WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.680 --> 00:00:04.160 You're listening to KFI AM six forty wake Up Call 2 00:00:04.280 --> 00:00:08.199 with me Amy King on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:12.679 Good morning, I'm Amy King. 4 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:16.679 Rather sobering start to our day with the plane crash 5 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:18.920 into the Potomac. We're going to get to the latest 6 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:21.920 on all of that throughout the morning as more details 7 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:26.079 become available. Here's what's ahead on wake Up Call. No 8 00:00:26.160 --> 00:00:28.640 one is expected to have survived the crash of an 9 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:33.520 American Eagle jet with an Army black Hawk helicopter near 10 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:36.920 Reagan National Airport. Twenty eight bodies have been pulled from 11 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:39.920 the Potomac River. There were sixty four people on the 12 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:44.159 plane and three on the helicopter. ABC Stephen Portnoy's going 13 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:46.439 to be joining us in a few minutes and give 14 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:49.960 us all the latest. We just got an update from 15 00:00:50.399 --> 00:00:54.280 the officials in DC, and as I mentioned, they've changed 16 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:59.079 the search and recovery effort into the search and rescue 17 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:02.399 effort into a recovery effort, saying that they don't expect 18 00:01:02.439 --> 00:01:06.200 anyone to survive. The La City Council has delayed a 19 00:01:06.280 --> 00:01:10.760 vote on rental protections for wildfire victims. The proposal apparently 20 00:01:10.799 --> 00:01:14.640 needs more work. The protections would prevent residents from being 21 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:17.840 evicted and also prevent rent increases for a year. It 22 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:20.439 would apply to all apartments in the city of La 23 00:01:20.560 --> 00:01:24.159 The Israeli military says eight more hostages have been released 24 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:25.079 inside Gaza. 25 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:27.079 They've made their way to Israel. 26 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:30.359 The release of seven of the hostages, including five Thai nationals, 27 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:34.359 was delayed as a crowd of Palestinians surrounded the hostages 28 00:01:34.400 --> 00:01:37.640 as they were turned over to the Red Cross. Let's 29 00:01:37.640 --> 00:01:39.280 get started with some of the stories coming out of 30 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:41.959 the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Search and rescue crews 31 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:45.159 near d C have spent the night searching the frigid 32 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:48.719 Potomac River for survivors and bodies following the crash of 33 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:53.239 an American Airlines subsidiary jet and an Army helicopter BOCA. 34 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:57.040 Helicopter and the plane craft in the river east of 35 00:01:58.040 --> 00:01:59.719 the appost and the Runway three three. 36 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:03.359 Search and rescue operation has changed to a recovery operations 37 00:02:03.480 --> 00:02:03.959 at this point. 38 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:06.599 We don't believe there are any survivors from this accident, 39 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:10.719 and we have recovered twenty seven people from the plane 40 00:02:10.879 --> 00:02:12.280 and one from the helicopter. 41 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:15.199 DC Fire Chief John Donnelly says there were sixty four 42 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:17.719 people on the plane and three on the helicopter that 43 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:21.280 was out on a training mission last night. California Congressman 44 00:02:21.439 --> 00:02:24.960 Eric Swalwell says he landed at the airport about twenty 45 00:02:24.960 --> 00:02:26.479 minutes before the crash. 46 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:27.439 He didn't see it. 47 00:02:27.520 --> 00:02:29.919 He says he started learning about the collision as he 48 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:33.879 got into his car. Swalwell is on the Homeland Security Committee. 49 00:02:33.919 --> 00:02:36.080 He says it's important to learn what led to the 50 00:02:36.080 --> 00:02:39.599 collision and make sure a crowded airspace is still safe. 51 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:41.960 The Lacity Council has voted to make sure one of 52 00:02:41.960 --> 00:02:45.800 its allies is placed on the city's debris removal task Force. 53 00:02:46.199 --> 00:02:50.599 Councilwoman Emelda Padilla says her district is full of landfills 54 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:52.280 and she wants to make sure the council has a 55 00:02:52.360 --> 00:02:55.120 voice in removing waste from the wildfire sites. 56 00:02:55.240 --> 00:02:57.960 We must collaborate as one with our federal, state, and 57 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:01.039 county partners to ensure that recovery of its move with 58 00:03:01.199 --> 00:03:03.960 urgency and reflect our shared value of fairness, health, and 59 00:03:04.080 --> 00:03:05.199 environmental stewardship. 60 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:09.159 The council's vote places the Chief Legislative Analyst or a 61 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:12.879 designee from that office, on the task force. The CLA 62 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:17.879 keeps councilmembers craft or helps council members craft legislation and 63 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:26.800 analyze budget details. Dua Lipa, Billy Eilish, Billy, Joel Jack Black, 64 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:30.639 James Taylor, Paul McCartney, The Rolling Stones, and Moore have 65 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:34.159 donated items for a Grammy auction that will go to 66 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:39.159 wildfire relief. The Julians Auctions Music Cares Charity Relief auction 67 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:42.199 starts at eleven a m. Sunday at the Recording Academy 68 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:47.159 in Santa Monica and online at Juliansauctions dot Com. Sixty 69 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.560 seventh Annual Grammy Awards will take place later that day 70 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:53.599 from the Peacock Theaterancrypto dot Com arena. 71 00:03:54.400 --> 00:03:57.199 Let's say good morning to ABC's Jim Ryan. 72 00:03:57.280 --> 00:04:00.039 One of the other big things going on around the 73 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:04.800 country is, of course, deportations, which begs the question, our 74 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:07.280 churches still a sanctuary? 75 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:11.159 Well, no, that's the short answer. But they never really 76 00:04:11.199 --> 00:04:14.080 were aiming. It's always been legal for ICE agents to 77 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:16.959 go into houses of worship, or into schools, or into 78 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:21.720 women's shelters or hospitals and take people into custody if 79 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:24.519 they had evidence that those folks were in the country. Illegally, 80 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:28.120 but it's been the policy, the long standing policy that 81 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.600 those places, those sensitive areas are off limits to ICE agents, 82 00:04:31.639 --> 00:04:35.360 and so they just wasn't done previously. Well, everything's on 83 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:39.720 the table now. President Trump has taken that the sensitive 84 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:43.600 area's designation off of those places off limits that ICE 85 00:04:43.639 --> 00:04:45.920 agents are not supposed to go into, and so we 86 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:49.240 may start seeing raids in those places before too long. 87 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:51.879 But so far we haven't seen them, not. 88 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:54.079 Yet, not as far as anyone knows. There have been factories, 89 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.639 there have been workplaces, apartments and places like that where 90 00:04:57.720 --> 00:04:59.879 people have been taken into custody. We've heard about master 91 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:02.959 portations that have already begun and people being flown back 92 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:07.639 to their home countries or to Mexico. So far, no 93 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:10.959 word on whether any of these actual school rates or 94 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:13.680 hospital or church rates have taken place. 95 00:05:14.240 --> 00:05:17.759 And at this point with the deportations, is it still 96 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:21.720 focused on the criminals, as officials have said, that's what 97 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:22.680 they're going for first. 98 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:27.399 Yes, And that's what I think immigration attorneys are telling 99 00:05:27.439 --> 00:05:30.839 their clients and clients that are school districts and our 100 00:05:31.000 --> 00:05:33.680 churches that you know, don't worry about it too much. 101 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.879 I mean, at least the stated goal of Tom Homan 102 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:39.639 and the others involved in the administration on this front 103 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:42.920 is that only people who are here illegally, people who 104 00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:45.600 have committed not here illegally, but have committed other crimes 105 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:48.199 while they were here, that they will be targeted. But 106 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:52.680 you know, there's also talk of removing naturalization, about removing 107 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:56.680 birthrights citizenships. So you know, I think, again, pretty much 108 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:58.519 anything is on the table at this point, and there 109 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:02.600 are supporters for that. A poll conducted by the AP 110 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:06.639 and NORC found that about twenty percent support this new rule. 111 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:10.639 Twenty percent of Americans fifty seven though strongly or somewhat 112 00:06:10.639 --> 00:06:12.680 oppose this new policy. 113 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:15.040 Which new policy, the new. 114 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:18.720 Policy as taking away this sensitive area's designation. 115 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:20.800 That is oh okay, yeah, okay. 116 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:23.560 You had mentioned birthright citizenship, and so I didn't want 117 00:06:23.600 --> 00:06:26.920 to mix the two up because that one is that 118 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:30.600 one is on hold, and as a judge said, it's 119 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:33.639 a it violates the constitution. So they'd have to change 120 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:35.480 the constitution to eliminate that right. 121 00:06:35.560 --> 00:06:39.000 That was really clear cut. But this other other section 122 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:42.839 of policy, not law, but policy previously said don't go 123 00:06:42.879 --> 00:06:48.480 into churches, they're off limits as sanctuary. As a sanctuary churches, synagogues, temples, 124 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:52.480 whatever that house of worship might be. But yeah, you're right. 125 00:06:52.560 --> 00:06:54.839 I mean the law is the law, but policy is. 126 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:58.000 Different, okay. And how are church leaders pushing back or 127 00:06:58.040 --> 00:06:59.040 are they or can. 128 00:06:58.920 --> 00:07:02.639 They can the same way anybody else does, hire a 129 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:06.959 lawyer and you know, and make your congregations aware as 130 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:12.399 school districts. Likewise, that was reading about the San Diego 131 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:16.240 Junior College District, the community college district that is telling 132 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:20.160 its staff, no, don't allow ice agents to come into campus. 133 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:23.199 They don't have a legal authority to do so. And 134 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:27.160 our attorneys are fighting back. So yeah, they're hiring attorneys, 135 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:31.439 they're they're making their thoughts known, and meanwhile congregations and 136 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:34.199 student groups are holding demonstrations against the practice. 137 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:37.079 Yep, we've got story about that coming up in just 138 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:39.920 a matter of minutes. ABC's Jim Ryan, thank you so 139 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:42.120 much for the information. As always, we'll talk to you 140 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:42.600 again soon. 141 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:43.279 Appreciate it. 142 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:43.399 All. 143 00:07:43.480 --> 00:07:45.360 Right, let's get back to some of the stories coming 144 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:47.800 out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. As we 145 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:50.399 were just talking about immigration, a hot topic right now. 146 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:54.040 DEA agents in San Diego have been pulling double duty. 147 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:57.720 Special agent in charge of the San Diego Division, says 148 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:01.720 they're focused on their mission to stop manufacturing and distribution 149 00:08:01.879 --> 00:08:02.519 of drugs. 150 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:06.959 DEA has prioritized our drug investigations involving those violent illegal. 151 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:10.040 Criminals, but we will work with a greater visit our partnerships. 152 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:12.199 With our federal acts in order to keep Americans safe. 153 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:15.800 Agent Clark says several federal agencies are involved in the 154 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:17.360 immigration enforcement efforts. 155 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:21.360 Week, DEA has been assisting in enforcement action with our 156 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:23.240 partners from Department of Homeland Security. 157 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.439 Specifically, we were working with ICE. 158 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:29.399 Enforcement Removal Operations and Homeland Security Investigations or AHSI. 159 00:08:30.079 --> 00:08:32.440 More than forty five hundred people have been taken into 160 00:08:32.480 --> 00:08:37.440 custody and deported in the first week of President Trump's presidency. 161 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:41.159 The president says the US will use its naval base 162 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:45.879 at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, house up to thirty thousand illegal immigrants. 163 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:50.759 Online Security Secretary Christy Noam says the administration is still 164 00:08:50.799 --> 00:08:53.320 figuring out how to make that all work. That is 165 00:08:53.399 --> 00:08:55.440 something that the White House is working on to use 166 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:58.279 resources that we currently have there at Guantanamo Base, so 167 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:03.440 it will go through the process. The facility has been 168 00:09:03.519 --> 00:09:07.240 used for decades to hold detained migrants. A plan to 169 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:10.919 freeze rents and block some evictions in la has stalled. 170 00:09:10.960 --> 00:09:13.720 City council members engaged in a heated debate, with some 171 00:09:13.759 --> 00:09:16.639 members saying others were using the wildfires to push their 172 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:20.480 political agendas. Councilman John Lee says victims of the Palisades 173 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.159 fire need help, but not at the expense of property 174 00:09:23.159 --> 00:09:25.799 owners all over the city. Let's focus on doing that 175 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:29.799 in a way that doesn't harm housing providers and discourage 176 00:09:29.879 --> 00:09:34.399 investment in the very housing our city desperately needs. Supporters 177 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:37.480 argued their constituents may not have lost homes, but they 178 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:40.480 have lost income and jobs. The issue was sent back 179 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:44.080 to committee for consideration. Michael Monks KFI News, the. 180 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:46.440 Owner of a mansion in Malibu where a twenty two 181 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:49.399 year old college student died in a fire in the 182 00:09:49.440 --> 00:09:53.080 mansion in twenty twenty one, has filed a fifty million 183 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:56.879 dollar lawsuit against trip Advisor and two of its subsidiaries. 184 00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:00.440 The lawsuit claims Trip Advisors should have shown more care 185 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:02.879 in leasing the home to a woman who allowed more 186 00:10:02.919 --> 00:10:06.559 guests than were allowed for an event it featured potentially 187 00:10:06.679 --> 00:10:10.320 risky sky lanterns. The owner says twenty people were at 188 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:12.039 the home at the time of the fire, when there 189 00:10:12.279 --> 00:10:15.159 only should have been two. Two people have been taken 190 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:17.399 into custody after a report of a person with a 191 00:10:17.440 --> 00:10:20.039 gun at a high school in the Crenshaw area. Polise 192 00:10:20.039 --> 00:10:21.759 say they got the call about a person with the 193 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:26.120 gun at Susan Millery Dorsey Senior High School yesterday about 194 00:10:26.120 --> 00:10:29.200 ten thirty am. The report followed what appears to be 195 00:10:29.320 --> 00:10:32.840 an unrelated bomb threat at Stella High Charter Elementary in 196 00:10:32.919 --> 00:10:37.080 the West Athens area. A hospital nurse in Uganda has 197 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:40.440 died of ebola. It's the first recorded fatality since the 198 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:44.240 last outbreak ended in twenty twenty three. The nurse worked 199 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:48.440 in the capital of Kampala. Official say he developed a 200 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:51.480 fever and was treated at several locations in Uganda before 201 00:10:51.639 --> 00:10:55.440 multiple lab tests confirmed that he had ebola. Tests done 202 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:59.320 after his death found it was the Sudan strain. The 203 00:10:59.360 --> 00:11:02.519 Federal Reserve has decided to keep interest rates the same, 204 00:11:02.720 --> 00:11:05.759 despite a call from President Trump to cut them bed 205 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:09.120 chairs your own palaces. The benchmark rate charged to banks 206 00:11:09.159 --> 00:11:12.000 will remain in the four point twenty five to four 207 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:13.519 point five percent range. 208 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:16.559 For twenty twenty four. As a whole GDP looks to 209 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.919 have risen above two percent, bolstered by resilient consumer spending. 210 00:11:21.879 --> 00:11:25.679 Powell said, despite inflation remaining at an elevated level, the 211 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:30.519 economy has expanded at a solid rate. When we come back, 212 00:11:30.559 --> 00:11:33.360 we're going to be talking with ABC's Stephen Portnoy. We're 213 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:36.039 going to get the latest on the plane and helicopter 214 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:39.039 crash in Washington, d C. In which officials are now 215 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:42.799 saying they do not expect to find any survivors and 216 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:46.919 have pulled twenty eight bodies from the waters of the 217 00:11:46.960 --> 00:11:50.679 Potomac River. The world is always changing, and there's bad 218 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:52.720 things that happen, and I guess we just roll with it. 219 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:53.039 Right. 220 00:11:53.480 --> 00:11:56.159 Here's what we're following in the KFI twenty four hour 221 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:59.120 news room. A state bill to give fire victims up 222 00:11:59.120 --> 00:12:01.919 to a year of mortgage relief is moving forward in 223 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.519 the state legislature. The bill would let borrowers affected by 224 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:09.000 the fires stop paying mortgages for six months with no penalties, fees, 225 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:12.159 or interest. Their relief could be extended another six months 226 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:15.440 if the property owner requests it. Riverside County's Board of 227 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:17.960 Supervisors has passed a resolution to take a look at 228 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:21.159 how data is collected on illegal immigrants and DACA recipients. 229 00:12:21.399 --> 00:12:25.799 Supporters say it's a step towards supporting vulnerable populations. Supervisors 230 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:29.159 say it will not prevent law enforcement actions against criminals. 231 00:12:29.799 --> 00:12:32.240 US Figure Skating says a group of young skaters and 232 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:35.240 coaches were on the American Eagle flight that crashed into 233 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:38.519 the Potomac River after colliding with an Army Blackhawk helicopter 234 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:42.720 near Reagan National Airport in DC. Two former Russian world 235 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:46.600 champion skaters were also on the flight, and that brings 236 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:50.879 us to ABC's Stephen Portnoy. Good morning, Stephen. You know, 237 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:54.879 flying into Reagan National Airport one of the most picturesque 238 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:58.240 approaches I've ever seen. You fly over the Lincoln Memorial, 239 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:00.879 you see the Washington Monument. But last night it turned 240 00:13:00.919 --> 00:13:03.399 a tragedy. What happened, That's. 241 00:13:03.240 --> 00:13:05.399 What everyone wants to figure out. But it happened. At 242 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:09.279 eight forty eight pm last night, an American Eagle regional 243 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:13.399 jet inbound from Wichita, Kansas, was on a standard approach 244 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:16.919 to Runway thirty three. At the same time, an Army 245 00:13:16.960 --> 00:13:20.360 Blackhawk helicopter was conducting a training mission over the Potomac 246 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:25.600 River and the Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy last hour said 247 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:29.720 that both aircraft were on standard patterns. How it is 248 00:13:29.720 --> 00:13:31.840 that they collide it is the key question. But you're 249 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:35.320 absolutely right Amy to note how beautiful that landing is 250 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:39.480 and house house unusual it is in this day and 251 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:42.840 age to fly over these prominent buildings and at least 252 00:13:42.879 --> 00:13:45.600 see them out the window. But that is what happens. 253 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:48.120 It's all within sight of the US capital. The airport 254 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:49.840 is just across the is on the banks of the 255 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:52.480 Potomac River and just across the river from DC. It 256 00:13:52.519 --> 00:13:56.039 always has to been, of course, and you know, the 257 00:13:56.559 --> 00:14:00.200 pattern for landing is steep and you have to be 258 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:02.720 an experienced pilot to do it because of the security 259 00:14:02.759 --> 00:14:06.960 restrictions in that airspace. But also in that airspace are 260 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:10.000 a bunch of military and law enforcement helicopters that are 261 00:14:10.039 --> 00:14:13.399 constantly buzzing over the sky. You can only fly a 262 00:14:13.399 --> 00:14:17.519 helicopter if you are law enforcement or military. It's not 263 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:22.519 open to tourism or any other kind of commercial helicopter traffic. 264 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:23.639 And so. 265 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:28.519 These are supposed to be experienced pilots. In the case 266 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:30.759 of the training mission, obviously there are questions about it, 267 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:34.200 but we don't have answers. What we do know is 268 00:14:34.279 --> 00:14:38.320 this was not a survivable accident and that there were 269 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:41.600 sixty seven people whose lives seem to have been lost. 270 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:44.720 Twenty eight bodies have been recovered from the icy waters 271 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:48.240 of the Potomac. The operation could take several days. The 272 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.480 waters were about thirty six degrees at the time of 273 00:14:50.519 --> 00:14:54.360 the crash and the river had been frozen over for weeks, 274 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:57.519 but because it reached into the fifties this week, the 275 00:14:57.639 --> 00:15:02.399 thaw meant that that the rescuers can dive into the 276 00:15:02.559 --> 00:15:06.159 incredibly frigid, near freezing water. But it's not a solid 277 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:11.600 ice sheet at the top, so it's a gruesome, horrible scene. 278 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:13.759 The debris field is said to go for about four 279 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:19.120 miles south because of the current and the wind. The 280 00:15:19.159 --> 00:15:22.080 effort is to try to recover evidence and of course 281 00:15:22.159 --> 00:15:25.480 recover the victims, and so far twenty eight bodies have 282 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:28.080 been pulled out of the water. In terms of who 283 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.159 was on the plane, the US Figure Skating Championships were 284 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:33.600 just held in Wichita, Kansas, and figure skaters and their 285 00:15:33.600 --> 00:15:35.600 families and coaches were among those said to be on 286 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:37.039 board that American Eagle flight. 287 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:41.639 Yeah, and you mentioned that the debris fields about four miles. 288 00:15:41.639 --> 00:15:46.200 So did the entire plane and the helicopter both crash 289 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:48.519 into the river or do we know if some of 290 00:15:48.559 --> 00:15:50.360 it ended up on land. 291 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:55.559 Well, there's no indication that the crash happened over land. 292 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:58.840 I mean, I think what happened is that the two 293 00:15:58.919 --> 00:16:01.080 aircraft landed in the wall and that the wind and 294 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:06.840 current had blown various parts of it down downstream, and 295 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:10.080 so that's complicating the recovery effort to be sure. 296 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:13.639 Okay, And you mentioned that this was not survivable. 297 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:20.080 Survivable is that because of the water because it's so cold, 298 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:22.960 or is it just the crash was that extreme? 299 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:27.120 That is not clear, okay, But again, thirty six degree 300 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:29.039 water is not the kind of water you can live 301 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:34.240 in for very long. The rescue effort was instant. There 302 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:37.360 are rescue boats ready to go on the Potomac River, 303 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:40.440 and within let's say, ten or fifteen minutes, the boats 304 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:44.559 were already in the water looking for survivors. None were found, 305 00:16:44.600 --> 00:16:48.360 but bodies were recovered quickly and through the night. Since 306 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.200 the last eleven and a half hours they had been 307 00:16:51.240 --> 00:16:55.480 pulling bodies out more than two dozen. No survivors found. 308 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:59.039 There were initial it seems erroneous reports otherwise last night 309 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:03.240 that perhaps people had survived that those reports sadly are 310 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:03.679 not true. 311 00:17:04.519 --> 00:17:07.000 And then you mentioned that the black Hawk helicopter was 312 00:17:07.000 --> 00:17:09.759 on a training mission, and that does that raise any 313 00:17:09.799 --> 00:17:12.279 red flags or like you said, they still have to 314 00:17:12.359 --> 00:17:15.599 be super experienced pilots even if they're out on training 315 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:17.279 missions to be flying in that area. 316 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:20.720 I have no degree of insight into this beyond the 317 00:17:20.799 --> 00:17:23.480 idea that it wouldn't make a lot of sense to 318 00:17:23.559 --> 00:17:27.319 have an Army black Hawk helicopter flying in this very 319 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:33.240 secure national security space without someone who had some experience 320 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:36.440 at the controls, without the crew, the whole crew having 321 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:41.400 some experience. Now how much experience, I don't know whether 322 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:44.079 this was a you know, when you could have a 323 00:17:44.079 --> 00:17:45.759 training mission just to kind of sort of keep yourself sharp, 324 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:47.680 doesn't necessarily mean that you're doing it for the first time. 325 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:50.599 I don't know what happened, and we're going to have 326 00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:53.480 to find out, but you know, the key question is, 327 00:17:54.279 --> 00:17:56.440 and some of this there's some clues in the air 328 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:02.240 traffic control radio recording that there was a call from 329 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:05.319 the tower to the helicopter, you know, to make sure 330 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:09.079 that they saw the canadair jet coming in for a landing, 331 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:12.000 and the pilot indicated on the radio. It seems that 332 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:14.400 he did see the plane. 333 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:18.440 Ow the pilot of the helicopter, the pilot of the plane. 334 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:21.599 Pilot of the helicopter, the plane plane, the plane's going 335 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:24.519 really fast coming in for a landing, doesn't really have 336 00:18:24.640 --> 00:18:28.839 much ability to move fast. Helicopter on a different trajectory 337 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:33.759 may have more agility. And so the idea is that 338 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.079 the air traffic asked the helicopter to be sure they 339 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:42.240 saw that plane, and the response it seems it was 340 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:46.720 a yes. Now was it the right plane they were eyeing? 341 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:47.000 Oh? 342 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:48.319 I don't know. 343 00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:53.200 Yeah, I mean so bizarre because I'm assuming you've seen 344 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:55.400 the video too. But you see the video, you see 345 00:18:55.440 --> 00:18:58.839 what appears to be the you know, the I don't 346 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:00.720 know if they call him headlights on planes, but you 347 00:19:00.720 --> 00:19:03.160 see the plane, the light from the plane, and you 348 00:19:03.279 --> 00:19:06.880 see the helicopter light just making a bee line in 349 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:07.519 that direction. 350 00:19:08.279 --> 00:19:10.680 I have to believe that the pilots of the plane 351 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:13.400 had no idea what hit them because of the fact 352 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:15.680 that they're coming in for a landing. It's probably I 353 00:19:15.720 --> 00:19:18.519 don't know, one or two hundred miles an hour at 354 00:19:18.519 --> 00:19:20.440 that altitude you want to slow down. 355 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:21.519 I don't know. 356 00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:24.039 There's probably some records I could look up, if you know, 357 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:26.440 I probably should, just to get a sense of how 358 00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.039 fast that plane was coming in. But those pilots have 359 00:19:29.119 --> 00:19:33.000 to be focused on the runway, on their instruments. I'm 360 00:19:33.039 --> 00:19:35.839 by no means an aviation expert. I barely know politics, 361 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:39.079 but I can tell you, as a sort of an 362 00:19:39.160 --> 00:19:44.440 experienced Washingtonian that this is normal to have planes coming 363 00:19:44.440 --> 00:19:47.720 in at that hour at that you know, at that altitude, 364 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:51.680 in that path is exactly what you'd expect as It's 365 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:55.720 also common to see military aircraft buzzing around at the 366 00:19:55.720 --> 00:20:01.960 same time. So how these two things happen? Let me 367 00:20:02.000 --> 00:20:04.680 put it this way. Experts have been fearing something like 368 00:20:04.720 --> 00:20:06.480 this for a very long time, and we've been so 369 00:20:06.599 --> 00:20:09.240 fortunate in this country to have gone more than fifteen 370 00:20:09.359 --> 00:20:14.519 years since a major air disaster. But that streak has ended. 371 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:17.240 Yeah, well, and you mentioned that people that they've been 372 00:20:17.319 --> 00:20:20.720 fearing that. I heard last night that there are takeoffs 373 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:23.720 and landings like every thirty to forty five seconds or 374 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:24.759 something like that. 375 00:20:24.759 --> 00:20:27.440 That's right through the day and into the early hours 376 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:30.519 of the evening. Overnight. That airport goes dark for the 377 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:33.680 most part because of sound and flight restrictions to protect 378 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:37.519 the residents. But that is one of the most heavily 379 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:40.640 trafficked air corridors in the country and under the most 380 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:43.960 secure conditions, which means you really have to know what 381 00:20:44.000 --> 00:20:46.519 you're doing to be in the air there. This is 382 00:20:46.559 --> 00:20:51.920 not generally it's not open to amateurs anymore. Time was, 383 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:52.880 but not anymore. 384 00:20:53.960 --> 00:20:57.119 Well, it's certainly a mystery, and we'll be anxiously awaiting 385 00:20:57.160 --> 00:20:59.279 to see if we can find out what happened. It 386 00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:03.359 doesn't change that more than likely sixty seven people were 387 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:05.680 killed last night, of course. 388 00:21:05.839 --> 00:21:09.960 Yeah, as always, these investigations take place so that we 389 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:12.559 can learn from and prevent these things from happening again. 390 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:15.920 All right, ABC, Stephen Portnoy, appreciate it as always, Thank 391 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:17.440 you for the information you bet. 392 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:19.480 Okay, when we come back, we are going to keep 393 00:21:19.480 --> 00:21:20.000 you updated. 394 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:22.359 We'll get you any new information that comes out about 395 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:26.720 this plane crash, the crash between the American Eagle regional 396 00:21:26.839 --> 00:21:28.960 jet and a black Hawk helicopter. 397 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:30.160 But we're going to switch. 398 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:31.920 Gears just a little bit and when we come back, 399 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:35.079 we're going to dig into that lawsuit that was sparked 400 00:21:35.079 --> 00:21:38.599 by the movie. It ends with us ABC's Juju Chang 401 00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:44.319