1 00:00:16,679 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: And welcome to the Big Podcast on this Wednesday. Today's 2 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,359 the twenty fifth day of June, year of our lower 3 00:00:25,399 --> 00:00:28,239 twenty twenty five. My name is Tom Sullivan. So we 4 00:00:28,519 --> 00:00:32,600 as we gather around today, it's all about still looking 5 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,960 back at what happened on the dropping of the bombs 6 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,079 over the nuke sites in Iran and out of this 7 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:46,920 is becoming a battle primarily led by CNN New York 8 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:53,000 Times as well. There was a damage assessment, preliminary damage 9 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:59,399 assessment done by the DA, the Defense Intelligence Agency. Yes 10 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,679 they are of the Pentagon, but it is a preliminary 11 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:07,920 report with what little information that they had, and they 12 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,519 said that it only set back Iran maybe a couple 13 00:01:11,519 --> 00:01:16,599 of weeks. So CNN and New York Times are really 14 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,480 focused on that as if that is the gospel, and 15 00:01:20,519 --> 00:01:25,239 it's not the gospel. There's the idea we don't know 16 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:31,159 what the damage was. The experts are still doing their assessments. 17 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,040 They don't know the extent of the damage yet. I 18 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:36,640 don't think we will ever know everything. They're not going 19 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,959 to disclose every single thing about this. So THEDIA Defense 20 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,760 Intelligence Agency says only sets Iran back by a few months. 21 00:01:45,239 --> 00:01:49,519 Others are saying that it was obliterated. Others are saying 22 00:01:49,599 --> 00:01:51,879 it's set them back a couple of years. So take 23 00:01:51,879 --> 00:01:55,239 your pick on whichever one makes you feel the way 24 00:01:55,719 --> 00:01:58,359 this says something the way you feel. If you don't 25 00:01:58,439 --> 00:02:01,840 like Donald Trump, you're gonna what CNN is doing. And 26 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,000 New York Times, they're rooting for failure. They're rooting that 27 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,439 this did not work, and therefore they're rooting to see 28 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,199 Donald Trump. He's a bad leader, he's a bad president, 29 00:02:13,199 --> 00:02:15,800 he's a bad guy, he's bad whatever you want. If 30 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,159 you believe all of that, then you're going to believe 31 00:02:18,159 --> 00:02:26,520 this preliminary document that tries to portray this as a failure. 32 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:30,400 Now it may be it may in fact turn out 33 00:02:30,439 --> 00:02:34,560 to be where it failed, but it could also be 34 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:39,879 where it was wildly successful, and we just do not 35 00:02:40,199 --> 00:02:43,800 know what that is. But there's a big argument, and 36 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,800 it's becoming political. You don't like Trump, you believe the 37 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,199 thing failed. If you do like Trump, you think the 38 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,719 thing was obliterated. So I think they're just trying to 39 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,479 embarrass Donald Trump on this. I would like to I 40 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,080 would like to get to what really happened. I'm a 41 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,080 big enough boid to where I can take the truth. 42 00:03:02,599 --> 00:03:05,039 If it did work, great, If it did not work, 43 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,879 that's not great. But we need to know, and we're 44 00:03:08,879 --> 00:03:10,960 not going to know right away, and like I said, 45 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,039 I doubt we'll ever ever, ever really know. If you 46 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,919 focus on the military mission itself. The military mission was 47 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:25,599 a giant success. There's no question about that. These military 48 00:03:25,759 --> 00:03:28,879 planners that put all of this together, and the pilots 49 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,159 and the refuelers and the people in the submarines, it 50 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,400 was amazing what they coordinated in order to pull this 51 00:03:36,439 --> 00:03:41,199 thing off. So that's I mean to me, that's that's 52 00:03:41,199 --> 00:03:43,560 really where the focus should be on that more than 53 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:47,280 anything else. But we don't know the damage. We don't 54 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:52,639 know if we got everything. General Jack Keene always seems 55 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,319 to be the voice, well not the moderate voice, but 56 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,879 he's the guy who sits back and he knows that 57 00:04:02,199 --> 00:04:04,560 exactly how this works. So let's listen to what General 58 00:04:04,599 --> 00:04:05,479 Keane has to say. 59 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: Well, I think the evidence as it comes out will 60 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,159 be quite overwhelming. I've been in contact with the Israelis, 61 00:04:12,159 --> 00:04:14,199 who are really the people on the ground taking a 62 00:04:14,199 --> 00:04:19,079 look at this, and they believe based on their preliminary assessment, 63 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,720 because it's the people on the ground that are going 64 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,519 to make the most in depth assessment of what has 65 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,519 taken place here, and they haven't completed their assessment, and 66 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,279 they believe the program is set back at least two years, 67 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,959 if not longer, based on what's took place at those sites. 68 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:39,079 And obviously they hit all twelve sites before we hit 69 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:44,480 the major underground facilities here. And look at the DA report, 70 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:47,560 it was a preliminary report that had never reached the president. 71 00:04:47,639 --> 00:04:50,759 Yet it has to go through a process with all 72 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:55,079 the intelligence agencies coming together, making an assessment and then 73 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,439 bring that conclusion to the president that has been truncated 74 00:04:59,519 --> 00:05:03,040 by the LEA. So that process hasn't even been completed. 