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November twenty second, nineteen fifty one, here is today's episode,

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The Big Hands.

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Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true. The

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names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're a

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detective sergeant. You're assigned to homicide detail. An unidentified woman

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has found murdered in a hotel room cause of death strangulation.

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There's no lead to the identity of the killer.

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Speaker 3: Your job find him.

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Speaker 4: Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. For the

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next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department,

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you will travel step by step on the side of

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the law through an actual case transcribed from official police violence,

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from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is

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the story of your police force in action.

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Speaker 5: It was Tuesday, October twenty seventh. It was cold in

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Los Angeles. We're working the day watch out a homicide.

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My partner's Ben Romero. The boss' is Thad Brown, Chief

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of Detectives.

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Speaker 6: My name is Friday.

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Speaker 5: It was one thirty five pm when we got to

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the old Central Jail Building, third floor the crime lamb.

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Speaker 7: How are you doing length, Joe?

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Speaker 6: How's it going? Did you check the stuff yet?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Most of it? Come on back here? Kay, well this

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is all of it.

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Speaker 6: Did you find anything we can get a lead out of?

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Speaker 9: Nothing? Too good?

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Speaker 10: No, I don't think you could identify her from what

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we've got here the Morgue post about it yet?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Just this morning? How about fingerprints?

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Speaker 4: Lead?

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Speaker 6: They find any in that hotel?

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Speaker 9: No farm prints, no dead end there?

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Speaker 7: What about the woman's purse? Did you anything.

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Speaker 10: No chance you can see the fabric here, won't take

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a print. Contents of the purse here, usual stuff, comb, lipstick,

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key chain, one key on it, half pack of chewing

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gum coin pursts are dying, two nickels in it.

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Speaker 9: That's all it.

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Speaker 6: According to the room truck at the hotel, she had

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a wallet weather when she checked in. There's no sign

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of that was it?

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Speaker 9: No sign of it in the hotel room either, checked everything.

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Speaker 2: Is that?

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Speaker 7: The only piece of jewelry found on the body. That

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wedding ring there.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a cheap ring, no markings on it, no

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way of tracing it. But the only thing I can

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tell you if she was pretty well dressed. That's an

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expensive bag there, Yeah, showing out a cheap dress either.

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Same for a coat and shoes. They cost the money too.

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Speaker 6: How about labels on any of that stuff?

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Speaker 10: One on the coat, Yeah, and can see right here.

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Ben with Department Stare Los Angeles coach fairly knew they

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might be able to give you something on it. Maybe

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the people at the hotel got anything there.

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Speaker 5: Could have been bitterly. The woman checked in last night

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around eight o'clock. She registered as John Ross.

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Speaker 9: And wife La didn't even see the man with.

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Speaker 5: It, No nobody broom clerk says the woman came in alone.

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She said her husband was out parking the car, so

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she registered for both of them. Clerk said he left

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the desk a few minutes after that. Figures the man

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must have come in sometime while he was gone. Nobody

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on duty at the desk after midnight. He could have

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left the hotel anytime after that without being seen.

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Speaker 7: She registered at eight pm the corner and says she

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died about ten thirty.

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Speaker 9: You're not even sure there was a man with that. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The woman who was raised next door to the murdering room,

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she told her she heard a man and a woman

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arguing it was about ten o'clock.

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Speaker 11: Could have got pretty loud.

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Speaker 10: No idea who the woman really was, huh. I suppose

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that John Ross and wife business doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 6: That's pretty doubtful. But all we got to go on

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is the physical description from the corner. She's a small

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woman five foot one ninety nine quarter pounds, wasn't they been? Yeah,

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brown hair, blue eyes, about thirty one, thirty two years old.

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We got our prints off to Washington.

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Speaker 9: Got any idea.

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Speaker 5: We figured maybe it could be a psycho killer. How

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did you figure The corner's report listed strangulation is the

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cause of death.

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Speaker 6: Whoever did it made sure her neck was broken.

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Speaker 5: At approximately six o'clock that morning, in a second floor

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room of a downtown hotel, the body of an unidentified

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woman was found murdered. Preliminary investigation failed to reveal the

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true identity of the victim or the killer. As far

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as physical evidence was concerned, there wasn't much to go on.

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The deep bruises on her neck and throat, along with

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a crushed vertebrae at the base of her skull, indicated

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a savage attack one five PM. Through the label on

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the dead woman's coat, we traced the garment to a

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department store where it had been purchased, but they had

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no record on it. It was a cash purchase and

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the salesgirl couldn't remember the customer. Investigation during the next

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two days failed to turn up any leads. We showed

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a more picture of the victim to bartenders, waitresses, parking

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a lot of tendants.

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Speaker 6: In the vicinity of the hotel. They couldn't identify her.

