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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>JFI. It's Later with mo Kelly.

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<v Speaker 3>We're live on YouTube, Instagram, and the iHeartRadio app. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>talk to registered nurse Amy Wolke, who is at Miller

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<v Speaker 3>Children and Women's Hospital in Long Beach as we talk

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<v Speaker 3>about the forthcoming strike, the one day strike, which is

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<v Speaker 3>coming up on Thursday, May twenty second. Amy, how are

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<v Speaker 3>you this evening.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing well. How are you, Mo?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing fine, And I want to add that you're

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<v Speaker 3>also on the bargaining team, so you will literally be

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<v Speaker 3>sitting at the table. This is presuming that management comes

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<v Speaker 3>to the table. I spoke to one of your colleagues

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<v Speaker 3>about a week or so ago, and at that point

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<v Speaker 3>management had not made any overtures that they were ready

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<v Speaker 3>to negotiate.

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<v Speaker 2>Has anything changed, No.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing has changed, and if anything, it's just got and

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<v Speaker 4>I guess a lot more stressful in the hospital setting.

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<v Speaker 4>Not only am I on the bargaining team, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>also one of the nurses that was laid off in

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<v Speaker 4>the outpatient specialty clinic that we call the village, the

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<v Speaker 4>Children's Village, So I'm wearing a couple of different hats.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now, I'm trying to support my nurses and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>also trying to support myself through this hard time.

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<v Speaker 3>How many I'm sorry jump in there, but how many

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<v Speaker 3>people were laid off in this most recent round of

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<v Speaker 3>medical staff being laid off?

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<v Speaker 4>We had about seventy nurses laid off. Fifty five nurses

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<v Speaker 4>in the outpatient setting. In the specialty center where we

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<v Speaker 4>take care of kids with all kinds of special needs

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<v Speaker 4>chronic health conditions, forty seven out of sixty nine of

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<v Speaker 4>our nurses were laid out. That's seventy percent of our nurses.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you have that much of a loss of staff,

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<v Speaker 3>How does that translate to patient care?

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<v Speaker 2>Where does that impact you.

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<v Speaker 4>Personally? I think it's going to really impact patient care.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of our nurses out in the outpatient center.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a meeting today and some of those nurses

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<v Speaker 4>have been nursing for thirty years, some of them twenty years.

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<v Speaker 4>And in the outpatient setting, a lot of us, like

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<v Speaker 4>I'm one of the new beasts and I've been there

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<v Speaker 4>eight years. So it's been a place where we have

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<v Speaker 4>brought our skill and our love for these kids to

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<v Speaker 4>keep them safe and to keep them healthy, and by

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<v Speaker 4>taking us out of the village, we feel that it

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<v Speaker 4>is not going to be a safe place for these

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<v Speaker 4>kids right now. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>What are nurses at Long Beach Medical Center asking for

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<v Speaker 3>in this hopefully eventual negotiation.

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<v Speaker 4>What are we asking for? We are asking for all

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of things. We're asking to address our concerns about staffing,

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<v Speaker 4>about workplace violence, and recruitment and retention. We have situations

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<v Speaker 4>where our nurses and some of our units, like the

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<v Speaker 4>NICK you that's the Neonatal Intensive Care unit, the intensive

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<v Speaker 4>care unit, and in the er. These nurses all work

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<v Speaker 4>twelve hour shifts, but sometimes they don't get breaks, and

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<v Speaker 4>sometimes they're asked to work another four hours. Now, think

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<v Speaker 4>about that, trying to care for sick patients and you're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to do that over a sixteen hour period. So

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<v Speaker 4>we are really concerned first of all for our nurses

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<v Speaker 4>and their safety, but also for our patient safety.

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<v Speaker 3>Beyond the patient safety, I understand that management is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be bringing in other nurses for this one day

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<v Speaker 3>strike to cover the staff who will be striking.

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<v Speaker 2>How does that play out? Is that even feasible.