75 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,319 And certainly the people are reporting on in New York 76 00:05:07,399 --> 00:05:09,560 Times and seeing and are trying to take advantage of it. 77 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,439 I think this will simmer down at some point as 78 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,920 the evidence is overwhelming in terms of the success of 79 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,439 this operation. But let me say a couple of more 80 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,360 points on this. The ceasefire I would have liked to 81 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,600 have seen it have some conditions, public conditions as well 82 00:05:23,639 --> 00:05:27,000 as private condition, and that is is that you are 83 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,600 not going to rebuild your program, and if you do, 84 00:05:31,759 --> 00:05:33,680 Israel and the United States. 85 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 3: May have to stop it, and we will. 86 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: I think that's implied, and the President certainly made statements 87 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,680 to that effect here, so cleared up any doubt of 88 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,399 what we're doing for it. Let's face the reality here. 89 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:49,759 The regime that's in power in Iran has not changed. 90 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,879 They're going to want still want a nuclear weapon because 91 00:05:52,879 --> 00:05:55,959 they believe it protects them in terms of their survival. 92 00:05:56,639 --> 00:05:59,959 They will try to find a way to rebuild its 93 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,480 kind of who they are. They are steadfast in their 94 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:08,120 resistance to the United States and Israel, and the United 95 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,680 States certainly is committed to Israel here to make certainness 96 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,120 doesn't have I mean, Iran is back on its heels 97 00:06:15,639 --> 00:06:18,680 in a way that they have never been in forty 98 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:23,439 five years. They have lost their military capability, They've lost 99 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,519 their nuclear program, much of their ballistic missile program, much 100 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,279 of their leadership, and I think they've been politically weakened 101 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:34,920 inside of their country, which makes them more vulnerable to 102 00:06:35,759 --> 00:06:39,160 maybe through violence and a coop change in the regime 103 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,879 or eventually the people themselves having to say about changing 104 00:06:43,959 --> 00:06:46,199 the regime. But nonetheless, I don't want to focus too 105 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,120 much on regime change, but they're vulnerable to it. 106 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: In a way they haven't been. 107 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:50,439 Speaker 4: Then. 108 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: The second major point he made is deterrence the United 109 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:59,560 States in focusing on destroying the end state of Iran's 110 00:06:59,639 --> 00:07:05,199 nuclear program with such a major, remarkable operation that was 111 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:09,360 conducted here. Our adversaries are looking at this and they 112 00:07:09,399 --> 00:07:12,680 see the message, and that's the United States global leadership 113 00:07:12,759 --> 00:07:16,720 returning to the world stage and their willingness to confront adversaries. 114 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,279 The other thing that makes this so important and critical 115 00:07:22,759 --> 00:07:24,959 is look at the proxies. None of them came to 116 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,759 help Iran in a moment of desperation, particularly Hesbola, who 117 00:07:28,879 --> 00:07:31,720 was organized with billions of dollars one hundred and fifty 118 00:07:31,759 --> 00:07:36,079 thousand rockets and missiles to do principally one thing, defend 119 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,279 Iran against Israel. 120 00:07:37,519 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 3: They never fired a shot. 121 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,639 Speaker 2: Where is Russia and China and helping their their partner, 122 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:50,519 their partner in the Access Alliance, no help whatsoever except rhetoric. 123 00:07:51,319 --> 00:07:55,199 Aran is isolated here and we have achieved the measure 124 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,199 of deterrence. Both of those adversary countries need to know 125 00:07:59,639 --> 00:08:02,639 and they got the message from President Trump. We are 126 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,160 willing to confront your aggression and your ambitions when they're 127 00:08:06,199 --> 00:08:10,240 stepping on US national interests, and that is usually powerful 128 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:12,920 message that is coming out of what we're saying here. 129 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,759 Speaker 1: Another general that has his eyes on this retired for 130 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:22,800 Star General Joseph Botel. He was tentcom commander. This is 131 00:08:22,839 --> 00:08:25,680 his assessment of the assessment that's coming in. 132 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 5: Well, I said, I think his statement certainly is an 133 00:08:28,639 --> 00:08:33,320 important one, and it's certainly underscores the significance of our 134 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,879 strike here and the fact that Iran's nuclear weapons capability 135 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:40,159 is not the same today as it was just a 136 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,960 week ago or just a few days ago. So I 137 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,159 think that's an important assessment. Of course, he emphasized the 138 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:48,440 importance in getting people on the ground to look at this. 139 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,879 I think the thing that's most important for people to 140 00:08:50,919 --> 00:08:54,440 appreciate is this battle damage assessment process that has now 141 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,480 become kind of something common to talk about. It really 142 00:08:57,519 --> 00:09:00,200 is a process, and it goes through certain phases. That 143 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,120 starts with very simple initial assessments and then it gets 144 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,919 more into the detailed total system analysis. And when we 145 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,600 look at that, we do value looking in getting information 146 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:12,960 from people that have been on the ground, but we 147 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,000 also look at other things like the effects of the 148 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,799 Israeli strikes for example, them going after things like the 149 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,399 conversion plants or the manufacturing process. These are all really 150 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,919 important things that have to be worked in to the 151 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,159 total system damage assessment that really tells us what the 152 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,759 long term impact of this is. Well, it's going to 153 00:09:34,799 --> 00:09:36,840 be gayed two weeks, I think in terms of this 154 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,639 again as soon as as soon as people can get 155 00:09:39,799 --> 00:09:42,639 on the ground and we can again look at all 156 00:09:42,759 --> 00:09:46,200 the all the information that's being collected and the intelligence 157 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,080 community independent and I will have the opportunity to you know, 158 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,960 to make to make a to make a better assessment. 