Speaker 1: It is hump day. Welcome to the show. December. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry September eleventh, customer times. Merry Christmas, everybody. I was
Speaker 1: just hoping the election was over already. That's what my
Speaker 1: brain is, all right. So we'll get to the debate
Speaker 1: in a second here, but it is obviously nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: It is our generation's pearl harbor. And I do want
Speaker 1: to commend our newsroom for playing a lot of the
Speaker 1: sound from the other events that happened that day, not
Speaker 1: just the towers. Like we focus on the towers a lot,
Speaker 1: and we forget about that flight in Pennsylvania where those
Speaker 1: guys took over and said, let's roll. You know, forget
Speaker 1: about that plane that barely got over that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a miracle that hit the Pentagon, but it did,
Speaker 1: and people died in that thing. And we sometimes forget.
Speaker 1: We don't forget, but we don't talk about those events enough.
Speaker 2: And how soon some of us forget about our first responders.
Speaker 2: After that day, people were so uplifting and glorified, as
Speaker 2: they should a lot of our first responders.
Speaker 3: Now it's not the case, and.
Speaker 4: We continue to lose them to cancer after being exposed
Speaker 4: to the toxins at ground zero. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I still remember that day.
Speaker 2: I think all of us in this room probably remember
Speaker 2: exactly where they were. We were all at work, and
Speaker 2: I remember I heard that a plane hit the World
Speaker 2: Traits are I thought it was Sessna and.
Speaker 1: Then yeah, me too. I was playing golf with Rocky Night.
Speaker 4: I was watching it live and we saw smoking. What
Speaker 4: is going on? And then the second plane hit in
Speaker 4: real time? I say, what what is this? This is fake?
Speaker 4: This is what is this.
Speaker 3: I remember when they.
Speaker 2: Hit the Pentagon, I thought, well, we live off close
Speaker 2: to Fort Knox.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the secondary target, Fort Knox.
Speaker 2: And then I just started thinking, if they hit the Pentagon,
Speaker 2: all bets are off.
Speaker 3: Nobody's safe. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We were playing golf and I had my Nokia phone.
Speaker 1: Remember the Nokia phone foot phones? Yeah, so they know,
Speaker 1: just the regular Nokia, those tiny little ones. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: So I had that one and it kept rattling in
Speaker 1: the golf cart. In our rule if you're going to
Speaker 1: play golf was you're not answering your cell phone. So
Speaker 1: it kept rattling, and especially because it was my wife,
Speaker 1: and I was like, it's Jackie and she's gonna want
Speaker 1: to know what speaking of rattling the color socks I'm
Speaker 1: wearing or whatever, and I'm going to like, it's blue,
Speaker 1: I'm playing golf. So it rattled three four times in
Speaker 1: a row, and that sent a signal of, oh, you
Speaker 1: better answer this, dumbass. So I answered it. We played
Speaker 1: one more hole and then I said, maybe we should
Speaker 1: go up. This sounds like we should go up to
Speaker 1: the clubhouse and watch this thing. And we did. We
Speaker 1: stood there in Hidden Creek golf course, a clubhouse. There
Speaker 1: was no one there except the guy that runs this place,
Speaker 1: Rocky Night and Tony Venetti, and were standing there looking
Speaker 1: at the screen for about forty five minutes, and we
Speaker 1: looked at each other and go, we should probably go.
Speaker 4: Did you guys visit the Air Force Museum or I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: memorial on the Outer Flight?
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, it was. It wasn't It wasn't built. When
Speaker 2: Tony was there.
Speaker 4: That it's on a hill overlooking the Pentagon and they say,
Speaker 4: look to the road and there's a hotel there, and
Speaker 4: they said, like some of the dishes and things were
Speaker 4: knocked off the hotel by the wheels of the plane. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that hit the Pentagon.
Speaker 1: He had to of there's like a six feet span
Speaker 1: basically of being able to dive that quickly and hit
Speaker 1: the Pentagon and he missed that roof by just that.
Speaker 1: You're right, the antennas.
Speaker 3: Yes, all of the events.
