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Speaker 1: Well, the plays get broken down and science gets denied.
Off the Bench Hour two of Off the Bench Live
from the Raising Kine Studio.
Speaker 3: All Right, welcome back in our number two O TV
here on this Thursday morning. Look, it's the pointed that
nobody really wants to jump in on the Dennis Allen
hate this week. I know he's not the head coach
of the Bears. He's a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: Did I not give him enough during his tenure?
Speaker 2: No, it's never.
Speaker 5: You're totally right, Chi, I.
Speaker 4: Don't think I could ever chill out on the Dennis
Allen hate. I have like a deep hatred for at
this point.
Speaker 5: Be thankful he's not here anymore.
Speaker 2: I mean, true, true, But.
Speaker 3: How cool would it be if rat Dad went up
there and put it on him. I would love it
and scored a lot of points coming up?
Speaker 2: I think he kind of had like I think he
had one last week.
Speaker 3: I know they lost, but but this is this like
a this could be I'm waiting.
Speaker 4: For Kendre Miller's revenge game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. Here is going to take a hard
left on one of his runs scored there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, target chance that Camara doesn't play this week.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 2: I know because he found himself the injury report.
Speaker 6: And he has not practiced in two days. Yeah, so.
Speaker 8: Running hard as hell. Yeah, my god, it's gonna be
great now. I think breakout games. What I'm talking about
is I think he's you know, we've we've seen him
high completion percentage, low interceptions, operating at a very very
high level, operating the offense, more deep shots, more chances.
But I'm talking about quite statistically a breakout game like
he played great last week, but still zero zero touchdown,
zero interceptions, right, I am talking about like a three
four touchdown type game where the receivers catch them. Yeah,
the receivers catch them. That would be idea fun fun
like that if they like get open and make up
play and then when they do makeup play, you don't
get a holding call.
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all think, really, Dennis Allen is going to attack.
Speaker 2: I got Caesar.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, it's gonna be the lie.
Speaker 5: He knows the weakness of the week.
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, guys, I feel really good about our
pressure package this week.
Speaker 2: Why coach trust me, because.
Speaker 8: We're gonna rush see fifty one over there, We're gonna
rush four guys.
Speaker 4: I need us to like really just I don't know
if the Saints can do it. I want to like
run up the score on them, because remember when he
apologized to Arthur, when Dennis Allen apologized.
Speaker 2: To our Jamis.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I want to run up the score on
Dennis Allen and run over this defense so hard.
Speaker 2: But I just you gotta be able to.
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 8: I just there's gonna be a game, there's gonna be
a season where the offense just goes off.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: There.
Speaker 6: As far as completion percentages, the Bears have the second
highest completion percentage against them, seventy three point six. Only
team mores that's the Dolphins. Really the Dolphins is seventy three.
The Dolphins are seventy four point nine percent completion against them,
and then the Bears are second with seventy three point
six thirteen touchdowns against them. Their defense has eight picks.
So I mean, they ain't great, and.
Speaker 4: They seem like they really love Kellen Moore that we
played that post game speech in the locker room and
it just seems like they want to really get behind him.
So they need to do this for Kellen and they
need to get revenge on Dennis Allen.
Speaker 6: Would anybody like to guess where they ranking yards per carrey?
Speaker 2: Whew?
Speaker 6: This is Chicago Bears defense. Where are they ranking twenty
eight thirty first and the second worst?
Speaker 2: Wow?
Speaker 5: Five point seven yards perk price is right?
Speaker 2: Rules?
Speaker 5: I win five point seven per carry?
Speaker 2: Fair? You got it? Okay, So it could be a
Kendred game. Look that was how like how sweet would
that be?
Speaker 3: And like I was, I was calling out Kenduraman because
I'm like, hold up, man, wait, like what's going on here?
It just turns out like he really just did not
vibe and jibe with Dennis Allen those things that Dennis
Allen that obviously, Like I've talked to people around the organization.
We're like, no, that wasn't handled the right way. And
he's played well. I mean, he hasn't had a ton
of opportunities, but you can tell. I mean his first
like preseason carrier. I remember Flintechs in the group and
being like, oh, okay, I get it. I understand why
they're being patient with him.
