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We're gona continue York of Evolution by talking about some
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feedback about it recently, which is really cool. People an't
even encouraging us if we really want to see Universes Beyond,
oh no, to go into the three.
Speaker 2: Color oh no.
Speaker 1: And we know what that would allow us to do
is not talk about fucking new sets. Ooh, fine with that.
Speaker 2: I thought you were gonna say, drag this out as
long as possible so we don't have to come up
with any other good ideas.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, people seem to be liking this. And
to be fair, they did use an example of one
of the three color pairs just to show how much
Universes Beyond showed up. You know how many there were?
Speaker 2: How many?
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Speaker 1: Oh can I go?
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Speaker 1: Those guys are awesome. I want to go to Vagina.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, but then you gotta go to Vagina.
Speaker 1: Well, but I get to hang out with Keel and Peep,
Pete and Keel. I suppose I got a guy at work.
I keep wanting to call Pete and Keel because his
name is Teal, like the color. But like, huh, yeah,
that's not a name Pete and Keel, No, that's color.
I know. I know, I know, fucking stupid.
Speaker 2: His name is Teal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice guy knows lots of things. You show me
how to solder today? Oh yeah, hey, taught me how
to solder things. Very nice man. He's been very generous
with his knowledge and taught me how to do lots
of neat stuff, not just bike stuff, but life stuff like.
Speaker 2: Soldering, like soldering. Did he teach you how to play Celesnia? No?
Speaker 1: Fuck I could teach him how to play Celesnia because
I'm super good at it.
Speaker 2: Could you know?
Speaker 1: I had two Celesnia decks in the past. I had
Jasmine Boreal, Yeah, the Vanilla Guy in ninety nine Basics YEP,
with which I almost killed a person.
Speaker 2: Well you got second in that game, I sure did.
Speaker 1: And DRIs Da Wharton, which is possibly the least Celestia
Celesnia commander you can possibly play.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, okay, let's get into it. The arc of evolution.
We're doing Celesnia today. You can check out our backlog
over the last ten episodes to see the evolution of
commanders in every mono color YEP and each color pair
each guild as it were.
Speaker 1: The first five Buddy colors, including this episode.
Speaker 2: Including this episode. We're looking back to twenty nineteen, yes,
because that specifically is the year that Universes Beyond started,
You know, Universes Beyond the thing that ruined magic and
made it so everybody who comes in who has nothing
to do with magic is playing it and ruining the
game just by being here. And the commanders are so
pushed and powerful that they're going to drive out old cards.
The card pool is going to get so small and limited.
We're looking back at twenty nineteen before the ub apocalypse Healscape, yes,
and comparing it to the now correct twenty twenty six
year of Our Lord. What does it look like? How
many commanders from Universes Beyond are there? And is the
top ten from then and now that different?
Speaker 1: So far, I think we've been pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 2: We have been, and in ways that I was surprised
to be surprised in Surprise seption, as it were, we
aren't seeing a plethora of like new commanders come in. Yeah,
we've seen, of course some The most Universes Beyond we've
seen is three, correct, and that was in Monocolor. I
think in Blue, I believe so sure.
Speaker 1: I think Blue and Red were tied.
Speaker 2: We've seen you know, the yeah, the evolution. I'm using
the definition in the name or the name and the definition. Sure,
we've seen the evolution of color pairs where it's like, oh,
it used to be this, now it kind of looks
like this. We're seeing a healthy mix of things that
were then that are still now. Yeah, things that are
then and still now, and a couple universes beyonds here
and there. I think all of that is healthy and
demonstrates kind of a good obtuse swath of what it
kind of is like now, swath. Good word, Yeah, good word, swath.
You're gonna leave me hanging on obtus.
Speaker 1: Though, I think swath is better than obtus.
Speaker 2: What Oh yeah, what I combine? Non't no swab toose
swab twos. Yeah, I'm gonna swab too, Slater. If you
know what I'm saying, don't shout out to everybody at
dhrek dot com who sends us the stats and the cards,
and shout out to our good friend Matt Morgan, who's
big time, long time Celesnia player.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, what an idiot? Yeah, I mean thanks Matt, Yeah,
sh good on you. So I'm looking forward to talking
about a lot of token decks and a lot of
enchantress today. Oh well, that's what I'm looking forward to
tell you.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing how much your interpretation of
the symbol. Yes you're watching on YouTube, which you should be,
looks like a butthole. I'm gonna hit the button. Wait, fuck,
there it is SATs on the bag. Saffy Erk's daughter
is fucking number ten. Then this is a tree, yeah,
with a bleached asshole with some wrinkles or some hairs,
I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that does kind of look like that. Hey,
my ends still haven't gotten any better. I gotta learn
how to do a good end.
Speaker 2: I would argue again that it isn't just the ends
that haven't gotten better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm gonna leave that at the passive language.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna leave the pass of it's not just the
ends and kind of leave that open to interpretation.
Speaker 1: So number two, I do enjoy drawing the guild symbols
from memory though. It's kind of fun. Also, I'm using
a computer mouse and MS paint, so you know, I
do my best.
Speaker 2: You know, I do have like like a canvas subscription.
I could like let you use. No, we've gone too far.
Speaker 1: I'm perfectly happy with ms paint.
Speaker 2: We've gone to everybody. I've very much been enjoying number
ten of them. Ah, yes, I like saying that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, we have never seen that before.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a too too human scout for White
Green Sure Sosnia. If you will sacrifice Safie when target
creature is put into the g from the B, this
turn return that card to play.
Speaker 1: This is a combo command.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is a combo commander where, yeah,
you you get something into the graveyard, like when something dies,
you sacrifice Safie to bring it back, and when it
comes back, it also brings back Safie, so you can
loop them and then you take advantage of ETB or
dies triggers. Think of Karmack Guide and like Essence Warden
Soul Sisters, right.
Speaker 1: Essen Essence Warden, you have to exile it to get
the thing Essence Warten.
Speaker 2: What am I thinking of Karma Karmack Guide is the
Is that not what I said?
Speaker 1: Now? I'm thinking of a different card. I'm thinking of Karmack.
Speaker 2: When a ETBs you bring a card back to play
and it's Saffi Eric's daughter after you brought the the
Karma Guide back to play, and you of course skirt
around the echo costs of Karmack Guide. That's why you
do it, and you just gain infinite life. Or now
if you're playing like a US no Saltie, no, what
the fuck is?
Speaker 1: We're not playing Salta clans Celestian.
Speaker 2: I know. But when you add black to this, I
don't care abs and abs and when you play an
abs and deck, and this is in the ninety nine
because that's where kind of I think it exists. Now
you compare it with like drain effects or like blood
Artist or Zulaport cutthroat.
Speaker 1: It becomes a aristocrat. Boy, are we going to talk
about those next week? Oh yeah, it's soors off week. Baby.
Speaker 2: My favorite zov if you will, is it really? I
like Warsov Okay, I like that.
Speaker 1: I like I have a ratit Drabbic deck. I'll bet
you we see him.
Speaker 2: I got the Alendo one. We're gonna see Uncle Brando's
least favorite deck that I have. I think, YE hate
that deck.
Speaker 1: Ye hate that I'm playing. Also, if you remember, like
how the combo worked or what you did to actually
win the game and not just gain a bazillion life.
Put it in the comments because I forget it. I
don't that this is a and I know what it
does and how it works, but I forget what the
payoff was.
Speaker 2: And it's not just gain a million life yet.
Speaker 1: There has to be a I win somehow, and it
can't just be gained a million life and then kill
them with the space laser where they he.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, your other favorite thing? Okay, number nine got
a tea?
Speaker 1: Remember gaddict tea game you bleed? Yeah? Man, this is
a Stax commander.
Speaker 2: Check that creature type humor or kept can Advisor Advisor,
this is a two two for Celestie again. Yep, I
sense a trend give Advisor. Non creech spells with converted
man a costs four greater can't be played full stop,
full stop. I was going to say the same thing,
and I was also gonna say, fuck them, We've done
this before. Non creature spells with X can't be played.
Speaker 1: Because it might be more than four.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it ain't, fuck them, can't play them?
Speaker 1: Correct?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no X spell for you, no creature, No, no
non creature bigs for you. That's right, This is great
sideboard legacy against fucking insurrection, yeah or not insurrection, the
enchantment that you show and tell uh yeah, omniscients, yes, yep,
gatic teague. Man, I played this in my frickin' zoo deck.
I'm main bill. I main boarded this in Zoo for
a while. He's in due two for two come.