159 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,440 I think, Bob, well, what what what the impacts are? 160 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,039 But I think it's I think it's very clear there's 161 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,960 a significant amount of damage that has been gone to 162 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,799 the Iranian nuclear weapons. For I don't think there's any 163 00:10:05,039 --> 00:10:07,919 any ability to dispute that it's definitely different today than 164 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:08,320 it was. 165 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,279 Speaker 1: So definitely different than it was is The assessment by 166 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:16,360 General Botel Pete Hags at the Defense Secretary at the 167 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:23,639 NATO news conference earlier today basically chewed out CNN and 168 00:10:23,759 --> 00:10:27,279 The New York Times for jumping all over the DIA analysis. 169 00:10:27,799 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 6: There's a reason the President calls out fake news for 170 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:36,240 what it is. These pilots, these refuelers, these fighters, these 171 00:10:36,279 --> 00:10:38,919 air defenders. The skill and the courage it took to 172 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,600 go into enemy territory flying thirty six hours on behalf 173 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,720 of the American people in the world to take out 174 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,919 a nuclear program is beyond what anyone in this audience 175 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:51,759 can fathom. And then the instinct, the instinct of CNN, 176 00:10:51,919 --> 00:10:54,519 the instinct of the New York Times, is to try 177 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,279 to find a way to spin it for their own 178 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:02,200 political reasons, to try to hurt President Trump or our country. 179 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,159 They don't care what the troops think, they don't care 180 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,840 what the world thinks. They want to spin it to 181 00:11:06,879 --> 00:11:08,960 try to make him look bad based on a leak. 182 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,320 Of course, we've all seen plenty of leakers, and what 183 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,720 a leakers do? They have agendas and what do they do? 184 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,960 Do they share the whole information or just the part 185 00:11:17,039 --> 00:11:19,639 that they want to introduce? And when they introduce that 186 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:26,440 preliminary a preliminary report that's deemed to be a low assessment, 187 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,679 you know what a low assessment means? Low confidence in 188 00:11:29,759 --> 00:11:30,799 the data in that report. 189 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: And why is there low confidence? 190 00:11:32,519 --> 00:11:35,399 Speaker 6: Because all of the evidence of what was just bombed 191 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:40,000 by twelve thirty thousand pound bombs is buried under a mountain, 192 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,320 devastated and obliterated. So if you want to make an 193 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,080 assessment of what happened at four to doh, you better 194 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,639 get a big shovel and go really deep, because Iron's 195 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:54,120 nuclear program is obliterated and somebody somewhere is trying to 196 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,799 leak something to say, oh, with low confidence, we think 197 00:11:57,879 --> 00:12:02,120 maybe it's moderate. Those that the bombs precisely in the 198 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:06,360 right place know exactly what happened when that exploded, and 199 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:09,120 you know who else knows. Iran That's why they came 200 00:12:09,159 --> 00:12:12,320 to the table right away, because their nuclear capabilities have 201 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,519 been set back beyond what they thought were possible because 202 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,840 of the courage of a commander in chief who let 203 00:12:18,879 --> 00:12:21,159 our troops despite what the fake news wants to say. 204 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: Well, one guy who seems to be very credible is 205 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:29,360 David Albright. He is one of the inspectors from the IAEA. 206 00:12:30,159 --> 00:12:34,840 They're the International Atomic Energy Agency and they're the ones 207 00:12:34,879 --> 00:12:37,720 to go around the world to where nuclear programs are 208 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:43,120 and determine how much of a nuclear program exists. Here's 209 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,759 David Albright, it could satellite images. 210 00:12:46,759 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 4: Are we that good at figuring things out to where 211 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,120 this agency and there's a lot of agencies I think 212 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,200 working on assessing what happened. But for this particular report 213 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,399 to come out, what do you think they were facing 214 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,720 that on that the end that the structures are still 215 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:02,759 intact the building. 216 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 7: I think it's I think they were dependent on settled 217 00:13:06,159 --> 00:13:10,240 imagery and some communication intercepts and I don't think they 218 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,639 can tell them. And also from the reporting, I don't 219 00:13:12,639 --> 00:13:16,759 know if they're talking about FORDAU or a mountain complex 220 00:13:17,039 --> 00:13:19,840 at SFAH on nuclear site. I mean, it's very murky. 221 00:13:20,279 --> 00:13:23,559 What we found at ford OW is we have building 222 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,519 designs for FORDA from previous or other work we do, 223 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,720 and we can geolocate what parts of the site were 224 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,799 being targeted. So there's a a very important ventilation shaft 225 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,240 that comes up from the bottom from the floor of 226 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:41,720 the centrifuge plant all the way up to the surface. 227 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,080 The three holes from the mops are right in that 228 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,639 ventilation shaft area or a ventilation system, so it's kind 229 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:52,759 of a clean shot all the way to the bottom. 