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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Bedtime Astronomy. Explore the wonders of the cosmos

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<v Speaker 1>with our soothing Bedtime Astronomie podcast. Each episode offers a

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<v Speaker 1>gentle journey through the stars, planets, and beyond, perfect for

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<v Speaker 1>unwinding after a long day. Let's travel through the mysteries

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe as you drift off into a peaceful

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<v Speaker 1>slumber under the night sky.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to start by picturing something for me.

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<v Speaker 2>You step outside on a clear, crisp, moonless night, Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>The best kind of night for stargazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. You look up and you see that familiar breath

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<v Speaker 2>taking expanse. You know, the sparkling, distinct points of light,

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<v Speaker 2>the deep ink black voids between them, maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>Even the faint, sort of misty smudge of our own

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<v Speaker 3>milky way stretching across the horizon if you're lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Exactly, it's crisp, it's defined. You were looking through

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<v Speaker 2>this incredibly transparent window of our universe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you can see things that are literally million

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<v Speaker 3>of light years away, simply because the space between you

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<v Speaker 3>and that object is empty.

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<v Speaker 2>It's empty. But now I want you to take that image,

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<v Speaker 2>that fundamental human experience of stargazing and just completely erase it.

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<v Speaker 2>E RaSE the whole sky, the whole thing. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>want you to replace that pristine, starry canvas with something

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<v Speaker 2>entirely different. Imagine looking up and instead of stars, you

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<v Speaker 2>see nothing but a thick, impenetrable, murky gray fog.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, just fog everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no points of light, no definition at all, just

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<v Speaker 2>this oppressive cosmic soup blocking your view in every single direction.

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<v Speaker 3>That is. I mean, that's a really unsettling image.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is. And the crazy thing is, for roughly

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<v Speaker 2>the first billion years of its existence, that is exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what our universe looked like. It was completely hidden behind

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<v Speaker 2>this veil.

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<v Speaker 3>It defies every intuition we have about the cosmos, honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>because when we think of space, we inherently think of

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<v Speaker 3>empty space.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, just a big empty vacuum, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>We think of a perfect vacuum that light can just

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<v Speaker 3>travel through uninterrupted for billions of years. But that fundamental transparency,

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually a feature that had to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Earned, earned. What do you mean by earned, Well, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Had to be forged. The early universe was not an

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<v Speaker 3>empty vacuum at all. It was choked with this primordial

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<v Speaker 3>fog that fundamentally trapped energetic light.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are going to take you back today, roughly

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<v Speaker 2>twelve billion years in time, to witness this pivotal, almost

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<v Speaker 2>unbelievable moment in cosmic.

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<v Speaker 3>History, really specific moment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we are going back to watch this tiny, hyperactive,

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<v Speaker 2>absolute underdog of a galaxy managed to punch a physical

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<v Speaker 2>hole right through that universal darkness.

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<v Speaker 3>It's quite the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Our goal today is to understand how astronomers have managed

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<v Speaker 2>to capture the precise mechanics of this ancient event, an

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<v Speaker 2>event that literally changed the fabric of the universe.

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<v Speaker 3>The sheer scale of the mystery we are talking about

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<v Speaker 3>here is just staggering because understanding this moment and this

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<v Speaker 3>specific galaxy. It isn't just about cataloging incredibly distant ancient

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<v Speaker 3>star system for the sake of making a list.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It's not just stamp collecting exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>We are talking about solving a decade's old mystery in astrophysics.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about answering the fundamental question of how the

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<v Speaker 3>universe transitioned from that dark, opaque expanse into the transparent,

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<v Speaker 3>light filled cosmos we have today.

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<v Speaker 2>The cosmos that allows us to even exist and look

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<v Speaker 2>up at the sky exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>It's literally the story of how the lights were permanently

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<v Speaker 3>turned on.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so to really grasp the magnitude of this, we

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<v Speaker 2>need to completely understand the environment we are dealing with. Here.

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<v Speaker 2>We are talking about a specific era.

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<v Speaker 3>Astronomers call it the era of reionization.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, the era of realization. So let's establish the timeline

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone. The Big Bang happens. The universe is unbelievably hot.

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<v Speaker 3>And dense, and as it expands, it starts to cool down.

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<v Speaker 2>And for roughly the first billion years after that initial spark,

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<v Speaker 2>the space between the newly forming stars and galaxies wasn't empty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Was completely filled with neutral hydrogen gas, and this gas

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<v Speaker 2>acted as a literal physical barrier, like an opaque wall

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<v Speaker 2>to energetic ultraviolet light.

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<v Speaker 3>And the physics of why this specific gas acts as

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<v Speaker 3>a wall is actually really critical.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, walk us through that. Why hydrogen, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>When the universe was born, it was essentially this giant

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<v Speaker 3>expanding furnace. It was a plasma where protons and electrons

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<v Speaker 3>were just violently zipping around because it was so hot,

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<v Speaker 3>way too energetic to bond together. Yeah, but as the

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<v Speaker 3>universe expanded, the temperature naturally dropped, makes sense, and about

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred and eighty thousand years after the Big Bang,

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<v Speaker 3>it cooled just enough for those protons and electrons to

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<v Speaker 3>finally grab onto each other, and that's.

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<v Speaker 2>When they form the very first atoms.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly specifically, they formed neutral hydrogen, which is just one

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<v Speaker 3>proton and one electron locked together in this little atomic dance.

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<v Speaker 2>Now on the surface, that seems like a good thing, right,

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<v Speaker 2>like a step toward order. The universe is organized itself

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<v Speaker 2>into atoms.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a huge step for matter, but for light

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<v Speaker 3>it was a disaster, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Because in terms of light, this new order created a

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<v Speaker 2>massive problem. I always think of this era like a

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<v Speaker 2>frosted glass window in a bathroom.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, that's a good way to look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, you can stand on the outside of

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<v Speaker 2>that window, and you know there's a bright light source

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<v Speaker 2>on the inside. You know, someone turned a light bulb.

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<v Speaker 3>On, but you can't see the ball itself exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>The material of that frosted glass scatters every single photon

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<v Speaker 2>that hits it. You can't see the shape of the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't see the room. Everything is just scattered into

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<v Speaker 2>this hazy, indistinguishable glow.

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<v Speaker 3>That's exactly it. That neutral hydrogen was the frosted glass

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<v Speaker 3>of the universe, and it was specifically tuned to block

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<v Speaker 3>the high energy ultraviolet light being produced by the very first.

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<v Speaker 2>Stars, tuned to block it. How does that work?

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<v Speaker 3>Your frosted glass analogy works perfectly. When you look at

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<v Speaker 3>the quantum mechanics of a hydrogen atom, you see neutral

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<v Speaker 3>hydrogen atoms are essentially perfect tuned traps for energetic ultraviolet.

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<v Speaker 2>Photons, like they're designed to catch them.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty much. In a neutral atom, the electron is sitting

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<v Speaker 3>at its lowest energy state. So when an energetic ultraviolet

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<v Speaker 3>photon from a newly born star comes along and hits

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<v Speaker 3>that neutral hydrogen.

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<v Speaker 2>Atom, the atom just absorbs it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, the atom's electron absorbs that energy and physically jumps

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<v Speaker 3>away from the proton into a higher orbit. The light

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't pass through at all, it's just consumed.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Its energy is used to excite or even break the

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<v Speaker 3>atom apart. So any young hot star trying to shine

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<v Speaker 3>its brilliant UV light out into the cosmos would just

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<v Speaker 3>find its light immediately swallowed by the surrounding hydrogen fog.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this is where I want to push back a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, because I think if you were listening to this,

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<v Speaker 2>a very logical counter argument might be forming in your head.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, let's hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we know the universe was expanding, right, It has

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<v Speaker 2>been expanding since the moment of the Big Bang, and

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<v Speaker 2>the actual fabric of space is still stretching today.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>So if this fog is just made of gas and

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<v Speaker 2>the literal space it occupies is stretching out and getting bigger,

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<v Speaker 2>shouldn't that neutral hydrogen fog have just naturally stretched out,

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<v Speaker 2>thinned out, and dissipated on its.