Speaker 1: On, yeah, and he works against most decks.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So is he a modern day commander.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't even know if he's
a good He might be in the ninety nine ers
some decks, but I don't see Gadack teage very often.
Speaker 2: I don't either. But can you imagine getting somebody puts
a Gadack teague down turned two and you kept a
hand because it's got like the best four drop in
your deck, and you're like.
Speaker 1: Ah, ford fucking damn it, and what are you gonna do?
Killed it for two and then they play it again
before you get around to play in your play again.
Oh my god.
Speaker 2: If they went before you and they got format of
before you do, because they're playing green, they got four
man on turn three. They've played this thing on turn
one and three. Yeah, you've killed it twice and it's
still on the back.
Speaker 1: You still can't play your fucking four drop. Oh man.
Speaker 2: We are very swiftly demonstrating how and why this card is.
Speaker 1: Good, yes, good and bad because some people get pretty
upset when they see a gaddicty Yeah, for good reason,
because it's a stack deck.
Speaker 2: It kind of what it is. It kind of feels
like grand arbiter, grand arborter light if you will, right,
because it's stopping you from doing something, or at least
slowing you down because you've got to go through him first.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you can still play all your dudes and stuff.
So like last week's gruel doesn't give a shit, but
gadaic Tye will slow down the average deck quite a bit.
Speaker 2: And also make you bleed if you if you google
the that episode of Commander Cookout. Yes, man, I wonder
what episode that was. I don't even know somebody.
Speaker 1: If Gary was here, we could probably do it. But
the producer Gary is sick this week, So get well Gary,
Get well Gary. We're gonna call him now gubg. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Number eight yes, oh.
Speaker 1: Maara's Soul of the Accord.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Another to two for two to two for two
with a date stamp, which is something that we've been noting.
Yes elf cleric, the two being white green. Whenever Amara
soul of the accord becomes tapped, like every turnament you
attack with her create a one one white soldier boy
creature talking with Lifelink. Oh, I don't hate that.
Speaker 1: I don't hate that. I thought that this would do
more shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really, this doesn't seem not good. This seems like
a card I would put in my ninety nine that
wouldn't be legendary these days.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's certainly a like a okay card, But I
don't really talk like top ten.
Speaker 2: This was before elves went green black. This has got
to be the answer.
Speaker 1: But like Ris was a thing, Reese or Ris or
what the shit?
Speaker 2: Geez oh, sorry, get your life together.
Speaker 1: That's my alarm that doesn't get muted because it tells
me that I have to sign out of work.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: While you're here, I have several twenty two hour shifts
because I forget to sign out of them.
Speaker 2: Here you get that money, that's right, It's like fucking yeah,
ten hours over that's a lot of overtime.
Speaker 1: Baby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just what elf decks used to be.
Now they're green black.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this makes an elf token what it attacks or
if you give it a man of ability, you tap
it for manna to make a guide. Then you untap
it somehow and you tap it.
Speaker 2: Oh that's really good that you make infinite guys just
by tapping on tapping this. Yeah, yeah, uh that's probably
what you do. Yeah, you put a you put the
the old umbro mantle or fucking whatever on it that
gives it the untap ability and the tap ability. Yeah, well,
good on you. Combo Celesnia. What's number seven? A rob
roar the while I'm gonna roar this beer down my throat.
Speaker 1: This actually does the ship. You're taking my favorite beer'
leaving me with the Scotch here. I grab that one
because I thought you would like it. Okay, do you
like it? Good?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well fuck better better drink that, then better buy
it better but fucking drinking that same, better drink that
so I know that you're not just pulling my leg.
Speaker 1: Arable roar of the wild. I think we we've spoken
very very highly of this card in the past. It's
the cat that's the cat. It's the the card that
kind of legitimized the cat deck where people wanted to play.
I want to play cats or dogs or whatever. They
finally gave you the cat deck. Yeah, and it came
equipped with a bunch of really good tools.
Speaker 2: For cats Commander twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: And ever since then they've been pritten a couple of
you know, just serviceable cats throwing every set that they've
kind of done. Yeah, and it's a real ast deck.
Now I want advisors to get that treatment. They kind
of do. Some advisors out of nowhere. Arable Roar of
the Wild is our first not to to two for
two is instead a five five for five with an eminence.
We haven't seen eminence on anything yet in what one
hundred in ninety commanders, more than ninety commanders in one
hundred and eighty commanders, we haven't seen an eminence ability yet.
Speaker 2: An eminence the first one does. Those are grown under
the sea and emonies. Yes, sinces.
Speaker 1: At the beginning of combat on your turn, if Arable
Roar of the wilds is in the command zone or
in play, another target cat you control gets plus three
plus three until end of turn. That's pretty okay. And
it also says whenever another cat you control, the tax
you can pay Celestia and one if you do it,
gainst trample and gets plus x plus x until end
of turn or x is its power. Oh, that does
the gruel thing. It does the grul thing.
Speaker 2: It does the gruel thing. Yeah, you pay three and
you're giving it plus six plus six because it's gonna
get something's gonna get plus three and then something's gonna
get plus three again. Yes, plus whatever. Its power was
like this, this guy slaps And the only reason I
think this guy might have fallen out of favor is
we've gotten so many cats in Celestia, and I think
in the synergy age of Commander that we're in, go
wide is better than Go tall.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that.
Speaker 2: The downward pressure that that CEDH puts on the format
to play more removal play, more interaction, and having removal
and interaction be an accepted part of casual and and
high power casual play. Yeah, all of those single target
interactions make GO tall not as good, and that's why
synergy is better right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 2: I don't like that trend, but that is where we are.
Speaker 1: It's not my favorite thing, but it is where we
have ended up. Yet. That's true, and with the with
the infect cat, you can to punch people with this
guy without even playing them. Hell yeah brother, yes yeah. Also,
if you're going go wide in Celestia, it's a very
good color combination to do. It says virtually all of
the save all your creatures from a Wrath of God
effect in it. I think they're all in.
Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna see if we see any cards that
go wide in the probably in the now category. Yeah,
this is seven. We're gonna go to six. Yes, that's
just sexy six.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, there's that's the other commander for the same tack.
Speaker 2: Meri weather Light Duelist. I actually like this card.
Speaker 1: I played it in my Drizz deck.
Speaker 2: This is a three to two cat warrior for Selesnian
one first strike. When Mary attacks, each opponent can't block
with more than one creature this turn six, So when
she attacks, people can only block with one.
Speaker 1: Technically, this combat like, I don't think that comes into
play really in Celestia, but like, if you were taking
extra combat steps, they they only can't block for one.
Speaker 2: Of them unless she attacks every combat unless she attacks again.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Also, as long as Miri weather Light Duelist is tapped,
no more than one creature can attack you each combat. Oh,
that one's better, I guess, but that one's better.
Speaker 1: Remember when we talked about like using cryptolith right to
give your creatures a man of ability, So she becomes
a three drop manner rock that you tap to crawl space,
make it so people can't attack you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 2: This is good. And probably in a cat deck that
this is probably helming. Probably you're attacking with her and
your goal wide cat strategy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kategy, if you will, I will, yep, I will, and.
Speaker 2: You can attack with relative impunity. You certainly don't have vigilance,
but it feels like you have vigilance because only one
guy can attack you, so you're kind of safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And in the synergy era of Commander, when people
are attacking you with a bunch of shit, we're doing
a bunch you know what I mean, Attacking with one
creature isn't as scary as back when this would have
been on the list, where holy fuck, you're attacking me
with a seventy seventy.
Speaker 2: Yeah you're one, you're one guy. You're attacking me with
his like a twelve twelve of trample. Yeah, those don't
just fall out of the sky and hit you anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean they they did last week, but
not not generally. Yeah, yeah, it's fine. You know what
happened last week or last night? And e H and
M really a quick magic story. So I'm playing against
a guy I never played before, and he was trying
so hard to win the last couple of the games,
like and this isn't an indictment of him, but like
it was very much like he wasn't telling us what
the deck did, even though we knew. I was playing
with j f U. J's our buddy, and like, yeahzy
though he is, Okay, he sells me bird seed at
a discount, so so I can feed the chickenies around
my house. Okay, so he's our buddy. You're a crazy
bird lady, Yeah I guess. So yeah, okay, I kind
of am. And he's doing the thing, doing the thing,
and I'm playing to Ralph because I've got a new
card for it or whatever. Jay's got like twenty two
to two two's so the game's over already, yeah, but
I'm like, yeah, I got this. I don't I want
to want to end the game. Let's just let's play
let's do extra damage to twenty two guys. This guy,
this guy doesn't know what's happening, and he's like, oh
and he does the cobb b swewing for twenty two
was not his commander, okay, and I and this is true.