Speaker 2: Were so horrific, But I think what was the most
Speaker 2: gut wrenching. I mean I wanted to to vomit and
Speaker 2: still do when I picture this is when that first
Speaker 2: tower collapsed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought, my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah they I think the one thing that I remember
Speaker 1: from that night was the two guys on the boat
Speaker 1: in the river, in the Hudson River, the snipers, and
Speaker 1: then the visual of the F eighteen's going flying over
Speaker 1: the city and you're like, we're at war, like this
Speaker 1: is now because they don't know if more are coming. Right,
Speaker 1: My in laws are in Vegas. They have to rent
Speaker 1: a car with two couples. They don't know to get
Speaker 1: back to the They have to they're driving because remember
Speaker 1: no one flew for two weeks.
Speaker 2: And if you remember this, all television programming went straight
Speaker 2: to news for I want to say about a week. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so it was was twenty four on every station. It's
Speaker 2: just I still well equally as pissed off as I
Speaker 2: was that day.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, that that generation is younger than us that watched that.
Speaker 1: So there's a comedian that used to say, how could
Speaker 1: he's older than us? And he said, how do you think?
Speaker 1: We were hooked on television when we were kids? We
Speaker 1: turned it on and and and the the guy that
Speaker 1: killed Kennedy Kennedy, John, You're right, I'm sorry, John, Yeah,
Speaker 1: John F Kennedy. Jack Ruby, Jack Ruby killed Lee Harvel
Speaker 1: on live television. He goes, we're watching that and a
Speaker 1: guy comes out with a gun and shoots him on
Speaker 1: live television. He goes, we were hooked on television. And
Speaker 1: then that nine to eleven for our generation a little
Speaker 1: bit younger than us, that was theirs. In a a
Speaker 1: lot of guys signed up and went over there because.
Speaker 4: They they including Pat Telmot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, that's right, all right, So that's our
Speaker 1: nine to eleven. Last night was the debate, and I
Speaker 1: purposely did not watch any of the post coverage. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I just wanted to know what I saw.
Speaker 1: What I saw, which was it was entertaining. I was
Speaker 1: fighting to stay awake. I was looked at Jackie. I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know if I can stay up
Speaker 1: and once it started, though once it started, it was
Speaker 1: a circus, and it was an embarrassing circus. It was
Speaker 1: actually entertaining, though back and forth was fun. That's what
Speaker 1: I got from it. It was fun. She did a
Speaker 1: lot better than anybody thought she was going to be
Speaker 1: able to do. And Donald Trump is entertaining. He does
Speaker 1: what he does, but it was he by far her
Speaker 1: best performance, and the two box went Donald Trump way.
Speaker 1: During the Biden debate, it went her way last night.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Did you want to anybody?
Speaker 2: I said, I wasn't gonna watch it, and I watched
Speaker 2: the first probably thirty five minutes. I thought, well, three
Speaker 2: on ones not real fun, so I turned it off.
Speaker 4: I watched the whole thing. She won the debate, There's
Speaker 4: no question about it. She didn't offer much in the
Speaker 4: way of policy, but she appeared to be the more calm,
Speaker 4: cool and collected person, which is what she needed to do.
Speaker 4: She needed to not cackle. She didn't cackle, and he
Speaker 4: got off his game. They were brilliant. They so on
Speaker 4: the immigration issue. He was asked about it and instead
Speaker 4: of saying, this is how we worked with Mexico to
Speaker 4: close the border, and this is what we did, this
Speaker 4: is what they didn't do. That's where he was going.
Speaker 4: But she'd throw in little thing things before it was
Speaker 4: his time to talk. She said, people leave his rallies
Speaker 4: early because they're bored. And then instead of getting to immigration,
Speaker 4: he had to go off on that yeah, and not
Speaker 4: get back to immigration. And she did that constantly with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he took the bait. Yes, he fell in the
Speaker 1: trap door she set up. I didn't know that she
Speaker 1: was capable of doing that until last night. And then
Speaker 1: you know what reminded me of was the Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1: Want Colonel Jesseph to admit he did the code read right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So he was like, he wants to do that. So
Speaker 1: when she said, I encourage you to go to a
Speaker 1: Donald Trump rally and see how people are leaving because
Speaker 1: they were exhausted in board, and you knew that was
Speaker 1: pushing his buttons and he was there. But the line
Speaker 1: that he even laughed at, like if in the two
Speaker 1: box he's he laughed at and that's a good line.
Speaker 1: When she said you were fired by eighty one million people, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're still you're still having trouble processing that and
Speaker 1: he kind of cackled at it when Okay, that was
Speaker 1: a good line, but they did they did not stay
Speaker 1: on the process of what the debates were supposed to do,
Speaker 1: which was he goes, she goes, he goes, she goes,
Speaker 1: and then to the next topic. There were a lot
Speaker 1: of times that they stayed on that same topic, which
Speaker 1: broke the rules.