230 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,000 You're not going through a mountain per se. We also 231 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,320 found that the other three were targeted at the end 232 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:02,399 of a centrifeude of the centrifuge hall. Going through an 233 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,639 older structure that had been on the surface and that 234 00:14:04,759 --> 00:14:07,879 iron had covered up back and many years ago. So 235 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,559 we looked at we think that's a vulnerability in the mountain. 236 00:14:10,799 --> 00:14:13,919 And so with these if these mobs got through, what 237 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,840 they're doing is if they explode, they're creating shock waves 238 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,519 that run throughout the complex from two different directions, and 239 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,080 so we wouldn't expect them roofs to collapse. We're just 240 00:14:24,159 --> 00:14:30,200 to expect fire pressure shock waves that would destroy things 241 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,480 in their path. And so if it worked, it would 242 00:14:32,519 --> 00:14:36,200 be extremely destructive. Well, you have to separate it. 243 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: What is some of the. 244 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,159 Speaker 7: Media that leaking this, what are they intending to do? 245 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:40,919 Speaker 3: And they want when. 246 00:14:40,799 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 7: Bears trump the DIA and it was probably were just 247 00:14:43,759 --> 00:14:47,279 making an assessment, and we make them too, And what 248 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,799 are we thinking of. Yes, we have to be pessimistic 249 00:14:49,879 --> 00:14:53,759 sometimes because we have to protect our interests, us interesting 250 00:14:53,759 --> 00:14:56,639 and we want to know. We don't want to be blindsided. 251 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,159 So you want to do slightly pessimistic assessment, so you know, Okay, 252 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,360 here's the problem we need to solve. And so for 253 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:08,120 us identifying that there may be remaining stocks of sixty 254 00:15:08,159 --> 00:15:11,360 percent remaining centrifuge just means we have to deal with 255 00:15:11,399 --> 00:15:14,480 that problem. We can, and it's it's the residual part 256 00:15:14,519 --> 00:15:17,879 of the centrifuge programs a massive damage to it, and 257 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,000 we have to deal with it. And we think the 258 00:15:20,039 --> 00:15:22,919 best way is through diplomacy, and I would say through 259 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,840 Mosad continuing to act in Iran, luring people or encouraging 260 00:15:27,879 --> 00:15:31,000 people inside the program to come forward to in a 261 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:37,639 sense realize your holding career has been shattered, and you 262 00:15:37,759 --> 00:15:40,480 can provide some information about what's going on, and we 263 00:15:40,559 --> 00:15:45,600 can help you find a new life if it's really important. Yeah, no, 264 00:15:45,919 --> 00:15:49,279 and it's it is. It is harmful and and and 265 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,080 it HiT's free to debate within the within the intelligence 266 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:57,960 agencies and confuse the public, I mean, the who can 267 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:01,039 make sense out of it right now? And yet it's 268 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,919 something we need to make sense out of and find 269 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,879 ways to move forward. So you know, the only bright 270 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,480 thing I can see and it is that you know, 271 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,320 I worry that President Trump will move on and this 272 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,759 kind of press reporting as a reminder to him and 273 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,759 that this problem isn't completely solid. 274 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:20,639 Speaker 3: But he's. 275 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 7: He and particularly Israel have accomplished a tremendous amount to 276 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:29,039 end Iran's enrichment program, and now we need to do 277 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,039 the rest. So they're kind of the residing parts and 278 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,919 do the rest. If you don't, those residual parts will 279 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,360 grow and become a threat to the United States. 280 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,039 Speaker 1: So what happens next, Well, the United States in Iran 281 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,399 announcement this afternoon that they will be meeting next week. 282 00:16:46,559 --> 00:16:50,360 I presume this is going to try to start the 283 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,080 diplomatic effort to try to get the rest of whatever 284 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:59,279 wasn't bombed out last Saturday night. Meantime, Josh Kraushauer talking 285 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:04,119 about the President, spent the day today in the NATO 286 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,680 meeting in the Hague. 287 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:07,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. 288 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,039 Speaker 8: Look, this is a big political moment on the world 289 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,680 stage for President Trump, and you can see his confidence 290 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:18,119 in his conversations with these world leaders. Look, you know, 291 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,039 he was very adamant about maintaining the ceasefire it's held 292 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,960 so far. He wants to basically claim that his ability 293 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,519 to use force got peace. And that's the argument that 294 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:32,240 you're actually hearing some of the European leaders, Mark Ruti, 295 00:17:32,319 --> 00:17:35,319 the head of NATO, the German Chancellor are crediting Trump 296 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,839 for his willingness to use force in order to get 297 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,400 to peace or at least in order to get to 298 00:17:40,759 --> 00:17:43,640 a diplomatic path. Now, there's a lot of questions along 299 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,839 the way, coming forward to the intelligence reports you mentioned, 300 00:17:47,279 --> 00:17:49,039 the nature of what the RAND is going to do, 301 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,519 whether they're coming to the bargaining table, whether they want 302 00:17:51,559 --> 00:17:55,119 to actually get rid and continue to you know, whether 303 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,319 they want to abandon their nuclear program or whether they're 304 00:17:57,319 --> 00:17:58,960 going to build it up again. Those are still important 305 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:01,880 questions that are elevant, but Trump certainly is coming to 306 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,279 the Netherlands at this very important moment. The other big 307 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,880 news is the five percent commitment from the European leaders. 