Speaker 1: You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron. Tonight's
Speaker 1: story isn't from a one time weekend bigfooter. It's from
Speaker 1: Brian Seech, a man who's spent over thirty five years
Speaker 1: digging through reports, wandering the forests of Pennsylvania and West
Speaker 1: Virginia and chasing a presence he's never quite caught. A
Speaker 1: silent forest, a feeling of dread, and a creature none
Speaker 1: of them could see, all of them felt. In this episode,
Speaker 1: we'll hear about the Ohio Howell, the strange white Bigfoot
Speaker 1: of Beaver County, and the moment Brian realized this wasn't
Speaker 1: just research, it was personal. Stay with us all right,
Speaker 1: Bigfoot Society, But the privilege of talking to Brian Seech
Speaker 1: today from out there in West Virginia. He heads up
Speaker 1: the Center for Cryptozoological Studies. He's been investigating Bigfoot in
Speaker 1: other cryptids for over thirty five years. I've been wanting
Speaker 1: to talk to Brian on the podcast for a while.
Speaker 1: Now we finally got it to work out, So welcome
Speaker 1: to the show.
Speaker 2: Brian. How's it going today?
Speaker 3: Oh it's about great though, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I mean, we were talking before we
Speaker 1: started rolling that we've actually we've met in person at
Speaker 1: Monsterfest when Small Town Monsters had their their get together
Speaker 1: and we had we had a good little chat back then.
Speaker 1: But it's good to have you on the show finally.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: I was looking forward to, so, Brian, when we have
Speaker 1: an individual like yourself on the show, where you've you've
Speaker 1: been in this field for just I mean, we just
Speaker 1: said it over thirty five years. That's a long long time.
Speaker 1: So I'd love to start. You know, what was it
Speaker 1: that first got you into going after Bigfoot and other
Speaker 1: cryptids to begin with?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure, so so basically, you know, I grew up
Speaker 3: in the seventies, Okay, grew up in the seventies watching
Speaker 3: things like Leonard Nimoy in search of all the documentaries,
Speaker 3: you know, Legend of Balgy Creek, Call, all the ones
Speaker 3: that were out there. And I was always a big
Speaker 3: sci fi geek too, so I was always interested in monsters.
Speaker 3: And when I found out later on because I'm originally
Speaker 3: from Aliquipa, Pennsylvania and we just moved to Weirton, West Virginia,
Speaker 3: so I would watch a show called a Chila Theater
Speaker 3: with Chili Billy Cardilly, and I always especially like all
Speaker 3: of the monster shows, especially anything about Bigfoot, and just
Speaker 3: from there when I met my wife and you know,
Speaker 3: we got married, she had an interest too in all
Speaker 3: the unexplained, So we formed our first group. Actually we
Speaker 3: were married in eighty five. Our first group was formed
Speaker 3: in eighty six, which was Q acronym q CUE Center
Speaker 3: for Explaining Events. Later on we added our newer group
Speaker 3: in twenty twelve, which was the Center for Cryptozoological Studies CCS.
Speaker 3: We got that group because we wanted to focus more onencryptives.
Speaker 3: Now we still have Q and Q. When we formed
Speaker 3: it in eighty six, we formed it to be a
Speaker 3: clearinghouse of all all unexplaining mother b UFOs that you know,
Speaker 3: Bigfoot ghosts. But we went into the into CCS in
Speaker 3: twenty twelve to try to get more encryptied reports in general,
Speaker 3: not just Bigfoot, but.
Speaker 2: Such such a history.
Speaker 1: So most of a lot of your research has taken
Speaker 1: place in Pennsylvania over the years, is that right?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the bulk of Pennsylvania, some in the eastern Ohio
Speaker 3: and then now also now in the Panhandle of western
Speaker 3: north excuse me, the northern Panhandle of West Virginia, but
Speaker 3: the bulk of it, like about eighty percent was in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: Gotcha.
Speaker 1: So when you were let's let's say we'll talk about
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania for a little bit and specifically Bigfoot. You know,
Speaker 1: over the years, were there any investigations that you were
Speaker 1: involved with or any memorable you know, you're out in
Speaker 1: the field, you're you're investigating a sighting and and is
Speaker 1: something pretty cool happened?
Speaker 3: Well? We, uh, one of the apartments, the more interesting
Speaker 3: ones we had was uh and I'm sure you've heard that,
Speaker 3: you know the place Salt Fork State Park. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: over and over again in uh, you know, having people
Speaker 3: talk about bigfoot. So we we were there for one
Speaker 3: of uh. At the time, it was don Keating holding
Speaker 3: the conferences. Uh. So we had a couple of our members.
Speaker 3: We were at the conference coming back from the conference,
Speaker 3: and about five of our members were at a place
Speaker 3: called the Handicap Shelter. They were already there, so that myself,
Speaker 3: my wife, Terry, and Dave and carry Rupert. They came
Speaker 3: with us from the conference. So we went to meet
Speaker 3: up with every you know, our other our other group.
Speaker 3: So we we pull into this this area, and it's
Speaker 3: called the handicap shelter. And so Terry and I get out,
Speaker 3: and then Dave and carry get out all at the
Speaker 3: same time. Okay, And honestly, honestly, God.
Speaker 4: When we we got out of those cars, okay, we
Speaker 4: all almost stopped suddenly and like looked at each other,
Speaker 4: and we we were hit with this feeling.
Speaker 3: You know, some call it maybe in for sound, you know, hey,
Speaker 3: maybe we were zapped, you know, things like that. But
Speaker 3: we all stopped and looked, looked at each other, and
Speaker 3: and Dave and I looked at each other and we said, hey,
Speaker 3: day something something's off here. And we had been to
Speaker 3: that that shelter numerous times, okay, but we got out
Speaker 3: of those cars and it was like this something hit
Speaker 3: us that said, wow, we shouldn't be here. It was
Speaker 3: this feeling of dread, this this sense that that something
Speaker 3: wasn't right. So we got we got out of the
Speaker 3: cars and we walked it underneath this this the big
Speaker 3: handicaped shelter there. And as soon as we got there,
Speaker 3: one of our members said, something something is off tonight.
Speaker 3: They felt it too, okay, they they felt that the
Speaker 3: woods will you know, the woods were deadly found. This
Speaker 3: is probably about like ten thirty seven o'clock at night,
Speaker 3: and we're all just looking at each other and they said,
Speaker 3: something's off. Something feels really impressive here. It almost feels
Speaker 3: like you're being waked again. They didn't see anything, they
Speaker 3: didn't hear anything when they were there. They just felt something.
Speaker 3: So David and I went back to the cars, got
Speaker 3: our I got my night no Dave got his night vision,
Speaker 3: and I got my parabolic and we walked around the area.
