Speaker 1: Live from the heart of the nation's capital. This is
Speaker 1: a Jim Acosta Show special report. All right, welcome to
Speaker 1: the Jim Acosta Show. And it's another day that ends.
Speaker 1: And why with Donald Trump obsessing over his vanity projects
Speaker 1: as US service members are suffering overseas, let's talk about
Speaker 1: all of this with our friend Joe Walsh. Joe, great
Speaker 1: to see you, man.
Speaker 2: Jim Acosta. It's always intrigued to be with you, brother.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Always good to be with you as well. And you know,
Speaker 1: a lot happened this week, and you know, we thought,
Speaker 1: we thought the biggest thing that was happening this week
Speaker 1: was you know, Trump being exposed as is kind of
Speaker 1: a chicken, you know, shuttling from one plane to the next,
Speaker 1: and the whole Air Force One fiasco. But you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that was you know, it's
Speaker 1: an interesting story. It's obviously a very alarming and so on,
Speaker 1: but you know, I can't get over the fact that
Speaker 1: our service members are being put through the ringer on
Speaker 1: places like the USS Abraham Lincoln and the USS Tripoli.
Speaker 1: You know, I've reported on this myself, and others have
Speaker 1: reported on this, and you know, and meanwhile, he's obsessing
Speaker 1: over you know, his vanity projects. They're trying to put
Speaker 1: his name back on the Kennedy Center. He's going to
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court now to green light his white House ballroom.
Speaker 1: That's the you know, the latest from the New York Times.
Speaker 1: You know, he's got to go to his Maga Supreme
Speaker 1: Court for permission to demolish the nation's capital. But Joe,
Speaker 1: your thoughts on all of this, I mean, a lot
Speaker 1: to digest this week, But to me it speaks to
Speaker 1: we kind of have an absentee landlord as president of
Speaker 1: the United States right now.
Speaker 2: Hey, Jim, you covered him better than damn near anybody
Speaker 2: in his first term.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: And and he's you and I have talked about this before.
Speaker 2: He's obviously older and different and messed up in the head,
Speaker 2: but like he's like he like openly doesn't give a
Speaker 2: fly and fuck about anybody or anything but himself. He's
Speaker 2: always been that way. But Jim, even like in the
Speaker 2: first term of back in twenty sixteen, after he got elected,
Speaker 2: when you covered him, he seemed to be more cognizant
Speaker 2: and aware of things going on around him, and even
Speaker 2: just politically, he'd show he cares that seems to be
Speaker 2: utterly gone now, and I mean react to that because
Speaker 2: I'm always stunned by that difference. He's always been a
Speaker 2: horrible human being. He's always been a sociopath, but he
Speaker 2: gave the appearance in his first term that politically he
Speaker 2: at least cared about stuff. He doesn't do that now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's very good. It's interesting that you raise
Speaker 1: that point. I mean, I've talked about this. I don't
Speaker 1: remember him ever falling asleep when I covered him during
Speaker 1: the first term. I certainly don't remember him falling asleep
Speaker 1: in the Oval office with people standing over him talking.
Speaker 1: I don't have the video set up. Everybody's seeing the
Speaker 1: video of the young lady touching her stomach and then
Speaker 1: he like wakes up all of a sudden. I've been
Speaker 1: calling it the Knapper and the ZAPFR. But you know,
Speaker 1: he and but the obsession over the vanity projects, and
Speaker 1: you know, if the Supreme Court says yes it's okay
Speaker 1: Donald Trump to knock down part of the White House,
Speaker 1: that is going to be maybe not the height of
Speaker 1: just rolling over and playing dead for a wanna be dictator.
Speaker 1: I mean, they did that with the immunity decision. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, letting him just go full blown, you know,
Speaker 1: Saddam Hussein uh Liberachi with the with the White House,
Speaker 1: which is supposed to be the People's House, to me,
Speaker 1: would kind of typify things, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he doesn't, he doesn't have the authority to
Speaker 2: do it. And here we are again. So if the
Speaker 2: Supreme Court, as you said, allows him to go ahead
Speaker 2: and do whatever he wants on the grounds of the
Speaker 2: People's House, I think you're gonna see a real uproar,
Speaker 2: a revolutionary uproar in this cunt. But Jim, you nailed
Speaker 2: it at the top. It's August fourteenth, twenty twenty six,
Speaker 2: and we have American sailors who are literally jumping overboard
Speaker 2: into the sea because they're living on ship in horrific conditions.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean to.
Speaker 2: Me, that's it's always hard to say this. That's the
Speaker 2: biggest headline of the week. And that guy in the
Speaker 2: White House, because of his stupid illegal war, he didn't
Speaker 2: give a fuck about this. He doesn't care about these sailors.
Speaker 1: No, he definitely doesn't. And it seems Pete Hegseth doesn't
Speaker 1: care about them either. We can play some of what
Speaker 1: Pete Hegsath has been saying, you know, some of this
Speaker 1: happened on the USS Abraham Lincoln, but it's been happening
Speaker 1: on other ships. If we have that Pete Hegseth bite,
Speaker 1: let's play it. Listen.
Speaker 3: We make sure at every ship, every crew, every captain
Speaker 3: has everything we can provide them at every single month.
