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<v Speaker 1>And I just turned around and I call ass out

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<v Speaker 1>of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with them.

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<v Speaker 2>The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things

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<v Speaker 2>that turned me.

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<v Speaker 3>Away the quickest.

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<v Speaker 1>When I turned my head lights on, it turned and

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<v Speaker 1>looked at us. And one of the things I remember

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<v Speaker 1>the most, where the eyes were glowing red. I see

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<v Speaker 1>an orb of light.

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<v Speaker 2>It is just circling these steps like it is waiting

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<v Speaker 2>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And he begins to tell them that he saw UFO.

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<v Speaker 1>They're basically like, what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where I saw.

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<v Speaker 1>The top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes. As

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<v Speaker 1>soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it

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<v Speaker 1>don't like death.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to tenfoil Teals. I'm your host Brandon Wright.

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<v Speaker 2>On tonight's episode, We're gonna be joined by my guest Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike reached out to me recently about coming onto the

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<v Speaker 2>show to talk a little bit about some of the

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<v Speaker 2>artifacts that they've been finding down in Mexico and South America,

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<v Speaker 2>areas little alien type carvings or whatever they've been digging

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<v Speaker 2>out of the ground. Some of these buried caves and

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<v Speaker 2>everything else. So it's definitely something that really piqued my interest.

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<v Speaker 2>Gives me that old uh Indiana Jones tomb raider type vibe,

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<v Speaker 2>so definitely want to get him on here and talk

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<v Speaker 2>with him a little bit about it before we bring

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<v Speaker 2>him on. Though. You've ever had an experience and you'd

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<v Speaker 2>Mike on. Really looking forward to talking with him. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you guys enjoy our conversation. So sit back, relax,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed the show. Like, take this time to welcome my

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<v Speaker 2>guest to I'm Mike. Thanks for coming on here and

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<v Speaker 2>talking to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you like to let the audience know a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit about yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm a business owner from Washington State, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been interested in theology and different history things that

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<v Speaker 1>have happened over the years. It's always been a fascination.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched, you know, the History Channel a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, and so that what got me into

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<v Speaker 1>this was a good friend of mine. He collects rocks

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<v Speaker 1>and minerals as well, and so do I. I've collected crystals,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife cuts opals. So we were no stranger to

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<v Speaker 1>the rock and mineral scene and going to the shows.

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<v Speaker 1>And a good friend of mine went down to Tucson,

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<v Speaker 1>jam and he grabbed a couple of pieces that were

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<v Speaker 1>carvings that he wanted to show me. And when he

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<v Speaker 1>got back, he showed him to me and said that

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<v Speaker 1>there was an archaeologist that claimed that he dug these

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<v Speaker 1>out of the ground and that they were ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>years old, and I laughed really hard at him. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't believe it at all, and I actually bet him

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<v Speaker 1>money that I could prove it wrong. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought I could call a couple of people and verify

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<v Speaker 1>real easy that these items were you know, modern fakes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And so I started on that process, and

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<v Speaker 1>five years later now I've done an extensive amount of

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<v Speaker 1>research on this topic and met with over thirty different families,

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<v Speaker 1>with about five different places in Mexico that they've found

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<v Speaker 1>these pieces and documented these pieces from primarily the two

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<v Speaker 1>places that I've researched and wrote books on our Toula

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<v Speaker 1>Hildalgo and Away those Steelisco and they're about six hours

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<v Speaker 1>apart from each other. And that was really what started me,

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<v Speaker 1>is I didn't know that there was you know, I'd

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<v Speaker 1>never seen anything like this. First of all, I asked

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<v Speaker 1>my buddy when he showed me, He's but who's doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? This is pretty good work, I said, And

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<v Speaker 1>I collected carvings and whatnot for years and never seen

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<v Speaker 1>anything like this, And so yeah, here we are. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I've got three books, and we're prepping to launch our

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<v Speaker 1>first documentary on the topic, and I still passionately research it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that, you know, just like anything with money,

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<v Speaker 1>like Rolexes or you know, Louis Baton Han bigs, there's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be fakes and there's going to be real ones,

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<v Speaker 1>just like the Naska mummies. You know, they claim that

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<v Speaker 1>they were all faked because there was a fake one.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I just saw here a couple of days

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<v Speaker 1>ago that the United States Congress is actually a part

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<v Speaker 1>of a research group now that is studying these bodies.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really interesting to see that unfold kind of

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<v Speaker 1>in parallel to this with what we're researching, because the

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<v Speaker 1>beings and the things that we're seeing are very very similar,

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<v Speaker 1>if not the same entity type. I guess, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to a non humanoid biological specimen. I guess is

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<v Speaker 1>the proper name for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's a very lucrative market when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to things like this, and as you kind of mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>there are a lot of fakes out there, like replicas

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<v Speaker 2>and everything else. Oh yeah, so it's almost buyer beware

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes when you get into things like this, because if

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know what you're looking for. It's you might

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<v Speaker 2>be paying a lot of money for something that someone

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<v Speaker 2>just made and their girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, one hundred percent. I've bought in fakes. I know

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<v Speaker 1>people who have bought in fakes. The great part is

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<v Speaker 1>is owning these pieces and seeing the differences, and over

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<v Speaker 1>the years you start to make comparisons and see similarities

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<v Speaker 1>and styles, and you know, hear these lackluster stories that

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<v Speaker 1>never amount to anything. I, Oh, we found another cave,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that was always what we were, Oh we

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<v Speaker 1>found a cave, or oh we did this, and never

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<v Speaker 1>have any pictures. I mean these things. If I was

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<v Speaker 1>to pull something like this out of the ground, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have my camera phone out, like, you know, splashing

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<v Speaker 1>as many as I could, because I would be so astonished.

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<v Speaker 1>So the fact that you know a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>guys didn't have anything to back their claims was really

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<v Speaker 1>a I didn't think it was real, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>and then I actually made a claim against somebody down

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<v Speaker 1>there and called him a liar because he said that

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<v Speaker 1>he had footage and he refused to show me on

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<v Speaker 1>a piece that was really important because we found that

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<v Speaker 1>there was glass in it, and we didn't really buy

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<v Speaker 1>that they had glass at this point in time if

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<v Speaker 1>it's real, And so I call him out on social media,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he goes and rents a bunch of equipment,

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<v Speaker 1>some gprs, GEO radars and goes to where they'd filmed

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary and they made a documentary on this from

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<v Speaker 1>Gen six Productions. Steve Quail produced it about two years

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<v Speaker 1>ago and it's about four and a half hours long

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<v Speaker 1>of just digging and going over some of the vines

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<v Speaker 1>that they found in these places. But again it's just

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<v Speaker 1>holes in the ground, and it wasn't enough to truly

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<v Speaker 1>make me a believer knowing that someone could go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and probably bury that, you know. And then all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, after I called this guy out, they

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<v Speaker 1>had gotten this equipment, went onto the corn farmer's property,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a piece of property that butts up right

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<v Speaker 1>the back of it to the World Heritage Site of

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<v Speaker 1>Tula Hill Dalgo or Tula b where there's the flat

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<v Speaker 1>topped pyramid they have the Atlantean statues on the top.

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<v Speaker 1>They're quite famous. You've probably seen them, I would imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is literally about fifteen hundred meters that they

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<v Speaker 1>start doing these scans on the ground on this private property,

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<v Speaker 1>and they found some anomalies and started digging and inevitably

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<v Speaker 1>this and this is fully documented on our website. You

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<v Speaker 1>can watch this, you know, them digging in a fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>foot hole and then all of a sudden, this whole

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<v Speaker 1>wall caves in and a hole opens up, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a cave system that has petroglyphs and things. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is at the sixteen foot dig level. And for me,

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<v Speaker 1>that was really a point where I stepped back and said, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no way that these guys carved out this bedrock

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<v Speaker 1>and buried this sixteen feet in the ground to pull

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<v Speaker 1>out a few pieces like this, and they pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>like hundreds of pieces. So the cost to bury this

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<v Speaker 1>and to do this project would be I mean fifty

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<v Speaker 1>grand I would guess at least or more. It took

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<v Speaker 1>him six months to unbury this. I mean every day

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<v Speaker 1>they would bring new pictures and videos. You know, on

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<v Speaker 1>my social media as you can follow and see that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we've been posting this. There's hundreds of videos

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<v Speaker 1>that over the last five years of the progress of

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<v Speaker 1>these and now they found three cave systems total and

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<v Speaker 1>just full of the same type of symbology and carvings

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<v Speaker 1>that we find on these pieces that we questioned for

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<v Speaker 1>a long.