Speaker 3: We walked up and down the parking lot, and we
Speaker 3: just felt like we felt something was watching us, that
Speaker 3: something I just didn't want us there. We've only ever
Speaker 3: felt that. I felt that one other time slightly up
Speaker 3: in oil City at a park two mile run, when
Speaker 3: as soon as we were getting into the woods, you
Speaker 3: literally stopped. You felt like there was literally something watching you,
Speaker 3: staring at you. You felt very, very uncomfortable. Those two
Speaker 3: instances there were through the instances where we could say, hey,
Speaker 3: there might have actually been something there. We also heard
Speaker 3: in twenty twelve Terry and I and Dave and Kerry
Speaker 3: Rupert also they've been with us, who are really good
Speaker 3: friends for probably I think sixteen seventeen years we heard
Speaker 3: the Ohio how down at Beaver Creek State Park. And
Speaker 3: I was and as we had talked very briefly before,
Speaker 3: I was on the several small Town Monsters episodes, and
Speaker 3: the latest one was Bigfoot Decoded Layer of the Sasquatch,
Speaker 3: and that was down at Beaver Creek State Park. And
Speaker 3: that's where it happened at Beaver Creek State Park. But
Speaker 3: it was a long drawing out how and if you know,
Speaker 3: anyone would go on to be a for our website
Speaker 3: and type in the Ohio how, that's that's what we heard,
Speaker 3: the Ohio how. We were actually on that property when
Speaker 3: I was a member of the PA Bigfoot Society and
Speaker 3: we were on that property, myself and several other researchers,
Speaker 3: and that was in Wellsville, Ohio, which was not that
Speaker 3: far from Beaver Cree State Park. So those were probably
Speaker 3: the three of the instances where, you know, out of
Speaker 3: all the instances, although you know, we were out, you know,
Speaker 3: out there on night ops or you know, just hiking
Speaker 3: through the woods, three of the instances where the only
Speaker 3: time I could really say there might have might have
Speaker 3: been something, there would have been those three.
Speaker 5: Instances interesting and that we were talking about that this
Speaker 5: small Town Monsters episode of Bigfoot to coda that you
Speaker 5: were involved recently.
Speaker 2: It's it's really really good.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to have the link in the description
Speaker 1: so that I would hope everyone listening to this checks
Speaker 1: it out afterwards if they haven't already. But it really
Speaker 1: allows you to see, you know, what it is that
Speaker 1: you were dealing with out there in that area, which
Speaker 1: is is really cool. Have you been fortunate enough to
Speaker 1: have any visuals during your time investigating of Bigfoot or
Speaker 1: anything that you think may have been a close call
Speaker 1: at all?
Speaker 3: No, I can honestly say I have never seen anything this.
Speaker 3: This is the why that I'm still in it while
Speaker 3: my wife is stilling it. We want to see something
Speaker 3: before we you know, right off into the sunset instead
Speaker 3: to speak. This is why I do it. I remember
Speaker 3: in the seventies sitting and watching my Sterious Monsters and
Speaker 3: the lady sitting sitting in the window and the arm
Speaker 3: comes through the window, and I'm sure you saw that
Speaker 3: many times, and that just got me hooked. And just
Speaker 3: for that little kid there sitting there watching it being fast,
Speaker 3: I'm like, wow, if these things are real, I want
Speaker 3: to see one that would mean everything to me. That
Speaker 3: would probably, and my wife doesn't believe me. Should I
Speaker 3: see one, I may be done with bigfooting, because this
Speaker 3: is the reason I'm in it. I'm never going to
Speaker 3: prove it to the world, you know, unless you know,
Speaker 3: I would accidentally happen to hit it like Harry and
Speaker 3: the Henderson's and then put it on my roof or something.
Speaker 3: But I'm never going to prove to anybody that exists,
Speaker 3: no matter what I could do. So I have to
Speaker 3: prove it to myself. And that's why I'm still in it.
Speaker 3: I want to see something. I have a lot of
Speaker 3: good friends who've seen them, and it's just like, you know,
Speaker 3: I never have. And it's like all the time and
Speaker 3: effort that my wife and I and our group and
Speaker 3: our organization has put into it and we haven't had
Speaker 3: any visual Sometimes it's like, Wow, some of these people
Speaker 3: just go out or you know, they'll be driving down
Speaker 3: the road, this thing will run in front of them,
Speaker 3: by by by dumb luck. You know, they see something,
Speaker 3: and then we're putting all this time and effort and nothing.
Speaker 3: It's it does get frustrating. I will say that.
Speaker 1: It's such an interesting thing because I am well five
Speaker 1: years into this podcast, but focused on Bigfoot specifically. I
Speaker 1: would say we're probably getting close to like two years
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm our Like, my thing now is I
Speaker 1: just want, honestly, I just want to have some sort
Speaker 1: of visual I just need. I need to get past
Speaker 1: it and to hear you talk as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: I might be trying to have that for a very
Speaker 1: long time. It's a possibility, but it is kind of like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but it's especially when
Speaker 1: you hear so many people talk about it, you know.
Speaker 1: I talked to so many people on this show, all
Speaker 1: different parts of the country, and it's like, man, it
Speaker 1: just feels like if I put myself in the right
Speaker 1: area and maybe I don't have electronics, maybe it will happen,
Speaker 1: you know, the right intention. How are you guys, when
Speaker 1: you guys go out with your group, how are you
Speaker 1: set up? Are you going out with cameras and in
Speaker 1: different things? Are you going out kind of you know, undercover,
Speaker 1: with not a lot of electronics or how are you prepared?
Speaker 3: Probably I would guess probably maybe half and a half.
Speaker 3: There are times we just go hiking. We go hiking
Speaker 3: in areas that have had encounters. Now, if we go
Speaker 3: on like an investigation, we're usually almost always carrying cameras
Speaker 3: or parabolics. We're trying to document, you know, we're trying
Speaker 3: to document what we see, hopefully we see something. But
Speaker 3: if we're just out of hiking, we're normally not carrying
Speaker 3: all that equipment. We're we do carry like a camera,
Speaker 3: but we won't a lot of times we don't have
Speaker 3: them on because we kind of I want hopefully this
Speaker 3: thing seeing us just hiking through the woods, you know,
Speaker 3: not you know, you have cameras on you, but there
Speaker 3: we try to try to conceal them a little bit,
Speaker 3: bring them out every once in a while. But but
Speaker 3: when we're on like any kind of investigation or a
Speaker 3: night off, yeah, we have all of our stuff with us, Stefan,
Speaker 3: and maybe, as you said to you what you just said,
Speaker 3: and I've thought a lot of times, you know, let's
Speaker 3: just go out night a couple of times and not
Speaker 3: have anything with us, just you know, we would never
Speaker 3: be able to prove what we saw. But if it
Speaker 3: would spur an encounter, then I think it would, you know,
Speaker 3: it would be worth it. The time we heard the
Speaker 3: Ohio how we were actually above Beaver Creek and at
Speaker 3: the campground, and we were just finishing up a like
Speaker 3: a Halloween weekend for the kids and stuff there. And
Speaker 3: so it was about one thirty two in the morning
Speaker 3: that we were saying good night to Ruperts and we
Speaker 3: heard how we weren't prepared at all. I mean we
Speaker 3: were getting ready to go to bed and just one
Speaker 3: long drawn out how it was in the would have
Speaker 3: been in the valley below it, and we weren't prepared. Now,
Speaker 3: if we were not bet if we were sitting up
Speaker 3: there with you know, with our with our parabolic and
Speaker 3: our paper recorder, we probably nothing. Probably what happened, right,
Speaker 3: But yeah, sometimes it's almost like a cruel hand of
Speaker 3: fake here. It's like, you know, after all this, after
Speaker 3: all the time and money, after we have a huge job.
