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your support. I want to welcome back to the program.

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Stacy Matthews, a writer at RedState dot com. She writes

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under the nom de plume of sister Toldja and Stacey,

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welcome back.

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Speaker 2: How are you get just beyond as usual? There's so

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much to talk about, so talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I know it, I know it all right. So where

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do you want to start? Do you want to start

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with the well? I was going over the last hours

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playing some of the audio from the House debate in

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the North Carolina Legislature yesterday before passage of Arena's Law.

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You wrote about this over at red state dot com,

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uh focusing on and I did not pull this audio.

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I probably should have, but Brendan Jones, the House Majority leader,

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a Republican giving a fiery speech on the floor. Did

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you so, were you able to catch comments and speeches

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by all of the Democrats? I know it ran like,

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I don't know, over two hours long.

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Speaker 2: I honestly can't make myself watch.

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Speaker 3: I don't blame you, I don't blame you.

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Speaker 2: I did see some snippets, thank goodness, some good people

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on social media supposed to some snippets. And it just

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astonishes me that they were people in the house yesterday,

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in the North Carolina House complaining about rightfully referring to

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Arena Zarutska's alleged killer as a monster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's just unbelievable to me how

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we're supposed to show sympathy for this person. I mean,

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I have sympathy for his family, you know, because obviously

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this is not something as family, you know, wanted to

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happen either. But in the in the middle of a

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debate over excuse me, a bill design uh that speaks

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to address some of the issues that many feel were

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the reasons why her alleged killer was on the streets

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in the first place. I don't think it's the exact

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moment where we should be talking about how we shouldn't

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refer to the alleged killer as a monster. It's just,

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it's just incredibly tone deaf at a time where we're

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still holding vigils here in Charlotte for for her her

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death and calling for change. It's just it's just it's inappropriate.

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Speaker 1: It's uh, it's speech policing, right, It's this this effort

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to control the language so as to control the conversation.

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You're not allowed to use the word monster. And President

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Trump called him an animal in all of this, Like

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so people so like, so this is the thing that

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you're picking at, Like the fact that people are angry

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and mad. They they see this guy as a you know,

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a violent, quote unquote monster. Now are they saying that

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he's not human. Of course, they're not saying he's not human.

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They're saying he's a monster because he behaved in a

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monstrous way. And like, of all the things to pick at,

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this is what Democrats tried to pick at, which I

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understand actually because there's not a lot they can pick at.

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They tried to, you know, make this about different things.

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In Marsha Maury, the retired judge, she tried to attack,

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you know, Republicans Christianity, you know, because they weren't showing

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mercy or something. It's just but I think most telling

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of all, she tried to defend and deflect away from

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the actions of the magistrate, saying that, well, she was

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just following the guidelines that are set up by the

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district Court, which is controlled by Democrat judges.

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Speaker 3: So it's like, even even.

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Speaker 1: In their attempt to defend this Democrat appointed Democrats magistrate,

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they still can't get away from the fact that these

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are their policies and you know this idea that oh,

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you know, it has to come from the state because

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she's got another line. I haven't even played this sound

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by Actually, hang on a second. Do you want to

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hear this SoundBite from Marshall Morey Let me see it. Well, yeah,

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all right, so this is yeah, yeah, so this is

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pretty amazing. She on the one hand, she says this

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is cut number six. She says that the bail guidelines

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first come from the districts and that's as it should be.

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Speaker 4: Are we really being tough on crime? Is this your

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tough on crime response to this number one? We're boasting, Oh,

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it will end our cashless bail system. No, it doesn't.

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It may say failure or orders to appear on your

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own recognizance are not allowed anymore, but unsecured bonds are

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still allowed. You don't have to put up a dime.

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They're still unsecured bonds in here. So are you ending

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a cashless bail system.

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Speaker 3: For violent Yes?

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Speaker 4: No, yes, it doesn't set any bail amounts or suggested

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guidelines for bails, like your districts have that your superior

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court judge and your chief district Court judge set for

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your district. I set ours in Durham million dollar bonds.

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Is this suggested bond amount for b one felonies?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: So Durham is the that's the example we're supposed to

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be emulating. I guess because they've solved the crime problem

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in Durham, as I understand it. But so she says

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this like, oh, you didn't. You didn't give us bails.

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You know, you need to give us some bail guidelines

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to follow. That's not tough on crime. And then literally

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thirty seconds later, she says that you are ignoring the

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separation of the judicial and the legislative by wading into

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these waters. So she's like, you should set the guidelines,

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but you shouldn't get involved in the judiciary. They're just nuts.