Speaker 1: Some deployments are longer than others.
Speaker 3: And I have more respect and gratitude for those sailors
Speaker 3: than anybody. What they do in those high seas and
Speaker 3: those usterier conditions with less port calls.
Speaker 2: It's incredible.
Speaker 1: Americans don't understand what it's like to do that.
Speaker 3: So as someone who's been not been on a ship
Speaker 3: like that, but been on long deployments, I feel it.
Speaker 1: I want them home.
Speaker 3: As soon as everybody else do. I want folks rotating
Speaker 3: as quick as as possible. I want the best for them.
Speaker 3: My commanders know that, our service secretaries know that the
Speaker 3: President expects that, and so to that crew and to
Speaker 3: all those crews, we're going to do everything we can
Speaker 3: for you. And we are so grateful for their dedication
Speaker 3: of that crew and others.
Speaker 1: They've held the line for the country. Yeah, he's so
Speaker 1: full of shit. His eyes are brown. But you know,
Speaker 1: and the other thing, Joe is, I was getting texts
Speaker 1: from the mother of a sailor who was on board
Speaker 1: the USS Tripoli, and I was showing some of these
Speaker 1: texts earlier. This is what this mother says. He lost
Speaker 1: talking about her son, he lost over thirty pounds in
Speaker 1: four months. He's afraid to reveal the exact number because
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to worry everybody. She says they were
Speaker 1: one hundred percent silenced. They weren't allowed to speak negatively
Speaker 1: about these ships or the leadership command, which I think
Speaker 1: is part of being in the service. But that included
Speaker 1: low food and hygiene supplies. And she says, my son
Speaker 1: did have to talk someone on his ship and talk
Speaker 1: them out of suicide. And the Navy Times was reporting
Speaker 1: that there are people jumping overboard at least one sailor
Speaker 1: jumping overboard the USS Abraham Lincoln. And you know, it
Speaker 1: just speaks to you know, Pete hexseth Is. To say
Speaker 1: he's in over his head is sort of like saying
Speaker 1: the pope is Catholic. It's you know, or bear shits
Speaker 1: in the woods. It's obvious. But he is so not
Speaker 1: up to the challenge here, and it's astonishing to me
Speaker 1: that he's still in this job.
Speaker 2: He's a tool. He's Trump's tool, that's all he is.
Speaker 1: Jim.
Speaker 2: Last week, I think it was two hundred families of
Speaker 2: these sailors sat down with Navy officials in leaded with
Speaker 2: them and they basically got no response. I mean, again,
Speaker 2: this is the commander in chief. The overall context here
Speaker 2: is this was a stupid illegal war. Trump has messed
Speaker 2: it up every step along the way. That's why we're
Speaker 2: still here. That's why those sailors are still on that ship.
Speaker 2: And Jim Trump does not know how to end it.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know how to get out of it, and
Speaker 2: our men and women are paying a price for that.
Speaker 1: He has no idea how to end this show. And
Speaker 1: he's painted himself into a corner. And I know when
Speaker 1: you were in Congress there, you better dan believe there
Speaker 1: would have been oversight hearings if Barack Obama were the president,
Speaker 1: Joe Biden was the president, and you had a service
Speaker 1: you had service members jumping overboard and sending over photos
Speaker 1: to the press of like shitty food and poor conditions
Speaker 1: on these ships. Republicans on Capitol Hill their heads would
Speaker 1: have popped off. They would have been losing their minds,
Speaker 1: and rightly so. And you know it, just the stunning
Speaker 1: silence that we're seeing right now from the GEO. I
Speaker 1: know I shouldn't get depressed about this shit, but man,
Speaker 1: it is so depressing now at the state of affairs
Speaker 1: right now that there's just no oversight. Trump could do
Speaker 1: whatever he wants.
Speaker 2: Jim Acosta, whenever I'm with you, you're generally more optimistic than
Speaker 2: I am. Don't you get like me. Look, we do
Speaker 2: not have a Congress. We have not had a Congress
Speaker 2: for eighteen months. It's part of why Trump. It's a
Speaker 2: big part of why Trump can do what he wants.
Speaker 2: It's why he can be openly corrupt and stuff his
Speaker 2: pockets with billions because he knows Congress doesn't exist and
Speaker 2: won't do anything about it. But look, again, you're so right.
Speaker 2: There's not a week that goes by where I don't
Speaker 2: ask myself that or bring up that point. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: if Barack Obama had done this, my former Republican colleagues,
Speaker 2: I mean this past you'll just last month, interest on
Speaker 2: the debt for the first time in the month of
Speaker 2: July exceeded what we paid in total in US military
Speaker 2: dollars and what we paid healthcare for seniors. And again,
Speaker 2: if this were Obama doing what he's doing, doing what
Speaker 2: Trump's doing to the debt, Republicans would be knocking down
Speaker 2: the walls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that is a ticking fiscal time bomb, there's
Speaker 1: no question about it. And Trump has been running up
Speaker 1: the debt. You know, some of this got run up
Speaker 1: during COVID. But you know, when we're not we don't
Speaker 1: tax the billionaires or the trillionaires for that matter. I
Speaker 1: guess maybe Elon Musk is not a trillionaire anymore. But
Speaker 1: you mentioned the corruption, and I think that is going
Speaker 1: to be a massively sailing an issue heading into the
Speaker 1: fall campaign. I think people are pissed that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: has enriched himself and his family off of the White
Speaker 1: House this time around with the crypto and the stock trades,
Speaker 1: and apparently Elizabeth Warren and Robert Garcias enter a letter
Speaker 1: saying we want to know more about the stock trads. Yes,
Speaker 1: we need to know more about the stock trades, but
Speaker 1: you know what, you know, it's you know, the tea,
Speaker 1: the kettle is starting to boil on the stove when
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan is paying attention. Apparently, Joe Rogan, we can
Speaker 1: play this. Jo's like, Wow, what the fuck? What's going
Speaker 1: on here with the crypto? Can we play this?
