Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons, throwing some ice,
mixing some vodkas. Colored a podcast from the Mac of
All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler
Dots jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Hello and welcome, Thanks for getting your poduct thanks for
telling a friend and that's how he spread the word
about the pirates. Oh got him. I frustrated, Get a hug. No,
I don't know what I need.
Speaker 3: Do your chasmosaze, I don't know. I evaporated milk.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I need. And it makes me
think more admirable Dennis, I do that maybe, Moredo. Oh god,
I do love that stuff and I people get mad
at me. Not mad at me, that's not fair. But
people have said sent me messages and things like your
your when when I always first talking about it like
it's the greatest thing ever, Like you can't do that.
It's bad, not not don't take it, but don't talk
about it so much. It is altering the the the
chemistry of your brain. It is a tool. Clearly, I'm
add I'm able to accomplish more than I've ever been
able to accomplish and actually kind of keep things on
the path. I apologize to you guys, because first of all,
what I wanted to say and open up here was
thank you to Dan and Kevin for your patients and
your kindness and being part of this.
Speaker 3: You like the cal Ripkin of apology shows. Christ You's like,
apologize to me before every show we've done for two
years now.
Speaker 2: Only because I know that you're taking time out. You're
here and I had It's just a frustrating thing. It's
it's no big deal, but I I'm gonna mention it
and will probably come to blow back on me because
I'm I'm frustrated. I'm just frustrated. I have a tutor
for my son, and I said to him, I'm leaving
and don't forget. I know, I know dad Tonto's coming.
And I said, do you want to work on the
presentation that you're going to do tomorrow or what do
you No? No, And he names the subject that he
wants to do. He goes, no, I'm good there, I'd
really want to do this. I'm like, okay, So I
leave and I'm here and then I'm trying to We're
fussing around with the lights and trying to look at stuff,
and I see a text come across as I'm on
the monitor, and I go, oh boy. And then I'm
saying I'm snapping at Kevin. Well, I mean I snacked.
You said you do the police.
Speaker 3: I was, well, I didn't get. I didn't get.
Speaker 2: I felt like I was kind of like, frust give
me my phone, and I should have said, please give
me whatever. So well I did. I feel bad. I
told you to get as your own goddamn self. I
just so because I was at the other end of
the table. And so now I'm calling and the tutor's like, hey,
there's no answer. I'm like, great, well, I can't get
location services. So now I get to call him a
third party to look at the location service because I,
for whatever reason, my phone I must have done something.
I should have you look at it, actually, because you
know that stuff, don't you A little bit? I guess
just to see and I will and uh, I just
to see where he's at, and I get no, he's
he's in the house. So I go back there. I
open the door and then I do like the he
refers to it as the icenck. He's like, all right,
which is now, this is just my frustration, so fuck
that you're supposed to be on. So I said, I go, bud.
He's like, well, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, right right. I said,
I told you he was coming, and you know, and
it's it's money, and all of a sudden, I just
I'm like and then he's like, I'm not ready, and
so I start gettingssed and I'm like saying things and
he's shutting down, and I'm like, well, this is gonna
go nowhere. And I said, all right, what would you
like me do? Can you ask him to leave? I
said fine, and I did, And then the guy's coming
back tomorrow anyway, So I gotta pay for that. I
told the kid I would. I told the kid I would.
He's like, I don't worry about I don't take care
of it. But it just frustrates the shit out of me.
And I was thinking about this earlier, like that.
Speaker 4: And you pay this, you pay this money out, and
then it's Friday. Can we go to the mall? I
need some I need some new stuff. It's always and
I'd be like, yeah, when you shut up for your tutoring,
we'll get there.
Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking about something here because I go, like,
you're running around, Kevin's running around with hockey. Uh, Dan
had no no kids, run around with the best gear
or roady, right, But I go. But then I was thinking,
like the three of us, Dan lives in theory, right,
I mean, you read a lot of stuff. I don't
even no, he lives he lives the theory proper, theory proper.
And then Kevin kind of lives in reality. And I'm
somewhere in between, trying not to get yell.
Speaker 3: I'm the guy, I'm the guy with no kids. But
yet here's how theory I live in.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: My siblings they haven't done this in a while, but
they used to complain about each other's kids and how
they behave. And then I would give my God and
then I would give my prescription and they say, well,
what do you know you don't have kids? Yeah, I
live in theory. I laugh about because I get it.
I totally get it.
Speaker 2: Well when I say you live in theory, when I'm
talking about well, yeah, share me here there it is,
but the button's coming. Huh, the shut up button is coming.
Oh no. What what it is to me is like
you optimized sleep macros supplements you've got all this down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I don't have any kids.
Speaker 2: Well, you know what the data says.
Speaker 3: I had a guy at church doing you really disciplined.
I go, I don't have kids, man, I go, I'm
not trying to make that excuse. He goes, oh, dude,
I use my kids as an excuse all the time.
He goes, we're at church here. I don't have to
lie to yet. I'm not gonna, but I go with you.
Speaker 2: Are you you? You research stuff and then question your doctor,
and your doctor's kind of go, all right, Dan, you.
Speaker 3: Can tell by looking at you you did not have peakos.
Speaker 2: I don't even oh pikos.
Speaker 3: By the way, I had to clean bill of health
the other day.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 3: Went to the doctor. My e kg perfect.
Speaker 2: I don't even know her mind it. My shit's all
over the place right now. Honestly it is. It's like
some things are in the uh abnormal and some things
are not. Nothing bad, nothing bad at all.
Speaker 3: Doctor goes, do you have a history of heart disease
in your family?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 3: Why what's up? I'm just asking? And then he goes, hey,
he goes, he goes, he goes, do you I go,
he goes no, cause you're your ekg is great. I'm
just asking if you have a history.
Speaker 4: I go, no, he asked me, did your research after that? Doctor?
Speaker 3: Then he asked me, he goes, hey, uh you see
a dermatologist? I go, why should I? No? You're fine,
You're fine. I'm just asking if you've seen one. I go,
I've never had a reason to why should I go? No,
You're good. It's almost like they're playing with you. They're
trying to poke you.
Speaker 4: A little bit.
Speaker 2: Did you have unprotected sex in the eighties? You might
have nobod I have a magicson Jersey ill blood on it.
But the thing with like then, I I'm thinking about
Danny's got, like the supplements and the regimen and all
the stuff he's going to do when he goes out
and he does, I would somewhere we have to find
Kevin the doorbell ring cam of Danny doing sprints down
his street, not his doorbell ring cam, any neighbors doorbell
ring cam, because that has I you know that, I
would to have great joy and watch.
Speaker 3: Oh, of course, yes, but he would literally call Tommy
up and goes, bro bro, I don't even talk to well.
But you want to have a good laugh. Just click play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but brow is that Danny like Kevin is like
you know, it probably listens to you goes. Yeah, try
that with three kids in six am hockey practice. It's
like impossible. That's why I say reality for gud.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've heard, I've heard.
Speaker 4: The run of the parking lot. I just don't.
Speaker 3: I've heard that. Like the hardest part of parenting is
when your kids joined sports. It just it takes on
a life of its own. The expense, the travel.
Speaker 2: It depends everybody.
Speaker 3: Everybody who runs these sports tall their their parents. Your
kid could be a Major League or an NFL NB necessarily.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, you've been in no right,
I would take a little bit. I would. There's some
that probably talked D one scholarship stuff, I mean potentially
or taut who's come out of our program that's gone
D one. So then may think that I don't know,
I know somebody who just two kids playing travel soccer.
Almost eight hundred dollars for.
Speaker 3: Uniforms for uniforms for uniforms, which is literally shirt shorts,
socks and numbers on them.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that compares. And I think that's
just the uniform, right, and not the kid, yes, and
not but not the not the shoot, not the cleats, No,
the cleat. That's so it's like with you, I don't
know what you're paying. And this would be travel. I
don't know the last time it wasn't built in. I
think it was like two hundred for the jersey in
the socks, okay, and the shell, and then how much
for like the helmet the stick. Well, that's all you
got to buy anyway.
Speaker 3: The actual retail price.
Speaker 2: I got to think you're a grand on between the skates,
the stick, the helmets broke and they broke a stick
about three weeks ago, and it was three seventy God
damn dude.
Speaker 4: But I know again I'm bitching about it.
Speaker 3: We know a guy whose daughter plays competitive hockey, right,
and she lost her stick, so he lost his crap
on it. He lost his crap, buys her a new stick,
goes up into her room. He goes, this place hasn't
been cleaned in months, it looks like, goes behind the curtain,
finds the stick she lost.
Speaker 2: Oh but I mean that's got two sticks. That's a kid,
that's a kid. We were sitting there during the semi
final game against Victor, and I think that Victor kids
broke five sticks during the game. I'm like, who, I
feel bad for those parents. That's sixteen hundred right there
in half on the ice. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a racket. They won't let you use wood
or anything. You got to use the special brand, right, Well.
Speaker 2: You don't have to use anything, you use any want.
Nobody uses wood anymore because it sucks. It sucks, so
you use the other one and they're and they're more
expensive and they probably do last longer for the most part. Yeah, yeah,
I mean that's what I would think.
Speaker 4: I mean, they they don't start breaking till like high school.
Speaker 2: I just the way I was thinking about it, I go,
we there is a Dan, a Kevin, and a Me
and every friend group. I really think that because the
more I think about it, because I'm going, you got
you got Danny, who's trying to live to one hundred
and twelve.
Speaker 3: We like the modern family of podcasts. We're a blended
podcast of two parents, three guys. Okay, so two are divorced,
two or two have been married, three have been married,
two are currently married. Yes, there's six boys between the
three of us.
Speaker 2: Yea and uh yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like it's like a blend the family
of podcasts.
Speaker 2: But the other thing is you're trying to live to
one hundred and twelve taking supplements that nobody can pronounce it.
Speaker 4: No, no, no.
Speaker 3: I am trying to live as healthy as possible till
either die or Jesus comes back. Okay, Okay, your lifestyle
determines your death style. James Headfield Metallica.
