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<v Speaker 1>W Win Evan Win. I'll show you go bruinhead, except

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<v Speaker 1>with sim Sweet pursuing in dounld out shaw shank through

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<v Speaker 1>the sewer. Kid, Now what chilling at the eagle?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>We dooing in three you clyd On the Doc got

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<v Speaker 1>a habit for my house, a goat status. Howard's starting

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<v Speaker 1>to get craddic. Shows that up multiply like a rabbit

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<v Speaker 1>tuned in so out, crank it up, Pete the habit,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hang.

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<v Speaker 3>Out with, locking in on the Lady, Kat, Christine, all

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<v Speaker 3>up the lady, All right, Happy Friday, everybody.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the world famous Ben and skin Show, Ben Rogers,

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff skin Wade, for instance, nineteen eighty two growing up

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<v Speaker 4>here in Richardson, Texas. Kevin kt Turner, the Pride and

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<v Speaker 4>Joy of Only and Christina Kray little Baby corn Bread

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<v Speaker 4>Ray from the Oatmeal Pizza Band, which is just the

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<v Speaker 4>best Nrvana cover band on the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>We're happy to be hanging out with you on a Friday.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the best thing for us to start with

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<v Speaker 4>is just kind of move forward with the Lucas stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Weekends, it's probably time to put a bow on all that.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll maybe talk about it once or twice on the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of the show, But is there any lingering Lucas

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<v Speaker 4>stuff we need to button up before we move on?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm quiet.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm curious about y'all's thoughts on this because I've seen

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of discussion out there is did the Mavericks

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<v Speaker 5>do the right thing with the tribute video? And also

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<v Speaker 5>do you want to conflate it or make it a

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<v Speaker 5>different conversation about the shirts that said thank you and

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<v Speaker 5>Slovenian like, do you put those things together? Was one

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<v Speaker 5>appropriate where they both inappropriate? And knowing that there's nobody

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<v Speaker 5>that I have yet to meet a single person that

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<v Speaker 5>was for the trade, Okay, so I'm putting that aside.

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<v Speaker 5>The trade is made, he's coming. How do you handle it?

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<v Speaker 5>Did they do the right thing?

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<v Speaker 4>So there's people there's so I feel so bad for

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<v Speaker 4>people that work for the Mavericks because nobody in the

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<v Speaker 4>MAVs wanted this, but one guy or two guys, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>j Kid and Nico, they wanted this trade. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>my opinion, my take, And I don't think that their

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<v Speaker 4>new governor, even under it could have been a cricket league.

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<v Speaker 4>He had no idea he doesn't know anything about basketball.

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<v Speaker 4>So you have the trade happening, which probably is the

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<v Speaker 4>worst trade in the history of professional organized sports, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>in the history of the word trade, maybe worse than

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<v Speaker 4>any lunch room trade. That is, it may be the

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<v Speaker 4>worst trade ever in all of trading. And so because

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<v Speaker 4>of that, because people fell in love with their baby

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<v Speaker 4>unicorn that received the baton from their retiring unicorn, I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's so hard for people to move on. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's an unfair dilemma. As my point, like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think some people can process it and move forward.

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<v Speaker 4>For me, I have no problem with the love that

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<v Speaker 4>they showed Luca, because that's what should have been done.

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<v Speaker 3>Like thank you for everything.

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<v Speaker 4>The people who produced that didn't trade him, right, the

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<v Speaker 4>people who made that didn't trade him. The organization they

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<v Speaker 4>don't get to make that decision, so but they do

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<v Speaker 4>get to put something like that together to show that

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<v Speaker 4>they love him, and everyone in the house was there

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<v Speaker 4>to show him love.

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<v Speaker 5>So I don't have a problem with it. I think

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<v Speaker 5>before I get my thoughts, let's go around the horn.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you think they're kt.

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like we need certainty on I feel like

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<v Speaker 6>I want certainty and we don't need it. I want

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<v Speaker 6>certainty on like who's involved in what at all times

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<v Speaker 6>with every organization. We've done this with the Cowboys for

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<v Speaker 6>many years. Is Jerry in charge or not? Is it

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<v Speaker 6>Steven Jones and Will McLay. How much did McCarthy have

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<v Speaker 6>to do with decisions or Garrett? So I always like

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<v Speaker 6>want to know that stuff. I find all that to

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<v Speaker 6>be fascinating. And with this, obviously Nico's were in the

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<v Speaker 6>brunt of it. When it comes to a tribute video

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<v Speaker 6>or t shirts or anything that's posted on social media,

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<v Speaker 6>I always get the feeling that Nico has nothing to

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<v Speaker 6>do with any of that stuff, cause you know, we

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<v Speaker 6>all do you know YouTube shows for the MAVs, and

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<v Speaker 6>we put to create content. We think it's okay, and

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<v Speaker 6>you go read the comments and all the comments are

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<v Speaker 6>fire n Eico, and you're like, well, you didn't even

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<v Speaker 6>watch the show. You're just saying fire and Nico, that's

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<v Speaker 6>like disheartening to me. So I was just like, want

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<v Speaker 6>to know who's involved in what? And I feel pretty

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<v Speaker 6>certain that Nico and I would imagine the owner are

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<v Speaker 6>just not that involved in the idea of, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 6>going to do a video. I could be wrong, but

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like they're probably not. I'm separating that I guess.

