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your no Kings thing? Thank you very much. I woke
up today and there is no king in America, so
it worked. I think it worked. Kudos. Good job, good job.
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AP How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm doing great? Pete? How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great as well? No Kings today. I thought
it was dicey, Like like Friday night, I was like, man,
we really want to get rid of this king that
we got, and then they had the big protest and
then now there's no king anymore, and so I'm so
very grateful. Did you did you participate? Did you go
down hang out with any of the No kingers.
Speaker 2: In no hard work and grocery shopping?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean neither. I did have walk to end Alzheimer's.
So we were We did that in uptown Charlotte, and
we were kind of worried that, like we may get
caught up because we had like three thousand people or
something march for the for the Alzheimer's Association on Saturday morning,
we were kind of worried that, like we were all
in purple and we would just get swallowed up by
the No Kings people. But they didn't come out till later,
so we were fine. But but yeah, we made there
were there were some jokes about it. So what was
the what was the Oh, hang on a second, I
gotta play this for you. This is from the Charlotte
No Kings and this is a woman who was captured
uh In an interview with WBTV take a listen. Trump
is a disastrous president. He's completely breaking our entire country,
and I am so sick of waking up every single
day to the chaos that he is creating.
Speaker 2: We have a beautiful country and I'm here to fight
for it.
Speaker 1: All Right, there you go. She seems very well adjusted,
not at all unstable in any way. So tell us, yeah,
did that? Yeah? It's like, uh, I think you've got
something else going on if you wake up every single
day and you're doom scrolling what Trump did today, you know,
like I kind of feel like there's some people that
Trump's Trump has broken their brains and everything in their
life is now centered around you know, the orange hitler man.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there's this phenomenon right now where no matter
what he does, it's awful and the world is ending.
It's the end of democracy as we know it. And
you know, I mean lower taxes, lower gas bills, food
prices will start to come down as energy starts to increase.
But you know, hi Middle East peace deal, you know
he's killing it. You know he's got THE'SE got them
Cartel's coming out of Venezuela. You know, he's been doing
the boat bombs yeah, you know. I mean he's he's
secured the border, the deportations are still going on. You know,
he's looking to clean up crime in various cities around
the country, including Charlotte, which Governor Josh Stein isn't too
excited about, no him possibly sending the National Guard there,
despite the fact that they've had what like fifteen homicides,
sixteen homicides in the last month and a half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're yeah, we were, we were down a bit
and then you know, CMPD was like, look our homicides
are down, look at us, they're down, and then like
this weekend we had four more. So uh, yeah, it's
well I did in the first hour of the show today,
I walked through the MacArthur Foundation and their Safety and
Justice challenge. They've they've pumped over three million dollars into
Mecklenburg County.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I read about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for this for the soft on crime policies, and
they've been doing it all and it's not just Charlotte,
They're doing it in jurisdictions all over and.
Speaker 2: Well, going back to the well adjusted folks, though, I
don't know if you notice the proliferation of blow up
costumes inflatable costumes.
Speaker 1: I have, I have noticed that.
Speaker 2: I I what I had to find out what that
was about. So I did from digging around, and I
found that uh Lee, Antifa folks in Portland, yeah, who
have been fighting with the ice fiscility there, had been
doing these rent of costumes and to show that they're
they're they're peaceful people there. And there was that viral
clip that went you know that went viral of the
White Fires post as you're putting pepper spray up to
the air hole of a frog.
Speaker 1: Right right. So yeah, but no, we saw this a
couple of weeks ago. Yeah, like all of a sudden,
they're not like people are getting out of the black Block,
although actually I don't know they could still be dressed
all in black in the costume, I'm not sure. Yeah,
so there, but yeah, so they were like they were
ditching the black block scary uniforms and going with these
inflatable costumes in order to try to flip this narrative,
this script that Antifa is a dangerous scary organization. Sorry idea.