Speaker 2: And Kevin's what's gonna happen?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna all both say no.
Speaker 2: And Kevin's trying to survive to Tuesday, and I'm trying
to remember why I opened the fridge fucking five minutes ago.
I just going, it's that's that's it. That's the way
it is. That's just the way it is. We got
a uh, and wasn't here for this one?
Speaker 3: My phone around?
Speaker 2: Leave that? Okay, I got a You didn't say please again,
and I just said, is my phone around?
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's not a please.
Speaker 2: He didn't say thank you for your handing it to him.
Oh my god, can.
Speaker 3: You call Alex little Hitler? Who you mouse your tongue?
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you guys something like I I'm I
don't know whether to say this or not because I
know which.
Speaker 3: Means say it.
Speaker 2: No, I know, I know, I know that, I know that,
but I don't know how it's going to land with people.
So we have to do uh in the mental health
counseling classes, and.
Speaker 3: That's where it's going to go.
Speaker 2: And I'm I'm in a group class.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, a student.
Speaker 2: Nerva albums and that your brain's out. No, no, So
we have to do You have to lead a group
at one point, and you have a partner, and you
do it well. For some reason, there's a gap and
you can't have a day a class without somebody running
a psycho educational group for thirty minutes. So the people
who would go next week are supposed to move up
to this week, but they didn't want to. So I'm
watching all this go back and forth a week ago,
and I go, I'll do it. So I do a
group yesterday, and I compared. I compared boxing to group
therapy because group therapy is different. And it's just like
I said, in boxing, it's the punch you didn't throw.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we talked about this one. The one punch
you didn't throw, one step you didn't take.
Speaker 2: So I did do this in a small group and
brought the and ye, and I said, I'm going to
do it in the large group. That way, I didn't
have to really prepare anything else. But there were other
nuances around it, like the greatest exactly right, right, But
I mean, you are playing the greatest hits. I'm not
gonna lie, but you gotta be able to also play
in the moment, right, And you've got to do things
that are called linking. And myself, you gotta have these
more fluff you here and now.
Speaker 3: You know you're a big you're a big fan in
the in the in the in the bar community.
Speaker 2: So he's, uh, you gotta have like here and now moments.
So there are things take your shirt off next, so
there are things you have to do shirtless, mental health.
So I do this.
Speaker 3: It makes you more raw, more real.
Speaker 2: Ladies, ladies, It's like when you go on, touch your
bare feet to the grass. Yes, grounding, grounding, take your
shirt off.
Speaker 4: It's open opportunity everybody.
Speaker 2: I do it every day, man and ladies.
Speaker 3: The grounding mat, so it's not real.
Speaker 2: Ground Wait, you have a grounding math.
Speaker 3: It's got me a grounding mat for Christmas.
Speaker 2: It's also that it's that piece of trip that you
buy for the die when you live in an apartment
New York. I got one of those two from the
grounding mat. It's where she sends him when she's sick
of here in his mouth. You go to your grounding mat.
So wait, let me finish this. Sorry, it's fine. I
have a follow up with your die. Yes, but there's
things you have to do in there. You have to
talk about the group that came last, that went last week,
and did anybody have questions? And so the people did
it last week, did a great one about really coping
mechanisms and things, and gave us a tree and had
us right like, you know, things that we do that
we probably shouldn't do as self care. You know, I've
got drinking, smoking and all this shit in there. And
then they go up to the leaves and you're supposed
to put like the things we should do, the meditation,
the exercise to taking a walk right exactly. And one
kid made a really really I really like this guy.
His name is Brian, and he made a great observation.
He goes the leaves of a tree fall off and
he goes, it's just like me doing the healthy things.
I can do it for so long, but then the
leaves fall off and I'm back to the trunk where
I have my drinking. Right. So, when I came in
because of that exercise, in all honesty, I have been
to the gym four days since that last class, and I,
you know, just in terms of schedule and stuff, and
I have been eating healthier salmon, spinach, chicken, no cheese, no,
you know, just stuff. And I so I bring that
up and then you have to go through the confidentiality stuff.
I do the whole thing, and I go through, I
do the group. Here's where I get uncomfortable because afterwards
they the professor sits down and says, how do you
think it went? Just one on one with you? Or
with the entire group? And he says to me, how
do you run?
Speaker 3: Is this like what the cop pulls your goes, uh,
why do you think I pulled?
Speaker 2: Joe? But this would be like having an air check
in front of people. Yeah, understand saying the guy more
Stan Mayne or more Rick McKenzie. And the guy is
cool as ship, he's more Stan, so he uh, he
sits down and goes, how do you think it went,
and I go, I don't know. I thought it went
pretty good, pretty well. You know there was anything you
would have done different? And I said, yeah, I probably
would have tried to link something or whatever, But I
don't know. You're you're trying to like make sure you're
you're hitting the things you supposed to, but bringing your
authentic self and making this about step into the ring
next time you're in a group. And how when you
are leading group as a therapist, how do you get
people to step into the ring? How it's it's that
makes sense? Well, Danny, it's the same thing I said
on on the radio when we would do something and
I would really try to prepare something out, how do
I get you to give a shit about what we're
talking about right because a million other people are going
to talk about, well, why are we going to talk
about it and do it better or whatever?
Speaker 3: Not duplicatable content.
Speaker 2: So I was kind of the way I thought of this,
and and so I opened up with the gloves, talked
about stepping into the ring, then talked to like all
this shit. So he says, how do you think it
would here?
Speaker 4: A couple of dick jokes over here, I dropped. I
dropped close with.
Speaker 2: You want to know how I closed, motherfucker, I said,
Mike and say fuck off. But no, I talked about
there's a there's a young woman in our in the
in the group. She's I think she's when I say young,
she's like twenty one. And I find her to be
so funny. And we sat next to each other last
semester in a class and we used to fucking laugh
our asses off and ecuse it's me right, And then
she became my counselor when we had to do counseling
because she was in a different class, so like she
had to counsel me, and I said a ton of
shit in her like I just said ship that I
may not even say to my own therapy. I just
fucking bad it all out so radio, that's right, I'm
not So this is where uh so, we did the
privilege walk a while back, and I've mentioned that where
they ask you different questions, and all I want to
say about that to everybody was and again, some people's
road to wherever they are just had less potholes. That's
really what I believe. It's not that you didn't grow
your ass off. It's not that you didn't work your
ass off. It just means that sometimes you had a
little more maybe better network, better connections. That's a little
more privilege. It just is. It's just the way life is.
So this girl is a minority, and she was way
in the back, way in the back and of the
privilege walk. And somebody said in the class, they were
like the professor who did that class, different professor than
the one in the group. Therapy says, but it's all
the same people pretty much right from classic class. That
professor said, uh, you know, what did you think about it?
And somebody in the class said, I thought of and
names this woman and says, I thought of her and
how she may feel being in the back of the room.
It's basically what she said. I maybe I'm not getting
it accurate, accurate, said now Danny, careful, fucking careful.
Speaker 4: So I was gonna go there too, I.
Speaker 2: Know, I know't, but historically speaking, hang on a second.
So I in that moment, because I don't want this person.
I like this person, and I said, and I think
she said, I didn't even really get off the back wall,
and I went, I have no idea because I was
the first one to the candy ball, and that's true.
Speaker 3: He's like Whodricks who mounds.
Speaker 2: So so last night how I closed the group was
somebody said something. I go, you know what, I want
to bring something up here because we're all in training.
This is our shadow boxing right now. Right shadow boxing
is how boxers figured it out. You can tell a
lot about a boxer by watching them shadow boxing. It's
the footwork. It's that kind of shit. You know, it
looks funny, But the really good boxers they fucking got
it down and they know because they're watching themselves. And
it's just like listening to yourself if you're doing a
podcast or a radio show and just critiquing. So what
I said was, you know what, I want to go
back to the privilege walk because I'll tell you what
I remember. You know, I got to the candie bowl first,
and I said, and the person was sitting right next
to me, and I said, and we know that she
was there, And I go, but I go, but here's
the fucking thing. I go, Fuck it, We're all here,
and that's the thing we should remember. Fuck it. We're
all here, no matter how what road you took to
get here. Potholes not potholes. Fuck it, we're all here,
and I said, what are we going to do with it?
And that's kind of how I ended the group.
Speaker 4: Did you get a standing ovation when you no?
Speaker 2: But they now want to make fuck they want to
make T shirts. And then later on, when he was
kind of really critiquing, I'll tell you what he said,
he dropped an F bomb and somebody went, oh my god,
I've never heard him swear. And I go, well, that's
the magic vibe. Have people to see shit. But here's
where I get uncomfortable, daddy, because uh, some people said
to me, like, I wish you had slowed down, but
you only had thirty minutes. So to not be a dick,
I go. One of the biggest problems I have is
letting the silence sit. I go for thirty years dead
air was a bad thing. And so we're going on.
So then it's the professor's time to talk, and he says,
I've been teaching for a while. He goes, and I
certainly did this in my own education and things, and
he said there was another student at one point that
I often think of who came in and I guess
he played a Bruce Springsteen song on he played I'm
on Fire on a guitar and then somehow let a group.
He goes it was one of the best I've ever seen,
and I think of he goes this tonight was absolutely
one of the best groups I have ever seen run
and he and he meant it for everybody because everybody
was participating. So it's not just but the way it
was facilitated, which was me the metaphors that were used,
all this stuff.
Speaker 3: Also, yeah, cursing the cursing box.
Speaker 2: Right, but he goes it was authentically so it nice
to hear, right, nice to hear. And then some people
had some some what I thought was very valuable critique
that they said. But he was saying really really nice things,
even pulls me. Besides, after class, and goes, I hope
that you have the opportunity to run groups. I think
you'd be excellent at it. And I know when I
went upstairs to that small group, there was some ship
being talked about me because I got into.
Speaker 3: The room last and it got all quiet.
