeks ago, and it was three seventy God

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damn dude.

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Speaker 4: But I know again I'm bitching about it.

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Speaker 3: We know a guy whose daughter plays competitive hockey, right,

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and she lost her stick, so he lost his crap

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on it. He lost his crap, buys her a new stick,

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goes up into her room. He goes, this place hasn't

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been cleaned in months, it looks like, goes behind the curtain,

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finds the stick she lost.

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Speaker 2: Oh but I mean that's got two sticks. That's a kid,

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that's a kid. We were sitting there during the semi

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final game against Victor, and I think that Victor kids

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broke five sticks during the game. I'm like, who, I

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feel bad for those parents. That's sixteen hundred right there

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in half on the ice. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a racket. They won't let you use wood

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or anything. You got to use the special brand, right, Well.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to use anything, you use any want.

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Nobody uses wood anymore because it sucks. It sucks, so

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you use the other one and they're and they're more

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expensive and they probably do last longer for the most part. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I mean, they they don't start breaking till like high school.

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Speaker 2: I just the way I was thinking about it, I go,

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we there is a Dan, a Kevin, and a Me

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and every friend group. I really think that because the

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more I think about it, because I'm going, you got

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you got Danny, who's trying to live to one hundred

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Speaker 3: We like the modern family of podcasts. We're a blended

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podcast of two parents, three guys. Okay, so two are divorced,

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two or two have been married, three have been married,

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two are currently married. Yes, there's six boys between the

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Speaker 2: Yea and uh yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's like it's like a blend the family

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Speaker 2: But the other thing is you're trying to live to

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one hundred and twelve taking supplements that nobody can pronounce it.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: I am trying to live as healthy as possible till

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either die or Jesus comes back. Okay, Okay, your lifestyle

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determines your death style. James Headfield Metallica.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin's what's gonna happen?

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna all both say no.

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Speaker 2: And Kevin's trying to survive to Tuesday, and I'm trying

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to remember why I opened the fridge fucking five minutes ago.

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I just going, it's that's that's it. That's the way

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it is. That's just the way it is. We got

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a uh, and wasn't here for this one?

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Speaker 3: My phone around?

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Speaker 2: Leave that? Okay, I got a You didn't say please again,

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and I just said, is my phone around?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's not a please.

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Speaker 2: He didn't say thank you for your handing it to him.

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Oh my god, can.

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Speaker 3: You call Alex little Hitler? Who you mouse your tongue?

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don't know whether to say this or not because I

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know which.

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Speaker 3: Means say it.

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Speaker 2: No, I know, I know, I know that, I know that,

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but I don't know how it's going to land with people.

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So we have to do uh in the mental health

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counseling classes, and.

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Speaker 3: That's where it's going to go.

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Speaker 2: And I'm I'm in a group class.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, a student.

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Speaker 2: Nerva albums and that your brain's out. No, no, So

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we have to do You have to lead a group

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at one point, and you have a partner, and you

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do it well. For some reason, there's a gap and

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you can't have a day a class without somebody running

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a psycho educational group for thirty minutes. So the people

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who would go next week are supposed to move up

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to this week, but they didn't want to. So I'm

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watching all this go back and forth a week ago,

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and I go, I'll do it. So I do a

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group yesterday, and I compared. I compared boxing to group

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therapy because group therapy is different. And it's just like

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I said, in boxing, it's the punch you didn't throw.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we talked about this one. The one punch

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you didn't throw, one step you didn't take.

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Speaker 2: So I did do this in a small group and

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brought the and ye, and I said, I'm going to

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do it in the large group. That way, I didn't

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have to really prepare anything else. But there were other

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nuances around it, like the greatest exactly right, right, But

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I mean, you are playing the greatest hits. I'm not

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gonna lie, but you gotta be able to also play

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in the moment, right, And you've got to do things

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that are called linking. And myself, you gotta have these

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more fluff you here and now.

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Speaker 3: You know you're a big you're a big fan in

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the in the in the in the bar community.

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Speaker 2: So he's, uh, you gotta have like here and now moments.

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So there are things take your shirt off next, so

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there are things you have to do shirtless, mental health.

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So I do this.

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Speaker 3: It makes you more raw, more real.

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Speaker 2: Ladies, ladies, It's like when you go on, touch your

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bare feet to the grass. Yes, grounding, grounding, take your

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shirt off.

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Speaker 4: It's open opportunity everybody.

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Speaker 2: I do it every day, man and ladies.

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Speaker 3: The grounding mat, so it's not real.

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Speaker 2: Ground Wait, you have a grounding math.

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Speaker 3: It's got me a grounding mat for Christmas.

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Speaker 2: It's also that it's that piece of trip that you

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buy for the die when you live in an apartment

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New York. I got one of those two from the

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grounding mat. It's where she sends him when she's sick

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of here in his mouth. You go to your grounding mat.

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So wait, let me finish this. Sorry, it's fine. I

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have a follow up with your die. Yes, but there's

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things you have to do in there. You have to

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talk about the group that came last, that went last week,

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and did anybody have questions? And so the people did

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it last week, did a great one about really coping

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mechanisms and things, and gave us a tree and had

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us right like, you know, things that we do that

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we probably shouldn't do as self care. You know, I've

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got drinking, smoking and all this shit in there. And

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then they go up to the leaves and you're supposed

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to put like the things we should do, the meditation,

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the exercise to taking a walk right exactly. And one

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kid made a really really I really like this guy.

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His name is Brian, and he made a great observation.

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He goes the leaves of a tree fall off and

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he goes, it's just like me doing the healthy things.

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I can do it for so long, but then the

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leaves fall off and I'm back to the trunk where

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I have my drinking. Right. So, when I came in

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because of that exercise, in all honesty, I have been

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to the gym four days since that last class, and I,

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you know, just in terms of schedule and stuff, and

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I have been eating healthier salmon, spinach, chicken, no cheese, no,

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you know, just stuff. And I so I bring that

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up and then you have to go through the confidentiality stuff.

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do the group. Here's where I get uncomfortable because afterwards

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they the professor sits down and says, how do you

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think it went? Just one on one with you? Or

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with the entire group? And he says to me, how

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do you run?

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Speaker 3: Is this like what the cop pulls your goes, uh,

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why do you think I pulled?

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Speaker 2: Joe? But this would be like having an air check

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in front of people. Yeah, understand saying the guy more

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Stan Mayne or more Rick McKenzie. And the guy is

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cool as ship, he's more Stan, so he uh, he

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sits down and goes, how do you think it went,

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and I go, I don't know. I thought it went

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pretty good, pretty well. You know there was anything you

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would have done different? And I said, yeah, I probably

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would have tried to link something or whatever, But I

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don't know. You're you're trying to like make sure you're

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you're hitting the things you supposed to, but bringing your

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authentic self and making this about step into the ring

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next time you're in a group. And how when you

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are leading group as a therapist, how do you get

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people to step into the ring? How it's it's that

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makes sense? Well, Danny, it's the same thing I said

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on on the radio when we would do something and

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I would really try to prepare something out, how do

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I get you to give a shit about what we're

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talking about right because a million other people are going

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to talk about, well, why are we going to talk

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about it and do it better or whatever?

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Speaker 3: Not duplicatable content.

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Speaker 2: So I was kind of the way I thought of this,

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and and so I opened up with the gloves, talked

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about stepping into the ring, then talked to like all

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this shit. So he says, how do you think it

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would here?

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Speaker 4: A couple of dick jokes over here, I dropped. I

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dropped close with.

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Speaker 2: You want to know how I closed, motherfucker, I said,

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Mike and say fuck off. But no, I talked about

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there's a there's a young woman in our in the

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in the group. She's I think she's when I say young,

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she's like twenty one. And I find her to be

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so funny. And we sat next to each other last

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semester in a class and we used to fucking laugh

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our asses off and ecuse it's me right, And then

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she became my counselor when we had to do counseling

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because she was in a different class, so like she

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had to counsel me, and I said a ton of

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shit in her like I just said ship that I

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may not even say to my own therapy. I just

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fucking bad it all out so radio, that's right, I'm

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not So this is where uh so, we did the

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privilege walk a while back, and I've mentioned that where

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they ask you different questions, and all I want to

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say about that to everybody was and again, some people's

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road to wherever they are just had less potholes. That's

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really what I believe. It's not that you didn't grow

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your ass off. It's not that you didn't work your

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ass off. It just means that sometimes you had a

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little more maybe better network, better connections. That's a little

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more privilege. It just is. It's just the way life is.

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So this girl is a minority, and she was way

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in the back, way in the back and of the

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privilege walk. And somebody said in the class, they were

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like the professor who did that class, different professor than

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the one in the group. Therapy says, but it's all

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the same people pretty much right from classic class. That

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professor said, uh, you know, what did you think about it?

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And somebody in the class said, I thought of and

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names this woman and says, I thought of her and

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how she may feel being in the back of the room.

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It's basically what she said. I maybe I'm not getting

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it accurate, accurate, said now Danny, careful, fucking careful.

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Speaker 4: So I was gonna go there too, I.

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Speaker 2: Know, I know't, but historically speaking, hang on a second.

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So I in that moment, because I don't want this person.

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I like this person, and I said, and I think

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she said, I didn't even really get off the back wall,

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and I went, I have no idea because I was

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the first one to the candy ball, and that's true.

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Speaker 3: He's like Whodricks who mounds.

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Speaker 2: So so last night how I closed the group was

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somebody said something. I go, you know what, I want

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to bring something up here because we're all in training.

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This is our shadow boxing right now. Right shadow boxing

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is how boxers figured it out. You can tell a

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lot about a boxer by watching them shadow boxing. It's

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the footwork. It's that kind of shit. You know, it

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looks funny, But the really good boxers they fucking got

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it down and they know because they're watching themselves. And

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it's just like listening to yourself if you're doing a

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podcast or a radio show and just critiquing. So what

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I said was, you know what, I want to go

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back to the privilege walk because I'll tell you what

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I remember. You know, I got to the candie bowl first,

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and I said, and the person was sitting right next

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to me, and I said, and we know that she

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was there, And I go, but I go, but here's

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the fucking thing. I go, Fuck it, We're all here,

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and that's the thing we should remember. Fuck it. We're

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all here, no matter how what road you took to

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get here. Potholes not potholes. Fuck it, we're all here,

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and I said, what are we going to do with it?

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And that's kind of how I ended the group.

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Speaker 4: Did you get a standing ovation when you no?

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Speaker 2: But they now want to make fuck they want to

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make T shirts. And then later on, when he was

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kind of really critiquing, I'll tell you what he said,

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he dropped an F bomb and somebody went, oh my god,

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I've never heard him swear. And I go, well, that's

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the magic vibe. Have people to see shit. But here's

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where I get uncomfortable, daddy, because uh, some people said

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to me, like, I wish you had slowed down, but

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you only had thirty minutes. So to not be a dick,

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I go. One of the biggest problems I have is

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letting the silence sit. I go for thirty years dead

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air was a bad thing. And so we're going on.

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So then it's the professor's time to talk, and he says,

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I've been teaching for a while. He goes, and I

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certainly did this in my own education and things, and

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he said there was another student at one point that

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I often think of who came in and I guess

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he played a Bruce Springsteen song on he played I'm

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on Fire on a guitar and then somehow let a group.

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He goes it was one of the best I've ever seen,

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and I think of he goes this tonight was absolutely

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one of the best groups I have ever seen run

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and he and he meant it for everybody because everybody

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was participating. So it's not just but the way it

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was facilitated, which was me the metaphors that were used,

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all this stuff.

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Speaker 3: Also, yeah, cursing the cursing box.

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Speaker 2: Right, but he goes it was authentically so it nice

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to hear, right, nice to hear. And then some people

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had some some what I thought was very valuable critique

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that they said. But he was saying really really nice things,

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even pulls me. Besides, after class, and goes, I hope

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that you have the opportunity to run groups. I think

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00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,559
you'd be excellent at it. And I know when I

471
00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:20,319
went upstairs to that small group, there was some ship

472
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,559
being talked about me because I got into.

473
00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:24,519
Speaker 3: The room last and it got all quiet.

474
00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 2: Well, no, this one person got quiet and I looked

475
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,160
right after my I go your face says it all, motherfucker,

476
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:31,000
I know.

477
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 3: You talk as shit that knows everything.

478
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: Well, see this is it? And I go, you look

479
00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:40,000
like the teacher's pet. You're not trying all, just trying

480
00:23:40,039 --> 00:23:43,279
to fucking do everything. Everybody else is Do you understand

481
00:23:43,319 --> 00:23:45,440
what I'm saying? And I go, God damn it. Can

482
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,519
I get a fucking break anywhere? Now? I got people

483
00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:49,720
there that don't want to deal with me. I got

484
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,519
other people in my life that don't want to deal

485
00:23:51,559 --> 00:23:53,839
with me.

486
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 4: Do they know your relation to the department had.

487
00:23:57,759 --> 00:24:01,640
Speaker 2: Only because he called it out? Yeah, he stood in

488
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:05,480
class and said, uh, I've drank PERSI moran when he

489
00:24:05,559 --> 00:24:11,200
threw the first pitch the Red Wings game. But lead

490
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,599
our privilege. Time out timeout one, time out one.

491
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,559
Speaker 3: We can raise money.

492
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:19,400
Speaker 2: Hang on, I could. It doesn't matter. I could. I

493
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,440
could go in there. I could blow the whole thing.

494
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,920
I could be you know, and and and fucking tank it.

495
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,480
Or I could go in there and actually take advantage

496
00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:28,440
of it and try to do the best I could.

497
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,559
It's an opportunity. I feel like it's an opportunity for

498
00:24:31,559 --> 00:24:34,839
me to learn something I've never learned. And I love learning,

499
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,599
and I love the deeper philosophical ship. I always have

500
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,079
go ahead face No, no, I'm not I actually have question.