Speaker 3: We call our library the s Files. We've had that
Speaker 3: since nineteen eighty six, and we collect as many newspaper articles, magazines, books,
Speaker 3: old newsletters. We have a bunch of old researcher They
Speaker 3: give us old material that's very hard to find. We
Speaker 3: work with doctor Paul Johnson. He's the second longest bigfoot
Speaker 3: UFO researcher in Pennsylvania and he's been doing it since
Speaker 3: the seventies, so you know, he's he's given us most
Speaker 3: of his material, and its stuff's hard to find, you know,
Speaker 3: And it's just with all this stuff, you know, you
Speaker 3: read about how these people just like some chant, you know,
Speaker 3: even though they'll be walking into the woods, boom, something
Speaker 3: pops off or something throws a rock at them. It's
Speaker 3: just you and I know you've heard you know, you've
Speaker 3: read probably one hundred I've read thousands of encounters since
Speaker 3: the seventies. I used to I used to have a
Speaker 3: little collection in the seventies and then right right you know,
Speaker 3: maybe around I was maybe fourteen fifteen, and I've gotten
Speaker 3: rid of some of it. This collection would be even
Speaker 3: bigger now, which which seemed almost impossible. But so much
Speaker 3: out there, so many things, so many people have seen
Speaker 3: these things for years, and it's documented, and as you said,
Speaker 3: all across the United States. You know, we mainly focus PA,
Speaker 3: Eastern Ohio, in the Panhandle, West Virginia, just three states.
Speaker 3: And but yeah, you've done it all, so you've heard
Speaker 3: all the stories yourself.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine what that library must be like. It
Speaker 1: must be just just massive and irreplaceable for sure. I
Speaker 1: mean there's certain people I think about in the field.
Speaker 1: Now you're one of them, but I think of people
Speaker 1: like Stan Gordon, like his library must be massive as well.
Speaker 1: But you know there is you mentioned. You know, you've
Speaker 1: read all these reports, you know, for so many years,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that you've found some interesting patterns between
Speaker 1: the different witness reports that you've read. Have you noticed
Speaker 1: any patterns over the years that usually the person is
Speaker 1: or maybe different patterns between witnesses, like a common thread
Speaker 1: at all when you've been reading these reports.
Speaker 3: Well, especially like a lot of the ones we get, uh,
Speaker 3: can be very simple. They're driving down you know, our
Speaker 3: road at night and one of these creatures just runs
Speaker 3: in front of them. I mean, people said, hey, what
Speaker 3: what's the best way to go look for bigfoots? Some say,
Speaker 3: you know, you know, hey, go out in the middle
Speaker 3: of the woods, do this, do this, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Sometimes I say, hey, just drive down all these dark
Speaker 3: roads that it has lightings. You're just as apt to
Speaker 3: see maybe to see it. Have something run across then
Speaker 3: that have them come to you, you know, maybe by accident.
Speaker 3: And if you do, you know, you read enough of
Speaker 3: their reports the reports can be redundant, like even out
Speaker 3: west to out east, even the same patterns, almost the
Speaker 3: same behaviors with these creatures do. One of the more
Speaker 3: interesting reports we got that we got was one of
Speaker 3: the actually one of the first funds that we actually
Speaker 3: we actually took here Beaver in Beaver County. So it
Speaker 3: was it a place called Brad's Run Park and it
Speaker 3: was after a after a storm. There was two ladies
Speaker 3: that were underneath the shelter the storm went by. They
Speaker 3: get on their horses and they're riding up the trail
Speaker 3: to the woods and they they see either left, let
Speaker 3: you know, off to their left, they see something that
Speaker 3: looked like it was crouching, and it got up and
Speaker 3: it stood up and and the really cool interesting thing
Speaker 3: about this is this creature, I think it was a
Speaker 3: dark brown creature. It put its hands in the air okay,
Speaker 3: and it showed its teeth okay. And of course they
Speaker 3: were scared in their horses. They just they just went
Speaker 3: straight up the hill to the house. So years later, uh,
Speaker 3: you know, I always watched Finding Bigfoot, and of course
Speaker 3: I'm sure you you know you watched it, and there
Speaker 3: was an episode about their rang Pendeck in so I
Speaker 3: and one of the the eyewitnesses he's and the the
Speaker 3: the rang pen ran pendick are smaller four or five
Speaker 3: foot taul creatures. This creature when he saw it, it
Speaker 3: put its hands over his head and it growled at him.
Speaker 3: Now you want to talk about similarities from Pennsylvania to Sumatra.
Speaker 3: Difference in size, but they both have the same pattern.
Speaker 3: They put their hands in their hands in the air
Speaker 3: and they grow out at them. When I saw that,
Speaker 3: I mean I got goosebumps. I'm like, wow, our very
Speaker 3: first report we took it and its behaviors mimicked this
Speaker 3: irang pendick. Don't you think that was pretty cool? I
Speaker 3: thought that was pretty cool. I really did. I was like, wow,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: It's stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It just blows my mind, right, I mean, so an
Speaker 1: example like I took ever report really close to my
Speaker 1: let's say bay in Iowa, like very close the few
Speaker 1: nights ago, to the point where it's like I can
Speaker 1: easily drive there and investigate the area, which has never
Speaker 1: happened to me. And the person who shared the report
Speaker 1: was saying how there was something that was surrounding them
Speaker 1: in the woods and it was making a clicking noise,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's weird. I've never heard that,
Speaker 1: and it kind of made me be like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is very strange. And then literally the next day I
Speaker 1: did an interview with a couple from North Georgia and
Speaker 1: one of the main things They're like, yeah, the bigfoot
Speaker 1: around here make a clicking.
Speaker 2: Noise, and I was like, what in the world.
Speaker 1: So it's these patterns, And there's another pattern that I
Speaker 1: want to ask you if you've ever noticed yourself. It's
Speaker 1: really on my mind right now because I've been noticing
Speaker 1: a lot of it in different reports.
Speaker 2: I'm getting.
Speaker 1: It seems that more often than not, these individuals that
Speaker 1: will have a encounter with a bigfoot right before or
Speaker 1: in let's say, a week before or days before, they've
Speaker 1: had some really intense traumatic event happen where it's either
Speaker 1: they've lost a loved one, they've gotten divorced, just things
Speaker 1: that really really really shake you up. And then they're like,
Speaker 1: you know what, forget this, I'm going into the woods,
Speaker 1: I'm getting away from it, and boom they run into
Speaker 1: a bigfoot. Is that anything that you've noticed over the years,
Speaker 1: or maybe just a pattern that I picked up myself recently.