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<v Speaker 2>Time, do you happen to know offhand, like when you're

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<v Speaker 2>when they find these things or whatever, what like where

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<v Speaker 2>they originated from, like how old they are and like

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<v Speaker 2>what tribes or what people they were from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we we've gotten carbon dates. Scott Waltar he's

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<v Speaker 1>the host of America on Earth. He did a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the work with Mark Russell, who's an archaeologist. Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Russell was the archaeologist that talked to my friend down

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<v Speaker 1>there in Tucson, and those guys did a back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen where they carbon dated a bunch of these

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<v Speaker 1>pieces and found dates from from ten to twenty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. And these were consistently coming up. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was an adhesive that they were testing, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>glue that they used to put the inlays. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know some of the pieces are mosaics, so there's lots

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<v Speaker 1>of little stones put together, and so that was what

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<v Speaker 1>they were testing. Well, Scott Waltord had a pipe that

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<v Speaker 1>had reson in it, and he's like, well, there's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be organic material in that, and so he sent

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<v Speaker 1>it off to the lab and waits around for like

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<v Speaker 1>six months. Finally he contacts the owner of the lab, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up with my test? I called on this and

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<v Speaker 1>called on this, and a few days later the guy

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<v Speaker 1>calls him back and says, I got your results for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't ever send anything like this to my lab ever again.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, Scott never got renewed for America on Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>likely because of this show that he produced with Mark

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<v Speaker 1>on this and this topic seems to definitely be covered

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<v Speaker 1>up the years, you know, ten to twenty thousand kind

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<v Speaker 1>of correlates with the younger, dry ass second little ice

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<v Speaker 1>age thing that we went through and can see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of die offs in species, which is an interesting concept.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, relation to this and what it's showing

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<v Speaker 1>dates that are consistent with this thirteen thousand years And

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<v Speaker 2>Now, how did you come about like with this, Like

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<v Speaker 2>how did you get involved into it? I know you

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<v Speaker 2>kind of mentioned you've been interested in it, but like

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean, like I said, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>if this was on, if this was real, this would

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<v Speaker 1>sense sliced bread. You know, this would have to be

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<v Speaker 1>So I think, you know, when I worked with Linda Wollnow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's What really sunk me in is just chasing this truth.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it started out with disbelief and now I

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<v Speaker 1>just gosh, I'm almost sold on it, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's parts of it. I'm I would I would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely bet that there's a truth to the story and

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, if they are mass producing these pieces

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways, it's definitely replicating something that's real. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's that. The petroglyphs are proof of that in my point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or or the old resin and the bones

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that that have been carbondated as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We found daggers and certain bones that have been fastened

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<v Speaker 1>to obsidian for like blades and knives, and those bones

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<v Speaker 1>have been tested in the same age ranges as the

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<v Speaker 1>other pieces. We also have pieces that we've tested for

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<v Speaker 1>age that have the adhesive and that also have ceramic cores.

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<v Speaker 1>They fastened the mosaic tiles to the ceramics and so like.

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<v Speaker 1>Pieces like that are giving us two dates, and some

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<v Speaker 2>It's strange a lot of just from some of the

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<v Speaker 2>things I've looked at and which you had sent me

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, and I was watching that, like, it's very interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been a big fan of Ancient Aliens ever

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<v Speaker 2>since that show started, what fifteen something years ago at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, and it's always got me interested in the

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<v Speaker 2>whole aspect to it. But at the same time, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how if we were to believe the

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<v Speaker 2>ancient civilization made the pyramids, or they made some of

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<v Speaker 2>these things like the baby, the BiblioTech he or whatever

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<v Speaker 2>it is, where the some of the things are so

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<v Speaker 2>precisely cut that we couldn't even do it with like

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<v Speaker 2>modern saws. How do you wrap your brain around something

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<v Speaker 2>like that in the aspect of if they did this

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds to thousands of years ago and we can't even

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<v Speaker 2>do it with the technology that we have today, Like

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<v Speaker 2>how do you explain that? And they're like, oh, it

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<v Speaker 2>just took them a long time, and like science explains it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it makes it even more confusing. It sounds more

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<v Speaker 2>unbelievable in that sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, but especially the Pyramids and the foundation

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<v Speaker 1>work that's underneath of them, that's like just it's mind boggling,

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<v Speaker 1>really how much weight that that foundation supports during earthquakes,

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<v Speaker 1>And somehow it's still there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they wouldn't have never understood earthquakes, you wouldn't think,

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<v Speaker 2>and how to calculate for all that, plus how to

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<v Speaker 2>hold up all the way because each one of those

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<v Speaker 2>megalithic blocks is tons upon tons like, so there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much weight, not to mention the way it was designed

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<v Speaker 2>for all the chambers and everything else through there. How

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<v Speaker 2>did I'm not saying it's not possible that humans did it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like that was some very high tech engineering

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<v Speaker 2>they had going on there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, if you look at the story of the

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<v Speaker 1>Ananaki in the qnaiform tablets at the British Museum or

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<v Speaker 1>in some of like Zacharaia's Sitchen's work, which I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of maybe fairy taled in some aspects because

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<v Speaker 1>of assumptions, but at least based off the right concepts. Mean,

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<v Speaker 1>some of it's spot on with what you read in

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<v Speaker 1>the British Museum, But nonetheless that story and those those

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<v Speaker 1>Anonachi beings translate into this stuff. In Mexico heavily we

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<v Speaker 1>find the same symbology, the same beings as well as

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<v Speaker 1>the same beings. In Egypt we found you know, Thoth

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<v Speaker 1>and Osiris, Orus decment. We found raw tons of these depictions,

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<v Speaker 1>the all seeing eyes everywhere on these things, and and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's really interesting to see the correlation between Egypt

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<v Speaker 1>and and you know Sumeria or or Mexico like that.

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<v Speaker 1>How these all could be connected is bizarre, other than

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<v Speaker 1>we have the pyramids in these locations as well, not

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<v Speaker 1>so much in the Sumerian area, but they had the ziggorots,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know in the in the tablets and stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>it talks about those and being like some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>u you know, possibly portals or space ports. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that type of logic in terms of an advanced civilization

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<v Speaker 1>at that time does exist in our ancient text, even

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible. If you look at the Old Testament, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not detailed very heavily, but there's definitely a tale of

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of uprising that was extinguished based on the

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<v Speaker 1>flood stories, and that translates to Gilgamesh as well in

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<v Speaker 1>the epic there.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like there's always a flood story throughout different civilizations.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always talk of a different type of scenario. And

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<v Speaker 2>to look at it not from a religious aspect, from

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<v Speaker 2>like more of a scientific aspect. If you think that

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<v Speaker 2>the world the ice age or whatever was ending, and

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<v Speaker 2>the waters were melted, like the polar caps or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>They were melting, so the waters were rising. I wonder

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<v Speaker 2>if some of those flood stories were not from something

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<v Speaker 2>to do with that, like, yeah, the water's coming up

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<v Speaker 2>from that, because it would have to have been a

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<v Speaker 2>global blood. Yes, that's the only thing I could think about,

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<v Speaker 2>is like.

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<v Speaker 1>Or commet fragments. You know, there's the story and and

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<v Speaker 1>these these pieces from a whaloes depict a solar system,

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<v Speaker 1>and and there's an extra planet in there being hit often.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it depicts Jupiter with the lines, it depicts

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<v Speaker 1>Saturn with the rings, and and all the correct numbers

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<v Speaker 1>from each other and in order. And and what's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>is that they show this planet well in the in

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<v Speaker 1>the Ananachi tablets there it talks about this planet Tiamat,

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<v Speaker 1>which was was destroyed by Mardoc and uh he was

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<v Speaker 1>the son of Anche. So it's really an interesting thing

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<v Speaker 1>to see that possibly this planet could have been destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>and that could be why we have our moon and

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<v Speaker 1>some of the irrationally placed things like like Mars, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>has this massive scar on the surface. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 1>evidence in itself that this planet came into contact with

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<v Speaker 1>something pretty significant at some point, and uh and the

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere is very bizarre and how things happened there, so

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<v Speaker 1>that that could very well be a reaction of that too.

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<v Speaker 1>Same with Venus and the you know, completely gassed out

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<v Speaker 1>atmosphere and something obviously happened and uh so that that

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<v Speaker 1>could could could be what caused this, and and it

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<v Speaker 1>would correlate with the anonachy texts, and these pieces definitely

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<v Speaker 1>correlate with those as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, like for me, when it comes to the

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<v Speaker 2>story of the Anonochy and everything else, to me, it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds more plausible than basic evolution. And I know that

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<v Speaker 2>might it might make it might make some people roll

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<v Speaker 2>their eyes or anything like that. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, if you look at us in the grand

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<v Speaker 2>scheme of evolution, we've only been here a microscopic amount

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<v Speaker 2>of time, and look how much we've evolved in such

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<v Speaker 2>a small amount of time compared to everything else. It's

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<v Speaker 2>almost as if we were manufactured.