Speaker 4: No government has ever done before, and one of them
Speaker 4: is the crypto stuff.
Speaker 1: The crypto stuff's nuts.
Speaker 4: It's like Trump has made billions in crypto and then
Speaker 4: you got his sons, and his sons are involved in
Speaker 4: all these weird business deals where the business deals have
Speaker 4: to do with some things that Trump put and then
Speaker 4: the sons are involved in these businesses, and like there's
Speaker 4: a lot of money flowing around that you could dig
Speaker 4: in and start arresting.
Speaker 1: I thank you, Joe Rogan, good night, everybody, We're done.
Speaker 2: Where the fuck you Ben Joe? Look, he's Jim He
Speaker 2: Rogan is so dishonest and so dangerous. There's no way
Speaker 2: on God's green earth he did not know that this
Speaker 2: is who Trump was, and he fully embraced him, fully
Speaker 2: endorsed him. Rogan was at the White House just two
Speaker 2: three months ago on another for another issue. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's playing both sides. He doesn't want to lose his audience,
Speaker 2: but Jim and he does such a disservice to his
Speaker 2: audience because he just pedals bullshit after bullshit. But it
Speaker 2: is Jim, You're right, it is the corruption. I mean,
Speaker 2: it should be a massive blue tsunami in November. He
Speaker 2: has been stuffing his pockets again, as you and I say,
Speaker 2: Jim out in the open, he doesn't care, and the
Speaker 2: American people are struggling. If Democrats can't win, just putting
Speaker 2: that in front of every voter, then Democrats can't win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's so true. And Joe Rogan, I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: like you know, as you said, he is smarter than this.
Speaker 1: But I think his sidekick on the show is saying
Speaker 1: the government's so corrupt that you know what fuck that
Speaker 1: presidents have not been enriching themselves off of crypto and
Speaker 1: stop trades like this until Donald Trump came along. This
Speaker 1: is the most thoroughly corrupt presidency in American history. Get
Speaker 1: your shit straight, get your facts right. And they need
Speaker 1: to explain to the American people because he has a
Speaker 1: big audience in a big platform what a crook Donald
Speaker 1: Trump is. And you know, maybe they've got uh, you know,
Speaker 1: buyer's remorse. I mean, I don't think they're buyers. They're
Speaker 1: laughing all the way to the bank. But I mean,
Speaker 1: at least be straight up about this shit. Don't act like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: the government's it's him.
Speaker 2: It's him, Jim. That's it again. Look, Logan's got a
Speaker 2: huge audience. He's not honest with his audience. He also
Speaker 2: came out this week and said, oh my god, is
Speaker 2: this real? Like Trump's for one hundred grand a month,
Speaker 2: you can get early access, Like like Joe Rogan acted.
Speaker 1: Surprise, I saw that.
Speaker 2: I doubt about that. That's bullshit.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's flat it's flat out insider trading. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's Joe. It's sort of like
Speaker 1: they're they're advertising that they're going to rob a bank.
Speaker 1: So Trump's gonna rob a bank, and he takes out
Speaker 1: an ad in the New York Times and says, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna rob a bank and it's going to happen at
Speaker 1: noon on Friday, and it's gonna be the first bank
Speaker 1: of America whatever the fuck you want to call it
Speaker 1: in Times Square, and I'm gonna get your cameras out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go rob this bank. That is what he's
Speaker 1: doing with this insider trading thing. On true Social He's
Speaker 1: announcing to everybody that he's going to do this, and
Speaker 1: if you want to in on the action, you can
Speaker 1: get in on the act, and that makes it legal somehow.
Speaker 2: Well, and Jim, I love that because that's the analogy
Speaker 2: I've used without Trunk is gonna fuck with the midterms.
Speaker 2: He's I mean, the other big takeaway this week was
Speaker 2: he basically kind of said, Okay, I'll declare a national
Speaker 2: security emergency. Stranger things have happened. He's your bank heist analogy.
Speaker 2: He's telling people he's gonna mess with the midterms. He's
Speaker 2: gonna screw with the midterms. I just I don't know
Speaker 2: why Democrats, why we don't pre empt him. It's a crime.
Speaker 2: It's a crime, Jim, as you said, to plot robbing
Speaker 2: a bank, just the plotting of it is a crime.