Speaker 4: And I get it.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of people that thought that the
Speaker 1: ABC reporters were in on it, but.
Speaker 4: Facts checking one candidate out the other, Yeah, that kind
Speaker 4: of thing.
Speaker 1: But I agree regardless of what you think happened. She
Speaker 1: won likes Donald won the first one. She won last night,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. And the two box helped
Speaker 1: her because she kind of made those face. Even if
Speaker 1: you're a Trump fan sometimes when he's talking, you do
Speaker 1: that face like he took the bait on the cats.
Speaker 4: He took the bait on the cat got she.
Speaker 1: Got him to yell they're eating dogs, and it just
Speaker 1: out of context, it just sounds awful, So you just
Speaker 1: she she got him to yell, they're eating dogs. And
Speaker 1: when she put her hand on her chin to go
Speaker 1: are you serious? That was that was that was in
Speaker 1: her favor.
Speaker 4: Now people in those towns are showing up at council
Speaker 4: meetings and talking about these things. They're either liars or
Speaker 4: it's happening.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I argue that if proof wasn't not about Colorado being
Speaker 2: overtaken in certain apartments.
Speaker 3: That they would have done that as well. But is
Speaker 3: out there, but we'll see.
Speaker 4: Yeah, is it gonna matter? Not really my point. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she needed that night. To me, the most consequential debate
Speaker 4: of our lifetime was George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton,
Speaker 4: where the moment of reading my lips no new taxes
Speaker 4: changed the election. But back then you had a little
Speaker 4: bit left to center versus a little bit right of center.
Speaker 4: I know people could go either way, and they truly
Speaker 4: were undecided. These two candidates are polar opposite. If you
Speaker 4: lived through the Trump economy and then the Biden economy,
Speaker 4: and last night's debate made up your mind, I'm sorry
Speaker 4: for you.
Speaker 1: But I disagree with the most significant. The last debate
Speaker 1: was the most significant. So bad he got rid of
Speaker 1: a sitting president, That's how bad it was. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. Look you bring those up, and I wish
Speaker 1: those days would come back, because I would not watch
Speaker 1: these debates because they were boring. Back then, they were
Speaker 1: really boring, and you really had to be into policy
Speaker 1: and politics to watch those things. They didn't disagree a
Speaker 1: heck of a lot, actually, And now this is I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's like a ballgame. And it was entertaining to
Speaker 1: the end. That's what I thought. I stayed up. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to watch, but half of it. I end
Speaker 1: up watching.
Speaker 4: A whole other debate that mattered was the first Biden
Speaker 4: Trump debate last time, where he him and jumped on
Speaker 4: him and that was awful.
Speaker 1: Well, he started to do uh when he sat a
Speaker 1: bit of that, and he also never answered her. He
Speaker 1: always he always pointed at the the moderators and talked
Speaker 1: to the moderators and never looked at her, which I
Speaker 1: didn't think was good. And he was sweating a little bit,
Speaker 1: but it was I thought it was entertaining. It was fun.
Speaker 1: Now again, they had interviewed folks that were that voted
Speaker 1: for Trump in the first time, voted for Biden the
Speaker 1: second one, but were undecided, and they interviewed them. I'd
Speaker 1: like to see because I promised myself, I said, I'm
Speaker 1: not watching any post coverage because I didn't want that
Speaker 1: to to uh, you know, skew what I believe what
Speaker 1: happened last night. Uh so I want to go back
Speaker 1: and watch that stuff and see if it changed anybody's mind.
Speaker 4: I can't imagine anybody is truly down the middle on
Speaker 4: these two. That's hard to believe.
Speaker 3: I just can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's I think there is something to the
Speaker 1: people are like, you got to give me a reason
Speaker 1: to vote for Kamlin. I mean, you got to give
Speaker 1: me a reason. So I don't know, maybe, and it depends.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see the ratings on this thing, because
Speaker 1: I think if you turned it on, it's dayed on.
Speaker 4: Oh sure, they said eighty million for the last one,
Speaker 4: so we'll see on this.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, eighty million on the last one.
Speaker 1: That's that's close to Super Bowl numbers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's huge.