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<v Speaker 1>To be this way, and we inherit this earth. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're the apex somehow, but we have been forever,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there's been lots of dinosaurs and all these other

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<v Speaker 1>species that we see in the fossil record. Same with

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<v Speaker 1>other you know, like the different species of Homo Homo

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<v Speaker 1>erectus and and the Neanderthals and all these different things

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<v Speaker 1>that have evolved. What's interesting with the pieces that we're

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<v Speaker 1>finding is we see the DNA strand pretty commonly. There's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a symbol in Egypt that's the the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>same looking strand at DNA almost and we see them

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<v Speaker 1>with with weird like surgery type scenes Anubis and thought

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<v Speaker 1>standing over these these beds with with alien looking beings,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes with different animals, and like it's almost as if

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<v Speaker 1>they were manufacturing, like you said, or doing this to

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<v Speaker 1>to do this genetic manipulation, and we're kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>product and result. Like like if you were to have

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<v Speaker 1>seeds and you found the one fruit that was the

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<v Speaker 1>juiciest and the sweetest, so you take her and you

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<v Speaker 1>take her seeds and get rid of all the other

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<v Speaker 1>ones and give her the land. Well, that might be

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<v Speaker 1>why we inherit the earth.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. I know some people think, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>we are just one of these I want to say,

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<v Speaker 2>seed factories or whatever, like they think that we've been

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<v Speaker 2>engineered for this planet. They think these other beings go

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<v Speaker 2>to other planets too, to the same thing. Like we're

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<v Speaker 2>just all part of this mass. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>they the proper term would be, but like they just

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<v Speaker 2>they're going around like manufacturing different civilizations based off from

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<v Speaker 2>their own selfs. Yeah, we just have to be the

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<v Speaker 2>one here for Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and and and this this, this whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>I think comes up in the Ananochy town. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>they manufactured the Adamu they called it. And it took

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<v Speaker 1>the Gallop seven hundred and fifty years to get the

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<v Speaker 1>genetics stabilized. And so it's interesting to see that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that was in you know, some of these religious

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<v Speaker 1>texts that says, you know that there was an uprising

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<v Speaker 1>of things that weren't good and then you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>came along and that was like the divine intervention of

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<v Speaker 1>saving us maybe from ourselves, and so that might be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we maybe you were created as slave species,

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<v Speaker 1>like it says in the Anonochy tablets, but there may

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<v Speaker 1>have actually been some sort of divine intervention that gave

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<v Speaker 1>us freedom in terms of at least not being stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in the minds all the time, like there's some governing.

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<v Speaker 1>And what's interesting with that is how the king's list works.

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<v Speaker 1>In Sumeria. You have this two hundred and fifty thousand

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<v Speaker 1>year old kings list with all these kings that reigned

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<v Speaker 1>over for all these years, and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>it's stops. Well why did it stop? Maybe that was

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<v Speaker 1>the divine intervention. I mean, some people think it's Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>or whoever you believe in. I'm not going to try

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<v Speaker 1>to get religious here, but nonetheless, this this intervention of change,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to have occurred. And two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years ago is when we see the Y chromosome mutate,

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<v Speaker 1>and that mutation has been ran in terms of the

421
00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:25.839
<v Speaker 1>odds of it happening again. And this is the one

422
00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:28.119
<v Speaker 1>that gave us all of our intelligence and changed the

423
00:23:28.160 --> 00:23:31.359
<v Speaker 1>size of our All these things happened in relation to this,

424
00:23:32.000 --> 00:23:35.759
<v Speaker 1>to this Y chromosome mutation, and so the chances of

425
00:23:35.799 --> 00:23:40.160
<v Speaker 1>it happening again were like triple impossible odds, you know,

426
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<v Speaker 1>five to the five hundred or whatever it is. I

427
00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:46.319
<v Speaker 1>don't know what the number is, but it was a

428
00:23:46.440 --> 00:23:50.839
<v Speaker 1>ridiculous number. So it's you know, when you see the

429
00:23:50.880 --> 00:23:53.799
<v Speaker 1>genetic manipulation on these pieces, it would make, like you say,

430
00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:56.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense that that story is rather than

431
00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:59.880
<v Speaker 1>random evolution of these crazy odd things.

432
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<v Speaker 2>You know, it just to me scientifically like evolution to

433
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<v Speaker 2>explain us just doesn't seem. I feel like we've evolved

434
00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:12.039
<v Speaker 2>way too fast compared to everything else.

435
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, our DNA is is changing and rapidly

436
00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:19.680
<v Speaker 1>migrating faster than any other species on the planet.

437
00:24:20.400 --> 00:24:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and just like our intelligence from being able to

438
00:24:27.319 --> 00:24:31.000
<v Speaker 2>we're literally having a conversation across the country here, thousands

439
00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:37.319
<v Speaker 2>of miles apart, and we've just evolved that technology within

440
00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:40.079
<v Speaker 2>the last say one hundred years, We've been able to

441
00:24:40.119 --> 00:24:44.279
<v Speaker 2>do stuff like this. Just think from like we are

442
00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:47.000
<v Speaker 2>able to travel through into space. Now we can go

443
00:24:47.039 --> 00:24:49.160
<v Speaker 2>to the moon, where we can like all these other

444
00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:53.680
<v Speaker 2>things that we supposedly can do. It's just crazy to

445
00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:55.279
<v Speaker 2>think because if you look at every other type of

446
00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:58.119
<v Speaker 2>species on this planet, they're nothing like us.

447
00:24:58.640 --> 00:25:02.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, the DNA is super similar in many cases,

448
00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:05.279
<v Speaker 1>even the pig and the rat or very close to

449
00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:08.960
<v Speaker 1>our DNA, more so than even I believe even a

450
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:12.039
<v Speaker 1>lot of monkeys, which is kind of crazy. You know,

451
00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:14.839
<v Speaker 1>you think we look mostly like these guys. Why wouldn't

452
00:25:14.880 --> 00:25:17.359
<v Speaker 1>our DNA be as close to the chimps as it

453
00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:21.599
<v Speaker 1>is to these others. And that's it's interesting, you know,

454
00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:25.200
<v Speaker 1>at the minimum, we definitely don't understand half of it.

455
00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:29.359
<v Speaker 2>That's why we use fetal pigs in school when we

456
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:31.799
<v Speaker 2>had to do like dissections or whatever, because they were

457
00:25:31.839 --> 00:25:34.480
<v Speaker 2>so close with humans.

458
00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:35.119
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

459
00:25:35.880 --> 00:25:39.440
<v Speaker 2>So I've always thought that was funny too, that everyone

460
00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:43.279
<v Speaker 2>says we've evolved from primates in the Great Apes or whatever.

461
00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:48.359
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the pig is very similar to us. Yeah,

462
00:25:49.079 --> 00:25:50.359
<v Speaker 2>so that's strange.

463
00:25:51.640 --> 00:25:55.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is. What's interesting too with these pieces that

464
00:25:55.039 --> 00:25:57.279
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing is you know, you've got all these UFOs

465
00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:01.119
<v Speaker 1>and they do cattle mutilations and abduction, and this is

466
00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:04.839
<v Speaker 1>the common story across the map for for a long time.

467
00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean for decades, if not hundreds of years. I

468
00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:10.799
<v Speaker 1>can't I'm not sure exactly how far back it goes,

469
00:26:10.799 --> 00:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>but I know into the seventies, gosh, you know. So,

470
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.319
<v Speaker 1>so you see on these pieces a lot of the

471
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:22.559
<v Speaker 1>stuff that you would see in the Sumerio and Egypt

472
00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.319
<v Speaker 1>where they worshiped the cow and the cow with the

473
00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:28.920
<v Speaker 1>special head piece on and you know that that sort

474
00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:31.640
<v Speaker 1>of thing. But we also see some of the pieces

475
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:36.440
<v Speaker 1>where they're there, there's like literally like tractor beams coming

476
00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>down from the ships to cows, and so we wonder

477
00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:46.480
<v Speaker 1>if this this race or this being maybe closely related

478
00:26:46.480 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 1>to the cow kind of like we're closely related to

479
00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:51.799
<v Speaker 1>the pig in terms of are they harvesting the genetics

480
00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:54.839
<v Speaker 1>or something of that nature. But it seems as if

481
00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:57.319
<v Speaker 1>they had knowledge of this when they made these pieces,

482
00:26:57.359 --> 00:27:00.279
<v Speaker 1>which is blows my mind.

