Speaker 1: This is later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast.
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Speaker 2: You know him note most as the architect of the
Speaker 2: Contract with America back in nineteen ninety four. Since then,
Speaker 2: Newt Gingrich is an historian, Fox contributor and author for
Speaker 2: the New York Times bestsellers Beyond Biden, Rebuilding the America
Speaker 2: We Love and Trump The American Future, Solving great Problems
Speaker 2: of our time. Mister speaker, welcome the big question. How
Speaker 2: did the polls get it so wrong?
Speaker 3: Well, I think they keep trying to force us back
Speaker 3: into a world that's disappearing. The fact is that there
Speaker 3: is an underlying shift towards Republicans away from liberal Democrats.
Speaker 3: It's been going on for a good while now. And
Speaker 3: I think there's a a guy named Seth Kesser who
Speaker 3: just studies voter registration and pointed out that in every
Speaker 3: one of the swing states, every single one registration had
Speaker 3: gone up for Republicans and down for Democrats. And he
Speaker 3: just said the idea that you have this underlying pattern,
Speaker 3: sort of like a glacier, just steadily moving towards the
Speaker 3: Republican party, and that that's not going to have an effect.
Speaker 3: And I think the polsters tended to often want to
Speaker 3: ask the wrong questions. And two, my hunch is that
Speaker 3: Republicans are less likely to talk to pollsters. But it's
Speaker 3: very hard to get a poll of Republicans because in fact,
Speaker 3: they are very very disinclined that they don't trust the polls.
Speaker 3: And one guy, a friend of mine, his brother, got
Speaker 3: a polling question, went through and answered every single question
Speaker 3: is always for Trump. And they said, at the answer
Speaker 3: of your voting point, he said, I'm voting for Harris.
Speaker 3: And my friend said to his brother, why did you
Speaker 3: tell him that? I said, I just want to mess
Speaker 3: with their head.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, that's the other thing. I think Republicans
Speaker 2: and conservatives don't want to say they're voting for Trump
Speaker 2: because they don't want to get shot at.
Speaker 3: Well. I do think there's a there is a continuous
Speaker 3: media suppression. When you look at the most one sided,
Speaker 3: dishonest news media coverage in my lifetime, which is what
Speaker 3: the last month was like. Yeah, if they had had
Speaker 3: a neutral news media, I suspect that Kamala would have
Speaker 3: lost by ten to fifteen points. But they did everything
Speaker 3: they did there's a study that ninety percent of her
Speaker 3: coverage was positive and ninety percent of Trump's coverage was negative.
Speaker 3: And that's a total disservice to the American people to
Speaker 3: have your news media sell out and basically become just
Speaker 3: a propaganda arm.
Speaker 2: Do you think the news media as we know it
Speaker 2: is done?
Speaker 3: I think the podcasts and talk radio and people on
Speaker 3: substate back and all the different things that are emerging
Speaker 3: in there's a great new article about how Baron Trump,
Speaker 3: who's you know, I think the nineteen now, was guiding
Speaker 3: his father on which podcast to do in order to
Speaker 3: reach young people. And you know, when you go in
Speaker 3: Joe Rogan and the last number I saw was eighty
Speaker 3: million bus suspect us higher. Now, when eighty million people
Speaker 3: tune into a three hour podcast, you're really having an impact.
Speaker 3: Of course, JD. Evans did the same podcast, and now
Speaker 3: I got two blocks of three hours being listened to
Speaker 3: by tens of millions of people that dwarfs network television.
Speaker 2: Newt Gingrich is with Us, a former Speaker of the House,
Speaker 2: also best selling author of the New York Times bestsellers
Speaker 2: Beyond Biden, Rebuilding the America We Love and Trump The
Speaker 2: American future, solving the great problems of our time. I
Speaker 2: saw it too, mister speaker, when I noticed not only
Speaker 2: the early voting numbers here in Oklahoma, but also the
Speaker 2: early voting numbers elsewhere. And I thought to myself, when
Speaker 2: people when this many people vote early, they're motivated, they're empowered,
Speaker 2: and they want change.