501
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,279
Speaker 3: I would to you, you want to do yours first, so.

502
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,519
Speaker 2: You talk about these groups. Do people in this class

503
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,880
are they more willing to work with you? Or do

504
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,720
they not want to work with you? Oh? No, they're

505
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,319
willing to work. Actually, I feel like, are you the

506
00:24:56,319 --> 00:25:01,839
popular kid or you're like last pick Bill and my

507
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,640
last pick Bill. I don't know the answer to that.

508
00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:06,559
Speaker 4: I really don't know the answer to your last pick.

509
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 2: I guess I mean there.

510
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 3: You can't at the table.

511
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: If I if there's group stuff, there's always somebody wants

512
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,319
to work with me. Yeah, I don't know. Do they

513
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,599
draws trials before it's your turn? Sorry, d I do

514
00:25:21,759 --> 00:25:23,279
start to think the mits.

515
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 3: We don't get the hits. Danny shouldn't be panting, you're

516
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:31,880
just holding the mits.

517
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: I just I don't know, Kevin, I don't know. I'm

518
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,279
starting to worry. And this is something that never has

519
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,599
entered my mind ever in my life at all, whether

520
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,920
somebody liked me or not. I just never really I

521
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,920
never went that deep on it. I figured I don't

522
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,799
like everybody, so probably everybody doesn't like me, and whatever,

523
00:25:54,319 --> 00:25:56,240
you know what I mean, and and and move on.

524
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,279
And I wasn't there. What did I used to always

525
00:25:58,279 --> 00:26:00,359
say to you, I'm not burning calories, I'm not wasting time.

526
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 3: On Yeah, that was your thing. Yeah, twenty seventeen, you

527
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,680
had a new phrase. I don't purn calories on that

528
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,400
mother effort. I don't purk calories.

529
00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:07,759
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to give a speech at graduation, right, No,

530
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,079
I guarantee you're gonna be asked to give graduation Yeah,

531
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:11,200
but I.

532
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,319
Speaker 3: Don't think it. Masters and master's good graduation.

533
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 2: They have speech, so I don't.

534
00:26:15,559 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for your doctor, for your doctory. Everybody has

535
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,079
to present give their defense.

536
00:26:21,559 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: No, but not a graduation. Not.

537
00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:24,599
Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of the graduation.

538
00:26:25,759 --> 00:26:27,279
Speaker 2: Well, you got to give your defense in front of

539
00:26:27,319 --> 00:26:29,839
a team of people. That's a that's good.

540
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,079
Speaker 3: That's why I think boxing is a metaphor for life.

541
00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to give a speech. I can already

542
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,000
see it. No, but here's what I sit there and

543
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:36,880
help you find write it.

544
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 2: I I have said, I have said that I am

545
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,839
going to throw a huge party when we all graduate.

546
00:26:44,599 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 4: Oh, Damien upstairs, I don't know.

547
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't be bigger than no, No, No.

548
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,279
Speaker 4: I think Damien all west side.

549
00:26:51,839 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 2: I don't know.

550
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,839
Speaker 3: But I'll read out the entire Walmart parking lot.

551
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,599
Speaker 2: Bill palooza may gonna be a podcast situation too, where

552
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,400
we we we do a live show.

553
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,799
Speaker 3: To pass Mike doing his Deviled eggs the Yeah, but

554
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,240
my worry is that you become like the kiss ass or.

555
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: Everybody that feels to great. And I know that that's

556
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,400
what this person was saying. And I sent the person

557
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,680
a text later that night of nice text, just saying

558
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:24,559
middle finger over they did not and it wasn't. But

559
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:27,880
then I'm going, ooh, was it taken as that? Because

560
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,480
I did come in and go, I know you're talking

561
00:27:29,519 --> 00:27:32,000
about me, and the person just started laughing, and I go,

562
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,559
I know it. I can feel it. I can feel it.

563
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:36,279
I got a sixth sense. I can feel. But I'm

564
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:39,119
making I'm making somewhat of a joke. But I'm also like,

565
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,640
come on, man, I didn't ask him to say this ship.

566
00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 4: Isn't somebody who wishes they could be you? No, not

567
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,920
in the in the realm of the class. I don't

568
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,480
think I want to be the number one.

569
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:52,559
Speaker 2: Well when somebody they used to ask me last semester

570
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,440
or how'd you do on that test or whatever, and

571
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,039
I'd give the number that I got, and they would

572
00:27:56,039 --> 00:27:58,240
get mad, not mad, but they'd be like, you gotta

573
00:27:58,279 --> 00:28:01,319
be kidding, and I'd be like no, And so I

574
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:07,480
don't think you're stupid. I think they're surprised at I

575
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:08,400
think they're surprised.

576
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: Look at the old guy.

577
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 4: They all think you're some dumb radio guy.

578
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,079
Speaker 3: I think that no one knew tie that in go ahead.

579
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody knew what to expect. Honestly, I

580
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,119
don't think anybody did. And I think when I get

581
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,839
in there and then I say something, and I think

582
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,000
that in the beginning, my I guess it's a defense

583
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:30,920
mechanism I'm learning. I don't know. I just see I

584
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,759
just see funny all the fucking time, all the time.

585
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,440
I saw something so goddamn funny the other day, and

586
00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:43,400
I could tell nobody. I could say fucking nothing, because

587
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,279
you know, I'm in the school because I like to,

588
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:48,079
I need. I want health insurance and it's better health insurance.

589
00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:50,240
And I have Jameson living with me, so I do this,

590
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:59,079
and I'm with this one young man. Please just just

591
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,440
let it, just let it sit. You could laugh, but

592
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:04,119
just let it sit. Just let it sit. Please. So

593
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:09,240
there's a young guy who I just a delight of

594
00:29:09,359 --> 00:29:13,799
a human being, this kid, but he has a physical

595
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:17,880
disability where one of his arms doesn't work as well.

596
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:21,440
It's not attrophy or just he can't really move that arm, Okay,

597
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,599
and it's almost like the whole left side of his body.

598
00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:26,559
You can make your assumptions. I don't know the answer

599
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:32,079
to that. I'm not here. I'm not I'm not saying anything.

600
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,359
Speaker 3: For col alright.

601
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:39,759
Speaker 2: So the art teacher is a really creative, wonderful person

602
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,519
who is from another country and has a pretty thick

603
00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:48,400
accent from that country. Okay, and she pronounces this kid's

604
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:54,920
name someone incorrectly that I'm surprised that these kids don't

605
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,160
pick up on it, because I would immediately. I'm not

606
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,599
saying anything on here. I'm not saying anything on here.

607
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,440
I will tell I will tell you assholes off the air,

608
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,759
and you can tell me. You can then kind of

609
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:09,480
stay something that you set, but hang on. The woman says,

610
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,200
So they're doing a clay project, right, and you've got

611
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,279
a kid who has really one hand that works well,

612
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,160
and she's calling them up to get their clay project

613
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,119
to go back and now paint it and glaze it.

614
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,720
I think I know where this is going, and she

615
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,200
what what is it? I wait, no, no, and see

616
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,480
if you're right. You might be right. Clay Donner no, no, no, no, no, no,

617
00:30:33,559 --> 00:30:37,839
Jesus no, no, no, one hand he did. He did

618
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,480
a great job. He really did. Bro.

619
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 3: There was a cornhole player with no hands and legs

620
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,799
who shot somebody. If you put your mind to it,

621
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:45,799
you could do anything.

622
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,799
Speaker 2: So here's the funny part. And I can't do anything.

623
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,960
I can't laugh, I can't. I can't anything. And there's

624
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,119
a reason why this is even funnier. And that's when

625
00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:59,160
I'll tell you off air. You will you Kevin will

626
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,400
go fucking insane when I tell you this. So that

627
00:31:02,759 --> 00:31:06,960
they says so and so here's your thing, carry it

628
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,200
with two hands back to the table, and I'm going.

629
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:16,640
You gotta waiting. We have the same planet. I'm just there.

630
00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:21,000
I can't and there's nobody, there's nobody. I can fucking

631
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:24,119
say anything to nobody. Do you know how painful that is?

632
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: It's like that episode of Yes.

633
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,519
Speaker 2: Well I can't. I'll tell you why you didn't get

634
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:30,480
a text afterwards.

635
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,319
Speaker 3: No, it's like that scene from the Office where Jim

636
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:36,799
realizes Jim finds Dwight, thinking goes into Dwight's trim the prankum.

637
00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:39,559
He sees Angela's feet. He doesn't know it's Angela. He

638
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:42,880
thinks Dwight got a hooker. He wants to call Pam,

639
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,960
but he realizes he can't. Then he has nobody to call.

640
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,920
He's got a storytell and he can't tell anybody.

641
00:31:48,079 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: Right, So this is exactly that. And but but think,

642
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:57,640
like my, I find just life in general, And maybe

643
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,079
it was a coping mechanic for me since I was

644
00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:05,119
a kid, But I found life in general fucking hilarious.

645
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,799
Like the kid who is Locker was next to me

646
00:32:07,839 --> 00:32:11,680
in school, not very popular, kind of quiet, but always

647
00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:15,440
dressed like in a leather jacket and a bandana tied

648
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,680
around his head. So I called him Willie, as in

649
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:24,880
Willie Nelson. He goes to a Willie Nelson concert and says,

650
00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:27,799
I got Willy to sign my back. I go, you

651
00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:30,519
gotta be fucking kidding me. He says, no, pulls up

652
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:30,880
his shirt.

653
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 3: I go, tattoo.

654
00:32:31,559 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: I go, if you don't get that tattooed, No, he goes,

655
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,480
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Comes

656
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,480
in one day has it tattooed, but it's like raw.

657
00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:40,559
And so when he pulls his shirt down, I slap

658
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,720
him on the backrel That was me. That was me,

659
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,200
and I go, great, tattoo like I used to do

660
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,359
that all the time. His name was Rich. I would

661
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,000
love to know where Rich is today and what an

662
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,359
asshole he thought I was. But it was always like

663
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,359
I was always looking to play, have fun, just fucking around.

664
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,079
I didn't mean it bad, but you.

665
00:32:58,359 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: Ran again, So Scott's.

666
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: You sent to your classmate. You are so stupid and

667
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:09,000
I am so smart. No, it was not. Was there

668
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,960
a thought of that, No, nope, not.

669
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 4: At what point will that thought come out?

670
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:14,759
Speaker 2: Not even close? Because what I actually what I wrote

671
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,839
was I've learned so much from you. That's what I wrote. Nice,

672
00:33:19,839 --> 00:33:21,960
I'm not, I'm not. I'm just saying like I don't

673
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,240
want them to all fucking I just don't you know

674
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:27,440
what I mean. You want to be liked. It's not

675
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:30,119
even to be liked. I guess I don't really care

676
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,319
if i'd be like, here's the thing is, though, I

677
00:33:32,319 --> 00:33:35,559
don't want to be seen as some kind of spoiled bitch. Yes,

678
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,279
but the thing is, like I did the work. You

679
00:33:38,279 --> 00:33:40,240
could have done it too. You had the opportunity to

680
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:42,640
step up. I'm not even getting graded on this, I

681
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,240
will tell you because he said, I'm not going to

682
00:33:44,319 --> 00:33:46,559
grate it because you've already I already did one with

683
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,400
a partner. They needed somebody. No one was stepping up.

684
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:50,440
I got fuck it, I'll do it.

685
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,079
Speaker 3: There's three things that's for some extra credit. Then three

686
00:33:53,079 --> 00:33:59,200
things I've taken front of me. What number one?

687
00:33:59,319 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 2: Number one?

688
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 3: Often, not always, but often people hate seeing in you

689
00:34:03,799 --> 00:34:06,279
what they wish they had themselves. Yeah, even in small

690
00:34:06,319 --> 00:34:07,319
instances like this class.

691
00:34:07,359 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: I know that.

692
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:10,679
Speaker 3: Number two. Number two years of radio. Think about how

693
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,079
many people we've counseled, yes, or theories, because everything a

694
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,039
radio is really a theory, an idea that you bring

695
00:34:16,119 --> 00:34:19,360
up and you talk about. Well, yeah, right, so like everyone,

696
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,000
like people used to call us all the time for

697
00:34:21,079 --> 00:34:24,079
advice on everything, and then we'd help. We'd ask each

698
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,960
other for help with things both on and off the ears.

699
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,280
You kind of have that psych experience for years without

700
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,199
being called this a therapist. And number three this privilege walk.

701
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,079
Speaker 2: Yeah you how many kids were in this class?

702
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:38,159
Speaker 3: How many people are in this class?

703
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: I think there's like twenty seven.

704
00:34:40,039 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: Okay, let's say twenty seven people and you were the

705
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,039
first one to get to the candy jar. Yeah, these

706
00:34:44,039 --> 00:34:46,800
people know you were molested. And how many potholes does

707
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,159
that take?

708
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,119
Speaker 2: Yes? Because I have mentioned that, but.

709
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:54,559
Speaker 3: It wasn't in their line of questioning.

710
00:34:55,079 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 2: I think there was, so I think because I stopping

711
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:58,639
them from that.

712
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 3: I was molested. Let's do it a better life than

713
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,639
all y'all. Either that is, did they neither recalibrate this

714
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,400
test or or these people are so self centered and

715
00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:13,039
self indulgent and self loaded.

716
00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: No, I think you were answering questions and what you

717
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,599
did was you took a step forward or you took

718
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:21,480
a step back, depending on the direction. So there were

719
00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:26,119
questions like did you step Yeah? Did you grow up

720
00:35:26,159 --> 00:35:29,519
in a house I'm try to no, no, I know,

721
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:33,280
but did you grow up in a house where, uh

722
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,440
one or more of your parents had a college degree?