308 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,119 It's been a theme of Donald Trump's ever since he 309 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,359 ran for president back in twenty sixteen, getting European countries 310 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,680 to spend more for their national defense, and from the 311 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,640 reaction from many of the top European leaders, that seems 312 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,000 to be getting closer to that goal. 313 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,079 Speaker 1: And Josh Oham's former McConnell chief of staff talking about 314 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,519 the world leaders at the NATO somewhat and what their 315 00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:31,440 opinion is about the efforts by the US and Israel. 316 00:18:32,319 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, it continues to be totally astounding how 317 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,160 many people in the intelligence left of this country and 318 00:18:38,279 --> 00:18:41,519 somewhere in the deep state of our government is basically 319 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,880 rooting for America's failure in many ways. But I think 320 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,640 the larger piece, and what Josh was talking about here, 321 00:18:47,759 --> 00:18:49,920 is you're watching an American president, over a course of 322 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:54,079 a few days, restore America's position as a leader in 323 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,480 the free world. And you're seeing it now play out 324 00:18:56,559 --> 00:18:58,559 this NATO summit. I mean, it was during his first 325 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,640 term where everybody thought that Donald Trump was being provocative 326 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:05,279 and offensive by suggesting the European country's ante up for 327 00:19:05,319 --> 00:19:07,680 their mutual defense. And now here we are going to 328 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,000 two percent and then now five percent of their. 329 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 8: GDP to do just that. 330 00:19:12,039 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: He is leading the world at this point. 331 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 9: He saved NATO in many ways, and he's also providing 332 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,559 leadership in the Middle East that's gravely necessary. 333 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:24,519 Speaker 1: Former Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln weighed in by saying, 334 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,759 writing to The New York Times, the strike on three 335 00:19:27,839 --> 00:19:31,240 of Iran's nuclear facilities by the United States was unwise 336 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,279 and unnecessary. Now that it's done, I very much hope 337 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:40,640 that it succeeded. Josh Krashauer with the reaction to Anthony Blincoln. 338 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 8: Well, the success of the strikes against Iran's nuclear program 339 00:19:44,759 --> 00:19:46,559 and the fact that the day after where we're on 340 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,319 the we've got to cease fire, is making the democratic 341 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,359 argument very complicated. If you read that blinkin op at 342 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,839 he's trying to have it both ways, saying, yeah, you know, 343 00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:57,279 I'm hoping the strikes work and maybe there's going to 344 00:19:57,279 --> 00:19:59,960 be some opportunity to bring a ranto the negotiating table 345 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:02,000 as a result. But he also wants to kind of 346 00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:05,079 claim credit for the Democratic record which led to Iran 347 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,640 kind of building the nuclear material and not not restraining 348 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,319 them as a lot of folks had hoped. So there's 349 00:20:10,319 --> 00:20:13,720 a lot of trying to recreate the record in the 350 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:15,720 case of Blincoln. And look, Democrats are in a little 351 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,400 bit of an awkward position because they rushed to oppose 352 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:22,079 Trump's strikes against Iran, trying to think they could politically capitalize, 353 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,640 and because of their success and the limited nature of them, 354 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,680 the fact that we're now getting this, we now have 355 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:30,680 the cease fire, they're not living up to their initial rhetoric, 356 00:20:30,759 --> 00:20:32,759 and they're trying to focus more on this War Powers 357 00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:36,160 resolution that's before Congress and less so about actually opposing 358 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:40,160 what happened in the nuclear in the strikes against around 359 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,079 the nuclear program program themselves. So Democrats are in a 360 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,359 little bit an awkward position. They're divided between folks who 361 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,839 are worried about Iran's nuclear program and are glad with 362 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:48,720 what Trump did. 363 00:20:49,559 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 3: And those who are much more left wing on foreign policy. 364 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: Then there's a question about AOC and a few others 365 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,359 suggest or not suggesting they want to start them eachment 366 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,400 process against Donald Trump. Over all of this, a lot 367 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,680 of Democrats are saying, please don't do that. The fact 368 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:10,440 they're voting against AOC, they do not go there. And 369 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,079 again we've talked about this during impeachment one and impeachment two. 370 00:21:14,599 --> 00:21:18,880 Unless you have sixty seven senators that are in the 371 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,680 same camp with you, you're basically wasting your time. You're 372 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,400 going to have a show trial with nothing to show 373 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:28,039 for it, and who comes out stronger at the end, 374 00:21:28,599 --> 00:21:32,640 President Trump? Because one more time, so the Democrats are 375 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,960 even telling AOC to knock it off. Here's a Josh 376 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Holmes with his reaction. 377 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 9: Now that's absolutely a rudderless ship. And people who say 378 00:21:43,079 --> 00:21:45,920 that they are pro Israel and they're for the defense 379 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,960 of Israel, of course, have talked about this forever. Again, 380 00:21:48,039 --> 00:21:50,480 such a kick out of that Anthony Blinkett ibed, I 381 00:21:50,559 --> 00:21:53,319 mean contrast the policy of the Biden administration where he's 382 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:58,039 delivering peers outside of Gaza to make sure that Hamas 383 00:21:58,079 --> 00:22:01,119 has three squares a day without providing any meaningful defense 384 00:22:01,519 --> 00:22:04,319 of Israel whatsoever, and all of a sudden he thinks 385 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,880 that this was a bad idea. I would suggest that 386 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,039 if Anthony Blincoln thinks that you made a bad foreign 387 00:22:10,079 --> 00:22:12,400 policy decision, it's probably right on the money. 