Was it more than twenty two? So I was like, cool,
and he hits me for twenty.
Speaker 2: Cool no blocks. That's my favorite playing commander.
Speaker 1: And I go down to like three and then I
I blastom a sacked and all that jay shit. On
the next turn, I was I was sitting out like
the whole game. I was like, well, fuck this and
I just just killed a ball, killed everybody. As soon
as I put the card down on the table, He's like,
got fuck and he just scoops his cards up and
then I explained it to Buddy and he was like,
oh shit, and then he tried even harder to win
the next game.
Speaker 2: My my two favorite plays and commander were summed up
in that story. Cool no blocks and the other one. Wow, fuck,
my two favorite plays.
Speaker 1: That's mir everybody, We're going to number five.
Speaker 2: Yes, we're fine through these touls. Your friend of wolves?
Speaker 1: IHI? What is this?
Speaker 2: This was a very popular one from War of the Spark.
This is a three three for white green green two
elf scout. When tolsm Friend of Wolves enters a battlefield,
create Voja Friend of Elves a legendary three three green
white wolf creature token. Whatever a wolf enters the battlef
under your control, you gain three, and that creature fights.
Speaker 1: Up to something one creature you don't get sure. So,
really this is in the what this is a no
fucking way this is in the top ten. Really, Yeah,
the Wolf deck.
Speaker 2: This is the one where you like change a creature
type so it doesn't say elf and it says wolf.
Speaker 1: So whenever a Elf comes into play, you get something.
Speaker 2: You get an Elf. He comes into play and you.
Speaker 1: Fight, Like, what the hell is this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a surprising.
Speaker 1: I am if you played this deck, if you saw
this deck in your local meta, like, let us know,
because i I'm calling horseshit. I'm saying I'm saying it.
This is bullshit. There's no way nobody's ever built this
deck ever.
Speaker 2: I've got two things things. One, I have never played
against this deck.
Speaker 1: I've never played against this fucking card.
Speaker 2: I've Yeah, that's what I mean. That's what I mean. Like,
I've never seen this card play. I've never played against
this deck, so it's surprising. But it does this and
this is still my first thing. It does say a
bunch of words that people like. It says elf, it
says wolf, it says fight. Okay, okay that you could
see that. Okay, fine, did a Amy play this? I
think she did?
Speaker 1: No, she just put Voja.
Speaker 2: Is that what it was?
Speaker 1: Because Voja is a fucking house.
Speaker 2: I think you're right.
Speaker 1: That deck's crazy.
Speaker 2: I think you're right.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I'll bet you don't even play this in Voja.
Speaker 2: Well no, because J's montal Green, isn't.
Speaker 1: He is Naya?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah that Voga New Voja. Yeah yeah that card
fuck that card, will fuck that card, will fuck you up?
Yeah that card.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: People talking about that card getting banned.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Second thing, second thing, Second thing, okay, third thing Okay,
Also same thing, except shout out to Ryan Pancoast, the
artist of this card. He has that high Renaissance style,
that that sweeping epic even though you only see two
or three characters in the picture, that looks like an epic,
that looks like it should be hanging in the louver.
Speaker 1: What are those guys called the eternal, the eternals and
stuff that is pretty.
Speaker 2: It's got kind of that soft look to it that
is reminiscent of those huge, huge oil Renaissance paintings that
take like ten years for guys to paint. And he
puts those on magic cards and I will attest like
I have in the past. We are so lucky to
play a game where we have artists like Ryan Pancos
just be commonplace and it's like, oh, yeah, he just
painted that. It's like part of our game.
Speaker 1: That's what he does.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like what he does.
Speaker 1: This is a thing that we have and it's not
a shitty card that nobody cares about.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you think he's.
Speaker 1: Gonna be in the top ten or now? Not a chance,
No chance in hell any of the guys we've seen
so far going to be in the top ten of
now do you think?
Speaker 2: Oh I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't even think of the things.
Speaker 2: So Lesnie be our biggest, our biggest flip flop so far.
Speaker 1: I bet it is.
Speaker 2: Okay, Number Fourtigue.
Speaker 1: Is the only one I can kind of see.
Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
Speaker 1: That's a huge stretch. I would hurt myself doing that. Stretch.
Oh man, not just because I'm old turned dust.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there least the redeemed. Here we go a one
one for Celesnia hybrid elf Warrior Celesnia hybrid two tap,
put a green white one one elf Warrior Creach token
cool also Celesnia Celesnia four tap. Each Creach token you control,
put a copy of it into play. It's a token doubler. Yeah,
this guy fucking.
Speaker 1: Slaps this guy's wild Yeah guy commander for one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one drop commanders. We could do a whole We
could do a top ten of best one drop commanders.
Well fuck, that's good.
Speaker 1: Maybe instead of doing the the three like the three colors,
just do best one drops. We could do like one, two, three, five.
Speaker 2: That would yes, yes, oh my god, best one drop
commander's best two drop commander, like and like, no content
creators ever done that before. But come on, fuck this
sal version that maybe they haven't dude, it's the Internet.
It's rule thirty four of magic content. He even exists,
the dirty version of some other fucking person who hasn't
us did it already.
Speaker 1: But nobody's dirty than us, You might be right, that's
why they're like, Yeah, you guys can't be a thing because.
Speaker 2: Hey, shout out to redneck MTG on on like on
Instagram and TikTok and ship motherfucker shows up Zinny pouches in,
cracks his cores light and fucking smoking his marble Marlboro
reds and just plays Commander Da. He's fucking shutting the
door on his wife who's like complaining to him when
he's sorting magic cards and he cracks a beer. Shout
out to that guy, fucking tag him, tag him, let
him know that I like him. I see him. Fuck yeah,
he's got a mustache and everything. Gross fucking probably watches Nascar.
In fact, I know he does because he did a
TikTok on it. Gross MTG and Nascar. Baby.
Speaker 1: I watched some of the fucking World Cup today at work.
Speaker 2: Oh gross, Yes, what are you Spanish? What are you from?
Speaker 1: What are your Portuguese? It was Canada versus A. Somebody
explained to me what country it was, but it was
like I had never I knew the first word that
he said, but then like the word kept going and
then I lost what the country was. So whoever played
Canada and the World Cup on June twelfth, twelfth, I
don't know what the country was, but like, I watched
a bunch of people take soccer dives like they make
fun of them, for yes, And I watched a guy
get like a major penalty because some dude across the
field from him fell down and grabbed his ankle like
a fucking wiener.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love grabbing ankles like their wiener.
Speaker 1: I don't understand soccer at al Ris the Redeemed. He's
probably gone now, but rip elves elves gone but not forgotten.
Speaker 2: To top three, I think.
Speaker 1: Tristani, I remember Tristan.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is a two to five dryad for green, green, white, white.
Whenever another creature enters a battlefield under your control, you
gain life equal to its toughness. Also populate. That's why
this is a commander. Yeah, you can go green white,
one tap populate. Put a token onto the benefit of
this copy of another token you control.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Celesnia tokens, need I say more?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Also Celesnia life gain, Need I say more?
Speaker 2: In the color combination that has all of the soul sisters,
yeah and brothers, Yes, the soul siblings.
Speaker 1: If you sold sobros, I think.
Speaker 2: I don't know the sol siblings, soul siblings. I like
that that works. That's pretty math tracks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if there's like we we don't
even really need to say what that does. You make
creature tokens, then you make more of them, and you
gain a bunch of life like that's.
Speaker 2: I will say this though. Everybody thinks that tokens are
soldiers and elves and three three beasts? No, what about
the five to five worms? What about the eight eighths?
And what about the ten ten el Drasi's like, what
about the what about the ten ten el drawsi? It
enters the battlefield with a ten ten token?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What about that guy Desolation Win? Yeah, that's it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Or the the fucking that guy for the xx
Ferrexian horrors all.
Speaker 2: From Ferrexian processor. Fuck? Yeah. What's the most you've ever
I know I've asked you this before. What's the most
you've ever played into a process?
Speaker 1: It's twenty one. I think it's a huge number.
Speaker 2: I think the most I've put into a Ferrexian processor
it was either twenty two or thirty nine.
Speaker 1: It was enough for me not to die on the
crack back, just in case I didn't kill everybody.
Speaker 2: It was in a game with f U Jesse. Yeah,
so I think I think that my biggest number, it's
either twenty two or thirty nine.
Speaker 1: I'd go down.
Speaker 2: Jesse can confirm these days.
Speaker 1: I would go down to four these days so that
they can't bolt me.