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Speaker 5: We rechecked tenants and employees at the hotel that got

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us nothing. Thursday, five forty eight pm.

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Speaker 7: One answer at your lafe to find Yeah, victim was

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a nice looking woman, well dressed, nice clothes. How comes

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she's staying in a cheap hotel down the neighborhood like that?

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It doesn't jibe from my mind? Were that's sorry to say? Sure,

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got me stop two days leg work and we're no play.

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Speaker 5: We might be in better shape when we get that

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kickback from Washington. That's you're a hope, So go ahead.

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Speaker 6: They excuse me, Yes, sir, can we help you?

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Speaker 11: Well, no, I don't know. I guess it all depends.

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I'm waiting for a couple of detectives here.

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Speaker 7: Well, who is it?

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Speaker 11: You wanted to see a couple of detectives.

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Speaker 7: Who are they?

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Speaker 11: It's pretty confidential, you know, I have to talk to them.

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Told me to see Friday and Romero. Ben Friday and

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Joe Romero detectives handling the case.

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Speaker 5: Yes, sir, I'm Joe Friday. This is my partner, Ben Romero.

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So we're handling the case. What do you want to

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see us about?

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Speaker 11: They said you were working on that murder case, that

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woman they found in the hotel. Yes, sir, that's right,

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that's so you see your badges. Yes, sir, here's our identification.

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Mm hmmm. Read about that murder in the paper.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 11: You better come over here. Yeah, you're going to thank

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me for this. I got all you want to know

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about that murder.

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Speaker 7: You mind telling us your name, sir?

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Speaker 11: I don't mind. L. P. Morgan was a good friend

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of hers. You know he used to work with him.

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Speaker 6: You mean the dead woman, it's.

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Speaker 11: The same one. I never forget a face. Maud McLeod

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saw that picture in the paper and I said to myself,

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there's old Maud.

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Speaker 6: You're pretty sure that, are you? Mister Morden?

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Speaker 11: Sure, I'm sure. I'm Maud McLeod used to work together

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in the circus. Maud was a bareback girl, you know,

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investment Andre, a real trooper.

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Speaker 7: What makes you so sure it's the same oman, mister Morgan?

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When was the last time you saw this friend of yours?

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This Martin mccloth well. I used to see her all

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the time work the old sales photo together. Got a

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photo of her. Do you mind if we take a

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look at it.

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Speaker 11: That's why I came down here. I want to help out.

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You's got to be identified. Let's see got here's somewhere

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so more in a circus custome. Yeah, here it just

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take a look at that. It's mord ain't it.

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Speaker 7: Mmm, well, I don't know, sir. It doesn't seem to

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be too much resemblance.

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Speaker 11: Here is that right?

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Speaker 7: Grad, you've made a mistake, mister Morgan. Thanks for your

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cooperation anyhow. I appreciate you coming in.

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Speaker 11: Sure it was Maud, I got it.

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Speaker 6: Homicide Friday. Oh yeah, Frank, Uh huh is that right?

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Speaker 5: Huh yeah, okay, fine, no, we'll pick it out. Yeah, thanks,

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anythink communications they got the kickback from Washington on the

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dead woman's fingerprints and you left. They got to identify

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she worked at an aircraft plant during the war. Names

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Doris Fraser.

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Speaker 11: I can't help it to think you fellows are missing

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at BET. I knew that dead woman.

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Speaker 5: Well, she's already been identified, mister Morgan. We know who

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she is, names Doris Fraser.

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Speaker 6: That's so, yes, sir, that's right.

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Speaker 11: Oh what do you think of that?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Maud?

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Speaker 11: She went and changed her name.

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Speaker 5: Thursday, six thirty five pm, Ben and I went down

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the hall to Communications and got a copy of the

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kickback from Washington. The murder victim was identified as Doris

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Eileen Fraser. She applied for a position as a typist

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at the Eagle Aircraft Plant in Burbank in nineteen forty two.

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Next morning, we checked the personnel office at the plant.

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typist from nineteen forty two to nineteen forty four, and

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going over our application, we found our last known address

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listed as seventy three forty six Oakdale Avenue. Her application

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stated she was single, with no previous employment, with no

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known relatives, we could uncover no further information on the girl.

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large apartment building in a better than average neighborhood. The

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manager told us that Doris Fraser had lived there up

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to eight months before. He said that a few weeks

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before she moved, she was married to a tall, dark

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haired man, but he was unable to remember his name.

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apparently began having trouble from the day that they were married.

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women in the south end of the city. Ben and

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boarding house while she polished to set a silverware.

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Speaker 12: I saw that picture in the paper. I didn't connect

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it with Doris, though. She was a much prettier girl

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when she lived here.

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Speaker 7: You say she left here about eighteen months agoms watching.

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Speaker 12: Yes, maybe a little more. It might be closer to

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two years. I'd have to check my rent receipts to

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be sure.

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Speaker 7: Did you happen to know anything about the Fraser girl

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is watching? I mean, did you know much about her

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personal life?

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Speaker 11: Of all?

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Speaker 12: Well, of course I always insist on references any good

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boarding house. Does you know Doris was a nice girl

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in many ways? Of course, she had her shortcomings. I

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suppose we all do. When she first came here, she

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seemed like such a nice girl, and then she started

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to go downhill. I just don't know what got into her.

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Speaker 6: Well, what do you mean, man, Was she in some

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Speaker 12: Well, of course when she first came here we didn't

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know it, but she was married. This is a home

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for single girls. We have our rules and regulations, just

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like any other respectable place. This man we understand well,

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as we came to find out later, Doris wasn't only married,

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but she was fighting with her husband. I understand he

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wasn't much at all. She was thinking of getting a divorce.

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Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, Will did you ever meet

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her husband, miss Watson?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 12: I never did. I suppose It's just as well. I

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didn't understand that Doris left him after they'd been married

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only a few months.

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Speaker 7: M you know what his name is, ma'am.

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Speaker 12: No, I have no idea. Doris always used her maiden

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name when she was with me.

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Speaker 7: Then you never saw this man as what? And he

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never came to housh here?

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Speaker 12: No, I didn't say I never saw him. I said

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I didn't meet him. Yes, there was once when he

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came to the house to see Doris.

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Speaker 7: What was the occasion you mind telling us by? Oh?

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Speaker 12: It was most unpleasant. I can tell you that, not me,

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see now, Yes, Doris, I've been here about six months.

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By that time I was beginning to see the real

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side of the girl. No character, Sergeant, no character at all.

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It shows up every time.

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Speaker 6: Yes, ma'am, what if you'd go on please?

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Speaker 12: Well, as I was saying, it was after about six

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months when this man brought Doris home late one night,

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about a quarter till midnight, I'd say, upset the whole house.

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Speaker 7: How was that man?

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Speaker 12: The two of them, this man and Doris, they stood

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right out there in the hall, had a terrible quarrel language.

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It was dreadful the top of their lungs too. My

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husband went out to quiet them down, but the man

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left before he had a chance to call him down.

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The upset the whole house.

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Speaker 5: Now, this man, the Fraser woman was arguing with You're

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sure that that was her husband?

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Speaker 12: Well as sure as I can be. That's what Doris

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told me. Anyway, the day after, I called her in

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and told her I just couldn't tolerate behavior like that.

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It upset her quite a bit. I remember she cried

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so it wouldn't happen again. That's when she told me

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she was trying to get a divorce.

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Speaker 6: Is that what the big argument was about? Would you

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know that?

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Speaker 12: Yes, she said she wanted a divorce. Her husband didn't.

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He wanted her back with him. Certainly, is sad the

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way some people mix up their lives.

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Speaker 7: Yes, ma'am. By any chances you get a good look

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at this man husband, nummy.

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Speaker 12: Well, he was tall and had dark hair. That's about

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all I remember. He was well dressed too.

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Speaker 7: I see when Doris Fraser left your missus watching, did

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she leave her forward and addressed with you? No, she didn't.

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Speaker 12: I haven't any idea where she moved.

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Speaker 6: What kind of work was she doing while she was

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living here? Do you have any idea where she was employed?

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Speaker 12: Yes, that was one of the references she gave me.

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Furniture company down on Venice Boulevard, If I remember correctly,

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I have the address my record book. Certainly is unfortunate.

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Speaker 6: The whole thing, Yes, ma'am, it is.

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Speaker 12: He even tried to talk to her before she left,

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sat her down and talked to her for a whole afternoon.

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I guess it was just a waste of time.

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Speaker 7: How's that man in.

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Speaker 12: Trouble with her husband? Terrible thing. He seemed to treat

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her so badly to have been fighting all the time.

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I believe she was actually afraid of him. She told

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me it was very jealous. He drank ran around. That's

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why I couldn't understand it.

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Speaker 6: You couldn't understand what, ma'am Doris.

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Speaker 12: When she moved away from here, ma'am, she said she

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was going back with her husband.

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Speaker 5: The landlady, Francis Watson, gave us the address of the

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furniture store where the murder victim had been employed, and

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we drove down to check with a personnel manager of

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mister Collins. He said that Doris Fraser had been fired

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from her job ten months before. He said she'd been

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let go because she was constantly late for work and

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that she got into the habit of asking for salary

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advances too often. Collins also told us that he'd heard

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about the trouble between the Fraser woman and her husband.

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He said he'd seen the husband in the store several

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times when he came to call for his wife. He

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identified the husband as Steve and Arnold. The description was

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approximately the same, a tall, well dressed man, dark hair,

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heavy build. The personnel manager gave us the last known address.

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Speaker 6: They had on the victim.

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Speaker 5: The following morning, we checked it out, an apartment hotel

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in the East Wiltshire area. She was still registered there

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together with her husband, Steve and Arnold, but the desk

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clerk told us that Arnold hadn't been living there for

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the past three months. He had no idea where Arnold

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had moved he didn't know where he worked. While a

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desk clerk stood by, Ben and I went upstairs and

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checked the apartment.

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Speaker 6: Anything Joe, No, nothing.

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Speaker 7: Nothing in the bedroom, like Lee says, she goes in

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for nice clothes. About all I can figure what you

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got there?

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Speaker 6: See it lying on the desk here, looks like she

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started to let her and didn't get to finish it.

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Speaker 7: What's it say there?

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Speaker 5: It's date of October twenty third. That's over a week ago,

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says dear George. I've been meaning to write to you before,

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but that's all.

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Speaker 6: That's as far as she got.

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Speaker 7: George. First time we've run into that name on this

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deal makes more than one man in her life.

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Speaker 5: He There's a couple more letters here. They're all addressed

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to her, unopen. See well we can go buy her.

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The return addresses telephone bill, ad from a woman's store, postcard,

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another ad. Here's something Santa Monica, postmar Check the name

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on that return, yeah, Steve and Arnold. Twelve thirty five pm.

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We called the office and check Steven Arnold through R

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and I. He had no criminal record. The return address,

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which he'd listed on the envelope of a letter to

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his wife, was one o eight to six specific Front Boulevard.

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We located it on the beach, just below Santa Monica

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was a small Hamburger stand owned and operated by the

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dead woman's husband.

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Speaker 8: No, I haven't seen Doris for a couple of months anyway.

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Speaker 7: Why, I understand you had an apartment with your wife

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in the East Wilson neighborhood. Is that right, McDonald?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 7: Mind telling us why you left?

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Speaker 8: No, I don't mind. I want to move closer to

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my work, that's all. That place is way too far out.

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Speaker 6: Well, how is your wife didn't move with you? Sir?

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Speaker 8: She want to stay close to town. Doesn't care for

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the beach much bad for his sinus?

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Speaker 5: I guess, well, did you have an argument with your

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wife inold some kind of a disagreement? Is that one

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of the reasons you moved?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you might call it that. We're getting a divorce.

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Speaker 2: That's so.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it was the best thing all the way around.

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There's nothing of fighting and scrapping the last year. Anyway,

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we decided to call it quits. You excuse me a minute.

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I gotta put some cold drinks. It's cooler.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I got right ahead.

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Speaker 8: Would you do you care for cold drink, no coke,

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maybe nothing.

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Speaker 6: Did you get the divorce from your wife, mister Arnold.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right, I'm divorcing her. Why do you want

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to know?

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Speaker 6: You remember that last time you saw your wife? The

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exact date?

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Speaker 8: I mean, oh, I don't think I remember that. Been

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at least three months, I'll say that much.

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Speaker 7: You spend most of your time down here at the beach,

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do you, miss Darner?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's right. I get into town once or twice

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a month. They sure you were like a coke. They

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gonna have one myself if you don't mind. Sure I

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got cold, Well, it sure as cold.

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Speaker 7: How about last Tuesday night? So you happened to be

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in town that night?

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Speaker 12: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Last time was two three weeks ago? Anyway, went in

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to see a show. I was working here last Tuesday night.

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Work every night except Monday. It's only night I'm closed

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up for her.

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Speaker 6: Is there anyone who can votch for that?

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Speaker 8: I don't think I get this. Why do you want

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to know?

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Speaker 6: Well, is there anybody who can votch for you?

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Speaker 8: Well? Sure, half a dozen people. Anyway, A fellow runs

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a place next door. The guys in the rest of

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the stalls up and down the way. Here they can

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all vouch for me. I worked till one am, same

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as usual. Just a minute, hey, beg.

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Speaker 5: Go Steve hop over here for a minute, so I

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don't want to talk to you about Yeah, just a minute, hey,

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big thank.

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Speaker 8: He'll be right over you. Fellows want a cup of

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coffee or anything?

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Speaker 7: No, I would. I'd like to have a change for

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that cigarette, mes, you know, if you don't mind.

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Speaker 8: Oh, sure.

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Speaker 7: There you are, think yes, Steve.

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Speaker 8: Hey, uh, these fellows have detective vict guess about some

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kind of jam my wife, got it? Do they want

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to know where I was last Tuesday night?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: They want somebody to vouch for him.

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Speaker 6: Sure, did you see mister Arnold last Tuesday night?

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Speaker 7: I was working next door.

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Speaker 13: Steve was here all night.

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Speaker 4: You are listening to dragnet authentic stories of your police

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force in action.

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Speaker 5: Saturday October thirty, first two pm, Ben and I checked

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with a dozen different concession operators in the neighborhood of

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Steven Arnold's eating place.

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Speaker 6: They all corroborated the fact.

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Speaker 5: That on the night his wife had met her death

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in a downtown hotel, Arnold had been working at his

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stand until one am. Despite all the previous indications that

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he might have been responsible for the murder of his wife,

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we had to eliminate him as a possible suspect. Two

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twenty pm, on the way back into town, we stopped

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by the apartment hotel where Doris Fraser was living at

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the time of her murder. After checking further with the

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tenants and with the help in the building, we found

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out that the victim had been in the habit of

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eating most of her meals at restaurants in the immediate neighborhood.

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After some two hours of checking and running into six restaurants,

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we found a small coffee shop four blocks from the

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apartment building, where one of the waitresses identified Doris Fraser's picture.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's her offic terrible picture though she looks so

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much older.

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Speaker 7: About how often would you say miss Fraser.

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Speaker 14: Came in here, man, Well, three or four times a week.

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I'd say the bus stops right out there on the corner.

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She'd usually have breakfast, then grab the bus and go

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to work. Some nights, coming home from work, she'd stopping

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here for dinner.

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Speaker 6: Nice girl.

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Speaker 11: Quiet.

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Speaker 6: Did you get to know her at all? Miss? I mean,

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did you happen to know any of her? Friends here

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in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 14: No, As I say, she was a quiet person, not

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very talkative, usually read while she was eating, book or magazine.

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Speaker 6: Uh huh. Did she ever come in here with anyone else?

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Speaker 11: Do you know that?

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Speaker 12: Yeah? Quite a few times.

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Speaker 14: You seemed to have a boyfriend chause she was attractive, small.

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Speaker 12: You know, but real cute looking.

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Speaker 7: M Do you happen to know any of these men?

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Speaker 14: No, I'm sorry, I don't.

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Speaker 7: Anyone of them in particular. She came in with very often.

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Speaker 14: Let's see, I think there was one blonde, good dresser,

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kind of tall, good looking. They usually came in together

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for breakfast.

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Speaker 6: How long ago was this miss you recall?

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Speaker 14: Oh, say, up until a couple of weeks ago. I

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usually waited on him in the morning.

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Speaker 12: That's how I happened to remember.

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Speaker 6: I see. Did you ever happen to hear this man's name?

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Speaker 14: Let me see George?

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Speaker 12: I think that was it.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Would you happen to know if he lives in the neighborhood?

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Speaker 12: No, sorry, I don't.

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Speaker 7: Has this man been in here in the past week?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 12: Yes he has. He came in for breakfast.

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Speaker 6: What day was that?

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Speaker 11: This morning?

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Speaker 6: Before we left the coffee shop.

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Speaker 5: We questioned the cashier, who came up with the information

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that the man known as George usually left his car

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parked at the service station across the street. We left

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our card and asked the cashier to call us in

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case the suspect returned. At the service station, they also

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remembered the man known as George, but they told us

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he hadn't been in for the past month. They'd done

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some work in his car for him in the past,

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so they had a record of his license number. We

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called our DMV and found that the car was registered

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to a car Lucy in East Hollywood four forty five pm.

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We drove out and interviewed Lucy at his home, but

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he came nowhere near the description of the suspect. He

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told us that he had purchased the car six weeks

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before from a man known as George Crane. He described

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Crane as tall, blonde, and well dressed. From the bill

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of sale. We got Crane's address, a motel on East Manchester.

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The manager there told us that George Crane had moved

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a week before. He said that Crane had left no

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forwarding address, but he did remember where he worked. He

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was a driller in one of the oil fields down

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in Long Beach. We checked the oil company's personnel office downtown,

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but they were closed for the day six eighteen pm.

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We went back to the office and pulled the package

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on George Crane from R and.

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Speaker 7: I get anything on him.

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Speaker 6: He's got our record. Here's the package here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing, very heavy drunk charge two years ago, another

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one last year, disorderly combat resisting arrest.

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Speaker 7: That's about all I'm seeing. Yeah, description checks out all

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the way.

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Speaker 6: You called the night officer of that oil company digit.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they couldn't tell us anything, said call back first

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thing in the morning. I want to Rachel, I got it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, onmic side Friday.

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Speaker 5: Who how's that? Oh yeah, sure, yes sir, No it's

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around Friday. Not yeah, thanks anyway, you beat yeah, yah goobye.

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Speaker 6: A alad does it? Who was that guy who was

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any of the other day? You remember that Alfred P.

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Morgan or whatever it was?

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Speaker 7: Oh one knee want wanted to buy a drink.

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Speaker 6: He's celebrating. Huh his old friend Maud. He just found her.

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Eight am.

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Speaker 5: The next morning, we checked with the personnel department of

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the oil company's downtown offices. They told us that George

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Crane was employed as a driller, that he'd been working

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for the company for the past five years, and that

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he had a good employment record. They told us he

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was on the day shift and that he was scheduled

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to report for work on Rigs six nineteen at the

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Long Beach Field. At eight o'clock that morning, Ben and

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I got in the car drove down a Long Beach

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where we located the murder suspect, George Crane at work

538
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in the field.

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Speaker 15: Doris Frasier, I'm sorry, sor, and I don't think I

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know anybody about that name.

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Speaker 13: How about Doris Arnold?

542
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Speaker 7: Mister Crane?

543
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Speaker 13: Would you know anybody by that name? Arnold? No, No,

544
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I'm afraid not. What's it all about. You own a car,

545
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do you, sir?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: That's it right over there, that dark sidan.

548
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Speaker 16: Yeah. Have you had it long?

549
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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 15: I've had it a couple of weeks. Last thing I

551
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had was giving me a lot of trouble.

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Speaker 16: Did you trade it in?

553
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Speaker 11: No?

554
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Speaker 13: I sold it for a private party fell out in Hollywood.

555
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You mind taking a look at this picture, mister Crane? Yeah, Ah,

556
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doesn't look like anybody I know.

557
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Speaker 15: Why am I supposed to we think you should. Yes, sir,

558
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I don't think I follow you.

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Speaker 17: Do you spend any time around the East Wiltster district Crane, Eastwelter?

560
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Speaker 15: You said, yeah, Oh, I've probably been over there a

561
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couple of times.

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Speaker 13: Not lately though.

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Speaker 7: How about the coffee shop on the corner of Gramercy

564
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and Meringo.

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Speaker 13: You ever been in there? Not that I remember?

566
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Speaker 11: No.

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Speaker 17: Well, a waitress in that coffee shop and the cashier too.

568
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They say they've got a pretty regular customer. You put

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your description exactly sure you've.

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Speaker 13: Never been in there? Well, I'm not positive. I wouldn't

571
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swear I've never been in the place. What's the difference anyway?

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Speaker 16: Well, how about that service station across the street from

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the coffee shop? You ever parked your car there?

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Speaker 6: They ever do any work on it for you?

575
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Speaker 16: Oh?

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Speaker 15: Say, I bet I know the place you're talking about. Yeah, yeah,

577
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I've been there quite a few times.

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Speaker 13: It's a good station. They've done some good jobs in

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the car for me. I remember it now.

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Speaker 16: Well, I guess you remember the coffee shop Crane, Yeah,

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I think I do now, Right across the streets from

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the station, I did. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 13: Well, what do you want to know about it.

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Speaker 17: When's the last time you were in there, Crane? Well,

585
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tell you the truth. I couldn't be sure.

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Speaker 7: We talked to a waitress in there yesterday.

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Speaker 13: She said you were in that morning for breakfast.

588
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Speaker 7: Do you remember that?

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Speaker 15: She's way off the track on that when I could

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tell you that I wasn't near the place yesterday morning.

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Speaker 16: Well, cashier remembers you too, She says you were in.

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How about it, Crane?

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Speaker 13: What difference does it make? What's this thing all about?

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Speaker 8: Anyway?

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Speaker 16: I want to take another look at this picture.

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Speaker 13: Well, I told you once I don't know the woman.

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I never saw her before in my life.

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Speaker 16: Why don't you give it some thought?

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Speaker 6: Huh?

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Speaker 16: I said, why don't you give it some thoughts?

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Speaker 5: You remembered East Wilshire, You remember the service station, You

602
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finally remember the coffee shop.

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Speaker 16: Maybe you can remember her.

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Speaker 13: I tell you I don't know her. I never saw

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in my Look. Let's go on the shed where we

606
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can hear each other.

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Speaker 5: Huh.

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Speaker 8: All right, that's a little better.

609
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Speaker 12: Huh.

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Speaker 7: The waitress in the place says you were there quite

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a few times with a woman. You usually came in

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for breakfast. You stopped going there about two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: I don't know her.

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Speaker 7: What's the matter? Clean? You figure you got something to hide.

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Speaker 13: I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know her.

616
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What do you figures she got to do with me?

617
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Speaker 2: Anyway?

618
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Speaker 5: We checked her apartment, mister, we found a letter she

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was writing to you. You're not ready to tell us?

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Speaker 18: What's the letter? That doesn't mean anything, can't prove anything

621
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by the letter? What are you thinking anyway?

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Speaker 6: We think you're lying, Crane. We think you got a

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reason for it.

624
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Speaker 18: What do you say doesn't prove anything?

625
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Speaker 13: Maybe I know her and that doesn't mean anything at all.

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Speaker 6: We think it does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we think you killed her.

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Speaker 18: That's the way it looks to you.

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Speaker 7: That's the way it looks.

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Speaker 13: I don't think you can prove it.

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Speaker 6: We're going to try now, how about it?

632
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Speaker 11: Well?

633
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Speaker 18: It going easier for me in five minutes.

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Speaker 6: That's not up to us.

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Speaker 18: I don't know why I did it. What am I

636
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going to give for a reason. I don't know why

637
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I killed him.

638
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Speaker 6: I wouldn't know.

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Speaker 18: Crane didn't really have any reason. That sounds funny, doesn't it?

640
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No reason at all? I just killed her? Am I

641
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going to tell him? If I don't have a reason.

642
00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:07,960
How can I ask him to let me off easy?

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How can I ask?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, but they'll have an answer.

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Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true. The names

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were changed to protect the innocent.

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Speaker 4: On February eighth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department

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ninety two, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.

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In a moment the results of that trial, and.

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Speaker 2: Now here is our star, Jack Webb.

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Speaker 5: Thank you friends, all of us on Dragnet. Sincerely hope

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that all of you enjoyed a happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 4: George Martin Crane was tried and convicted in Superior Court

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of murder in the first degree. He is now serving

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a life term in the state penitentiary. You have just

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heard drag Met a series of authentic cases from official files.

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Technical advice comes from the Office of Chief of Police,

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wh Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.

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Speaker 2: Next, Counter Spy Fights, International Intrigue. Stay tuned to NBC.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back. This episode is textbook drag Nat, but it

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is very well realized way. Essentially, I hear them and

662
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their investigative process as they followed lead after lead, beginning

663
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with an unidentified woman strangled in a hotel room to

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really get details about her and her life and at

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last finding her killer. It was a laborious process, even

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when they found the car and the license plate, No,

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that didn't get them there. Dragnett often bills itself as

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taking you step by step with the police on an

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actual case from crime to punishment. But usually there's kind

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of a middle of the investigation that really gets emphasized,

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and we get enough to understand what's gone on before,

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and then we're kind of put you know, several steps

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into the investigation. But here, you know, it is just

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step by step. Okay, this didn't work well, we learned this,

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and now we do this. It's just a fascinating thing.

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It should not work as well as it does. But

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again it's just Webb's ability to make these details and

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each element realistic and interesting that is such a hallmark

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of Dragnet. And I also did like the little bit

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of comedy relief they worked in with mister Morgan, which

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I think just does help the pacing. So well, you've

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got just like this little comedic break in the middle,

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and then on we go got two of them, actually,

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and I'm glad that at least he got good news

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with his friend maud Well. Now we turn to listener

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comments and feedback, and we start over on Patreon. We've

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got quite a few comments regarding the big hit and

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run killer. Jeff writes, the suspect Miller letting some guy

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named Paul he seems to barely know, go off with

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his bakery truck to supposedly move a television seems ridiculous

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on the face of it. Also, if Miller left the

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bakery for a few minutes to say goodbye to some

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friends at a nearby hotel, why weren't those friends contacted

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to back up that part of his alibi? Their questions.

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I would say that you're right that it was ridiculous

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on the face of it, and that's why he needed

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to prove that he done it, because if the police

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were able to find corroborating evidence, it's a you know,

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ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my client just loaned

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this truck. No, we don't know is his full name. No,

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we don't have any prov he actually borrowed it. As

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to the friends in the hotel, that's like I said,

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that's another fair question. Now a lot of people can

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use the friend thing kind of loosely, it could refer

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to somebody he had meant a long time ago, ran

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into again and they said, hey, before I leave town,

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why don't you come by the hotel and say goodbye.

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But he didn't have the information or could use it

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to refer to people who were in town temporarily he

710
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had met and befriended. You know, I mean, a guy

711
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:19,119
who loans his bakery shock to somebody is apt to

712
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:22,680
do these sort of things. So I can see him

713
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:27,480
having friends that he doesn't have their address for that

714
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,480
he met them at some point. Now you would think

715
00:32:31,759 --> 00:32:36,480
that they could check with the hotel, but the desk

716
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,079
Clark may not have even seen him going up, So

717
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:42,720
I tend to assume that they looked into it, but

718
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,039
just could not find any corroboration for that detail of

719
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,200
his alibi. And then Kevin comments leave it to Sergeant

720
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:57,079
Friday to continually stomp on suspects, constitutional riots, no warrants

721
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,519
or lawyers ever present. The depth of this apppisode was

722
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:05,160
shockingly simple. All the information provided after one phone call