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<v Speaker 3>Own over time, like a cloud of smoke blowing away.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly why campfire smoke dispersing in the wind? Why do

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<v Speaker 2>astronomers believe something had to actively violently clear it.

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<v Speaker 3>That is a really great question. In connecting it to

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<v Speaker 3>cosmic expansion makes complete sense, but it actually highlights the

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<v Speaker 3>slight misunderstanding of what expansion does to matter at this

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<v Speaker 3>specific scale.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, correct me, what am I missing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the universe was expanding, which means the average distance

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<v Speaker 3>between galaxies was increasing, So the overall density of the

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<v Speaker 3>gas in the universe was very slowly decreasing.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It's spreading out.

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<v Speaker 3>But and this is the key, physical expansion alone does

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<v Speaker 3>not change the chemical or electrical state of the gas itself.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I see, So just spreading the atoms further apart

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't stop them from being a trap for the light exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's follow that logic. Even if the hydrogen atoms are

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<v Speaker 3>slightly further apart from one another due to the stretching

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<v Speaker 3>of space, they are still fundamentally neutral hydrogen.

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<v Speaker 2>They still have that electron waiting to catch a photon bingo.

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<v Speaker 3>They still possess that perfectly positioned electron. So if a

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<v Speaker 3>photon travels through space, eventually it will hit one of

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<v Speaker 3>these atoms, no matter how spread out they.

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<v Speaker 2>Are, because there's just so much space to cross.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, to make the universe truly transparent, to give us

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<v Speaker 3>the clear night sky, you couldn't just thin the fog out.

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<v Speaker 3>You had to fundamentally alter the nature of the fog itself.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to change the gas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, you had to change it from a neutral state

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<v Speaker 3>back into an ionized.

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<v Speaker 2>Plasma, Which means we need to define ionization for everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>because to ionize a gas, you essentially have to break

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<v Speaker 2>the atom.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It is a totally destructive process. Yeah, ionization is

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<v Speaker 3>the act of literally ripping the electron away from the proton.

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<v Speaker 2>Entirely, so you're not just exciting the electron, you're kicking

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<v Speaker 2>it out exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Have to hit that neutral hydrogen atom with an overwhelming

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<v Speaker 3>amount of energetic ultraviolet light, so much energy that the

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<v Speaker 3>electron is violently and permanently stripped away.

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<v Speaker 2>And once that happens.

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<v Speaker 3>When that happens, the gas becomes ionized, and ionized hydrogen,

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<v Speaker 3>missing its electron, no longer has the mechanism to absorb

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<v Speaker 3>that same ultraviolet.

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<v Speaker 2>Light because the trap is gone.

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<v Speaker 3>The trap is gone, the photon can finally pass right

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<v Speaker 3>through the empty space of the atom unimpeded. To use

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<v Speaker 3>your analogy, the frosted glass suddenly becomes a pane of

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<v Speaker 3>clear glass.

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<v Speaker 2>That is wild. So to clear the cosmic fog, the

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<v Speaker 2>universe literally had to be blasted with radiation on an

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<v Speaker 2>unimaginable scale.

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<v Speaker 3>It really did. And this change over this era of realization,

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<v Speaker 3>it was not a quick.

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<v Speaker 2>Transition, wasn't just slipping a switch, not at all.

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<v Speaker 3>It was an incredibly grueling, violent process. It was a

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<v Speaker 3>cosmic war of attrition that took hundreds of millions of

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<v Speaker 3>years to complete.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundreds of millions of years of just bombarding.

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<v Speaker 3>Gas photon by photon. The earliest stars were fighting back

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<v Speaker 3>against the fog doug stripping electrons away and gradually carving

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<v Speaker 3>out these tiny bubbles of transparent space.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess those bubbles eventually grew.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, over hundreds of millions of years, those clear bubbles expanded,

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<v Speaker 3>they overlapped, and finally merged together to clear the entire cosmos.

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<v Speaker 2>It is just staggering to think about. I mean, the deep,

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<v Speaker 2>transparent vacuum of space we see today is actually the

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<v Speaker 2>aftermath of a billion year long radiation bombardment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the debris field of a very long war.

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<v Speaker 2>But if the cosmic fog didn't just passively dissipate, if

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<v Speaker 2>it had to be violently burned away from the inside out,

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<v Speaker 2>that means something incredibly powerful had to be doing.

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<v Speaker 3>The burning, something very bright and very energetic.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. But for a long time, the exact mechanism, the

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<v Speaker 2>specific culprits that managed to pull this off, they were

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<v Speaker 3>It's a cruel irony. The fog hid the things that

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<v Speaker 2>Astronomers couldn't see them doing it. We knew the fog

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<v Speaker 2>cleared eventually, but we didn't have the smoking gun, which

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<v Speaker 2>brings us to this recently discovered, highly unlikely little galaxy

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<v Speaker 2>that has completely changed the game.

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<v Speaker 3>This is where the narrative really shifts. Yeah, we move

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<v Speaker 3>from the theoretical mechanics of the early universe to a specific,

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<v Speaker 3>astonishing hard data observation.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's meet the cosmic underdog. It has a very catchy,

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<v Speaker 2>memorable catalog name MXDF four point four.

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<v Speaker 3>Rolls right off the tongue, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm sure someone will write a song about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But this little galaxy existed roughly one point four billion

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<v Speaker 2>years after the Big.

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<v Speaker 3>Bang, and that timing is crucial.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, because that places it right at the very tail

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<v Speaker 2>end of this transformative era of realization. It's essentially sitting

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<v Speaker 2>right at the finish line of this cosmic transition.

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<v Speaker 3>Its placement in time is exactly what makes it so

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<v Speaker 3>incredibly significant, because at one point four billion years the

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<v Speaker 3>universe was still very much a mixed bag.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean by a mixed bag?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the realization process was finishing up, sure, but there

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<v Speaker 3>were still massive intercalective clouds of opaque gas everywhere, a

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<v Speaker 3>deeply transitional.

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<v Speaker 2>Period, so totally clear yet right.

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<v Speaker 3>Which makes it the perfect laboratory to see this clearing

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<v Speaker 3>process actively happening, assuming you could find a way to

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<v Speaker 3>peer through the remaining haze to actually see the source.

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<v Speaker 2>Which we'll get to. But when I first started looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the profile of this galaxy MXTSC four point four,

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<v Speaker 2>I really struggle to wrap my head around its physical scale.

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<v Speaker 4>It's unintuitive, for sure, Yeah, because when we talk about

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<v Speaker 4>galaxies that have the power to change the universe, we

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<v Speaker 4>tend to picture these massive, sprawling, majestic spirals like our

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<v Speaker 3>Way giant pin wheels of stars exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>But to really grasp what this ancient galaxy is doing,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to realize how bizarre its proportions are. I

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you're gonna have to elaborate on that. How does

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<v Speaker 3>a twelve billion year old galaxy resemble a coffee machine?

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<v Speaker 2>Bear with me. Think of our Milky Way galaxy as

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<v Speaker 2>a massive, slow drip commercial coffee maker and giant diner. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it is huge, It takes up a lot of space.

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<v Speaker 2>It steadily reliably produces coffee all day long at a

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<v Speaker 2>very measured, manageable pace. That's our galaxy right now for me,

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<v Speaker 2>just a few new stars every single year.

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<v Speaker 3>It's calm, it's spread out, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But MXDFC four point four is like taking the motor

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<v Speaker 2>of a high powered industrial espresso machine, putting it in

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<v Speaker 2>a tiny, cramped, sealed cardboard box and running it on

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<v Speaker 2>absolute maximum overdrive until it starts shaking itself apart.