Speaker 2: Well, let's see if TRISTAWNI is in the top ten
of now, then we'll talk about that. I would be processor.
Speaker 1: I'd be genuinely curious because you Ferrexcian process or make
one guy get all your life back, and you've got
a giant giant then you populated and get double your
life back. Whatever.
Speaker 2: Another creature answers about a fit you can, oh, fuck,
this is great with frection process.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's perfect with Forrexian processor. That this is where
you pay thirty nine into your your processor, because like,
holy fuck.
Speaker 2: Okay, well I guess let us know in the comments,
what's the most you ever played into a Ferreccian processor.
Speaker 1: Because it could be more in this deck because you're
gaining life before you get to the point where you
can go process or activate process. You might get fifty Yeah,
you can put forty nine into it. Yeah, which is
and this is true enough.
Speaker 2: Usually there it is okay, number two, number two, number two,
number deuce all charametric, God of the harvest, you have
six seven God indestructible for Selesnia three, devotion to green
and white seven or else. It's not a creat it's
just an enchantment. And whenever you cast a creature spell,
you may search your library for a forester planes. Put
it onto the b tapped. It's not into your hand,
it's onto the battlefield tapped. And you can search for
dual lens. You could search for shock lands because it
says forest.
Speaker 1: Or planes and stay basing anywhere on it.
Speaker 2: This ain't no basic bitch, No, no, that's this is
this is eternal ramp that's indestructible in your command zone. Yeah,
this is because five.
Speaker 1: Do you indeed? Ramp at five? Does green care exactly? Does? Like?
Do you need more? I don't know that. Do you
need more?
Speaker 2: We have created a podcast that's gone on for five
hundred and forty five episodes on two premises.
Speaker 1: Okay more, yeah and both, and the answer is yes, Yeah,
you're right, fair point, fair point. Well said, Well said
that was actually very poetic. We should we should make
a shirt out of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah? Are you yeah? Are you? I was thinking about
getting shirts made at work two feet in a heartbeat,
Fuck you're hired, Jesus, what then have two feet as
long as they got clearance to work?
Speaker 1: You know the Texas Tornado? Carry on? Eric? Does that?
You know that wrestler? Do you know? He was a
very very popular professional wrestlers in the WWF for a
couple of years. He went through like the latter half
of his very successful wrestling career with one foot. He
had one foot and he would just like stick to
prosthetic in his boot or whatever and wrestling his dad,
who was like a famous promoter and stuff. He he
made him not tell anybody, like nobody knew, Like nobody
fucking knew that he only had one foot for years
and years. Uh, carry on, Eric, Eric, there's.
Speaker 2: An Ry and Eric. Oh so I can't say, like
one foot Freddy, Like there's no carry one foot carry He.
Speaker 1: Comes to a very famous wrestling background. There's a new
Netflix documentary about the family. Actually that's not I knew
that from before, but like you could learn all about
it on the show. Huh yeah, okay, all the brothers.
I'm not going to get too far into it because
like that story definitely ends tragically. Oh yeah, if you
can imagine, you know, having a dad that made you
hide your fucking amputated foot so that you wouldn't lose
your job.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do a recap.
Speaker 1: Let's do it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Number ten Saffie, Eric's daughter, Yeah, number eight, nine
Gotactigue boom, number eight, Mara soul of Accord, number seven
a rabble arable, Yeah, number six, Marie, Yeah, number five,
Calmer Sure number four, ree number three for Strawnie. Yeah,
number two care Metro boom. We're gonna say, ah.
Speaker 1: Fuck, I'll bet you we are.
Speaker 2: Who is it?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I honestly have no idea. I haven't
seen an enchantress one yet, so like maybe an enchantress
commander I don't know number one, Okay, fuck God fucking damn.
Speaker 2: Wondering when she'd show up, Goddamn Captain Sissey A two
to two for Lesnia and two summon Legend from Invasion,
my favorite set of all time. Search your library for
a legend or legendary card. Holy fuck hoh that card
gets better over time.
Speaker 1: Yes, it does.
Speaker 2: Reveal that card. Put it into your hand, then shuff.
Speaker 1: Jesus, why did we not think of this.
Speaker 2: This card just good. Yeah, this card probably doesn't see
as much play as five colors to say, now correct,
but this card good, very good. I'd put this card
in the ninety nine of my Celesnia deck.
Speaker 1: If there was a crazy art version of this, I
would put this in the ninety nine of my Attracts deck.
Speaker 2: There is a from the Vault Legends or Heroes or
whatever it was with that with the crown symbol.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's not like wild I know.
Speaker 2: But it's called fancy foiling, no borders, fancy foiling before
they curled. That's the tits.
Speaker 1: I actually have one of those.
Speaker 2: I think I do too, because because the Invasion one
way too many money, correct, way too many money. Yes,
if if I was going to save five percent on it,
I might go to Fusion Gaming Online dot com.
Speaker 1: I might too.
Speaker 2: There's the graphic you see if you're watching on.
Speaker 3: YouTube, which you should be CCO Asian promo code gonna
save you five percent on your foil from Invasion Captain Sisse,
which is probably like.
Speaker 2: Double digits of savings.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, it is, for sure it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that card very expensive, that's very lost.
Speaker 1: So we didn't see a single enchantrous commander in the
top ten of them. That actually shocks me, and only like,
how many token commanders do we see? Three mm? Dang
uh yeah, I am, I am. I'm mildly flabbergasted. I
did not expect that. Well, I did not expect that.
Speaker 2: Let's keeep the now, let's go to the reverse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bachy, I invert the colors. So now it's a
stinky butthole.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because it's got the green cloud. Yes, with
the green stink lines coming out bleached but not clean?
Speaker 1: Also correct?
Speaker 2: Okay, yes, with green wrinkles disgusting.
Speaker 1: Let's just do it.
Speaker 2: Let's see what's number ten going here? Bro Jasmine Boreal
not the vanilla one?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's not the vanilla.
Speaker 2: Yes, you've played this character sort of. Jasmine Boreal of
the seven is a two to four human druid for
Celesnia one tap ad green white. I don't hate that. Okay,
spend this man only to cast creature spells with no abilities.
Speaker 1: I do hate that.
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, this is this is morigander petroglyphs Jasmine Boreal
dot deck. Yes, tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I can't creatures you control with no abilities.
Speaker 2: Can't be blocked by creatures with abilities, so like fucking
all of them?
Speaker 1: Is this a meme? Is our first meme deck in
the top ten? Just vanilla creatures the deck?
Speaker 2: God, I love a meme deck.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna say it. I'm taking my flight.
Speaker 2: Tokens.
Speaker 1: I know, but this is still the most surprising thing
on one of our lists.
Speaker 2: Not a chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, creatures with no abilities the deck, like, just as
a fucking thing that exists in the top ten of
anything wants to play that deck. Nobody wants to play that.
I like that shock me moral But you can.
Speaker 2: Shock my nipples with a car battery Yeah, yeah, those
little clamps.
Speaker 1: I would almost try that if, like the jumper cables
aren't so scary they're like alligators.
Speaker 2: Probably just well, you just use small ones chomp.
Speaker 1: Your nipple off. I'm gonna tell tell you a quick
story about my work and you're gonna laugh. Also as
everybody else not where.
Speaker 2: I thought you're going with that. So do you put
nipple clamp battery things on your nipples and then somebody
pedals and make makes electricity like on the on the
outtakes for Kung Poun enter the fist, shout out.
Speaker 1: If it does involve electricity and a bike and nipples,
No nipples. So guy comes in today and he says, hey,
fire shot out of my bike. And I says, that's.
Speaker 2: Not supposed to happen, like out the back like a rocket.
Speaker 1: Oh wait for it? Okay, okay, Well where did it
come from? From the keyhole? And I go who that
that's really not supposed to happen, like fire out of
the bike is one thing, but fire out of the
out of the key hole? What? So he brings in
and he shows me his key and like the end
of the keys all melted, burned up and.
Speaker 2: Ship fire out of the keyhole. That's like Uncle Brando
after about a tackle bell.
Speaker 1: You're damn right it is. And he pulls the bike
in and I'm like, man, this this is crazy. This
is wild. And I'm like, okay, so go over this.
How did it happen? He's, well, the fire came out
of the keyhole right here, and as he points, the
part of the bike that he's pointing at is a
like a little rubber seal with a little like hatch over.
Speaker 2: It was that the key hole.
Speaker 1: That I recognize right away. As the battery charging port. Oh,
and I think to myself, Oh, no, that's not a
key hole. That's not a key hole.
Speaker 2: Well, everything's a key hole if you're horning this.