Speaker 2: Well, no, this one person got quiet and I looked
right after my I go your face says it all, motherfucker,
I know.
Speaker 3: You talk as shit that knows everything.
Speaker 2: Well, see this is it? And I go, you look
like the teacher's pet. You're not trying all, just trying
to fucking do everything. Everybody else is Do you understand
what I'm saying? And I go, God damn it. Can
I get a fucking break anywhere? Now? I got people
there that don't want to deal with me. I got
other people in my life that don't want to deal
with me.
Speaker 4: Do they know your relation to the department had.
Speaker 2: Only because he called it out? Yeah, he stood in
class and said, uh, I've drank PERSI moran when he
threw the first pitch the Red Wings game. But lead
our privilege. Time out timeout one, time out one.
Speaker 3: We can raise money.
Speaker 2: Hang on, I could. It doesn't matter. I could. I
could go in there. I could blow the whole thing.
I could be you know, and and and fucking tank it.
Or I could go in there and actually take advantage
of it and try to do the best I could.
It's an opportunity. I feel like it's an opportunity for
me to learn something I've never learned. And I love learning,
and I love the deeper philosophical ship. I always have
go ahead face No, no, I'm not I actually have question.
Speaker 3: I would to you, you want to do yours first, so.
Speaker 2: You talk about these groups. Do people in this class
are they more willing to work with you? Or do
they not want to work with you? Oh? No, they're
willing to work. Actually, I feel like, are you the
popular kid or you're like last pick Bill and my
last pick Bill. I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 4: I really don't know the answer to your last pick.
Speaker 2: I guess I mean there.
Speaker 3: You can't at the table.
Speaker 2: If I if there's group stuff, there's always somebody wants
to work with me. Yeah, I don't know. Do they
draws trials before it's your turn? Sorry, d I do
start to think the mits.
Speaker 3: We don't get the hits. Danny shouldn't be panting, you're
just holding the mits.
Speaker 2: I just I don't know, Kevin, I don't know. I'm
starting to worry. And this is something that never has
entered my mind ever in my life at all, whether
somebody liked me or not. I just never really I
never went that deep on it. I figured I don't
like everybody, so probably everybody doesn't like me, and whatever,
you know what I mean, and and and move on.
And I wasn't there. What did I used to always
say to you, I'm not burning calories, I'm not wasting time.
Speaker 3: On Yeah, that was your thing. Yeah, twenty seventeen, you
had a new phrase. I don't purn calories on that
mother effort. I don't purk calories.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to give a speech at graduation, right, No,
I guarantee you're gonna be asked to give graduation Yeah,
but I.
Speaker 3: Don't think it. Masters and master's good graduation.
Speaker 2: They have speech, so I don't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, for your doctor, for your doctory. Everybody has
to present give their defense.
Speaker 2: No, but not a graduation. Not.
Speaker 3: Well, that's kind of the graduation.
Speaker 2: Well, you got to give your defense in front of
a team of people. That's a that's good.
Speaker 3: That's why I think boxing is a metaphor for life.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to give a speech. I can already
see it. No, but here's what I sit there and
help you find write it.
Speaker 2: I I have said, I have said that I am
going to throw a huge party when we all graduate.
Speaker 4: Oh, Damien upstairs, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't be bigger than no, No, No.
Speaker 4: I think Damien all west side.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: But I'll read out the entire Walmart parking lot.
Speaker 2: Bill palooza may gonna be a podcast situation too, where
we we we do a live show.
Speaker 3: To pass Mike doing his Deviled eggs the Yeah, but
my worry is that you become like the kiss ass or.
Speaker 2: Everybody that feels to great. And I know that that's
what this person was saying. And I sent the person
a text later that night of nice text, just saying
middle finger over they did not and it wasn't. But
then I'm going, ooh, was it taken as that? Because
I did come in and go, I know you're talking
about me, and the person just started laughing, and I go,
I know it. I can feel it. I can feel it.
I got a sixth sense. I can feel. But I'm
making I'm making somewhat of a joke. But I'm also like,
come on, man, I didn't ask him to say this ship.
Speaker 4: Isn't somebody who wishes they could be you? No, not
in the in the realm of the class. I don't
think I want to be the number one.
Speaker 2: Well when somebody they used to ask me last semester
or how'd you do on that test or whatever, and
I'd give the number that I got, and they would
get mad, not mad, but they'd be like, you gotta
be kidding, and I'd be like no, And so I
don't think you're stupid. I think they're surprised at I
think they're surprised.
Speaker 3: Look at the old guy.
Speaker 4: They all think you're some dumb radio guy.
Speaker 3: I think that no one knew tie that in go ahead.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody knew what to expect. Honestly, I
don't think anybody did. And I think when I get
in there and then I say something, and I think
that in the beginning, my I guess it's a defense
mechanism I'm learning. I don't know. I just see I
just see funny all the fucking time, all the time.
I saw something so goddamn funny the other day, and
I could tell nobody. I could say fucking nothing, because
you know, I'm in the school because I like to,
I need. I want health insurance and it's better health insurance.
And I have Jameson living with me, so I do this,
and I'm with this one young man. Please just just
let it, just let it sit. You could laugh, but
just let it sit. Just let it sit. Please. So
there's a young guy who I just a delight of
a human being, this kid, but he has a physical
disability where one of his arms doesn't work as well.
It's not attrophy or just he can't really move that arm, Okay,
and it's almost like the whole left side of his body.
You can make your assumptions. I don't know the answer
to that. I'm not here. I'm not I'm not saying anything.
Speaker 3: For col alright.
Speaker 2: So the art teacher is a really creative, wonderful person
who is from another country and has a pretty thick
accent from that country. Okay, and she pronounces this kid's
name someone incorrectly that I'm surprised that these kids don't
pick up on it, because I would immediately. I'm not
saying anything on here. I'm not saying anything on here.
I will tell I will tell you assholes off the air,
and you can tell me. You can then kind of
stay something that you set, but hang on. The woman says,
So they're doing a clay project, right, and you've got
a kid who has really one hand that works well,
and she's calling them up to get their clay project
to go back and now paint it and glaze it.
I think I know where this is going, and she
what what is it? I wait, no, no, and see
if you're right. You might be right. Clay Donner no, no, no, no, no, no,
Jesus no, no, no, one hand he did. He did
a great job. He really did. Bro.
Speaker 3: There was a cornhole player with no hands and legs
who shot somebody. If you put your mind to it,
you could do anything.
Speaker 2: So here's the funny part. And I can't do anything.
I can't laugh, I can't. I can't anything. And there's
a reason why this is even funnier. And that's when
I'll tell you off air. You will you Kevin will
go fucking insane when I tell you this. So that
they says so and so here's your thing, carry it
with two hands back to the table, and I'm going.
You gotta waiting. We have the same planet. I'm just there.
I can't and there's nobody, there's nobody. I can fucking
say anything to nobody. Do you know how painful that is?
Speaker 3: It's like that episode of Yes.
Speaker 2: Well I can't. I'll tell you why you didn't get
a text afterwards.
Speaker 3: No, it's like that scene from the Office where Jim
realizes Jim finds Dwight, thinking goes into Dwight's trim the prankum.
He sees Angela's feet. He doesn't know it's Angela. He
thinks Dwight got a hooker. He wants to call Pam,
but he realizes he can't. Then he has nobody to call.
He's got a storytell and he can't tell anybody.
Speaker 2: Right, So this is exactly that. And but but think,
like my, I find just life in general, And maybe
it was a coping mechanic for me since I was
a kid, But I found life in general fucking hilarious.
Like the kid who is Locker was next to me
in school, not very popular, kind of quiet, but always
dressed like in a leather jacket and a bandana tied
around his head. So I called him Willie, as in
Willie Nelson. He goes to a Willie Nelson concert and says,
I got Willy to sign my back. I go, you
gotta be fucking kidding me. He says, no, pulls up
his shirt.
Speaker 3: I go, tattoo.
Speaker 2: I go, if you don't get that tattooed, No, he goes,
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Comes
in one day has it tattooed, but it's like raw.
And so when he pulls his shirt down, I slap
him on the backrel That was me. That was me,
and I go, great, tattoo like I used to do
that all the time. His name was Rich. I would
love to know where Rich is today and what an
asshole he thought I was. But it was always like
I was always looking to play, have fun, just fucking around.
I didn't mean it bad, but you.
Speaker 3: Ran again, So Scott's.
Speaker 2: You sent to your classmate. You are so stupid and
I am so smart. No, it was not. Was there
a thought of that, No, nope, not.
Speaker 4: At what point will that thought come out?
Speaker 2: Not even close? Because what I actually what I wrote
was I've learned so much from you. That's what I wrote. Nice,
I'm not, I'm not. I'm just saying like I don't
want them to all fucking I just don't you know
what I mean. You want to be liked. It's not
even to be liked. I guess I don't really care
if i'd be like, here's the thing is, though, I
don't want to be seen as some kind of spoiled bitch. Yes,
but the thing is, like I did the work. You
could have done it too. You had the opportunity to
step up. I'm not even getting graded on this, I
will tell you because he said, I'm not going to
grate it because you've already I already did one with
a partner. They needed somebody. No one was stepping up.
I got fuck it, I'll do it.
Speaker 3: There's three things that's for some extra credit. Then three
things I've taken front of me. What number one?
Speaker 2: Number one?
Speaker 3: Often, not always, but often people hate seeing in you
what they wish they had themselves. Yeah, even in small
instances like this class.
Speaker 2: I know that.
Speaker 3: Number two. Number two years of radio. Think about how
many people we've counseled, yes, or theories, because everything a
radio is really a theory, an idea that you bring
up and you talk about. Well, yeah, right, so like everyone,
like people used to call us all the time for
advice on everything, and then we'd help. We'd ask each
other for help with things both on and off the ears.
You kind of have that psych experience for years without
being called this a therapist. And number three this privilege walk.
Speaker 2: Yeah you how many kids were in this class?
Speaker 3: How many people are in this class?