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<v Speaker 5>That is a very chaotic mental image, but it fits

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<v Speaker 5>because this newly discovered galaxy is one hundred times smaller

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<v Speaker 5>by area than our milky Way, one hundred times smaller.

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<v Speaker 3>A tiny fraction of the size, and yet.

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<v Speaker 2>In that microscopic, cramped space, it is churning out new

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<v Speaker 2>stars ten times faster than we are.

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<v Speaker 3>And taking your analogy further, it's not just an industrial

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<v Speaker 3>espresso machine in a cardboard box. The box is filled

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<v Speaker 3>with the raw material. It's full of the dense gas

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<v Speaker 3>and dust required to make those stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's completely stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>The visual of that is incredibly chaotic, and it perfectly

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<v Speaker 3>aligns with the physics. What you are describing is a

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<v Speaker 3>phenomenon that the lead researcher on this discovery ilias Gubertz

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<v Speaker 3>refers to as the crowding effect.

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<v Speaker 2>The crowding effect.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, this is the fundamental secret weapon of MXDFC four

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<v Speaker 3>point four. It isn't just that it's producing stars rapidly.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the specific aggressive nature of those stars and

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<v Speaker 3>the extreme proximity in which they are forced to exist.

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<v Speaker 2>They are completely crammed together.

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<v Speaker 3>Crammed is almost an understatement. The galaxy is forcing the

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<v Speaker 3>creation of massive, young, incredibly hot stars into a minuscule

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<v Speaker 2>So they're basically sitting on top of each other exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>And furthermore, these stars aren't forming in a steady, even

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<v Speaker 3>drip like your diner coffee maker. They form in violent, sudden.

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<v Speaker 2>Bursts, like all at once.

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<v Speaker 3>The data shows that a massive percentage of these highly

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<v Speaker 3>energetic stars formed within just the last few million years

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<v Speaker 3>of the galaxy's existence. At that point in time, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not a slow burn at all. It is an absolute

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<v Speaker 3>explosion of stellar birth.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. So you have this microscopic galaxy by cosmic standards,

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<v Speaker 2>just packed shoulder to shoulder with the hottest, most aggressive

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<v Speaker 2>type of stars possible, all igniting at it essentially the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same time and.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they are so young and incredibly massive, they are

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<v Speaker 3>burning at surface temperatures that make our sun look like

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<v Speaker 3>a dying ember.

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<v Speaker 2>Just unimaginably hot.

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<v Speaker 3>They are producing an overwhelming, blinding flood of that specific

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<v Speaker 3>high energy ionizing ultraviolet light we talked.

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<v Speaker 2>About earlier, the light that clears the fog.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, they are manufacturing the exact type of light needed

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<v Speaker 3>to strip the electrons from the neutral hydrogen and clear

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<v Speaker 3>the universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but this is where my brand hits a massive roadblock.

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<v Speaker 2>And honestly, if you're listening to this and following the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same place.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's hear the roadblock.

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<v Speaker 2>We have this cluster of ridiculously bright hot stars in

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<v Speaker 2>a very confined space that is a great power source.

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<v Speaker 2>But simply having a power source isn't enough to permanently

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<v Speaker 2>alter the fabric of the surrounding universe. True, how exactly

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<v Speaker 2>does their light manage to break out of the galaxy itself?

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<v Speaker 2>Because think about it. A galaxy that is forming stars

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<v Speaker 2>that rapidly is by definition full of the raw material

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<v Speaker 2>needed to make stars.

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<v Speaker 3>It has to be. You can't make stars without gas.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It is full of dense gas and thick cosmic dust.

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<v Speaker 2>It is choked with it.

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<v Speaker 3>That is the pivotal question. And you've just articulated the

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<v Speaker 3>exact paradox that has stumped astrophysicists for years when looking

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<v Speaker 3>at these early galaxies.

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<v Speaker 2>Because if I am standing in the middle of a thick,

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<v Speaker 2>choking cloud of campfire smoke and I turn on a

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<v Speaker 2>tremendously powerful military grade flashlight.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter how strong the.

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<v Speaker 2>Light is, exactly most of that light just hits the

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<v Speaker 2>smoke immediately in front of me and scatters. It creates

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<v Speaker 2>a bright, blinding wall of white right in my face.

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<v Speaker 3>You basically blind yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it physically cannot clear the air across the campsite.

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<v Speaker 2>The smoke absorbs and deflexs it. So how on Earth

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<v Speaker 2>does literally almost all of this ionizing light from MXDFIVEVACA

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<v Speaker 2>four point four escape the galaxy without just getting instantly

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<v Speaker 2>absorbed by the galaxy's own internal gas and dust.

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<v Speaker 3>The light shouldn't be able to leave the building.

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<v Speaker 2>It's essentially right, it should be trapped inside well.

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<v Speaker 3>Resolving that paradox brings us to what might be the

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<v Speaker 3>most dramatic and awe inspiring mechanism in all of astrophysics.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the mechanics of the Great escape.

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<v Speaker 2>The great escape.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that your intuition is entirely correct. The light

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<v Speaker 3>on its own, no matter how bright, would just be

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<v Speaker 3>swallowed by the immediate dusty environment of the galaxy, So.

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<v Speaker 2>The flesh light doesn't work on its own exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>To get the light out, you have to physically clear

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<v Speaker 3>a path. You have to move the smoke out of

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<v Speaker 3>the way.

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<v Speaker 2>And how does a galaxy move.

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<v Speaker 3>The smoke the way MXDFZ four point four moves the

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<v Speaker 3>smoke is through utter catastrophe.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's talk about the catastrophe. Yeah, what is physically

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<v Speaker 2>happening to the gas inside that little box?

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<v Speaker 3>We have to look closely at the life cycles of

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<v Speaker 3>these specific types of massive stars in the universe. There

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<v Speaker 3>is a brutal, unbreakable rule. The brightest, most massive stars

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<v Speaker 3>burn out the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fastest because they're using up their fuel so quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, a relatively calm star like our sun will live

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<v Speaker 3>for about ten billion years, slowly and steadily fusing hydrogen

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<v Speaker 3>in its core. It's very stable.

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<v Speaker 2>Slow and steady wins the race, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But the massive super hot stars being churned out in

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<v Speaker 3>these violent bursts within mxdf z four point four. They

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<v Speaker 3>are so massive and their internal gravity is crushing their

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<v Speaker 3>cores so intensely that they burn through their nuclear fuel

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<v Speaker 3>at an astonishing reckless rate.

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<v Speaker 2>How fast are we talking?

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<v Speaker 3>They live for only a few million years in cosmic terms,

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<v Speaker 3>That is the blink of an eye.

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<v Speaker 2>They are the rock stars of the universe. They live

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<v Speaker 2>fast and they die extremely young.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a perfect way to put it. And their deaths

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<v Speaker 3>are the key to the entire mystery.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens when they die?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when a star that massive inevitably runs out of fuel,

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<v Speaker 3>the outward pressure generated by nuclear fusion suddenly stalks, and

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<v Speaker 3>with out that outward pressure, the immense gravity of the

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<v Speaker 3>star causes the entire core to collapse in on itself

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<v Speaker 3>in a fraction of a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, just instant collapse.

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<v Speaker 3>This incredibly violent collapse triggers a massive rebound, a shock

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<v Speaker 3>wave of unimaginable power. They detonate a.

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<v Speaker 2>Supernovas the ultimate cosmic explosion.

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<v Speaker 3>Truly, the sheer physics of a supernova are hard to fathom.

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<v Speaker 3>The kinetic energy and radiation released in a single supernova

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<v Speaker 3>explosion is more than our sun will produce in its

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<v Speaker 3>entire ten billion year lifetime, all unleashed in a matter

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<v Speaker 3>of days.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, I can't even picture that level of energy.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, recall the crowding effect we discussed earlier. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>just have one single star doing this. You have a massive,

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<v Speaker 3>crammed cluster of these giant.