Speaker 2: Donald Trump right now is plotting to either cancel, screw with,
Speaker 2: or mess with, or delegitimize the elections in November. And
Speaker 2: I just don't see people paying enough attention to that.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: I agree with you one hundred percent. And I think
Speaker 1: that they're going to try. They're going to try to
Speaker 1: do something. They're already sending DOJ officials to polling locations
Speaker 1: to see if they can see brown skinned people going
Speaker 1: into vote and so on, and it's completely racist, awful garbage,
Speaker 1: but he's going to try. And my concern is is
Speaker 1: that you know, right now, they may be sending out
Speaker 1: the ones who are perhaps the most responsible of the
Speaker 1: crooks that they have working for them, and the flunkies
Speaker 1: and lackeys and so on. But there'll be some goofballs
Speaker 1: that they'll send out this fall. And if they put
Speaker 1: Ice out there, and Ice, they're all a bunch of
Speaker 1: douchebags and Ice. I'm sorry if I'm going off. It's
Speaker 1: the end of the week. Maybe I'm a little tired.
Speaker 1: I love it, Jim go, but I mean, but Joe,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at some of these recent ICE
Speaker 1: videos and I know you've been going off on this
Speaker 1: too on your socials. It is absolutely I don't I know,
Speaker 1: people are numb to all of this, and it's been
Speaker 1: you know, I you know, I used to say Trump
Speaker 1: one point, I was a fire hose of lies. Now
Speaker 1: it's a fire hose of corruption and craziness. But but
Speaker 1: ICE is behaving like a secret police force in this country. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is not the United States of America. That you
Speaker 1: and I grew up in Joe, where masked federal officers
Speaker 1: just show up and point guns at people all over
Speaker 1: the fucking place. And I'm sorry, at the end of
Speaker 1: all of this, somebody needs to go to jail. This
Speaker 1: is absolutely outlaw criminal behavior on the part of the government,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna need documents to be searched through to
Speaker 1: see who is sending out the orders. And Tom Holm
Speaker 1: and you better get ready, Pal, you better lawyer up
Speaker 1: because you know some of this stuff is coming your way.
Speaker 1: But I mean your thoughts on all of this, Joe,
Speaker 1: because it is it's they're cranking up ice I think,
Speaker 1: right in time for the midterms to put fear in
Speaker 1: the water, and it's scary.
Speaker 2: They're going to do everything they can, Jim, to intimidate
Speaker 2: brown and black voters to not vote. The beauty of Trump,
Speaker 2: if you want to call it beauty is again he's
Speaker 2: forcing us, like right fucking now, to decide what kind
Speaker 2: of country we want to be. And the abject cruelty
Speaker 2: that were the fascism that we're seeing on our streets,
Speaker 2: to me makes it really easy for American voters. Is
Speaker 2: this what you want America to be? Do? You want
Speaker 2: mass feederal thugs doing this to immigrants and citizens on
Speaker 2: our streets. I mean Trump's doing it. He's forcing us
Speaker 2: to decide in November if this is the kind of
Speaker 2: country we want to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will say, you know, if one or
Speaker 1: both houses of Congress remain Republican, I think the House
Speaker 1: will flip to the Democrats. But if the Senate remained
Speaker 1: and Republican control, you're just gonna have divided, gridlock government
Speaker 1: for the next two years, which to me opens up
Speaker 1: the floodgates to Donald Trump and Todd Blanche and whoever
Speaker 1: whatever goofball they have in charge of DHS. Maybe he'll
Speaker 1: finally put Steven Miller in there as an acting DHS secretary,
Speaker 1: and they're just going to run wild in this country.
Speaker 1: And people need to understand it is going to be that.
Speaker 1: If you think the first two years were bad, the
Speaker 1: second two years, after he's gotten his ass kicked in
Speaker 1: the midterms, are going to be really bad. With Todd
Speaker 1: Blanche as the Attorney General and he's flirting with running again,
Speaker 1: or you know, national emergency shutting down elections and all
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. I think you know, we're this
Speaker 1: is these are some challenging times ahead.
Speaker 2: Uh, we cannot afford to have a failure of imagination.
Speaker 2: You nailed it, Jim. To imagine the absolute worst he'll do,
Speaker 2: you said, Todd Blanche. He has Trump now has utter
Speaker 2: loyalists in all of these key position since DHS, the FBI,
Speaker 2: the Justice Department, two week havoc the final two years
Speaker 2: of his term. People, Jim, that's it's a great point.
Speaker 2: People aren't talking about that enough. Even if Democrats take
Speaker 2: back the House. Yes, two years are going to be
Speaker 2: a nightmare.
Speaker 1: I agree with this, and this is what I've been
Speaker 1: talking about. I'm so glad that, you know, our friend
Speaker 1: Katie Fang has been, you know, on the forefront, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of leading the charge against Todd Blanche because I mean,
Speaker 1: he's already proven himself to be a rogue acting Attorney General,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna act this way as the permanent ag.