Speaker 2: I guess that's where that came from, though. Yeah, but
what cracked me up though, there was this clip MSNBC
was out amongst some of the crowd, and they came
up to one that was looked like a my Little
Pony unicorn kind of thing, and the reporter literally sticks
the microphone up into the face of this thing, shoving
the nose of this inflatable character all the way back
so that he can get the person's voice camera. And
I'm watching this and I'm thinking, you couldn't have found
someone in the crowd without a costume.
Speaker 1: Right, Why? Yeah, why did you make a b line
to that person?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's just weird. And you know those
costumes shut up here in the Triangle and around around
the state too. There was a frog and a skeletal cat,
and I think there was also a bee, I think
I saw, But there was unicorns as well, and horses
and all kinds of things. And I've just dropped a
story about all this to my subscribers. Paid subscribers have
more to the story. We'll be able to check out
all the images and uh and goodies from from that
that I collected.
Speaker 1: It's further confirmation ap that these are theater kids.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, we're back to We're back to the
kind of protests where they've got the you know, they've
got these pithy yet coherent signs. You know, they waved
them around. We're mad about something, but we're not going
to tell you exactly what it is. We just know
the countries being destroyed, but we can't articulate why. And
when we're asked why, we get mad and call you
a racist.
Speaker 1: You know what it's it reminds me of is the
moral monday Ers. That's what all of this stuff reminds
me of. Yeah. Yeah, for people who don't remember or
weren't here at the time, this would have been Pat
McCrory's first term. So what would have twenty twelve?
Speaker 2: I guess sixteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And because you know, first Republican governor in like
forty years, and they had they had the House, they
had the Senate, they had the Governor's mansion, and so
the left and remember the Democrat Party in the state
had been so hollowed out by corruption and scandal and
all this stuff. They were like they were about to
lose their headquarters in raleighcause they couldn't pay the rent,
and into that breach stet you see what I did.
They're into the breach a repairer of the breach, Reverend
William Barber, and he launches this Moral Monday thing, and
the Democrats, because they don't have anything else and they
can't mobilize themselves at that point, they just basically like
offloaded the entire thing to Barber and his poor people's
campaign stuff, the Moral Monday, and they would march every Monday,
and the media would go down there every Monday, and
it was the same sort of thing. They would all
have different uh signs up there, and it's just this
omnik cause, as Ben Shapiro calls it, you know, just
just swap out a different issue. I did not see,
I will say, for the for the note Kings, I
did not see as many Free Palestine signs this weekend.
Speaker 2: Oh there were some. I spotted to various video clips
floating around on x You can you can see a couple,
but they're you know, while they didn't have any of
the bedding.
Speaker 1: That we saw.
Speaker 2: So one of the previous ones of a beheaded Donald Trump,
there was a woman carrying around a couch that had
a son and that couches against jd Vance. Jd Vance first, first, uh,
he asked couches. Now he's effing America. Yeah, but it's
written out and there's little kids right around, so that's nice.
Speaker 1: Whit she's carrying around an actual couch. Yeah, I got
a full couch.
Speaker 2: Yep. I got a screenshot of it from Oh my gosh,
a guy who posted it publicly on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not gonna lie. That's kind of impressive that
she's carrying around a full couch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's well, it's more like an armchair part
of a couch. It looks like it's part of a couch.
But yeah, she's carrying this thing around and she's got
you know, she's got her little love little heart shape
sunglasses on, smiling of.
Speaker 1: Course, because they are the Party of Love. Yes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the very next post and that that thread by
that individual on x though had you know, was posing
with him and his kids, so they were obviously there.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've got some clips from these different speakers around
the country and yeah, and the funniest part to me
in uh, the apology that is offered by media folks
is like all the Republicans are saying that these are
like hate America. Uh, and they're communists and socialists. And
I actually saw some website did at I think it's
called factually or something, and they did a fact check
in their life, there's actually no connection between the communists
and socialists with the no Kings, I'm like, what are
you kidding me? Like, I have their I have their poster,
and they've got like they got the Freedom Socialist Party
as a sponsor, the Young Communist League, the Communist Party USA, uh,
New York City Democratic Socialists of America like don't like,
don't pee on my boots and tell me it's raining,
like they're proudly. And then the Climate Defenders it's I mean,
it's the same thing. League of Women Voters, is there
of course.