Speaker 3: Well, we've had a couple, a couple of people who've
Speaker 3: talked about one woman was going through a difficult time
Speaker 3: in her life and one of these creatures. And this
Speaker 3: lady's actually interviewed on the Buck Eyed Bigfoot series. Sure,
Speaker 3: and and I was able to provide them. Uh. Two
Speaker 3: eyewitnesses who who both a woman and a man who
Speaker 3: did not know each other. One was in h one
Speaker 3: saw a white creature in Beaver Creek State Park, Okay
Speaker 3: where we filmed that and uh. The other was in
Speaker 3: Beaver County, which uh, which I grew up in. In
Speaker 3: Beaver County butts up against Columbiana County in Ohio. So
Speaker 3: if you were like look at a map, you would
Speaker 3: see Columbia County Beaver Creek, and right across from it
Speaker 3: is uh is Beaver County. And they both and both
Speaker 3: of these eyewitnesses interviews are in the Buck Eye Bigfoot.
Speaker 3: I I think it's it. The episode was like towards
Speaker 3: one of the ends about the white creature, about the
Speaker 3: white Bayfoot, and they both saw the same thing and
Speaker 3: we were able. Unfortunately, my wife and I were not
Speaker 3: able to the eyewitnesses wanted to meet each other, so
Speaker 3: we had to get permission from each of them to say, hey,
Speaker 3: we have another eyewitness who we believe might have seen
Speaker 3: the same thing. Would you be able to meet up
Speaker 3: with them? And unfortunately, we had something that came up
Speaker 3: and we could not do it. But we still said, okay,
Speaker 3: here here's the names. And they met up. And I
Speaker 3: wish we could have could have just sat there and
Speaker 3: listened to both of them. It's just we were something
Speaker 3: came up and we were just unable to make it.
Speaker 3: And they both described the same thing. And so the
Speaker 3: lady in Beaver County had seen it, I believe about
Speaker 3: three times over a twenty year period. Okay, and I
Speaker 3: could that might not be exact, you know, and the
Speaker 3: gentleman saw it once, but you know, basically the seven
Speaker 3: foot tall creature almost like the hair was almost covering
Speaker 3: its face and it just watched them. And as far
Speaker 3: as how far distance, maybe by how the crow flies,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, if the crow could flash
Speaker 3: straight between both of them, both of the the where
Speaker 3: it was seen, I would bet you maybe eight miles
Speaker 3: maybe maybe eight miles between both of their sightings, and
Speaker 3: over a period of time. Now you know, the gentleman
Speaker 3: had seen it last but even that was it was
Speaker 3: several years ago. It's been a while, but it's not
Speaker 3: like the one lady saw it and then he sees
Speaker 3: it right after. But no, so in that area, in
Speaker 3: our in our general area, my wife and I have
Speaker 3: done I believe it's been seven white slash gray creature
Speaker 3: sightings and in the whole area in general. Now this
Speaker 3: would be Beaver County, this would be Columbiana County, Lawrence County, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 3: And even here in Hancock there was two which was
Speaker 3: take They were taken by somebody else. These were white
Speaker 3: creatures possibly and how we say possibly one of the
Speaker 3: highest concentration of white creature sightings in the United States.
Speaker 3: It's really weird. We just we dubbed them whitey of
Speaker 3: course catchy nickname, but that's what we haven't had any
Speaker 3: sightings of this creature for years, but there has been
Speaker 3: at least about eleven sightings now. Even Stan Gordon took
Speaker 3: one in Beaver County in nineteen seventy three where this
Speaker 3: creature was holding a glowing sphere and it walked into
Speaker 3: the woods. After these girls had seen there was some
Speaker 3: lights in the sky. So I thought that was pretty
Speaker 3: interesting too.
Speaker 1: So that's that's extremely interesting. So a few questions for
Speaker 1: you about that. Do you think that this might just
Speaker 1: be the same white haired creature that's being seen or
Speaker 1: there could be multiples of it? Are the sighting reports
Speaker 1: similar or different enough that you're like, Okay, there might
Speaker 1: be more than one white haired creature here.
Speaker 3: All of them except one one, they're all they all
Speaker 3: just they all describe them about the same size, about
Speaker 3: seven foot close to seven foot, okay. And the other
Speaker 3: lady who saw one in Dartington, which which was close
Speaker 3: to uh, actually actually do the other thing. I forgot
Speaker 3: to mention actually when I told you about with the
Speaker 3: one creature put its hands over it, that was a
Speaker 3: dark creature well up the hill. And years later, years later,
Speaker 3: I'm talking forty years later, there was also a white
Speaker 3: creature scene within that mile radius, okay, and from from
Speaker 3: where Brady's run is to Darlington. Another lady saw a
Speaker 3: white creature too, and it almost had like she said,
Speaker 3: almost looks like a Pyrenees like the like where the
Speaker 3: uh the hair almost covered his eyes type thing. So uh,
Speaker 3: they were all about seven foot now where Deviatehs is.
Speaker 3: There was one in Newcastle, which is in Lawrence County.
Speaker 3: It was a four foot tall small creature and the guy,
Speaker 3: the guy could see its eyes. So was there two?
Speaker 3: You know? Was there not only there's big one, but
Speaker 3: a smaller one. But the smaller one was only seen
Speaker 3: one time. So but for the most part, almost ninety
Speaker 3: percent consistent. It was almost looked like the same height
Speaker 3: and everything. Okay, except for the four foot tall one,
Speaker 3: which I don't know if could that have been an
Speaker 3: offspring or just a total I don't know.
Speaker 1: That is extreme, extremely weird. This the area is the
Speaker 1: area that you're taking reports from. Have you found that
Speaker 1: most witnesses are are describing them the same way? And
Speaker 1: what I mean by that is like, you know how
Speaker 1: some witnesses will say, well, it's face looked kind of
Speaker 1: more like an ape, where it's face looked more like
Speaker 1: a Neanderthal or you know, just a hairy guy you
Speaker 1: would see on the street. Are they described me the
Speaker 1: same way or are there maybe different types of ones
Speaker 1: that have UH looks that are not the same.
Speaker 3: Most most of the ones that we've taken are more
Speaker 3: or or ape like. Now, there was one in seventy three, okay,
Speaker 3: also in Beaver County that we took UH now obviously
Speaker 3: we took we took this. We took this one years
Speaker 3: years later because I was only eight in seventy three.
Speaker 3: So and this one's kind of interesting too. This was
Speaker 3: at a trailer court, which you know, we know that
Speaker 3: you're in pa Big Full Love trailer course. For some reason,
Speaker 3: this this this kid was playing in his room and
Speaker 3: he looks to his left. He sees movement, and there
Speaker 3: was movement out of and so in the window this
Speaker 3: looks like this. This creature was walking by and it stopped,
Speaker 3: sees him, you know, turns sees him playing on the floor.
