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Speaker 2: How are you get just beyond as usual? There's so
much to talk about, so talk about it.
Speaker 1: I know it, I know it all right. So where
do you want to start? Do you want to start
with the well? I was going over the last hours
playing some of the audio from the House debate in
the North Carolina Legislature yesterday before passage of Arena's Law.
You wrote about this over at red state dot com,
uh focusing on and I did not pull this audio.
I probably should have, but Brendan Jones, the House Majority leader,
a Republican giving a fiery speech on the floor. Did
you so, were you able to catch comments and speeches
by all of the Democrats? I know it ran like,
I don't know, over two hours long.
Speaker 2: I honestly can't make myself watch.
Speaker 3: I don't blame you, I don't blame you.
Speaker 2: I did see some snippets, thank goodness, some good people
on social media supposed to some snippets. And it just
astonishes me that they were people in the house yesterday,
in the North Carolina House complaining about rightfully referring to
Arena Zarutska's alleged killer as a monster.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's just unbelievable to me how
we're supposed to show sympathy for this person. I mean,
I have sympathy for his family, you know, because obviously
this is not something as family, you know, wanted to
happen either. But in the in the middle of a
debate over excuse me, a bill design uh that speaks
to address some of the issues that many feel were
the reasons why her alleged killer was on the streets
in the first place. I don't think it's the exact
moment where we should be talking about how we shouldn't
refer to the alleged killer as a monster. It's just,
it's just incredibly tone deaf at a time where we're
still holding vigils here in Charlotte for for her her
death and calling for change. It's just it's just it's inappropriate.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's speech policing, right, It's this this effort
to control the language so as to control the conversation.
You're not allowed to use the word monster. And President
Trump called him an animal in all of this, Like
so people so like, so this is the thing that
you're picking at, Like the fact that people are angry
and mad. They they see this guy as a you know,
a violent, quote unquote monster. Now are they saying that
he's not human. Of course, they're not saying he's not human.
They're saying he's a monster because he behaved in a
monstrous way. And like, of all the things to pick at,
this is what Democrats tried to pick at, which I
understand actually because there's not a lot they can pick at.
They tried to, you know, make this about different things.
In Marsha Maury, the retired judge, she tried to attack,
you know, Republicans Christianity, you know, because they weren't showing
mercy or something. It's just but I think most telling
of all, she tried to defend and deflect away from
the actions of the magistrate, saying that, well, she was
just following the guidelines that are set up by the
district Court, which is controlled by Democrat judges.
Speaker 3: So it's like, even even.
Speaker 1: In their attempt to defend this Democrat appointed Democrats magistrate,
they still can't get away from the fact that these
are their policies and you know this idea that oh,
you know, it has to come from the state because
she's got another line. I haven't even played this sound
by Actually, hang on a second. Do you want to
hear this SoundBite from Marshall Morey Let me see it. Well, yeah,
all right, so this is yeah, yeah, so this is
pretty amazing. She on the one hand, she says this
is cut number six. She says that the bail guidelines
first come from the districts and that's as it should be.
Speaker 4: Are we really being tough on crime? Is this your
tough on crime response to this number one? We're boasting, Oh,
it will end our cashless bail system. No, it doesn't.
It may say failure or orders to appear on your
own recognizance are not allowed anymore, but unsecured bonds are
still allowed. You don't have to put up a dime.
They're still unsecured bonds in here. So are you ending
a cashless bail system.
Speaker 3: For violent Yes?
Speaker 4: No, yes, it doesn't set any bail amounts or suggested
guidelines for bails, like your districts have that your superior
court judge and your chief district Court judge set for
your district. I set ours in Durham million dollar bonds.
Is this suggested bond amount for b one felonies?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: So Durham is the that's the example we're supposed to
be emulating. I guess because they've solved the crime problem
in Durham, as I understand it. But so she says
this like, oh, you didn't. You didn't give us bails.
You know, you need to give us some bail guidelines
to follow. That's not tough on crime. And then literally
thirty seconds later, she says that you are ignoring the
separation of the judicial and the legislative by wading into
these waters. So she's like, you should set the guidelines,
but you shouldn't get involved in the judiciary. They're just nuts.
Speaker 2: Well is that just just a nutsy? I mean, think
about it. What solutions? What what's her answer to what happens?
What is her answer to be more tough on crime?
And you know in a way that she deems appropriate.
What ways are democrats.
Speaker 3: More mental health funding?
Speaker 2: That's the mental health funding, that's the default, right, that's
the default. Is mental health funding?
Speaker 1: Great?