Speaker 8: Yep, I got a I got of just a random thought,
like I'm not a big like analytics guy. I don't
really like I can't claim to be an expert when
it comes to just like general manager like GM, maneuvers
team like knees teams, salary caps, cap hits. I'm not
an expert at that. Like I just kind of call
it like I see it. And there's something out there
in the NFL that kind of intrigues me. We always
we've been talking about the Saints being like one game changer,
one playmaker away from being a relevant team, not a
championship team. Let's not get it twisted. We don't think
it like we're one player away from being but from
you know, Nick said it on the other day on
our show, like we're one past ca your playmaker away
from having a chance to win two more games, being
three and three.
Speaker 3: Incredibly fair too, because incredibly I there's three games that
you could so if you win two of the three.
Speaker 8: So there's a there's a person out there in the
NFL that is very disgruntled about which team he is
on and he is a game changer. And oh yeah,
he also played with Kellen Moore last year. AJ Brown
the Philadelphia Eagles. I don't know if there is a world,
Like I said, I'm not an expert at salary cap
and all the compensation stuff, but if there's a world
that you have a guy that has disgruntled where he is,
and like, I started pulling up some quotes from him,
and this is a quote from last year, last winter,
after they won the Super Brown from aj Brown after
the Eagles won the Super Bowl, was before they got
their rings. He said, I've never been a champion at
the highest level before, but I thought my hard work
would be justified by winning at all. It was not.
My thrill for the game comes from when I dominate.
So you got a guy saying, like cool one of
the Super Bowl is great, Like I want to be
the guy, And he's not ever going to be the
guy in Philadelphia. He might have games where he's the guy.
So I'm sure there's a lot of teams based on
this picking up the phone at Colin. If the Saints
aren't one of them, I don't know what you got
to do. But if we're saying what is worth having
one dominant guy with a young quarterback with a brand
new head coach, it's already coached this guy. I guess
the success with Killimore. What's to stop them from going out? Like,
what would be worth it? Would you trade a Chris
o Lava plus a second round pick?
Speaker 2: Would you? Like? What is the price?
Speaker 3: I actually think the second round pick is what teams
expected to take, just a second round pick.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 8: The problem is is like with a guy like AJ
Brown or your team Chris Alave becomes really good, probably
like really good.
Speaker 3: So what if you could I mean it's a lot
of what is but what if you go backage Rashid
chi heat who's expiring contract and second round?
Speaker 8: Of course you're not going to give up a first
round pick like this year because it's gonna be really high.
Speaker 3: Yeah you wouldn't do that, Yeah you would, only you
would only do that for like five players.
Speaker 2: Currency something like I don't know, I don't know if
AJ would a J. Brown?
Speaker 8: Like that's the thing in the past, like the Saints.
The Saints is not ten target's minimum game, right, like.
Speaker 2: The New Orlean States.
Speaker 8: And this is this is like a knock on sitting
a knock on anything specifically, but it's not like a
desirable destination always for trades and free agencies.
Speaker 3: People don't know, and and just from my friends that
have played here after being somewhere before, people don't know
that it is a good spot to play in, in
a good spot to be in until they get here.
I don't know, like you might have a completely different story,
but I just know of of my teammates that played
somewhere else and found their way to New Orleans. They
weren't very excited about it when it happened. They had questions, concerns,
and then ended up really enjoying their experience with the organization.
Speaker 2: They don't know the cost of living. They love that, right.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of things that are like oh, food, culture,
blah blah whatever, like darren Sproles.
Speaker 8: Loved, but they would come because I guys like drew
here like there was success being happened, like with a
recent non success. That's why I like, I don't want
any tank situation for an early drafting, because you're not
gonna get any free agents that way or any people.
That's a lot of times when a team trades a guy,
they asked that guy like, are you cool with this trade?
Sometimes they don't mind. Yeah, so it's uh, it's look,
I think you got a little juice. You got a
coach that he's familiar with. AJ Brown is familiar with.
It was his offensive coordinator last season. Yeah, you got
a guy that directly after the Super Bowl says, I'm
not happy with this. I want to be targeted. I
want to be the guy. So I don't see that
situation getting better.