Speaker 1: Uh Okay, I do want to bring this up. We're
Speaker 1: speaking about policy and everything else. Our boss lives at
Speaker 1: the Omni, and they cannot keep the break ins from
Speaker 1: their garage. They so they're they're smashing windows twelve cars
Speaker 1: at a time in the Omni, which is the right
Speaker 1: now is the newest and nicest hotel we have downtown,
Speaker 1: and they cannot keep these folks from smashing windows and
Speaker 1: breaking into cars and if you I don't know if
Speaker 1: anybody's paying attention, but the cars that are in that
Speaker 1: parking garage are are BMW's Mercedes land Rovers. These are
Speaker 1: these are people that make a lot of money, and
Speaker 1: you're telling me those people are gonna put up with that.
Speaker 1: They're not going.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I called the mayor and he said, there's
Speaker 4: credible evidence that that's happening.
Speaker 2: Well, can we get a comment from him at least
Speaker 2: on this if it were just hypothetically, I know it's
Speaker 2: not happening, But if it were happening, you.
Speaker 1: Know, feels so much better.
Speaker 3: Well, here's the scary part about that, the Omni.
Speaker 2: It was quite the investment you might want to say,
Speaker 2: gets built. Uh ma anal Fister, Greg Fisher, Greg Fister,
Speaker 2: Greg FISTERT.
Speaker 3: Why can't ever get that right? Mari anal Fisher.
Speaker 2: Let mostly peaceful riders destroy the city of Louisville and
Speaker 2: a lot of people moved out of the Omni. Okay,
Speaker 2: people are just coming back to the Omni. Well this
Speaker 2: caused them to you know what, I've had enough.
Speaker 1: Well, I do have some insight info that they were
Speaker 1: going to raise the rent price like every other place
Speaker 1: in America is doing right now, and they said, since
Speaker 1: these break ins are happening, they're going to hold off
Speaker 1: on that. Well, sEH, we'll sign you another le at
Speaker 1: this price.
Speaker 3: Just taking outside of the box here.
Speaker 2: Every time your car windows broken, you get a free
Speaker 2: month rent.
Speaker 1: I will say, I think Greenberg is doing a good job,
Speaker 1: and he's made some headway, but it's not good enough
Speaker 1: and he needs The last time he was on this
Speaker 1: radio show, you were you were out of town. I
Speaker 1: think Cabo I looked at him and said, this should
Speaker 1: be non negotiable. The Omni, the seal back in the
Speaker 1: brown should be cleared of drug addicts every single moment
Speaker 1: you see him on your HD cameras. I've been in
Speaker 1: the room where you see those fronts. Oh, get rid
Speaker 1: of them, get them out of there and move them out.
Speaker 1: How can you not protect such a small footprint? Detroit does,
Speaker 1: Downtown Memphis does it? Yes, all big city San Francisco
Speaker 1: does does it? They move him out of the business distric.
Speaker 2: There's a there's a building. We pass it when we
Speaker 2: go when we leave, get off the air and take
Speaker 2: a right. It's right down here. It's a huge building.
Speaker 2: It's made out of I'll get the addressed tomorrow. It's
Speaker 2: made out of the same huge stones that the seal.
Speaker 3: Box is made out up.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the Migrant towers.
Speaker 3: It's just vaked. It's painted on.
Speaker 1: I mean you mean the Starks Tower or Stewart's it
Speaker 1: would used to be Stewart's something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know what you're talking about. Yeah, it's empty right now, right,
Speaker 1: you're beautiful building. It's a beautiful building.
Speaker 2: It's been there. The doors and windows are painted black.
Speaker 1: It's been there one hundred years.
Speaker 3: I mean, at least making a quiz nose or something.
Speaker 1: Right and again, drive up seventy one or come up
Speaker 1: sixty five North and look at the super tiny footprint
Speaker 1: that we have for downtown. I'm sorry. There are cities
Speaker 1: much bigger than this that are protecting large a lot
Speaker 1: larger areas. Get them out. There's no look. I want
Speaker 1: to get you help. I want to if you have
Speaker 1: your mental issues, and if you have dog issues, I want
Speaker 1: to get you help. But you don't get to hang out,
Speaker 1: strung out in front of businesses like the Omni and
Speaker 1: the Sealbag. Sorry, you got to move out, all right,
Speaker 1: So we'll keep you up on the Omni break ins too,
Speaker 1: and we'll keep you up on what's happening with the
Speaker 1: nine to eleven and the events that are happening today.