483
00:27:01.359 --> 00:27:05.839
<v Speaker 2>Now, something like that to me, were cows native to

484
00:27:05.920 --> 00:27:08.079
<v Speaker 2>the area or are they something that were like brought over,

485
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.839
<v Speaker 2>because that would be something that you'd have to really

486
00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:14.880
<v Speaker 2>think about, because if the cows weren't native to here,

487
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:16.599
<v Speaker 2>how are they making carvings of a cow?

488
00:27:19.079 --> 00:27:23.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, and I would imagine, Yeah, it's a good point,

489
00:27:23.279 --> 00:27:25.960
<v Speaker 1>but I'm pretty positive that they are. I mean, I

490
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.839
<v Speaker 1>know the ox is native to Mexico for sure. I mean,

491
00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I can I can put that as a proof. And

492
00:27:31.440 --> 00:27:36.079
<v Speaker 1>that's very very similar to a cow at least. Yeah,

493
00:27:36.079 --> 00:27:37.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. I'd have to look that up.

494
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm not familiar with it or I brought

495
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:43.839
<v Speaker 2>out like I don't remember if horses were native to

496
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:47.599
<v Speaker 2>like North America, if they were only brought over here that.

497
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:49.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they were. Yeah, I'm pretty sure they

498
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 1>were brought over.

499
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you out west you have wild horses and everything,

500
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:58.799
<v Speaker 2>like the styles out running around. But they were never

501
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I think they were just brought over here with loose

502
00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah they were. They got loose and they bred and

503
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.319
<v Speaker 2>they went off on their own. I know we had

504
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:10.400
<v Speaker 2>bison whist Oh. Yeah, they've almost become extinct because of

505
00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:13.480
<v Speaker 2>over hunting and everything else in the early nineteen hundred,

506
00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:16.799
<v Speaker 2>eighteen hundred and nineteen hundreds. But you know, that was

507
00:28:16.839 --> 00:28:18.359
<v Speaker 2>just something I was thinking about when you mentioned that.

508
00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I wonder if there was already cattle

509
00:28:21.480 --> 00:28:27.319
<v Speaker 2>here prior to that, because otherwise it would be U. Yeah,

510
00:28:27.440 --> 00:28:29.079
<v Speaker 2>it'd be one of those things where I'd kind of

511
00:28:29.599 --> 00:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>be hesitant about.

512
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.160
<v Speaker 1>I've done this with every gemstone that we found, I've

513
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:36.559
<v Speaker 1>made sure and I've got a gemologist that I work with,

514
00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:40.599
<v Speaker 1>and so we go through all these gems and microscope

515
00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and try to dissect where they came from, and you know,

516
00:28:43.960 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the minds that possibly produced it, and with the bandings

517
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>and the different saturations and you know, all these different

518
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>things you can you can kind of do that as

519
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>a detour, and we haven't found anything out of consistence

520
00:28:55.759 --> 00:28:59.359
<v Speaker 1>outside of you know, stuff from South America like the

521
00:28:59.400 --> 00:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>Guatemala and stuff from you jade and things. So there's

522
00:29:01.960 --> 00:29:05.160
<v Speaker 1>definitely trade routes between. But we also see the pyramids

523
00:29:05.200 --> 00:29:07.279
<v Speaker 1>all the way through South America, so it's likely that

524
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:10.720
<v Speaker 1>they had different settlements or things if they were the

525
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>pyramid builders.

526
00:29:12.440 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the other thing I've always liked to talk about

527
00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:21.039
<v Speaker 2>is it's strange that you have thousands of miles separating

528
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.599
<v Speaker 2>oceans separating, yet there was pyramids in Egypt, There's pyramids

529
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:29.440
<v Speaker 2>in South America. I think there's pyramids in China. Yeah,

530
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:33.319
<v Speaker 2>these ancient civilizations were all building pyramids. How do they

531
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.640
<v Speaker 2>learn and why were they like if they're spread out

532
00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:39.000
<v Speaker 2>there there's no communication and no knowledge or whatever, it's

533
00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:40.799
<v Speaker 2>weird that they all evolved to build the same type

534
00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:41.599
<v Speaker 2>of things.

535
00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, communication is a really big one. I think that

536
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have wireless communication and all this wireless things.

537
00:29:50.240 --> 00:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>There's pieces that we found that showed depictions of pyramids

538
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.759
<v Speaker 1>with beams coming out the point at the top. We

539
00:29:56.839 --> 00:30:01.039
<v Speaker 1>found numerous pyramids with intricate carvings of you know, all

540
00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 1>kinds of different things, similar to the ben Bend stones

541
00:30:03.680 --> 00:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>found in Egypt with the same you know, double winged

542
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>or the double Yeah, I think it's the double winged

543
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:16.640
<v Speaker 1>with the sun disk and whatnot. So it's it's you know,

544
00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>and the other thing too, that that you mentioned, you

545
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 1>know how there's this this separation that was actually one

546
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:24.279
<v Speaker 1>of the things, the fact that those pyramids kind of

547
00:30:24.279 --> 00:30:29.519
<v Speaker 1>align similarly to Orion's belt that you see there, you know,

548
00:30:29.680 --> 00:30:33.079
<v Speaker 1>in the Pyramid of the Sun in Mexico and then

549
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>the Great Pyramid there in Egypt or the complex there.

550
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:39.359
<v Speaker 1>But those three pyramids sit in that same type of formation,

551
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>which I mean could be an accident. You know, some people,

552
00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>like I think I heard Flint Dribble will say that

553
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.640
<v Speaker 1>it was because that you know, those were the brightest

554
00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:50.599
<v Speaker 1>stars in the sky at the time or something of

555
00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:54.240
<v Speaker 1>that nature. But but but still to it to align

556
00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:58.759
<v Speaker 1>your your large pyramids to that, especially if they are

557
00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:03.599
<v Speaker 1>claiming that they're tombs for what, you know, that's that's

558
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 1>an extensive amount of survey and work that had to

559
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>go in to construct that like that, let alone in

560
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:16.759
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the desert or the jungle. You know, yeah,

561
00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:19.279
<v Speaker 1>no one would want to tackle that project today.

562
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.599
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you that that's the one thing I've always

563
00:31:23.240 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 2>growing up as a kid, I always wanted to be

564
00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.519
<v Speaker 2>We mentioned her like Indiana generally want to be an archaeologist.

565
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:30.759
<v Speaker 2>I want to go out there and find all these

566
00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:35.319
<v Speaker 2>things and do all these crazy things. But like, barely

567
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>my exploration is out here on a computer at the moment.

568
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:43.440
<v Speaker 2>So I don't get that I don't get to live.

569
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Out the archaeologist.

570
00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't get to live out that adventure. But

571
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.359
<v Speaker 2>I've always been fascinated by it. So it's when you

572
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 2>reached out to them, I was like, yeah, I definitely

573
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:54.680
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about stuff like this because this has

574
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 2>always been one of my fascinations, even as a kid.

575
00:31:56.920 --> 00:31:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Is like, I've just always been fascinated with the type

576
00:31:58.759 --> 00:31:59.799
<v Speaker 2>of this type of stuff.

577
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Same no, very much so, and especially with Egypt. You know.

578
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.519
<v Speaker 1>We'd go to the bookstores when I was four and

579
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:09.519
<v Speaker 1>five years old and my mom would say, oh, what

580
00:32:09.599 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of book should take me? Over to the kids section,

581
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.079
<v Speaker 1>and I would ask for Egypt books, like I want

582
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>to see the symbols, I want to see the artifacts.

583
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:17.839
<v Speaker 1>That's what I wanted to see when I was a

584
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 1>little kid. I was so fascinated by it. So to

585
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:24.079
<v Speaker 1>be in this position now completely left field. I mean,

586
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>my businesses have nothing to do with this at all.

587
00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:31.359
<v Speaker 1>My family and friends, I thank them dearly for sticking

588
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:33.720
<v Speaker 1>with me because this is such a left turn. But

589
00:32:34.079 --> 00:32:36.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's kind of a blessing too because people

590
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>know me, and I've you know, established what people understand,

591
00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>so when I come to them with something like this,

592
00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:48.000
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely not what they would expect from me, you know, right.

593
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:51.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for me, it's I've always been the word person

594
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 2>in my families and friends or whatever, so that what

595
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I do now is not really outside the realm of

596
00:32:57.559 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 2>abnormal for me.

597
00:32:59.119 --> 00:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I just never bought into it. I guess

598
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:06.279
<v Speaker 1>I just never bought into aliens and that type of thing.