Speaker 2: Well, one thing that is blowing around out there too
is uh, you know pins that say, you know, is
he dead yet?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And uh and you know Pooh Winny the Pooh memes
where Piglett asked, pooh, is he dead yet? And they
mean Donald Trump? Right, And these things are being these
pins and these cards and these memes are being sold
at you know, stands by Democratic Party groups in various areas,
but also you know, circulated on the Internet, Facebook, social media,
that sort of thing. So we've toned down the rhetoric.
Speaker 1: Yes, well look right now, they're just they're just wishing
that the president die a death of natural causes, versus
openly celebrating the assassination attempt, although some actually did that.
Speaker 2: Too Sniper's nest today, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some actually are doing that as well. So yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: A lot to worry about. It's a locked on pack.
I mean, the protests for the most part seemed like
they were mostly peaceful, except for those two gals and
Charlotte who arrested at the may or the June one
for assaulting on officer.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the work mostly peaceful here. I mean they're
just you know, waving their signs and that sort of stuff.
But you know, I mean, it's only a matter of
time until you know, it gets hijacked by their black
black friends and they're in more you know, animal inflatables
show up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well it is, as I've been saying with this stuff,
it's creating a permission ructure when you have media people
and elected officials, when you have quote unquote you know,
normal mainstream leaders who are saying things like oh, I'm
not saying they should have assassinated Charlie Kirk, but and
then they give a rationalization for it. You're erecting a
permission structure which then sends this message to the the
more you know, mentally unwell, that this is the way
that I will gain martyrdom and I will gain approval.
I mean, look at Luigi Mangioni, that guy right and
the celebration. Yeah yeah, so yeah, but hey, you know,
as long as they've got the sign in the front
yard that their house has no room for hate, all
as well. All right, AP Dylan, you could reader work
at the North State Journal NSJ online dot com and
you can subscribe as I do, to the newsletter more
to the story. AP as always, thank you very much,
appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Pete.
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In the minute that either one of them stops giving
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this stuff. All right, So the Charlotte Observer I found
this interesting. They went down to the No King's protest,
because of course they would. I'm not saying they shouldn't,
but three reporters on the byline seems like a bit much,
seems like it seems a bit high. They did uh
like a yeah, three pages on the No Kings and
it was all just quotes from people. Basically, I'm here
for this because I hate Trump and I'm I'm here
for this thing and I hate Trump, and I'm here
for this thing and I hate Trump. And there was
not a single counterpoint offered in the In the piece,
three reporters and you guys couldn't find a single person
to talk at all about the absurdity of No Kings,
the absurdity of it, or the funding of it. Right
the organizations that are putting this thing on because there's
there's there's no relevant information for that stuff, right, of
course there is that's providing the full context of the story.
It's not simply a part of the nationwide protests. Because
there are all of these organizations. I listed just a
few of them, literally, communists and socialists, all the unions,
they're all in on this. You've got climate change people.
It is basically the Moral Monday ors again. And the
coverage of this No King's crap is the same as
we saw with the Moral Monday protests as well. Just
they show up, they stick a mic in some rando faces,
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William who says, I wish just one of them would
answer the question at this no King, the No King's protest,
I wish one of them would answer the question, which
king in the entirety of the world would have allowed
your protest to happen? Correct? Yes, I see CNN has
a crawl going on the bottom of their screen today,
what forty eight hours after the No Kings and it
says Trump dismisses no Kings as quote a joke. Correct, yes, correct,
it is a joke. See. This is why had the
Charlotte Observers, three reporters that covered the No King's protests,
had they gone out and asked anybody on the right
what they think of the No King's protest, they would
have discovered that people on the right view the No
King's protest as a punchline. It is a joke. You're
embarrassing yourselves. We laugh at you. That's what's happening. The
entire branding is absurd. It's just stupid. We do not
have a king, and even you recognize this. If we
had a king that was suppressing your ability to assemble
peaceably and express your grievances to the government, right, if
we had a king, you would not be there. If
you were actually afraid of Donald Trump as a king,
you would not be out there because you suffer no
ramifications for being out there. Nobody came and arrested you.