Speaker 2: I think there's like twenty seven.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's say twenty seven people and you were the
first one to get to the candy jar. Yeah, these
people know you were molested. And how many potholes does
that take?
Speaker 2: Yes? Because I have mentioned that, but.
Speaker 3: It wasn't in their line of questioning.
Speaker 2: I think there was, so I think because I stopping
them from that.
Speaker 3: I was molested. Let's do it a better life than
all y'all. Either that is, did they neither recalibrate this
test or or these people are so self centered and
self indulgent and self loaded.
Speaker 2: No, I think you were answering questions and what you
did was you took a step forward or you took
a step back, depending on the direction. So there were
questions like did you step Yeah? Did you grow up
in a house I'm try to no, no, I know,
but did you grow up in a house where, uh
one or more of your parents had a college degree?
Did you grow up in a house where one or
more of your parents or guardians had an advanced degree
beyond college. Did you grow up in a home where
the guardians had a job that required them. Did you
grow up in a home that had more than three
or four books or whatever that.
Speaker 3: Did you grow up with parents or guardians? That would
be a question.
Speaker 2: Yeah. There was also and then there were.
Speaker 3: Kid you know Jerry Sandusky. Okay, take one step back.
Speaker 2: There were there were things like did you have some
uh anybody have to like go to rehab or something
like anybody used drugs or alcohol in your family that
resulted in rehare. I know some radio people I had that.
I did have that. Uh So I took a step back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: And then there was I'm trying to think the other
step back. Oh, you know what I think they did
say abuse? There was a sexual abuse. Maybe I stepped
back three times. And then there was one where were
you ever accused by someone of harassment or crime or
anything like that? And there was a time where I
was leaving the wind field and I had been DJing yeah,
and I got pulled out It wasn't me, and then
the girls are scared and I got brought back to
my car by the police officer. But I said that
was excuse. I probably could have gone either way on
that one because I never even saw the people who
were accusing me, So maybe it was made up at
the time. I don't know, so uh, yeah, but I
got the rest of them. I don't remember the rest
of the questions. But it's interesting, you know, I mean,
it was interesting, and I don't it's just funny how
we weigh Well, the only thing I'm saying is like
or how the questions are kind of it seems loaded.
I don't think so, I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know, because to me, like being abused like
that should be a lot heavier than one step.
Speaker 2: Well everything was one one step, one step front or
one step right.
Speaker 3: But that's my point though, that's my point that like
everyone's got a different path, like, but like you said, Effet,
we're all here. That should be the main point. But
I think I think too many times we play the
victimization card or embrace the victimization card.
Speaker 2: I don't know that you can say victim is victim
is victimization card when you were talking about your your parent,
guardian's education. Yeah, you know what I mean, that's maybe
that's not the right way. That's what they're and all
their circumstances card. Yeah, and all that is is opportunity
is basically what's the thing. It's like there my.
Speaker 3: Parents, what the college?
Speaker 2: No I know, But so in the privilege walk. You
wouldn't move on that one. You'd either stay stationary or
unless it said take one step back if this happened.
So there was a lot of that. I mean it
was you know, it was not like I mean I
broke free. You know, all of a sudden, I became
who's that famous horse? I can't remember the.
Speaker 3: Secretary of secretary that I got touch and I still
finished the in front of everybody else.
Speaker 2: That's right, all right, we'll take you my mouth bar.
We'll take a moment. I'm gonna tell Kevin and Dan
uh the whole picture of the thing that you do.
You want to react on air, No, I don't, but
I mean you will because you're not going to be
able to I think Kevin well, I don't think Kevin
will be able to handle not and uh. And then
we will come back and we'll get to somebody wrote
in a complaint about a recent episode. Not a complaint.
I shouldn't say that, dear Bill. I think it's it's
an observation. I do want to respond here, what's a
comment like that?
Speaker 3: So so we're still making it.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 3: I don't care if everybody who listens this podcast hates me.
Those long as they have an opinion.
Speaker 2: Oh good, they don't hate you. That's not true, Kevin.
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something up before we started, and it was, what did
you do you saw Mama Cass last night?
Speaker 3: I was I just watched YouTube videos sometimes, and I
saw a video of the Mama's and the Papas, Yeah,
making their debut on the Ed television show. And they
did a medley of four or three songs. They did
Monday Monday, so.
Speaker 2: They had hits, but this was her first time on
that show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Monday, Monday. And then, uh, can I.
Speaker 2: Tell you what year it was?
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I think it was sixty seven. I think
it was sixty seven, maybe maybe sixty I don't know,
but it was the mid sixties. It was a color uh,
and it was it was Monday Monday, California Dreaming. And
then the third song that Mama Cass sang, yeah, And
it was funny because so Papa John Phillips is introducing
the band to Ed Sullivan and he goes, so there's
our Mexican gypsy Michelle, right, and she's like gorgeous. And
then there's Denny Doherty. Singer. And then there's Mama cass Elliott,
who is also our magic mushroom, and she gives him
this weird look like really and but I mean, if
you look at her the dress she's wearing, she kind
of looks like a purple mushroom. But she's like she's
the most like animated on the stage when they're singing
that great, oh, phenomenal singer.
Speaker 2: But she died. Mama cast was always supposed to be fat,
and she was allegedly died while eating a ham sand
She had a heart tax, but there was a ham
sandwich and the ham.
Speaker 3: Sandwich sitting next to her bed when she had the
heart attack.
Speaker 2: It's a bad way to go if you, I mean,
you know, okay and young, Yes, I don't know how old,
but I don't either.
Speaker 3: I don't think she was twenty seven, like she might
have been younger, but uh, but she wasn't bad looking, no,
like everybody always told me that she was.
Speaker 2: Nobody wanted hers, okay, but she was big and fat.
She was big, okay, but for the time, she was
big and fat.
Speaker 3: And I think she would be kind of like considered
big now, like she'd be doing the ozembic thing now.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, hang on a second, This is where I
was going to go. I think that Mammy, you had
to work hard to be fat in nineteen sixty seven.
I just to processed food so it could be a
genetic thing.
Speaker 3: Who knows David did a song about no one's getting
fat except Mama cast Dude, he did a song like that.
Speaker 2: Two thirty and sixty seven is like three twenty seven.
Now she I don't know. She was thirty two when
she died. Okay, so she was older. Well that's still
but she didn't a.
Speaker 3: Heart attack though, right it is, Oh gosh, like forty
forty should be the beginning of heart attack age. It
shouldn't be the thirty No. I mean, well, dude, I'm
forty six.
Speaker 2: The but Mama Cass, I would think today. I wonder
if she would be considered big again because of ozempic, Like,
would it be suggested to her or a while ago
it just wasn't. It was not even a thing. I know.
Speaker 3: I think they suggested to more and more people.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I said things about gop ones and
got pushed back from a listener, And I don't know
if I've softened my thing I worry that a shortcut
isn't a long sustainable thing. But there are people who
are benefiting from it, and there are people who are
borderline diabetic that maybe this keeps them off diabetes. I
don't know, I don't care. I just thought died and exercises. Well,
there thing that used to be bad to say, and
now well, you.
Speaker 3: Know how, Like they found out that monoxidil it was
originally a heart pill or a heart solution, but they
realized it really didn't anything of your heart, but it
was helping people's hair grow out, like, so they gave
it to So they started recommending it to people, and
all of a sudden, men were using it for their hair,
and it became a thing sometimes off label usage of
prescription draws. So now they're for inflammation. They're recommending ozembic
to people who don't even have a weight issue, just
to deal with pain.
Speaker 2: I am hearing that too. So Mamma cast apparently was
two thirty eight when she died in seventy four. Throughout
her life, her count weight we fluctuated significantly due to
extreme crash and starvation diets, reaching a higher.
Speaker 4: Three hundred and at about one seventy five.
Speaker 3: So she was on her way down when she had
the heart attack. Don't we know somebody who lost a
ton of weight and then had a heart attack, Tiny
Glover or somebody.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, tiny was on it. Yeah, treadmill. But yes
it is true. Five five wow man, that is that is.
It reminds me of my bus driver when I was
a kid, and I used to say, we made up
a song Missus Barry, missus Berry. I think drove my
school bus from kindergarten to Senior York as when I
we get in trouble, I have to take the school bus,
and uh, I used to sing a song where was
I ahead of go? She was my berry? Was to
like Chuck Berry's Blueberry Hill or something, and it was
she's four feet high and two feet wat, she's my berry,
wears those shades upon her eyes. She's my berry. I
used to sing that on the school bus. All right,
here is the see. See you're getting insight into what
I was.
Speaker 3: Like when you met Tommu Lay. He must have been
I met my soulmate.
Speaker 2: Well I felt. I will tell you that it was
a very kindred, kindred spirits. Yes, I will say that,
but I didn't have sometimes the ball to say those things,
like there were just some things I just wouldn't and
he did. But I certainly saw the funny and appreciated
the funny. I could see it like all the time.
Speaker 3: There was one time when we were at Tommy's house yea,
and one of the one of the co hosts at
the time, had lunch with another co host from another
radio station, and you guys like were smoking weed, you
and Tommy and Rich Yeah, and Phil and I and
the other Phil and I weren't. It was Tommy's living room, yes,
and you guys were talking about the two people having
lunch and talking about all the things you guys they
would order, and all the food at house got sunburned
because they were out there for so long. And you
guys like did a forty five minutes just out there lutch.
Speaker 2: We're fucking crying. Yeah, we had.
Speaker 3: Pictures of you like howling we were.
Speaker 2: My stomach hurts so bad. I can remember that now.
My stomach hurts so bad I thought I was gonna
throw up. Yeah, and the bad Okay, so it's not
nice to me.
Speaker 3: Did you guys have look Wayne County?
Speaker 2: There used to be it's not nice to make fun
of heavy people. Why looking at me as whole? I
should look at myself. Okay, I don't think of ai.