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<v Speaker 5>Before I throw Okay, what do you think, Christina, Because

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<v Speaker 5>you saw the video, you were there in person?

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I felt like it was really needed because

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<v Speaker 2>we had him just ripped away from us and we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get to say bye, and he's finally back here.

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<v Speaker 2>So I thought it was necessary and I was hoping

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<v Speaker 2>it would give us all a little bit of closure.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure that's what they thought as well, like

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of get some closure from it, when it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of did the opposite, at least for me, it

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<v Speaker 2>really just made it all worse.

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<v Speaker 3>But I still loved it.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was it was great just to be

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<v Speaker 5>completely transparent on stuff. When I found out they were

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<v Speaker 5>giving away shirts, my immediate reaction was huh.

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<v Speaker 3>Um, I don't know about that. I don't know that

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<v Speaker 3>I would have made that decision.

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<v Speaker 5>But then when I walked into the arena and I

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<v Speaker 5>saw the shirts everywhere, it suddenly felt like something more

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<v Speaker 5>special and magnificent. And what I would say about the

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<v Speaker 5>video is I didn't even watch the full video as

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<v Speaker 5>it happened. I went back and watched it later because

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<v Speaker 5>I was so suddenly sucked into watching Luca's face right,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I was like, I mean, it just it

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<v Speaker 5>was so emotional and overwhelming, and I understand everyone's anger

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<v Speaker 5>and frustration, and I understand having the feeling going in

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<v Speaker 5>that how dare they do this?

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess what I would say is, after everyone witnessed

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<v Speaker 5>what actually happened with the video and what it did

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<v Speaker 5>to Luca and the performance afterwards, I don't really understand

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<v Speaker 5>having that same opinion afterwards, like you saw one of

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<v Speaker 5>the most special sports moments you've ever seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was Someone asked me, what was it like

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<v Speaker 3>calling the game.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, it was sad and weird and awesome,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I was so entranced with Luca all over again,

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<v Speaker 5>and I just kept thinking about watching him cry, watching

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<v Speaker 5>that video and then just killing it six of eight

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<v Speaker 5>from three, Like I've seen a lot of games that

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<v Speaker 5>are hyped up and the guy's got to go out

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<v Speaker 5>there and man, he's got the jitters. How many finals

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<v Speaker 5>games have you seen where they're both chunking up bricks

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<v Speaker 5>when the biggest lights are on you. So he thought

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<v Speaker 5>he emotionally couldn't handle what that place, and again Ben

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<v Speaker 5>said it, ninety nine percent of the people in the

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<v Speaker 5>Mavericks organization probably higher didn't want the trade.

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<v Speaker 3>They loved the man.

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<v Speaker 5>They're devastated, and they showed him how much they loved him,

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<v Speaker 5>and it moved him to tears. So like, I understand

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<v Speaker 5>being bitter and Jaden going, how dare they do that?

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<v Speaker 5>But I guess I'd say, did you not see what

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<v Speaker 5>the result of that was?

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<v Speaker 3>Dude?

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<v Speaker 4>It was so much love for him and so much

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<v Speaker 4>love from him back to everyone to have his lip

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<v Speaker 4>quivering and crying. Clearly he was never going to leave here.

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<v Speaker 4>He loved it here right right. And I saw Lakers

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<v Speaker 4>fans that were upset, going, man, act like you're glad

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<v Speaker 4>to be a Laker, you're crying about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Like God, he didn't want it.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't even want to be a Laker, I hear.

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<v Speaker 5>I also heard people that I really like and respect

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<v Speaker 5>saying things like they purposely cut out a bunch of

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<v Speaker 5>basketball and man, they had to shorten it. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>because it was in the starting lineups and one of

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<v Speaker 5>the things that they wanted to do was they wanted

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<v Speaker 5>and dude, there's no easy way to do this, but

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<v Speaker 5>one of the things they wanted to do which they

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<v Speaker 5>didn't have to do, which I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>cynical people could argue made things worse, was show his

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<v Speaker 5>connection to the community. Like I thought, the clip that

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<v Speaker 5>stands out to me more than ning is that little

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<v Speaker 5>girl grabbing his arm.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you know, so, yeah, if there's anything to it

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<v Speaker 6>that would make the them look worse to do that, right,

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<v Speaker 6>That's why you kind of just kind of got to

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<v Speaker 6>realize that the people who made the trade were not

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<v Speaker 6>involved on But I do think I assume they weren't

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<v Speaker 6>involved in the making of the video.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but I think it underscores how difficult this has

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<v Speaker 5>been on everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm telling you, the j Kid thing is fascinating

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<v Speaker 4>to me. Uh you know the Babe Ruth quote before

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<v Speaker 4>the game. Hey, it's some people are comparing the Babe Ruth.

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<v Speaker 4>That's pretty cool. I'm like, wait, what what is going

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<v Speaker 4>on there?

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<v Speaker 3>He saw the tim Callishaw call on my thing? What

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<v Speaker 3>on earth are you saying?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, it is it was It was a It's been

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<v Speaker 3>a weird time. It's been a weird time. But hey,

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<v Speaker 3>kudos to the Mavericks on doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 4>With all that all right, Coming up next, Skin has

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<v Speaker 4>a philosophical question for all of us that's coming up

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<v Speaker 4>in less than four minutes, so don't miss it.