723
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,840
Did you grow up in a house where one or

724
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:47,039
more of your parents or guardians had an advanced degree

725
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:51,079
beyond college. Did you grow up in a home where

726
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,239
the guardians had a job that required them. Did you

727
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,400
grow up in a home that had more than three

728
00:35:56,679 --> 00:35:58,039
or four books or whatever that.

729
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 3: Did you grow up with parents or guardians? That would

730
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:00,800
be a question.

731
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. There was also and then there were.

732
00:36:03,519 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 3: Kid you know Jerry Sandusky. Okay, take one step back.

733
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:08,599
Speaker 2: There were there were things like did you have some

734
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,800
uh anybody have to like go to rehab or something

735
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,039
like anybody used drugs or alcohol in your family that

736
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:19,280
resulted in rehare. I know some radio people I had that.

737
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,960
I did have that. Uh So I took a step back.

738
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

739
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:28,519
Speaker 2: And then there was I'm trying to think the other

740
00:36:28,679 --> 00:36:32,119
step back. Oh, you know what I think they did

741
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:34,760
say abuse? There was a sexual abuse. Maybe I stepped

742
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,480
back three times. And then there was one where were

743
00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:43,079
you ever accused by someone of harassment or crime or

744
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:45,559
anything like that? And there was a time where I

745
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:49,679
was leaving the wind field and I had been DJing yeah,

746
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,079
and I got pulled out It wasn't me, and then

747
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:53,880
the girls are scared and I got brought back to

748
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,000
my car by the police officer. But I said that

749
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,239
was excuse. I probably could have gone either way on

750
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,639
that one because I never even saw the people who

751
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,679
were accusing me, So maybe it was made up at

752
00:37:03,679 --> 00:37:06,599
the time. I don't know, so uh, yeah, but I

753
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:08,599
got the rest of them. I don't remember the rest

754
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:11,360
of the questions. But it's interesting, you know, I mean,

755
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,239
it was interesting, and I don't it's just funny how

756
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,039
we weigh Well, the only thing I'm saying is like

757
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,239
or how the questions are kind of it seems loaded.

758
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:21,480
I don't think so, I don't.

759
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 3: I don't know, because to me, like being abused like

760
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,800
that should be a lot heavier than one step.

761
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: Well everything was one one step, one step front or

762
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:29,800
one step right.

763
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,639
Speaker 3: But that's my point though, that's my point that like

764
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:34,079
everyone's got a different path, like, but like you said, Effet,

765
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,480
we're all here. That should be the main point. But

766
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:39,800
I think I think too many times we play the

767
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,760
victimization card or embrace the victimization card.

768
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 2: I don't know that you can say victim is victim

769
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,360
is victimization card when you were talking about your your parent,

770
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,559
guardian's education. Yeah, you know what I mean, that's maybe

771
00:37:52,559 --> 00:37:54,480
that's not the right way. That's what they're and all

772
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:57,920
their circumstances card. Yeah, and all that is is opportunity

773
00:37:58,159 --> 00:38:00,400
is basically what's the thing. It's like there my.

774
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,199
Speaker 3: Parents, what the college?

775
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,199
Speaker 2: No I know, But so in the privilege walk. You

776
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:08,079
wouldn't move on that one. You'd either stay stationary or

777
00:38:08,159 --> 00:38:10,480
unless it said take one step back if this happened.

778
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:11,920
So there was a lot of that. I mean it

779
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,599
was you know, it was not like I mean I

780
00:38:14,639 --> 00:38:17,519
broke free. You know, all of a sudden, I became

781
00:38:18,679 --> 00:38:20,320
who's that famous horse? I can't remember the.

782
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: Secretary of secretary that I got touch and I still

783
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,159
finished the in front of everybody else.

784
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 2: That's right, all right, we'll take you my mouth bar.

785
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,280
We'll take a moment. I'm gonna tell Kevin and Dan

786
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:35,559
uh the whole picture of the thing that you do.

787
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:38,159
You want to react on air, No, I don't, but

788
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,199
I mean you will because you're not going to be

789
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,039
able to I think Kevin well, I don't think Kevin

790
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:44,760
will be able to handle not and uh. And then

791
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:47,400
we will come back and we'll get to somebody wrote

792
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,360
in a complaint about a recent episode. Not a complaint.

793
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,079
I shouldn't say that, dear Bill. I think it's it's

794
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:58,159
an observation. I do want to respond here, what's a

795
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,000
comment like that?

796
00:38:59,159 --> 00:39:04,639
Speaker 3: So so we're still making it.

797
00:39:05,679 --> 00:39:06,119
Speaker 2: I don't care.

798
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,599
Speaker 3: I don't care if everybody who listens this podcast hates me.

799
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,480
Those long as they have an opinion.

800
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 2: Oh good, they don't hate you. That's not true, Kevin.

801
00:39:14,199 --> 00:39:16,119
We will take them home and be right back. When

802
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:19,159
it comes to home improvement, you've got choices. Let's say

803
00:39:19,159 --> 00:39:23,639
there's a hole in the bedroom wall and somehow nobody

804
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:27,679
in the house knows how it got there. You could

805
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,800
fix it, I mean there's always YouTube, right, but you

806
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,920
know three hours later it's gonna look like a patch job,

807
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,840
not even a good patch job. And how about that

808
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,440
leak under the kitchen sink. Yeah, you said you'd get

809
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,079
to it, and that was what two and a half

810
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,920
three months ago. If we're being honest, we all have

811
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,719
that list, the one word deep down, you're not totally

812
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,559
sure you've got the skills to pull it off. If

813
00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:59,199
it's my list, I'm calling back of all trades. Holes

814
00:39:59,199 --> 00:40:04,400
in the wall, handled, leaky sinks done, full kitchen remodel,

815
00:40:04,639 --> 00:40:08,239
Yeah they got that too. And hey, warmer weather's coming.

816
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,960
How's that deck looking? Need it extended? Rebuilt outdoor patio.

817
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,719
Don't be a deckhead called Mac of all trades. Five

818
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,840
eight five to zero two ninety two eighteen. That's five

819
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,840
eight five two zero two ninety two eighteen, and you

820
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,079
can see all they do online at Macofalltrades dot net.

821
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:50,440
They'll handle it so you don't have to. Danny brought

822
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,199
something up before we started, and it was, what did

823
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:56,920
you do you saw Mama Cass last night?

824
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,559
Speaker 3: I was I just watched YouTube videos sometimes, and I

825
00:40:59,599 --> 00:41:02,440
saw a video of the Mama's and the Papas, Yeah,

826
00:41:02,519 --> 00:41:04,880
making their debut on the Ed television show. And they

827
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,800
did a medley of four or three songs. They did

828
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,920
Monday Monday, so.

829
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: They had hits, but this was her first time on

830
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,199
that show.

831
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, Monday, Monday. And then, uh, can I.

832
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:14,039
Speaker 2: Tell you what year it was?

833
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I think it was sixty seven. I think

834
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,840
it was sixty seven, maybe maybe sixty I don't know,

835
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,800
but it was the mid sixties. It was a color uh,

836
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:24,480
and it was it was Monday Monday, California Dreaming. And

837
00:41:24,519 --> 00:41:27,119
then the third song that Mama Cass sang, yeah, And

838
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,679
it was funny because so Papa John Phillips is introducing

839
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,519
the band to Ed Sullivan and he goes, so there's

840
00:41:34,599 --> 00:41:38,920
our Mexican gypsy Michelle, right, and she's like gorgeous. And

841
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,639
then there's Denny Doherty. Singer. And then there's Mama cass Elliott,

842
00:41:43,679 --> 00:41:47,599
who is also our magic mushroom, and she gives him

843
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:51,320
this weird look like really and but I mean, if

844
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,280
you look at her the dress she's wearing, she kind

845
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,360
of looks like a purple mushroom. But she's like she's

846
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,320
the most like animated on the stage when they're singing

847
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,880
that great, oh, phenomenal singer.

848
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 2: But she died. Mama cast was always supposed to be fat,

849
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,440
and she was allegedly died while eating a ham sand

850
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:10,159
She had a heart tax, but there was a ham

851
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,000
sandwich and the ham.

852
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,320
Speaker 3: Sandwich sitting next to her bed when she had the

853
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:12,760
heart attack.

854
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: It's a bad way to go if you, I mean,

855
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:19,519
you know, okay and young, Yes, I don't know how old,

856
00:42:19,519 --> 00:42:20,199
but I don't either.

857
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: I don't think she was twenty seven, like she might

858
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,800
have been younger, but uh, but she wasn't bad looking, no,

859
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,559
like everybody always told me that she was.

860
00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 2: Nobody wanted hers, okay, but she was big and fat.

861
00:42:31,679 --> 00:42:34,639
She was big, okay, but for the time, she was

862
00:42:34,679 --> 00:42:35,199
big and fat.

863
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: And I think she would be kind of like considered

864
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,920
big now, like she'd be doing the ozembic thing now.

865
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, hang on a second, This is where I

866
00:42:40,519 --> 00:42:43,400
was going to go. I think that Mammy, you had

867
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,679
to work hard to be fat in nineteen sixty seven.

868
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,800
I just to processed food so it could be a

869
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:49,400
genetic thing.

870
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 3: Who knows David did a song about no one's getting

871
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:55,920
fat except Mama cast Dude, he did a song like that.

872
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: Two thirty and sixty seven is like three twenty seven.

873
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,840
Now she I don't know. She was thirty two when

874
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,639
she died. Okay, so she was older. Well that's still

875
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,480
but she didn't a.

876
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 3: Heart attack though, right it is, Oh gosh, like forty

877
00:43:10,199 --> 00:43:12,760
forty should be the beginning of heart attack age. It

878
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,679
shouldn't be the thirty No. I mean, well, dude, I'm

879
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:15,280
forty six.

880
00:43:15,679 --> 00:43:19,639
Speaker 2: The but Mama Cass, I would think today. I wonder

881
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,239
if she would be considered big again because of ozempic, Like,

882
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,519
would it be suggested to her or a while ago

883
00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:29,000
it just wasn't. It was not even a thing. I know.

884
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: I think they suggested to more and more people.

885
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. I said things about gop ones and

886
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,440
got pushed back from a listener, And I don't know

887
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,719
if I've softened my thing I worry that a shortcut

888
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,280
isn't a long sustainable thing. But there are people who

889
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,239
are benefiting from it, and there are people who are

890
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,480
borderline diabetic that maybe this keeps them off diabetes. I

891
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:57,079
don't know, I don't care. I just thought died and exercises. Well,

892
00:43:57,199 --> 00:44:00,159
there thing that used to be bad to say, and

893
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:00,719
now well, you.

894
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:03,639
Speaker 3: Know how, Like they found out that monoxidil it was

895
00:44:03,679 --> 00:44:06,159
originally a heart pill or a heart solution, but they

896
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:08,000
realized it really didn't anything of your heart, but it

897
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:10,679
was helping people's hair grow out, like, so they gave

898
00:44:10,679 --> 00:44:12,320
it to So they started recommending it to people, and

899
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,480
all of a sudden, men were using it for their hair,

900
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,960
and it became a thing sometimes off label usage of

901
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,639
prescription draws. So now they're for inflammation. They're recommending ozembic

902
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:23,599
to people who don't even have a weight issue, just

903
00:44:23,639 --> 00:44:24,400
to deal with pain.

904
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: I am hearing that too. So Mamma cast apparently was

905
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,760
two thirty eight when she died in seventy four. Throughout

906
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,159
her life, her count weight we fluctuated significantly due to

907
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:39,800
extreme crash and starvation diets, reaching a higher.

908
00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:42,039
Speaker 4: Three hundred and at about one seventy five.

909
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: So she was on her way down when she had

910
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,119
the heart attack. Don't we know somebody who lost a

911
00:44:47,159 --> 00:44:48,960
ton of weight and then had a heart attack, Tiny

912
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:49,760
Glover or somebody.

913
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,679
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, tiny was on it. Yeah, treadmill. But yes

914
00:44:55,039 --> 00:44:58,679
it is true. Five five wow man, that is that is.

915
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,079
It reminds me of my bus driver when I was

916
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:06,559
a kid, and I used to say, we made up

917
00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:09,599
a song Missus Barry, missus Berry. I think drove my

918
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,320
school bus from kindergarten to Senior York as when I

919
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,960
we get in trouble, I have to take the school bus,

920
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,480
and uh, I used to sing a song where was

921
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,440
I ahead of go? She was my berry? Was to

922
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:24,159
like Chuck Berry's Blueberry Hill or something, and it was

923
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:30,079
she's four feet high and two feet wat, she's my berry,

924
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:35,760
wears those shades upon her eyes. She's my berry. I

925
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,400
used to sing that on the school bus. All right,

926
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,480
here is the see. See you're getting insight into what

927
00:45:43,519 --> 00:45:43,840
I was.

928
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 3: Like when you met Tommu Lay. He must have been

929
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,119
I met my soulmate.

930
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: Well I felt. I will tell you that it was

931
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,320
a very kindred, kindred spirits. Yes, I will say that,

932
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:57,559
but I didn't have sometimes the ball to say those things,

933
00:45:57,639 --> 00:45:59,800
like there were just some things I just wouldn't and

934
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,079
he did. But I certainly saw the funny and appreciated

935
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:06,760
the funny. I could see it like all the time.

936
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: There was one time when we were at Tommy's house yea,

937
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,800
and one of the one of the co hosts at

938
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:16,000
the time, had lunch with another co host from another

939
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:21,840
radio station, and you guys like were smoking weed, you

940
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,079
and Tommy and Rich Yeah, and Phil and I and

941
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:30,199
the other Phil and I weren't. It was Tommy's living room, yes,

942
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:34,079
and you guys were talking about the two people having

943
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,559
lunch and talking about all the things you guys they

944
00:46:36,559 --> 00:46:39,960
would order, and all the food at house got sunburned

945
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:41,920
because they were out there for so long. And you

946
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,360
guys like did a forty five minutes just out there lutch.

