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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, good morning, good morning, and welcome, welcome, welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Media's time now for our community connection right here on

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<v Speaker 1>K one, the one you trust. I'm Tom Davis. We

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<v Speaker 1>have Fran in here with us from the LEGO. But

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<v Speaker 1>women voters, how you doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Just fine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always great to have you in here because we

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<v Speaker 1>always learn something, and today we're going to learn about

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<v Speaker 1>something sort of new.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the League is going to be sponsoring a program

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<v Speaker 2>next Tuesday night for all of us to learn about

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<v Speaker 2>open primaries. That's where it doesn't matter whether you are Republican, Democrat,

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<v Speaker 2>or independent, but you can vote in the primary and

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<v Speaker 2>then the idea is that the top two vote getters

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<v Speaker 2>will be on the ballot when it comes down to

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<v Speaker 2>the actual voting whenever that is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a little different to a type of open primary

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<v Speaker 1>that I think I remember from a long time back.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's different, but it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you said you had lived in states that had

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<v Speaker 2>open primaries, but that it's a new thing for Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 2>so we need to learn about it pros and cons.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why two people from Oklahoma United are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be coming to Bartlesville next Tuesday night down to

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<v Speaker 2>the public library and they'll tell us about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that'd be great. Fact, I think we have one.

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<v Speaker 1>Margaret Cobas is on the line, and Margaret, how are

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<v Speaker 1>you today?

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<v Speaker 3>I am fabulous. I'm so excited about going to Bartlesville.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you ought to be. It's a great town. You

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<v Speaker 1>ought to come by here and spend more time to

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<v Speaker 1>have it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I've been going to Bartlesville my whole life, and

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<v Speaker 3>I love it. And I think you guys are awesome

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<v Speaker 3>and have a such a special heritage, and I just

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<v Speaker 3>can't wait to meet lots of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Margaret, tell us a little bit about this proposal for

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<v Speaker 1>an open primary as we're seeing it here on paper.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell us a little bit more about the intricacies, please, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I'm very happy that you actually touched on a

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<v Speaker 3>couple of things about open primaries that are really important.

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<v Speaker 3>Number One, Oklahoma United is a nonpartisan grassroots group that

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<v Speaker 3>I founded in twenty twenty one as a way to

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<v Speaker 3>try to find out what's going on in Oklahoma with

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<v Speaker 3>US not voting and we have low turnout. We've been

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<v Speaker 3>last in the country for a long time. We were

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<v Speaker 3>last in the US and voter turnout in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>but then we fell even further in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 3>So for the last four years, Oklahoma United has been

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<v Speaker 3>conducting polls and research and listening sessions all over the

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<v Speaker 3>state and at any place we can find people and

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<v Speaker 3>asking a question like why aren't we voting? What's going

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<v Speaker 3>on here? And the resounding reply was that people just

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<v Speaker 3>don't feel like they matter. And we have a situation

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<v Speaker 3>where in twenty twenty two midterms, ninety four percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the races in the twenty twenty two elections were considered

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<v Speaker 3>non competitive, so there were either no choices or the

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<v Speaker 3>choice was made in a single party primary. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>across the state of Oklahoma. So you can see why

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<v Speaker 3>people feel like their voices don't matter when they kind

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<v Speaker 3>of don't matter. And when you reverse engineer it, you

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<v Speaker 3>really get very quickly to the primary system. We are

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<v Speaker 3>only one of twelve states that has a closed primary system.

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<v Speaker 3>That means that while we are last in voter turnout,

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<v Speaker 3>we are tolerating a system that excludes half a million

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<v Speaker 3>now the fastest growing group of voters in Oklahoma and

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<v Speaker 3>across the US, and that is the group of people

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<v Speaker 3>who register independent. So while we want to be better

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<v Speaker 3>about voter participation and turnout. The first thing I think

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<v Speaker 3>we have found is that we just need to start

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<v Speaker 3>by letting everybody vote right, And that's just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>common sense. We've got these people who are registered to vote,

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<v Speaker 3>they want to vote, and we just need to start

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<v Speaker 3>with that. So our research actually led us further, and

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<v Speaker 3>that is that people in Oklahoma have been telling us

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<v Speaker 3>not only do they want independence to be able to

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<v Speaker 3>have a full right to vote in the elections that

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<v Speaker 3>we are all paying for, by the way, but they

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<v Speaker 3>also actually don't even want separate primaries anymore. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>our world is very divided, and yet we know that statewide,

