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So from the logo with Jimper for Dead, there's a

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couple of interesting sound by year. This is Jemper for

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Det's take on Ajdbod versus Darren Peterson, who he would

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take first overall in the MBA drapped up this year.

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Who's the real number one NBA pick? Between Dayren Peterson

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and ajd Botcha? This is Jebber for DET talking about it.

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Speaker 4: Darren is more polished right now. I would go AJ

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number one. Like you think the ceiling is higher. I

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think his ceiling is higher. Darren is going to go

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into the NBA. He probably he could average twenty points

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in the NBA today. He's a great shooter. He can pass,

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he can handle the ball, He's good in the pick

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and roll. It seems really easy for him. It's effortless,

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which is a sign of obviously a great scorer. And

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I was really impressed with how he came out and

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played against AJ. I just can't get wrapped around how

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good AJ could be. He reminds me of kind of

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like a Cooper Flag. Cooper Flag's probably a little bit

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better offensively right.

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Speaker 3: Now, but AJ could be that type of player. And

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if you're that type of player.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's average twenty points a game right now,

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he's bringing records. I would go AJ number one because

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of the upside on the NICHELO.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'll let you react to this, Ronnie.

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Speaker 2: Then I'll bring you up the caboose on my thoughts

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regarding the AJ slash DNP debate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the first thing to know is that

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I agree with the about the Cooper flag part of it. Now,

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we only heard a clip of it. We didn't hear

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everything else in between. There's some other stuff going on

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with Darren Peterson. We don't know if they comments on it.

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That's just the commoness is. But I think that's the

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first thing you have to take into account that the

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reason Darren Peterson is the more polished player all around

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one hundred percent. You can see it on the court.

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be at you know, Darren Peterson's mercy. He can do whatever,

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he can sit out as like Kawhi Leonard, you know what.

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Speaker 3: Stuff.

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Speaker 5: You know, whether it's the guy is injured, the guy

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you know, it's kind of like what the whole people say,

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front office, but they could lose their job. But to

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Your best ability is availability. That has to matter. We

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heard it early in the show from Ari Tempkin, eleven assists.

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Are we serious? Like from a guy that's gonna be

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a guard. Then you look at all the guards, Darius Garland,

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Donovan Mitchell, Jaylen Brown, you look at Jalen Brunson. You

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can't just score it. You have to facilitate too, And

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a lot of these guys can facilitate and get into

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the four, five, six, eight or double digit assists. You know,

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and his availability is the biggest thing. So I think, yes,

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with the upside with the availability, with how AJ's playing now, now,

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But if AJ keeps doing what he's doing and Darren

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continues to not be able to play in these games.

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we seeing, it doesn't matter. I think you're gonna see that.

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taking AJ with what I've seen now. That could change

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next month, but as of right now, I think today,

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excuse me. February twentieth, twenty twenty six. AJ de Bons

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is the number one overall pick and you've seen the

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way he's been playing this last month, but he's been

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on the tear. The only issue is BYU has no depth.

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That's why AJ is not in the Big twelve Player

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that year conversation, some of these other things. But he

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leads the nation and scoring been at twenty four point eight.

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That's ridiculous, like twenty five points a game. Again, I

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say it. This's the only reason AJ's not getting more

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hype and b yu is is because they're one in

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six against a peop whole top twenty five teams. You

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got no win against Texas Tech, Kansas been, You're lost

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on the road against Oklahoma State. You didn't beat Arizona twice,

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Like that's the reason. That's the reason Ben, Now, if

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you beat Iowa State, you beat Texas Tech, maybe you

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can get into that. But for the most part, Ben,

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that's the reason why maybe noise hasn't been made by

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AJ is because you got the stats, but you don't

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have the wins to go and you're not the best

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team in the Big twelve.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Great thoughts there from Ronald the three man weaver. Look,

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as Jimmer pointed out initially said, Darren's more polished, AJ

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has more upside. This is a conversation, literally that extends

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that we've been having on this show. I was told

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over a year and a half ago, this same this

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same premise, this same tenant, this same conversation that we

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were having over a year and a half ago, that

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Darren is the more refined score, the better player right now.

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Speaker 3: But AJ has the best upside.

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Speaker 2: He's a he's a he's a developing monstrous baby's giraffe

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right now and he's gonna become just this, this this

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beast eventually. Darren Peterson I think is the best scorer

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in college basketball, and I don't really think it's closed.

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I really don't like if he he would like if

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he played, you know, equivalent minutes he's playing thirty five

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minutes a game. I think the points permit it played.

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be the Nasmith Award winner just because of how productive

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he can be and how.

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Speaker 3: Efficient he can be. Now, my biggest question is how.

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Speaker 2: Injury prone is Darren Peterson, Like is are these true

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injuries or are these faked injuries that he's just like,

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I just don't want to play, and I want to

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limit the load on my knees, my back, my ankles,

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my body, Like there's no reason for me to play.