Speaker 2: Maybe it is. I don't know.
Speaker 8: Maybe that was just like a random one off comment
that he regretted afterwards.
Speaker 2: I don't know, just reading into it.
Speaker 8: But AJ Brown one of the most dominant receivers, could
be one of the most dominant receivers in the league
right now. I'm looking at and this is don't take
this with a great assault because I'm giving you some
fantasy football statistics here, but from like what he wants
as in dominating or taking over a football game, it
kind of plays in this correlation of fantasy football. Yeah,
he is forty two, ranked forty two in wide receivers
in fantasy football and non PPR leagues this year, and
in PPR leagues he's ranked thirty seven. Yeah, in non
PPR he's ranked behind the league neighbors who's been hurt.
Yeah for a while, hadn't played three weeks. Yeah, so
forty two and it should be probably a top five guy.
Speaker 3: I mean he's from Startville, like he's from Starville, so
like he's from somewhere very close.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now if I'm watching from a Brown, I'm watching
this as closer home as he could get.
Speaker 8: I'm watching Spencer Ratler and I'm watching seeing Kellen Moore there,
Like I would be open to it. Yeah, maybe it's
not as sexy as like get traded to the Steelers
or Rams or something like that.
Speaker 4: But like, so I had thought about the A J.
I'm like, I would love like we can trade Olave
Shaheed whoever for a J. Brown. But then I was like, well,
the Steelers are looking for a receiver, and I just
don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 9: Maybe Roger's throwing to you, but I just I don't
know if the Saints would be a desirable place. And
I don't know if Mickey Loomis or the front office
is smart enough to make that happen.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they're willing to give up what
you would have to do. They gave him a.
Speaker 2: Fourth round pick for a guy that doesn't play though, received.
Speaker 6: You're true true point. I mean well, maybe that's their thing. Hey,
we gave up for this guy, came well.
Speaker 5: Back to bite us.
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be, but try to make that guy part
of the trade.
Speaker 6: Right they're out because like, okay, I agree with you
on aj Brown.
Speaker 5: The problem is if you don't get him, where do
you go from there?
Speaker 6: Because like there's guys that want to be traded, like
came out yesterday, Kobe Myers hadn't been in practice all week.
Speaker 5: Raiders might move him. I don't know if he's a
game change.
Speaker 8: You go, you go, you go for a guy, you
go for a dude, you go for a top five
to ten guy or nobody.
Speaker 2: Right now, I think.
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just worried that they go that route.
Speaker 6: They're like, oh, Kobe Myers is young, he's like paper,
let's get him, and it doesn't really do anything for you.
He's sent back to back thousand yard years. He's a
good player, but he's kind of Chris.
Speaker 8: You only go for a guy that you say, can
I plug and play him? And if if he would
have been here six games ago, I believe we'd be
three and three instead of one and five more that
is yeah.
Speaker 2: See, I'm at that staff basically just.
Speaker 3: Like again, like I don't I don't know what what
the trade would look like. But if you do move
on from Rachiici just because of his contract and he's
going to be a free agent and you don't believe
that you can get to his number, whatever whatever. To
Matt's point, I do think not only would you get
an A. J. Brown, but Chris Olave would. His game
would actually translate better with the option that he would
become in the offense, The routes that you could run
with him would be better because A. J. Brown would
be the guy running those routes that he's right now,
and you could do a lot of different things with this.
Speaker 2: That's that's what we're saying.
Speaker 8: Get like, if Alave gets traded, get ready to be
pissed off Saints fans because he's going to go somewhere
and be good because he won't be the one.
Speaker 4: We talked about that yesterday.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, and I see a lot of people that Chad saying, no,
keep Shiheed. Look I get that, I like Shahi. His
problem is his contract's about to run out. He will
be a free agent, and if you want to keep him,
you don't have to pay up a little bit of
cheese to get him.
Speaker 2: Now, he might be thirteen million, fourteen million a year.
Speaker 5: If you don't now of his speed, you don't trade
him now.
Speaker 6: You either have to pay him a lot, which they
don't want to do, or you're gonna have to let
him walk.