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<v Speaker 3>we all share a lot of common goals with regards

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<v Speaker 3>to schools and roads and bridges and you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>infrastructure and the economic opportunities that we want. We all

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<v Speaker 3>want them and they are not partisan issues. So a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of Oklahoma's have been saying, why don't we just

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<v Speaker 3>all have one ballot. We'll just have one primary, we

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<v Speaker 3>all vote on it. It's like high school, It's like

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<v Speaker 3>every city in town in Oklahoma already does. And let's

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<v Speaker 3>just do that and simplify the system and get everybody

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<v Speaker 3>in it and then all of the candidates would face

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<v Speaker 3>all the voters, and all the voters will get to

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<v Speaker 3>have the same menu in front of them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's interesting because I don't recall anybody being prevented from voting.

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<v Speaker 1>But as you say, if you are an independent, where

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to go on primary day? So therefore

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<v Speaker 1>you are left out in the cold.

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<v Speaker 3>Right when I say prevented, what I mean is a

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<v Speaker 3>closed primary system actually has taxpayer funded primaries in which

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<v Speaker 3>parties are permitted to exclude the public. So if you

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<v Speaker 3>are wanting if you don't want to register in a

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<v Speaker 3>party for whatever reason, and I say that as a

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<v Speaker 3>registered Republican myself, but if I were, you know, you

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<v Speaker 3>want to register with a party that makes your heart's saying,

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<v Speaker 3>and if it doesn't, then you might still want to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>But you.

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<v Speaker 3>Have the ability and the right to register as an independent.

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<v Speaker 3>So many of our elections, like eighty four percent were

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty four, were decided in partisan primaries, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 3>certain elections like county sheriff races were seventy six out

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<v Speaker 3>of seventy seven counties didn't even have a general election

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<v Speaker 3>for sheriff. So when I'm saying that independents are prohibited

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<v Speaker 3>from voting. I mean that this system does not permit

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<v Speaker 3>an independent to participate fully in all elections.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that clarity. Now, we've got a big event

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<v Speaker 1>coming up brand and again it's going to be at

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<v Speaker 1>the library.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you mean the meeting yes week, Yes, next Tuesday night.

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<v Speaker 2>Legal Women Voters mandate is to try to encourage participation

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<v Speaker 2>in our voting process. So this is a very important

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<v Speaker 2>topic for us to learn about. And at the library

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<v Speaker 2>room A upstairs, if you come at six thirty, there

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<v Speaker 2>will be informal time with refreshments, and then the program

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<v Speaker 2>starts at seven and we have not only Margaret speaking,

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<v Speaker 2>but also Pat McFerrin, who is a strategist for Oklahoma United,

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<v Speaker 2>and he will be talking about the process they're going

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<v Speaker 2>through to get ready for the state Question eight thirty six,

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<v Speaker 2>which will be collecting signatures in the hope that we

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<v Speaker 2>can get it on the ballot.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a process, we learn about it, the

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<v Speaker 1>ask for signatures takes place, and then we see where

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<v Speaker 1>it goes from there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they'll explain what the timeline is and how many

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<v Speaker 2>signatures they have to collect and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Margaret, this is why I hang out with fran you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's kind of like that. She can point me to

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<v Speaker 1>the information I need.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we love that, and we we're just so excited

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to take questions from the public because

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<v Speaker 3>that's the mission of Oklahoma United is very aligned with

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<v Speaker 3>the legal woman voters, and that we're not trying to

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<v Speaker 3>create a nail for a hammer. We're trying to answer

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<v Speaker 3>a problem that I think is widely acknowledged in Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 3>with a common sense solution.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's going to be very interesting to learn about.

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<v Speaker 2>Imagine there are some cons as well as some pros,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure that you've looked into that in the

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<v Speaker 2>many states that now have open primaries. So we'll look

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<v Speaker 2>forward to being informed about that so that voters can

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<v Speaker 2>make up their minds about whether they want to sign

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<v Speaker 2>the petition, whether they want to see this take place

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<v Speaker 2>in Oklahoma. I can repeat that's next Tuesday, six point

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<v Speaker 2>thirty for refreshments and to meet people, and seven o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>for the program in Room A upstairs at our wonderful

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<v Speaker 2>public library.