388 00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:15,559 Speaker 3: And at least that's what it looks like from my perspective. 389 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,759 Speaker 1: Speaking of AOC, she has been a giant endorser of 390 00:22:22,079 --> 00:22:25,799 the man who won the New York City Democrat primary 391 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:31,240 election yesterday. His name is Zoron Ma'am Danny, and he 392 00:22:31,599 --> 00:22:35,319 is an avowed socialist. He's going to be run well, 393 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,319 we don't know if Cuomo's going to run on a 394 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,359 separate line. Cuomo came in second, Ma'am Danny came in 395 00:22:42,839 --> 00:22:46,480 clearly first. So the way New York City politics works 396 00:22:46,599 --> 00:22:49,160 is that you can have different lines for different parties, 397 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,480 and there's a whole bunch of different lines. So it 398 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,960 may be where the Ma'am Danny runs against Eric Adams, 399 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,359 the current mayor who is going to have to run 400 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,519 on some other ticket, and also maybe the Mario excuse me, 401 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:09,079 Andrew Andrew Cuomo, who can find another line to have 402 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,480 his name on the ballot. So there's going to be 403 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,680 a lot of jockeying before the general election in November. 404 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,240 But what a shocker. And Eric Adams, this is his reaction. 405 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:24,160 He calls him a snake oil salesman. And then here 406 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,440 is Ma'm Danny with his working the crowd up into 407 00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:30,000 a frenzy. 408 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:35,279 Speaker 3: He's this snake oils sellsman. He was say and do 409 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,680 anything to get elected. 410 00:23:38,319 --> 00:23:45,799 Speaker 10: Where rent stabilized, apartments are actually stabilized, where buses are 411 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:52,279 fast and free, where childcare doesn't toss more than cuney. 412 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,319 It's where the mayor will use their power to reject 413 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:07,039 Donald Trump's fashes two stuff mass ice agents from deporting 414 00:24:07,079 --> 00:24:07,759 our neighbor. 415 00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: So Mandani wants to run up the city a totally 416 00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:16,960 different way. He is a great believer in raising the 417 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,000 minimum wage to thirty dollars an hour. He wants to 418 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,039 offer free buses for everybody. He wants the city to 419 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,200 run the grocery stores in New York City. He's four 420 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,880 open borders and the way he's going to pay for 421 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,720 all of this is of course packs the rich and 422 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,440 tax business, and so the business leaders in New York 423 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,680 are downright panicking, going, oh my gosh, this guy is 424 00:24:41,759 --> 00:24:45,160 really catching on and if that happens, what will happen 425 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:54,359 to the financial capital of the world. He is thirty 426 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,240 three years old and has been a state legislator for 427 00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:02,839 a couple of you. What does this say, though, about 428 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,640 other big cities in this country. They're all blue, they're 429 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,839 all run by Democrats, and you can't help but wonder 430 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,519 if maybe the socialist message is getting through to a 431 00:25:14,599 --> 00:25:17,119 lot of people that live in big cities that are 432 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,559 low income and they're struggling, and they're looking for a leader. 433 00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:23,400 The Democrats are looking for a leader. This isn't the 434 00:25:23,519 --> 00:25:27,200 Democrats winning. This is the far far, far far far 435 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:33,720 left winning, like far than even AOC. So is this 436 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,440 the way the Democrats are going to go? It really 437 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:39,680 makes you wonder what other big cities are going to do, 438 00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:43,519 because yesterday the Chicago Tribune gave a warning to the 439 00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:46,960 people of New York saying, don't do learn from the 440 00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:50,759 mistakes we made in Chicago by electing Brandon Johnson, who 441 00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:55,480 is also a socialist, and the Chicago Tribune says he's 442 00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:58,799 ruining Chicago. Don't make the same mistake. But what did 443 00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:02,319 the people do? They voted for this thirty three year 444 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:06,759 old socialist who has big dreams of a socialist empire 445 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,920 within the city of New York. And you know that 446 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,559 businesses not only can pick up and move, they don't 447 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,640 have to move far. They can just go across the 448 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,039 river to New Jersey, or they can go up about 449 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,400 ten miles up to another county, Westchester County, get out 450 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,000 of the City of New York. Or they can move 451 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:29,240 to Texas like a lot of them have. Harry Enton, 452 00:26:29,519 --> 00:26:35,079 the strategist over at CNN, and this analysis of the 453 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,000 mayor oral race and its impact on Democrats across the nation. 