I'm way over. I'm way over. So there used to
video you did you see my gut? I know I
was that. I was so. I was so happy that
I started back at the gym and started eating healthy
and going. Man, anytime now, anytime kick it. There used
to be some very very big people that would go
into one of the studios because they had a coffee table,
but it was also like a fish bowl because there
was glass on each side. But you would be in
there privately, you know the studio I'm talking about and you,
but everybody could see it. So they would go in,
and then sometimes one of them got pregnant and they
would lay on the couch right and so it was
referred to by somebody as because I think, what was
the movie The Joy Luck Club had come out and
he called this the Chow Luck Club. And then one
of them got became pregnant, but the person was so
big he couldn't really tell.
Speaker 4: Was it the one that we shared the office with
that was like diagonal from us?
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer.
Speaker 4: That had fun with twins.
Speaker 2: No, no, not that person, but this this person became
pregnant and her name was Claire, and she was referred
to as the Claire Sandwich Project. And then when she
became pregnant, he they always go, did her dip break yet?
And it's so bad, and like I like her dip
it goes, you're hell of a good go because instead
of for water breaking, dip would break.
Speaker 3: I thought you made a joke about e Claire.
Speaker 2: He did, but bro, come on, Clarian, that Claire Sandwich
project was there. All right, let me get to this thing,
because this will be interesting for everybody. The other day
on the podcast, I had talked about President Trump's reaction
to the death What oh.
Speaker 3: I didn't hear this.
Speaker 2: You didn't hear it.
Speaker 3: I heard about the reaction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Cohen died and Cohen looks like he's gonna die. Yeah,
Muller died. Is it mother Mueller? They call him, Okay,
they call him. So Muller died, and President Trump said
good or something else right, and went on. And all
I was saying was it became it wasn't really about Trump.
Wasn't the intended thing. It was like, it's a very
human thing to be petty at times, and you know
what I'm saying. But then it became like President Trump
has done things that no one else has ever done,
like the first time he ran. So I'm when I
brought this up, I was referring to twenty sixteen, and
I just said, I don't know that anybody on any
side of the aisle at that moment thought he was
going to win the nomination at that moment when they
were a bunch of people when he's calling him little
Mark or Rubio. But it started to be people are like,
you can do that right, right, you know Jeb Bush?
I mean, did not everybody think Jeb Bush would be representing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because like you want to talk about like a
good old boys club, Jeb Bush was like the vice president.
Speaker 2: So whether like him or not, that was my That
was kind of my point, And I go, he has
never not been who he is, no matter what we
can say, not presidential, I get it, but he's always
been that guy. Yeah, at least in office and probably
throughout his entire life.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The only time he wasn't that guy was on
the Apprentice when they could edit him out.
Speaker 2: So we got we got this and and so Laura
said something about I don't well, I think he gets
in here. This person writes, I got a question for
you and your brand, your band of misfits and sex toys,
about her comment around dumb quote dumb educated white males.
The data don't back you up. Trump's twenty twenty four
win came with a more diverse coalition than ever. Big
gains with Hispanic voters and men of color.
Speaker 3: So I'm big with the blacks. I'm a huge fan
of the blacks, great relationship with the blacks.
Speaker 2: So if you let me see what I'd say. If
you call that okay, I'm getting texts at the same time.
Speaker 3: The Mexicans call they want me to build the wall.
Speaker 2: So if you call that dumb white males, you're just
insulting millions of non white voters who looked at the
same facts and still chose him. Do you apply that
same standard to black and Hispanic voters who moved toward Trump.
Don't even get me started on the gun discussion. If
strict gun laws and democratic leadership were the magic solution, Chicago, Baltimore, Oakland, Filly,
and Detroit would be the safest places in America, not
some of the most violent. What scares me is that
you guys would vote for a half dead guy or
someone like Kamala who absolutely is not fit for the presidency,
than Trump, who was actually making a difference. So here's
I want to respond to this, and I I was
going to write it, and I go, now, I'll do
it on the podcast because I got the message, right,
I got a message, and I do appreciate this message
because things get interesting. And what I was referring to
was when he first came on, because I didn't see
as much name calling this time. Matter of fact, I
think I said in that podcast you were here that
I thought Trump was somewhat less trumpish when Biden was
not doing well in the one debate, to the point
where they took him out of the presidency, right or
I wouldn't let him run, not out of the president,
but wouldn't let it run. So first run, Trump was
a political grenade. He was in a suit that was
Trump because he was coming in and he was doing
things that I don't think I've ever seen. I didn't
I don't remember anybody calling names, not.
Speaker 3: An American president. Well, I remember, not in the way
they mean Bush Newcucus, like through mud. But they were
like no, but they.
Speaker 2: Weren't like calling names little Marco Rubio, you little hands
like no, nobody was belitterally getting over there, Christie.
Speaker 3: Yes, like there was none of.
Speaker 2: That ever, right, that is Krispy kree. Right. So that's
what I'm talking about, not the whole presidency, not every policy.
That's not what I was mentioning, nor was she, and
and not not even this person or any person's group
chat has running commentary on all this ship, not at
all the version. And this is where I actually agree
with part of what the guy said. Trump to me
built a coalition that surprised a lot of people I did.
That's real, that happened. I can't really deny that. But
here's the problem, and this is where to me it
goes sideways. We have completely as a society lost our
ability to separate a point from a person. Well, yeah,
we can't do it. And the second you say anything
about someone, people assume you're saying everything about them. And
that's why I said, we are now like diehard sports
fans for political groups. And it's not that you're wrong,
it's you're dead fucking wrong. How could you say this.
Speaker 3: I think. I think Adam Carolla was talking about this
the other day, how they like Jay Leno or somebody
did a bit where they went on the streets of
Burbank and they asked people about certain policies and they
told them who the president, who the person was behind it,
and then they started like MF and everything. They just
said that they agreed with because they don't like the guy.
Speaker 2: No, right, exactly. And but but that was before Trump. Yeah, yeah, right,
So that's what I'm saying. And the second you say
one thing about someone and everybody thinks it's about that,
it's like, I'm not writing a biography. I'm making a point.
And that was all it was. She was making a point,
And I do think in the beginning it was WWE style.
I mean, that's the only thing I can think. Is
that a fair comparison. You guys are wrestling fans.
Speaker 3: Are gonna do crooked Hillary, see like you'd be in jail.
I know the system is rigged because I benefit from it.
Speaker 2: I mean nobody.
Speaker 3: I mean, Dave Chappelle's like.
Speaker 2: Darryl Yeah, I know it's rigged. Dave Chapelle, he benefit
from Like we did this thing on the last podcast,
it was like, uh uh, if you're rich, it's classy.
If your port's trashy, and it was getting money from
the government, if you're rich, it's classy. If you're port's
actually right, I mean that's that's what's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like benefit, that's what he's talking about, corporate welfare.
So I was a great example. There's a stadium big
built on Abbot Road where the Buffalo Bills are going
to be playing. How about of that is is corporate welfare?
Speaker 2: I yes, I don't know on that one, only because
that money is in the budget for the arts and
so if it wasn't or entertainment, let's put it that way.
And if it wasn't going to go to the Bills,
it was going, yeah, let's go for the same thing.
And so my only thing is that because I had
I think I talked about this where I felt like
I was under pressure at my cousin's house and he's going, hey,
I about that stadium, and I didn't want to get in.
I'll see this is what everybody says. But hang on
because as Greg Connors told us, right, it was Greg
that said this that and he had done some digging
on this stuff and said that it's in the budget.
So if it's not spent here on entertainment or the arts,
it's going to be spent somewhere else. It is not
going into some other line in the budget. And how
many stadius are we funded in New York City as
New York Tech State tax payers? Oh yeah, Yankee Stadium, Uh,
the City Field? Yeah, so I mean, but I hear you.
I hear what people are saying.
Speaker 3: But look, I'm happy the Bills getting the stadium. I
like my football team, and we all have to admit
when we are like biased towards certain things. Okay, but
you know, on the list of things that New York
needs to pay for, I think the arts are kind
of down on the list.
Speaker 4: Couldn't we have just repurposed Rhino Stadium for the new Billity.
Speaker 3: It's there, that would be the directors the erector sets
put another level. It's still there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still is the Bill Gray still there? No, No,
there was nobody around. They had made no sense. Let
me go back to, uh, the Trump thing, because here's
what I wanted to say, and and my point, you
can think whatever you want about Trump and still admit
something that I have said repeatedly, and I think that
two things can be not right at the same time.
But you can have I don't like this guy or
whatever and still go, yeah, but that's kind of true.
He might be, and I've said this many, many, many times,
the most effective president ever at using the office as
a bully pulpit. And that's what the president's he is.
It's really about being a bully pulpit. Not the nicest,
not the commest, not the guy you want your mom
uh taken to Thanksgiving dinner if she's divorced or widowed
that's right, not the guy you want reading to your
kids tonight. But in terms of grabbing attention and bending
the conversation, the guy's different level. Yes, I mean, I'm sorry,
he just is. And that is where this actually gets
interesting to me, because when you start thinking about this,
it isn't about Trump. It's about how we think. And
that's where I want to say to this guy. His
name is Tom, and Tom is really cool, writes a lot,
so I don't want to. But we hear one phrase
like dumb, uneducated white males, and instead of asking what's
the actual point being made in this conversation, we go
straight to which sideer do you want? I say, And that,
to me is the problem. And once you do that,
the conversation's over.
Speaker 3: It's now longer, now becomes an ad hominem yea.
Speaker 2: Because now it is just about what sideer you want,
and it's it's to me, it's jerseys. It's blue and red,
you know, and what are you wearing? And nobody's listening,
and that's the problem. Everybody is just waiting to CounterPunch.
And I don't know where why that is. Is it
because he has done a great job at putting himself
out there as the victim of so many things, Russia, Russia, Russia, hoax,
fake news, all this stuff, to the point now where
everybody's going to just defend. But it was like, sometimes
people are going to say things. They're going to say things,
they're going to say dumb white males is what I
liketed him. It's an off the cuff comment in a
free flowing conversation. But it wasn't the point of the
conversation at all. And that's where I go if we
could look past the things that maybe just bother us
a little bit, because we're never going to get rid
of that it's always going to come at you. What
is the actual point and instead of going to which
side are you on, go to what's the actual point? Right?