599
00:33:06.400 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 1>So for me to to, you know, chase this like this,

600
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:15.240
<v Speaker 1>it definitely was out of the norm. Yeah, but yeah,

601
00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm used to it. You know, you got to have

602
00:33:17.960 --> 00:33:20.119
<v Speaker 1>thick skin if you want to do something different, and

603
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.359
<v Speaker 1>that's something with music, and you know, I'm a musician

604
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 1>to play the synthesizer, Yeah, so I realized quickly with

605
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.799
<v Speaker 1>the synthesizer. That this was not a you know, very

606
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:33.279
<v Speaker 1>at the time, it wasn't a very popular instrument, and

607
00:33:33.359 --> 00:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>now now it's actually, you know, it is really popular.

608
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>But at the time, so it's just it's you know,

609
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:42.400
<v Speaker 1>you've got to chase your dreams and go with what

610
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you feel. And I think a lot of people maybe

611
00:33:44.359 --> 00:33:46.359
<v Speaker 1>don't do that because they're afraid of that, you know.

612
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:51.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you said you've written a couple of books.

613
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:54.079
<v Speaker 2>Would you like to talk a little bit about them.

614
00:33:55.000 --> 00:34:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely. So we've documented two different places, primarily, which

615
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 1>is Tula Hildalgo and a Wailos Dlisco, And so I

616
00:34:03.599 --> 00:34:07.400
<v Speaker 1>wrote a book for each place. You know, it categorizes

617
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.480
<v Speaker 1>their their full size eight and a half by eleven

618
00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:15.039
<v Speaker 1>halfbacks full of pictures. I'm a professional photographer and so

619
00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:17.519
<v Speaker 1>I did all the photography work of these, you know,

620
00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:21.519
<v Speaker 1>macro shots sixty megapixel, the best quality I could possibly

621
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:24.000
<v Speaker 1>give with the best glass. And I really wanted to

622
00:34:24.000 --> 00:34:26.760
<v Speaker 1>show these pieces for what they were, and so we've

623
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:30.519
<v Speaker 1>cataloged and wrote up quite a bit of information. We've

624
00:34:30.559 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 1>published our carbon dates in some of the books, as

625
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.599
<v Speaker 1>well as the petroglyphs and the digs and all of

626
00:34:36.599 --> 00:34:40.679
<v Speaker 1>that sort of thing. And so yeah, the first two

627
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:44.159
<v Speaker 1>books there are a Weilos and Tula, and then I

628
00:34:44.159 --> 00:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>wrote a third book called Anonaki The Alien Atlantis meso

629
00:34:48.079 --> 00:34:52.920
<v Speaker 1>American Connection. And it wasn't at first when we've seen

630
00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:55.840
<v Speaker 1>some Egyptian themed pieces, but we really didn't know what

631
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:57.559
<v Speaker 1>to make of it. And then we started to see

632
00:34:57.599 --> 00:34:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the Anonachi stuff coming out of Tula

633
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and things that even resembled like Greek mythology Poseidon and

634
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Zeus type of thing, I mean, very very interesting things

635
00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to be seeing expressed in a much different way than

636
00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 1>what we see the Greeks or the Romans to express it,

637
00:35:18.599 --> 00:35:22.079
<v Speaker 1>but still the same same story with with the same

638
00:35:22.159 --> 00:35:26.360
<v Speaker 1>type of logic. And so I really wanted to paint

639
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 1>that connection because as you go all over the world

640
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 1>here you find this this type of connection, and and

641
00:35:33.480 --> 00:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>you find it, you know, in in Hawaii with the

642
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 1>tiki or the dogon people in Africa, you know. So

643
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>it's it's really an interesting thing to see that that

644
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:49.360
<v Speaker 1>this may have been a global spanning species or or

645
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:52.480
<v Speaker 1>or you know, a group of entities whatever they are.

646
00:35:52.719 --> 00:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's even a physical entity at

647
00:35:55.960 --> 00:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>this point. Or if they're light beings. It's it's hard

648
00:35:57.960 --> 00:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>to say because the pieces. Sometimes it's shows them with legs,

649
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:04.280
<v Speaker 1>sometimes it shows them with like angel wings. Other times

650
00:36:04.280 --> 00:36:06.159
<v Speaker 1>it shows them with no body. They have like a

651
00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:08.920
<v Speaker 1>serpent like they're like they're a snake or a serpent

652
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:12.199
<v Speaker 1>or an eel in the water. And then and then

653
00:36:12.239 --> 00:36:15.199
<v Speaker 1>a lot of aquatic depictions as well, with gills and

654
00:36:15.280 --> 00:36:17.519
<v Speaker 1>like I said, the tridents and stuff that you would

655
00:36:17.599 --> 00:36:22.599
<v Speaker 1>see for Poseidon or talks of atlantis. So I definitely

656
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:27.920
<v Speaker 1>find these connections very very heavily in this area, and.

657
00:36:28.199 --> 00:36:36.719
<v Speaker 2>It might be right, Yeah, I've wondered. Even like with

658
00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:41.159
<v Speaker 2>ancient Egypt, they had a lot of different depictions of

659
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:47.039
<v Speaker 2>animal headed humanoids. You had your nobuses, you had uh

660
00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I forget what the one with the bird looking head

661
00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:56.880
<v Speaker 2>was called the Yeah, And when you go back into

662
00:36:57.000 --> 00:37:00.360
<v Speaker 2>like the Samerian stuff, a lot of their depictions, I

663
00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:03.880
<v Speaker 2>don't know if they had like the animal heads, but

664
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:06.599
<v Speaker 2>they had a lot of like the really tall bearded

665
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.159
<v Speaker 2>winged depictions too.

666
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:12.559
<v Speaker 1>They did have the mixtures and the talk of it,

667
00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot too, of scorpions with human heads and all

668
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.599
<v Speaker 1>kinds of different things like ishtar had sticks or something

669
00:37:20.639 --> 00:37:24.159
<v Speaker 1>scorpions that guarded her gate and they had the heads

670
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:27.159
<v Speaker 1>of man, and they had the cow with the wings

671
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:32.440
<v Speaker 1>and the man head. Yeah, so it's common. But you

672
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:35.679
<v Speaker 1>also see that in Native America as well, with like

673
00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:39.079
<v Speaker 1>the Lakota tribe and different tribes. You hear about the

674
00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:43.159
<v Speaker 1>eagle headed man or the eagle headed man that walked

675
00:37:43.159 --> 00:37:46.639
<v Speaker 1>around and then and then you hear about the feathered

676
00:37:46.639 --> 00:37:51.199
<v Speaker 1>serpent and ctsa quattle in Mexico and down in South

677
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.239
<v Speaker 1>America and a feathered serpent. Well, you got to really

678
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:56.719
<v Speaker 1>ask yourself what that means. And when we see these pieces,

679
00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:58.840
<v Speaker 1>as I was just explaining, some of them have angel

680
00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:04.239
<v Speaker 1>looking wings and a serpent tail and so well fether's servants,

681
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, could this be related to that as well?

682
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:09.760
<v Speaker 1>And we see a lot of depictions of cats quads

683
00:38:09.880 --> 00:38:12.679
<v Speaker 1>on these pieces as well, so we think it's definitely

684
00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:13.639
<v Speaker 1>a same.

685
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I've storied, I've seen stuff about that linking it to

686
00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:25.880
<v Speaker 2>being a dragon. Yeah. I'm not sure if dragons were

687
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:27.840
<v Speaker 2>a real thing or not. I'm not even sure that

688
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of things I talk about on the sure

689
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:30.320
<v Speaker 2>real or not.

690
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:34.719
<v Speaker 1>But I'll give you one to chew one on that.

691
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:38.920
<v Speaker 1>So oh, yeah, sorry, No, you're fine.

692
00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna say, like, but that's always something that's

693
00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:43.920
<v Speaker 2>always been interesting, Like I'd like to think there were dragons,

694
00:38:43.960 --> 00:38:44.760
<v Speaker 2>would be pretty cool.

695
00:38:45.760 --> 00:38:49.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they very well could be. To start off, to

696
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.840
<v Speaker 1>say that they found a corpse or a fossilized remains

697
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:56.880
<v Speaker 1>of an entire dragon over in China, and this is

698
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the last year, I believe if you Google you'll find it.

699
00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:02.400
<v Speaker 1>It's it's absolutely breathtaking to see. I didn't hear it

700
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:05.320
<v Speaker 1>on the news, but it's it's a verified, verified dig.