Speaker 1: And then and then as he's talking, and I was like, yeah,
so like it was a little like it was hard
to get the key in, but eventually I just like
I got it in there and I turned it, and
then the fire just started shooting out. And in my head,
I'm thinking, you just put a metal key into a
fucking socket.
Speaker 2: Who has to tell him? I do?
Speaker 1: I have to call him next week and find a
way of calling him an idiot without calling him an idiot.
Speaker 2: Oh, hey, I have a whole book on that, really.
Speaker 1: Fuck yeah. Is it a literal book?
Speaker 2: No, it's all up in here, but one day it
will be a book.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay on how to not tell people that.
I don't want to say anybody's fucking dumb, but like,
oh no, there's a keyhole right on the others, like,
there's a keyhole right there.
Speaker 2: Rebecca calls me the most polite asshole she's ever met. Oh,
I can teach you a thing or two.
Speaker 1: Oh I am not polite. I am very I'm just funny.
Speaker 2: No, I'll teach you how to be polite while being
an asshole. Or I'll teach you how to not be
an asshole and be polite but have the asshole undertones
that everybody around you except for the person you're talking to,
can see. That's the best. Yeah, everybody sees that you're
being an asshole to somebody, but you're doing it in
a polite way, so they don't know.
Speaker 1: I kind of try not to be an asshole to people.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you got to cut that shit out. That's
not twenty twenty six fucking brown.
Speaker 1: And I work in retail.
Speaker 3: FU.
Speaker 2: You know what I have to do. Tell me, I
have to get I have to get the cards back
on the screen because well, unbeknownst to fucking us everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we had a technical technical mishap mishaps and I
don't know where we are, but we have to go
back to there.
Speaker 2: It is Jasmine Boreal. Here we go. Nobody saw nothing.
Speaker 1: Will we finished Jasmine Borial?
Speaker 2: I assume that we did, but the technical mishap made
it so we totally don't know that. The Next one is.
Speaker 1: Cara Metra Falling from Grace.
Speaker 2: Yeah, from two.
Speaker 1: To nine to nine not our furthest fall, but nope,
pretty far. And this, yeah, I'm going to stand by
what I said before where I say I think this
is kind of a waste of the command zone where
it's just kind of a ramp spell at five that
needs extra steps, and I don't think that Green specifically
needs that.
Speaker 2: I will say, just add black. I don't remember if
we talked about that before or after the computer crashed.
Speaker 1: Absen. Yeah we did. We talked about how he's here's
what we think thought and still think because it's probably
right in the comments if you don't think it's right.
Celestnia is the color pairing yep, so far that it
has had its lunch eaten the hardest by three color
pairs that include it, because Absen is just better than it.
Speaker 2: Better than Celestia does better plus ones, better car draw,
better tokens, better life gain.
Speaker 1: For the record, Absen probably the most boring three color
let's be honest.
Speaker 2: So what does that say about Celestia.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of good shit. And then like we
added blue, like it. If you added color to Celestia,
that is almost universally better than just playing Celestia and
you don't see that in the other color pairs that
we've talked about so far. Dang, so dang. Here we
are with Krametra still in the top ten. I don't
even understand it. I really don't, because maybe it's a
landfall thing.
Speaker 2: Maybe whenever you cast a creature spell, search your library
for a planes or thing, put it onto the battlefield.
Maybe that's what Reacher get all land out of your deck.
Speaker 1: I guess, okay, I'll take sure. Why not he looks Pinnacle.
Speaker 2: No, cast your landa or elf, get another land now,
I got.
Speaker 1: The lens tap though.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but next turns Spinnacle. Don't care.
Speaker 1: He looks Pinnacle cares number eight, number.
Speaker 2: Eight cigard a font of blessing. Okay, so this is okay,
five color mono white angel airon plays this among other
angels and or humans and or Celesnia. Bullshit, Yes, this
is Celesnia and two for an angel, four four for
four flying other perms you control have hex Yes, that is,
look at the top card of your library anytime you
may cast angels in human umans from the top of
your library. That card good.
Speaker 1: That's lots of just really solidly good lines of text
on a map.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a four four for four flyer in your
command zone, which is a perfectly serviceable creature.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 2: Yes, also value and other permanents you control can has
hex proof.
Speaker 1: Yes, so you can cut all of the all of
my guys have hexproof shit out of your deck to
put in more angels on humans.
Speaker 2: Yes, because all of my angels and humans are just
in my hand now as long as they're consecutively on
top of my library.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Does that always happen?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: But like it's a good card.
Speaker 2: This card's good. And you know what the showcase treatment
that you have from whatever set that is, is that
something exelon But I know that it's not.
Speaker 1: No, it's the set that everybody hated and then they
in a straw aftermath aftermath. I think.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I like that border and I
like the art on this card.
Speaker 1: Very cool.
Speaker 2: I think she has unrealistic anatomical proportions.
Speaker 1: Though she looks kind of like a bug, like a
bug person.
Speaker 2: Oh what I was gonna.
Speaker 1: Say, That's what I think. I don't know. It was
just huge boobs, like these long, skinny legs, like her
thighs are way too long for the shins.
Speaker 2: I suppose that that people are unmasks like all of
those things, but that's what I'm calling unrealistic.
Speaker 1: Yes, you would never see a real human that looks
like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, also she has wings like no humans have wings.
She is an angel.
Speaker 1: We don't know that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to the next card. This would be
number seven.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Feel the bounty is done. Bounty is done.
Speaker 2: I was gonna call them the bountless down, which is
definitely different than bounteous.
Speaker 1: That's the opposite. Okay, to to unicorn for Celesnia and
two with life dink, which is also the shape of
his horn on his head.
Speaker 2: At the behead. Yeah yeah, at the beginning of each
end step, if you gained life, this turn distribute up
to that many plus one counters among any number of
other target creatures. Okay, let's talk about this for a minute. Okay,
and I have a feeling we're gonna talk about this
a few more times. Okay, let's talk about boxes that
commanders check. Okay, all right, this guy's a unicorn.
Speaker 1: That's a box that's Some people like unicorns. Yep, this
is my unicorn.
Speaker 2: He's got life link that's fine, sure, Yeah, if you
gained life this turn check.
Speaker 1: Life gain is another box to check.
Speaker 2: Distribute that many plus one counters? Check. Also a check
creatures you control. Check.
Speaker 1: It doesn't say creatures you control. It does just creature creatures.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm gonna control them.
Speaker 1: What if you're playing Absen and you had a Herovian play, Yes,
there's Absen, just demolishing frickin' Selet's see again.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna gain life, I'm going to distribute plus ones,
and I'm going to have tokens. So if I have
ten guys and gained eight life, eight of them are
gonna get counters.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also I'm gonna add another box there.
Speaker 2: Okay, group hug. If I gained ten life and only
had eight guys, what have you done for me lately?
You're gonna get two plus ones.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that later again only most likely. Fuck.
Speaker 2: So this guy checks a lot of boxes. He's the
horse thing, He's the unicorn thing, He's the He's the
guy on Facebook who says, what are all the best
unicorn cards? Because my girlfriend started playing magic and I
want to make her a unicorn deck.
Speaker 1: Because she's my unicorn. Oh can you imagine if your
wiener had a horn growing out.
Speaker 2: Of it, unihorn, wouldn't it be a wouldn't it be
a byhorn? Then if it was your horn horn.
Speaker 1: Well you're not a unicorn. You have to have in
order to have a unicorn, you have to have a
horn where a horn should be and only have one
of them.
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I mean. You'd be a you'd be
a by horn. Yes, your hornered have a horn. I
have a horn where my horn should be, but I
only have one, So technically I am a unicorn.
Speaker 1: Well, technically having a horn on your horn, it's still
only having one horn. It's just a deformed horn. Deformer corn,
deformer corn.
Speaker 2: We did it.
Speaker 1: It's the next one, Ryan, Jesus.
Speaker 2: What if they're not growing parallel to each other. What
if it's double deformed horn? Horn, double deformed hornicorn, a
double deformer corn. Because my horn is growing perpendicular to
my horn?
Speaker 1: Nobody wants that.
Speaker 2: Nobody wants that. Well, no, that's true. Number seven, sure six.
Speaker 1: It could be who knows not us? God, God, damn it, God,
damnd fuck ass. Okay, so Thomas plays this, Yeah, it's
his group hug deck. But the secrets fuck it out
because group hug doesn't exist. It's not real. And when
people say this small group hug deck, kill them first
every time.
Speaker 2: Let's I'll give it a read.