Speaker 1: To remember what happened that day twenty three years ago.
Speaker 1: And you have the joke oft.
Speaker 2: The d I do have joke of the day. But
Speaker 2: I also want to say two points of order. We
Speaker 2: are going to give away Brooks and dun tickets at
Speaker 2: some point on the Today Yeah, right Atkinson one, yes,
Speaker 2: congratulations James Atkinson, thanks for listening. And then also it's
Speaker 2: not a joke at the body at the bottom of
Speaker 2: the hour, right after news Ozzy joins the show, say
Speaker 2: what Ozzie joined?
Speaker 3: So I'm dead serious on that. All right, listen, here
Speaker 3: we go. Here's joke today.
Speaker 2: Hey fellas, Hey, two women walk out on a bridge
Speaker 2: or out for a walk, you know. Let's call them
Speaker 2: Karen Cotton and Joeanne Odom.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's very random.
Speaker 3: So they walk out on a bridge.
Speaker 2: That's when Joe Anne goes, you know what, Karen, I've
Speaker 2: never peed off a bridge before.
Speaker 1: Oh guys, women don't do you.
Speaker 2: Guys do it all the time. You never get to
Speaker 2: do it. Come on, let's pee off a bridge. Karen says, no,
Speaker 2: what you doing? Joy In Joyan goes over there. She
Speaker 2: pulls her pants down and leans your rear and over
Speaker 2: the bridge, says, come on, Karen, I'm gonna pee on
Speaker 2: this canoe down here. That's when Karen comes over and says,
Speaker 2: that's not a canoe, that's your reflection.
Speaker 3: You got him, You got him, We have here we am.
Speaker 1: Oh jeez.
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Speaker 2: oh one President, Way to stick around News on the
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Speaker 2: Then after that, Ozzie joins the show. News ready to
Speaker 2: eight forty? Whas so you promised Ozzy dude hang on
Speaker 2: one second, working Firman with his manager right now? Okay, Ozzie,
Speaker 2: could you put those headphones on right there and this
Speaker 2: will be your mic.
Speaker 1: You're so don't you learn from history?
Speaker 2: Been working been working on this interview for quite some time.
Speaker 2: Didn't want to say anything on the air because didn't know
Speaker 2: if he could come in. But Ozzie did in fact
Speaker 2: come in. Ozzie Gibson. Good to have you on the
Speaker 2: show this.
Speaker 3: Morning, my friend us.
Speaker 2: If you're not familiar with Ozzy. Ozzie Gibson served as LMPD.
Speaker 2: He retired in twenty sixteen, actually a deputy chief, rose high.
Speaker 3: In the ranks.
Speaker 2: He retired for three months and they asked him, They said,
Speaker 2: can you come back?
Speaker 3: Little Metro Animal.
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Speaker 2: in terrible, terrible, terrible conditions. Ozzie Gibson comes out of
Speaker 2: retirement in just three months and turns Little Metro Animal
Speaker 2: Services around, starts to retire again. And they said, you
Speaker 2: know why, Now we got trouble with tar. They saw,
Speaker 2: now you're with Tark and you're being tasked. We're headed
Speaker 2: towards a thirty million dollar cliff. It's getting ready to
Speaker 2: go off the cliff.
Speaker 1: Well, let's let him set the table. But I've already
Speaker 1: known someone, you've done this with my wife. You spoke
Speaker 1: to Saint Matthew City Council and she said, this guy
Speaker 1: has no nonsense and he laid it out. So what
Speaker 1: we need you to do is what's the state of
Speaker 1: Tark and lay out what you're trying to accomplish here
Speaker 1: in the next couple of months.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, so when I took over, we have a thirty
Speaker 5: million dollar financial cliff that's coming up in the next
Speaker 5: couple of years. And what we have right now is
Speaker 5: we actually got a grant for the federal government to
Speaker 5: come in and study Louisville, Kentucky graphic patterns. And what
Speaker 5: we're trying to do is get out ahead of this.