701
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:08.639
<v Speaker 1>So that being said, if you look at the Catechists,

702
00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the symbol there for alchemy and pharmacy that's everywhere. It's

703
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:14.760
<v Speaker 1>got the staff with the two serpents going up and

704
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 1>the two wings at the top. Well that that symbol

705
00:39:18.239 --> 00:39:20.559
<v Speaker 1>might very well be the two sons of God and

706
00:39:20.679 --> 00:39:23.559
<v Speaker 1>Genesis he talks about and they talk about the sons

707
00:39:23.559 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 1>of God coming and having their way with the woman

708
00:39:26.159 --> 00:39:28.440
<v Speaker 1>of man, and so we we we believe that there's

709
00:39:28.480 --> 00:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>a possibility that those sons of God are actually the

710
00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>sons of the primordial dragon. And if you go into

711
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:37.159
<v Speaker 1>the story of Michael and Satan, you know Michael pushes

712
00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.599
<v Speaker 1>the red dragon satan from heaven with God's permission. Well,

713
00:39:41.320 --> 00:39:45.320
<v Speaker 1>in the Anonachi beliefs, the primordial dragon is the creator

714
00:39:45.360 --> 00:39:49.360
<v Speaker 1>of all, and so you hear primordial dragon there, and

715
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.519
<v Speaker 1>then you go to like the Hebrew language and look

716
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.639
<v Speaker 1>up with the with the Adam codman, and that's the

717
00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:59.639
<v Speaker 1>primordial man. And so it's interesting they call it Jesus

718
00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:02.519
<v Speaker 1>the a i'm cod moan because he's the primordial man.

719
00:40:02.599 --> 00:40:05.280
<v Speaker 1>So is it because he was the you know, son

720
00:40:05.320 --> 00:40:08.360
<v Speaker 1>of a primordial dragon and it embed his soul into

721
00:40:08.400 --> 00:40:11.199
<v Speaker 1>a man and then died and then that now that's

722
00:40:11.199 --> 00:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>a fixed genetic together when he ascended, and that's what

723
00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>the atom cod moon is or what they refer to

724
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:19.880
<v Speaker 1>as the Adom cod moan. And so it's really interesting

725
00:40:19.920 --> 00:40:22.679
<v Speaker 1>to see that trickle down through and how much influence

726
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:26.519
<v Speaker 1>like Moses, how the serpents fight, you know over him,

727
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:30.280
<v Speaker 1>and same with the Garden of Eden and the fact

728
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:32.920
<v Speaker 1>they call it a garden going back to my earlier

729
00:40:33.159 --> 00:40:36.199
<v Speaker 1>metaphor there with with you know, finding the good seeds.

730
00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:39.519
<v Speaker 1>But the fact they call it a garden is very

731
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>interesting too that they would use that to call it

732
00:40:42.480 --> 00:40:43.159
<v Speaker 1>for humans.

733
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:48.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think I've mentioned it on episode just

734
00:40:49.519 --> 00:40:52.079
<v Speaker 2>the one before this one. I've mentioned it a few

735
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:56.760
<v Speaker 2>other times, but if you listen or read into the Bible,

736
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:03.079
<v Speaker 2>God punished the serpent by taking away making him crawl

737
00:41:03.079 --> 00:41:06.400
<v Speaker 2>on his belly or whatever. So if you listen to that,

738
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 2>it almost makes it sound as if they were able

739
00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 2>to walk, and if they were of this I almost

740
00:41:15.559 --> 00:41:17.960
<v Speaker 2>go back to the whole alien concept again because it's

741
00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:20.639
<v Speaker 2>like almost sounds like a reptilian. The depiction almost sounds

742
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:26.519
<v Speaker 2>like a reptilian influencing Eve to eat the apple and

743
00:41:26.559 --> 00:41:28.599
<v Speaker 2>everything else. But there's also other things in there, like

744
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Eve is not necessarily Adam's first wife, like there was Lolith,

745
00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:36.719
<v Speaker 2>and like here's the you start going down that rabbit

746
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:39.119
<v Speaker 2>hole when it comes to like the Bible, there's so

747
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:41.239
<v Speaker 2>much things that you can pick apart to where he

748
00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:43.719
<v Speaker 2>can relate to other aspects, to other things.

749
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 1>But it's endless. Yeah, And that's the beauty of stories

750
00:41:48.920 --> 00:41:53.559
<v Speaker 1>and the imagination too, and thinking about things like you know,

751
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:56.039
<v Speaker 1>I often wonder if we just know the truth, like

752
00:41:56.119 --> 00:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>if man was given the truth at his inception, what

753
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.199
<v Speaker 1>that would have done? And would we even care? And

754
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:04.480
<v Speaker 1>would we take for granted all of this truth? And

755
00:42:05.039 --> 00:42:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I guarantee our conversation wouldn't be happening right now, and

756
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:10.800
<v Speaker 1>we wouldn't enjoy watching ancient aliens. And you know what

757
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:13.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean. So this great mystery they talk about it

758
00:42:13.719 --> 00:42:16.599
<v Speaker 1>in the Pistols Sophia as well as like the Lakota

759
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.679
<v Speaker 1>tribe they have this thing called the Great Mystery. And

760
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 1>what's interesting with the Lakota is they have the white

761
00:42:23.119 --> 00:42:26.800
<v Speaker 1>buffalo calf woman. And this is also something that spans

762
00:42:26.840 --> 00:42:30.559
<v Speaker 1>to the Mayan as well, and this could very well

763
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:34.079
<v Speaker 1>be the isis you know figure or divine womb that

764
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>speaks of in many ancient texts that gave birth to

765
00:42:37.920 --> 00:42:41.320
<v Speaker 1>all these species on this planet. And you got to

766
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:44.239
<v Speaker 1>ask yourself, like we have three trillion or some crazy

767
00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:47.360
<v Speaker 1>number of species, including the plants and insects, et cetera.

768
00:42:49.039 --> 00:42:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we see any new ones being born? That

769
00:42:51.960 --> 00:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>was always something that I'd ask my sign, like where's

770
00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:56.360
<v Speaker 1>the new species at? Like is there a place to

771
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:59.159
<v Speaker 1>see that happen? And it never happens. No one's ever

772
00:42:59.199 --> 00:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>witnessed it. And that's kind of bizarre when we have

773
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:04.719
<v Speaker 1>so many How does that work? You know? And the

774
00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:07.320
<v Speaker 1>logic is is in the Pistas Sofia. It says that

775
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>they took the sofia away and that's how they stopped

776
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:14.119
<v Speaker 1>the fallen from succeeding as they did in the beginning.

777
00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:18.440
<v Speaker 1>So likely the fallen abused this womb or this genetic manipulation,

778
00:43:18.519 --> 00:43:21.599
<v Speaker 1>and then once the divine womb was taken away, they

779
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't create any new species on this planet. And that's

780
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:26.920
<v Speaker 1>likely why we're in this stale made of species that

781
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:30.480
<v Speaker 1>we're in. Or I shouldn't say likely, but if the

782
00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:33.400
<v Speaker 1>stories are true, then that would be I guess likely.

783
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:37.480
<v Speaker 2>I've never thought about the fact that there's not new

784
00:43:37.559 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 2>species because you always hear about them discovering species.

785
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:44.199
<v Speaker 1>But there's fossil records of them.

786
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:46.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't ever think about the fact that they're

787
00:43:46.639 --> 00:43:49.760
<v Speaker 2>not new. They're new to us, but they're not a

788
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.039
<v Speaker 2>brand new species, right.

789
00:43:53.199 --> 00:43:53.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

790
00:43:53.400 --> 00:43:56.119
<v Speaker 1>It just weird odds to not have new you know,

791
00:43:56.199 --> 00:43:58.519
<v Speaker 1>with that many especially in the plant world and stuff.

792
00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 1>And what's crazy is we have all these geneticists that

793
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:04.280
<v Speaker 1>do you know, genetic I guess you could call it

794
00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:09.239
<v Speaker 1>genetic manipulation with crisper, with plant grafting and genetic spicing

795
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and all this different stuff that we do. But you

796
00:44:13.039 --> 00:44:14.679
<v Speaker 1>don't ever create a new species.

797
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know that. Yeah, I know that they've It

798
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:25.039
<v Speaker 2>was back in the nineties they cloned a sheep, and

799
00:44:25.039 --> 00:44:27.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they've been closing out. They've never

800
00:44:27.719 --> 00:44:30.599
<v Speaker 2>publicly talked about cloning anything else, but I've wondered if

801
00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:35.400
<v Speaker 2>they've never tried to clone something else that's already been extinct.

802
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.079
<v Speaker 2>I know there's talk about like what the mammoth or something.

803
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, people are heavily invested. I know people who

804
00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.039
<v Speaker 1>have invested in this project that's supposed to do that

805
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:46.840
<v Speaker 1>by I think it's twenty twenty seven or something like that.