Speaker 1: Tell them that you know that you know and they
don't know that you know, but they will know after
you tell them that you know them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, make them know exactly. Communication is key. Okay. So
this is a zero five jellyfish for Celesnian one with
flying for some reason, he's not swimming, he's flying. At
the beginning of your end step, choose a player put
two plus one counters on a creature they control. Second
player draws a card, third player two treasures. Ooh, so
again we're talking about boxes plus one cools, card, draw box, treasure, tokens,
box most notably, jellyfish, no box, most noticeable or notable tokens, ah,
group hug notable. This is a D and D commander
for purposes of this arc and this conversation. We're not
counting this as universes beyond, but it does check that
box too, in that it is a D and D
thing and a notable one. Right. Glunch is like famous
or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Glunch is a real character. If you actually, if
you play dumb uh never Winter the MMO, that's that's
free to playing kind of fun. Okay, you run into
Glunch in a Verness, which is where you meet the
red Lady that gives you extra combat steps. Yeah, it's
a whole it's the whole thing. I'm sure he probably
shows up in Boulder's Gate three as well. That's one
of the big popular games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one game in the year like two years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Like, I'm sure that he makes an appearance.
So he's he's he's a cool little guy.
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I appreciate it. I like the
the zero five flyer for three. Like that that sounds celesniish, celesnish,
celesnia ish yep, celesnish. I like that better believe. What
I don't like or appreciate is the play pattern that
it's like, what have you like? I said it again,
what have you done for me lately? And oh you
get it? Do you get a guy or are you
gonna the command's own deal that they always make don't
attack me for two turns you can draw card and
the play pattern takes a long time unless the Glunch
players like hmm that guy's winning. I'm gonna distribute the
benefit amongst the players that aren't that guy and just
have a plan.
Speaker 1: Right in, like the least optimal way for that one guy. Yeah,
like you would use. Usually the glunch player draws a
card the creature that the guy that has like the
shitty little one one or the zero one usually gets
the counters and then he's manuscrewed. I'm gonna give you.
I'll give it to them. Usually the manuscrewed guy gets
the treasure tokens, or the guy that's so fucking far
ahead on man the treasure tokens don't matter gets the treasure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So like it's fully possible to just not hug anybody
with this deck.
Speaker 2: Oh you don't say.
Speaker 1: It's almost like Group Hug is a man. Whoa what? Yeah,
I'm gonna keep going back to that man like Group
Hug doesn't exist. Don't let anybody fool you otherwise. Oh,
I don't care how Matt Morgan they are. Yeah, got him.
Speaker 2: Got him? No, Matt Morgan. He didn't play Group Hug.
He plays Elevier. This is number five. Yeah, we're gonna
do a recap anyways. Okay, So Elevier four four for
Celestia two, so four for for four Human Knight. When
Elevier of the Wild Court enters the battlefield or attacks,
create a virtuous role. The what the hell is it
even another target creature you control? Okay, so you make
this some some kind enchantment. Brando's gonna look it up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at what a virtuous role is.
Speaker 2: Whenever an enchanted creature you control deals combat damage two
player draw card. There it is. So this is pseudo enchantress. Yes,
pseudo enchantress.
Speaker 1: It's kind of go wide enchantress. What it encourages you
to do the Celestia thing and make tokens, then enchant them,
then make them all have a fid in, and then
you play a bunch of the really good enchantments as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, so this doesn't Whenever enchanted creature you control deals
combat damage to a player draw cards. So, holy shit,
if I have five enchantments on one guy, I draw
one card, so I would want one enchantment on five guys.
Speaker 1: A virtuous roll token is a colorless or a role
enchantment token. Okay, It enchants a creature, grants plus one
plus one for each enchantment you control.
Speaker 2: Oh that got good, old, So it's.
Speaker 1: All that glitters every turn, you put in all that
glitters on a creature.
Speaker 2: Whenever enters or attacks. Okay, and you probably start with
her so she doesn't die, so she can attack with impunity.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: And whenever you get one of those, you draw card.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's pretty powerful.
Speaker 1: So now you get a fucking giant dude, you draw card.
Holy fuck, and they get bigger every turn.
Speaker 2: That's pretty powerful.
Speaker 1: That's that's very good.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: And it's like, this is the first modern enchantress one
we've seen. It's pretty good, and it's a it's a
big beater one too. And it's not just I'm gonna
durdle and play enchantments and draw cards. It's like I'm
gonna kick the shit out of you. Yeah, and draw cards.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be I'm gonna hit you for eight.
Next turn, I'm gonna hit you for nineteen. Yeah, and
then next turn somebody else is gonna get hit because
you're dead exactly. Yeah. I don't hate that.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I like the picture too. All animals, I.
Speaker 2: Can I can see why this one would be good
because people love drawn cards people like the enchanter's thing,
which this kind of gives you kind of the fringe
of the peripheries of.
Speaker 1: I remain surprised that we haven't seen more of them
in celest Yeah, but I mean here, here's one, and
it's pretty fucking cool.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, due time, due time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm sure that they'll show up eventually, right
like they're gonna start showing up.
Speaker 2: This is number four coming up.
Speaker 1: We're flying to these Is it number four though? Oh god,
damn it.
Speaker 2: Phineas Phineas Ace ass Archer. Yeah, two two for Celesnia.
This is the third or fourth one of those.
Speaker 1: We're back to two two for two.
Speaker 2: Rabbit Archer vigilance and reach. Reach because he's an archer.
No idea why he's got vigilance because he's because of
course he does. Yeah, yeah, might as well have ward two. Yeah, Okay.
Whenever Phineas Ace Archer attacks, put a plus one plus
one counter on each other creature you control that's a
token or a rabbit hair apparent. Then if each creature
you control, then if creatures you control have total power
ten or more draw card hair apparent the hair apparent.
What is hair Apparent.
Speaker 1: Hair Apparent is like a two or a one to
one or a two two for two. When it comes
into play, if you have another rabbit, you make a rabbit.
Speaker 2: Oh so that token, Yeah, ah.
Speaker 1: That's that's what this deck is. This is relentless rats,
but in Celestia, relentless rabbits. Yes, and then you'd play
things like beast Master, Ascension, Creator, Hoof, Behemoth and all
the things that make your little dudes into big guys
and you pound everybody. Oh that this deck actually kind
of makes me a little sad.
Speaker 2: Because there's like thirty cards that are the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've played those, I've.
Speaker 2: You know, oh yeah, I've definitely played them.
Speaker 1: I've played rats, I've played Slam against Humanity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've played Persistent Petitioners. Of course, it's the card
that I've signed more than any other card out there.
Speaker 1: You've played Dragons Approach, Oh yeah, I done right, Like
we've certainly we've we've both played those decks. This one,
hair a Parent, I think is very very of the
of the the unlimited number of cards, I think is
the worst one.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: I will say that because it's it's boring. It's like,
here's a dude. If you have a dude, make another dude.
So every every turn is just play dude, make dude,
play dude, make dude. Okay, have I had two more
manicum in to play? Yes, okay, play dude, do it
three times, get out of my face with your rat.
And then you've got Phineas and they all get big
and fuck.
Speaker 2: You and damn it. So every Phineas deck is the same.
Speaker 1: I would die it is if you play a Phineas
deck that isn't just hair apparent, good on you. But
I'll bet you it wrong. I'll bet yeah. I'll bet
you a hair a parent deck would probably beat you. Frick.
That sucks, but don't it's one dud. It's one dud
out of ten twenty one dud, two duds because to Samir,
that makes Voja is also dud. Which also proves that
adding red to Celestnia is better than Celestia, because of
course it is because adding red.
Speaker 2: Try not to hate on Celestia too much.
Speaker 1: I'm not hey, man, I played Sisse, I played Drizz.
Speaker 2: I think it's good.
Speaker 1: I we haven't seen DRIs yet. Do you think he's
gonna show up?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, No, I don't think after seeing
the bullshit that we seed, I don't think so. Yeah,
I don't think you can see.
Speaker 1: Let's see if it's possible. Number four yes, probably, Oh yeah, okay,
I love this one. This is okay, I like this guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, talking about boxes. This guy's a cuckoo for two
to two for two. You think he's a fucking walris,
but he's a bear.
Speaker 1: Yes, what's more scary? Walras are a bear. If you
got into a fistfight with a walrus or a bear,
which one makes you more afraid?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not okay, I'm not going to fight either
of those creatures.
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't either run the other direction.
Speaker 2: I'm a one to one human, yes, a walrus and
a bear both two twos for two yes, okay, I'm
blocking and dying.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, in real life, it's like getting hit by a
meteor or getting struck by lightning from last week. I
can run away from a walrus. I can't run away
from a bear.