947
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:46,159
Speaker 2: We're fucking crying. Yeah, we had.

948
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 3: Pictures of you like howling we were.

949
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: My stomach hurts so bad. I can remember that now.

950
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,079
My stomach hurts so bad I thought I was gonna

951
00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:56,320
throw up. Yeah, and the bad Okay, so it's not

952
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:56,920
nice to me.

953
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:03,639
Speaker 3: Did you guys have look Wayne County?

954
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 2: There used to be it's not nice to make fun

955
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,719
of heavy people. Why looking at me as whole? I

956
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,599
should look at myself. Okay, I don't think of ai.

957
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,840
I'm way over. I'm way over. So there used to

958
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,679
video you did you see my gut? I know I

959
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,800
was that. I was so. I was so happy that

960
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,719
I started back at the gym and started eating healthy

961
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:34,320
and going. Man, anytime now, anytime kick it. There used

962
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,159
to be some very very big people that would go

963
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,639
into one of the studios because they had a coffee table,

964
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,719
but it was also like a fish bowl because there

965
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,679
was glass on each side. But you would be in

966
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:47,559
there privately, you know the studio I'm talking about and you,

967
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,119
but everybody could see it. So they would go in,

968
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,880
and then sometimes one of them got pregnant and they

969
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:58,719
would lay on the couch right and so it was

970
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,199
referred to by somebody as because I think, what was

971
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,840
the movie The Joy Luck Club had come out and

972
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:11,119
he called this the Chow Luck Club. And then one

973
00:48:11,159 --> 00:48:13,559
of them got became pregnant, but the person was so

974
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:14,719
big he couldn't really tell.

975
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,519
Speaker 4: Was it the one that we shared the office with

976
00:48:17,599 --> 00:48:19,440
that was like diagonal from us?

977
00:48:19,559 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer.

978
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 4: That had fun with twins.

979
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,199
Speaker 2: No, no, not that person, but this this person became

980
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:32,800
pregnant and her name was Claire, and she was referred

981
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:37,159
to as the Claire Sandwich Project. And then when she

982
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:41,480
became pregnant, he they always go, did her dip break yet?

983
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,679
And it's so bad, and like I like her dip

984
00:48:48,679 --> 00:48:51,039
it goes, you're hell of a good go because instead

985
00:48:51,079 --> 00:48:53,000
of for water breaking, dip would break.

986
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 3: I thought you made a joke about e Claire.

987
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 2: He did, but bro, come on, Clarian, that Claire Sandwich

988
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,440
project was there. All right, let me get to this thing,

989
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,760
because this will be interesting for everybody. The other day

990
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:11,079
on the podcast, I had talked about President Trump's reaction

991
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,119
to the death What oh.

992
00:49:14,559 --> 00:49:15,159
Speaker 3: I didn't hear this.

993
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: You didn't hear it.

994
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:17,159
Speaker 3: I heard about the reaction.

995
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:26,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Cohen died and Cohen looks like he's gonna die. Yeah,

996
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,599
Muller died. Is it mother Mueller? They call him, Okay,

997
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:35,440
they call him. So Muller died, and President Trump said

998
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,840
good or something else right, and went on. And all

999
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:45,199
I was saying was it became it wasn't really about Trump.

1000
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,199
Wasn't the intended thing. It was like, it's a very

1001
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,800
human thing to be petty at times, and you know

1002
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:54,719
what I'm saying. But then it became like President Trump

1003
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,519
has done things that no one else has ever done,

1004
00:49:58,199 --> 00:50:01,199
like the first time he ran. So I'm when I

1005
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,280
brought this up, I was referring to twenty sixteen, and

1006
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,559
I just said, I don't know that anybody on any

1007
00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:09,960
side of the aisle at that moment thought he was

1008
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:13,480
going to win the nomination at that moment when they

1009
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,360
were a bunch of people when he's calling him little

1010
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,400
Mark or Rubio. But it started to be people are like,

1011
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,159
you can do that right, right, you know Jeb Bush?

1012
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,679
I mean, did not everybody think Jeb Bush would be representing?

1013
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like you want to talk about like a

1014
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,480
good old boys club, Jeb Bush was like the vice president.

1015
00:50:30,599 --> 00:50:32,639
Speaker 2: So whether like him or not, that was my That

1016
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,480
was kind of my point, And I go, he has

1017
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:40,079
never not been who he is, no matter what we

1018
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:43,880
can say, not presidential, I get it, but he's always

1019
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,320
been that guy. Yeah, at least in office and probably

1020
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,400
throughout his entire life.

1021
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,679
Speaker 3: Yeah. The only time he wasn't that guy was on

1022
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,440
the Apprentice when they could edit him out.

1023
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: So we got we got this and and so Laura

1024
00:50:57,119 --> 00:51:01,000
said something about I don't well, I think he gets

1025
00:51:01,039 --> 00:51:04,119
in here. This person writes, I got a question for

1026
00:51:04,199 --> 00:51:07,920
you and your brand, your band of misfits and sex toys,

1027
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:14,199
about her comment around dumb quote dumb educated white males.

1028
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:18,639
The data don't back you up. Trump's twenty twenty four

1029
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,039
win came with a more diverse coalition than ever. Big

1030
00:51:22,079 --> 00:51:24,760
gains with Hispanic voters and men of color.

1031
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 3: So I'm big with the blacks. I'm a huge fan

1032
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,400
of the blacks, great relationship with the blacks.

1033
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:34,760
Speaker 2: So if you let me see what I'd say. If

1034
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:39,440
you call that okay, I'm getting texts at the same time.

1035
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,719
Speaker 3: The Mexicans call they want me to build the wall.

1036
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 2: So if you call that dumb white males, you're just

1037
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:48,039
insulting millions of non white voters who looked at the

1038
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:50,960
same facts and still chose him. Do you apply that

1039
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:54,159
same standard to black and Hispanic voters who moved toward Trump.

1040
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,320
Don't even get me started on the gun discussion. If

1041
00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:03,440
strict gun laws and democratic leadership were the magic solution, Chicago, Baltimore, Oakland, Filly,

1042
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:07,800
and Detroit would be the safest places in America, not

1043
00:52:08,039 --> 00:52:10,719
some of the most violent. What scares me is that

1044
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,000
you guys would vote for a half dead guy or

1045
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:18,480
someone like Kamala who absolutely is not fit for the presidency,

1046
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,960
than Trump, who was actually making a difference. So here's

1047
00:52:23,599 --> 00:52:25,719
I want to respond to this, and I I was

1048
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:26,960
going to write it, and I go, now, I'll do

1049
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:31,159
it on the podcast because I got the message, right,

1050
00:52:31,199 --> 00:52:34,440
I got a message, and I do appreciate this message

1051
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,400
because things get interesting. And what I was referring to

1052
00:52:38,599 --> 00:52:40,800
was when he first came on, because I didn't see

1053
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,760
as much name calling this time. Matter of fact, I

1054
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,000
think I said in that podcast you were here that

1055
00:52:46,119 --> 00:52:52,440
I thought Trump was somewhat less trumpish when Biden was

1056
00:52:53,079 --> 00:52:54,920
not doing well in the one debate, to the point

1057
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,119
where they took him out of the presidency, right or

1058
00:52:57,199 --> 00:53:00,000
I wouldn't let him run, not out of the president,

1059
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:04,519
but wouldn't let it run. So first run, Trump was

1060
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:10,400
a political grenade. He was in a suit that was

1061
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,000
Trump because he was coming in and he was doing

1062
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:15,639
things that I don't think I've ever seen. I didn't

1063
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,800
I don't remember anybody calling names, not.

1064
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 3: An American president. Well, I remember, not in the way

1065
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:22,840
they mean Bush Newcucus, like through mud. But they were

1066
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:23,880
like no, but they.

1067
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: Weren't like calling names little Marco Rubio, you little hands

1068
00:53:28,039 --> 00:53:32,719
like no, nobody was belitterally getting over there, Christie.

1069
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,559
Speaker 3: Yes, like there was none of.

1070
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: That ever, right, that is Krispy kree. Right. So that's

1071
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,920
what I'm talking about, not the whole presidency, not every policy.

1072
00:53:43,039 --> 00:53:46,079
That's not what I was mentioning, nor was she, and

1073
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:50,320
and not not even this person or any person's group

1074
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,519
chat has running commentary on all this ship, not at

1075
00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:59,320
all the version. And this is where I actually agree

1076
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,280
with part of what the guy said. Trump to me

1077
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:07,519
built a coalition that surprised a lot of people I did.

1078
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:12,519
That's real, that happened. I can't really deny that. But

1079
00:54:12,599 --> 00:54:14,840
here's the problem, and this is where to me it

1080
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,519
goes sideways. We have completely as a society lost our

1081
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:23,400
ability to separate a point from a person. Well, yeah,

1082
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,840
we can't do it. And the second you say anything

1083
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:32,880
about someone, people assume you're saying everything about them. And

1084
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:37,360
that's why I said, we are now like diehard sports

1085
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,440
fans for political groups. And it's not that you're wrong,

1086
00:54:40,599 --> 00:54:42,960
it's you're dead fucking wrong. How could you say this.

1087
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: I think. I think Adam Carolla was talking about this

1088
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,119
the other day, how they like Jay Leno or somebody

1089
00:54:50,199 --> 00:54:52,079
did a bit where they went on the streets of

1090
00:54:52,119 --> 00:54:55,000
Burbank and they asked people about certain policies and they

1091
00:54:55,039 --> 00:54:57,440
told them who the president, who the person was behind it,

1092
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,719
and then they started like MF and everything. They just

1093
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,079
said that they agreed with because they don't like the guy.

1094
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:08,199
Speaker 2: No, right, exactly. And but but that was before Trump. Yeah, yeah, right,

1095
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,559
So that's what I'm saying. And the second you say

1096
00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:15,039
one thing about someone and everybody thinks it's about that,

1097
00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:20,559
it's like, I'm not writing a biography. I'm making a point.

1098
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,719
And that was all it was. She was making a point,

1099
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,800
And I do think in the beginning it was WWE style.

1100
00:55:26,679 --> 00:55:28,280
I mean, that's the only thing I can think. Is

1101
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,480
that a fair comparison. You guys are wrestling fans.

1102
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 3: Are gonna do crooked Hillary, see like you'd be in jail.

1103
00:55:36,679 --> 00:55:39,800
I know the system is rigged because I benefit from it.

1104
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:40,400
Speaker 2: I mean nobody.

1105
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,559
Speaker 3: I mean, Dave Chappelle's like.

1106
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,239
Speaker 2: Darryl Yeah, I know it's rigged. Dave Chapelle, he benefit

1107
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,039
from Like we did this thing on the last podcast,

1108
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,000
it was like, uh uh, if you're rich, it's classy.

1109
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,280
If your port's trashy, and it was getting money from

1110
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,800
the government, if you're rich, it's classy. If you're port's

1111
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:02,559
actually right, I mean that's that's what's.

1112
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, like benefit, that's what he's talking about, corporate welfare.

1113
00:56:07,159 --> 00:56:10,280
So I was a great example. There's a stadium big

1114
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,800
built on Abbot Road where the Buffalo Bills are going

1115
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,239
to be playing. How about of that is is corporate welfare?

1116
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: I yes, I don't know on that one, only because

1117
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,840
that money is in the budget for the arts and

1118
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,599
so if it wasn't or entertainment, let's put it that way.

1119
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,960
And if it wasn't going to go to the Bills,

1120
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:33,239
it was going, yeah, let's go for the same thing.

1121
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:37,760
And so my only thing is that because I had

1122
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:39,920
I think I talked about this where I felt like

1123
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,679
I was under pressure at my cousin's house and he's going, hey,

1124
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,280
I about that stadium, and I didn't want to get in.

1125
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:50,480
I'll see this is what everybody says. But hang on

1126
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:53,400
because as Greg Connors told us, right, it was Greg

1127
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:56,239
that said this that and he had done some digging

1128
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,480
on this stuff and said that it's in the budget.

1129
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,440
So if it's not spent here on entertainment or the arts,

1130
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,000
it's going to be spent somewhere else. It is not

1131
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,119
going into some other line in the budget. And how

1132
00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:10,119
many stadius are we funded in New York City as

1133
00:57:10,199 --> 00:57:14,280
New York Tech State tax payers? Oh yeah, Yankee Stadium, Uh,

1134
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:19,800
the City Field? Yeah, so I mean, but I hear you.

1135
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,199
I hear what people are saying.

1136
00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 3: But look, I'm happy the Bills getting the stadium. I

1137
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,480
like my football team, and we all have to admit

1138
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:30,119
when we are like biased towards certain things. Okay, but

1139
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:32,960
you know, on the list of things that New York

1140
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:35,159
needs to pay for, I think the arts are kind

1141
00:57:35,159 --> 00:57:36,559
of down on the list.

1142
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,519
Speaker 4: Couldn't we have just repurposed Rhino Stadium for the new Billity.

1143
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,719
Speaker 3: It's there, that would be the directors the erector sets

1144
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,840
put another level. It's still there.

1145
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still is the Bill Gray still there? No, No,

1146
00:57:50,079 --> 00:57:53,440
there was nobody around. They had made no sense. Let

1147
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,199
me go back to, uh, the Trump thing, because here's

1148
00:57:56,239 --> 00:57:59,760
what I wanted to say, and and my point, you

1149
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,480
can think whatever you want about Trump and still admit

1150
00:58:04,639 --> 00:58:07,440
something that I have said repeatedly, and I think that

1151
00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:10,480
two things can be not right at the same time.

1152
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,639
But you can have I don't like this guy or

1153
00:58:13,639 --> 00:58:16,639
whatever and still go, yeah, but that's kind of true.