Speaker 5: And is what I told them, you know at the
Speaker 5: Saint Matthew's board, is it is a national problem. There's
Speaker 5: a lot of cities that are struggling facing you know,
Speaker 5: six figure, multi million dollar financial cliffs. And what we're
Speaker 5: trying to do is we are going out in like
Speaker 5: over a forty day period, We're going to one hundred
Speaker 5: and forty different places. And what we're asking people is
Speaker 5: what do you want out of Tark? You know, where
Speaker 5: do you want to go? What do you want to
Speaker 5: see better? And we're getting all this feedback so that
Speaker 5: we can help design a better network of where we
Speaker 5: need to go. So in the end you can go
Speaker 5: to actually tark our website and fill out a survey.
Speaker 3: How did we get to this position?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you didn't you burying the leads so far,
Speaker 1: which is you're going to have to cut routes.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, if we don't find more revenue for TARK,
Speaker 5: we're looking at a fifty percent cut.
Speaker 1: Oh in it whoa whoa, yeah, WHOA. To to Dwight's question.
Speaker 3: How do we get here?
Speaker 5: Well, there again, usually there's some federal grants out there
Speaker 5: that help all public transit across the country. During COVID,
Speaker 5: we actually got one hundred and forty million at TARK,
Speaker 5: and that was to not lay the drivers off so
Speaker 5: that we could keep service going because we have like
Speaker 5: five hundred thousand boardings of a month. Okay, so we've
Speaker 5: been able to use that money to get by, and
Speaker 5: that money's going to dry up.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: If we hadn't gotten that money during the time period
Speaker 5: of COVID, this would have happened. We just still had
Speaker 5: this financial cliff. But one of the things is we
Speaker 5: may have been too big twenty years ago, and we
Speaker 5: probably have grown out. You know, my goal is to
Speaker 5: match our budget to the service. I cannot not balance
Speaker 5: the budget, right, So and.
Speaker 3: Then you look at what people do.
Speaker 5: You went through COVID and every place lost fifty percent
Speaker 5: of the ridership and it's still down fifty And then
Speaker 5: people they don't even leave the house to shop no more.
Speaker 3: No, you're right.
Speaker 5: You know, Amazon delivers, Kroger delivers, you know. So we
Speaker 5: got a lot of changing in patterns with people. So
Speaker 5: we're hoping this study will tell us where people want
Speaker 5: to go so that when we reroute, we can increase
Speaker 5: our ridership.
Speaker 1: But okay, first of all, there are federal mandates that
Speaker 1: you have to have. You have to be able to
Speaker 1: fight transportation for handy capable people, right, and yes, tell
Speaker 1: me the federal. So you're gonna have to cover the federal.
Speaker 1: And then you'll figure out how many routes and who's
Speaker 1: going to get I'm not going to use the word screwed,
Speaker 1: but you are going to try to figure out which
Speaker 1: one of the routes are because let's be honest, there
Speaker 1: are some routes that I never see anybody on the bus.
Speaker 1: And there's routes I see, the whole bus is full.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeap, one hundred percent. You know we've cut twenty
Speaker 5: percent already and that's helped, and you know we're trying
Speaker 5: to help JCPS. But back to your question. You know
Speaker 5: pair of transit, which is TART three. The federal guidelines
Speaker 5: are we have to go three quarters of a mile
Speaker 5: off wherever our fixed routes are.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, to help folks.
Speaker 5: And if we shrink, there's going to be people out
Speaker 5: there that you know, we at TARK and our leadership
Speaker 5: in this community and our board, we're gonna have to
Speaker 5: figure out what do we do.
Speaker 1: Our own Joe Elliott uses it when we were over
Speaker 1: in DuPont. He used that because he's visually impaired. He
Speaker 1: uses TARK three and that bus would take him to
Speaker 1: work and bring him back. So that stuff still has
Speaker 1: to continue.
Speaker 5: It's a big deal, you know, and it's just heartbreaking
Speaker 5: that we're having to go through this. But there again,
Speaker 5: my role is we're trying to get out ahead of
Speaker 5: it and give a Louisville the best plan we can
Speaker 5: give them.
Speaker 2: Talk about Ozzie Gibson, We're talking about TARK. That's the problem. Dave,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to step on you.
Speaker 4: It's okay. Did drivers leaving for JCPS affect you at all?