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<v Speaker 4>That they can take care of our patients correct well,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure that they will be able to take care

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<v Speaker 4>of them. Will they be able to do as good

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<v Speaker 4>of a job as we do? No, And we we

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<v Speaker 4>feel you know, the hospital's response. You know, first of all,

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<v Speaker 4>we gave the strike notice, and we gave it a

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<v Speaker 4>day before our last bargaining day with the hopes that

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<v Speaker 4>they were going to come to the table and give

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<v Speaker 4>us a you know, some some things that we could

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<v Speaker 4>actually look at, that we could talk about, because we

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<v Speaker 4>haven't felt like there's been a good conversation going back

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<v Speaker 4>and forth in terms of these proposals. So this one

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<v Speaker 4>day strike, we did that because we wanted to take

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<v Speaker 4>care of our patients. And you know, locking us out

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<v Speaker 4>for five days mendous cost to the medical center and

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<v Speaker 4>to the community. You know, they signed the contract to

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<v Speaker 4>replace us for five days. That's millions of dollars that

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<v Speaker 4>they could have put back into the hospital and put

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<v Speaker 4>into you know, safety. You know, we're we're asking we

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<v Speaker 4>have we have issues with workplace violence, and we've asked

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<v Speaker 4>for you know, metal detectors or and you know, they said, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll get that for you. But now they're saying we can't.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, maybe they're not going to do that right away,

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<v Speaker 4>the way that they were going to the nurses in

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<v Speaker 4>the outpatient setting were offered a severance package, they're now

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<v Speaker 4>saying that they're not going to give us that severage

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<v Speaker 4>severance package because it's costing them money to bring those

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<v Speaker 4>other nurses in. So we're upset.

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<v Speaker 3>Beyond being upset, I as an outsider, am looking at

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<v Speaker 3>this from thirty thousand feet up, as they say, and

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<v Speaker 3>I see that there is a management component who doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>seem willing to come to the bargaining table and is

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<v Speaker 3>okay with going through or enduring this quote unquote one

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<v Speaker 3>day strike, even though it may be over five days

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<v Speaker 3>that you've been locked out. If we are to assume

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<v Speaker 3>that management is going to hold their stance and not

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<v Speaker 3>come to the bargaining table at least in the near future,

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<v Speaker 3>does that mean that your union will then possibly call

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<v Speaker 3>for a longer strike in the future.

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<v Speaker 4>We're gonna take one day to time here, We're going

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<v Speaker 4>to get through this strike. We're gonna get back and

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<v Speaker 4>take care of our patients and you know, and then

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<v Speaker 4>we will discuss next steps. Right now, we're not there.

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<v Speaker 4>We want to focus on the present and just getting

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<v Speaker 4>through the next few days.

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<v Speaker 3>Amy, can I get you to hold on for a moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love to carry over our conversation into the next segment.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you do that for me?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Joining me right now on the line is registered nurse

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<v Speaker 3>Amy Woke. She is at Miller Children and Women's Hospital,

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<v Speaker 3>formerly at Long Beach Medical Center. We're talking about the

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<v Speaker 3>upcoming forthcoming strike, the one day strike on Thursday, May

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<v Speaker 3>twenty second of nurses who have also been locked out

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<v Speaker 3>for five days by management. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>what is going to happen during the strike and what

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<v Speaker 3>is going to happen possibly moving forward.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have more in just a moment. It's Later with

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<v Speaker 2>mo Kelly.

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<v Speaker 3>We're live on YouTube, Instagram, and the iHeartRadio app.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from

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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 3>With We're live everywhere on YouTube, Instagram, and the iHeartRadio app,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you just tuning in, I'm right in the

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<v Speaker 3>middle of a conversation with registered nurse Amy Woke, who

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<v Speaker 3>works at Miller Children and Women's Hospital in Long Beach,

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<v Speaker 3>but she's also on the bargaining team for Long Beach

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<v Speaker 3>Medical Center nurses who are going to go on a

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<v Speaker 3>one day strike on Thursday, May twenty second, but they've

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<v Speaker 3>also been locked out by management over the course of

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<v Speaker 3>five days. And Amy, let me bring you back into

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<v Speaker 3>the conversation. We talked about what has been leading up

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<v Speaker 3>to this moment, how management from where you said, has

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<v Speaker 3>not been responsive to your requests, your demands, or even

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<v Speaker 3>the desire to negotiate. And I was asking you about

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<v Speaker 3>what the future may hold, and you're trying to take

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<v Speaker 3>this one step at a time. But at the beginning

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<v Speaker 3>of our conversation, I talked about how there were a

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<v Speaker 3>number of nurses and staff which was laid off. I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to make sure that I have my information