Speaker 2: But that's but you know, mental health funding isn't the
only thing work we need to talk about here, Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: There's so many there's so many layers to this piece.
You know, it's not just security on the light rail.
It's not just mental health funding. It's not just changing
sentencing guidelines and so forth. It's the whole Enchilada. Democrats
only only want to focus on one aspect of it.
And thankfully, I mean this bill would have passed without
Democrats support yesterday anyway, but thankfully that were enough.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: There were several Democrats from the Charlotte area I believe,
who did sign on to the bill yesterday, but it
would just just be back and forth arguing among Democrats about,
you know, how we should show sympathy for the alleged killer.
We should focus more on mental health than than toughening
crime laws. It just it just they just don't get it.
It's just just there's just this block with a lot
of Democrats today where the focus for them needs to
be on sympathetic portrayals of the alleged herbs than the
actual victim. And this is why, you know, Trump pounces
and seazes on issues like this because Democrats are so
weak on crimes. And if you continue to see issues
like what happened to the Arena Zarutska, and you know,
we have had other crimes that have happened all right, rail,
you know that that have that have not really been
sufficiently addressed. So you know, I'm glad that Republicans and
Raleigh kind of seased on this moment, in the momentum
that it brought. I'm sorry for the loss of Arenas Zeruscope,
but if it brings about change and it makes us
have to drag Democrats kicking and screaming into modern times
when it comes to how to be stuff on crime,
and so be it well.
Speaker 1: And also I find it interesting that after every mass shooting,
Republicans talk about mental health and Democrats always want to
talk about gun grabbing, right, and so they seize on
they pounce on mass shootings to talk about gun control,
and Republicans say, it's a mental health issue. And Democrats
never want to have that conversation. But now now they
want to have a conversation about mental health services. And
look if you and I get it to some degree,
because there's nothing else that they can you know, that
they can argue. They you know, they made some like
sort of procede arguments like oh, we weren't brought in
early enough, and oh we weren't asked our opinions on
these things, and nothing we wanted to see got done,
Like what about changing the light bulbs at the light
rail station so it's brighter, and like these were their
ideas and they're just not serious because they don't actually
want to address these things.
Speaker 2: I don't believe the reason that they're and the reason
that they're not brought in by Republican leaders in the
House and Senate and Raleigh is because of people like
the people that we heard yesterday complaining about the word
monster and talking about light bulbs on the light rail.
That's why, that's why we don't want to consult with them,
because their ideas are bad, and their ideas are what
brought us to this point and.
Speaker 1: Right, and they derail the actual crafting of the legislation
if you try to have you know them in the
process and they start going down these paths of let's
change light bulbs, it's like, yeah, okay, this isn't this
isn't very fruitful. All right. Let me shift gears here
And to ask you about because you wrote about this
as well, Jimmy Kimmel's return.
Speaker 3: Did you watch it last night?
Speaker 1: Were you so excited by his return to the show
that very few people are watching anymore?
Speaker 2: Thankfully so. My colleagues at Red State wrote this morning
another thing that I'm just not interested in. I just
I just you know, I'm so tired of leftis playing
the victims. Over the last month or so, we've seen
that a lot. You know, it was the alleged killer,
like we just talked about the alleged killer and the
Arena Z, the Rutskim murder, who was the real victim,
and then and then you know, in the Charlie Kirk assassination.
The first few days after that, when we were learning
more about the alleged killer's family, you know, he was
his family was allegedly is allegedly a Republican family, and
the media was kind of going into this direction of
Tyler Robinson, the alleged killer was a victim of a
mega family. That's kind of the direction that they were going.
Speaker 1: Well, first they said he was maga, like the initial right,
a third of Democrats, one out of three Democrats, I'll
believe he was maga.
Speaker 2: Right, right, he was maga. Then he was the victim
of a mega family. And then when everything happened, was
Jimmy Kimmel. That Jimmy Kimmel has gotten more coverage and
and and what happened to him and his reinstatement or whatever.
He's gotten more coverage than from the media and outrage
than Charliekirk's fascination. I mean, I haven't done a study
on it. I haven't done the deep analysis of it.
But it's just they've spent so much time focusing on
Jimmy Kimmel over the last week that you almost don't even.
Speaker 1: You know, well, because they have they have more, they
have more solid footing for their morally superior position, Like
that's what they think, Like this is where they can
and frankly, they needed a pivot. They needed to get
off of the Charlie Kirk story because it was so
damaging to Democrats in the left and they know it is.