454 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,559 Listen to what he had to say. 455 00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:45,319 Speaker 11: Let me tell you this was a political earthquake that 456 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,480 should have the Democratic establishment running scared. What are we 457 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,640 talking about here, Well, New York City primary upsets like Mondani's, 458 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,759 this is truly one for the record books. They're really 459 00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:57,599 only two that I could think of that or anything 460 00:26:57,799 --> 00:26:59,880 like this, And that's back in eighty nine for Mayor 461 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,039 David Dickins one over third three term Mayor Ed Koch 462 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,839 was running for a fourth term. The voter said, uhh, 463 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,119 there was big turnout then, just like there was big 464 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,759 turnout last night, and of course more recently, if you 465 00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:13,759 want to take a look at a national picture, think 466 00:27:13,839 --> 00:27:17,160 back to twenty eighteen New York's fourteenth Democratic primary going 467 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,960 for Congress when AOC House DEM Caucus Chair Joe Crowley. 468 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,559 This to me is very much like that, energizing young voters, 469 00:27:24,839 --> 00:27:28,319 energizing voters on the left, and providing what truly was 470 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,079 a historic night last night in democratic circles. 471 00:27:32,599 --> 00:27:34,759 Speaker 6: More a New York City thing, or is this more 472 00:27:34,799 --> 00:27:37,319 of a sign of a larger national trend when it 473 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:38,759 comes to the Democratic gas Yeah, just. 474 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 11: Like AOC's victory in twenty eighteen. This did happen locally, 475 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,039 but I think you can take it up nationally. What 476 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,599 are we talking about here, Well, you know, you think 477 00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:49,799 about democratic establishment, you think about Democratic party leaders, pretty 478 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:50,279 much all of. 479 00:27:50,279 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 3: Them were behind Andrew Cuomo. 480 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 11: But the bottom line is the Democratic base is fed up, 481 00:27:55,759 --> 00:27:58,279 done with the Democratic establishment. This is true in New York, 482 00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:01,200 it's two nationally Democrats who say their party leaders should 483 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:01,759 be replaced. 484 00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 3: Look at this, This is a recent pull from rouydership. 485 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,799 Speaker 11: So sixty two percent of Democrats nationally say their party 486 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,279 leaders should be replaced. Party leaders like Andrew Cuomo, party 487 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,119 leaders like Jim Kleiber and who of course endorsed Andrew Cuomo. 488 00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:17,880 You think about all the Democrats that were behind Andrew 489 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,839 Cuomo in the establishment. The Democratic base is fed up 490 00:28:20,839 --> 00:28:23,480 with them. And the bottom line is, nationally, the vast 491 00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:26,440 majority of Democrats think that their party leaders should be replaced. 492 00:28:26,559 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 3: But it's more than this. 493 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,759 Speaker 11: Right, of course, Mandani ran a left, pretty far left campaign, 494 00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:34,359 right compared to what we normally see in democratic circles. 495 00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:36,640 But the bottom line is, you talk to me. Twenty 496 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,359 thirty years ago, there was no way I thought a 497 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,519 democratic socialist could win a nomination from mayor in New 498 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,680 York or nationally. But look Democrats who identify as liberal 499 00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:47,319 nationally in nineteen ninety four, twenty five percent, You go 500 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,480 to two thousand and four to thirty three percent, twenty 501 00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:52,680 fourteen to forty three percent. Now the majority of Democrats 502 00:28:52,799 --> 00:28:56,880 nationally identify as liberal. If there are a democratic establishment. 503 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,640 Folks who think this is just going to be contained 504 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,119 in New York, I say this is a warning sign 505 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,480 to you it very much may not be. 506 00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: Arl Lewis, who was a local New York political guru, 507 00:29:08,519 --> 00:29:12,759 laid out the differences between Andrew Cuomo and this new 508 00:29:13,079 --> 00:29:15,079 socialist that's leading in the mayor's race. 509 00:29:15,759 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 12: Well, look, this was two candidates who just could not 510 00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:21,079 be more different. If Cuomo had been elected, he would 511 00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:23,400 have been the oldest mayor in the history of New 512 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,799 York City. By contrast, we haven't had a mayor this young. 513 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,920 If he should succeed, Mam Donnie would be the youngest 514 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,440 mayor in one hundred years. You have somebody who had 515 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,680 a ton of experience. Cuomo had won seven statewide campaigns, 516 00:29:37,119 --> 00:29:40,720 three for his father, four for himself. Mam Donnie, by contrast, 517 00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:43,200 had only been in the Assembly, the lower chamber of 518 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,799 the State Assembly of the state legislature, for. 519 00:29:46,039 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 3: Two terms about four years. 520 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 12: So you had new and fresh and somebody who was 521 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,960 just bursting with energy as opposed to somebody who really 522 00:29:55,119 --> 00:29:58,400 literally physically represented the Democratic establishment. 523 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 1: And Chuck Rosa, who is a Democrat campaign guy in 524 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,960 New York. He pointed out not only the fact that 525 00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:13,279 people really wanted change, but also the impact of social 526 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,720 media on Mendami's campaign. 