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Like it's my Robert or big shot Bob theory right, Like,

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I'm gonna go play when it matters most, and I

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got a great team around me. I don't need to

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play more than eighteen minutes a game. I don't need

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to play every single game I need to play. I

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need to be ready in March madness. So I'm I'm

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of the thought process, Like if he goes off in

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the NC Double A tournament and he balls out, he's

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playing thirty five minutes a game and he's you know,

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he's the leading scorer in the NC DOUBLEA tournament and

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Kansas is going deep and going to an Elite eight

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Final four. I think it's gonna be hard for NBA

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gms to not.

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Speaker 3: Take Darren because of what they.

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Speaker 2: Deem as an immediate impact player, and not to say

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aj is not an immediate impact player.

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Speaker 3: He is, but.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if AJ do you Okay, let me

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ask you this, Ronnie, do you think aj next year

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in the NBA will have as big of an impact

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as Cooper Flag has had on the NBA this year?

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Do you think AJ's in the same realm, same spot

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Speaker 5: You know what I mean, that's a very good question.

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he gets drafted. Ben, if he's in the Western Athletic Conference,

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in how deep that conference is, I would have to

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say no, because look where Cooper's at. He's with the Mavericks.

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Speaker 2: Cooper's averaging twenty points, games, rebounds, four point one assist.

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Speaker 3: I believe, I.

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Speaker 5: Believe Ajie will average the same, but I believe.

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Speaker 2: Man and then I think forty six percent from the

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three point line.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's not gonna have that it''s not gonna have

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the forty six percent from three. Not gonna give him that.

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free done. We need to keep track being of how

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doesn't matter in college basketball. And I know we heard

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in the first segment, you know of Richie Saunders, but

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look they the way they play defense. I said this.

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I said Yegor would be fine. I said the shot

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would improve and the spacing Kevin Young told you, And

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look at what it is, rising Star. This is gonna

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be the same thing AJ's bait of the of how

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he gets you, the foul bait, the hand discipline is

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gonna go away a little bit in the NBA because

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he's gonna be the spacing is gonna allow Asy to

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get to the basket so much so, I believe AG's

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gonna have the same numbers. I believe he's gonna have

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the same type of impact, not from three. But you're

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not gonna hear about it, really because he's gonna be

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on one of the worst teams you know, Cooper again,

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worst teams because of injuries all those things. But yes,

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I believe he's gonna have the same impact, And I

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think you need to take it a step further. They

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putting out projections been for the twenty twenty eight Olympic team.

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AJ has a chance to be on that. I legit

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believe that. I don't believe that's hyperble like with his

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skill set been and how far he's gonna be able

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chance to really be an all time great at the

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next level. So yes, I believe I have the same

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impact as Cooper flag if not more.

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If the injury issues that that Darren Peterson has experience

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over the last two years are actually accurate, like that

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he's actually injury prone, then you can't take him because

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obviously the best ability is your availability. You can't take

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him right, you can't take him first overall, And AJ

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of the competitive nature, because he cares about winning. He's

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got that dog in him and wants to win championships,

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Kawhi Leonard And and I just don't you know, you

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don't want Kawhi. You don't want Kawhi to build around

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you just don't. You don't want to build a team

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all of the all of this stuff. I think he

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will drop. You know, if if the injuries are accurate, right,

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if these are like cramping and ankle tweaks and soft

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tissue and all this stuff he's got like some sort

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of underlying issue, then then he'll drop. Is he If

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he balls out in the NCAA tournament and like leafs

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Cancer to a final four, like he may go first overall? Guys,

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we we are coach, our organization will be different. We can,

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we can, we gotta take a chance but we gotta

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go get him, and that's just the nature of it.

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Speaker 5: I agree with you, Ben, but isn't it It's Look,

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let's just tell the fans that, look, I served a mission.

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Speaker 5: But it's been is damned if I do, damned if

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I don't. That's what the situation is with Darren Peterson. Okay,

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so he balls out in the final four. Okay, so

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he loaded managing college, which is really bad. So he

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messed it up, like Kendrick Perkins said, for the rest

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of athletes for college of basketball. But if we don't,

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we're fired. What if he does go off? Okay, he's

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not really heard with the NBA dread like that's what

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maybe they're not praying for this, that's probably the wrong thing.

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To say, but some of those people are hoping that

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he just doesn't play March madness. So you can take

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you're gonna be so mad. Yeah, but that's the thing.

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pick for the Bears of you pass and he goes

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to the Super Bowl, been you're fired, like you won't

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get a job ever. Again, that's the sucky part. But

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be the number one overall pick, and that very well

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and this is not a hot take. Darren Peterson hitting

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that three and whoever caught it on video on him

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pointing back to Bill self ruined the credibility of Darren

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Peterson's honesty going forward. And I don't know who in

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this corner is telling him that and ruined the future

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of those going to college athletics. I believe that can

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be in a way of basketball. And maybe I'm not

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explaining at the best, but that low managing if he's

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doing any heat balls out, Ben and he tests fine

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and there's no sign of injuries. You will have duped

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all of those in the NCAA. You will have cost

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Kansas a potential chance, you know, to have a great season.

