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<v Speaker 1>This is later with Lee Matthews the Lee Matthews Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>More what you hear Weekday, Have to Do is on

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<v Speaker 1>the Drive.

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<v Speaker 2>You know him note most as the architect of the

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<v Speaker 2>Contract with America back in nineteen ninety four. Since then,

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<v Speaker 2>Newt Gingrich is an historian, Fox contributor and author for

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Times bestsellers Beyond Biden, Rebuilding the America

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<v Speaker 2>We Love and Trump The American Future, Solving great Problems

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<v Speaker 2>of our time. Mister speaker, welcome the big question. How

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<v Speaker 2>did the polls get it so wrong?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think they keep trying to force us back

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<v Speaker 3>into a world that's disappearing. The fact is that there

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<v Speaker 3>is an underlying shift towards Republicans away from liberal Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been going on for a good while now. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think there's a a guy named Seth Kesser who

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<v Speaker 3>just studies voter registration and pointed out that in every

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<v Speaker 3>one of the swing states, every single one registration had

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<v Speaker 3>gone up for Republicans and down for Democrats. And he

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<v Speaker 3>just said the idea that you have this underlying pattern,

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<v Speaker 3>sort of like a glacier, just steadily moving towards the

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<v Speaker 3>Republican party, and that that's not going to have an effect.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the polsters tended to often want to

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<v Speaker 3>ask the wrong questions. And two, my hunch is that

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<v Speaker 3>Republicans are less likely to talk to pollsters. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>very hard to get a poll of Republicans because in fact,

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<v Speaker 3>they are very very disinclined that they don't trust the polls.

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<v Speaker 3>And one guy, a friend of mine, his brother, got

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<v Speaker 3>a polling question, went through and answered every single question

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<v Speaker 3>is always for Trump. And they said, at the answer

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<v Speaker 3>of your voting point, he said, I'm voting for Harris.

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<v Speaker 3>And my friend said to his brother, why did you

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<v Speaker 3>tell him that? I said, I just want to mess

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<v Speaker 3>with their head.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, that's the other thing. I think Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>and conservatives don't want to say they're voting for Trump

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<v Speaker 2>because they don't want to get shot at.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. I do think there's a there is a continuous

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<v Speaker 3>media suppression. When you look at the most one sided,

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<v Speaker 3>dishonest news media coverage in my lifetime, which is what

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<v Speaker 3>the last month was like. Yeah, if they had had

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<v Speaker 3>a neutral news media, I suspect that Kamala would have

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<v Speaker 3>lost by ten to fifteen points. But they did everything

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<v Speaker 3>they did there's a study that ninety percent of her

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<v Speaker 3>coverage was positive and ninety percent of Trump's coverage was negative.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's a total disservice to the American people to

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<v Speaker 3>have your news media sell out and basically become just

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<v Speaker 3>a propaganda arm.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think the news media as we know it

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<v Speaker 2>is done?

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<v Speaker 3>I think the podcasts and talk radio and people on

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<v Speaker 3>substate back and all the different things that are emerging

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<v Speaker 3>in there's a great new article about how Baron Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>who's you know, I think the nineteen now, was guiding

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<v Speaker 3>his father on which podcast to do in order to

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<v Speaker 3>reach young people. And you know, when you go in

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Rogan and the last number I saw was eighty

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<v Speaker 3>million bus suspect us higher. Now, when eighty million people

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<v Speaker 3>tune into a three hour podcast, you're really having an impact.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, JD. Evans did the same podcast, and now

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<v Speaker 3>I got two blocks of three hours being listened to

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<v Speaker 3>by tens of millions of people that dwarfs network television.

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<v Speaker 2>Newt Gingrich is with Us, a former Speaker of the House,

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<v Speaker 2>also best selling author of the New York Times bestsellers

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<v Speaker 2>Beyond Biden, Rebuilding the America We Love and Trump The

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<v Speaker 2>American future, solving the great problems of our time. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw it too, mister speaker, when I noticed not only

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<v Speaker 2>the early voting numbers here in Oklahoma, but also the

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<v Speaker 2>early voting numbers elsewhere. And I thought to myself, when

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<v Speaker 2>people when this many people vote early, they're motivated, they're empowered,

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<v Speaker 2>and they want change.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, people have talking about how the Democrats are