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Speaker 2: Well is that just just a nutsy? I mean, think

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about it. What solutions? What what's her answer to what happens?

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What is her answer to be more tough on crime?

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And you know in a way that she deems appropriate.

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What ways are democrats.

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Speaker 3: More mental health funding?

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Speaker 2: That's the mental health funding, that's the default, right, that's

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the default. Is mental health funding?

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Speaker 1: Great?

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Speaker 2: But that's but you know, mental health funding isn't the

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only thing work we need to talk about here, Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: There's so many there's so many layers to this piece.

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You know, it's not just security on the light rail.

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It's not just mental health funding. It's not just changing

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sentencing guidelines and so forth. It's the whole Enchilada. Democrats

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only only want to focus on one aspect of it.

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And thankfully, I mean this bill would have passed without

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Democrats support yesterday anyway, but thankfully that were enough.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: There were several Democrats from the Charlotte area I believe,

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who did sign on to the bill yesterday, but it

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would just just be back and forth arguing among Democrats about,

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you know, how we should show sympathy for the alleged killer.

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We should focus more on mental health than than toughening

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crime laws. It just it just they just don't get it.

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It's just just there's just this block with a lot

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of Democrats today where the focus for them needs to

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be on sympathetic portrayals of the alleged herbs than the

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actual victim. And this is why, you know, Trump pounces

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and seazes on issues like this because Democrats are so

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weak on crimes. And if you continue to see issues

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like what happened to the Arena Zarutska, and you know,

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we have had other crimes that have happened all right, rail,

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you know that that have that have not really been

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sufficiently addressed. So you know, I'm glad that Republicans and

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Raleigh kind of seased on this moment, in the momentum

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that it brought. I'm sorry for the loss of Arenas Zeruscope,

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but if it brings about change and it makes us

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have to drag Democrats kicking and screaming into modern times

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when it comes to how to be stuff on crime,

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and so be it well.

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Speaker 1: And also I find it interesting that after every mass shooting,

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Republicans talk about mental health and Democrats always want to

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talk about gun grabbing, right, and so they seize on

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they pounce on mass shootings to talk about gun control,

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and Republicans say, it's a mental health issue. And Democrats

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never want to have that conversation. But now now they

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want to have a conversation about mental health services. And

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look if you and I get it to some degree,

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because there's nothing else that they can you know, that

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they can argue. They you know, they made some like

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sort of procede arguments like oh, we weren't brought in

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early enough, and oh we weren't asked our opinions on

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these things, and nothing we wanted to see got done,

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Like what about changing the light bulbs at the light

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rail station so it's brighter, and like these were their

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ideas and they're just not serious because they don't actually

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want to address these things.

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Speaker 2: I don't believe the reason that they're and the reason

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that they're not brought in by Republican leaders in the

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House and Senate and Raleigh is because of people like

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the people that we heard yesterday complaining about the word

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monster and talking about light bulbs on the light rail.

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That's why, that's why we don't want to consult with them,

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because their ideas are bad, and their ideas are what

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brought us to this point and.

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Speaker 1: Right, and they derail the actual crafting of the legislation

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if you try to have you know them in the

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process and they start going down these paths of let's

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change light bulbs, it's like, yeah, okay, this isn't this

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isn't very fruitful. All right. Let me shift gears here

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And to ask you about because you wrote about this

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as well, Jimmy Kimmel's return.

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Speaker 3: Did you watch it last night?

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Speaker 1: Were you so excited by his return to the show

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that very few people are watching anymore?

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Speaker 2: Thankfully so. My colleagues at Red State wrote this morning

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another thing that I'm just not interested in. I just

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I just you know, I'm so tired of leftis playing

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the victims. Over the last month or so, we've seen

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that a lot. You know, it was the alleged killer,

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like we just talked about the alleged killer and the

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Arena Z, the Rutskim murder, who was the real victim,

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and then and then you know, in the Charlie Kirk assassination.

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The first few days after that, when we were learning

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more about the alleged killer's family, you know, he was

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his family was allegedly is allegedly a Republican family, and

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the media was kind of going into this direction of

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Tyler Robinson, the alleged killer was a victim of a

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mega family. That's kind of the direction that they were going.

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Speaker 1: Well, first they said he was maga, like the initial right,

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a third of Democrats, one out of three Democrats, I'll

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believe he was maga.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, he was maga. Then he was the victim

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of a mega family. And then when everything happened, was

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Jimmy Kimmel. That Jimmy Kimmel has gotten more coverage and

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and and what happened to him and his reinstatement or whatever.