723
00:33:05,319 --> 00:33:07,680
the ticket lady with eight minutes till she could take

724
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,960
a break and talk right inside to start questioning doctor,

725
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:16,079
I know you're doing brain surgery right now, but we'd

726
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,279
like to ask some questions. It's really important. Apparently no

727
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,079
writer ever asked does this sound real? Well, Kevin, believe me,

728
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:29,559
on Dragnet writers more than anywhere else asked does this

729
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:33,680
sound real? I think that there is a subtle distinction

730
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:41,279
between performing brain surgery and working as a movie theater

731
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,480
ticket taker. It's slightly less complex. And in this case,

732
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:50,559
there weren't really people who were coming by during this time,

733
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,960
which is believable because there are times where it's really

734
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:59,519
kind of slow. Plus, let's just be honest here, that

735
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:04,000
you're sitting in your ticket window and you see this

736
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:08,239
car come right in front of your eyes and run

737
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:15,880
down this elderly woman and her grandson's that's something that

738
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:21,960
is very upsetting, maybe even traumatic, depending on how you

739
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:27,159
define that, And she probably just wanted to talk about it.

740
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:31,519
I think the most unrealistic thing to say is let

741
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:34,880
me go ahead and just sit here and twiddle my

742
00:34:35,079 --> 00:34:38,559
thumbs waiting for somebody to want to buy a ticket.

743
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,679
You witnessed something like that, and you want to talk

744
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,800
about it, and you know, if you are minded, you

745
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,280
want to see the person who did that caught injustice. Done,

746
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,519
and I think that was her mode and I didn't

747
00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:57,239
feel that was unrealistic at all. Doctor who done it

748
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,480
observes did not see that coming over on Instagram. Brain's

749
00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:06,559
bitten rights. What a twisty story. Daniel Miller, the truck

750
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,320
slash Deli guy, may not have been the hit and

751
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,159
riding driver, but boy is he guilty of a lot

752
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:15,719
of bad judgment and decisions. Lends the company truck to

753
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,159
someone he doesn't know the name of, and leaves his

754
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,119
part time job to say goodbye to some other friends,

755
00:35:22,159 --> 00:35:25,800
and changes his story constantly. I guess he was lucky

756
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,039
the real guilty party fest up. I don't know if

757
00:35:30,079 --> 00:35:34,719
i'd say the guy fest up as much was called out,

758
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,320
but yeah, I think that the incredible thing about Dragnet

759
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,800
is that you are dealing with true life stories. There

760
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,599
is every reason to disbelieve him, but it is one

761
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:50,760
of the greatest twists in the whole history of this

762
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:55,280
program that as absurd as this man's story was, he

763
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:59,000
was telling the truth and of course a lot of

764
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:03,039
bad judgment. And you can speculate on that as well

765
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,719
because you add up his hours. The guys working around

766
00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:11,599
seventy hours a week and that can leave you burnout

767
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,480
and lead to you making less than great decisions. Or

768
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:18,840
you can also be needing to do that because you've

769
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:24,239
made some less than great decisions. Either way, definitely guilty

770
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,239
of bad judgment, but thankfully for him, that's not a crime.

771
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:32,519
All right, Well, now it's time to thank our Patreon

772
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773
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:41,119
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774
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776
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much for your support, Diane, and that will do it

777
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,679
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780
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,639
be back next Thursday with another episode of Dragnet. But

781
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,039
join us back here tomorrow for yours truly. Johnny Dollar

782
00:37:12,159 --> 00:37:14,639
Where Johnny Dollar Insurance?

783
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right now. Look, I want you to let

784
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:17,719
me into his apartment?

785
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,119
Speaker 6: Where's the right his way?

786
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,679
Speaker 8: Something wrong, mister Dollar?

787
00:37:24,199 --> 00:37:26,119
Speaker 2: Just a routine investigation.

788
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 19: Oh, I was sure he'd done nothing wrong.

789
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 18: Oh why do you say that?

790
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 6: Nice quiet home man like him.

791
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 19: Why should he only excitement he ever has is when

792
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,800
his niece comes to visit with him.

793
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,559
Speaker 2: His niece here's sir, names Virginia.

794
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,559
Speaker 19: Jenny Locker, wonderful girl sort of drops in here to

795
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,400
look after him once in a while, cook him a

796
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:49,920
good meal.

797
00:37:51,239 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 17: Now here we are, mll It sure looks like he

798
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:01,000
left in a hurry.

799
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,119
Speaker 2: How's it soaping? Durspull dot Where can I find this

800
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,920
niche you mentioned? Why didn't you see her when you

801
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:11,519
just came in? That curl who bumped into me down

802
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:13,000
on the lobby, that was Jenny Lockhart.

803
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime.

804
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:21,440
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