Speaker 3: What she said, Yeah, address the dumb, white educated male's part.
Speaker 2: Well, not that's what he did. We never That wasn't
the point of the conversation. The point of the conversation
was that he did this. It's not unexpected. This is
who he has been all the time. My point is,
like one of the hottest words in the world right
now is authenticity. Right, be your authentic self. Always be
your authentic self. Podcasters, this go to your you know,
when you go to the doctor's would be Okay. I'm
I'm to the point now where I'm not sure what
authentic actually means. But if I were going to try
to define it, it's the guy who never changed for anybody,
at least while he's been leading the nation. And I
would like him or not like him. I think he
can see that. I think I don't know, uh.
Speaker 3: At least you know where he stands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know what I'm saying, No, I right,
but I'm saying, like, okay, not the most presidential thing
tuisia got good? He's dead yeah, that wasn't no, I
got it. But there's been a lot of not cool things.
But my point is that he's never done any different.
Aline never done and people been okay with that. Like
we've come a far away from when, like you know,
Clinton was getting a blowjob in the office to gravin
Pussy's this that who knows what's going on in this
fucking island where I mean, Jesus Christ, people are trying
to pull themselves away from Epstein, like it's they just
can't get far and off away. All of a sudden,
it's like, wow, yeah, I took a plane flight with
the guy, but I didn't talk to him. You know.
It's like, okay, and I took a picture with these
redacted files. Where are we going? And and it's like
Trump has these pictures. He's a terrible guy.
Speaker 3: Who knows right who Chelsea going, Hey, let's all take
a picture literally Chelsea saying.
Speaker 2: It, but here's here to me is like the uncomfortable
truth of what this guy Tom writes. You can insult
voters on either side and still not understand why they
voted the way they did. Oh yeah, you cannot under right,
So we can say that there are people. Who is
everybody who voted for Trump an uneducated white male? Clearly
not clearly. The answer to that is no. And if
you don't understand the person's why, you're just yelling and
a void man. And I you know, So the thing
would be like, if if we wanted to get into it,
you could ask Laura, who made the comment, why did
you not vote for him? Or why did you vote
for the other side, and and she'll have a very
good answer, or she will have an answer whether or not.
You whoever the you is, has to decide if it's
a good enough answer for you. But it certainly was
a decision for her, just like you made a decision yourself.
And I don't understand why in a free country you
can't make those decisions.
Speaker 3: If you excuse to me, you didn't talk about if
you didn't want the Well that's how Trump got elected
in twenty sixteen. So Nate Silver did the whole thing.
He goes, I can't figure out Trump. I can't figure
out I think Hillary's going to win this election. And
here's why. So everybody went into that election thinking that
Trump was going to get steamrolled by Hillary, right, and
he said he ends up putting the election and it
was stunned. Well, the reason was because the people who
really wanted to vote for Trump, which didn't want to
say anything, they didn't want talentybody, yes, because they were
afraid of being typecast as what Laura said.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, exactly, But that's true what I said about
kind of just yelling into a void and wanting to
know a person's why. That's true when you're talking about
white voters, black voters, Hispanic voters, whatever, anybody, right, And
people aren't data points, right not. They're making decisions and
those decisions are influenced by fear, by identity, by hope,
by money, right. I mean there were a lot of
people who I know who had a lot of money.
You go, I pulled the vote for him because I
just knew he was going to protect money, right, whatever
it was.
Speaker 3: Whatever your why is, that's the reason you vote. Everybody
has their why or why's.
Speaker 2: It's yes, and sometimes that's well, it goes back to
this too, when we've had this conversation, it goes back
to just sometimes it is somebody who makes you feel
like you're winning, You're on the winning team. And I
have said about President Trump many times. I said it
when I was on the radio, I go, if you
believe in the manifestation of things and talking them into existence,
I don't think the universe gives a fly. And fuck
if you're a good person or a bad person. If
the law of attraction is truly a law like physics
that some people claim it is, that motherfucker proves it.
Everything's the biggest, the baddest, and the best. It's the biggest,
the baddest, in the best. And what has he had?
Pretty much a life filled with the biggest, the badest,
the best. And that's all I'm saying. And if you
reduce all that to their dumb you didn't win the argument, No,
and you just avoided it is kind of how I
see it. I don't know, And that is the part
that I kind of actually care about. So the second
you say, Tom, I'm gonna talk to you right now,
the data doesn't back you up. In a text that's
really long, you've officially entered guy who brought spreadsheets to
a bar fight. That's what you've done to me in
a way, because you didn't ask, well, why are you
saying that, because clearly that's not true, But why why
are you saying that? And I didn't ask because I
wasn't really making that point about whether they were uneducated
or not. I just thought it was kind of a uh,
off the cuff remark of somebody who's not a fan, right,
and by the way, who does make most of those comments, Like,
out of all of our friends that we know, who
we go, it's small hands, so right, Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know, So that that's the uh.
Speaker 3: I wish that, you know, we could go back to
just not telling people what we thought. Yeah, when it
came to politics, like you want the president to be diplomatic,
why don't you be diplomatic too? I mean, is that
the case?
Speaker 2: Well, isn't that what we should be? I don't know,
because we hear the other side of this too. There's
it's a very complicated thing for me. And I mean
that I always sounds really dumb to say that, but
it's complicated for me. And here's why. Uh. Oftentimes we
have heard people say, and I will use Sandra Dorley
as an example, Sandra Dorley had that whole incident that
was bodycam footage at her house and blah blah blah,
and she was acting in a way that really upset
a lot of people. And the big thing I would
hear is they owe us better. They always better they
or or they should be held to a higher standard.
I heard that. I heard people say it. So if
that's the case for.
Speaker 3: The same standard, I guess that was the argument that
somebody made on this show. If you're going to enforce
the rule, if you could quote the rules.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm fine, that's fine. But oftentimes when
somebody in a political office of a local nature, it's
always that well, they should be held to a higher standard.
You're the one setting the example, same thing, same thing
as her. She should you know, by the way, you're
the one that enforces these laws. Right, you're the district attorney,
So you should hold yourself to a higher st in
or not do this kind of thing. And that that's
what I hear. Well, you can say that about the presidency,
who no matter who's in office, just call it the presidency.
Speaker 3: Do you do that or do you pick and choose
who you play this game with?
Speaker 2: Right, And so that's my only thing, and I and
when he but at the same time, that's who the
guy's been. I mean there are times where I often think,
I don't know where we're gonna end up, but it
won't be as funny funny. I don't mean to be
down like I'm the uneducated white guy right now. I
find it funny some of the stuff I just go, well,
at least I get a laugh out of this, because
it's fucking ridiculous. I mean, they're just are strange things.
That whole time, he did the whole where he's mimicking
the the female weightlifter and the reporter. But the female weightlifter,
I think I played it for you. It's like, I mean,
it's like, who does this? You are the president. There's
like he's just like, you know what I'm saying. You know,
like this three years. Let me take it to a
more local level. But even I'll try to make it universal.
If your kid goes to a private school, well I'll
give my experience, but Kevin's kids go to Aquinas, another
very fine institution in our area. But if your kid
goes to a private school, a lot of times it
seems to open different doors for them. And I noticed
it in my own household. One went to private, one
did not. Sixteen months apart applied for the same jobs.
You had the name of that school on there you
were getting in. Why, because you're held to a higher
standard when you're in the school, and it's always those
are the nicest kids, those are the ones that are
looking in the eye. Shake your hand, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am,
yes or no, sir, whatever, Right, Okay, that's what the
presidence he used to me as well, And I'm just
saying it's not And so I get it. You're upset
that Laura said that, But clearly, why why would you
care if that he said that? Because we know it's
not true just by looking at what happened. That's all.
That's all. And in the beginning it might have been
he was like the frat boys were going crazy like
because it was funny.
Speaker 3: But I understand where he's coming from.
Speaker 2: I totally, we're I know, but my point is to
understand where he's coming from, but not know the why.
To me, he's yelling into a void and it's not
doing anything. And to then give me a bunch of
data on black voters, Hispanic voter, it makes no sense.
You're bringing a spreadsheet to what has become a bar
fight simply because it's whose side are you on? And
it's not the why did you vote for this way?
Or why would you say something like that?
Speaker 3: I get No, I get that, and get that.
Speaker 2: That's my bigger point with this.
Speaker 3: And when you when you when you message a talk
show host, you're not just gonna go why did she
think that?
Speaker 2: No, get back to me. I'm not. But I agree
with you. I agree with you. I agree because I
have some thoughts, right, But I agree with you. I
get it, you know and that and hey man, you
have to make if you have to make your point.
Let me say the other thing. I appreciate the fact
that this guy listened, yes, took the time to write,
and and I think will allow me to respond and
I expect a response from him. He may not agree
with me, and that's fine. Just keep listening. I love it.
That's all.
Speaker 3: That's why we have these discussions.
Speaker 2: Kevin today, closest to the pin. Were you getting text
messages to No?
Speaker 4: Okay, I was just trying to figure some stuff out, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Kevin has the closest to the pit. We will
go head to head me and Danny see who can
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listen to your podcast. You were talking about James James
Dean's Porsche or Porsche, and I said, if they could,
where did it go after he went over the cliff?
It's not still there. Somebody's got it. And I go
that thing would be worth millions of dollars, but nobody
knows where it is, and you just take it even
to grumble up. Somebody's gonna pay.
Speaker 4: Does Lou have it?
Speaker 2: I'll never know because I was not allowed to go
to the garage. He wouldn't tell me where it was.