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<v Speaker 2>Stars, right because they all formed in that sudden burst exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>They were all born at roughly the same time during

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<v Speaker 3>that starburs phase, which means they are going to die

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<v Speaker 3>at roughly the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. So it's just a chain reaction of

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<v Speaker 2>detonations inside a confined space.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a relentless, catast strophic bombardment from the inside.

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<v Speaker 3>These supernovas are releasing gigantic amounts of kinetic energy and

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<v Speaker 3>extreme radiation pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>And that pressure pushes the gas.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't just push it. They are literally physically blowing

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<v Speaker 3>colossal holes through the opaque gas and dust of their

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<v Speaker 3>own galaxy. They are sweeping the raw material away, carving

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<v Speaker 3>out massive empty cavity.

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<v Speaker 2>Like blasting tunnels through a mountain.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly like that. They're essentially building structural chimneys that lead

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<v Speaker 3>from the dense, dusty core of the star cluster straight

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<v Speaker 3>out into the intergalactic medium.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me make sure I have this sequence right.

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<v Speaker 2>The first generation of these massive stars in the burst,

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<v Speaker 2>they live their short lives, they explode, and they act

434
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<v Speaker 2>as a heavy demolition crew spot on. They physically blow

435
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<v Speaker 2>away the internal fog of the galaxy, creating these clear,

436
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<v Speaker 2>empty physical pathways. And then the light from the surviving

437
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<v Speaker 2>young stars or maybe the very next immediate wave of

438
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<v Speaker 2>stars that form. Yes, that light can just shoot straight

439
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<v Speaker 2>out through those excavated chimneys, entirely unobstructed by dust or gas.

440
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<v Speaker 3>That is the exact mechanism. It's brilliant in its violence.

441
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<v Speaker 3>Researchers looking at the data for MXDFC four point four

442
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<v Speaker 3>estimate that an astonishing fifty percent to one hundred percent

443
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<v Speaker 3>of the young star's energetic ionizing light is successfully escaping

444
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<v Speaker 3>the surrounding gas of the galaxy.

445
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<v Speaker 2>I want to pause on that number, yeah, because when

446
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<v Speaker 2>you say fifty to one hundred percent, my IMDIA thought

447
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<v Speaker 2>is Okay, that's a lot. Yeah, but I don't really

448
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<v Speaker 2>have a baseline for what is normal.

449
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<v Speaker 3>The baseline is what makes that number truly shocking. What's

450
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<v Speaker 3>the baseline in a normal, present day spiral galaxy like

451
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<v Speaker 3>our Milky Way. The escape fraction for this kind of

452
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<v Speaker 3>high energy ionizing light is typically around one percent, maybe even.

453
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<v Speaker 2>Less one percent.

454
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, almost all of the high energy light produced in

455
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<v Speaker 3>our galaxy gets absorbed locally by our own gas and dust.

456
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<v Speaker 2>So to have potentially one hundred percent of that light

457
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<v Speaker 2>breaking free from MXCFC four point four, it.

458
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<v Speaker 3>Means the internal structure of that galaxy has been completely

459
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<v Speaker 3>shredded and hollowed out by the supernova.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Winds, totally excavated.

461
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<v Speaker 3>Think about how violent an environment has to be to

462
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<v Speaker 3>have literally zero internal resistance to light. It is a

463
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<v Speaker 3>perfect violent storm of intense radiation paired with explosive physical clearing.

464
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<v Speaker 2>It is the definitive escape vehicle for the light that

465
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<v Speaker 2>changed the universe. Absolutely, the very act of these massive

466
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<v Speaker 2>stars dying is what allows the light to escape and

467
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<v Speaker 2>clear the cosmic fog for the rest of the universe.

468
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<v Speaker 2>There's almost a poetic beauty to that kind of destruction.

469
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<v Speaker 3>Life from death essentially, or at least light from death.

470
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<v Speaker 2>Right But taking a step back, this also raises a

471
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<v Speaker 2>massive logistical problem for the people actually trying to study it.

472
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Definitely, the observation side is a whole other mountain

473
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<v Speaker 3>to climb.

474
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because if you're listening to this and keeping track

475
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<v Speaker 2>of the timeline, Astronomers for years assumed that observing this breakout,

476
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<v Speaker 2>observing a galaxy actively pouring this much ultraviolet light into

477
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<v Speaker 2>the early universe was completely impossible.

478
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<v Speaker 3>It was considered a lost cause for a.

479
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<v Speaker 2>Long time because by death Phinian, the universe surrounding the

480
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<v Speaker 2>galaxy at that exact time was still filled with that

481
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<v Speaker 2>neutral hydrogen fog. The indrigalactic fog should have absorbed all

482
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<v Speaker 2>the events before it ever traveled the twelve billion light

483
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<v Speaker 2>years to reach our telescopes.

484
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<v Speaker 3>A light should have never made it.

485
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<v Speaker 2>To Earth exactly, So how did humanity manage to capture

486
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<v Speaker 2>light from a time when the universe itself was actively

487
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<v Speaker 2>trying to hide it?

488
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<v Speaker 3>Well, the observation of MXDSC four point four wasn't just

489
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<v Speaker 3>a matter of pointing a big telescope at the sky

490
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<v Speaker 3>and getting lucky.

491
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<v Speaker 2>Imagine not.

492
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<v Speaker 3>It required a perfectly synchronized effort, an unprecedented astronomical tag

493
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<v Speaker 3>team between three of the most sophisticated observatories ever built

494
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<v Speaker 3>by humanity.

495
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<v Speaker 2>This is where the story feels less like traditional astronomy

496
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<v Speaker 2>and more like a high space, incredibly complex investigation.

497
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<v Speaker 3>I love that framing.

498
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you'll indulge me, I frame this for myself

499
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<v Speaker 2>as a team of highly specialized detectives working the ultimate cold.

500
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<v Speaker 3>Case, a twelve billion year old cold case.

501
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<v Speaker 2>Exactly. You have three distinct experts brought into all the crime.

502
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<v Speaker 2>You have the Hubble Space telescope, you have the James

503
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<v Speaker 2>web Space telescope, and you have the European Southern Observatory

504
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<v Speaker 2>is Very Large Telescope.

505
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<v Speaker 3>Or VLT, the heavy hitters, and.

506
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<v Speaker 2>They all played entirely different, absolutely necessary roles. So let's

507
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<v Speaker 2>start with Hubble. In my detective analogy, Hubble is the

508
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<v Speaker 2>high speed photographer who somehow manages to catch the actual

509
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<v Speaker 2>breakout of light in action.

510
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<v Speaker 3>And Hubble's ability to catch that breakout is entirely dependent

511
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<v Speaker 3>on a fundamental cosmic phenomenon called redshifting. Understanding redshifting is

512
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<v Speaker 3>crucial to understanding why observing this galaxy is a literal

513
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<v Speaker 3>miracle of physics.

514
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so if you're listening to this and wondering why

515
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<v Speaker 2>scientists don't just use standard Earth based optical telescopes to

516
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<v Speaker 2>look at these old galaxies, this is where the physics

517
00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:50.400
<v Speaker 2>of the universe gets incredibly weird.

518
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<v Speaker 3>Super weird. Let's really break down redshifting go for it.

519
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<v Speaker 3>Remember that the light escaping from MXDFC four point four,

520
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<v Speaker 3>the light doing the work of clearing the fog, is

521
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<v Speaker 3>high energy ultraviolet light.

522
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<v Speaker 2>The stuff that causes sunburns.

523
00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:07.640
<v Speaker 3>Basically right, but way more intense. If you were floating

524
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<v Speaker 3>in space right next to that galaxy one point four

525
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<v Speaker 3>billion years after the Big Bang and you had a

526
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<v Speaker 3>sensor for UV light, it would be blindingly intense. Okay,

527
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<v Speaker 3>but that specific light has to travel for over twelve

528
00:25:19.759 --> 00:25:23.200
<v Speaker 3>billion years to reach Earth, and over those twelve billion years,

529
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<v Speaker 3>the universe is not a static empty room because.

530
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<v Speaker 2>The universe itself is physically expanding.

531
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<v Speaker 3>Exactly, and as the fabric of space stretches, the waves

532
00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:34.119
<v Speaker 3>of light traveling through that space get physically stretched along

533
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<v Speaker 3>with it.

534
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<v Speaker 2>Wait, the actual light wave stretch.

535
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<v Speaker 3>The actual waves.

536
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

537
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<v Speaker 3>The classic way to visualize this is drawing a wavy

538
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<v Speaker 3>line on a rubber band and then pulling the ends

539
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<v Speaker 3>of the rubber band. Ah Okay, the waves get longer

540
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<v Speaker 3>and more drawn out as the band stretches.

541
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<v Speaker 2>Precisely the peaks and valleys of the light wave get

542
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<v Speaker 2>further and further apart.

543
00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:52.839
<v Speaker 3>And why does that matter.

544
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<v Speaker 2>Well, in the electromagnetic spectrum, the distance between those peaks

545
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<v Speaker 2>the wavelength determines both the color and the energy of

546
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<v Speaker 2>the light.

547
00:26:00.680 --> 00:26:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So a shorter wave is one color, a longer

548
00:26:03.640 --> 00:26:04.920
<v Speaker 3>wave is another, right.

549
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:09.039
<v Speaker 2>And a longer wavelength means lower energy. So, over its

550
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:14.079
<v Speaker 2>twelve billion year journey through expanding space, that incredibly tight

551
00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:18.440
<v Speaker 2>energetic ultraviolet wave gets stretched so much that it actually

552
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<v Speaker 2>shifts out of the ultraviolet spectrum entirely.

553
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:22.079
<v Speaker 3>It changes completely, it does.

554
00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:24.400
<v Speaker 2>By the time it finally hits the mirrors of our

555
00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:27.319
<v Speaker 2>telescopes today, it has been stretched all the way into

556
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<v Speaker 2>the visible light spectrum.

557
00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:31.559
<v Speaker 3>The exact light we can see with our own eyes exactly.

558
00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:34.880
<v Speaker 3>That is genuinely mind bending. The light started as invisible

559
00:26:35.000 --> 00:26:38.480
<v Speaker 3>high energy UV rode the physical expansion of the universe

560
00:26:38.559 --> 00:26:42.799
<v Speaker 3>like a massive cosmic conveyor belt and stretched into visible colors.

561
00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:45.359
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the most elegant quarks of our universe.

562
00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:48.359
<v Speaker 2>And this is precisely why Hubble was the only tool

563
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<v Speaker 2>for the job to see it right.

564
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, Hubble is perfectly optimized to see invisible and near

565
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<v Speaker 3>ultraviolet light. But it's not just the wavelength coverage that

566
00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:03.359
<v Speaker 3>matters here. It is Bubble's space based location, its sensitivity,

567
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:06.279
<v Speaker 3>and its unbelievable optical resolution.

568
00:27:06.039 --> 00:27:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Because it's so tiny and so far away.

569
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Right, looking at a tiny, cramped galaxy that is twelve

570
00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:18.799
<v Speaker 3>billion light years away requires incredibly long, deep exposures. Hubble

571
00:27:18.880 --> 00:27:22.960
<v Speaker 3>literally stared at this specific patch of sky for immense periods,

572
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.960
<v Speaker 3>gathering ancient photons one by one from several existing deep

573
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<v Speaker 3>field surveys.

574
00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:29.559
<v Speaker 2>So it just slowly built up the picture.

575
00:27:29.759 --> 00:27:32.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was the only instrument capable of resolving the

576
00:27:32.359 --> 00:27:35.880
<v Speaker 3>specific source of that incredibly faint red shifted light and

577
00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:38.359
<v Speaker 3>physically proving that it was coming directly from the tight

578
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:40.599
<v Speaker 3>clusters of young stars inside that galaxy.

579
00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.680
<v Speaker 2>So Hubble gets the picture. It proves the light as escaping.

580
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:46.880
<v Speaker 2>But if Hubble is the photographer, the James Web Space

581
00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Telescope is the psychological profiler. That's a good way to

582
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.720
<v Speaker 2>put it, because Mark Riffelski, a co author on this study,

583
00:27:53.079 --> 00:27:57.319
<v Speaker 2>explicitly noted that without Web, the Hubble data would essentially

584
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<v Speaker 2>be useless.

585
00:27:58.559 --> 00:28:01.839
<v Speaker 3>Useless is a strong word, but in this context it's accurate.

586
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:05.759
<v Speaker 2>But why is that? If Hubble already saw the light escaping.

587
00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Why did we need Web to step in and look

588
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:10.519
<v Speaker 2>at the exact same galaxy? What was missing?

589
00:28:10.920 --> 00:28:13.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, seeing the light escaping doesn't tell you the whole

590
00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:16.839
<v Speaker 3>story of the galaxy that produced it. You need environmental context.

591
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:19.359
<v Speaker 3>You need to know the specific conditions that allowed that

592
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:19.920
<v Speaker 3>light to.

593
00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 2>Escape, like the state of the smoke in the room exactly.

594
00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Hubble is fantastic for visible light, but as we discussed,

595
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:31.400
<v Speaker 3>these heavily active star forming galaxies are absolutely full of dust,

596
00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:34.759
<v Speaker 3>and cosmic dust notoriously blocks visible light.

597
00:28:34.880 --> 00:28:37.160
<v Speaker 2>It obscures the internal structure completely.

598
00:28:37.559 --> 00:28:40.079
<v Speaker 3>To really see what the galaxy looks like inside, to

599
00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:42.880
<v Speaker 3>weigh its total mass, and to map out its entire

600
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:45.720
<v Speaker 3>history of star formation, you have to find a way

601
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<v Speaker 3>to look straight through the dust.

602
00:28:47.279 --> 00:28:49.400
<v Speaker 2>And that is Web's ultimate superpower.

603
00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:53.200
<v Speaker 3>It is Web operates primarily in the near infrared and

604
00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:57.400
<v Speaker 3>mid infrared spectrum. Infrared light has a much longer wavelength

605
00:28:57.440 --> 00:28:58.279
<v Speaker 3>than visible.

606
00:28:58.039 --> 00:28:59.759
<v Speaker 2>Light, which means it behaves differently.

607
00:29:00.200 --> 00:29:02.519
<v Speaker 3>It allows the light to slip right around and through

608
00:29:02.599 --> 00:29:05.960
<v Speaker 3>thick clouds of cosmic dusts that would otherwise be completely

609
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:08.079
<v Speaker 3>impenetrable to a telescope like Hubble.

610
00:29:08.240 --> 00:29:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Wow, it's basically X ray vision for dust.

611
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 3>Essentially. Yeah, So Webb looked at the exact same tiny

612
00:29:14.160 --> 00:29:16.960
<v Speaker 3>galaxy and was able to determine the total mass of

613
00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 3>the structure. But more importantly, it was able to look

614
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:24.480
<v Speaker 3>at the older generations of stars that Hubble couldn't clearly

615
00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:25.960
<v Speaker 3>define because they were hidden.

616
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Ah So Web analyzes the suspects. It looks at the

617
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:33.079
<v Speaker 2>entire population of the galaxy, not just the bright young ones.

618
00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:35.559
<v Speaker 3>And that WEB data was the absolute nail in the

619
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:38.720
<v Speaker 3>coffin for determining the mechanism of the great escape. Howso,

620
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:42.960
<v Speaker 3>by analyzing the infrared data, Web proved that the older

621
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<v Speaker 3>stars in MXDSC four point four were significantly cooler and

622
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:49.400
<v Speaker 3>less massive than the new burst.

623
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:51.119
<v Speaker 2>They were just two weak exactly.

624
00:29:51.720 --> 00:29:55.519
<v Speaker 3>It definitively proved that these older populations were totally incapable

625
00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:58.160
<v Speaker 3>of producing the energy required to blow away the gas

626
00:29:58.240 --> 00:29:59.920
<v Speaker 3>or ionize the surrounding universe.

627
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:00.920
<v Speaker 2>They didn't have the muscle.

628
00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:05.079
<v Speaker 3>By mathematically ruling out the older stars, Webb confirmed that

629
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<v Speaker 3>the recent violent bursts of massive young stars, the ones

630
00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Hubble caught, were the sole culprits responsible.

631
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<v Speaker 2>It mapped the star formation history and proved the bursting

632
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:16.799
<v Speaker 2>explosive nature of the galaxy.

633
00:30:16.920 --> 00:30:18.759
<v Speaker 3>It gave us the motive and the means.

634
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<v Speaker 2>The synergy between the two space telescopes is incredible. Hubble

635
00:30:22.759 --> 00:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>sees the smoke clearing and Web looks through the walls

636
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:27.960
<v Speaker 2>to prove exactly who planted the dynamite.

637
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:29.720
<v Speaker 3>It really is a perfect partnership.

638
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:32.279
<v Speaker 2>But we have one more detective on the team, and

639
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>their role is just as vital. The European Southern Observatory's

640
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Very Large Telescope, specifically the Meuse Instrument, the VLT. I

641
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:44.799
<v Speaker 2>call the VLT the forensic accountant because it didn't just

642
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.880
<v Speaker 2>look at the galaxy. It pinpointed the exact, undeniable timeline

643
00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>of the crime.

644
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:53.079
<v Speaker 3>And precision is everything in cosmology, it really is. If

645
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:56.200
<v Speaker 3>you don't know exactly when an event happened, you can't

646
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:59.039
<v Speaker 3>place it in the sequence of the universe's evolution. You're

647
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:00.440
<v Speaker 3>just guessing, right.

648
00:31:00.920 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 2>And the VLT is a massive ground based facility in Chile,

649
00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:09.519
<v Speaker 2>but the MUSE instrument attached to it is an incredibly

650
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<v Speaker 2>powerful spectrograph operating in visible light.

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<v Speaker 3>The spectrograph is the key here, So.

652
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<v Speaker 2>Let's spend a minute on how a spectrograph actually works.

653
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<v Speaker 2>Because it's essentially the most important tool in astronomy, right.

654
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<v Speaker 3>Oh, absolutely, we'd be blind without them.

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<v Speaker 2>From my understanding, a spectrograph takes the incoming light from

656
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<v Speaker 2>that distant galaxy and physically breaks it apart into its

657
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<v Speaker 2>component colors, like a highly advanced, incredibly precise prism.

658
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<v Speaker 3>That's a perfect description. And breaking the light apart allows

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<v Speaker 3>you to look at the quantum fingerprints of the galaxy.

660
00:31:40.279 --> 00:31:41.839
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean by quantum fingerprints.

661
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, when you spread the light out into a spectrum,

662
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<v Speaker 3>you don't just see a smooth rainbow of colors. You

663
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<v Speaker 3>see these tiny dark gaps in the colors.

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<v Speaker 2>Like missing slices.

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00:31:50.799 --> 00:31:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Right. These are called absorption lines different chemical elements in

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<v Speaker 3>the universe, like hydrogen, helium, or carbon. They absorb very specific,

667
00:31:58.680 --> 00:31:59.960
<v Speaker 3>exact wavelengths of light.

668
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:01.799
<v Speaker 2>So when the light travels through.

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<v Speaker 3>The gas, exactly when light passes through the gas of

670
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<v Speaker 3>a galaxy, the elements in that gas steal those specific colors,

671
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<v Speaker 3>leaving dark gaps in the spectrum that reaches our telescopes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a barcode. Every element has a unique barcode

673
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<v Speaker 2>of dark lines.

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<v Speaker 3>It is exactly like a barcode, and we know exactly

675
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<v Speaker 3>where those dark lines should be for a specific element

676
00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 3>if it were sitting in a laboratory here on Earth.

677
00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:29.720
<v Speaker 3>But remember red shifting. Because the light from MXDFC four

678
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<v Speaker 3>point four has been stretched by the expansion of the

679
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<v Speaker 3>universe for twelve billion years, that entire barcode is shifted

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<v Speaker 3>toward the red end of the spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I see, so the whole barcode slides over. And

682
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<v Speaker 2>they just measured exactly how much the barcode had been stretched.

683
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<v Speaker 3>Precisely by looking at those specific absorption lines, the MUSC

684
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<v Speaker 3>instrument could calculate the exact mathematical degree of the red shift.

685
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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

686
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:54.039
<v Speaker 3>And by knowing precisely how much the light had stretched,

687
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<v Speaker 3>they could plug that into our models of cosmic expansion

688
00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 3>and calculate exactly how long the light had been traveling.

689
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<v Speaker 2>Brilliant.

690
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<v Speaker 3>This is how they pinpointed the exact age of MXDFC

691
00:33:04.079 --> 00:33:07.839
<v Speaker 3>four point four at one point four billion years post.

692
00:33:07.519 --> 00:33:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Big Bang down to the decimal. Yeah.

693
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<v Speaker 3>Without that highly specific timestamp from the VLT, we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>know exactly where this little galaxy fits into the timeline

695
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<v Speaker 3>of the era of realization. For all we knew, it

696
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<v Speaker 3>could have been from a time when the fog was

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<v Speaker 3>already cleared.

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<v Speaker 2>It truly is a masterpiece of technological coordination. I mean,

699
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<v Speaker 2>you have a telescope launched in the nineteen.

700
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Nineties Hubble still going strong.

701
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:34.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a brand new infrared powerhouse parked a million miles

702
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:37.160
<v Speaker 2>away from Earth, and a massive ground based array in

703
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:41.599
<v Speaker 2>the Chilean Desert, all combining their unique, highly specialized data

704
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 2>streams to build a single, undeniable picture of an event

705
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<v Speaker 2>that happened twelve billion years ago.

706
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<v Speaker 3>It gives you goosebumps when you really think about.

707
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:51.599
<v Speaker 2>It, It really does. But this rais is a really

708
00:33:51.640 --> 00:33:53.640
<v Speaker 2>important question, and I think it's where we need to

709
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<v Speaker 2>look at how this reshapes our understanding of the whole universe.

710
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:57.799
<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's look at the big picture.

711
00:33:58.160 --> 00:34:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Because this massive, unprecedented effort yielded a single, spectacular observation

712
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:08.719
<v Speaker 2>of one tiny galaxy, why is this one little underdog

713
00:34:09.119 --> 00:34:12.239
<v Speaker 2>causing such a massive paradigm shift in how we understand

714
00:34:12.239 --> 00:34:13.119
<v Speaker 2>the cosmos?

715
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:17.559
<v Speaker 3>Well, in the field of cosmology, single concrete data points

716
00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 3>from that far back in time are incredibly rare, really

717
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.320
<v Speaker 3>just hard to find, very hard. They are the structural

718
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 3>anchors that hold our massive theoretical models in reality. You see,

719
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:32.360
<v Speaker 3>prior to the discovery and deep analysis of MXDFC four

720
00:34:32.400 --> 00:34:35.880
<v Speaker 3>point four, the cosmic map of the realization era was

721
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:38.679
<v Speaker 3>largely drawn using statistical assumptions.

722
00:34:38.880 --> 00:34:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Okay, when you say statistical assumptions, what do you actually mean.

723
00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Are astrophysicists just making highly educated guesses.

724
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.079
<v Speaker 3>It is a bit more rigorous than a guess, but essentially, yes,

725
00:34:48.239 --> 00:34:50.880
<v Speaker 3>far enough. Researchers have been trying to understand this era

726
00:34:51.039 --> 00:34:54.880
<v Speaker 3>for decades. But because these early galaxies are so impossibly

727
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:58.679
<v Speaker 3>distant and faint, they simply couldn't observe the mechanics directly.

728
00:34:58.880 --> 00:34:59.719
<v Speaker 2>The fog hid them.

729
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 3>So what is the alternative. You look at star populations

730
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.639
<v Speaker 3>in nearby galaxies, galaxies that are close enough to observe

731
00:35:06.679 --> 00:35:09.280
<v Speaker 3>in great detail, and you use the statistics of how

732
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:10.039
<v Speaker 3>they behave.

733
00:35:09.960 --> 00:35:13.000
<v Speaker 2>Like how rapidly they form stars, how their internal gas moves,

734
00:35:13.039 --> 00:35:13.480
<v Speaker 2>that sort.

735
00:35:13.360 --> 00:35:16.679
<v Speaker 3>Of thing exactly. You take those modern observations and use

736
00:35:16.760 --> 00:35:19.320
<v Speaker 3>them to make well informed assumptions about what must have

737
00:35:19.360 --> 00:35:20.840
<v Speaker 3>been happening in the early universe.

738
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Ah, so you extrapolate backward. You say, if physics works

739
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:26.440
<v Speaker 2>like this here and now in this specific type of

740
00:35:26.440 --> 00:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>star cluster, it probably works somewhat like this twelve billion

741
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:30.480
<v Speaker 2>years ago.

742
00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:34.239
<v Speaker 3>That is the foundation of the theoretical models. But a

743
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:37.760
<v Speaker 3>model is always an assumption until you find hard empirical

744
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:38.880
<v Speaker 3>evidence to back it up.

745
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:40.440
<v Speaker 2>You need proof, You need proof.

746
00:35:40.920 --> 00:35:44.559
<v Speaker 3>Before MXDFC four point four, researchers had only ever found

747
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:48.199
<v Speaker 3>one single galaxy emitting ionized light from one point six

748
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:51.199
<v Speaker 3>billion years ago, just one, just one, and maybe a

749
00:35:51.199 --> 00:35:54.159
<v Speaker 3>few scattered examples from around two billion years ago, which

750
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.159
<v Speaker 3>is a point in time when the cosmic fog was

751
00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:57.960
<v Speaker 3>mostly already cleared anyway.

752
00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.960
<v Speaker 2>So they didn't really help explain the clearing process.

753
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 3>That's right, MXDFC four point four, sitting right at the

754
00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.920
<v Speaker 3>critical juncture of one point four billion years provides clear,

755
00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:11.280
<v Speaker 3>undeniable proof of extreme ionizing light escaping. It completely anchors

756
00:36:11.320 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 3>those theoretical models.

757
00:36:12.559 --> 00:36:15.840
<v Speaker 2>It proves that the assumed mechanics actually existed in reality.

758
00:36:15.960 --> 00:36:18.199
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it takes it out of the realm of simulation

759
00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:19.639
<v Speaker 3>and into the realm of fact.

760
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Now I want to play skeptic here for the listener,

761
00:36:22.400 --> 00:36:25.280
<v Speaker 2>because there is a seeming contradiction in the timeline of

762
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 2>recent astronomical discoveries that I need you to clear up. Okay,

763
00:36:29.000 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 2>laying on me in twenty twenty three. Just recently, there

764
00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:36.119
<v Speaker 2>were massive headlines globally because the James Web space telescopes

765
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 2>looked incredibly far back and proved that galaxies had stars

766
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.400
<v Speaker 2>emitting enough light to heat and ionized gas just nine

767
00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:46.280
<v Speaker 2>hundred million years after the Big Bang.

768
00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:48.159
<v Speaker 3>That was a huge moment, Yes, right.

769
00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 2>But that is half a billion years older than our

770
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:54.800
<v Speaker 2>little underdog galaxy. If we already knew from Web in

771
00:36:54.880 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three that galaxies had the power to do

772
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.360
<v Speaker 2>this back, then, why is this one point four billion

773
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.679
<v Speaker 2>year old galaxy the big missing puzzle piece.

774
00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:04.159
<v Speaker 3>It's a very fair point to raise.

775
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:06.679
<v Speaker 2>Didn't Web already solve the mystery of reionization.

776
00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:10.320
<v Speaker 3>Distinguishing between those two discoveries cuts to the very heart

777
00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 3>of how science actually progresses. It is the fundamental difference

778
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:17.199
<v Speaker 3>between having the potential to do something and actually executing

779
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:17.960
<v Speaker 3>on that potential.

780
00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Break that down force. What did the twenty twenty three

781
00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:21.360
<v Speaker 2>discovery actually tell us.

782
00:37:21.599 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 3>The twenty twenty three breakthrough with Web was absolutely monumental,

783
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 3>no doubt, looking back to nine hundred million years and

784
00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.760
<v Speaker 3>seeing the light from those incredibly early galaxies was a

785
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:32.920
<v Speaker 3>triumph of engineering.

786
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:34.239
<v Speaker 2>Roqu records it did.

787
00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.280
<v Speaker 3>What WEB proved in twenty twenty three was that the

788
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 3>sheer volume of high energy light existed in the early universe.

789
00:37:41.639 --> 00:37:44.519
<v Speaker 3>It proved that the universe was manufacturing the right kind

790
00:37:44.519 --> 00:37:45.159
<v Speaker 3>of ammunition.

791
00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:48.599
<v Speaker 2>The stars were burning hot enough and bright enough to

792
00:37:48.679 --> 00:37:51.320
<v Speaker 2>potentially clear the neutral hydrogen fogs.

793
00:37:51.400 --> 00:37:55.880
<v Speaker 3>Yes, they had the power source, they possessed the required energy. However,

794
00:37:56.000 --> 00:37:59.360
<v Speaker 3>there's always a however there is. However, what that twenty

795
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 3>twenty three ARE observation completely failed to explain was the

796
00:38:02.960 --> 00:38:06.360
<v Speaker 3>mechanism of escape. It showed the light was being created

797
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:08.840
<v Speaker 3>deep inside the galaxies, but it couldn't show how that

798
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:12.159
<v Speaker 3>light survived long enough to escape the thick choking gas

799
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:14.800
<v Speaker 3>of the galaxy itself to reach the intergalactic fog.

800
00:38:15.000 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh Man. So, returning to the flashlight in the campfire

801
00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:21.239
<v Speaker 2>smoke analogy, the twenty twenty three WEB observation proved the

802
00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:24.519
<v Speaker 2>flashlight was turned on exactly, It did not prove how

803
00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:26.239
<v Speaker 2>the light got out of the smoke to clear the

804
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:27.039
<v Speaker 2>rest of the forest.

805
00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 3>That is exactly right. We knew the engines were running

806
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:32.760
<v Speaker 3>inside the factory, but we didn't know how the exhaust

807
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 3>was getting out of the building.

808
00:38:33.960 --> 00:38:34.920
<v Speaker 2>That makes perfect sense.

809
00:38:35.159 --> 00:38:39.159
<v Speaker 3>MXDSZ four point four is the first concrete, undeniable proof

810
00:38:39.239 --> 00:38:40.000
<v Speaker 3>of the mechanism.

811
00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 2>It is the how by combining of the Hubble data

812
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.800
<v Speaker 2>showing the escaping light with the web data showing the

813
00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>bursting nature of the star formation.

814
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:51.119
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it proves that the mechanism of escape is violence.

815
00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:55.280
<v Speaker 3>It proves that bursting crammed star formations and the resulting

816
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:59.840
<v Speaker 3>catastrophic supernovas act as the physical escape vehicle for this light.

817
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:03.119
<v Speaker 2>It validates the entire working theory of how the universe

818
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>cleared its throat, so to speak.