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talk is going to be other kids are not gonna

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get the benefit of it out because of that. And

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he's not gonna care, right, He's gonna go get his

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selfishly Yana idiada. But I just think Darren petersons that

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that video bill will be that's that's encrypted in college

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basketball forever. That might ruin the future of it for

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kids in the future that have to go through things

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because of what Darren did.

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Speaker 3: And I don't like that. If that's the case, let's

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Speaker 3: In my opinion. All right, let's get back to this SoundBite.

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Pete Sousans pe Sports Nation.

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Speaker 2: Pete discusses aj over Darren Peterson said the best ability

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is availability. Let's tune in as Pete Sousa prognosticates and

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projects who can go first overall and become maybe Big

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twelve Player of the year for the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 8: I'd say jay to Bons in my opinion and and

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and the reason, and I'll take an opportunity because I've

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being out and still water and you go, you go

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to the shooter rounds, right, you talk to Bill self

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Kansas there shoot around it is like a well oiled machine.

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And I can tell you there is nothing but love

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between Darren Peterson and his teammates. I mean, I saw

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that firsthand, and you can't fake it, right, But you

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all so can't ignore that there's some strange around that situation.

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And I said this, and I'm never and I told

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you so, guy, because I'm usually wrong, but I said this.

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I said this weeks or months ago. I thought AJ

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was the better player simply because I like his game more.

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mean a lot of times, that's why the three of

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us have the jobs that we do, because we knew

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that when somebody called us to go call a game

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or host the show, if they were going to give

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us a nickel on the dollar, it didn't matter.

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Speaker 3: We were going to.

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Speaker 6: Show up and be there.

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Speaker 8: And I think that that is what separates AJ from

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a player like Darren Peterson.

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Speaker 6: And this isn't you know. I'm not looking for an.

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Speaker 8: Opportunity to talk negatively about Darren Peterson, but I want

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to bring reality into the picture and say I like

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AJ's game more than I like Darren Peterson's game, and

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I also love his availability and toughness more than Darren Peterson's.

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And I don't know much about Darren Peterson's family, but

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I do know about AJ's family and his mom and

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his so you guys have got to.

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Speaker 6: Know very well at this point just knowing that story.

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You know you're the son of.

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Speaker 8: A police officer in Boston, Dude, Like that is to me?

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That personifies grit and toughness. Yes, that we usually don't

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see from an elite level prospect or player like like

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like AJ, And I think that it makes him very

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very special.

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Speaker 2: Special indeed, No, I I just think once again, like

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it's what I leaned into early this year. AJ is

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a competitor and continues to compete no matter what the

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situation is. And that's what you want if you're trying

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to build a championship. If you want to build a championship,

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take him one first overall, Given that the player of

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the year, who else would be there?

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Speaker 3: Right, Fleming?

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Speaker 2: Do you think who else would be in competition with

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I don't Thinkdarren Peterson's there. Who do you got as

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as player of the year, Big twelve, Ronald the three

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man Weaver?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it comes down to two people. Been

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Chancellor Johnson who play out a video and I agree

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with them as well. You can go to follow that

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a Chancer Johnson TV. But it comes down I think

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the Kingston Fleming and braiden Berry's and again they may

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they may not necessarily be the best players been on

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their team, and they there well could be too when

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you look at the numbers Josh Jefferson's in that conversation,

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I think as well. But winning does matter. I've mentioned

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it multiple times and guys, look, I know what I'm

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saying is right. You can't be the fifth best player

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in the conference and win play of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: I could be wrong, you know, like Pete says lots

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of the times, I am wrong Ben, but I know

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that for a surety that I don't think that will.

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I think he will win a Newcomer of the Year,

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and I don't think he will be close. I do

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think he'll get that one. But I do think that

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a Player of the Year will come down to Kingston

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Fleming and braiden Berry's, and I think that game been

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will be decided on Saturday as those two teams meet.

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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, last thing, last thing I do want to

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get to the Mark Pope SoundBite, real quick. Mark Pope,

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former b YU head coach now the Kentucky head coach,

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was asked a question from the meeting about what advice

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he would give to the aspiring journalists that were in.

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Speaker 3: The room there at the University of Kentucky. This was

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his response.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was appointed and positive and uh uh,

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and take some introspection here all you potential journalists out there.

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Speaker 7: Which I've got twelve students here from my journalism classic,

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what kind of advice would you give to at a

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young aspiring journals. Oh, that's dangerous, that's a dangerous, dangerous question.