Nobody is throwing you in prison for your speech and
your political views are in anything like that. Nobody's even
deplatforming you like y'all did to conservatives. WBTV. Their story
does include quote the other side at the end of
their little blurb. Now, they only spent like three paragraphs
on this story, so it was just like, yeah, rally
was held at First Ward Park, and then they say
Republicans have sought to portray participants in Saturday's rallies as
far outside the mainstream of American politics and the main
reason for the prolonged government shutdown now in its eighteenth day.
I'm not really sure what they're trying to convey there
with this write up. Kind of got a little mangled there.
Not sure, but yes, Democrats did not want to move
on the government shutdown until after this protest because if
they had reopened the government before the protest, then Chuck
Schumer wouldn't have had his prime speaking slot at the
No King's rally right, So they're trying to build a narrative,
and they are using the moral Monday blueprint, which by
the way, was also cribbed from the Wisconsin protests in
the state legislature when they took over a couple of
years before. We saw it here in North Carolina. We
saw it up in Wisconsin and with who was the
Scott Walker, right, the governor, and they were in there
shutting down operations for the state legislature. And then they
did it here at North Carolina. And it's the same
sort of mishmash of these leftist groups, the omni Cause,
as Ben Shapiro calls it. They have all these different groups, right,
but they're all like, we're all intersectionaling here at the
hatred of Donald Trump, and he's a king. We're not
going to have a king. We're American patriots, no kings.
But yeah, we don't have a king. If we had
a king, y'all would have been rounded up already, right,
So that's the absurdity of your protests. We all recognize
what it is that you're doing. You're working on earned
media coverage and all of these groups are getting grants
and such, and you know, you organize this to prove
to your donors that you're doing stuff. You're getting stuff
done from the White House to Capitol Hill. GOP leaders
disparaged the rally goers as Communists and Marxists. Yes, because
a lot of them are in fact. Here, I have
a photo. This is from the Denver No King's March
and Rally. I guess because they have a booth set up.
They've got a tent, and they got a table, and
they got their logo on the little tablecloth Denver Communists,
very stylized hammer and sickle logo there. And then they
have a placard that says Charlie Kirk had it coming,
change my mind. And then on the back wall of
their booth they have a huge banner, very professionally done up.
It says Globalize the Intifada. And then they've got a
table with a bunch of books for sale. One I
can see the title here Palestine and Marxism.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 1: But this is all in my head right, this is
I'm not really seeing all of this. By the way,
you guys, you're just terrible. Comis Why are you selling
the books? Huh? What's up with that? You just give
them away? I should just go to these I should
do this. I'm probably not going to I know myself,
but somebody could do this. Go to the communist booths
and just start taking their stuff, like I'm collectivizing this.
I need this more than you do. I need to
know what's in this book more than you do. They
got a bunch of feminism books and stuff. They've got
one that says unbuilt walls. Okay, so yeah, COMMI literature
all over the place, Rosa, Luxembourg, Okay, whatever. But that's
the kind of people that are at the rallies. And
I read to you the list of some of the
sponsors and organizers of the event Communist party groups, Socialist
party groups. So it's not disparaging rally goers as Commi's
and Marxists. They are. They are proudly so they set
up booths and I'm not supposed to notice this, but
if I do notice it, then I'm the bad guy.
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David Strom at hot air dot com. A couple of
thoughts on the whole no kings, the absurdity of no kings.