It he was afraid I was gonna say it, like
he doesn't want people to know where his garage is
in the city. Well, I don't blame him. Like, but
this person says the urban legend I had never heard
of this is that the car was parted out for
the racing parts, and the people that installed them on
their cars died or wrecked in their so to fucking
yes car. This I'm saying, cursed car Yes died erecked
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little bit of information from the car nerd. Yeah, that
is I love that I did not know. There you go.
Here's the other question I had.
Speaker 4: Race and Randy is still the catalytic converter.
Speaker 2: Race and Randy I feel bad? Have you talked to him?
Speaker 3: I talked to him a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2: There's no bad, so I said. I talked a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 3: Ago because I wanted to get his take for the
Times on Michael Jordan's team winning the first three races.
And he's he's he's gone conspiratorial on the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, Terrrist Rutgerd just announced he's now part owner Jimmy
Johnson's team.
Speaker 4: Oh there's two brothers in NASCAR now.
Speaker 3: So well three if you cut Bubba Wallace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bubba Wallace is the driver.
Speaker 3: But like like Tyler Redicks won for the of the
first five races, and Randy thing, this guy, this guy
wasn't a big double four. All of sudden hes went
all these races.
Speaker 2: How this happened?
Speaker 3: What was at that court case? I think they're letting them.
So Randy's starting to think his own sport is rigged.
Now that's the latest from uh from Newark.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, well, I'm sure he is.
Speaker 4: I just I have not Oh, for the love of Christ,
let the goddamn le go.
Speaker 2: All right. I'm sorry. It's just that, you know, I'm
just trying to look over this way, Danny there you go.
Uh No, I don't know. I I get once why
I called him one day and goes everybody. We just
haven't talked a while, and I feel bad, and I
haven't had him on the podcast, and I think that
he's feeling a little neglected, is all. And I really
like I really like Randy, and that's uh. And he
is a great guy. I have a question for Dan,
and I may be stepping into something here, but I
even I ask you this, no, no, no, no no. When
we when I read the Tom thing at the end
of it, you said, but I know what he means.
And I'm going to ask you this why.
Speaker 3: Because I think a lot of Trump voters have been typecasts.
So he heard the type cast part well, instead of
the context of the conversation.
Speaker 2: My question would be so calling them ignorant, white or
uneducated white men you feel as a reflection on you.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think it's a reflection on me. Do
you know if I voted for Trump or not?
Speaker 2: No, Well, I don't know, you're no.
Speaker 3: No, I understand where he's come from, because would you
feel like I think there are a lot of men
in this country who are let's just put it this way,
white heterosexual men who now feel like they've become maligned
by certain media groups and groups in general just for
being who they are. Their opinion is just as valid
as everybody else. But in order to you know, it
was a great tactic during the twenty twenty election of
one side smear like notly just take you what Trump did,
but also inventing things that Trump didn't do, and then
smearing him with all these names and things. And then
he's like even Hillary said a basket of deplorables. So
they've been at this game since twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,
So I understand where he's coming from. If he voted for.
Speaker 2: No, I got it. I got it. About what I'm
saying is here's okay, I got it, But the basket
is de plorable stuff. I mean, I would think most
people would see the behavior and hear the stuff and go,
I don't want this guy, but we are where we are.
My only thing when somebody says that because I am
I don't know if you know this, I'm a middle
aged white man of the age that people complain about
and stuff me too, And I don't have any feeling
about it whatsoever. And I don't know why. I understand
their anger and upsetment. I take it as anger and upsetment.
I hear it, and I think, I don't know. I
didn't choose it. I didn't choose to be a white guy.
I didn't. I don't think that I'm conscious of. I
didn't choose to be white guy. Didn't choose to be
the son of people who went to college and got masters.
I didn't choose that. I don't believe chose that. There
are people who tell you, well, you made a contract, Okay,
Well I don't remember any of that if that's the case.
So when I hear that, I just kind of go,
it's painting with a broadbrush, because I could turn around
and say the same thing about somebody else. But what
is that gonna do? Like I could say that about
that whatever group the other person is so.
Speaker 3: Nobody's got their nerves and he probably felt like someone
stepped on a nerve.
Speaker 2: No, I get it, But I'm wondering, like I often
question Dan, And I mean, this, is there something wrong
with me? Because I don't get bothered by those types
of things, Because I could turn around and say from
the person who did it, I could all of a
sudden get down in the mud and go, well, you
guys are all blah blah blah everyone who represents you,
and I just don't care because it's a waste of
my fucking time. But then I start to go, is
there something And I mean this, I'm not even kidding,
when is there something wrong with me that I don't
get upset? And I just go, who gives a shit?
Speaker 3: I don't think anything's wrong with you. I think you
look at things different. I think you major. There's this
thing called majoring on the miners. And I think we
in America we have it so flip and good that
we have the luxury to major on the miners and
cavetch and wine and cry and complain about opinions. We
live at the top of Mavlov's hierarchy of needs, so
we have this luxury to whine, and now we could
do it online where it sits forever. At could plain
and be heard not and every time we're heard, we
get a dopamine hit, and then we have to keep
raising it right, And that's all it is. You're like,
I got my own problems. Well, I think there are
some things you could pay better attention to, but that's
but you got other issues that I don't have.
Speaker 2: Hang on a second, what no, I mean, I'm I'm
teasing you. But what I was going to say is
it's not that I don't hear and see it and
understand it. And also I can sort of go, I
see where you're coming from and your point, and I
know why you say this sort of thing, and I
can also see why people get pissed off about this.
But to me, it's like, it's not about the group,
it's about individuals. If we're really going to talk right,
the dog in this country, so we paint with a
broad brush like all whatever is this and all whatever
is that, and it's not. It's just not. You know,
I couldn't say like all white people are the same,
they're not. So well, we could say that about any
and we should say that about any ethnic group or
any any minority oppressed feeling group at all, they're not.
And not everybody's the same, Not everybody agrees with that.
So when I hear that, I just go, all right,
maybe you're talking about being maybe you're not, but I
don't even give two fucks to care enough to burn it.
I'll listen to you, I'll hear you. Okay, Yeah, I
guess I'm part of the problem, but but I don't
take it that way. It's I'm part of the problem
because just like the people that say to me when
when they get upset and they hear different things about
you know, slavery and oppression, I didn't do it, well, no,
but it was people that looked like that did and
got us sort of to the point where we are
today in essence, in essence, and I go, but you're right,
you didn't do it. And just like these people, I
didn't do it.
Speaker 3: But if you go back further than that, there are
white people who had endured the same thing. There's nothing
knowing in the sun you. But my point is I'm
with you, like I just I don't get into that stuff.
Like I love my mother dearly, she's getting up in age.
I want to call her more often. You and you
want know why, Yeah, because her, her husband, my stepdad
in the background, has to jump on the conversation and
make it a political discussion. Well I just want to
talk about how she's doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't.
Speaker 3: She does. She has to put it out speakers so
the whole roope can hear it.
Speaker 2: She's one of those all right now. But but but
what's your.
Speaker 3: Point though, is like I, yeah, I try to be
above all that too, because Twitter, like Twitter basically governs
the media really because they look at it because they're
all on Twitter. But Twitter is only like a fraction
of a fraction of percentage of the American public. So
we can't let the tails wag the dog. But that's
what social media is. And we're all the strings of
the end of the strings of those puppet masters. You
gotta cut the strings, let it go. Well, remember when
we were your battles, wisely, but.
Speaker 2: Remember when we were even in radio, and there would
be all this shit and I just see like, yeah, whatever, all.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, and you wait until the most opportune time
to address something. But for the most part, we try
to stay above it because there's no point.
Speaker 2: No. But my thing was like even the meetings is
of when people would rip on the guy who was
doing it and they'd mimic him. They do all this shit,
and I saw what they were doing. I got why
they did it, but I felt like there were some
real values. So I would just sit there, take what
I thought was valuable, and walk away and not give
a shit, right because I just didn't. I didn't care.
And that's how I've been pretty much my entire life.
Is I see it, I understand it. I totally get it.
I see what you guys are getting bothered by. I
see what you're making fun of. But there's value. Here's
how I'm going to take it.
Speaker 3: But the thing is, though, is that where Tom might
be coming from and what he heard, he probably has
a little bit of rabbit ears because of what he
heard from last air. But here's the thing, though, when
a certain group wants to attack another group, they want
to humanize them. You do that one step at a time,
and then by calling them like uneducated white man, now
you're categorizing a group of people to take it to
chip away at them, So now they're an easier target.
Every time you say that, it becomes easier to look
on them. Then it becomes accepting.
Speaker 2: No, this becomes my bigger thing. This is where I go.
Fucking get a self esteem. No, I agree with you,
white man, get some fucking self esteem. Do you think
they're talking about you? Because if you're an uneducated white man,
maybe they are. Maybe they are, and then you got
a right to be pissed. But if you're not an
uneducated worry about it. And you went and who gives
a shit? Don't worry about I don't give a fuck.
And so that that's where I go. But that comes
back to a self esteem issue, and that's the thing
that we talk about all all the time. And to me,
that's the biggest problem. It's the biggest problem with kids,
because everybody, how did fucking Hitler get into power. You
got a country that was defeated in a war, and
young embarrassed and embarrassed, right, and young men that were
looking for a leader.
Speaker 3: And there's a vacuum in nature hates vacuating.
Speaker 2: And watch the manosphere on Netflix. Watch all the hell
these got because people were looking for a leader. They're
lost out there. Why because they don't have anything inside?
And no one showed them how to find their own
fucking value. You are worthy, you are this, You're not
that guy. So who gives a shit what they say?
If they're that fucking powerful, are they? Are they in
your home? Are they sharing Thanksgiving with you? Who gives
a fuck?
Speaker 3: Yeah? There's there's an episode of Uh Sopranos where it's
Columbus Day and they're all pissed off that the Native
Americans are protesting Columbus, Right, and then Tony finally goes,
He goes, we're happening to our self esteem. He goes,
did you get anything in your life because you're Italian? No,
because you have brains, because you have balls, because you're smart,
not because you're Italian?