Speaker 3: And this is the weird part. He says, brying, this
Speaker 3: thing turned and then it's eyes glowed red. He says,
Speaker 3: the eyes weren't red until he saw the kid. Then
Speaker 3: he said they glowed red. And the other we took
Speaker 3: one of the report in uh uh. This is in
Speaker 3: West Warren County. This was obviously way years later, maybe
Speaker 3: in the two thousand sometimes. Where the gentleman and his girlfriend,
Speaker 3: well let's just say its being it's a family show.
Speaker 3: They were just resting in the woods, Okay, just resting
Speaker 3: in the woods. Well, they get up from resting in
Speaker 3: the woods and they start walking and the gentleman walks,
Speaker 3: he almost runs into this big flot I guess the
Speaker 3: way he he was describing. And as he got up
Speaker 3: and he was walking, and this creature must not have
Speaker 3: seen him and was kind of looking around distracted, and
Speaker 3: it stopped in front of him, and it was he says,
Speaker 3: I was close enough to it that it stopped and
Speaker 3: it looked at me. He says, it looked at me,
Speaker 3: and I almost saw the the the eyes went red.
Speaker 3: They didn't glow red, they turned red, almost like the
Speaker 3: blood was coming in them. And then this creature screamed
Speaker 3: at him, and he said the force was almost like
Speaker 3: a He was hit with this force of the screen
Speaker 3: and it turned one way, and the gentleman and his girlfriend,
Speaker 3: which would be his wife, turned and ran the other way.
Speaker 3: Now this thing was startled. Okay, so I'm thinking when
Speaker 3: we get here in PA, when we get some of
Speaker 3: these sightings of glowing eyes, now we don't get you know,
Speaker 3: we've only got we haven't got a lot. But traditionally
Speaker 3: PA has had a decent amount, especially in the seventies,
Speaker 3: where these creatured eyes were glowing red self luminous red. Actually,
Speaker 3: So could could that just be some kind of a
Speaker 3: defense mechanism, you know that? And the odor I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, let's face it, you know me, and you
Speaker 3: walk outside, we see a giant eight there. If that
Speaker 3: ain't scary enough, now, now let's make its eyes blows
Speaker 3: glow red, you know even more. Could it be some
Speaker 3: kind of a defense mechanism. And I'm not saying it is,
Speaker 3: I'm just asking I could it be?
Speaker 2: We don't know, man, that that is really wild.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine seeing that where and the eyes just
Speaker 1: start glowing red?
Speaker 2: Wild wild stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna I'm going to open it up
Speaker 1: to you know, you've you've had more than just bigfoot
Speaker 1: over the years that you've been involved with. So the
Speaker 1: question for you is thinking about all the years, what
Speaker 1: is the strangest thing that you've experienced out in the field.
Speaker 1: There's something that was like, man, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: get what was going on there.
Speaker 3: We we've researched a couple of times, which actually on
Speaker 3: another thing on YouTube called a A Paranormal Life The
Speaker 3: Lost the Lost Files it's in our episode is called
Speaker 3: the s Files. Actually, we researched a place called Livermore,
Speaker 3: which is in Long Indiana. Westmoreland water and there's a trail,
Speaker 3: the pen Ohio Trail that goes through and there's a
Speaker 3: cemetery up there, the Livermore Cemetery. There was a town Livermore,
Speaker 3: but it was actually it actually the flooded and there
Speaker 3: was there was a flood that went through there and
Speaker 3: it killed a lot of the people. And they say
Speaker 3: there's ghosts and spirits there. Well, we were doing about
Speaker 3: bigfoot investigation, bigfoot investigation, and we had two teams. One
Speaker 3: team was by this bridge it went over the Kanama River,
Speaker 3: and myself and two others were down at least a
Speaker 3: mile maybe a mile and a half from them, and
Speaker 3: we see this light best described as like a white
Speaker 3: spere spheerish light, and it was kind of bobbing up
Speaker 3: and down almost like we say it almost like almost
Speaker 3: like a railroad a railroad worker with his lantern. And
Speaker 3: how they had the lanterns and they look like they
Speaker 3: bob and they swing, and that's what this thing looked like.
Speaker 3: And it got closer to us. That's it did not
Speaker 3: really show up on tape, which is the weirdest thing
Speaker 3: even looking back at it. They just put this episode
Speaker 3: out about a month ago you can't really see it.
Speaker 3: It's just it's you could see it more with your eyes,
Speaker 3: but once you try to put a camera up to
Speaker 3: you really couldn't see it. And we went back there
Speaker 3: another time and we saw some spheres. We saw one
Speaker 3: it looked like a white light going over the uh
Speaker 3: it's like a valley, there's a river there, and it
Speaker 3: looked like it's split in two. Actually one split into two,
Speaker 3: and then it just like moved out of sight. So
Speaker 3: those are some of the weirdest things that we've seen
Speaker 3: as some of these light spheres. Now that I know
Speaker 3: you're probably getting more of that now too. We started
Speaker 3: to research this, oh jeez, about five or six years
Speaker 3: ago with a project we call Light Anomaly Exploration, which
Speaker 3: is LA l A E. And we have a frequency
Speaker 3: machine and we try to we use that frequency machine
Speaker 3: to see if we can maybe contact with these spheres.
Speaker 3: Are okay. Now, we've had we've had a couple instances
Speaker 3: where that one I just told you about Livermore, we
Speaker 3: took it there and we had one of the weirdest
Speaker 3: instances we ever had in the field when we were
Speaker 3: up in Hinsdale, Hinsdale, New York at the Hinsdale House. Now,
Speaker 3: I don't know, you're probably you may not be familiar
Speaker 3: with it. It's a haunted house. It's an old house
Speaker 3: that they believe is, you know, haunted, and the land
Speaker 3: around it was there was it was Indian land. So
Speaker 3: there was a pond. There's a haunted house. There's a pond, okay,
Speaker 3: And across the pond there's electrical wires across the pond.
Speaker 3: That night, there was a heavy geomagnetic storm that night
Speaker 3: and we were there. We were playing our frequencies, and
Speaker 3: honest to god, there was about fifteen of us. Okay, Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: we were all just sitting there playing these frequencies and
Speaker 3: nobody actually had like a camera. We weren't videotaping it, okay,
Speaker 3: So above us it was a I don't know if
Speaker 3: you ever watched the series Stranger Things.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you remember the part where up in the
Speaker 6: sky it looks like the clouds are moving around in
Speaker 6: a circle and there's something coming out of the clouds.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Honest to god, that's what happened. I mean,
Speaker 3: we're all looking and in that cloud it looked like
Speaker 3: there was there was like lightning inside the cloud. And
Speaker 3: then this appendage looked like it came down like a
Speaker 3: black cloud. Now I think it may have. It may
Speaker 3: have been some kind of a weird weather formation, Okay,
Speaker 3: But and I don't know if if there's anything that
Speaker 3: if it was a cause and effect, like if all
Speaker 3: those factors with the water and the electrical line over
Speaker 3: it and the geomagnetic storm and our frequency is being projected,
Speaker 3: I don't know. If I'm not saying we caused it,
Speaker 3: but I don't know if it enhanced what might have
Speaker 3: been happening. But if it only lasted about maybe ten
Speaker 3: twelve seconds and it just dissipated. But it was the
Speaker 3: weirdest thing I've ever seen in my life, honestly. And
Speaker 3: in that area too, there have been big foot sightings.