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<v Speaker 3>correct that there was no management who was laid off.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just frontline nurses. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's my understanding it. You know, there were a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of respiratory therapists. I think that we're also laid off,

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<v Speaker 4>and a few other people within the hospital, but no

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<v Speaker 4>high management at all, no management at all. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the whole thing about the strike is interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they keep saying that we're in the hole

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<v Speaker 4>in terms of money, yet they're willing to spend four

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<v Speaker 4>days extra on a lockout, which is costing millions of dollars,

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<v Speaker 4>which again that they could have put back into the contracts,

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<v Speaker 4>back into nursing care. It's like they really need to

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<v Speaker 4>get rid of the seventy eight nurses if they can

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<v Speaker 4>put this amount of money into bringing in outside nurses.

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<v Speaker 4>From what there's a disconnect.

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<v Speaker 3>From what you understand. This is just a cost cutting measure.

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<v Speaker 3>They're trying to get rid of staff. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that you did not get raises. What has

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<v Speaker 3>management said about any of this up until this point

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<v Speaker 3>as far as the why.

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<v Speaker 4>The why is basically the concern for medical cruts. They're

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<v Speaker 4>coming and we're also seeing the hospitals nationwide are not

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<v Speaker 4>being reimbursed as much. So, but I think, you know there,

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<v Speaker 4>I think there's more to it, and I just can't

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<v Speaker 4>put my finger on it, but I you know, it's

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<v Speaker 4>just very frustrating when we're sitting across the table and

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<v Speaker 4>the hospital keeps you know, what they want to focus

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<v Speaker 4>on is taking our rights as nurses away, trying to

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<v Speaker 4>take our union away from us, and not focusing on

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<v Speaker 4>the bigger problems.

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<v Speaker 2>You say, you say, take your union away.

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<v Speaker 3>You think that they're actively trying to bust the union altogether.

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<v Speaker 3>It's bigger than this one particular negotiation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, I think you know. They're looking at trying

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<v Speaker 4>to prevent our union reps from coming into the hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't want nurse reps to come into the hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>It's called loitering. They want to make it so that

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<v Speaker 4>we have to go through what's called mandatory arbitration, which

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<v Speaker 4>means that if we get hurt in the hospital, they

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<v Speaker 4>want us to go to their lawyers to have them

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<v Speaker 4>figure it out, instead of us being able to hire

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<v Speaker 4>our own lawyer. And the way I see it is

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<v Speaker 4>there's a lack of respect for nursing in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>We are considered units of service. That was a term

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<v Speaker 4>that was used across the table, that we are units

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<v Speaker 4>of service. So they're looking at us in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>widgets or in terms of a business model. Healthcare should

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<v Speaker 4>not be a business model. Healthcare should be available to

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<v Speaker 4>anybody and everybody. And in this time, our healthcare system

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<v Speaker 4>is turning into a sick care model. When we wipe

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<v Speaker 4>out the nurses in the specialty center where we're taking

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<v Speaker 4>care of kids with chronic health conditions, having them live

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<v Speaker 4>to the best of their ability, and then you take

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<v Speaker 4>those nurses away, those kids are going to end up

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<v Speaker 4>back in the hospital. So what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Amy?

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<v Speaker 3>My time is running out with you, but I want

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<v Speaker 3>you to put it in as stark terms as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>If an agreement is not reached in the near future

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<v Speaker 3>between the nurses of Long Beach Medical Center and management,

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<v Speaker 3>what does that mean for patients?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean for medical care bigger picture?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I assume whatever happens in Long Beach Medical Center

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<v Speaker 3>could probably happen at any other hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think you know again, I want to focus

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<v Speaker 4>on what's happening now. I can't look too far out

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<v Speaker 4>into the future. I want to focus on what we

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<v Speaker 4>can possibly do now. And we do have hope that

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<v Speaker 4>the hospital will come back to the table after the

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<v Speaker 4>strike and that you know, safe staffing is key for

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<v Speaker 4>taking care of our patients and for attracting and retaining

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<v Speaker 4>staff nurses, So you know, they need to invest in

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<v Speaker 4>us and hopefully they'll bring some of us back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's later with mo Kelly. Thanks so much, Amy Woke

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<v Speaker 2>for coming on.

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<v Speaker 3>She is a nurse at Miller Children and Women's Hospital

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<v Speaker 3>in Long Beach. We will continue to follow that story

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