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He's gotten more coverage than from the media and outrage

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than Charliekirk's fascination. I mean, I haven't done a study

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on it. I haven't done the deep analysis of it.

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But it's just they've spent so much time focusing on

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Jimmy Kimmel over the last week that you almost don't even.

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Speaker 1: You know, well, because they have they have more, they

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have more solid footing for their morally superior position, Like

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that's what they think, Like this is where they can

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and frankly, they needed a pivot. They needed to get

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off of the Charlie Kirk story because it was so

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damaging to Democrats in the left and they know it is.

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That's why when the Kimball suspension happened, that's why they

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rushed in and made it about freedom of speech and

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how he's being censored, which is weird because now he's

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back and like, how would that have happened if the

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government was censoring him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's really and I don't know if

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you caught an eclipse of last night from Kim Will's apparent,

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Like I said, I watched a few that were included

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in my colleague Nico Romus Keith, and it's just astonishing

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to me that he is gaslighting, you know, the people

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who were critical of his comments. And I never it

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wasn't my intention to single out a specific group or

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blame a specific group when that's exactly what he did.

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And then and then you know, and then and then

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you notice how he pivoted. Now we're not going to

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blame a specific group because now we know that this

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person's ideology, So now we're not going to talk about

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ideology anymore, it's just going to be he's a deranged individual.

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what Kimbell said last night was how he referenced Erica

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kirks amazing moment where she said she would forgive her

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husband's alleged killer, which was, you know, that was a

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very powerful moment. Not a lot of people would have

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been able to say or do that, and he referenced it,

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you know, in conjunction with the people that were criticizing him,

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and basically, even though he didn't say the words, it

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was like, well, she can forgive her husband's you know,

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alleged killer. These people should be able to forgive me.

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It's just astonishing chretspa coming from these people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they live in a bubble.

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Speaker 1: Stacy Matthews, catch your work at RedState dot com. Always

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a pleasure, Stacey, take care. We'll talk with you next month.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you all.

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Speaker 1: I take care at Stacy Matthews aka Sister told you

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and RedState dot com is the website. So when I

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was a kid, my grandpa died with Alzheimer's and before

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he died, my mom and my dad took care of

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him as he got worse, Forty years ago, there were

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no treatments and not much support for caregivers and family.

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many people, including the Alzheimer's Association of Western Carolina. It's

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a great organization with awesome people with huge hearts. I've

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been a supporter for twenty five years. This cause means

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a lot to me. I participate in the annual Walk

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to end Alzheimer's and I'm leading a Charlotte team again

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this year, and it's called once again Pete's Pack. You

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can sign up and you can join the team and

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walk with us. It's on October eighteenth, that truest field.

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Sign up at alz dot org slash walk and then

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you can search for my team name Petespac. There's also

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a link at thepetepod dot com. There's also a link

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in the description of this podcast. Also, I'll be am

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seeing the Gastonia Walk on October eleventh, and so you

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can make a team and join that one too, or

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make a donation and help me hit my goal of

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five thousand dollars. If you do, I really appreciate it.

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There are a bunch of other walks all over the

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Carolinas You can go to alz dot org slash Walk

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for all the dates and locations. We're closer than ever

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to stopping Alzheimer's. Can you help us get there? Will

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you walk with me? For a different future, for families,

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for more time for treatments. This is why we walk.

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I appreciate it all right. I promised I would do this,

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thank several people who have donated to the Walk to

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walking on October eighteenth here in Charlotte truest Field.

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Speaker 3: You can join the pacalz dot org slash Walk.

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Speaker 1: And you can make a donation. You can join the

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team and walk with us. I'll also be m seeing

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the walk on October eleventh in Gastonia. These are both Saturdays.

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the Carolinas. The money is used to fund research to

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end Alzheimer's and other dementias, and also it goes to

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provide resources for caregivers and families like my family was.

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had Allzeimer's, and so I've been supporting the Alzheimers Association

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for twenty five plus years. It's a great organization. I

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encourage you to do the same as these people have.

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I shall now give them the credit for the donations

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they have made. We're trying to get to five thousand dollars,

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by the way, and we are at let me see,

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thirty six thirty five is where we are, three thousand,

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six hundred, so we have about fourteen hundred dollars left

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to go to get to our goal of five grand.

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So thank you to anonymous, anonymous, anonymous and anonymous. I

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think that's all one person.

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Speaker 3: No it's not.