Speaker 3: They have these little creatures, so they're edgedly called the
Speaker 3: puck wat jezy. You probably heard about those things. I
Speaker 3: know New York has them to Massachusetts, I think. And
Speaker 3: we didn't see any puckwadge's or anything. But there was
Speaker 3: a bunch of us, not us, not myself and my wife.
Speaker 3: They walked down this road. It's like there's a dirt road.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of houses, but not a lot. So
Speaker 3: we see these it was night. It was maybe eleven
Speaker 3: twelve o'clock. So about five guys walk down there. All
Speaker 3: of a sudden, we hear this noise and these lights
Speaker 3: are these slash lights are moving like like they're running,
Speaker 3: like they're actually running from something. And they get to
Speaker 3: us and they said, we saw something was in the woods,
Speaker 3: something big was in the woods. So I went up,
Speaker 3: you know, went up to the trail there they have
Speaker 3: this Indian thing, it's called the offering tree. You offer,
Speaker 3: you know, make offerings to this tree to the Native
Speaker 3: American spirits. And I sat up there hoping to maybe,
Speaker 3: you know, this thing apparently would have ran in that direction,
Speaker 3: but I didn't see anything. You got got a little weird,
Speaker 3: you know, one of those times it seemed a little
Speaker 3: weird to me because you know, you couldn't say anything there, okay,
Speaker 3: but it did seem a little weird, you know, maybe
Speaker 3: with my imagination. But so that was probably the weirdest,
Speaker 3: one of the weirdest nights we've had with I wish
Speaker 3: we could read now. I have a frequency written down
Speaker 3: what we you know, and again I don't know offhand
Speaker 3: what it is, but it's written down in the book
Speaker 3: that if those common I mean, the pond's still there,
Speaker 3: the wires right over the pond still. If we if
Speaker 3: we would ever get back up there with the precise
Speaker 3: ah major geomagnetic storm who knows, and play that same
Speaker 3: frequency couldn't happen again, and that would be an interesting experiment.
Speaker 3: But the chances of you know, us having all of
Speaker 3: those factors going back up there would be astronomical, you know,
Speaker 3: but it's very interesting, I.
Speaker 1: Think, Yeah, I mean that that's fascinating it. You know,
Speaker 1: did you ever try to use that same frequency again
Speaker 1: in any other way?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did try. We did try a couple other times,
Speaker 3: but just never nothing really happened. We've we've had our
Speaker 3: machine partly for about three or four years. Unfortunately, the
Speaker 3: the amount of times we've been able to use it
Speaker 3: going out and use it because it's we call them
Speaker 3: gelling is what the name of it it is. It's
Speaker 3: it's a modified uh it's got modified plasma balls in
Speaker 3: it and it's hooked up to a little spooky to
Speaker 3: a frequency machine. It was like a prototype. Mate, there's
Speaker 3: only one of the one other one out there. This
Speaker 3: inventor got made it for us. I think we went
Speaker 3: to do some kind of a tinkering now, and you
Speaker 3: got to get this thing and you have to have
Speaker 3: like a power powers source with it and hook it up.
Speaker 3: And it's a pain in the buzz to use it,
Speaker 3: really is, you know. But we hope to do some
Speaker 3: more this year. I hope to do some more. I
Speaker 3: haven't been able to do it here where we live.
Speaker 3: We live we call it's a holler, you know, hollow
Speaker 3: holler down here, and we have a creek right beside us,
Speaker 3: and we're in a bowl. And when this water's flowing, ah,
Speaker 3: when it's flowing it's a small creek, it can be
Speaker 3: a raging creak. So we may do something like that
Speaker 3: when it's when the water the energy is flowing a lot,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Then we might try if
Speaker 3: we can get that a certain set of circumstances and
Speaker 3: we know when there's going to be a major geomagnetic storm,
Speaker 3: try it down here, maybe see what happens.
Speaker 2: No, I think that that's a cool idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very out of my knowledge base when it
Speaker 1: comes to this. But this type of machine could it
Speaker 1: also be used to create the frequencies that are very
Speaker 1: low on the scale, like infrasound. Or I might be
Speaker 1: thinking of something completely different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't. Most of the frequencies are higher frequencies.
Speaker 3: Now I saw somebody or somewhere there is there is
Speaker 3: something out there that oh I think it was on
Speaker 3: expedition Bigfoot. Maybe about low frequency infrasound that they can
Speaker 3: do that and track it. But it's expensive piece of equipment,
Speaker 3: and a lot of these TV shows you don't know,
Speaker 3: you don't really know what one hundred percent to believe?
Speaker 3: Is it all show? Is there some truth to it?
Speaker 3: I was lucky I got I was lucky to be
Speaker 3: on if you remember Monsters and Mysteries in America, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to be on the episodes two
Speaker 3: very so very briefly, you wouldn't even know. I was
Speaker 3: on another one about the Devil Monkey, which I was
Speaker 3: on a lot. But I talked to the producer called
Speaker 3: me and I was talking to him and I said, Hey,
Speaker 3: I got to ask you guys, something. Are all these
Speaker 3: what's you're showing? There are these real? These? He says, Well,
Speaker 3: he goes, the sightings are real. He says, but you
Speaker 3: know we exaggerate, right, I said, what is Yeah? We
Speaker 3: exaggerate for ratings. So like there was that one. There
Speaker 3: was an episode about the sheep squatch. I think I
Speaker 3: don't know if you remember that one, and well the
Speaker 3: kid might have actually seen one, but they like trump
Speaker 3: that up, like this creature was near, it was snarl
Speaker 3: when I got close to me, and it was and
Speaker 3: to hype it up. They might have told the guys,
Speaker 3: you know, come on, you know, okay, you saw this
Speaker 3: creature about, you know, sixty yards away and it looked
Speaker 3: at you and run away. We want you to hype
Speaker 3: it up. We want you to say it was snarling
Speaker 3: at you, and it was the younger kid, So I
Speaker 3: think that's what he did. So when about the sense,
Speaker 3: you know, we sensationalize things, right, And I like to
Speaker 3: tell that story because it does show you a little
Speaker 3: bit of the inner workings. And believe me, I was,
Speaker 3: like I said, I was on like three episodes, but
Speaker 3: only one that I really had any airtime too. And
Speaker 3: it was ironically it was about something I didn't even
Speaker 3: really know much about. It was the Devil Monkey. I
Speaker 3: had to do some research on it. But so don't
Speaker 3: always like yeah, and I think most people don't believe
Speaker 3: what they see on TV. I mean they probably do.