806
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:50.039
<v Speaker 2>So I watched something before about it, But I don't know.

807
00:44:52.000 --> 00:44:54.159
<v Speaker 2>I feel like if they're talking about it publicly, they've

808
00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:56.079
<v Speaker 2>probably already done it behind closed doors.

809
00:44:57.199 --> 00:44:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly, And yeah, I agree.

810
00:45:00.800 --> 00:45:03.719
<v Speaker 2>But if they're doing stuff like that, to me, it's

811
00:45:03.719 --> 00:45:10.519
<v Speaker 2>almost like playing God. So at some point, if without

812
00:45:10.599 --> 00:45:14.239
<v Speaker 2>going down that whole religious rabbit hole, but if back

813
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:16.840
<v Speaker 2>in the old biblical times of God punished them for

814
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:19.360
<v Speaker 2>some of the things they were doing, then I'm waiting

815
00:45:19.400 --> 00:45:21.519
<v Speaker 2>for the punishment to come back, if that was all true,

816
00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:25.440
<v Speaker 2>because I feel like what the world does nowadays seems

817
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:26.760
<v Speaker 2>to be a little bit worse than what they're doing

818
00:45:26.800 --> 00:45:27.639
<v Speaker 2>back in the old days.

819
00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:31.679
<v Speaker 1>Punishment's a really interesting thing in the Bible. And I

820
00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:36.599
<v Speaker 1>take this very seriously because I researched these people called

821
00:45:36.639 --> 00:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>the Cathar and they were very, very Christian toting people

822
00:45:41.079 --> 00:45:44.239
<v Speaker 1>that believed in Jesus and the Saving and all this stuff.

823
00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Yet in the I think it was like the eleven

824
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:50.480
<v Speaker 1>of the Thirteen hundreds, they were completely eradicated, man, woman

825
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:53.400
<v Speaker 1>and child. No no one was spared. They were all

826
00:45:53.400 --> 00:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>burned at the stake for being heretics because they believed

827
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:00.280
<v Speaker 1>that there was two gods in the Bible, not just one,

828
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 1>but the God of the Old Testament was evil and

829
00:46:03.800 --> 00:46:06.199
<v Speaker 1>the God in the New Testament was actually the real God.

830
00:46:06.599 --> 00:46:09.039
<v Speaker 1>And so the God in the Old Testament was actually

831
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:13.320
<v Speaker 1>Satan after the fall, and he was pushed and fell

832
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:16.840
<v Speaker 1>into his own universe. So he wanted to dethrone God

833
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.199
<v Speaker 1>and take over, but he wasn't there. So God gave

834
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.800
<v Speaker 1>him essentially his own universe by allowing that push to occur.

835
00:46:23.480 --> 00:46:26.840
<v Speaker 1>And so that's why you know it's a fallen universe

836
00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:29.880
<v Speaker 1>or a fallen you know, all these things, and why

837
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<v Speaker 1>in the beginning, he says, well, let there be light.

838
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:34.800
<v Speaker 1>That was him asking for the light to come into

839
00:46:34.800 --> 00:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>this dark universe that he had fell into, but was

840
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:40.400
<v Speaker 1>actually the devil speaking and he claimed to be God.

841
00:46:40.639 --> 00:46:43.039
<v Speaker 1>That's why Zeus is the god of God's likely and

842
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:47.079
<v Speaker 1>he fell from the sky. He probably was Satan. Is

843
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:50.920
<v Speaker 1>what we're thinking is a possibility based on you know,

844
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.960
<v Speaker 1>all these stories and the consistencies of you know, the

845
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:58.679
<v Speaker 1>Ankee and little Ego versus the serpent tobaccle that all

846
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:01.159
<v Speaker 1>these cultures have been in and you see all these

847
00:47:01.199 --> 00:47:04.880
<v Speaker 1>serpent temples and flags that have the ego on there,

848
00:47:04.639 --> 00:47:07.039
<v Speaker 1>and there's there's deep roots to that, you know.

849
00:47:08.840 --> 00:47:12.559
<v Speaker 2>If you notice in the Old Testament compared to the

850
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:16.960
<v Speaker 2>New Testament. I've mentioned this before too, God was very

851
00:47:18.559 --> 00:47:22.360
<v Speaker 2>like ruthless in the Old Testament, like he was a

852
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:25.400
<v Speaker 2>very different He was not a loving god. He was

853
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:27.800
<v Speaker 2>a very much I'll wipe y'all out type of God,

854
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:32.360
<v Speaker 2>like don't screw around. And then in the New Testament, Oh,

855
00:47:32.400 --> 00:47:35.440
<v Speaker 2>he gives you his son and like he's now one

856
00:47:35.599 --> 00:47:38.320
<v Speaker 2>lovey and everything else, Like there's a complete like one

857
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:42.159
<v Speaker 2>eighty from the very vengeful God, the jealous God to

858
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 2>be honest of the Old Testament to the New Testament.

859
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:47.880
<v Speaker 2>So it is almost like they're completely different.

860
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:50.880
<v Speaker 1>That's why I think the cath our people might actually

861
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:52.880
<v Speaker 1>be right. The cap are people believed in the Book

862
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:55.440
<v Speaker 1>of Enoch and a lot of ENOCHI and teachings, and

863
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:58.119
<v Speaker 1>that Book of Enoch is really important. You know, it's

864
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:01.239
<v Speaker 1>not part of the mechanical Bible, but it's absolutely something

865
00:48:01.239 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>that's mentioned all over in mechanical Bible, which is I

866
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.480
<v Speaker 1>think a relatively important factor to its importance and its

867
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:11.119
<v Speaker 1>reality of being true and or at least a real book.

868
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:13.280
<v Speaker 1>And I think they don't accept it because they don't

869
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:18.119
<v Speaker 1>know who the author is. But nonetheless that those people,

870
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:20.480
<v Speaker 1>if they were right. You know this the whole reason

871
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:24.119
<v Speaker 1>that this these pieces might be kept a secret could

872
00:48:24.199 --> 00:48:29.440
<v Speaker 1>be that war that has been going on spiritually for

873
00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 1>thousands of years that they talk about, and that might

874
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:35.480
<v Speaker 1>be why those Catholart people were wiped out, you know,

875
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:39.320
<v Speaker 1>just just because of they didn't agree with the history

876
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:42.719
<v Speaker 1>that was being narrated. It wasn't the truth it was

877
00:48:42.760 --> 00:48:45.039
<v Speaker 1>being narrated. And that's why we find so many things

878
00:48:45.039 --> 00:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that we've we just don't we don't have the trust

879
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:50.360
<v Speaker 1>in our own history at this point because it's being

880
00:48:51.360 --> 00:48:55.159
<v Speaker 1>rewritten or mangled. You know. You look at like the

881
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Native Americans and stuff, and what they did just in

882
00:48:59.079 --> 00:49:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the eighteen ninety these they took and there's a sacred

883
00:49:02.559 --> 00:49:06.599
<v Speaker 1>dance that the Lakota tribe would do called the Sun Dance,

884
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and they made it a federally illegal thing to perform.

885
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:14.840
<v Speaker 1>You could not do this. And back then it wasn't

886
00:49:14.880 --> 00:49:16.960
<v Speaker 1>just you're gonna go to jail for the weekend. You know,

887
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:20.320
<v Speaker 1>it was a serious thing that your tribe was violating

888
00:49:20.519 --> 00:49:23.400
<v Speaker 1>and would be probably put to death. I mean, I'm

889
00:49:23.400 --> 00:49:25.360
<v Speaker 1>not gonna say that for sure, but but back then

890
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 1>it was a different story with the whole thing with

891
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.880
<v Speaker 1>reservations and how they were segregating and doing all this.

892
00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 1>But the fact that the United States federal government had

893
00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:37.000
<v Speaker 1>enough knowledge to know that fasting and that this sacred

894
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:41.519
<v Speaker 1>dance needed to be stopped for whatever purpose, there's obviously

895
00:49:41.559 --> 00:49:43.880
<v Speaker 1>more to the story than what they're letting us believe,

896
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:48.800
<v Speaker 1>because what would be their reasonings. It's a dance, you know.

897
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's very strange that would be that concerned about

898
00:49:53.760 --> 00:49:54.280
<v Speaker 2>a dance.

899
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:58.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and this is on Wikipedia. I researched this like,

900
00:49:58.559 --> 00:50:01.719
<v Speaker 1>it's just the look Coda tribe is really interesting. I

901
00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I've fallen down another rabbit hole with Native American history.