Speaker 1: You know, they put out this memo the other day
Speaker 1: that said that, you know, executive privilege basically applies to
Speaker 1: everybody under the sun, which is insane, and that's going
Speaker 1: to have to get challenged in the courts. And so,
Speaker 1: you know, they have figured out how to play the
Speaker 1: constitution like a fiddle in this country and play the
Speaker 1: courts like a fiddle in this country. Trump mastered this
Speaker 1: during Joe Biden's presidency when his ass was in hot
Speaker 1: water and legal hot water over January sixth, and the
Speaker 1: classified documents. Just keep delaying things and filing filing bullshit
Speaker 1: things with the courts, and you can just stretch and
Speaker 1: drag things out and make everybody miserable. And he can
Speaker 1: just do that. Yet again, if people think, oh, he
Speaker 1: won't run for a third term because of the Constitution, Okay, no,
Speaker 1: and have a great time in fantasyland. Welcome.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Jim, people with large platforms like
Speaker 2: you and a smaller like me like I get. I
Speaker 2: get some listeners and followers who will say, we spend
Speaker 2: too much time talking about the crazy shit that Trump
Speaker 2: might do, and I get I still get Democrats who
Speaker 2: will roll their eyes at me when I say, what
Speaker 2: do you mean Trump won't run for a third term, Like,
Speaker 2: what do you mean Mike Johnson? If the Democrats win
Speaker 2: the House by two or three seats, that Mike Johnson
Speaker 2: will automatically seat that new Congress. What do you mean?
Speaker 2: And I still get people rolling their eyes at me.
Speaker 2: And this, this goes back to twenty twenty. The guy
Speaker 2: tried to overthrow an American election. He committed crimes. Don't
Speaker 2: you dare tell me that that he's not capable of
Speaker 2: doing anything this time around to hang on to power.
Speaker 2: Don't do that.
Speaker 1: No, it's so true, it's so right. And you know,
Speaker 1: you have kind of a shamelessness, you know, Olympics going on,
Speaker 1: and in Congress. You know, I saw your tweet about
Speaker 1: Ted Cruz pedaling vaccine lies, and I you know, I
Speaker 1: just I think to myself, you know, Ted Cruse, he's
Speaker 1: like Ivy League educated and all this stuff. It's your
Speaker 1: Corse shit. And then Bill Cassidy. But Bill Cassidy takes
Speaker 1: the cake because Bill Cassidy voted for RFK Junior, and
Speaker 1: Bill Cassidy the other day, of course, votes for Todd
Speaker 1: Blanche even though Trump is running his ass out of Washington,
Speaker 1: running his ass out of I don't know, maybe Bill
Speaker 1: Cassidy go work on K Street or something. And so
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, I got to make a buck. But
Speaker 1: I think we have Bill Cassidy being asked about all
Speaker 1: of the and just sounding really pathetic. Let me see
Speaker 1: we have this Ultimately voted to confirm RFK Junior as secretary,
Speaker 1: and then you also recently cleared the way for Erica
Speaker 1: Schwartz's confirmation as CDC director. Do you regret those decisions?
Speaker 5: Well, so, first, this is a presidential executive order. RFK
Speaker 5: told me he was not going to change ACIP. So
Speaker 5: if you want to tell me, I was somebody didn't
Speaker 5: tell me the truth, and I should have liked, you know,
Speaker 5: seeing in the future that they were not going to
Speaker 5: tell the truth.
Speaker 1: You can say, oh, Bill, you should have seen it into.
Speaker 5: The future, in which case I'd be on your show
Speaker 5: talking about the futures of stocks as opposed to vaccine policy.
Speaker 2: And I anticipate Erica Schwartz, we'll do the right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to take him down. You know, maybe Joe.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, it boils down to
Speaker 1: this epidemic, you know, if you want to talk to
Speaker 1: medical terms of cowardice. Yeah, And Bill Cassidy is he's
Speaker 1: smart enough to know that RFK Junior was going to
Speaker 1: be a quack as the HHS secretary, And he's just
Speaker 1: a coward. They're just they're just cowards.
Speaker 2: And it pains me. I served with Cassidy in the
Speaker 2: House so so.
Speaker 1: Formand I'm sorry if I'm making you say anything.
Speaker 2: No, no, Jim, No, he's an utter coward. And I've
Speaker 2: said it publicly before. He's a physician. He abandoned his
Speaker 2: damn oh uh. And there he is yesterday like lying
Speaker 2: about it. You you voted to confirm RFK Junior. Just
Speaker 2: fucking own it, own it, own it. But but Jim,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like Cassidy and Corny and Tillius. These
Speaker 2: guys are on their way out and they still voted
Speaker 2: to confirm top Lanche. There's and it's it's the pull
Speaker 2: in the tug because if you do what I did
Speaker 2: or Kinsinger did, you're you're like excommunicated from the Republican
Speaker 2: Country Club. You don't get the speaking engagements anymore, you
Speaker 2: don't get the lobbying gigs. And even though they're leaving office, Jim,
Speaker 2: they don't want to leave that life, which is why
Speaker 2: they don't have the courage to do the right thing.
Speaker 1: Still, yeah, no, and I just you know, I keep
Speaker 1: going back to Ted Cruz and I didn't get that
Speaker 1: clip ready or anything. But you know, I've often said,
Speaker 1: and I'll say it again that the problem is not
Speaker 1: that that Ted Cruise went to Kancun, it's that he
Speaker 1: came back. And you know, you know he he typifies this.