Speaker 5: Well, we had planned for it. We reduced our service
Speaker 5: because we had announced that we were going to lay
Speaker 5: off sixty to eighty drivers January twenty twenty five. So
Speaker 5: Mayor Greenberg came to us and said, hey, look, you
Speaker 5: know you're going to be laying off drivers that don't
Speaker 5: you know we don't like to see that. And JCPS
Speaker 5: can't find drivers. How can you two organization get together
Speaker 5: and help one another. So we was able to come
Speaker 5: up and we're releasing our drivers over there. You know,
Speaker 5: they still are under the Tark umbrella, but jac PASS
Speaker 5: is paying for their salaries and they're hoping they can
Speaker 5: fill in and eventually maybe run some of these other
Speaker 5: routes where these they had trouble with these schools.
Speaker 1: I will say that this does affect businesses because if
Speaker 1: I live on off Shelby Bulle Road and they're all
Speaker 1: those there's Arby's, there's the malls, there's Best Buy, there's
Speaker 1: a Total Wine, there's all these places where I see
Speaker 1: those uniforms and the polo with the little thing, and
Speaker 1: they're all getting on those buses and I know they're
Speaker 1: going they're going into the South End or downtown. Right,
Speaker 1: So all those that route down Shelby Road is taking
Speaker 1: employees to these businesses. You eliminate that route, those businesses
Speaker 1: are gonna be pissed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think, well, no matter what happens,
Speaker 5: we're gonna be on our Ridership routes are the ones
Speaker 5: that definitely, if we shrink back, we're gonna keep them.
Speaker 5: But they won't go all the way to some of
Speaker 5: those places he just talked about. Okay, they'll be more
Speaker 5: centrally located, pulled back, and then all those jobs out
Speaker 5: in those areas that are gonna be trouble filling.
Speaker 1: Them, Like what is the south ang gonna get screwed?
Speaker 5: It depends on how fire out you know, you go
Speaker 5: too far outside the waters and yeah, and then another
Speaker 5: thing you'd want everybody right now that I've talked to,
Speaker 5: they like frequency. You know, they want you to come
Speaker 5: by every fifteen or thirty minutes. They give some more options. Well,
Speaker 5: the further out you go, the less frequency you're gonna
Speaker 5: get it because it costs so much to keep doing that.
Speaker 2: I got you, Okay, that's the problem. Let's talk solutions.
Speaker 2: Just throwing it out there. We have an overcrowded corrections. Okay,
Speaker 2: And in the South End there's something known as a flophouse.
Speaker 3: Here's the concept of a flophouse. Right.
Speaker 2: Let's say I can't afford an apartment all by myself,
Speaker 2: but I work third shift, and Tony can't afford an
Speaker 2: apartment by himself and he works first shift. I sleep
Speaker 2: in the bed until I gotta go to work. He
Speaker 2: comes home from work, he sleeps in the bed. Why
Speaker 2: don't we just go ahead and have a prisoner powerward
Speaker 2: tark buses like these pedal bars bars.
Speaker 3: Like the pedal bars. You see a lot of women
Speaker 3: on the pedal bars.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, So they get fresh air and exercise and
Speaker 2: you all get gas free tarks.
Speaker 3: It's a win win.
Speaker 1: My advice, Ozzie is your to not answer that question.
Speaker 1: So moving forward, Okay, this is a similar conversation in Indianapolis, Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: A lot of cities our size Nashville have dealt with
Speaker 1: are they cunning routes? Obviously? Also are we are we
Speaker 1: in the same boat with them?
Speaker 4: Or what?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 5: Not really, So when you look at Indy and Cincinnati,
Speaker 5: who they actually had tax increases in seventeen and eighteen
Speaker 5: because they saw this coming and it was able to
Speaker 5: use some of the money not only to help you know, Tark,
Speaker 5: but other city projects. And I think Nashville actually has
Speaker 5: a referendum on this fall to do it. And then
Speaker 5: Richmond is another city we've looked at, and again they
Speaker 5: did it in twenty twenty, and their state helped out
Speaker 5: a lot so that they could continue the public transit
Speaker 5: they had.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Mark Twain says that when the end of the world happens,
Speaker 2: he wants to be in Kentucky because Kentucky's twenty years
Speaker 2: behind everything. Yeah, and we've proven that with NFL teams
Speaker 2: or built it.
Speaker 1: But yes, be honest, in twenty seventeen eighteen, you and
Speaker 1: I were on the air, and we would have been
Speaker 1: fighting against the Tark tax. We would have been saying no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: My point is, so years ago, should we have built
Speaker 2: some kind of light rail light rail system?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Well, I think there's probably several things we could have
Speaker 5: done many years ago. You know, like we get our
Speaker 5: money out of the occupational tax, and the city does
Speaker 5: they get a lot of money, and so does JACPS,
Speaker 5: but they both of those organizations are maxed out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we're not.
Speaker 5: And it had they somebody maxed us out twenty years ago,
Speaker 5: you would have seen a whole different public transit in Louisville, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know we have issues with discipline on the JCPS. Bush.
Speaker 1: Do you all find that you're bus drivers have some
Speaker 1: issues with you know, we see it driving downtown. There's
Speaker 1: some drug issues, some homelessness and all that. Do they
Speaker 1: have to deal with it? Sort of that stuff? You're
Speaker 1: you're not all bus drivers, but do they do they
Speaker 1: experience that too?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, I can tell you over the last three weeks
Speaker 5: we've had two bus drivers physically assaulted where they were
Speaker 5: punched in the face.
Speaker 1: Wow, breaking news. That's the stuff where you just don't
Speaker 1: want to go back to work.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just disheartening. I mean, you come in, everybody
Speaker 5: wants to come into work and most of them want
Speaker 5: to do a good job and they want to go
Speaker 5: home safe, you know, And my role is I'm not
Speaker 5: just protecting a driver. We've got to protect the passengers.
Speaker 5: And when somebody just wants to you know, sucker punch somebody,
Speaker 5: that's sitting in a chair, you know, in a seat
Speaker 5: driving a bus. That's just unacceptable. So here in the
Speaker 5: next week or two, we will be getting these people's
Speaker 5: faces out to l ABD and get it on the
Speaker 5: news so that we can find them and prosecute.
Speaker 4: How can the public weigh in on what to keep
Speaker 4: and what to lose?
Speaker 5: Great question, absolutely, So you can go to our web
Speaker 5: page and there's actually a QR code. You can download
Speaker 5: the survey and there's about twenty questions and we're asking
Speaker 5: everybody that cares about tark rides, TARC wants to see
Speaker 5: TARK good or bad, please go to our website and
Speaker 5: fill out this survey so that we can collect all
Speaker 5: the data and actually design something that everybody wants.
Speaker 3: That's a heck of a process.
Speaker 2: How lengthy is this process going to be because we're
Speaker 2: talking about entire city's worth of bus lines?
Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent. But the consultant we have, Jared Walker,
Speaker 5: if I looked at their resume of all the cities
Speaker 5: they've been to, Houston, Dallas, it's great where they've been.
Speaker 5: So we're confident that they know what they're doing and
Speaker 5: when they hear the citizens saying.
Speaker 4: Hey, we want you to go here.
Speaker 5: This is how many times we want to go. They
Speaker 5: start figuring out how that is, and then they're very
Speaker 5: good at figuring out what that's going to cost.
Speaker 1: I rarely endorse anybody in these positions. That's Dwyfe's job
Speaker 1: is to kiss your ass. But I will say I
Speaker 1: rarely do this, but I think Ozzie you're the right
Speaker 1: guy for the job. And I hope, I hope you
Speaker 1: can do some good while you're in there, because I
Speaker 1: know tark is not easy, and right now it's probably
Speaker 1: the hardest it's been in twenty years. So go get it.
Speaker 2: I didn't understand you with your lips pressed against Ozzie
Speaker 2: gets your ass.
Speaker 1: Could you get so mad that I took his another solution?
Speaker 3: Got another solution? You ready ready for this? Okay?
Speaker 2: The drivers aren't going to like this because they're gonna
Speaker 2: get let go, you know. But so you got twenty
Speaker 2: people to ride the bus every day? Uh, you take
Speaker 2: turns driving everybody like one day, Frank's gonna drive.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, he said, And Ozzie did say. There
Speaker 1: is no dumb ideas until now.
Speaker 3: It's a self driven driven about the community.
Speaker 1: But you committed to one hundred and forty stops, including
Speaker 1: that Saint Matthew City Council was one of those. That's
Speaker 1: that's the kind of leadership you need to where We're
Speaker 1: going to one hundred and forty different places to get
Speaker 1: the information. So after the fact, no one can say, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't get to say anything.
Speaker 3: That's exactly my motto.
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Speaker 1: Want to thank Godzie Gibson for coming on here, coming
Speaker 1: in here and doing his his bid for Tark one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty stops to find out and tell Louisville, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're cutting half of the routes. You better get your
Speaker 1: information to Tark. If you ride Tark, you need to
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