Speaker 3: Even like Expedition Bigfoot. I've heard pros and cons about that, okay,
Speaker 3: and whether it's totally re or parts of it are real,
Speaker 3: but they sensationalized other parts. You just you know, you
Speaker 3: get you already get the more cynical you get and
Speaker 3: skeptical about a lot of the stuff that's on TV.
Speaker 3: And that's you know, like to me, Monster quest was
Speaker 3: the gold standard. Okay. They tried and they put as
Speaker 3: much stuff, and they tried to scientifically, you know, give
Speaker 3: you proof of these things. Put put it, put it,
Speaker 3: put them on spectrographs and sounds and things like that,
Speaker 3: and you know, they they've really you know, Doug Hychek's
Speaker 3: you know, the gentleman who did it. And since that show,
Speaker 3: I believe all of these have gone downhill. It's you know,
Speaker 3: monster Questures mainly sightings and stuff. But they did try
Speaker 3: to use scientific terms and you know, and and Douce
Speaker 3: you know, put science in it. Most of most of
Speaker 3: the ones now are just you know, more like skeptic.
Speaker 3: You got to be skeptical about it. And it's a
Speaker 3: shame because you you know, like like Maulder and Scully,
Speaker 3: I want to believe, right you know.
Speaker 1: No exactly, you know, the whole the Monster Quest shows.
Speaker 1: I mean, if listeners don't don't know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: you can watch. You can find a few of them,
Speaker 1: I believe on YouTube. Yeah, they're out there, and they're
Speaker 1: just so good. Oh man, they're so good, and it's
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And you know, I watch those
Speaker 1: old ones and I can't wait until Doug gets gets
Speaker 1: his new legend meat science to doc releast sometime in
Speaker 1: the future, after they get some everything wrapped up, I
Speaker 1: guess you could say. But it's going to be worth
Speaker 1: it for sure. Hmm, good good stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're going back to that legend me science.
Speaker 3: You know, the the rumors are there's supposed to be
Speaker 3: something really tangible coming out. I don't know exactly what
Speaker 3: that is, but there's a buzz, I would say, a
Speaker 3: buzz that they're supposed to show something, that it's a
Speaker 3: new piece of evidence or something to prove the existence
Speaker 3: of Bigfoot. Now, I hope so, because I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, for all of us talking to
Speaker 3: eat you know e DNA, I don't really know what's
Speaker 3: happening with that. I'm not Unfortunately, I'm not seeing a
Speaker 3: lawn new coming out about Bigfoot now. And also I
Speaker 3: will preface that is I don't follow like Bigfoot as
Speaker 3: much as I used to. I mean I used to
Speaker 3: be up on it and stuff, but now I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of I don't want to say I'm drifting
Speaker 3: away from it, but after doing the same thing all
Speaker 3: the time, you kind of need a break, Like, you know,
Speaker 3: we we get presentations on different topics too. I'm actually
Speaker 3: giving one this Saturday, and Grard Ohio on The Offman
Speaker 3: another wing Enter Ease of the Oile Valley. So it's
Speaker 3: good to kind of break from the Bigfoot and do
Speaker 3: different things. Also, but I think this field needs needs
Speaker 3: a shot, It needs an infusion.
Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, yeah, no, it does, you agree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean there's stuff going on behind the
Speaker 1: scenes that I hear about, but I think that there's
Speaker 1: stuff being worked on when it comes to evidence, and
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's gonna take maybe a few years
Speaker 1: to get it all wrapped up, but I think it
Speaker 1: is coming. We are kind of used to seeing these
Speaker 1: TV shows now where it's like one episode, oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: we found like five different amazing pieces of evidence and
Speaker 1: we're not even gonna.
Speaker 2: Talk about it at all.
Speaker 1: But it's like the real stuff takes it can take years, right,
Speaker 1: and we just gotta we just gotta wait it out,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Because what I what I was told too, is
Speaker 3: it that there may be a couple of groups out
Speaker 3: there that they're waiting to present their material for like
Speaker 3: a scientific science, scientific pure journal. Right if you have
Speaker 3: you heard that too.
Speaker 1: I there's definitely groups out there that are not in
Speaker 1: the limelight and they're just kind of holding back until
Speaker 1: they have the right stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I've heard similar things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And it's even like like like I've heard
Speaker 3: that people say, you know what we we there are
Speaker 3: they people have seen like pictures, you know, you know, videos,
Speaker 3: pictures of almost the ship could almost be irreputable proof
Speaker 3: of big play, although I don't, you know, other than
Speaker 3: us getting obviously the body is the first thing that's
Speaker 3: that goes without saying that maybe getting some solid DNA evidence.
Speaker 3: It's almost like we're not that much further along at
Speaker 3: least as far as what's put out there. And I
Speaker 3: always kind of do like to give it that little
Speaker 3: as far as what's put out there. Now we know
Speaker 3: even the Olympic Project has done with their nests, you know,
Speaker 3: the nesting sites that they've had. Eventually, if they are,
Speaker 3: I'm sure they're probably getting this stuff together and they
Speaker 3: will trying to you know, present as to scientists and
Speaker 3: then hopefully it's hopefully it would be made public eventually.
Speaker 3: So I hope. I mean, like I said, we can
Speaker 3: always cross our fingers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm not even sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, with with the technology going as crazy as
Speaker 1: is going right now with AI stuff, and I mean
Speaker 1: it's getting to the point where like I think that
Speaker 1: I because I use AI stuff in my thumbnails, and
Speaker 1: I'm I feel like I can you know, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: good with that stuff. But like there are some videos
Speaker 1: coming out, some Bigfoot videos where like it has the
Speaker 1: first few seconds of oh my goodness, and then it's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, obviously it's AI, but it gets you for
Speaker 1: a few seconds. It's like, man, just think in a
Speaker 1: few years, uh, it's going to be like type in
Speaker 1: Make Me the Patterson Given film, and literally AI is
Speaker 1: going to be able to show you its version of
Speaker 1: the PG film.
Speaker 2: It's going to look exactly like it. I can just
Speaker 2: see that coming.
Speaker 1: But do you have any thoughts about you know, being
Speaker 1: someone who has seen the last thirty thirty five years,
Speaker 1: what do you think, you know, in current day, do
Speaker 1: you think it would take some kind of physical specimen
Speaker 1: or do you think we're we're okay where you know,
Speaker 1: if they say, yeah, we have we have the DNA proof,
Speaker 1: do you think that's enough.
Speaker 3: I think it's always going to take the physical specimen,
Speaker 3: hopefully alive. I hate. I hate this, I always say,
Speaker 3: I you know, some people get mad said I would
Speaker 3: hate to hate to have one killed to prove it.