That's why when the Kimball suspension happened, that's why they
rushed in and made it about freedom of speech and
how he's being censored, which is weird because now he's
back and like, how would that have happened if the
government was censoring him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's really and I don't know if
you caught an eclipse of last night from Kim Will's apparent,
Like I said, I watched a few that were included
in my colleague Nico Romus Keith, and it's just astonishing
to me that he is gaslighting, you know, the people
who were critical of his comments. And I never it
wasn't my intention to single out a specific group or
blame a specific group when that's exactly what he did.
And then and then you know, and then and then
you notice how he pivoted. Now we're not going to
blame a specific group because now we know that this
person's ideology, So now we're not going to talk about
ideology anymore, it's just going to be he's a deranged individual.
And I think what was probably the worst part of
what Kimbell said last night was how he referenced Erica
kirks amazing moment where she said she would forgive her
husband's alleged killer, which was, you know, that was a
very powerful moment. Not a lot of people would have
been able to say or do that, and he referenced it,
you know, in conjunction with the people that were criticizing him,
and basically, even though he didn't say the words, it
was like, well, she can forgive her husband's you know,
alleged killer. These people should be able to forgive me.
It's just astonishing chretspa coming from these people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they live in a bubble.
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a pleasure, Stacey, take care. We'll talk with you next month.
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playing some audio and discussing the passage of Arena's Law
in the North Carolina General Assembly. It passed the Senate
the other day, and yesterday it passed the House. And
I've been playing some of the audio clips from the
quote unquote floor debate. Marsha Moury have been playing some
of her comments. She is a retired judge and also
that's right, I have to mention she was a swimmer too,
an Olympic swimmer. She points that out anytime they talk
trans issues. Anyway, she rose to oppose the bill as
a member of the agressive caucus. Again, former judge, and
she's trying to explain to her Republican colleagues why the
magistrate in Mecklenburg County should not be blamed for releasing
the murderer of Arena Zarutzka, who was brought in in
January of twenty twenty five this year, brought in on
a misuse of the nine to one to one system
because he had called the police. There was a mental
health check. Cops show up, they talked to De Carlos
Brown Junior, the murderer, and he's like, you know, people
injected me with some man made material and it's it
dictates when I eat and what I eat and what
I say and all this stuff. So obviously the guys
having some mental health crisis, as the left likes to
call it. I said crazy, but then that's insensitive, so
whatever you want to call it. The cops recognize it
and they're like, well, this sounds like a health issue.
We are at the hospital already. And he was not
happy with that. He's like, I need the cops here,
and they're like, well, we are cops and we are
already here, and we're telling you this is not a
police thing. We cannot find somebody injecting you with some
of this material that you claim is controlling you. So
what Marshall Morey said that the cops should have done
is to initiate an involuntary commitment on this guy. That's
what the cops should have done. See, it's the cops
fault for not just depriving somebody of their rights without
any kind of court official weighing in on the matter. Well,
while they were there and the guy, the murderer, became
agitated that the cops would not I guess arrest whoever
it was that was injecting him with this stuff because
there wasn't anybody there and there was no injecting stuff
in the first place. He starts nine one one again,
so that's what they used to arrest him and bring
him into the court system. Which I'm not a lawyer,
but I kind of feel like that may have been
a good entry point for this guy to get the
involuntary commitment against him. And I think that was up
to the magistrate. And I think the magistrate should have
looked back at the guy's record, which he had fourteen
prior arrests, some of them very violent, and he was
obviously displaying crazy behavior, and I feel like at that
point maybe they could have ordered the psyche val they
put him in, could have put him in front of
a judge to get the psyche val, but they did not.
The magistrate said appear at this court date, and that
court date was six or seven months later in July,
and he showed up for that. Marsha Moury Stay representative
former judge. See, the magistrate did her job, and by
the way, she was following the guidelines that the district
court draws up for the bail, So she was simply
following these guidelines, and then she attacked the Republicans for
not recommending guidelines for the magistrates quarter of.
Speaker 4: A million dollars for sea fellings. I can go through it.
I have many county, Waite County, Durham County, Greensboro. If
you would like to see or suggested bond amounts. Is
there any suggested bond amount for a violent offender in
this No, it says a secured bond, so a judge,
a judge could give, okay, five hundred dollars. Why didn't
we do tough on crime? You want suggested bond amounts?
It's certainly not in here. So it does it do
anything to identify people who are in a mental health crisis,
be for the fact and not after the fact of crime.
It does not.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, so wait, So I'm unclear. How are
we supposed to identify people in the mental health crisis
before the crime?
Speaker 3: In this case?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? He was picked up on
a misuse of the nine to one to one call.
The facts of that case clearly pointed to mental health issues.