Speaker 5: Like, if you want to make a move, she might
have to be the guy. No shah Truther.
Speaker 4: So I would love to keep it too.
Speaker 2: I would too. I would keep him.
Speaker 4: This is like my own opinion is probably a bad one,
but I would keep him.
Speaker 5: Over a lave if you had a guy.
Speaker 8: If you don't just think I just think that a
lave is probably going to be really good with a
true one receiver.
Speaker 2: You think he's going to be really really good.
Speaker 4: I mean now for Shahizo because he doesn't really have
a one either.
Speaker 2: Dude, do I.
Speaker 8: Wish from all, But if you're making a move to
get that type of guy, you got to give something.
Both sides got to be a little bit unhappy with it.
Speaker 2: But I feel like, oh god, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8: So like and the one cap thing I did look
at was that if they traded, if the Eagles traded
aj Brown this year, they would have dead cap space
of almost twelve million dollars. But let the Eagles lose
this week to Carson Wentz and the Vikings, and see
what kind of two years ago.
Speaker 2: This happened to them in the Eagles.
Speaker 8: They spiraled, They had a disaster, They lost their.
Speaker 6: Last seven regular season games, stumbled into the playoffs, and.
Speaker 5: Then the Bucks, who were a wild card, beat them.
Speaker 8: It was like a historical like eight in a row,
melt lost. So like just think, so they got that
in their DNA. Now they fixed it last year obviously,
and let's not let's it's not like poopy on the
Eagles because there's still a really great team. Hate to
push dush push toushush push, oh, push to tush.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Uh so I don't know, but let him lose and
let that noise start getting. That noise is starting to
get a little loud with aj Brown. Let it get
a little bit louder because then they're talking about like
if you cut him, I think it's like a forty
million dollar cap, like dead cap hit. So they trade
him almost well, which is a lot, but still we
see worse.
Speaker 2: Sold sold it. We make the deal.
Speaker 4: So Brown, the Saints.
Speaker 2: Mickey listen to Mickey. If you live in the Saints,
what if you're.
Speaker 3: Listening to Mick take a round pick for a j Brown,
You gave a fourth rounder up for Receie.
Speaker 2: If that doesn't play about it, that's one of the
chants that you gave up a second round of workub true,
she can andes you and Tyler shuck again.
Speaker 3: By the way, fortieth overall, I'll fade again doesn't guarantee
you anything, and it shouldn't guarantee you anything except being
on the roster for like two three years for sure, and.
Speaker 2: You could be there for the whole time, but you don't.
Speaker 3: You don't move things out of positions that are going
well to force it, even though some are trying to
tell you that's what you do. All right, we will
take a break more O TB. That's like a real
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Speaker 8: Yeah, still I definitely know what war is. We'll explain
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we were having a conversation and it started with Dennis
Allen hate week. Then it went to Kendre Miller running
over Dennis Allen on the sideline, and it went to
a k maybe being out, so Kendre is gonna get
it some more time. And then it went to like
a Spencer Rattler, small kind of conversation too, Let's trade
Chris Olive Shahi maybe for a J.
Speaker 2: Brown.
Speaker 3: And then I think we convinced ourselves by the end
of the segment walking out that AJ Brown is basically
on the same he's the Saints.
Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely, He'll be looking for houses near the park
pretty soon.
Speaker 2: Heard it here first, heard it here first?
Speaker 8: I think again, we got no clue, Like, what kind
of the Cap spaces?
Speaker 3: I know we can look it up, well, says the
Caps kind of fake anyway, Look at the Eagles can
have all those players, Okay, we.
Speaker 8: Can have a little bit. Yeah, good one, get out
of here. I wonder what Kellen's relationship is with Aj
the text sweet.
Speaker 6: Nothing, it's probably good. He got a ton of passes
last year. Yeah, I mean it's probably pretty good.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 8: You know what else, if you want to dominate, if
that's like your golf, that's what keeps you going. Every
player has their why. We had somebody to say that
tell it, give us a speech about that. In the NFL,
you have your why, like in usually in college and
high school, like you played the why because your competitor.
You play for your like you you play to win,
that's your why, like you're a team.
Speaker 2: Sometimes in the NFL, you got a lot of guys.