Speaker 3: I really would. It would be a sad day, even
Speaker 3: though it could validate the whole species. I just wouldn't
Speaker 3: want to see these things. Now if one was found dead,
Speaker 3: that's you know, that's kind of different. I mean. But
Speaker 3: and the second, probably the second best thing you probably
Speaker 3: could get would be the DNA. After if you can't
Speaker 3: have a body, if you can get some DNA some
Speaker 3: of course blood samples and I mean that you know,
Speaker 3: or once captured. I mean, those are probably the only
Speaker 3: three things that could ever prove I think. You know,
Speaker 3: cryptozoology is the study of hidden their unknown animals known
Speaker 3: to science. But you know, even though it's not a
Speaker 3: lot of people call it a pseudoscience. You know, well,
Speaker 3: this pseudoscience technically, if these things are real, could bring
Speaker 3: you a specimen alive or dead, you know, perferably alive,
Speaker 3: not just big food, these other things too, So technically,
Speaker 3: if that's a pseudoscience by bringing you then I guess
Speaker 3: I'm you know, en cryptozoology is a pseudoscience, because I
Speaker 3: don't think it is. That can be as sarcastic, but
Speaker 3: if you're looking for a you know, a physical specimen
Speaker 3: of something, you can prove it. That's science, buddy.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: Would you would you say that most of the reports
Speaker 1: you receive are Bigfoot related or what do you say
Speaker 1: is probably the top cryptid that you get the most
Speaker 1: sightings about?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's definitely. It's definitely big food. I mean
Speaker 3: by a huge margin. I mean we've gotten some Dogmann reports,
Speaker 3: we've gotten some identity reports, some thunderbird reports, but it's
Speaker 3: mainly big Foot. I mean, you know, he's kinged king cryptid, right,
Speaker 3: got his own beef jerkey?
Speaker 6: Come on?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, it's wild stuff. And I mean you
Speaker 1: bring up an interesting point. I've never thought of the well,
Speaker 1: I guess I have thought of this, but it doesn't come.
Speaker 1: I don't think of it a lot of the potential
Speaker 1: of a live specimen being captured and what that would entail.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely not saying people should try that, because man,
Speaker 1: it might not be a thing you come back from
Speaker 1: unless I mean, I don't even know how you would start.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe a younger specimen that would be easier,
Speaker 1: or I don't know, Man, I'm not the expert when
Speaker 1: it comes to going down that road. Probably don't want
Speaker 1: to go down it, but it might be a valid thing,
Speaker 1: especially I don't know if if there could even be
Speaker 1: like a some kind of tranquilizer dart involved, probably would
Speaker 1: take a lot.
Speaker 3: The thing is is most I mean a lot of
Speaker 3: people do, and I don't think it's a lot of
Speaker 3: people think that the government knows what they are and
Speaker 3: they have a specimen, and a lot of people laugh
Speaker 3: and say, oh, it's just a conspiracy. But if you
Speaker 3: think about it, you know, we have our government, and
Speaker 3: we have all these state parks and people going into
Speaker 3: these state parks and things like that, and if they
Speaker 3: want to know what these creatures can do or track
Speaker 3: them or I don't think that's totally whack of like people,
Speaker 3: Some people think maybe the government has them. You know,
Speaker 3: there was always those rumors went out Saint Helen's Blue
Speaker 3: that they had found that bigfoot there again, rumors you know,
Speaker 3: they said, you know, a couple of helicopters or a
Speaker 3: helicopter went out the big thing on the tarp. Again.
Speaker 3: You hear so much after all these years, you hear
Speaker 3: so many different stories. You just don't know what to believe.
Speaker 3: And even if there's a kernel or truth in some
Speaker 3: of them, you know, it does make you think, I mean,
Speaker 3: especially you know, do they have one, do they have
Speaker 3: a specimen? I mean you would think that you know,
Speaker 3: they have satellites. You know, they could, you know, over
Speaker 3: an Iran then they can if somebody I had told
Speaker 3: her reading the newspaper, they could see what he's reading
Speaker 3: right from his satellites. So why couldn't they again, you know,
Speaker 3: if in an area that they knew, if they had
Speaker 3: several satellites and they had command crews ready, is it
Speaker 3: out of the question. I don't think it's that out
Speaker 3: of the question.
Speaker 1: I think another really interesting thing that keeps happening is
Speaker 1: how these different towns in the Pacific Northwest keep declaring
Speaker 1: like town is, let's say, Bigfoot Safe Zone, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get fined if you mess around type deal. I think
Speaker 1: you know you're you're probably on the right track where
Speaker 1: you know, the government has more info than we think,
Speaker 1: maybe even some stuff at a few bases. I mean
Speaker 1: there's bases out in the Pacific Northwest where they have
Speaker 1: sashquatch encounters all the time, thinking of Fort Lewis McCord.
Speaker 1: Just crazy crazy stuff, you know, they it's not out
Speaker 1: of the question, I think to think yet, let's try
Speaker 1: to take one of these things and you know, hold
Speaker 1: it on base, see what happens, study it. I mean,
Speaker 1: just that just sounds like something we would do. But
Speaker 1: you know, the people haven't reached out to me yet.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you're listening and you know information,
Speaker 1: you're always welcome to reach out and we can keep
Speaker 1: you anonymous. But you know, Brian, it has been it's
Speaker 1: been fun chatting with you tonight about all sorts of
Speaker 1: things to do in your neck of the woods, to
Speaker 1: do with Bigfoot and things. I want to make sure
Speaker 1: you know in our last minutes that there's nothing else
Speaker 1: that you needed to that you wanted to make sure
Speaker 1: that you had shared or you know, if that's fine.
Speaker 1: Then maybe take a few minutes to to remind people
Speaker 1: how they can keep up to what you're doing. If
Speaker 1: there's a way to reach out to you, if you've
Speaker 1: got a website for your you know, Center for Cryptozoological
Speaker 1: Studies all that good stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a couple of Facebook pages we have
Speaker 3: you just type in out a Center for Cryptozoological Studies
Speaker 3: and also that's on Facebook and then also centerf I
Speaker 3: was playing events on Facebook. Or you can contact me
Speaker 3: Brian Seeg on Facebook or email us at Center for
Speaker 3: Cryptostudies at gmail dot com. I have a yeah, real
Speaker 3: long but yeah, and we you know, we don't give
Speaker 3: out names. Everything's confidential. I mean, we could put your
Speaker 3: sighting out, but we wouldn't put like, hey, you know
Speaker 3: I was on father, you know, Farmer Jim's property and
Speaker 3: Leek township. We don't. We won't give an exact coordinates
Speaker 3: or anything. But we do like to get at least
Speaker 3: the base bare bone of the sighting out to spur
Speaker 3: other sightings and maybe, you know, maybe it would spur
Speaker 3: that one encounter we're always looking for. You never know.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Yeah, reach out guys if you got something, But
Speaker 1: Brian Seach. Pleasure to chat with you and we'll have
Speaker 1: to keep in touch with you in the future. But
Speaker 1: thanks so much for spending some time tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was fun. I look for a thing again.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to take a minute to say thank
Speaker 1: you truly for listening to this episode of the Big
Speaker 1: for Society podcast. Brian's story is one of relent list dedication,
Speaker 1: chasing the unknown through foggy forests and silent valleys, searching
Speaker 1: for something that might only ever be seen once if
Speaker 1: you're lucky. Huge thanks to Brian Seech for opening up
Speaker 1: about his decades of fieldwork and for reminding us that
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