527 00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:18,519 Speaker 13: There's a lot of lessons to be learned from this election, 528 00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:21,200 not just that the establishment may be on their way out, 529 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,640 but lots of different things. Some other numbers that wasn't 530 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,279 talked about yet was the money normally in politics, And 531 00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:28,599 y'all have covered this. Whoever spends the most money normally 532 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,000 wins well. Cuomo and his supers pack spent over thirty 533 00:30:32,079 --> 00:30:36,759 six million dollars in Mamdami only spent nine million. That's 534 00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,079 a huge difference. So the way that the campaigns were 535 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,880 run are really different. Will this New York race fit 536 00:30:42,039 --> 00:30:44,640 in every race around America? No, But the energy and 537 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,440 the change and the need for change. I think that's 538 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,359 why people were really drawn to him. There's some things 539 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,400 that happened underneath that Mamdami won those preseincts. So you 540 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,400 could have had voters last night who had voted for 541 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,559 Donald Trump and voted for him because this is a 542 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,079 populous moment more so than a left or right thing. 543 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:02,680 Folks are just sick tired of the establishment. They should 544 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,680 talk about things that are popular and avoid things that 545 00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:07,279 are controversial. That seems very elementary, but he won last 546 00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:10,079 night saying rent is too high and the buses should 547 00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:10,440 be free. 548 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:10,839 Speaker 3: That's something. 549 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 13: If we've got enough money to give all these millionaire's 550 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,039 tax break, we should be able to afford those things. 551 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,440 And when you're in places that are purple, talk about 552 00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:20,119 things that are grounded around family and work. Mondnni also 553 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,440 did something that was very different, which was his big 554 00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:25,799 presence on social media, three million views of a single 555 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,440 ad while other folks were buying lots of evening news, 556 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,799 which still works for old folks. Because the one thing 557 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,240 that's not talked about the most in this particular race 558 00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:35,440 is they open up the primary where you could vote 559 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,599 early more days. Back in the day when we were 560 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,720 all younger, you only had one day to vote in 561 00:31:39,759 --> 00:31:41,759 New York City. Now you can vote over a week 562 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:43,680 or two, which added a lot more people to the 563 00:31:43,759 --> 00:31:46,119 roles being able to vote. This is how Donald Trump, 564 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,920 when nobody likes to talk about it. I'm one of 565 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,279 the few Democrats to give them credit. There's a lot 566 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,160 of new voters that showed up last night and they 567 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,240 saw him on their social media. Remember where I started. 568 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,559 Thirty six million dollars spent on TV. Mondannie only spent 569 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,000 nine million. Most of that was on TV because he 570 00:32:01,119 --> 00:32:03,960 was paying to put and boost his ads on Facebook 571 00:32:04,039 --> 00:32:06,279 and on Twitter and on other places where folks, young 572 00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:08,799 folks are consuming and guess who are the biggest participants, 573 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,599 who had the biggest growth margins were young people. Now 574 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,960 the ceilings low because they normally don't vote. They showed 575 00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:16,000 up in masks last night, and that was the biggest difference. 576 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: So these political actors point out all the differences between 577 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,440 Cuomo and Mandami, But what I heard from both of 578 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,039 them was what we've been talking about on this program 579 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,240 for a long time, and that is started with Barack 580 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:32,680 Obama open change. And he said at the end of 581 00:32:32,759 --> 00:32:36,279 his eight years as president that he said that they 582 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,799 were mad and that's why they voted for change. And 583 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,519 he says at the end of the eight years, they're 584 00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:45,240 still mad, and so who do they vote for. They 585 00:32:45,359 --> 00:32:50,000 voted for Donald Trump, and they obviously wanted change after 586 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,160 the first four years of Trump, so they voted for 587 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,799 Biden and they're still mad. They voted for Trump again. 588 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,920 And I think that's what happened in New York, and 589 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,359 I think that's what's going to happen around the country, 590 00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:05,640 is that people are not happy with the establishment, the 591 00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:09,799 elite politicians, and as a result, they're willing to vote 592 00:33:09,839 --> 00:33:13,559 for something radically different. I think that's what happened in 593 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,359 the mayor's race. And speaking of New York, the markets 594 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,400 today not a lot, but we'll we'll take it. The 595 00:33:24,519 --> 00:33:28,000 Dow finished one hundred and six points lower, back below 596 00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:31,359 forty three, down to forty two nine eighty two. The 597 00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:36,279 SMP unchanged, the Nasdaq went up sixty one points, but 598 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,640 a big boost for the Nasdaq was the fact that 599 00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:46,200 Navidia has completed their complete recovery. They're back to a 600 00:33:46,319 --> 00:33:50,559 new record closing high for Navidia. That helped the Nasdaq 601 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,519 up sixty one points. The nineteen thousand and nine seventy 602 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,559 three go up fourteen dollars to thirty three forty eight, 603 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,160 and oil up just about it a dollar to sixty 604 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,200 five dollars and some change. So that's it for today. 605 00:34:04,519 --> 00:34:06,839 Thank you again for coming by, and we'll hope to 606 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,000 see you again tomorrow.