I'm unclear. But I'm also unclear. Are you advocating, as
a member of the Progressive Caucus that you want less
discretion from your Democrat judges on the bench. Is that
what you're saying that you want the legislative body to
mandate bail amounts for every single type of crime and
just take it out of the hands of the magistrates
and the judges.
Speaker 3: I accept your offer.
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, I fine, you want to do that, Fine,
let's go ahead and pass the laws and every single
codified crime. We're gonna set the bails at the legislative level,
and then we can fire all the magistrates or a
lot of them, right, because the workload's going to be
greatly reduced. We won't need them anymore. Right, isn't that
what you're saying? Well, no, not really, you see because
then thirty seconds later she objects to the legislature telling
the judiciary what to do.
Speaker 4: Okay, let's have the General send the legislator ignore separation
of powers, and we're going to start telling the judiciary
what to do. We're going to tell the judiciary time
limits on motions for properate relief. We're going to tell
the Chief Justice he has new duties and powers.
Speaker 1: Just see what I mean this is These are different
portions of the bill talking about the timeline for death
penalty appeals and stuff, and that the magistrates and who
oversees them and who can remove them. So on the one,
literally thirty seconds after she says that you want to
get tough on crime, well, this is how you do it.
Get the legislative all up in the business this of
judicial discretion. And then thirty seconds later she's like, oh,
you're just ignoring separation of the two branches, which, by
the way, like there really isn't separation because the lawmakers,
it's right there in the name law maker, they make
the law, they tell the judiciary what the laws are.
There's no interference going on here. The judges are there
to administer the law as written by the law makers,
the legislative body.
Speaker 3: She's just all over the place, and she is like
like she's.
Speaker 1: One of the stars of the of the Democrat Party
North Carolina.
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the attacker's mental illness should prevent us from calling him
a monster?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean yeah they are.
Speaker 1: They're like, I don't like the word you're using.
Speaker 3: You shouldn't you all the guy a monster?
Speaker 1: How many dead bodies are needed to classify a crazy
person as a monster. Using that line of reasoning, Jeffrey Dahmer,
who was definitely mentally ill to do the things he did.
He would not be classified as a monster.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: This again, it's speech policing. It is a debate tactic
in order to put you on your heels rhetorically and
question the language you're using. And oh, now I'm afraid
I'm going to offend. Oh did I say something wrong?
It's using it's weaponizing your kindness against you. It's a
rhetorical device. And once you see it as that. And
I've been doing this long enough to know, people come
at me and they make the accusations. And it's why
people are like, oh my gosh, Pete, that person called
you blah blah blah, and you didn't say anything. I
don't have to say anything because I recognize the tactic
for what it is. So I don't address it because
it's stupid and it's not the point. Right, My point stands.
You either address my point, you address my argument on
the merits of my argument, or shut up, or you've lost. Right,
And I don't play the game. And if you don't
play the game, then it doesn't have any power over you.
So this was the game she was trying to play
and Brandon Johnson you heard the clip during the news
he said, yeah, I'm gonna call him a monster. He
was a monster, so he's not playing the game. This
is from Michelle. She says, I think what we are
seeing is called pathological empathy or pathological altruism. It's actually
so dangerous in damaging. So many people also like to
gaslight and virtue signal who operate under this line, right,
It's yes, it's it is a very damaging thing. This
pathological empathy, like that you are going to essentially sacrifice yourself,
your own body, You sacrifice yourself to the monster in
order to signal that you care more. And the monster
doesn't care about that. They will use that against you.
What is behind the call for supporting light rail perp
from the mayor to those in Raleigh, even if they
are right there is a dead victim. Well again, it's
the same, it's the same thing. It's the signaling that
I care. Oh my gosh, where did I remember the
first time I encountered this. It was after the murder
of two Charlotte Mecklenburg police officers, Jeff Shelton and Sean Clark.
They responded to a call there, they couldn't find anybody,
there was no call to be had or or anything.
So they start leaving and a guy walks up up
to them from behind and shoots them both in the head,
murders them right there on the scene. And at the
first Charlotte City Council meeting after the murders, the late
Mayor pro Tem Susan Burgess made a speech and it
was about and she asked this. This is almost a
verbatim quote from memory because it's stuck and she got
dragged for it. Where did we fail.
Speaker 3: This young man? That's what That's what she was thinking.
Where did we fail?
Speaker 1: See? And when you cannot recognize insanity and evil, these
are the things that you ask because there has to
be some fix. There has to be some reason for it.
There isn't when you're dealing with the insane and you're
dealing with evil, There isn't the logical, rational explanation for all. Right,
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