Speaker 1: On the ice, though, because you gotta be where you're
gonna find a walrus. You're not on the street, and
a walrus pops up, you're on in the Arctic.
Speaker 2: On the side on fucking I'm not in the street
and a bear pops up, I'm in their environment.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're like, so you're on the ice where they
can slide on their bellies like a penguin, but like
a walrus with a great big stink.
Speaker 2: Listen, breath, listen, listen, listen, listen. A bear can run
faster than me, beat me up, climb trees better, and swim.
Speaker 1: Faster and do cocaines. You can do so it's now
a mortal.
Speaker 2: Yes, a walrus can only swim faster than me.
Speaker 1: Ah, yeah you don't think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. I'm not fighting it. I'm not fighting
it anywhere. But I can run away. If I'm on
land fun water, I'm fucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just swimming around. Yeah yeah, but they live, they
live there. They're a hybrid living thing.
Speaker 2: They're amphibious. But it can't climb a tree.
Speaker 1: That's true. Well, there's no trees where it lives.
Speaker 2: No exactly have to climb tree. If I had to
pick between fighting a walrus or fighting a bear, the
answer is run away. I'm fighting a walrus because I'm
running on the water on the land. Yes, I'm swimming
in the water.
Speaker 1: If we're swimming in the water, you're gonna fuck. The
bear would probably catch you in the water too, That's
what I said.
Speaker 2: It can swun faster than me. Bears are superior to
humans in every way.
Speaker 1: That's true. God, humans suck. For one, it's our thumbs. Fuck.
If we didn't have thumbs, we would be extinct.
Speaker 2: No, we got pretty big brains.
Speaker 1: Our thumbs were like we just be counting things. And
then all the other animals would kill us, and we'd
all be dinosaur We'd all be alligators right now.
Speaker 2: Just making just making fuel for the next generation.
Speaker 1: If we couldn't grip a freaking spear of some sort,
the alligators would have rose up and kill us. By now,
the birds would have retaken the planet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that'd be fucked up.
Speaker 1: We don't have hollow bones. Now, where's their bone marrow?
How do they survive? Birds don't make sense. They're drones
from the government.
Speaker 2: They're drones from nature. Nature's drones.
Speaker 1: That's not even true. I think birds are awesome. Okay
to two for celestians, we're talking to king among bears.
Holy shit, And why this deck is awesome? Other creatures
you don't.
Speaker 2: Other creatures have base power and toughness to two and
our bears in addition to their other types.
Speaker 1: So that includes their opponents. Shit, this Ryan is secretly
a stacks deck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because all you have to.
Speaker 1: Do is make sure that your dudes are bigger than theirs.
And I know that because when I played this, I
played slime against humanity. So when my zero zeros came
in with all those counters on them, they were two
two's with counters on them, yes, which means that they
were all ways bigger than my opponent's ship.
Speaker 2: All ways, I'm I'm putting I'm putting freaking Captain Sisse
in my kudo deck yep. And she's gonna search for
elish Norn and all her sisters elis Norn and elis
Norn and elish Norn and alish Norn.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: And then all my opponents creatures are zero zero.
Speaker 1: And of born clecks because fuck it fuck them yeah,
because of course Codo Codo King among bears and it
elis Norn one means your opponents don't have creatures anymore.
Speaker 2: Ever, Yeah, this is this is a freaking humility in
the command zone, but for two manna. Yeah, and and
sure the other two twos on humility is one one,
but like really doesn't matter. If I got Elis Norn,
you got nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're, you're fucking dead down.
Speaker 2: Yeah. This is a cool deck. Shout out to the
Andy Warhol profile art version. Shout out to playing other
bears historically it's bears. It includes white where bears historically
have been green, with Ayula, et cetera. Yep, it's a
Stacks deck. It's an Elis norm deck. Yeah, man, cool, cool,
every which way from Sunday. I like this one.
Speaker 1: I like everything about Kudo, king among bears. I'm glad
that he exists, and I hope that we see those again.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do a recap because I think Kudo might
be number three.
Speaker 1: I think he was number three.
Speaker 2: Okay, Jasmine Boreal.
Speaker 1: Okay, we we've told her, and I'm happy that she exists.
With the no creature man a vanilla creature of the deck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cara Matra, that domn whatever.
Speaker 1: Who cares?
Speaker 2: Number eight Sigarta, solid card that exists.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Number seven, good one, that's that's a.
Speaker 1: Good on that one. Number six it's a lie. But
experienced players helping newer players. That's a good game.
Speaker 2: There you go. You're playing now number five Elevier. That's
a really good She slaps that will slap the shit out.
She's gonna grab that raccoon by a tail and swinging
at you like a club. Yeah, she's gonna like a
sackful of doorn I'm gonna fucking stampy with those mushrooms.
Speaker 1: I would say, like, oh, that's the best use of
a raccoon and magic, but Bello exists.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So she's number four, four, number three. Phineas, that's
number four. Phineas is number four, number three. I like,
that's my favorite one so far. I'm number number two,
number two, k number two, number two. Oh terrible, let's go.
Speaker 1: He made it.
Speaker 2: He made it, he got better.
Speaker 1: Is that the highest climb we've seen? Oh?
Speaker 2: Fuck, he climbed.
Speaker 1: He went way up because he was usually freaking Yeah.
Usually old they go down. Yeah, usually commands.
Speaker 2: Because cats have gotten better.
Speaker 1: But cats have been supported. And I'm gonna I'm gonna say,
every set a good cat. I'll bet you there's a
cat in every set.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He got good. He uh, he figured it out.
Speaker 1: He realized that you got to really learn how to
block and dodge and he just got good and now
he beats lots of bosses. Ah, that's an elden Ring thing.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm good. I'll take it.
Speaker 1: Lots of people who are good at the game say
I'm good at it, and that makes me very proud.
Speaker 2: I'm very proud he's number two.
Speaker 1: He went fucking way up. Because we talked about it
before where it's like the Age of efficiency, it's go wide,
it's do all the things. But this really kind of
tells you to focus in on one dude and get
him with it. So I think this is like a
casual thing. Was like, I want to look at the
cat deck. Here's the cat deck. Let's build it and
play it now.
Speaker 2: This is this is everybody googling. This is a self
fulfilling prophecy. This is this is the cat somebody going
online and saying cat Commander deck, finding arable and being like, oh, yeah,
I guess this is it. I'll build it. This is
people going to arcadect dot com. This is people saying
I want to build my girlfriend a cat deck. This
is people saying yah Celesnia cats going on YouTube edh
cat deck and this is what they find. So it
just perpetuates the the build.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, although to be fair, it's also good. Yes,
this is a good deck still, and I know that
because I played it.
Speaker 2: Also, this the the downward pressure, and I don't know
if it's survived in the lost recording for this episode,
but the downward pressure that that CEDH is putting on
the format makes it okay to play. The things that
make this deck good spot removal, instant speed, hex proof,
et cetera. Yep, makes it so you can go tall
and protect your guy yep. And nobody bats an eye
at a c EDH staple being included in your cat
your your bracket too, Cat deck.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, altho, that would make it a break at
three or four cat deck because the staple's probably fucking
armageddon in your scum.
Speaker 2: No, the staple is like snake skin, veil and spider
silk jerkof and yeah, Tamio's fucking butthole on Instagram.
Speaker 1: Like that's true. You know what a really good card
in this deck is that you would appreciate, uh, wild cattle.
Speaker 2: Oh you don't even blame mountains in the deck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't need to because it's a five to five
for one. Yeah, because eminence.
Speaker 2: I don't hate five fives for one.
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Yeah, five five for one. Maybe what
do you think number one? You know we haven't seen
We've only seen one Enchantress and only a few token
swarm decks.
Speaker 2: You know, we haven't seen Universes beyond. Holy shit, that
is that's literally the reason we started doing this arc
is to prove that Universes Beyond haven't fucked with shit
as much as everybody said, says and thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't seen a single one. The closest we
got was glunch.
Speaker 2: Let's see number one of Now we're gonna go.
Speaker 1: Ah fuck, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be something terrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's just do it. Oh god, damn it,
the son of a We knew it. This is Situs
harvest hand goshit. Yeah, okay, this is a enchantment legendary
enchantment creature. Nymph. She's addicted to Enchantress, yes one two.
Speaker 1: I was just saying, no, she's just she gives money
to enchantress. But that's a simp. She's a legendary enchantment creature.
Speaker 2: Simp for green white, which is very obviously a trend
in this color. The two drop or one drop commander.