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding before anonymous donations. Thank you, Brenda, Christy, CMM, Crystal, Deborah,

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Doug G three, Gene, James, Kim, Mark, Mike, Nick, Me,

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Rob Russ, Soul, Sarah and Frank, Sharon, Teresa and Terry

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and Teresa and the Culia family and Willis. Thank you

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everybody for your donations. I sincerely appreciate it. Again, we're

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trying to get to five thousand dollars. We're about like

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sixty five seventy percent to our goal and time.

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Speaker 3: Is ticking, so if you could make a donation.

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Speaker 1: Every little bit helps get to our goal, and you

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can do that at alz dot org slash walk search

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for Pete's pack, or you can find the link in

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playing some audio and discussing the passage of Arena's Law

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in the North Carolina General Assembly. It passed the Senate

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the other day, and yesterday it passed the House. And

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I've been playing some of the audio clips from the

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quote unquote floor debate. Marsha Moury have been playing some

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of her comments. She is a retired judge and also

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that's right, I have to mention she was a swimmer too,

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an Olympic swimmer. She points that out anytime they talk

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trans issues. Anyway, she rose to oppose the bill as

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a member of the agressive caucus. Again, former judge, and

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she's trying to explain to her Republican colleagues why the

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magistrate in Mecklenburg County should not be blamed for releasing

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the murderer of Arena Zarutzka, who was brought in in

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January of twenty twenty five this year, brought in on

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a misuse of the nine to one to one system

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because he had called the police. There was a mental

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health check. Cops show up, they talked to De Carlos

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Brown Junior, the murderer, and he's like, you know, people

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injected me with some man made material and it's it

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dictates when I eat and what I eat and what

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I say and all this stuff. So obviously the guys

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having some mental health crisis, as the left likes to

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call it. I said crazy, but then that's insensitive, so

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whatever you want to call it. The cops recognize it

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and they're like, well, this sounds like a health issue.

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We are at the hospital already. And he was not

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happy with that. He's like, I need the cops here,

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and they're like, well, we are cops and we are

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already here, and we're telling you this is not a

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police thing. We cannot find somebody injecting you with some

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of this material that you claim is controlling you. So

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what Marshall Morey said that the cops should have done

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is to initiate an involuntary commitment on this guy. That's

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what the cops should have done. See, it's the cops

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fault for not just depriving somebody of their rights without

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any kind of court official weighing in on the matter. Well,

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while they were there and the guy, the murderer, became

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agitated that the cops would not I guess arrest whoever

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it was that was injecting him with this stuff because

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there wasn't anybody there and there was no injecting stuff

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in the first place. He starts nine one one again,

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so that's what they used to arrest him and bring

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him into the court system. Which I'm not a lawyer,

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but I kind of feel like that may have been

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a good entry point for this guy to get the

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involuntary commitment against him. And I think that was up

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to the magistrate. And I think the magistrate should have

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looked back at the guy's record, which he had fourteen

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prior arrests, some of them very violent, and he was

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obviously displaying crazy behavior, and I feel like at that

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point maybe they could have ordered the psyche val they

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put him in, could have put him in front of

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a judge to get the psyche val, but they did not.

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The magistrate said appear at this court date, and that

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court date was six or seven months later in July,

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and he showed up for that. Marsha Moury Stay representative

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former judge. See, the magistrate did her job, and by

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the way, she was following the guidelines that the district

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court draws up for the bail, So she was simply

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following these guidelines, and then she attacked the Republicans for

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not recommending guidelines for the magistrates quarter of.

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Speaker 4: A million dollars for sea fellings. I can go through it.

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I have many county, Waite County, Durham County, Greensboro. If

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you would like to see or suggested bond amounts. Is

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there any suggested bond amount for a violent offender in

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this No, it says a secured bond, so a judge,

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a judge could give, okay, five hundred dollars. Why didn't

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we do tough on crime? You want suggested bond amounts?

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It's certainly not in here. So it does it do

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anything to identify people who are in a mental health crisis,

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be for the fact and not after the fact of crime.

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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, so wait, So I'm unclear. How are

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we supposed to identify people in the mental health crisis

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before the crime?

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Speaker 3: In this case?

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? He was picked up on

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a misuse of the nine to one to one call.

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The facts of that case clearly pointed to mental health issues.

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I'm unclear. But I'm also unclear. Are you advocating, as

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a member of the Progressive Caucus that you want less

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discretion from your Democrat judges on the bench. Is that

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what you're saying that you want the legislative body to

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mandate bail amounts for every single type of crime and

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just take it out of the hands of the magistrates

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and the judges.