Speaker 8: That play to win. They want the team to be successful.
You got a lot of guys that play for money.
You got a lot of guys that play for family.
You got a lot of guys that play for individual
stats and trophies and success and accolades. And they're like,
it doesn't matter what it is, whatever it is, you
play for your why, you know. And so if his
why is individual stats and to be that guy to dominate,
if he likes it, that's what gets him going. Awesome,
cool embrace that come plain a dome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's such a good that's a great point about
the why, because everybody's why is different.
Speaker 2: And don't judge anybody's why.
Speaker 8: Like if a player in the NFL plays hard because
he wants to get a big contract, So what.
Speaker 2: What is your why? Like why am I here? You
have one?
Speaker 8: Oh, I don't know what, Like like playing football, mine
was just more competitive just I wanted to be I mean,
it was a job, so certainly I wanted to make
a living.
Speaker 2: I would have done it for a lot less money. Yeah,
I would.
Speaker 8: I would have done it for if if I would
if I could have said agreement, I would have done
it for whatever I could. Same thing if I was
just tired of like bouncing, Like yeah, I get that.
I get that.
Speaker 3: My one of my big wise was like you can
impose your will on somebody else.
Speaker 2: I legally you can do that. Like that's that's fun.
Just that's what Like that's good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the part that you miss too, is
just like having that Like now, when you get mad
at somebody, there's nothing you can really do about it,
you know, if you're a grown adult, it's like, well
you can, but then you get arrested.
Speaker 2: It's that's not fun, right, Like.
Speaker 3: Just having that about it fun and you and you
think about like what you're able to get away with,
and it's like somebody says something and you're like, you know,
we've got like thirty more plays left in this game, right,
Like you know there's going to be a way that
I'm going to find you somewhere in here. It's like
those little individual battles and look, sometimes after a game,
like it'd be like, hey, meadheads out, Hey, that was fun, bro,
Like I hated you for sixty minutes.
Speaker 2: I hated you, And sometimes it leans a little bit
out of the way you compete.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, like some of the best ones that you
played against. It's like, man, I really like I respect
the hell out of the way that you play football,
Like I hated you for like the entire game, Like
I was saying so many bad things about you.
Speaker 2: But what was the guy's.
Speaker 3: Name from uh San Francisco defensive lineman Missouri basic name,
Justin from Missouri Justin SMI. Oh yeah, that guy, Justin Smith.
Speaker 2: You remember him.
Speaker 3: He was a psycho for sixty minutes, so good. He
got kicked out of two different times. He got kicked
out of our game when we played the forty nine ers,
but afterwards he'd be like, hey, respect the hell man.
One time he hit me with the hey man for
a little fella, you bring it?
Speaker 2: Hit me with the little fella. Yeah, me for the
little fella. I'm like, yes, sir, that guy Like but
those are the guys. Like he was sixty minute animal.
He would go to a place where he would lose
his mind. Yep.
Speaker 3: And I don't think he was there, but like that's
that was his why, Like he had to, That's what
he had, what he looked for.
Speaker 2: Want legally hurt people. What's fine.
Speaker 3: And then after the game he'd give your your props.
Now that's the way. If you didn't show up and
you were kind of but you know what, he'd also
call you out after the game. Call it like we
had we had a teammate. I'm not gonna put a
name on him. We had a teammate that was starting rivers. Yeah,
because Philip never wanted to smoke. Philip would be getting
in fights for everybody. We had a guard who didn't
play a whole lot and he had to come into
that game like after the game, like justin Smith one time,
he's like, hey, man, if you want to stay in
this league.
Speaker 2: You gotta get a whole lot tougher.
Speaker 3: And it actually like that guy that played that position whatever,
he was probably going to be out of the league
pretty soon, but like he had that as a mess motivation.
He got a little motivation. He got like five more
years out of the league. He straight up say he say, hey, man,
if you want to stay here, you gotta be a
whole lot tougher.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like, let's you gotta be better. There
is a way to handle it, and that's the way
to handle it. Call a couple of the Saints leven.