1154
00:58:17,239 --> 00:58:20,519
He might be, and I've said this many, many, many times,

1155
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,400
the most effective president ever at using the office as

1156
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,920
a bully pulpit. And that's what the president's he is.

1157
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,840
It's really about being a bully pulpit. Not the nicest,

1158
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,760
not the commest, not the guy you want your mom

1159
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:38,079
uh taken to Thanksgiving dinner if she's divorced or widowed

1160
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,440
that's right, not the guy you want reading to your

1161
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:43,079
kids tonight. But in terms of grabbing attention and bending

1162
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:48,000
the conversation, the guy's different level. Yes, I mean, I'm sorry,

1163
00:58:48,159 --> 00:58:52,079
he just is. And that is where this actually gets

1164
00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:55,639
interesting to me, because when you start thinking about this,

1165
00:58:56,280 --> 00:59:01,159
it isn't about Trump. It's about how we think. And

1166
00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:04,400
that's where I want to say to this guy. His

1167
00:59:04,519 --> 00:59:08,079
name is Tom, and Tom is really cool, writes a lot,

1168
00:59:08,199 --> 00:59:11,280
so I don't want to. But we hear one phrase

1169
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:16,119
like dumb, uneducated white males, and instead of asking what's

1170
00:59:16,159 --> 00:59:19,320
the actual point being made in this conversation, we go

1171
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,039
straight to which sideer do you want? I say, And that,

1172
00:59:23,119 --> 00:59:24,960
to me is the problem. And once you do that,

1173
00:59:25,039 --> 00:59:26,039
the conversation's over.

1174
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,119
Speaker 3: It's now longer, now becomes an ad hominem yea.

1175
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:33,039
Speaker 2: Because now it is just about what sideer you want,

1176
00:59:33,679 --> 00:59:38,360
and it's it's to me, it's jerseys. It's blue and red,

1177
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,159
you know, and what are you wearing? And nobody's listening,

1178
00:59:42,639 --> 00:59:46,679
and that's the problem. Everybody is just waiting to CounterPunch.

1179
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,679
And I don't know where why that is. Is it

1180
00:59:50,719 --> 00:59:54,079
because he has done a great job at putting himself

1181
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:57,880
out there as the victim of so many things, Russia, Russia, Russia, hoax,

1182
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,000
fake news, all this stuff, to the point now where

1183
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:03,679
everybody's going to just defend. But it was like, sometimes

1184
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,840
people are going to say things. They're going to say things,

1185
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,880
they're going to say dumb white males is what I

1186
01:00:09,039 --> 01:00:12,639
liketed him. It's an off the cuff comment in a

1187
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,679
free flowing conversation. But it wasn't the point of the

1188
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:19,760
conversation at all. And that's where I go if we

1189
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,320
could look past the things that maybe just bother us

1190
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,039
a little bit, because we're never going to get rid

1191
01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:25,800
of that it's always going to come at you. What

1192
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:29,239
is the actual point and instead of going to which

1193
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,760
side are you on, go to what's the actual point? Right?

1194
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:36,639
Speaker 3: What she said, Yeah, address the dumb, white educated male's part.

1195
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:40,599
Speaker 2: Well, not that's what he did. We never That wasn't

1196
01:00:40,639 --> 01:00:42,679
the point of the conversation. The point of the conversation

1197
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,039
was that he did this. It's not unexpected. This is

1198
01:00:47,079 --> 01:00:49,239
who he has been all the time. My point is,

1199
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,079
like one of the hottest words in the world right

1200
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:55,639
now is authenticity. Right, be your authentic self. Always be

1201
01:00:55,679 --> 01:00:58,599
your authentic self. Podcasters, this go to your you know,

1202
01:00:58,719 --> 01:01:02,159
when you go to the doctor's would be Okay. I'm

1203
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,199
I'm to the point now where I'm not sure what

1204
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,880
authentic actually means. But if I were going to try

1205
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,159
to define it, it's the guy who never changed for anybody,

1206
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,480
at least while he's been leading the nation. And I

1207
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,320
would like him or not like him. I think he

1208
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:22,880
can see that. I think I don't know, uh.

1209
01:01:23,639 --> 01:01:24,920
Speaker 3: At least you know where he stands.

1210
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know what I'm saying, No, I right,

1211
01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:33,719
but I'm saying, like, okay, not the most presidential thing

1212
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:36,480
tuisia got good? He's dead yeah, that wasn't no, I

1213
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,599
got it. But there's been a lot of not cool things.

1214
01:01:38,599 --> 01:01:41,760
But my point is that he's never done any different.

1215
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:47,840
Aline never done and people been okay with that. Like

1216
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,519
we've come a far away from when, like you know,

1217
01:01:50,599 --> 01:01:53,079
Clinton was getting a blowjob in the office to gravin

1218
01:01:53,119 --> 01:01:56,719
Pussy's this that who knows what's going on in this

1219
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,760
fucking island where I mean, Jesus Christ, people are trying

1220
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,480
to pull themselves away from Epstein, like it's they just

1221
01:02:03,519 --> 01:02:05,280
can't get far and off away. All of a sudden,

1222
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,239
it's like, wow, yeah, I took a plane flight with

1223
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:08,760
the guy, but I didn't talk to him. You know.

1224
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:13,239
It's like, okay, and I took a picture with these

1225
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,800
redacted files. Where are we going? And and it's like

1226
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,159
Trump has these pictures. He's a terrible guy.

1227
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,199
Speaker 3: Who knows right who Chelsea going, Hey, let's all take

1228
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:24,840
a picture literally Chelsea saying.

1229
01:02:24,639 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 2: It, but here's here to me is like the uncomfortable

1230
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,920
truth of what this guy Tom writes. You can insult

1231
01:02:30,039 --> 01:02:34,599
voters on either side and still not understand why they

1232
01:02:34,719 --> 01:02:37,719
voted the way they did. Oh yeah, you cannot under right,

1233
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,239
So we can say that there are people. Who is

1234
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:45,079
everybody who voted for Trump an uneducated white male? Clearly

1235
01:02:45,159 --> 01:02:48,559
not clearly. The answer to that is no. And if

1236
01:02:48,599 --> 01:02:52,519
you don't understand the person's why, you're just yelling and

1237
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:55,119
a void man. And I you know, So the thing

1238
01:02:55,159 --> 01:02:57,239
would be like, if if we wanted to get into it,

1239
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,840
you could ask Laura, who made the comment, why did

1240
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,719
you not vote for him? Or why did you vote

1241
01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:04,639
for the other side, and and she'll have a very

1242
01:03:04,719 --> 01:03:07,559
good answer, or she will have an answer whether or not.

1243
01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:12,400
You whoever the you is, has to decide if it's

1244
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,079
a good enough answer for you. But it certainly was

1245
01:03:14,119 --> 01:03:16,639
a decision for her, just like you made a decision yourself.

1246
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,239
And I don't understand why in a free country you

1247
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:20,400
can't make those decisions.

1248
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,519
Speaker 3: If you excuse to me, you didn't talk about if

1249
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:24,880
you didn't want the Well that's how Trump got elected

1250
01:03:25,039 --> 01:03:26,880
in twenty sixteen. So Nate Silver did the whole thing.

1251
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,960
He goes, I can't figure out Trump. I can't figure

1252
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,559
out I think Hillary's going to win this election. And

1253
01:03:30,599 --> 01:03:33,000
here's why. So everybody went into that election thinking that

1254
01:03:33,079 --> 01:03:35,760
Trump was going to get steamrolled by Hillary, right, and

1255
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,079
he said he ends up putting the election and it

1256
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,199
was stunned. Well, the reason was because the people who

1257
01:03:40,199 --> 01:03:42,639
really wanted to vote for Trump, which didn't want to

1258
01:03:42,639 --> 01:03:44,639
say anything, they didn't want talentybody, yes, because they were

1259
01:03:44,639 --> 01:03:47,280
afraid of being typecast as what Laura said.

1260
01:03:47,239 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, exactly, But that's true what I said about

1261
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,639
kind of just yelling into a void and wanting to

1262
01:03:53,679 --> 01:03:56,519
know a person's why. That's true when you're talking about

1263
01:03:56,599 --> 01:04:02,760
white voters, black voters, Hispanic voters, whatever, anybody, right, And

1264
01:04:03,079 --> 01:04:07,280
people aren't data points, right not. They're making decisions and

1265
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,639
those decisions are influenced by fear, by identity, by hope,

1266
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:14,000
by money, right. I mean there were a lot of

1267
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:15,800
people who I know who had a lot of money.

1268
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,760
You go, I pulled the vote for him because I

1269
01:04:19,199 --> 01:04:21,880
just knew he was going to protect money, right, whatever

1270
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:22,199
it was.

1271
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,119
Speaker 3: Whatever your why is, that's the reason you vote. Everybody

1272
01:04:26,119 --> 01:04:27,840
has their why or why's.

1273
01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,119
Speaker 2: It's yes, and sometimes that's well, it goes back to

1274
01:04:33,159 --> 01:04:37,159
this too, when we've had this conversation, it goes back

1275
01:04:37,199 --> 01:04:40,760
to just sometimes it is somebody who makes you feel

1276
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:45,039
like you're winning, You're on the winning team. And I

1277
01:04:45,159 --> 01:04:49,199
have said about President Trump many times. I said it

1278
01:04:49,639 --> 01:04:52,519
when I was on the radio, I go, if you

1279
01:04:52,639 --> 01:04:57,800
believe in the manifestation of things and talking them into existence,

1280
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,559
I don't think the universe gives a fly. And fuck

1281
01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:02,639
if you're a good person or a bad person. If

1282
01:05:02,679 --> 01:05:05,079
the law of attraction is truly a law like physics

1283
01:05:05,079 --> 01:05:07,840
that some people claim it is, that motherfucker proves it.

1284
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,519
Everything's the biggest, the baddest, and the best. It's the biggest,

1285
01:05:12,599 --> 01:05:14,960
the baddest, in the best. And what has he had?

1286
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,320
Pretty much a life filled with the biggest, the badest,

1287
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,960
the best. And that's all I'm saying. And if you

1288
01:05:20,079 --> 01:05:24,719
reduce all that to their dumb you didn't win the argument, No,

1289
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,360
and you just avoided it is kind of how I

1290
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,639
see it. I don't know, And that is the part

1291
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:35,679
that I kind of actually care about. So the second

1292
01:05:35,679 --> 01:05:39,159
you say, Tom, I'm gonna talk to you right now,

1293
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,039
the data doesn't back you up. In a text that's

1294
01:05:42,119 --> 01:05:47,079
really long, you've officially entered guy who brought spreadsheets to

1295
01:05:47,159 --> 01:05:51,199
a bar fight. That's what you've done to me in

1296
01:05:51,239 --> 01:05:54,280
a way, because you didn't ask, well, why are you

1297
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:57,840
saying that, because clearly that's not true, But why why

1298
01:05:57,880 --> 01:06:00,079
are you saying that? And I didn't ask because I

1299
01:06:00,159 --> 01:06:02,880
wasn't really making that point about whether they were uneducated

1300
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,679
or not. I just thought it was kind of a uh,

1301
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:09,960
off the cuff remark of somebody who's not a fan, right,

1302
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:17,039
and by the way, who does make most of those comments, Like,

1303
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:19,360
out of all of our friends that we know, who

1304
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,199
we go, it's small hands, so right, Yeah, I don't know.

1305
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,519
I don't know. I don't know, So that that's the uh.

1306
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,119
Speaker 3: I wish that, you know, we could go back to

1307
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:31,280
just not telling people what we thought. Yeah, when it

1308
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:34,159
came to politics, like you want the president to be diplomatic,

1309
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,400
why don't you be diplomatic too? I mean, is that

1310
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:36,800
the case?

1311
01:06:37,119 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 2: Well, isn't that what we should be? I don't know,

1312
01:06:39,519 --> 01:06:42,880
because we hear the other side of this too. There's

1313
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,320
it's a very complicated thing for me. And I mean

1314
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,239
that I always sounds really dumb to say that, but

1315
01:06:48,719 --> 01:06:55,639
it's complicated for me. And here's why. Uh. Oftentimes we

1316
01:06:55,800 --> 01:07:01,360
have heard people say, and I will use Sandra Dorley

1317
01:07:02,119 --> 01:07:05,800
as an example, Sandra Dorley had that whole incident that

1318
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,239
was bodycam footage at her house and blah blah blah,

1319
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,519
and she was acting in a way that really upset

1320
01:07:12,559 --> 01:07:15,360
a lot of people. And the big thing I would

1321
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:21,840
hear is they owe us better. They always better they

1322
01:07:22,159 --> 01:07:25,400
or or they should be held to a higher standard.

1323
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:29,000
I heard that. I heard people say it. So if

1324
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:29,960
that's the case for.

1325
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 3: The same standard, I guess that was the argument that

1326
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:35,360
somebody made on this show. If you're going to enforce

1327
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:36,880
the rule, if you could quote the rules.

1328
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:41,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm fine, that's fine. But oftentimes when

1329
01:07:41,679 --> 01:07:45,039
somebody in a political office of a local nature, it's

1330
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:47,760
always that well, they should be held to a higher standard.

1331
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,760
You're the one setting the example, same thing, same thing

1332
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,880
as her. She should you know, by the way, you're

1333
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:58,000
the one that enforces these laws. Right, you're the district attorney,

1334
01:07:58,119 --> 01:08:00,119
So you should hold yourself to a higher st in

1335
01:08:00,199 --> 01:08:01,599
or not do this kind of thing. And that that's

1336
01:08:01,599 --> 01:08:06,960
what I hear. Well, you can say that about the presidency,

1337
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,280
who no matter who's in office, just call it the presidency.

1338
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 3: Do you do that or do you pick and choose

1339
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,280
who you play this game with?