902
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:09.000
<v Speaker 1>And if you look at religions like Mormonism, for instance,

903
00:50:09.039 --> 00:50:12.760
<v Speaker 1>they they believe that, you know, that Jesus came to

904
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the Americas at one point, which is, you know, hard

905
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.719
<v Speaker 1>to buy in terms. But unless maybe this, this whole

906
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:22.599
<v Speaker 1>story is connected, and that's that's what they're talking about.

907
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:27.039
<v Speaker 1>We've even conceptualized that it's possible that Ankie and Keetsi

908
00:50:27.079 --> 00:50:30.519
<v Speaker 1>Kuoppo was a previous version of Jesus because in the

909
00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Bible says Jesus descended down from heaven. What was his

910
00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.559
<v Speaker 1>name before? Was he always Jesus up there or did

911
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:39.440
<v Speaker 1>he take the name Jesus when he was born as

912
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:41.800
<v Speaker 1>a human. And that's what we have to ask, is

913
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:44.920
<v Speaker 1>who was he before? And the Jehovah's witness believed that

914
00:50:44.960 --> 00:50:48.119
<v Speaker 1>he was Michael before. And if that's the case, then

915
00:50:48.159 --> 00:50:51.519
<v Speaker 1>it could be that Michael is actually Ankie. And and

916
00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:54.039
<v Speaker 1>that's why the two sons of God, Ankie and Enlil,

917
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:56.880
<v Speaker 1>are the serpents that are crawling up that staff of

918
00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:00.800
<v Speaker 1>the catechists trying to manipulate Moses and can troll humans

919
00:51:00.880 --> 00:51:01.719
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. You know.

920
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:06.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's a lot to think about when you

921
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.960
<v Speaker 2>go down that rabit hole like it. Yeah, I try

922
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:12.440
<v Speaker 2>not to thought i'd do this. Yeah, yeah, I try

923
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.000
<v Speaker 2>not to go down that pathway too much. But it

924
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:16.559
<v Speaker 2>is one of those things that I kind of think

925
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:20.639
<v Speaker 2>about here and there, just because there is so much

926
00:51:21.320 --> 00:51:25.039
<v Speaker 2>out there. And then if you start looking at things

927
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:29.559
<v Speaker 2>and you start putting things together, like it almost sounds plausible,

928
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:33.119
<v Speaker 2>like it makes more sense than what the cover story is.

929
00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:37.079
<v Speaker 1>I gave up on all of it. I spent twenty

930
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:41.280
<v Speaker 1>five plus thirty years of where I just I was agnostic.

931
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:43.559
<v Speaker 1>I didn't have a belief I didn't know what to believe,

932
00:51:43.599 --> 00:51:46.360
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't didn't believe in any of it. Angyans

933
00:51:46.400 --> 00:51:48.599
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. I just didn't. I didn't. I just

934
00:51:48.639 --> 00:51:53.679
<v Speaker 1>couldn't justify it, you know. And and yeah, it's really

935
00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:57.480
<v Speaker 1>it's something that I just can't even believe I'm sitting

936
00:51:57.480 --> 00:51:59.400
<v Speaker 1>here talking to you about that type of stuff, you know.

937
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I never thought I would be someone to discuss that,

938
00:52:02.880 --> 00:52:03.039
<v Speaker 1>you know.

939
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, if there's anything else you'd like to talk

940
00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:14.199
<v Speaker 2>about with comes to your like the upcoming documentary and

941
00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:16.480
<v Speaker 2>anything else. We can do that now and then we

942
00:52:16.519 --> 00:52:18.280
<v Speaker 2>can probably wrap this on ump because I've been going

943
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:19.039
<v Speaker 2>on for about an hour.

944
00:52:20.039 --> 00:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Absolutely, as far as the documentary, on September eleventh,

945
00:52:25.039 --> 00:52:29.239
<v Speaker 1>on our YouTube channel at Alien Carvings, we'll have our documentary.

946
00:52:29.239 --> 00:52:34.440
<v Speaker 1>It's free for everybody. The families down there allowed us

947
00:52:34.679 --> 00:52:39.360
<v Speaker 1>to get you know, uncensored dig videos and to publish

948
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:42.519
<v Speaker 1>all of this with all the petroglyphs, the tunnels, you

949
00:52:42.559 --> 00:52:45.880
<v Speaker 1>know how they do things, different digs out up on

950
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the hillside, just to show you know, how this stuff's

951
00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:55.760
<v Speaker 1>being found. And yeah, go from there, but yeah, stay

952
00:52:55.800 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 1>tuned or our YouTube channel or subscriber or whatnot.

953
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:03.599
<v Speaker 2>I'll make sure to include a link in the show

954
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:05.519
<v Speaker 2>notes for anyone out there that way they can just

955
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:09.920
<v Speaker 2>go to it. Because I'm looking at my release schedule

956
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:13.039
<v Speaker 2>and you said September eleven, that would actually be right

957
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:14.559
<v Speaker 2>around the time this comes out.

958
00:53:14.519 --> 00:53:18.239
<v Speaker 1>So oh cool, right on, a good deal, so.

959
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:21.400
<v Speaker 2>I should kind of work itself out around the same timeframe.

960
00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:25.119
<v Speaker 2>So if you're listening to this episode now, it's probably

961
00:53:25.119 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 2>getting ready to come out or it just came out.

962
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:31.199
<v Speaker 2>To make sure to go to Alien Carving's YouTube channel.

963
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:36.679
<v Speaker 2>Watch it. Well, Mike, it's been a pleasure talking with you.

964
00:53:37.440 --> 00:53:38.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you as well.

965
00:53:39.360 --> 00:53:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, Yeah, I definitely appreciate it. If you ever come

966
00:53:43.119 --> 00:53:45.840
<v Speaker 2>across anything more interesting again or anything like that, just

967
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:47.559
<v Speaker 2>make sure to reach out to me and I'll make

968
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:48.639
<v Speaker 2>sure to have you back on here.

969
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it. I will do all right.

970
00:53:51.360 --> 00:54:00.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, you have a good night, you too, And that's

971
00:54:00.559 --> 00:54:03.679
<v Speaker 2>the show everyone. I really hope you guys enjoyed the conversations.

972
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:06.239
<v Speaker 2>If you would like to be a guest on tenfoil Tels,

973
00:54:06.320 --> 00:54:09.119
<v Speaker 2>remember to send an email to Tenfoil Tales Podcast at

974
00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:11.840
<v Speaker 2>gmail dot com or go to the contact section of

975
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:14.639
<v Speaker 2>tenfoiltal dot com. Just get your message to me. We'll

976
00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:17.440
<v Speaker 2>get some schedule for a future episode. And just remember

977
00:54:17.719 --> 00:54:20.119
<v Speaker 2>the truth lies, and the stories we share, the connections

978
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:23.119
<v Speaker 2>we make, stay curiously open minded. Thank you all for

979
00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:26.199
<v Speaker 2>joining us on this journey, and until next time, keep questioning,

980
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:29.719
<v Speaker 2>keep seeking, and keep exploring the unknown. Good night everyone, seen.

981
00:54:29.719 --> 00:54:31.119
<v Speaker 4>On sounds in the headphones.

982
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's turn to rock.

983
00:54:33.960 --> 00:54:35.760
<v Speaker 4>Got a story about a crypty creature.

984
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:41.280
<v Speaker 5>Let's take a walk thigs foot somewer. They're out there

985
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:45.079
<v Speaker 5>in the talk but the truth is out there likingly

986
00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:46.199
<v Speaker 5>as fuck.

987
00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:53.599
<v Speaker 4>Us. Both signings got the whole world show conspiracies fons

988
00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 4>like a story in the book Console sign to keep us.

989
00:55:01.239 --> 00:55:03.719
<v Speaker 4>We're all gonna use the whole mind.

990
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:07.000
<v Speaker 3>In history.

991
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.960
<v Speaker 6>They don't want us to know the secrets they hide,

992
00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:17.639
<v Speaker 6>since they will show No, they don't Society, they keep

993
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:18.119
<v Speaker 6>us in.

994
00:55:18.199 --> 00:55:40.519
<v Speaker 3>Chase on them in time, it's time to break the reins.

995
00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:49.280
<v Speaker 4>Control trying to keep us fine, but I'm beore gonna.

996
00:55:49.079 --> 00:55:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Use a mind.

997
00:55:53.119 --> 00:55:53.880
<v Speaker 2>In history.

998
00:55:54.199 --> 00:55:59.039
<v Speaker 7>They want us to know the secrets that hide since

999
00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:05.760
<v Speaker 7>they will show Salmada, Society, thank you us and Chase.

1000
00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:11.039
<v Speaker 3>Listening talk this sound to break the reins.

1001
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm