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Speaker 2: of the games of the week. We don't always do this,
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Speaker 3: It's those Kansas City Chiefs, those Indiana Joneses right there
Speaker 3: in Kansas City. Now preseason Lion on this Vegas eded
Speaker 3: at Kansas City minus nine and a half.
Speaker 2: They missed it by that much, three and a half.
Speaker 2: We're sitting juice three and a half. Looks like moving
Speaker 2: to forest money coming in.
Speaker 3: We'll see. I didn't really see that coming. This money
Speaker 3: is a late shift. I don't really care for that.
Speaker 3: But Longhan, when you got on this game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is funny. This says the game of the week,
Speaker 4: no doubt about it. Or one of the games of
Speaker 4: the week. And I don't feel I hate this game
Speaker 4: like on a handicap because I don't necessarily agree with
Speaker 4: the line move from three to three and a half
Speaker 4: and even maybe touching some fours. But I can.
Speaker 2: Stumping it four and a half and immediately got bought down.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's still some threes out there.
Speaker 4: But so so it's doing the tug of war. It's
Speaker 4: doing the tug of war thing, and I'm gonna kind
Speaker 4: of let that let the line decide which way I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go in this. So you know, if you've got
Speaker 4: lines that are locked in on a contest, if it's
Speaker 4: at three and it's locked in, I'm gonna lean to
Speaker 4: Kansas City at that number. Anything over three. Even though
Speaker 4: it feels like I'm walking into the most public dog
Speaker 4: trap of the week. This feels like just the worst
Speaker 4: trap ever. But the fact that it's that it's bounced
Speaker 4: up and bounced down tells me that there's there's sharps
Speaker 4: and public on both sides here, So that makes you
Speaker 4: feel a little bit better.
Speaker 3: There's definitely problem moneies on both sides of this game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I guess long story short, I don't have
Speaker 4: a strong feeling either way. I'm gonna take that since
Speaker 4: you said the line was officially three and a half,
Speaker 4: that would put me on Indy in this game. But
Speaker 4: I will just say, you know, three weeks ago, you know,
Speaker 4: three weeks ago, case was thought like, Okay, they're doing
Speaker 4: it again. They're on their they're steamrolling, They're back to
Speaker 4: what they were. You think they can't get back to
Speaker 4: that again in the next couple of weeks and get right.
Speaker 3: Back to that.
Speaker 2: I've been thinking about this just because it's the game.
Speaker 2: I paid a lot attention this week, and I remember
Speaker 2: when Pachako went out, You're like, oh, he wouldn't play
Speaker 2: that well anyway, But dude, he is such a key
Speaker 2: part to that offense. Just the little things that he
Speaker 2: does in the passing game, the third down.
Speaker 3: They missed that so fucking badly with.
Speaker 2: Him because Kareem Hunt. He is what he is, man,
Speaker 2: He's four yards of cloud. He does he's great around
Speaker 2: the goal line. But that Pachako a piece of that offense.
Speaker 2: When he since because they were rolling and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, because he didn't start the year healthy
Speaker 2: right and they didn't start good, then he comes back,
Speaker 2: they're rolling, he goes back out and then immediately they
Speaker 2: go right back to fucking bullshit. So it's like, I
Speaker 2: think they gets you're part of the offense, and his
Speaker 2: stats say it reminds me of remember when Brady always
Speaker 2: had that third down scatback, that Dion Lewis dude that
Speaker 2: nobody ever fucking talked about, but it was such a
Speaker 2: key element to that offense. It was that really when
Speaker 2: you needed that nut crunch and play, that was always
Speaker 2: Brady's little outlet, right.
Speaker 4: It's always well, Mahomes has had that. Mahomes has had
Speaker 4: that period of times where he hasn't really had a
Speaker 4: great person, but there's always been there'd be like a
Speaker 4: guy that emerges, you know eventually, and just to that point,
Speaker 4: they've been wanting that to be the Branden Smith or
Speaker 4: I don't care, Brichard Smith whatever his first name is,
Speaker 4: the rookie out of SMU. They've been trying to like
Speaker 4: get him implemented more and more into that offense. And
Speaker 4: we saw he did at SMU lest year. He was
Speaker 4: a very explosive player. But it's just not translating to
Speaker 4: the NFL, at least early on in his rookie career.
Speaker 4: Maybe there's something to that, you know that we know
Speaker 4: with the trade deadline or I'm assuming it's it's well
Speaker 4: known that they tried to get Brice Hall from the Jets.
Speaker 4: Jets were doing a fire sale. Obviously, Jets demanded a
Speaker 4: third round pick, case offered a fourth. To me, when
Speaker 4: you're in this window, why just just give him the
Speaker 4: three and get the fucking I mean, Brice Hall is like,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know if he's elite, but he's
Speaker 4: certainly a million times better than anything that they have
Speaker 4: very and he could be. Yeah. So like, I think
Speaker 4: that was a mistake by Kansas City by not pulling
Speaker 4: that trigger and being stingy. I think. But but as
Speaker 4: we've learned, usually long term, you know, if you if
Speaker 4: you play close to the best, that's usually the best
Speaker 4: best way to go. But anyways, back on this game,
Speaker 4: you may be right. This just feels like Mahome's coming
Speaker 4: off of a loss. Go back, going back home. Man,
Speaker 4: I got a hard time and it's still Daniel Jones
Speaker 4: on the road against Patrick Mahomes. This one's this one
Speaker 4: is like I'm having a talk just like the Lions
Speaker 4: having talking war. I'm having a tuging war inside my
Speaker 4: own brain, and I have not necessarily pulled the true
Speaker 4: heavily on either either way. Like I said, if it's
Speaker 4: at three in any kind of contest, I'm gonna lean
Speaker 4: towards Casey. Anything over three, I'm gonna play. I'mna play
Speaker 4: the Colts and hope the damn Jones doesn't turn into
Speaker 4: a pumpkin against against Mahomes and just see. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I can't wait to watch it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I just had to make a decision of
Speaker 3: this game, and I made one. And I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: either gonna be really really right of this game or
Speaker 3: fucking really wrong. I like Indy here, and I like
Speaker 3: the under, and I.
Speaker 2: Know it's not the spot public Dog and Casey coming
Speaker 2: on everything you said. But the reason why I like
Speaker 2: Indy here is really because I like the under so much.
Speaker 2: Both these quarterbacks do not grade out well.
Speaker 3: Versus either one of these defenses.
Speaker 2: Both these running games do not grade out well versus
Speaker 2: either one of these defenses.
Speaker 3: So if you're telling me it's a lower scoring game,
Speaker 3: you know you're always gonna like the Dog there.
Speaker 4: But Checko's questionable, by the way, so he might play.
Speaker 2: I've got Indy overall winning twenty four to twenty three.
Speaker 2: I could easily see him being twenty three to twenty one,
Speaker 2: Kansas City twenty three, twenty Kansas City, you know, somewhere
Speaker 2: around in there. I just think it's gonna be one
Speaker 2: of those low twenty games, battling out Mahomes probably kicks
Speaker 2: the field goal to win it in the end, because
Speaker 2: I don't think.
Speaker 3: He's gonna lose. I don't think he's gonna lose back to.
Speaker 2: Back weeks against Bo Nicks and fucking Daniel Jones. And
Speaker 2: if he does do that, yeah, my god, Katie burned
Speaker 2: the fucking barn down because that shit is OVA in Kansas.
Speaker 4: It's a little bit of a it's a little bit
Speaker 4: of one of those just say it out loud type
Speaker 4: games like yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't, Pat, I would not. I'm not
Speaker 3: betting Indy on the money line, but when I get that,
Speaker 3: when I get that hook again, I.
Speaker 2: Can see Kansas City winning by the three. It's generally
Speaker 2: what they do anyway. Now, another thing that I don't
Speaker 2: like here, it's not the best spot coming off the
Speaker 2: bye for Indy either, since twenty twenty one coming off
Speaker 2: of by away dogs eighteen and twenty eightts.
Speaker 3: That's forty seven point four percent.
Speaker 2: But they're only not covering by not even a whole
Speaker 2: point point eight of a point. That's an average line
Speaker 2: of four point six. That means they lose by three
Speaker 2: and a half points right here, I mean usually, So
Speaker 2: that's what we're looking at.
Speaker 4: And and in these last two games, let's face that
Speaker 4: they lost to Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh and they beat the
Speaker 4: Falcons overseas barely in overtime, so you know, like they
Speaker 4: were a juggernaut to start the season, these.
Speaker 2: Teams are fade or on the on the fade button
Speaker 2: at the same time.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I don't like. I don't feel great
Speaker 3: about it.
Speaker 2: I think, like I said, I'm either gonna hit both
Speaker 2: the under and Indy or I'm.
Speaker 3: Gonna fucking lose both of them. So yeah, it's one.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be one of those. I don't I don't
Speaker 3: see me splitting the baby on this deal. All right,
Speaker 3: all right, let's move on. Oh, another one of the games.
Speaker 3: Those green Bay packets, those of those men I was
Speaker 3: o VI Kings. Now this one.
Speaker 2: Vegas had a green Bay minus three and a half
Speaker 2: preseason this one's all the way up from six and
Speaker 2: a half. Uh as we sit here now, let me
Speaker 2: make double check that we're still there. Yep, six and
Speaker 2: a half. I mean it's flat as flat can be
Speaker 2: too this lot. It's like open five and a half.
Speaker 2: Six and a half has not moved another fucking inch
Speaker 2: the rest of the week. So Longhan, what do you
Speaker 2: got on this one?
Speaker 4: Literally? Nothing? Like I mean, I've been dreading this game
Speaker 4: coming up the whole time. Like, I just I don't
Speaker 4: know what to do with either one of these teams
Speaker 4: right now. I really don't like. What do I do
Speaker 4: with Green Bay a team that's lost all their weapons
Speaker 4: and struggles to score but has a really good defense
Speaker 4: but inconsistent at big numbers. Yeah, I don't. I don't
Speaker 4: hate that at all, But like last week, I don't
Speaker 4: know how Like I know that they didn't cover the
Speaker 4: seven and a half against the Giants, and did the
Speaker 4: closing line ever get to six and a half or
Speaker 4: did it? Did it? They held at seven? Okay? So
Speaker 4: so yeah, and they're not covering these big numbers, so
Speaker 4: you know, But then on the other side, what the
Speaker 4: fuck do I do with JJ McCarthy at this point? Like,
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do with them. I don't
Speaker 4: know whatever supposed to go with that. As Buffalo returns
Speaker 4: a kickoff touchdown. So this is gonna be a shootout,
Speaker 4: a shootout in Houston. Who saw that one coming? So
Speaker 4: this one's a stake.
Speaker 3: That's almost a halftime Jesus.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this one's a stay away from me, forced lean.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the points and trust that the defense.
Speaker 4: Trust the defense from Minnesota can can you know, just
Speaker 4: play their ass off because they're gonna have to with
Speaker 4: J J. McCarthy. It's going to be a struggle over there.
Speaker 4: I like your under call because if this is a
Speaker 4: low scoring, close game and you're getting six and a
Speaker 4: half points, that's the best I got. I don't feel
Speaker 4: good about it, though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't have a side on this one either.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at hand we get this up here,
Speaker 2: fucking fucking fun the space or just so going through
Speaker 2: the numbers, it's a no call by the power ranking.
Speaker 2: It's a no call by the V two. Like I've
Speaker 2: got Green Bay Gady to.
Speaker 3: Win twenty two to seventeen.
Speaker 2: So by the BPG it says, you know, Minnesota slightly
Speaker 2: has value here.
Speaker 3: I like the under. Good god, I've got.
Speaker 2: The runners forty one, I think and a half sliding though,
Speaker 2: let's see, let's get a let's get an up to
Speaker 2: date total forty one and a half. Yeah, juice to
Speaker 2: the under a little bit here, so uh yeah, it's
Speaker 2: the only juices to the under. The reason why I
Speaker 2: like the under now, this is a decent matchup for
Speaker 2: Jordan Love.
Speaker 3: He does gain a point with the BPG.
Speaker 2: However, it's a terrible matchup for little JJ he loses
Speaker 2: two points. And it's also a bad matchup for the
Speaker 2: Packers running game. They lose half a point. It's a
Speaker 2: bad matchup for Minnesota's running game they lose a full
Speaker 2: point of the BPG. So again, you got two teams
Speaker 2: that struggle to score the ball, two pretty good defenses
Speaker 2: if you look at success rate.
Speaker 3: If I can get this pull up, you've got the
Speaker 3: number nine and number ten success rate defense.
Speaker 2: So you got two top ten defense going against two
Speaker 2: teams that struggle to score the ball in a game
Speaker 2: where you know, a smart coach on the Green Bay side,
Speaker 2: he he likes to play thing you talk about. Sean
Speaker 2: m Bay like playing things a little bit too close,
Speaker 2: you know, for cover.
Speaker 3: This fucking guy green Bay does the same bullshit, Like
Speaker 3: if he even thinks.
Speaker 2: That, hey, we don't really need to call any more
Speaker 2: of our good plays, he'll just shut shit down.
Speaker 3: He don't give a fuck.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, it's some. The difference is that Sean McVay
Speaker 4: has Stafford, Adams and Puka, and yeah, green Bay.
Speaker 3: Is love love but even even like in the games
Speaker 3: were like I mean, remember the Cowboy again, They're blowing
Speaker 3: the the fuck out.
Speaker 2: And they basically shut it down for two quarters and
Speaker 2: you know it cost him a win. I mean they
Speaker 2: got the tie.
Speaker 4: But yeah, he's got something. I mean, they're the same tree.
Speaker 3: They did the same thing. What was the game?
Speaker 2: It was like a game two weeks before that where
Speaker 2: they were blowing somewhere the fuck out, shut it down
Speaker 2: and damn near got beat.
Speaker 3: Like the team came all the way back to cover
Speaker 3: a big spread too against him, Like I don't know
Speaker 3: what but this, I mean it's six and a half.
Speaker 2: It's divisional game. I mean, and again that's other two
Speaker 2: things that limit score. You got two teams that know
Speaker 2: each other pretty well inside and out, which is probably
Speaker 2: why these grades are so bad for the players that yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't have a.
Speaker 3: Side on it. I do like the under lean the
Speaker 3: under forty one and a half for sure on this one.
Speaker 3: All right, let's move on to those Cincinnati. Uh, this
Speaker 3: son has dropped big time like a rock. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It's funny too, because I was really leaning hard since
Speaker 2: he like the eight and a half. Now there was
Speaker 2: nines that had popped and those are all gone now,
Speaker 2: so good God, we're down to six even.
Speaker 3: Five and a half at DraftKings. What the fuck is happening?
Speaker 4: Would die of aids. No, Joe Burrow's gonna play is
Speaker 4: what's gonna happen?
Speaker 3: Okay, all my numbers out the window, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Long one?
Speaker 3: What he got?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I go ahead and get to get the danger
Speaker 4: zone ready, because this is definitely definitely gonna be one
Speaker 4: of the one of the danger zone game of the weeks.
Speaker 4: All right, get out of here, Kenny Scruggins, heever the
Speaker 4: fuck sings out a song, Get out of my fucking Handica,
Speaker 4: let me go. What's the official line six for five
Speaker 4: and a half?
Speaker 3: Six?
Speaker 4: I'll take I'll take one on the six and do
Speaker 4: a half unit on the money line just in case
Speaker 4: mister Burrow plays and doesn't suck balls because let's not
Speaker 4: forget he does need to learn something from old man
Speaker 4: Joe or old man yeah Joe Flacco out there and uh,
Speaker 4: play a little better. But obviously obviously the wide receiver,
Speaker 4: why am I blanking on the Jamar Chase is not
Speaker 4: gonna be in this game? He's suspended for spitting. I
Speaker 4: didn't know did you know he was that the Bengals
Speaker 4: were spitters? Didn't know that there's spinners. But listening with
Speaker 4: T Higgins us the money line, alright, with T Higgins
Speaker 4: in that offense against this defense, who that's had somewhat
Speaker 4: of a tick up lately, but let's face they've played
Speaker 4: one of the worst schedules, maybe the worst street the
Speaker 4: street the schedule schedules in the league. So it's gonna
Speaker 4: look better than it than it normally would. Uh, and
Speaker 4: it's probably right. Success rate that's crazy, that's crazy because
Speaker 4: they haven't better late lately. But good, I'm glad.
Speaker 3: They were historically bad.
Speaker 2: So like their success of how success rate works on defense,
Speaker 2: boys and girls, like you want the lowest number possible.
Speaker 3: In other words, offense is least successful against.
Speaker 2: You, So number one in the league that would be
Speaker 2: your Denver Broncos thirty eight percent success rate for the
Speaker 2: season since he's sitting in fifty, which means the offense
Speaker 2: is successful more than half the time against them on
Speaker 2: and this is grated by play, So every single play
Speaker 2: that the fucking golfense runs, the opposites run more than
Speaker 2: half a time they succeed against. Since these defense, no.
Speaker 4: No, no, I was talking about New England's defense. Oh oh, sorry,
Speaker 4: I thought you about since no no, since he's I
Speaker 4: don't know how they've never had a tick up in
Speaker 4: there in years you were talking about.
Speaker 2: But yeah, no, New England's But they're up to seven set.
Speaker 2: They're almost average at this point.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, because they started bad. Remember they they were bad?
Speaker 4: Y Yeah, but you know, with Burrow coming back, let
Speaker 4: me just get to the handicap if Burrow doesn't play
Speaker 4: and it is Joe Flacco. Look, I still like that
Speaker 4: with the six do I wish it was the seven,
Speaker 4: that it was the eighth, that it was sure, but
Speaker 4: six is still a nice solid number at home, I
Speaker 4: guess a team that has played a week schedule, and
Speaker 4: let's face it, I've been saying this for about two
Speaker 4: months now. To do do for a letdown, like you
Speaker 4: just you just they're not gonna play all seventy without
Speaker 4: a letdown. It's gonna happen at somebody at some point.
Speaker 4: Now I'm I'm not interested in trying to catch the
Speaker 4: the following knife of win. It's gonna happen. But like
Speaker 4: I said, I just do think there is value here
Speaker 4: built into the number at home with that kind of offense.
Speaker 4: And if it is Joe Burrow, then you're you just
Speaker 4: get you get a few, at least one or two
Speaker 4: more free points because it probably goes down to four
Speaker 4: and a half, maybe even four at close or you're
Speaker 4: you're more than numbers guy, you can tell me what
Speaker 4: you think it'll go down too. If he is officially announced.
Speaker 3: It was at nine, literally, and I almost took him
Speaker 3: at nine and now down to six. So we're looking
Speaker 3: at at the height of it nine sitting at six.
Speaker 4: Now maybe four.
Speaker 2: I mean they could, Yeah, they did definitely two more
Speaker 2: points that put points between him and flat.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of what I was thinking. And and
Speaker 4: we won't know that until he actually does officially getting
Speaker 4: you know, announced, If he does, it's still very much
Speaker 4: up in the area. Now, last thing. We're in Hedg territory.
Speaker 4: Yeah for real, and Houston is going right down to
Speaker 4: the field before halftime. I'm going to get some more points, so.
Speaker 3: Hurt again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nice little trend here that that solidified me wanting
Speaker 4: to be on Sincy. Teams with eight straight wins, which
Speaker 4: New England has. Somehow, they're they're fucking over under for
Speaker 4: the year.
Speaker 3: Total, like almost almost in a row.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that fucking ray boy is good. He's good.
Speaker 4: No team's coming off eight straight wins. Next game on
Speaker 4: the road as a favorite, they are fourteen fourteen and
Speaker 4: thirty four ats, so you know it's and that actually
Speaker 4: that's that trend may have been over a touchdown, so
Speaker 4: I'd have to double check that because I may be
Speaker 4: falling out of the range now of that trend because
Speaker 4: that was an early week trend that I looked up
Speaker 4: pull it. So but regardless, I'm gonna be on Sincy
Speaker 4: plus the six and double crossing my fingers. Number one,
Speaker 4: that Burrow plays. Number two, that Burrow plays more like
Speaker 4: the good Joe Flacco that we've seen over the last
Speaker 4: few weeks and less like the hold the ball, hold
Speaker 4: the ball, hold the ball, Joe Burrow that we've seen
Speaker 4: too much of lately.
Speaker 3: Did you have a like a round, like a season
Speaker 3: range on that trend?
Speaker 4: Like since anything, it's you'd most of them that I
Speaker 4: look back or go back to the two thousand and
Speaker 4: two cut, But I bet I don't. Sorry, twenty twelve
Speaker 4: is on a minute, but I don't know for sure
Speaker 4: on this one.
Speaker 3: All right, I'll pull it in a second.
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, I'll just give you the numbers if
Speaker 2: it ends.
Speaker 3: Up being Flacco.
Speaker 2: I mean I had since he covered this game anyway,
Speaker 2: the total sporty nine and a half. I've got New
Speaker 2: England winning twenty five to twenty four, So literally right
Speaker 2: on the number there.
Speaker 3: Obviously it would have been since he graded to cover. Uh.
Speaker 2: It's a decent matchup for Flacco gains a half a point,
Speaker 2: but fucking Drake May gain's two points against the shitty
Speaker 2: sincey defense. Shocker there, but the fucking run quality of
Speaker 2: the system, that's what really is gonna hold. Since he
Speaker 2: back minus one, they're gonna gain there, but Patriots only
Speaker 2: gain half a point because they can't run the fucking ball.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be all Drake May in this one.
Speaker 2: If they're gonna want to cover this number, whatever number
Speaker 2: settles at. The only thing that I don't like if
Speaker 2: it's gonna be if it's gonna be Burrow, you would
Speaker 2: rather Higgins be out than Chase, because that's his dude.
Speaker 2: And Higgins has become Flacco's dude because Flacco, you know,
Speaker 2: he just chunks shut up, and Higgins is the guy
Speaker 2: that just goes and gets it. But you know, Joe
Speaker 2: and Chase, they have that connection. If it is Joe Burrow,
Speaker 2: I think it's a I think it's a much bigger
Speaker 2: disadvantage not having Jamar Chase in there then it would
Speaker 2: be if it was Flacco, just because that's not he
Speaker 2: doesn't really have that connection with him. And Jamar Chase
Speaker 2: is awesome and never help. It never helps to not
Speaker 2: even have him on the field. But I would rather
Speaker 2: Joe play. Chase isn't gonna play, and if it was Higgins,
Speaker 2: I gona play. I'd rather have the other Joe play.
Speaker 2: I'd have Burrough play.
Speaker 3: But I don't know that you could ever.
Speaker 2: Say you want Joe flackover Joe Burrow though in any situation,
Speaker 2: but first came back being rusty. I would love to
Speaker 2: be the dog catching the points either way if I
Speaker 2: was having Joe Burrow, because when else is Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: gonna be a fucking home dog by more than a
Speaker 2: field goal.
Speaker 3: That's not gonna happen very off. And if.
Speaker 2: If they go out there with him and beat the Patriots,
Speaker 2: then it ain't gonna happen again.
Speaker 3: The rest of the fucking season.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I remember the remember that game last last
Speaker 4: year New England. I think it was even in sincey
Speaker 4: Or would know it was that home when since he
Speaker 4: was in the week one the upset since fuck yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, weird, I remember that bullshit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're weird history with these two teams being close
Speaker 4: games and and little upsetting.
Speaker 3: That was very upsetting.
Speaker 4: What that was Houston with a touchdown so they're gonna
Speaker 4: have the lead at half to him.
Speaker 3: We got a ball game, boys and girls. I'm glad
Speaker 3: I don't have nothing on that one. Ah. I did
Speaker 3: not have Buffalo most above either.
Speaker 4: I got Houston on the gotta pick every game contest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean the number got so big, but
Speaker 2: then it crashed back down before kickoff, and I don't
Speaker 2: know what the fuck was going on.
Speaker 4: It was locked at five and a half, on on
Speaker 4: the one that I'm in.
Speaker 3: Uh, all right, let's move on to those Detroit Lions
Speaker 3: hosting those New York Football giants. Famous jamis most likely
Speaker 3: again here. I don't think that it matters.
Speaker 4: I don't know, dude, We'll see. I'm hearing rumors that
Speaker 4: they might clear dart So and I think that's why
Speaker 4: you're seeing the I.
Speaker 2: Mean, I think that's I think that's fucking criminal, criminal
Speaker 2: to do that to that kid, Like, who gives a fuck?
Speaker 3: No, I mean honest, Like I mean, in the grand things,
Speaker 3: he doesn't need to play this close.
Speaker 2: To a concussion for what purpose? You're going where your
Speaker 2: seasons are over? If you really believe in this kid,
Speaker 2: it would be fucking criminal to put him in this game.
Speaker 4: Okay, I've got to say consistent though. I can't one
Speaker 4: week say called st J stroud of pussy for not
Speaker 4: playing two weeks.
Speaker 3: After playoff fucking race to try to go win.
Speaker 4: He needs to play football. If he's mad at now, well,
Speaker 4: then when when don't bring him back the rest of
Speaker 4: the year, then to say save him the next year?
Speaker 4: Then no, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not saying that, but like, why would you rush him
Speaker 3: back for this.
Speaker 4: If he's medically cleared, like Tom Brady says, you only
Speaker 4: get better playing football by playing football. Now, if he's
Speaker 4: like if it's if he he's got like, eh, he might,
Speaker 4: he's got ten percent more symptoms.
Speaker 3: Drugged him out of the fucking blues.
Speaker 4: Hint.
Speaker 3: It's like, hey, do you know who we are? Get
Speaker 3: your ass?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: If he if he's even got one sign of still
Speaker 4: some leading, yeah, send him out. But if he's one
Speaker 4: hundred percent medically cleared, get us that. Get out there
Speaker 4: and play fucking football now. Maybe don't stop running into linebackers,
Speaker 4: stop going airborne to trying to jump over or three people.
Speaker 4: That's maybe that would be a good idea for darting.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you gotta go play football, all right.
Speaker 2: Well, it's ten points, well ten and a half then
Speaker 2: actually down to ten at Circle and the West Gate.
Speaker 4: I know he's gonna they're gonna play him, they're gonna blame.
Speaker 2: Him, but it's but it's at eleven at Bette Rivers
Speaker 2: and it's ten and a half pretty much everywhere else.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It opened at eleven and a half,
Speaker 3: got bought down to ten and a half.
Speaker 2: It's pretty much stuck there. We'll see which way it goes.
Speaker 2: But that's a lot of points, long horns, a lot
Speaker 2: of points.
Speaker 3: What do you like here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, well, first of all, I was wrong
Speaker 4: about the line move. We talked about it on the
Speaker 4: Monday Recap pod from last week in the NFL. I
Speaker 4: said that, don't be surprises. This line gets up to twelve,
Speaker 4: you know, twelve and a half by Gandy, But that
Speaker 4: was I didn't know that they were flirting with the
Speaker 4: Jackson Dart.
Speaker 3: Possible trickling in on the line though, by the way.
Speaker 4: So well, it's definitely gonna be me trickling in on that,
Speaker 4: because like you're you're out of your fucking mind if
Speaker 4: you think I'm not playing the Lions coming off of
Speaker 4: a loss. I mean this, this gets redundant, you know,
Speaker 4: And I actually love this redundancy of a lot of
Speaker 4: different teams that have these things that we can rely on,
Speaker 4: and we talk about them all the.
Speaker 3: Time in the part exactly wins.
Speaker 4: Eight straight wins. Yeah. So yeah, like once again through
Speaker 4: the list of Detroit trends, which is a seventy percent
Speaker 4: winner with Campbell and golf, so you ats, so you
Speaker 4: have to have a reason to go against them in
Speaker 4: these spots. Detroit eight and two against the spread after
Speaker 4: a game when they don't Oh this is I should
Speaker 4: say this for last. This is an obscure one, but
Speaker 4: I guess I'll start with it. Detroit are eight and
Speaker 4: two ATS in a game following a game where they
Speaker 4: converted zero fourth downs. They are the fourth down Kings,
Speaker 4: are the ones that started. They're the ones that started
Speaker 4: this whole trend. They were over five last week on
Speaker 4: fourth down. Dan Campbell is going to be like just
Speaker 4: just chomping at the bit to go for go and
Speaker 4: make every fourth down. They're gonna throttle down against this
Speaker 4: shitty Detroit defense and they're just this is the perfect spot.
Speaker 4: Another one Detroit with Golf and Campbell eight to no
Speaker 4: ATS after a straight up loss with a line higher
Speaker 4: than four. So like everything lines up. If a team
Speaker 4: they should be coming off a loss, they thought of them.
Speaker 4: They just they just throttle them so they don't overthink it.
Speaker 4: Take them. It's down to ten. If Jackson Dark can
Speaker 4: can beat me, can come in there and do some
Speaker 4: magic without neighbors, without skataboo, without anybody really hats off.
Speaker 4: I'll tip my hat. But the running game, the running
Speaker 4: for Detroit shouldn't a gate and slow down the pass rush.
Speaker 4: That would normally give Jerry Goff some problems. But the
Speaker 4: pass rush only really works when it can take you
Speaker 4: if you can stop the running game and take take
Speaker 4: them out of that rhythm of passing and running. So
Speaker 4: it's all Detroit for me.
Speaker 2: I don't have anything on this game. There's too many,
Speaker 2: too many movie parts, many questions. I have no idea
Speaker 2: who's playing quarterback? And if I had to bet at
Speaker 2: the I'm laying the point with Detroit like there's no
Speaker 2: sev yep, it's just what it was, kind of like
Speaker 2: when Tommy played, Like you either bet with tom or
Speaker 2: you just didn't bet.
Speaker 3: You just don't go the other way. That's not smart.
Speaker 2: All right, Let's move on to those Baltimore ravensch to
Speaker 2: those nude York jay.
Speaker 3: E see yes, Jets, Jets.
Speaker 2: Eleven and a half was what Vegas had it at
Speaker 2: it opened fourteen and a half.
Speaker 3: We're down to thirteen and a half. So a longe,
Speaker 3: what do you got on this?
Speaker 4: Not a lot on the Jets, Yeah, not a lot
Speaker 4: on this one. Reluctantly going to lean towards the Jets
Speaker 4: with all those points, only because remember the Baker situation
Speaker 4: where we had three games in a row where he
Speaker 4: didn't run and it affected him. They obviously were you know,
Speaker 4: couldn't score what they were what they wanted to. Well,
Speaker 4: Lamar's not running anymore. He's got two games in a
Speaker 4: row where he's barely ran. Last week only had ten
Speaker 4: rushing yards. And look, and that's such a huge Like
Speaker 4: I know that there's been you know, he's he's become
Speaker 4: a much more effective passer, no doubt then then when
Speaker 4: he started his career. But a lot of that is
Speaker 4: because of his the threat of the run. If he's
Speaker 4: hurt and he's doing and he had he had a
Speaker 4: d NP again in practice this week, so like there's
Speaker 4: obviously something going on with him physically. He's still going
Speaker 4: out there and playing. But if he can't have the
Speaker 4: threat of the run and he's strictly a hand the
Speaker 4: ball to Derrick Henry and pocket passer, that's not where
Speaker 4: you want Lamar Jackson to be. And so I just
Speaker 4: don't because I because the Jets are unbettable and and
Speaker 4: I and I can't just just ball. Yeah, I love
Speaker 4: that number. I love the Jets. No, No, I got
Speaker 4: to have a reason to go against Baltimore. And I've
Speaker 4: found a reason to go against Baltimore, so that that
Speaker 4: that gives me, you know, roll reluctantly, a reason to
Speaker 4: punch in those Jets getting all the points. And then
Speaker 4: what we get to do is we have to watch
Speaker 4: the Jets suck and completely ruin the bat probably before
Speaker 4: the first half's even.
Speaker 2: Over most last one, sir, Both power ruggings do great
Speaker 2: for the Jets.
Speaker 3: The V two is also on the Jets. I fort
Speaker 3: to make that note total forty four and a half.
Speaker 3: I like the Jets.
Speaker 2: I like the under here too, So I got Baltimore
Speaker 2: winning this game twenty three to nineteen. There's a flat
Speaker 2: matchup with both quarterbacks's flat matchup for Baltimore's running game,
Speaker 2: which is the most important thing always in Baltimore. Not
Speaker 2: a good matchup for the Jets running game minus half
Speaker 2: point there. Look, it's fields is gonna have to not
Speaker 2: fucking throw us out of this one and just let
Speaker 2: Lamar kind of keep us in it, hopefully a fumbler two.
Speaker 2: You know, it's that time of year Baltimore, with those
Speaker 2: small hands, Lamar's start to become a factor. The ball
Speaker 2: gets slick, and look you're it's a hold your nose fucking.
Speaker 3: Like you said. I mean, yes, Baltimore has to win
Speaker 3: every game. There's no doubt that motivation there.
Speaker 2: But if they can win these games, which they've been
Speaker 2: able to against these shit bucket teams, which is all
Speaker 2: they played since he's been back without him running, I
Speaker 2: mean that's literally having your cake and eating it too,
Speaker 2: So I can I think that continues. The Jets have
Speaker 2: not shown any you know, real quit even after all
Speaker 2: the trades, so I think they continue to play football here.
Speaker 2: As long as we don't get shit housed early, I
Speaker 2: think we can stick around in this one. Baltimore pulls
Speaker 2: it out by a score, maybe even two scores, as
Speaker 2: long as it's not two touchdowns in the end, we'll see.
Speaker 2: But another thing about this Baltimore offense too, they've not
Speaker 2: been impressive since he's been back.
Speaker 3: Like they've been okay but not. They weren't. Remember when
Speaker 3: they started the year, they were scoring forty points a
Speaker 3: fucking game.
Speaker 2: It was their defense that sucked balls and that's why
Speaker 2: they were losing. Lamar was literally the MVP of an
Speaker 2: zero to four team. Whatever it was like, they couldn't
Speaker 2: be stopped on offense, and they could stop nobody on defense.
Speaker 3: It's kind of the offenses to back. They've been very
Speaker 3: working a lot of going offense and been great on defense.
Speaker 3: But we'll see how this one goes. Hopefully, to God,
Speaker 3: we can just hang around.
Speaker 4: There went their four game win streak coming off the
Speaker 4: one in five is went against Chicago, went against Miami,
Speaker 4: win against Minnesota, win against Cleveland. So I guess Chicago
Speaker 4: CHICG was definitely chic was definitely the best team that
Speaker 4: they've played out of them.
Speaker 3: And they have a negative point difference on the season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, don't don't fuck me justin Fields.
Speaker 4: I know you will. I know you will.
Speaker 2: Though, I know we're gonna lose forty five to nothing.
Speaker 2: So since twenty twelve, go back to long Horns thing.
Speaker 2: Eight teams that won eight in a row and they're
Speaker 2: on the road. I didn't even specify a favorite. If
Speaker 2: you won eight in the row and your next game
Speaker 2: is away twelve and thirty one ats twenty seven point, it's.
Speaker 3: Just ateen and twenty five. Straight up. They could they
Speaker 3: could lose this.
Speaker 2: Now, let me let me do the favorite thing though,
Speaker 2: just because that's gonna change that for sure, and favored. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I see fifteen and thirteen straight up. Now nine and
Speaker 2: nineteen ats still thirty two, Still terrible spot acs, But
Speaker 2: anytime you're their favorite, you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Win more than you lose in any scenario in the NFL.
Speaker 2: But fifty three point six percent is as low as
Speaker 2: you're gonna fucking see for a favorite in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Also, I mean NFL favorites they.
Speaker 2: Win sixty percent of time straight up on average. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that's as low as it fucking gets. This is literally
Speaker 2: a coin flip situation. That's an average on a five
Speaker 2: and a half, and they're not covering about two point
Speaker 2: five points. I mean, they're they're winning these games about
Speaker 2: two point six points on average. So yeah, I love
Speaker 2: your Bengals games. I wish i'd pop that in at nine.
Speaker 2: I fucking had it too, and I just didn't do it.
Speaker 2: Let's see, I don't see if.
Speaker 3: The line makes any difference. Let's just say line less
Speaker 3: than six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, seven and four straight up, So you're gonna get
Speaker 2: bigger favorites gonna win sixty three point six percent of
Speaker 2: the time four and seven ahts, So you still have
Speaker 2: made it out of thirty percent ats and you're not
Speaker 2: coming by three point four points on an average line
Speaker 2: of seven point nine.
Speaker 3: It's there's not a bad spot here.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a close game with what is what
Speaker 4: The history is.
Speaker 2: Saying no doubt, no doubt about it, and the BBG
Speaker 2: says the same thing.
Speaker 3: So I like it.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 3: I should have pulled the trigger on it.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to those Chicago Bears hosting
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers in the most overrated bowl in the
Speaker 2: history of all fucking time. Pittsburgh and Chicago get together
Speaker 2: and spare us all to.
Speaker 3: Death for three hours. But thank you Bears for winning
Speaker 3: us money last week.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you, even though I take full credit for
Speaker 2: your win because that was in town minus two and
Speaker 2: a half for the Bears minus one fifteen across book
Speaker 2: across the four minus one fifteen.
Speaker 3: So with I don't know, I don't know. Let's see
Speaker 3: which where the money's going.
Speaker 2: Uh, the money's trickling, trickling on the Bears.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know if we get the three on
Speaker 3: this one.
Speaker 4: Really yeah, it's currently tuned out.
Speaker 2: It's two and a half, literally two and a half
Speaker 2: minus one fifteen at every single book up there and
Speaker 2: at the exact juice, exact number, and it opened it
Speaker 2: two and a half. Money is just trickle trickle trickle
Speaker 2: on Chicago all week long. So nobody, nobody's really wanting
Speaker 2: to bet Pittsburgh, is what this tells me. Pittsburgh might
Speaker 2: be the right side.
Speaker 4: My money doesn't fold it trickle trickle trickles in on Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: I guess, I don't know. I hate this game so much.
Speaker 4: This feels like a destined close game for multiple reasons.
Speaker 4: Number one, either one of these teams can run away
Speaker 4: from anybody, so it's a perfect teaser game.
Speaker 2: And almost exactly, quarterbacks can run away from the ladies.
Speaker 4: Yeah thea I heard he likes to run into bath
Speaker 4: houses as just what I heard. I don't know, as
Speaker 4: that's the rumor. Yeah, I don't. I'm gonna be on
Speaker 4: a teaser for Pittsburgh for sure, so and I know
Speaker 4: that's not that doesn't do all for this handicap. But
Speaker 4: I will say this, Tomlin has lost four straight as
Speaker 4: a road dog. This is this Saint your daddy's, you know, Yen's,
Speaker 4: Yen's think you're gonna go down downtown and watch watch
Speaker 4: them Petsburgh Steelers and and that, and you're gonna get
Speaker 4: a good, good road victory. No, that this is not
Speaker 4: the team for that. So I don't know. It's it's Rogers.
Speaker 4: He might play it's up in the air. They don't
Speaker 4: know with his wrists he fractured his non throwing risk. Well,
Speaker 4: I don't know, man Like. I mean, what's the difference
Speaker 4: between Rudolph right now and the way Rogers is playing?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of them has a red nose. Sir,
Speaker 2: if you listen to the song, you would already know that.
Speaker 4: Do you remember that song? Look, I'll just say this.
Speaker 4: The reason I love the teaser so much, and I'm
Speaker 4: at two and a half or above, I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: fucking I guess, bet Pittsburgh, I guess. I don't like it.
Speaker 4: But but Chicago's teams every year, we have these teams
Speaker 4: that are much much worse than their record. This feels
Speaker 4: like Chicago's turning into that team. Yes, they are for
Speaker 4: sure turning into that team. It seems like no matter.
Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like if they're down big in the game,
Speaker 4: they're gonna find a way to make it close. If
Speaker 4: they're up big in the game, they're gonna find a
Speaker 4: way that it gets Like it's just they're just that
Speaker 4: team that is gonna the game's gonna be close no
Speaker 4: matter what. So they're a perfect teaser team, whether for
Speaker 4: or against. So that's just I guess I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: on Pittsburgh at the line that it is. I'm for
Speaker 4: sure gonna tease it up. Maybe you can tell me,
Speaker 4: am I making a mistake. I mean, is it just
Speaker 4: destined that Chicago is gonna win these close games? Is
Speaker 4: it just the way it's gonna be? All you?
Speaker 3: Pretty much?
Speaker 2: But this this is literally the other than the overrated
Speaker 2: spare Mean to Death Bowl. This was the literal no
Speaker 2: call Bowl. I think I've had all year power ringings
Speaker 2: no call. Now the B two is on Pittsburgh, but
Speaker 2: the total is sitting at forty four and a half.
Speaker 2: I've got Chicago winning this game twenty four to twenty one,
Speaker 2: which we're half point away.
Speaker 3: That's a no call.
Speaker 2: Twenty four plus twenty one is forty five told forty
Speaker 2: four and a half half point away, that's a no call.
Speaker 2: I've got no fucking action any which way I turn
Speaker 2: in this game. Both quarterbacks should have success here, but
Speaker 2: neither running game should have much success here. So basically
Speaker 2: we're depending on two gay quarterbacks to score points by themselves.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm not sure it's the Gable. It
Speaker 2: is the Gable, it's the Gay Bowl that I'll have
Speaker 2: no money. This is literally just the most no call,
Speaker 2: spare me to death, fucking game of the week for me.
Speaker 2: So I had nothing on this game. I found no
Speaker 2: angles at all.
Speaker 3: I would love to go. I mean, look, you you
Speaker 3: do want to be on these teams.
Speaker 2: And it's funny because you think, like, oh, the regression
Speaker 2: monsters come, and sometimes it does in season, but sometimes
Speaker 2: and there's always at least one team like this in
Speaker 2: the NFL every single year.
Speaker 3: The regression monster never comes. Yeah, they just go to
Speaker 3: the playoffs and then they get beat by a better team.
Speaker 4: That's when they come. See, it seems like it doesn't
Speaker 4: really ever happen in season.
Speaker 2: It seems like it happens next season. Sure, we'll talk
Speaker 2: about next year preseason. They're gonna be my regression monster
Speaker 2: candidates for next year.
Speaker 3: And everybody likes to well, you.
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean anything that we've done it year after year
Speaker 2: after year, after year, and I always identify that team
Speaker 2: and almost always, I mean long, we're gonna test probably
Speaker 2: ninety five percent of the time when I say this
Speaker 2: is a regression monster team. This season, their season does
Speaker 2: not go well, just like it went the year before.
Speaker 4: So well, there was two of them this year. There
Speaker 4: was two of them this year. It was Minnesota Kansas City,
Speaker 4: and they're both under performing.
Speaker 3: Not going well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not going well. One of them just happens to
Speaker 2: have God at quarterbacks, so good for them.
Speaker 3: We'll see if that saves them in the end. All right,
Speaker 3: let's move on.
Speaker 2: Now, this actually is the game of the week. I'm
Speaker 2: so glad we saved it for now.
Speaker 3: Oh so Tennessee Tights, baby postal Seattle Seahawks. Now you're
Speaker 3: laugh at this. What I'll let you guess.
Speaker 2: What do you think Vegas had the preseason line on
Speaker 2: this game?
Speaker 3: Seattle in Tennessee?
Speaker 4: Well, since Seattle, I'm trying to remember preseason, Seattle's probably
Speaker 4: about an eight and a half preseason and Tennessee was
Speaker 4: probably I'm talking about season wins. Yeah, I mean, so
Speaker 4: that would be Seattle minus two for this game.
Speaker 3: One and a half.
Speaker 4: Oh that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Good chick, good. They missed it by a little bit.
Speaker 2: Seattle is currently laying thirteen thirteen and a half.
Speaker 3: The DraftKings still but money, money, money, money, money, money
Speaker 3: coming in on Tennessee. So it hit.
Speaker 2: It opened at twelve and a half, it got up
Speaker 2: to fourteen for a minute.
Speaker 3: Now it's coming back. Now we settled it at thirteen.
Speaker 2: So let's call it thirteen Longhorn Seattle Road favorites against
Speaker 2: everybody's favorite team, the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I can only be on Seattle here. I
Speaker 4: want no part of the free square Tennessee Titans. Now
Speaker 4: they are coming off too straight against the spread winds.
Speaker 4: But let's analyze those wins, shall Shall we analyze these
Speaker 4: against the spread winds?
Speaker 3: No, let's not do that.
Speaker 4: We remember we remember. Well, look, if they win, you
Speaker 4: cash your ticket. It doesn't matter how it happens. So
Speaker 4: if you if you've been right in Tennessee, they've been
Speaker 4: doing you well. So keep betting on Tennessee. Please do that.
Speaker 4: Get this number as low as possible possibly. Tennessee against
Speaker 4: La Chargers seventeen points directly off either return touchdowns or
Speaker 4: a turnover setup field goal. Last week, whatever the fuck
Speaker 4: that was against Houston. I mean, if Houston was doing
Speaker 4: what they're doing, if they were doing what they did
Speaker 4: tonight with the doing a night against Buffalo last week,
Speaker 4: that that'll have been a blowout city. So Seattle Road
Speaker 4: Monsters five and one ats on the road. Just I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: just I this is a free square. It hasn't worked
Speaker 4: out last a couple of weeks. Long term the rest
Speaker 4: of this year. Just keep betting against Tennessee. You're gonna
Speaker 4: be profitable, and I'll be on Seattle. Keep betting on Tennessee, though,
Speaker 4: give me under that thirteen. I'd like to get it
Speaker 4: at twelve and a half though. That's a sweet spot.
Speaker 3: It might be coming. It might be coming now.
Speaker 2: This one, believe it or not, Power rankings great at
Speaker 2: thirteen and a half was a no call. I actually
Speaker 2: had this game at Seattle minus fourteen, so I have
Speaker 2: gone away there. Seattle does have the V two. Look
Speaker 2: here's why I struggled with this one. Overall, A guess
Speaker 2: Seattle winning the game twenty eight to seventeen. That's right
Speaker 2: under eleven point so wouldn't quite come at thirty and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 3: So for grading.
Speaker 2: Purpose, the DPG will be on Tennessee. But man, this
Speaker 2: total confuses the fuck out of me. Forty and a half.
Speaker 3: I don't understand this. Because Seattle. You said they are
Speaker 3: road monsters, then they are.
Speaker 2: They score forty points on fucking everybody, and on the road,
Speaker 2: especially and especially against shitty teams, which Tennessee surely is,
Speaker 2: and Tennessee's they've offense not great.
Speaker 4: And their quarterback that's like a twenty six to twenty
Speaker 4: six to thirteen implied, Yeah, score something like that. Yeahty
Speaker 4: the only scored twenty six against Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Then, I mean, I've got him scoring twenty eight, so
Speaker 2: it's pretty close. But I have Tennessee score in seventeen
Speaker 2: and I don't know how.
Speaker 4: I don't know how either without without turnovers. I don't
Speaker 4: know no idea.
Speaker 2: Because Ward loses a point and a half, they lose
Speaker 2: a half point in the running game, Donald gains a point,
Speaker 2: they gained half a point in the running game for Seattle,
Speaker 2: and this one just it made so much no sense
Speaker 2: that I couldn't make any sense out of it. But
Speaker 2: I don't cannot get over that forty and.
Speaker 3: A half total.
Speaker 2: I mean, I almost slammed it in on principle, just
Speaker 2: but I don't know, man, and the weather.
Speaker 3: He was like, oh, what's the weather. No, I looked
Speaker 3: up the wells. It's got to be the weather.
Speaker 2: No, it's gonna be fucking sixty five degrees, like a
Speaker 2: five percent chance of rain and no wind supposed to
Speaker 2: be no wind at all in that fucking stadium. And
Speaker 2: we're looking DraftKings at thirty nine and a half. This
Speaker 2: game is dipped under forty at this point. It opened
Speaker 2: at forty two and a half. The money continues to
Speaker 2: pour in on them. What don't I know?
Speaker 3: This is what That's what pissed me off for this,
Speaker 3: And there's reason why I didn't bet the over.
Speaker 2: Everything says over over over, but I'm missing something, so
Speaker 2: I'm staying away.
Speaker 3: But man, that fucking pisses me off.
Speaker 4: I do love and this is this has nothing to
Speaker 4: dow with a handicap, but I just because I watched
Speaker 4: rosters and and you know chess piece moves. They have
Speaker 4: basically the defensive The head coach for Seattle defensive mining
Speaker 4: coach came from Baltimore. He's he's basically brought. He's taken. Uh,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna worry. Their first round pick out of Southern wines.
Speaker 4: The humongous six three two and twenty five pound safety
Speaker 4: hybrid linebacker. They've basically moved him to corner, but like
Speaker 4: a slot corner, so he's always in the box for
Speaker 4: obvious reasons. He runs at four to three, so he
Speaker 4: can run with anybody. You put him in there, and
Speaker 4: he's so long and strong, he's gonna be able to jamp. Like.
Speaker 4: But what that does is that allows for so much
Speaker 4: disguise with their defense. You can blitz a monster from
Speaker 4: the splot position. You're he's in the box naturally already
Speaker 4: at that Like it's just a brilliant like a cow,
Speaker 4: like he's his he's his new Kyle Hamilton for Baltimore,
Speaker 4: evens he's turned him into that. Just just it's kind
Speaker 4: of like opened up that defensive backfield and you just
Speaker 4: love to see it.
Speaker 3: So who was that they were playing? They had to
Speaker 3: text you it happened. It was a game.
Speaker 2: We were opposite of Tadle's playing some ship box. They
Speaker 2: were at home.
Speaker 3: Oh it was the game.
Speaker 2: They won like a million to nothing, and then then
Speaker 2: the team started coming back at the end. Who was Arizona?
Speaker 3: Arizona? They showed three times, he showed three.
Speaker 2: Times he was gonna blitz because Jacoby kept changed his
Speaker 2: canes changed kdget and then the third time he still blitzed,
Speaker 2: and he nobody touched him, and he rocked Kobe. I'm like,
Speaker 2: he showed you three fucking times he was coming. You
Speaker 2: didn't if all this hand motioning, gesturing and all the conjecture,
Speaker 2: and you never said hey one time, Hey, maybe this
Speaker 2: guy look out for this guy.
Speaker 3: No, you just said, ah, he's not really, he's just kidding.
Speaker 3: He's just kidding.
Speaker 4: He's a fucking baller. And I and I made a
Speaker 4: mistake a minute or two ago. He was not their
Speaker 4: first round pick. He was a second round pick. They
Speaker 4: drafted Gray's Abel the first round pick, stud offensive lineman.
Speaker 4: So good job Seattle drafting. That's that's uh, that's two
Speaker 4: for two right there in the first two rounds. Oh,
Speaker 4: they drafted Tory Horton also, like I mean, Jesus bore
Speaker 4: out about him. Well done, Seattle, well done.
Speaker 3: Yeah they doing, man. I like to see that they're
Speaker 3: on the com for sure.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to my Las Vegas Raiders
Speaker 2: fucking socking what they're husting the Cleveland Browns and Shadra
Speaker 2: Sanders makes his NFL debut as a starter.
Speaker 3: This game's sitting at four pretty much across the board.
Speaker 2: Uh, it's actually pretty cheap three and a half though
Speaker 2: draft minus one twelve.
Speaker 3: That's really cheap for the three and a half.
Speaker 2: So if you like the Raiders, go shop over at
Speaker 2: DK but models at them at minus one fifteen, not
Speaker 2: as cheap, and still.
Speaker 3: But four pretty much across the board at all the
Speaker 3: Shark books. So we'll call it for Longhorn. Who do
Speaker 3: you like hearing from? Of the Ravens and the Browns
Speaker 3: and the toilet Bowl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you right
Speaker 4: now that Longhorn is about to make a mistake on
Speaker 4: this game. I'm just telling you right now, like I
Speaker 4: know it. I can feel it coming. I know it's
Speaker 4: gonna happen. The narrative for against who was god awful
Speaker 4: last week. Trust me, I saw the game. He was
Speaker 4: god awful, almost worse than even the shitty numbers said
Speaker 4: he was.
Speaker 3: But I made the worst passer rating literally of all
Speaker 3: time for sure.
Speaker 4: And I will say this before I even get to
Speaker 4: the handicap. The last time a starting quarterback making his
Speaker 4: debut for Cleveland won the game. Do you know what
Speaker 4: year it was by Steve's not quite that long. Nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety five, so I was in high school. But the
Speaker 4: last time a starting I don't remember. It was a
Speaker 4: weird name that I'd never even heard, so it was
Speaker 4: even before I was like super super And he never
Speaker 4: probably won another game ever because I never heard of
Speaker 4: his name.
Speaker 3: It's too late for Kozar for ninety five, so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's too early for Tim Couchs because that
Speaker 4: was like the name that came to my mind.
Speaker 3: But couch was the managers.
Speaker 4: Two thousand, Yeah, like ninety eight to two thousand something
Speaker 4: like that. All that said, The narrative right now is
Speaker 4: that they said all that to say that I'm gonna
Speaker 4: make a mistake and lean to the three and a half,
Speaker 4: four points whatever you can get Cleveland that and and
Speaker 4: I just think it's gone too far. Like Sanders is
Speaker 4: not Sanders is not an incompetent thrower of the ball. Now,
Speaker 4: he can play incompetent at quarterback at times, for sure,
Speaker 4: but this is still Vegas he's playing, right, This is
Speaker 4: still a horrible, horrible fucking team. Like it's just gone
Speaker 4: too far from me, Like all of a sudden now
Speaker 4: the team that can barely score with Gino, can barely
Speaker 4: run the ball, can barely figure out how to get
Speaker 4: the ball to their best player. All of a sudden,
Speaker 4: now three and a half four point favorites against a
Speaker 4: against a Miles Garrett defense and defensive line that's dominant,
Speaker 4: and they're missing two starters on the offense line. They're
Speaker 4: down two more starters that already wasn't good. It's just
Speaker 4: gone too far. It wasn't good. It's just gone too far.
Speaker 4: And they're forcing me, forcing me to make a goddamn
Speaker 4: mistake and take Sugar Sanders plus the points. And I'm
Speaker 4: picking them to win the game, because you know, I
Speaker 4: tend to not go against friends that are older, almost
Speaker 4: old as me, almost as old as me. So yeah,
Speaker 4: just I gotta take the points, man. And I know
Speaker 4: in Cleveland, Deviens is not good. Good on the road.
Speaker 4: They give up ten more points on the road than
Speaker 4: they do at home. And I know all these things.
Speaker 4: I know all these things. I'm sorry, I've watched Vegas
Speaker 4: all year long. They are a train wreck.
Speaker 3: I don't know about fucking you talking about disappointment.
Speaker 2: I mean, Vegas is my preseason, an everybody's sleeping on
Speaker 2: these guys.
Speaker 3: They're gonna win seven games. We're gonna go over that.
Speaker 3: So now I didn't put that out of the clients.
Speaker 3: That's over. I bet at my own personal money, I
Speaker 3: can burn that ticket up.
Speaker 2: I mean, in my whole handicap was they've got an
Speaker 2: actual NFL quarterback. Now they've got a guy who just
Speaker 2: he'll keep them in games everything.
Speaker 4: And a coach is not gonna make mistakes.
Speaker 2: And it has just been a fucking abject disaster.
Speaker 4: What about this game?
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is, fucking Week one, I was
Speaker 2: so common to, Oh, they're gonna go beat New England.
Speaker 3: New England sucks. And then.
Speaker 4: And if you remember the speech after Pete Carroll was like,
Speaker 4: oh this ain't it. There's a lot more coming. Well,
Speaker 4: we've been watching a lot more.
Speaker 2: And then he coming for three hundred yards like three touchdowns,
Speaker 2: and yeah, that was pretty much the height of his
Speaker 2: whole fucking season.
Speaker 4: So this game, where are you at with this? Like,
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like I'm walking into like a
Speaker 4: big sugar center's mistake. And I might be, but I can't.
Speaker 4: I just can't do it. Everybody's expecting him to suck.
Speaker 4: Literally everybody. Nobody's saying it, like what if he just
Speaker 4: plays semi average with that defense against I mean, just yeah,
Speaker 4: I guess too much.
Speaker 2: I mean the total thirty six, for Christ's sake, that's
Speaker 2: just gross. Uh here, so full transparency.
Speaker 3: I tour. I did toy.
Speaker 2: Around with taking Vegas and my survivor pool because I
Speaker 2: have taken Vegas.
Speaker 3: It's getting slim pays.
Speaker 4: And well, you got the nineteen ninety five trend.
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: But the reason why I did it, the reason why
Speaker 2: I didn't is exactly what you just said, because I
Speaker 2: just knew as soon as I did, and all the
Speaker 2: public been shitting on this kid and shitting on this
Speaker 2: kid because everybody there's two camps.
Speaker 3: When it comes to your Sanders.
Speaker 2: It's the people that says it's racist somehow because they
Speaker 2: started a Mexican over a black guy I guess or Islanders,
Speaker 2: I don't know, and that he's awesome and they just
Speaker 2: got to give this king a chance to shine and
Speaker 2: be a king and.
Speaker 3: Be legendary and blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: There's that camp, which is a very big presence online,
Speaker 2: and there's the rest of us, like, no, he just sucks,
Speaker 2: and he doesn't pay attention to meetings, and he's a
Speaker 2: fuck off, and he's not a serious person and he
Speaker 2: doesn't take his craft serious or his job seriously, which
Speaker 2: is all very true. It was obviously evident he was
Speaker 2: not ready to play, and I was like, well, he
Speaker 2: didn't get any first team snaps. Okay, neither is any
Speaker 2: other person that's ever came in a game to this
Speaker 2: situation like that, And he's the he's put it the
Speaker 2: worst q BE rating up literally all time. So I
Speaker 2: don't want to hear that bullshit either. But I just know,
Speaker 2: and these I've been we've been doing this so long.
Speaker 2: I know in the situation where you know the kids,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be not good for his career.
Speaker 3: He's gonna get run out of the league. Blah blah,
Speaker 3: blah blah.
Speaker 2: But there's gonna be a moment where all his supporters
Speaker 2: are gonna call us all haters and say, you just gotta.
Speaker 3: Let this king shine. See what he could do.
Speaker 2: They try to shoot on you, blah blah, And this
Speaker 2: might just be that.
Speaker 4: You'll have and they'll have that one good game.
Speaker 2: Like yes, and Vegas is bad enough that this could
Speaker 2: be that game for him. He can come out and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Cleveland put up thirty points and
Speaker 2: he fucking throws three touchdowns and he's doing this shit
Speaker 2: whatever his little move is.
Speaker 3: I did like the call Hamblon that was so funny.
Speaker 2: After he's sacked him for like the night time or whatever,
Speaker 2: Calhaven just goes. He goes league because there's things like
Speaker 2: to look at his farm and go like the legendary
Speaker 2: So it goes playing on the ground nice.
Speaker 3: That was awesome.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, that's that's the reason why I can't
Speaker 2: because I just know, I just know my heart of hearts,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be shocked. He goes out there and
Speaker 2: balls out throse three touchdowns. They beat the ship out
Speaker 2: of the Raiders and Gino's bench and that's the end
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 4: And it's and that's good because then we could fade
Speaker 4: the funk out of Schuur after that, and so like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a now you not now you're creeping into the
Speaker 4: way that that you know that my mind works on
Speaker 4: handicapin because pull back the curtain. If you don't know
Speaker 4: which most of you should be listened most, even is
Speaker 4: the numbers guy. I'm the situational guy. And this just
Speaker 4: feels like the fucking situation where sur is gonna go
Speaker 4: out there and just be like and get all the
Speaker 4: people who support him all the fuel they need to
Speaker 4: tell us all how great he is. And this was
Speaker 4: all he needed, was one. It's just it's just the
Speaker 4: perfect scenario. We've seen this story before, and we'll see
Speaker 4: what years ago.
Speaker 2: Five years ago, I would have called long horned idiot
Speaker 2: and I would have put Vegas in my survivor, like,
Speaker 2: you're all fucking crazy.
Speaker 3: He's terrible. I told you he's terrible. He's been terrible.
Speaker 2: Hold and then I would lose, and I'd be fucking
Speaker 2: mad because then I have to hear all the bullshit
Speaker 2: from all this SI.
Speaker 3: But I've learned.
Speaker 4: I've learned by because because that Tim Tebow would have
Speaker 4: went out there and just fucking fucking cluck.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've learned by listening to long Horn in situation
Speaker 2: with handiccapped the way does it.
Speaker 3: It's so funny. I kind of felt like you were.
Speaker 2: Gonna go that way with it because I had that
Speaker 2: I had that feelings like no, no, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: put because because I'm trying to like slide one under
Speaker 2: the table at the same time. You know, it'd be
Speaker 2: different if we've been playing like fucking uh the Rams,
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, of course the Rams must
Speaker 2: have fire picking.
Speaker 4: Well, even a team Rams, even a team like I
Speaker 4: don't know, fucking Minnesota. If they were at Minnesota, Minnesota
Speaker 4: on a good team, they throttle his ass like like,
Speaker 4: yeah would but yeah, I'm bad enough.
Speaker 3: They could lose them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're bad enough.
Speaker 2: They could lose him because fucking JJ could throw the
Speaker 2: game anything like Gino could literally throw four interceptions in
Speaker 2: this game. That door could have a crap game and
Speaker 2: they win, and everybody's gonna still tell me what a
Speaker 2: king he is and all this other ship.
Speaker 3: So yeah, because did.
Speaker 4: You say that fourth did you say that fourth quarter
Speaker 4: drive he had? Where he where he was three for five?
Speaker 2: Of course, Yeah, this is the perfect game for me
Speaker 2: to get a double nut kicking if I put them
Speaker 2: a musturviv.
Speaker 3: So I'm just not gonna do.
Speaker 4: It nineteen ninety five though, homeboy, that's the odd.
Speaker 2: The odds would greatly increase for me to win the
Speaker 2: overall prize.
Speaker 4: I think you should. I think you should still think
Speaker 4: about that's a thirty year trend.
Speaker 3: That man that makes them there. I can hear the
Speaker 3: ESPN in my head right now. No, b oh my god,
Speaker 3: three years has done this, and yet y'all said this
Speaker 3: man could play.
Speaker 2: Y'all said, this man a fucking analysts on the ESPN.
Speaker 3: We'll call all of.
Speaker 4: Us, what's what's the black dude? What's the race Vader?
Speaker 4: Black dude? No mean, there's several of them.
Speaker 3: Ryan Clark, Yes, right right.
Speaker 4: He'll be like, look, this is uh, this is the
Speaker 4: start of a of a great career. And and all
Speaker 4: he needed was yeah, you're one hundred percent. No one's
Speaker 4: done this in thirty years. That proves that he was
Speaker 4: worth being the first round pick. Mal Chiver was right,
Speaker 4: he should have bl No, never mind, don't do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't take that double nut kick.
Speaker 2: And I just can't because I can just not turn
Speaker 2: the TV on and ignore all that ship. But it's
Speaker 2: harder to do that when you just lost a chance
Speaker 2: one hundred grand because he just cost.
Speaker 3: Me one hundred grand.
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't do that. But it won't be on one
Speaker 4: of my three TVs. That's musty TV.
Speaker 3: Now it will. It will be the most watch game
Speaker 3: this entire week.
Speaker 4: Oh my God, is that if.
Speaker 3: There was a bet on that, I would guarantee that.
Speaker 4: Is that a noon game?
Speaker 3: Surely not?
Speaker 4: Wait No, they're in Vegas? Yeah, called sweet sweet, So
Speaker 4: you got we we got Jags, Cardinals. No one's watching
Speaker 4: Browns Raiders.
Speaker 3: Do you think that Browns Raiders beats Eagles Cowboys?
Speaker 4: No? No, just because it's Cowboys. But I mean, you
Speaker 4: only got four games and two of them are ship
Speaker 4: and then you got Cowboys Eagles and shockingly, Browns Raiders.
Speaker 4: Must see TV clip that and let's let's watch that TV.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're there, they will Yeah, you're right, they won't
Speaker 2: beat the Eagles cows because nothing beats Eagles.
Speaker 3: Cows, nothing beat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe this year it's still cows. Man, You sure there?
Speaker 4: Ain't that fucking he ain't that popular?
Speaker 3: He's pretty goddamn popular.
Speaker 2: I'll say that he's very He's the most polarizing player
Speaker 2: in the NFL, that's for sure, and that equals fucking ratings.
Speaker 3: All right, let's move on from that ship ass game.
Speaker 3: Who cares uh? To those Arizona midgetless Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Hosting ma Jacksonville Jaguars Now preseason Vegas said Arizona minus
Speaker 2: three on this one. I think I've had Arizona probably
Speaker 2: minus five at least, but not to be We're sitting
Speaker 2: at three points.
Speaker 3: Let's call it two point seventy five across the board
Speaker 3: on but there's threes out there there that are expensive,
Speaker 3: and there's two and a half that are dead even
Speaker 3: money on the Cardinals. So you said three, right, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll graded at three.
Speaker 4: Okay. This is the speak speaking of games that are
Speaker 4: sure to fuck me real hard like this, this is
Speaker 4: this is definitely one of them. Because I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: on Arizona and I don't know what let's let's let's
Speaker 4: call it a big dick pick, but I'm gonna save
Speaker 4: the sounder for for a later game that I feel
Speaker 4: like is more of a stronger feel for me. But
Speaker 4: let me get a unit on the plus three for
Speaker 4: Arizona and a half unit on them to win this
Speaker 4: because I just Jacksonville. You can have them, you call them,
Speaker 4: You're a Jacksonville Jet, you can fucking have them, like
Speaker 4: this is a this is a jacquelin Hyde fucking team.
Speaker 3: So now they're actually winning, I'm definitely blaming them.
Speaker 4: And I and I want like Arizona's fucking me bad.
Speaker 4: All right, Arizona's fucking me bad already, because as soon
Speaker 4: as I as soon as I get the feel with
Speaker 4: Walter Nolan coming back to their defense, that this is
Speaker 4: their time to shine, they just start getting injuries and
Speaker 4: injuries and injuries on their on their other defensive players
Speaker 4: that we're not seeing the real thing here. And now
Speaker 4: we've got Marvin Harrison. I know Harrison's still out, but
Speaker 4: I don't care. I don't care. You're at home against
Speaker 4: Goldielocks and Jacksonville, like you can, this is a game
Speaker 4: that again I don't I'm not gonna have the numbers
Speaker 4: to back it up, although I do have one good trend.
Speaker 4: I don't have the numbers to back to back this
Speaker 4: play up other than I've just seen this a million
Speaker 4: times before and Jacksonville. Jacksonville's coming off of a blowout win,
Speaker 4: and they're they're not a good team. They're just not
Speaker 4: a good team. They're just not a very good football team. Now,
Speaker 4: I think Arizona's better what they've been shown in the last
Speaker 4: couple of weeks. I think we get more of that
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys type effort and game from Arizona. The one
Speaker 4: and the one trend that pushed me from liking Arizona
Speaker 4: to actually making them. You know, a game I'm putting
Speaker 4: on units on them on the podcast is and it's
Speaker 4: is an obscure wild trend. So like, take this whipe
Speaker 4: rass with it, throw it in the garbage because it
Speaker 4: probably means nothing, but you know, when you're looking for things,
Speaker 4: you're looking for things. Teams coming off a huge blowout win,
Speaker 4: which Jacksonville did last week thirty five is to whatever
Speaker 4: that was against the Chargers, and the previous week they
Speaker 4: had a huge fourth quarter collapse and I don't remember
Speaker 4: what the cutoff was. I think it was like a
Speaker 4: fourteen point collapse loss which they did against against eighteen.
Speaker 4: I know, actually I think it was more than that,
Speaker 4: but I think I think the cutoff what had to
Speaker 4: be like more than like fourteen points or more fourth
Speaker 4: quarter blowing of a lead, which they did against Houston
Speaker 4: two weeks prior. In that next third game, owens on
Speaker 4: the road, owens seven ats. What does that mean? Probably nothing,
Speaker 4: but it's enough for me to be like, Okay, I
Speaker 4: like Arizona. Anyways, I'm getting to three. Now, let me
Speaker 4: bang them in, you know, to win this game a
Speaker 4: little bit and sprinkle some on there. So I just
Speaker 4: don't trust Jacksonville at all. I hate their quarterback. I
Speaker 4: know the coach hates his quarterback. So you know, just
Speaker 4: I don't know. Go go get this win, Arizona. You're
Speaker 4: better than your what's thever You're better than three and seven?
Speaker 4: Like they're not a good team, but they're just fucking
Speaker 4: better than three and seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have a full agree with me.
Speaker 2: Powering is have Arizona SnO call on the B two
Speaker 2: forty seven and a half in the total. I've got
Speaker 2: Arizona winning this game twenty six to twenty three and
Speaker 2: probably up your units on the money line there. Uh now,
Speaker 2: it's not a great game for I forget his name
Speaker 2: in the home the quarterback. I just said it, fucking
Speaker 2: Obersett Yell.
Speaker 3: Who's half half a point?
Speaker 2: Uh my boy, TLS is a full point and both
Speaker 2: the running games should be flat.
Speaker 3: So again, look, Jacksonville is not good enough to go
Speaker 3: on the road in lay points the fucking air. They're
Speaker 3: just not in this spot. Screams, screams, screams Arizona. Like
Speaker 3: you said, that's the win of the year for Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: They're at home a playoff team comes calling and you
Speaker 2: blow their goddamn doors off.
Speaker 3: It was never even a football game.
Speaker 2: That's the kind that's the kind of win that lingers
Speaker 2: a little bit for a team that is it used
Speaker 2: to winning Number one and.
Speaker 3: Number two is not good enough to have that wins.
Speaker 3: It's it's a total. It's like, it's different if you're a.
Speaker 2: Really good team like the Rams or Seattle, you beat
Speaker 2: the ship out of somebody.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you win, You're expected to win. You know you're
Speaker 3: gonna win.
Speaker 2: Whatever they can put they can apartmentalize that, put it away,
Speaker 2: go back to work. And Jacksonville and them boys have
Speaker 2: been they've been fucking celebrating that shit all goddamn week.
Speaker 2: And now you're gonna go play a shitbird like Arizona.
Speaker 2: It just screams there and everything screams their zone. The
Speaker 2: numbers are with us with Arizona. You got a great
Speaker 2: trend there with Arizona. It's Arizona, Arizona, Arizona.
Speaker 4: Two players that might two players that might play for
Speaker 4: Arizona that I'm begging, or at least one of them I'm
Speaker 4: begging to come back. Will Johnson, their cornerback first round
Speaker 4: pick out of uh maybe second pick. I can't remember
Speaker 4: out of Michigan.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: They need him back. He was bawling out. He was
Speaker 4: a huge part of their defensive success early love would
Speaker 4: love to get him back. He's questionable. Trey Bnson running back,
Speaker 4: They've had running back issues. They're done like their third
Speaker 4: and fourth people. If Trey Benson can come back, give
Speaker 4: them us little bit of a spark on offense, maybe
Speaker 4: they can mitigate some of their their loss without without
Speaker 4: Marma Harrison. So, I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we both live in Arizona. Everything pluts at Arizona.
Speaker 2: So Jacksonville wins by twenty I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, moren't like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Cardinals. Give me Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Right, let's move on to those new all At Saints Hustings,
Speaker 2: not so hot Lanta Falcons, No Mo Kirk coach, m
Speaker 2: not really.
Speaker 3: I got nothing in this game. But if you do
Speaker 3: take it away, we're up to though money money, money,
Speaker 3: money coming. Just everybody's just can't wait to just turn
Speaker 3: their hard earned cash in and say give me the
Speaker 3: New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2: And I sucked shuck was this fucking line is all
Speaker 2: the way up to two? Two and a half, a draftings,
Speaker 2: two and a half at Bobada, all of this money,
Speaker 2: all this Cousins hate. It's almost like I feel like
Speaker 2: this might be the Cusin spot, just like it might
Speaker 2: be the saying it's felt like everybody's shitty on Kirk.
Speaker 2: Kirk can't play, Kirk wears khaki pants, Kirk's a dork. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we know, and we know he's not good. But we're
Speaker 2: laying too, and we're laying two and a half points
Speaker 2: with the worst football team in the NFL.
Speaker 3: I know, I don't know, man.
Speaker 4: I hear I hear you there, but I can't go
Speaker 4: with it because Cousins is zero and four in his
Speaker 4: last four games against against the Saints, no matter where
Speaker 4: he's been. Yeah, it's it's I don't know why, because
Speaker 4: it's not the Saints have been good for a while
Speaker 4: so and and Kirk's been on some, you know, fairly
Speaker 4: decent teams in his last four games. I'm sure sure
Speaker 4: there's some decent teams that Cousin was on. So some
Speaker 4: sort of like weird matchup thing here, that's the only
Speaker 4: thing keeping me off. I don't even want to This
Speaker 4: is always this is always my my one of my
Speaker 4: deciding factors like do I feel comfortable teasing up Atlanta?
Speaker 4: And shockingly enough, I don't. I think no one can
Speaker 4: can win this game by double digits, and that is
Speaker 4: fucking wild as fun to say. So yeah, I got
Speaker 4: the same feeling, and that's why I won't be on
Speaker 4: really anything with this game. I'm staying the fun way
Speaker 4: the fuck away, because you're right. The narrative is that,
Speaker 4: uh and and the money is proving it that it's
Speaker 4: all New Orleans and Cousins is cooked and he might
Speaker 4: be cooked.
Speaker 2: He list totals going up too, so like it was
Speaker 2: thirty and a half, it's up to forty and a half.
Speaker 2: So people are lettings saying, hey, you know that shook
Speaker 2: last time. That's the other thing. The last time we
Speaker 2: saw I suck shuck, he threw for three hundred fucking
Speaker 2: yards in like three touchdowns.
Speaker 3: So it's the perfect like storm of narratives.
Speaker 4: What does beijon great out in this game?
Speaker 2: I didn't grade it because like because like I didn't
Speaker 2: evenigrate it. So oh well, I do have this too, sorry,
Speaker 2: I do have two things in here. Uh okay, So
Speaker 2: off the bye.
Speaker 3: Home favorites not a great spot. We've talked about this.
Speaker 2: Twenty two twenty nine to two forty three percent spread
Speaker 2: now off the buy home favorites, and it's in the
Speaker 2: division since twenty twenty one, seven twelve and two thirty
Speaker 2: six point eight percent on an average on of six though,
Speaker 2: but they're not covering that by one point eight points.
Speaker 2: They are winning by four point four straight up. But
Speaker 2: again that's a six point favorite on average, So two
Speaker 2: trends that definitely go to Atlanta's. Look, I'm not touching
Speaker 2: this game with a ten foot pole, all right, There's
Speaker 2: a zero chance I would ever bet New Orleans.
Speaker 4: Look, I just this is PFF rankings. This is this
Speaker 4: is not like they're not doing like Calculus over there,
Speaker 4: This is not This is not the most advanced rankings,
Speaker 4: but I use them for for, you know, stuff like this.
Speaker 4: Checked out the rush defense rankings of all the thirty
Speaker 4: two teams and they come in number eight. So if
Speaker 4: they can shut slow down the Atlanta running game, Drake
Speaker 4: London is out in the passing game, and you got
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins who might be cooked, and even when he
Speaker 4: hasn't been, is zero to four against in his last
Speaker 4: four against his Saints. And that's why yeah, so like
Speaker 4: every like now, I don't feel comfortable betting the Saints
Speaker 4: because they suck.
Speaker 2: Access rate for New Orleans on the season is eleven,
Speaker 2: so it's not terrible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's why all the money is coming in on.
Speaker 3: The state nine.
Speaker 2: By the way, so I would imagine that if New
Speaker 2: Orleans has any running backs left, they should have a
Speaker 2: decent day.
Speaker 4: Well they don't. Yeah, the Marl's been shitty and their
Speaker 4: whole offensive running game has been shitty.
Speaker 2: And let's see Atlanta's seventeenth success straight against dropback New
Speaker 2: Orleans twenty six.
Speaker 3: So cousins can have a chance, he can have a
Speaker 3: chance to cook. If he's not.
Speaker 4: Cooked, go out there and get you some cousins. You
Speaker 4: like that, you like that, go do it all.
Speaker 3: Right, let's we want to do a game that people
Speaker 3: actually care about.
Speaker 2: It's those delf cow Boy hosting those cop dail Philadelphia
Speaker 2: Eagles now preseason line on this Philly minus four and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 3: I believe it's where we opened that. Uh yeah, we're
Speaker 3: down to three.
Speaker 2: It is just been cow cow cow cow, cal ca
Speaker 2: cal ca cow. And anytime that starts happening, Longhorn, you
Speaker 2: know which way, you know which way you should go?
Speaker 3: What do you like here?
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, did I miss something? It's it's you're
Speaker 4: saying I should be going against the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: I mean, anytime everybody gets all cow crazy.
Speaker 4: You're out of your fucking mind. Because this is the
Speaker 4: real big dick pick of the week.
Speaker 2: Donna pop off a piece of my dick, floppy donkey dick.
Speaker 4: Sire, fucking with my dick, nice dick. I'm gonna put
Speaker 4: my dick in. Yeah, Cowboys, gonna put it all the
Speaker 4: way in those Philadelphia Eagles. Now, is this three or
Speaker 4: three and a half? What do you grade me out here?
Speaker 3: Three?
Speaker 4: All right? Half? I know that sucks. It's just one
Speaker 4: of the Just like the Giants last week, I could
Speaker 4: have gotta win with Steven. I feel like this is
Speaker 4: gonna be right on that line. Let's just do one
Speaker 4: unit then at the plus three and a half unit
Speaker 4: on Cows to win, because I do think they're a
Speaker 4: live doll here. First of all, let's just start with
Speaker 4: the Philly defense versus the Cowboy offense. And we saw
Speaker 4: them earlier in this earlier this year before plusling fifty. Okay, now,
Speaker 4: I know Dyln Carter was down in that game and
Speaker 4: huge factor. I'm not gonna like try to even downplay
Speaker 4: that's a huge, huge factor.
Speaker 2: But like, seriously, as an interior defensive lineman, that dude
Speaker 2: has just become a fuck. I mean, I always always
Speaker 2: been good, but like now he doesn't just rush, he
Speaker 2: doesn't just stuffering.
Speaker 3: I watched him bat down.
Speaker 2: Like four fucking balls last game, Like he does everything
Speaker 2: up front.
Speaker 3: He's turned into like Aaron Domerd.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly what's turned out. I mean I remember
Speaker 4: seeing this this like interior defensive lineman don't really stand out,
Speaker 4: especially in college, and I remember him being a sophomore
Speaker 4: before he's even draft eligible at Georgia with first rounders
Speaker 4: all over that off that defensive line for Georgia, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, who the fuck is eighty eight? Who the
Speaker 4: fuck is that dude? Because he looks different than all
Speaker 4: the other guys, and you know, just this that's such
Speaker 4: a weird position. And right now he's ranking at oh god,
Speaker 4: where is he ranked? Jordan Davis is actually in the
Speaker 4: top fifteen defensive tackles, and you know what, I don't
Speaker 4: see him. He might not have him. Okay, he's thirty two,
Speaker 4: so he's not having like a super graded PFF. But
Speaker 4: that doesn't fucking matter, Like, like just watch. It's one
Speaker 4: of those ones where we just got to watch the
Speaker 4: games and and maybe he's being undisciplined and getting out
Speaker 4: of lanes and they're knocking him for that, and you know,
Speaker 4: maybe that'll help me in the in this game if
Speaker 4: he can get out of lanes, be undisciplined, like spinning
Speaker 4: on people, that's undisciplined. So uh, I wonder how much
Speaker 4: how many PFF points he lost for that spit. Maybe
Speaker 4: that's what's hurting his period. You can't spit and just
Speaker 4: and just be highly rated on PFF. So no, Yeah,
Speaker 4: like the offense, the Cowboys offense, I think they can
Speaker 4: score like they just they're just that with with Pickens
Speaker 4: as their number one receiver, which he's turned into that
Speaker 4: he is a fucking monster and ceedee lamb. That's just
Speaker 4: a that's just an offense that can score on anybody.
Speaker 4: Now the other side, this is all about the additions
Speaker 4: to the Cowboys defense. And it's the reason we talked
Speaker 4: last week why I couldn't I couldn't like have a
Speaker 4: strong feeling either way with a Vegas Cowboy game because
Speaker 4: I didn't know what these all these new faces would
Speaker 4: be like for the Cowboys. They all played, and they
Speaker 4: all played, well, four new either starters or contributors to
Speaker 4: that Cowboys defense. I know, fair, that's fair, But uh is,
Speaker 4: does the Philly offense scare you? Is just this the
Speaker 4: offensive scares you? So? Like, I think this is gonna
Speaker 4: be a close game. They stink real bad that they
Speaker 4: had their chance last week to finally be like, Okay,
Speaker 4: we we can score. We just haven't been. You know,
Speaker 4: it's just, uh we we hold we're holding it in
Speaker 4: this week. And I'm drawn a black who did Philly
Speaker 4: plays last week? Damn it? It was a terrible defense,
Speaker 4: and it was a defense they should have scored on.
Speaker 4: I got it, you got it. Detroit bad defense, Yes
Speaker 4: they are. They're a fucking bad defense, and they should
Speaker 4: and they scored some, but it was still like one touchdown. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's pull and tee. It's pulling T. So never mind
Speaker 4: everything with them is pulling T.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think it could be closed. I think
Speaker 4: Dak with the ball at the end of the game,
Speaker 4: he's got a shot with those two receivers. I don't know,
Speaker 4: I'm you're telling me, I'm wrong. So so why don't
Speaker 4: you take it away and tell me, tell me why
Speaker 4: my my big, big big pick is wrong.
Speaker 3: Well, numbers wise, I can't really tell you that.
Speaker 2: So now the Power does have Philly, but again that
Speaker 2: I didn't adjust the Cows up much for that Vegas win, so.
Speaker 3: Maybe I'm wrong on that.
Speaker 2: But I didn't adjust Philly at all for the Detroit
Speaker 2: win because they game played out exact how we thought
Speaker 2: it would, so that didn't know Jesph Philly small bump
Speaker 2: up for Dallas just because of the new personnel. They
Speaker 2: did beat the shit out of the Raiders on the
Speaker 2: road after the buye. It's not a good spot, so
Speaker 2: I did give him a small bump, but still not
Speaker 2: close enough to cover the spread and the butt.
Speaker 3: The B two is a no call. I thought I
Speaker 3: was gonna be under in this game, to be honest
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 2: But total sitting at forty seven and a half, I've
Speaker 2: got the Cowboys winning twenty four to twenty three. That's
Speaker 2: right on forty seven and a half points. So obviously
Speaker 2: the BBG likes Dallas.
Speaker 3: But here's the bad point about this.
Speaker 2: Is dak loses a point to the BBG. Jalen hurt
Speaker 2: is great, gains a point in a half. Now, again,
Speaker 2: we've only seen one week of that. Now I am waiting.
Speaker 2: I'm waiting the last four weeks as a running total
Speaker 2: heavier than the rest of the season, So I am
Speaker 2: taking account more of the more recent performances. But we've
Speaker 2: only seen one week to your point with the new defense.
Speaker 2: So maybe in a couple weeks that catches up. And
Speaker 2: maybe that's where it misses here and the Cowboys, though,
Speaker 2: the running game is gonna be flat and it's not
Speaker 2: great to begin with, and Barkley should have a decent
Speaker 2: game here.
Speaker 3: He gains a point of the BPG there. We saw
Speaker 3: the first game.
Speaker 2: It kind of get away from Philly a little bit,
Speaker 2: but early on in that game, Barkley was getting whatever
Speaker 2: he wanted every time they handed in the ball.
Speaker 4: Look, I can't if BD catches the ball or two
Speaker 4: they steal that one in Philly, and that's without Carter.
Speaker 3: So they did they did win. They beat Philadelphia.
Speaker 4: Oh they beat No, they lost that game.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's right.
Speaker 4: But if CD catches that, you know, if he.
Speaker 2: Gaves that ball, yeah, yeah, and that so I think
Speaker 2: they're pretty evenly matched.
Speaker 1: Teams.
Speaker 2: And again, I can't lay three points on the road
Speaker 2: against an offense that I know can score. They might struggle,
Speaker 2: they're going to struggle a little bit in this one.
Speaker 2: But again, twenty four points, that's what I got him
Speaker 2: projected score. When's the last time Philly scored twenty four
Speaker 2: fucking points.
Speaker 3: They can't score the ball. They can score the.
Speaker 4: Fucking ball, Ben a while.
Speaker 3: I mean, if we look it, Weld, just look at it,
Speaker 3: Just look at it. Where's fucking we There we go,
Speaker 3: It's look at Phillies fucking schedule. Here, let's see they've
Speaker 3: scored sixteen ten. Oh that's right, they.
Speaker 2: Scored thirty eight US of the Giants, and they scored
Speaker 2: twenty eight on the Vikings, whose defense have been slipping
Speaker 2: in seventeen seventeen. How the fuck did they scored? Oh
Speaker 2: the Rams game? That was that crazy punt return shit.
Speaker 2: I remember the Rams game.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, Block.
Speaker 3: And the Bucks were picked six. I think that one.
Speaker 4: They gotta have that shit to happen to get to
Speaker 4: get up the.
Speaker 2: First the first matchup, they won twenty four to twenty
Speaker 2: at home. I've got Dallas won in twenty four to
Speaker 2: twenty three. Here sounds about right for a cow cover
Speaker 2: to me, especially if you can get that hook. Now,
Speaker 2: the money, let's see which way it's coming in. I
Speaker 2: think it was coming in on Philly. Uh, let's see
Speaker 2: where we're at here now. Nope, it's shifted big time
Speaker 2: to the cows. So money coming to the cows. I
Speaker 2: don't think we get back to that three and a half.
Speaker 2: So I think I think everybody's starting to go your
Speaker 2: way along.
Speaker 4: We gotta get back to those Wednesday night podcasts so
Speaker 4: I can get these half point hooks. This is fucking me.
Speaker 2: I'm not a I'm not disagreeing with you at all.
Speaker 2: I just I hate the spot because historically, now at
Speaker 2: the wind we still got three and a half, and
Speaker 2: at bet Rivers and at bet us, so there's still
Speaker 2: a few three and a half's out there.
Speaker 3: Some online books you can't grab.
Speaker 2: They're very expensive, they're all minus one twenty. But I
Speaker 2: would spend that ten since to get that fucking hook
Speaker 2: if it was me. But all that being said, the numbers.
Speaker 3: Agree with you.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you, but this is one of
Speaker 2: those spot plays where historically, man, it's you just know
Speaker 2: when the cows getting all the love you know. It's
Speaker 2: it's like the Philly Game the first time wearing when
Speaker 2: everybody's like, all Philly's gonna kill us, They're gonna kill
Speaker 2: all the Cowboys fans were, you know, destruction death, We suck,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Then they go in there almost pull it off.
Speaker 2: Right, and then the whole narrative changes, Oh yeah, we
Speaker 2: might be pretty good by and then they go lose
Speaker 2: to whoever some ship burn.
Speaker 3: Oh we fucking suck.
Speaker 2: And then you're all the way back high and you
Speaker 2: go lose the Carolina Like that's just that's.
Speaker 4: What the cas Yeah, they do, they do the roller coaster.
Speaker 4: But I don't, I don't know that. I means there
Speaker 4: are a lot of people picking them the Windows game,
Speaker 4: Like I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously there's a lot of money coming.
Speaker 4: In on on the spread perspective, yep, they don't have
Speaker 4: to win, say the money.
Speaker 3: Let's see on the money line where the money is
Speaker 3: coming in at.
Speaker 4: Dude, Oh my god, I think Josh Josh Allen's gonna
Speaker 4: get sacked like nineteen times in this game. Is fucking.
Speaker 3: Is a split here?
Speaker 2: So overall on the money line, eighty four percent of
Speaker 2: the money on the Eagles on the money line. But
Speaker 2: there's more money than tickets on the money line for
Speaker 2: the Cows.
Speaker 4: So I like my spot. I like my spot.
Speaker 3: I hate your spot. I like what the data says,
Speaker 3: and I liked that.
Speaker 2: And I also like the fact that you know, you're
Speaker 2: still talking about dag Bursus Division and Dak still owns
Speaker 2: this fucking division, and in particular, I mean he doesn't
Speaker 2: lose the Eagles twice in the season, not generally.
Speaker 3: So uh that all that I liked for you.
Speaker 2: I just don't if they a were to fucking barely
Speaker 2: beat the Raiders or if they'd have lost the Raiders,
Speaker 2: I couldn't have handed you more money to put down
Speaker 2: on the fucking Cows this week. That's yeah, this really
Speaker 2: kind of hold me back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the line would have been five and a half,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 3: Oh, no doubt.
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to those Los Angeles Rams,
Speaker 2: those tampaub fakes.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: Preseason on this rams mind us two and.
Speaker 2: A half, we were sitting at six and a half
Speaker 2: last I checked it earlier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, six and that Oh and money still coming on
Speaker 3: the Rams. Seven just popped at Bovada Lodi. Uh. Seven
Speaker 3: at South point seven at bet us. So if you
Speaker 3: want six and a half and you.
Speaker 2: Like the Rams, you better walk in and grab it
Speaker 2: now because it's going to seven.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this and that's why. And we already played the sounder,
Speaker 4: so this this won will be another sounder. But this
Speaker 4: is the other danger zone game of the week, Like,
Speaker 4: how is this not a danger zone game? All the
Speaker 4: money going against Baker and the Bucks all like of
Speaker 4: this has to be Now am I getting six and
Speaker 4: a half or am I getting seven? Is the big question?
Speaker 3: Uh, you know what, I'll give you seven on this one.
Speaker 4: And I'm getting seven. I want to units on Bucks
Speaker 4: plus seven and then I'm only gonna sprinkle a quarter
Speaker 4: unit because I mean, the Rams are just it's hard
Speaker 4: to pick them to lose a game. But you gotta
Speaker 4: sprinkles dumbing. You gotta sprinkles dumbing. You just you just
Speaker 4: can't be a pussy.
Speaker 2: If you're if you're and that's just a pro tip.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna bet a dog to win or to
Speaker 2: cover in this.
Speaker 4: League, you just have to. We've learned. That's one of
Speaker 4: the things that we learned doing this that we didn't
Speaker 4: know before. Okay, quarter unit. Yeah, so yeah, like you
Speaker 4: just have to, Like, I mean, how do I not.
Speaker 4: They might get Bucky Irving back, they might get God
Speaker 4: went back, not for sure on either one of them.
Speaker 4: So again, we're recording this on Thursday. There's risk in
Speaker 4: that putting this out there. But even with that said,
Speaker 4: Baker coming off, you know, a couple of losses, a
Speaker 4: couple against the spread losses, and against Buffalo with five
Speaker 4: minutes left, they had a one point lead. Five minutes left,
Speaker 4: they had a one point lead and lost by twelve. Like,
Speaker 4: so I have to feel like this line, now, I
Speaker 4: would stay, I would think this line's inflated, but obviously
Speaker 4: it wasn't because where it's open from and where it's at, it.
Speaker 3: Just keeps going up, and it keeps going up, I know.
Speaker 4: So just I don't know, man, Like maybe I'm walking
Speaker 4: into this and and and this is just but I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't close my eyes and see a rams blown
Speaker 4: out the bucks. I just I can't see that happening.
Speaker 4: I really can't. So, I mean, you tell them what
Speaker 4: the numbers say, but I'm gonna be on the plus
Speaker 4: deven for sure. And I think this is gonna be
Speaker 4: a close game. This is a Sunday night game. Correct, yep,
Speaker 4: Now I will say this and I didn't, right, Why
Speaker 4: did I not write down this trend? Because I know
Speaker 4: I heard it. Baker at Night is awful. It is
Speaker 4: not his spot. I don't know what, No, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe we need to like, let's let's earmark this and
Speaker 4: and uh, I don't do you have a way to
Speaker 4: do you have a way to do that? Or do
Speaker 4: I need to go back and get that for the
Speaker 4: next future. Pause? But for whatever reason, Baker in primetime
Speaker 4: is not a good spot. So that gives me worry,
Speaker 4: and maybe that's part of the reason, among other things,
Speaker 4: why the line is shooting up so much. But prove
Speaker 4: him wrong. Baker go out there, keep his game close
Speaker 4: on a Sunday night and maybe steal it. Maybe still
Speaker 4: a win. I don't think I could pull it by
Speaker 4: I'll I'll find where I got that trend and definitely
Speaker 4: have it going forward because it wasn't nothing. It was
Speaker 4: kind of significant Baker at Night, which is under the
Speaker 4: radar and no one's talking about it. So let's let's
Speaker 4: let's all get that for next for going forward, and
Speaker 4: we'll keep an eye on that and we'll stay out
Speaker 4: of plays out in this game.
Speaker 2: Okay, so power rings of this one has Tampa Bay
Speaker 2: vto win or not not write that down, it's on
Speaker 2: the Rams.
Speaker 3: And then I kind of like the under here on
Speaker 3: this one.
Speaker 2: I've got the Rams winning this twenty five to nineteen,
Speaker 2: which is right on the sixth grader at six and
Speaker 2: a half because that's the most prevalent number, so that's
Speaker 2: really a no call there, but it is under the
Speaker 2: forty nine and a half. The reason being is and
Speaker 2: this is probably why the money keeps coming on the Rams. Now,
Speaker 2: Stafford grains up pretty well against a points of the BPG.
Speaker 2: It's not a good matchup for Baker. This is a
Speaker 2: full point. The RAMS Running Game grades out his flat,
Speaker 2: so it won't be a detriment the Bucks lose a
Speaker 2: half a point for the Running Game. It's just gonna
Speaker 2: be tough sledding for Tampa to score in this game.
Speaker 2: There's another reason why I like the under there. And
Speaker 2: you know, Tampa Bay's defense has been better than advertise,
Speaker 2: especially lately, and it's not a great matchup for the
Speaker 2: RAMS Running Game, which we all know limits that offense
Speaker 2: for what McVey likes to call, and Stafford grades out go,
Speaker 2: but it's not like it's not his best grade. I
Speaker 2: kind of like the Rams to win a close game,
Speaker 2: stay within the six to seven points.
Speaker 3: I like the under here. I haven't bet the under.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to see which way that's going. But if
Speaker 2: I had to pick anything, I have more confidence a
Speaker 2: little bit in the total part of it, just because
Speaker 2: again I think both of these teams still send at
Speaker 2: forty nine and a half forty nine flat only in
Speaker 2: one spot, So there's been no movement on this line.
Speaker 2: I think that's what I was waiting on to begin with.
Speaker 2: But if you look at you know, the defense for
Speaker 2: both these teams, overall success rate is there great this
Speaker 2: one through The Rams are eleventh, Tampa Bay's thirteenth. So
Speaker 2: I mean I got two better than average defenses, not
Speaker 2: a good matchup for one of the quarterbacks or the
Speaker 2: running game, So that's gonna make that better than average
Speaker 2: defense look keeping better.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just think I think it's gonna
Speaker 3: be lower scoring than what people are banking on. So
Speaker 3: and you know, if I had gotten to head, of course.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Baker, and then especially if I get seven,
Speaker 2: I've got it. Grated at six, so small bit of
Speaker 2: value there now.
Speaker 3: And Tampa Bay has the they've got the power rekings too,
Speaker 3: so power ranking and the BBG genuinely equals a bet
Speaker 3: for me. The only thing that scared me off of
Speaker 3: it is the money just continues to fucking pour in
Speaker 3: on those goddamn rams, which is why I have not
Speaker 3: put Tampa Bay in as of yet. Now against the
Speaker 3: seven and a half, maybe you might have talk.
Speaker 4: That that'll be fucking wild if it goes from where
Speaker 4: it was all the way through seven through fucking seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be fucking wild.
Speaker 2: I mean talking about the most expensive You go from
Speaker 2: six to six and a half to seven to seven
Speaker 2: and a half. That's some of the most expensive movement you'll.
Speaker 3: Ever see in an NFL game without an injury anyway.
Speaker 4: Which makes it a perfect teaser play.
Speaker 3: Then perfect teaser play. Uh yeah, I like that a lot.
Speaker 3: All right, let's move on. It's but enough.
Speaker 2: Up up boy got those San Francisco forty nineas thotens
Speaker 2: curl lot of panthers.
Speaker 3: This one I didn't write anything Ephis pre.
Speaker 2: Season line was, uh, sat mine of seven, guess what
Speaker 2: it's San fran Mintus seven so we're right where we
Speaker 2: thought were rapping a beat on this one. Uh total
Speaker 2: forty at forty eight and a half as went up,
Speaker 2: I know that. Uh let's see where're sitting at accurate
Speaker 2: total here?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're a it's forty nine and a half and
Speaker 3: at fifty at the westgates. So people expect the points
Speaker 3: long horn. We want a goddamn shootout in this one.
Speaker 3: Are we gonna get it? Well?
Speaker 4: I don't know about a shootout, but I who the
Speaker 4: fuck knows what you get with these teams? And seriously,
Speaker 4: we've talked about you know the sweet spot to bet
Speaker 4: San Franz is coming off a loss. Well, it's kind
Speaker 4: of turning into the sweet spot to not bet them
Speaker 4: is coming off a win. If you look at their
Speaker 4: their win you know their win loss record. You bet
Speaker 4: them off a loss, you fade them off a win.
Speaker 4: So you got that favoring Carolina, but uh oh, we
Speaker 4: got Carolina. They suck on the road, they suck. Coming
Speaker 4: off a game, they score thirty plus points two and
Speaker 4: thirteen ats or last fifteen coming off a game they
Speaker 4: score thirty plus points. It is not possible you have
Speaker 4: two unbettable teams here. You have to, but I have
Speaker 4: to pick somebody and Bryce Young. First of all, I
Speaker 4: watched that game last week against Atlanta. He threw he
Speaker 4: had a Carolina record, and listen to me when I
Speaker 4: tell you he was so fucking bad in that game.
Speaker 4: He threw for almost five hundred yards and he goes.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh my god, he was so fucking bad.
Speaker 4: In that game, and somehow broke a Carolina record. I
Speaker 4: can't I can't explain it. Hit him in the head
Speaker 4: as goes sideways, hit him on the other side of
Speaker 4: the head. They go, I don't know what do you.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do with me. I don't
Speaker 4: know what to do with this fucking this game. So
Speaker 4: I'd always default to give me free points in a
Speaker 4: game that I can't figure out what to do with.
Speaker 4: So give me the free points on a force lean.
Speaker 4: But I've got no interest in playing this game. Yep.
Speaker 3: I got nothing here. I I got nothing, So I
Speaker 3: don't have any interest in this game at all whatsoever.
Speaker 3: Like you said, who knows what to do? These teams
Speaker 3: Carolina definitely trending towards beating my total, though mhmm, I
Speaker 3: would say so have they already beat it?
Speaker 4: Six one?
Speaker 3: More can they get that. Let's let's this is the
Speaker 3: last thing we'll do. Who the podcast we get in there?
Speaker 2: At San fran seven point dogs not likely, Hosting the Rams,
Speaker 2: not likely. Oh, at the Saints after a bye.
Speaker 3: Possibility, Yeah, there you go. Hosting the Bucks, we'll see.
Speaker 3: Hosting the Seahawks not likely. At the Bucks.
Speaker 2: They've gotta lose one of those. So basically they're looking
Speaker 2: at I need New Orleans to beat them in Tampa
Speaker 2: to sweet them.
Speaker 4: I mean it. Don't tear your ticket up, don't tell
Speaker 4: your ticket.
Speaker 3: It's not impossible. I've seen, I've seen.
Speaker 4: I think I think you're cooked. Though I think you're cooked.
Speaker 3: I could be. But also they also could end up
Speaker 3: six and eleven. And I'm laughing my ass.
Speaker 4: Off, by the way, and I wrote this down because
Speaker 4: I wanted to go ahead and mention it. Guess who's
Speaker 4: taking the lead from Abuca and Tampa Bay for the
Speaker 4: wide receiver rookie receiving yards. Ted McMillan, the guy that
Speaker 4: everybody poop poot on, said, alright, he's even a first runner. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that motherfucker was always badass. And I don't know where
Speaker 4: they'll finish. Abuka might have a resurgence of the second half.
Speaker 4: But tet ken Ball.
Speaker 3: Don't look now, but his brother who plays for the
Speaker 3: Mighty Buffalo Bison in the MAC is I'm being dead serious.
Speaker 3: He's letting all of the back receivers and basically everything.
Speaker 4: I did not know this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna be the dude.
Speaker 4: Is he big? Is he a big guy? Also?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know if, but he looks bigger than
Speaker 3: everybody else in the Max. Wow?
Speaker 4: Fuck? Is he playing for Buffalo?
Speaker 3: Then? Probably because he's a retard.
Speaker 2: He couldn't make any grades, the same reason why our
Speaker 2: boy here or Fanning ended up in fucking Western Michigan
Speaker 2: for bowling green.
Speaker 3: For Christ's sake.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way, you talk about a fucking fine,
Speaker 2: We were all over that kid, and that dude has
Speaker 2: been a monster months.
Speaker 3: Great ship ass offense.
Speaker 4: Ted went to that educational powerhouse known as Arizona just
Speaker 4: under a Gale Princeton and Harvard. So he's he clearly
Speaker 4: was smarter brother the West, sir, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: No, So the reason why he got an Arizona's brother didn't.
Speaker 2: He could funnel beer literally under a second, and that
Speaker 2: is a prerequisite to getting in to.
Speaker 3: You of a I can promise you that Rookie of
Speaker 3: the year, Rookie of the year. All right, boys and goes.
Speaker 3: That was all then wents coming here tonight of man,
Speaker 3: all right, longhorning, it's time for everybody's favorite part of
Speaker 3: the show is some for those three I said, Max
Speaker 3: of the Week.
Speaker 4: Oh you're gonna love this one because we are, by
Speaker 4: the way, free picks this year. What are they my
Speaker 4: free picks one in ten paid. Yeah, they're one ten.
Speaker 4: If you're a fucking idiot, they're ten and one. If
Speaker 4: they're doing it, they're the right way. And oh, I've
Speaker 4: got the perfect game picked to test this fade Longhorn theory.
Speaker 4: We're going with those khalive land Brown's plus is it
Speaker 4: three and a half?
Speaker 3: Oh you four?
Speaker 4: Okay plus four? Cleveland Brown's free. We're testing it here.
Speaker 4: We are testing this theory. I'm almost like, I'm almost
Speaker 4: like tempting you to force you to put in. That's
Speaker 4: exactly why I vict him. I want you to put
Speaker 4: them in to that fucking survivor.
Speaker 2: Well, look when all the when all the black pundits
Speaker 2: are mad and on ESPN because his door's blown off, it's.
Speaker 3: This guy's fucking fault. It's all Longhorn's fault.
Speaker 4: Don't do it, though, I do not be responsible for
Speaker 4: one hundred thousand dollars being lost because of just please don't.
Speaker 4: I'm just what I'm just saying, but I'm saying, if
Speaker 4: it's there, all right.
Speaker 3: So I had to call audible mind.
Speaker 2: I have my free pick lined out, But I didn't
Speaker 2: realize that we already won that game tonight. So we
Speaker 2: were gonna go SFA laying thirty four and a half points,
Speaker 2: but oh my god, they closed at thirty seven.
Speaker 3: And a half. It wouldn't matter what number you got.
Speaker 3: They won sixty two to fourteen. So we'll take that victory.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna pivot, pivot. It's a Saint Francis and
Speaker 2: stone Hill. We're going under the forty, boys and girls
Speaker 2: under the forty. I saw a staff today Saint Francis.
Speaker 2: This is I think they're eleventh game of the season,
Speaker 2: long horn. They've scored eleven touchdowns all year long, so
Speaker 2: we'll keep that won the game. Pace going take the
Speaker 2: under Saint Francis stone Hill. And then one last thing here,
Speaker 2: this has brought to my attention. I did not realize
Speaker 2: it until It was brought my attention.
Speaker 3: To one of our listeners.
Speaker 2: They said, hey, you haven't given out a single fucking
Speaker 2: Pizza Minne parlor on the podcast all year. And I
Speaker 2: was like, well, you haven't missed anything because I haven't
Speaker 2: won a single one all year.
Speaker 3: And they're like, well, maybe it's because you weren't giving
Speaker 3: them out.
Speaker 2: I was like, maybe, you know what, mathematically, when you're
Speaker 2: talking about winning and losing, you can't do worse than
Speaker 2: absolute zero.
Speaker 3: So fuck it, let's give it out.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go.
Speaker 2: With those are starting off with those Arkansas Razorbacks on
Speaker 2: the money line versus long Horns Longhorns.
Speaker 3: Look, Texas, this is really the only one. I got
Speaker 3: a handicap for long drawn out one.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Texas season died last week for all intensive purposes.
Speaker 2: In Georgia, Uh, they're gonna get up for one more game.
Speaker 2: It's when they go play the Aggies next week. They're
Speaker 2: gonna want to run their whole fucking existence and keep
Speaker 2: them out of the SEC championship game. They're not getting
Speaker 2: up for this game in Arkansas at all, or at
Speaker 2: home versus Arkansas at all, if you don't think so,
Speaker 2: They're only laying seven points. Arkansas is two and eight,
Speaker 2: by the way, two and eight in Texas Land seven points.
Speaker 2: Now on the clip side of that, Arkansas is the best,
Speaker 2: and I feel very competent to say they're the best
Speaker 2: two and eight.
Speaker 3: Team in the history of college football.
Speaker 2: How long heard you and I were talking about point
Speaker 2: differentials and teams getting lucky and blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: At two and eight, Arkansas's point differential is a positive eighteen.
Speaker 3: They won two games, and they have outscored their opponents
Speaker 3: on the year by eighteen points.
Speaker 4: Seemen possible.
Speaker 3: I mean, the way they lose games this year, I
Speaker 3: don't I don't know who the coach is gonna be
Speaker 3: next year. It's Patrino interim right now. I don't even
Speaker 3: know who the quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, It does not matter whatever Arkansas's win
Speaker 2: total is next year. I'm just betting the over because
Speaker 2: the amount of luck that has went against them this
Speaker 2: year is unbelievable. And we've probably had Arkansas on our
Speaker 2: card for four weeks in a row now with the
Speaker 2: spread they won every time, because all they do is
Speaker 2: get big spreads against them and lose close games and
Speaker 2: they fuck.
Speaker 3: It all they have snatched more defeats from the Jaws victory.
Speaker 2: I can't even count. It's it's been unfucking real. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm sure we're gonna be going in for the game.
Speaker 3: Any touchdown for this lag of the parlay, and they're
Speaker 3: gonna fumble in the five yard line in Texas a
Speaker 3: running back for a touchdown and.
Speaker 2: We fucking lose. But we're gonna take our shot here.
Speaker 2: I guess the longhorned team that again couldn't give a
Speaker 2: shit about this game. It means it literally means nothing
Speaker 2: to them, So win or lose. If they beat the
Speaker 2: Aggis next week, they'll have an outsiders chance and maybe
Speaker 2: getting the playoffs, but probably not.
Speaker 3: All they care about is ruining the Ague season at
Speaker 3: this point. Then we will fuck about those pick series
Speaker 3: from Arkansas.
Speaker 2: And then on the other leg, South Alabama at home
Speaker 2: hosting Southern Miss again, another spot where so the miss
Speaker 2: couldn't give a shit about this game does not matter.
Speaker 3: All they need to do is win next week and
Speaker 3: they are in the championship game for their conference.
Speaker 2: And then my Florida Gators plus one fifty nine on
Speaker 2: the money line hosting those Tennessee volunteers long Horn. The
Speaker 2: last ten times Tennessee has went to Florida, how many
Speaker 2: times you think they've covered the spread?
Speaker 4: Zero? Zero?
Speaker 3: How many times you think they've won straight up?
Speaker 4: Might go to zero?
Speaker 2: Bob zero, Bob, that is correct, answers those Florida Gators
Speaker 2: roll at home to to see again. They could give
Speaker 2: a shit. Their season's dead. Florida is still playing for
Speaker 2: at least some pride.
Speaker 3: So give me the Gators. Give me the one fifty
Speaker 3: nine package.
Speaker 2: All that together seven plus seventeen seventy four seventeen and
Speaker 2: a half to one ten dollars wins you one hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy seven dollars and forty cents.
Speaker 3: So pizza money parlay.
Speaker 2: Maybe since I've fuck did the podcast, maybe we can
Speaker 2: actually win one.
Speaker 3: We won three last year. Probably overshot our wide there
Speaker 3: a little bit. So we're getting the we're getting the
Speaker 3: name luck progression.
Speaker 4: It's due.
Speaker 3: I think it's due. I think it's due.
Speaker 2: Let's go, bab let's do that pizza money parlay all right,
Speaker 2: long Horn, tell them they can fan.
Speaker 3: I'll find all these I already got two wins of college,
Speaker 3: by the way, on the week so far. Finally, rest
Speaker 3: of college picks, NFL picks, fucking cks, prop picks, everything
Speaker 3: we got going on all fu I mean, I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it out loud. It's been
Speaker 2: a long time. It's been a long time since FGH
Speaker 2: hasn't had a good fucking week. Boys and girls, tell
Speaker 2: them where they find all one more time.
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