819
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:08.199
<v Speaker 3>The twenty twenty three data showed the what. MXDSC four

820
00:39:08.280 --> 00:39:11.679
<v Speaker 3>point four proves the how, and in the scientific method,

821
00:39:11.800 --> 00:39:14.280
<v Speaker 3>proving the how is what actually rewrites the textbooks.

822
00:39:14.480 --> 00:39:16.760
<v Speaker 2>It takes the theory out of the realm of statistical

823
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.079
<v Speaker 2>assumption and grounds it firmly in observable mechanical reality.

824
00:39:21.159 --> 00:39:23.119
<v Speaker 3>You couldn't ask for a better piece of evidence.

825
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:26.119
<v Speaker 2>So where do we go from here? If this single

826
00:39:26.199 --> 00:39:28.800
<v Speaker 2>galaxy is the Rosetta stone that proves how the fog

827
00:39:28.920 --> 00:39:33.360
<v Speaker 2>was lifted, what is the roadmap forward for the astronomical community.

828
00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:35.079
<v Speaker 3>Well, we don't just stop looking.

829
00:39:35.119 --> 00:39:38.159
<v Speaker 2>Do we just start scanning the sky hoping to trip

830
00:39:38.199 --> 00:39:41.119
<v Speaker 2>over more of these little hyperactive espresso machines.

831
00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:44.840
<v Speaker 3>It will be a highly targeted, deliberate search because the

832
00:39:44.880 --> 00:39:48.960
<v Speaker 3>discovery of MXDFC four point four proves that these objects

833
00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.960
<v Speaker 3>exist and crucially that our current instruments are capable of

834
00:39:52.960 --> 00:39:55.760
<v Speaker 3>finding them if we know where and how to look.

835
00:39:55.920 --> 00:39:59.760
<v Speaker 2>So the immediate future outlook involves aggressively searching for more

836
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:03.960
<v Speaker 2>gas galaxies that share these specific characteristics. Precisely, our research

837
00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:06.440
<v Speaker 2>is going to try to look even further back in time,

838
00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:07.960
<v Speaker 2>deeper into the dark ages.

839
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Interestingly, the strategy outlined by the researchers is to actually

840
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:15.320
<v Speaker 3>find more of these galaxies at slightly later cosmic times.

841
00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:17.679
<v Speaker 2>Wait really, why later? Yeah, wouldn't we want to look

842
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:20.039
<v Speaker 2>deeper into the fog to see the very beginning of

843
00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:20.599
<v Speaker 2>the process.

844
00:40:20.760 --> 00:40:23.159
<v Speaker 3>You would think so, But it's a matter of practicality,

845
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 3>sample size, and signal strength. By looking at slightly later

846
00:40:26.679 --> 00:40:30.960
<v Speaker 3>cosmic times, say moving from one point four billion years

847
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:34.639
<v Speaker 3>toward two billion years, the galaxies are slightly closer.

848
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:37.119
<v Speaker 2>To us, which means their light is slightly less red.

849
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:40.440
<v Speaker 3>Shifted exactly, and they are significantly easier to detect with

850
00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:43.679
<v Speaker 3>high fidelity. The overarching goal right now is to build

851
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:47.519
<v Speaker 3>a larger statistical sample size of concrete data.

852
00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Because we don't want to base our entire understanding of

853
00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:54.239
<v Speaker 2>cosmic evolution on one single galaxy, no matter how spectacular

854
00:40:54.280 --> 00:40:55.199
<v Speaker 2>and insightful it is.

855
00:40:55.400 --> 00:40:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Right, you need a pattern, not just an anomaly. By

856
00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:01.679
<v Speaker 3>finding ten or fifty or a hundred of these bursting

857
00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:06.239
<v Speaker 3>fog clearing galaxies at various stages of the late reionization era,

858
00:41:06.760 --> 00:41:09.159
<v Speaker 3>researchers can drastically refine their measurements.

859
00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:12.239
<v Speaker 2>They can start to see if this violent supernova driven

860
00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:14.159
<v Speaker 2>clearing is the only way it happens, or if it's

861
00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:16.920
<v Speaker 2>just one of many different ways the universe became transparent.

862
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:19.760
<v Speaker 3>They can figure out exactly what percentage of the cosmic

863
00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:24.119
<v Speaker 3>fog was cleared by these violent little underdogs versus larger,

864
00:41:24.239 --> 00:41:27.159
<v Speaker 3>more stable galaxies that might have different escape mechanisms.

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<v Speaker 2>Gathering a large sample size allows them to finally draw firm,

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<v Speaker 2>unquestionable conclusions about the exact timeline, the dominant mechanisms, and

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<v Speaker 2>the definitive end of the era of realization.

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<v Speaker 3>It transitions the field from an era of incredible singular

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<v Speaker 3>discoveries into an era of precision mapping and comprehensive understanding.

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<v Speaker 2>It is truly staggering to step back and look at

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<v Speaker 2>the sheer scope of what we've discussed today.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot to take in.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. We started by picturing a universe completely choked

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<v Speaker 2>by an opaque, murky fog of neutral hydrogen gas, a

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<v Speaker 2>universe where high energy light was constantly trapped, scattered, and

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<v Speaker 2>destroyed before it could travel any meaningful.

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<v Speaker 3>Distance, a very dark place.

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<v Speaker 2>And we watched as a tiny, hyperactive, chaotic galaxy managed

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<v Speaker 2>to fight back against that darkness. It didn't fight back

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<v Speaker 2>with steady, calm, reliable light, but with violent birthing generations

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<v Speaker 2>of massive stars that lived incredibly short lives and died

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<v Speaker 2>in catastrophic supernova explosions.

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<v Speaker 3>Literally blowing physical holes through the dense cosmic dust.

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<v Speaker 2>Carving out clearings for their light to finally escape. And

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<v Speaker 2>all of this complex cosmic machinery was only revealed to

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<v Speaker 2>us because three of the most advanced pieces of technology

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<v Speaker 2>in human history, hubble Web and the VLT worked together

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<v Speaker 2>in perfect synergy.

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<v Speaker 3>To catch the stretched, exhausted light of that ancient battle.

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<v Speaker 3>Twelve billion years later.

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<v Speaker 2>It stands as a testament to both the sheer terrifying

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<v Speaker 2>power of the natural universe and the relentless collaborative ingenuity

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<v Speaker 2>of human curiosity.

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<v Speaker 3>We are essentially doing forensic archaeology on the scale of

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<v Speaker 3>the cosmos, piecing together our own origins from the faintest

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<v Speaker 3>whispers of light.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to leave you with a final thought to

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<v Speaker 2>mull over today, something that really struck a chord with

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<v Speaker 2>me as we were piecing all of this together. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we started by asking you to look up at the

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<v Speaker 2>clear ninth sky. We revel in that transparency. We build

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<v Speaker 2>our telescopes, we map the constellations, we search for other

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<v Speaker 2>habitable worlds, all because we have the immense privilege of

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<v Speaker 2>a clear view into the deep cosmos.

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<v Speaker 3>It's something we completely take for granted.

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<v Speaker 2>Completely, but when you truly look at the mechanics of

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<v Speaker 2>how that clear view is achieved, it fundamentally changes how

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the stars. The very mechanism that cleared

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<v Speaker 2>the cosmic fog, the exact physical process that made the

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<v Speaker 2>universe transparent and allowed light to travel freely to our eyes,

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<v Speaker 2>was the violent explosive death of its earliest most massive stars.

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<v Speaker 3>The supernovas were the key to our site.

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<v Speaker 2>The ultimate destruction of those ancient giants was physically required

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<v Speaker 2>to blow away the fog, which means that the clear,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful night sky you look up at today, the pristine

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<v Speaker 2>window that gives humanity our place in the cosmos, is

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<v Speaker 2>essentially built upon the explosive graveyard of the universe's first inhabitants.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, that's heavy.

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<v Speaker 2>Our ability to see the universe at all was bought

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<v Speaker 2>entirely by their violent destruction. Keep looking up and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>catch it next time.