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I would tell you guys that you're in a really

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complicated space from my position where unfortunately you're just going

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to be graded on clicks, like that's just what you're

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graded on, and and and so you're you're that makes

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your job hard. It makes this job really hard because

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you can get cheap clicks or you can get clicks

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for being great at what you do. And it's probably

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like everything in life, and that's just that's the challenge.

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You know, you have experienced media crew in here, but

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that's probably the question you're going to ask yourself. Am

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I gonna go Am I gonna go down the road

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of just getting the cheap clicks? Or am I gonna

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get the clicks by being the most real, authentic, truth

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telling hardcore journalist. A lot of people would say that

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that can't exist anymore, that long form is gone and

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real truth telling is gone, and you just have to

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put out the headline is inauthentic or manufactured as it

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might be, you just have to put it out because

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you got to get clicks, you got to earn a reputation.

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You got to do it that way. But I don't

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know if that's advice, but I do from my perspective,

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that's the biggest question you're gonna have to answer as

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a journalist. And and for my money, if you are

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a great, if you want to be great, you're gonna

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probably do the impossible. And that's gonna be like you're

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gonna you're gonna stay away from the cheap click manufactured, artificial,

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skewed headline and you're gonna become like the world's greatest storyteller.

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Because I will tell you this. I talked to our

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media about this too. Storytellers have the power in the

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world right now, you know, I think in this space

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where facts can get skewed all kinds of ways. It's

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storytellers that actually have the power, but it comes with

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an immense responsibility. And I think if you can become

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a great, great, authentic, hard hitting storyteller that is really

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searching for the truth, the greatness of stories is actually

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in the truth rather than just searching for the clicks.

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I think it's pretty well, that's my two cents. I'm

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not in the media, but that's my thought.

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Speaker 2: No, I think I think that's great insight from Mark Pope,

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very very powerful.

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Welcome in the voice of the Iowa State Cyclones, the

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director of broadcasting. We got John Walters online, John, how

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you live it?

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Speaker 6: Things are great? Uh, happy to join you. And it's

508
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been a been a very fun season for Iowa State

509
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and it's zipping right along, so that makes the winners

510
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go a little faster. Your names.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about Iowa State's favorite in this game. I

512
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think it opened at three and a half uh and

513
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I think that's uh uh doing part because they are

514
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such a good team. Now they're not the same team

515
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on the road as they are at home. They're in

516
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names that that's a that's one of the best teams

517
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in the country. Is still one of the best teams

518
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in the country I think on the road. But how

519
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would you describe, uh, the trajectory of this Iowa State

520
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Cyclones team right now?

521
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Speaker 6: Well, they you know, they did have some some road winds.

522
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Certainly the win at Purdue by twenty three when they

523
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were ranked number one in the nation early in the season,

524
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got a lot of people's attention. But you're right, they've

525
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been especially strong at home where they're eighteen and zero.

526
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But you know, this is a team that is it

527
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has avoided big roles in their schedule. You know, they've

528
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been able to if they have a game or two

529
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where they don't play particularly well, bounce back and kind

530
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of refocus and re energize and get back where they

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need to be. And so that's been kind of the

532
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strength of this team. I think it comes from senior

533
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leadership with Tim and Lipsey and Joshua Jefferson. I think

534
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it comes from a corps that returned with those two guys.

535
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Plpost be on Monchilo Beach and made Heisei. I just

536
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has a lot of guys that are back from last

537
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year's team, which you know, in this day of college basketball,

538
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is a little bit rare, and so I think that

539
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was a great starting point. And then when some freshmen

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around them and transferm Blake Buchanan who has had a

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big impact, and it's been a good mix. And I

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was staying as been able to because they're a very

543
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close team, not get caught in those long slumps that

544
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can sometimes affect you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a well coached team. They're a well

546
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constructed team from a personnel standpoint. And how would you

547
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describe the skill set, the overall skill set of this

548
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team in what they do best.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know that they're, you know, the most

550
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athletic talented team in college basketball, but they play really

551
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well together and they have a lot of good individual parts.

552
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I mean, Joshua Jefferson is a Wooden Award Top twenty guy.

553
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He's having a great season. Milan Mumchilovich has become the

554
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best shooter in college basketball this year without question. When

555
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you look at the numbers across the board. Taman Lipsey

556
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is a veteran leader, a guy that's been around you

557
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can do a lot of different things with hustle plays.

558
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All these guys are really good players and all conference

559
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type of players, but I think we all recognize that individually,

560
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while they're good, they're better together and some of the

561
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parts with this group is definitely better than just the

562
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parts themselves. And they play together and that's what's really

563
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fun to watch. They do share the ball, they move it,

564
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they get themselves in motion to move their bodies and

565
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are able to get open with good cuts to the basket.

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And so it's a fun style to watch a lot

567
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like what YU has done through the years and how

568
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much fun that's been to watch. Offensively, and I think

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that's where I would state has grown so much as

570
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on the offensive end. Defensively, that's always been their bread

571
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and butter under TJ Alzelberger, that's where they're going to

572
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hang their hat. And they're good again defensively this year,

573
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but I think they've taken a nice step forward offensively,

574
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and now they get ready for a huge challenge on

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the road and a place where they got beat pretty

576
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soundly last time they went in there, and they know

577
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what a bus saw that can be, and so they're

578
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looking forward to the challenge this week.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what the scattering reporting has been

580
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on the Cougars, but without Richie Saunders, they're they're kind

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of limping into this game.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, there's some talent there, rob right,

584
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the third Age of Devons and Canard Davis Junior. All

585
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three of those guys are really good basketball players, but

586
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they're not deep, they're thinned out. They were competitive versus

587
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U of E, but it never seems like it seemed

588
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like they were ever in control of that game. What's

589
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the scattering report from your perspective and maybe the coaching

590
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staff perspective as you've discussed it with them on this

591
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Bay Cougar basketball team.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think they're very impressed with devansa and you know,

593
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Cada's played great against Iowa State. They love his energy

594
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and what he brings on both ends of the floor,

595
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and so I think they do have plenty of talent.

596
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I mean, Robert Wright was a terrific player at Baylor,

597
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he's even better at BYU. I just think he's an

598
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exceptional talent that can get by people and really gets

599
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the basket. And that's what de Bansla can do too.

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I mean, it's just so much fun to watch him play.

601
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It's it's incredible because you just haven't seen anybody really

602
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be able to figure out how to slow them down yet.

603
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And so for I say, that's the huge challenge because

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each of those guys, as we've seen in the last

605
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few games here, are very capable of going off for

606
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a forty point game where they can carry a team

607
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to a win. And obviously Saunders is a tremendous player,

608
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and I know they're going to miss him. But in

609
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the short term after injuries, and we saw this a

610
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little bit what Iowa State last year when they lost

611
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me on Momchiloviach for a seven game stretch, they lost

612
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David Lipsei, they lost Keyshawn Gilbert, they were able to

613
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in the short term play some really high level basketball.

614
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Over the long haul, I think it really did hurt them,

615
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but a team kind of rallies around each other, and

616
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I think you could see Davis step up and play

617
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a bigger role. I think you could see some of

618
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the guys that are maybe haven't played as big of

619
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a role step up and take on a bigger role

620
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and take on a bigger challenge. But I really think

621
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it all starts with those three, in particular Cata and

622
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then the two the dynamics scorers in DEBANSA and Right.

623
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And you know, those are huge challenges for Iway State

624
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because I don't know that anybody's found somebody to slow

625
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down the ban said. Now, Kate Chillian Tory is a

626
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terrific defensive player, but he's he's not six' eight, you know,

627
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and I don't know if that's who ends up getting

628
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the defensive assignment, either that or he'll be trying to

629
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slow down Robert Wright and put some ball pressure on him.

630
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,160
Taman Lipsey's a very good defensive player, but again these

631
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,359
are guards and Debansa at six eight, you know that'd

632
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be a tough matchup for me al On Lonchiloviy. So

633
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,480
we'll see how it's all going to play out. But no,

634
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I know that team has enough talent and then some

635
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,799
to be able to beat the Iowa State And so

636
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I say it's gonna have to really be sharp to

637
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beat them.

638
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be a tough one, no doubt. B Yu,

639
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like I said, is a three and a half point dog.

640
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I guess it's closer than than the line the spread

641
00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:56,680
that was BYU versus U of A, and I believe

642
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,559
ESPN analytics giving Iowa State a fifty five point two

643
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percent chance of victory. How would you describe the Big

644
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:05,680
Twelve this year? You've gotten up close in personal the

645
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last couple of years. It seems like the Big Twelve

646
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is getting better and better every single year.

647
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Speaker 3: How do you describe the Big Twelve this year?

648
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Speaker 6: Well, it's so dynamic at the top. You know, I

649
00:31:16,039 --> 00:31:19,519
think the teams in the middle at the bottom have

650
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kind of beat each other up and been beaten up

651
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:23,759
by the teams at the top as they kind of

652
00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:27,000
backloaded the schedule. So you know, you've got all these

653
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:30,599
top teams playing each other right now down the stretch. Well,

654
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that's great for those top teams because they kind of

655
00:31:33,279 --> 00:31:36,880
elevated their resumes and you know, now they're beating up

656
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on each other where where if they get beat it

657
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:40,920
doesn't hurt you as much. Where some of those other

658
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teams that play all the really good teams early, you know,

659
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:47,759
now the record doesn't reflect how good they really are,

660
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and so those teams are just trying to race to

661
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the finish line. I do this I think it's an

662
00:31:52,279 --> 00:31:55,480
exceptionally strong league. I mean the level of talent. Just

663
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:57,599
go look at the mock drafts. So when you're seeing

664
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you know, nine big twelve players that are projected to

665
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,720
go in the first round of these mock drafts, that

666
00:32:03,839 --> 00:32:06,119
lets you know what a special basketball league it is.

667
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,640
And so a lot of great individual talent, tons of

668
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,279
great freshmen, but still very unpredictable. Look at Utah going

669
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:17,839
in and winning at West Virginia. That was amazing. I

670
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mean nobody saw that coming. And here's West Virginia fighting

671
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:24,039
for a spot at the NCAA Tournament, really feeling good

672
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about what they've done lately and how they've built the resume.

673
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,720
Utah had won on the road in about four hundred days.

674
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They go in there and dominate and get out to

675
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about an eighteen to two lead and end up winning

676
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that game. So you know, it's a very unpredictable league.

677
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It's a very challenging league, and it is competitive endurance

678
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,799
is a term that TJ. Alselberger likes to use within

679
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a game of being able to get to the finish line,

680
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and I think that's within the season two, just having

681
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the competitive endurance to realize what a marathon this is,

682
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and keep battling and striving even if you get some

683
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bumps in the road, to keep getting better. And that's

684
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really what the Tide eight team, I would say, has

685
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,039
been good at. You know, they they lost too straight.

686
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They got their themselves back together and they really blew

687
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out about four straight opponents. Then they lost a game,

688
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:15,079
a very competitive game, and came back and and have

689
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,960
looked really sharp since then, beating Kansas and Houston home

690
00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:21,079
last week. So it's a it's a crazy race, but

691
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:22,960
you got to be prepared for that long haul.

692
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's an interesting dynamic. You mentioned dynamic very

693
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much top loaded some stars. There's a lot of stars

694
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actually in this h this Big twelve conference. In one

695
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:39,359
of those stars, I want to get your opinion on it.

696
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:42,720
It seems to sub himself out midway.

697
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 3: Through games, Darren Peterson and Bill self. I think it's becoming.

698
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Speaker 2: I think a little bit incredulous and that doesn't understand

699
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:54,799
what's going on and why he's subbing himself out for

700
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,960
his post game. What's going on with Darren Peterson? Why

701
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,319
is Do you think the injuries are real old? Do

702
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:04,039
you think he's he's load managing himself. He's just an

703
00:34:04,079 --> 00:34:08,000
autonomous being, just doing what he wants on a one

704
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,280
of the best Big twelve teams, one of the best

705
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,920
college basketball teams in the country.

706
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm strictly speculating because I honestly don't know.

707
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,239
I'm not close enough to the situation. It is puzzling.

708
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,320
It's very puzzling because you know, he'll play at an

709
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,480
elite level and then all of a sudden just tap out,

710
00:34:27,559 --> 00:34:31,280
you know, And and we don't know what's going on

711
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,559
with his physical being. And I know coach self has

712
00:34:34,599 --> 00:34:36,800
defended him many times, although it seems like he's maybe

713
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,199
getting a little bit tired of offering up that defense.

714
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,760
And so look, he's extraordinarily talented. His ability to get

715
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,280
off shots. When you think back to that game with

716
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,039
Texas Tech where he had to make those two incredible

717
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,800
three pointers late in the game and he rows up

718
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,840
and knocked him both down. You know, he's an extraordinary talent.

719
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,320
But it's just a weird dynamic can I think in

720
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,079
this day of college basketball too, you got a lot

721
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:06,960
of people in your ear right. You're hearing from your agent,

722
00:35:07,079 --> 00:35:11,840
your parents, your friends, your your circle. You know, what

723
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:14,719
is best for you in the long haul, and how

724
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,440
do you have to make sure you're one of the

725
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:19,719
top picks in the NBA draft. And maybe there's a

726
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,960
lot of that going on to Again I'm speculating, but

727
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:24,840
I can't believe this is all just his decision to

728
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,280
just kind of, you know, unexpectedly take himself of his

729
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,239
help out of the game. And he also goes over

730
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,920
and sits next to Doc Sadler, who I never know

731
00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:36,119
was knew was a real doctor, but apparently he is

732
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,199
because that's we sits next to him. Bad. Scot's a

733
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,519
good guy. Used to be her Yowa State. But no,

734
00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:46,400
it's we joke about it. But I mean, it is strange,

735
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,880
and I'm sure it's puzzling for Bill self. But all

736
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,599
I know is when he's out there, man, they're a really,

737
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:52,639
really dangerous team.

738
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: That that is for certain. They are extremely dangerous. He's

739
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,440
a dangerous player. Know he's answered, but bad. Who do

740
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,000
you think the past? How would you rank out like

741
00:36:02,039 --> 00:36:03,920
the best players in the Big twelve?

742
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:04,559
Speaker 3: Right now?

743
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: That's an interesting debate we've had on our show, Who's

744
00:36:07,519 --> 00:36:10,079
the How would we rank out like the top five

745
00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:13,079
best players in the Big twelve. You you would probably

746
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:17,159
have more expertise on that front than anybody. Haven't seen

747
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:19,280
all these great players over the last couple of years.