1340
01:08:14,519 --> 01:08:17,520
Speaker 2: Right, And so that's my only thing, and I and

1341
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,119
when he but at the same time, that's who the

1342
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:22,920
guy's been. I mean there are times where I often think,

1343
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,560
I don't know where we're gonna end up, but it

1344
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:32,359
won't be as funny funny. I don't mean to be

1345
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:35,119
down like I'm the uneducated white guy right now. I

1346
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,880
find it funny some of the stuff I just go, well,

1347
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,479
at least I get a laugh out of this, because

1348
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,640
it's fucking ridiculous. I mean, they're just are strange things.

1349
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,880
That whole time, he did the whole where he's mimicking

1350
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,399
the the female weightlifter and the reporter. But the female weightlifter,

1351
01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,399
I think I played it for you. It's like, I mean,

1352
01:08:52,399 --> 01:08:55,880
it's like, who does this? You are the president. There's

1353
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,199
like he's just like, you know what I'm saying. You know,

1354
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,880
like this three years. Let me take it to a

1355
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:06,239
more local level. But even I'll try to make it universal.

1356
01:09:07,319 --> 01:09:12,000
If your kid goes to a private school, well I'll

1357
01:09:12,039 --> 01:09:16,039
give my experience, but Kevin's kids go to Aquinas, another

1358
01:09:16,199 --> 01:09:19,119
very fine institution in our area. But if your kid

1359
01:09:19,159 --> 01:09:21,960
goes to a private school, a lot of times it

1360
01:09:22,039 --> 01:09:24,640
seems to open different doors for them. And I noticed

1361
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,920
it in my own household. One went to private, one

1362
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,119
did not. Sixteen months apart applied for the same jobs.

1363
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:32,520
You had the name of that school on there you

1364
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,359
were getting in. Why, because you're held to a higher

1365
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:40,199
standard when you're in the school, and it's always those

1366
01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:42,000
are the nicest kids, those are the ones that are

1367
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,920
looking in the eye. Shake your hand, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am,

1368
01:09:45,079 --> 01:09:48,119
yes or no, sir, whatever, Right, Okay, that's what the

1369
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:51,520
presidence he used to me as well, And I'm just

1370
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,560
saying it's not And so I get it. You're upset

1371
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,079
that Laura said that, But clearly, why why would you

1372
01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:01,159
care if that he said that? Because we know it's

1373
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:05,000
not true just by looking at what happened. That's all.

1374
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,479
That's all. And in the beginning it might have been

1375
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:11,319
he was like the frat boys were going crazy like

1376
01:10:11,319 --> 01:10:12,239
because it was funny.

1377
01:10:12,319 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 3: But I understand where he's coming from.

1378
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,079
Speaker 2: I totally, we're I know, but my point is to

1379
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,000
understand where he's coming from, but not know the why.

1380
01:10:19,079 --> 01:10:21,039
To me, he's yelling into a void and it's not

1381
01:10:21,399 --> 01:10:23,479
doing anything. And to then give me a bunch of

1382
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,119
data on black voters, Hispanic voter, it makes no sense.

1383
01:10:26,319 --> 01:10:28,560
You're bringing a spreadsheet to what has become a bar

1384
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:32,399
fight simply because it's whose side are you on? And

1385
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,479
it's not the why did you vote for this way?

1386
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:36,439
Or why would you say something like that?

1387
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 3: I get No, I get that, and get that.

1388
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,319
Speaker 2: That's my bigger point with this.

1389
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 3: And when you when you when you message a talk

1390
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,920
show host, you're not just gonna go why did she

1391
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:44,319
think that?

1392
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,159
Speaker 2: No, get back to me. I'm not. But I agree

1393
01:10:47,159 --> 01:10:48,800
with you. I agree with you. I agree because I

1394
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,079
have some thoughts, right, But I agree with you. I

1395
01:10:51,119 --> 01:10:52,680
get it, you know and that and hey man, you

1396
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:53,680
have to make if you have to make your point.

1397
01:10:54,359 --> 01:10:56,920
Let me say the other thing. I appreciate the fact

1398
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:00,359
that this guy listened, yes, took the time to write,

1399
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,600
and and I think will allow me to respond and

1400
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,000
I expect a response from him. He may not agree

1401
01:11:06,039 --> 01:11:09,840
with me, and that's fine. Just keep listening. I love it.

1402
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:10,279
That's all.

1403
01:11:10,319 --> 01:11:11,560
Speaker 3: That's why we have these discussions.

1404
01:11:12,399 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 2: Kevin today, closest to the pin. Were you getting text

1405
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:16,880
messages to No?

1406
01:11:17,119 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 4: Okay, I was just trying to figure some stuff out, all.

1407
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,399
Speaker 2: Right, Kevin has the closest to the pit. We will

1408
01:11:27,399 --> 01:11:29,359
go head to head me and Danny see who can

1409
01:11:29,359 --> 01:11:31,159
get this one. I can't win any of these games,

1410
01:11:31,159 --> 01:11:34,199
So we'll see it's been a while. We'll get to

1411
01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:36,840
that right after this. You never think you're gonna need

1412
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:41,079
a personal injury attorney until you do. It's not something

1413
01:11:41,119 --> 01:11:43,319
you plan for. You know, one minute, you're just living

1414
01:11:43,359 --> 01:11:45,960
your life. Do do next thing? You know you're dealing

1415
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:50,039
with an accident and injury, missed work and a whole

1416
01:11:50,279 --> 01:11:53,119
lot of stress you didn't ask for. And here's the truth.

1417
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,640
Insurance companies they've got a plan. They know exactly what

1418
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:02,319
they're doing. The question is do you. That's why if

1419
01:12:02,319 --> 01:12:05,800
it's me, I'm calling Connors and Ferris. They know the system,

1420
01:12:05,960 --> 01:12:08,720
they know how to fight, and more importantly, they know

1421
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,680
how to take care of people when things get messy.

1422
01:12:12,279 --> 01:12:14,760
You're not just a case file to them. They walk

1423
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,439
you through it step by step and make sure you're

1424
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:21,159
not getting pushed around when you're already down. So if

1425
01:12:21,239 --> 01:12:23,520
life throws you one of those moments, don't try to

1426
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,159
figure it out alone. Call Connors and Ferris or visit

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01:12:27,239 --> 01:12:31,720
Connorsanferris dot com, with offices in New York City, Syracuse, Rochester,

1428
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,000
and Buffalo. Because when it matters most, you want someone

1429
01:12:35,039 --> 01:12:38,640
in your corner who actually knows how to win, Connors

1430
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:57,920
and Ferris, so many things. I got a racings in

1431
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,840
w I had here. Uh. I did want to address this,

1432
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:06,159
even though Kevin had made fun of me. Hey Bill,

1433
01:13:06,239 --> 01:13:10,359
listen to your podcast. You were talking about James James

1434
01:13:10,399 --> 01:13:15,119
Dean's Porsche or Porsche, and I said, if they could,

1435
01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:17,760
where did it go after he went over the cliff?

1436
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,960
It's not still there. Somebody's got it. And I go

1437
01:13:21,079 --> 01:13:24,399
that thing would be worth millions of dollars, but nobody

1438
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:27,399
knows where it is, and you just take it even

1439
01:13:27,399 --> 01:13:29,560
to grumble up. Somebody's gonna pay.

1440
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 4: Does Lou have it?

1441
01:13:32,119 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: I'll never know because I was not allowed to go

1442
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,039
to the garage. He wouldn't tell me where it was.

1443
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,159
It he was afraid I was gonna say it, like

1444
01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:41,159
he doesn't want people to know where his garage is

1445
01:13:41,159 --> 01:13:44,119
in the city. Well, I don't blame him. Like, but

1446
01:13:44,159 --> 01:13:47,439
this person says the urban legend I had never heard

1447
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:50,039
of this is that the car was parted out for

1448
01:13:50,399 --> 01:13:53,439
the racing parts, and the people that installed them on

1449
01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:56,960
their cars died or wrecked in their so to fucking

1450
01:13:57,359 --> 01:14:03,119
yes car. This I'm saying, cursed car Yes died erecked

1451
01:14:03,119 --> 01:14:05,680
in their race cars. I just watched the show. Oh,

1452
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:10,039
Dale Earnhardt and the Transactional ended up in Connecticut. A

1453
01:14:10,039 --> 01:14:13,840
little bit of information from the car nerd. Yeah, that

1454
01:14:14,039 --> 01:14:16,960
is I love that I did not know. There you go.

1455
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:18,680
Here's the other question I had.

1456
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,039
Speaker 4: Race and Randy is still the catalytic converter.

1457
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 2: Race and Randy I feel bad? Have you talked to him?

1458
01:14:25,279 --> 01:14:26,319
Speaker 3: I talked to him a couple weeks ago.

1459
01:14:27,079 --> 01:14:29,279
Speaker 2: There's no bad, so I said. I talked a couple

1460
01:14:29,319 --> 01:14:29,680
of weeks.

1461
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:31,600
Speaker 3: Ago because I wanted to get his take for the

1462
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:36,159
Times on Michael Jordan's team winning the first three races.

1463
01:14:36,159 --> 01:14:38,800
And he's he's he's gone conspiratorial on the whole thing.

1464
01:14:39,039 --> 01:14:43,199
Speaker 2: Yes, Terrrist Rutgerd just announced he's now part owner Jimmy

1465
01:14:43,239 --> 01:14:44,159
Johnson's team.

1466
01:14:44,399 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 4: Oh there's two brothers in NASCAR now.

1467
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,119
Speaker 3: So well three if you cut Bubba Wallace.

1468
01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bubba Wallace is the driver.

1469
01:14:50,279 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 3: But like like Tyler Redicks won for the of the

1470
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,640
first five races, and Randy thing, this guy, this guy

1471
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:56,920
wasn't a big double four. All of sudden hes went

1472
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:57,560
all these races.

1473
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:58,399
Speaker 2: How this happened?

1474
01:14:59,319 --> 01:15:01,039
Speaker 3: What was at that court case? I think they're letting them.

1475
01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:03,199
So Randy's starting to think his own sport is rigged.

1476
01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:05,920
Now that's the latest from uh from Newark.

1477
01:15:06,359 --> 01:15:09,319
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well, I'm sure he is.

1478
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 4: I just I have not Oh, for the love of Christ,

1479
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,039
let the goddamn le go.

1480
01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 2: All right. I'm sorry. It's just that, you know, I'm

1481
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,680
just trying to look over this way, Danny there you go.

1482
01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:25,279
Uh No, I don't know. I I get once why

1483
01:15:25,239 --> 01:15:27,119
I called him one day and goes everybody. We just

1484
01:15:27,119 --> 01:15:29,000
haven't talked a while, and I feel bad, and I

1485
01:15:29,039 --> 01:15:31,119
haven't had him on the podcast, and I think that

1486
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,439
he's feeling a little neglected, is all. And I really

1487
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,000
like I really like Randy, and that's uh. And he

1488
01:15:38,119 --> 01:15:39,960
is a great guy. I have a question for Dan,

1489
01:15:40,039 --> 01:15:41,600
and I may be stepping into something here, but I

1490
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:43,920
even I ask you this, no, no, no, no no. When

1491
01:15:44,039 --> 01:15:46,159
we when I read the Tom thing at the end

1492
01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:49,439
of it, you said, but I know what he means.

1493
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:53,920
And I'm going to ask you this why.

1494
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 3: Because I think a lot of Trump voters have been typecasts.

1495
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:58,520
So he heard the type cast part well, instead of

1496
01:15:58,560 --> 01:15:59,960
the context of the conversation.

1497
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:05,119
Speaker 2: My question would be so calling them ignorant, white or

1498
01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:09,159
uneducated white men you feel as a reflection on you.

1499
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's a reflection on me. Do

1500
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:12,159
you know if I voted for Trump or not?

1501
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 2: No, Well, I don't know, you're no.

1502
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,039
Speaker 3: No, I understand where he's come from, because would you

1503
01:16:17,079 --> 01:16:18,680
feel like I think there are a lot of men

1504
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,720
in this country who are let's just put it this way,

1505
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:25,479
white heterosexual men who now feel like they've become maligned

1506
01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,520
by certain media groups and groups in general just for

1507
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,560
being who they are. Their opinion is just as valid

1508
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,880
as everybody else. But in order to you know, it

1509
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:39,920
was a great tactic during the twenty twenty election of

1510
01:16:40,399 --> 01:16:43,039
one side smear like notly just take you what Trump did,

1511
01:16:43,079 --> 01:16:45,960
but also inventing things that Trump didn't do, and then

1512
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,680
smearing him with all these names and things. And then

1513
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,680
he's like even Hillary said a basket of deplorables. So

1514
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,920
they've been at this game since twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

1515
01:16:57,359 --> 01:16:59,960
So I understand where he's coming from. If he voted for.

1516
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 2: No, I got it. I got it. About what I'm

1517
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,479
saying is here's okay, I got it, But the basket

1518
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:11,039
is de plorable stuff. I mean, I would think most

1519
01:17:11,119 --> 01:17:14,399
people would see the behavior and hear the stuff and go,

1520
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:18,119
I don't want this guy, but we are where we are.

1521
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,399
My only thing when somebody says that because I am

1522
01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,479
I don't know if you know this, I'm a middle

1523
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,840
aged white man of the age that people complain about

1524
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:34,000
and stuff me too, And I don't have any feeling

1525
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:38,359
about it whatsoever. And I don't know why. I understand

1526
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,319
their anger and upsetment. I take it as anger and upsetment.

1527
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,760
I hear it, and I think, I don't know. I

1528
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,239
didn't choose it. I didn't choose to be a white guy.

1529
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,239
I didn't. I don't think that I'm conscious of. I

1530
01:17:52,279 --> 01:17:54,039
didn't choose to be white guy. Didn't choose to be

1531
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,840
the son of people who went to college and got masters.

1532
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:00,600
I didn't choose that. I don't believe chose that. There

1533
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,079
are people who tell you, well, you made a contract, Okay,

1534
01:18:03,319 --> 01:18:05,319
Well I don't remember any of that if that's the case.

1535
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:09,439
So when I hear that, I just kind of go,

1536
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,479
it's painting with a broadbrush, because I could turn around

1537
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:13,920
and say the same thing about somebody else. But what

1538
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,760
is that gonna do? Like I could say that about

1539
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:17,840
that whatever group the other person is so.

1540
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,600
Speaker 3: Nobody's got their nerves and he probably felt like someone

1541
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:21,439
stepped on a nerve.

1542
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 2: No, I get it, But I'm wondering, like I often

1543
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,720
question Dan, And I mean, this, is there something wrong

1544
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:32,079
with me? Because I don't get bothered by those types

1545
01:18:32,119 --> 01:18:34,680
of things, Because I could turn around and say from

1546
01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,840
the person who did it, I could all of a

1547
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:38,720
sudden get down in the mud and go, well, you

1548
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,880
guys are all blah blah blah everyone who represents you,

1549
01:18:42,199 --> 01:18:45,000
and I just don't care because it's a waste of

1550
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:49,600
my fucking time. But then I start to go, is

1551
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,760
there something And I mean this, I'm not even kidding,

1552
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,800
when is there something wrong with me that I don't

1553
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,399
get upset? And I just go, who gives a shit?

1554
01:18:57,479 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 3: I don't think anything's wrong with you. I think you

1555
01:18:59,079 --> 01:19:01,239
look at things different. I think you major. There's this

1556
01:19:01,319 --> 01:19:03,960
thing called majoring on the miners. And I think we

1557
01:19:04,079 --> 01:19:07,720
in America we have it so flip and good that

1558
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:10,000
we have the luxury to major on the miners and

1559
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:14,920
cavetch and wine and cry and complain about opinions. We

1560
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:18,720
live at the top of Mavlov's hierarchy of needs, so

1561
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:21,279
we have this luxury to whine, and now we could

1562
01:19:21,279 --> 01:19:24,399
do it online where it sits forever. At could plain

1563
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:26,760
and be heard not and every time we're heard, we

1564
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,960
get a dopamine hit, and then we have to keep

1565
01:19:29,079 --> 01:19:31,359
raising it right, And that's all it is. You're like,

1566
01:19:31,399 --> 01:19:33,640
I got my own problems. Well, I think there are

1567
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,560
some things you could pay better attention to, but that's

1568
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,279
but you got other issues that I don't have.

1569
01:19:37,399 --> 01:19:43,079
Speaker 2: Hang on a second, what no, I mean, I'm I'm

1570
01:19:43,079 --> 01:19:45,039
teasing you. But what I was going to say is

1571
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,079
it's not that I don't hear and see it and

1572
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:53,399
understand it. And also I can sort of go, I

1573
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,800
see where you're coming from and your point, and I

1574
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:58,319
know why you say this sort of thing, and I

1575
01:19:58,359 --> 01:20:00,520
can also see why people get pissed off about this.

1576
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,680
But to me, it's like, it's not about the group,

1577
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,119
it's about individuals. If we're really going to talk right,

1578
01:20:09,199 --> 01:20:12,079
the dog in this country, so we paint with a

1579
01:20:12,119 --> 01:20:15,720
broad brush like all whatever is this and all whatever

1580
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,119
is that, and it's not. It's just not. You know,

1581
01:20:19,279 --> 01:20:22,640
I couldn't say like all white people are the same,

1582
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:24,920
they're not. So well, we could say that about any

1583
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,039
and we should say that about any ethnic group or

1584
01:20:27,079 --> 01:20:32,159
any any minority oppressed feeling group at all, they're not.

1585
01:20:32,039 --> 01:20:34,520
And not everybody's the same, Not everybody agrees with that.

1586
01:20:34,680 --> 01:20:36,359
So when I hear that, I just go, all right,

1587
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:38,520
maybe you're talking about being maybe you're not, but I

1588
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:42,039
don't even give two fucks to care enough to burn it.

1589
01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:45,880
I'll listen to you, I'll hear you. Okay, Yeah, I

1590
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:48,039
guess I'm part of the problem, but but I don't

1591
01:20:48,039 --> 01:20:49,640
take it that way. It's I'm part of the problem

1592
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,600
because just like the people that say to me when

1593
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,960
when they get upset and they hear different things about

1594
01:20:55,039 --> 01:20:58,560
you know, slavery and oppression, I didn't do it, well, no,

1595
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,000
but it was people that looked like that did and

1596
01:21:01,119 --> 01:21:03,079
got us sort of to the point where we are

1597
01:21:03,119 --> 01:21:07,399
today in essence, in essence, and I go, but you're right,

1598
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,239
you didn't do it. And just like these people, I

1599
01:21:09,239 --> 01:21:09,680
didn't do it.

1600
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,159
Speaker 3: But if you go back further than that, there are

1601
01:21:12,199 --> 01:21:14,720
white people who had endured the same thing. There's nothing

1602
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,720
knowing in the sun you. But my point is I'm

1603
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:19,119
with you, like I just I don't get into that stuff.

1604
01:21:19,159 --> 01:21:22,479
Like I love my mother dearly, she's getting up in age.

1605
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:25,560
I want to call her more often. You and you

1606
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:28,600
want know why, Yeah, because her, her husband, my stepdad

1607
01:21:29,159 --> 01:21:31,039
in the background, has to jump on the conversation and

1608
01:21:31,079 --> 01:21:32,640
make it a political discussion. Well I just want to

1609
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:33,680
talk about how she's doing.

1610
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't.

1611
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:39,039
Speaker 3: She does. She has to put it out speakers so

1612
01:21:39,119 --> 01:21:40,239
the whole roope can hear it.

1613
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,239
Speaker 2: She's one of those all right now. But but but

1614
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:44,319
what's your.

1615
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:46,399
Speaker 3: Point though, is like I, yeah, I try to be

1616
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:51,359
above all that too, because Twitter, like Twitter basically governs

1617
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:53,800
the media really because they look at it because they're

1618
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:55,720
all on Twitter. But Twitter is only like a fraction

1619
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,319
of a fraction of percentage of the American public. So

1620
01:21:58,359 --> 01:22:00,359
we can't let the tails wag the dog. But that's

1621
01:22:00,359 --> 01:22:02,600
what social media is. And we're all the strings of

1622
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,800
the end of the strings of those puppet masters. You

1623
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,359
gotta cut the strings, let it go. Well, remember when

1624
01:22:07,359 --> 01:22:09,399
we were your battles, wisely, but.

1625
01:22:09,399 --> 01:22:11,520
Speaker 2: Remember when we were even in radio, and there would

1626
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,840
be all this shit and I just see like, yeah, whatever, all.

1627
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, and you wait until the most opportune time

1628
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:21,439
to address something. But for the most part, we try

1629
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:22,960
to stay above it because there's no point.

1630
01:22:23,079 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 2: No. But my thing was like even the meetings is

1631
01:22:25,039 --> 01:22:26,920
of when people would rip on the guy who was

1632
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:29,079
doing it and they'd mimic him. They do all this shit,

1633
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,039
and I saw what they were doing. I got why

1634
01:22:32,079 --> 01:22:34,319
they did it, but I felt like there were some

1635
01:22:34,359 --> 01:22:36,640
real values. So I would just sit there, take what

1636
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,800
I thought was valuable, and walk away and not give

1637
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,319
a shit, right because I just didn't. I didn't care.

1638
01:22:41,399 --> 01:22:44,079
And that's how I've been pretty much my entire life.

1639
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,079
Is I see it, I understand it. I totally get it.

1640
01:22:47,159 --> 01:22:49,239
I see what you guys are getting bothered by. I

1641
01:22:49,239 --> 01:22:52,239
see what you're making fun of. But there's value. Here's

1642
01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:52,880
how I'm going to take it.

1643
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 3: But the thing is, though, is that where Tom might

1644
01:22:55,039 --> 01:22:57,319
be coming from and what he heard, he probably has

1645
01:22:57,319 --> 01:22:58,920
a little bit of rabbit ears because of what he

1646
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,680
heard from last air. But here's the thing, though, when

1647
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,880
a certain group wants to attack another group, they want

1648
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,920
to humanize them. You do that one step at a time,

1649
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:09,000
and then by calling them like uneducated white man, now

1650
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:12,039
you're categorizing a group of people to take it to

1651
01:23:12,119 --> 01:23:15,199
chip away at them, So now they're an easier target.

1652
01:23:15,319 --> 01:23:17,720
Every time you say that, it becomes easier to look

1653
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,560
on them. Then it becomes accepting.

1654
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,119
Speaker 2: No, this becomes my bigger thing. This is where I go.

1655
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,359
Fucking get a self esteem. No, I agree with you,

1656
01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,000
white man, get some fucking self esteem. Do you think

1657
01:23:29,039 --> 01:23:31,800
they're talking about you? Because if you're an uneducated white man,

1658
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,960
maybe they are. Maybe they are, and then you got

1659
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,680
a right to be pissed. But if you're not an

1660
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:38,279
uneducated worry about it. And you went and who gives

1661
01:23:38,279 --> 01:23:40,319
a shit? Don't worry about I don't give a fuck.

1662
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:43,840
And so that that's where I go. But that comes

1663
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,079
back to a self esteem issue, and that's the thing

1664
01:23:46,079 --> 01:23:47,640
that we talk about all all the time. And to me,

1665
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:49,920
that's the biggest problem. It's the biggest problem with kids,

1666
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:53,880
because everybody, how did fucking Hitler get into power. You

1667
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,600
got a country that was defeated in a war, and

1668
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,720
young embarrassed and embarrassed, right, and young men that were

1669
01:24:00,039 --> 01:24:01,439
looking for a leader.

1670
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 3: And there's a vacuum in nature hates vacuating.

1671
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 2: And watch the manosphere on Netflix. Watch all the hell

1672
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,760
these got because people were looking for a leader. They're

1673
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,199
lost out there. Why because they don't have anything inside?

1674
01:24:12,199 --> 01:24:14,079
And no one showed them how to find their own

1675
01:24:14,119 --> 01:24:17,439
fucking value. You are worthy, you are this, You're not

1676
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,079
that guy. So who gives a shit what they say?

1677
01:24:20,119 --> 01:24:22,800
If they're that fucking powerful, are they? Are they in

1678
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,159
your home? Are they sharing Thanksgiving with you? Who gives

1679
01:24:25,159 --> 01:24:25,479
a fuck?

1680
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:28,319
Speaker 3: Yeah? There's there's an episode of Uh Sopranos where it's

1681
01:24:28,319 --> 01:24:30,880
Columbus Day and they're all pissed off that the Native

1682
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,359
Americans are protesting Columbus, Right, and then Tony finally goes,

1683
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,399
He goes, we're happening to our self esteem. He goes,

1684
01:24:37,439 --> 01:24:39,640
did you get anything in your life because you're Italian? No,

1685
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,640
because you have brains, because you have balls, because you're smart,

1686
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:43,840
not because you're Italian?

1687
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,680
Speaker 2: Right, He goes, who cares? Right? And that's kind of

1688
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,920
my point with it. That's all all right, Sorry you

1689
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:53,159
asked no, No, no, I did, No, I did. I was

1690
01:24:53,159 --> 01:24:55,079
saying sorry to Kevin because he's got the game and

1691
01:24:55,119 --> 01:24:57,680
we got to go. But the lighting. Kevin looks so

1692
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,600
good in that lighting you do. That's great lighting.

1693
01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:04,520
Speaker 4: Huh, it's gonna lit myself. Don't give a fuck about

1694
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:05,039
you people.

1695
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:09,600
Speaker 2: It might be true, I don't know. Closest to the pin.

1696
01:25:10,119 --> 01:25:13,960
All right, with the new MLB season about to kick off,

1697
01:25:14,640 --> 01:25:18,760
you're gonna win their third straight World Series title. What

1698
01:25:19,159 --> 01:25:26,680
year was the first MLB game played outside the United States? Oh?

1699
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,079
What year was it first played outside the Wait? Major

1700
01:25:30,159 --> 01:25:30,960
League Baseball?

1701
01:25:31,039 --> 01:25:32,199
Speaker 4: Major League Baseball?

1702
01:25:32,399 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 2: Okay, the regular season or spring training? Major League Baseball,

1703
01:25:37,159 --> 01:25:39,439
don't care about spring training. Didn't say spring training?

1704
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,520
Speaker 3: It's okay, regular season game.

1705
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 2: Outside the United States. Outside of the United States? Yeah, okay,

1706
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:54,800
Well what year? Oh god, I don't know I'm saying

1707
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:58,039
this year, and I don't think I'm that far off,

1708
01:25:58,079 --> 01:25:58,720
but go ahead.

1709
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,279
Speaker 4: Who among us does not like a nice rack?

1710
01:26:02,399 --> 01:26:07,760
Speaker 2: What year was the first breast augmentation using silicone implants? Okay,

1711
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:12,439
so they used to be like. I remember watching the

1712
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:16,640
CEO of a big company get buzzed and start talking

1713
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,800
about the first time he felt fake tits and they

1714
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,119
felt like cement, And I go, oh, my god, she

1715
01:26:21,159 --> 01:26:23,760
must have been like a pigeon and or no, like

1716
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,279
a statue. And I remember one of my other bosses

1717
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:29,720
giving me a look, and I goes, that's exactly what

1718
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:31,640
it was, like. I go, well, she stood there long enough,

1719
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,560
pigeons was coming shit on her. He was so drunk.

1720
01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:35,680
He fucking laughed forever and loved me. But they were

1721
01:26:35,680 --> 01:26:38,560
getting really uncomfortable because I said that. So the first

1722
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:47,000
silicone implants got a year dandy, I think so Silicone Valley,

1723
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:57,479
Silicon Valley. Oh, I hate this. I've been right down

1724
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,279
the year. I want to change it so bad, but

1725
01:27:00,359 --> 01:27:04,920
I'm gonna to write in parenthesees is. John Hyatt moved

1726
01:27:05,039 --> 01:27:07,840
to Nashville, Tennessee at the age of eighteen, taking a

1727
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:11,479
job as a songwriter for a Tree Music publishing company.

1728
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:26,840
How much was he paid per week?

1729
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,000
Speaker 4: Math over there, No, I'm taking a tax on what

1730
01:27:32,039 --> 01:27:32,319
you're doing.

1731
01:27:32,399 --> 01:27:35,560
Speaker 2: I'm keeping I'm putting like my original thought, like my

1732
01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:38,319
knee jerk response, and putting in parentheses, and then I'm

1733
01:27:38,319 --> 01:27:40,159
writing the other one down, just to see if I

1734
01:27:40,199 --> 01:27:42,279
can get it, if I can get it right, All right,

1735
01:27:42,359 --> 01:27:44,760
go on. Tom Arnold is playing the Kevin Media Room

1736
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,239
this weekend at Comedy to Carlson and was famously married

1737
01:27:47,279 --> 01:27:51,359
to Roseanne bar for four years. How many episodes of

1738
01:27:51,399 --> 01:27:54,119
the television show Roseanne were made?

1739
01:27:55,680 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 3: Wait a minute with him or without him?

1740
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 4: Just the episode of just Television shown?

1741
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:01,359
Speaker 3: Are we talking about?

1742
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,039
Speaker 2: Okay, we're talking about Roseanne. Were you a fan?

1743
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,359
Speaker 3: I watched it. I wasn't a fan, but I watched

1744
01:28:06,399 --> 01:28:09,279
it to watch. But it's the show stopped and then

1745
01:28:09,319 --> 01:28:10,439
they rebooted it again.

1746
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't called Roseanne when they rebooted, No, it was.

1747
01:28:14,199 --> 01:28:15,359
Speaker 4: It wasn't. It's called the Connors.

1748
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 3: The Connors came after she got fired for making a

1749
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,600
comment about.

1750
01:28:20,399 --> 01:28:23,560
Speaker 2: Did they ever Oh she did die, they did, but no, no, no,

1751
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:24,279
Dan died.

1752
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 3: Dan died on the show, and then they killed her

1753
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,560
off when they rebooted the show, and then they called

1754
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:32,000
it the Connors. So there was a Roseanne, then there

1755
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,000
was a Roseanne reboot, and then they'd rename it the

1756
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,479
Connors because they had to kill her off.

1757
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm trying to remember if she that Actually okay,

1758
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,760
they did air. Those episodes did hit the air. Oh

1759
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:58,479
oh yeah, okay, all right, math here, God damn it.

1760
01:28:59,039 --> 01:29:00,560
I don't even know how many years the show was on.

1761
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:03,079
Speaker 3: They acted like the last season never happened.

1762
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:10,119
Speaker 2: I never watched. I don't know why it.

1763
01:29:10,119 --> 01:29:11,600
Speaker 3: Was on Tuesday nights at nine.

1764
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,680
Speaker 2: And that's why Tuesdays nights at nine, I think I

1765
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,359
was in college Tuesday night.

1766
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:22,399
Speaker 3: Who's the Boss was on a day A right, I

1767
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:22,680
got it.

1768
01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:27,119
Speaker 2: Go ahead. When the Museum of Modern Art opened to

1769
01:29:27,199 --> 01:29:30,640
New York City in nineteen twenty nine, how many pieces

1770
01:29:31,279 --> 01:29:37,840
were displayed in the inaugural exhibition? How many pieces in

1771
01:29:38,119 --> 01:29:40,039
nineteen twenty nine? How many pieces of art were in

1772
01:29:40,079 --> 01:29:42,600
the inaugural display at the Museum of Modern Art in

1773
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:52,960
nineteen twenty nine when it opened. Okay, and last, but

1774
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:58,279
not least, how many members are currently in the United Nations? O.

1775
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's gonna be one less after I've done. Dude,

1776
01:30:05,279 --> 01:30:07,279
they will see how powerful you people are.

1777
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 2: Um, I'm an uneducated Wigan. Uh you win. Currently.

1778
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,159
Speaker 3: It's kind of like that time when Sammie Watkins was

1779
01:30:23,239 --> 01:30:25,359
ripping on certain bills fans who ripped on him? Yes,

1780
01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:27,600
And I'm like, are you what he's talking about? No,

1781
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,279
he's talking about Heckler's.

1782
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,760
Speaker 2: All right, so what do we Okay, so we'll go

1783
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:32,399
back to the back at the top, which, by the way,

1784
01:30:32,399 --> 01:30:36,880
he wasn't trunk. Was the first MLB game played outside

1785
01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:38,319
the United States?

1786
01:30:38,359 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 3: I want to say seventy six because Toronto.

1787
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:43,680
Speaker 2: All right. I couldn't remember when Toronto. No, I was

1788
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,840
trying to remember when the Montreal expos came into existence?

1789
01:30:48,079 --> 01:30:49,359
Were they before or after?

1790
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:50,399
Speaker 3: You're the same year?

1791
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 2: They were the same year? I you, seventy six does

1792
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:57,520
not sound like a bad gas, I said, nineteen sixty three.

1793
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:00,119
Blue Jays came into existence in the seventy seven, But

1794
01:31:00,159 --> 01:31:04,119
it's nineteen sixty nine with the Montreal exposed sixty nine. Okay,

1795
01:31:04,159 --> 01:31:06,720
all right, so I'm off by six there.

1796
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 3: Off by seven.

1797
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:13,520
Speaker 2: Can't We're close? What year was the first breast augmentation

1798
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,159
using silicone implants performed?

1799
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 3: I said nineteen seventy six.

1800
01:31:18,199 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 2: I said nineteen seventy one. It is nineteen sixty two. Ooh, aight, okay.

1801
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:31,880
How much did John Hyatt make writing songs at Tree

1802
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,520
Music Publishing Company? All right, my original guest was eighteen

1803
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:36,079
dollars a week?

1804
01:31:36,119 --> 01:31:37,399
Speaker 3: Now I was twenty five dollars a week.

1805
01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 2: I wrote twenty three.

1806
01:31:39,159 --> 01:31:41,279
Speaker 4: It is twenty five dollars a week.

1807
01:31:41,399 --> 01:31:42,319
Speaker 2: Wow, Damny?

1808
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 3: Sorry?

1809
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 2: How many seasons of Roseanne? Let me take that back.

1810
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,239
Speaker 4: How many episodes of Roseanne were made?

1811
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 3: I said to sixty. But I'm wondering if we're gonna

1812
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:56,000
have to have a flag on this one.

1813
01:31:56,319 --> 01:31:59,079
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't even know how long the

1814
01:31:59,119 --> 01:32:01,279
show ran. I said one hundred and forty six.

1815
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 4: It's two hundred and thirty running over ten.

1816
01:32:04,279 --> 01:32:06,960
Speaker 2: I just lost right there because I lost it.

1817
01:32:07,159 --> 01:32:08,760
Speaker 3: It was ten seasons. I had nine.

1818
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even remember. I remember people loving it.

1819
01:32:12,239 --> 01:32:13,600
I just I never watched it.

1820
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:16,399
Speaker 3: Well, it embraced it embraced the idea of that lower

1821
01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:17,439
Miles family.

1822
01:32:18,399 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 2: What's that on educated white people? I don't know, trum Trump,

1823
01:32:23,119 --> 01:32:26,119
I don't know. I just I just it was on when.

1824
01:32:26,039 --> 01:32:28,159
Speaker 3: She brought the show back, she talked about how they

1825
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:29,520
would be Trump voters and today.

1826
01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 2: All right, so I think I lost right. How many

1827
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,680
pieces in the inaugural display it the museum? Amount of art?

1828
01:32:36,680 --> 01:32:39,119
Speaker 4: Would it opened in nineteen twenty nine?

1829
01:32:39,359 --> 01:32:40,600
Speaker 2: What did you say, Daniel?

1830
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:41,159
Speaker 3: I said eight?

1831
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 2: Oh, that's probably better, guess I said, twenty six? It

1832
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:48,640
is ninety? Oh oh wow, okay, all right, it did

1833
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:53,079
start with eight. The museum was originally owned eight pieces

1834
01:32:53,079 --> 01:32:57,600
in one dry, eight paintings in one dry. So Dan,

1835
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:58,720
what did you say? Nine?

1836
01:32:58,880 --> 01:32:59,520
Speaker 3: I said eight?

1837
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,560
Speaker 2: Oh, Well the display was display all.

1838
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 3: Right, So it's the answer is ninety right, yeah, okay.

1839
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 2: But how many members are currently in the United Nations? Eleven?

1840
01:33:14,439 --> 01:33:18,079
In the I asked come back. You have no idea.

1841
01:33:18,359 --> 01:33:19,840
I have absolutely no clue.

1842
01:33:20,239 --> 01:33:23,119
Speaker 3: Number down I did, but I have only so many countries, Billy, No,

1843
01:33:23,199 --> 01:33:24,840
I know there's so they were going to create a

1844
01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:26,279
new one in I ran all right.

1845
01:33:26,159 --> 01:33:28,199
Speaker 2: But I went I went like, well, it's going to

1846
01:33:28,239 --> 01:33:31,000
be awest the United States. I said, thirty six.

1847
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 4: You just got your ass kicked one hundred and ninety three.

1848
01:33:34,359 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 3: Right there, you go, I win again. Well, I batter Danny.

1849
01:33:40,079 --> 01:33:42,600
Speaker 2: No, I that wasn't real. But I knew I was

1850
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:45,760
losing anyway, because I couldn't come back from the Roseanne one.

1851
01:33:46,039 --> 01:33:49,800
There was no way. No, I don't think so, because

1852
01:33:49,800 --> 01:33:51,960
I was already like, you could have ninety. You could

1853
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,680
have hit the pin on the on the last two. Uh,

1854
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:57,079
what was the second to last one?

1855
01:33:57,239 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 4: The ninety for the museum, I would have no idea

1856
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:00,000
that one.

1857
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 2: I would have no idea. On the Modern or nineteen

1858
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,680
twenty nine when it opened up, I would have no idea.

1859
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,000
And then better and then the other I was. I

1860
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,199
actually wrote down one hundred and twelve. I just said

1861
01:34:10,199 --> 01:34:13,199
thirty six because I figured I'm gonna fuck I lose anyway.

1862
01:34:13,479 --> 01:34:15,479
And if Dandy says one hundred and whatever, I'll go

1863
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,960
to the opposite then maybe maybe because these things go

1864
01:34:19,079 --> 01:34:20,800
and I'm a non educated white guy, what am I

1865
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:24,760
gonna do? That's it? All right? Well, Danny nice win,

1866
01:34:25,359 --> 01:34:27,600
very good. I got it. Before you leave. I want

1867
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,199
to try something with the light before you leave. We

1868
01:34:30,239 --> 01:34:32,399
don't have to do it right now. That's all for

1869
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:36,840
Kevin Mule. Another good game, Kevin. I enjoy those. I

1870
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:37,880
actually miss closest.

1871
01:34:39,359 --> 01:34:42,640
Speaker 3: I know you're right, miss what you do.

1872
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 2: At the courthouse, Well, then go do it.

1873
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm working on it. We got revamped. We

1874
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:50,199
got a couple of new stuff.

1875
01:34:49,960 --> 01:34:58,159
Speaker 2: Though new questions. Yeah, okay, all right, I'll work no bills.

1876
01:34:58,479 --> 01:35:00,039
Speaker 3: I just went and executed it.

1877
01:35:00,039 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 2: It I did it. Sometimes. Let let let don't let

1878
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:06,399
you out here get some questions about twenty twenty eight

1879
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:09,800
when he has twenty minutes of free time. That's not true.

1880
01:35:10,079 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna run a group on it next week.

1881
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,640
Speaker 2: I think I still have do what's doing in group?

1882
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 4: What's doing in group therapy?

1883
01:35:16,119 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 3: Oh, I'll even group on You should do that. What's

1884
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,159
doing a group therapy? That'd be great. You guess what

1885
01:35:24,279 --> 01:35:25,079
disease do you have?

1886
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,159
Speaker 2: I now I regret telling that story like I was

1887
01:35:29,159 --> 01:35:31,319
a douche. Do you love it? Yeah?

1888
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:34,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a mental health Catholic supposed to be confidentible.

1889
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,159
Speaker 2: I didn't talk about anybody. I talked about a group

1890
01:35:38,159 --> 01:35:40,119
that I led in the in the theme of it, but

1891
01:35:40,159 --> 01:35:40,680
I didn't.

1892
01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 4: Talk we want to play what you do in a

1893
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:42,520
group therapy?

1894
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 2: I didn't even I didn't even see what you're here for?

1895
01:35:47,359 --> 01:35:52,960
What's cut you down? All right? All right? For Dan?

1896
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,039
How do the Yankees do it? Uh?

1897
01:35:55,079 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 3: It's no score. They just started. There was a there's

1898
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:58,199
a rain delay.

1899
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,239
Speaker 2: Okay, where're you going? Because play baseball?

1900
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 3: Marco San Francisco.

1901
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 2: I know, but it's on Prime Netflix. It's on Netflix

1902
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:12,319
to Netflix tonight. Okay for Dan BURRELLO. For Kevin Mueller,

1903
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:16,479
I'm Bill Moran. See you next name. It must the

1904
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,960
bean that doesn't know the workings. It wasn't wanting