Whenever an enchantment whenever you cast an enchantment.
Speaker 1: Spell doesn't even come into plays, cast.
Speaker 2: One, just cast one can get counter. Yep, you gain
one life and you draw card.
Speaker 1: There it is. That's why there's that's why there's no
Enchantress in the top ten.
Speaker 2: Because she because she freaking takes up all the spot.
Speaker 1: Because she just does it. If you want to do
enchantress on mass, I'm not saying you can't do it
without her, Why would you do it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't need running shoes to run, but it
sure fucking helps. Yeah right, this is cythus. I got
my sitis fucking air zon. Yeah, lace them up and
I'm gonna go, yes, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: Do those actually do anything?
Speaker 2: My buddy Kyle had some of those, like in kindergarten
or grade one, and he said you could feel him
get tighter. I don't know, man, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think I feel like I didn't. I think he
was just saying that because he spent forty more dollars
on shoes than you did.
Speaker 2: Perhaps that's what I think. Perhaps, so if I says, okay,
uncle Brando, yoh, typical enchantress. What is that creature?
Speaker 1: You're probably looking at a like a zero power for yes,
three or four? Yes, that draws a card when an
enchantment either gets play or comes into yes, the battle
field of your control.
Speaker 2: So let's shave a man off that why or two? Yeah,
let's make it a one power. Let's give it a power.
Speaker 1: Let's make it so can attack.
Speaker 2: Yes, let's make you also gain a life.
Speaker 1: Why not?
Speaker 2: Because I'm not gonna block with my enchantresses and have
them die, so I might as well gain life as
a means of virtual blocking.
Speaker 1: It's like blocking.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And because I play this on turn two, then
in like an enchantress's presence, which is which is an
enchantment on turn three, if my sisters sit this dies
on turn four, I just play it again and gain
a life and draw card because because of course, like oh,
my dad is the enchantress's presence, because this is an
enchantment because she's and she's in the command zone. God, yeah, okay,
this is good. It is no wonder if this is
number one.
Speaker 1: I understand why we didn't see them in the list,
except for the one that what's all that glitters on
all your.
Speaker 2: Creats Bellvier or whatever your name is. Yeah, Gwenevere, Gwenevere.
Speaker 1: Elevit, Gwellevier, Gwyna here, whatever the fuck?
Speaker 2: No, Gwenevere is actually the name from Lamar to Arthur Guenever. Yeah,
that's the actual character's name. This is Elevier. This is
who that's based off of.
Speaker 1: Really, Yes, did Gwenever have all those animal friends and ship?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know the King Arthur legend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every one? Which version, which decade, which which century
are you reading it from? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Whatever? The point is this is, of course there's no
other ones, because there's one that's so far above everybody else.
Why would you play anything else unless you're doing I
don't want to say a meme thing because that that
detracts from what you're doing. But like, why do something else? Well,
I'm gonna tell you, why do something else? Because you
add fucking blue and play Estra it like you.
Speaker 2: I am gonna play Estra in the bald so I
can play a little ditty called fucking uh ristic study.
Speaker 1: What about dream Halls? Dream Hall's pretty good, omniscient, omniscious,
good propaganda. Maybe what about I don't I don't know
if you ever heard of this card. Maybe you haven't.
Maybe you have brand new if you can break this
down in the comments intruder alarm ooh.
Speaker 2: That's a good one. I see your intruder alarm, sir,
and I raise you a mind over matter.
Speaker 1: Fuck that card sucks. You have to dis card cards
to make it work.
Speaker 2: Discard a card to tap or untap target artifact, creature
or land or land. What if I discard an enchantment
to untap my Sarah Sanctum?
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do with all that?
Speaker 2: Man a tap it for eleven? Just start an enchantment
to untap my Sarah Sanctum.
Speaker 1: Okay, but then you're down one card. Are you gonna
do it?
Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna do that for my entire hand
of enchantments. Oh shit, And then I'm gonna cast a replenish. Goddamn,
all those enchantments are gonna enter the battlefield. I'm gonna
draw cards for each one entering.
Speaker 1: Why not? And then maybe you're going to draw two cards?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Could have, Yeah, maybe you will.
Speaker 2: So another example of Celesnia being outperformed by band.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honest, really, if you if there's another two color
combination that has been beat down more than Celesnia by
three color. Let us know, yeah, because I think there's
still reasons to play Azorious and rack demere arzov Grol,
Like you can still say, okay, like I'm gonna stick
to these two colors because it does the thing I
want to do really good, and I don't need another
color to make it do what I want it to do.
I would argue that Celestia, by adding another color, I
would say four, any of the four other colors, you're
probably gonna do the Celestnia thing better, like actually better. Yeah,
because Enchantress with blue is better. I think bigger beatings
with tokens with red is better plus one plus one
counter is with black.
Speaker 2: Better than just car car drawn black. Yeah, spells in
black or in blue.
Speaker 1: I mean like you're just I feel like you're just
doing better when you add another color. Yeah, And I
think that's rare.
Speaker 4: Like you can say, oh, yeah, but if you're doing meal,
if you heard whatever, ell ya, if you add another
color to Demeir like sure, but you can still play
a demere mill deck and mill everybody out and have
a deck that's fully functional and you can't.
Speaker 1: Just say this would be strictly better with another. But
I think you can say that with fucking Celestia. Well,
I don't know, man.
Speaker 2: If I'm wrong, tell us if you wanted to get
some Celestia stuff, how what why would I want to
if you wanted to get some abs and or bands?
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with Commander Cookout is a good one, and it is
next week we're doing Orozov. Well, yeah, you know, I
got my Alenda, which I hope we see in the
top ten. I got my Alenda at Fusion CECO Nation
promo code.
Speaker 1: I got my Ratit Rabbic from there.
Speaker 2: I am actually super pumped. I think Orozov might be
my favorite guild I like. I like just the bullshit.
It's not my favorite three color, and it's certainly not
my favorite mono color because it's a it's a two colors,
because it's two color. My favorite mono color. Oh yeah,
it's black. Yeah, I was gonna say it's it's blue.
Doesn't even include Orzov butt, man, it's it's sure getting
close with those mono colors. Black and blue. Man, I
like both of those, but but Barzov very much my
favorite dual color. Big thanks to Pylo Bones Brewing Coat
out of Regina, Saskatchewan. I'm gonna go get a tour
there next week.
Speaker 1: I think I'm jealous. You're gonna you're gonna see Pete
and Keel. Yes, you're gonna get a tour of the
beer place. Yes, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bathe in beer. I'm gonna I'm gonna dive
into the tank, swim around in it. Yes, drink it
because I'm drowning. I gotta drink my way out, like
on beer Fest. Remember that movie.
Speaker 1: We'll drink our way out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's what's coming up two weeks from now.
We're actually flopping is it in Gulgari because we've got
a subject matter expert coming from gulgary Land the graveyard. Yes,
it's coming back from the dead. Are we gonna have
a zombie, Yes, a plant zombie. Well he does have
to fly here, so maybe he'll be jet legged. That's exciting.
There we go.
Speaker 1: So so for I'm gonna say it, I'm gonna say it.
So I think Celesnia surprised me. Oh, because I thought
it was gonna be all tokens and enchantresses, okay, and
it wasn't. And granted, I think part of that was
because the best enchantress commander was number one and it's
so high above the rest of them that it just
knocked him all out. But still still there was some
cool shit kudo being in there and like some oh yeah,
that's cool, right, there's.
Speaker 2: Sometigue and shit right, like stuff that you don't normally
think about.
Speaker 1: Was surprising. And so when I go into next week,
uh or Zov was another one that I was like,
Oh my god, we're just going to talk about a million.
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think so, man, we're gonna get
zombies in there, We're gonna get aristocrats, We're gonna get
sacrifice and we're gonna get back decks that that are standalone. Sure,
aristocrats might be a strategy or or like a way
to capitalize on that ship, but you don't have to.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get unbelievable one unbelievable legends matter deck. Yeah,
I'm I'm so sure that Ratidrabbic will be in top ten.
Speaker 2: I hope so.
Speaker 1: I've never I've The only other time I've been more
certain of anything is when I was like, yeah, Cranko's
top ten in Red.
Speaker 2: Is this a prediction?
Speaker 1: I think it is. I think we're gonna see Ratidrabbic
in the top ten of now in ars off and
I think that that's fucking cool, and maybe it'll surprise us.
Maybe it'll be less than fifty percent aristocrats bullshit, bullshit,
And you know how people are gonna learn if if
that is reality, They're gonna have to check out the
next exciting episode of Comnder cook Cout podcast at our soon.
Speaker 3: So