Speaker 8: You go beat up on people, you compete, and then
after the game you shake their hands. You don't do
it like Brian Branch for the Lions did this past
week Lions versus Chiefs. I know we also we hadn't
talked about him in this show, but what a pretty
good little fight.
Speaker 2: Pretty good little fight.
Speaker 8: Right afterwards, he did not shake hands. He just went
and punched. Was it Juju?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And then Juju was actually like I'm gonna flop here
like like Vottie de Vat and he's like, oh no,
I can't go out like that. Then he tried to
like go in and get some and then it was
like kind of too late. Then ended up on the
ground with a bloody lip, and.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he did kind of like flop because nobody's ever
been punched that hard in the history of humanity.
Speaker 2: I don't think where right, And he's like why why
that flop?
Speaker 3: And he's like, oh, I get a penalty now, yeah,
and he's like, oh, I got to go, like I
gotta go do something. And then like you know, Juji's
like a TikTok guy. No, no direspect to him. That's
what he is. And he ended up with a bloody lip.
Wouldn't good. So it's good.
Speaker 8: Like when you get in fights like that, it's good
to have your homet on because you know, punching helmets
is tough. But it's also bad because they get ahold
of that face mask. You kind of go where your
head goes, just saying not that now as a quarterback.
So didn't get in a lot of fights. What if though,
I'll protect the money maker here.
Speaker 2: I don't trust Corbett. I won't get in a fight.
I mean I'd kind of get in there. I talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the best part about all the trash that Philip
would talk and like he you know, he'd be ready
to but like he would talk it for us sometimes
and the player would get mad at us even though
we didn't say it.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you can't listen to Philip.
I didn't say that, I know, like, give you a linebacker. Hey,
you're gonna let twenty two run over you like that again.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, twenty twenty two is coming for I'm like Philip.
Speaker 2: My number out, oh branch.
Speaker 8: He'd get a game, by the way he did for that, right, Yeah,
he got a game.
Speaker 3: I was hoping, like in that whole fight situation with
the Chiefs and the Lions, I was hoping like we
would get a really good Dan Campbell over the top
something like I wanted Dan Campbell basically to fight a
current player.
Speaker 2: See who win. Yeah, I mean there's a code out there.
Speaker 8: There's a code of conduct out there, like if you
want to fight, like people get games. People get suspensions
for fighting during the game after plays like that is
the I mean, I'm not saying it's acceptable when you
do that, but at least it's between the game that
started the game and the end of the game. Yeah, hey,
this one was a little bit I thought. I thought
there's a potential he might get a little bit more
than one game, because it was it's that unspoken code
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after the game, like let's fight during the game if
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Speaker 2: Bit more than one.
Speaker 3: I thought it was going to be a three game,
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Speaker 8: I wasn't like asking for it. Yeah, I just thought
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Speaker 1: Locked in on LSU football twenty four to seven, you're
listening to off the Bench.
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in OTB here live in the
Rais Kain studio, looking at the slates in college football
coming up this weekend.
Speaker 2: You got a sneaky game on.
Speaker 3: Friday night, little freaky Friday matchup between Louisville and Miami.
This one is going to be at hard Rock Stadium,
Miami thirteen and a half point favorite. Remember the Louisville
ran the football all over Miami a year ago. Now,
Miami certainly shored up some of their front seven issues
really on both lines scrimmage. Miami's interesting because they're five
to zero, number two team in the country.
Speaker 2: They yeah, that dog will hunt. They beat Notre Dame,
they beat South Florida, they beat Florida, they beat Florida State.
Speaker 3: So even though some of those teams aren't who we thought,
maybe they would be still good wins for Miami. And
as they get ready for the rest of their schedule,
they are going to be big favorites, I think in
the rest of their games. Maybe not at SMU. We'll
see what that line looks like. They're going to be
a favorite, but maybe maybe it's three and a half.
So you got Louisville Stanford at home, you go to SMU,
then you come back home for Syracuse and NC State,
then you go on the road for Virginia Tech and
Pitt it's pretty pretty nice little path favor for the
Miami Hurricanes.
Speaker 2: Are you saying they've got a good path to the playoff?