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<v Speaker 1>And Margaret, we look forward to having me have both

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<v Speaker 1>you and the partner there with us and really letting

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<v Speaker 1>people fully understand what this idea encompasses. Like I told Fran,

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<v Speaker 1>I've lived in that in a state where they had

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<v Speaker 1>the open primaries, and you know they it took a

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<v Speaker 1>while for people to get used to it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>guess whenever something changes, there's always that learning girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I remember when my mother moved the cereal bowls

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<v Speaker 3>in the cabinet. I was very upset when I was little.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, times are different now. And when we're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about independent voters, we're talking about our children and

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<v Speaker 3>our grandchildren, and our military people, the large majority of

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<v Speaker 3>which all register tend to register as independent. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we have to be able. I say this sometimes our

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<v Speaker 3>job is to enable our children and the future generations

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<v Speaker 3>to govern themselves in a strong democracy, and we need

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<v Speaker 3>to restore or build I would say, faith and government.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I don't really see a downside to this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm all powered to the people, and I just think

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<v Speaker 3>that Oklahomas share a lot of the same concerns on

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<v Speaker 3>a state level, and we see this as something that

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<v Speaker 3>the people of Oklahoma seem to really respond well to.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be really interesting, Frand I tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>it is really amazing how the League of Women Voters

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<v Speaker 1>are able to identify different things coming down the pipe

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<v Speaker 1>and really bring it to the forefront for not only

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<v Speaker 1>people to listen, but to ask questions. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Great American Discussion is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>at the library.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, indeed, we're very proud to be able to use

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<v Speaker 2>the free meeting room at the library for public, nonprofit

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<v Speaker 2>events like this so that people can meet the speakers

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<v Speaker 2>and talk with them and ask questions and inform ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>on how to make our country stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good, Very good. Well, you know, this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an exciting an affair and once again we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to learn about this process called open primary. If

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<v Speaker 1>you've not lived in another state where you've had this,

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<v Speaker 1>it is well worth the time and attention. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have any questions or any curiosity. I think there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people going to be more curious than anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Else for him, because this is a new thing for

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<v Speaker 2>our state. It's kind of a new concept to wrap

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<v Speaker 2>our heads around. But I think especially I hope independent

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<v Speaker 2>voters will come because this is especially relevant for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're, like Margaret said, they're more out there

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<v Speaker 1>than you know who are independent. They like certain things

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<v Speaker 1>on certain menus and certain things on other menus, and

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<v Speaker 1>they prefer to do their voting.

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<v Speaker 2>A lakarte and this is a way so that they

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<v Speaker 2>would have more choice when it comes down to actually voting, because,

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<v Speaker 2>as Margaret said, so many of our elections have been

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<v Speaker 2>limited to whoever survived the primary.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we have a lot of spokespeople advocates for

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<v Speaker 3>this proposal who are very committed party members. We just

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<v Speaker 3>see more choices in this system for everyone, not just

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<v Speaker 3>the independence but also the party members as well. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't think that people are concerned about

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<v Speaker 3>having too many choices in a system that's often not

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<v Speaker 3>even fielding more than one candidate. So, you know, we

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<v Speaker 3>just want to open this up and get more people

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<v Speaker 3>excited about public service and being part of solutions and

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<v Speaker 3>the talent school that make Oklahoma great.

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<v Speaker 1>Margaret, do you have a website that folks can read

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<v Speaker 1>up on your group there or maybe a Facebook page?

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<v Speaker 3>You bet we have. The Oklahoma United website is Okay

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<v Speaker 3>hyphen United dot org. But there's also a State Question

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<v Speaker 3>eight thirty six website which is vote Yes eight three

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<v Speaker 3>six dot com. And both of those have information and

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<v Speaker 3>since I'm the founder of Oklahoma United. I'm more familiar

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<v Speaker 3>with that one, but lots of information about statistics of

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<v Speaker 3>Oklahoma elections, how to open primaries work, and the differences

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<v Speaker 3>between a closed and an open system.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good and Frand, once again, i'd like to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you to repeat the meeting time and where folks can

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<v Speaker 1>find out more information.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's next Tuesday, February eleventh, at six point thirty

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<v Speaker 2>for casual meeting people and talking and refreshments, and then

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<v Speaker 2>seven o'clock for the program. It will be at the

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<v Speaker 2>Bartlesviill Public Library upstairs in Room A. There is an elevator.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonderful. I like that. My knees are just thanking you

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<v Speaker 1>right now, Margaret and Fran, I want to thank you

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<v Speaker 1>both for being here with us today on our community

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<v Speaker 1>connection right here on K one, the one you trust