748
00:36:20,039 --> 00:36:23,119
Speaker 6: I'd say the best player I've seen this year in

749
00:36:23,199 --> 00:36:25,800
person to this point, and I haven't seen the Bats

750
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,239
in person yet, so I'm with whole in judgment, But

751
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,960
Kingston Flemings from Houston is just extraordinary. His quickness, his

752
00:36:34,039 --> 00:36:36,599
ability to get his shot off at any time, his

753
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,159
ability to get to the basket. He's one of the

754
00:36:39,159 --> 00:36:41,000
best freshmen I've seen coming to this league in a

755
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:44,360
long long time. Now again, Peterson to be Hansa. I mean,

756
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,039
there's there's gonna be somebody left off the All Big

757
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:49,360
twelve team that you're gonna be saying, how in the

758
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,039
world you know did that happen? And there's so many great,

759
00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:58,000
great players in the league. But I really like Bury's

760
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:00,800
at Arizona two, and I haven't seen him in person yet,

761
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,840
but just watching games, and he is an exceptionally extraordinarily

762
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,400
talented freshman. Pete gets a lot of attention and had

763
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,360
that bust out game early which I think got everybody's attention.

764
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,519
Maybe sike some attention away from Bury's, but I think

765
00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:19,320
Burry's is just an incredible player. And so there's a

766
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,400
bunch of them all over the league and so far

767
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,320
I've just mentioned freshman and those are some of the

768
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,280
best players in the league without a doubt, but that

769
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,360
Joshua Jefferson is right up there with any player in

770
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:33,559
the league with what he does across the board, scoring, rebounding, assists.

771
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,320
He's just a guy that impacts the game in so

772
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,480
many different ways. And so and I know I'm leaving

773
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,920
people off. There's so many good players all over the league,

774
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,920
and it's just that's what makes the Big twelve so great.

775
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,920
I think that's why you see these TV ratings that

776
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,360
you do. You see the big Monday matchups or the

777
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,440
Saturday night matchups that are all over national TV and

778
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,960
everybody around the country. Twos in it's a high level basketball.

779
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,480
I mean, we just played a big Monday game with

780
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:05,920
Houston and you know, you catch yourself just I was

781
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,920
talking to Derek after our analysts just saying, this is

782
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,719
great stuff. You know, this is just high level, high

783
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,679
level basketball, and win or lose, this is just fun

784
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,320
to be here and just to witness it. And those

785
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,960
two teams really went back and forth for forty minutes.

786
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,559
So I love the league. I love what it's all about.

787
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:24,519
I love how it's grown with the additions that have

788
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:27,639
come in and made it only better, and I think

789
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:30,320
it's only going to get better. I think Commissioner Yormark

790
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:35,599
has a great feel for how valuable Big twelve basketball

791
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,880
is and I think that's only going to continue to grow.

792
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: What let's go back to Iowa State here.

793
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:48,519
Speaker 2: The three losses are on the road, Kansas, at Cincinnati

794
00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:52,559
and at TCU. What what happened in those games? Specifically?

795
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:54,159
How did they fall short in those games?

796
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 6: I think turnovers were the number one thing that cost

797
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,519
them in those games, and I was it's kind of

798
00:39:00,519 --> 00:39:02,559
been on a roller coaster when it comes to turnovers

799
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:04,760
this year. For the most part, they've been pretty good

800
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,360
at taking care of the basketball. But when you look

801
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,840
at those three losses in particular, they had a hard

802
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,679
time taking care of the ball and getting shots. And

803
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,960
then they turn around and they play Houston, which is

804
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,199
one of the best teams in the nation enforcing turnovers,

805
00:39:18,199 --> 00:39:22,840
and they had a school record whoa three turnovers in

806
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:27,119
the game on Big Monday. So it's really hard to predict,

807
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:29,280
but you're right especially on the road, there have been

808
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,039
times where they've had struggles to take care of the basketball,

809
00:39:33,079 --> 00:39:35,239
where the ball kind of gets stuck and there's a

810
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,239
little bit too much one on one stuff going on.

811
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,519
I think I would say, as I mentioned earlier, is

812
00:39:39,559 --> 00:39:42,639
just better when they act collectively as an offense and

813
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:44,760
they really share the basketball and swing it from side

814
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,840
to side and everybody's moving and cutting. That's when they're

815
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,280
the most dangerous. That's when Joshua Jefferson can really find

816
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,679
open teammates and they can excel offensively. But sometimes, and

817
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,400
I think it's just human nature, you get behind and

818
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,880
you're trying to make a play, you kind of tend

819
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,599
to hold the ball a little bit longer and see

820
00:40:04,599 --> 00:40:06,199
if you can make a play to get your team

821
00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:09,360
over the hump. Well, I think they need to keep

822
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,280
trusting each other even in those late shot clock situations,

823
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,079
to say, hey, we can still make a play. We

824
00:40:15,159 --> 00:40:17,039
might be down to three or four on the shot

825
00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:18,920
clock here, but we can still make a play. We

826
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,960
can make two or three more passes. We saw that

827
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,719
with the game winner by Nate Heisei the other day.

828
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,679
Joshua Jefferson with about two on the shot clock, threw

829
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,360
it from the top of the key and made a

830
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,480
great pass that set up Heisey for that game winning shot.

831
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:35,360
So that's that's when I was stayed tad as fast

832
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,159
as when they're moving the ball, sharing and really keeping

833
00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:41,639
it moving so that the defense can't walk in tj.

834
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,679
Alzilberger said, a guy standing still is a lot easier

835
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,360
to guard than a guy on the move. And so

836
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,599
I think for Iva State, movement, ball movement, player movement

837
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,440
is really the key.

838
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:59,039
Speaker 2: As you look forward these final five six games for

839
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:01,800
these Big twelve teams, who do you think is going

840
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,920
to be at the top of the standings? How many bids?

841
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,480
Also do you think the Big twelve gets this year

842
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,599
in the NCAA tournament.

843
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:12,559
Speaker 6: Well, I'm concerned about that last part of it because

844
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:15,000
I think, you know, you look at that West Virginia

845
00:41:15,039 --> 00:41:18,320
loss last night, or you look at TCU losing the UCF.

846
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,679
You know, those losses really hurt. And I know that

847
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,960
each everybody seems to be in agreement that the Big

848
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,079
twelve has the best league, and so I think that

849
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,800
could help. But at the same time, each team is

850
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:37,519
evaluated individually, and so you know, you've got to get

851
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:40,000
some more resume building wins. If you're those teams that

852
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:41,599
are kind of on the bubble right now, there's a

853
00:41:41,639 --> 00:41:43,119
bunch of them in the Big twelve. They're in that

854
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:45,880
middle of the pack. I'd love to see eight teams

855
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:47,679
get in, but I would think right now it would

856
00:41:47,679 --> 00:41:51,000
probably be more like six or seven at the very top.

857
00:41:51,079 --> 00:41:55,239
I think because Arizona's going to Houston this week and

858
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,800
what Houston's done historically in this league, to me, there's

859
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,480
still the team to be until until somebody knocks that

860
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:05,360
champion out, there's still the champion. It was alwayst that

861
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,760
hey with Muhammad Ali, you had to knock him out.

862
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,920
If you were going to beat him, you weren't going

863
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,400
to win a decision, right And that's to me when

864
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,960
that's Houston and especially on their home floor, and Arizona

865
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,719
goes in there with a real challenge this weekend, and

866
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,840
so yeah, I'd still pick Houston to win it, although

867
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,280
there's several teams still in the race, including Iowa State,

868
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,599
and that's really exciting, no.

869
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: Doubt about it.

870
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: Give me a little prognostication, how do you think this

871
00:42:29,039 --> 00:42:30,960
BYU iway stay game plays out.

872
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be an absolute dogfight. I mean,

873
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,800
BYU is really good, especially on their home floor. It's

874
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,880
one of the truly great environments in college basketball. It's

875
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,280
going to be noisy and it's going to be a

876
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:46,239
buzz saw and I would stay went in there and

877
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,480
did not play well last time they went there, and

878
00:42:49,159 --> 00:42:51,880
you have to be sharp. You have to be really

879
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,400
really sharp to go in there and win. Now, lately

880
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,760
I was stated has been really really sharp. So hopefully

881
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:01,039
that they can carry that over on this trip. But yeah,

882
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:02,960
they're gonna have to. They're gonna have to get off

883
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,480
to a good start. I don't think you want to

884
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,159
dig yourself a deep hole against this team. I think

885
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:08,760
you need to get off to a good start and

886
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:13,440
establish your physicality and your identity early in that basketball game.

887
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,199
But then the billion dollar question is is de Bansa

888
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,960
gonna go off? Is he gonna have forty points? If not,

889
00:43:21,199 --> 00:43:25,119
then who's responsible for slowing them down? Because you know

890
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:28,400
they're gonna they're gonna spread the floor, they're gonna get wet,

891
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,199
right and de bants will go one on one and

892
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,199
do their thing and it's gonna be hard to slow down.

893
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,840
And then on the boards, I think is going to

894
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,119
be a huge part of this game. And Okada has

895
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:40,800
been just incredible on the boards against Iowa State in

896
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,360
the past. Can you get a body on him? Can

897
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,000
you consistently win the rebound battle or at least play

898
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:49,239
even on the boards with BYU and I think that

899
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,639
will be a critical part of this game as well.

900
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,679
Speaker 2: We appreciate you hopping on to talk some ball with

901
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,199
us today, John, best way to support you.

902
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Speaker 3: What you do, how you do it. Thanks wropping on

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Speaker 6: Us see that my pleasure. Happy to join you anytime.

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906
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