Speaker 3: Yes, because even if they look, if they win those
games and they face off against right now Georgia Tech
or Virginia in the a SEC Championship game, let's say
it's Orgia Tech and Georgia Tech beats them, You're still
in the playoffs. One lost Miami team is gonna absolutely
be in the playoff. If you're a Hurricane fan and
you're looking at what you have in front of you,
I think it's this week against Louisville and it's at
s m U and everything else. I don't want to
say you can have an easy time, but it ain't
gonna be.
Speaker 8: Different, not gonna be bad. Weren't you on the Syracuse
train earlier before the quarterback got hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, their quarterback was leading the country and passing yards
before you got hurt, like the fourth week in the season.
Speaker 8: So yeah, I mean, it must be nice to be
in the ACC, especially with you know, without.
Speaker 2: It in there. Well SCHEDEAH and then schedules lists ACC and.
Speaker 3: Look, I credit Miami because Miami did play notre Dame
in South Florida and Florida out of conference, so they
had they had some good games. Uh, but schedule and
balance is real. Like, let's look at what Georgia Tech
still has on their schedule. Okay, They've got at Duke, Syracuse,
at NC State, at Boston College Pitt and then Georgia
and the Mercedes Benz Stadium because they moved their game
from Bobby Dodd So for them, right, they don't get
Miami either. Now, they had Clemson and that certainly looked
different when that game happened. But even for Georgia Tech, now,
this game against Duke's going to be pretty difficult on
the road. Duke's figured some things out, many Diaz has
him played really well. They're three to zero conference play,
but you get past that, then it's like for the
rest of the way Syracuse, NC State, Boston College Pit
you're gonna be a favorite in those games. And you were,
i mean inches away from beating Georgia about seventeen different.
Speaker 2: Times last year. Yep, on the road.
Speaker 3: So the ACC right now, you've got undefeated teams in
conference play Georgia Tech, Virginia, Duke, SMU, and Miami.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm looking at SMUs record right now, let's say
they lost to I don't know, do you you consider
losing a Baylor at home a good loss?
Speaker 2: Forty forty five? Hey? Ky, they were up in that
game too, forty forty five.
Speaker 8: And they lost the TCU at TCU thirty five to
twenty four. That's an intriguing matchup. It's a Saturday. You
got SMU at Clemson as well as Clemson. Are they
playing a little bit better? Are they finding their stride
a little bit?
Speaker 3: They are playing better, but they've already got two losses
in conference play, Like what.
Speaker 8: SMU at Clemson two thirty eight? Ye, so tough a
little bit to me? I probably I would go Clemson.
Speaker 3: I do think that they had not They're they're not
the team that we thought they would be by any means,
and they've beaten two bad teams back to back. Now
I pontoon parlay Clemson right now, nine and a half
point favorite against SMU.
Speaker 5: U is undefeated in the ACC.
Speaker 6: Like they lost their first game of the year, but
like they figured it out a little bit, kind of
like Jake was talking about with Douke, Like they're they're
undefeated a c C play Clemson's fine.
Speaker 5: But they're not nine and a half points.
Speaker 2: Nine and a half. No way, they're not.
Speaker 6: Is it that Clemson?
Speaker 8: I mean, I still don't think that's They're gonna get
on the bus.
Speaker 2: They're gonna run down their hill.
Speaker 4: He's gonna blow his ac out, blows.
Speaker 8: Leg out right there, then you got the inner and
bump if like he blows his leg out.
Speaker 6: They lost a three point game to Baylor. That was
their first big game of the year. They lost to
t c U, who was playing really well at the time.
You have a win over Syracuse blow out when there
you just blew out Stanford like they're playing better.
Speaker 2: It's a big number. That's a big number. It's a
yeah by half point as well. The par well this
is get a little half point there. They're gonna have
some juice to you. Caesus are.
Speaker 3: So if the ACC right now is settled as far
as like we can find a path for Miami to
be in Charlotte for the ACC championship game, I do
want to take a break and come back and talk
about the Big Twelve. The Big Twelve's got a big
matchup with I think the best nickname of any rivalry
game that we have out there.
Speaker 2: We'll break it down.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about the Big twelve when we come back
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Speaker 1: You just two thousand and seven Champs Purple and Gold
to the core. This is off the bench with Hester
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in OTB here live from the
Raising Kines studio. Always a great time to go for dose.