He says, I absolutely positively understand why liberals dislike Donald
Trump's policies. He is, after all, reversing so many of
the policies they love, and they have every right to
object to them. I agree with David Strom, he is right. Well,
here's the thing, though, when there's a legal dispute about
some presidential action, right, the courts get involved, the courts
have their say, and by the way, usually the Supreme
Court rules in favor of the president. Like that's the
normal course that all of this stuff has taken. I
gave you the stat I think it was last week.
It's like ninety four percent of the cases that make
it to the Supreme Court are decided in favor of
the administration. That's hardly the sign of a king. Right.
If Donald Trump was a king, there would not be
any court battles. Right. All those judges that make all
these rulings against Trump, all those judges would have been
kicked off the bench, imprisoned, disappeared. Right, That's what a
king would do. That's what a tyrant and authoritarian, a fascist,
orange nazi, Right, that's what they would do. That has
not happened. In fact, i'm not sure the left is
aware of this. What they're actually doing is they are
they're building the guardrails. So every time you sue Donald
Trump on anything like some of these policies he's doing,
and you take it to court, you get a lower
court it's like, I'm totally with you, aclu or you know, indivisible,
fifty to fifty one, whatever group you're with, and then
you get overturned, and then you appeal and then it
goes to the Supreme Court and Trump wins. Well, now
you have a Supreme Court ruling backing Trump's play. You
are erecting the guard rails. And the more you sue,
the more guardrails you end up erecting. I'm not sure
you guys are aware of that. Just the heads up.
If Donald Trump was a king, the Senate Democrats would
not be able to put roadblocks in his way, right,
the courts would not be in a position to even delay,
let alone deny any kind of presidential dictate. But speaking
of authoritarianism and the democracy, who was it that tried
to keep their political opponent off the ballot in the
last election? Who did that? That wasn't Donald Trump? That
was Democrats literally at the state level tried to keep
him off the ballot. Who was it that canceled their
own primary? Who did that? That? Yeah, that was Democrats also.
Oh and then when they finally had to be dragged
kicking and screaming to the reality that the current inhabitant
of the White House was cognitively impaired and could not
do the job any longer, they then democratically, of course,
swapped him out and anointed Kamala Harris as the nominee. See,
that's the kind of crap a king would do, right
a line of succession. That's the kind of stuff kings do. Ironically,
Democrats are urging Republicans now in shut down to eliminate
the filibuster. Have you heard this. They've been on social media,
they've been doing it in interviews. They've been saying, oh, well,
then the Senate should just get rid of the filibuster
so they can pass the continuing Resolution without us. Really so,
not so long ago the Democrats were saying that the
filibuster was vital to preserving the democracy. Well, but that
was after they had said that they had to get
rid of the filibuster to preserve the democracy. But then
before that they were forgetting rid of it. But that
was only after they were against getting rid of it.
Or anyway, I forget, I've lost track of their position
on eliminating the filibuster. Basically, it comes down to, if
they're in power, they want the ability to get rid
of the filibuster so they can get what they want
done without any Republican buy in, you know, like they
did with Obamacare, which now apparently everybody is sort of recognizing, Man,
this thing did not actually drive down costs. And it's
just as if only if only some people were warning
what would happen if Obamacare was passed law fair Remember
that how many trials. Did Donald Trump face at the
height of the presidential campaign? But right, but now any
prosecution of Letitia James, John Bolton, Jim comey, Right, this
is proof that we live in a fascist state. But
when you guys were trying to keep Trump off the
ballot and you were dragging him into every courtroom you
could find with a hospitable jury and judge, not a
sign of the fascist state. Right, As many before have noted,
David Strom says, the Democrats are the party of the
third rate theater kids who believe that being overly dramatic
is the same as being convincing. He's exactly right. I'm
not buying your performance. It's pretty terrible. I've seen the
play for fifteen years. It was boring fifteen years ago.
It's insufferable. Now you're not persuading anyone. All right, that'll
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