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Speaker 3: I accept your offer.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, I fine, you want to do that, Fine,

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let's go ahead and pass the laws and every single

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codified crime. We're gonna set the bails at the legislative level,

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and then we can fire all the magistrates or a

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lot of them, right, because the workload's going to be

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greatly reduced. We won't need them anymore. Right, isn't that

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what you're saying? Well, no, not really, you see because

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then thirty seconds later she objects to the legislature telling

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the judiciary what to do.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's have the General send the legislator ignore separation

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of powers, and we're going to start telling the judiciary

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what to do. We're going to tell the judiciary time

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limits on motions for properate relief. We're going to tell

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the Chief Justice he has new duties and powers.

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Speaker 1: Just see what I mean this is These are different

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portions of the bill talking about the timeline for death

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penalty appeals and stuff, and that the magistrates and who

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oversees them and who can remove them. So on the one,

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literally thirty seconds after she says that you want to

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get tough on crime, well, this is how you do it.

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Get the legislative all up in the business this of

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judicial discretion. And then thirty seconds later she's like, oh,

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you're just ignoring separation of the two branches, which, by

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the way, like there really isn't separation because the lawmakers,

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it's right there in the name law maker, they make

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the law, they tell the judiciary what the laws are.

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There's no interference going on here. The judges are there

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to administer the law as written by the law makers,

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the legislative body.

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Speaker 3: She's just all over the place, and she is like

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like she's.

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Speaker 1: One of the stars of the of the Democrat Party

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North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Like it really is amazing. It's kind of embarrassing. Actually,

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you know.

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Speaker 1: Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things,

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to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of

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who you are, visit creative video dot com. Kevin says,

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Pete are the Democrats on the House floor, saying that

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the attacker's mental illness should prevent us from calling him

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a monster?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean yeah they are.

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Speaker 1: They're like, I don't like the word you're using.

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Speaker 3: You shouldn't you all the guy a monster?

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Speaker 1: How many dead bodies are needed to classify a crazy

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person as a monster. Using that line of reasoning, Jeffrey Dahmer,

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who was definitely mentally ill to do the things he did.

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He would not be classified as a monster.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: This again, it's speech policing. It is a debate tactic

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in order to put you on your heels rhetorically and

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question the language you're using. And oh, now I'm afraid

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I'm going to offend. Oh did I say something wrong?

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It's using it's weaponizing your kindness against you. It's a

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rhetorical device. And once you see it as that. And

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I've been doing this long enough to know, people come

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at me and they make the accusations. And it's why

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people are like, oh my gosh, Pete, that person called

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you blah blah blah, and you didn't say anything. I

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don't have to say anything because I recognize the tactic

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for what it is. So I don't address it because

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it's stupid and it's not the point. Right, My point stands.

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You either address my point, you address my argument on

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the merits of my argument, or shut up, or you've lost. Right,

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And I don't play the game. And if you don't

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play the game, then it doesn't have any power over you.

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So this was the game she was trying to play

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and Brandon Johnson you heard the clip during the news

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he said, yeah, I'm gonna call him a monster. He

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was a monster, so he's not playing the game. This

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is from Michelle. She says, I think what we are

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seeing is called pathological empathy or pathological altruism. It's actually

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so dangerous in damaging. So many people also like to

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gaslight and virtue signal who operate under this line, right,

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It's yes, it's it is a very damaging thing. This

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pathological empathy, like that you are going to essentially sacrifice yourself,

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your own body, You sacrifice yourself to the monster in

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order to signal that you care more. And the monster

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doesn't care about that. They will use that against you.

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What is behind the call for supporting light rail perp

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from the mayor to those in Raleigh, even if they

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are right there is a dead victim. Well again, it's

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the same, it's the same thing. It's the signaling that

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I care. Oh my gosh, where did I remember the

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first time I encountered this. It was after the murder

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of two Charlotte Mecklenburg police officers, Jeff Shelton and Sean Clark.

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They responded to a call there, they couldn't find anybody,

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there was no call to be had or or anything.

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So they start leaving and a guy walks up up

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to them from behind and shoots them both in the head,

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murders them right there on the scene. And at the

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first Charlotte City Council meeting after the murders, the late

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Mayor pro Tem Susan Burgess made a speech and it

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was about and she asked this. This is almost a

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verbatim quote from memory because it's stuck and she got

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dragged for it. Where did we fail.

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Speaker 3: This young man? That's what That's what she was thinking.

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Where did we fail?

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Speaker 1: See? And when you cannot recognize insanity and evil, these

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are the things that you ask because there has to

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be some fix. There has to be some reason for it.

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There isn't when you're dealing with the insane and you're

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dealing with evil, There isn't the logical, rational explanation for all. Right,

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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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