Great weather outside, go hang out outside, Raise a beer,
raise two, make that beer a do sekis. It is
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Speaker 3: The Big Twelve, y'all kind of looked at me when
I said they had a game with one of the
best nicknames, the Holy War. Yeah, I mean, come on,
the Holy War. That's our nickname for our game.
Speaker 2: Pretty good.
Speaker 3: It is Utah, the number twenty three team in the
country traveling to Provo to take on the number fife
BYU undefeated Cougs in Utah three and a half point
favorite on the road against the undefeated team that's ranked
eight spots higher than them.
Speaker 2: That's disrespectful.
Speaker 3: You've also got Texas Tech traveling to Arizona State. You've
got Arizona in Houston, Baylor, TCU, West Virginia, UCF, and
Cincinnati and Oklahoma State. But it is the Holy War.
That is the game of the week in the Big Twelve.
And if you don't, if you don't dabble in the
Big Twelve, you need to h It is a great
brand of football. It's so much fun to watch, and
it's good football. And I think that Texas Tech is
probably going to be one of the spots. I think
they've certainly shown that they are worthy of a top
ten ranking. But BYU Cincinnati, Utah. Let's see if Arizona
State can get Sam Leavit back. We had Connor Wigman
on our show in the afternoon yesterday. He's the Houston quarterback. Now,
I mean, they are playing some good football. They're five
and one. It's going to come down to the wire
to see who can challenge Texas Tech for that other spot. Remember,
I mean, this is a guaranteed caust football playoff spot.
And who's to say you can't get too. Who's to
say you can't get to I mean again, you've got
four ranked teams. You've got number seven, fifteen, twenty three,
twenty four ranked teams in the country. So if you
haven't watched the Big Twelve, tune into it because it
is worth of view.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: The Big Twelve was one of those like conferences that
was just getting poached and poached. I mean, there are
two bread winners in Texas, Okla'm gona come to the
SEC they make Didn't they make a pact with the
PAC twelve.
Speaker 2: Wasn't that the the.
Speaker 8: The pack the handshake agreement, like this was a conference
mark for dead.
Speaker 3: Like for a little while, everybody thought that it was
going to be what the PAC twelve is now exactly
they to go.
Speaker 2: To go to the graveyard. Well, they're kind of like
that back. Their commissioner has done a really nice.
Speaker 8: Great job, and they did it by maintaining a lot
of the teams, bringing some exciting teams in and just
creating a good brand and good football teams. Like every
team has like had to step it up and improve,
and that you could say that these programs in this
NIL world have improved. Certainly Texas Tech has enjoyed the
NIL money and that that whole world in all their sports.
So it's uh, I think we were talking about the
Big twelve leading up to this season. It's gonna be
like the the Power for Version of maction, Like it's
gonna be some wild situations happen, and it's gonna be
exciting games. You really don't know what you're gonna get.
You got exciting coaches, you got exciting players, you got
these a lot of teams that are pretty that are good,
that are pretty well evenly matched and like when they
go against each other You really don't know what's gonna happen.
So it is like if you said, if you don't
dabble in it, you should because it's exciting to watch.
Speaker 2: It's like must watch TV a little bit.
Speaker 8: So I'm excited about Texas Tech going out the Arizona State.
I'm excited about that matchup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some good ones out there in the Big
Twelve and again the Holy War BYU an underdog, and
BYU by the way they I mean, they play great
defense and they run the football, those travel those are
recipes for success, and they do it at a very
very high level.
Speaker 2: This is not the old Big Twelve.
Speaker 3: You look at like the points per game that teams
like BYU and Texas Tech and Utah give up. I mean,
there's some of the leaders in the country in total defense.
They have three teams that are in the top twenty
five of total defense in the country. You can never
say that about the Big Twelve before every game was
fifty five to fifty one. It's a different brand of football.
It's a little bit of a throwback style of football.
For the most part. You still got your Baylors and
other teams, but it's a lot of fun. Check out
the Holy Ward this week and looking forward to that matchup.
All right, we'll step away more our number three monchies
when we come.
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