Speaker 3: You know, people have talking about how the Democrats are
Speaker 3: going to have this great turnout mechanism. And I was
Speaker 3: reminded of the story of the ad agency that had
Speaker 3: a crisis meeting because they had a client who was
Speaker 3: not able to sell their product, and they were brainstorming
Speaker 3: and turned out to be a dog food product, and
Speaker 3: finally one of the guys broke in and said, guys,
Speaker 3: the dogs don't like the dog food. They won't eat it. Well,
Speaker 3: the problem for Commona was she wasn't competent. She was
Speaker 3: too far to the left, and you could tell watching her,
Speaker 3: and you say to yourself, we live in a dangerous world.
Speaker 3: We have a war in Ukraine, or war in the
Speaker 3: Middle East, the Chinese and the Communists threatening Taiwan. Do
Speaker 3: we think she's capable of being commander in Chi And
Speaker 3: people just say no, Well, then you go to them
Speaker 3: and say why don't you turn on and vote? And
Speaker 3: they say, are you crazy? So what was happening was
Speaker 3: a significant chunk actually shifting to Trump. He did better
Speaker 3: with African American males and any Republican history. He did
Speaker 3: better among the Latinas. He got forty six percent of
Speaker 3: the Latino vote, highest in history for a Republican. He
Speaker 3: got the highest Asian American vote. So things were moving
Speaker 3: and they were moving away from her. And when that happens,
Speaker 3: if you don't have a message, and you don't have
Speaker 3: a messenger, there's no mechanism that can turn people out
Speaker 3: to vote.
Speaker 2: Mister speaker, a new Gangritch is with us on the drive.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I was also surprised about.
Speaker 2: It seems to me that the Obama heights that are
Speaker 2: behind the scene and have been running not only Obama's administration,
Speaker 2: but Biden's administration and now Kamala, they're usually sharper than this.
Speaker 2: They usually have a better idea than a Kamala. What
Speaker 2: do you think? What do you think was going on
Speaker 2: behind the scenes here with the Podestas of the world.
Speaker 3: You know, I had a friend one time who talking
Speaker 3: about Reagan and the people who had advised Reagan, and
Speaker 3: he said, you know, when Jack Dempsey was the greatest
Speaker 3: fighter in the world, the guys in the corner of
Speaker 3: the handle and thought they knew a lot about boxing.
Speaker 3: The fact is, when you have a Ronald Reagan, when
Speaker 3: you have a Donald Trump, when you have a Barack
Speaker 3: Obama or a Bill Clinton, their sheer talent makes the
Speaker 3: people around them look really good. And by the way,
Speaker 3: I'm not taking anything away from Susie Wilds or Chris
Speaker 3: Losovita or that entire team. I think they may have
Speaker 3: run the most impressive presidential campaign of modern times, but
Speaker 3: because they were doing it against the media. I mean,
Speaker 3: the great thing Obama had, of course, was the media
Speaker 3: loved him. They adored him. They did everything they could
Speaker 3: to turn him into a national figure and to hide
Speaker 3: his weaknesses. So I think that's part of what's going on.
Speaker 3: But I also think that they had bad policies. The
Speaker 3: bad policies had produced bad outcomes. I told people when
Speaker 3: they had the first presidential debate that I didn't actually
Speaker 3: care what happened at the debate because the next morning,
Speaker 3: people go to the grocery store and get mad yep,
Speaker 3: and then they get to fill up their car and
Speaker 3: get mad, and by the end of the day they'd
Speaker 3: be so mad at the Democrats. Whatever happened today would
Speaker 3: just disappear, would be around, and that's exactly what was
Speaker 3: going on. People just you know, you'd see a news
Speaker 3: story about our legal immigrant raping a five year old
Speaker 3: on Long Island and you'd think, you know, this is
Speaker 3: just sick and it has to stop.
Speaker 2: That's pretty much what I told our Senator James Langford
Speaker 2: last time I spoke with him. I said, your grocery
Speaker 2: receipt is the best advertisement for a Republican ticket than
Speaker 2: anything else. Mister Speaker knew. Geningrich glad to have you
Speaker 2: on again. Go and look for his books Beyond Biden,
Speaker 2: Rebuilding the America we Love and Trump the American Future,
Speaker 2: Solving the great problems of our time. We thank you
Speaker 2: for the books and for joining us.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
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