Speaker 2: Right, He goes, who cares? Right? And that's kind of
my point with it. That's all all right, Sorry you
asked no, No, no, I did, No, I did. I was
saying sorry to Kevin because he's got the game and
we got to go. But the lighting. Kevin looks so
good in that lighting you do. That's great lighting.
Speaker 4: Huh, it's gonna lit myself. Don't give a fuck about
you people.
Speaker 2: It might be true, I don't know. Closest to the pin.
All right, with the new MLB season about to kick off,
you're gonna win their third straight World Series title. What
year was the first MLB game played outside the United States? Oh?
What year was it first played outside the Wait? Major
League Baseball?
Speaker 4: Major League Baseball?
Speaker 2: Okay, the regular season or spring training? Major League Baseball,
don't care about spring training. Didn't say spring training?
Speaker 3: It's okay, regular season game.
Speaker 2: Outside the United States. Outside of the United States? Yeah, okay,
Well what year? Oh god, I don't know I'm saying
this year, and I don't think I'm that far off,
but go ahead.
Speaker 4: Who among us does not like a nice rack?
Speaker 2: What year was the first breast augmentation using silicone implants? Okay,
so they used to be like. I remember watching the
CEO of a big company get buzzed and start talking
about the first time he felt fake tits and they
felt like cement, And I go, oh, my god, she
must have been like a pigeon and or no, like
a statue. And I remember one of my other bosses
giving me a look, and I goes, that's exactly what
it was, like. I go, well, she stood there long enough,
pigeons was coming shit on her. He was so drunk.
He fucking laughed forever and loved me. But they were
getting really uncomfortable because I said that. So the first
silicone implants got a year dandy, I think so Silicone Valley,
Silicon Valley. Oh, I hate this. I've been right down
the year. I want to change it so bad, but
I'm gonna to write in parenthesees is. John Hyatt moved
to Nashville, Tennessee at the age of eighteen, taking a
job as a songwriter for a Tree Music publishing company.
How much was he paid per week?
Speaker 4: Math over there, No, I'm taking a tax on what
you're doing.
Speaker 2: I'm keeping I'm putting like my original thought, like my
knee jerk response, and putting in parentheses, and then I'm
writing the other one down, just to see if I
can get it, if I can get it right, All right,
go on. Tom Arnold is playing the Kevin Media Room
this weekend at Comedy to Carlson and was famously married
to Roseanne bar for four years. How many episodes of
the television show Roseanne were made?
Speaker 3: Wait a minute with him or without him?
Speaker 4: Just the episode of just Television shown?
Speaker 3: Are we talking about?
Speaker 2: Okay, we're talking about Roseanne. Were you a fan?
Speaker 3: I watched it. I wasn't a fan, but I watched
it to watch. But it's the show stopped and then
they rebooted it again.
Speaker 2: It wasn't called Roseanne when they rebooted, No, it was.
Speaker 4: It wasn't. It's called the Connors.
Speaker 3: The Connors came after she got fired for making a
comment about.
Speaker 2: Did they ever Oh she did die, they did, but no, no, no,
Dan died.
Speaker 3: Dan died on the show, and then they killed her
off when they rebooted the show, and then they called
it the Connors. So there was a Roseanne, then there
was a Roseanne reboot, and then they'd rename it the
Connors because they had to kill her off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm trying to remember if she that Actually okay,
they did air. Those episodes did hit the air. Oh
oh yeah, okay, all right, math here, God damn it.
I don't even know how many years the show was on.
Speaker 3: They acted like the last season never happened.
Speaker 2: I never watched. I don't know why it.
Speaker 3: Was on Tuesday nights at nine.
Speaker 2: And that's why Tuesdays nights at nine, I think I
was in college Tuesday night.
Speaker 3: Who's the Boss was on a day A right, I
got it.
Speaker 2: Go ahead. When the Museum of Modern Art opened to
New York City in nineteen twenty nine, how many pieces
were displayed in the inaugural exhibition? How many pieces in
nineteen twenty nine? How many pieces of art were in
the inaugural display at the Museum of Modern Art in
nineteen twenty nine when it opened. Okay, and last, but
not least, how many members are currently in the United Nations? O.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's gonna be one less after I've done. Dude,
they will see how powerful you people are.
Speaker 2: Um, I'm an uneducated Wigan. Uh you win. Currently.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like that time when Sammie Watkins was
ripping on certain bills fans who ripped on him? Yes,
And I'm like, are you what he's talking about? No,
he's talking about Heckler's.
Speaker 2: All right, so what do we Okay, so we'll go
back to the back at the top, which, by the way,
he wasn't trunk. Was the first MLB game played outside
the United States?
Speaker 3: I want to say seventy six because Toronto.
Speaker 2: All right. I couldn't remember when Toronto. No, I was
trying to remember when the Montreal expos came into existence?
Were they before or after?
Speaker 3: You're the same year?
Speaker 2: They were the same year? I you, seventy six does
not sound like a bad gas, I said, nineteen sixty three.
Blue Jays came into existence in the seventy seven, But
it's nineteen sixty nine with the Montreal exposed sixty nine. Okay,
all right, so I'm off by six there.
Speaker 3: Off by seven.
Speaker 2: Can't We're close? What year was the first breast augmentation
using silicone implants performed?
Speaker 3: I said nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 2: I said nineteen seventy one. It is nineteen sixty two. Ooh, aight, okay.
How much did John Hyatt make writing songs at Tree
Music Publishing Company? All right, my original guest was eighteen
dollars a week?
Speaker 3: Now I was twenty five dollars a week.
Speaker 2: I wrote twenty three.
Speaker 4: It is twenty five dollars a week.
Speaker 2: Wow, Damny?
Speaker 3: Sorry?
Speaker 2: How many seasons of Roseanne? Let me take that back.
Speaker 4: How many episodes of Roseanne were made?
Speaker 3: I said to sixty. But I'm wondering if we're gonna
have to have a flag on this one.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't even know how long the
show ran. I said one hundred and forty six.
Speaker 4: It's two hundred and thirty running over ten.
Speaker 2: I just lost right there because I lost it.
Speaker 3: It was ten seasons. I had nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even remember. I remember people loving it.
I just I never watched it.
Speaker 3: Well, it embraced it embraced the idea of that lower
Miles family.
Speaker 2: What's that on educated white people? I don't know, trum Trump,
I don't know. I just I just it was on when.
Speaker 3: She brought the show back, she talked about how they
would be Trump voters and today.
Speaker 2: All right, so I think I lost right. How many
pieces in the inaugural display it the museum? Amount of art?
Speaker 4: Would it opened in nineteen twenty nine?
Speaker 2: What did you say, Daniel?
Speaker 3: I said eight?
Speaker 2: Oh, that's probably better, guess I said, twenty six? It
is ninety? Oh oh wow, okay, all right, it did
start with eight. The museum was originally owned eight pieces
in one dry, eight paintings in one dry. So Dan,
what did you say? Nine?
Speaker 3: I said eight?
Speaker 2: Oh, Well the display was display all.
Speaker 3: Right, So it's the answer is ninety right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: But how many members are currently in the United Nations? Eleven?
In the I asked come back. You have no idea.
I have absolutely no clue.
Speaker 3: Number down I did, but I have only so many countries, Billy, No,
I know there's so they were going to create a
new one in I ran all right.
Speaker 2: But I went I went like, well, it's going to
be awest the United States. I said, thirty six.
Speaker 4: You just got your ass kicked one hundred and ninety three.
Speaker 3: Right there, you go, I win again. Well, I batter Danny.
Speaker 2: No, I that wasn't real. But I knew I was
losing anyway, because I couldn't come back from the Roseanne one.
There was no way. No, I don't think so, because
I was already like, you could have ninety. You could
have hit the pin on the on the last two. Uh,
what was the second to last one?
Speaker 4: The ninety for the museum, I would have no idea
that one.
Speaker 2: I would have no idea. On the Modern or nineteen
twenty nine when it opened up, I would have no idea.
And then better and then the other I was. I
actually wrote down one hundred and twelve. I just said
thirty six because I figured I'm gonna fuck I lose anyway.
And if Dandy says one hundred and whatever, I'll go
to the opposite then maybe maybe because these things go
and I'm a non educated white guy, what am I
gonna do? That's it? All right? Well, Danny nice win,
very good. I got it. Before you leave. I want
to try something with the light before you leave. We
don't have to do it right now. That's all for
Kevin Mule. Another good game, Kevin. I enjoy those. I
actually miss closest.
Speaker 3: I know you're right, miss what you do.
Speaker 2: At the courthouse, Well, then go do it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm working on it. We got revamped. We
got a couple of new stuff.
Speaker 2: Though new questions. Yeah, okay, all right, I'll work no bills.
Speaker 3: I just went and executed it.
Speaker 2: It I did it. Sometimes. Let let let don't let
you out here get some questions about twenty twenty eight
when he has twenty minutes of free time. That's not true.
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna run a group on it next week.
Speaker 2: I think I still have do what's doing in group?
Speaker 4: What's doing in group therapy?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'll even group on You should do that. What's
doing a group therapy? That'd be great. You guess what
disease do you have?
Speaker 2: I now I regret telling that story like I was
a douche. Do you love it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a mental health Catholic supposed to be confidentible.
Speaker 2: I didn't talk about anybody. I talked about a group
that I led in the in the theme of it, but
I didn't.
Speaker 4: Talk we want to play what you do in a
group therapy?
Speaker 2: I didn't even I didn't even see what you're here for?
What's cut you down? All right? All right? For Dan?
How do the Yankees do it? Uh?
Speaker 3: It's no score. They just started. There was a there's
a rain delay.
Speaker 2: Okay, where're you going? Because play baseball?
Speaker 3: Marco San Francisco.
Speaker 2: I know, but it's on Prime Netflix. It's on Netflix
to Netflix tonight. Okay for Dan BURRELLO. For Kevin Mueller,
I'm Bill Moran. See you next name. It must the
bean that doesn't know the workings. It wasn't wanting