Speaker 1: You know, people just selling their souls and cashing in
Speaker 1: their chips and just going whole hog for Donald Trump
Speaker 1: and no matter what happens to your soul, no matter
Speaker 1: what happens to the country, Like Mike Lee, I know,
Speaker 1: you used to serve like Lee used to be. And
Speaker 1: these guys are turkeys, man. They just they just want
Speaker 1: to stay in office and keep like they like being
Speaker 1: treated like kings, I guess, and they don't want give that.
Speaker 2: And they they Jim, they and I've had private conversations
Speaker 2: with them over the years, like you can't you sell
Speaker 2: your soul, you can't get it back. And there are
Speaker 2: Republicans that are high on Marco Rubio right now. I
Speaker 2: mean to pay attention to Marco Rubio. Yeah, he's not JD. Vance,
Speaker 2: but he's a hollow man. Marco Rubio is out there
Speaker 2: every day doing and saying things he doesn't believe in
Speaker 2: to stay in that seat of power. You talk about
Speaker 2: a man who's lost his soul and he just typifies it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Joe, and I will say, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a Cuban American. I'm Cuban American. If I were
Speaker 1: serving in that administration and I were watching these atrocities
Speaker 1: play out on the evening news or on social media
Speaker 1: each and every day, with Ice in the administration roughing
Speaker 1: up and brutalizing Latino people in this country, I would
Speaker 1: definitely go rogue and definitely speak out against these assholes.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he can just like keep his
Speaker 1: lip sealed and not say anything and just watch that
Speaker 1: on I don't know. I mean, I guess, you know,
Speaker 1: he thinks he's gonna somehow become president, and I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe he will, who the fuck knows. I really don't
Speaker 1: think that that's going to happen. I think that this
Speaker 1: goes back to being the optimist versus the pessimist. I
Speaker 1: do think, and of course that people are gonna be like,
Speaker 1: how can you be at all optimists? Donald Trump has
Speaker 1: been president twice, which is true. But I just think
Speaker 1: that this moment that we're in right now, Joe, is
Speaker 1: a test. It's been a test of all of us,
Speaker 1: It's been a test of this country. It's a test
Speaker 1: of this constitution. I said this during the two hundred
Speaker 1: and fiftieth birthday. What a great refresher course and constitutional
Speaker 1: democracy and so on to have a want to be
Speaker 1: dictator as president. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: the people who sold their souls to this Turkey, I
Speaker 1: don't think they get the keys to the castle. I
Speaker 1: don't think it works that way now. Of course, if
Speaker 1: they just pull off a coup and try to take
Speaker 1: over the government, I guess that, But I just don't
Speaker 1: think they're enough. There are enough bad people in this
Speaker 1: country who will go along with that, like in the
Speaker 1: Middle Terry, for example. I think I just don't think
Speaker 1: there are enough people who are going to make that happen.
Speaker 1: I just I think Mark or Rubio in the end,
Speaker 1: people like JD. Vance, they've been useful clowns and lackeys
Speaker 1: for Donald Trump, but they just don't get to the
Speaker 1: Promised Land because people, at the end of the day
Speaker 1: will not respect you for just trading in all of
Speaker 1: your principles and your soul to this badman.
Speaker 2: I agree with that, Jim, But my former political party
Speaker 2: ain't never changed in not in my life. I agree
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: I agree with you.
Speaker 2: So guys like Rubio and Vance and all the rest,
Speaker 2: they're gonna be the Republican Party. Could Rubio or Advance
Speaker 2: become president, don't know, but most certainly they could. Either
Speaker 2: one could get the Republican Party nomination, because that party
Speaker 2: is like literally gone now and it isn't coming back.
Speaker 2: And that's another thing. I think America needs to face
Speaker 2: two political parties. One is completely gone now and it's
Speaker 2: not coming back.
Speaker 1: No, I agree with you, and you know, I will
Speaker 1: say I was having this conversation with I went up
Speaker 1: to MS NOW this past week and get a segment
Speaker 1: up there, and I was talking to one of the anchors,
Speaker 1: and you know, this anchor was saying, well, maybe you know,
Speaker 1: a Democrat will come in and they'll win, and you know,
Speaker 1: things will start going back to normal and that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. We thought that with Joe Biden. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it goes back to what you were saying, Joe about
Speaker 1: the Republican Party. I think it's quite possible that we're
Speaker 1: entering an era that is kind of akin to Northern
Speaker 1: Ireland and the Troubles, and it just goes on for
Speaker 1: a couple of decades and it gets better and it
Speaker 1: gets worse, and it gets better and it gets worse,
Speaker 1: and it's difficult to get through the end of it
Speaker 1: until there's some sort of agreement to just everybody lay
Speaker 1: down their arms, stop doing this, and we move forward
Speaker 1: as a country and there's some sort of event that
Speaker 1: occurs that maybe brings us all back together. But I
Speaker 1: don't know what that is. But I don't understand how
Speaker 1: the Republicans. It's not like, you know, somebody throws water
Speaker 1: on the witch and the witch melts in the Wizard
Speaker 1: of Oz and then all of a sudden, the flying
Speaker 1: monkeys are okay again. Like I just don't see that happening.
Speaker 2: No, No, because look, Jim, it's as you and I
Speaker 2: have discussed, trump Ism has metastasized well beyond Trump. Like
Speaker 2: when I turned against Trump eight years ago, MAGA was fringe.
Speaker 2: MAGA now is the party. Yeah, completely, And it's almost
Speaker 2: unfair to the Democratic Party. And so many of us
Speaker 2: criticize the Democratic Party get your act together, But they
Speaker 2: do have a lot of pressure on them because they
Speaker 2: are literally, quite literally problems and all. The Democratic Party
Speaker 2: is the only sane pro democracy party this country has
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I think, you know, the Democrats
Speaker 1: have their issues and they're going to have to figure
Speaker 1: it out, and you know, I think what happened to
Speaker 1: Wisconsin this week was pretty encouraging. The person who has
Speaker 1: criticized Thanksgiving lost, you know that. And I think once
Speaker 1: the voters, you know, there's a lot of talking, well,
Speaker 1: the polls were really off. It must have been the polls.
Speaker 1: I also think it's the poles might have been off
Speaker 1: a little bit. But I also think that people might
Speaker 1: have been paying attention right at the last minute with
Speaker 1: the last week or so and said I'm going to
Speaker 1: go with the more pragmatic guy. And I think Democrats,
Speaker 1: I think, by and large understand the assignment and they're
Speaker 1: going to be strategic about this. And yeah, there are
Speaker 1: going to be some places where some goofy candidates emerged
Speaker 1: and that sort of thing. But it you know, again,
Speaker 1: it's not it's apples and oranges to say that the
Speaker 1: Democrat they're going to try to peddle this socialist thing
Speaker 1: over on Fox and everything else and Donald Trump, and
Speaker 1: so it's so stupid they're communists, you know. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's so dumb that the Democratic Party is not the
Speaker 1: anti democracy, anti constitution party. It is. It isn't disorgan party,
Speaker 1: as Will Rogers famously put it. I'm not a member
Speaker 1: of an organized party. I'm a Democrat, but it's not
Speaker 1: at all an affront to America, which is what no.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's party has become.
Speaker 2: No, Jim, look, I'm a Democrat here a little over
Speaker 2: a year on policy, I'm not really a Democrat, but
Speaker 2: my god, the Democratic Party believes in democracy and the
Speaker 2: rule of law. That's enough for me right now. This
Speaker 2: other party doesn't. And there are still too many Americans
Speaker 2: that don't fully grasp that, which goes back to something
Speaker 2: you said five ten minutes ago. If we're not ready,
Speaker 2: if we can't imagine the absolute worst Trump will do
Speaker 2: in these midterms, like literally put troops on the street,
Speaker 2: literally inside violence, literally put ice at polling places where
Speaker 2: brown and black voters vote, brown and black people vote,
Speaker 2: then you're really missing the ball. We've got to imagine
Speaker 2: the worst and be for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no question. Well, Joe, great to see man, great conversation.
Speaker 1: We cover a lot of ground. And uh, congrats to
Speaker 1: you and your family. I know there was some great
Speaker 1: personal news on your front and with your daughter getting
Speaker 1: married everything, So graps to you, Joe. Good to see
Speaker 1: you man, Thanks brother. Thanks, Okay, I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Joe Walsh there, and I you know, I do want
Speaker 1: to I do want to call out some more bullshit
Speaker 1: before we go.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: First item on the agenda is, Sean Hannity is so
Speaker 1: full of shit? Sean Hannity, I guess had former New
Speaker 1: York mayor Build a Blasio on a show, and Build
Speaker 1: a Blasio is being asked about. I guess some of
Speaker 1: the Democratic candidates, and and Build a Blasio turned it
Speaker 1: right back around on Sean Handy started criticizing Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and I made a Wizard of Oz reference earlier, and
Speaker 1: I guess I'll make another one. It's sort of like
Speaker 1: the curtain got pulled back a little bit on Fox
Speaker 1: News on Sean Hannity's program, Uh, let's play this if
Speaker 1: we can and talk about it. Do you like Hassan Piker?
Speaker 1: Do you support him?
Speaker 2: I have mixed views, but I think you're the way
Speaker 2: you were describing him.
Speaker 1: You could have been talking about Donald Trump honestly.
Speaker 2: Tozy's up to dictators says extreme things.
Speaker 1: All right, Bill, you break brill you're breaking the rules.
Speaker 1: I didn't agree to the rules. My question, Sean Handy says,
Speaker 1: you're breaking the rules. What are the rules Sean Hannity.
Speaker 1: I just want to ask, what are the rules? Are
Speaker 1: the rules that if you come on Sean Hannity's program
Speaker 1: and prime time on Fox News, that you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to criticize Donald Trump? Is that the rule is that
Speaker 1: what Sean Handy is talking. Could Sean Hannity elaborate on
Speaker 1: what the rules are for coming on Fox? That would
Speaker 1: be really useful information. I'm pretty sure that it has
Speaker 1: been exposed now that Fox has a rule if you
Speaker 1: come on Sean Hannity's show, you're not allowed to criticize
Speaker 1: the dear Leader. Gosh, isn't that something I guess I'll
Speaker 1: never be on Fox in primetime. Maybe that's why they
Speaker 1: like to go after me on Fox, but you know
Speaker 1: they they they don't want to invite me on to
Speaker 1: to have any kind of discussion. The other piece of
Speaker 1: news that I want to talk about very quickly before
Speaker 1: we go calling out a little more bullshit, as I guess,
Speaker 1: Fox was going off on Abdul al say Ed dancing
Speaker 1: in this video.
Speaker 6: He was mail and never fails, and there he is
Speaker 6: like a blues clues thing, and you know, he was
Speaker 6: trying to tell people to get ready to vote and stuff,
Speaker 6: and you can vote by mail and everything.
Speaker 1: And you know, blues Clu is a very cute little cartoon.
Speaker 6: I remember my kids used to love it.
Speaker 1: There it is right there. I don't want to play
Speaker 1: too much because I don't want YouTube to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, copyright that. But anyway, so they're making fun
Speaker 1: of Abdul, I'll say, yet for dancing and having a
Speaker 1: good time. And I'm thinking to myself, hmmm, a politician
Speaker 1: dancing maybe acting a little goofy. Fox, are you really
Speaker 1: going to make some political hay out of this when
Speaker 1: you have I don't know, the dear leader himself, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump embarrassing him call on a regular basis. Here he
Speaker 1: is at the Department of Justice doing the the jerking
Speaker 1: off the giraffe dance that he does to YMCA at
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice. There's Pam Bonni right there clapping along. O.
Speaker 1: That's so nice when he did when he does the
Speaker 1: jerkoff dance, there's Donald Trump to do it. And I
Speaker 1: think we have we have another one. We have another
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Uh maybe not. There's that that that probably is.
Speaker 1: But then you get the gist, Fox News, you can't
Speaker 1: give I'll do yet I know you have a problem
Speaker 1: with I'll do yet because he has a foreign name,
Speaker 1: you can't give him a hard time for dancing and
Speaker 1: having a good time. When Donald Trump is the president
Speaker 1: of the United States and and you treat him like
Speaker 1: the deer leader over at State Television that does not
Speaker 1: that does not hold any kind of water whatsoever. And
Speaker 1: so I just needed to call out that bullshit. And
Speaker 1: I saw that the White House Rapid Response forty seven account,
Speaker 1: which is just a dumpster fire that is run by
Speaker 1: a bunch of in cells over at the White House.
Speaker 1: They were going off on one of my former colleagues
Speaker 1: over at CNN because she was doing a video where
Speaker 1: she was dancing and stuff like that. I'm thinking to myself,
Speaker 1: you're going off on people for dancing and having good time.
Speaker 1: And Donald Trump acts like a complete clown and goofball
Speaker 1: and does the weird jerk off dance to the YMCA.
Speaker 1: It's embarrassing. The hypocrisy, the goofiness is embarrassing. Donald Trump
Speaker 1: doing this on a regular basis is embarrassing. And again,
Speaker 1: if we play the music too much, get YouTube copy ry.
Speaker 1: You can't play this and so we do only get
Speaker 1: intomuch trouble there, but Darry is doing the goofy Ymca
Speaker 1: dance one final thing before we go. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of memes this week. Am I
Speaker 1: gonna get myself in trouble here? I'm probably gonna get
Speaker 1: myself trouble alert. I'm gonna get in trouble here before
Speaker 1: the end of the show, just so you know, and
Speaker 1: you're all in on this. Enjoyed the Air Force one
Speaker 1: memes this week? Donald Trump hiding in a catering container.
Speaker 1: And you know, there have been lots of different memes
Speaker 1: the whole world is laughing at at the President of
Speaker 1: the United States, and which has not a new experience
Speaker 1: for all of us here in America, but it does
Speaker 1: happen from time to time. But there's one of God,
Speaker 1: should we be showing this. It's Milania pushing the catering
Speaker 1: container off the cliff. She even has the inauguration hat
Speaker 1: and everything. Trump says, Natalie, is that you? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Am I allowed? Am I going to get in trouble?
Speaker 1: Am I going to get a knock on the door
Speaker 1: from US Secret Service? Is this like eighty six forty?
Speaker 2: So?
Speaker 1: Am I allowed to put this on? Oh? Boy. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but there's Milania pushing, pushing down. Maybe it
Speaker 1: was just an accident on her part that she's pushing
Speaker 1: the catering container towards a cliff. And then Trump asks
Speaker 1: if it's Natalie Harp, Oh my god, and does is
Speaker 1: Natalie Harp going to become the White House Press Secretary?
Speaker 1: I don't no, folks, ladies and gentlemen, I only ask
Speaker 1: the questions here. It's like Tucker Carlson, I'm only asking
Speaker 1: the questions. I'm only asking questions here. But if Natalie
Speaker 1: Hart becomes the White House Press secretary, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: I don't know, just from sheer entertainment value, speaking only
Speaker 1: to that, it might be fun for these next five
Speaker 1: or six months, because that's probably all she's going to last,
Speaker 1: is White House Press secretary. But she was the human print.
Speaker 1: They call her the human printer over at the White House,
Speaker 1: as opposed to Caroline Levitt, who is the human fertilizer
Speaker 1: spreading bullshit every day. And so we'll see if the
Speaker 1: human printer becomes the human fertilizer over at the White House.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I digress. Listen. I want to thank Joe
Speaker 1: Walsh for coming on the showday. We covered a lot
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