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<v Speaker 3>going to have this great turnout mechanism. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>reminded of the story of the ad agency that had

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<v Speaker 3>a crisis meeting because they had a client who was

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<v Speaker 3>not able to sell their product, and they were brainstorming

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<v Speaker 3>and turned out to be a dog food product, and

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<v Speaker 3>finally one of the guys broke in and said, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>the dogs don't like the dog food. They won't eat it. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>the problem for Commona was she wasn't competent. She was

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<v Speaker 3>too far to the left, and you could tell watching her,

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<v Speaker 3>and you say to yourself, we live in a dangerous world.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a war in Ukraine, or war in the

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<v Speaker 3>Middle East, the Chinese and the Communists threatening Taiwan. Do

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<v Speaker 3>we think she's capable of being commander in Chi And

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<v Speaker 3>people just say no, Well, then you go to them

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<v Speaker 3>and say why don't you turn on and vote? And

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<v Speaker 3>they say, are you crazy? So what was happening was

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<v Speaker 3>a significant chunk actually shifting to Trump. He did better

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<v Speaker 3>with African American males and any Republican history. He did

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<v Speaker 3>better among the Latinas. He got forty six percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the Latino vote, highest in history for a Republican. He

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<v Speaker 3>got the highest Asian American vote. So things were moving

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<v Speaker 3>and they were moving away from her. And when that happens,

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't have a message, and you don't have

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<v Speaker 3>a messenger, there's no mechanism that can turn people out

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<v Speaker 3>to vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister speaker, a new Gangritch is with us on the drive.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that I was also surprised about.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems to me that the Obama heights that are

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scene and have been running not only Obama's administration,

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<v Speaker 2>but Biden's administration and now Kamala, they're usually sharper than this.

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<v Speaker 2>They usually have a better idea than a Kamala. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you think? What do you think was going on

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<v Speaker 2>behind the scenes here with the Podestas of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I had a friend one time who talking

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<v Speaker 3>about Reagan and the people who had advised Reagan, and

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<v Speaker 3>he said, you know, when Jack Dempsey was the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>fighter in the world, the guys in the corner of

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<v Speaker 3>the handle and thought they knew a lot about boxing.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact is, when you have a Ronald Reagan, when

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<v Speaker 3>you have a Donald Trump, when you have a Barack

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<v Speaker 3>Obama or a Bill Clinton, their sheer talent makes the

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<v Speaker 3>people around them look really good. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not taking anything away from Susie Wilds or Chris

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<v Speaker 3>Losovita or that entire team. I think they may have

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<v Speaker 3>run the most impressive presidential campaign of modern times, but

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<v Speaker 3>because they were doing it against the media. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>the great thing Obama had, of course, was the media

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<v Speaker 3>loved him. They adored him. They did everything they could

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<v Speaker 3>to turn him into a national figure and to hide

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<v Speaker 3>his weaknesses. So I think that's part of what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also think that they had bad policies. The

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<v Speaker 3>bad policies had produced bad outcomes. I told people when

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<v Speaker 3>they had the first presidential debate that I didn't actually

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<v Speaker 3>care what happened at the debate because the next morning,

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<v Speaker 3>people go to the grocery store and get mad yep,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they get to fill up their car and

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<v Speaker 3>get mad, and by the end of the day they'd

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<v Speaker 3>be so mad at the Democrats. Whatever happened today would

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<v Speaker 3>just disappear, would be around, and that's exactly what was

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<v Speaker 3>going on. People just you know, you'd see a news

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<v Speaker 3>story about our legal immigrant raping a five year old

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<v Speaker 3>on Long Island and you'd think, you know, this is

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<v Speaker 3>just sick and it has to stop.

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<v Speaker 2>That's pretty much what I told our Senator James Langford

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<v Speaker 2>last time I spoke with him. I said, your grocery

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<v Speaker 2>receipt is the best advertisement for a Republican ticket than

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<v Speaker 2>anything else. Mister Speaker knew. Geningrich glad to have you

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<v Speaker 2>on again. Go and look for his books Beyond Biden,

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<v Speaker 2>Rebuilding the America we Love and Trump the American Future,

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<v Speaker 2>Solving the great problems of our time. We thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for the books and for joining us.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to Later with Lee Matthews, the Lee

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